Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 525: Introducing the Virtual Lift Hard Live Easy Meet
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You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest.
You're doing a great job.
Hope everybody keeps tuning in.
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understandings of how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength.
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Massonomics.
Welcome, everyone.
This here is the first episode of our second 10-year run of the Massachusetts.
Masanomics podcast.
Every 10-year span of the podcast begins with a single episode,
and that is this right now.
It's just like episode one all over again,
which was actually episode two.
That's kind of confusing.
You'll have to go back and listen to figure what we're talking about there.
Or like episode one of season two,
which is kind of, you know, the first episode of that season.
Well, it has a lot of similarities, a lot of episodes we've done.
Yes.
Another way of phrasing it is this is episode 525 of the Massonomics podcast,
the lifting podcast about nothing.
And my name is Tanner.
And my name is Tommy.
525.
We have a huge lift hard, live easy four announcement this episode.
This is big.
Perhaps even the title, if you're listening to this,
gives away the details,
but maybe it doesn't.
We don't really know what the title is yet.
So if the title doesn't give it away,
this is a teaser.
If the title gives it away,
then you kind of already know.
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I was actually thinking this is just everyone can be in on this brainstorming session.
Just this week, I was thinking, maybe I'll message Dave.
Like, Dave, how much of that toilet paper do you actually have left?
And what would the shipping be like on an entire palette?
And if we could make it happen, what do you think about us making a little content about this?
Thank you.
Get it out of here.
What do you think about us?
You know, you do a little video on your end of the palette.
And then we do a little video on our receiving end of the palette.
and I don't know.
There's a lot of ifs in that scenario,
but stay tuned.
I like the thought, though.
Yeah.
There's something there.
All for one Instagram reel
that will probably perform mediocre to poor.
I don't see any downsides of this.
I mean, it's just, that sounds great.
But it's just a matter of time.
I have the use for the toilet paper,
so I'm like it's just prepaying a little toilet paper
really is all.
So I could, I'm not sure what the shipping situation is going to be,
though. It's like making an investment in everyone's
rear end.
Yes. Almost can't afford not to.
So that's elite FTS.com. It doesn't wear much. It should
ship really cheap. Well, and you never know
with everything going on when that whole thing's going to happen again.
Like have you guys not been sitting on pallets of toilet paper ever since?
We went from three pallets. We're down to two now.
So I probably need that third pallet back on.
That's actually getting a little low stock.
Wouldn't that be hilarious if you got like a whole palette from him?
and right when you did that,
something weird happened with toilet paper again,
where all of some days like, damn it.
And be like, oh, my God, we're rich.
Reselling them on the black market.
It's the new currency.
All right.
Is that the late FTS ad?
I didn't want to cut off anything there.
Yeah, that's, uh, yep, that's it.
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Should we put, we did have a new drop.
Actually, we just dropped today.
Just today.
There's a new drop that came out.
And what was in it, Tommy?
We had, I might have one of them right here actually.
Let me see if I, we had, first of all, this here tea that I'm holding would be the first ever wearable Jim Radar merchandise.
That is just a classy black comfort colors tea with the Jim Radar logo across the chest.
Somewhat understated, but hey, if you know, you know, if someone, if you see someone, if you see someone,
wearing these in public, you know, they got it figured out when it comes to home gyms because
they're on your radar.
Do you think the gym radar T should be on Jim radar?
I thought I saw someone mention that.
It is kind of funny to think about it.
It wouldn't be a terrible idea, but maybe we're going down the wrong road.
You know, with all this stuff, you got to think of, well, what's, what is that, if we had
that product, what does that turn into the next thing then?
That's, we've had a lot of debates about that over time.
So we'll see.
but we also, it's our platform,
we could make the rules on it.
Sometimes there's exceptions.
Yes, that was the first one.
We also had the return of the drinking tea,
drinking team tea,
first time in five-ish years
that that tea's been around.
Let's just say,
let me crunch some numbers on this actually quick.
It's, I'm doing a little bit of crunching.
It's been one week since you looked at me.
It's been a while.
That sounds more correct.
Yeah, I think it's a little.
it has been a while and it feels good to see that tea back.
It looks like, based off of sales numbers,
that everyone else also thinks it's good to have that tea back.
And I'm assuming actually there's quite a few Macedomics followers,
supporters today that I've never seen that tea before.
Oh, that's one of those ones you get to brag.
When we release it, you get to throw on your old one and post on Instagram and be like,
I had this back before it was cool.
And you say if she doesn't have the original drinking team tea,
she's too young for you, bro.
That one was always one of my favorites.
I like that one a lot and it is good to see it back.
Yeah, an understated,
understated piece in the collection.
Oh, a lot of stickers, a lot of sticker restocks.
Got any of those over there?
Here's one pack.
And these are also like the really nice stickers.
I don't know.
Like we've had varying levels of quality of stickers.
These are all really, really nice ones.
So the one pack is the drinking team.
logo again. Silly Goose barbell club, the circle die cut Massonomics Gym one. And then the other pack,
which these are also the premium stickers. We've got the bench heavy, the newer bench heavy
logo, natural for a life, which has never been a sticker. And then our newer deadlifter design.
So that's the other sticker pack right there. What's your favorite sticker of the bunch, Tommy?
What's my favorite?
Yeah.
Oh, that's a really hard.
That's a tough one.
Yeah, that's right.
You know, I do like seeing the Jim Skull in a circle, sicker, actually.
Yeah.
Because we've never done that before, have we, ever?
I don't think so, unless it was like a run of 50 that we just gave them away for something.
That could have been.
Yeah.
So that one's always a classic.
I don't know.
I might go with that one for now.
Yep, that's good.
And then the certified training facility, gym radar flags, have absolutely been popping off.
So if you want in on one, get yourself a gym radar certification.
It is the green gym radar certified flag along with the certification certificate.
And then the gym radar certified training facility, glitter stickers.
And we may have to double check some.
numbers here, but if we still have any left, there is a secret menu item. It's not going to be
available on the site, but if you really want the old red Massonomics certified training facility
flag, you can order the new Jim Radar one and mention in the order comments that you actually
want the Red OG Massonomic certified training facility flag while supplies last.
And there's been some people taking advantage of that. So people sitting on the sidelines
that are now poking their heads out ready to go.
So we're glad to have them on the team.
Sometimes you don't know what you got
till it's gone.
Someone should make a song about that or something.
I just came up with it.
They'd be paying me royalties.
But so there is that.
And if you do happen to be one of those people
that has been certified,
a Massanomic certified training facility this whole time.
We also do have a little deal.
If you want to be double certified,
you can just reach out.
We got a little discount code for you.
get you 50% off the gym radar flag if you already have the existing one.
Did you see Big Maths?
He said, do we allow DIY, Jim Radar T-shirt,
on the gym radar there?
No.
You have to buy them from us.
We'll start a category, DIY apparel.
That's what the website needs.
Do you remember that?
that do you ever did you ever see that we talked about it once many years ago it's called slobby robbie i think i don't know
if that was the name of the show that was the name of the guy it was this um oh he was almost like a
secondhand store of like oh yeah he had a sloppy stuff like that yeah yeah slobby's world there you
go we talked about that probably like six years ago on the podcast and then i watched a couple episodes
after that i'll be darned if i wasn't on main street of uh aberdeen and there's like a store like that
no. I'm like, I don't know how this is going to work here, but I, A for effort. I applaud your
effort on trying to make this work here. Yeah, the problem with that is a lot of times people,
you know, it is secondhand stuff, but now it's getting to be vintage and so people charge
vintage price on it. It's a certain, you need a large enough clientele base to support that,
and that's not the easiest thing to have. Yeah, I'm not saying it's not worth it to the right
people like there's this you know some of that stuff appeals to me certainly but uh you can have a
second hand store locally here in a small town and that works because the idea of a second
hand store generally is that it's cheap but when things are second hand and expensive that's a
difficult thing for some people to wrap their mind around i think it is it is unless they're like
uh piggybacking it off of some online component but probably not the case i don't know maybe
yeah oh that could be i actually haven't
It was closed and I haven't been into it and I've done absolutely no research.
I'm mostly speculating that that's even the kind of...
Let's make some more assumptions here.
Let's keep you going.
I'm mostly blindly speculating and everything.
Let's make some more speculations about people's business models.
Here we go.
Because we all know ours makes a lot of sense on paper too.
Yeah.
Explain this to me again.
Explain this to me like I'm four.
So people pay to be certified.
What does that mean?
Well, it's a flag and a certificate.
And how do you get certified?
Well, you pay for it.
Oh.
Like, yeah, yeah, that's definitely made up.
There's not many people doing that, right?
No, there's a lot of people doing it.
Hundreds.
Yeah, right.
Okay, buddy.
Yeah.
What do you, explain the supporting membership to me?
And then we made them do it twice.
Yeah.
Do we want to get into the big news?
This is big, or do we need to string this out a little bit farther?
There's one thing we can delay with, but now, maybe we should just get right to it before we get distracted again.
Really the meat and faders in the whole episode.
The chain of consciousness just starts rolling and all of a sudden we're 45 minutes in and we don't realize it.
Because this is big.
This is actually pretty big, exciting news, I think.
It is.
The Lift Hard Live Easy, I don't know if it's, I mean, the Lift Hard Live Easy at inception was a huge announcement.
That's probably bigger than this.
I guess then.
Do you have a can?
Oh, yeah.
What do you got a crispy cold one over there?
Yeah, I do.
What's that?
A blackberry lemon waterloo or something?
I just have unlimited of these.
They just don't go away.
Those things multiply like rabbits.
You know, you buy the flat of them from Costco and you think you're making a,
dent in it and just never goes anywhere.
A whole flat of pounders?
I got a waterloo also.
Sorry.
Can we act like I didn't hit that button?
I've got a waterloo also.
With the twins.
There it is.
What do you think about sparkling waters and pounders?
You know, not a lot of people do that one.
Liquid death does that, but not a whole lot outside of that.
I don't really think it's necessary for sparkling waters.
I think 12 ounces is the right, a 12 ounce can is the right size for a sparking water.
It's after 12 ounces, you're ready to change up the flavor if you want another one anyways.
I think 16 is too big.
I don't think you want a 16 in sparkling water.
That's the wrong size for it.
Yeah.
Now, we talk in bruskees.
Brewskies is different.
Oh, pounders?
We're talking about pounders?
When we're talking cans of bruskees, a 12 ounce can seems pretty small.
Like, whenever you can.
That's way too small.
When you come across a 12-ounce can of beer,
you're like, what's this miniature little beer?
Yeah, there's cute little cans that you can drink so fast.
I can have like 17 of these.
That's the trap.
It's a trap.
I had a really good brewski the other day.
I normally don't lift on the afternoon.
I usually,
usually on the weekends I lift one day on the weekend.
Usually Sunday a.m. is when I get to.
This last weekend was all.
different and wonky. The schedule is all weird. So I lifted on Saturday afternoon. I got done at about 6 p.m.
And one pathway that I can take home from the gym does lead me past Swan's Recreation. And I'm like,
it almost, it's a shame not to just stop in for one beer here Saturday at 6. And it was, I'm like,
I wish every day after the gym I could just stop there and have.
have one beer and then leave.
That would be like the perfect beer to me.
Just think about it.
Some people do that every day after work.
Just live in the life.
They do it the whole time until bedtime.
They do it after work from five until 10 o'clock.
And then they get to go do the whole thing all over again the next day.
Yeah, or just do it.
Jake's saying the same thing.
I do,
I sort of can see the appeal to that how it's fun.
Because you see all these same people and it's all fun.
Everyone's like, hey, you old bastard.
It's not your house.
It's just like going to the gym.
Not your house.
It's just like going to a second gym.
It is.
Actually, yeah.
It is just another gym.
That's exactly what it is.
But that was fun.
And that's it.
Oh, I can just picture it all in my head.
Yeah.
Where were we on this announcement?
All right.
We're just talking about it.
Just starting it.
Okay.
So I guess what was going to was going to riff on
the biggest ever lift hardly of easy announcement i think was when it was new and we said we're going to do it
so and then then the second year is that when we did strong man come about the second year or was that
the second year yes second year was strong man second year we added strong man third so that was a pretty
big announcement third year we changed the venue third year we changed the venue uh this fourth year we're
adding a little grip competition so we already got one thing in there but here's we that's not enough
that wasn't enough new, new to bring you for the Lift Hard, Live Easy 4.
So everyone's asking themselves, what could they possibly be doing different with the Lift Hard Live Easy 4 this year that they haven't done in the past?
And we'll pause for people to speculate quick.
Did you guess it?
The guesses are rolling in.
Yeah.
So what are we going to do, Tommy?
We are.
I hope you know we've been a lot of lead up to this for something.
We're just making up on the spot.
This was your segment.
By popular demand, one of the things people we've heard a lot of over the years is they wish there was a way they could partake or be a part of this more from afar.
When they can't make the,
because it's a big ask to ask everyone.
We want you to come here.
It's a trip.
But if you're coming from different parts of the country, you're making at least one connecting flight in Minneapolis, potentially even more, depending on where you're coming from.
and then you could potentially be renting a car, driving a long ways.
It's not easy.
Like, it's not easy to get here.
So what we wanted to do is make it more accessible,
have a way for more people to get involved,
if that's something they want to help foster the feeling of community and participation here.
And the way we're doing that is this year,
do we have a formal name for this, Tanner?
So far, it's just, I guess we would call it.
No, I guess we can really,
I mean, it is the lift hard live easy.
That's still in the name.
So this year we're adding an online component for the people that can't participate
and would like to.
So this will be the Lift Hardly Easy for online meet competition.
We'll clean up that name.
But that's the theme of what we got going on here.
So we want to get into the nuts and bolts of how this whole thing works.
Yeah, let's just go bullet point by bullet point of what this is because everyone's going
to have a lot of questions of what the heck this is.
But generally speaking, I would say it's what you said.
We wanted a way just for more people to be able to get involved with the Lyft Hardly
Easy because it's a huge massonomics event.
Coming to it in person, you know, everything's second to that.
But at least there is and will be now a way to be more involved if you can't do that this year.
Hopefully, you know, the next year, the next year you can make it.
But here's something for you to get involved in the community.
And all right, so the way it's going to work is we are going to open up registration on
our website, Massonomics, from May 1st to May 23rd. So it'll be about a three-week window
where you can register. You can register to sign up for the online portion. You say, well,
what is, what is registering consist of? What does this go? What's all here? So what you do is,
you go on. We got pricing here, Tann. Yes, we got pricing. So the way this works is you pay
$50 to get signed up. That gets you the meat t-shirt. That gets you. You,
entered in the online competition, and that also gets you a little commemorative magnet.
So it really ends up only being a few more dollars than a regular T-shirt to get signed up for this.
And you say, well, what does this get me?
And the prize is, one, like we said, you get to compete, get to enter, do all that.
But we are going to have prizes.
We're going to have Massonomics gift cards, and we are going to do a $100 gift card for every 20 people that sign up.
So 20 people sign up, we'll have one.
40 people will have $200 or two separate $100 gift cards and so on.
And if we get 100 people to sign up,
we will add in a grand prize of a $250 gift card.
And you will also,
you'll get a contest win out of this too.
And that's only if we make it to the grand prize level.
Yeah, it's only if we make it the grand prize level.
Yeah.
But you say, okay, so I get signed up, I get entered.
how does all, how does this all work?
How do you pick winners?
That's the beauty of it.
It's all random.
It's not based on the strongest person or anything like that.
We're just going to keep it random.
So it's fun.
You know, it is an online thing.
Judging it seriously gets very tricky and all that.
So to keep it fun, fair, and interesting,
everyone's got different equipment, different situations.
We're just going to pick winners at random and we'll get you added.
We also have a page on our website for all the competitors.
to get them posted on there,
we'll probably,
depending on how their lifts are submitted,
we'll probably link those out in one way or another
so people can,
you know,
you can see your performance,
see how you did,
and people can check in on you
if you post your lifts on YouTube or Instagram
or somewhere where we can actually link out.
Those are the highlights, Dan.
There's some more details too.
I don't,
do we want to go through all the details here?
Well, yeah.
So when you,
when you submit,
you'll submit your,
well, actually,
so you said,
the registration dates, it's from May 1st to May 23rd.
You have to sign up then because by May 23rd, it will close.
You won't be able to sign after that.
Reason being, that's when we need to get all the shirts ordered.
It's going to be the same shirt as the meat shirt for the Lyft Hardly Veezy,
you know, the same that people will be getting in person if they want to.
Because that actually is an important distinction because in the past,
we just order our guesstimate for what shirts should be.
And when the meat is done, whatever is left for shirts goes online.
and that can mean that some sizes are either completely sold out or very low.
This is another way to guarantee you do get a shirt because you are essentially pre-ordering it.
And so that's the registration period.
The submission period is a separate window, a separate specific window.
And it's basically the week right before the actual Lift Hard Live Easy,
or right before the week, right the week prior to the competition here in Aberdeen.
So it's going to be July 6th to July 12th you'll have to submit your results.
And that'll be submitted through our website where you will have to write in your numbers,
as well as provide a link to the video of you doing any of them,
whether that's on Instagram, YouTube, like some Google Drive.
If you don't use social media like that, you just have to provide a link to us
so that we can see the videos of you lifting.
however you want to do that link.
If, you know, Instagram or YouTube or anything like that,
that's a very easy way to do it.
But you can do that however, you know, whatever way you want to.
And what the competition actually is,
what is, I'm just trying to look at questions here.
It's not a checkmark for lifting at the lift,
hard leave easy.
I would say that.
This does not count as that checkmark.
I like somebody's comment, it counts as half a checkmark
and you get the full checkmark when you come lift at the lift hard easy.
I'll concede to that.
This counts as that.
half of the checkmark.
We'll compromise.
Yeah, it counts as half and you get the full one
and you kind of actually lift.
But if we do make it to 100 people,
someone could get a contest win checkmark.
But the actual submission,
you only get one week to do that,
July 6th to July 12th to submit your entries.
But what the competition is,
it's a power lifting meet.
And, you know, there's other ones out there
like garage gym competition
where you can kind of do whatever you want
on whatever bar.
Our rules are pretty loose,
but it's a little different than that.
in the sense that our expectation is all three lifts,
our traditional power lifting meat lifts,
so it's a bench press, a squat, and a deadlift,
all performed on a barbell, a traditional barbell.
You know, we don't care if it's a 28.5 millimeter barbell,
a 27 millimeter barbell.
We don't care if it's a deadlift bar.
We don't care if it's a power bar,
if it's a squat bar.
We don't care what you wear as far as wrap.
or wrist wraps or singlet or sleeves or singlets.
We don't care about any of that.
And the winners aren't based on the numbers that you get,
but we would say anyone submitting anything,
you should feel like it counts to you for whatever that counts.
You know, you should feel good about it.
As far as bench press goes,
we don't care if it's a long pause, touch and go rep.
You know, you do what you want to do there.
It should look and feel like a bench press.
it should look and feel like a squat,
it should look and feel like a deadlift.
We're not going to judge every aspect of those lifts.
But we do want them to be those lifts, right?
And the submission would be single rep attempts.
You can do 10 reps if you want to.
We would count that is the same as one rep, though.
You know, like it's, you don't get more credit for doing multiple reps.
The idea for the submission is it's a single rep,
attempts of each, each of the disciplines, right?
Yep.
What other questions are people going to ask about the lifting rules?
Like, I feel like that kind of covers the spirit of it.
But dates again.
And we will have a page on the website where all this is listed so we can see all this more
clearly.
But yeah, we're just kind of talking out through some of the bigger points right now.
But yeah, there will be a page that has all of this listed along with the dates,
along with the rules, along with how all of it works.
There are not weight classes, I guess is a question that Big Shalom asked
because the winners really aren't decided by that anyways.
So we don't really want to list weight, body weight, do we?
Because we don't want to measure what people's body weights are now, probably.
Yeah, so we're not going to even collect that information, I don't think.
All the information we're going to collect is your numbers on the three lifts
and the link to the video on the three lifts and your name and that is about it, really.
Yeah, because we have a T-shirt size.
We have no idea.
We don't know if 10 people are going to do this or 50 or 100.
You know, if there's a ton of people that do it,
maybe next year we'll get more detailed with collecting some of this stuff.
But yeah, we just have no clue what to expect as far as participation.
Right.
Yeah, so it is the week prior.
So it'll be done by July 12th.
We'll announce winners that week on the podcast,
so hopefully about July 14th.
we'll announce who won the prizes from the event and we'll probably just have some feedback you know some follow-up of things we saw that were fun or cool or you know some of the lists and things like that too and it's not to try and all of it to encourage you from not doing big lifts like that'll be fun to see and uh those will be some fun ones to share some of the bigger lifts that we see get performed in the uh in the competition like that's all cool for sure the other thing that
goes along with this.
So registration opens on May 1st for it.
That will also be the Lyft Hardly VZ Classic logo unveiling.
So everyone will want to see what shirt it is.
They're signing up to be able to get along with their registration.
And they'll be able to because we will unveil that logo on May 1st.
What day of the week is May 1st?
Does that actually make sense?
It's actually a good question.
I think we looked at that.
Yeah.
So it's a Friday, which is okay.
So Friday, A.
this registration will open and that'll be everyone's chance to get their first look at what the Lift Hardly Veezy 4 theme is.
Oh, it's good.
It's good.
Yeah.
I like it.
Yeah.
And people are asking about the contest win.
That is on the line if we get over 100 entries into the competition and then that
grand prize including the contest win on the Massonomics Hall of Fame checkmark will be at stake.
We talked about prizes.
We could potentially get,
could have gotten other people involved
on the prizes and stuff like that.
And we just wanted to keep this very much a massonomics.
Massonomics competition,
massonomics event,
an extension of the lift, hard,
live easy,
in person thing.
Shirts will ship in July
exactly when is a little bit
not sure, you know, I don't want to promise something.
But once you sign up in May, you'll complete in the beginning of July,
and then the shirts and magnet will ship sometime in July also.
I mean, it kind of sort of just depends on when we get them.
Right, right.
Okay, what else?
Ideally, the people would get them before the meet.
Bonus points for hex bar on all three.
No hex bars.
I actually want to mention this again.
The barbells need to all be straight barbells.
this coming from a guy that's completely straight,
the barbells also need to be,
well, I mean, they could be bent,
a natural bend to them.
I don't want it to be a bow bar, though.
Okay, anything else you got on it, Tommy?
Any questions that you notice that need to be asked or answered?
I don't think so.
I mean, we'll have, like I said,
more details on this soon,
but that gets most of the points across there.
Yeah, and one of the things I'm excited for,
that registration opening,
That's when everyone will get to see the Lift Hardly Veezy Classic for design, which is done.
It's starting to feel like a pretty big day on our calendar every year is the unveiling of that.
Yeah.
And it is done.
That's completed.
We have the, it's been finalized.
What do you think of it, Tommy?
I love it.
It's great.
Yep.
It's, if you've liked what we've done in the past, you're going to like this year, I think.
Continuing a strong lineage of what was before.
strong tradition.
Okay.
Should we get to a couple of our favorite little pieces of the
Massonomics podcast, like supporting our supporting members, for example.
Let's do it.
All right.
This one, buckle in, people.
Everyone was doing shit this weekend.
I'll tell you that much.
Supporting our supporting members is a relatively new segment of the podcast.
It's just the first time we've done it here in the second 10-year block of the
Masanomics podcast. It's the 25th time here in season two.
And what it is is we have this group of people that choose to become Massonomic
supporting members. You can do that too at massanomics.com slash join.
There's several different levels that you can sign up at.
All of them unlock just an awesome set of perks that you get.
One of them is possibly getting shouted out on supporting our supporting members.
Another thing is you could, this crew gift that we got coming up,
is coming up soon.
Some of the stuff has been ordered.
Yes.
Yes.
Like things are in motion here.
Yeah, things are in motion.
So the line in the sand
isn't today.
I'm not telling you yet to us today,
but it could be any one of these episodes.
It could be next week that we announced
the line in the sand date.
It could be very soon that we have that.
I can almost see the line in the sand
from where I'm sitting.
That's how you know it's getting close.
So if you're not a supporting member,
yet, make sure to get signed up because what we're going to do is we got this cool thing
we're getting made that we're going to send out to everyone that's a supporting member at that
point in time.
And if you're not signed up in time, you don't get one.
That's it.
There's no second chances on this.
You get one chance.
You only get one shot, one opportunity.
This week's supporting members that we want to support.
Big Katie competed at Max Monsters in the Pro 165 class.
She got a comp PR on log and had our beer ready for Big
Jake when he finished, who was also competing and won the pro 220-pound men's class,
which included a championship belt and an invite to pro-worlds competition.
I don't know what that is for sure, but he's invited.
Where was this at, actually?
I think it was in Wisconsin.
Okay.
I'm not positive.
I think it was in Wisconsin, though.
And a friend of the podcast, Deadliest Lift.
Mark Rosenberg was there competing also.
a whole bunch of people in on that one.
Jake won he attempted a national record log,
355 and just missed it.
I think he had two shots at it.
It didn't quite get it.
But there's always next time.
That's right.
Big Matt in a hat
competed at Victoria Strength Challenge Strongman.
He got second in the lightweight Masters division.
Big waffle iron,
powerlifting competition RPS meat,
this was. He went five for nine single ply, 1545 total, including 600 squat, 345 bench and 600
deadlift. Salt City Strong, a strong. You forgot. He also PR'd his gym situation as well.
Did you see the pictures on Jim radar of Muscle Beach? Oh, yeah. How could I miss them? And that means a lot,
you know, that was easily recognizable because we've been there before. So Muscle Beach got a real
lift, didn't it?
Mm-hmm.
It's beautiful.
Salt City Strongest
Strongman competition run by
Supporting member Big Dan.
He put it on.
There was seven crew members in attendance.
Big Lisa got second place in the 105 open,
including a 585-Axel deadlift.
Big Matt.
It was his first Strongman show,
and he got sixth out of 12th
in the intermediate class.
Big Keith, one spot behind him.
He got seventh out of 12th in the intermediate class.
So, supportive member stacking that class that looked like there.
The big Sesnys were there spotting and loading for the event.
Big Chris Mark was also in attendance.
Someone listening was Chris Mark competing to, or was he just helping?
Wasn't positive on Chris Mark.
We'll get follow up on that.
Big macho got third place in his sprint triathlon.
Big Chris Mark was spotting and just.
Man with two first names.
Big Caden, Officer Johnson,
graduated from his drug recognition expert school.
So he is now certified.
He's an expert.
He is certifiably an expert.
Good to have an expert around.
Big Jose got his invite to IPF Open powerlifting worlds in Lithuania.
I wonder if Big Z will be in attendance.
You know?
it'd be worth going just to find out.
Yeah.
Big Merlock Jones competed in Connecticut's strongest man.
He got third in the 105s and won the Stone Over Bar event.
Big Narrow Pavlo and Big Matt were representing the Pacific Northwest crew
at the Empire Classic Strongman competition where they both competed.
Big Curd competed in the Rolling Hills Grip Challenge 4.
including winning a tie-breaking dead hang for first place in his class.
Nice.
Big Mad Cow not to be outdone also competed in his grip competition.
He got second to grip sport mats, 93 kilogram class,
including a 200-pound Thomas-inch dumbbell hold long hold.
Wow.
200-pound Thomas-inch dumbbell.
Does that make you kind of jealous here that there's people out there doing that?
That doesn't make me jealous.
It's very impressive, though.
It's very good.
It is.
Big Jonti got third place in 110 kilogram class in his power lifting meat, including PBs,
because he's across the pond on all three lifts and a total.
PBs, all three lifts and a total.
The only thing that could be better is a PR on all three lefts and the total.
Only thing better than a P.B. on all three.
Big bumps set a new blind mobility.
PR by graduating from guide dog school with his new partner, Big Deirdrie.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah.
Last but not least, Big John from our neighbors to the south in Ontario was this week's
guest on unpaid and underrated.
You can go give that a listen.
It's our bratty little sister podcast.
John's a supporting member.
He's gotten involved in the community, so he got an opportunity to be a guest on that
show.
You could also get that opportunity by signing up and getting involved in the
Masonomics supporting membership crew.
Thank you to the many, many Massonomic supporting members that did stuff this week.
A lot of stuff going on.
That is a lot of them.
That's when it rains, it pours, am I right?
It feels like certain weekends out of the year.
It does.
Or everyone's agreed to know there's competitions this weekend.
And it must just be the ebb and flow of the.
calendar.
Yeah.
Nobody's in on it, but it's just, like, Easter got done.
Right.
And it's like spring.
These are very loose things, but.
But generally speaking, that's probably true, you know, where it's, you know,
there's not going to be the competitions on Christmas weekend or maybe not New Year's Eve or
probably not Easter and not Thanksgiving, you know, that you can mark a lot off that aren't
great weekends.
Yeah.
And then it makes sense that they get batch like this.
You know, yeah, well, you don't do things around the Arnold.
And you, I mean, there's.
Right.
Right.
You don't do something around the Lift Hardly Easy Classic
Unless it's the Lift Hardly Easy Classic.
You know, you leave the Arnold, Lift Hardly Easy Classic,
some national meets off the calendar.
All of a sudden there's just not that many days anymore.
Lift Hardly Easy Classic.
Just like the idea of someone sitting in a room being like,
oh, that's the weekend of the Lifterbury Classic.
But that's the weekend of the Lifetton.
We've got to rethink all of this.
What are we going to do?
What do you think?
We mentioned some cool gyms that we've popped up on gym radar in the past.
What do you think about doing a certified training facility of the week?
Yes, I really think we should.
Just like every week, the issue I have is picking one because there's so many cool gyms in here.
They just keep multiplying.
Every day I look, there's more gyms on gym radar, which is actually a gym.
In fact, every day there are more gyms flocking to jimradar.com.
There are, and it gets trickier and trickier to pick one every week
because they're just so dang good.
Okay, here's a pretty cool one.
Got a little vibe to it.
What's it called?
We're going to look at nasty reps in Tacoma, Washington.
Oh, nasty.
Nasty.
You give them the certified training facility of the week designation.
which is worth a bonus 50 points.
I just love getting that refresh button and see it update, update live.
Those Jim Radar guys.
Oh, they're the best over there, everything they do.
I actually don't know who's behind everything that's going on there,
but.
Behind or in front of it.
I don't know either one.
Well, that's true.
I don't know what direction.
I don't know if they're coming or going a foot or horseback for that matter,
but they're on top of something.
I know that months.
They got a good thing going.
and I like to see it continue to keep going.
All right.
Should we hop on into this gym?
Yeah, enough about speculating what these gym radar,
how handsome these gym radar guys could be.
Let's get into it.
We're looking at nasty reps in Tacoma, Washington.
Owner is Big Craig.
We're looking at a basement gym again,
about 350 square feet.
That's a good size basement.
That is a good size basement.
His top equipment brands,
rep fitness, bulletproof,
and Massonomics.
What a great group of brands right there.
Yeah, I love to see Massonomics in the top three.
As far as equipment pieces go,
he has 29 pieces of equipment logged on the website.
Big Craig has not left any reviews yet,
so can't look at his reviews.
He hasn't left any, but got something to look forward to
when he adds those.
Yep.
Okay, looking at the photos.
Very first thing,
I'm quickly realizing that what I'm actually a sucker for
is lighting and gyms.
Yeah.
Because he's got the LED light bar aesthetic pin down pretty good here.
So it's a dark gym.
The gym is dark.
I actually can't even tell what color it's painted because the lights are all dimmed,
but the lighting is what's lighting everything up.
So first thing we're looking at is the rep functional trainer.
Is this an Acadia?
Yeah, that's the Arcadia.
Arcadia.
Arcadia.
It's not a, it's not a GMC Acadia.
I'm like, where am I getting a Acadia from?
There's one thing I love.
It's GMC crossovers that are rebadged from Chevy products.
This is not a smaller GM.
Just a sucker for it.
Smaller GMC crossover SUV.
Just love all those crossover SUVs from the people over there at GM.
Just love what they're doing.
This is the rep Arcadia, though.
And he's got this thing tucked in the corner.
and he has what looks like a purple light bar
or a light bar of some kind behind it
and it's letting off a good purple glow
and this thing is shining
like people always put these in the corner, don't they?
It seems to be that...
You never put baby in the corner.
But you do put the rep Arcadia in the corner.
Yeah, I think that's the layout of this old girl.
That's typically how that goes.
Photo 2.
We got some machines in here.
Okay.
What's this leg extension machine here, Tanner?
That is the GMWD, oh, or it depends on what we're looking at.
He's also got, you could be looking at the 3D hip abductor machine.
No, I'm not looking at that one.
This is just like your traditional leg extension.
An actual leg extension.
I don't know if he's got that point.
It's reminiscent of the Titan one, but I don't think it's the Titan one.
Yeah.
I don't think he's got that noted here, so I'm not sure.
Oh, no, yeah, sorry, it's the X mark.
That's why we don't know.
It's the X mark rotary leg extension.
curl machine. That's why. When I look at it, my very first thoughts of what the hell is the
felt load at the top of this thing? Because how is he going to lift without having that properly
documented? I'd like to dig a little deeper into the felt load on that old, that old girl there
too. But I don't know. We're just going to have to speculate on felt load for now. That's all we can do.
Well, you know what they say, your legs ain't extended. Your legs ain't extended. You're just pretending.
And it looks like his legs. It's the size of the leg in the extension. It's the size of the felt load in the
It does look like, though, there should be some excellent range of motion.
I don't see any bars to inhibit your range on this thing at the bottom there.
But what good is range of motion if the felt load is?
That actually is a very good point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If the felt load isn't just crushing you at all points, then there's no way you could ever get
strong on it.
I'd really like to get a feel of that load if you know what I mean.
Yes, I do.
Behind that in the gym, he has, what is this?
Is this some type of Temple of Gaines pull-down machine?
What is this?
That's definitely a Temple of Gaines unit that we're working at.
That's the plate-loaded isolateral chest and back machine.
Wow, I've never seen this one.
Two-fer.
Yeah, that's a big, pretty big old.
What I like about this machine is sometimes when I want to work out,
I wish I had more options for sitting on my ass.
and it looks like this machine has two different seats on it.
Did you see that?
There's a seat in the front and the back.
So you've got two options for sitting on your ass all you're lifted.
I don't think there's enough companies taking advantage of that angle.
Of two seats, one machine, one machine, two seats.
Double the ass sitting.
That is an interesting design though.
if you've seen what you can do there because on the one seat you're pressing on that lever on the other seat you're
pulling down on the lever yeah i'd like i mean that's just ripe for a video with two people doing both
and you're like doing them in unison or something right you know like one guy that's just cater made
right it's kind of like yeah like the guy behind is the spotter he knows when it's his turn to go
right in the front's just waiting and then he pushes it back to the other guy and then you can kind of do you know
those like the cheater reps at the end when you're both burning out.
Yeah.
Assist each other.
Yes.
I,
that would cause an entire felt load dilemma.
Not knowing who's feeling what load.
Just going off of pure feeling.
Yeah.
No,
I know.
I would not leave a workout to just pure feeling.
No,
I need to know.
I need to know what the fulcrum without lever arm is before I'm going to lift anything.
All right, next.
Let's get things first.
The first things first before we get into lifting these weights.
Simple machines.
Have you heard of them?
We're talking pulleys and levers, baby.
Let's bust out the protractor and start figuring out the math behind this before we even think about lifting it.
And we'll write it on the machine.
So there's never a debate about what the felt load is here.
He also has a rep.
Is this a PR 5,000?
Yep.
Is that a VR 5,000?
Is it a clear grind on that thing?
Looks pretty good.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's hard to tell with the lighting,
but it does look cool in there.
I think it is.
I think that is.
I think that's what it is.
And then he has,
all right,
so this is interesting.
He has the VTS on there.
Just like we've seen in a few gyms.
It's like we've seen in a few gyms now.
That looks like the rep.
What is that bench?
Like a 3,100.
I can never get this number right.
Yeah, that sounds right.
3,000.
3,000.
There you go.
I just assume everything has a 100 on the end of it.
It comes from up.
And then it's got some darko anchors.
He has, it looks like, well, I don't know if it's actually wall control or not.
Maybe you know that, but it looks like he has wall control mounted on the wall behind the rack,
which is not where we typically see it, but it is a pretty convenient spot.
Yeah, that's cool.
And I can see, it also has kind of this nice wood paneling back there.
And I can see the Massonomics certified training facility certificate framed on the wall over there.
which you always love to see.
Yeah, you do love to see that.
What else do we got?
Oh, we got the GMWD.
Is it the 3D hip adductor machine?
Yep, that's what it is.
I'd like to try that.
Actually, you're more of a gluteator guy more than me.
Yeah.
I'd like to get on that thing sometime and see how it stacks up.
I think they said they'd send that to us if we wanted it.
The problem is some of us.
I don't think people realize how often people say,
hey, free tab.
The tab is open, do it.
And you know what we usually say, nah?
That's not even an exaggeration.
How much that,
who is the company right now that keeps telling me they really,
and I look through the whole catalog and I'm like,
I don't think Tommy and I would actually functionally keep you there.
This is how.
So I kind of like, nope.
This is how much not chills we are.
It's almost a weekly basis.
Companies reach out and say,
hey, do you want something?
Tell us what you want.
or hey, we'd like you to come here.
We'll buy the plane ticket.
And you know what we usually do?
Nothing.
I'm not even, I'm being dead serious.
People offer us free crap.
I'm not saying crap.
People offer us free good stuff all the time.
Yeah.
And do you know what our typical?
It's like, no.
No, we actually just, we appreciate the offer.
Well, because we don't take it.
If I don't think one of the two has a legit use for us or we don't agree.
Oh, we've talked about it before.
Let's have a use for it.
We just say no.
Because in Massonomics gym, like, let's be real, unless stuff is like approaching commercial
quality or commercial quality, it's not going to work there or something.
A lot of home gym stuff, the fatal flaw of it is it's infinitely adjustable and you have to know
what you're doing, which is actually not good for a commercial setting.
No, it's not.
So there's a lot of pieces that don't work in Tanner's gym.
And then there's a lot of pieces that I have the basics covered.
And so now I'm at the point of things that need enormous footprints.
And there's just a lot of.
of things. I'm like, nah, you know what? I don't want to spend like 15 hours putting together a
functional trainer, take up half of my gym, and then dick around with this for a few hours to do
a review. Like, that's actually just not what I want to do. And so we just, we don't do those things.
Or like this GMD, GMWD machine that we're literally talking about. I'm like, I kind of do want one of
those. Maybe this one's even more well built than what I'm imagining. But I'm just like, I'm not sure
if it's what the piece for massonomics gym you know what i mean like it's just not uh i'm not sure if
it's got the staying power to last there or here's the one uh hv o fitness they've asked a couple
times and i've looked through their catalog and i'm like as of now i guess don't send us anything
because i can't really you know none of that is uh we don't really have a home for any of that for
the time being so it doesn't really fit for us so they've asked a couple times so what i would say
if you've ever offered to send us something we've taken it,
that means we actually,
we're like, yes,
that's good,
we want that.
There's only a few times a year we actually do that.
Yes.
And hey,
I'm pumped for the people that do that,
like,
always get new stuff in.
Like,
that's great for you because I don't have the patience
or the time to actually do that.
Like,
it's,
I'm glad there's people out there doing it
because I never would.
Yeah.
He said I need to build out my garage gym.
It's not going to happen in the garage that I have right now.
He's saying you need to build out your,
your Tanner's question, right?
Right, right.
But my garage isn't big enough now, which is a funny thing to say, because my garage is quite big.
But someday when I have another garage, that's probably what will happen.
And I've looked at a few different options there.
So we'll see what happens someday.
It probably will happen at some point in time.
My wife said we're not allowed to get an extra shed in the backyard.
So I know it's not going to be a shed in the backyard.
She said we're not going to have a yard.
of sheds.
A commune of sheds.
Yeah.
Round them up.
We can't, I can't really build a garage that we can get to on my property that we can
access.
So that probably won't happen.
We've looked at some things.
But someday I probably will have an extra gym like that.
And then some of those things, things like that we can look at more closely.
All right.
We got to get back to the tour.
This did just remind me actually.
We just got, there was one thing this week.
It was like a, it's like my wife was serving up backhanded compliments to me.
I'm in the gym lifting.
You know, the weather's nice out now.
So it means sometimes the kids are out there playing or, you know,
they're doing whatever they're doing.
And wife goes, you know, isn't it funny?
Like your whole business kind of revolves around gyms and garage gyms.
And all you got is this tiny little gym over here.
And I want to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay.
He's up on the, like, ease up.
She's watched too many Massonomics gym tours of Jose's.
We don't need to just be knocking me down a few pegs here.
Like, come on.
This is a very nice gym.
She goes, you know what?
For a straight guy, you know, I just thought your gym would be bigger.
You piece of shit, what's going on here?
And I said, hey, listen, I could do more, but I got what I want right now.
I have options.
I can do things.
But this is everything I need.
You said, have you seen the felt load on my GMWD?
Get over here.
Grab this scale.
Let me load this up right now.
You can see for yourself.
You decide if we need anything else.
And she's like, okay, you're right.
We're probably set with this.
All right.
But like we were saying, back to the GMWD hip 3D ad ductor machine.
I'm sure it's a fine unit.
I'd love to try it out.
Oh, for a home gym, if you got the space and you want that machine,
that's probably a sweet.
I'm sure we could read reviews on it on gym radar and probably find out more if we wanted to.
Yeah, I genuinely look forward to the day when we get to a gym that has one of those
so we can see what it's about.
Next up.
Oh, is this a...
That's also GMDWD pendulum squad.
Okay, GMWD Penddlem Squad.
Pendlems Scott would be nice to have.
I think about that more and more.
Is that the same one that Big Chris had?
I can't remember if his was GMWD or if it was like a white label.
Yeah.
Because he did a lot of kind of Alibaba Timu type stuff.
So I don't know.
I'm not sure what one he had for sure there.
I can't remember.
But again, for a home gym, totally acceptable.
Like that gets the job done.
And last but not least, there it is.
We got a iron horse.
We got the Peloton bike loaded up.
I can also see some Ivanko plates loaded on the wheat tree there.
Yep.
Even turn the Peloton screen on for the photo up.
Yeah.
I like it.
So, after looking at all that,
Tommy, do you think you could get strong in nasty reps?
Oh, hell yeah.
We're getting some nasty reps in at nasty reps.
We're really getting some nasty reps in on that plate load.
an isolateral chest plus back machine, double team in that machine.
I still think that's the move.
You do a video one versus the other one going down.
Last man standing.
The last man sitting on his house.
Who can sit on their ass the longest.
Eventually someone just collapses and falls out of the chair.
I couldn't sit down any longer.
I couldn't sit up.
I was so fatigued.
I couldn't sit up any longer.
The fatigue got me.
My ass was hurting.
I just had to stand and walk around for a minute.
My ass was tingling.
My ass fell asleep.
I just had to stand up this workout.
It's so stupid.
For no.
that doesn't know we've been talking about workouts where you sit on your ass.
It's just been saying, I want to make a video where it's like, come with me.
Don't say that too much.
I think I'm going to do that.
You don't want to spoil the surprise on that one.
Yeah.
All right, nasty reps.
Love the color scheme.
Would make for a hell of a gym tour if we ever get up that direction and probably will someday.
be on the lookout nasty reps.
How are you feeling about a radar report?
Oh, hell yeah.
I'm going to hit us with a little something then.
Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?
Radar love.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you, Ron Burgundy.
Oh, I had an idea for a radar report
of what I wanted to mention here,
and now it's escaping me just a little bit.
Was there anything you wanted to mention on the radar this week?
One thing I was going to talk about is looking at it.
So the approved equipment list is over $6,700 now,
which since we launched is more than double from when we launched.
Yep.
That's gotten up quite a bit.
It's got up by more than 3,000 pieces, I believe.
And I feel like we're catching up, but at the same time,
about the moment you think you're caught up,
there's just more stuff that appears in there.
Yeah, for anyone that wants to know,
we're getting about 40 requests a day of new equipment to get added.
You know, sometimes they're turning around real fast.
Sometimes we get a little bit of a backlog,
but that's about average.
It may be 30 to 40 a day average.
Some days are above that and some days are probably a little less, but right around that of new requests coming in like clockwork.
And someday we'll probably have every single piece, but it's going to take a little while.
I guess that leads me into what I was thinking.
I just kind of refreshed my memory.
We've done some talking on, well, we're always looking at new additions to the site.
We got actually some cool stuff, really cool stuff that's in the works now.
It probably won't be that long until it's, you know,
I don't know how many weeks that'll be until implementation.
I'm not going to talk about that yet because that'll be a big,
that'll be a big announcement when we add the thing we're working on now.
But we have even talked just from like the equipment list standpoint.
As we progress on this and get more caught up on just what we consider raw gym equipment,
we will probably make some additions to that going into the future.
Like so far we haven't.
added very much of like the therapy products,
I guess, for lack of a better term,
like saunas, cold plunges, theragons,
recovery and therapy stuff.
Even a lot of roller things that aren't just a straight up roller.
We've, we've kind of said no to,
but that's something that someday we looked to probably add more,
you know, boxing and MMA equipment.
We really haven't, we've kind of steered away from that to that could probably be,
You're talking like heavy bags
Kind of like punching bags
That sort of thing
We've kind of denied that stuff for now
Because it's not at the core of what we're trying to add now
The one that comes up probably the most
Is some of the other wearables like wraps, straps, belt, sleeves
And that is on our list too
But that will be a large undertaking when we add that
And you know where exactly they go
And how exactly it fits in in comparison to the actual gym equipment
And with an infinite runway, probably all of that stuff will come to be in a way.
But it's going to take some time.
You know, none of that's in the immediate future.
But just as an update to that, because I know people are curious about it, it's all on our radar, you could say.
And even as far as the equipment goes, when we say there's new equipment being requested,
there's basically nothing that's getting requested from brands that, uh,
that you would actually consider home gym brands.
Right.
I mean,
those companies are 98% done.
There's almost nothing left.
For the most part,
the things that are getting requests that are just more Amazon stuff.
And then people putting in commercial machines,
mainly for the sake of reviewing them,
not a lot of people own like new commercial machines.
Right.
But we are adding all of those because those do get found and added
as used equipment to home gyms.
They do.
And the cool part is, because we're even adding so many of those, which it feels like
there's an infinite amount of brands and commercial pieces, we add so many of those.
Like, there's going to come a day when someone comes to add something because they bought
it used.
And they're like, there's no way this is in there.
And then it's there.
You know, it's going to be there on Jim Radar already.
So, yeah, we're going to keep adding.
You guys keep requesting.
And we will keep doing our best to get more in there.
They said it earlier in the show.
new gyms coming to gym radar every single day.
There's never been a day where there hasn't been new gyms and gym radar.
And there's kind of this pattern where we get roughly X number of new ones per day,
which is awesome.
And we're going to do everything we can to help keep that growing.
And you guys can help us do everything you can to help us keep that growing too by letting
any of your home gym friends know about Jim Radar that aren't on it already.
They might know about it, but you can harass them and tell them to get signed up and get on there so we can check out their gym and you can check out their gym and everyone can check out their gym.
And that's the radar report.
I guess that's why they call it the radar report.
Yeah, I think you nailed it.
Okay.
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I would start by saying,
I still, to this day, right at this point,
I don't know who Well Tennyson is,
and I've never seen any of his stuff.
And I know he has a huge YouTube following.
I don't know who he is.
I'm not saying that to poo-poo him.
No.
I'm just literally saying, I don't know.
I didn't know who he was.
until, I don't know, six months ago or so
because I think he does some kind of like
gym tours too where I've seen him pop up
in reference to that. And it seems like
from the little bit of content of him that I've seen
is, seems to have the YouTube thing figured out very well.
Seems to have that down good.
Looks like he's in really good shape.
Seems to have a love for the gym.
And outside of that, don't know much about him.
I mean, is your estimation that he is
a YouTuber?
He's famous from YouTube.
He didn't have another thing and then he got to YouTube.
That was how I took it.
Okay.
I also think he's like 30 something too.
He's not like a kid.
Right.
I've never watched one of his videos before.
I've never been aware.
I mean,
I'm only aware from like this gym tour stuff and like Coop has done things with him.
And I hear other people talk about him,
but I don't personally know,
but my assumption has been he's a,
obviously he's a YouTuber based on the size of his audience,
but I guess my question,
was, did he have, was he something else prior to that?
And he leveraged it into YouTube or did all of it come about from YouTube?
I think from YouTube, the AI overview, which those things are never wrong,
says that he's a prominent Canadian fitness YouTuber, 4.78 million subs.
He won his natural pro-bodybuilding card in 2025.
Okay.
And he's jacked.
He is.
Yeah.
So he's very jacked.
I mean, if he won his natural body.
pro card. You know, he's legit, I would say then.
He's not just, it's not just a little hobby of his.
He's, he knows what he's doing.
Oh, yeah. He knows a thing or two.
So then he had a new gym and did Coop do a tour of that gym?
Is that what it was?
Yeah, because that's, at first he had, and I didn't watch the whole video.
A few months ago, he had like a, it was like an Alibaba gym or something, but it was like
his temporary home gym.
And I, I was confused, because I didn't know if that just was the gym.
But then, okay, now they did have.
he had like a big unveiling of his full official gym
and he had Coop come out and give a review.
And, you know, it has the whole YouTube story behind all the stuff
before he gets to the gym tour.
But I kind of skipped ahead to more of the gym tour part
and click through some of that.
And it is a super nice gym.
It was at Atlantis, right?
It's Atlantis the Canadian company.
He's got it just like decked out with Atlanta stuff,
which, you know, is expensive with, I mean, super nice equipment.
Really cool.
And this is in his basement.
You know, the whole thing is super, I mean, he's no doubt spent a ton of money on it.
It's absolutely a place you can get strong just to get out in front of that one, Tanner.
It's the real deal.
But when I was watching it, I kind of noticed this trend.
You know, there's, he has this nice gym that he's built out.
Not too long ago, there was Jeff Nippard.
Jeff Nippard, there you go.
Jeff Nippard.
Coupe, even himself, is in the middle of built up.
and out a pretty banging home gym it looks like.
I don't think he's done a full reveal on that yet.
But I would imagine that that would probably be pretty soon here.
He's probably waiting for the Massonomics gym tour.
You know what?
If I know Coop, like I think I do it.
I'm guessing he wants to give us the first crack at it.
He's waiting for us to get the scoop on that.
He wants our YouTube channel to get the views of his new basement gym.
Not whatever is going on at Garage Gym reviews that he ominously,
sat in the comment section of his videos.
We've never talked about it again since.
I don't think of our episode,
but there's obviously a lot of things going on at garage and reviews.
I like in his most recent video,
it was just the funniest comment to leave on his own video.
It says,
Hey, guys,
sorry for the lack of reviews lately.
There's things that are going on that are out of my control
that I'm working on behind the scenes.
And like you said,
There's definitely something going on there.
But man, that is just like airing it out there.
And it's a weird thing because, you know, we love Coop here.
We love Coop's content.
We like seeing what he's got going on.
But out of his control, it's interesting because it's, well, do you not own the channel?
Like, is it because it's not your channel?
Or is it because there's some ownership?
I mean, you would assume there's ownership things going on.
I mean, yeah.
And if reviews aren't coming out, you also assume there's probably something going on with who owns the affiliate.
There's like a power struggle or some, there's a,
some sort of strife there probably.
Also, one thing we looked at the other day,
Barbend is almost just a clone of Garage Gym reviews at this point.
You know, before Bar,
which Pillar Far also owns,
but before Barbed used to be like a news page,
they have some news stuff.
Strength Sports News kind of.
But if you look at their navigation,
it's just the same.
It's like the actually,
I'm not just saying that like,
oh, it's the same kind of thing.
It's actually like the same content,
just copy paste it from garage room reviews.
and it exists on barbend again.
So Pillar 4 is really milking that one right there.
I have to milk you.
We need all of it.
But anyways, what I'm trying to say is watching all of these videos of these guys,
they build these really nice gyms.
And you know what I can't help but think is missing?
And it's not another Voltra.
It's not another commercial piece of gym equipment.
What I think is missing.
More seated light extensions.
His double-seated machines.
It's more opportunities to sit on your ass.
What I can't help but feel like is missing from these gyms is a little bit of character.
They're all very clinical, very sterile.
You know, am I in a physical therapy office that just has a banging gym budget or am I in a Verizon cell phone store?
I don't really know.
It's also clean and perfectly lit.
But there's nothing that indicates any, you know, I'll say this for a good.
example. We've been in a few, we've been in a couple gyms in our days, Tanner. We've seen a
more gym tours on YouTube than anyone else on YouTube. I wasn't going to say it. I wasn't
going to say it, but you did. Okay. You know, we've seen a gamut of how people do things. And
I'd say for the most part, the most gyms we tour do have somewhat of a story on the walls of their
gym. You know, you can get a feel for what someone's into, whether that's musically,
whether that's idol, icon, inspirational people that they look up to, you know,
you'll see a fair number of Arnold and Ronnie and pictures like that in people's gyms.
It might even be other sports, you know, Michael Jordan.
You'll see what their other hobbies are even in general.
Yes, what their hobbies are.
Just things people like.
You know, you go to Gunner Peterson's.
He likes gorillas.
He's got gorillas on the wall.
You know, you might go to Willie's weight room.
He's got a bunch of old classic.
car,
most of the car stuff on the wall.
You know,
like people's personality
shines through.
I can get a little feel
for at the very least,
I can get a feel for
what you're into
or what your hobbies are,
or at least there's going to be something
that just speaks to something
that you like personally,
whether that's massanomics,
flags and banners,
or something like that.
Like, there's almost always
something that shows a little character.
Yeah.
And, you know, the extreme of that
is you go to somewhere like
Masonomics or Donnie Thompson's gym.
or where you can't like you actually don't even have enough time to like it's like a museum there's
just full story it's like the like what is the next thing yes it's the halls of those who came before us
like it's like damn this is so cool looking at everything but you look at these gyms and that's my
one knock against them is they got the equipment thing dialed into perfection they got the equipment
selection dialed into perfection the whole aesthetic is just just perfected but the
personality. I want some personality out of these things. And it's not in there right now, man. That's,
that, that'd be my one critique of these gyms. If I had, I couldn't, I couldn't critique him on
equipment, any of that. We know you can get strong anywhere. I have no equipment critiques. No budget
critiques, none of that. It's just, give me some personality. Other than the dual seat
machines. Okay. Yeah. So here's the, you need a machine with two seats on it. And both of those
seats should have access to two Voltras at the same time. So you can be doing, so you can be doing chains
bands while you're doing your double-sided workout here.
That's my only critique for equipment.
Yeah, they do kind of look like that, though,
where they look like a physical therapist office.
Right.
Like, that's what it is.
Like, you go, when you go, Tanner, you've gotten through some knee surgeries.
When you go to a physical therapy clinic,
is it's exactly what they look like clinical and, you know,
sort of white walls, clean, modern looking.
Which is nice per se, but like if it's my,
you want to feel something a little more.
than therapy.
Right.
You want to,
right.
Physical therapy.
I want to feel.
Yeah.
You know,
it's kind of like the cool part about when we go to gyms.
Absolutely.
That is,
that is what's cool about gyms is when you got.
Like you go to Jose's and he's got all the different IPF country,
uh,
singlets on the wall,
you know,
just the,
you go to Boston,
Jose's,
he's got surf stuff on the walls.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's,
that is what's cool.
Like everyone,
every place has a little bit different story.
Because it is the extension of it kind of being the man cave,
and that's a way for people to show their personality and what they're into.
You go to Ray Hill Strong Gym or to the no wine cellar,
and there's hundreds of printed photos that are lined the rafters of like
chalk drawings that they've been at the gym.
They've made themselves.
PR boards of them and people that were there before.
Not that everyone has to, you know, so like,
Masonomics is very much like the eclectic.
their shit everywhere.
And I'm not saying,
like I'm not saying
all ideal gyms are shit everywhere.
Like, no, that doesn't have to be the look.
Even, like, that's just what I'm saying, though,
is the person, like, I really do,
I appreciate the clean aesthetic of all this.
I think it looks awesome.
But give me something that you're into, man.
I want to walk in there and be like,
oh, you like this?
And whether that thing is, hey, maybe you're just,
maybe you're just a proud rogue owner and you have a rogue banner.
I mean, you got something.
Right.
But yeah, I think that's what is missing from these gyms.
I think so.
You know what's been missing from the Massonomics podcast?
A training update.
Oh.
Have you been training insane or remaining the same?
Strap in.
There's only two.
Sit down and put that seat buckle on your seat.
Strap into some 1RM leg extensions.
We're about to find out.
Yeah, training's been interesting for me lately.
It's been, uh, it's actually, it's been good.
It's been good.
But what I've, your legs been extended.
Uh, no, actually mine.
I've been peeking for my leg extension.
So I've been peeking for it by not doing that movement.
And I'll say this.
I'm, my squats.
Actually, this is just my problem.
I think I'm just, I actually hit, this was yesterday.
I told my wife, I'm like, this is my way.
up call, I got to start going to bed earlier. I'm just too damn tired and I'm not like I feel
like I'm just scraping everything I can like pulling out all the tricks to get these lifts done.
And I'm getting them done like it's happening. You know, like yesterday I squatted 445 for a set of
four and it moved just fine. But I had to get pretty pumped up for it because I just feel like
I just need to be sitting on my ass when I get in the gym.
Did you,
did you record that set?
I could be posting saying it's,
I actually,
I should have,
I should have recorded it.
I know,
no,
I did record it.
I should have posted it.
I can send it to you,
but yeah,
I got that.
And then like,
the other day I had bench and I've had to,
I very rarely do this.
Even,
here's a little hack and juggernaut.
I asked you how many hours of sleep you got the night before.
I always leave that at seven because I don't want to,
it to lower my weight. I want to see what the weight is going to be and then I'll decide if I want to
lower it. Yeah. But the other day, I'm like, no, it's just too many days in a row of six
hours of sleep and then also getting interrupted multiple times. Yep. Which is doable. I can,
I can get through my life like that. But what I'm really just, it's coming to my realization is
when I look from January to now, like going through January, I'm like, I can, I'm actually
progressing all my lifts weekly. And then in January, it was probably about the time we really
started dumping a bunch of time in a gym radar just started staying up way too late way too
regularly yeah and i just started to make that normal it's like no i just stay up past midnight all the
time now that's what i do when it's not what i should be doing but i've just like told myself that
and it's like oh i just stay up way too late and then what it is i'm tired and then i'm just actually
i've been not eating enough lately too and like i mean i see it macro factor it's like oh you're
300 calories short for the day i'm like i don't feel like eating so i just like let myself
be hundreds of calories short.
And then a couple weeks ago, I was sick.
And so all that combines to me being, since January, being down like eight pounds.
And which also isn't going to my favor, you're not sleeping enough, not eating enough.
And, man, I'm horse cocking it for the, for the, you know, I'm horse heft and heave.
I am.
I'm making it happen.
But I'm like, no, no, like, this is catching up to me.
It's getting, it's getting too challenging for the way things should be going.
So, yeah, I need to just start going to bed sooner.
need to be eating a little more for like these last three months here.
Just keep it dialed in a little bit.
And I'll be just fine because last year I was just looking back.
Last year I tweaked my back in like the first week of May and basically didn't get to do any lifting leading into the meat.
And my meat was just fine.
And my numbers are all.
So if you can keep lifting.
Can you imagine you got to lift for the last two months going into a meat what you could do?
And my numbers are all the same or better across all lifts than they were.
at this time last year.
So, like, that's also a good sign.
But, like, yeah, so I, that's a very, very long story to say where I'm at with things.
But as far as the actual lifts going.
So it's going pretty decent, but it could be better.
It could be better.
But, like, it was, I think a month ago.
Like, I did 465 for a triple on squat, which I don't think I've ever done that before.
Yeah, yesterday I did 445 for 4.
For 4.
And, like, in my head, they felt terrible.
But then I watched it.
They were fine.
Bench was going really good.
that's the one that when I get a little tired and my body weights down,
it definitely comes down.
I had a weight.
I did 3.30 for like four the other day,
which I mean,
I'm still right in the ballpark of my best numbers ever.
It's just like things were actually just going up every week,
like into January.
And then since then it's kind of like,
oh yeah,
Juggernaut isn't giving me bigger numbers because I'm like saying,
no, this is getting too challenging for me.
So for like the last couple months,
it's sort of been sitting level.
and I actually the volume I can actually handle the volume pretty well it is just when it comes to the RP 10 days is where I start to get myself in trouble yeah and yeah I said uh deadlift what was that last week I did 475 for like a set of three and that's the biggest debt pull I've had since the meat of any kind right so things are on the right
it's the most weight you've had on the bar yeah I haven't I haven't had full over 450 on the bar since the meat like last time I touched a hell of the deadlift with more
and 450 pounds at the meat last year.
Actually, I might not.
$45.
Do you think it's any coincidence that you got a new leg extension machine this year?
Then the numbers have gone up this much?
You know, not you say it.
There's no other explanation for this.
That's the only variable.
That has to be it.
It has to be it.
But.
Because your legs had, at least, for a period of time, been extending.
They had been extending.
Yeah, you're right.
I didn't consider that.
That's got to be.
That's got to be the X factor there.
So we'll see.
We'll see how these next few weeks play out.
I just, last night was good.
I read my book.
I went to bed.
I was in bed by 10.30, sleeping not long after that.
And I was out.
And I felt good this morning.
I'm like,
imagine if I just started doing this regularly how I could feel.
So that's my goal.
I just got to eat a little more,
sleep a little better, and I'll be good.
That's all it takes.
Yeah.
What do you got?
Let's hear what.
I haven't had much training updates from me other than seeing some double
overhand PRs.
are some double over-hand challenges.
I'm all into the little odds and end challenges right now.
That's where my training's at.
Well, I'm doing that mostly because I did decide I'm not going to,
my knee is not normal,
and I can't do the strong man competition because there's a high likelihood.
My knee would just get more hurt.
My knee just doesn't feel good.
It clicks and pops and,
I mean, it just, it's the first thing I noticed.
It's been 18 months,
and it's still, like I get at,
out of bed. It's extremely stiff. I can hardly walk for a while and it's just not very good.
I mean, if my goal was just, I'm not a lifter and I just like walk around, like that's the most
exercise to do. Just go to work. Go to join. Just go home. Yeah. My knee would be mostly fine. It'd be
stiff sometimes. But like when I'm trying to, if I want to do a yoke carry for time and farmers
carry and a max deadlift and, you know, max log overhead press, it is not. It is not. You know,
good for that still.
So if I was to hurt it again,
it would be...
Just start throwing the dirt on you right now, actually.
Yeah, it would be like the most demoralizing thing
that could happen to me.
Like if I tore an third AC,
the way that this one is gone,
if I did something dumb and tore my ACL for a third time,
I'd be like, yeah, you can actually just start throwing
the dirt on me now because I can't do another 18 months of,
uh,
down that road.
but what's actually been relieving is that I decided yeah I can't do that so I'm not going to worry about it
and then I have done some other stuff that I'm like ah I really like these other things that I'm doing like
like the double overhand deadlift because what did you do the other day on that I just started uh
because I just once I decided I can't really chase that stuff I'm like I want to actually so what my
one goal is at least one because I like to have something I like to have and
actually like to have multiple things if I can't do something.
So I'm like, well, I'm going to shift this because I'd quit doing trying the Thomas
inch dumbbell months ago because I'm like, well, I'm focusing my actual training and I can't
spend 15 minutes, you know, doing this because I need to spend that time on my primary
lifts and then my accessory lifts that are important.
And so I haven't been doing it at all.
And I kind of try to get it.
I'm like, man, this is really hard again because I haven't been training at all.
So I'm like, I want to get that by the Lift Hardly Easy class.
Like I want to pick up the big one.
And I think I can if I actually train it for a while.
Yeah.
So that's one of my things.
I've been training that now.
So I'm doing it at least two days a week.
Actually, what I kind of do is a heavy day and a reps day of training Thomas inch dumbbell stuff or some Thomas inch dumbbell variation.
So what does that look like on those for heavy versus reps?
What do you change?
What do you?
Heavy day, I'm actually using Mad Cow.
magnetic weight horns that he is and I'm just like literally just like going for heavier reps
or I'll do super maximal where I'll do actually the Thomas inch and I just do finger assist.
So you can assist with four fingers, three fingers, two fingers, one finger.
Or you can assist all the way up and let it down.
Like any of those things are what I'm doing, what I, the training doesn't make perfect sense,
but just the rough ideas one day is a max day.
Mac, one day's a heavy day
and the other day is a four reps day.
So on my four reps, I'm just using the lighter one
and just doing sets.
When did you start doing this again?
Just, I've been doing it for two weeks.
So I've had like five.
Do you feel like in two weeks,
have things gotten better?
Yes.
Really?
Way better.
All of a sudden.
That fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I guess I just,
because the first time I,
even the light one,
I'm like, man,
I can feel like I can barely do this one all of a sudden.
And now it's like,
okay, no,
this one's really easy again already.
Yeah, so that's coming back really fast.
But that's too much talking about that because it's such a silly little thing.
But that's one of the things I'm doing.
And then one of the other things I'm just doing,
I'm just doing linear progression on deficit deadlifts for a while because I just,
when I get stuck a little bit, I like to go to deficit deadlifts because they always help
me because when I get done with progression of those and I go back to off the floor,
it always feels so good to me when I go.
I'm like, what am I pulling this from like?
Right.
Am I cheating?
Yeah.
That's what it feels like.
So I love deficit deadlifts I always have.
I mean, they suck.
They're hard.
How much of a deficit do you typically go with?
I don't go too much.
Too much gets too weird.
And then my form gets so much different.
Yeah.
That I've never loved that.
I do like an inch and a half.
Okay.
Or an inch would be fine too.
So you're saying, you're saying my Titan tiles would be just fine.
Yeah.
Because how tall are those?
inch and a half.
Yeah, and I usually do two, three quarter inch stacked on top of each other of plywood.
So I'm usually inch and a half.
I don't mind an inch, though, either is a good.
But I don't like to go like, I don't want to do a three inch deficit dead left
because it gets to be where I'm like, what is, you know,
this is an exercise in figuring out a position to get into.
Right.
That's just my philosophy.
But it is, though.
There's, yeah, and it is a new,
and there's probably carryover on that.
depending on what you want to do.
But that's the way I like to approach those.
And the added twist on that,
since I'm doing some grip stuff,
as I'm doing double overhand.
So, like, I did 405 for my sets of five.
Then I did 415 for my sets of five.
I'll do 425.
And I'm just going to see how long I can go sets of five
with the double overhand.
Is this not an original Texas Power Bar?
No, this is on the deadlift bar.
I don't know why that this time because I'm like,
yeah.
That's basically cheating.
This time I'm doing it on the deadlift bar.
I have no idea why.
I did that.
It was probably what was there the first day I started it.
And I'm like,
no,
I'll just move on that from that.
I don't think.
I don't.
Okay.
I would,
my grip is also terrible.
I've actually,
my left hand always,
always on dead lifts.
Always just starts to slip.
It's,
I mean,
I dropped one in the meat,
almost dropped a second one.
Because it's my left hand.
It's so weak.
I probably actually should be working on that.
And,
where the hell is I going?
Oh,
I know I can get 3-6 on the deadlift bar.
I know,
I can get 365 for a single double overhand.
I don't know if I could get 405.
I'd never try it because I feel like that is where I just wouldn't do it.
But if there is a limit, it's definitely,
it's somewhere between 365 and 405 for me for a single.
And you're just banging these things out like it's nothing.
My, you know, because the, my joke has been the 10 rep double overhand thing.
Right now I'm doing the five.
But I do, this is actually just my own anecdotal thing.
maybe other people would disagree with me.
I think, like, take the grip out of it if you're just deadlifting.
If you can do something for one, you've got to be a lot stronger to do it for five.
Oh, God, yeah.
Yes.
Right?
You know, like, if you can deadlift 405 for one and you just got that, like, it's going to be a while until you can get it for a set of five.
Or never.
Right, right.
On grip, it's a little different to me.
where if I can get it for one,
I can probably get it for several.
Really?
Yeah.
That's kind of the way.
I don't know.
That's just kind of what I felt like I,
like when I can do those for 10,
like if you just took deadlift numbers,
what I could double overhand deadlift for 10,
if that was just your deadlift,
I can't do as much than double overhand for a single as someone could just,
if you took grip out of the equation,
and what you probably equate to their one rep max too.
Right.
Like the grip goes away faster as you move up the weight,
even by decreasing.
Because what did you do for 10?
What was your biggest one?
I think 455 for a set of 10 on the Texas Power Bar.
Because you can do 10, you're not all of a sudden going to be 555 for a single.
Right, right.
That's what I experienced.
Do you do 500 for a single?
Yeah, I've done that before.
I think I've done 510 or 20, something like that.
It's still a lot.
Yeah.
there's not so i'm doing the deficit dead list eventually i'll ditch i'll probably ditch the double
overhand to some extent there the other thing i've been doing well a couple things on the cardio front i'm
like i want my cardio's been lacking because for 18 months i had to you know i had to quit playing basketball
which was my cardio was awesome from that for a period of time and then i was doing some rower and stuff
and i got out of that and i like stupid different dumb little cardio challenges that's uh those are always
fun chasing numbers for me.
And Grant on the OK podcast had talked about the 50 Cal Rower Challenge.
And they had talked about like if you can break four minutes, you know, that shows something.
If you break three minutes, that's a pretty good indicator of cardiovascular.
Then if you can break two minutes, you know, that's booking it or whatever.
So I got to 157 on that.
That was just after a couple tries.
Oh, well, come on.
Right.
That was literally, actually, that was on the first try.
I'm actually, if I speak about the correct.
This is on the row, you said?
No, that's on the echo bike.
If I said row, or I meant, that's the 50-Cal echo bike challenge.
And I got 157 on the first go.
And I think I can get it to like 90 seconds.
I think so.
This challenge is very hard for anyone that wants to try it.
So 157, when that's done, I mean, are you like dead?
Well, I did it.
I'm like, oh, I'm going to do this as my,
because he said four minutes means this,
three, that, two, that.
So I'm like, I'm going to do this as my squat warm up.
Ooh.
And I got going and I'm like, well, I'm easily going to get three minutes.
Like I don't think I'm going to be that tired if I do it.
And I'm like, as long as I'm doing it, I better try and get in under two minutes.
And I got done and I'm like, who squat warm up.
I need a freaking, like it was one minute and 57 second at work.
It took me like 15 minutes until I like did my first squat sets because I was getting that feeling where you're sweating but cold.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
You know, and that was just on that.
So you went into it not trying to go for like a PR.
You were just like, oh, we'll see where this takes me.
Yeah, and then the time was going.
I was like, oh, I'm like, I'm like, I can do this.
You know, so I'm like, well, as long as I'm doing this, I better do it good.
I could see how you get to 90 seconds that if you're going into it untrained on that.
And also with no game plan and you're getting under two minutes.
Yeah.
But do you think, do you think, because it's been a long time so I've used the echo.
Like, I used to use it pretty regularly down at the gym.
And I would just do like intervals.
So I wasn't really paying attention to much.
but with that, do you think being bigger plays into your advantage a lot?
Yes.
Okay.
After doing it one time, I've become an expert, now I have an expert opinion, which is the joke.
But I would say, yeah, like to like not give myself too much credit, yes, being bigger and being being and strong, I think helps more than I even thought it probably did.
Like, yeah.
So you just say that you're on the shorter end, you weigh 150 pounds.
Like that's going to be a much different challenge is what you're kind of saying.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.
Like I don't know.
Like at 150 pounds, you got to be a beast probably to like beat my time.
I would think.
You know, like I'm not saying that as I'm awesome.
I'm saying that like you have just.
If you're not big and throw around.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you got to be in good enough shape to be able to do it for like a couple of minutes sustained.
Uh-huh.
That's where you get, you know, if you're a big tub of crap and you have no cardio viz.
You know, it's only not going to be able to move.
There's probably like a happy medium or like a combination of the two.
But the world record, this one blew my mind because on the rower I was watching world records on things.
You know, and I was doing 100 meter challenges and 5005Ks and all this stuff.
And all the world records kind of made sense to me.
And like on the 100 meter, the world record wasn't that much faster than what I was doing actually.
But the world record on this, you got to watch it is a guy doing it in, I think, in 26 seconds, 50 Cal's.
which does not make sense to me how it's even possible.
So what is the build of this guy?
He was big.
He was a big,
strong, muscular guy.
Like, like six five big we're talking?
I couldn't tell.
Okay.
I don't know,
but I mean,
not under six foot.
Yeah,
yeah,
he was not a small person.
And he's jacked.
So he's got a lot of force
that he's putting behind every.
Yeah.
And this comes from,
I think this is a crossfit thing,
like a 50 cow rower is a common,
maybe,
maybe a common,
CrossFit thing.
But I am going to mess around with that a little bit more.
But that one is really taxing.
50 Cal Echo Bike.
50 Cal for time.
Yeah.
Do I keep saying rower?
Yeah.
Are you said rowing that last time?
I don't know.
On the Echo bike.
On the Echo Bike.
50 Cal Challenge.
Which give that a try.
It's,
if you go hard on that,
it's actually kind of crazy that one minute and 57 seconds or, you know,
if I did it in 90 and just 90 seconds,
how punishing that can be.
It doesn't,
I mean,
You know, it's kind of crazy.
Like any, like, if you sprint, try to sprint for 90 seconds.
Go run a 400 and do it hard.
You're like, oh, it takes a little over a minute and you can feel really sick.
Yeah, right.
And then, well, speaking of that, the other thing I've been doing is running one miles.
Because the first one I did was six runs ago was the first time I've ran, basically, since I had knee surgery.
So it's been 18 months.
And that was just kind of like, I was getting the feeling like, do I even know?
like if I was getting chased by a bear,
could I get,
what would I do?
You know,
like,
am I capable of running anymore?
And I'm like,
I feel like I shouldn't not know if I can,
like,
if I can even run if I need to.
Like,
that's how I'm going to wake up one day and be like,
oh,
I'm old and I actually can't run anymore if I had to.
So I did,
and I,
and just a test for my knee to see like,
what is my knee cool with that or not.
So I did one,
the slow,
the first one,
I did was my slowest.
It was just under 10 minutes of like 9.45.
Which I got done with that.
And I'm like, man, 10 minute mile isn't that slow.
Like I feel like I was running.
I mean, I absolutely was running the entire time.
But it was like 945.
I'm like, damn, that's what I think a slow time is.
And I felt like I was like, I wasn't like doing the lineman jog out there.
I do a 50 cow.
Do you know how fast I do a 50 cow?
So then I kind of was on a thing where I'd do that every.
On my offlifting days, so two or three times a week I've been running this mile.
I've done like six of them now.
So this is also only for a few weeks.
Second one, a little faster.
Third one, I was like broke nine minutes.
And then I was maybe 845, 825, 825, 815.
Then today I was like, yeah, I'm probably like, because of my time's going down and I'm almost feeling better at each one.
Like that I got done with everything or lungs, knee, legs.
My lungs mostly.
my knee's kind of the same where it's like it feels pretty good but it also might be a little sore by the time I'm done or you know it's not like I'm it wasn't it didn't feel like it was going to affect my lifts anymore or anything that it already maybe was so but my lungs would be the thing or my just even breathing like yeah or just maybe it's maybe it's not even my lungs changing that much in that amount of time maybe it's just me getting okay with comfortable with being yeah being like okay no this is I'm not going to suffer
suffocate to death here.
I just,
it's like,
no,
if I just do keep my legs moving at this speed,
it'll all be fine,
and I'm not going to die.
And so,
because you probably can,
I don't know how much you actually train
or your condition yourself in that little bit of time.
But so I was down to 8.15.
I'd get done and be like,
oh,
I'm pretty tired and I'm out of breath.
But what I found is,
we've talked about this thing before,
and I was like,
I'm not all that impressed with.
The coolest thing,
this I like is for running.
Like,
It's the biggest thing once I found all the stuff it shows you because I run on the bike path.
So, and I, and you just click, uh, outdoor run.
And you, you do run for distance in one mile.
So it's going to like count you down to start your mile.
And like it vibrates at like when you're at half or not three quarter.
You can set it do whatever you want.
But so I literally just, I mean, I know my points even with just you do it a few times,
but I just run until I get the half vibration.
then turn it around.
Do a U-turn and go back and I'm like, oh, finish it right at home, you know,
right where I want to be.
And then when you get done, I can look and it shows the exact map path you went
and you can scroll your finger and see what was my pace here,
what was my heart rate here, what was, you know,
and you can go around and be like, oh, I felt like I was kind of going slow there.
And then I look on the map and I'm like, yep, my pace went from 802 to an 840,
like for that tenth of a mile because like I literally was going slower.
And for as little as I care about running,
most of it doesn't matter to me.
But I do just think it was interesting.
It makes running a little more interesting because of the analytics to it.
Yeah, there's some game-fying.
Right.
Right.
So then today I'm like, okay, I'll probably break eight minutes today.
I feel like I'm very, and that was kind of my goal.
And I was thinking, I don't know if I'll keep doing it or because a lot of these things,
I just have a goal.
And when I get to it, I'm like, yeah, I'm good with that now.
I don't need to go, like I'm not trying to go extreme.
I just want to get to a certain number.
I need to stop before this gets too challenging.
Yes, that's actually a good way of describing it.
That's kind of what I'm like.
I want to get to a certain threshold that I'm like, yes, that is acceptable.
I will move on to something else.
But today I was great.
My pace was awesome.
I was feeling the best I had.
And I was right at three quarters of a mile.
and I always run my last quarter,
you know, my best pace is on my last quarter
and I always make up a little time there
because there's just something about seeing the end.
I'm like, oh, I can do anything when it's just right there.
You know, like I can make myself do anything
for that short amount of time.
And I hadn't even picked up the pace yet.
I wasn't slowing down.
I wasn't speeding up.
Nothing was going on at all.
And all of a sudden, my right calf,
I was like, just about like I had a Charlie horse in my calf,
I was like, oh, my God,
I have a like a cramp?
And I'm like, I don't know.
I'm just going to try and keep running.
And I'm like limping, trying to run on my right calf.
And I look down at my thing.
I'm like, oh, I'm at an eight minute pace even at three quarters of a mile.
Like I'm going to run like a 745 and not even be that bad here.
And I've already done the hard work, which is the first three quarters of it.
And I'm like trying to run and looking at it.
I'm like, God, my calf, I don't think I can do it.
And I eventually just had to start walking.
And my cat, I strained it somehow just being out for a jog.
And like, I could barely walk this afternoon.
So is my calf a sole strain?
Your bad leg or your good one?
I don't even know the difference.
You're a less bad one.
Yeah.
So, but so I strained my calf just out for a, you know, three quarters of a mile into it.
And now literally doing nothing, you know, nothing weird.
You're jogging, though.
Like, it's not you're walking, but.
No, I know.
I don't think it's like that insane.
of an injury. It's not like you've been, no, it's not that serious of an injury either.
Well, yeah, yeah. But, like, I don't think it's like that crazy for that to happen.
Like, it's annoying, no doubt, but it is very a note. Like, I'm like, oh, come on. What? Like, I'm getting
hurt out for a jog now. Like, I can't even finish my jog because of a home with your tail between
your leg. That's what I honestly, and, uh, my wife's at home. And she's like, what happened? I was
expecting you like a few minutes ago. And I'm like, ha. I know.
It's another injury.
Yeah.
No, I wasn't frustrated in the sense that it's a serious injury.
I could tell right away, but I'm like,
I literally can't finish this run today.
I had a time I wanted to get.
And now I had to, like, the last thing I want to do is quit on.
Oh, yeah.
Something like that far into it.
You know, I know.
I know.
I'm like, I finish this out.
Get the glory.
Because if I quit once, then it's like it opens the door.
I quit anytime something's on, you know, uncomfortable or whatever.
And I actually,
what I came to is like this might actually injure it more if I keep running on it at this point.
So that's why I eventually stopped.
Because I tried for a while and I'm like, I'm like limping and what am I for an actually,
because I want to get this eight minute under eight minute mile on this.
And I'm like, I'm limping here.
I'm like, no, this is not worth.
My assessment on the spot is it's not worth that.
Yeah.
That's something though that like 10 years ago, you'd be like, no, we're powering through.
Yeah.
And then you'd be like, damn it, I just screwed myself so hard.
Yes.
The one other training thing I did is I'm like, you know what?
I'm actually, I've done front squats and SSBs for so long.
I am really jonesing for doing barbell back squats.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm switching today.
I'm doing that starting now because I'm like, since I'm not training for a specific thing,
I'm going to do whatever movement is exciting to me,
which to me right now is for whatever reason, a high,
and I'm doing all high bar.
I've just had two sessions of that.
And that felt really good.
Did you post one of those the other day or not?
Or am I getting,
I don't know if I posted it,
but I think that was in my SSB.
I did go up to 425 SSB,
and that felt,
and I did like 385 for a set of four,
which that's the most I've squatted
since I hurt my knee is that stuff.
And I thought they looked really good.
Yeah, those were good.
But what I was really stoked about is,
because I was starting to think,
well, maybe I can't even back squat more
than I can SSB.
Maybe it's all the same.
And then just after one day into back squatting,
I was like, oh, no, this.
There's more.
I like this.
Yeah.
I'm like, no, I forgot.
Like, I actually forgot.
And it was weird because it felt, I'm doing high bar and it felt, I guess,
heavy and uncomfortable, like on the on rack and the walkout.
Because I'm not used to it.
I haven't done it for so long.
But each squat, like when I went down and up, I'm like, well, that felt easy.
Oh, isn't that a great feeling too?
Like just the exact squat moment movement.
And I'm like, oh, that's the ticket.
And then, like, I'd go to rack and stuff, be like, ah, it's uncomfortable and heavy.
and hurts my traps and stuff.
But like when I would do the actual rep,
I'd be like, oh yeah, nice, nice.
It was just everything in between that feels weird.
That's like as good as it gets when you're like actually moving squats.
Like, oh, this just feels great right now.
Yeah.
Even on days when squats moving good for me,
I don't think that very often.
But when I do, it's good.
That's a nice feeling.
And it wasn't that heavy.
It was just 325 for sets of five.
Yeah, but still, we haven't been doing it at all.
Right.
Right.
That's good.
Yeah.
Or maybe it's three, I guess it was, I don't know what it was.
It doesn't really matter.
It's 335 for sets of five or something like that.
But it just did feel good that I was like, oh, yeah, sweet.
And then it has me excited for squatting for a while.
I'm just going to linear progress that for a while too and ride that and see how it goes.
I'll get it out.
See where it takes you.
And my knee fails pretty good on the squat, actually.
You know, it's not really like deadlifting and squatting that bothers my knee.
Those are pretty controlled and pretty easy to handle.
Actually, it's other weird stuff.
Yeah.
That's training updates.
Damn.
Who knows what the future holds?
My bench press kind of sucks.
Does it?
I don't know.
It doesn't suck.
It's just really,
it's really stale,
I guess.
My dead left and squat bowl feel pretty good.
My bench press feels very,
very,
like I went through this last 16 weeks
and I got to the end of it.
I'm like,
I'm not any stronger.
I'm like the exact same strength.
And I'm like,
I worked fairly hard at that.
It does suck.
when that happens.
Yeah, so I didn't get weaker.
I just was like,
oh,
my number's like this same.
Yeah.
You know,
I'm like,
but sometimes I'm like,
I don't know if I can,
how I can maximize it at my current body weight.
I know I can bench more.
I think that's the problem though.
Like it's such a little,
like a cop out,
but that was my thought process too.
I'm like,
nope,
just if I'm weighing 215,
this is just about what I got to expect.
Like,
it's stupid,
but the difference between weight,
me weighing 215 and about 224 is a lot.
On bench,
it.
really, I think it matters.
I mean, not a lot of people say that, and I agree with it.
I mean, it hasn't, like, being down weight hasn't affected my squad or deadlift at all.
Those have just kept riding.
But bench all of a sudden just feels like I'm hitting a wall.
Like, it's not.
Yeah.
I think there's ways around it and there's ways to be able to improve it and stuff,
but it's really hard.
Yeah.
With fighting the body weight issue on the bench press.
Yeah, it is.
I'm just wondering if we need another leg extension, though, if I could really push something
leg extension.
It's probably what it is.
I'm telling you, man.
when I get when I start going to bed earlier and eat more and I start hitting those split squats,
that leg extension ain't going to know what hit it by the time I come around for that peak.
When you come down to have a seat and I sit my ass down on that thing.
Buckle in.
It's not.
I like Tom Havlin.
You know, he's in on the jokes.
He always brings up the seat belt down.
Yeah, he loves that seat belt.
Him joking around on that is the thing I absolutely.
didn't have on my bingo card for 2026 that I love the most.
Is Tom Havlin being in on the leg extension, Tom Foolery?
Never in a million years would you think that he would have any comments on that, you know?
Which it is the funniest.
It couldn't be anyone funnier to be joking around about it because maybe we talked about this last week.
But the dude is like one of the strongest men in the world, if not at maybe in some ways, arguably.
Yeah.
And does the most insane.
lifts of all varieties.
So for him to be like, yeah, like, it's like, yeah, of course, like, extension is not that
important.
You know, like, look at this dude.
He's also built like an absolute shit brick house, too.
I mean, his physique is crazy.
It's not like he's just huge.
He does a physique, too.
And I bet his legs aren't small.
Oh, no.
I know what that guy can search your squad and it's scary.
but for him to also kind of joke about the leg
I just it's so funny every time I see it I'm like this is the coolest
funniest thing well and to sort of add to that
the other one that was really good was Stan Effordine had a video
yesterday of him just wrapping out the full stack
on leg extensions yeah
I like too because that that I think was
he took a thing of someone criticizing him in a post
that says oh look how much muscle he's lost
and he was like, I'm 60 or whatever.
That's crazy that he's 60 though.
Like, yeah.
When he put them like, no, Stan's like 48, right?
Like, just in my mind, like, I'm like,
I know he's a little older, but that's just permanently my mind.
That's how old Stan is, not 60.
And when you put in that perspective, I'm like,
oh, this guy's like the most jacked 60-year-old that you'd ever see.
Yeah.
Some couch tater is Reagan on Stan from the comment section for not being as big
he used to be when he's a 60-year-old guy.
Right, yeah, like he's 60 and he's weighed 285 his entire life.
Okay, so Stan is doing, you know how we used to do back in the day, his YouTube videos
where he's in the car, what were those called?
Like Stan's Rants or that's not right, but.
Was it Rhinos Rants?
Is that what it was?
That's what it was, right?
I think so.
Something like that.
And people were, everyone was watching those, like kind of like everyone would watch them.
Yeah, Rhinel's Rants, yes.
And he sort of, uh,
parlayed that into his promotion of the coolers.
And everything else.
The world's only cooler within a cooler.
The vertical diet.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah,
the vertical diet.
Yes,
yes.
That was his marketing campaign around those.
And he's doing it again,
because now he lives in like Samoa,
American Samoa or what.
And he does it in his golf cart.
Yes.
And I'm like,
everyone says it too if you read the comments.
But I'm serious like,
what?
where is the teleprompter?
No, he has...
What's he doing?
He just has an AirPod in one ear.
Oh, is that what it is?
That's what I always thought it was.
I'm pretty sure.
What is it doing?
Telling him just like a split second ahead or what?
Yeah, I think he's just reciting.
I think he just does a long script.
I think this has always been the thing.
He does a long script and he's just like repeating it back that...
But when you do that, how far ahead of it?
Like, when just trailer right behind.
Because it would still be talking, like he's got to be talking while it's saying something.
Yeah.
Yeah. But I mean, if he actually took the time to write this whole thing, it's like whenever you actually, you know, before chat GPT days, when you actually spent time crafting writing something, you're the subject matter expert. You kind of remember a lot of it.
You got half memorized anyway. So then you just need a few cues. Because there was a few rhinos rants. I think I read in the comments. Someone's like, oh, he's totally doing it. You can, I think even one time someone was like, you can actually hear the earpiece going, which I never paid that close of attention. But there are a few times where you would notice in those where he would get tripped up on his words.
and all of a sudden it's like his cadence would break a little bit
and then you could tell he got caught back up
and then he's back in the cadence again.
That was...
Maybe you told me that before and I've forgotten about it.
Because he also always had it time to perfection
with when he got home to or whatever he was doing.
And I'm like, okay, like you know you're going to do this 20 minute rant
that just perfectly wraps up with this whole thing.
And I'm not knocking him for it.
I think that's...
I don't know if I could do that though.
I don't...
That's a little distracting.
Like, I don't...
But I think it's what you're saying.
actually though he's written this edited it perfected it maybe even rehearsed it once and is like he
has three quarters of it memorized that anyway unless he's probably naturally good at that to begin
with yeah unless in this one he actually turns his head where you can see but that was sort of always my
assumption because the one in the car was always to the side you could never see the front of his face
and so you just never knew i just always assumed he had an earpiece or an airpot or something in the far ear
okay yep that's that's got to be it otherwise he's an absolute freak
of nature that I don't even understand what like what are you doing this delivery for like
impromptu speaking like that it would be absolutely insane to be able to deliver that that I'm not saying
like you can't speak eloquently but just the it's just I think the delivery of how you're
it's just a weird way to talk it would be crazy to be able to talk like that and not be like
because it's not like you're being like it's just too on it's just
just too on a pace.
You know,
it's not,
it's not doing the thing
where even when people
that are really good,
like speakers with a lot of,
you know,
personality and persona and all this,
even they,
they have like some changes in tempo
and pacing and some breaks.
Yeah,
and it never changes.
These don't do that.
That would be indicative of if you're listening
to something like that.
That's what I feel like, yeah.
Like anyone else,
like,
I mean,
that's kind of one of the things of like speaking good is like,
oh,
if we're in a crowd,
like put a pause in here for dramatic effect.
And,
you know,
like really let people sit,
with that for a minute.
And I don't think these typically do that.
It's like, you're on the train and the train's going here.
We're staying at our 180 BPM, you know?
Yeah.
It's one of those, what's that?
What's that?
The music, the 180.
Yeah, but what kind of music?
Yeah, what kind of constant of those you go to?
The techno or the, yeah.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
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The Kev Cave?
Yeah, that was the most recent video, yes.
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