Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 535: It Never Gets Easier. It Just Gets Heavier.

Episode Date: July 6, 2026

Does lifting ever get easier... we make a case for why it doesn't! We also stack the Voltra up against several of the other most popular home gym machines to see how it compares. Don't forget to get your submissions in for the 2026 Virtual LHLE Classic this week! EliteFTS Use code MASS10 to save 10% on most orders! BearFoot Shoes Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on every order! Juggernaut AI Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10%! The Strength Co Get some Go-To Plates!

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Social media, website, everything. Massonomics. What's up, everyone, episode 400, or 400, 500, 535. get me out of this time machine and get me out of a 2023 and get me back into 2026. 535 of the Massonomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing. Recorded live from the corners of the Dakotas. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy.

Can you remember back when we were in the 400, 400s, like some peons that have hardly ever done a podcast before? We had never even been to Mount Rushmore to record an episode yet. We had never done that. Yeah. to blur then. But here we are on the right side of 500 at 535, also known as episode 35 of season two. And actually important news here, episode 35 of season two, our newest sponsor of the podcast is on board. It's elitefts.com.

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I was just getting in the rhythm of things. I know this is scripted pretty heavily, but I'm going to go a little off script for 535. I know we always stick perfectly to the script. But I see Big Dad Chad. We've gotten his attention. During the pre-show, I had something to call out to Big Dad, Chad. and I see it sounds like he's maybe, I don't know if he's listening live, but we do have people listening live.

They can transmit this message to him. I want Dad, Chad, please relay this to him, everyone that's listening live. I see Dad Chad in our Discord. He owns, thanks to the power of Jim Radar, I know that he owns the Elite Series single post flat bench from Titan Fitness. I have a very specific question.

And without the power of Jim Radar, I would have had to like email Titan Fitness and pray that I can get someone that even remotely could understand what I'm asking here. But the upright post in the back of the bench, I want to know how wide that is. So someone have, I know Dad Chad owns it because he hasn't marked on Jim Rader along with nine other people. I need him to measure the width of that upright post on the back of his elite series single post flat bench from Titan Fitness. I think he just joined the podcast here. This is very important that it needs to be conducted live on our show so that thousands of people have to hear this conversation about the elites.

Great advertising for the elite series single post flat bench. Also. And Jim Radar. Just curious, how long ago, Dad, Chad, how long ago did you buy that bench and how is it? How's the pad on it? What's the pad like? What's the pad material like?

Did you buy it new or you? He's asked which bench. The Elite series single post flat bench from Titan Fitness. You're just starting the whole thing over here. Yeah, your Titan Fitness flat bench. I'm laughing at his response here. Choice words for it already. Yeah.

That's which is okay. It doesn't need to be a primo bench. But what I really want to know is how wide the upright is. the back post, the post that would go approximately underneath your head when you're laying on it, that vertical post, how wide is it from left to right? That's what I need to know. That's your homework. Okay.

He's saying it's thick as frick. I'd like a specific measurement in inches, preferably as to the upright. More helpful. Okay, well, follow up on that once we have answers to it. That's a cliffhanger for now. There was a certain number of time We're going to keep this under because of your memory card Yeah, we're like really eating into this time right now

This Titan Fitness Elite Series single post flat bench conversation is really Cutting into that, isn't it? It's not helping the cause. Okay. What are you drinking something over there this week? Am I ever? Oh, polar raspberry line, seltzer. Not a bad little option.

Raspberry Lime. You get a little shower, a little raspberry lime shower over there. I'm having myself, I think I've had one of these before, an isopure 15 grams of protein mixed berry protein water. Yeah. You had one of those protein waters a few weeks ago, didn't you? Yeah. I think it was one of these probably.

I made the, actually, yeah, that's good, isn't it? I thought I remember you saying that's good, right? It is good. It's good. It tastes, it's very watery. You know, it doesn't, it's thin, not thick. Yeah. It's thick with one C.

It's just, okay. Yeah, I'm not like double C. It's not thick. Yeah. I did at Costco the last time I was there. I made, I made the switch off of the, what the hell was it? The muscle milk, whatever, you know,

because we abandoned Fair Life. It's just too expensive. We gave up on it. So now we moved on to muscle milk because that was on sale. This time it wasn't on sale, but they had those nerey ones, those cans. I think you had one of those a few weeks ago. Yeah.

And that, not bad. Not quite as good as Fair Life, but it's also almost half the price. So I can make excuses for it. Yeah, you've got to live the high life as we've established. If you're drinking Fair Life, they might as well call it High Life, because that's what you're going to be living to afford one of those things.

Yeah, might as well put it in glass bottles. I remember back in the day when we got all those cheap Fair Life's when they're on super sale at Walmart. And we just were like, it was like, you know, when people that are poor win the lottery, and then they just like do stupid stuff with their money, that's what we were like with the fair lives where it was like, it's like, we were just like, you know, you have nothing to show for it. We were just like spraying each other with fair life chocolate milk at home.

We're just like, we have all these fair lives like, we'll never not have fair life. We have like 20 fair lives right now. These will be here forever. And then, like, the next morning we were out of Fair Life. Yeah, that's how it was like, oh. Like we woke up, we woke up, it was like a hangover scene, like the movie. And it was like, oh, what happened last night? Yeah, everyone had severe diarrhea because they drink so much Fair Life.

Man, one hell of a night, though. All six of us just shitting our guts out. But we lived high on the hog that night off of Fair Life. Well, you can say you did it. Got a lot of protein in that night. Really good macros. The best. Yeah.

This is, are, are we going to play title topic of roulette again this week? I think so. We have a few potential ideas on the list here. A varying quality, but we'll, we'll see how it turns out. So if you hear a title topic jingle, you know, we could be fast approaching a. Title topic. Keep that in mind, people. So if Disturb pops into your ears,

you might know what title topic's coming. It doesn't necessarily mean that it is the title topic because we ourselves might not know what the title topic is just. But we're identifying it as having high potential as a title topic. I would say there could be three to five situations this episode where it could be identified as a title topic.

And maybe as low as one even, just somewhere in that ballpark. It could just be one. I might even forget to press it for that one. we might not hear it at all. That might have been the only time you got to hear it this week. Okay. Where do we even begin this rodeo?

Because we have a ton of stuff. You know what? Okay, I got a, this is almost kind of follow up, but did you see what Boogs did today? He did the 50 Cal Challenge. Yeah, do you see how fast he did it? Yeah, was it 39 seconds?

39 seconds. He also didn't look that tired. No, he got done. And I thought he was done. and I thought he seemed pretty normal. He seemed way more normal than most people that finish that, especially at that speed. I think,

was it, maybe I misremembering it was also, it was on the rogue echo bike too. Yeah, it was on the echo bike. So there's no, there's, it makes you wonder,

I'm very curious if that's his first attempt ever, or if he's taking a few cracks at it. And if it is his first attempt ever, you can't help but think he could shave some more time off of there. Yeah, he's been doing cardio. I don't know if that's been doing cardio. But there's also a difference

for doing cardio and doing the 50-Cal challenge. I got to say it didn't surprise me, though, having spent time with boogs. He is one of those guys. You know he's big by looking at him on Instagram and you know he's strong and stuff. But when you see him in person, like particularly at the ego Olympics,

I think he's a little trimmer now than he was at that point. The dude is in rare air of size. He occupies a lot of space wherever he is. And it's not like fat either. It's all muscle from head to toe. So I'm as straight as they come, but Boogs is a muscle monster.

So, and he's just, he's just, I mean, he's like, I don't know, he's at least as tall as me, isn't he? Yeah. He's six three or right around there. I just feel like his forearms are just like actually twice as thick. Like you could stack both of mine up and that's how thick his forearms are, you know? Yeah. For that matter, Joey, Joey, we talked about at the time too, but Joey is huge also. Like, a guy that you don't realize just how like, and some of it is just like back thickness, but yet lean at the same time.

They have the thickness of a back that's like of a person that's 10% higher in body fat. But yet there's still that lean. Yeah, that's crazy. But 39 seconds, man. That's. Yeah. That's impressive. That is.

I am not surprised, though. Like he is the guy that I would predict to do that. He'd say like when I screamed halfway through, that wasn't the best approach. It really took a lot of steam out of me. When he screamed like that, I'm like, that's crazy to just kind of be holding your breath and exhaling at the same time.

I know the way he screams like that and he kind of does it as a show. And that I guarantee that knocked him back a little bit at that point, even for as good as he was as well as he did. Like I thought when I watched it, that was my very first thought. I'm like, wow, that's something that he's screaming in the middle of it too. Don't do that. Yeah, he's good at it.

Yeah. Very impressive. But he is a freak of nature. So it makes a lot of sense. Okay, a couple of announcements. Photo packages are available for the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic big Josh Phillips photography, is providing that service. It's available on massonomics.com in our shop.

It's one of the top things on the site. You can click on it and purchase that. Whether you're a powerlifter or a strongman, you can purchase it for either of those events, whether it's Friday or Saturday, and he will do the photo, the professional photo package for you. So just wanted to mention that again.

Please get signed up. You know, it's, there's, I think, 12 Phillips is competing in the events. 27 involved in support staff. They're consuming massonomics from the inside. It's a, trying to take it over. Did I,

did we make the joke last week that it's oops, all Phillips's? Yeah, yeah, we did. I want to, can I do it again? Oops,

all Phillipses. Or how about it's the astronaut meme when it was like, oh, the lift hard, live easy classic. Did someone do that one already? Where it's like, I don't think so.

I think Grayson did that. He might have made that one. He might have actually made that one too, where it's like, oh, so the lift hard, Hard-Live-Easy was all Phillips's this whole time.

And then it's like always has been. And it's another Phillips underneath the astronaut max mask. Ah, yeah. So photo packages are available. Get yourself some photos. Then probably the most important announcement of this episode. This episode comes out on Monday, which is the beginning of the submission week for the Lift Hard-Live-Easy.

classic online competition powerlifting meet. So the submission window from that, I believe, is July 6th through July 12th. So it is time to get your submissions in. Notes on that again, it's a squat bench deadlift. We have almost very close to 200 people signed up for that. So there should be a ton of submissions. Actually, I think there's multiple crew meetups happening where people are going to lift together, which is awesome.

That part of it's really cool. so I'm excited to see that next week, that play out. I think probably next weekend we'll see some of that happening. But get your submissions in. That form is live on our website, right? Yes.

So what's the easiest way? Do you go to the shop and click on the lift? Let me tell you the official URL here. Okay. But otherwise you can go to the shop and from the shop you can just go to, we just left it up the meat registration and the link is in there.

Otherwise you can go to massanomics.com slash L. H-L-H-L-E-26-Virtual. Okay. That'll get you there, too. Okay. And get your results in. Because we're, what's our,

we're selecting how, well, we actually can announce this now. Oh, yeah, what's the official number here? We're going, for every 20 entrance, we're going to give away $100 gift card. So that means we're going to give away nine. Well, we're going to give away at least $100 gift card.

But one of those is going to be a grand prize winner. So I think we'll double check my math on this. We're going to give away eight $100 gift cards and then one $250 gift card plus counts as a contest win. Can we afford this? Whose idea was this? Didn't really think this far ahead. We're going to have to take out a loan to cover this. Poor planning on our part.

Oh, my guess this is backfiring big time. Yeah. I would also say in comparison to other popular online lifting competitions that have existed for several years that many people are aware of, we almost had as many sign-ups for this first ever lift, Hardly vZ, as the most recent version of that. Yeah. Is that making sense the way I cryptic, the way I indiscriminately said that? I'm following exactly what you're saying here. Yeah, so what I'm saying is in the year, very first ever year of this, it was very well received almost as well as the most popular lifting competitions. We're blowing this thing up next year. Everyone's doing it.

That's true. We are blowing up. The online one is going to be bigger. We're just going to virtual meet even harder next year and no one can stop us. You think we virtually met this year? You just wait till what the 27 virtual lift hard lift is going to look like. People aren't going to know what hit them. No. Next year I'm saying it.

We're going to make it the largest online lifting competition of the year. He said it. I'm saying it. I'm saying it. I don't know how we're going to make that happen. I don't either. That's a problem for future us, though. We'll get there. I'm just making bold claims. Hey, months ago we said doing lift Hardly VZ and home gymcon within 10 days of each other. That could be future us problem.

Look at us now. It's a big problem. It's a big problem. We're struggling to keep our heads above water and make it work. We both have jobs and families. Maybe not for long, but as of right now, we barely do. Past us keeps writing checks that future us can't cash. Yeah, we're going to have to talk about that a little more here.

Yeah, I actually have kind of a bone to pick with Past Us about signing up for home gym Con and Lift Hard, Live Easy, so close to each other. Yeah, really, really putting a damper on my life. If we laugh about it, maybe it will be funny. Burry the pain deep inside. It will all go away. As long as everyone else has fun, that's all I want. I just hope everyone else has fun.

We'll be dead. This year's final event of the Lift Hard to the E.C. Classic will be our funeral. You know what I always said, if I can't get it up for one more four-day event, you might as well start throwing the dirt on me now. For one more four-day, six, four-day, 16-hour each day event. And I can't get it up for just one more of those of non-stop insanity. Just throw the dirt on already. Yeah.

Yeah. So I'm calling it now, though, 2027, Lift Hardly Veezy online virtual meet. Double the size of this one. Gonna be freaking insane. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. We just do the small stuff, though,

when it comes like, we're only in charge of the small stuff. That was an old joke, I think, from Keith, that he's like, oh, those guys take care of the small stuff. Like, Lift Hardly, VeeZ. Just the little stuff. Just the little ones. So yeah, get your submissions in.

I'm excited to see them. For anyone that doesn't remember, your total doesn't dictate if you win a prize. The prizes are randomly drawn. So I guess sometime later this month we'll announce all those winners too. Are we going to draw them live on the podcast or draw them and, you know, secretly pick out our favorite nine people. I have a feeling we'll figure that out in the future. That sounds like a problem for us to decide in about two weeks when we got a thousand other things

simultaneously. Okay. Now for something completely different. Did you see I made that, I was saying we need to use that image of you and Ross talking on the phone. And I made that one of powerlifting the mentality. And the power of the internet,

like I even forget that this would be a thing that, like sometimes certain things come up that like the first time I'm like, oh yeah, that's crazy. But Samson's 78, 50. The creator of powerlifting the mentality And power lifting the mentality too Yeah, the three He commented on that and it was like

Oh, so cool to see this and how this is still getting views And like he had several comments on there And I'm just, that was one of those things that I'm like, Oh, that guy is commenting on this mass And I'm exposed in 2026. Yeah, that's just really funny, isn't it? It is. It's also really funny.

So I had to go look up his channel here. It's funny because he has like three he has like seven eight nine clips of him playing football in like 2010-ish and then it cuts to sort of just some other random kind of NFL highlight real stuff and then there's oh Zach M. and Esh on the Joe Rogan podcast 13 years ago he has a one minute clip of that and then all of a sudden there's power lifting power lifting actually powerlifting motivation yeah power lifting breaking barriers. There's a couple before he really hits his stride with. Oh, no, Powerlifting Mentality was the first one. Yes, that was the first one. And then, yeah, he has a few more little mixed tapes in there.

But man, what are you? And then that's, that's it, 24 YouTube channels or 24 YouTube videos on his channel. Well, and I like some people were commenting, how Powerlifting the mentality two is actually better or three is the best one. I have to do a little research on those. I'd have to rewatch them all with, you know, the first one is always the one that sticks is so iconic to me. And actually making that video, I did watch most of it.

And I'm like, God, I forgot how long this Mark Bell speech is at the beginning. Because I'm like, I don't want, this isn't the part that I want. When does it get past this? Yeah, it's, well, the video itself is six minutes and 22 seconds. Part two is seven minutes long. These are, these are, you know, comprehensive pieces here. I like how that resonate with, you know, all the comments of like, oh, yeah, if you know, you know. And it's just like, yep, there is this group of people out here that resonates

with it that like watched this when it was new while it was new also like along with us from all parts of the world I remember it so in that clip or in that video you have the clip of uh brandon lily right wasn't that at the start of it and I remember at the time thinking that is the largest person I've ever seen in my life yeah and now I think part of the internet desensitizing you and everything I'm like no it just looks like I guy that probably power lifts like it's just totally change your perspective on what big is it's It's crazy. Yeah.

Also, like the one liners from that, like so many of them that I even forget. You know, I always say, I always quote the part where it's like, I fell with a thousand 80 on my bet. You know, I always say that part. But it's actually the beginning of it. I forgot how good it is where he's like, so I got a question the other day about the CNS. My favorite question. And he kind of like does the sarcastic thing about like, quit worrying about your freaking CNS. You know, he's like, so I.

So I got a question, another question again the other day about the CNS. One of my favorite questions. And I just was like, oh, yeah, that really does take me back. Yeah, I got to watch these tomorrow. I'm going to watch these tomorrow before I left. That's what I'm doing. I'm going to watch them before bed at this podcast. No, I can't watch before bed.

I won't go to four a.m. Like, I've got to go to the gym now. I'm going to actually watch one before the gym tomorrow. I am. I'm going to do it. See if it gets me jacked up a little bit. Yep. For old time sake.

Okay. World Cup update. Take it away. Yeah, I'm curious what your update is additionally. So I can't even remember what potential game we talked about last week. I don't know who won that game. I still don't know a team that's won a game. I have no idea where it's at what stage of the process. I feel like I actually know less about the World Cup now than I do.

I barely even am aware that it's going on. I don't even see anything about it. Do you see anything about it anywhere? I don't even see it. Like if I go on Facebook or anything. The only thing I see it pop up is on YouTube. The YouTube just wants to feed me World Club videos for some reason. I haven't watched them,

but that's the only reason I know the World Cup is going on for sure. I believe in the Discord last week, someone made a comment about Canada, I think maybe progressing to a certain round. but I don't know that for sure. So yeah, I know no more than last week. Not to not give Canada credit, but I wouldn't have picked soccer as their sport were there.

Well, I want to pick football as their sport either, but. Yeah, that's true. Kind of a hockey country, isn't it? Typically, yeah. Probably get sick of that stereotype. I think we're all hockey players up here, don't you? Yeah, you got to go with what you're good at, though, right? That's true.

You play your strengths. That's what I've always said. But really, at the end of the day, isn't soccer just hockey running around on a really big grass field without hockey sticks and with a ball instead of a puck and no ice and larger goals and like you can't fire? Yeah. Yeah. But besides that, it's pretty much the same. Pretty much hockey, right? Yeah, pretty much.

Is field hockey pretty much soccer? I have no clue at all. No clue. Is field hockey pretty much lacrosse? Ah, that was going to be one next question. They are the same, aren't they? Aren't they? Is it exactly the same?

Is that a synonym? him or is there any mild difference with that? Now you've got me very curious. No, field hockey and lacrosse are distinct sports. I had no idea. That's okay. They're both team stick and ball games, but they differ. Okay, field hockey uses rigid sticks with a flat side.

Lacrosse must use the little net thing then. Yeah, they do use the little net. I know that. Okay. And some people get longer sticks in lacrosse than other people. Yeah. See, that does not exist around here at all. No.

Neither one of those. You know, what's like, have you ever seen the clips of this sport? I don't think we've ever talked about this, as long as we're just talking obscure sports. It looks like basketball, but there's no backboard and like nobody jumps and like everyone's bad at it. It's like basketball, if nobody was athletic and there's no backboard. Otherwise, it looks just like a basketball hoop. It's like just like a basketball hoop on the end of a pole.

Yeah, it's like netball. I think that that's what it's called. And it's like if you took everyone that was good at basketball, and made them play a different sport that was a lot like basketball. I've seen pictures of this net like this before, but I've never, I didn't know if this was actually a thing or if it was just.

It's a real sport. Is it an Olympic sport? I don't even, like, it's, I'm not sure. There's probably more people that are into netball than there is power lifting. Probably, actually. Netball is probably a larger. It looks like they're filling up stadiums at certain point

and at least having people in the crowd. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Basketball Do you think it was like a way to make basketball more affordable? Is that why they did it, you think? Because they didn't have to pay for backboards. Yeah.

The bank The Backboard was like The vertical solid surface is what was, uh, we were good to do this until that backboard quote came in. That's where we draw the line. That's the part of the game that makes it more exciting.

I swear there must be rules that they like can't move or be like nobody's allowed to run or jump. Well, I haven't watched it. So I'm just going to take your word for it. That everyone is immobile in this. Okay. Do we want to get to supporting our supporting members? Yes.

Yes, I do. We haven't really crossed a title topic bridge yet, have we? No. We're backloading the episode. episode here. Yeah, a lot of potential title topics in the second half. Okay. Supporting our supporting members is a relatively new segment. It's one of the ways that we give back to everyone that supports us. Please, if you enjoy the Massonomics podcast whatsoever, the number one way you can support us, you can do a number of things. You can buy t-shirts and merchandise and drink spotters,

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You're going to get bad service and it's going to suck and you're going to regret it. Yeah. So, yes, all that to say, please become a supporting member. You might get shouted out like these crew members on this week's supporting our supporting members. Almost Big Jared competed at Full Sturker in Idaho. It was a strongman stone event type thing it looked like. And his best event was the stone to shoulder with a 185. pound, Atlas Stone.

Big Eddie and his wife competed at the Pennsylvania Renfair Celtic Fling Highland Games. She won the Cabra event. Eddie took third place in his division. Very nice. Brad the Pad also competed in his first Highland Games competition of the season. He got second place in his men's lightweight masters class. Hell yeah. Big Trevor, listen to this from Southwest South Dakota.

a big Trevor in preparation for his lift, hard, live easy strong man competition coming up here in just a couple weeks, just completed the Black Hills 100 mile race. Oh. Done in under 30 hours. Wow. And then he's going to do a strongman competition here in Aberdeen in two weeks with us. I guess he doesn't got to worry about his cardio, huh? His cardio should be okay.

He can run 100 miles. And that's not hyperbole. But is cardio, though. Cardio, man. Yeah. Wow. Actually, a funny story about that. I don't know if I shared it, but my sister-in-law said they were out hiking.

They ran into someone in a silly goose shirt. What? And they said, what the heck? And he's like, yep, I'm preparing. I'm running a 100-mile race. And then I'm going up to Aberdeen to compete in the Lift Hardly Easy Classic Strongman competition. Who is this man? It was Big Trevor, the very man we're talking about right now.

So he is out there. He's being seen by the world. Yes. Big Antony. Did you hear this? Did you see about this? Big Antony, who actually tuned into the pre-show for the pre-show. The pre-show is our show before the show. We do host it every week prior to our recording. It's only for supporting members. We don't record. It's only way you can listen is listen live. Big Antony. Big Antony. It was actually his first time tuning in this week. We always like to shout out people that tune in for your first time. So if you do come for your first time, please let us know. But Big Antony got engaged. All right.

Get the funeral paperwork ready right now. This guy's got a funeral coming up. He doesn't have a home gym, so he doesn't have worry about selling that off yet. And it looks like they got engaged in front of the Massonomics billboard. Oh. Wow. That's an engagement PR for one of our billboards. Yeah, big dad Chad

competed in his first powerlifting meet. It was Bummies beat down. He hit a 540 squat, a 336 bench, a 551 deadlift. There's Antony getting engaged in Matthias Cash at the billboard. What? I thought that was Anthony with a picture of himself. There's so many levels to these things. I don't even know what's going.

Nobody even knows what's going on anymore. That's very funny. I like that. So Big Dad, Chad, did this powerlifting meat, and he said, I don't know. I'm curious if this is a fact. He said he had never been in a commercial gym before this. What? It's for real. It doesn't even seem possible. That's what he said. That could have been a joke. No, he's listening live. It is a fact. He had never been in a commercial gym in his life. How old are you, Dad, Chad? I'd say, you know what? Just take a few weeks and go see what's out there. Like you'd never stepped foot in one?

So the first time you lifted, you were in a home gym then. Or a school gym, I suppose you could say. Backyard. Okay. Well, there you have it. Isn't that wild? What a wild story. Really, really crazy.

That's pretty cool. Okay. Also, a big dad, Chad was going to. measure that Titan bench upright for me. Yeah, I heard it's pretty thick. That's what I heard. Not home now, so he's going to check it out later. Okay.

SoCal crew meetup. Big, did you see this? Did you hear about this? Big Conner, big Grant, big Andrew, big mofo and big David. We're all lifting at the Stringco Costa Mesa. They brought a freaking circus dumbbell in there. Grant was probably like, what the heck do you do with this thing? This doesn't look like a barbell to squat on my back.

What is this contraption? He probably had a sign. It said no circus dumbbells allowed, and they brought it in anyways. They said, our crew, we're bringing it. Hell's coming with us. Looked like fun. Big Chapman did a mock multi-ply meet where he did an 804 squat 606 bench and a 600 deadlift. Nice.

Big George got promoted to technical sergeant. I think that means he's technically a sergeant. I was going to ask you how that works. I don't know. That's not, I don't know. I'm not familiar with that term. It might be an Air Force thing. I'm not really sure.

Had to double take this. I'm like, am I shouting myself out here? It's not me. Other Big Tanner was this week's guest on unpaid and underrated. Big Tanner, of course, owner of Husker Power Lock Collars. You can go listen to Unpaid and Underrated. Hear more about Husker Power Lock Collars. Going to be used at the Strongman event for the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic.

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We're turning the meat off. Yes, we're also canceling the meet. So I'd get out there and get recruiting any of you that want to come do the meet this year. Okay. What about a certified training facility of the week? Yeah, I think I might have a little something worked up here. Sponsored by our friends over at Jim Radar. We don't know the guys personally, assuming they're men.

Actually, I shouldn't assume that. We don't know the men or women over at Jim Radar personally. Don't know their sexual preferences. If they're straight. Other don't know. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. I mean, whatever they're cool with, we're cool with.

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You ready for this, Jim? Yeah, what do you got? We are looking at a little place called the cable compound. I can spell that one. The cable compound, you say. That is now officially marked the certified training facility of the week.

If you're watching along live, go let on Jim Radar go leave a comment on the cable compound and let him know hey you just became certified training facility of the week we're ready to dive in yeah there's a lot going on here at the cable compound isn't there holy 90s yes so we are in uh fish hawk florida has two animal names for the name of this place that's pretty crazy sounds made up sounds very made up and the owner is chris cable compound he joined april 3rd he has 500

four points on Jim Radar, which is not enough to put you on the leaderboard these days. You're barely on the leaderboard these days. I'm just barely hanging on. I'd probably spend more time on Jim Radar than almost anyone, and I'm just barely on the leaderboard. You're on in 97th at this point. I got a grant Brogey at 98. He had to go review a couple of things because he slipped down out to like 101, so he did a couple reviews to stay on the leaderboard.

I got to funnel my time from working on Jim. radar to just padded my numbers on gym radar. But this place, 230 square feet, it is a garage gym established in 2024. He's got a very extensive bio here. He says it's the fourth iteration of the garage gym over the last 20 years. So this is no newbie to garage gyms. He's been around the block. And he said his three prior gyms were gifted to others in need of a gym.

That's wild. I don't know if he's just giving away gyms. Like sounds like a type of guy you want to be friends with. over here. And this is a relatively new gym for him. Yeah, there's a lot there. You should go read the bio on the website. And then if we go and look at the equipment brands, his top equipment brand is Rogue, second place rep, third place JD Jim Equipped, and he's got 94 pieces of equipment. So when you're seeing Rep Rogue and JD Jim Equipped, we're talking Primo stuff here. Yeah. And there's a lot of good stuff. He does not have,

uh, no reviews yet. No reviews. But he has maybe the longest comment I've ever seen left on Jim Radar that he has personally written here. Do you see how long that comment is, Tanner? Holy moly, what's you talking about? Um, someone said, I was wondering about the bullfrey is Hydra. Yeah. And boy, did he go in depth. This guy's a wealth of knowledge. I can tell just from that. That is the, that is like one of the big perks of Jim radar though. Like this, the Iron Vault had a question about the Bolt Fitness Hydra.

And you don't have to post it on Facebook and potentially have people hit on you. Yeah, he's like, I can't find any reviews on it? Can you let me know like what you think pros and cons? And then he writes this freaking well curated short story. It could be a blog post on its own. And the guy's probably like, wow.

This is like better than anything. A simple, it's good would have been, would have done it. But I'd be like, oh, that's pretty cool. All right, should look at these photos? Yeah.

So the first picture here, looking at the gym, what's interesting, and maybe this will reveal in later photos, but it looks like he has either a two or three stall garage, and one of the stalls is the gym. Because he has, you know, he has the epoxy floor coating, but the, the, hell of a nice epoxy floor coating. Yeah, the mats, though, only cover half of it. So he is, it looks like, still using part of his garage as an actual garage.

But man, just this first photo, the sheer number of things in here. I don't know how he actually has this much stuff in one stall and it doesn't look that crowded. It's like an illusion. It's playing tricks on me because I can't, I almost just feel like we got to go through some of these photos so I can tell what's going on. Because just from this one photo in what appears to be a stall, I see a Temple of Gaines multi-flight. a rogue, what's it, the monster utility bench or whatever they call that thing. There's a rogue rhino. There's a, I can see repens, I can see wall control, I can see shelving in the back.

And then you have this crazy like cable crossover machine. And I don't know what that actually is. And it looks like, I can't tell, but it looks like it's connected to another rack that also has the torque relentless ripper hanging from it. The thing about his cable crossovers is he has both the rep Athena and Rep Ares 2.0. The Athena is the selectorized side-mount functional trainer, and the Ares 2.0 is like the rear-mounted functional trainer. So I wonder if he stripped those apart and did something here because he has a, well, let's get more photos.

Maybe this will reveal itself more. It says in the description, yeah, Athena with rogue cross-s. or with rogue monster 70 inch cross member for cable crossover setup so that's what he's doing yep that's pretty cool it is really cool he made a giant commercial cable cable crossover is what he did yeah by combining rep and rogue parts that it it is cool I don't think I've seen one like this but it does have that commercial again I'm wondering how is this all in a one stall of a garage I know a little suspicious uh the next photo we got the temple gains multi-flight which it's it you know you got a pretty interesting gym when the multi-flight is the least noteworthy thing in it.

Right. He's got that rep, whatever the hell they call their like cable tower slash lap pull-down machine. And that seems like a very nice piece. I don't know if we ever came across one of those in a gym. Do you know what this leg extension, leg curl? It's a bolt one that he has here? That's a great question. Let me think it is.

Machine here and see what kind of machines we got. I he's got the bolt fitness storm series hydra adjustable leg extension seat to the like curl combo. Well, that's what the question is about in the in the comment, isn't it? Oh, yeah. I can see he's got a mini split up there and I can also see out of the corner of this photo the prime's stability arm or stability pad just coming out of the ceiling somewhere there. Yeah, I saw that too.

So you must have the prime shorty bench because I can see some of these prime attachments on his wall control. Look at all those JD Gym equipped attachments that he's got his wall control there. One, two, three, four, five. Yeah, he's got five of them hanging out the wall. I don't have one yet. Looks like some premium stuff there.

What's that one called on the upper right of his wall control that? Did Onon have that one? Yeah, that one's used for like tricep. It's like the ultimate tricep bar or something like that. But you know, you don't have any of the pull-up bars that do the reverse angle on them in the gym. B Eatern.

Get one of those, I guess, huh? Good. Lap pull-down bar thing, situation. So, yeah, that's a good collection there. What else do we got? Yeah, the prime stability arm. Okay, what is this other rack now? He has another rack.

Okay, it's a rep rack, a PR5,000. Yeah, that's where he has the Ares 2.0 functional trainer. Yes, that's on there. And then he has what looks like the bulletproof setup to. Yeah, he's got a VTS bulletproof rack. attachment on there. Yeah. Man, he likes this.

He ain't lying when he calls it the cable compound. He likes his cable exercises. It doesn't mean. I'm starting to understand the name now. Is it all making sense? Piecing these things together as your spoon feeding me the answers. Does he have the Temple of Gaines like grip machine or forearm machine? Is that what that is?

Does he have that? I got to take, which picture is that? I want to see this. It's the one after the, oh, yeah, he has the cell. Staling Rist Curl Machine. Yeah.

What is that? I need to do a little recon on this one. Talk to Yoni. That's like a real missed opportunity to throw a seat on a piece of equipment, isn't it? Right. Where is it? Where do you see that?

It's, see the phone where you can see the weapons in the corner. Yeah. Behind it there. Oh, yeah. Okay. Nice. Pretty cool. Is that a selectorized machine?

Well, is that selectorized? I can't tell if that selectorized stack is for this. Or if it's back in the corner. I can't tell. Yeah, it is a selectorized machine. Wow. That's insane. How much does this thing cost?

Yeah, what's the price on that? I got a look. It's basically just a steel beam. It's just an upright with a seat or with a pad on it and then a stack. Yeah. Which means it probably costs a lot. Yeah, whatever. We'll keep going.

Okay. Yeah, the repins and he has the black widow cart down there. I can recommend. bench he had oh yeah the prime shorty bench i would assume that's that one is another what's this rope one this like a torque rope relentless rope or whatever i think is what they call that thing yeah he's got the ripper and yeah more g or yeah more wall or wall control more attachments there all good stuff weapons a uda because of course gots to have that uda yeah what's the car that's what I was just checking out.

I was waiting for you to get to the car. Boy. It's blue. It might be a BMW. Might be, but I just can't quite tell from just that. Is that badge on the front quarter panel, not a stock? Is that like a stick? Oh, I'm not that far yet.

Oh. Oh. I was looking at the rear quarter panel, just trying to guess just from there. Oh. Let's see. Oh, it's an alpha Romeo. Oh, it's the quadruful.

It's the Julia Qualified. Quadrofolio, that's a high performance machine right there. All right. You know, Ferrari, they made the V8, or they made their eight cylinder engine, and then Alfa Romeo said, chop two of those cylinders off, and we'll take it. So it's basically a Ferrari-derived engine in this sucker. It's high performance there. That's all the way from Italy.

Yeah, I think it's one of the best looking cars, too. It's kind of old at this point, but it is a good-looking car. What did Big Steve in Chicago? What kind of car did he have? It wasn't an Elf Romeo. Oh, no, he had a Maserati. Oh, yeah, that's right. Is that Italian also?

It is, yeah. Also Italian. But a few car manufacturers from there, huh? Yeah, have you ever heard of a little company called Lamborghini? No. Well, a little company called Fiat. Now you're speaking my language. Now you're speaking my budget language.

What do we got? Torque. We talked about that. We got the Sorenx Bulldog pad One more description What's this one? So yeah

The Athena with Rogue Yeah we talked about that JD Jim And that great Just blue Quadropholia Oh love it Good stuff

Hell of a gym Man What I'm wondering though A lot of going on there But do you think you could get strong In the cable compound Oh hell yeah Yeah

We're getting real strong And fish hawk In the cable compound Pretty sweet Jim Great You gotta look at it on gym radar and decide for yourself, how is he fitting all this in a one-stall garage man, so he has a three-stall garage. One stall is for the Alpha-Romeo.

Ferrari-Romeo. The guy at the Pan-A-Sarri-Par-A-Ram. Who's that that said that? Our friend, the owner of Panada. What's his name? God, I can't remember his name. Messy. Yeah. But in this three-stall-stall. garage one stall is for the car another stall is empty assume it's for probably another car and then he has

in this third stall this is a loaded third stall that would be like the most loaded and still functional third stall we've ever seen yeah makes my third stall seem pretty pathetic i can tell you that well it makes you think you could just have so much stuff if you just laid it out just perfectly doesn't it if i just didn't have any kid stuff like yeah it'd be a lot easier too that's well well no need kids stuff. Kids ever get one of the giant ass electric car things that just take up like as much as a regular car damn near. Yeah. And then 17 bikes.

From the ages to like three to seven, they basically need a new bike every year. And so you just started accumulating bikes. Goes from strollers to bikes to whenever you think like, oh yeah, that'll be nice. We're going to get rid of that. It's like, that's all right. You got two larger things than that to take its place. There's more. Yeah.

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go to barefoot. Dot store and check out their full collection there. Discount code, massonomics. Okay. Oh, we did World Cup update. Thankfully. Here, I just want, hit that button for me. Hit that button for me. All right. This almost can, and, you know, this could also be a heavy thought segment too. We haven't done one of those for a while. But are you ready? You ready to wrap your head around this one? Yes. So I'm in, I'm in the gym and lifting the other day. You know, I'm really, really trying to get after it here.

I'm kid free, so I'm really focused. You know, there's no kids in there with me. We're really doing work. We're in the zone. We're getting after it. And I have this thought. And it's not, it's not completely original to me,

but I think in cycling, there's the saying that like, it never gets easier. You just go faster. Yeah. In lifting. I'm actually familiar with that. That makes a lot of sense.

In lifting, I'm of the mentality. It actually never gets easier. It just gets heavier. That's a very true. It just gets heavier. Like it never actually. You might even say it actually just gets harder, actually, as time goes on.

You know, you might hit that newbie gain stage in the beginning where it's like, oh, yeah, you're really hefted and heaved and heaving and really riding that high. But after a while, it just gets harder, man. And like, you don't feel that more than when you're prepping for a meet where you're just like, oh, my gosh, I'm just getting crushed every week here. But somehow, somehow I'm just hanging on. You get, you're getting stronger, but it never does get easier, does it? No, because it gets heavier.

Like the second it starts getting easier, it's paradoxical. It is. But I think that's good training. Like if your training's going good, the second it's getting easier, it should just get heavier and then put you back to where it's hard again, isn't it? Yeah. It's also the Ed Cohn theory where people will ask him, well, what did it feel like when you deadlifted that 900 pounds?

And he says, well, what's your max deadlift? And you say 500 pounds. And he says, well, it felt like that did to you. Yeah. You know, which is probably basically true, right? Yeah, you know, at a certain point, if you're actually putting in kind of like an RP10 effort PR, I mean, there's more physical things going on when you have like a thousand pounds on your back.

But, you know, if you have both people, it's, well, they tried really, really hard. You just get better at trying harder as it gets heavier too. Right. Like that is, there is some, you know, efficiencies gain from, from having more proficient technique. Right. You know, like your technique is more dialed in so you're not just like doing stupid stuff between reps and between sets. It's more repeatable, so you're just more efficient there.

But, yeah, it is heavier, man. It does get harder, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I never thought of it in that way, but I think that that's very spot on true. It's really, the only way it gets easier is if you start slacking off. I mean, you might do it intentionally. Yeah, oh, yeah. You have delodes or maybe there's just times in your training where you're like, yeah,

I'm not really getting ready. for anything. I'm just doing whatever, but it, yeah, it never actually gets easier. It just gets heavier. And I, my father or my in-laws were here this weekend. I came in after I got done lifting. I told my father and I'm like, oh, tell you what? It never gets easier. He goes, now trust me, it never does get easier. Yeah, that's almost more of a comment about eight, more specific to age that he's making in response to that. That is. That is the comment. Yours is not really. yours wasn't age-specific.

It was more effort-specific, I guess. I don't know as long as. But that is an additional way to look at it, also where it's like, yeah, in that sense, it also does not get easier, which I could vouch for that. Yeah, for sure. I feel as though that is also an accurate take.

All right. So potential title topic would be, what would the title of that be if it was a title topic? lifting, it never gets easier. Maybe that's it. Maybe that's intriguing enough. Like, oh, what does that mean?

What if you sit down? Yeah, what if you sit down on here? Maybe that does, you know what? Maybe that makes it easier and you get stronger. Maybe that is the hack. Well, you have not been doing leg extension. I know, so I say, swore off sitting down and maybe I've been leaving gains on the table. So have you been doing leg curls?

Yeah, because I'm prone. I'm not seated. Right. I mean, actually, if I had a seated leg curl machine, I just would get rid of the machine. I don't do those. But because it's prone leg curls, I can do those, lying leg curls I'm allowed.

Okay. But no leg extensions. Oh, hell no. I haven't ever, I'm telling you, since the day I swore them off, I have not done a leg extension since then. Has it affected my training anyway?

Nope. Well, it maybe has affected your training. I'm telling you it has not. No, no, it's maybe made it better. In a positive. I'm saying like it has been an effect. I think you're right because the first, first like two weeks that I was doing like split squats,

they were wrecking me. And now they don't wreck me anymore. They're actually getting easier. So, yeah, actually I'm getting stronger. Wait a second. So you're saying they're getting easier. Well,

that's actually, that was my thought the other day was these are getting easier. You're doing them too light. I am doing, like this used to be really hard. I'm doing them too light, but I'm giving myself a break because I'm like, how squats just squatted 500 pounds alone in my garage.

Oh yeah. So you squatted 500, uh, alone. Like I never thought that day would ever come where I would squat 500 alone. Was that this week? Uh, yeah, that was,

uh, yeah, what day is it today? I, it was yesterday. Yeah, it was yesterday. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,

that looked really good though. Yeah. And actually I had, I forgot, I didn't even, I couldn't even remember this. I had to go back and I had a video in Bryce's garage. I squatted 500.

And that 500 was tough. It did not move fast. Like, it was, it was a grinder. So your one now was a lot better. Oh, this one, it doesn't even look like the same lift. I was actually shocked because I'm like, ah, I wish I would have moved a little faster.

And then when I looked at the video from a year ago, I'm like, oh, that's, that's way, way different. That's, yeah. So were you nervous at all about that one then doing that by yourself? A little bit. I mean, you get, you know, you have the safeties and everything set, but it's still at the end of day, 500 pounds alone. Like, I've just never done that before. 500 solid ass pounds.

Yeah, like there's something about loading five plates on a bar that's putting it on your back. And putting it on your back that always gets you going. And then when you're alone in the garage, when you put it on your back, there's only so many places for it to go. Yeah. Yeah. That was pretty hype for it. But, um, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So is that, will you, would that, are your heavy squats done? Like, I'll have one more next week.

So is it heavier than that? Yeah. I'm, so is that your heaviest one? Next week will be, yeah. Next week will be, yeah. Next week will be your heaviest one.

This week's the last heavy deadlift. Next week's the last heavy squat and last heavy bench. So you have to do a heavy deadlift this week then still? Yeah. Do you have any idea what that? Is that a single then? Yeah. They're all singles now at this point. And then usually it's like a drop set of like just a two and it drops it way down.

I don't know. If I had to guess I haven't looked, I could look and just know the answer. But then I'll think about it. I'll think about it all week. So I'm not doing that. But if I had to guess, I'd say the last heavy deadlift will probably be. like 515 to 520-ish somewhere in there. So it would be pretty heavy then too.

Yes, it's be very heavy. Assuming that's what it is. Assuming that's what it is, and I do it, that is my heaviest deadlift in like almost eight years or something. So. Yeah. Yeah. There's some big numbers out there.

So you're saying the hay's getting in the barn. I'm stuffing that hay in as hard as I can. That's what I'm doing right now. Yeah. Yeah. Sweet. Okay. So it's not getting any easier, though, also. No, it's actually not getting, actually, actually, this is the hardest prep I've ever had because this is the closest I've been to full speed ahead on any of the, I should say in the last three years.

You know, two years ago was just, I was kind of slowly building back in. And it was just like, every session just felt pretty damn good. Like there was not really much where it's just like, oh, it's just you're gaining, you're getting stronger all the time. Yeah, it was like the relative, the numbers were just relatively smaller too. right yeah. Especially compared to what you've done before. So it was like not very much pressure. Like I think my biggest squad of the prep was like maybe 445 or something like that.

So it was just, you know, it's just less taxing. And then also I was easing back into it. So like that prep wasn't physically challenging that. I mean, at the time it was. But in the scheme of things,

it wasn't that bad. Last year I hurt myself about two months before the meat. And so I had to dial things way back and then try to ramp back in, which I was playing catch up. So like I couldn't pile that on. either. So that was kind of a weird prep. And so this is the first one where I've been sort of following it through correctly. And it gets heavy. It gets heavy. All right. But I didn't have one other follow up here. This ties into this pretty good. I kind of feel like I have been underutilizing

chalk. I think I've like forever have been not utilizing it to its full potential. So on your hands for the bench and deadlift or on your back for squat or? No, my hands for deadlift. because I'll be the first tell you, I do have a bad grip. My grip sucks. My grip is not good. I need to commit two hook grip, but I just never do because deadlift already sucks for me.

And then let's like make it suck even more. I'm like, I don't need to make this just the least enjoyable day ever. So I just can't commit to it. And the other day in the gym, it was very hot. And like lately when I grip, when I go,

I'm like, nope, I'm already losing the bar like slightly over 450. Okay. And this just, and like that starts to be all I'm thinking about is I'm just not hanging on to the bar. That's a problem. When your grip isn't hanging on on deadlift, it slows down the pole so much. Yes. Well, and then I'm thinking about that.

It's like, am I going to lose this? Like, I'm not thinking about deadlifting. Totally ruins the lift if you can't hang on, honestly. Yeah. And I've just been kind of just applying some chalk just sort of against, you know, across where your calluses are there. Like, that's kind of been the extent of my, because I've always been like, well, I have super aggressive grippy bars. Like, why do I need a ton of chalk for it? Also, you go to the gym and you see people just.

use and abuse chalk to levels that you would. I mean, there's guys that they can't even touch the first warm-up set without having chalk on, you know, that's also never been my approach either. But, you know, it's been so humid, like just the sweat levels are up lately. And the other day, I'm like, God, okay, I need to get, so I did chalk from there to my fingertips and in around my thumb. Like, I really got it on, which I will say for a lot of people, it's to be like, well, that's just how much chalk you put on.

Like, it's not. Right. And it was for the first time in like a long-ass time. that I was deadlifting and thinking, I actually feel like I got this damn bar strapped to me right now. Like it is actually attached to me. And it made me think,

I think, it made me think for the first time that I actually have the right level of chalk here. And I think what other, the other part that maybe where this was catching me off guard over time is I believe that component of being outside, you know, when it's 80 plus degrees,

it's really humid. Like you never get that level of, you don't quite get that level of sweaty in a climate controlled environment. Right. And so I think I've always just, kind of been downplaying that in my head of like, oh, I don't need chalk.

And now that I've used more, I'm like, no, I do need to be using more chalk. Maybe that'll be the secret grip weapon. Probably not. I don't think I have any secret weapons, but it might help like one or two percent. And that's all take whatever I can get at this point. That does make a difference, though, because when your grip starts to go on a deadlift, it's impossible to pull it the same. Like, everything changes when your grip starts going.

Even for me, even when you just, even when you don't have a super good grip to where it's like even just it moves that like just fraction of an inch when you start and all it does is just slide and pull on your skin right from the start and you're it's you're just in a bad place from the beginning so if I can mitigate that a little bit I'll be better off all right so the tip here today is use chalk on your dead lefts you know it's go watch uh one of the go watch the video of us at jujis go watch the video of the grip competition in my garage that's what I need to be like chalk everywhere. Well, you literally had chalk everywhere at Juji's.

Yeah. I need to live that life, though. I need to embrace it, is what I'm saying. I can vouch for the chalk because I've been messing with the Thomas inch dumbbells a lot, and some days I'll do it without chalk, and it is a lot harder without chalk. It makes a big difference, even if my hands are not sweaty and hot. Like, it just makes a big difference, particularly on that implement. I know that for sure.

And like all grip things. Yeah. That feeling of once you actually got it, it's like a level of confidence that you don't typically have. Oh, yeah. And then you're like, oh, this is easy. What was it so hard for?

Yeah. Why was I trying hard here? There's nothing too. This is easy. It was like locked in. Just grab it. Yeah. Okay.

How about this game? We played this game last week. We played the Brian Shaw game last week. Called it, Would you Rather? I haven't come up with a better title for this yet. So at least for now, Uh, no title.

Do I have music for this game, though? Just wondering if I have any specific music. You know, it's kind of like a this or that kind of game is sort of what it is. Yeah. Maybe that seems like, uh, would be the... Bagelry. It should be a proverb free country. You can roll with that.

Or that or what do you think about this? Can I say to that? Oh, yeah. Okay. So this week. this or that would you rather assume you have no other machines in your gym okay you get to add one price doesn't matter would you rather add a vultra or the freak athlete hyper pro hmm this is a good comparison i think i would rather add the vultra in this scenario okay you would have the vultra green checkmark

So does this mean the Voltra sticks with me the whole time now? The Voltra was always going to stick with you the whole time. Oh, okay, okay. That's the way the game works. I have predetermined the one that sticks that we're going to compare all against. All right, here we go. You can only add one machine in your gym. Price does not matter.

Would you rather add the Beyond Power Vultra or the GMWD-L-E-O-8 leg extension leg curl machine? I would rather add the Voltra because the only thing I use the leg curl machine well, it's a leg curl leg extension machine, but I do only use it for leg curls. So I would rather not because it's a bad leg curl machine, but because I'm not a leg curl guy, I would rather take the Voltra in this scenario.

Would you rather add the Beyond Power Vultra or the rogue rhino? The rhino is really, really good at what it does. It's super overbuilt. It's also enormous. Me personally in my home gym, I would, if someone

was giving me both for free, they said, pick one for free, I would still pick the Voltra in this scenario. You can only add one. Would you rather add the Beyond Power Voltra or the Fringe Sport Walrus Latt pull-down low row machine? You said, I'm assuming I have no other machines in my gym right now. No other machines. Okay.

I just have a rack sitting to my gym as all. Yes. I still would take the Voltra in this case. Yeah. Okay. Last one here. Would you rather add the Voltra? Vultra or the rep Arcadia Functional Trainer.

So the main thing here would be the Arcadia Functional Trainer gives you dual capabilities. I don't really do dual exercises. So that's not a huge benefit for me. But the Arcadia is really well built. It's really good at what it does. It's still going to be a little less versatile than the Vultra. I'm also assuming in this scenario I can get a few mouth.

for the Voltra and do some things with it to what's usable here. Yes. I think free given the option, I'm still going to pick the Voltra, I think. Clean sweep, Voltra. Wow. That one was a lot easier than last week, actually. Yeah, so Voltra, I was trying to pick my best option. Do you think we left it?

Is there any machine I left off the list that you would pick over the Voltra? Well, I tried to go for the... I mean, there's machines I would pick over the Voltra if I had to spend my own money. But in this scenario when you're talking, someone's like, hey, pick one. You can have it. Like, I'm going to pick the Voltra in most scenarios because,

because of the versatility and because I didn't spend money on it. But, you know, where the conversation would get different is like, okay, you have to spend your money. Or you have $2,500 to spend. Yes, you have $2,500 to spend. Which one are you going to pick? I probably would have answered several of those questions different. Right.

Because it's actually not $2,500. It's more like. Fort Walrus lap pull down low row for $1,000 or whatever the price is. Right, because if I want to do it. $1,500 to buy also the rogue rhino. Yeah, because if I want to do the Voltra, it's like, well, you need the Voltra. You're going to need a seat. You know, you're going to need.

You got to sit on your house, yeah. You're going to need a seat. You're going to need some, probably some type of rack extension to get the damn thing up high enough to where you can do an actual lap pull down. You're going to need some mounts like, okay, so yeah, I've spent like $3,500 now to do that pull downs and it's still not really like the best lap pull down machine either. I don't think it is at least. So that's where it does get a little different is, you know, when it comes time to put

your own money down. But yeah, put your money where your mouth is. Still seems like a pretty legit piece though. Okay. And that's from a skeptic over here too. Yeah. Potential title topic right there, maybe. Potentially.

There's potential in it. I'll just. Just to be on the record. Just to be safe. I had a comment about bacon. Oh. That I just wanted to get out there. My hot take on this, I don't know that I've ever said this.

But have you ever had a bacon cheeseburger before? Yeah, I actually think bacon on burgers is a little overrated in my opinion. I think it's 100% overrated. That's my statement. I used to be drawn to it that like I don't know why I'm ordering. ordering this because I think I'm getting more. Like I'm like, I'm getting more meat. And as time has gone on, I've decided

most, A, most of the time it's not done well. Like the bacon, it's like. Well, most of the time, the bacon's the shittiest bacon you can get is the problem. That's the biggest problem. And it's like chewy. It doesn't cleanly bite. So you go to take a bite and the whole thing doesn't break. And then you're pulling the whole thing.

And then that's one issue. Also, I just don't even think I like. that flavor on my cheeseburger as well anymore. I'd rather just taste like a cheeseburger without bacon on it. I like bacon. I just don't really want it on my cheeseburger. I would still eat one and a good one I'll be like, this is good.

But generally speaking, I would probably prefer the option without bacon on it. I 100% agree with you. I typically, when I look at burgers, steer away from the ones that have bacon on them because if I'm looking for something outside of a standard cheeseburger, I prefer something that's doing something more exotic with sauces and other things

rather than relying on bacon to do the heavy lifting because it's just such a flavor that it feels like everyone does. But it is the thing of the bacon is usually cheap, poorly done. Like you said, it doesn't come off clean. It's just, I don't think it's that much of a value add to an actual burger to justify like the extra $4 they charge you to have like these two little pieces of bacon on it. I also strongly dislike that feeling when you go to take a bite and the bacon does not cleanly bite and then you're pulling the whole thing with the cheeseburger.

It's like when they got a giant ass pickle spear on there. And then when you do like shove it back in to finish it, like no, you go right here back in your place or like, you know. Yeah, I don't like to play that game. So then I just got to eat it, you know? Yeah, so then you're just eating a slice of bacon. So then I just got a cheeseburger with the side of bad bacon. that's kind of what's happening after a while with those I think it's overrated right I agree

100% agree it could be done well and it could have a time in place but I just but yes it could be but that's not that's not also a cheeseburger is good already like it didn't uh yeah I'd rather take some you know fry up some onions put some other stuff on there rather than bacon that's what I would that's what I would pick or like a um an onion onion ring on a burger, would you like that? I don't care for that one as much either. I mean, it's fine. I don't care for that one as much either.

It just becomes you're just putting sides. Like, yeah, I don't want fried breaded food on my burger. Like, I want stuff that compliments the burger more than other fried bar food, you know. That's like, oh, it's a burger with mozzarella sticks on top of it. You know, like, well, I feel like the onion ring one, a lot of times those burgers typically have, like, barbecue sauce on them. That's what it is. Okay, so you have a burger with cheese. That's the burger.

there's an onion ring and barbecue sauce. I'm like, this just tastes like barbecue sauce now, actually is what it ends up tasting like. Yeah, the barbecue sauce burger is a whole thing, I guess, too, isn't that?

That's not high on my list either. When I see barbecue sauce on a burger, totally edible and it's still good, but it's just not very high in like my top five preferred burger flavors. It's not really mine either. I prefer a little more traditional condom. I like a good yellow mustard.

Yeah. And I like regular ass ketchup. Yeah. And I also like pickles. I do like to pick the pickles off and just eat them and then just let the burger be its thing. But I also like lettuce and tomatoes on burgers too. I think those have a place. Like Culvers does it.

Culvers does it right. Culver's good for talking just fast food burgers. And obviously, in and out, it's good at what they do too. Like they got that. Like, it's good.

It's just good. I do not like mayonnaise on burgers, though. I don't mind. It's still pretty good. But it's, I think I just don't like mayonnaise. You got to have the lettuce,

the tomato, the onion, all of it. If the mayonnaise is on. there. Otherwise, just, I would agree with that. meat mayonnaise on it, you know. But I do like Big Mac sauce, and that probably is like half mayonnaise. So oddly enough, I do condone that, but I'm not much for mayonnaise itself.

I don't really like a white condiment on my burger. Yeah. That's the wrong color. I know what you mean. Yeah, that's why you mixed in with the ketchup and the mustard. Yeah, you get it mixed. I actually do think if you get it mixed in enough, then you're like, well, that it just stack actually became

It all evens us. Yeah. Yeah. Important topic to cover, obviously. Very much so. I want to get a radar report this week. Yeah, I got one more question for you here, though. So, all right.

You need to tell me, you need to tell me where this ranks on the proper country scale, okay? It seems like a new game that we're doing. Oh, I just have all these things happening to me. So, okay. Do we have, like, music? Oh, I think we have music for this one. Whoa. I mean, we specifically do.

Madelwee is a me. I'm not going to crap on this guy too hard because he did find out I have a podcast and he said he's going to listen. So maybe this man listens to this. So I can't be too aggressive here because if he listens to it, he's redeemed himself in my book. If he doesn't listen, well, then he's fallen. Larry from the gym. No, no. So all right. So we, my wife and I, we don't get to go out a ton. You know, she works. I work. We got kids. Life is happening. It's a rare occasion when we get to leave the house. And it was not too long ago. My sister-in-law came over and it was like a Sunday night. My wife's like, we're leaving. I'm telling

her she's got to stay here with the kids for a little bit. And there's a bar just a few blocks from our house. So like, we're like, we're just going to be gone for like 45 minutes. She's like, yeah, cool, whatever. Okay. So we go over to this water and hole, the local water and hold the bar. And we sit down. It sounds like a real shwanties. It's kind of like that. And we sit there. It's Sunday night. So, you know, it's pretty slow. There's not much going on. And there's a few people in there, but, you know, nothing crazy. And so we're sitting there having a few beverages. We order just a little bit of food. And this guy comes over, clearly having a good time. You know, I don't knock him for having a good time. I've been there. I've done that before,

a lot in my day. Johnny, good times over here. A real good time. And he wants to, you know, chat it up with us, you know, really, really set up shop and just hang out. And, uh, That's fine. We'll entertain him. We'll have some fun. But what starts, what starts the whole question is he comes over and he says, all right,

there's karaoke going on. What song are you singing? And we're like, uh, boy, I don't know. He's like, I'm like,

well, it depends. The song I sing is going to depend on a lot of factors here. It's going to depend on what, uh, what time of night it is, what the crowd is, who I'm with.

You know, am I singing this alone? You can tell he's already like, why, you're asking me way too. You're supposed to answer the question. I'm like, well, these are all factors I consider in picking the proper karaoke song. And so I asked a few more questions. And he's like, well, you just got to pick a song. You got to pick one.

I go, I'm probably going with the doors, actually. It's typically like my go-to karaoke. And his answer here is, huh, never heard that song before. And my answer was, the doors isn't a song. That's what I was confused. I'm like, is the doors a song? Like, are you talking about something else? The doors is a band.

Yeah, he didn't. How old was the guy? Huh. Never heard of him. I'll have to check that out. And I go, wait. How old are you? Yeah, how old is he?

That's like, my first question. Ah, 32. I'm like, okay. We would have old enough to know what the doors are, though. Yes, you should know what the doors are. If you would have said 21, I could be like, yeah, it's a pose. I would have said, man, okay, yeah, how far we've fallen as a society. But 32.

We're old enough to have experienced the doors. No, but like when I was in high school, people wore shirts with Jim Morrison. Right. On them, they had the, like, they existed as a thing that people, and I don't think this is, I don't think this is exclusive to small town South Dakota by any means here. No. And I was just actually shocked when this guy said this. And it really surprised me, really surprised me big time.

What Doors song were you talking about, though? You know, I kind of go, my go-to karaoke song for the Doors is Touch Me. Oh. I was thinking like riders on the storm or something. Oh, no. It's a little too long. I was like, I was like,

that'd be an intense, quite the, uh, quite the, uh, quite the mellow, uh, just settle on in people.

We're going to be here a while. You know, if I got, I don't know if you remember Tanner. You were there, but you might, maybe were two under your, did you put in the doors,

uh, for at karaoke. Well, actually I did. Oh, you're talking about your birthday. I did, but yes,

remember my surprise birthday party? Yeah, was it when I turned 30. surprise birthday party and it was a karaoke party and there was a lot of karaoke song that night and me and Mr. You, my former roommate, we hit a pretty mean tell me more, Greece.

Oh, yeah, I might have been there for that. I can't remember if I was there for that part or not. I do, did you put in for the doors when we were at karaoke the other night? I did. I did. And there was obviously way too many people in front of me so I couldn't go.

So did you do touch, did you put down touch me for that? Yeah, I put touch me by the doors down. And oh, another one, we used to always, when we go to Deadwood, there was that, that oyster bar kind of across from the saloon number 10. Or it's down a little bit, but there was that oyster bar and they would always do karaoke there. And we would always get so drunk and we'd want to sing, what the hell is the meatloaf song, Paradise for the dashboard lights? It's like nine minutes long. And we would do the whole thing. Like, we'd be like seven people in and out because we know all the words.

That one and American Pie by Don McLean, both really long songs, but know all the words. And it would just be like, oh, this is great. Like, step on in guys. Like, we're going on a trip here. And those are all very fun ones. So what was his answer to his karaoke song? I don't even know. I think some country song or something, I didn't.

I was mentally checked out at that point when he said, I don't know the song called The Doors. And I, that's. But so he definitively said he had never even heard of the doors as a band. Yeah. That's what we were like. Did you get into like, well, have you heard of like, like, did you name me? Like, I'm like, I'd be like,

no, I need you to listen to Light My Fire and tell me, have you ever heard this song? Well, no, because we never got there because then I'm like, how old are you? And then he had to like pull off his hat and be like, look at my hair. I'm 32. How old are you guys? He thought we were 28 is the thing. He thought we were like younger than him. I'm like, no, I'm older than you and my wife is older than you too.

And then it was like blowing his mind that we were older than him. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it just went from there. Yeah. Sounds like a good drunk guy encountered me. That's why you go to the bar. You know what people I like the best? The ones that don't do that?

People that are really drunk while I'm sober. People are really fun to hang out with. Oh, it's the funnest. I love to hang out with really drunk people while I'm completely sober. I started just going to the bars at night. Just like really late, like at like 1 a.m. I don't even come until 1 a.m. And I like to stand by the door where people are just being belligerent

and trying to figure out what they're doing, you know, all that. drunk people when you're sober are so fun. Like they're funny. They're never annoying. Yeah, they're not annoying at all. They're like all, you know, they're pretty considered of their surroundings and other people.

They don't talk. Isn't it funny though? But when you yourself are drunk, then it's like, oh yeah, you guys are funny. Yeah. Yeah.

They just got the best jokes the whole time. They never overstay their welcome. That's what drunk. people are good at yeah yeah also i the other day in town i went to a concert they do these little so what was the proper country oh the proper country oh yeah how much of a how much of a proper country where on the proper country scale does it fit doors are are yes yes we used to be a proper country yes when when someone says the doors and they go no i don't know that song oh no no that is we that they do not understand that we used to be a proper country you know what it reminded me

of actually that scenario. It reminded me of the time at the Arnold when we have our dark side t-shirt with the rainbow with the beam of light entering the plate and a rainbow comes out the other side. Oh yeah and someone said there was a guy that no lie is in his 60s and he's like oh is that some type of gay thing? And I go what? You know the rainbow in the plate. I'm like nah, pink Floyd man. He's like hmm, don't know it. And this guy was at least 60 at least. I do remember that. That's crazy. Mind blowing like actually maybe. How could you not? Actually, maybe. Could you say, no, never heard of Pink Floyd? Like potentially the best selling album of every time, all time, and you've never seen.

And also the person, I do remember that. The person was like of the age that they probably would have been of an influenced by music age at the time that it was most popular. Yeah. According to this, it's the fourth best selling album of all time, Dark Side of the Moon. 30 to 45, well, yeah, a lot. A lot. A lot of them. And this guy in his 60s apparently.

But it was like he had never even heard of the band all. altogether. He's like, I'm not even familiar with Pink Floyd. You don't even need to have heard of Pink Floyd. I think people kind of just recognize the symbol of the light entering the prism and a rainbow comes out as like, yeah, I don't totally know what that is, but it does something to do with music or a band. Yes. I mean, go to Walmart or Target. There's probably someone walking around with that shirt on right now. Well, is it the most recognizable album cover? I'd say it's absolutely up there. Like, it's got to be in the top 10, if not the top five, top three. Like what album cover is more universally recognizable? It is the second picture that

comes up. It's actually the first picture that stands lone on its own is that one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it absolutely makes a case for being at the very, very top of the list. What would be a more recognizable album cover? What would even be a paralleled one? You could say the Beatles, that Abby Road one, you know, walking across that. Okay, there you go. Maybe that one beats it actually. That's a good one. You could say the Nirvana one with the baby. The Nirvana one was the one I was going to say, but I don't know if that's just me. But that's also a lot newer too, though. It doesn't have extra, you know, like these other albums have like 20 years on that. Right. But Nirvana one was going to be the only one I was thinking of. Yeah, potentially the Beatles, like Sergeant Pepper.

The Beatles, you know. Beatles is a good, uh, that's a good one. Yeah, but not many. I mean, that, that is right up there at the top of the list. Yeah. Okay. Good out. Good. Oh, I don't know. I forgot to tell you though. Um, um, So we went to this concert in town this weekend. Oh, perfect little sweetie was there. It looked like. Yeah. Before we even left the house, I just thought to myself, I'm like, I know. I just know I'm going to see Bryce at this.

And this concert isn't, like they do these like every single weekend all summer long. So there's tons of them. But I'm like, I just know. I know I'm going to see Bryce at this thing. And were you guys, was it rocking the country fast? No, it was not that. It was not that. It was very much not that.

And I'm sitting there and my wife got up to go. get a beer or something. And she goes, oh, by the way, Bryce is here. Like, the way she phrased it, she made it seem like he's looking for you. And at the same time, I got a text from Bryce like, hey, just letting you know, we haven't ran into each other for like a week. And I'm at a concert right now. I wasn't sure if you're here.

And I'm like, well, he's saying that because he sees me. Yeah. And so I look behind me and like 10 people behind me, he's there. And so I get up and go over and talk to him. He's like, oh, you're actually here? I'm like, I thought you texted me because you saw me. He goes, no, I had no clue you were here. I'm like, I'm 10 people in front of you.

And so he goes, I just had a feeling. Tommy's going to be here. And I go, I said the exact same thing. I thought before I leave the house, I'm going to see Bryce tonight. And yeah, there he was. That's funny. A couple things. A couple things now that I'm thinking about it.

As far as concert etiquette goes, just crazy to me. It is, you know, more of a kind of a chill kind of vibe. A lot of older crowd here. So everyone brings lawn chairs to sit and watch the concert. There's no standing, which okay. No standing. No stand. Well, there's no rule saying you can't stand, but everyone sits. You know, everyone's sitting the whole time. And, you know, whatever. Okay, that's what everyone's doing. Fine. Okay. No big deal. It's pretty family. You know, there's a lot of families there too. You know, it's a wide variety of ages. But we get there. And at a seat, a sitting only concert, we put our chairs down. And the lady behind us got mad for us putting our chairs down in front of her. I'm like, man. Why?

How open was this? that was there going to be. She was at least 10 feet behind us still. But I'm like what I'm saying is like was that were all chairs 100 feet from each other? It's a concert. Isn't there going to be a bunch of chairs all over and buy? Oh yeah. We were much closer to the people in front of us than she was to us. Right. And we didn't have any issue. And at first, where are you supposed to go? Don't put that tall chair in front of me. And my wife immediately starts just like arguing with her. I'm like, yeah, we'll move the chairs. So I switched the chairs thinking this will appeal. her.

And it's really, you're going to do that. You're going to sit in front of me. She's still just running her mouth. And my wife just loves to give it back to her. Yeah, yeah. And so then she eventually gets up and moves 40 feet over to the side to sit in her chair. Yeah. And then we watched her.

So you guys won. Yeah, we won. Well, and then she spent most of the night just on her phone anyways. So I'm like, okay, what was the point of this all? You were just came here. And this person is in her 60s. Like it's not. So was she going to not be able to see the concert because there was a chair?

We were sitting down. That's the thing. I don't get it at all. Like, it doesn't make sense. But there was someone sitting in a chair in front of every person that was there, right? Like, there was a chair in front of every, it wasn't like, it wasn't like there was a football field of space. And you guys were like, oh, let us plop down right in front of this lady. This was early in the night.

So everyone is still kind of within 10 feet or so of each other. Like, and it only filled up more as time went on. Like, if it wasn't us, someone would have been there in the next half hour directly in front of her, you know? You ever been to a concert inside of arena when the chairs are. are so tight together. You can't almost even like sit side by side. Or my thought is like 90% of our 99% of concerts that are outside where you just stand. And if you don't see it, you don't see it.

You know, that's how it goes. Yes. So that was the first one when I was talking to Bryce. This one's a little more understandable talking to Bryce. Oh, Bryce is enormous. Yeah. We're getting excited. So all of a sudden we're standing up and talking and doing our thing.

And the guy behind us a little ways. Come on, guys. Can't you move? and Bryce's like, oh, sorry. And so we were actually on the very edge. We moved like five feet over to where we're standing on the sidewalk now. Bryce is like, is that good? He's like, yeah, thanks, man.

I'm like, okay, I guess. That's actually a more reasonable. Yeah, and he was kind of smiling about it the whole time too. Also, Bryce is just. Well, and we were standing. So much taller than average people. We were the only one standing in the area. So that one was understandable.

But I'm like, oh, man, I've never gotten yelled at an outdoor concert for one sitting and then also two for standing before. I've gotten yelled out at a concert for just talking by Clint Black. How could we ever forget? He's like, hey, no talking in a concert. Don't speak. This is a silent type of show. People are here for me.

Not you. Could you imagine if, I mean, none of this makes sense. No, you can't have anything either. Say we're doing some live podcasting session where everyone's paying $50 a person to come to. And also there to have a good ass time. Yeah, they're like, we're going to have fun. Also, podcasting is even not extreme enough because it's like by nature. Podcast is just chatting, talking at this level.

Like a concert is singing loud and playing musical instruments loudly. So it's not even, it's still not even apples apples. but if someone was talking that had paid to come and we're like, oh, excuse us, we're, the show's up here. Eyes up here, guys.

You know, at that point, I'm like, ah, you already paid. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I couldn't imagine,

man, you know, if you come to be entertained, I mean, and it's not like you guys were, had the whole, the whole venue looking at you. No.

Until he called you out, that is. Right. Right. No, no, it wasn't even. Didn't you tell Huckfin,

and he said, I'm never listening to him again. Wasn't that on the podcast? Did you tell him that? I think it was. I think that's the clip. He said he's coming off the gym playlist. He's on there and I'm taking him off.

He seemed serious about that too. And then he went and benched at the bean, I think. Yeah, he said at the bean. That's it. Clint Black is off the playlist. Clint Black will never bench at the bean with me again. I also at that concert, a guy flagged me down. He said,

I love Massonomics. I like this guy. Supporter from Brookings. What was the name? Sean, is the name. Is he a supporting member? You know,

like some people I don't always ask that question. I feel like I'm pressuring people too much by me asking that. Like, oh, you're not really. This conversation's done. Yeah. But it's not,

yeah, I don't recognize that name as a supporting number. Yeah, he said he said he did get to, he was in town for his daughter. state softball tournament a while back and he got to come lift at the gym. Oh, nice. Yeah, said it was pretty sweet.

At your garage gym without you knowing? No, in Messonovics. I was at your house, man. You never showed up. I got to get a lift and you're like, it's not open to the public like that. What the hell? Yeah, that's ringing a bell to me. That sounds a little familiar.

You're sure it wasn't Mo? He's working. It goes around. You know what? Yeah, you're right. It was that guy. We toured his gym. He's been to my house a few times.

Boy, he's been to my house a few times. Boy, do I'm forgetting his face. It was actually Mo and you just the whole time. Okay. Oh, should we put a bow? What's our, we're going to make that timeline?

I think if we wrap this up soon, we're going to make our timeline. No, I've already, it already said it's expired. Okay. Okay. It must actually, the timer must have been on. though because we are sitting good so it must have just uh must have just happened yeah it overestimated okay or did we want to do a radar report oh we got to do a radar report all right we'll do a

radar report then we'll do a radar report we also got to hear from uh what is it juggernaught a i or a strength co right strength co all right back of my bullshit radar reports are back people we might have forgot last week but did somebody say radar reports are back yeah we're still waiting Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention? There it is. It's even seemed a little longer after a week off. I think it was. I think the files getting corrupted by adding more and more space every week in there.

All right. So you got a, you got to rate our report. Yeah, I got a rate a report for us. And I got several here, several topics. Let's start with this one. I think this is an interesting one. As we go through Jim Radar, we're building out these, you know, we've talked about this for a few weeks now.

We're really refining these categories. Actually, every category outside of miscellaneous has been refined, cleaned up. It has now subcategories with it. So you can really drill down and compare like products across the entire industry. Love the subcategories. Yeah, with the subcategories. One product category that I think, is interesting is we're going to go to one of the lowest, one of the lowest, least items in a

category on the entire website. And that's the Strongman category. We're going to take a look at that. Okay. I like this category. I think I subcategorized this category. So I'm a big fan of this one. Did a great job of it too, Tanner. Thanks. Finally good to get a little recognition around here. Excellent work. Well, whoever those Jim Radar guys are. Yeah, I mean, they're doing good here. They did it. And when you look at the strong man category. So there's only 202 products in it. It is a relatively small one. But, uh, you know, you got the usual suspects here. A lot of sandbags, a lot of yokes, logs, that kind of stuff. Some circus dumbbells, those kind of things. But one thing that really stands out to me in the strongman category is when you look at the brands that exist and that are in here. Yes.

Is that you notice a common thread. And what that piece that I've noticed is of if you want to if you want to say big manufacturers, Rep, Rogue, Titan, Bells of Steel, you know, companies like that that are, you know, really moving a lot of volume. One thing that you take away from the strongman category is that Titan is one of the only manufacturers really playing in this space.

Yeah, especially like in the budget. Yes, with any amount of product. You know, if you go through, Rogue has some sandbags. They have a yoke. They don't have a whole lot. more. And if they do, it's really expensive stuff. Where Titan, you know, if we just look at the

the strong man products that Titan makes, they have yokes. They have multiple farmers handles. They have multiple logs. They have a hoosafel. They have a hoose. They got the hoose. They got circus dumbbells. They got sandbags. They got even more farmers handles. They got a

rickshaw farmer's walk. They got even more yokes. They have a loadable huss across. Like, They have, actually, it's only 22 products. But, you know, if you were to compare them against someone like even rep, you know, Rep has five products that we've designated as a strong man. Three of them are sandbags.

Yeah, three of them are sandbags. So really it's like they have two products in this category. I have that yolk even, too. Yeah, yeah, they're, yeah, actually, not for any people. I have that yolk, actually. No. And then Rogue, you know, if we look at Rogue in the same category, Rogue has a few more products, but it is a lot of sandbags.

And it's a few, you know, actually of their, they have 24 products. So technically they have more, but one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Twelve of the 24 products are sandbags. So make of that what you will. And then some of these are really obscure, like this Rogue Fitness Volcano. Have you seen this thing, Tanner? Yeah, I don't really even understand what that is. And then you have like the Slater logs.

Like these are things that most people are not going to be buying because they're just prohibitively expensive. Like the rogue log, the rogue eight inch log, two gyms have that. No one has that. Even their other logs, there's only a few gyms that have these. So it's, they don't, Titan is in a unique spot, I guess is what I'm trying to say when it comes to the world of strong man. Yeah, because even other companies that I might think of that might play with that space

and scope and size and stuff, I'm like, Bells of Steel, what do they got? They got sandbags and they have one yoke. And that yolk is owned by one gym, a gym radar. So nobody has that. They have nothing and nobody has what they do have. What about Fringe? That'd be another. Fringe has a yoke.

That is it. And it's owned by one gym. So there again, they're not relevant in the strong man equipment space. I mean, there's specialty manufacturers. Like you go, Mike Bartos, of course. Yeah, but that's a whole different price point of. Yeah, they're not the volume people. and like their stuff is much more expensive.

Like if you're talking, I mean, it is what they specialize in. Yeah, it's what they specialize in. It's expensive for good reason. It's super high quality, but it's also a low volume,

you know, a boutique manufacturer where when you look at, even like Cerberus, you know, they essentially have sandbags and that's kind of it. You know, if you're looking at very strong

and specific pieces. So, uh, this also kind of made sense for me now all of a sudden when we go to a lot of, like people like to, I feel like I'm talking about this on the podcast way too much.

people like to dog on Titan, but when we go to gyms, gyms have Titan stuff in it. And it's because it's at a price point that people are okay with and it's at a level of quality that most people find acceptable for what they're trying to do.

But this also unveiled another piece of the puzzle to me that we go to a lot of gyms where people train Strongman. And if you want to buy affordable Strongman stuff and get it shipped to you, Titan is kind of the obvious answer here. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

I'm also curious in the, just the most owned Strongman if there's any other brands that are kind of in this category that pop up here and I just Like there's a lot of sandbag manufacturers

Right outside of sandbags though honestly But yeah once you take sandbags off the list Like I feel like half the companies just go away Because that's all they have in this In this category Yeah part of the thing is just shipping this stuff is so weird too Like it makes people not a player in it Yeah because if you build

You get all these smaller regional companies that make strong man equipment is what happens. Very much so. Because if you do the overbuilt big heavy stuff, well, now it's not bolt apart. You know, it's not bolt together. So it can't come apart. And so now shipping is just insane on it. So you end up with Texas power concepts. Snake, is that one called Snake River?

Fabrication. You get ones like this where it's almost is just like regional. There's these TDS ones. There's some of those in here too. Yeah. If you just go through the list, you'll probably find, depending on what area of the country in, there's a strong man manufacturer within a state area. That was another one. That's a more regional too.

Like, they just don't really do go nationwide, though, because shipping is so prohibitive for the product line. I mean, even Slater to a certain extent, you know, Mike Bartos kind of is too. Yeah. You know, that's probably the one that makes it out the most. It is because it's so high end that people just become like, well, yes. I'm going to spend 500 on shipping because I'm buying the most expensive log to begin with. Yeah. It has a reputation that has really gone nationwide where a lot of these smaller regional ones

haven't got to that level yet. Yeah. I think that's a good radar report. Yeah. Yeah. That was the biggest surprise of me is that you see rep doesn't even really try in the space. Bells of Steel doesn't try in the space. Rogue kind of does, but not really.

And it kind of leaves it up to Titan. Like, no doubt if you took Titan products out of the Stromangang, category, there would be a hole in the market there. Right. Somebody's got to fill it. We know just the guys. The guys over at Jim Radar. Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?

Okay. Okay. That was episode 535 of title topic roulette on the Massonomics podcast. our drop from last week the drink spot or chill. I should have actually been using it in my beverage for a little promotional advertising. It's the red that really pops. What do you call this red with the dimples on it?

Dimple red? What the hell did they call that? It's kind of a golf ball texture. It's kind of like golf ball. It might even be called that. And then also the terracotta pocket tea. Have you ever worn the terracotta pocket tea? Oh, I love the terracotta pocket tea.

Yeah. Absolutely love it. I think I benched with it on the. the other day. You did. I thought, oh, can I bench with this shirt? It seems too nice to be benching this thing. That's why I've almost shocked. I'm like, that seems like a going out shirt if there ever was one. Yeah, but then I thought about it. I'm like, well, but then I'd have to take this off and find a different one. And that's, I realized that wasn't going to happen. So I went out and bench with it. I did a pause 340 alone in my garage with it on, though.

So that's got something going for it. Well, yeah, but it was like a board press because you have the pocket. You're right. There was a pocket and a patch. So it's like a double, it's like a two board, actually. Right. Because. it's that extra layer of fabric plus the patch. Yeah. Now I'm realizing that lift didn't even count. I got to go back and scratch it. Right.

Because that's essentially like in between a one and two board, I suppose, right? I wish I wouldn't have even said anything now. I'm not going to sleep tonight. Next time I do it, I'm going to wear it to the gym, and I'm going to put a little piece of foam in my pocket. It just says a little slight cheat. Uh-huh. That's the trick.

put a two cut down a two by four to width that I can just sit in your pocket slat it in there yeah yeah we need to make a shirt

that has a pocket in the middle right for this lift that so few people do and if they do they also bench blocks were invented to like

or have a partner for board for it's like no we're going to make the center mound pocket teeth for board pressing why can't the pocket be in the center

no one's been crazy enough to do it until now. You know if we made those, they would sell because people would just want it on the joke of the board press tea. That's the South Dakota cut. The South Dakota cut also includes a center pocket tea. Yeah, it's even more functional. What if the pocket was on the right breast?

Okay, or you know what? We could also do instead of a center, we could just do a left and a right breast pocket. So that's almost like a fishing shirt. kind of, but on a cotton t-shirt, it's not, no, on a cotton t-shirt, it's insane. But why? If one pocket is good, wouldn't two pockets be even better? I can't argue with that logic.

Like if you just, like if you Google double pocket t-shirt, is that a thing? It seems like people stack two pockets on the left before they, That's like where they do a left and right. Yeah, no, we're trying to be functional here. Yeah. You know, it kind of does this thing of like coming off like, like, nipple covers is actually what it does. You know what actually reminds me of that South Park episode where they rip off.

Yeah. They rip off their, the covers on their nipples and they rub their nipples the whole time. That's not what we're trying to achieve here. Oh, yeah, I think we got to go back to the center pocket. Yeah. Yeah, center pocket's never been done. We'll do that one.

Okay. That's for our cut and sew project. We got time. We'll piece that together. You know what? Get started on it tonight. I don't need to go to bed. That's what I told my wife just earlier today.

Like, I'm like, I, you know, what I've realized, what I've been doing wrong is I think I need to sleep at all. If I stop sleeping, you know how much extra. Like, I'm like, I don't need, like, it's the five hours. I'd have an extra. I have an extra two. hours of work a day. It's the five hours of sleep a night that I think I need.

It's that downtime. I'm like, you're how caught up we'd get if we were just working all of the time, even instead of sleeping. I'm like I, we'd be fine. How much more productive I'd be if I didn't take

breaks ever? That's the hidden, that's the missing link. That's the problem. You ever seen these people that talk about they're like, I don't sleep for eight hours at night. I just like do stuff, sleep for an hour, do stuff, sleep. And by the end of the day,

I just slept for like five hours. But I just is, does anyone actually do that though? No, nobody does that. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's a thing. Isn't that a thing somebody says somewhere? Oh, I don't know, probably. I feel like that's like a science experiment that's been done so many times and like no one can actually get it to work. It's, isn't it like, Polly something sleep or something? Isn't that what they call it where you try to break it into just. But isn't that what they say our ancestors did then that they're like, well, they didn't actually sleep all night long. They like

slept 12. They had like second sleep. There's actually words for I think what they call second sleep. I think they kind of just took like two long naps. Right. Right. They'd wake up in the middle of night and do some shit and then basically go back. Do you know what else they didn't do? They didn't punch a clock from eight to five for the man either. Like let's be real here.

I ain't doing that. You kind of found some food and then you chilled and did what you wanted all day. Sounds pretty rough, man. Also, is there something incorrect about applying the logic of whatever human beings did thousands of years ago is what we should do now?

When they lived to be like 30 years old. When they got eaten by a saber-toothed tiger, like just because they died of, because they fell and scraped their leg, got infected. That was the, died. Yeah.

I was like, it's like, oh, like the organ trail. It's like, oh, you're died. You fell and scraped your leg.

I didn't even cross the river. I was like, you're filthy and covered in shit. You haven't showered for a week and that got infected obviously. And, uh, you're dead. Yeah,

everyone's dead. You all, you're all dead. The weather got a little bad. You have no shelter. You're dead. Yep. Your food was tainted.

You didn't know it. That's the end. Dead. You're dead. You died, dead. Okay. No, on that note, I think that's a good thing to wrap the podcast up on. Well, yeah, after we tell you about our friends over at the Strength Co.

Oh, yeah. Well, obviously, that's what I've met. After the Strength Co. Yeah, Strength Co. They're American-made Olympic Iron Plates. They're smooth, yet easy to grip. They're made to last a lifetime. They're made to look great in your gym.

They're black. They're e-coded. And they're the real deal. You'll pass them down to, generations and generations. And you're the next generations. Well, thank you for it because they're that good.

They have the go-to plates of Massonomics gym. They're the go-to plates of my home gym. You know what? I probably need another pair. I have five plates. I have five pairs. I had five pairs in the bar. You know what feeling I don't like is when you go,

uh, load up a heavy bar and you look at the weight tree and there's no plates left on it. That's not. I feel like it's like, hmm, we hit the end of the road here. That seems like the wrong, you know, It kind of feels like you always need one. You got to have a gold set of plates.

Yeah, you got to have like one just sitting waiting. Well, let me tell you, you're in luck. July 4th, the 250 anniversary plates, go for presale. You can get yourself a very limited number of plates with the American flag colored on the 45 pound pairs. You could get a pair going live presale 4th of July. They need to have this pre-sale promoted on their websites. People are aware of this. Yeah, there's probably an email sign up.

Grant collects a lot of emails over there. Yeah, I know emails, but a lot of people come to the website. He's a bit of an email farmer. He's a bit of a farmer himself, an email farmer. I get the emails too, but I'm saying, like right now, it's a lot easier for me to go to the website than to find an email I deleted a week ago, you know? But I'll just sign up. Well, that's why everyone's listening to the Massaomics podcast to get the new stuff.

Yeah, what we should do, they'll sign up for their email list. So when he sends those emails, you can get those and then try to, remember where you saw that, just like me. But until then, yeah, July 4th. So by the time you're hearing this, yeah, you can probably still get it on the pre-order. There should be time on that. And, yeah, check those limited edition plates out. They look sweet.

Yeah. At the strike.com. Anything else this week? I think that's it. That's all the stuff. I think so. It's a lot of stuff and it's all the stuff. Next week is going to be a preview show for the Lyft Hard of the VZ class.

following that is going to be probably a preview show for Home GymCon, maybe a wrap-up of the Lift Hardly VZ Classic, then maybe a wrap-up of Home GymCon. We've got so many damn events to preview and wrap up that we're pretty much, it's going to be like two months of previewing and wrapping up, basically. The previews are just going to roll right into wrap. Starting, stopping, starting, stopping. It's just a lot of it, a lot of it.

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