Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 529: What Percentage of Lifters Actually Have Home Gyms?

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

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Social media, website, everything. Massonomics. What's up, everyone? Episode 529 of the Massonomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from the corners of the Dakotas, at least two of the four, that's 50%. It's like I always say, two out of three ain't bad. My name's Tanner.

That's also a thing that I say once a week. And my name is Tommy. Episode 529, episode 29 of Season 2 of the Massonomics podcast, and it is going to be a Q&A episode. You have submitted your questions to us. By looking at them here briefly, I'm not sure that we're going to get to all of them. They have not been pre-vetted.

So we may- Have anyone screened in these things? Yeah, so we may just ditch some that aren't good. When we get to the seventh F-Mary-K question, we'll ditch that. We're going to get rid of the 19th FMK question in the Q-O-D-A. We'll do 18, although we draw the line at doing 19. You know,

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Thank you, Strength Co. Tommy, are you still an enthusiast this week or what's your enthusiast status? You haven't been stripped of your enthusiast badge? I don't know if I have any. me to just be an enthusiast in and out like that's a different breed of person and I'm pretty I'm pretty weak-spirited weak-willed over here and if there's one thing I can't do it's just keep the momentum up so I'm probably not really a true enthusiast. You're not cut out for the enthusiast. I'm probably not actually cut out for that world. I just I only lift and make

podcasts and do YouTube videos weekly and make merchandise and that's I don't I'm not an enthusiast. You mean like constantly basically? Yeah I I mean, yeah, I just, for like 12 years, nonstop every single week. Yeah. I mean, I only do those things. I'm not really an enthusiastic. And like we, you know, we have multi-hour long conversations about that stuff every single day. Yeah. But besides that, I'm not.

And like how we can build the community around it. Yeah. And yeah, but besides that, though, you know. Right. And, and also, yeah, like, there's this Jim Radar thing, but not counting that either. And like, not. Okay. So we were just in Chicago and Wisconsin for two days and did 10 home gym tours.

Not counting that either. Not counting that. Right. And like, okay. Okay. There's also like this power lifting strong man meat thing. We're not counting that either. That doesn't count.

And we're like 175 competitors are all coming here. Come from like 40 different states in multiple countries. Yes. We're not counting that either. That doesn't count either. Right. We also are, oh yeah, we got a home gym con booth two weeks after that. We're not going to count that either.

That does not count for enthusiasm. Right. One of us may or may not even compete in that meet, but that also does not count for enthusiasm in any way. I think we also have some plans for potentially some equipment reviews coming up to mix in with our existing gym tours. But we're not going to count either. That won't count either. So if you don't count any of those things, which you shouldn't, then yeah, we're not that enthusiastic. Well, there's also like a new completely additional YouTube video on the gym radar page that we're posting.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we actually added one more weekly video. Yes, we added an interview video. Yes, because doing one, two videos on YouTube a week wasn't enough. We do three. But yeah, we're not going to count three videos on YouTube a week either. That doesn't, in addition to a two-hour podcast. We're not going to count that.

Right. And also, yeah, we do work. Okay, we work regular jobs too besides doing all that stuff. So that pretty much throws us out of immediately then. Yeah, yeah, like, because we're not that. We're not hard enough into it to just do just this. But so, yeah, we do other things too. Well, and it's probably not even worth mentioning,

but there is also the 7,000 plus posts on Instagram, you know, two a day. Well, yeah, we don't count two posts a day on Instagram. That doesn't count either. That's not enthusiastic either. No, no, we don't count that. That doesn't count. Okay. Well, with that out of the...

Once you get all that out of the way, it's pretty easy to see that we're not enthusiasts about any of this. Like, we're not really that in terms at all. Right. If you don't, you know, like all that stuff aside, Yeah. What are, you take all that away. What are we? I don't, you know, like I guess they do nothing.

If you just, you look past that, you realize there's nothing else there. Yes. The line in the sand to become a supporting member is today. So actually, if you're a live listener, you're already a supporting member. This is irrelevant. So this,

what the sentences I'm saying just don't make any sense to anyone at this point. Because as this comes out when it's released to the public as the recording, it's already too late. So you missed out. You didn't become a supporting member fast enough. But you could still sign up and that way you're a supporting member for the next group.

Because this isn't even the only thing. Now is the safest time to sign up because you're just ahead of the game for the next time. Right. So a lot of people actually do that. They realize they've made a fatal mistake. They try to write their wrongs

by just signing up right now. Then they don't have to work. They just set it and forget it is what it is. Yeah. So what that means is that, that the wheels in motion of the crew gift are are in motion. They are turning and it will be some amount of time here and then they'll go out.

So it just depends on the labor force of how fast we can get a whole bunch of these. You know, labor. We have all the stuff. Just need to make it happen now at this point. A lot of stuff that has to get put together. Got all the ad. addresses and all the people.

So that will be coming here at some point in time, though. And then the Lift Hard Live Easy Class, classic virtual meet. The deadline we put out that is May 23rd. So if you're listening live, you could still get signed up for that. So that's this weekend. You know, if you're listening after this is published, you're actually too late. We close the sign up period unless we left it open for like an extra day or two.

I don't know. I don't know if we can do that or not. We'd have to ask our bosses if that's even something that could happen. But there is like 165 people signed up right now, which is pretty cool. It'd be great if it could somehow get to 200. I don't know that that's possible, but it doesn't also mean anything other than it's fun to get there. I thought 100 was just not even possible when we did this, but here we are. We're at almost as many people as are coming to lift in person.

Actually, that's pretty crazy to think about. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So if you, you know, we've talked about this several weeks, but you pay 50 bucks, which gets you the event shirt and the event magnet, and then you get to submit your lifts to us. The submission period is between July 6th, July 12th. It's a squat bench deadlift. We pool your total, and then we're giving away a bunch of Massonomics gift cards and that sort of thing that is not determined necessarily on performance.

You have to submit a performance, and then that gets you in the drawing to win something. Okay. Is that enough announcements for now? Probably. Okay. What about the new drop? Do we want to talk about the new drop right now? Oh, just wait. Just wait. Whoa. Whoa.

Did you forget to hit my board? No, my board, it's not happy with me. Oh. Well, you don't like, that's not what you want to see. I mean, we're good because it's recorded through other stuff, other means, but. must be a loose connection. Well, you know, you do this long enough. You're bound to get something new to happen.

Is it shut off? No, it's just saying there's an error. It's encountered an error. And then, which I've never seen it say before. Kind of crazy out of all the places we've taken this. It's never. Yeah. Do you need to reboot it at all or anything?

I had to reformat the cards. So I guess the first, we're just going to run with this. Technical difficulties, but we should be fine. I mean, we'll have the audio. Just the up until right now the audio might put, potentially sound a little different or it will for sure if you had to format it like that won't be there right um yeah but it'll have the you um i'll have it on your end right right so what the audio the audio now sounds better all the sudden it should hopefully sound a little better actually maybe

it just sounds great the whole time who knows yeah okay should we do some q and a and yes that's wow we're actually hopping right into this right now yeah got a lot of their stuff i got sack segments and all kinds of things. But let's just get to it. Let's quit beating around the bush and get to a couple questions. Oh, there's a do. There's a lot of them here. Okay. From Big Keith, least fun, most fun, living in South Dakota. Ah, this is tricky now. It's a good question. That is actually good question. Where I said this gets tricky is I feel like maybe, I don't know if my perspective on this changes as I get older, you know, if my answers are different now than they would be 10 years ago. I don't know. Maybe the least.

it's kind of what makes it South Dakota, but maybe the least fun is how kind of isolated you can be from the rest of the world. That's for sure what some people would say. You know, that's why people don't live here. Right. Well,

and that's also why some people do live here. I know. That's what I was going to say. That's kind of like why I like living here. But I know that that's a majority of people would say that's why they wouldn't live here because they don't like that. And that's where I'm like, well,

it's what actually makes this really, you just get so used to just everything is three to seven, nine, 10, 12 hours away that when you, when we get out east and it's like, oh, there's a major city like every hour.

You know, like the far as you get out, it's just like, yeah, they're all like an hour away from each other. Everything. It's like even, you know,

just the trip we did. Even once you get to like Michigan, Ohio and. Oh, yeah, once you're over there. Yeah. Chicago to Detroit was like four or five hours.

Oh, they're all right next to each other. Chicago to Madison was like, it feels like, two hours. It's like this is nothing. This is, like, you and I live three hours apart, and that doesn't feel that far. And like, here it's like actual major cities are just like right down the road from each other.

So I don't know. Like that can be an annoying part depending on how you live your life and what you have going on. But most fun, I don't know if you had to say like really big grand things, like really big high level things. Maybe the most fun about South Dakota. One of the most fun things is you kind of know someone everywhere you go. Like it's just the way. Like, yeah, I always know someone. Like, and some people hate that part of it.

But, yeah. I mean, I can pull into Aberdeen and I can almost guarantee you the first gas station I go in. I will know at least one person in there, maybe multiple people. I mean, that's not even saying like the bars. Like if you go to any bar, I'm going to know 15 to 20, 30 people in it. Same thing here in town, though. It's very rare for me to leave the house, go to a place and just not randomly run into someone. And this is a city of 200,000 people, you know?

Yeah. So like South Dakota, it's small in that way. And that can make it fun. I don't know. summer in South Dakota is pretty nice. Like summer's cool. Especially if you live in a city that has a lake nearby. Oh, like Midwest Lake days are really tough to beat.

I don't know. I said a lot of things there, I guess. That all checks out, I think. I'll just say the least fun to me is the harshest part of winter. If I could just go away, I'd be totally, I like the four seasons. I do too. I like four seasons too. But I could just, the least fun is the harshest part of every winter where it's like,

there's about two weeks. Uninhabitable. I'm like, yeah, that's why the, that's a huge reason why people also don't live here because it is, it's kind of insane, like how cold and miserable it is for a period of time. Like you might go two weeks without,

two plus weeks without seeing the sun or temperatures about zero. And you're like, oh no, like I haven't been able to leave the house because it's dangerous, it's too dangerous to go outside to do anything. That to me, I think, is the least fun. Like every, during that week or two, every year when it's because we always get it.

It comes eventually. And every time I'm like, yeah, this is why people don't live here. Because like that happened once and they're like, yep, we're going to keep going. We're not stopping here. It is. Yeah, that part sucks. That part's rough. Okay.

What's next for Jim Radar if you can give anything away? Well, we talked about that in the pre-show, actually. Can let's see. Well, so this will come out. This week. There's something big coming out, actually. Yes, actually. We'll have a formal announcement of it just within a couple days from this episode coming out.

Yeah, so this episode comes out on like Monday-ish, either Tuesday or Wednesday. There will be our biggest feature release on Jim Radar since we have released the site. So if you're a Jim Radar user, make sure you're getting on there Tuesday, Wednesday. It'll be obvious. Right. What's going on if you're a user. If you get on there and you're like, oh, nothing's changed. Well, then it hasn't happened yet.

So just stay tuned. it will be there. If you're not a Jim Radar user, man, this is a great time to get in on the action because there's a lot, going to be a lot happening. Yeah. And we'll talk about that probably quite a bit next week.

Actually, yes, we will. Yep. So what, we do have a drop this, by the time this comes out, it already dropped. And you're wearing something over there, aren't you? Oh, we'll get to this one later. Okay.

You want me grab the other ones? I think so. We got a few live listeners that are going to get a sneak peek. Everyone that's a live listener, just keep it to ourselves. You know, nothing from the pre-show exits the pre-show, also the live recording. Don't let anyone in on what they're missing here by not coming to the live recording. Okay. So back, I actually shouldn't even really say back by popular demand because this is new, but we haven't had this item in many, many years.

Do we remember the last time we had this item? I think it's been two or three. I think it's probably been three seasons. So I'm thinking 2023 or 22 maybe. That sounds about right. I think the last time might have been when we took pictures in my backyard with like your brother. Was that? There might have been one more year after that.

Maybe one more. But yeah, I do remember that was that was that one year after that. And there's like a picture of you with my dog. Yeah. And Ryan's back. I'm like, my dog looks many years younger.

Anthony might have been the following year. Yeah, that was the kind of fit kind of fat tank. Yeah, that was the kind of, I think that was the last one we ever did. So what we are getting at is tank top season is back, baby. And here we go.

I'm going to hold up with a camera here. Back with a vengeance. Back and better than ever. Tommy's holding up the Massonomics lifting department tank. These are comfort color tanks, and they're nice. These are really nice. This is probably the best fitting tank for me, at least, that we've ever had. So that's one.

We have a lifting department tank, and we also have a silly goose barbell club tank. I'm going to hold it up now. So the lifting department was like ice blue or some kind of blue. I can't remember the name. And the lifting department is, what's that one called? Or the silly goose one. Yeah, it's kind of like, I don't know what the color is. It's kind of like a sea foam green sort of.

Yeah, that's what it's called. Is it C foam? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they both look really good. I think they're a good summary, good summary colors. And I tried both these on for the first time today. And actually, Big Brandon's asking, are the company color tank oversized?

I'd say they fit very, to me, they fit very similar to the T's as far as length goes. I don't know, maybe the body's a little more boxy too. It's hard to say when there's no sleeves and stuff too. Yeah, it is. I mean, it's not,

where I haven't, like the tanks in the past is there maybe a touch short and like a touch skinny or slim through the body. These are just a more relaxed fit to me. Yeah. You know, these are an extra large. I guess if you like your tanks more fitted,

you could size down. But I figured by the time I wash these, they're going to be about perfect. And Big Matt in the hat wants to know if they could get them with the sleeves cut off. And yes, for an extra charge, we would custom cut the sleeves off of the tank tops for everyone. Yes. That can be managed. Yes.

Yes, it is comfort colors. Dakota cut. Yeah, that's one sleeve cut off. Which, when we were with Finn and Karen, we talked about the Dakota cut. We were requesting live Dakota cuts. Yeah. There is a sign. Should I hold it up?

I got the sign. Okay, this is, this is really good. So you have the sign with you? Well, no, I have a photo. I've got a sign. Oh, you actually have, oh. Oh, yeah, I suppose, yes. I mean, I've got a whole bunch of them.

Yeah, they just got done. So mine hasn't arrived at the mail yet. But we figured it had been a long time since we'd released any wall decor that wasn't a flag or a banner. And we really liked, we always really liked the caution drink spotter sign. You had to been around a long time to know what that was. That was like in 2021. or something. We always really like that sign. We wanted something a little smaller. It's like a polymetal sign. Yeah, it's really nice, really good quality. Very, very nice.

Like, you will not be disappointed in the quality for sure. But what the heck's on this thing? This is the official enthusiast leg extension sign. It says, if your lades ain't extending, then you're just pretending. And we have the official sign to show it off. It also has some little subtext on it saying if I can't sit on my ass I'm going to pass and if it's seated it's undefeated and this sign measures 10 inches wide by 14 tall it looks good man that's a sweet sign my head for reference yeah and it is and it's like a what is it like an eighth inch thick metal yeah maybe can you see the profile does that come across the video of an inch maybe yeah it's uh I got a ruler right here let's let's put this to bed finally

Finally, how thick is this sign? We don't want people running around accusing us of not being signed thickness enthusiasts. I'd give it a, it's an eighth. Eighth of an inch, all right. Yeah. Yeah, it's a solid eighth. Yeah, it's actually, I don't want to go on record as a solid eight. It's approximately an eighth.

Three-sixteenths are better. Must be metric. But the sign is sweet. It's, you know, I don't know, with everything going on, you know, with felt loads and leg extensions. If it's not 11 gauge, home gym discord just can. Exactly. This lets people know what side of the fence you're on on the debate as far as how leg extensions and seated exercises work. So display these things probably in your gym.

I've got mine hanging behind the leg extension leg curl already. You know, there's going to be someone that walks in the gym someday is like, what the hell is this about? Big Alex wants to know if it's dishwasher safe. Classic Masonomics, deep cut reference. I would say absolutely yes, you could dishwasher it. I don't think it's going to hurt. You can't hurt this thing. And then what's the final?

The cherry on top. The final piece. Also after what, two years now roughly? Yeah, I think two years. We have the sequel, Part 2 of the unpaid and underrated t-shirt. I'm wearing it right now, designed by none other. And do we want to give the, do we want to give the, I think we can give the details.

It's safe to do that. Yeah, I think we can. Designed by none other than Big Joey's wife. So this is imported from our neighbors to the south in Canada. She's made this beautiful, you and you monogram, hand lettering. We got some, like a flowery, flourish design. There's some really cool lettering around it. And then that's the front center chest.

And then the back, oh, I'm, I'm talking to the YouTube camera. People on the other camera aren't seeing me. And then on the back we have, this is really tricky to talk and also show off the back of this, but it has the full. Tanner, do you want to give the breakdown here?

Yeah. Yeah, it's got the full design. And then it's a little hard to tell maybe on video. On the YouTube video, you should see it. It's unpaid underrated by crew, four crew, hunk, honk, honk. And then it's got the location of everyone that everyone was from that's been a guest on the podcast. podcast, I think, is what all the locations are.

So it's got the Canada locations, all the U.S. locations, and then a couple of other international ones on there. Kind of a la the concert tea almost. Yeah, it kind of has that festival concerti vibe to it. It turned out really good. It looks really, really good. I really like it. Big Jeff said this is a side of Tommy.

I haven't seen. Very true. Yeah. Yeah. 70s-esque, Big G said. Yeah, color-wise, what color do you call that printing on the front? It's sort of a teal. And then the back has like a blueish, so there's like a blue and teal.

Yeah, and this is on a comfort colors. Black comfort colors blank here. Yes. And this is limited edition on unpaid and underrated, of course, collaboration with our Bridie Little Sister podcast. What else about it? Anything? Look sweet.

Grab one while you can. I don't want to be on the wrong side of him. history there. Yeah. All right. Okay. Question time. Actually, you know what?

I'm really thirsty. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is a sack segment then also. Oh, yes, it is. Yes. Do you have a note over there? I've got a note. I don't know if yours.

Yeah, I had a note. I misplaced that. Big Tanner, if the legs ain't extended from none other than Big Jeff, he turns out he was out after his thing. Mm-hmm. Yes. And what do you got over there?

I have duff a la orange sparkling beverage. Yeah, it looks like the duff beer from the Simpsons. Did you have the same flavor? Yeah, a lot. Yes. All right, I'm looking. There is sugar in this sucker. Oh, I'm going to have to mark this in the macro factor.

Wow. I mean, it's only 20 calories, but yeah, that thing's got a punch compared to drinking sparkling water, you know? Yeah, holy cow. This really tickles the old sweet tooth. It kind of just reminds me of just drinking like a, like a sunkiss or what orange crush or whatever. It's got that same, which it's pretty damn good, actually.

It's been a long time so I had one of those. It is. It is tasty. She's a tasty unit. Did you get any stickers with yours at all? I did. What did I was already putting mine up in the gym. What is it?

It's me. God, I'm blinking. What's the one of you? So is there one of you? Yeah, it's a Simpsons one of me. Because mine's of me, so I don't think I got any of you. So you should save me one of the ones. Jeff, remind me.

Oh, yeah, the chalk. The chalk. Covered in chalk. That's what it was, yes. My note was also about the chalk, too. You should save one for me to put on the. Yes, I will. I haven't sitting right in my sticker pile right here.

That's I just can't. Yes. I'm glad Jeff was remembering because apparently my brain's broken. No, this is not an alcoholic. Right? I believe it's not alcoholic. If it is, otherwise we're going to be in for a wild ride tonight. Be like Huck Finn, one beer deep.

Max. This is from Big Andrew. What was the biggest change in your life that made training difficult? For example, marriage, kid, kids. the biggest change that so what was the most dramatic change that made training difficult uh for me for me it was moving and kids those two combined because you kind of did it at the same time i mean kind of yeah like my boy was what two or three and like it was still i mean it's more challenging when you have a kid but it gets a lot more challenging when you have two kids and then

we lived in a different town and the gym was much farther away than in aberdeen when it's like minutes away at any given time. And my wife's schedule also changed during that time too. So that made things a little more difficult. So yeah, for me it was moving and kids. And that's where the home gym came from. Yeah, I would say kids, plural. I don't know which kid exactly in the order of kids,

but not when I had one. It wasn't that. It was still getting married. No, that didn't make training more difficult. having one kid, I would say even know, not that big of a deal. Somewhere along the line, I wouldn't even say it was the fourth one necessarily. At a certain point, I'm like, now we're going to get the system figured out. You can throw eight kids on and I'm, you know, like the system is the system.

It scales. The scales really good. Yeah, it scales. But somewhere around like, I'd say second or third kid was like, oh, yeah. And like for a while, I was training super early in the mornings and stuff like that. So that made training difficult because I don't prefer to train at 5 a.m. Although I can. it's just not preferable. And I'm speaking for Tanner here.

I'm speaking for myself. I think I'm also speaking for Tanner. He can tell me if I'm wrong. But when we say making training difficult, the desire never changed in any way. Right. It was purely a scheduling conflict as all it introduced was a scheduling conflict. What actually, I guess the biggest change in my life that makes my training

the most difficult in a different way is every time I, you know, tear something or whatever that. Knee surgeries seem to have a lasting impact. Those make training absolutely freaking terrible. Oh, I got, okay, just one thing on training. This just made me think of this. You know, the other day I was saying how my wife was talking crap about my home gym that I'm not going crazy enough.

She's like, oh, this tiny little barely a home gym over here. Yeah, you pathetic loser, or even an enthusiast. She's just rubbing my face in it, you know. I'm like, how do you know these words? You're not even an enthusiast. Yeah. God, you're just evil. So yesterday I had an RP 10 day for deadlift and it was like,

I think all-time PR deadlift. I was doing a set of 45. And I'm like, you know, I'm like pulling out every hype trick in the book to get going for this, you know. So wait, this is your deadlift set that you just, yeah, where you did like, I did 45 for a triple. How much was it? 485 for a triple.

Oh yeah, yeah, four. I thought you said four. I was like, I thought it was almost 500. Yeah, it was 485. 45 for a triple. Yes. And I. Which do you think that's the most you've ever done for three?

That's what I can't. It has to be up. Do you think you've ever done $4.95 for three? If I did, it was like one time. And I don't know. It might have been for a, that's what I didn't keep the best track of all PRs back in the kind of Jackals days of that. Like it's for sure a juggernaut PR.

I've maybe done like 505 for a double and it's the whole thing of like, well, what's better? Right. But I think as far as triples go, I think this is my heaviest triple. I think. Yeah. And it felt really good. It moved really good.

But, I mean, it was like, I'm like getting hyped up as much as I can. You know, I'm just, I'm like having to do everything, you know, really dial it in. And I got the music going. I got the garage doors open. I got the music going loud. Yeah. I'm like getting to. Like some grunts going, really get myself going.

And all of a sudden I got the horse stalemone out. And I'm just like, and I'm like in the moment. I'm just about to approach the bar. My wife opens the door. And she's like, oh my God, what's going on out here? She never, not now. I'm like, stop. I'm about to do this.

That's all I can say. And I have to kind of get hyped up a little more. I do the set. I do my three. They move good and I walk away. And she's like, I don't know what I just watched. But if anyone walked by, they'd be like, you are insane. And I'm like, well, that's just, I got to do that once in a while.

It's there once in a while, you know. Yeah. You got to go to war. You told her, listen, if I can't get it up for this one set, you might as well come out here and start throwing the dirt bucket. it on me now. That's, I mean, there's no true words on that right there. That was a good set. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, it was,

it was good. So we'll just see if we can keep this, keep this moment. What was your squat set for the week then, 4.55? Um, I think I've actually. Isn't it 4.55 for a set of five or? I'm already forgetting. Um, I think that's what it was. I shared that one on the main page. I think, I think it was, uh, 455.

for a set of five, wasn't it? Yeah, four, yeah, 455 for five, yes. Actually, that moved really, that's, that, um, there is nothing that gives you the do or die feeling more than squats alone in your garage gym. I mean, even with the safety set, you know, like bench, you know, they're there, save you, deadlift you, just let go. Uh, but nothing gives you that, nothing gives me amped up more than the squat day.

And nothing gets the anxiety and the nerves going more than that alone squad day. I still have not missed one yet, but man, when that was going, like, It really is the do or die, flight or flight. Like, it's there. And yeah, I hit that one and it moved. Well, I didn't even, but like there was never like watching it. No. Well, that's what I don't want to get myself the mental out, but I do tell myself like,

if this isn't moving good, you can just rack it and just count the RP where it's at. Right. And it's the one in my head. Well, that was a nine. Yeah. And it's one where I get to my head, I'd do four. It's like, I just think like, nope, there's no way I'm not getting five. Like if I don't get this, like, yep, just let it take me down.

But I'm getting this. And like I got the fifth one, it felt great. And I'm thinking, all right, Scott's going pretty good too right now. Yeah, it's going really. And your bench was 315 for four or something? I already forgot four or five. It was 315 for,

this just turned into a training. But it looked easy. Whatever I love it looked easy. Bench has been not, I was definitely moving better than it's kind of stalled out for a few weeks. And it's just looked really good. Yeah, it did.

That was like my first good day in a while. Actually, that whole week of training went good because I put myself to bed before 11 o'clock. And I was getting mostly eight straight uninterrupted hours of sleep. So like if I can do that, man, it's like you've got superpowers. And I just need to do that more. A little training update. Yeah. Out of nowhere.

I've got a squat thing. If we have time later, we'll come back to it. Remind me if I say, oh, what was that thing? I want to know it. It's a squat thing. But yeah, your training looked really good, though. Yeah. block. Here we go.

Will you, this is from Dr. STD-74. Will you consider adding a Highland Games component to the Lift Hard the VZ5? Keep adding levels to this. I would say never, say never, but to be honest, it's really hard to do what we are doing currently and adding a whole other competition to it is not on my radar. I would, in a perfect world, yes. Yeah. I would say yes.

there's nothing but time and resources available. Like, yeah, there's no reason it shouldn't be a part of it. It would be great. But yes. Big Tyler Thompson, Mount Rushmore of old school world strongest man, strongman events. So old school world strongest man events. I would say the car flip because of the sheer danger of it. Yeah, bending that pipe on your head.

Oh, classic from the 70s one. Sumo wrestling. Well, the refruit. refrigerator, you know, refrigerator, uh, the,

the, uh, rebar bend, the car flip and and, uh, super wrestling. Actually,

uh, the hang, just the, the hang for time over a body of water. Yeah. Yeah. Or there's one where they do a front hold

with like salamis all hanging from this bar. Yeah. Like I remember. that one. It's just one year and it was like had something to do with the location that they were at, but. It was too good. Too good to bring it back. Sumo wrestling

in there. Okay. From Colonel Barbell Club, Mount Rushmore of seated lifts. Obviously leg extension is George Washington. I'm going to throw seated leg curls on there because it's the same machine.

Are we going to count that as one or two different? Because I think it's two. Okay. Yeah, I think it's because he said the lifts, not machines. Okay. Right. I think the seated leg curl.

Peck deck would be on there for me. Asked about upper body item. God, there's just nothing that builds the upper body

like a peck deck, right? Yeah. And then for a fourth, I don't know. I could see the yes, no machine or

that is a good one. Or the ab crunch or like maybe the rotary torso one where you go like this. That's pretty good too. Yeah.

Isn't there Isn't there, like, doesn't Sybex make a seat? Oh, the four-way neck machine. There you go. Yeah, the four-way neck machine. I like that one. Oh, man. Someone, talk about dream home gym builds right there.

Yeah. Someone had, didn't someone have the neck machine in their home gym that we just toured? Did Finn have one? I think Huck Finn had one in his barn, didn't he? I'm trying to remember. I'm pretty sure he did. Why that machine.

We didn't really analyze his machines as closely as we do in some tours. No. No. The front of neck machine. Actually, yes. Almost big Jared in the discord. He said the salami hold was the one that got Kaz mad at Webster. That's right.

I've used that in a meme before because I'm like, that's where you're wrong, Webster. And like I did like when Webster dictionary. Yeah, yeah. Because he's mad at a salmany hold. Because I'm pretty sure he, they judged Kaz that his arms were going down. They went down too far and they,

they cut his time. Uh-huh. And then he, you know, Cas wasn't happy about it from, Big Justin, what is the next big purchase for Massonomics gym and for Tommy's home gym? A purchase-wise. It's funny. I've actually been, you know, spending some time on Jim Radar like any real enthusiast does.

Checking out some smaller pieces. There's definitely been some smaller pieces I've been putting on my wish list. You got something on pre-order that's going to revolutionize your gym. Yes. I do got something on pre-order that's pretty big. that will be that will be quite an addition to the gym um i wouldn't see the problem is is i'm somewhat space limited i wouldn't mind adding in some other type of leg accessory machine um you know maybe something like a squat max md or something just to try it out you know uh ideally if

uh use zone would pop up just down the road at an incredible price and i just can't afford to not go and get it doesn't really happen with those machines so i don't know i'm not for sure i don't have anything i don't have anything major on my purchase list at the moment i'd say the thing you have about that's on pre-order is big that is big yeah it will unlock some options that i don't have right now like that would so stay tuned for that one massanomics gym there's always stuff like uh i don't even know i buy so much stuff for the for that gym it's hard to even keep track to be honest like that's kind of the way that that goes. And the big thing would be, if we're just saying wish lists,

it's potentially a little bit of an expansion pack. And I won't say too much about that yet. But if something was to change, it would be getting a little bit more square footage, which would unlock all kinds of possibilities. Hell yeah. Not saying that that's happening next month, but we've been doing some talking about it.

I'll just say that. Okay. So there's some options there, in which case, I won't even talk about what we're, that's too speculative at this point. I don't, I want to save that.

You can build out a third and fourth dumbbell rack. More seated machines than the eyes could, than you could ever comprehend. Yes. Oh, we did, Antony called out, we did get a lot of new lockers in the entryway. There's like,

there's several banks of lockers now. So like, more of lockers than we have. Within a month or two ago, I would say. I don't think they were there yet when you were there. I was going to say unless I overlooked them completely. I don't think they were there.

Yeah. This one's so. Oh, yeah. What's the deal with the glass on the door? Oh, yeah. Who said that? Yeah. I said new glass for the front door.

Yeah, I wanted to ask you about this. Yeah. So this was Saturday night this week. I was sitting at home, mine in my own business, just about ready to probably go to bed, actually. And I got a message from one of the gym members, and it was a video of the front door, the salon door, glass door completely shattered, like every square inch of,

The spider crack things of... Oh, I mean, yeah, even worse than that. Was there like, actually? Yeah, so I got there. Well, so I called the landlord. They were all gone out of state for like graduation. And I was like, well, do you want me to do something? He's like, yeah, you could try taping it.

Did this person say, hey, I broke the door? Did they say I went to the gym and the door? No, they didn't break the door. They said I was in the gym. The door was not broken. I left the gym an hour later. The door was completely shattered. So they actually pulled up the cage.

and they couldn't tell exactly what happened. But something was, there was definitely a projectile that went through the door because towards about the middle of the door, there's a hole completely through the glass where it all cracked from. I mean, you could poke your finger. So it could have been like a random person like breaking shit. Yeah, that's what it was. Like I'm pretty positive that it was.

They couldn't find it on the camera. Yeah, they couldn't find it on the camera footage. But I'd be shocked if it wasn't a rock or a BB or a pellet or, you know, like, A bullet, I guess, an example. And I got there and you could just hear the, like if you just sat there, you could hear the whole thing going, like clicking and popping and snapping.

Really? And there was just, like, if you would move the door, the whole thing would wave like the ocean, the whole glass thing. Like, I was like, I do not know how this is. So me and another guy, we completely taped, but we put tape,

covered the entire, every square inch of the glass and tape on both sides. How? Did you just, are you there a long time doing this? Yes. Okay.

But like that, that didn't push it out or break it out, putting that. Well, we were pretty careful about it. Okay. Yeah.

So, yes, I was there a long time with this, taping every, you know, however many strips it takes to go, you know,

on both sides of the door. The one guy had just left the circus, so he was maybe three sheets to the wind, but he survived still too. And it was also, you had to be very careful

not to cut your hands. Well, yeah. Because, like, there's all kinds of places where the glass was, you know, there's like eighth inch gaps and stuff where it wasn't just like cracked. It was this. So was there a glass on the floor then, I'm assuming? Yeah, a little bit. I had to do some sweeping and stuff.

Okay. So is there a new door or? Right now there is OSB over it. So I don't think there's going to be a new door. But right now it's covered in OSB. Wow. They should just do like what you do with walking coolers where it's just like the cut strips of plastic

that you just move to the side and walk through. Oh, yeah. Like a meat locker almost? Yeah. It'd be very fitting for Massonomics. Probably not so fitting for the women's salon. Right. I'm holding out hope for the yellow door from the old gym.

Yeah, there you go. You know, almost like the bank vault door. It's like a square. Like the latch mechanism is... The door's like five and a half feet by five and a half feet. by five and a half feet. And it's also like, I don't know, 12 inches thick somehow. Like, you're not sure what it's even made out of exactly.

Also, Snap Fitness Store got broke out this on the same night. Oh, did they have a glass one too? Yeah, but that was a dude kicked it in. Oh, really? It was like in the gym then passed out or, you know, like not passed out. Actually, Caden was on lead shift and they had to take him out by force. Oh. Like it was a drunk dude that was at McDonald's.

Actually, not just drunk, but it was a person under the influence of something. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, damn. Not a good day to be a door in northeast western. No, the gym doors had a rough night. But it is always something. Another case of owning a gym where there is always something.

Never a dull moment. Going through the back catalog, did you ever host the Massonomics seminar discussed in episode 45 or is that just the lift hard live easy now i do not know what that is that's from big andy i have no idea what the massonomic seminar we discussed in episode 45 would have been i have no idea either so yes we'll say that is the lift hard live easy now hmm he asks of massonomics gym will get their name on the new door no we will not keep it low key yep from big tommy stapler schneider Do you see the podcast and YouTube channel growing to a point it becomes 100% full time? To answer that question really specifically where he says,

do you see the podcast and YouTube channel growing to a point it becomes 100% full time? I would say the answer to that is no. Yeah, I mean, the podcast and YouTube for them to be both full time for full time for both of us would have to be generating a lot of money. Yeah. Money that unless you're like, the biggest guy in the space, I don't think anyone does that. Not saying it's impossible, but,

but yes, like you said, to that part specifically, that'd be a stretch. But luckily, we're diversified up in here. We are. And we have things like Jim Radar and merchandise

and other stuff that generate revenue, which makes it more plausible. Massonomics is a growing business. I'll say that. Yeah, it is. It is. It is. Like it does, it does seem more possible every year.

Yeah. Three year, four years ago, I would have, like, I'm sure we've answered the question probably once a year for 10 years. And for the last nine years, I would have just said no. And now I'm like, uh, yeah, I could actually see it. Yeah. That is not banking on it, but I could, I could actually picture that scenario. Yeah.

Like that scenario is not that far off. I always felt much like a dream of like, oh, like that'd be sweet. But yeah. And now it's certain, like, it's kind of almost getting there. but we're also doing more work than we ever thought possible, too. We do a lot. It's not like, well. More now.

We do so much more now than we did two years ago even actually at this point. So much more work. I mean, we might do more in a week now than we did in like multiple months a few years ago. Like five years ago, probably. Oh, five years ago, for sure. Like five years ago was just like, oh, we podcast and then try to make sure we have a drop with one or two things in it once a month.

Like that was. the, I mean, and then there was social posts, but like that was the extent of it. Now we do so much on like a daily basis. The other thing I'd say about that, and I don't know if I've said this publicly before or not, but there are absolutely people out there that if they had what this is right now for us, it would currently be their full-time job. Yes. Without question.

I don't, so we have, we've worked with, um, Like we've kind of over there's people that would have done it two years ago. Yes, we kind of have worked with other people over the years on things. And we've talked with people over the years on things and done some collaborations and seen. I will say this, we work insanely fast. We move at a pace that I'm not even just trying to like toot our own horn or anything here. But like we move at a pace that would. Just in comparison to other some other things we've.

Just look at how much we put out like you we. Okay. No one else. And this podcast is sounding too. congratulatory on things, but I just want to make a point here. Of the volume, I'm not saying we do the best quality in the world. That's debatable. We probably don't.

That's probably not even debatable. We probably don't. To someone we do the best quality. Someone loves, there's at least one or two people out there that were the best. And that's great. But there are people that probably do better quality. I'm not sure there's anyone out there that does more quantity of anything content than

us because it's quantity of a certain quality threshold. And that too, because no one else does. Okay. So we said a weekly podcast, a weekly gym tour, adding in a gym interview video. We do one to two marketing emails a week. We do at least two social posts a day. Some days adding in other channels, there could be three, maybe four social posts a day. There's stories every single day.

There's a monthly merchandise drop. We do a booth at home gym con. We're doing our own powerlifting meet, all this stuff. Like we do. And then, and like that is just this. You know, and then Jim Radar, which. is a whole another animal on top of it, maintaining that whole thing. And by the way, we also have full-time jobs. So, like, it is an insane amount of work. And the only way we actually get that

done is we work insanely fast. And the second we're done with something, outside of marketing it, we just go to the next thing. And sometimes we forget, like, people will be like, hey, this thing. And we're like, oh, that was a month ago. We've already moved. Like, we just move so fast. We forget about it. So, yeah, we do a lot of shit. And the only way we can do it is we move insanely fast. Lately, I mean, usual, the thing is when we're going through the stuff we have to do that we need to get done by a certain time. And then it's like, okay, is that it?

It's like, yep, that's it. It's like today or yesterday. You called me like, oh, it just dawned on me. You know, our meat is two months from today. And we don't have merchandise figured out for the booth. I literally woke up in not a cold. cold sweat, but I woke up like two hours before it was time to wake up. And of course, that's the first thought that strikes my semi-conscious brain. And I'm like, oh, my God,

we need to tackle this right away because I'm so anxious about it all of a sudden. I'm like, all a sudden, I'm like, wait, that's, that's a problem. We do not have stuff to sell to people. And I mean, we've been working on a bunch of things. But I'm like, even factoring in all the stuff we've been working on, I'm like, it's not half, like, we're only halfway there. Yeah. And so we talk. about all the stuff we need to get lined up for the meat. And that's tricky because there's timelines of ordering with vendors, some vendors. Some things take three weeks. Some things take six weeks.

Quantities can be a guessing game. You know, we've done this enough. We kind of know, but we didn't have that thought about it all. We, you know, it ends up being almost an hour long phone call of, okay, this item on this blank and this design and this and this. And let's bring this back and let's do this new. Go through the whole list. Get it all lined up.

And we're like, whew, all right. That fires put out. And also, by the way, home gym cons two weeks after that. It's one week after that. We need to do this all again in about two weeks from now. And that's a whole other just setup up things. And that's just one very small example of what's going on. We are getting compensated better than we used to, too.

Like just like that's inside baseball is like we do way more work, but we do get to pay ourselves and stuff. And like at one point in time, Massonomics wasn't a thing where we made any money. You know, for a really long time, it wasn't a thing where we made any money. We just worked for free. But we also put.

lots of time into it. Exactly. So like we are, it's quote unquote working, you know, but yeah, some people would already have made at their full-time job.

I would say that. Yeah. But that's not really our, our goal, our goal in going into it wasn't how quickly can we quit our jobs. Yeah.

You know, like that's not the, which is also, because we've never thought that, like saying it out loud, I've never really thought of that. But like it is funny when you say that. Like,

because that is kind of what some people, their angle. Like how can I, what's, what's the, when can I get to the point that I can quit and just make it? Which is sweet, but also it, it cranks up the pressure on that all the sudden. Yes. Massonomics is really fun because if things don't go good for a month or two, it doesn't matter. And if it's your only thing, like I said, it would be sweet, but it starts to really be a big deal when things don't go good. Yep.

What do you think the best odd implement for pressing overhead is? I always think, was it the block? Those are always really weird to me. Yeah. I'd like to be a little careful with odd implement pressing overhead. Like we did a thing one time where there was like an Atlas Stone one, and I don't like that. That's legitimately dangerous at a certain point. Like just for the sake of being dangerous.

Big heavy-ass rocks over your head, yeah. Right. So I don't know. I like the tsunami bar. That's not really the question, probably. but I think the tsunami bar is kind of fun. Do we need to do a break, middle here, kick some of these people off in a little bit?

Yeah, we probably should. Should we do one more question and then do that? Okay. From Big Brandon, would you rather every song ever be made, or would you rather every song ever made be written by Buck Cherry or performed by Buck Cherry? I am going to say written.

They are known for their writing expertise. I'm just saying because then at least I have a variety of different people that I can hear. A variety of different people saying the words crazy bitch. Different voices at least. I can't. Well, yeah, that's kind of the dilemma. That's the way I'm exciting. You can have bad lyrics and you can work around those a little bit.

Right. Like when a song just suck, well, You're more music. Neither are great options here. You're more musically limited if they have to perform every song is I think the issue. Okay.

One more just because of speaking of musically limited, have you seen the memes going around about this? What's it? Luke Brian. Is that his name? Oh my God. Dude, I'm so glad you brought that up.

Okay, I actually have an entire rant about that. Is it insane though? Is it? Yes. Me and your brother talked about this for like 15 minutes this week. I got to say. All right.

Okay. full disclosure, I'm not a country guy. I'm not a country guy. I never was. I don't think there's anything wrong. Like, Tanner, you like country music. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think that's totally fine.

And I understand why people like country music. You also aren't really a Luke Bryan guy either. But like where country gets the bad rap or any generalization about any genre is they have their keywords. I'll say to me first too. What's that? It all sounds the same. There's that. Yes.

And it's like, well, you talk about beer and try. trucks and dirt roads and hunting and fishing and that stuff. But man, when I heard this song, I'm like, this song makes the lifting and drinking song sound like I'm freaking Paul McCartney over here. It's like, okay, give me a recording contract because I'm ready to go write this guy a full album. And that song is God awful. It is so bad.

I here's, okay, my thing on this is, I. That is what I said. I'm like, I like country music, especially certain subsects of country music. I like everything from the 90s, including country music. So that's one big area like. Back when we used to be a proper country, you could say. Back when we used to be a proper fucking country. I basically like every bit of music ever made in the 90s.

Like there's not a 90s thing that come on that I'm like, man, I kind of like it. Just because it's time in place probably. And I'm like, yep. I like it. Yeah. But outside of that, there is modern country today that I like. It's not typically, it's not. it's not Luke Bryan and stuff like that.

And I, that is so bad. It embarrasses me that I, what the problem is, because I like country music, of course, of course, this is what I think.

I think I like good country music. You're ruining it for everyone. Well, that's what they're doing actually, because I'm like, yeah, everyone should be making fun of this. And this is like,

you are, this is why country music gets a bad rap because of this. This is so terrible. This is insane. And my one, tinfoil hat theory on it was maybe Luke Bryan has got a little irrelevant

and maybe this is all like yep he just knows like this is like he just knew this is going to go viral for being absolutely terrible and he's not relevant anymore and his only way to be relevant again that may be completely off but it's crazy how bad it is I can't believe

because it's not just him like he has a team around him no doubt and they all were like, yep, this is it. Like, this is what we want. Check. So many people checked off on this and signed off that this is good. Absolutely. And that we can put this out.

And I'm like, there's a, like the lyrics, literally. Can I read the chorus here? Can I just read it? Yes, yes. Okay. Where he says climb tree. That's where I'm like, that doesn't even make any sense. Here is the lyrics.

You are literally just doing the thing everyone makes fun of country music. And it's not like he has some creative saying that's saving this. Like, no, I mean, he's just talking in his Luke Brian. Right. Right. Okay. Here's the chorus. Wake up.

Coffee. Camo. Clim tree. Wetline. 18. Hunt fish. Golf drink. I'm like,

I'm like, dude. Okay. Like, that is so bad. That is so bad. I mean, it's like if you put in to chat GPT,

write me the most stereotypical, bad AI written country song. Like you couldn't even get. it to do that bad without forcing it to do that bad. No, I remember, okay, for just, you know, because I'm like a songwriter over here. Like when I, the Western North East, Lifting and Drinking, when I wrote that song, I literally wrote down the words, lifting and drinking is all I know. Pop another Zin and take it slow. And then I wrote, and then I didn't know what to do next.

So I wrote, Living Easy gets hard and I didn't know what to do. And then I wrote, I asked our, what would Huck Finn do again? And I wrote my strength co plates are made in the U.S. say. I wrote all those down. It's like fill in the blank. So the only word that for that chorus that AI wrote was, uh, living, living easy gets hard when you're going all in. When you're going all in. I'm like, okay, I didn't have that. And then the next ones, I'm like, I don't know how it combines these together. And when I told it's a country song, it just put them together. I'm like, you know what? In a country song, it just works. They just,

you can just say, I ask myself, what would Huck Finn do again? My strength co plates are made in the USA. Like these things aren't related, but it actually works in the context there. Like, dude, wake up coffee, camo, climb tree, wetline, 18, fish, hunt, golf, drink. Like, okay, first of all, man, like, tell me you don't got a damn thing going on in the world. Yeah, yes, yes. It's so bad, though. And then you see the Instagram post ripping on him? And then he's in there arguing with people too.

And most, all the comments that are positive are bots to me that it looks like. And all the negative, all the comments that have a billion likes are. all ripping on it funny to. Like who could read that? Be like, oh, hell yeah. Like, this guy gets it. It's crazy. It's so bad.

I actually apologize if you like that, but I don't actually see how anyone can like that. It's really, really terrible. I really believe it gives country music in general a bad rap because that's the joke. You know, if someone doesn't like country music, you'd say, oh, yeah,

it's just X, Y, Z. And I'm like, yeah, that's what you did. And you didn't even put, it feels like you did no effort even into it. Like, you try to do it as poorly as possible. I've only listened to the, you know, the clips on Instagram because I'm not going to listen to that goddamn song. But like the ending of it, the last four lines of the song are a country boy's dream.

Fish hunt golf drink. Fish hunt golf drink. Fish hunt golf drink. And I'm like, okay, like first of all, you don't need to repeat that three times. But when did the golfing become a central part of country music also? Am I missing something here? Like I fishing, hunting, drinking. Yeah, I get that.

That's kind of in country. But like when did golf sneak into the equation here? Yeah. Actually, that doesn't really Gide quite as well. You're just describing a dude that has a lot of free time and does whatever that way you want. Like you have all the dude hobbies.

Oh, yeah. I could actually talk more about that. The song is called Fish Hunt Golf Drink. Is that the song? Yes, that's what the song is called. I didn't know that was the name of, I thought I at least had a creative name for the song. It's Fish Hunt Golf Drink.

That is, man, this just gets worse as it goes. I like, someone's like, oh, he's got verbs. Like, there's no way. Okay, so the YouTube video has 865 comments. There is no way that that's all that video has. You know they've been deleting comments in there. Oh, for sure. They're policing that like crazy.

I like this. Luke, come on, you're trolling us, right? My other, you don't follow Zach Telly. at all, do you? No. I've enunciated his last name, oddly. He used, he was like a CrossFit lifter and stuff like that, but he, uh, he is a musician now, a singer-songwriter.

And, um, he's got a couple songs that I like. And he's had this funny thing lately, this beef with Diplo, or they've been, like, and Diplo, or they've been, like, I have seen those, yes. Okay. And Diplo is kind of like, uh, we, don't really need people like you anymore. AI does what you do and it does it better and faster and we can make more money. And they've kind of had this funny back and forth.

And I'm like, I just at least as of now, can't see a world where a, where that AI music, like there's always people that don't want that, don't want like AI generated music. Like you can, as of now, you can still spot it. Or you or at least you feel like, even if it's not AI at a certain point, you're like, ah, that feels AI to me. and then you don't like it. Like the worst examples of it,

you can, for a sure spot. Right. The thing that makes it tricky is, so I do agree with the Zach Talander, like the whole thing. Because to me, it's the thing that's like, okay,

like does music just turn into, doesn't be like even when music is produced, like when people say like, oh, you know, like take any pop star and it's like, well, it's a team of 30 people writing the song and they get 20 musicians in there and then they have all the,

it's like, well, yeah, but that's still. Produced to the map. It is, but, and like, yes, you can. A bunch of people. Yeah, you may or may not like that version of music, but at the end of the day, that's like a hundred people doing everything they can

to make the perfect song, which you may or may not like it, but that's a lot of people putting a lot of effort in where the downside of the AI thing is like, no, it's just like a person sitting in front of a computer and they're like, now, computer do this, ah, here's our song. And it just feels so low effort when this, you know, it's music

and, you know, not to be all hippie-dippy, whatever, but it's like, oh, it's expression, and it's about how, someone lives and you want to feel it. And that's the, yeah, it's hard to, even as a guy, like for a long, I mean, I was a big fan at Diplo and Major Laser and all that stuff for a really long time. But like, I watched it something like, man, this really just feels like the rich guy is telling you, nah, shut up and take the AI thing because that's how it's going to be now on.

Two additional side tangents on that before we take our break is Zach actually, brainwashed me to the point of I watched so many of his reels where he was using this one new song of his. I heard it so many times in reels. I'm not a person that goes and looks up music, hardly ever. But I'm like, I didn't think anything of this song in the first 40 times I heard it. After like the 50th, I'm like, you know what? I think I really like the song. And like I've now since had, and it was so funny because your brother was playing it at the gym this week. So it actually got us going on talking on this. I'm like, oh, this is sorry, Richett by Zach Dillander. And he's like, yeah, you know this? And I'm like, yeah, I actually

like this song. So, okay. But it's funny, but we both. And he basically described the exact same scenario that like through Instagram. Oh, that's how he found it. Yeah, like, because he follows him also. Okay. And he uses it like really well. I'm not saying like he, like he, like he, jams us down your throat. He uses it through content and does a really good job of it that you're like after a while. You're like, yeah, I actually kind of like that now. I've heard it so many times in like so many creative ways that it just yeah. And actually like I'm saying brainwashed, which sounds more negative than I mean, but like it actually infiltrated my brain to the point there. I'm like, yeah, I like the song now. You know, I actually. All right. I'm checking this out

as soon as we get off the podcast then. He also talks about a lot about it's weird, you know, because we talk about country music. He's not a country music singer, but it's like it's the genre thing is weird for people now even. Yeah. Where he's like more of a rock singer, but you do a certain thing and all of a sudden people think your country, but then you release stuff and it's like, well, that ain't country.

And it's like, it wasn't. Right. Yeah, correct. You know, like, you just put it in that, that category and. Right. Okay. I'll have to check him out. I don't think I knew he was a crossfitter before he said.

He's got. That's an over, that's also an incorrect and oversimplification. I don't really know. But he was like a fitness personality? Yeah, yeah. Like, yes. Yes, of some sort. Like he's been at the Arnold before we have seen him there and stuff.

You know, he's around that scene. Yeah. Olympic weightlifting, Antis says, yeah, Oli lifter. Yeah, maybe once I see some more of his stuff, it'll click with me. But I did see some of his reels of like, arguing with Diplo and that stuff. Yeah. ain't rich yet is that particular song. Yeah, he's done stuff with

Jugi before Big Cam says. So yeah, he's got, you know, he's a personality. Okay. The one other additional thing that that made me think of that I had written down is we're talking about the AI music thing, but I think it's also interesting, anytime

anyone uses anything AI on the internet now, people, like it's some people's mission is just to like, the message is completely irrelevant. If some, there's a group of people if they see something AI, they're just rushing to the comments like, ah, AI slop. And I'm like, it was actually today what made me think of it. And it's just, I've noticed this before on other people's, but it's because we, I used a image that we had made like six months ago for the line in the sand.

And it's obviously made by AI. It's like not trying to be masked as not AI. And there's a couple people that like came out to comment on that that's just like, ah, AI. slop garbage and I'm like obviously it's AI like that wasn't uh right to be hidden at some point in time but I'm like and I see that anytime anyone post something that's made from AI there's always a group of comment sections that's just like they're just to point out that it's like AI garbage or AI slop and I'm like well it's isn't it a tool that can be used for like why is it uh yeah I think it's over because I kind of agree with the sentiment actually

But I just think at a certain point, oh, you're just like policing the world for anyone that's used this tool then at what, like, I'm like, I feel like that's overdoing it. Yeah. See, it's really tricky. And it's anything with AI gets very complicated because you say, well, if we weren't using that, well, we would have just used either some garbage throwaway image or whatever. Like, like, social posts are just so like they're, it's out there and it's gone. Here are they gone in two hours. And like that's something that in the past, it's not like someone lost their job there.

We wouldn't have been paying someone to make that post. We never have paid someone to make a post. And I'm speaking specifically of Instagram too. Yeah. Like where I noticed that. Yeah. And that's where it gets harder. It is.

It's really complicated because it's like, well, in the past, I don't know, we maybe would have ripped some stupid screen grab from a movie or something and throwing some image on it. It's like, well, also that's not, that's just a whole different thing too. Right. It is just the,

the disposability of like all the stuff on Instagram that makes it a little more. And we're not doing it. I would say like we're not doing. I see a ton of people on Instagram posts all the time where they're faking stuff with AI, you know, like they're using it to build really elaborate fake scenes or fake images, which you could say, well, you could do that with Photoshop in the past or maybe staging things. But yeah, I mean, I understand the sentiment of people hating that.

I guess if you're going to be mad at AI, which I can also understand, like on a, basically essentially massonomics meme page there are more there are better places to dictate your anger or to point your anger than like a dumb meme well i'm i'm just wondering what specifically are you angry about at that point that we used i i just don't believe that these people are never using AI of any kind at this point i mean it's really like you're using it by default i know this part it is hard to say like you like you can definitely stand on like you can draw the line on things like you have the ability to a certain extent but depending on what your job is and what they're using it. Like, it's just like, did you Google something?

You know, like that's what I'm saying is like, have you Googled something? Because it gives an AI search result. Like, exactly. So what? You just can't use. I mean, like, maybe you don't. Maybe you use Duck, Duck, Go. And I don't know, maybe Duck, Doe go has a thing. I'm not sure. Yeah, some people may actually have adjusted their lives to make sure not to use any of all. I actually don't believe hardly any of those people commenting that are those people though. Yeah. I'm like, you probably used it. You probably used it six times today, either consciously or without choice. Yeah.

But then you're like, but you made a picture with it. Well, I mean, if you're on Instagram, they have their whole algorithms, you know, doing all types of crap. It's like you're just part

of some AI machine at the end of the day anyways. Yeah. Now should we take a break from that. Break it off. All right, I'm going to start booting people here. And I'm going to talk about

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that we've implemented more recently. It's just the 29th time here that we've done it in season two of the podcast. It's one of our ways that we give back to those of you that sign up to become supporting members, which we've got several new supporting members. So this is one of the perks. We've talked about our mailer that's going out as another big perk and many other things. But this week, almost Big Jared got second place at Montana Strongman Classic in the 90-kilogram Masters. He set a circus dumbbell state record. There was a Hall of Fame Jacket crew member meet up with Big Dodzilla and Ryan from Iowa.

They got a lift in together in Dodzilla's deadlift dungeon. There's a crew mock meet with Big Alex and Big Brian, Jersey crew where they hit some PRs. Big Troy got first place in his 46 to 50 year old intermediate BMX state qualifier event in Rockford, Illinois. Oh, hell yeah. Just flying around the track BMX style. There was an Ontario crew.

strong men meet up just south of the border. It was Big Joey, Big Steve, Big Hammond, big Anastasia. They were, I think, maybe going through the Lift Hardly, Easy Classic Strongman events, doing some practice there. Big Joe did a 100-mile bike ride for American Lung Association fundraiser. That'd be cool to do someday, 100-mile bike ride. That's a trek. That's a trick.

Do you think it was all downhill? It's all downhill from here. No, I'm guessing it was a combination. A little up, little up. little down, little elevation change. Big Dan Eager got second place in his open class at Pittsburgh's strongest man. Big Spoon went seven for seven at his USAPL

Southeast regionals with a 1213 total. Nice. Big Jim did the Denver Kofax 5K in a time of 34 minutes and 25 seconds. I went to a 5K this weekend. Oh. Didn't run it. You guys are pretty much the same. Yeah.

Potato Potato. Big Andrew hit a family PR with his new baby girl. Big Scott. Yeah, congrats. Big Scott won a Swart Award. Beast of the East Men's Middleweight Strongman competition. And this week's guest on Unpaid and Underrated was none other than Big Hayden Love Lady

of the Alabama contingency. The Love Ladies. Down in Alabama. Check out their gym misfits. Misfit or Misfits? Misfit barbell? It's on gym radar. Look up Misfit.

I can't remember if it's plural or not. You'll find it on Jim radar and go give the episode a listen. Unpaid and Underrated our Braddy Little Sister podcast. Do we want to do a certified training facility of the week? We do want to. I'm looking through some gyms here. Okay. I think I got one here.

This is a little different take. All right. What are we working with? We're looking at Bougie Barbell. How do you spell that? B-O-U-J-E. Glad you had told me because I would not have gotten that right. French or something.

Let's see here. Let's mark this as the certified training facility of the week. It has been done. I saw it happen. All right. Okay. Bougie Barbell. We're in Buffalo, New York.

Oh, just missed it. We missed it. Damn. I bet it wasn't on gym radar yet. I guess we'll have to get them the next time we go. Yep. So the owner, Booji Barbell, Bougy Barbell is garage gym connoisseur.

Not an enthusiast. A connoisseur. I was going to say, is that an enthusiast? Uh, bio. Just a dude. Middle age first responder obsessed with building the ultimate home gym. Um, okay. What do we got here?

This is a garage gym. It is roughly 400 square feet. and it was established in 2020. Ready to take a look at this thing? Oh, actually, top equipment brands. Top equipment brands. Oh, wow. Prime Jim Liko and New Tech.

What the heck? And he has eight pieces of equipment on Jim Radar. He definitely has more than eight pieces of equipment, but he has eight pieces logged. And he even has some reviews in here, too. So we love to see that. Seven equipment reviews. All right.

First photo. So this is in a garage. Painted. Really nice. It has a really nice, just like gray to it. Yep. And, oh, is that a mini split up in the corner up there, Tanner? Is it?

I see that right? Yeah, we got a mini split. So we have climate control. So we got climate control. All right. Mini split action. So we got nicely painted walls. We got climate control.

We got horse stall mats down. This looks like wall-to-wall horse stall mats, doesn't it? Yeah, it does. But what really makes this gym special, is the equipment pieces in it. And it is a, you could say prime selection of equipment if you get what I'm saying,

your Tanner. It's prime. The first photo, do we know what rack this is? It's the Prodigy HLP plate loaded rack, the prime fitness. Damn. And I was going to say,

how many people have the prime fitness rack? And well, luckily with Jim Radar, we can know that exact answer. This is the only guy with it. So I didn't, Actually, I've never heard of someone having that rack before. So this is very interesting.

He has the prime rack. Basically, he's got that prime. What do they call that arm? Like, or the pad that comes out. I can't remember what the hell they call that thing. But he's got pretty much every little attachment prime-wise. He's got those adjustable pull-up handles that we were looking at at Big Steve's gym. Remember?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. He does have those. I like those. Yeah. This thing's got a functional trainer in it, too, doesn't it? Yeah. That's plate loaded.

Yeah. So it's got all, I mean, it's got all the stuff, all the prime stuff. He has the smart arm attached to it with the, I don't know, is that the shorty bench there or whatever.

All the things. What's this fly lateral rays? Does he have this in here? See that lateral raise over there? Oh, New Tech Peck Deck fly. That's New Tech. Is that the one you're talking about?

Or are you saying like the thing that looks like the, in that right corner. What is that thing? That, I don't know. It kind of looks like the Arsenal one a little bit, but it's not. Yeah. Well, he doesn't have that one logged.

I'm curious what that piece is. It's a selectorized, you know, kind of multi-flight type machine. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm not sure what that is. And then we're going to look at photo number two here. This is where you can see the rest of the prime machines. And just to give you a rundown on what he has as far as this goes. He has the, oh, what does he have?

He has the prime plate-loaded chest press, the prime plate. plate loaded pull down, the plate loaded seated row. He also has a new tech peck deck fly, a Jim Liko standing calf press, Jim Liko leg extension leg curl, and a Jim Lico adductor, abductor machine. Man, that is a, and I'm just cycling through some of these photos. As you can imagine, this is like a two-stall garage. And, as you can imagine, the machines take up most. Wait.

what's this leg press in the corner back here? See that thing? Like the big leg press or the... Yeah, the really big one in that right corner. It's not the quad send, is it? It's kind of what it looks like. It's just huge, but it's from behind, so it's hard to...

You can't see any branding or anything on it. I'm not sure what leg press that is. It's a very large leg press. Yeah, if we've got to get him to update some of his equipment on here. Yeah. Can't even tell what it all is. Yeah, so I mean, I kind of... I jumped ahead a little bit.

But if you look through the photos, you can see all the machines. Everything's very clean, put away nicely. He has some storage options for putting some of the different prime pieces on the wall. But probably the most pieces of prime equipment. Well, Jose is up there too. Jose. I don't know. This might rival Jose though.

It's right up there. Jose probably less more, actually. Yeah, Jose's got a lot. No way. An impressive gym. nonetheless. Yeah. Do you think that you could get strong

inside a bougie barbell? It is bougie. Oh, you know we're going to be manipulating those force curves and felt loads with those triple prime things. Yeah, so hell yeah. Field D's loads. I feel like he did earn the name,

Bougy Barbell. I think so. Certifiable. Okay. Getting strong in there for show. Do we want to get back to some questions then? Yeah, let's do it. God, I'm almost wondering.

do we end up I could save some of these questions and we could just next week's episode could be a Q&A episode too. We could. Because we're already at an hour and 20 minutes. We'll do a couple more for sure.

We just get distracted too easily, you know? Yeah. We tangented on some things. As enthusiasts, okay, yeah, I already like this. Yep. Which machines that you've tried to make the Mount Rush more of strength curves?

God. I don't think I actually want to analyze the strength curves that deeply. I appreciate the, I like the question. I appreciate the sentiment here. But I don't want to get into the strength curves of the machines all that much. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, actually probably the real answer is like,

probably look at commercial machines. They're probably going to beat home generation. sheets every time. Right. From Wycos, Jim, would you, would you rather have permanent Cheeto residue on your fingers or thumb-sized nips? Oh, man. I take that as like protruding.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Yes. Of a thumb? Yeah. I'm going with the Cheeto fingers. That would be awful. Yeah. You probably got to go with the cheetah fingers and just.

or the Cheeto fingers and just apologize for your dirtiness. There's no way to conceal thumb. Yeah, like if you got to be in public, like wearing a t-shirt or something, you're just screwed, man. You can conceal your hands, but. That would be terrible. From Big Andy. Can we get a podcast review throwback episode?

Just read a bunch of old reviews. I'll never say never. Big Kevin says, what percentage of crew have home gyms? What percentage of strength athletes have home gyms? What percentage of supporting member crew do you think have home gyms? Half? So that was going to be my starting point.

That was exactly where I went. It's probably under half. I would guess it's under half. But I think it's more than 25%. I think so too. I think it might be like 35 or 40%. Yeah, I don't, I mean, and it's, it's trended 33% one and three is for sure, you know.

Yeah. Also depends, you know, some people just have something. Yeah, it does depend on, Yeah, what, you know, if someone has a bench and some dumbbells, do you consider that a home gym or not that, you know, maybe they get a little, a little lift in throughout the week. Right. Some of it is a little bit of a gray area as to what people would traditionally consider it.

What percentage of strength athletes have home gym? so not just supporting member. Well, I would say that that percentage is lower than the mass not supporting membership career. Yeah, for sure. But are we saying strength athletes in the way that just like, do you have to be a competitor or are we just saying someone that does

strength sport? I would just say maybe anyone that does any competing of power lifting or strong man or Olympic lifting. Yeah, I would agree with that. That number is lower. but I feel like it goes up every year. It has to, though. Yeah.

I would say maybe like 20%, but I don't know. That might even be a total wildest guess. Yeah. Like a lot of times if you're to the point of like taking power lifting a little more seriously and stuff, you usually have a gym and a crew that you're lifting with. Right.

It may be 10, maybe 15. Maybe. 20's 1 in 5, 10's 1 in 10. I'd believe 10-ish. Yeah. From Big Joey. Is Mass. a podcast with merch or a merch company with a podcast.

It is, if I had to just answer that question, simply I would say it is a podcast with merch. I don't think we're a merch company with a podcast. That would be a really weird angle. I mean, yeah, it is kind of like that is, you could make the argument that at one point it was that. It was a bunch company with a podcast. Oh, I think at one point in time,

that's kind of, was kind of true. Yeah. true. But at this point, no. I mean, financially make way more money selling merch than you do podcasting, but you could say the success of the merch now more than ever is dependent on the podcast and the YouTube videos and all the other stuff, like giving people something to be a fan of and excited about and wanting to support. So the merch gives them a way to do that. If we didn't have everything else, there would be no merch company.

Well, that is the thing. Like the merch company could not stand alone. Yeah, it would have been done a long time ago because, It would have been done five years ago. Yeah. I actually, but I would phrase that company or that it's not even really a podcast company. It's as dumb as it sounds. It is more of a content company.

Right. First. Right. You know, it would just make so many content or so many pieces of content. And then the merch line does exist. What was used to dig the line in the sand from the Iron Island gym? Oh. We busted the leg stay off of the old leg extension machine and just scraped it right into the ground.

Right into the sand. From Big Mofo. When you guys meet those Jim Radar guys, what's happening? Handshake, hug, or cheat kiss? I just would love to have a beer with those guys. They seem like guys that would be fun to have a beer with. I think that's what it is. We're cracking beers with them.

We're cheering a beer with them. I don't even, I mean, can't imagine ever meeting those guys, though. They're so shrouding. and mystery. It's on our bucket list for sure. Uh-huh. Love what they're doing over there. Oh, love what they're doing. If we could get anyone on the podcast like bucket list, those Jim Radar guys are up there for sure. From Big Will. Big Will list. If you have two lasagna and you stack one on top of the other, do you now have just one big lasagna? I'm saying yes. I kind of agree with it, actually.

Lazzania is ambiguous in how deep and thick and how many layers it has. And if there's one thing Tanner knows besides being straight, it's Italian food. That's absolutely right. Although two on top of each other would obviously be an obnoxiously thick. Well, some people make kind of thin lasagna, though. Have you ever ran across that? I'm not a fan of the thin lasagna. No, it's got to be like, you know, proper like.

I want some layers. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Preferably with little cottage cheese built in to the action. Not arguing there. Little, uh, protein spiking. Yep. The cottage, no.

Cottage cheese. Yeah. Cottage cheese. Yeah. Um, I still kind of think it's one big lasagna. I do too. You just eat a smaller slice is all that happens. It's just, it is one lasagna.

You just don't eat. All right. Like, actually, dimensions change. Total square footage stays the same of the piece. Yep. Yep. I agree. That's the right answer.

From Big Garrett. What's the oldest thing on the podcast document you guys haven't talked about? I actually like this. What is in here? Well, you have, you know, the segment you made a longer, you have a who weighs more segment in here. That was created September 4th, 2019. Is there not? Okay, I was like, is there a one in there that we've never done?

And I actually not sure. I don't know either. Actually, some of these names are hilarious who's in here because. Where's the date? What do you see? On the very bottom, if you scroll down, it says when it was created. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Well, the future guest section is really funny because when there was more things that we had plan on guests, I mean, there's guests in here from. Oh yeah. I haven't even looked at that for a long time. 2020 topics. Here's another topic from September 30th, 2019. One from July 25th, 2019. Supplement Reel or Fake was created April 3rd, 2019.

That's still sitting in there. Yeah, I like this one. We've actually, I think we've done this before. Name that lifter. Did we do that a few times? Yeah, we did. because you would read like their Instagram bio and I had to guess who it was.

Oh, yeah. It's still sitting in here. Yeah, that's from 2019. Or it was like, wouldn't it be like I would say who they're sponsored by or something like that? You would just read their Instagram bio and usually that it could some sponsors.

Yeah. Right. Yeah, I forgot about that one. So yeah, we do have stuff sitting in here from 2019. I don't know if that where are they now one we ever did. I don't think, yeah, we do have one in here. Where are they now? June 25th, 2019.

And the names were Jesse Norris. Eric Spoto, Derek Kendall, George Lehman, Zahir. We put that in there over six years ago. It's still sitting there. A lot of those people would still like to know where are they now. Then we thought it was old. Man, this is six years later.

I don't know what the angle, like specifically how it played. Maybe that was why we never, because there never was. I think that's why. I think like it makes, generally speaking, it makes sense. Like, oh, where are these guys now? But what is the fault? Like, we need to actually know where they are.

now. Right. Have some information to share and also have something that's entertaining, not like, uh, yeah, he's out of the scene and he has a job. Right. It's not a good segment. So it never happened,

but you can see. I like our potential sponsor lists that we have way down here too. There's some funny ones in here. Yeah. Some of these companies are definitely not in business, Kabuki. Fusion Sports Performance, not in business. Yeah, I actually don't go this low in the document very often. So, no.

I haven't seen a lot of this stuff. Or forgot it existed. There's a billboard section down there even. I don't know what that's doing. It's blank. Okay. So 2019-ish. Yep.

What about leg abductor machines? Also strength while sitting on your butt. Yeah, I think those are decent. They're just not quite as popular as the leg extension leg girl, right? Yeah, they have a tier below. Yeah. They are a tier below. I'm just counting.

there is almost 40 more questions. I'm just wondering if we should stop at a certain point and then just save them. Should we read like two more questions and then we could do like a radar report and stuff and we just do. Or five or even. It still leaves us 35 for next week. Right, right. Okay. We'll just do a few more.

Has your definition of a successful brand changed from the beginning to now? This is from Not Strong, Just Fat. definition of a successful brand change from the beginning to now. Absolutely, it's changed because like what our brand even was then versus now is just way different. Yeah, I would also say though it hasn't changed because we never defined what a successful brand actually is. Well, that's true. But at the time, like when we started towards the beginning, I was just like, I guess we sell a bunch of t-shirts and people listen to our podcast, you know, that sort of thing. Yeah, it's hard because like if you like if we just said from the first year we made apparel to now and you said like, hey, this is what it would like like 10 years from now or whatever.

It wouldn't be like, whoa, how did that? It's not like we totally change industries or even totally changed. Actually, you could say we're doing a lot of the stuff we did like the first year and then kind of abandoned. We're just doing it more. It's like it's not like we did some crazy jump or anything, but it's maybe just the fact that how we've. kind of have refined the processes and really figured out our voice and how we do it. You know, like we're not trying to be something that's not Masonomics here. Right.

I think that's true. From Big Joe, who is your pick to win the big but new men's strongman class? Well, I would have to double check the roster. So big but new, let's check the roster real quick here. Not that one. big old men big but new oh my gosh there's too many there's very long list big gary big andrew from ohio cam ford from uh canada big joe big trevor from south dakota big william big tom from ohio big joey e from rogue uh big jonathan big big kyle debo

Big David Hunter and big Alex Kerr. So he asked who the pick to win is. That is very hard. That's really hard. I know who most of those guys are. Yeah. But I just don't know how they, I don't know their performance at any given event.

I couldn't even give an answer there. Yeah. I'll say this. There's a Max deadlift event. I know Joey E has a big deadlift. He does. Yeah. I might, I'm not sure about everyone else, but if you made me pick who's going to win the deadlift event, I think it might be Joey out of that group.

He's got a pretty big deadlift. Yeah. I'll say this. The rest of them, it'd be like choosing my favorite out of my children who my favorite is, and I only do that secretly and not in public. I'll say this. I'd hate to be the one missing out on the pre-strongman get together in the hot tub at the Ramkota. That's what I'll say. When that group shows up.

The real winner is the hot tub action. Oh my gosh. Now I've got to find where my spot in line was of all these questions. There's just more coming in by the second, too. I can't hardly. Okay. That was from who did I say? That was from Big Joe.

Okay. From Big Kark because what do family members or coworkers think of Massonomics, ones that aren't familiar with it? I guess I'd have to say that aren't very familiar with it, because if they're not familiar with it at all, they wouldn't think about it at all. It's easy for me. I don't have coworkers, so no one thinks about it there. Family members, I don't know.

They kind of, they sort of get it, but they kind of like just, the more you explain it, the more confusing it gets. So I just don't even get a whole lot of questions, honestly. Even my spouse, like, the more I explain it sometimes, I'm like, oh, God, I just, I don't need this to be a 20 minute story and like for it to make sense it has to be a 30 minute story so I'll just like give you the brief overview and I know it's not going to make a ton of sense but some of my uh not immediate family members that like see stuff on faith I would say almost Facebook probably usually and they definitely know it's a thing and then like we go on all these

trips and stuff you know so that pops up and I think like the comment I get from them sometimes it's like, oh, it seems like you're staying really busy with that stuff. You know, like where it's like, they're definitely aware that there's a lot going on. Like that's what they get is that like we go a lot of places and that we're very busy with whatever it is that we're doing over here. Which is the truth. Yeah, that's very busy with what we got going on over here. And coworkers, I have just a couple that would be listening to this that are like either gym members or support. members that, well, they get it perfectly.

We can actually get to joke about it when we run into each other. You know what I think is the perfect meme, Tanner? I actually don't. This is one of those in my head that makes sense. But then you watch the scene that probably doesn't actually make any sense at all. But as far as your coworkers go, I just think of like the meat of the lift, the week of the lift hardly be easy when it's just crazy and there's so much stuff going on. Yeah.

And, you know, we're kind of the central figureheads of orchestrating this whole thing. And it reminds me of that scene in old school when they go up to, uh, I, I can't remember if they're at, Will Farrell's office or who they're at. And they're like, sir, we could only find the little tubs of K.Y. Jelly, not the 50 gallon jugs. And he's like, I think it's Luke Wilson. And he's like, damn it. And he's like, telling him what to do. And then he's like, got to play it off. Like he doesn't have this double life.

Right. Oh, that's kind of what it's like. I mean, that is what it's like. I think in the movie it's blue, you know, blue like the 80-year-old man and like Will Ferrell are like, my boy blue. We could only find the little tubes of K.Y. Jelly. He's coming to his office to explain it to him. That's what it's like, especially like that, I've mentioned this before,

but especially when we go do, like the lift, Hardly, Easy is a great example when that's all wrapped up and I go back to work. It's like, man, this is what I have to do after that. It's like, or we go to the ego Olympics and it's this thing where, or even staying. Right. I mean, yes, like that is an extreme example.

Yes. Like, oh, yeah, we're just like, doing the thing with a bunch of people that this is their life. Or we go to home gymcon and everyone, you know, you literally run into hundreds of people that are like, just stoked to see you and meet you and take a picture. Or even like the art. And we just hang out at the eagle and have a great time.

You know, it's. Yes. Yeah. And then you go back to work and it's, and everyone's like, like the old joke where I say, like, hey, dipshit, you're five minutes late. You got that report done? It's not really what my job's like, kind of, but like, that's the, that's the sentiment.

Sentiment. Yeah. That's the idea. Yeah, most people have almost no clue. The marketing team's going to come in to explain how marketing works to you, idiots. Yes. People, a lot of people understand that there's a gym. Yeah. At work.

Like, you know, that I, and the nice part about the gym is that everyone gets what a gym is. They don't really actually get what ours is like, but. They understand that they have an idea of what a gym is. You know, one of those things with vibrating machines in it. Yes, yes. So that's, and that's usually about all that they get, you know, outside of the people that are actually really into it. You know, I have a thousand coworkers, kind of, and a few of those are really in the mass eyes. You consider them team members, right?

Or do you call them family? Oh, they're on the same team. Yeah. I like to consider them family. They actually, they are more important to me than my actual family. is these people that all come here because we get paychecks. And definitely would not move on if they had a better opportunity. Even just slightly better or like.

Or maybe even a lateral opportunity. They just want to move anyways. They just hate it or they've been hating it for seven years. You just have to do something different so they don't eat a bullet. Like that sort of thing. Yeah, so most people just don't know. Most people know very little. Let's do, should we do one more?

Yeah, that's fine. We should also do a radar report to then, too, right? And maybe a juggernaut AI out even. Keep losing my spot now. That's how you know it's time to move on. Okay. From Diet Coke Destroyer, when is the drop? Shameless plug for ones that are unaware.

Well, we already talked about that. Yeah. We'll do another one. Better one than that. Yeah. Okay. What is the best way to celebrate America 250, the 250 year anniversary of America this summer? What's the best way to celebrate that?

The best way. I mean, I can give you really cliche, obvious answers. I'm just trying to think of there's something more creative here. I just don't, I mean, what I'll actually do to celebrate it is, you know, hang out with my family in my backyard and grill and do water stuff. and that's fun. I like that stuff. It's not really any different because it's $2.50 to me.

Yeah, I mean, that's going to be my case. And like if I'm lucky, one of my kids might be able to stay up until 10 o'clock and catch a few fireworks. Or they might just both be sleeping because we've done so much stuff and we might not see any. So that's, but that's how it goes. And that's the beauty of it.

I don't love fireworks. I just don't like fireworks that much. I used to. I think I got fireworked out at a certain point in my youth. And I'm like, yeah, I'm good on those. I saw all the fireworks that I need. I mean, I don't get like excited for them. Like if it's there, you know, it can be cool.

But it's, I mean, I don't go out of my way to do that currently. All right. One more from Big Holland. Okay, what would you choose here? A vegetable only bulk or olive oil only cut. Disregarding macros and micronutrients. So would you go, vegetable only bulk. or olive oil only cut.

So we're basically saying, do you want to eat an insane amount of vegetables or a very minimal amount of olive oil and only olive oil? I got to go to the vegetables. I mean, is it possible to bulk on vegetables, though? No, not for me. That's what I'm saying.

I'd start throwing up, I think, before I could eat that many calories of it. Especially if you can't put butter on it. At least with the olive oil cut, you know, you can cut. But you can just cut because you just starve because you just eat one tablespoon of olive oil all day and call it good. Yuck. I never. It's how long does this got to go for? You know? Ah, yeah, that's true too.

And what's the, you know, is it, if it's a competition of in a week, how much can you cut on an olive oil bulk? Right. Because you really need to bolt. Well, if yeah, if it was like what I want, what I think is going to be more effective. Yeah. I would say olive oil cut. But it just started yourself. What you had to actually commit to, I mean, it would be the eating vegetables.

And, well, I guess if I fall short, I just lose weight and it's no big deal then. No, but no, that's not the case. If you fall short, you're dead. What are the stakes here? That's the question. If you get on the, it's a squid game. If you get on the scale and it doesn't go up, you die. They just shoot you.

You're surrounded by 30 armed guards. You'll eat cucumbers until you gain wins. Wait. I don't think you could. You'd die. There'd be no way. Like, you would, that, you know how gross? It'd be like, you're going to eat broccoli until you've eaten 4,000 calories.

Like, well, how big would the tub of rocks? Like, you'd sit there in the morning starting, you'd have to literally do nothing. You'd have to not move. Like, I have to be 100% sedentary. Yeah. Because any movement will burn excess calories. And you would, it's like a cow. actually.

You know what a cow does? It just stands in place and eats all waking hours. And that's how they bulk. That's what you'd be doing with the broccoli. I'd be like, no, I just, like, because you'd be so disgusted by it. So you just always have to be eating a little bit of it because, you know. Now that's a real squid game right there.

I would say could the gray area becomes like corn and potatoes. Well, and how much variety you get. Right. It fits every vegetable in the, world. There's some you could. If it's cucumbers, it's so not calorically dense. I just don't know if you could. Like, what are you going to do? Like, eat 40 cucumbers. But even then, I mean, you've just, it's just all water weight, right? You're just pissing out the cucumbers basically. I like nicely sliced and prepared raw cucumbers. But the thought of just taking up. They must be nicely sliced and prepared. These slices are off. He's out.

Hey. I'm as straight as they come, but I love a good cucumber. But the thought of just taking a bite from a cucumber, like just biting off is disgusting to me. Like, could you, like,

would you just, could you just take a hunk of one? No, no, I couldn't. My kids could. My kids would, but I just,

I agree that you have to be nicely sliced here. So you agree with that. I wasn't sure what you're getting at, but I do get what you're saying now. Yeah, I'm not eating like a carrot, you know, like it's not happening. Oh my God, that's vial. And I would prefer my carrots not be sliced. I might even gag if, like, I had to eat a cucumber that way. Like, eat it like you would a banana.

Yeah. Yeah, it's not, I'm not eating a cucumber like that. So what did you say about a carrot? You'd prefer it what? Like, I would prefer my carrot to eat that way. Like, I don't want my carrot all nicely sliced. little pieces. I just want to eat a carrot stick.

You just Bugs Bunny a carrot. Yeah. Like that's how I prefer, like for playing this game of eating unlimited amounts of food. Like I don't want all these sliced up pieces of carrots that I got to like eat like chips, you know.

But I do want my cucumbers that way. I've never bugs bunnies a full-sized carrot before. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. You peel the cookies. I also, I only like baby carrots if I'm being honest. I mean, that is,

if I'm eating carrots, that's how it is 99.9.9% of the time. But they, I like really moist baby carrots. Not dry where they become like they get like a white. You know what I'm talking about? That's repulsive. Carrots are like my kids' favorite.

So I know exactly what you mean. I'm like, do you eat this? And yes, they do. I do not want them to be dry and white powdery covered. Yeah, like dry. I like him in a little in a bath of water actually is the preferred method. I know they're fresh. Fresh from the first.

field when they're in a white plastic, or when they're in a plastic bag of water. That's how you know. I also do not like if I have baby carrots and they sneak in some really thick ones in there. I'm like, no, I want, these are advertised as baby carrots. This is like a full-blown, this is like a teenager carrot that you're like sneaking into the baby carrot bag. They don't taste as good. No.

I like the veal of carrots. They're all grisly and rough. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Any other vegetables that we would, like, what would, what, if that was the thing, and we're saying, like, no, potatoes and corn don't count. What vegetables are you going with?

Carrots for sure. Actually, carrots would have to be one of them. Yeah. If you could use a little bit of sugar in carrots, isn't it? Oh, butter would change, change the game. Like, I could eat a whole squash if I could put butter on it. I could just devise it. a squash.

Is squash allowed? Like squash is a vegetable. Definitely not a fruit. No, no, but I'm like, well, a potato's a vegetable, right? Or is it just a starch? I mean, I would consider it a vegetable. Because then I'm like, oh, I'm just going, if I can go butter, I'll go sweet potatoes and butter and I could gain weight on that.

Like, those are great. It's still a lot. You'd have to eat, though. Yeah, actually, I'm oversimplifying that I could gain weight on it. I'd probably get sick to my stomach the first day and not actually getting weight. but like, yeah. But if you're just going like the, what if you're just going green vegetables?

I don't know what's the most calorie-dense vegetable. Yeah, it's starchy. Yeah. Like if you exclude those, is carrots up there? Because carrots have some shirt. Pinto beans. That's not counting. That's not,

see, that's to me not in the spirit of vegetables here. Yeah. Right. I'm thinking more of leafy greens, you know. Right. Like spinach leaves. Broccoli. What do you like better, broccoli or cauliflower?

Okay. So I buy the Normandy blend of frozen vegetables from Kirkland or from Costco. You know, it's like a four-pound bag or whatever. And it's broccoli, cauliflower, and some kind of like carrots of varying colors that are all sliced up. And I actually really do, in that scenario, I really do prefer the cauliflower. So does it taste different? Does cauliflower taste different than broccoli? Well, in that scenario, I don't even really know if it tastes different.

I just think the texture is better because it doesn't seem to get as money those hard stocks as like the broccoli does. Yeah, I don't like the really hard stocks. It's just too, that ruins it for me. But as far as flavor goes, like if you just had raw ones, like you know when someone has a veggie tray? Yeah, do they taste different? I think they taste different. Why, you don't like californ? I actually don't know because I do not like eating either of those raw very well.

I actually don't mind either one, Ra. I'd have a hard time saying what one I prefer there. That's tricky. I don't know. They kind of go to get, like they're kind of interchangeable feeling, though, aren't they? They are. Yes. But broccoli is the more popular also, right?

Oh, yeah. People always talk about broccoli. cauliflower kind of gets shafted in the discussion, doesn't it? I think it does, yeah. Okay. Should we save the rest of the questions? I'm cool. that.

Was any of these questions going to be the title topic? One of them is. Yeah. The question doesn't know and we don't know yet, but one of them is. Yeah. Okay. I got something here. Do we want to do a radar report or I guess we don't have to?

We could just... I mean, I got something we can talk about. What's our time at here? Actually, what is it? Because I missed my time's off. Oh, yeah. We're at over like an hour and 52 minutes. Oh.

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and you can save 10% on the lifetime of your membership. Juggernai.com.A.I. Dot app. Code Masonomics will save you. Sports and book segment, quick update the Spurs lost tonight in game two to the Thunder, so it is one one now. Okay. Who do you want to win that one? See, it's tricky because I hate rooting for the team that beats you. Yeah. I don't like that. I normally feel that way, but I'm on the Spurs bandwagon. and I, even though they beat us, I'm kind of liking them. Ah, yeah, I picked them over the, I would prefer to see them win over the Thunder.

Also, it is crazy. The age of the Spurs team is absolutely ridiculous. It's insane. Like, they have a starter that's 20. All of their players are young. Like their oldest players, like 23. Yeah, I know. Like there's guys in college sports that play.

Yeah. College sports much older than this. And these guys are all in the NBA at the highest level, and they're like 20 to 20. 23 years old. Yeah, I want to see Spurs Knicks, which should be a rematch of like right after Michael Jordan retired. I think it's like 1999 or something. Yeah.

I think that's the matchup the world wants to see. Yeah. Outside of Spurs and what Cavs fans? Outside of Oklahoma City and Cleveland. Yeah. Okay. The one other thing. Yeah, I'll mention that, the squat thing.

I'm just going to write that down as a. Oh, like we're going next week you're saying. or? Well, I guess I don't know because it all bring that up next week. The one thing I will, we can close on this week is I wrote down two sack segments. We did our sack segment from Jeff. I also wrote down sack segment.

And I don't know if you could tell there was a different emphasis on the second one. Like that's our sack payment, but now I wanted to do a sack segment. And this sack segment, you might not be aware of this. you might be aware of it through something, but you know what's big right now? Huh.

Well, I've been seeing it everywhere, especially in my backyard and anywhere that my oldest son goes and anywhere that teenagers are anywhere, and you can't actually even find these to purchase them. It's a particular kind of sack. Do you know what the sack is? This is a hacky sack? Hacky sack.

The old footbag. The footbag is back and bigger than ever. It's funny to say that, Because we were on vacation and we did a little getaway like two weeks ago. We went to Omaha and at one point we were driving through Omaha and there was some kids in a circle playing hacky sack. And I told my wife, I'm like, oh, I used to do that all the time when I was a kid. I kind of missed that. And because I hadn't seen it in years.

So, yeah, I was not aware that this is a thing. Yeah, you literally can't even buy them at most places now. Actually, uh, running's had them locally. So my son and his friend, they went and bought them all and then were just reselling him. for like double price. Dirty scalps. Yeah. They were scalping hacky sacks.

Wow. And like they, it's funny because my son's been playing all the time and it literally twice this week I was just driving through a neighborhood and saw two random group of kids playing hacky sack in the backyard. And is this like a nationwide thing actually? Yeah, I think so.

Okay. I mean, did you guys ever play when you were younger? Was that ever a thing? All the time. Yeah. Oh, we loved to.

It was fun. But what I've noticed as watching him play, I'm like, uh, he, use a different phrase, but I'm like, they also just say sack. They just say, they say sack. Like we're going to go play sack, which is hilarious.

Actually, I like that better. That's funny to me. And also like, we always played after the three hits or four hits or whatever it is. Then you get to burn someone. Three sack whack. And that was the game to me. It wasn't the playing the hacky sack. It was getting to pelt the living hell out of someone.

And then we would get certain hacky sacks that have like thick beat. You know, yeah, there's one that have like, keep one that almost came like from like marbles. Hut. Right. Yes. No, like you get the thick,

the ones with like the thick marbles and you can like murder people's skin with those things. And that was the fun part of Hackysack was, uh, like it was a dangerous game that it's like kids like someone's going to end up almost crying. Uh-huh. Yeah,

we did, we did some of that. But as time went on, like I had some buddies that got like really into it and it was like, oh, I know, you had like the tricks and the stalls and all this stuff. Well, That's what they do.

Like, you know, like they're playing, and they get it like on the back of their neck. And then they're literally doing, like, it's where like, no, one guy lays down and they get it on his chest and then they catapult him up and like get it off. Yeah, like they're doing a bunch of tricks. And I'm like, how long have you guys been, I've just, why am I just now picking up you guys are playing this?

And it looks like you're like Olympic level hacky sack players. Yeah, you know what's up actually. In our day, I'm like at a picture on the internet and decide what's possible or not. I'm like, you're missing the five. part where you like bring your friends to tears by pelting them so hard. Where's the pain involved here? There's no stakes. Yeah.

It's like you need to be a little bit nervous of if you're going to walk away from this looking like a punk or not. Like if a, because I also remember different ways. Like sometimes it's like once you got it, you couldn't move and you had to throw up from like that sort of position. Sometimes you got like two steps or something like that. We did not play that sophisticated levels of, yeah, hitting people. Yeah, we didn't get that far into that part of it.

I was mostly into that part of it. Yeah, I'll see if you can make your friends cry playing hacky sack. I also played it. We were, I was really little when we started playing hacky, like I was like probably we're playing it when I was like in second grade, maybe something like that. I remember being big when I was really little. We maybe did. The last time I remember getting into it was probably like my freshman year.

Okay, I never did then. We had a little run at it with some friends. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So that's the sack segment. Kind of a different sack. Yeah.

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