Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 533: Is Your Hobby Lifting or Shopping?

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

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Social media, website, everything. Massonomics. What's up, everyone? Massonomics is back in the saddle again for episode 533 this time. time. This is going to be such a riveting episode. Even as we were going through the intro, I was just having to write down thoughts

because I had important stuff that I think we just can't miss talking about this week. So I know it's going to be a good one. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. I'm not making any guarantees like Tanner is, but I'll go with it. I might be overselling it.

No, no. You said it. We've got to make it a good one now. This is going to be an okay episode. I mean, we've had that. This is 533. Like this is going to be Hmm

Even saying it's in the middle At this point is kind of bold because it's to say it's better than like 200 and Well 60 some other episodes We've just perfected the formula at this point It only gets better and better Okay.

H episode is better than the last one. Just better every time. I don't know if that's true. Some episodes seem really good and then we I'll hit that again sometimes. You know what? There's probably an episode, everyone's favorite episode, at least is one different one on the list, you know? Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Before we get into some of that stuff, I've got something just like equally awesome. This is breaking news, important news. It's our newest sponsor of the Massonomics podcast is Elite FTS. Yes, elite FTS. David Tate, as you might know him from. Table Talk has come on with Elite FTS to be a sponsor of the show. We've gone and done Table Talk a couple times, so that's one of the things they got going

on over there. I would say check out that podcast. They have new episodes every single week. He's right up there with us putting podcast episodes out. He interviews the who's who of the powerlifting community. Then also the website, EliteFTS.com. That's where they sell their equipment. Pretty much anything you'd put in a gym or anything you'd put in a gym or anything

you'd put inside of a gym bag, you can get at Elite FTS. And you can use discount code Mass 10 when you're there. You can even get toilet paper from there with discount code Mass 10. It'll save you 10%. So check it out. EliteFTS.com. This episode is also brought to you by the Strength Co. The Strength Co.

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They also have bumper plates if you need to expand your bumper selection and they have a range of barbells and some other gym equipment too. So check out the Strength Co today at the Strength.com. Tommy, you should just get back from a little vacation? I was on vacation, yes. Was it like National Lampoon's vacation?

It was like... Was there a lot of antics and stuff? A lot of crazy situations you got into? The antics were pretty low. I've been on vacation. There's a lot of antics. Luckily, on a family vacation, a lot of antics is not what I want. You know, that's not what I want.

And luckily, that didn't happen this time. So it was just a pretty... Like if it would have been a movie, would it be funny? It would have been a pretty boring-ass movie for the most part. I had a good time, but as far as a movie goes, you know, I wouldn't have been the most entertaining movie. It wouldn't have been like a hilarious summer blockbuster comedy. Definitely not. No.

like no crazy car. No. Not dangerous car stuff, but just like real, real silly stuff going on. Just about a time in a car was so minimal that, yeah, just that part of it went to even,

yeah, it was, it was small. I did go tubing for the first time in a long time. I went with my boy. So, you know, we had to keep it somewhat chill being that he's six.

So you weren't doing the thing where you're literally getting whipped so fucking off sideways. That was not part of it. But, you know, the tube was, Tubing should be pretty dangerous. Yeah, you're not going to,

I'm not going to let someone just thrash me for the fun of it. Like, I'm past that point in my life. Like, that's so far past anything. Would you get up pissed if that is something? I just wouldn't even put myself in that situation. It's just like,

well, yeah, if I've, if someone has a powerful boat and I'm just like, yeah, let's do this. Like, I know I'm setting myself up for failures.

I'm not going to take that on. But when you have a six real scary. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's, well, you can also get at this point,

the likelihood of getting hurt is much higher. Well, that's my thing is when you're younger, like you're all pliable and you can take, you know, you can take some spills, but yeah, just falling just gets worse as you get older. But having a six-year-old with me

made that much easier. There was one time, though, I'm getting quite large. So until the, until the speed gets up to a certain level, you know, there's a lot of drag in the water. Yeah.

And there was one point where we just couldn't quite get that right. And I fell off and I took him with me and he got pretty scared. But then, you know, we were good right away. So and then I'd do the thing at one point where I kind of fall off on purpose like whoa. Yeah. You know, that whole thing. You know, dad stuff, you know.

Yeah. Hilarious dad stuff. Yes. Was it a big weekend on the lake? No, because it was cool. Oh, yeah, that's right. Isn't it? It was.

Yeah. Yeah. It's been like highs of 75-ish. You know, luckily the weather did work out pretty good for us because it was showing the rain most days. But, yeah, it didn't really rain. and it was in the 70s, and then the wind was coming from the right direction where our side of the lake was blocked.

And so, yeah, it worked out, it wasn't hot by any means, but it actually worked out pretty good. But it made for a slow, slow lake week, I would say. Well, it's like I've always said, if you don't like the weather around here, just wait five minutes. Exactly. Because it'll change.

It's always different. It doesn't really change that much in every five minutes, although I was on a bite, cried last night with one of my daughters and it was a really, really nice night and we're out playing at the park. And I swear within 10 seconds out of nowhere, it turns like the most ominously dark. I'm like, where did this come from? And we're like, yeah, let's get in the bike. Like we've got like a solid 15 minute ride home. I'm like something seems a little off here. And

yeah, we didn't make it very far down the road until we started getting. getting drenched. So I did like the weather and I waited five minutes and I no longer liked the weather. So I guess it all works opposite. And then you waited five more and it was good, right? Kind of, yeah. That's actually what happened. Yes.

Yeah. So if you like the weather, wait 10 minutes and it might be the same again. Exactly. It's also light pretty damn late too. I mean, it's 909 and it is still just straight up daytime right now. I don't know if it affects your guys as family rhythm at all, but sometimes in our house we've got a lot of windows and stuff. and sometimes it's hard to convince everyone it's bedtime

when it looks like it's high noon out. Yes. Because in the winter it's the easy gauge. It's dark. It's time to go to bed. It's been dark for like three hours. Of course it's time to go to bed. And then they're kind of like changeover period from like May to June

where it's like, no, it's not dark yet. Like, well, things have changed now. And so we're in that stage. Yeah, it stays light really late, oddly late. I have no windows in my little hidey hole down here. I don't have to worry about that. Yeah. Actually, not even blocked out, no windows.

Also, it's not particularly conducive in case of fires, but... Yeah, you got to roll with the punches, right? Can't have it all. Are you drinking anything over there this week? Am I ever? Raspberry nectarine. The nectarine of the gods. Of the Waterloo Gods.

I've got something here, too. I don't know if I've had this on the show or not before. Oh, a little Gatorade. It's a low sugar, 75% less sugar Gatorade. So it's not like a G2. It has a little bit of sugar. Like this thing has five grams of sugar in it. So this thing's 20 calories.

Okay. Is that going to fit your macros for the day? I'm actually, now that you mention that, this is the sort of thing that drives my wife nuts at times, that even this, 20 calories, I do log this. Like I log, when I'm logging, that was pretty easy because you scan the barcode quick,

but I typically don't worry about stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, it's literally 20 calories. It's almost nothing. But I figure, well, you could also, you could also drink 10 of those in a day. Well, you could do that to 10, you could do that to five things in a day, and you do it every day.

And then all of a sudden, you're like, I'm actually off by like 700 calories. Well, but if you do it to five things, every day your macros will be correct, you know. It's just the day you don't do it that they would be incorrect then because it would gauge you at the correct level of you just have, just have 500 calories you're never tracking every day. Right.

Yeah, if you're consistently off the same. Yeah, that's true actually. Like the number, yeah, right. If you're consistently doing the same thing wrong all the time, it's still kind of works. The numbers are just a little bit wonky. Yeah, you just have actually moved the scale. Yeah.

For anyone that doesn't know, I track that on macro factors. We're a couple of macro factor guys over here. I just, I feel like I, like not by me trying to sell our discount code, but I refer people to, it comes up so often at the gym, like that people end up trying macro factor because of conversations there. And I'm like, honestly, it's just so cheap for a year of it. And like, if you decide you don't like doing it, you'll be like, you have like $60 invested this in a year.

And I'm like, just don't buy it again the next year. That's one of the cheapest investments you can make in that. I will say now, it's like we were gone on vacation. I pretty much don't. We've talked about this. Don't track anything when we're gone or doing stuff like that. And it was kind, you know, we're kind of hanging out at the lake. So, you know, there's a lot of beer drinking and some margaritas and wasted away again in margarita.

Called Jimmy Buffett because it was five o'clock somewhere. And, man, I tell you. though after like four days and I wasn't even getting like hammered or I mean it was actually right had some miller light like huck fin wouldn't have been able to keep up but you know I had a few miller lights here and there I always say don't trust it a guy that won't drink a few miller lights with you yeah yeah you know he's probably just benching at the bean can't get him off that thing he was benching at the beat yeah but uh you know after like three or four days of just not eating that good and just kind of drinking every day man just feel like good garbage. Like my life levels just feel like they're down about four notches and yeah could get away with that a little more when I was younger but definitely not the case anymore. That is very true. And like I was going to pack all these little protein snacks to keep me going through the day. Totally forgot to pack those. So my little lifeline I had for myself wasn't there, but we're back. We're getting back on track here. We're so back. If I have literally if I have three beers,

which is not enough to make me feel intoxicated, I will feel worse the next day, almost guaranteed. And it's not like sick to my stomach or have a blaring headache, but I just don't feel. You're not at 100%. Yeah, I just, like there's just a feeling of subparness. Like, I can, I wake up, like, I mean, I have those days sometimes randomly for something I can't pinpoint too,

but like I almost, it's almost guaranteed I will have. There again, I don't mean, I'm not. not like, oh, the hangover, but I'm just, you know, like, I mean, for like the amount of physical activity and things we ask, if I have like a hard day at the gym the next day after that, I'll probably feel a little different. I'm not even saying I wouldn't be able to do it or hit the performance, but I just feel just not quite as tippity top. Yep, you become aware of it. Yes. Next week. we have, well, actually, the week that this comes out.

So if you're listening to this early in the week, this Thursday, we have a new drop hitting. And it's one of those new drops that'll, I think it'll really make you think, actually kind of depending on what exactly gets finished in time for that. Either way, it'll probably make you think we used to be a proper country. I think so. And are we, we're not doing any teasers on the new drops? Well, I don't have anything in front of me.

It's in my mailbox right now. I have not grabbed it yet. Is it for, is it in your mailbox? I actually don't think it's in my mailbox right now. My son went and got the mail, which means he's sick. So it could have left something in there. I'm not sure he understands that there's a key for the other package. He took all of the neighbor's mail.

Yeah. I, I, well, I'll have to manually check this tomorrow. We'll find out. Yeah, it should be there soon. Maybe we just won't give any teasers. There might be teasers in plain sight anyways for all I know. Well, you never know. Oh, everyone's getting a Creed vinyl record.

Or a reseller for Creed. For Creed. That's what it is. But there is a drop. There is a T in there. It's on a blank that we've never used before, actually. It's on a first time ever using this blank. So that is in there.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, I was thinking way too hard about that, yeah. I mean, that's technically true. Yeah. Right? You are correct. Yeah, that's technically accurate. You could twist that wording a little bit differently

to make it not sound quite so much like that. But technically it's a blank number that we've never used before. And maybe there'll be some drinkware items in there as well, never before seen or not seen by many. Keith Asif is a new color. Yeah, I also think it's a color. We've never, I believe that is correct, yes. Some of the colors are very similar to each other, though also, I would say, you know, when you're working with about 60 different color choices, usually like four of them are kind of the same.

It's just slightly different shading. So that is the drop. Let's see. I wanted to mention that I talked to big Kurt Locker. this week and he wanted us to mention for the Home GymCon strongman throwdown

that's going to be at Home GymCon will be there of course that he runs, he ran it last year. It's actually quite large it's a significant Strongman event that they put on there. You can still sign up for that. So if you're planning on coming to Home GymCon

and you have any interest in doing the Strongman that is out on what is the Strongman site? It's not lifting cab. It's Iron Podium. Iron podium. You can see the details on Iron Podium. You can get signed up there.

And he runs a good meet and he's got some cool events. All the events and weights are listed of what you'd be doing. And they give away a whole bunch of stuff. They give away tons of prizes at the Home GymCon stuff. If you compete anything, you pretty much leave with a full home gym. I think it's harder to not leave with something. Then it has to leave with something. Yes.

So if you're a strong man person or want to try it for the first time, that could be your first ever powerlifting meat. Okay. One other thing. I got a new piece of equipment for the gym. For real? Yeah. I haven't even posted this yet.

Actually, I don't think. The hell have you got over there? This is a new exclusive. Well, it's here. I have. And this is an exclusive. This is new. Nobody knows about it yet.

And it is also a very limited edition. piece of equipment. It's one of only six that exists, maybe seven, if you consider some prototypes that are out there. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I have, I've used it once. I actually really didn't even get to use it thoroughly. I just messed around with it.

I'm excited to go to the gym tomorrow and use it for the first time ever. But if everyone has run out of their guesses of what this could be, anyone have any guesses? Well, I mean, it is on Jim radar. I added it to Jim Radar. I'm the only person that has it on Jim Radar, actually. I'm trying to fix the photo here. It's too long. So it's looking quite ideal.

Yeah. It is the kickstand made by Donnie Thompson, produced by surplus strength. I got one of the first six ever kickstands ever made. Because when we were at Donnie's gym touring it, we got to take it for a demo, a test drive. He showed it off to us. I don't think that was on camera, right? It was still kind of secret about the time.

It was still behind the scenes. Yeah, that was off camera. When we were on camera, he literally had it like covered with towels in the corner. Oh, yes. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. And I use it there.

And I'm like, it is legitimately really nice for dumbbell rows. That was my thought there. I haven't really used it much at the gym. I mean, I set it up and did like a set of five rows or something just to try it really quick. And I'm like, yep, I still like the way this feels.

Okay, okay. So it's past the initial test, but you got to. Yeah, I really haven't used it, used it yet. Yeah, really loaded it up. Yeah, it's made well. You know, it's not, not chinty or anything like that either. It's very, it's a beefy construction, but not all that heavy. It doesn't take up all that much space.

The pad on it's really nice. It is adjustable. It's got like four or five adjustments up and down. So it should fit for most people, depending on their limb length and stuff. I don't know yet what I would use it for outside of, you know, dumbbell rows. Because I was trying to think, like, what other purpose would I use this for? And I have to look at what he... Isn't it possible?

Yeah, I guess you could do barbell rows, I think, too. Yeah, you could do barbell rows also. Because that kind of be a selling point. In theory, you could almost get the bar in, like, just set on the floor, like a deadlift. And then just set this over the top and kind of go, couldn't you? I think kind of the problem on barbell rows, though. might be. Would you maybe hit it?

I don't know. Maybe. I'm just wondering if you would. Yeah. I mean, I can see how you definitely. I'm not sure. I need to angle it in certain ways. Yeah.

Yeah. I would need to try it to see how that is. We'll get updates on that. All right. Yeah, that's the kickstand. All right. Anything else we want to cover before we go into supporting our supporting

members? No. Let's do it. Okay. Supporting our supporting members is a relatively new segment of the podcast. It's only been around now for the 33rd episode of season two of the podcast. This is just the 33rd time we've done it.

And what it is, if anyone doesn't know, we have the supporting member group. You can become a supporting member too. You go to massonomics.com slash join. That's where you find out more information about it. We'd love to have you become a supporting member. It is the number one way that you can support this. If you like this podcast, if you listen to this podcast, anything like that, we would love to have you have you consider becoming a supporting member. There's multiple levels there.

All the levels have great perks, including the supporting member, Mailer. I'd rather be Whippin' Shitties in the Dean sign along with. That's the only way you get to listen to our pre-show. It's the show before the show. We never record it. You only can listen live. It's the only way you get to listen live. You get access to early access to our drops.

you get to sign up for our powerlifting meet, all that sort of stuff. And if you do something noteworthy and you pop it in our Discord, here's a note to you if you're already a supportive member and you do something, you know, you compete in a strongman competition, a powerlifting meet, weightlifting, you run a 5K, you know, you have a birth in your family, you get married, any of that stuff, drop it in our Discord. There's a special channel for it, and then we'll read it. Like Big Adam, big waffle, and big steamp.

all competed at the Highland Games at Celtic Strength Championships. All that crew England crew. God, those guys are just living the life over there. I'd like to see a regional crew try to take those guys on. Not sure anyone could at this point. They're getting stronger by the day. It seems like. Yeah.

Big baller, his three boys competed in 2026 USAPL youth nationals. They combined to PR on seven of their nine lifts out of the three of them, out of the three events each. Yeah. Seven out of nine PRs. Impressive. It's really solid. Yeah, Big Jake got third at Minnesota's strongest man competition,

which is a Midwest regionals event. And Big Alex was also there competing. He got fourth in his class, the 90-kilogram weight class. and then when Big Jake was there, he also coincidentally went to the Mall of America. He didn't even know this was going on. He ran into Big Mad Cow, who was competing in the Grip's Fourth North American Championship

in the Mall of America. And he got third place in a 93-kilogram class. I saw Jake had something on a story about that, and I just assumed that was part of the entire weekend plan. I didn't. I never guessed that that was an accident. Wow, okay. And Big Hunter was all.

Also there, he took first in the 83 kilogram class. Big Mikey got fourth place at Walleye weekend strongest middleweight in Wisconsin. Big Stevo rode 130 miles on his bike over two days with his wife for a Conquer Cancer event. Oh, hell yeah. Big Jose finished 13th at IPF Worlds in his weight class. That's impressive. Big Dan Eager set a family PR with the birth of his new baby boy. Big Dinkleberg ran a hot dog mile in 10 minutes and 15 seconds.

That's right. A hot dog mile. You run a lap, eat a hot dog, run a lap, eat a hot dog, run a lap, eat a hot dog, eat a hot dog, run a lap, eat a hot dog. Wow. Okay. Actually, in a hot dog mile or beer mile is what we commonly, do you drink the beer first and then you run a lap, right?

You drink your first beer first, or do you run the lap and, I don't know actually. I've never done it. I'm not sure how that actually goes. What would be harder, the beer mile or a hot dog mile for you? I'm not sure there either. I mean,

that's a lot of liquid sloshing around. Yeah, you say it's 12 ounces. But you could also drink the liquid a lot fast. I mean, I could drink a beer a lot faster than I could eat a hot dog, I think.

That depends on what type of hot dog they're giving you here. I don't know. Yeah. Some little dinky hot dogs. Yeah, those would be like the little tiny ballpark three bites.

The little bun, yeah. Yeah, maybe that's not, really. I think the question's not relevant for the first one. It's not relevant for the first one. I'm trying to think what's hardest, the fourth beer while running a mile or the fourth dog. I think the hot dog might almost be harder. I don't know.

You'd think maybe that 50 ounces of beer sloshing around might be tough, but I'm just wondering if that fourth hot dog might start to sit poorly. It's something about burping up a hot dog and breathing really heavy and having to stuff a bun down, you know, it just feels like it's plugging the airways. What about the cottage cheese mile? You eat a small tub of cottage cheese

between each lap. That might be the worst of both combinations is that you kind of have sort of liquid sloshing but also it's a very thick consistency too. Yeah, that might be the most challenging one. What if we did a La Croy Mile where you just drink a La Croyo? That would also actually be pretty challenging the bubbliness of it all is really...

You'd be slamming LaCroix. Yeah, that kind of suck. Yeah, Big Jeff competed his culinary series sushi-making thing, and he got a certificate for it. Oh, he's certified? Yeah, he's certified. It's like people are just handing certifications out for anything these days. Jeez. Certification.

Wow. Yeah. Big Timotimati had a family PR with the birth of a big Wynola. Yeah. So a family PR, two family PRs. We also have big, who else do we have the big Dan eager? And then Big Will was this week's guest on unpaid and underrated,

our brady little sister podcast. So Big Will, supporting member got to be on the show. If you become a supporting member and get involved in the community, who knows, maybe you could be the next guest. on our Bridey Little Sister podcast on Paden Underrated. Anything's possible. Everyone's got to strive for something.

It's good to have goals. It's good to have goals. Okay. That is supporting our supporting members. Now, how about a certified training facility of the week? I thought you would never ask. Let me give my screen recorder ready here. You thought I would never ask?

you're like, yep, I was not looking for one. I just accidentally had one pulled up here. I didn't think you would ask, but I did just happen to have one pulled up because I'm always, always looking over here. My favorite part of the week is marking him off as the certified training facility of the week. Okay. And then everyone that's watching along live, all you support members watching on live, when we do it, then go comment on his gym and say, ah, you're the support,

you're the certified training facility of the week or something. Yeah, blah. Yeah. Okay. I feel like this one's been a long time coming. All right. Massonomics gym. Yes.

Yeah. Made it. Hold up. We're going to look at my gym. Got it. No, no. This one's been catching my eye for a while. We even mentioned it a little bit, a few episodes.

Oh, it is Massonomics, Jim. Oh, we are looking at Jim Day Zvala, and that is Z4, V4, L4. They're using the fours instead of the A. Jim days. You know, Tanner, last week you were complaining about none of them were easy to spell. I wanted to pick an easy to spell one this week. One with numbers and replace of letters. A little Spanish in there too.

You know, really telling me to the test big time here. Okay. So yes, if everyone refreshes their screen, you will now see that it is a certified training facility of the week. Very nice. All right. There it is. This gym. It's located in Texas.

It is about 625 square feet, established in 2015. They are into functional fitness, strength training, starting strength, bodybuilding. And it is a garage gym, the owner, Mr. Alberto himself, Dream Gym built in a two-car garage, dad of two boys, down 60 pounds, built the gym still building the man. He has, let's see how he's doing here. He has top equipment brands. First is Rogue, second rep, third of, third temple of gains.

That's a pretty good lineup right there. This gym is just freaking sweet. Yeah. And he has 60 pieces of equipment logged in Jim Radar. And along with those 60 pieces of equipment, he's also left some reviews. How many reviews has he left here? He's left 18 equipment reviews. He has his Instagram and his TikTok linked in case you ever want to check those out.

And we need to start mentioning what people have. because some people have some people have a lot of things linked, yes. And he only has two comments as of right now. But what all can you link on, you can link Instagram, TikTok, can you link Facebook? Probably.

Facebook, open powerlifting. That's the coolest one to be, open power lifting. I really like that one. I can't remember. I think one of the beta testers made that suggestion. I think at some point I really like that one. Should we,

is that, should we be able to be linking the music app? Spotify? Like, is that a thing you could do? Could we add that? The thing is most, no. I mean, I guess you could. Someone DM'd me on Spotify. Whoa, really? That's the thing. I was like, why does Spotify have this? That's the thing? Yeah. I did not know it today. And that's what I'm like, that's what, getting to be a lot of DM options out there. A lot of them. I'm like, why Spotify? Why? I'm not sure.

Okay, great. Something for me to keep up with communications on. Perfect. I was running out of ways to stay in touch with people over here. Okay, should we look at his photos? Yeah. All right, looking at this first photo. So, like we said, garage gym.

This gym, from what I can tell is well past the point of ever being able to be used as a garage. It just looks like a straight-up gym. I don't think you could ever pull a car. Yeah, it's actually funny to consider that this is a garage. You don't know actually looking at it. You don't, it just looks like it could be a commercial gym or, you know, like. Yeah, trying to paint the picture here. It is horse stall mats on the ground.

He's got horse stall mats. All the walls are like, they're not blacked out. It's a gray. It looks like the ceiling's grayed out. So everything is this dark black gray color. Basically all the equipment is also black. He's kind of gone with a dark aesthetic. He does have a white rack.

It looks like there. But pretty much everything else is black. He has the hexade. lights on the ceiling and also some just like light. He's kind of done this sort of Chevron angled light pattern along the top border of the wall where he can change the color. So you'll look in a few of these photos when he has the lights dimmed and all the LEDs change to color. Like it really gives it a pretty crazy look. But just looking at the first photo.

The first is a garage. Where the hell are the garage doors? I can't figure out where the garage doors are at this thing. I don't know. It doesn't make any sense to me because there's just so much going on here. I can't, can't remember. And he also has the walls covered in posters, banners, flags, like all of it. Like there's, there's no shortage of decoration and character in here.

So I love to see that. But yeah, the first photo looking at it, I can see concept two row or a ski erg. I can see an inspire functional trainer. I can see a rep PR 5,000 rack. I can see that Temple of Gaines. I so, I think that's the ISO row. machine kind of in the corner there that Kevin had, right? It's Kevcade.

Yeah, the plate loaded isolateral rowing machine from Temple. Yeah, I can, Kevmeister had that too. Yes. And there's a lot more there, but it's far enough away. So we're going to go to the next photo and look. Yeah, there's a leg press. Do you know what that leg press is, Tanner?

Um, like, I don't know if it's just a leg press or leg press hack squat. Let me see. Ah, that, well, he's got the pendulum. He's got the temple. Oh, that's the peak. That's peak strength equipment. Oh. Plate loaded linear leg press.

Yeah, it's a 45 degree leg press. I'm not sure I'm familiar with them. Yeah, peak strength equipment. Okay, but they are on Jim Radar, so. Well, it's. He also has the scout, the West Side Scout reverse hyper in there. Of course he does.

Second Most own machine on Jim Raider. The thing is popping up in a lot of places. It's, it's, it's, I still get surprised how often you see that thing. You might have to get one of those. I don't want one that bad, but everyone, has it. It kind of makes you feel like I'm missing out. And what about fold it up and put a thing in bed when you're not using it, you know.

Would you ever get the fringe sport mammoth belt squat? I've thought about it. I actually, we'll kind of actually talk about this a little bit later in the episode. Oh, yeah. I wasn't going to, I'm not going to add, you know, I'm getting into crunch time for a meat here. And this is the time. Right. You're not going to go new variations.

Like, yeah, let's try something weird. Yeah, let's spend like six weeks figuring out what my belt's. squat tolerance is like here. So, right, right. Yeah, the idea of adding some of that stuff in, though, it gets very enticing in a month or two here. So we'll take a look at that. Or on that later.

Yes, yes, yes. What is this lap pull down? He's got a selectorize. Oh, it's a Titan. He's got a Titan. The Titan selectorized lap pulldown. That thing's pretty beefy. Yeah, 300 pound selectorized.

Yeah, the stack goes like halfway up the guide rods on that thing. It's got a big stack on it. How much do you think that thing costs? Is it like 25? on sale for $1,500. Really? The selectorized version? Lat tower 10 to 300 pounds selector, $1,500.

$1,549. Does it ship free? I think everything does from them, doesn't it? I don't know. It's normally 2100. $1,500, that's pretty good. I guess I've never used it, so maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like a pretty low row on it and stuff too.

It seems like a pretty good piece for $1,500. 1,500. Wow. Well, what's Jim Radar say? It's got a nine reviews owned in 15 gyms. That's got a 4.41 out of five. I wonder what the, I want to, sometimes this is just a gym radar hack when I'm looking. I use this. Also, first of all, I use this all of the time now for myself. I like to, I mean, this is just kind of how I do reviews on any site, but I like to go to, I first check like the lowest. rating. It's like who said the worst thing about this? And like the lowest rating on this is a three out of five and it's from Brandon, basement Brandon. He said when this thing was first released, it was a steal. However, over the years, the price has said it'll increased. Still a good value,

just as much, not as much when previously priced and not with as many competitors on the market. But when it's on sale for 1500. I'm assuming he's not talking 1500 when he's talking about, that's the thing. That's the thing. At 2200, what did you say 2,200 is the normal price? 21. Yeah, you know, at $600 more dollars, I can see how you could be a little more critical, but $1,500 feels pretty cheap for that. Well, that's actually in Alberta right here, his review of it, he says, I've seen it on sale recently for around $1,500. And at that price, it feels like a steal for what you're getting. Yeah, I agree. Well, keep your eyes peeled, people, if that's what you're in the market for.

I see a Jim Radar certified flag back there. Two of them. Oh, yeah, in the Massonomics. Yeah, tucked behind that. What else do we got? Yeah, the rep rack. It's crazy how this beautiful rep rack feels like the afterthought compared to everything else in this gym.

He's got the Rep Smith attachment on that too. Oh, is that on there? I can't quite tell from the photos. Rep. Smith machine rack attachment, yeah. It looks like he has the Rep. Eurathane Equalizer plates there. Okay, now I see the rep. Yeah, the rack.

Okay, yeah, that rack is pretty cool. I see the Smith machine on there. That is nice. What else do we got? He's got it at a slight angle, too. Did you see someone put in the, in the, uh, in the discord. So just this week, we had our video with Big Maths YouTube, our big maths gym tour on YouTube and, uh, had an incredibly expensive piece from AFS, which I'd never heard of in my life.

Someone in the Discord put an AFS Smith machine was for sale in marketplace for $10,000. And that sort of just feels like a made up price. How much did I buy that Smith machine from Millbank for? Was it $200 or $300? I was it $300. It might have been $300. And it's funny. I actually saw that exact same one for sale on marketplace.

I think it's in Minneapolis. I think they wanted $1,200 for it. Yeah. I mean, $300. That Smith machine is also like as good as like it. The only knock, I guess I haven't used a ton of Swiss machines. The main knock against it is it just would be nice to go lower, but that's a lot of Smith machines do that.

I think by design they end up a lot of them be similar like that. For any pressing thing, it's totally fine. It's like if you wanted to do like say some deadlift variation. RDLs or hip thrust maybe. It's just not quite getting low enough. Right. All right. Back to this, Jim, though.

Yeah, the racks kidded out. He's got a full set of the round urethane rep dumbbells two all the way up to what, 75 that looks like. Yeah, I think, yeah, something like that. Oh, Temple of Gaines multi-flight. Got one of those. Rogue Rhino, of course, you got one of those. Yep. And never seen one of these in a gym.

Temple of Gaines. Adductor. Adductor machine. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I have not, don't come across those in a home gym very often. I see the pendulum squat.

Did you say that's Temple of Gaines too? Yep. Yeah, that's good. What else is here? There's a stair climber. That leg pressed. looks pretty nice. It does.

Yeah, the stair climber looks good. They got the, what is the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, Temple of Gaines. That's Temple of Gaines also. Yeah. Functional trainer. Concept 2 bike, I do like that bike,

the biker. I do, actually, I say I like it. I've never used it before. We've seen it in a few gyms.

Yeah. I like the idea of it. I do like that piece. But then, yeah, there's some photos here of the gym with all the lights on and it's,

this is an impressive gym. There's very few that. Actually, the other thing, too, from a decor standpoint, he has the same kind of, what do you call that ceiling, like kind of the military netting above that, was it Matthew had it in Detroit? Remember in his strong man, one stall garage?

Do you see that up there? I don't know what that's actually called, but yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Like that does add a cool look to it. Yeah, it is cool. Yeah, and he's got a bunch of actually just different random neon signs in the gym too. that are cool.

And that's the gym, man. You got to check this thing out, though. It's the real deal. It's good. Do you think if you were in, say you were in Jim Day Zavala, could you get strong in there? Oh, hell yeah.

Yeah, we're getting strong in Jim Day Zavala. We need to do a Texas gym tour tour and go check this place out in person. I'm just looking at this, you know, where are we at here? We're west of Houston. Between Houston and San Antonio, actually pretty close to Austin.

That would absolutely be on the list of places to go. Speaking of San Antonio, did you see that the New York Knickerbockers won the NBA championship? I did. That was fun basketball to watch, wasn't it? Yeah, that was pretty good. Can't help but think that the Spurs might have left one or two out there, but.

Oh, yeah, they definitely blew a couple leads. Maybe that's just what happens when the oldest person on your team's like 20 years old. Yeah, that could be. It was pretty good basketball, though. It was. Even my dad, he's a big college basketball fan, doesn't watch the NBA, basically ever. And he's like, oh, I really liked watching those. Those are really good.

So it's, yeah, entertaining. Did you see that Hathor Julius Bjornson was a, was, he didn't, we couldn't get him to go him to your garage gym. Unfortunately, I wasn't there, so that would have made it harder to. But yeah, I did see he was at Los Campione, which is pretty cool to see him. I have been there before. He had an Instagram story post And he was saying he was looking for gyms in Sioux Falls

And I did DM him and sent him the gym tour of a perfect little sweeties But he didn't respond So didn't influence him into going perfect little sweets Which I bet he would have had a blast going to With Bryce up for a little sweet And he'd be like, yes This is all made for big people like Bryce lifts here Did you tell him that you get a free fudgeicle when you leave

That's there's a freezer? I didn't That's probably honestly why I didn't go. He didn't sell it hard enough then. Yeah. Well, also, though, I'm guessing Thor knows about the wedding. And he's probably not sure if Bryce is still lifting now or if he's quit already. Yeah, a lot of guys at this point.

That's probably why he didn't show up. He didn't know if Bryce had already quit. They're only about a month out. He knows a lot of guys a month out. They already gave up. Yeah. I mean, I think he is still lifting as of right now, right? Yeah, well, you know, I was there a week ago, but I haven't been there since.

So I can't actually verify if he still is. So he might not be. when you were there, did he mention like what the process is going to be like. No, he was being kind of sneaky about it, which makes you think that maybe he was quitting probably like right after I left. Did I tell you this?

Maybe we talked about on the podcast, either I can't remember or if I was just thinking it, I could be any of those things. I think it's, did you ever, have you ever seen the show Storage Wars before? Yeah, I've, do you know the premise? I know the premise, yes, yes. And you can't go, so everyone stands

outside of the storage unit, they open it, They cut the lock and they open it up and you're not allowed to go in. Yep. You just stand and peek around and then it's a bidding war. So like all of us will get to stand there and he'll have to open the door. And you're standing outside. And then it's going to go in. That's an elite FTS rack.

And then you get closer and you find out it's actually just a box that looks like an elite FTS rack and there's nothing inside it. Yes. And it'd be like, oh, all these York roundheads are all broken and snapped and bent off. Yeah, there's a full York roundhead collection. Yeah, you get there every single. one's destroyed. From afar, it all looks great. You get close and it's worth nothing.

That's what I think it's going to be like, though. We're going to do like this awesome. Do you think it'll be one of those things where they'll get in there and they'll find out it's all just fake weights actually. You know, it's like, oh, hundreds of pounds of weights. That makes sense. That's how he's so strong. Yeah. Yeah, we could be that strong too if we had fake weights.

All just wooden weights. That squat of yours, that five plate squat of yours has started to. It's all out of us now. Yeah. Very suspicious. Yeah, the only real thing is the double standing leg curl. Everything else is just kind of... Oh, yeah.

I would bid highly for just the double standing leg curl. Did you use the standing leg curl at all, like, outside of that joke? I actually did a few reps because I said, I don't think... We've been to several gyms with these. I don't think I've ever done the standing one before. And so I did a few, just a few reps with pretty lightweight on it before. And that was actually my warm-up to do the double-standing one, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. So how was it? It's pretty good. I prefer that over a seated leg curl. Okay. Yeah. That would be my preference for sure. You'd rather not sit.

I'd rather not sit is what I'm saying there, yes. Yeah. Also, getting to use the downside, like having to only do one limb at a time. That is the downside to it. Yes, that's why I would prefer to lie down,

you know, Given my choices there, I'd be lying down, standing, and then lastly, I'd be sitting on that one. That's, those would be my preference. Actually, like how Tom Havlin had to chime in on what constitutes a line versus seated exercise. Actually, that's a good topic, because I'm like, there's been a lot of conversation, a lot of conversation around this of like, when is something seated and when is something lying? So I was doing a 45 degree. Yeah, you're at a 45 degree angle, which is right in the middle.

What do you consider that, laying or sitting? Well, it, I think it's seeded. And I actually, and I don't know why in my brain. And then after he wrote his note, I'm like, that's it. He solved it. That is correct. Well, there was several, but someone else said, it's only seated if you remove the back pad and can stay in that position.

Okay. Well, I would say there's a lot of like leg extension type machines, though, that you are at a bit of an angle. It's hard to stay in that position, you know, if without a back pad. Yeah. I mean, you'll still be seated. If you get to hang on to your handles, you could still. But like at that 45 degree thing, you'd fall right over if you removed the back pad.

Yeah. I still, I liked his logic, though, of. Yeah. If you don't have to move your feet and you can just stand right up, it's seated. Right. Right. Isn't that basically what he said? Like, if you have to reposition your feet in order to get up, it's not, it's lying.

And I'm like, if you're laying flat on your back, like, if you think about that, like, yeah, you like reposition as you. sit up and then you stand up. But if you're sitting on a utility bench, it does kind of break, though, for leg extensions and leg curls, because, well, actually, leg extension, usually you just put your feet on the floor.

You just don't extend them anymore. Just set them down. Yeah. A lot of other people just had specific angles that they said anything. It has to get to 60 degrees before it's considered seated. Somebody said 65 degrees.

So for, in their opinion, 45 would be lying still. Interesting. Yeah, I haven't given the actual angle much consideration, but I can see the argument there. Yeah, it is a very, it's very interesting and also just very important. Very, I could say the most important thing, actually. Yeah.

But I like every time we do a joke like that, Tom Havlin weighs enough. There has to be people that come across. that. God, this is dumb. They're still talking about this, and they're like, huh, Tom Havlin commented on it. One of the strongest guys in the world has insight here, so who am I to knock it? Yeah, it's like, maybe this isn't dumb, I guess.

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No, it won't. Like, it's actually like required. The store just rejects your payment. They've, they can't, they told me they can't remember the last order that they've done that hasn't used discount code massonomics. Yeah, makes sense. They all use it. It totally makes sense. Okay, are we going to do a title topic?

I think so. And every time that Durr Disturb says, you know, it's time for a massonomics title topic. So what, what is, we've also decided this isn't necessarily going to be a super long title topic. but it will be probably the title of the episode. It is. I had to go back and look, because we put this in here a while ago. Do you know when this was?

Do you have any idea? It's been one week since you looked in there. Have I seen this? Have you heard about this when this was actually put in here? Do you have any idea here, Tanner? It's been a while. Anything left over there. That's all the times.

Time-related buttons I currently possess on the board. I don't know. It's had to have been in there for a while. You could say, I looked, August 26th is when this was originally put in there. So we've been sitting on this topic for a while. Yeah.

Just waiting for the right time to strike. And today is that new. Yep. Today was prime for it. So the title topic this week is, like always, you know, we're kind of workshopping this a little bit.

You know, we're going to fine tune this. But it's, it's lifting, shopping, or actual hobby. You know, there's like a colon in there, like lifting, colon, shopping. Not like the colon we were talking about earlier in the episode. No, like the colon that holds all the cottage cheese.

Not like that one. This is just like a, you know, the structure of grammar over here. A semi-colon is what you've had left after they had to cut part of years out because it had too much cottage cheese in it. He's kind of got a semi-colon now. It's not a full colon. It's semi-there. When you need more cottage cheese, it's just a semi-colon.

When you eat all that cottage cheese and it's a full colon. That's what happens after one too many colonoscopies, you're left with a semicolon. A guy can wish, right? Someday. All right. So what do you think the official title is? Something along the lines of shopping or actual? I don't even.

no. It's something along the lines of shopping or hobby. Is the hobby lifting or is the hobby shopping? You decide. 2026. We've kind of talked about this. This has been a not a central topic, but it's been something that's we've certainly been around or, you know, like we've, we've discussed adjacent topics that are not, where you maybe have inferred some of these things before, but we've never addressed it really directly. Yeah. And before, I don't want anyone to ever think we're singling them out on this because we'll be the first to admit we're guilty of what we've talked about in here right away so this isn't this isn't uh we took a hard look at the mirror before we started looking at any of you guys on this start it's right here yes so

we're not we're not singling anyone out we're guilty of it ourselves but extreme ownership you know about extreme ownership i do know about extreme ownership per jaco okay it's like i could all right okay you're really derailing me here right now i gotta say something though i got to say something Does it have to do with extreme ownership? No, it has to do with business and self-help books. I can't. Oh, yeah. Okay, as a guy that at a certain point was like, yeah, dude, I'm all about self-development and I wouldn't say self-help.

Well, that's what all these books are deep down inside is a self-help book, but are you going to talk about the seven colored hats? No, I'm not talking about the seven-colored hats. But as a guy that did a lot of the audio books that all of these like business ones. Yeah. At a certain point, like, man, it's just all bullshit that you're just framing from your little specific worldview. And you just hope as the writer that someone can be tricked. I'm saying this in the most cynical way possible. But you're just hoping that you can trick someone into having the same perspective as you.

And they're like, oh, I never thought of it. And after I don't know, I could probably go through my audible. I probably went through like 30. The 10 hour work week or what's the name? Oh, yeah. Like, what was it, Tim Ferriss, the five hour work? week, like when the idea of drop shipping, you would not believe in, what, 10 years of me being a freelancer, how many people over the years have approached me needing help getting their

drop shipping business going? And every time like, dude, don't even go there. And they're like, you don't get it, man. The rewards are, the risk is high, but the rewards are even greater. And I've probably, I don't know how many, like, it's actually been a while. I think people have wised up to that's not a thing before. People have wised up to like, yeah, that, that does not work anymore. But in like when I, especially when I first started, I got hit up a lot for people wanting to help starting their drop shipping business. And it's because people bought the lie in these books that everything is just like passive. You don't have to do anything. Is the risk even that high in that business model? In theory, it shouldn't be as the risk is low. Right. I think what a lot of people

they don't realize is that like, no, no, the work is so insanely high that you have to break through to do anything there. But my point is on these self, I can't. stand the genre anymore. It's so, it, because actually, this is what, the genre revolves around, you have to have this guru now. At this point, there was, maybe there was a time when the genre was more pure. You could just put out facts,

but now you have to be the guru. And the guru means you have a content team behind you, which means you have to be pumping out content 24-7, and I can't stand any of it. I get it people like, and if that's where you find, but it's, to me, it's the same thing as the gym. It's like, when you need the inspiration to go lift, You know, it's like, oh, like I got to watch the, what's our Mark Bell powerlifting video?

It's, uh, I fell. I can't move on until we know, remember the name. I will not be able to do anything. I know. We have to look at it. I fell with a thousand pounds on that back. What the hell? They tried to help me up and I said, get the hell away from me.

I'm a man. I walk in my own two feet. Uh, it's powerlifting motivation, isn't it? Or is it? Is that what it is? It's not quite that. It's, uh, here I got right here. It is.

Um, power lifting the mentality. The mentality. There we go. I knew it was the yeah. It's like to me, I'm at the point where most business self-help books.

It's just power lifting the mentality, but for business. And long way to get there. You asked me about Jocco's extreme ownership. I don't have anything against Jocko. I think he's done a lot to help people. Um, that was one of the first audio book.

That was like my awakening to listening to these. I was like, I don't know, a third of a chapter. and I'm like, dude, your advice is just to work harder. Like that's at a certain point. Like, no, a lot of people just have bad ideas. Working harder isn't the solution here.

Your ideas and your whole concept sucks. It's like, oh, I just got all the managers together. I said, you got to take ownership of this. And they worked harder. They came in. Everyone took ownership and we solved the problem. I'm like, ah. Okay.

That's when I had to quit. I had to quit the audio book. I basically had to quit the genre after that. They took extreme ownership, though. It was. Yeah. It was just like, yeah, if everyone just takes ownership all the time. Like, yeah, man, I know, it's that simple.

It's just everyone just always takes ownership all the time. Except for when you work in corporate America where a lot of people don't care at all. They just want to. Like if everyone does a really good job, things are going to go well. Okay, guys, if we all just try really hard and do our jobs good, things won't go bad. And it's like, ah, usually when teams do that, you don't have to have a conversation because they all get it already. It's true. It's like, yeah.

Okay, if we only put straight A students in this class. the grades will be really high. Like, our test scores will be really good if we just get really smart people to take the test. Yes. You know, that was a big tangent there. Okay, sorry, but yeah. So that's my thing why I can't do

what's the last amount of the title topic. Yeah, we didn't even do the title topic. So that's where, actually, that's where it grinds. That actually is, okay, to tie this one more time, man, I'm just ranting now. But when I see things like 75 hard and one of the rules is you have to read nonfiction, I'm like, dude,

I've read enough nonfiction where I'm like, I kind of have a feeling like 80% of nonfiction is mostly fiction. They just have like lessons that may or may not have happened and these elaborate stories to support. I'm like, come on. Are we all just pretending this is how it goes? You know what I'm saying, though? Do you get it?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so is that a thing of 75 hard that you're also reading nonfiction? I think you have to read nonfiction. I'm like, dude, like, okay. I get it. Some fiction is just bullshit stuff people put together. But there's also some fiction that has more work and effort put into it than any,

like, nonfiction book about some guy telling you to, like, invest in your fourth duplex using this tax evasion sister or whatever. I'm like, okay. More like 69 hard, am I right? Can we come out with 69 hard? Not coming out with 69R. more like 69 hard starting a program 69 days what what's the premise premises as related to 69 hard okay let me find let me find I got I got a know we can just have a whole pair I got to know the 75 hard rules here okay okay you have to follow a diet

no cheat meals and no alcohol allowed oh no drinking no and two 45 minute workouts every single day for 75 days. One has to be outdoors regardless of the weather. Okay. I would also like your definition of what a workout is. Right. Also, what if I just want to work out for an hour and a half once? Nope, 245 minute workouts.

You're breaking the rules. You are breaking the rules. You have to drink a gallon of water. See, same thing. I don't know. If you're 100 pounds, do you need to drink gallon of water day? I don't know. That's the rules, though.

Read 10 pages of a nonfiction or self-development book. No. No, I don't like that rule. At least 10 pages are pretty reasonable. Audio books do not count. I'm fine with the have to physically read 10 pages. I'm not fine with the nonfiction. I've read enough nonfiction to know most of it is mostly fiction.

Like, let's be real here. And then you have to take progress photos. That's fine. No rest days. No modifications. I couldn't do it. I can't follow those rules. I can't buy into that.

I can't follow those rules. But just wait until we come out with 69 hard. I know. It's going to be way better than that. 69 hard. Work out hard like three days a week for 20 minutes to four hours. It's up to you and decide. If one day you need to not, that's also fine too.

You can do it another day. And also it doesn't have to be for two. If you need, can only go for 40 minutes one day. If you feel like you're going to be a deadbeat dad and miss some stuff, you know what? Fuck it. Skip the workout. Go do that family thing. Trust me, it's way more important.

And it'll have to drink a gallon. gallon water. I mean, do drink water. Drink water. But just a good amount of water. Don't be dehydrated. Like, you don't want to be dehydrated. Yeah, you want to read. You know what? We're going to make it so you have to use your actual imagination. You're reading fiction. You don't get a choice here.

You're going to read fiction. It's going to be somewhat creative. You're going to have to paint a world in your head that's not guys in suits doing deals. That's what you have to do. It's good for you. And progress photos. Well, allow progress photos. 16. That hard. There it is. And it's 69 days instead of 75.

You get a few days off. You get a few days off. You're also going to build an extra. We're going to build in a few delayed days too. We're following best training principles here. And at the end, you're going to get done and be like, yeah, you know, that's pretty good.

Also, if you live in South Dakota and it's the winter, don't do it outside. Don't. Nope, that's just a bad idea. No one's doing an actual 45-minute work. outside when it's negative 30. They're lying. They say they are.

They're lying. They might have done one of them, but they're not doing 30 of them. That's just dangerous at a certain point. It's dangerous. What type of actual workout are you getting in when it's... When it's that cold, you can't actually touch things. No, you can't touch things.

So when you're going to... Okay, if you work out, if you're like a regular person, you got a job during the day because you provide for your family. So you go to a job. Yeah, it's going to be dark. So it's going to be you're either working out at 5 a.m. or 7 p.m. when it's pitch blackout. There's ice everywhere on the ground.

You will damage your hip. End up in the emergency room. And that's why they call it. They don't call it 75 days easy. Clearly, clearly rules made by someone that doesn't live in an inclement climate here. And that's why they call it. The Mastinomics title topic.

So that's, that is how we feel. about business fiction book nonfiction books in 75 hard I did you just got me go I got a

I'm actually clicking I got rid of honorable a long time ago because I've been doing audiobooks now you got me really curious what my I just got to I got to like throw some of these classics out here for people

yeah I was trying to think of them the five hour work week is a really classic yeah I never did that one because that even just seemed too bullshit for me at the time I've I've done what's the Jocko one that I said?

Extreme ownership. I had to quit it. Couldn't do it. We are, my company, like the extreme ownership people come like a couple times a year. Yeah. Not Jocko, but like Jocco's like we've got a certain guy, you know, a Jock disciple. You got a guy. We got a guy. Yeah. I know. Okay. Here we go. Oh, well, of course. I'm just looking at the time. Of course, there's the total money makeover by Dave Ramsey, right? Everyone has to do that one at some point, right?

That's, uh, that one's not really a business one. I mean, that's, right. You could, you know, it's the same thing all Dave Ramsey stuff. You make the argument like, uh, once you get beyond bad habits. That's what I'm like, I could write most of his book and I've never read the book. But I just know enough of the Dave Ramsey. I understand the debt snowball and all of the principles of budgeting. So the road less stupid.

I cannot remember that one. Never split the difference. Atomic habits. That's the 10x rule. Extreme ownership. This is marketing. Make time. Zag,

rework. The subtle art of not giving a fuck. That was one that like just was typed up. I had. Yeah. I feel like I know about that one. It's just like the same. I can't.

Deep work. Profit first. So good they can't ignore you. Good to great. Purple cow. Good to great. I'm aware of that. Essentialism.

Ask. I mean, so many of these. They're not even all the cliche. A lot of those ones aren't even the cliche ones, but I just start looking at any like business, self-development. And those come up. And to be fair, some of those are decent books.

But after a while, it's just like, oh, man, I can't do this anymore. You didn't even do the seven colored hats. No, but what's the, but what's the seven habits of highly effective people? Oh, yeah. That was by Dale Carnegie, I think. I've read that.

I've read that one in paper a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, not audible. Yeah, that was just my audible. I have even some of the, you know, some of the other more stereotypical ones in books over here. But I'm over that. I'm over that. I was voted highest achiever of my Dale Carnegie graduating class.

Really? That's a thing. I have a plaque. I have a plaque for being highest achiever. Like in where? Where was the set, though? My work. Oh, you guys had like an actual thing for it?

Oh, yeah. There was a period in time where every employee, every employee of the company had to graduate from the Dale Carnegie Corps. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah, that's not, I mean, that went away probably at least a decade ago, but like there was at least, there was like a solid dick.

Do you remember the rules? Some of them are very funny, aren't they? Um, I'm, that's a really great question. Okay, I'm mixing up two books here. I'm mixing up the seven habits of highly effective people, which is by Stephen Covey or Covey. Okay, yeah, but what's the, what's the Dale Carnegie one? It's like, oh, how to win friends and influence people. Isn't that the one?

Yes, yes, yes. How to win friends and influence people. Yeah, that's why, okay, I was like, what is the seven? I don't remember rule of seven. Yeah, I think that one is somewhat based off of, I think the one I'm Carnegie stuff. A lot of it was like, you know, one thing I remember well was like the tricks for remembering people's name.

Yes, that one is. It doesn't need to also say like, make sure to use the person's name seven times within the first 30 seconds. Like you use their name and like you, there's tricks. Like, we go around the room and everyone. does this action for their name. Like, so if I'm, uh, tan or bared, I'm, like, you know, like one of those sun tanning things that people would like, you know, like, so I'm holding that.

Tan, bear. Tan. So then everyone remembers my name, you know, that, whatever it was, that sort of thing. But yes, uh, I don't remember almost any of it. I remember the naming convention thing. And I mean, it's just stuff that you would. Yeah, like, it's like, all the stuff that you would do in all the books. Yeah.

Oh, it's like, smile, begin in a friendly way. Don't criticize. Give honest, sincere appreciation. Let other people do the talking. Ask questions. It's like, I don't know, maybe in the day and age, some of those things are lost on people. But that kind of is kind of have to me like, don't be an asshole and try to be interested in the person you're talking to. But I was voted highest achiever by our peers.

Gaming the system over here. And I was given. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Did you get a certificate for this? A plaque. an actual plaque. So you're basically certified is what we need to.

That's the point. I have a plaque with my name. Like they had to, they actually remember this now. This was probably 15 years ago. They gave me the plaque and the name was empty because they got like an actual engraved name plate to my name that they sent me later that then I like was sticky that stuck to the

plaque. You know? Sometimes I think I made the right move by not being part of corporate America for the last eight years and I hear things like this. And then you hear stories like this and you just wish, dang. I just waste the eight years. of my life being on my own. What am I doing over here?

Yeah, you could have went through the D.L. Carnegie course. Well, maybe I'll look into that when we get off this. Yeah, it'd be worth paying. I would pay for it yourself. It was me. Yeah, there was a guy. I knew a guy. He was an alumni and he was voted pretty high.

He was the highest achiever. Is that a thing? We've never heard of that. Yeah, no, we don't do that. That was made up. Whoever is bastardizing the system doing this there. We can assure you not a part of what we're doing. There's never been a highest achiever award.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it's called to, which is funny because I'm like, that's so generically like, what is that? What are you saying? Like highest achiever in this sense, like what does that mean? I want to really break that down. Oh, right here.

The Dale Carnegie Highest Achieveer Award. What is it for? Is the top peer-voted honor presented to graduates of the Dale Carnegie Cors? I nailed it. Awarded to students who best demonstrate dedication, personal growth leadership, and consistent application of the Carnegie Principles. Doesn't that sound like me?

That's, yeah, you nailed it. You want to know the deepest secret of that award? Yes. I don't know if I've, if I've ever, I just remembered it. Oh, God. I don't know if I've ever told anyone this. Oh, boy.

This could crumble the entire Dale Carnegie system. This is a real thing. Okay, I'm actually just remembering this now. I don't know if I've ever told this, not because it's a deep secret, because I felt that completely unrelevant to any situation that's ever come up in my life until this moment in this story.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're telling me this has never been relevant until now. I am shocked. It's barely relevant at this point in time. I really need to come clean about this. Actually, I don't feel. like this is a confession because given the same circumstances, I would do it all over again. This is an award voted on by your peers. I sat through this class. You know, we did. I don't

know how many sessions. It was a lot, you know, like over the course of months where this was like one day. Oh, this wasn't like a week workshop or anything. It was like maybe it was a full week. Maybe it was like five. I think, I think it, no, what we would do is do like a couple days. Then a month later, it'd be like two days again. and then a month later. I was thinking you go home and do homework. Oh, I was thinking you did like an hour a day for five days. That was what my mind in my mind.

Oh, you did like eight hours a day for eight days or something like that. Okay. You know. So it was multiple sessions and they were like two day sessions each time. So I and say there was 30 people in the class or whatever it is 20 to 30. I'd been through. multiple sessions with all these people.

This was like 15 years ago. Are these all coworkers? Are these all co-workers? Not people that I actually work with generally. Yeah, but they are all. But they work for the same company that I do. And we get done and at the end you have to go around and you have to do, you know, give you the piece of paper to vote for highest achiever.

And I'm, I literally remember sitting there. I was sitting in the front row and I kind of was visually looking around the room. And I'm like, none of these people did very good. I'm like, I don't really, I'm not sure, like, I'm like, how am I going to pick which person I vote for? Like, I actually think a lot of them did really poorly. And like, they,

you know, they're like, upholding the Carnegie Way here. Like some of them, like the only ask is like, take your hat off and, uh, participate.

And I'm like, they didn't really do that. They grumbled about having to take their hat off. And like, they never like willingly participated in a single thing. And I'm like, I don't know how I, could vote for anyone and then I'm like I don't who is the best in this class it was me I was

obviously the best at this like I'm voting for myself because by default I'm like I like because I even remember at times I'm like yeah this skip I'm just going to go overboard on it like I'm gonna like okay yeah I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like there's nothing to loot like I can tell you are insane. If there's one thing people in small town Midwest love doing, it's role playing. I can imagine that one went over a range. 50% of the thing. And these are mostly, you know, pretty blue collar.

Like guys in the field. Workers. Yeah. And I'm like, and a couple times I remember being like, all right, I'm just going to, I'm going to do the whole thing. And like, I'm going to make this funny to myself. And then the day is more bearable. And we got to it.

I'm like, it has to be me. I'm like, who else? anyone going to vote for. Like, I'm obviously winning this and I'm like, I don't feel right voting for anyone else. I took my hat off. I did the roll plane. Come on, people.

I at least kept my complaining internalized, you know, or like wait until I got home to do it. I didn't audibly art complain about having to be there to the person that's getting paid to teach us it. You know, like. To the guy who's just doing his job.

And then when they announced me, I'm like, obviously, winning this. All right. Well, it doesn't make a case for that being very prestigious. Well, out of,

you said, what, 30 people? We'll say 25. 30 is maybe an exaggeration. It probably wasn't a close vote. The bar wasn't very high. No,

probably not. But I did vote for myself. It didn't say you couldn't vote for yourself. I think that's fair. I think that's totally fair to vote for yourself. And, when you have such prestigious awards and certifications on the line. Maybe I'm exaggerating.

Maybe there was a couple other decent people. I can't really remember the specifics. But I do kind of remember something about being like, I'm probably the best one here. I'm going to vote for me. Do you have this? Is this on your LinkedIn profile anywhere? Do you have this?

I think it is. Okay. You should do like, tomorrow, like do hashtag flashback Friday and like a picture of you with your plaque. Just thinking of the time I won the Carnegie Award. I wish I could find it. There's a hilarious picture of me from that, actually.

It was, I think I legitimately weighed like 285 pounds at the time. You're just full. And they gave, I won a few different things. And one of them was this tiny little pen. And they made me stand there like this with the pen to take a picture. And the way my shirt looked and stuff, I legitimately looked like enormous in this picture. Like you're holding just a toothpick.

we have awarded this tooth thing. It was like this comical picture that they then posted on whatever, and I'm like, I look like such a dofus. Like, this is ridiculous. Like, this is,

like everyone that would see this to be like, this seems like a joke or whatever, you know. Oh, God, yeah, if we could find those photos, that would be.

I remember that photo because that one released. And I'm like, I feel. dumb in this picture and this is dumb and but whatever. I guess that's what we're doing. Yeah. Here's my, here's my decorative pen that I just won. Mr. Carnegie himself.

Not to be confused with the, with the old industry of Titan of industry. What's Andrew Carnegie? Yeah. No relationship. What did Andrew Carnegie? What did Andrew Carnegie own? everything. Was it railroads? Was it steel in railroads? Was that what it was? Maybe a steel. It's actually kind of a, um, yeah, steel. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Andrew Carnegie.

Hmm. So anyways, um, shopping versus a hobby. So, so that was the Massanomics title topic. Dale Carnegie courses. That was a 15 years in review. Strap in everyone. We just. We just, got warmed up for the title topic. So what is the thought on, you know? So I guess just generally speaking, what's the premise, though? I don't know if we've ever said anything other than what. Yeah.

Okay, okay. Changing gears here. Changing gears. They're going to change gears back to where we started. Okay. All right. Shopping or actual hobbies. So we're going to talk about, there's two things here. There's the hobby of shopping and there's the hobby of lifting and training, you know. Right.

And you don't have to do both of them. And sometimes I think one gets confused for the other when it really doesn't have almost anything to do with the other. And sometimes I think, sometimes I think the. hobby of shopping gets confused for helping training when it's actually like well it's just you are just supporting your hobby of shopping yeah yeah it is just and and that's the whole point here is that like yeah everyone likes to do even even guys that don't want to admit it they they like to treat them they like to shopping yeah they like to do a little shopping than what the conventional thought of female shopping yeah you know they're maybe not going to the mall and you know right spending a paycheck but

they're hopping online and they got their you know you got your your your lists made of what you need to finally get strong and or you know your rainy day fund of it's fun buying new shit everyone knows that it is you know it scratches that itch just that consumerist itch in you where it's like i need this i mean there's very few people listening that have possibly purchased more gym equipment online than i have true actually there might be no one listening that's purchased more gym equipment than you actually yeah uh but i think you know i think sometimes people do get confused as to, you know, the hobby, the hobby of lifting and training is not the hobby of shopping. Like, those are two very, very different things. And I think from a public

service announcement standpoint, it might, like, because I think it's, it's good, it's fine to have both. There's actually nothing wrong with having either one of those hobbies. There's nothing wrong with having both of those hobbies. But I think for me even, mentally, it may be like cleared up some space in my mind where I was like, oh, yeah, you know what? Actually, all this time spent like searching and researching things, it actually doesn't necessarily mean better training. It can, possibly, but like nine times out of ten. It's really just a distraction. Or super marginal.

Right. It's very, very marginal. And like, it's like, you know, I think once you realize that, though, at least you have the self-awareness, it kind of frees you, you know, from that. And then you can be like, oh, yeah, I am just. treating myself here. I'm going all in. I'm just doing a little, doing a little shopping or no, it's training time. I think once you can be aware of it, I think that's just helpful for people. A great example of that to me that I experienced as of late is the attachment thing because I've added so many attachments to the repertoire. And I've probably added in the last couple months like seven different ways you could do a tricep push down or tricep extension. Yes. And I,

actually get it if you're a competitive bodybuilder maybe something matters and you're like yeah i want to do this to work this head of the tricep whatever that's actually more of a different exercise than a different attachment because i'm actually not even that's not even the argument it's kind of doing a movement this attachment yeah and that's then there's something to that something at least there is something to that but when you're saying the same movement with just six different attachments at a certain point I'm like, yeah, this doesn't matter for really almost anyone I hear talking about it. Well, it doesn't matter for the training part. No.

It matters for the fun shopping part. Like that part, it does. It does matter for that part. It's fun as hell. Yeah. But for the actual training part. It's fun looking at my wall of all these attachments. I'm like, oh, this is cool.

Uh-huh. But for training, I could use any of the 12 of them and get 90, at least every single one of them 90% the same, if not like 98, 9% the same effect for probably 99 on most of them, honestly. Like it's not really different at all. And it's highlighted to me most and like that's an extreme example of that. Right, because there's so many options that are just. Right.

And they're really affordable. So they're shopping. Like people can do a lot of shopping on those. Yeah. They're really small so you can get a whole bunch of them. I'd done it to the extent larger than probably then again, almost anyone listening. But at the end of the day, I still recognize that it doesn't really make any

freaking difference. It's just cool. I guess it's cool if you think it's cool to have them, you know, if you think it's cool to have them. Right. And this actually, this concept applies to a lot of hobbies, actually. You know, lifting's not unique here. No, it's everything, really.

You know, it's kind of anything that, you know, you could say it. in our part of the country, fishing, hunting, vehicles, motorcycles, like it kind of applies to all of it. Yeah. I feel like we've said that before in some conversations, too. That's where I think we've, like, we've kind of circled around this topic before without, yeah, without really just, yeah, hitting it directly.

But, yeah, I don't think I have any real profound things from this other than, I do think it is just helpful to be aware of, mode you're in at any given time. Are you confusing, are you confusing shopping for, oh, this is training actually. This is to help my training.

Yeah. Or you just, if you can actually admit that nine times out of ten, they are just completely separate things that don't really help the other one a whole lot, then you can just do both of them guilt-free. You don't have to play any games with yourself. That's the watch out. I think of what you pointed out is that if you want to be training serious,

seriously, don't lose sight of that because of just the shopping. If you want to, like some people, I mean, we know people that don't really care about the training, but have really, really cool stuff. And that might be what they want, you know, like they might not. But I know there's people that probably do want to train hard, but then get sucked into that game a little too far. Yeah, into the shopping. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's like the watch out, I guess, for the people that do want us, that do take the training side of the hobby very seriously to watch out not to get sucked too far down the rabbit hole that you lose sight of that. Right. And if you're having trouble, you know, making decisions or you want to make more intelligent decisions, Jimradar.com is a great place to where you can make more intelligent shopping decisions so you don't have any buyer's remorse or, you know, confusion about what is the best piece.

It's all there. It's the playbook's there. The secrets are there. You just go there. It tells you what to do. You said gym radar.com. That sounds like a great site. I'd love to meet these guys.

That's what I was going to say. I'd still love to meet those guys someday. Maybe home gym con. You know, we're like five, six weeks away here. So our booth, I think is coincidentally,

is it not far from yours either. Yeah, we might even, are we right next to them? That would be cool. You know what? I am going to go on LinkedIn and send them a DM and say we have a former Carnegie High Achiever.

Yes. Yes. And that will, get their attention. That could potentially be helpful for them. Not a high achiever, the highest achiever. That could be helpful for them when they're just a generally high FG. Yeah, when they're rubbing shoulders with all the owners of these companies at home gym time.

They'd be like, well, we've got to talk to this guy was highest achiever in this Carnegie course in 2010. That will catch their attention. I'm going to send them that DM. Well, I think they'll appreciate that. Actually, you know what? they probably get a ton of DMs on LinkedIn. I'm going to send them a DM on Spotify. That is what I'm going to do.

Ah, you know, the back channels, is what we call it. Yes. Yeah. You said something that just reminded me, Jim McDy was the back channels. Every time the word back channels was said on the Massonomics podcast,

it's in relation to Jim McDy. I associate the word back channels of Jim McDy. And you, do you know what movie I referenced then when I say that? Was it the sum of all fears or, which I've never seen. It's like almost just ruined the movie for me. I'll never be able to watch it. You don't have it.

You have no idea what some of all fears is about. You just picture me and Jim McDee. Is Morgan Freeman in that movie or not? Yeah. Okay. It's not really a war movie. It's more almost like a terrorist movie, I would say. You know, I think.

I actually haven't seen some of all fears for a little bit. It's pretty good. The bomb is in play. That's a line from some. of all fierce. The bomb is in play. Ben Affleck says that or something. All right. And then Jim McDee pops in, right? But he was on.

Because the back channels. I saw some of the clips of it. You got to actually listen to it. He talks about the story. It's the tell all. It is the tell all. Yeah. It needs to be listened to.

So anyone that was a power cast listener, you know, we had Jim McDie on since then. We talked about it here. there, that sort of thing, but he's never talked about the story like he did in this episode. That was some of the clips that I saw. I'm like, oh, man, he's going into like very vivid detail here. I've never heard these parts. It's, if you were a powercast listener, which I know you were, but to the our listeners,

if you were, if you've been an OG, you've been around a long time and you were a powercast listener, if you were into that at the time when it was at the height, which also for those that don't know that weren't around when the power cast was at its height it was big so influential in the powerlifting community

everyone that was powerlifting was listening to that regardless of like the federation that you were in or anything like that if you were a guest on there Mark Bell would fly you out

pick you up in a limo it was a big deal you would just shoot YouTube content and videos for like four straight days and podcast it was we would literally come to the gym and be like

oh did you see who's on the, did you listen to the power? It wasn't what do you lift to today? It was, did you listen to the power cast? We would do that though. Am I not remembering that? It was a big topic of conversation. Yeah.

Yeah. And I also think I'm right when I'm saying like everyone that was into powerlifting at the time, which is probably a way smaller group, generally speaking, but was listening to that. Yeah. It was the perfect timing of the raw resurgence and, you know, these larger than life characters with everything. it just, yeah, it was good timing.

Yeah. Yeah. Listen to that. I have no idea what we were talking about prior to that. I said back channels. Talking about the Jim Radar guys. I'm thinking of Jim McDee again. Well, also talking about the shopping hobby.

Oh, that Jim Radar is a great resource for the shopping hobby to make informed decisions. It is a really good resource. Is this a, is this a, is this a, Jim Radar Raider report? Actually, yeah, we can go right into that. Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?

Radar. Okay. Last week we talked about the QuadSend, how Jim Radar is the spot for QuadSend user-generated reviews and content more than Temple of Gaines, even more than the official source. I mean, let's be it.

The official source, Jim Radar has all of them. Temple of Gaines' webs. It's getting there. They might get there someday, but Jim Radar is coming in hot. I have a few different topics here. What one should we go with this week? Let's go with, okay, you know what I, okay, one thing I think is kind of interesting here. You're familiar with this phenomenon of the premium dip attachment.

You've seen a few of these. Actually, the UDA. We have a hard time going to a gym that doesn't have a mutant metals UDA in it, don't we? Yep. There's a, let's get some, let's just, let's quit just talking anecdotally here. Let's get some numbers behind this. If I go look on gym radar, the mutant metals UDA is in a hundred and 13 gyms. If we're looking at attachments, specifically rack attachments, this is the number two rack attachment in all of Jim radar, only behind the mammoth

belt squad. Yeah. So that tells you this thing is really freaking popular. And it's not cheap. You know, if we go look at Rogue, right now, this thing, just the base, you know, you just kind of leave it what it's at, $360.60. Like that's a premium piece of gym stuff to do, to do dips, you know, when you can buy it.

Yeah. You know, a huge number of gyms own this. Yeah, huge number. I mean, even Rogue's most base, like my Mattador dip attachment for my thing is like, I don't know, 110. or 120 bucks from Rogue. No doubt there's cheaper options from Rep and Bells of Steel, you know, things like that. Bells of Steel is 108 bucks.

Yeah. So for like 100, 100-ish dollars and those ones are going to ship free with this Rogue one, probably not shipping for sure. You're probably looking at close to 400 bucks by the time you get this thing to your door to do dips. It's 130. Yeah. Okay, there you go. So it's a very premium piece.

But what I thought was interesting is that delta, that gap between like kind of the budget dip options being $100-ish dollars to this premium one being almost $400-ish dollars. That's like a 4x premium there. There's a lot of room to work with. And if you look,

actually Prime has also recently got involved in the ultra premium space of what do they call theirs? Prodigy dip attachment. Yeah, what does that thing go for? One by one gym. The Prime, I mean it's Prime, so I'm sure it's very expensive.

Prime Prodigy Dip attachment goes for $300. So there's what there's does that include the handles? Mm hmm. Attachment. Mm. I'm assuming it does. Okay. Yeah, this attachment.

Because I think you can buy their handles separately also. But yeah, I think you're right. I think it does include the handles. Yeah, featured north handles. So there's this 300 bucks, quite a bit cheaper. And then just to add in here one more, what, what is the other one? Um, is it Vendetta? Do they have a new one coming out to?

Yes. Yes. And what is theirs? Because theirs is like the Omega. This is like ultra premium because you can adjust everything. But actually two, oh, with no handles. That's okay. I was.

Yeah. So you want to add handles of that when you're looking at 430 to 460. Start adding some shipping. You could be looking at close to 500 for your dip attachment there. So that's the ultra premium option. And I mean, the UDA, you can also spec it out to get some some crazier stuff. But. You've seen some really cool colors of the UDA.

Yes. Like Hogan had a sweet one. But when I see all that, that makes me think like, wow, I'm kind of surprised none of the import companies have came in with a really, you know, well, it's a knockoff option. But there is one, Tanner. Have you seen this? Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? No.

Is it get our exed? No. Well, maybe they have one too. Maybe there's more author than what I'm aware of. I don't know. I just was the one. And I'm surprised this is the first time I've seen this. This is the first company I'm aware of that does this.

The blazed apex dip handles seems to be the budget version and you say, well, what do they come in at? $150. And it's, uh, it has the, uh, it's on pre-order or actually for sale. Uh,

it is on pre-order right now. We'll ship out end of June through early July. June pre-order. Yeah, they're now sold out. So they're sold out. It makes me think like, yeah, maybe they do have, maybe they did find a spot in the market here where this was needed. But, you know, it has, from what you can tell from the mockups,

it has the removable handles with the knob in the back, three different positionings. I'm sure it's probably not as nice as the UDA or any of those other options, but it's only $150 too, which is pretty cheap in the scheme of things. So I'm curious if more companies will start to, or we'll start to see more import options on something like that, or if this really is just a Blaz Fitness exclusive, which I can't imagine it will be.

And to know how the quality actually checks out, you'd really need to like see this one. You'd need to touch it in person, I think. Yeah. Unfortunately, they do have a fair number of reviews, but actually, you know what? I think Blaze is doing a weird thing where it's just showing reviews for just any random piece of equipment.

on the reviews for this page, it's not actually showing, it's just showing racks. Like, yeah, no one actually has a photo of this thing for their reviews. So there's one gym on Jim radar that says they have it. I know. And I think that's the first time it popped up for me was seeing it there. But even in their photos, it looks like they have the Rogue Matador.

So I don't think they have. It's iron beats. I don't think they have it on there. So I'll be curious if that product has any traction because it's definitely, definitely winning on the money side, that's for sure. Yeah. And which one do you have? You have the Matador?

I have the Matador light or, you know, whatever the 5-Ace. Five-eighths. Yeah. Does it still work with a 5-8s then? Like is that, I mean, does anything work if it's 5-8s? Oh, yeah. I mean, my triceps are just pitiful. I can barely get strong.

Because of the 5-8s inch heart. Yeah, the 5-8 has been really hindering my strength gains. I've actually thought about just retiring because my rack is 5-8. And I'm quickly realizing like, yeah. Yeah. Have you ever tried getting strong with a 5-8-inch rack? Good luck. It ain't happening.

I was the guinea pig, everyone. Don't do it. You will not get strong, so stay there from there. The holes are 5-8-inch, but so then also all your attachments just only have like a 5-8-inch pin on it. No, I know. Hey, you're a quick learner. This is taking me over two years to get to this far. You got here in seconds.

So it's not just the rack that it's the problem. It's all the attachments too. All the attachments screw you over, too. So it's just a constant battle of like pretending you're lifting, you know. Right. Yeah. I might as well just pack it up and get a two by three rack and just admit I'll never get strong, you know. Hey, don't go that far.

That's enough joking around. I can at least pretend I'm getting strong other than, you know, not putting up the full illusion that I'm not even trying. Don't even joke about having a rack that's two by three or two by two. Yeah. We're not even talking about the two by two guys. Two by two with one inch hardware, but it's not like the same kind of one inch hardware.

Somehow, yeah. It's somehow it's one inch, but no one actually knows what size that is. Yeah, it's like one inch but worse than normal. Yeah, we know they're not getting strong. That's for sure. Oh, no, you wouldn't be able to. Yeah, I'm at least pretending like I'm getting strong over here.

Is that kind of, you did mention the YouTube video, Matt the Matt Wallace home gym tour that came out this week. Last week's was, which one was last week? Antonio. Big Antonio and Huck Finns before that. It's kind of just been bangers of home gym tours. The Matt Wallace one was off to a hot start today with it coming out new.

A lot of great comments on that one. Actually, both. Antonio's and Matt's have both had a ton of really good comments on them. You know, for us, we get used to seeing so many gyms that we just don't. Sometimes it gets hard to be like, what is the one that's going to click with people? And both of those have gotten the comment of this is my favorite gym tour you guys have ever done.

Yeah, multiple times on both of them. Yeah, always fun to see those because that just shows you like you never know the thing that's going to relate to someone else out there. You know what I think is cool that's happening now that I've noticed is when a home gym tour comes out, then if you go to Jim Radar, people are going to that person's Jim Radar and commenting, hey, I watched your home gym tour. It was awesome. Yeah, I've seen some of that too.

I like that. And that's kind of cool to see that. Yep. Which makes sense too because I'm like, well, where are you going to comment to this person at? You can comment on the YouTube video and say, hey, great home gym tour. But you can also go to Jim Radar then and be like, hey, I just watched your gym tour. It was very cool. I love this about your gym.

Make it more personal that way. Yeah. Matt was also doing pretty good of engaging in the comments on YouTube too. Yes. Which that's cool to see you. Antonio was the week before also. Yeah. That's part of the recipe for having your gym tour.

You've got to be in those comments. Yeah. Paul, I think that's, I think Paul, part of the other secret to the success, Paul having the most viewed one ever is you just play it on repeat forever, everywhere you go. That also helps. That's why his house has so many.

That's why his has 85,000 views or whatever it is. Wakes up in the morning, make sure that that repeat is going on seven different phones that he has. Yeah, he wakes up in the morning and moves all of his mice so that, View Maxing his YouTube video, yeah. View Maxing. All right. That seems like about enough, doesn't it? Oh, God, I've had way more.

So what do you think? Was this in the top half of podcast episodes we've ever done before? Definitely in the top 10% of derailment, that's for sure. You can't get derailed if you never got on the tracks. That's what I've always said. If you don't like the direction this podcast is headed, just wait five minutes. Go a completely other direction you weren't expecting. Okay.

Someone else has had to have come up with hard, hard, 69 hard. Can't be the first time. You just Google it over there. That's what I'm in front. I'm not ready to do that quite yet. I'll wait until I get to work. Yeah. I'll save that for the work for the work internet.

I couldn't help but notice you're wearing a tank top. Hmm. It's tank top season. Embracing the summer season here. I, this summer over the last month, I busted out every Massonomics tank top I have. And I'm like, I'm going to wear tank tops. I made a conscious decision that I'm wearing tank tops all summer.

Yeah. And I've been doing it pretty much all the time. I've been doing a lot more of it. You know, I'm actually getting some sun on my arms. So they're not burning the second I go outside, which is good. It's a big first step for me. So now that I got that going in my favor, I got to keep riding this.

The Massonomics tank tops. I'm pulling, like this one's like That's a classic year. I don't historically wear tank tops a ton. And this summer I just decided, now I'm wearing tank tops now. I'm going to use all these massonomics tank tops. Be a free body this summer.

Found my raw power one from a few years ago. Oh, damn. This is a sweet tank top. Yeah, the problem is a lot of those ones I had are with larges. And they're a touch on the small side now. Yeah. The other things These new ones are nice.

I really like the new ones. The new ones are really nice. The silly goose ones out in like every size but one. That one you're wearing is still available and a decent number. There's not very many left, but the sizing's actually pretty good. The lifting department tank I got on. I don't have the silly goose one.

I do have that one and I love that one. I've been wearing that a lot. I do really like that tank top. And great side effect of tank tops. I haven't gotten any bigger. at all for a long time. I've been wearing my tank tops and people will be like, hey, are you getting bigger?

Like, five people have said that to me. And I'm like, I haven't gotten bigger at all. Huck Finn told us, you can just, he's just been shrinking every year for the last 10 years, but he said you do wear the Huck Finn cut and you can just be, I think, actually, Jugi DM'd me one day after something and he goes, geez, how much bigger have you gotten from the last time I've seen you? And I'm like, I've probably lost weight even. You know, I'm like the same at best.

And I told him, I'm like, the secret, my number one secret, wear comfort color shirt, nothing but comfort color shirts for like two years. Yep. They're baggy. Then throw on a tank top and everyone's like, oh, when did you get so big? Like, oh, never have been. Yep, that's a secret. It's a secret.

Not even sought coming. So buy a massonomics tank top while you still can. There's not that many left, but you could still get one. And then be on the lookout for our new drop. You could wait for the drop day and add it to your cart along with the new drop items, along with a couple drink spotters. You really, this is a true statement, you really can't have enough drink spotters. Like there's never been a time at Massaimx Gym has like 40 drink spotters in it.

I always think, oh, it might be nice if there was just like four more in here. Yeah. So that like, the next one is the one that finally makes you safe. Yeah, it's a great phone holder too. It is. Like, don't underestimate it for putting your phone in there while you're working out. I use my DrinkSpotter XL as a chalk bowl. Put a little tape on the inside, cover the holes, and it is a fine, fine chalk bowl.

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Felt it in the Matrix, right? They could. They felt the disturbance in the tank top matrix. Oh, Mr. Anderson. Your tank top. Yeah, all these agents were trying to throw a tank top at him. And he was like, dodging tank tops.

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