Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 530: The Minimum Requirements for a Good Barbell

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

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If you don't follow Massanomics, you all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massonomics. What's up, everyone? We're back for episode 530 of the Massonomics podcast. I know it's that number. because I just had to check as the intro was rolling. As Kaz was speaking to us,

I was verifying this is episode 530. The Massonomics podcast listened and viewed all over the world millions of times. The Massanomics podcast. My name's Tanner. My name's Tommy. I don't really like that intro. Here, but we don't really re-record things. You know what?

Actually, I thought of an intro for you. Okay. Do you have like some hype music for me? This will be like your intro. This will be like your intro. I think I got what you're thinking. I hope maybe like some music I could speak over though. I don't know if you.

Oh, do you have anything like some background? You know, like to. Ladies and gentlemen, the Massonomics podcast is now live. Your first host, he's so straight. He threw away all the bo bars in the gym. Tanner Bear! Is that good? Do you come up with that on the spot?

I was actually, I just thought about that one day. I thought it was pretty funny. I thought that was pretty funny. I'm like, damn, I feel like you didn't rehearse this, but that bobar comment was too good. I thought of it the other day and I just was like, well, I don't have a reason to say this ever. And then you just said the intro and all of a sudden,

I'm like, oh, here we go. He's so straight that he threw away all the bo bars. Maybe it's, you know, like Chuck Norris, rest in peace. It's Chuck Norris jokes. But it's like, I'm so straight jokes. Yeah. You know. Tanner's so straight, he threw away all the bow bars in the gym.

And you can take it two ways. You could do things that are either straight or like that make even, that make me sound a little gay. He's so straight, he only eats the little baby carrots, not the big ones. Are we doing vegetables again this week? Is that where we're headed? I like that someone said like, What is it like 4,000 calories of broccoli is like 22 pounds?

You're 26 pounds of broccoli. Which is crazy. That's even, that's at least 20 more pounds than I would have guessed. I mean, I didn't think about it at all, but 26 pounds is too many. Also, broccoli doesn't feel that dense. I feel like volumetrically, 26 pounds of broccoli. Are we talking what? It's going to be like a pallet.

How many 50 gallon drums of broccoli would that be? Like would a 50 gallon drums of broccoli? gallon, how many, someone, Chad GPD to the rescue, how many, you know, what's the, the cubic area that 26 pounds of broccoli would consume? Or like how much, how much weight is there in a 50 gallon drum of, uh, the bed of one pickup truck is what it is. Yeah. Oh, wow. Uh, this week, though, so we did answer a bunch of questions last week. Wait, wait, wait, is this show brought to us by anybody? Oh, no, all of our sponsors, they said, yeah, we're good. All this vegetable talk, we're out, actually. No, we're good. Not. Great segue actually to our newest sponsor. This is

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And that ran a little long this week. And during the pre-show, I like to see all the participants' names. And some of them have handsome pictures of themselves there. But then when we go to the show, I pin you so they quit actually distracting me. And I hadn't done that. So I was still looking at all these names of people around here. See, I just have, I must be because I'm the host. I just have the sidebar of all the people on.

It doesn't show them on the screen anywhere. I'm not going to pretend to assume I know how Zoom works. I thought I knew how Zoom works and they changed everything like a month ago. And I'm just accepting the fact I have no clue how Zoom works. We used to be a proper country where Zoom was a little bit different. Yes, it was. Okay. Should we jump into a couple questions?

Well, do we have any housekeeping items? Well, I think we should mention our drop recap. We had a very well-referial. received drop this last week where we released two new tank tops. It was the Silly Goose Barbell Club on the TLT tank, and it was the Mass omics lifting department on the ice blue tank. And we hadn't released the tank top for several years. Those were both very well purchased, but the shining star of the drop had to have been the

brand new, unpaid and underrated comfort colors tea. It's almost gone. It's basically gone. It would be gone if my sizing predictions were, if I would have guessed just a little bit. Right. Only size is left. XL and 3X.

Everything else is out of there. Yeah. And that was just a few days ago that it dropped. So if you're an XL or a 3X, you could grab one of those or maybe squeeze or get something baggy, you know, like Matthias Cash. He always gets like a 2X shirt.

He does. So size is relative. Weight is a number. Size is a feeling. So that was the shining star The unpaid and underrated T designed by Big Joey's wife. Everyone loved that.

Back of it, super cool with all the locations that people are from. And then, oh, the sign. We do have a few signs left. If your legs ain't extended, then you're just pretending. Those actually sold well too, but we do just have a few of those left.

And those are not size dependent. They're one size fits most. You'd have to have like a really tiny walls for it not to fit on your wall. This is not that big. Like ants, ants couldn't put it on their walls. Yes.

Very, very small walls. So that was the drop. I'll mention this, the enhanced games. Did you watch the enhanced games at all, Tommy? I did not watch them at all. I caught some just very sporadic clips on the socials,

but I didn't watch them. Yeah. Did you watch them? I was doing a lot of order packing this weekend. And I put out in the, Discord as I was packing one night. I'm like, I thought the enhanced games was supposed to be today. Does it even know like what happened or where it was?

And like, oh, no, it's going. The deadlift is coming up soon. So then Big Doddzilla supporting member number one, he DM'd me and he's like, oh, the deadlift is soon. And I'm like, well, it's on now. He's like, no, it's one of the next event. And then he's like, well, it's actually like the third event from now. Like, can you just DM me when it's like actually when Thor and Mitch Hooper

are on the screen, like, headed to. towards a deadlift bar somewhere. Because I just, you know how these things go. They just drag that, like it's like the worst thing in the world is watching a fight. And you're like, oh my.

All the. Pony act leading up to it. It's 10 hours long. Yes. So he did. So yeah, I watched all three, all six deadlift attempts,

I guess, I suppose is. And you know that Thor didn't get, spoiler alert, cover yours if you don't know if Thor did not get $5. kilogram deadlift. I found myself really, really wanting him to get the deadlift. I was really

disappointed that he didn't. It's first time he's missed it in quite a while, isn't it? It is. And I don't know if that makes me a Thor fan or I'm just a fan of the whole thing and I just wanted to see him do well. And it just would, I'm like, I just wanted to watch the moment, I suppose. I was, I was most excited about like what his reaction is to getting it and what the, you know, does it feel cool in there? Is he rip his shirt off? We've seen him do that before. in person. It's just fun to see that after a successful world record. Were they billing this? See, I didn't really pay much attention at all. Were they billing this as like a strong man event or just a world record deadlift?

World record deadlift event. See, it makes you wonder like why I was Colton not a part of it then. Well, because he doesn't. It's a world record strong man. Okay, okay. So there is still the strong man part. Okay. Yeah, it was still called that. Yeah, I see. I understand. I didn't understand your question. Yeah. Yeah, you couldn't do sumo deadlifting in this. format as presented. But there wasn't like many records being broken or any, right? I don't think so. I don't.

Maybe there eventually was, but like, no, there was an underwhelming amount of records being broken. There were several PBs, or as we like to call them, PRs. The presentation of the whole thing wasn't bad. I don't know. It wasn't awesome, but it was decent. It was pretty good, I guess. Mitch Hooper was not even remotely close.

Like he was nowhere in the ballpark. Realistically, like he did, at least on that day, or with his limited training window for this after World Strongest Man, he realistically probably didn't have much business attempting a 515 kilogram deadlift. It became apparent because he opened at, I don't remember, 800 and some pounds. Then I think he went to 425, which would be, you know, 9.30 or 4, I don't know what, whatever that is. And it was not easy. Like, it was hard. Like, it looked like he didn't have much more than that based on that particular rep. Maybe

things change when he come up for the big one. But he jumped from 425. I think I have these numbers right, 2.5.15 for his third one. And there was never a way that that was going to go. It's a little bit of a jump. It was like a 160 pound jump from when you, you know, you're struggling on that one. I thought based on Thor's first and second attempts that he was going to get the 515. Yeah, I mean, he's been a lock lately.

He's always been good. He was close. It went to about his knees and it definitely, I think on any given different day, he may have gotten it. I just think it was just the stars need to align a little bit

and I don't think that they, I don't think that they did. Yeah. They obviously didn't, but I'm just saying slightly distant circumstances, he might have just got it. But it does make me wonder what do they do next? The enhanced games or? Well, yeah, in general, like he probably just wants to try and break this record again, I'm guessing. So is it via the enhanced games in some way again or?

Does you have to wait four years again for the enhanced games? Is it like the Olympics? I've got to do it once every four years. I'm really curious what the future of the enhanced games is there if that's kind of a one and done scenario or if something is penciling out there because they gave away a lot of money. Yeah.

They were giving away like a quarter of a million dollars to a lot of the winners of things. But wasn't part of it kind of like a marketing avenue for this like peptide company or something? I mean, I think that's mostly what it is. Okay, has there been like a shift in the words? But that being said, what is the peptide company even? Well, that, that.

And then has there also been like this shift where that I'm not aware of that I'm just catching up to them late to the party here where peptides just means anything you take? You can just say anything's a peptide. Like does that? I don't know well enough to know. That's not what I, I mean, you know, testosterone is not what I would consider peptides. Me either, but no doubt testosterone is a huge part of what people are taking going into the enhanced games, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, they're all like they were taking a whole bunch of what we would just call steroid.

Like that's my point. I don't know what the technology. I have absolutely no idea on the technical definitions, but in my mind, I separate peptides from steroids. You know, the most common peptides that I know about from all the people we talk to and all the various discussions over the year, it's BPC-157, and it's the other one, T, whatever,

and you do those together, and it's the Wolverine stack. And, like, the number of power listers we talk to that take that is, like, hundreds of them. And that's for just like, in theory, TB 500, there we go. Yeah, this Reda one is popular too that MoFo just mentioned and that's, I think, like, helps you cut down a little bit.

I don't know. I don't know that much about any of them. But no, I don't think when people say peptides, they're not referring to testosterone and deba. I don't think they are either, but the impression I'm getting is it's starting to just turn into this blanket thing where when people say peptides, they're just talking about anything, maybe more like general news cycles. I hear people, yeah,

teens and peptide use. And I almost feel like it's turned into just anything performance enhancing or anything that you take is falling under that blanket all the sudden. Yeah, that might be. But maybe that's me reading the room wrong. I don't know. Yeah. That was it. I don't know.

The swimming was barely interesting to me. Yeah. That was what it was on in between. And I'm like, I don't know. It's not the Olympics. I mean, as part of the problem, it's not to win a gold medal. It's not the people. Not really rooted for your country and that whole thing.

Yeah. Right. Enhants games. More like, wasn't that great. That was okay. I just wanted to see him get the deadlift and he didn't get it. What I was really thinking,

I'm like, why is it just two guys on the deadlift? Well, that's the other part that's covered. Like, there's a couple other guys out there that might be a little bit bigger deadlifters than Mitch Hooper, too. I'm like, there's probably a few couple guys that could have really give them that for a better run for its money. But I think part of the athlete choice is you're getting people in there. This is the funny thing about everything these days.

Like, if you're getting invited to this or hired for, I believe, a lot of things like this, they're looking at your social media. It's what your social media, yeah. Because you get 50 athletes that all have huge social media presence. you just created your audience. Yeah. Based on the participants. I've just listened to a podcast,

something totally unrelated. Someone was talking about now if you're trying to, you know, write a book, publish a book. The first thing they like is, what's your following like on social media? Like that's the first question.

Right. When you're new to the book game. And yeah, that's what, that's the built-in marketing. Yep. One other thing that I've watched a little bit of that I guess I haven't mentioned

on the podcast. that kind of remind me of it is American Gladiators with Boogs. I want to watch that. Yeah, I still have it. Yeah. Yeah, I've watched the first couple episodes, and that totally is what's going on there too. You know, a lot of those people have big followings. You know, I mean, there's more to it than that,

but certainly doesn't hurt. You get boogs who's got, you know, however many 100,000, and you get 10 other guys that also have, certainly have a few million that are interested in this right away just because of these people's followings. It's pretty good. I actually don't know.

I don't know. I'm very interested in it because since we know Rick the Stick, that I'm like super, like when I'm always just waiting for him to be on basically to see what he's up to and, you know what. And he's the total wild card, you know, with his antics and the way he cuts a promo. It's like the, is he like totally insane on there?

He tries to be, but they cut it out a lot. I think actually. I think you do, you only get a. taste. They dilute him. Because you know, like, because anyone that follows him outside of the show, because you know what he is. Like, you can still see, like, he's very close to it all.

It's always right around the corner. And I think he even mentioned that they cut out, like, some of his longer promos even to, or they cut him down just a really small section. And I'm like, dang it. Like, I just want to watch him rip on this for a while. Get the beer all of this, the stuff that didn't make the cut, get the extended cut.

Yes. Big James asked about boogs being a podcast guest. Definitely a chance of that. The more likely sooner scenarios that he would be a gym, the more likely sooner scenarios that he would be a gym tour at the Rats Nest at some point in time. I mean, absolutely very likely that that will happen at some point in time. Be a good one.

Yeah, so American Gladys, I would recommend watching it. It's pretty good. And then, like, Danny Spiegel is on it. Oh, she is. Yeah. Yeah. She's got a big following, obviously. And I don't know if I knew any of the other people.

Like, she was the only other one I would, like, knew who it was. Oh, the host is the Miz. I saw that too, yes. Or one of the hosts or whatever. Okay. Should we get to a few questions? Yeah, let's do it. I'm going to crack into a cold one here, though.

Oh, what do you got? Pink Apple and Lowe. lemon. Wow. What's that a Waterloo? Polar. Oh, polar. I've got a Waterloo. Lemon, Italian ice. Ooh. It's getting icy.

It's so icy. Did you ever have a grill? Like in my mouth. Yeah, like diamonds. No, I did not. Why did you? Diamonds on your neck. Diamonds on your grill. Okay. What are your, this is from big, Midwestern Dr. Jake, what are your next three big regional tours? Hmm.

Regional tour, well, I mean, you're giving us more credit for how far you think we plan this out. That's not typically how it goes. We don't know what our next three are. We don't actually know what our next one is. Not really, it's not planned. But I could name three that are all on our short list. You know, we're Texas, Florida, Pacific Northwest.

Arizona would be probably up there. Arizona. I mean, honestly, anywhere we could go, but those are all ones we've talked about more. And then also, I would just say, driving trip to like Minnesota or Iowa or, you know, those ones. Wisconsin kind of are the edge of Wisconsin.

Yeah, this edge, not the far edge. Those would be the most likely ones coming up soon. Although, that being said, it could be something in there completely not even any of those. Yeah. That's also not impossible. Like saying when you say Florida, Texas, Northwest, like we've had those three on our list forever. And just it's always like, oh, this seems like a good time to do this one.

And then it just something else pops up. When are you coming to check out the felt loads in Boston? So I guess that's the question is, well, we've been to Boston. We've toured Boston. But there's this effect sometimes when we go to our location. After we're gone, a ton more gyms pop up on Jim radar or our map, Boston being one of them that there is more than enough gyms there we haven't toured that we could go back for. The density of gyms in the Boston area is, I mean, they might be in a league of their own as far as just how many are right there.

Like they really have a lot packed in that area. So yeah, you could easily make another trip up there, no problem. From brute force and ignorance. Are there any gym radar vanity plates yet? Oh. Not that I'm aware of. I think that's one character too long. Well, Jim RDR works pretty good though.

Yeah, there you go. Let's cross my mind, you know. Just ideas for people. Throwing it out there. If MSS and MX is taken. Jim RDR, not the worst one. You can get the space in there. Yes.

From Joe, will I ever be able to comment on people, People's gyms on Jimradar.com. Totally original thought. Well, sit down, buddy. Your dreams are about to come true here. They are true. Yeah, Jim Radar. We, as of recording this, May 27th, we officially put the announcement out today that Jim comments are live and I got Jim Radder pulled up here and people are taking advantage of it. There's a lot of... Did we talk about the... Did we talk about the, Did we talk about that on last week's episode? No, we didn't.

That was in the pre-show, actually. Okay. Okay. Back it up. Back it up. I'm skipping ahead. So, yes, we are happy to announce the newest feature to Jim Radar is you can now leave comments on other people's gyms. You can leave comments.

You can leave comments. You can. Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention? Radar La. There is. I'm jumping ahead here. this week. There's always music to go with something.

But yeah, the comment feature we've been working on this behind the scenes for a little while now. We're excited to have it out there. And yeah, if you hop up on the old Jim radar and check it out on the MyRadar feed, you'll see comments now appear as blips in the feed. And yeah, there's a lot of comments taking place all the time.

I'm just looking through it right now. It just gets hard to get distracted. Just start reading through the comments. See another one's talking about in here. You can just lose hours of your day now. Yeah. Yeah, it's super cool. I really enjoy the comment feature.

I've used it a lot yesterday and today myself. I've left a lot of comments. People, of course, are leaving a lot of comments on our gyms and stuff. So obviously we're going to be active on it. I've been most interested in seeing how some other people have literally used this already. They're discussing. basically like there was these pent-up questions, I think, that people had. And they're like, oh, yeah, I started following your gym right away.

I love the way you did this with your rack set up, like what, and then questions X, Y, and Z. And then I've seen responding back and forth. And then some people that have like had to go, like, get together offline about this to discuss it more. And it's all because of the inspiration that they pulled from each other's gyms on Jim Radar. Just in the first day, I've seen. that, which is really cool. That's like a perfect, you know, proof of concept of it working the way we had hoped it would. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just another way to, you know, add some features,

add some social aspects to the Jim Radar, add some connection there. And also, we did put a video out on the Jim Radar YouTube channel that goes a little more in depth in all the features. I realized that after we put that up there that we forgot, I forgot to mention the part that you can turn comments on or off on your gym. Maybe I need to go back and add that as a comment underneath the YouTube video so people know about that. But that video is like seven minutes long or something. It goes in depth on all the comment features.

But yeah, you can comment to anyone's gym. As the owner of your gym, you can delete comments on your page or block users too if people are doing bad things. But it's a gym radar community. Everyone's highly vetted and very trustworthy there. I don't see that getting used a lot, but the beauty of it, it's there. So if you're someone, you know, if you have a reason to use it, it's there. And some people I can see just not wanting comments on their gym

and then you get to just turn it off altogether. Yep. It's also the start of a notification system where now when you leave a comment, it does the website does automatically send a notification email to someone to let them know that you have left a comment. So you don't have to worry about missing things. It does also when you're logging. You can turn that off if you want to go to them.

Yeah, you can turn that off. And then when you log into the site, you do have a little notification drop down where you can check your notifications and see what's been going on. Okay. Sweet. Jim Radar. I love what those guys are doing. They're doing the real deal.

Yeah. Okay. This is from Big Diet Coke Destroyer. Tommy, how does your hair stay so luscious and beautiful 24-7? Luscious and beautiful. Wow. And he didn't say woolly. I think the wool is implied.

Yeah. Yes, that goes without saying. You know, you just got a, I don't know, man. It's actually not as good as I catch myself. You have kids and all of a sudden it's like, oh, I can shower now at 10 o'clock at night. And when you have all this hair, you're like, no, I can't shower at 10 o'clock at night because I need to be awake for an hour because it's soaking wet forever. So then it's like, well, I'll just put my hair up. And now I've gone two days without washing my hair, which luckily curly hair, I think tends to be drier.

It doesn't really get greasy. So I have that going to my favor. So that's never an issue. But yeah, it just gets frizzy and disgusting now. but yeah, when it's good, you just get a good curl-focused shampoo and conditioner in your set. Like from Big D? Well, I did the one-time. No, that was a leave-in product.

She sent me the one time. But my wife got me hooked up. The curl relaxer. Yes, that's what it was. That's right. Yes. My wife got me hooked up with some good shampoo and conditioner. So I've been rocking that lately.

Brandon mentioned in our Discord live chat, he said, if he was Tommy, his hair would be made of wool. I mean, I'm well aware of that, yes. We all know that. This is from Hay Bupper. Well, here, very fitting next question. Under what circumstances would you consider cutting off your hair excluding diseases or illnesses? Important exclusion.

Diseases and illnesses are like you can't just get sick. Yeah, it's kind of forcing a hand there. So having a cold is not an acceptable reason. Oh, God, okay, I was worried. Yeah, I was worried that that cold was going to make me cut my hair. Probably at a point where it just gets shitty and bad enough that it just has to go, I guess. That would be the, you know?

That would be the time. Right? Wouldn't it be? I don't know. You've kind of been close, though, haven't you? Oh, I don't need much of a reason at all. I often think of it. I will say this.

It would make life a lot easier, that's for sure. I'll say, I'm not going to give anything away. But, you know, I could be due for a change one of these days. Tanner could just be reliving his Zoom work photo before you even know it. I'll say this. I have a plan, a secret plan. Oh, God.

I have a secret plan. I hate to even bring it up, but I do have a secret plan. So that's it. He has a plan. It is a secret. No one asks him about it because it's secretive. And just asking it makes it not secret. From Big Bo and me.

Are Keith's Lift Hardly Veezy 4 Strongman podium predictions confirmed by our Lord and Savior? Well, I'm not sure if that's confirmed. Keith might be listening. Is he listening live? They use making predictions on Instagram. I'll say this. It's anyone's a game at the Lift Hardly. It is.

Strongman. You know, some people really feed off that crowd. Some people do, and it's tough. Winning a strongman competition is not easy when there's a group out there. I'll say this. Rufless hecklers in the crowd. I don't think any of them, nobody's a lock because there's enough competitive people that if you screw up, you know, you give people an inch, they'll take a mile. Big Mike from Detroit for Tanner, what's the white whale of vintage plate that you're?

you want to actually get, I think is the question that I want to actually get. There's two of them that I want. It's the Gibson, which is a cross hub, and the Mars, which has the big M-A-R-S. That's the one Ephraun taught us about that had the story with like the two, you know, do you remember that story or something? I don't know. Like M-A stands for something in R-S-D or something else. Yes.

They like flipped over, the page was folded, and when they unfolded it, they saw the two guys and then realized. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Mark and something else. And that's what M.A. and the R.S. came from. The thing about both of those is they're both rather expensive. They're not as expensive as, you know, those first ever York deep dish. You know, the tall letter Yorks or Zoovers, but they're more expensive than I'm willing to pay. And I'm not willing to trade away a single thing also of value because, you know, it's what some people do.

You kind of trade up. You get stuff that's kind of valuable. And then other people want it and has like maybe a little additional trade value beyond what it's even technically worth. But my thing is I won't get rid of anything. I kind of thought that I was going to get rid of some things. And now I don't want to get rid of anything. So I don't really see where I get those because I don't really want to get rid of anything. and I don't want to spend that much money.

Regarding the Mars plates, though, or the other one, the Gibson ones, just to get an idea of the inventory that's out there. Like if you said today, I got the money, I'm ready to do it. Could you get some? Or is there just not even really examples? I don't know that I could on Dave. I mean, yeah, I could put out some contacts and probably get, you to see that picture of you in the discord of all the different potential

hair cells you could have. Wow. Okay. My wife would just freak out looking at that. I like the buzz cut one. Yeah, that's quite the look. I'm not sure that's how that looks, but, oh, okay, okay.

I kind of feel like I know who I'm looking at at the same time. I have no idea who I'm looking at here. That upper right corner is certainly a hairstyle I've had before. I mean, a lot of people have had that hairstyle that have short ones. Also the bottom right corner, definitely a hairstyle. Yeah, the bottom middle is kind of a David Spade type look, and I don't know if I'm pulling that one off.

And the top one comes off very feminine to me, which is odd because it's almost the same hairstyle I have, but it just looks like a woman's hairstyle. It looks a lot more feminine. I thought that about the, I kind of thought about the David Spade one, too, that I'm like, something about that hairstyle looks very feminine to me. Maybe I just make hair look more feminine.

Well, not in the one that's yours or the, two on the right hand side, but there's two in the middle. It's like, it's like, I don't know if it's in a way of like, oh,

I have to face what that's, like, is that what I would actually look like with short hair? It's like this, this like facing reality moment of this life of, for some reason I don't think that that's what you,

I don't know why. I don't think I do either, but like it is my face, though. I know. What is AI doing here? It almost, like you can't tell me the top middle

and the bottom right are the same face. Like they are, but they're not. Right, right. Yeah, actually. I don't get it. It's just breaking my brain right now. Yeah.

I mean, the bottom left is obviously a no in every scenario. Yeah. How don't even know what you'd call it? Oh, okay, yeah, that's, I wasn't looking at that big enough. Okay, that's braids. Yeah. What were we talking about? Oh, just plates.

I did just get a set of Berg handtel plates added to the wall. Oh, yeah. Did those pop up out of nowhere? I bought those a long time. I bought those a long time ago as a guy in Minneapolis that had them, and my wife was in, my wife was in Minneapolis. So I had them meet up and she snagged them for me.

All right. Let's see. Here's a great question. From Sully McSullivan. For the virtual lift hardly easy interest, is it in the rules to do all lifts on the same day like a traditional meat? Wow. That is not expressly written in the rules.

But I feel like it's in the spirit of the country. is one week. I tell you what, we're not going to turn you down if you don't do it. I think it's great if you do them all in one day. I think you should try if you can. Yeah. If you can't do it, that's okay. Do them all in that week and submit it.

We're not going to blacklist you from the competition or anything like that. But the ideal scenario is that you do all three in one day. Yeah. It's in the spirit of the rules. It also is a good little test for you too. Yeah. I think so. Try and make yourself do it if you can.

From Big Curd, which post-Tyler podcast episode would you replace with a one-hour leg extension montage? He's saying post-Tyler. So we can't say, we can't say Julian Pinot episode. Okay, yeah. So something after like 100 or after, yeah.

Yeah, 128 or whatever. Would we replace with a one? Probably one of the worst audio ones. Yeah. Like, was there one in there where we had audio problems? I mean, I know there was more than one where there's like there's several guest audio issues. Yeah, the guest audio issues. That one's always a little tricky.

There was the one. One, I think we had bad audio issues. Like right before Black Friday one time, I think. Yeah. I think your mic wasn't working or something. Something like that. Yeah, we just picked up the, your sound was picked up from my mic, which was bad. This is a really good question from recentonomics.

Okay, just wait, just wait. What did recent dynamics have that just shocked me because it was so. funny. Do you know what I'm talking about? They just had something the other day. Maybe I'm overhyping this year. I'll have it here in just a second. Maybe it wasn't funny. It was, oh, okay. It's pretty, yeah, it was on the, it was this like caption. It's looking forward to changing my status to open to working out on the lifting portion of Jim Radar. Oh, wow. Oh, yes, that's right. Yes.

Yeah. That is pretty funny. Yeah. I like that one. I also like the Massonomics crew, Gazi and distribution, the silly lifting stuff. And then I've got to do all the crew things and then silly lifting stuff. Deep, deep jokes there. Also, there's the one where you've, can I only assume you've never watched Yellowstone?

You can assume correctly, yes. But you may even know this reference. It's like taking someone to the. train station from Yellowstone means murdering them and dumping their body somewhere. Okay. More or less. And the one that he posted was a click of, I think it's a rip is his name in there. He was the take the guys to the train station guy.

And it was a picture of him. And he was like, I'm going to take you to see Julian Pinot. Okay. I saw that, but I didn't get the, it was funny without even knowing the joke. Yeah, it's like, basically it's like Tyler left to the bottom. Like, we made Tyler go see Julian to know. like essentially we drug him out and somebody shot on that. Okay, I had no idea what that meant.

I'm looking at it right now. I had no idea what that meant. I'm like, oh, this is kind of funny, and I didn't get it, and I still thought it was funny. Because what is it really good? I'm taking you to see Julian Pinot. Isn't that what it was or something? Yes, I need you to take him to see Julian Pinot.

Wow. Oh, I didn't ask the question, though. I almost skipped it, And I did, this was a good question. What one piece of gym radar info do you wish you had back when you started your gyms? Oh, like if, okay, yeah, yeah, if we're, if we're, if we're build. Yeah. Man, I think, I just really think that now see, well, there's two things.

One, being able to look at people's gyms because when I started mine, I knew there was guys out there that had really cool gyms. And it was just, I was like on Instagram doing like hashtag home gym, hashtag garage. gym. And that was the first time I saw it, nice like Mike. That was the first time I ever saw his gym because it popped up on a hashtag. And then it was funny,

random to do him at Home GymCon like a month later or something. Yeah. So like it would just be having the image gallery for some inspiration to see what people are doing, how things are set up. I specifically remember going and watching Brandon's videos. I'd watch them, you know,

throughout the years, but never paying that close of attention when I don't have a home gym. And I remember going back and going to different spots where he'd have his camera set up and screenshoting it just so I could pause and look at all the stuff he had and try and figure out what was going on. So I remember doing that. So looking at pictures would be incredibly helpful. The other really big one would just be to see the top equipment list. Yeah. Like that just narrows, narrows down. I mean, we just actually, it gets you so you can't miss. Like, you're not going to miss. I don't, we, you know,

we, you still got a few decisions to make about what's right for you in terms of, of price and size and X, Y, and Z, but it gets you right in the ball. Like, it narrows your focus really fast. It does. Well, and even, you know, Massonomics didn't have a ton and still doesn't have much for rep stuff in it. You know, there's just not much. I actually know.

There's just like hardly anything from rep in Massanomics. So. And there's a ton of rogue stuff. Yeah, there's a ton of rogue stuff. And also, if you ask me what company, company I kind of like better, it's rep, you know, just for our interactions we've had with them over the years. But I don't have that much. Yeah.

And but with that, so I didn't have much like any experience with the rep stuff. I'd never really used it before. And when I start looking at benches, you just see the AB 5200 popping up. And I'd never used it. And it's one of those things where it's like, well,

is this just one of those benches people just recommend just because, like is it the real deal? And you know, I send some DMs to people and they're like, no, no, it's good. It's good. But now when you go and just know that now.

on Jim right. Yeah, you just go, it's like, it's a fact. Just you look in there and we talk about this like seven of the top ten or rep. It's like, yeah, they know what they're doing. You don't get to that point by having a bad product. Right. Kind of, I think the reason I don't own very much rep stuff is because it's not that they didn't exist. But actually at the time when I made a lot of those major purchases, they really didn't exist like they do now.

They were a different company then. They really were. Right. Right. You know, they didn't sell barbells and benches and rackers. They were a totally different company who's. They sold. I don't know.

Just barbells, benches and racks. Yeah. Okay. For me, that's a really weird scenario because I started the gym so long ago. Gym Radar then couldn't have really existed. No, because then the name of the game was like, oh, what used stuff can you find? Yeah. That was right.

It's actually so, it's funny how many of the things in the very first gym were just like, no, there's no brand. This is just someone made this thing. Most of the things. Yeah. Like what can you name a brand? The big white rack. Was that a Sybex rack? That's that Sybex.

Yeah. But the one rack in the corner, the Larry special. That was a... Well, that's technically a BFS or BS. Oh, it is? Yeah. That half rack was? Yeah.

Oh. The Larry rack. That went to Jake. Yeah. And then from Jake, I think, doesn't Ben Bile has that have that now? Someone might know. Okay. I thought that was a homemade rack.

But that bench, that was a homemade bench, though, wasn't it? Well, the flat bench is that blue and gray one with the blue pad. That people just sit on. Like, it's just a, it's literally. Well, yeah, that, that, yeah, that flat bench. But then like the bench that we had. No, there was that super heavy ass one that was way heavy. And it had a squishy black pad on it.

No, I'm talking about the actual bench bench like that. Oh, the bench. Kind of the competition style. Yeah, that did not have a brand on it. Yeah, that was. was homemade. Not a bad bench though. No, that was a good, I remember at the time thinking this is the best bench in the world. This thing's amazing. It was the first bench that was actually competition with that we'd

use. I see what you're saying. Yeah, that no, no, I do not think that that was a brand. Yeah. Do you know what brand the lap pulldown is? I have no idea. Okay, that was another one. I mean, that is a brand, like that's not homemade. Some factory made it. So I would love to know. Yeah. It's a great lap pulldown machine. Uh-huh. It's, can, take a lot of abuse. Like I can verify that. It's extremely heavy too. Okay.

What is the weirdest piece of equipment someone has requested to add to Jim Radar? It's kind of tricky because sometimes people put joke suggestions in. Yeah. That are intentionally bad. Like we're obviously not going to add. Oh, no. Like legit weird. Yeah.

Because most of it just like it fits into the gym equipment bucket. I don't know. Maybe some of the more fringe stuff starts to be things that are like, is this a grip thing or a rock climbing thing? Right. It starts to just be like, because you don't want to fill the website up with rock climbing stuff. But some of that does have some crossover appeals.

There's always a little bit of a debate there. So, yeah, it gets tricky. Same thing with some recovery things, because we're not really doing recovery stuff now, but we have a few items kind of in there. Right. That's, that's more where it falls. It's just, is it part of an allowed category or not?

Yeah. Should we do supporting our supporting members and maybe kick off the live listeners while I do that? Good call. Okay. Several supporting members to support this week. This is a relatively new segment of the podcast. It's just the 30th time that we've done it here in season two of the show. It's where we give back to those that support us.

We had a whole bunch of new supporting members sign up here recently, which is awesome. love to see the new ones. We're also stoked about the people that have been around for a long time. We love all of you equally. It is just based on your tier, like the highest tier people we love the most. Equally based on how much you want to contribute. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're in the $3 level, we love you, just not as much as we love the people in the $6 level. But all the people in $6 level, we love you all the same, just not as much as we love the people in the $20 level and so on. I mean, you... It's pretty simple. People get out. works.

Yeah, you basically buy our affection is how that's working. No, that's kind of a joke, kind of. And then you get a whole bunch of stuff in return. And one of those things is making it on to supporting our supporting members. Another one of those things is our crew mailer, which we are, I have a whole bunch of envelopes that are ready to go. It should be, I'm not going to mail them until they're all 100% ready. but hoping within, I don't know, what do I want to say here?

Six to 12 business weeks. Yeah, I would really love a week from now if they were all out in the mail. That'd be sweet. Not positive if we're going to hit that deadline or not, but that would be great, which would mean by June, middle of June everyone would have theirs. Or actually I'd say like 90% will have them. I literally get this. Today.

I got one returned in the mail from the... No. Like, I period. I've... I got one return two weeks ago, one just today. Okay, what was that from? It's right here. Yeah, but what was that mailing from actually?

Well, I... Where do I have those? They're literally like... Is this the trading card one? Yeah, the trading card ones. Wasn't that from... Wasn't that from like last August or last July? This one I got two days.

It was sent to Big Piney, Wyoming. Let me see if I shipped this or I mailed this on October 7th. It just got returned to me today. To be fair, Wyoming's really far away. It only borders us on one edge. So what's our number of months then? Is it October, January, February, March, April, May versus over half a year to get back to me. Damn. I've got several of people to claim from the last one. So when I said they're all going to get to people, that's not true. Like 90% of them are going to get to you and then, you know, with dealing the numbers we are about 70 are going to get sent back to me.

So if you never got your trading cards and you were a supporting member, let me know. We need to discuss your address and I could get it back to you. But that's insane. One just came back today. I was like, whoa, what is going? Why did this come from? I thought for sure some of the post office would go seven months ago,

throw that in the shredder. Yeah, no, that's wild. Supporting our supporting members, Big Chris Ringo got engaged. I think we know the follow up to that. Congrats on the funeral. Yes, congrats on the impending funeral. Big Holland passed his CPA exam, or at least the portions of the exam he was taking this time first. There was a Pacific Northwest crew meetup, including Big Matt, Big Pablo and Big Joe. There was also a Michigan crew meetup this weekend,

including Big Peter, Big Tyler T, Big Wally, and Big Bear Shark. When I say there's a crew meetup, a lot of times what happening here is they're getting together at one of the person's houses, and they're all getting together to lift. And these are all supporting members that know each other through Massonomics, possibly through the gym radar certified training facility map, that sort of stuff.

And most importantly, getting together to have a good old time. Yeah, they're having fun. They're wearing their Masonomic shirts. they're having fun. And the largest meetup that these all took place simultaneously on the same day just throughout the country. There was the crew England crew met up. It was at Big Chris's.

God, that looked fun. That looked fun. I was so jealous. I was too. I'm like, I'm jealous of all those crew meetups look like a blast. They do. I think what makes the Chris one worse is we've been there and we have met basically all those

people. So it's like, oh, just pop us in. We're ready to go. It's still the oddest thing. when they post their group picture, and it's like so weird how we know all those people, but that they're all together in place and without us. It was a big Chris, big Waffarn,

big Steve, big Jose, big Derek, Brandon, big Adam, and big scantz made the trip down. Oh, yeah. What a light up again. What a crew, huh? Yeah. Big spicy peas. spotted and loaded at the Midwest Fitness Fest.

Nice. Big Debo coached the girls tennis team to their 16th straight sectional championship. What? Yeah, sectional champ. Damn. Big Zahn bought his first house. Congrats. Welcome to home owners just around the corner.

You know what that means. You can't spell home gym without home. Get a gym radar account. Here we go. Yeah. unpaid and underrated guest this week was none of the other than Big Scott, who he met at the Arnold this year. He came out to the Eagle.

He came in his wife for there, and they're both competing in the powerlifting meet at the Lift Hardly, Veezy Classic. Hell yeah. He was this week's guest on unpaid and underrated. We call that our braddy little sister podcast. Also this week, I haven't listened yet, but on half-baked thoughts, half-baked training thoughts, We call that our drunken uncle podcast.

The guest was Big Jess. So, yeah, on our drunken uncle podcast. Keith says there was four guys that did a strongman show in Utah. I don't know the deeds on that. You know, here's a public service announcement. When everyone goes, all the sporting members go into our competitions and supporting members. and supporting member channel and talk about other stuff for hours on end.

It makes it really hard for me to find the... To give credit where credits do. Yes. Oh, yeah. Okay, here we go. This is another crew meet of sorts. I must have missed this because there's so much other stuff there. Matt Sundling, Big Ben Bile, Sterling.

Who else? There was a fourth crew member there that all met up. And I think they all did Strongman together. Strongman meeting. They were like on a hike together. Yeah, where was that at? He says Utah. Was it really all the way in Utah?

Oh, why were they down there? I don't know. Is that right? I don't know. Because I remember seeing that picture. I seem geographically odd for Matt out of, I mean, they could have all went there. But Sterling's in North Dakota. Matt's in Omaha, Ben's and Pier.

Yeah, that's a trip. Yeah. Someone let us know if they know who the fourth person is. We'll shut him out. Did I say Big Jess was this week's guest on the Drunken Uncle podcast, have big thoughts? You did, yes. Okay.

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Certified training facility of the week. I actually have... Sponsored by our friends at Jim Radar. By the fine folks over at Jim Radar. We don't know who they are or who's behind it, but we love what they're doing. Yep. Okay.

I actually have an interesting one this week. All right. Finally. It closes, yeah, finally. It Jim, we're looking at it. It closes a loop. I don't know if you remember. It was like four or five weeks ago.

I had a gym and then you had one. And I'm like, oh, yeah, no, it's fine. I'll remember this one. And you said your gym. And I never remembered it again. I could not remember. And then just this week during one of the 50 times during the day that I checked the my radar feed on Jim Radar, I saw the photo and I went, boom, that is the gym. That is the gym.

That is the gym. Yes. The gym is Odin's powerhouse. Right. Let's look at Odin's powerhouse. What am I doing here? Where is this gym? Pierland, Texas, Pearland.

I don't know how they say it down there. How do you spell Odin? O-D-E-N. O-D-I-N-S. Oh. My spelling is not very good. By the beard of Zeus, I found Odin's powerhouse. Wow.

I've never looked at this gym on. gym radar. Nice, isn't it? Wow. This is something. I'm going to give this the official certified training facility of the week and it's got it. All right. Well, should we hop right into this gym? Yeah, let's look. Wow. So we're in Texas. Odin's powerhouse. The owner is also Odin's powerhouse. They don't have a bio for the gym. They don't have any equipment list or gym list or reviews. So a bit of a mystery there, but their top brands are rogue, ghost, and force six, and they have 55 pieces of equipment in the gym. But most importantly, they have some bomb-ass photos in here. Yeah. And I'm looking at the first one. And I'm not even totally sure where to

start with this, Tanner. So it is, wait, what is this? Is it a garage? I didn't look. Yeah, we're in a garage here. Okay. So looking at the first photo. it's mostly blacked out. So the ceiling's white, the walls are all black, floor is black because of, you know, maths of some kind.

But they have all, mostly red racks in here. And the red accent is used pretty heavily throughout the gym. And it's a very red and black color scheme. And it looks really good, doesn't it? It does look really good.

It looks great. Yeah, like I am a big fan of the look they got going on here. Yeah. And photo, okay, there is a lot to take in. So maybe we just, we'll go to photo two. So they have a, that is a rogue, is it a Monster Light?

Fourpost rack there. They have the FM6 twin functional trainer, but that's not that, right? No, because there's, that's the one on the other side. Yeah. So that one there, what is that? I think it's a Monster Light rack, it looks like. Okay. That makes sense to me.

No, no, that's a monster rack. Yeah, it's got the keyhole design or whatever. Okay. They got the mono arms. The rack is, it's the RM4 Monster Rack 2.0. Okay. Oh, then do they got a rhino off the back of that too? Is that what I'm seeing there?

Oh. Yeah, they got the rhino in there behind it. Yep. Yep. And then is that the Manoray bench, I believe, too, in black and red? I don't know if we've really ever came across one of those before. Maybe one or two. The Manta ray bench. Isn't it?

It is the Manta ray adjustable bench. Yeah. Also, you do not see this very often. See how they have those mini cross members on the, like cross member headers on the rack there where it says Rogue. Yeah, what is that? Oh. You don't see that very often.

What do you mean? What picture are you looking at, number two? Yeah, number two. See in the bottom of that rack, the cross member on the bottom, it has like the, header, but it's like a mini version. Oh, I don't know if I've ever seen that. I think Mark in Florida might have those on his rack and his

crazy set up there. But yeah, I have not seen those very often before. That's like 4-1-1 Mark? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Okay. But that is not something you run across too often. So that's cool to see.

It's got the mono arms. I got a full, looks like calibrated ghost set. And I can't tell in the back if those are ghost bumpers back there or not. I bet they are. Look at his weight plates. He's got a few different weight plates. So, yeah, he's got the ghost strong calibrated kilos. Yes, he's got ghost strong competition bumpers as well.

Okay. It's also got some American barbell urethane bumpers. Yeah, some really good stuff. I'm looking at the next photo now. Oh, we got a ghost combo even. Damn. Yep. And look at that ghost chalk bowl back there, too.

Oh, those things are sweet, aren't they? He's got some legit stuff in here. Holy cow. A lot of. Wow, these bars got a really nice bar collection here. Looks like some Texas power bars or some Texas bars. I don't know what these ones on the top are. If there's some, this one has like a green look to it,

but it's like a kind of a brighter green. Then the one kind of reminds me the Blaze Fitness. It has like the blue sleeves on there. I don't know if that's what it is or not. Yeah, I don't know. It is an interesting collection of bars, though. A lot of different colors there, which is cool to see. Next photo.

Oh, we got some on it, kettle. bells. It looks like that's like the superhero line, whatever that's called. Yeah, you can see those ghost calibrated plates. We got a rogue urethane dumbbell set too. Yep. He's got that Sorinax desk organizer thing. Yeah. You ever seen that before? I don't think so. It's what it is. It's like an organizer from Sorinac's thing. I'm sure it was cheap. Um, no. And going to the next one, yeah, what do we got here? The rogue functional trainer. Yeah, that's the FM 6 twin functional trainer.

With some weapons sitting inside there, too. Oh, yeah. And he's got all the premium rogue attachments on there. There's some slingshots. He's got that on the platform, too. Or is that part of just the same platform? He's got a bolt, like a bolt utility bench there. You see that?

Oh, yeah, the 90 degree bench, basically, yeah, the utility seat. Yeah. All right. And the last photo. What is this leg press we got? A bolt? It's not on here. I don't know for sure.

It says bolt on the side. Isn't it a bolt based out of Texas? I don't know. I think they are. He needs to add it to his gym radar, though. Looks like he's got some strength coat plates on that thing, too. Oh, are those strength code 25s? It looks like, yeah.

Nice. Can tell by the way they're smooth yet easy to. grip. So that's a bolt fitness leg press hack squat combo or is it just a leg press? That is a good question. I'm not totally sure if that's a combo unit or not. Don't know the answer. He's also got the Temple of Gaines multi-flight behind it.

Yeah, the multi-flight is tucked back there. And we did miss it. Photo 1, actually, there is a TV. And in front of the TV, you can see there is a bolter there. Oh, yeah, he's got some mounts there, doesn't he? And is it the Velocador maybe or is it the mutant metals one down there? He's got the rogue Arnold plates up there displayed too. This is a sweet gym.

Yeah, this is a really good gym. Oh, also, is that a Sorenex preacher curl bench? Yeah, I think that that's what that is. Wow. That's a premium piece. Yeah. Do you think you could get strong, though, in Odin's powerhouse? Oh, hell yeah.

Yeah, we're getting strong for show in Odin's powerhouse. Let's see. Do you got some live listeners to get out of here still? Yes. Give them the boot. Tried something different there. We'll see it this week. I actually did a screen recording when I'm talking about those photos.

So it could be different than the normal presentation. It could be even bigger, better, and crazier than ever before. All right. From big band of druthers, he says, Lift Hardly, V'seC cottage cheese eating contest directly before or after finishing the 50 Cal

challenge. I don't know which of those would be more. Let's see. Eat the cottage cheese right before or right after. The thing about doing it after is you could technically go as slow as you want it. Yeah. Yeah. You'd still be like, I mean, you'd be sick.

During before would be just absolutely disastrous. I mean, there's just no way you're keeping it down, right? Yeah. No, no, no. Okay. Big, uh, Megan from the gym says, what is the seated leg extension of the upper body? the seated leg extension of the upper body. Is it maybe like a tricep overhead,

like a seated overhead tricep extension? I think if you're going like by the actual body, like what you would say, you'd have to say a machine tricep, you know, because the tricep is. No, like I agree with you. Yeah. I think you're more right though.

Yeah, it probably should be a machine of some kind. Yeah, a machine. But if you're really going to put like, but also, I think you could look at it two ways. That's one way. It's like, okay, the seated leg extension, I would pick a seated selectorized tricep extension

because your tricep, you know, would be performing the same job that your quads are performing. But if I'm just going by pure feels, because like nobody has that machine. You know what I'm saying? Nobody? Well, not nobody, but like that's not a machine anyone's getting. No, no, that's just in a commercial gym is the only,

Like nobody has that machine in their home gym, a seated. You know, I've used those before, like where you do a seated tricep extension. So I would just go completely alternative. To me, it's like just based on pure feels. I would say it's the peck deck or what would be another upper body machine. It's not a lap pull down for me. That doesn't equate to it at all. I would say it's more like a peck deck fits the vine.

more to me. I think it does actually. Yeah. You can just be really, really on your ass doing the thing. Right. Like that's the criteria. Like you got to be sitting on your ass.

It's a machine. Also makes you not. And like everyone does it. Yeah. And you're not using too much of other body parts too. Right. Right. It's pretty.

Targeted to one. Yeah. Targeted. Yeah. I actually think that's a pretty good answer. I do like that. That's good. Okay.

Next question. Did Tanner ever end up buying an open powerlifting shirt? This isn't a big, Kyle, an open powerlifting shirt, or is he still running the numbers? I'm still running on the numbers. I'd like to know, can you buy an open power lifting shirt now? I don't think you can anymore. I'm looking right now.

You know, open powerlifting used to provide us a stat of the week. Well, they used to do that, of course, but they used to be active on social media. Yeah, they don't do that anymore. No, if you go to their shop, it is not open at the moment. Okay. So what, like open powerlifting, it's still, it's still all, you know, as accurate as ever has been, but I think so. It's kind of disappointing that they quit, but maybe they just decided, no, that's not what we're for. Well, I think it was mainly Tristan was doing all their social posting.

Right. And he got out of it. The second he got out of it, they just basically never posted again. Yeah. He's a current supporting member, though, isn't he? I think so, yeah. He's a supporting member. Speed bump media

Most annoying Jim saying Kind of didn't we do a tier list about that? We did. We did do a tier list. I don't remember what the final results were. I'd say see the tier list. Yeah. You just have to see the tier list.

Go to that back to that episode. Do you all prefer front squat or SSB? I bought a SSB and I'm not sure where it fits in. Well, I'm not sure I'd say that they're I mean, they're two different things. Yeah, you say, which do you prefer, though? I mean, I do prefer SSB just because it's more comfortable. By far.

Yeah. I think fronts, I hate front squats and I think they have a great place in training. Oh, I absolutely hate them. I love the feeling of front squats. I do. I think they feel great. It's the, once you really start going heavy, the feeling of not choking yourself out is the part that gets really tricky.

from Big J. Sletcher. Convinced my wife, the Ramcota is a cozy place, and she won't be murdered or get bedbugs. Definitely won't get murdered there, no doubt. There's no way to get murdered there. The murder rate in Aberdeen is extremely low. Yeah, there's nothing to worry about from a crime standpoint there. Yes.

The only crime being committed is people having too much fun. That's all I had to worry about. In that case, lock us all up and throw away the key, am I right? the bedbugs, I mean, I'm going to imagine there's no bedbugs. I think it's probably good on that. Yeah, I think you're fine. The Ram Coda, or wait, is that what is, yeah, it's still called the Ramcoa. Sometimes it get confusing on the name.

The best Western Ramcota could really use a facelift, particularly like on the exterior of the belly. Not even so much a facelift is just maintenance. Yeah, yeah. Interior-wise, I did have a room there last year that we did some stuff by the pool, And it was not bad. Like the room wasn't bad. You're talking to guys that spend a lot of time in holiday inns on the road.

Holiday Inn is aptons. That's true. The convention center area is not bad. None of it's that bad, I don't think. The exterior could use a little maintenance, though. Okay. Next question. Will there be youth t-shirts available at the Lyft Hardly Veezy?

Will there be extra smalls available? Yes, we were just talking about this this week. These extra smalls are there, and we order extra with the idea that that is what some children will be buying. Yeah. Big Lucas Johnson, would you rather give up drinking from the hose outside or give up nerling? Boy, I don't know. Something about giving up drinking from the hose. It's just, you know, it's summertime around here.

And every time I go outside, that hose, it's like it's just staring at me, just daring me to drink out of it. drink me. That's all I can hear. Drink from me. Reminds me Sack segment time. I got a little something here. Does this have a note?

Okay, it does. All right. Tommy and Tanner, may your legs extend. May your loads be felt. May your water taste of hose and your country be proper. Lift hard,

live easy. Now you can enjoy hose delivered water on the go at the gym or in the car. Leave in direct sunlight for several hours at 110 degrees and enjoy from the Pacific Northwest crew. There's one for you and one for me. It is a section of hose with cap on both ends. On this side it says Pacific Northwest. 2026. This is number one. And this holds 3.5 fluid ounces is what they're saying.

It's like a shot. This other one, I would assume it's Pacific Northwest. This is number 10. Well, what's the numbering? I don't know what number one and number 10. What does it mean? Oh. Oh, and they spelled H-U-E-E-A-.

S with an um-lot. It's a hoose. So 3.5 of a straight-up garden hose. Damn. So you'd fill this up with water. Well, leave it in the sunlight. Wait, there's no water in it right now? Well, I don't know.

I kind of got the impression from the note that it sounded like they shipped it with water in it. You think it's got water in it? Yeah, didn't they say leave it outside? Well, I don't think there's water in it. It doesn't feel like there's water in it. Okay. It's screwed on pretty tight. I don't know if you would drink from the plug end or the cap end too.

That's the question. I guess to make it feel like a normal hose, like when you're at home, you'd take the cap off because that's going to be the end. You would drink off when it's a hose. Right. Yeah. So I'll have to get this to you.

Some fine drinkwear there. Yes. Do you want number one or number 10? You know what? You can surprise me. I'll preheat yours. You can surprise me as long as it's hot. That's all I care about.

So thank you to the Pacific Northwest crew. Okay. Would you, okay, did you decide then? Would you rather give up the hose or the nerling? I'd rather give up the nerling. I need my hose. From Big Joey of Rogue Fitness, would least fun, most fun, recording the Massonomics podcast for 10 plus years.

Least fun, most fun. I mean, the most fun of recording it, right? Like, it's always fun to record these, right? Yeah. The least fun. There are some weeks where I do not look forward to editing it, not like it takes me a long time. It's just another thing on the list.

It's just another thing on the list. And lately, that's turned into my Sunday morning activity. And believe it or not, sometimes Sunday mornings, we have other activities. And so it can turn into a little bit of a fiasco, but that's the least fun part. Do you have a least fun to add in there? Um, I really like or dislike the, yeah, I mean the same sort of thing, same idea.

I dislike the whole, we use what, uh, what's our hosting service? Oh, Libson for that. Libson. I dislike the whole posting on that, putting on our website. It's just tedious. It's just the tedious crap. Yeah. And it's just you literally do it every week.

Forever. For over, for over a decade and no time of ever stopping it. Yeah, so nothing to do with recording the podcast. It's the other stuff that goes with it probably. Big Joey asks, what's the best seated lift for a strong man competitor in terms of felt weight slash strength curve? Oh, first. Okay. Strong man competitor.

Well, I still think it might just be the leg extension. I mean, really can you argue with the classic? All right. I mean, you might see the classic misnomer there as a strong man might think. well, I'm a strong man. I need to be training event specific. No. Stick to the basics.

The leg extension is, you know, you don't need, if you're not, don't have a level, a base level of strength built off of the leg extension, training an event only does you so good. Like you need to build the strength. You're building on a shaky foundation. Right.

From Big Chris, you can only have one for the rest of your life. You can only have one for the rest of your life. beer or cheese. Oh, okay, that is kind of tricky because I really do like cheese. Cheese is really good. And it would suck to give that up. But something about when a beer hits right, it really hits right, you know?

Yes. I would not be, I would choose to keep the cheese. because I have cheese every day. Yeah, I have cheese pretty much every day too. And cheese is good in many forms. It's well, shapes and sizes. I don't consider cottage cheese count.

No, I don't count that. I'm saying more traditional cheese. It is cheese though, right? Like it literally is called cheese. Well, from a cottage variety here.

Yeah. I don't count that in there. But, boy, I really don't even drink beer that much, but it would say, suck to give up. Like it's like, okay, going forward.

I thought that you can never have one. Going forward, you get wine or liquor. Yeah, that's like what you just do. It's fine, but it's not a bruce. It's not a brucho. I'd rather have a beer. It's. Yeah.

It's not a nice cold brew chow. Tanner's giving up cheese. I have always said, I don't trust a man that won't have a beer with exactly. People can't trust me anymore. I guess if Tanner's giving up beer, then I'll have to give up cheese. I'm keeping beer. Sounds like we both lose.

What do you consider the bare minimum checks for a barbell to the average new home gym owner? Like I say the bar minimum like checklist of probably. I mean, honestly, most of the bars out there that you buy new from any reputable company are good. They are. Like they are. The problem's kind of been solved there. Yes. It's just they're all pretty good.

Okay. Here's my bar. Here's my checks. Don't get the one with the Allen bolt at the end of it. That's what I was going to say. If you're a guy, get a bar that weighs 45 pounds. There you go. That's a bare minimum check.

Yeah, like this is the actual list. Get one that weighs 45 pounds. Preferably has ring marks on it. So you know where your hands go. Yes. For me personally, like a center in Orleans kind of a bare minimum check. Yeah. Like it's not an absolute requirement, but for me that would be a bare minimum.

Yeah, don't have the hex bolt in the end or whatever. Those would be the bare minimums. And then if you're buying. a power bar from insert one of 50 companies for your home gym, you're going to probably have a pretty nice bar. Like there's levels to it. Yeah. Still, but even actually really, they're all pretty good quality. The biggest difference is just the, how aggressive than early is. That's for the most part. The biggest difference on a lot of them now. Various brands on Amazon, Amazon sandbags. How big of a gamble?

Do you think these are or under 150 pounds? Oh, I don't think they're a big gamble at all. They're probably not that expensive, and for the most part, they're probably fine. Yeah, especially under 150 pounds. I'm looking on Jim, I mean, Jim Radar should be able to answer this, but maybe no one's bought Amazon ones.

I mean, if you want there again, if you want tried and true, just get Cerberus or what strength, what is the strength one Freedom Freedom, there we go. Yeah, Freedom Strength Co. Yeah. I mean, get something like that.

Pretty much every company has to be. Or the rogue ones or rep. You know, those are going to be fine. But I type in Sandbag and go to the Amazon category. There's quite a few options here. This eight fitness. They have two ratings, five stars. And I'm just curious,

what the price difference actually is or is it not available right now not available right now but these leutis luddis ludus what do those go for a hundred pound sandbag seven five dollars see they're you're saying by the surbrous one for like a hundred and i think i think that's a hundred pound like you're saving like 10 maybe 20 dollars right not really that much of a save i think in this case i guess if like it's the only money you have then then go for it but like he I think you're going to be fine. Yeah, I would just prefer to, for the, if the difference is $20, I'd prefer to get the name brand one probably.

But also, that being said, it's probably just fine. I mean, I'm looking at it. Sorry, it looks like it has the same kind of closure and everything. Like, it could just be a direct knockoff, but I guess $20, do you decide what that $20 piece of mind gets you? I'm as straight as they come, but $20 is $20. That's insane. Everyone knows that's what Tanner says.

If you had to give up one forever, would it be beer or cheat? No, would it be sparkling water or Texas power bar? It says sparkling water or Texas bars. You had to give up one forever. Well, I do love me some Texas bars, but like we were saying, all bars are pretty good. Yeah. That's the real answer.

That is the answer. All bars are really good. I would have sparkly water. My favorite bars are in the gym are Texas bars, like, are what I use. But we've got a bunch of other bars that are nice, too. And I would not want to give up sparkling water for the rest of them. Like, I have those multiple times a week.

Last question this week from big Nick Rolf are, he's outstanding in his field. He says, what are your thoughts on arts equipment closing and Jen Egg replacing them? That's a very regionally specific agronomy question. Are you familiar with any of this? Yes, I am. Interesting enough to tie this back into Masonomics. Great question. So Jen Egg, I think is Klaus, is that Klaus is going to be opening up business in Aberdeen.

And just a couple weeks ago. Is that how you say Klaus or Klaus? I think you say Klaus, but I'm not sure. I'm actually not sure. C-L-A-A-A-A-S is the word. Yeah, is there anything you can look up that says how to pronounce it? You know, I worked out of farm. I think I've heard also heard people say class before.

Say, I worked on a farm when I was younger, and they got a Klaus chopper, and we called it a Klaus. Okay, that might be right. I think it's German. We were by no means linguistic experts. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how you say it, though.

I'm unconfident in my pronunciation. I have heard all three of the versions that we discussed here, and I guess I'm actually not sure. There's probably right and wrong. Big Nick, let us know what is the proper pronunciation. According to this, the AI overview says it's pronounced exactly like the English word class. Okay. So C-L-A-S-S.

That's what this says. Okay. Class. That could totally be wrong, though. Well, we'll roll with that for now at least until someone proves us otherwise. Class is going to be doing business. And so someone, not even someone I knew, someone that knew someone I knew, got my number, called me. He said, I'm in the National Guard. I knew you were in the National Guard. I talked to some people that are in with me now that kind

of knew you that got their number from you. I'm working for Gen Egg. I'm going to be working with class. We're opening up here. clarify this for me. Jen Egg, are they just a, are they like a dealership for? I think so. I think they're the dealer for class. I got their website pulled up here, but it's still not 100% obvious, but. I'm not positive on that.

That's what it looks like. They have class horse Sputnik. Oh, Horst Anderson. I think they are going to be the dealer for Horch Anderson locally as well. Okay. Yes. And he said one of our higher ups from Canada is coming down here to Aberdeen. and he knows all about massonomics

and he knows it's in Aberdeen and when he's here he really wants to come lift at the gym is there a way you can make that happen? I said, you are talking to the right guy. And I never got to run into the guy at the gym or anything because I think he went early in the morning. I think he went.

I never really followed up. But what I heard through the guy I was talking to is he like in his spare time does home gym builds in Canada. So maybe you're listening. First of all, you tell us the proper pronunciation. You're the man to tell us the pronunciation. Also identify yourself in the YouTube comments. Yeah. Let's know what do you what do you mean? What's this do I have that right? You do home gym builds in your spare time. Something like that. Sounds like a very interesting individual that just pop into the gym and not have any follow up on. Yeah. So that's where of that.

And to Nick's original question, what are your thoughts? That's all my thoughts. So, okay. So now that I know more, rephrase or restate the question, break it down for me. What are your thoughts on arts closing and Jen Egg replacing them? So are they closing or do they get bought out? Wait, is arts or is this arts? That's in Aberdeen?

Yeah, that was on the east side of town also where all that stuff is at. A-R-T-Z. Yeah, where? Does it show still like on Google Maps where exactly that Of a train equipment is what I would call it Oh on the west side of town Oh yeah on the west side of town out there Yeah oh yes I said yes

It's like kind of like by like the DMV area Which is also the weirdest spot for the DMV Yeah Yeah now I know what you're talking about Is it by the DMV or am I? Yeah it is out there It is yep okay like basically out of town.

Yeah. So why did he know that? Oh, he always knows the regional agronomy goings on. See, I thought when this started that arts equipment with some big national, like, dealer for something. I didn't realize it was a local Aberdeen one. He knows, he usually knows what's going on. That is funny. He also asked, also plant spring planting progress.

Planting is essentially done. I would say it's like 90x% done at this point. You know, if you're not done, you'd say maybe you're out filling some potholes or if you're looking for something to plant, you couldn't find anything else. That might be what someone would say. I was looking for something else to plant

and couldn't find anything. So I put it away for the year. That's what might be a phrase you'd hear someone say. Yeah. And I might be like I hear that crap all the time. Oh, we're down. to pretty much just potholes. We're filling in potholes.

That's what's happening. That is our Q&A. Great Q&A. We wrapped that up from the second half of last week. Do we have any other hot burning topics that we want to cover this week outside of our Q&A? A little follow up.

What's it, Zach Tellender? Yeah. Did you listen to any tunes? Okay. I, the sorry, I ain't rich yet. Yeah. After I actually listened to the song, I'm like, oh, I've heard this in Reels before. Yeah.

And then going, I think I said it last week, I did recognize, or yeah, because he had the beef with Diplow. So I recognize him through that, but I didn't see him comment on the Masonomics post. He started following Massanomics here, too. That's pretty cool. It seems I was like, he could have already been following this, and known who it was because I've asked him prior about being a guest on the podcast, and he kind of said yes. and then we kind of started having guests left often. And like, I mean, he wasn't at the time super stoked about it. So I just sometimes if I feel people out and I'm like, yeah, how they seem indifferent.

I'm like, yeah, I don't want to pursue it that hard then. He is very good at the social media thing. You can tell he has that down to a science. He's very good at it. I mean, he's got to be spending a lot of time to do his, I don't know, I don't think it's that effortless. It looks so effortless and easy, but man,

he's got to be putting some time and effort into it. I mean, a lot of his posts are talk about his process and stuff even. So if you follow him like you, and yeah, he's really good at it. That's part of what's got, that's what got me sucked into his music.

And like that's the ultimate move that he's making is like he, it's what he's doing. He makes this really good social media content. He plugs in his, music to it. You hear it. Sometimes it's him performing it. Sometimes it's just the song that plays to end the thing.

It's incorporated in different ways. And then after a while you're like, God, song is kind of good, isn't it? And then you're like, yeah, I got to go listen to that song. Yeah. Like that's the whole, that's the whole thing. Like that's the angle. And I'm like, it's good.

Yeah. He does it well. I think at this point, he just needs a bigger, a bigger catalog of music, honestly. Probably. Probably. You know, he's got a couple, original and then some covers.

Right, yeah. Yeah. So did you listen? You were aware of it then, you think? I was. Yeah, that's sorry, Richard. I definitely had heard, definitely had heard that pop-up in reels before. Yeah.

I like it. Yeah, it is a good song. I listen. And he follows Masonomics now, so I like, now I'm just. So he's all right in my book. Yeah, a supporter of ours, then I'm like, yep, okay, then I like your stuff then too, for sure.

I already did like this, like it. But, yeah, so, Social media is great, I guess. I don't know if I even mentioned that last time, but he's got some, he does some very, some things very well there. I would like to know the squat thing that you tease last week.

Oh, what was I going to, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember now. I'm glad I was so specific with my note there, but I could never forget what that was. And the kids feel are wondering when I say the squat thing, the note literally is squat thing. So, yeah,

I had moved, I have, in currently, I went to kind of just like this short-term linear progression on my, like this linear five-by-five progression on my lifts. And by my lifts, I say squat, bench, deadlift, and overhead press. And when I say five-by-five, it's five-by-five on bench, five-by-five on squats, but then three-by-five on deadlift and three-by-five on overhead press. So the deadlift and overhead press, I do three-bys, and the squat and bench are five-bys.

I just dropped them down. the other exception of that I've been due my deadlift I do as a deficit as like a one and a half inch deficit that's not material what the actual thing

on just specific to the squat and the reason I did this is because I felt like with my knee I just really wasn't still sure where I'm at and I just wanted to push the weight but I don't I couldn't do these random spikes in weight because I'm like not sure that I'm actually ready for that or not so I'm just like

I'm just going to this base level that I know I'm real solid at. And just going to increase this 10 pounds a week. Okay. So 5 by 5. Yeah, I'm doing 10 pound jumps on, 10 pound jumps on the squat and deadlift and five pound jumps on the bench and overhead breast, push press is what I'm actually doing. Yep. But on the squat, I just needed to do something where I'm taking it really, like taking the progression

really slow and just like really gradual. because I was just getting annoyed with where I was at on that. And so I have been, and that's been going good. And, but what I did just slightly different on that, because I've done this whole thing several times in situations like this. I utilize this at times for shorter periods of time because you can't do it forever because eventually you get to wait on everything that are just really freaking hard. Yeah, you can't do it forever.

But it does, I can do it for, say, four to 10 weeks, depending on the scenario. and get to a level where I'm like, okay, I built this up. Like in just two months, now I feel I have some confidence built around this and the weights that I can handle. But I did something different this time around. And I just did it for specifically my squat just as like a confidence builder because the squatting is really the one that I'm still working on getting back after ACL surgery and stuff is.

So I would do four sets of five at my given weight. Yep. And then the next week I'm going to move up 10. pounds, but on my fifth set of that week, I would actually move up the 10 pounds. So when I started, say, I did 330 pounds, or maybe my first day was like 320. So I did 320 for four sets of five. Then my fifth set, I did 330. Oh, really?

So it was just, it was like then that way when I got to the next week, I'm like, well, I already did that on my fifth set when I was fatigued. Yeah. This first set this week is, I already know I can do it. it because I just did it on my fifth set when I was the most tired of the day. So the next week I did 3.30 for 4 by 5. And then the fifth set I did 340 for one set of 5. Kind of an opposite drop set situation here.

Yeah, an opposite situation. Yes. And I really liked it mentally because every one of these weeks was like the most I had squatted basically in a really long time. But then I had went into each day with the confidence. of knowing I already did this weight for this one of these sets fatigued. So I'm like I already know I can do it. I just have to not be a biotch about it because I already like it's literally I know that I can do it for five.

So I just have to do it now. And I did that this week. It was $390 for my four sets of five. And then on the fifth one, it should have been four. If I followed the formula, it should have been $400 for a set of five. And I was like, I got to just put four. So this is where the set of 405 came in. Okay.

I was wondering where, yes, that makes sense then. So then it's like, okay, now I've done 405 for my set of five. And I did, and I was fatigue after, you know, four sets of five at 390, every week is the most I've squatted for a long time. And that's actually getting to a weight for me that I'm like, no, this is enough weight that I think. Five by five at 405 is volume. That's. Right. So I didn't do that, though.

I did four sets of five at 390 and one set of five at 405. But it's my last set. You know, it's my fifth set was the heavy one. It should have been 400. I did 405. But then next week I'm probably going to do the 400. I'm not going to jump all my sets to 405 because I did 405. You know, I jumped five pounds more in my fifth set than I should have.

So you're not going to make a 15 pound jump your safe. No, no, I guess I'm going to go to. So the 400 and then like 410 for your last set then? Yeah, that's probably the plan, which that's starting to feel old. How long are you going to ride this out? Because that is getting up there. Not very many more weeks. Actually, though, like this week went fine.

I've actually thought that a number of weeks in a row where I'm like, oh, probably not too many more weeks of that. And then I just keep doing it. So, you know, it gets slower. Like when I was doing 330, they're very fast. And I understand I'm not like getting a whole bunch stronger. I'm just like getting, I'm just figuring out my limits. Right.

You're finally getting to a point we're getting some good stimulus now. So what I'm actually figuring out, or what the training is doing that I really needed on squats. Like when I did my 5 by 5 this week that was 390 and then 405 for the last one, even the first rep of every set feel felt kind of hard. And like if I'm just like feeling it out or if I'm just basing it on my RPE for the day, I haven't really figured, I haven't remembered yet what it's like to do a really heavy set of squat because I'm like,

No, the first rep was hard. Like the first rep, it's not like on a really hard set of five. You don't do the first rep and be like, easy, second one, easy. And it's like, just the last one, oh, finally it's hard. Yes, the days you do are a few and far between though. Right, right. And like they felt good, but I'm just like, no, this is like a real strain. Yeah.

Yeah. And what it's teaching me, I'm like, no, they can be hard. even the first rep of the first set can be hard, and I can still do a five by five at that weight and even do a little bit more at the very end. And that's what I'm kind of learning through the, you know, I'm like, re-learning or I'm just like. Yeah, because you've been there before without a number multiple times.

Right. It's the coming back after injury. It's this feeling of like, oh, no, this can get hard on a squat, and I can still do it. Mm-hmm. And that's what it feels like. Like, that's what it felt like. No, that's awesome.

Yeah, because I saw you had that Pulse of 405, and I'm like, damn, Tanner, and I didn't know like what the, if that was like just out of nowhere, if you've been building up to that or what, but that's, that's good volume when you're doing that. Yeah, I would say that was like the sixth or seventh week, something like that. I can't remember which one I started out exactly, but that was like the sixth or seventh week. And the squats look good, too. Yeah, I mean, there again, that set was getting hard and my forms deteriorating some at least and my speed is going down.

But I'm like, it's also was a freaking hard set of five squats. Like that's kind of what happens. Yes. You know, that's kind of just the way that that goes. But yeah, I'm also wearing my belt and knee sleeves and all that crap again. Because it just feels good. Well, it feels good at the time. But like what I would say is like squatting heavy sets of five,

I do feel that just like as I'm actually getting heavy again for me. I do systemically feel that more now where I'm like, oh no, that was a freaking workout. You're saying like the fatigue afterwards. Yeah, Oh yeah. Yeah,

you're just like wiped, aren't you? For me, it's the whole jackals training basically where you get done with that. You're like, God, I don't need to do too much else. That's what I'm saying is when you go to like to leg extension and stuff like that,

after that's like, I don't know, I can't even load these heavy. I'm just so wiped out from squatting that I just, I don't have anything left, you know? Yeah. Also mentally I put a lot into it each week.

two where I'm like I get to that fifth set and I'm like okay now I'm like the other ones I was working hard but now I'm like nope this is the one because I'm feeling like my next week relies on how this set you know because as long as I get through this decently I'm like nope I can do this next week too so that was the thing I wanted to point out is that going uh jumping a little bit of weight on the final set that's an unusual way to do I've never even heard of someone doing that that. I don't know why I first did that, but I guess what I used to do in the past after a prior injury, this same injury, what I would do on my squat progression is I would take a heavy single after

my sets. Oh, at the end you would. And not super heavy, but like if my sets were a 5 by 5 with 380, I might take a 410 single that week. And then if my weight moved up to 390, I'd take a 420. Like I was always, I was always just getting a little work with heavier weight. It was always just the idea of getting a little work with a little heavier weights, like a weight that I'm going to approach soon on sets

that I was getting to touch it for even a single. It's just kind of a mental confidence thing. This is the same theory, just applied a little bit differently. I have absolutely no idea if it would make sense to anyone else. And if it, you could argue probably a lot of reasons it doesn't make sense. You know, because I know there's value in you are the strongest when you're the freshest. That's how I'm like, dude, I think it's awesome for doing that. For me, mentally, my brain's like, nope, hate it. Don't like it at all. Don't like that.

That's what my brain thinks. And I think it works for me because if I have a hard five by five, I get the most amped for my fifth set. See, I like that building up to the peak, the first one, like, I like, I like, I like the top set. The top set. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

The top set. Yeah, the top set. Yeah, that's different. Okay. Yeah, actually, that makes a lot of sense to me too. I was thinking of something. I was thinking more of the old, but just straight five by five.

Yeah. That's the straight five by five is tough. It is. The straight five by five is tough. I see, I really like Juggernaut because, all right, if you haven't done Juggernaut,

the way it does it is most days, like whatever, let, for example, squat. If you, if the, if the program's five by five, your first set of five is going to be heavier than the remaining four sets.

So like if your first set or like if your top set is, let's say, a five by five at four 25, your drop sets will probably, your remaining four sets will probably be like 385, 395, something like that. And I've had never done that before, Juggernaut.

I thought it was a little weird at the time. And now I've come to just love that because it is like you were saying, you get the confidence of touching those heavier weights, but you're coming into them pretty fresh. And then, you know, you're hitting that higher peak and then you can kind of take it down the, the stimulation down a notch to put in the work for the rest of the volume. Right. And that's, I've, you know, maybe just three years of doing Juggernaut. I've trained myself to think that's the best.

But I do really like that training method. I like that too. Because obviously I've done that a whole bunch with Juggernaut also and I'm very familiar with other people doing it in the gym. Sometimes what gets me on that, though, is I bring my stimulus down so much on those. That's a little bit of it. Yes. That's part of what you have to be careful of because you'll take 100 pounds off the bar and be like, oh my God, this feels heavier.

Because I'm like, I gave it all on that set. And now I've still got work to do. And I don't want to do any work after that. It is. Did the work. Because it's a double-edged sword in the way that, you know, that top set, you're like, this is the heaviest one. And you're like really amp yourself up.

You're really focused. You're really dialed in. And if they go good, you smoke them. You hit them good. And you're like, great. I feel awesome. All right. This next thing's going to be easy.

And you kind of let your guard down a little bit. And you take that first drop out and you're like, oh, damn it. Like, oh, I got to. And then you're kind of like kicking yourself. But then that's like where the thing of like, well, no, nope, you just like, it is putting in the work. Like you just got to get used to. Because you can't be 100% amped up for all those drop sets either. So it.

The one that that get, the lift that gets me the most on that can do me the dirtiest with that top set and then drop down sets is deadlift. where I can get so geeked for the top set that I can just feel like I just absolutely freaking smoked it. And then it is really hard to replicate anything close to that or you don't even want to. You're not trying to. And you can drop down a lot of weight and be like, oh my God, this feels bad.

Especially on deadlift, I noticed that in that. The one benefit deadlift has is that typically, if typically your drop sets on Juggernaut on Deadlift, it's usually only like one, two, maybe three more sets. Yes. Where squat you are routinely getting sets of five. Like you're typically not getting sets of five on deadlift. But the other thing that I had to get myself used to with doing that too sometimes is particularly on bench,

I don't always feel the best on my first working set. Oh, I 100% agree on this one. I didn't know if it's just me, but it's the same thing. squat, the working set, I usually feel pretty damn good, that first set. Yeah. And bench, a lot of times on the top, the first top set, I'm like, I don't know. I'm fresh. I'm feeling pretty good, but these don't move great.

And then I'll get into the working sets. And by the time I get to the last working set, I'm thinking, oh, I'm really hitting my groove now. Like, this is what I'm feeling really good. I don't know why that is. You'd say, logically, you'd say it's a warm up thing, but I don't think it's that. I don't know. I usually feel my best on my second working set of bench. That's what it hits for you is, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. So what I do to try and work around that a lot of times is, especially in comparison to my deadlift or squat, my last warmup is way heavier, is almost right at my working weight. Or sometimes I'll even straight up do my working weight. Like if it's going to be a set of five, I will take that for a single. Like my last warm up will literally be the weight of the working set just to like get it for one. and one and then be like, okay, I've done that weight now even. Interesting. I don't know that that is logical either, but it's just all these things I do are all mental tricks for myself.

And that's what it is. Over 20 years. Yeah. That I know it just helps my, I wouldn't even recommend him to anyone, but they are just little tricks that I know work for me, like mentally, like, physiological adaptations. I'm not claiming that any of it even makes sense. I just know.

I'll say that like your two tricks here, I don't like either one of them. Like I know how I lift and I'm like, yeah, you won't catch me doing either one of those. Right. I'm not going to take my top bench one for a single before. Like there's no way and hell I'm going to do that. Yeah.

And sometimes I'll literally just do that like if my top set is going to be 350, I will do 340 for, you know, I'll just go so close to it. We're on if it's deadlift, if my top set's going to be 550, my last warm-up's going to be like 495 tops. Like I don't want to, you know, I don't need, I'm not going to go up to like 440 and then do,

I'm like, no, that's totally wasting all my gas. Yeah. But for some reason on bench, I just feel like I need more, I really need to push the warm up farther before going too deep into a hard set. Also, bench is the least taxing of them. So like you are giving up the least by doing it on that one.

So like I could, I could see the logic there. a little bit. But let us know in the comments. What do you think of doing a five by five? The old five by five with the increased 10 pounds on the final set of the lift. That's, yeah, that's a weird one. Yeah. For me, this week, the big change was going back to sets of three.

Like the volume finally really dropped. Yeah, that's like a vacation when you go to set of three. It's also a different mindset. Like, and it always does shock the system. a little bit because you get so used to being kind of in that marathon mindset of like, nope, like you can't get too hyped on rep one or two because we got a lot to go here. Like, we're in it for a grind. Like, we're in for a grind here. And then all of a sudden, like you're doing sets of three. You're like, no, actually, I do need to kind of come in with

a little more hype. Or else I'm not going to get this weight. Yeah. Like, I need to actually attack this a little more because I'm only here for three. And like, I got to like really get after these. And that's what actually this was, it doesn't happen often for me, but this was, So this is my first week of five by three on squat. And they actually felt better as the day went because I'm like, oh, no, no. Like I need to be more aggressive with these. And once I started doing that, I'm like, oh, no, they do feel good. And also like you just get over it.

It's so much quicker when you're only doing three. Yeah, what you said actually made me think of it. The way Juggernaut does work, though, and actually what you described right there, sometimes what I'm doing on my squat is what happens on Juggernaut, though. because you are doing your sets and if you're getting a little bit better as you're going, you're marking the RP accordingly

and sometimes it can jump your weight. Actually, yes. Towards the very end. So that actually, not on the top set days, but on the straight set days, that I've actually done that many times. You know,

I said I'd never done that before. Not true. I kind of, sometimes you do that do that in a way. That always happens to be on incline bench. It always wants my incline bench lower and it's not unusual, especially if it's a day

where there's like, I don't know, four or five sets of incline. It is not unusual for me to be adding 10, 15 pounds to my incline from where I start, where Jugginot wants me to start to where I end up. I think part of the issue on that is it's referencing your main lift to, you know, the main bench to the incline number. And I think it does it with close grip to me where it always wants my close grip too low. Yeah.

And I'm like, no, my close grip is a much higher percentage of my main lift than what you think it is. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like, that's probably the case on your incline. Yes, it's, it's saying like, all right, a 190 incline. And I'm like, this is like an RP5. I could do, I could do 15 of these. I'll just straight up adjust the very first.

And that's what I do. And that's what I started to do over time. And then it's, that's. That's just something you got to learn, though, too, you know, that you, if you don't learn it, you, it happens anyways, because you do what it's prescribed. And then by the third set, you're up to close to where it's supposed to be. You're marking an RP5. And then, yeah, the third set's jumping you 10 pounds.

And you market RP5 again. it's going to jump 10 pounds again. So that's sort of what I'm saying is that you can end up with the last. So what you're saying is you're just sandbagging every week. And then towards the end of your workout, you're finally getting closer to where you should be. Kind of. Actually, I mean, in the case of the linear progression model like that, you kind of have to. That is kind of what you're doing is like you're intentionally, like you're intentionally limiting yourself.

Yeah, especially at the beginning, you're intentionally limiting yourself. Like you're giving yourself a runway, which we've talked about a lot. Right. And that's particularly in the squat and actually in the overhead press because I haven't been training that very much. I've noticed it really effective for that where it's actually really crazy on the push press, especially because I'm doing push press, which I'm least familiar with. I will move up five pounds. I've done this like eight weeks in a row. And almost every time even I've done it and thought that felt a little better than it did. like it felt easier than it did the prior week.

And that's like that's without a doubt strength gains, but it's also technique. It's just practice. Yeah, yeah, that's what's going on there. But that's what going light enough early in the process enables you to do because if I,

you know, the first week out on that, if I'm doing a linear progression and I go and I'm like, oh my gosh, I barely got it. You're not probably getting the best practice. It doesn't sound like a horse cock and mentality though right there. Well, that's true.

You eventually get to horse cock. It's a delayed horse cockification. It's a delayed horse cockification where you just, it takes a, it is rewarding on something like that when you get to the point so where you're like, oh yeah, I get to horsecock finally. It becomes, in my model, it becomes very fatiguing at a certain point when all of them are converging on each other. It does, though.

It gets to be like, damn, this is kind of a stressful week when everything is. is just getting cranked up more and more. And that's why you eventually have to stop, you know, you have to delode, do something. Or let overhead press keep running while you dial the other one's back. I do do stuff like that sometimes where I'm like, now my deadlift is done here.

Yeah, so then you're kind of, you could say on some type of alternating progression with the other one. And that is what I'll do. I'll even eventually, I mean, more of the idiocry of what I, or like the autistic behavior,

that I do even on that progression. The way I'll treat like the deadlift is in order to give myself the window of a longer runway, like I started these deadlifts, um, beltless and strapless. I was just doing double overhand until basically the double overhand was too hard. And then I'm like, okay, I've started wearing straps. And the whole time I've been doing them on a deficit also. Like today was three sets of five, four, 75. from a deficit,

but I'm using the straps now. The next thing I'm going to add is my belt. And I kind of want, I think I want the belt for $4.95, which would be in two weeks, but I don't know that I want the first time I'm wearing my belt to be on $4.95. So I think next week with $4.85,

I'll put my belt on. I think that's the right move. And then in two weeks, I'll be at $4.95 on a deficit with my belt. see how that you know part of it is just seeing how it goes every week you know and like like does it feel like shit because i was fatigued and tired and haven't slept and will next week feel better or do i feel like i'm you know i'm making a call if i feel like shit because i'm at the end of my rope on the whole thing but one more thing i can pull out on it then too is the deficit yeah so like maybe i can

with the belt i feel good all of a sudden and i go to 505 with the belt on the deficit and maybe 5.15. You know, I don't know where it ends. Or maybe I eventually get to where I'm like, I just, this is too much for me right now. I may pull out the deficit and continue for a couple weeks depending on where my other lifts are at. And then I'm like, I could have a runway of a couple more weeks with no deficit potentially. Yeah, I mean, in theory, you should. Like it should. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit there. But it's just like the add, you know, like keeping a couple things in my back pocket to keep the progression going as long as possible. removing these little handicaps that you've put in place along the way.

Right, right. That you just, yeah, I don't know. More follow up on that in future weeks. I'll probably all, eventually will all blow up, and then I just have to get off of this and get on this normal training again. But I do like it short term at least. Oh, yeah, it is fun.

Yeah, like when you can, if it just run some straight up linear progression, like it's always, it's always fun. Well, then because particularly for the squat, then I, now I'm like, okay, I know I can squat 405 for five now. So I need to frame So now you just do that every week forever, right? You've done it once.

I just add 10 pounds. You just never go below that now. 10 weeks I should be, you know, doing 505 for a set of five. Your 20 weeks I should do 605 for a set of five. Well, that's just your baseline going forward. You never go below that ever again. You've done it once. You're good.

But what it does tell me if when I'm back on Juggernaut, I need to make sure weights are adjusted so that, you know, some days are lighter, some days are heavier or not every day needs to be a max effort. But I'm like, if my hardest days, I'm not approaching these sets and rep schemes that I already now know I can do.

I am sandbagging that. I need to adjust that. That squat thing. What a topic. Okay. Should we bring this one in towards a landing? Did you do Juggernaut AI? I mean, we just talked about it, but.

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