Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 546: Should the Army change their PT Test?

Episode Date: September 21, 2026

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Social media, website, everything. Massonomics! What's up, everyone? We're here for episode 546 of the Massonomics podcast. The Lifting Podcast about nothing. The numbers are so long and so mini, like for a split second there, I'm like, what number does it even start? I got to think about it all the time.

Yeah, 546. My name's Tanner. My name is Tommy. Tommy, first things first. Where the heck are you? Believe it or not, I'm in a very secret undisclosed location here. No, I'm just kidding. I'm actually in the exact same room in my house.

I just pulled my desk away from the, the wall. I put a shelf here. I didn't, I ran out of time that I have to do this side of my backdrop. I got one side of the backdrop done. I got to work on either side. This will be done in the next week or so then we'll be settled. So refresh my memory. You had that thing that's in the backdrop now was this has been in the backdrop of your, no, well, not here. Oh yeah. That's actually this shelf. Yes, you're right. This shelf was in, uh, what episodes do you have to go back to last That would have been like three years ago, basically. Yeah.

I've been in this house for three years. So, yeah, I'll just go back to anything between three and four years ago. And that shelf was directly behind me in that, in that room when we first moved to Sioux Falls. So, but now you're going to have two of them? Or you're saying, might do something a little different over here. We'll see. It's a work in progress. Will we get to see it next week?

We'll see. You know, we're going to be gone. So it kind of limits my free time here. Yeah, it's not going to help, is it? Yeah. Definitely makes things more challenging. You know what doesn't make things more challenging? Wearing barefoot shoes.

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that's going to blow your mind right now. I just was crunching some numbers. The week that this episode comes out, we have a drop. So everyone, prepare for a drop. It's not ready for that. No, I knew you weren't going to be ready for that one. So this Thursday, we have a drop.

And I'll let the cat out of the bag, just so everyone can be prepared on this. There is a restock of the red proper country cup. Maybe it's our last one. It could be our last restock of the proper country cup. So be prepared. for that. There is also two other items in the drop.

Haven't showed those off yet. One of them is a T-shirt from very deep in the vault. I'm thinking seven years, almost, six or seven years in the vault. Only was released once prior to this. This logo never released on anything other than one T one time seven years ago. And then we have a brand new garment. that's perfect as we roll into fall season. So as you hear this,

we're just getting back from Phoenix, Arizona, where it's freezing cold from just that dry, dry heat down there. We're going to have to pack these things with us because it's supposed to be 106 and dry. When you're in the shade, that's like, what, 50 degrees? It's freezing. You're in the shade with a breeze. It is cold.

You'll be frigid. well when because it's so dry yeah yeah it holds no it just can't hold any heat you know right that's how it works because the moisture is what holds the heat in the air and if there's no moisture yeah then there is no heat in the air yeah and then you know all the places have those little fans that spritz and spray you and it's like you caught one of those it might well you're like shivering you're probably walking around shivering yeah it's why people wear coats all the time there yeah that that actually does make a lot of sense. Yeah, I'm packing most of my winter stuff.

It's, you know, sounds absurd. I don't want to get off that plane and get hit by that Arizona fall weather and just be, you know, we'll catch colds if we're chilly the whole time. That's highly likely. Yeah. I'm not much of a coat babysitter. I've been on record for that, but when you go to the Southwest.

Yeah, fall in Arizona, I will make an exception. And I'm sure we will not eat our words on this. There is no chance. So there is that drop. I think the 24th of September is our timeline. The proper country cups coming back. A shirt deep out of the vault. It's something really cool.

Definitely unique unlike any garment we've had before, actually. Kind of a unique spin on some things. So I'm excited for that one. Then there's just all this news. We're going to recap probably our Phoenix trip next time so you hear more about that then and about exactly how cold we got. It's mostly just going to be a weather report. It's just a really, really long weather report.

It'll be a very in-depth of exactly how cold we felt that it was. But then for this week, we do have several topics. One of them we're going to talk to. We hinted at it last week. We're going to talk about military physical fitness tests. Wait, we hinted out that last week? I thought we did. Oh.

Maybe I'm just making that up. Maybe we did. I don't know. It was a week ago. I can't remember anything. Nobody else remembers. We definitely hinted at it. You know, like, no, but it's impossible to verify at this point of whether or not we did.

So we're going to talk about that a little bit later in the episode, gets a really of our full in-depth analysis of what's going on there. But first, are you drinking anything over there, Tommy? Oh, I am now. What's that? Blackberry, mango, polar. Yeah. I'm having myself a spindy, little spindy, limon spindle. You know, what gym tour where we're at where someone gave us a spin drift.

Do you recall any? Oh, boy. Think SoCal, a garage. David? Nope. Andrew? No. Darko?

Nope. God, how many garages did we go to there? There's one. We shot a, here I'll tell you this. We shot more than one video there. Ephron. Nope. Nope.

That actually applies, but no. Really? Oh, Chad, did he have spin drift? Chad was a spin drift guy. Really had to go through all the options. Just the other day, I actually had forgotten that we'd done a gym tour. a home gym tour at Chads. Yeah.

And it just hit me. I'm like, wait, that's right. We did do that. That was kind of the first real, real actual trip focused on gym tours. You know, we did that North Carolina trip, but it was kind of like,

well, we're going to Jujis and we're going to Jen Thompson's and it was like, and Donnie's. And it's like, okay, we'll get three gym tours, but we also got other videos out of it too.

Right. Before we was like, we realized the formulas, basically, no, we just need to get gym tours most. Now it's this freaking oiled machine. Yeah.

Like we got off the plane and we're like, well, we have actually a couple hours. Maybe we should hit up Ashton to see if he can squeeze us in. Like that's how last minute that was. We were in the airport. Doesn't work like that anymore for us. We were actually walking to the airport. You go, oh, well, we don't need to be at Jens for four hours still. Should we just go to Ashton?

Like that's so crazy to think about now that that's how we approach that. Yeah. Yeah, no, now for this next one, the schedule is jam packed full. Every 10 minutes actually matters now. And the arrangement, it's a, I don't know what the analogy is of dominoes or puzzle pieces or whatever it is, but it's a tangled web. It's a very tangled web that we weave. Yes, it really is. It really is.

Yeah. Okay, what else do we got here? You said something about moving on. Well, okay. I'll almost hint at this one right now. You know, I'm not going to say for sure yet. But I'm starting to feel like mentally, I might be ready to move on from the Peloton. Okay.

This isn't a for sure. But I'm just, you know, I'm just thrilling thinking things out. I hit my year Peloton anniversary. I have like about 70 rides on it. And I'm just thinking, I do think the Peloton is really good at what it does. I enjoy it every time I use it. But the math part of my brain goes 70 rides. And that was like $600.

I don't know if I like that that number. The math. Yeah, the math. It's as a math equation. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I don't know. Have I ever said?

I canceled my membership at the start of the summer. No, you never said. So I, that was, that was kind of my plan anyways at the time because honestly, we bike outside all, like, I don't know how many miles I put on our bikes this summer, but it's been,

obviously, it's not that many, like hundreds and hundreds of miles on bikes outside. So I was planning on doing it. But now it's actually maybe hard to see the forest through the trees anyways because right now I'm like, well, what would I ever want that for? But it's easy to forget what January and South Dakota is like when you're like, I want to do something.

So it's not impossible that I would get it back. Right now it couldn't be farther from my mind. But in the middle of the winter last year, it seemed like a pretty good idea. And maybe it will again. Yeah. I've also, after doing it for a year, I kind of feel like I, for the most part, have the programming down. Like I just the way my schedule works. Like you could just do it.

Yeah, I just know like I don't do like the 30 and 40 minute rides. Like I just do 20 minute rides. I never liked those. Yeah, I like the 15 and 20 minutes. I think I maybe did a 30 minute ride maybe. And it's good,

but it just starts to just take. Like I just want something I can just get done quick. Yeah. And I'm like, nope, I've got the programming down. It's you do 20 minutes. You have about a three minute warm up period.

Yeah. You basically are doing some variation of interval training. And then you do about a minute cool down. And that's it. And I'm like, yeah, this isn't that complicated. I can figure this out. So that's just where I've kind of come to the point of. And the other factor for me was I was always curious if my wife would ever get interested in it.

Because that would also be if I put 70 rides on and she did. I'd be like, you know what? As a household, that's 140 rides. I'm cool with that. And she was like, no, I don't care about it all. I'm not going to do it. So that was a good point. That was another one too where I'm like, yeah, there's the family usage.

So I don't know. I might have another one month. I might have another six months. might have another year, but I'm probably going to move on at some point here. You brought up a point that my oldest daughter actually does like to use it because I'll allow her to watch a show if she goes on the Peloton. You know, because you can have it's like, it's like to Netflix or whatever it is. Yeah. And I'll be like, yeah, you can watch it, but you got to go on the bike.

And she'd be like, okay. And then I'm like, well, at least it's, you know, I'm like, there's at least exercise going. on here. There's a little reward in here. Like this seems better than just not, you know, sitting. So it does actually, we, that's probably the chief use of ours right now is. Right. And you can also, you can cancel it and you can just ride on the thing, you know.

Like it's. Right. That's what I don't have a membership. Does it let you do the YouTube and stuff while when you don't have a membership? Netflix and stuff. It's your, it does. Or something. I actually don't even know what we pop on there.

And that was, I also thought about that. I'm like, maybe I will just cancel it and I'll just use it just to ride. Like, I don't care if I'm not going to Peloton numbers. Well, right. That's the, yeah. Which is fine with me too. I just need to get my heart rate up and get a sweat on for 20 minutes. Right, right.

But was it Matthias Cash talking about alternative options? Yeah, because he has that, what's it, the Wahoo Kicker, I believe is what it is where you actually hook a bike up to it and then you can use. Does the Big Katie have that too? Yes. Yeah, they actually have, I can't remember if they had that and the full bike. They had the full bike for sure. like the Wahoo trainer or whatever.

Yep. I think they maybe had the kicker too. But then, yeah, then you can hook that up to whatever, you know, cardio app. I think the one he used was like My Woosh or something where you can kind of have a biker avatar and you ride in a virtual space and there's different apps that do stuff like that. But it's kind of like Fortnite. Yeah, basically, you know, he was talking about the battle pass and I just lost interest.

So I've you ever played Fortnite? No, no, I have. Like you've never touched the sticks. No, I've seen people play it several times because it was such a cultural phenomenon. But, no, that ain't me. I don't got that time. So you could be moving on from the Peloton. I could be.

Stay tuned. You got to have something cardio in your life. And the beauty of cardio is there's a lot of options out there, you know. Yeah. But I also do really like spin bikes, though. So that's... So that's where, like, the Wahoo kicker could be the... Yeah, that or maybe something else.

I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. I just came to this realization today. So this is all very, very fresh here. What about, like, the old spin bike in Massanomics gym? Would you ever want one of those? Oh, is it for sale?

Well, no. Oh, God. I don't know if you know, but basically, basically nothing from Massonomics Gym is ever for sale. I don't really get rid of things. I was just hoping my search would be done right now. You know, I thought that old, reliable right there.

Yeah. You know what's for sale at Massanomics Gym? That if I could, if someone wants to buy it, I'll make you a heck of a deal. Here's the list of items. Do you remember when we first moved into Massanomics Gym 2.0,

what I'm saying when we moved from a block north. Yep. For about a month, we had this dedicated shoulder press seated shoulder press station the angles are a little off on it not hey trying to sell it the angles are real good someone could make someone could make it uh work if they want to do it's it might require just a little bit of my i mean i think it was commercially made or yeah i don't know if you can actually unrack the bar without a spotter like unless you're like seven feet tall not with like

over 90 pounds i don't think because it's so far back and um That's the issue. Like you have to basically stand up to unrack the bar. But I was excited. A lot of people were excited about that as one of the new additions. And also, I feel like over the last, I'm just really thinking about this in my head. I feel like over the last 10 to 15 years,

that seated fixed barbell shoulder press station, that used to be way more popular. At the YMCA, for example, they had like two of them. of those all the time. Actually, it's so funny to think about it. And now I can't even recall the last gym I've been in that, and like nobody in a home,

I've never been in a home gym that has one of those. It's a waste to have that in a home gym. But the last commercial gym I went to had one of them. But why wouldn't, why would, why do those exist in commercial gyms and no one? Like I've never even heard incline bench you're saying? Not just a,

not an incline bench, but a shoulder, vertical shoulder. Oh, is that one actually that upright? is, am I forgetting? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's upright. It's a shoulder press.

Yeah, it's not an incline bench. No. Like the YMCA had two of those. It did. Oh, see, I was thinking they were incline presses. Or, you know, maybe you call it a military press or, you know.

It had two of those. Wow. Yes. Now, I don't think either gyms I went to had a seated military press, like dedicated station. No. And that's what this is.

It's a seated. Okay. I was just thinking the backrest is a 90 degree angle. Yeah, that's why it's so hard to unrack it. Isn't it because, yeah, you can't incline into it at all. Yeah, that's, that's right. Okay, so that's item one for sale.

What else is for sale over there? Make me, that's at make, best offer. We'll turn down almost no offers. Just make me an offer. Try me. Yeah. You, I will not help you move it. Actually, I would help you move it.

It's not that heavy in getting up the stairs. It wouldn't be that hard. I would, I'll throw it in. I will help you move it out of the basement. Okay. Second thing is the old belt squat is for sale. That could find a good home. To someone, that's got to be a good home.

And that, I'm not the actual owner of that, but I have the green light to basically do what I need to do to get it sold for the owner, which is Sergeant Anderson. And very well-functioning belt squat, the downside of that belt squat is it weighs a million pounds. Yeah, it's really like, The weight horns are actually just solid metal.

Yeah, the starting weight of that is like a good warm-up weight for most men. Yeah. Like with no weight on the weight horns. But we hit that thing pretty hard for several years. Yeah. It was the real deal. And it looks really cool. Yeah.

And the footprint isn't enormous. You know, it's the mat-winning style of belt squad. Yeah, it's the mat-winning style. The footprints overall a little bit larger than the rogue rhino, but it's pretty comparable. Like it's, I think the square footage would actually be higher from this one, but it's not much different. Oh, those are two quality items right there. Would make you a killer deal on that also, probably like one of the cheapest belt squats you could get, honestly. Thinking that's about the extent of the list.

There is one older shitty fan bike. I think it's a shoo-in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But it's not even like the good aerodyne. It's like one with a small wheel. It's like some residential bike that they made, you know. Yeah.

And I don't even know whose that is. But someone just brought it when we had very little cardio because, but I wouldn't be sad to see that go. I don't even know that I have the authority to sell it, but I would just, if someone made me an offer on that, I could go. I feel like the main, that's it. The main genre of cardio that's missing from Asanomics Gym. You guys have the rower covered.

you have the echo bike and you have just a spin bike, you know, you have, um, what else I'm missing here? What else in that? The treadmill. Yeah, the true form runner, you know, kind of the main thing that is missing is a, is a ski machine of some kind. You know, that's, after that, you kind of have the main cardio options covered. Yeah.

Outside of a stair, stair climber of some kind. I would actually like a stair climber. Yeah, that'd be cool. I kind of forgot about that. I had even considered, you know, this is a lot cheaper version. I don't know how it holds up, but even like the bells of steel. It's still not cheap, though. No, no, but I mean, just cheaper than like the full on commercial.

Like a commercial or $10,000 or whatever. Right. Yeah, you're right, though, actually still not even cheap, but I'd kind of considered that before at times. Because I think a stair, one of those would get used at the gym a decent bit. It's like, oddly enough, I think it would get used. Yeah. Like the other day, I was, my wife and I went out to go get dinner and parked on this parking ramp and I walked up several flights of stairs. Actually, on the way down, didn't really think of it.

And then you know, you eat and you drink a little. And then you go up several flights of stairs. You're like, oh, man, it's actually kind of a workout. And I'm like thinking, because I never really use those things. The idea of doing that for like 10, 20 minutes, I was like, damn, that would be brutal actually. Yeah, for sure. A lot of people think it's the best. Yeah.

That's fairly low impact too. That's the other one. Yeah. Yeah. It, the way, where it's always hit me. Well, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I take it back. You're also missing the Jacobs ladder.

How could I overlook that? Oh, well, that's just kind of an obvious miss is the Jacob's ladder. Yeah, and you should probably have two because the beauty of that is that doesn't take up that much room. It doesn't take up that much. You should have two because I think typically people want to do races against each other when they're doing it. So it makes sense to have two of those if you're going to get them. I wonder if we should just get one of those, you know what, at the county fair, that ladder. That you have to go across.

Yeah. And there's a prize at the end if you don't turn over. Yeah. But it just always, like, would you ever be able to make it across? Like, did you ever do that? Could you ever make it across there? Like, I don't think I can make it one wrong on that ladder. No. No way.

Like, there's got to be some trick to it. I don't know what it is, but definitely something there. The original Jacobs ladder. That fair ladder. I have to have a fair worker belittling me the whole time while I'm doing it. When we walked by the fair and they have the thing where you smash the mallet onto the bell, part of, there's a small, I am very anti-the-games at the fair. There's a tiny part of me every time that I want to do that just once.

Isn't it on that one though? Isn't it like hitting the bell at the top is actually not a prize? It's like you want to be like, or like the best prize is like three-quarters of the way up is you want to like, you know, game it where you go in. Well, I hate it then because all I would want to do is see how hard you can. Maybe not. Maybe I'm thinking of that wrong. But I, because my boy did it.

And they start with like little ones. And then there's like three of them, a little one. And it goes bigger and bigger. And I could have swore the top was like, on one of them wasn't like the big prize. It was. That actually makes sense. You got to get like this perfect middle ground. Yeah.

Yeah. That actually makes more sense to me now. Yeah, I can see that. What about changes to the YouTube view count? Yeah. Most people probably aren't even tracking this. No, well, God. I mean, it would be weird if most people were actually like,

oh, did you hear about this? It's been all the talk at work lately. Have you seen this? Just old people love talking about this at work. It's the YouTube view count change. It's really relevant. This is really like an inside baseball kind of thing here. Right.

A little peek behind the Mastonomics meat curtain. Yes. It really has no bearing on anyone. But it is interesting to know if people, people want to know behind the scenes and how some of this stuff works. YouTube starting like, was it about August 28th, something like that. I think that's the way that they count views.

A view on YouTube used to be, I don't even know what the actual definition was, but on a 10-minute video, I don't know if you had to get two or three minutes into it for it to register as a view. Yeah. Everywhere else in the world, I don't think a lot of people realize this,

how just overinflated this number is. Everywhere else in the world, like TikTok, Instagram reels, all this other stuff. The way they register a view is one second. So the second that video starts to play, whether you hang on it for a second or 10 seconds, a minute, the whole thing. As long as you're there for a second for it to start playing,

that counts as a view. And I mean, if you've ever posted a video on Facebook, you might be surprised how many views it gets. Well, it's because just people scrolling to your feet are naturally, it's just going to start playing. So that is how everyone else in the world counted views was, a second, the second starts playing, you have a view counted. YouTube was not doing that.

And I guess in societies marched towards just making everything TikTok, we have decided that, yes, YouTube also needs to count one second as a view. So they switched over the way they count views on August, at the end of August. And yeah, you can definitely see it reflected in view counts. Like our new videos, yeah, they get a lot more views, but it's not actually more views. And here's the funny part is, and I just went in and looked at this today, Tanner. They have a, what is it? Oh, God, I forget what the action.

It's like engaged views. They still have a metric in their analytic. I believe it's called engaged views. Which is just the old view. That is the old way that views counted. So they have views and now you can go in the back and see engaged views. And engaged views is the old way. The other one is just one second views.

And yeah, that's how it goes. So just know that now, anyone, if you look at their view count, know that they are absolutely if you actually pay attention to that their views are absolutely inflated over what they would have been if they posted that same video two weeks ago. Just like more inside baseball,

I don't know why it would even be relevant to anyone listening, but the other thing that we've learned more and more as time goes on, even the old view count, the view count matters little. Yeah. The metric that matters is watch time. Yeah.

Like that's the one that the longer we've gone, like that's what we track is what watch time. Yeah. You know, view count is. Right. You know, like, because view count can take into a, you know, you can look at shorts and stuff like this and that add up to no watch time. Because watch time is where you get rewarded from YouTube for monetarily. You know, when you get paid for ads. It's based on watch time.

So, like, yeah, just for comparison, if you had a thousand people watch a, full two-hour episode of the podcast. You know, that's 2,000 watch hours. Right. Where if you had, you know, I don't know, a thousand people watch 10 seconds of another video, that's, you know, a 10th, that's 100 watch hours. So it just shows how like that number, depending on the video and the length of time, can vary drastically on your actual engagement numbers.

Yeah. So what do you think overall? I mean, I think it's dumb. It's just, yeah. It's like, it's just make, let's just make everything TikTok. now. Let's just make the numbers. We're out of ideas.

Everything just needs to be TikTok forever. Yeah. TikTok forever. That's my new slogan. Yeah. I want to bring back a segment because it feels so relevant that there's so many, even in the last few weeks. I can't even, don't even know where I would start. But I just want to officially do a comment of the week.

Oh. Because there's just so many good comments all the time. Do we have like intro music for this or something? Yeah, we need something. Well, it's been kind of a while since we've done this segment. if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I hear you clucking. It's been one week since you looked at me.

It's been a while. Yep. It has been a while. Man, that bare naked lady still hits, doesn't it? Yeah, that's what I needed to feel alive over here. Okay, so I just wanted to find a couple of these comments. One that I liked, this is on my personal page. I wouldn't normally pick those because usually I'm not posting things on my personal page trying to get engagement.

People aren't showing up to roast your personal page. Is that what you're trying to tell me? Typically not. And this was on an overhead press video and the comment was, this is it. I think this might be the comment of the week. Stronger than you look. That's it. There was nothing else to that, actually.

Stronger than you look. Okay. I thought there's a little more around that. Nope. From a person that doesn't follow me. that apparently came across my video on Instagram and said, just said,

stronger than you look. So if someone to you says, they see one of your lifts and they say, huh, stronger than you look, what's your interpretation of that comment? Is that a compliment? Okay,

I think out of all the compliments or other things you could say, this one might have one of the biggest levels of nuance to it because I can just picture like online, I can take that in a negative way, almost every time. Yeah. In person,

you know, like I'm just picturing if I, someone's at the lift hard, live easy classic and they do some crazy lift and I come to him like, damn, dude, you are stronger than you look like all jacked up and excited. Like the delivery can do a lot of the, a lot of the carry on this one.

So true. But in that case, I can see how in person you would take that much differently than just someone just leaving just a straight up dead pan stronger than you look, especially when it's someone you don't even know who they are. And I do think. ultimately I did decide this person wasn't trying to be mean by saying that because all I responded with was the thinking emoji.

Like, hmm, that's all I did. And he did respond and he said, I don't mean that as an insult. It's not often you see a guy even handle 225 by one overhead. And in this video you did what again? Well, I wasn't also I wasn't doing 225 the number he uses. I was doing I did a set of 205 for 10 overhead. yes and he said it's not often you see a guy even handle 225 by one overhead so i mean his point being like oh no i was saying you're strong but stronger than you look is an interesting comment because you're also trying to most people want to look strong yeah yeah you know like that's part of the goal at least at least it's like in the back of your mind if not on the forefront uh so to be it

also like I don't know if this is a me problem but I can get what I've noticed I feel like the number of comments about the way I look has really ramped up in the last year really and I can get the widest just depending on who is seeing the situation and what I'm wearing and stuff I can get the widest array of negative comments where some people are like you look. tiny, why don't you lift a weight? Uh-huh. And then some people are like, oh, my God, when did you get on steroids? You look, you look, like I'll literally get those in back-to-back days. Yeah, okay. Well, okay, I know something. I mean, the reason for some of them is that's the difference of just wearing a boxy t-shirt

versus wearing a tank top. It is, like that is, that is, I've joked about that. That difference, for some people, maybe it's more minor. For me, it must be enormously huge difference because if I'm wearing a boxy, boxy tea, which I wear most of the time, people will be like, oh, why don't you lift? You know, like, it's a lifting video.

I think the other one is a lot of people don't realize you're over six feet tall. That's the other thing. Just assume everyone's like five, seven or something. Right, right. I do think that that's part of it too. Yeah, so you got both of those working against you. So like when he says stronger than you look,

I'm like, I'm still like six, three, two, fifty. Like, I'm not a small, uh, person. You know, I'm not just the whole thing of like, How big do I need to be here? It's like, unless you're pushing 300, you just look small now. Right. But I have noticed that.

And I don't, I don't know that I really take any of those too personally. And like none of them also like the positive ones don't affect me either. But I just can say there's like just this very wide from day to day of the comment, like the full spectrum of people accusing. me of taking steroids to people asking why I quit lifting in just one. It's literally just a different. And it's basically the basic difference is what I'm wearing in the picture video.

Yeah, he's a community over here. Yes. That was my favorite comment. But I want to check out one other thing. This was on Facebook Reel. We had a real go kind of viral as far as Facebook goes. You know, it's got like 2.5 million views. And it's this old meme I'd made of Dan Connor from Roseanne flipping his couch.

Oh, that one actually took off? Yeah, it's got 2.2 million views right now. You know, it's got 500 comments on it. It just shows that I just don't even understand what's going on at Facebook at all. It's just. Nobody does. I definitely don't. No one does.

I'm just throwing shit out the wall to see what's stick. and it's, uh, I don't, I don't actually even, I can't even tell. But we're gaining a bunch of followers on Facebook. Right, which is like a real growing market for everyone. Which tells us absolutely no good, but, not at all. Uh, but the meme was, quotations, hey, can you help me move today? It will be like your workout, so you won't even have to go to the gym. And then it's Dan Connor with disturbed or, uh, not disturbed.

It's slip knot. You know, I push my fingers into my eye or whatever the song is. And so it's this idea of joking like, oh, you help me move stuff around the house. You don't have to go to the gym because that is your workout. That's the entire joke. That's a huge running joke for all of us, of course. And then there's this one comment thread that has, I don't comment on any of the Facebook stuff. I try not to.

This has 30 comments. But like just this one person's comment has 100 likes. And I'm just going to read some of it. I moved furniture for over two decades. It is a much better workout than the gym. You might not get the muscle definition, but I will guarantee that you are stronger than most. Moving furniture equals functional strength and awesome core strength.

If you work like a beast, your cardio will be top notch. Okay. And I love this because he's actually taking, like the meme of like, oh, you don't have to go to the gym. It's like, you're right. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's this thought. Everyone listening to this is a gym goer, probably 99% of you. And you all know those people that have this mentality that like, oh, I don't have to go to the gym. I've got, I'm a working man. I've got strength from, you know, and it's actually better than what you get at the gym. Turning wrenches all day and moving heavy stuff. I don't need to work out.

And my cardio is great because of it too. And everyone that goes to the gym, two things. there's a few freaks out there that are actually just kind of born freaks and then they do wrench on stuff and they got insane forearms. And they may have like a part of their body that's physically deformed from their specific job that they do have like a large forearm or a strong grip or whatever. You know, those would be the most common ones. But generally speaking, that's almost completely bullshit.

if you just work manually for a living in almost all of those jobs, it doesn't equate to actually... Well, especially in like the traditional sense of like in the gym. That's like what we're talking about. Like you're not going to be like a strong squatter. You might be a decent dead lifter just depending on what you're doing. But that's also how definitely not though, but probably not. You might be, oh, I guess you said decent.

You might have a decent start point. Like when you go into the gym, You might be starting with three plates or something maybe. That's, you might be able to. But you're not going to be, unless you're a freaking art going to be strong no matter what. Like you moving furniture, let's be honest, most of those people are going to be weak if they go into the. Well, you know what? To our standard.

Wasn't there a Nathan for you episode where they try to convince that guy to start a workout program about moving boxes or something? Yeah, that was, that's right. But I like to. this comment because so many people are in agreeance with him. And there's like 30 replies of all people that are like, yeah, that's right. I do this for a living and I'm actually also stronger than the people that go to the gym. And there's like this whole thing.

Yeah, the bodybuilders always gas out the quickest. On what moving furniture? It's just people just love. You know, it's like no one. There's this whole group of people that like to think that like, Their job is the hardest job in the world, and they're also the best at it, you know? Yes. And like, that's their whole identity of like, no, I just work harder than anyone else.

And good luck keeping up, guys. You know, like that's just how they live their life. Yep. It's kind of like farm strength. My hand and grip strength was wild after a few years are working for a moving company. Okay. So your hand in grips. Maybe it is.

What does that equate to your cardio, your leg strength, your chest and shoulders, your back, any of that? Like, you know, it's... There is so many of them. I'm not going to read anymore, but you just have to check it out. I just liked how many people were jumping on that bandwagon. And it is the people.

They also, I guess did you make this point, but they want to justify not going to the gym. They want to be able to say this is also why I don't need to go to the gym. And not everyone needs to go, has to go to the gym. It doesn't have to be your hobby. You should exercise. Ideally, you would exercise a little bit. Well, you don't need to if you have a manual labor job.

That's just exercise. Because you don't gas out then. I forgot. Well, bodybuilders are always the first to gas up. You also know when that person says bodybuilders, he's just meeting anyone that goes to the gym. They're just like just trying to think, what do you call those guys that lift weights?

I have bodybuilders. There you go. Yeah. No, just like constantly, just the idea of like someone moving furniture and just constantly like redlining their heart rate. Like all my cardio is just so great. Been in like zone four cardio for just hours on end of day. I'm sure that's, I'm sure that's how all the professional movers I've ever seen operate

that they're just out there just like absolutely. Totally soaked. Yeah. Yeah. You, we cleans on your bikes over there with your sweaty shirts. I do this all day. I don't even break a sweat. Nate Beardt, it mostly just means your back hurts a lot.

That's probably the truth. Yeah. I do feel like if you lift it in the gym, it would make you a better furniture mover if that was your career. I don't think it'd hurt it. It'd probably make you a little more robust in that also. And it might make it see, at the end of the day you don't feel like you just did an entire workout.

Yeah, right. That it's not just cardio all the time. Okay. How about a little supporting our supporting members? Oh, hell yeah. Okay. Do we need a little supporting our supporting members music? I think so.

Roll that beautiful bean footage. Roll that beautiful bean footage. I did have to look up the Matthews Bridge. last week after we were done. Okay, any follow up? Really set my eyes on that thing. Yeah, yeah. What a bridge.

The Rust Bridge? Yeah. Thing of beauty. Okay, supporting our supporting members, it's a relatively new segment of the podcast. This is here just now, the 46th time that we've done this segment here in season two of the podcast. It's growing on me, though.

It's new, but growing on me. I'm starting to like this segment. Hit our stride. Yeah, what we do is we give back to those that support us. the number one way that you can support massonomics and anything and everything we have going on, including this podcast, is by becoming a supporting member.

We do have, I think, five different supporting membership levels. There was someone like last week that signed up for the parochial level. I had to read that again. I didn't think that existed anymore. I don't know that anyone,

that may be the only person signed up at that, exact level. Yeah, usually people don't pick the mid upper tier. They're just like sticking to the top of the bottom. The lower ones are all the way to the top. And props, though. Hey, love to see more people sign up at that tier. I don't want this to sound like complaining.

I know everyone can go sign up for the preroggi level right now. I won't stop you. I would love this week if we see someone sign up at the parogi level. Let's, I'd like a whole influx of parogi level supporting members is what I'd love to see. That would make my day. did we never talked about that though did we but that one's I just thought I I we didn't because I just thought oh I just must have

always missed this one forever I'd say yeah it was new then okay yeah okay this week big Chris competed in Ontario provincials he got third in his weight class went seven for nine 551 squat 285 bench and a 575 deadlift Big Greg T got best lifter

at IPA strength of heroes meet he hit a 600 score watt 350 bench and 600 deadlift for a 35 pound total PR guys big genelie big hannah big ben bile big colton and big kaden all competed at beast battle four strong man competition in crew falls also grace and jonathan and jenn were all in attendance so we had like seven eight crew members there at that thing representing right down there in crew falls there was a crew meetup in the bus. It looked like Buzz, Bam Bam,

formerly college mat, waffle iron, cardboard scantz, Andrew, and Hogan were all in attendance. Speaking of some of those people, Eddie threw his Highland Games competition out there on the eastern coast. There was three crew licenses in attendance. Three vehicles with crew license plates there

all at the same time. So three different states represented with the MSS and MX official state. issued license plates. There was 15 total crew members in attendance. We had Big Eddie, Murph, Bam Bam, Scants, formerly college Matt, Waffleiron, Daminger, Emmett, Matt and Jess Sesney, mostly Matt, Kurt, Ed, Mike E, and Andrew. All together for that. Sounds like a good old time.

It looked like fun. I'm jealous of some of this stuff. I am too. Big Jeff B. had a family PR, his first child, Big JJ, welcome to the family. Nice. Big Jose and Big Chris had a crew meetup prior to their rush concert that they both went to. Oh, damn, a rush concert?

Yeah. Pretty sweet. Biggest Brad competed at the Kalamazoo Scottish Festival Highland Games. He got first place in the lightweight Masters division. There was a crew meetup, uh, Jose. Oh, Jose. Boston, Boston Jose and Chris.

Mattiado. There's a crew meetup in Louis. It was Jakey, Brandon, and Nate Verde at Brandon's basement gym as seen on Massanomics YouTube gym tour fame. Which is already way out of date. True. He's, what did he get a, he got a whole different rack. Sorry, yeah, another rack with the drop of the rhino in a, yeah. this week's guest on our braddy little sister podcast,

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And they couldn't beat him off hard enough. He just kept coming up. coming. They beat them off and beat them off and beat them off. They couldn't get them to stop coming, no matter how hard they beat them off. Yeah, quite the fiasco those boys have themselves in over there. What a mess.

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You know, I'm not laughing because it's a bad product. I'm laughing because it's insane that more people aren't buying this thing. The joke is that the joke is those of you listening that don't have one yet. Yeah. The joke is on you guys for not having one of these in your home gym. I just checked on Jim Radar. It is the number one monolith on Jim Radar, the Elite FTS Monolift. Yes, and total ownership of monoliths on Jim Radar is about 10.

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Okay. we're going to get to our title topic. Hit it. Oh, yeah. Of course, when you hear the wah, you know that we're going to talk about the title topic. So if you've been hanging around this town on the corner for 51 minutes, we are to the title topic of,

I saw this. We didn't talk about this last week. I just made that up. I don't think we did. I could have appeared in the Discord like three days ago. I think you're right. Okay, so we did not tease this last week. I don't know why that's relevant.

I just keep thin my mind thinking that we did not talk about this. We did not talk about it. So there's, so what's going on? Let me give you a little backstory. It all starts in 2005 when I joined. the South Dakota Army and National Guard. I was actually really hoping this is where you even started at. Let's start at the beginning.

A guy walks, a 19-year-old walks into the Army Recruiters Office. 2005. We didn't have memes yet. We quoted Anchorman and the movie was like seven years old still. Like it was a very different time. We really used to be a proper freaking country back. Smart phones weren't around. People were just living their lives.

We might have watched a couple YouTube videos. Oh, wait, YouTube wasn't even out by then, was it? It existed at all. It wasn't like 2003 or four when YouTube came around. But people... I bet I was not watching YouTube yet at 2005. By like 2008, I was. Yeah.

I bet in 2005. It'd have been, yeah, possible. You were probably on MySpace or something, though. I never had MySpace. Okay. Well, never had it at all. I didn't either. I felt like regionally or something around here just wasn't adopted.

I had a few friends that had it. And I just lived vicariously through them. It was like, oh, yeah, let's pull up your MySpace profile. And that was the experience. I never even had friends that had it. Like, I just didn't, I was in no circle of people. Like, it was just, my Space was only like just joke that I heard people. Like, oh, it's on my MySpace, you know, like, that was probably just in hindsight.

What a time to be alive. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what was the, when was the peak of MySpace? I mean, Facebook really. really took off in 2005. I mean, it probably really took off years after that before it really started going.

Right. At least like locally in my college, like in 2005, everyone that was in college that I was with was on Facebook. And I didn't know any of them that were on Myspace. Yeah, this says the peak of Myspace was between 2005 and 2008.

And that would have been about when I was seeing people on it. Hmm. I just was in a black hole. I don't remember seeing people. Use Facebook until I was like a senior in high school. So like 2006, 2007. And even then it was. But that's because you couldn't use it.

When it first came out, you had to be in college. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I just didn't see like Facebook essentially didn't exist while I was in high school. You know, it was so limited then. Right. God, did we have freedom then or what? People just living. Just poking people on their profile.

Simple times. So I am a veteran myself. When I was in the Army, the PT test was the APFT, is what it would be called. I think that's Army Physical Fitness Test. Okay. It was the APFT.

All six years of my tenure, we tested the APFT. It's something you have to do annually. And everyone has to pass it. Is this just the Army version? Or was this kind of like all across armed forces? Did they do? No, different different,

branches have different tests. So I'm mostly just going to speak about the Army. The Marines have two tests. And I couldn't tell you, well, one of them I'd say is kind of like this. And then they have one where I believe you're, so in the Army APFT, what I took, you wear shorts, gym shoes, and a T-shirt to do this. I think the Marines has one like that. And then they also have one where you're wearing like full uniform.

And the Army doesn't have anything like that. Okay, okay. So what the APFT was, and this was quite longstanding. Like I don't remember when I was in anyone talking about like a different PT test. Like this was the test for I don't know how long that this existed, but I believe a really long time. Yes. And it was three events. You could get a maximum score on each one of a hundred.

and your APFT score was those three added together. It's just like a powerlifting meet. You had your three score together. You had a total. Yeah, to get a perfect score, if you're going to brag about your being a PT stud, you'd say, yeah, I'm a 300 PT or a 300 PT or a 300 PT or? What did those guys exist?

Did you know any? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, they know if it was like super rare or? Oh, no, I bet like Corey Weisbeck in his heyday was probably a 300 PT. year, I would say. CrossFit Corey for nothing, do they? Yeah, in order, and we'll get to this, this is kind of the thing, like in order, the three events, the pushup, you get two minutes to do

as many pushups as possible. That was the old APFT. Event two is the sit-up. Someone holds your feet and you get two minutes to do as many sit-ups as possible, which your hands, your fingers interlocked behind your neck, and then you're sitting all the way up. You know, it's not a crunch. It's a, I can't remember what the actual line of demarcation at the top was for it to count, but you had to do a full setup. And then the third event was the two-mile run for time. Your score depends on your age bracket, what you need to get a max. There's two things to watch out for.

What's your max? What do you got to do to get 100? So that's the best possible time. or what's the cutoff to get the best maximum score to get your 100 points for that event. Everyone or people that are good at it want to know that. And the other thing you needed, you had to get a minimum, I think of a 60 on each event. The lowest, if you got lower than a 60 on any individual event, that was a fail. Okay.

So the lowest score you could get and pass would be a 180. All right. But that has no bearing on your, I mean, it's either you pass. or fail, right? There's not. No, it does have bearing, and that's what I was going to say, because if you're,

like when it comes to promotions and stuff like that, your PT score matters. You know, there's also, with a 185. That's not. Right.

It's going to, it could. I actually didn't stick around long enough to know all the nuance of this, but generally speaking, I think it matters. It's also like, uh,

your, you know, range qualification with your rifle, you know, like being a, uh, sharpshooter is beneficial to you when it's something like they're all factors okay with that stuff so it does matter if you're a 300 pt stud also it just straight up buys you a little leeway in general

if you're a pt stud you can just get away with more shit commonly if you're awesome at army shit you can get away with a little more shit if that makes any sense like it's a kind of a broader lesson for life in general you know you're good at stuff people let you get away with more stuff it's kind of true and it is true there like it's at your job now if you crush some of the critical functions of it they're probably also not going to care as much if you don't if you show up five minutes late on a Tuesday you're going to get straight aides all the time and do that stuff they're going to be a little a little more slack with you that's in if uh you're uh the star quarterback yeah you know like it kind of is transferable to a lot of things You can fail a lot of classes.

It's cool. So I don't know. The standards were different on your age bracket. Like the two mile run for me, for example, I was in the youngest age bracket at the time, which is the highest standard. So to ace the two mile run,

you had to run a sub 13 minute two mile. And my best, I came so close. Like my best ever was like a 13.05. Like I was desperate. I was trying to, I'm not a runner by nature, but I had forced myself into that a little bit. And I was, you know, at least for a period of time, I was very hard trying, for no reason other than I just arbitrarily wanted to get the max score. Yeah, to get those PT stud honor points, you know.

Right. And I couldn't, like I ran, you know, 1310s, 1315s, like my best ever was a 1306. And that was with me trying to hit a 13. It just wasn't quite there. Yeah. Which now, if I was to go out and run a 13, I'm like, that's like sprinting for two miles. It's not actually sprinting, but it's running pretty freaking fast. At the time, it didn't seem like it because there's a bunch of people around that are running like 12s and 1130s and stuff like that.

But if you watch someone now do that, I'm like, no, that's pretty fast. Yeah, you're going. Yeah. And I don't remember exactly the push-up sit-ups number. So I was never a 300-P-T guy. At my best, I was like a 270, 275. I was like get a 90 on all three of them kind of guys. Respectable numbers, yes.

Yeah, did respectable. We can talk about that test. But like my thought to you is, what do you think that shows? If here's your, you want to test someone's physical fitness, they can do as many push-ups as possible in two minutes, as many sit-ups as possible in two minutes,

and then run two miles. And this is the only diagnostic you have of how ready someone is to do, I don't know, soldier stuff obviously, but just like in general. So I would say it shows a, it shows a baseline of fitness for sure. Like you're going to figure out if this person's,

you know, been moving furniture for a living or if they've been, you know, putting in time in the gym or not. You're going to find out what's going on there. But, you know, obviously a person that does good in all those, they're probably in decent shape.

Now, is that person, like the ideal person to have on your side in a battlefield, I don't know what that's telling you there. You might just not actually know. To me, what I always thought of this is what this encouraged is for someone to be a runner.

Oh, to be light. Yeah. To be light. Yeah, I'm actually convoluting. I don't know if that's, but I'm like mixing those two terms into one thing. It encourages someone to be light. Yeah.

Because if you're light enough, pushups are going to be way under 160. This is going to be way easier than if you weigh 200. And that's how scores work too. You know, that's the people that crushed it were usually the lightest beat. I mean, there's freaks.

Like, Corey is a good example. Corey's kind of a freak. You know, I don't know, maybe he weighed about 200 pounds or 190 or whatever. He's kind of like muscular. Right, right. He's jacked. and muscular. So he crushes push-ups, crushes sit-ups,

and then was still, like, so fit that he could still probably max the run at times, you know? But he's kind of the exception to that PTSD. Most of the people that were crushing it were people that were light and could run the shit out of the two-mile, and then were kind of so light that they were just good enough at push-ups and sit-ups too, because it wasn't that hard because there's nothing to, they're not moving around any body weight.

Yeah. then they changed to the ACFT. We talked about this on the podcast. Yeah, we did a whole podcast. Probably what five years ago? Like when was this? At least five years ago. I don't know what year they changed.

It's probably like eight years ago that they started the change in it. The transition took a long time. So they got rid of the APFT. They brought in the Army Combat Fitness Test. They got rid of the three events and went to six events. So then maxing the ACFT. CFT would have been out of a 600. You'd be apparently, you know, people would have walked around saying, I'm a 600 ACFT.

And those events were the max trap bar deadlift. The hand release pushup. So the pushup always used to just be pushups. A hand release push up at the bottom, you go like this. And with your chest on the ground, you make your arms out straight and hover and then bring them back and do another one. So it's like, I don't know, obviously it's going to bring your numbers down. This is determining maybe making it like impossible to cheat a rep or I'm not really sure of all the reasons for that.

I guess event by event, the trap bar deadlift to max it, you need to be able to trap bar deadlift 350 pounds. Which to anyone of us that power lift and do strongman and stuff, you'd be like, well, or moves furniture for a living. all the furniture movers out there are just like oh hell yeah obviously it's not very much weight in our world but it does tell you something if someone could deadlift 350 pounds you're like okay

yes that tells me something the hand release pushup yeah so I think it was lower rep but I don't really care between I never had to do it myself but I think it whatever that's fine I don't care either way they also added the sprint drag carry

which was you know kettle bells for the carry, the sprint, and then the drag was a sled. It was like, I think it was the Sputink weighted sled that you drug. It's like a shuttle, you know, a three-part shuttle test. And it was a max score based on your time. And then there was no more setup. They brought in the plank. So it was a plank for time.

You had to plank for like three minutes and 40 seconds to get a max score on that. And then it was still the two-mile run. but they reduced, I think they made the standard a little bit lighter on the two mile run because there's this other stuff you're doing before it now

like the shuttle run and plank and all that. And then originally the sixth event was the medicine ball throw. Oh yeah. I can't remember if it was like a 20 pound medicine ball

I don't know the weight and you threw it over your head for distance. Yeah. They measured your distance to score. So those were the six. I would say out of all those the plank

seems like it'd be the easiest one to game and I think so too I never had to do that in a like I can just do planes I mean I could I could get myself in a plank position where 30 seconds absolutely destroys me and I can also where it's like slightly change my form and be like 30 seconds I haven't done a thing yet you know yeah so I don't know how they judge that that's that one has too much gray area in it yeah I kind of think so too I'm not I'm not sure but I I mean I get it I think it is a good test of core strength right like right right a plank for an extended time, but it's an easy one to, yeah, you can manipulate your body in ways to take advantage of that. Yeah, and personally, I, I like that they added a deadlift. I think that

tells you something. The push-up change, I don't really care between the two. I love the sprint drag carry event as a test that I'm like, okay, this is telling me something. And also, this does not just tell me that someone's skinny and can run fast. This tells me that they can, move quickly with a load. And like what can they do in a one to three minute burst of energy while they're required to move something that have some weight, say move a body, move a crew serve weapon, you know, carry of whatever, drag something like that tells me something important. And then the plank, you know, that's the testing of that seems tricky.

I get keeping a run in there because I actually what I love about the run in there too is now before it was a third of the score. Oh yeah, dilutes it down, doesn't it? Delutes it down, which I'm like, yes, I like that a run is a part of the score, but I also like that the run itself is less weighted. Yeah, it's not as emphasized in the overall. And then the med ball throw, I do like the idea of like having this explosive thing in there. I don't know. The short of that, the med ball throw did not last long.

They eventually dropped that. I don't know if it was a few years later and went down to five events. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah. That one doesn't surprise me that that got dropped. Yeah. And like to relate it back to myself, I never did this test,

but I know I would have maxed the med ball throw. I know I would have maxed the deadlift, and I know I would have maxed the sprint drag carry. So what I love about this, one is I could just roll out of bed and half the events I'm maxing. Yeah. That's just a personal take. No, because I train for that stuff.

Right. At a certain baseline level of strength, those are just easy events for me. Yeah. But I think that that tells me, like, that's, that's why those are valuable that it is now testing, half of the events are testing something that some of the trains for strength is training for, I think, kind of. Anyways, they got rid of the medicine ball throw. Now, the rumor is, I don't know this is officially announced,

but it sounds like it is likely changing. Someone can fact check me on the timeline or if this is official on official. They're canning that. They're now going to call it the new AFT, I think. I don't know what the name, acronym is going to be. It's going to go back to three events. they're going to go back to the pushups, but they're going to keep up hand-release.

So it's going to be hand-released push-ups. It's going to be the plank and the two-mile run. Really? So the original test was, you know, for many years was push-ups, sit-ups, two-mile run. Now it's going to be push-ups plank two-mile run. And that's the, they're dropping all of the stuff that I kind of thought was valuable.

Yeah, in an actual real-world situation. Yeah. Yes. I feel like at that point, just fully revert back. If you're going to do it, be like, okay, we're just going back to how we used to do it. Like the plank being the one in there just seems odd that that's. Yeah. I don't like that switch.

It's not relevant to me, you know, particularly I'm not in there. So it doesn't affect me personally, obviously. I thought that they were on the right track. And what I've heard of pros, you know, say the cons of the ACs. FFT and the pros of switching back is that the old event you needed no equipment, your old original one. This new one, you needed a bunch of stuff. You needed a trap bar deadlift.

You needed weights. You needed the kettlebells. You needed the sled, a medicine ball at one point in time. You needed all that stuff. So now they're saying, well, we can get rid of all that. And then we, you know, I saw it on the money on it. We can get rid of it. Well, it's much easier to test now.

We can test anywhere. We don't need any of that stuff. And I'm like, yeah, but that was kind of some of the stuff that made the testing better. Yeah. So I'm like, what it makes it is it makes it easier to test, but it makes the test less valuable. Yeah. It's my short opinion of that. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe there was some other inherent flaws with those events. but I really like the sprint drag carry. You know, the deadlift, obviously, is what I would say I would like. But from a real test of telling you something, I think the sprint drag carry is the best event out of them all. And like getting rid of something like that is a shame. Yeah.

I feel like. Also, I do like just having some base strength event, which Deadlift is probably the one to do there. And not making the numbers extremely high, but just some baseline that it's like, okay, dude, you're 19 years old and you deadlifted 160 pounds. Right. You're getting penalized for this.

Trap bar deadlift too at that. You know, yeah, like this is going to cost you on the score. I know you can run a two mile in 10 minutes, but you can't pick off, pick 200 pounds off the ground. Right. That's a problem. It would be helpful to you and everyone else in your unit here is if you had a certain level of strength.

Right. Yeah. Like that's actually a problem at a certain. point that I'm like, no, you're exceptionally weak. I get that you're small and a great runner, which is valuable, but you need some amount of strength to go along with that. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that one. I thought I saw something, maybe I'm making this up in my head.

I thought I saw something about, like, potentially this test, or it was a scheduling thing too, like the test is quicker, you know, to administer. It will be way faster. But it kind of goes back to the thing of like, well, how do we make tests better? Like, let's just test for less and, like, do, like, it's just like, well, what's the point of testing then if we just dumb everything down to where we don't measure anything? That's all the pros make it easier for the people conducting the test. Yeah.

They don't make the test, none of the pros that I can see make the test any better. You have better soldiers in this situation, you know, it's just like, it's all just making the test easier to perform. We're just making it like to conduct. Administrative standpoint is actually going on here. Yeah, that's what it's doing. It's making it easier from the administrative. straight-up standpoint.

Yeah. Because I don't see how you argue that the testing's better. Like, I don't actually know what the possible argument. It'd be like, oh, thank God, we're quit, quit finding out if they could, who's quick and who's strong. We don't have to worry about that one anymore. I'd be like, well, you want to worry about those things. Like, those are the things that are relevant to worry about.

And anyone that's been in the military understands this, like, part of the argument is, you know, when you're, you, you carry a ton of stuff. Like, you're typically loaded with who knows, you know, who knows how much between your Kevlar, your flack jacket, your rifle, maybe you carry a larger weapon than that. Like other racks, your rucksack, anything else that you're carrying with. Like, you're carrying a lot of weight around. And then also the other analogy is, what if you need to drag your buddy out of a situation? who weighs 180 pounds and has 80 pounds of shit on them. That's not a made up situation either.

No, right. Right, exactly. And so being strong is valuable. If you just told me, you made me pick who's going to be in my proverbial foxhole next to me. And I'm just going to make up two archetypes of people. One of them is a one of the best marathon. runners in the world that weighs 125 pounds. Let's not say one of the best.

Just an awesome. An accomplished marathon, like he. I was just going to say this. You're fresh out of high school. It's like the guy that just ran cross country, you know, was really good at cross country the whole time versus maybe the guy that was, like, I don't know, the linebacker or something.

The linebackers, then, the other archetype is the, you know, I'm not going to say it's the offensive linemen. Yeah. that I want there because you go to extreme the other direction, but give me the linebacker, the fullback that has a neck this big around and also still has a motor on him that I'm like, no, he's going to be able to still get me from A to B. He might not be able to drag me for 27 miles,

but that's probably not what we need to happen anyways. Also, the other guy's not going to drag you for 27 miles. No, right, right. He might not drag you at all. actually. Right. Like, and there's a lot of, uh, in-betweens and nobody's exactly into one perfect box and stuff. But if you just, everyone can picture those, those two like general people. I'm picking that, the lineback or even, I might even say the guy that's like a pretty good, uh, local crossfit guy because he, you know, he's fairly strong and can do all this other stuff. He might not be the greatest at running 30 miles. or the fastest two-mile time ever, but he's pretty fit.

Or, you know, the power lifter that's also in good shape. Yeah. You know, those would be the guys that I would lean on first. That's my bias, too, but I just also think it's correct. I think it makes sense. I really think it does. Yeah. The other thing that, I don't know if this is related or not,

but in, you know, what the test is still now is those five events, so a perfect score is a 500. If you get over a 465, you don't have to do the body composition tape test. So if you, like I would have to get tape sometimes because I weighed too much for my height. There's just a height to weight standard. Yeah. And my body weight was too high. You know, I was in pretty good shape and like had a lot of quite a bit of muscle mass.

Yeah, but you weren't in long distance runner shape apparently. Right. But if you have over a certain score on your test. they'll say no you don't even have to do that so if you have like over a 465 on the current test they're like now you kick ass at this we're not going to subject you to right to us having to if you need to lose weight or not yeah we're not going to like at a certain point we don't even care if you are fat you're so good at all this you don't like you can just apparently you can just be fat and do that uh that's really all i have on it and i don't even know how how official this is that

it's going to change. I feel like it's a regression, though. I did send it to a couple people that are active right now, this little infographic, and I'm like, oh, what do you think of this? And the one guy, all his response was regression. Was his take on it. Well, I'm sure it won't cost the taxpayer much when it's all said and done.

I'm wondering if some people are going to get some sick deals on trap bars and sputting slu. leads out there what the government's good. I mean, Sergeant Anderson would know. Like how many, I mean, did they have 10 trap bars? Like per unit? I think there had, you know, you did

these in lanes like a typical unit you needed several lanes to be able to get this stuff done in any reasonable amount on time. I'm sure every unit has several. There's got to be tens of thousands of trot bars around. Somebody made their nuts selling the United States government trap bars.

I didn't actually there's probably I don't know I'd really need to think about what numbers make sense 10 when I say tens of thousands maybe that's an embarrassingly low number that I'm even saying there's a lot of trap bars around somewhere now yeah you're probably right yeah it's got to be a lot well they're going away so yeah so we still need to do that video someday where we all take the test that's what we talked about when we did this is We'll wait until we'll get the new standard going, though. You know, screw that old one. We'll wait for the new one. We'll wait for the next one after this next one. Yeah, we'll let them work out the kicks here when they remove a third event or something. There is like you made the joke or whatever. Like it's like, oh, it's tradition or whatever.

There is just this hundreds of year old thing that exists around just being able to run, though. Oh, yeah. So it is, even if it's not the ideal test. I actually, I don't want to diminish the value. you altogether of testing someone on a long distance run. It's relevant. Even if you're not going to go out there in the battlefield and run for two miles, it does tell you something being able to do that.

But there is this because it's so much tradition of the organizations that like I just feel like it can't be shook. It's why it's going back. I feel like it just, there's so many people that it's so entrenched that this is what you do in this organization. Back in the good old days. Yeah.

It's like just goes pushups in. Right. Yeah. It just can't shake that. Even if it did for a while, it's like the right people got in the right seats again. They just moved furniture and bench 405. And they got by just fine. Because they were furniture movers.

They had a motor on them like you wouldn't believe. Who do I want in my foxhole? A guy sitting at a desk chair all day or someone out there moving furniture. Yeah, look at the forearms on that guy. When you picture someone that's moving furniture for a career, what's your mental image? Usually like 19 years old. Typically, I would say yes. I mean, just in my experience, any time we've got furniture deliver or something,

it's like a 19 to 20 year old kind of picture. It's like either a summer job or a very temporary job. That's what I was going to say. What's the average, like what's the longest 10 year career? I'm not knocking on anyone that does this. No. But I'm just saying in my experience, it's not like, oh, this guy's got 30 years in the game here. It's like just.

No, I feel like that doesn't happen. No, no. It's not a thing. It's like always, it has time goes on. I'm like, God, I feel like these guys just keep getting younger. We keep getting older and they keep moving furniture at the same age. Yeah. What were these Apple?

What's the new Apple stuff? Oh, Nate said we needed to talk about the Apple stuff. Yeah, it had just happened last week when we recorded. So I just, I hadn't had a ton of time to dig into it. But we usually like to do an Apple update. We do got to do it. We'll do a quick Apple update here. So, all right, Tanner.

Let me, I don't want to miss anything in the lineup here. I intentionally for this episode have done, just because of this episode, I've done no research on any of us. That's the only reason I've done no research. So I'll break it down for you. I'm going into this brand new fresh. I know nothing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, all right. Here's the main ones. Okay, there is a new set of AirPods out. We're up to like AirPods 5 or something. They're not the pros, though. They're just regular AirPods, not AirPods. pros. Why would I need new AirPods? My original ones still. I don't know how you are doing that.

That makes no sense to me. And I know you use yours a lot. It actually blows my mind that you don't have AirPods pros. Like that is just, that's crazy to me. Like I, I just walk my dog. And if those things went, got flushed down the toilet tomorrow, I'd be like, yeah, I'm going to the store right now to get new ones. Like I can't, I actually can't live, not having. Tell me again what the difference is. Well, the pros have no. Well, so first of all, the pro. The pro have the tips that like go in your ear like the actual tipped regular ones they fall out of my ear they can't even wear them like the ones that don't have tips that actually go in so that's the first one for me and then they have noise canceling which the

noise canceling is great it's like when you're on the plane which we do like once a month you turn on noise canceling and you don't hear anything it just well the big bulky thing you got a jam in your ear on the original ones pretty much cancels up the noise because it's yeah it's a thing like this big around to go jamming you. And then it also has the stem. You can control the volume on the stem. That's not a huge deal.

The transparency mode, though, that's the one. I don't know of yours have transparency. We're like, when I have my AirPods in, I typically keep it on transparency mode. And it's like what I would compare it to is if you just had like a speaker, you're listening to music. Like, you hear the music just fine. But if someone talks, you hear them like they're talking to.

You don't hear them like you have headphones in. Yeah, I don't think of mine have that. So like when I'm at home, I don't actually usually wear them at home. but like here's the here's the comments near for me i'm walking the dog a neighbor says something to me someone's riding by in a bike or whatever i'm aware of my surroundings because it it passes the audio through so i can hear it right that feature is really really nice too um i mean those would be the main ones for me but and then the fit they just made the original so good i can't uh it's it's crazy to be made actually made those the last i think i've had those for probably like a decade

now i you've had them since they basically came out so yeah it's been over five years for sure. I don't know if they came out seven years ago or what, but yeah, actually my first pair of pros, they, I think I've had them since like 2018. Yeah. I had them well into my other, which, so it's probably been eight or nine years. Probably, yeah. I, I, I, the, the, the noise canceling on one of mine was getting weird,

the first set of AirPods pros I had. And like, it was just like flutter. It was like it was hearing noise coming in and it was like trying to cancel it out, but it couldn't. And so when I'd be on a walk, I'd just hear like, and like you could, I mean, it would drive you insane. Yeah. And I went like a month of just not wearing the one that was bad. And I'm like, okay, this is too annoying.

So that was when I had to, oh, and then what it was was, I got my Costco rebate check, my 2% rebate check. And I'm like, oh, these ones are pretty much on Costco. So I can't afford not to, not to get them. So that was why I upgraded. Otherwise, I wouldn't have. But see, that's the problem. You get all those options and then things, then they just stop working. I know.

It's the original ones. The tail's oldest time. You make it fancy and it just more. shit to break isn't it that isn't that the classic thing like oh you're going to buy that that car is just more stuff to power windows just more stuff to you know I kind of do think about that but there's a time when I would have never thought about that I do think about that and stuff now I'm like oh yep that thing yep that's just going to break yeah yeah okay um but anyways so like there's just like a basic upgrade to the AirPods the regular ones but um the big one tanner is the is the phone the iPhone

has been updated and we are now I actually have to look at the number because I can't remember we're up to iPhone 18 now okay and it's just typically in the past they've done like that it would be like iPhone 18 18 pro and then maybe something else like last year they introduced an iPhone air but it was like you got a regular a pro and maybe some wild card this year you there's no regular one you get just the pro but they have now introduced iPhone what's the difference between regular and pro usually the Pro has more cameras and just a little usually has a better screen, a little better performance, things like that. What's this? You have a pro. You have a 16 Pro. Okay. And for us, it is fairly important in the content creation aspect. Like it is used a lot.

So I think whatever can get you the nicest camera is worth it in our case. Yeah, that makes sense. But this year, the big reveal was the iPhone duo, which is now the first folding iPhone. it opens like a little book. And so when you open it, it's like you have a full on iPad staring at you. And this thing comes at a pretty penny. The starting price, Tanner, any guesses on that? Oh, $2,000.

The starting price is $2,000. Okay. If you want to upgrade your storage, you're going to $2,200, and it goes up from there. It's that what else does it go up? Well, I mean, if you go to $2,000, you're up to $3,200. Oh, okay, so it's just storage. Yeah, it's just storage. Yeah, that's your own option on it.

It's just storage, yeah. But that is just an option. Like, it's not like, yes, we're converting everyone over to the, this is not what an iPhone is. This is just like the premium high end option here is. And it even has some compromises where it doesn't have as many cameras either. Like, it just has that two cameras. So is this definitively, like, I don't even know what it looks like, but I just heard the idea. And I'm like, it sounds like something I don't want.

I mean, it looks cool. I don't, I mean, I won't not deny the fact that it looks cool. And Android's had foldables for a while now. This one, they did a little thing with the aspect ratio to make it a little better and some other things. But I'm kind of the approach of like I don't want to spend any more time on my phone. So making it this glowing, shiny object that I just want to touch and hold all the time. I don't think is the right move for me. So I can respect that it's cool, but I have no desire to buy this right now.

I'm sure Apple's not coming out with something that's garbage. But to our just point we just made 30 seconds ago, I'm like, man, introduce a full, like this thing that I jam in my pocket and gets dirty and everything, I'm like, does, is it, how durable is it going to be for three years? That's the thing. Like, Android's been doing this for a while. And apparently, like, it's durable enough. I guess when it's open, it is the thinnest iPhone ever when it's open flat. So the two sides together, I think, are just like slightly bigger than a regular iPhone maybe. So it's not like, it's not like you're adding a tremendous amount.

of weight or size to it or anything. But yeah, it's definitely, it's a different thing for sure. But I just don't want to be sitting in front of an iPad all the time. Like that's, I don't want that. You know, I got some restraint over here. Yeah, I'm probably, I mean, I would be the, one of the latest adopters to this, but I don't ever, I don't see that, like, well, see a transition happening where majority of the people are going to have that.

The big one's going to be the $2,000 thing because that's just going to price a lot of people out instantly. And you know what they're starting to do? I think they're realizing stuff is starting to get unaffordable for people here. Like it's getting tougher. They are now giving you the option. Apple now gives you the option to lease products from them. You can do a lease. And then at the end of the lease, like a car lease, you can decide, do I want to buy this out?

Or do I just want to get a new lease for a new device? Right. It's like when you go to buy this thing, it's, you know, it's $2,000. or you can lease it from $58 a month for 24 months. Say that amount again? Say that amount again? 58 bucks a month for 24 months. So like, for example, a regular iPhone is now $1,200.

If you are, I should say the iPhone Pro is now $1,200 is what it costs. So you can lease that for $30 a month. You can lease that for 35 a month for 24 months is what you lease it for. And then at the end, you know, there'd be whatever the remainder on the balances. you can buy it out or you can just fire up a new lease on you. Yeah. And they're doing that with computers. They're doing it with everything now, actually.

Yeah. I obviously don't like how expensive phones are, but a phone is one of the things I use my phone so much for so much stuff that I do actually allow myself to overlook that a little bit because I'm like, this is not optional. Yeah. I feel the same way towards just not negotiable. Like it's like, yeah, I want the best camera I can have in my pocket.

at all times. They do work well enough and are robust and reliable enough that I feel like I have a high level of confidence when I buy my iPhone that I'm like... But did you check what the warranty is on it yet though? Because if it's not over a year you might not buy a phone. Oh like

the Beyond Power Vulture, that's right. Yeah. Because I mean they're guaranteeing this for like five years, right? That it's just going to be perfect. I think everyone in the smart phone space guarantees their phone for at least three years. Otherwise no one would buy one. What is the Apple warranty? actually. Well, isn't it like 90 days?

That's what I was going to say. Do they even give you the year that we're talking that people complain about with Beyond Power? It's like, okay, so you get a limited one year warranty. I mean, it's 90 days of technical support. Can we just assume it's not going to cover anything, anything that ever happens, basically? Basically, yeah.

I mean, nothing that you would do to it. I guess if you got one of those rare ones with the manufacturing defect, then. Right. Right. Yeah. So that, what's the, what's the flip, foldout one called? Duo.

iPhone Duo. So that's the biggest news then kind of. That was, yeah. And it was, I guess all this stuff had been leaked. So everyone kind of knew it was coming. And people, do people have these yet? No, they're not out yet. I think it's, I think it ships later this month.

Yeah, available starting October 23rd. So that one's a little ways out. Okay. All right. Anything else of note than besides the duo, the AirPods, the 18 Pro? Not really. That's kind of the big ones. I mean, there's some other little stuff, but that's really good.

Do they have this shindig once a year? Well, yeah, the iPhone always gets announced, you know, like in the first week or two of September. And then typically in the spring they have like, they usually announce like computers. And then now lately they've been doing some press releases with some other computer upgrades or things. They did have some watch upgrades too. but I mean, whatever. Oh, big watch guy over there. Big watch.

You're out of date now. No. You're out of date. No. Sell it off. Better get that on Marketplace right now. I couldn't possibly care less about. There is now Apple Watch Series 12 or the Ultra 4 you could be getting.

Any idea what they do differently? Apparently the Series 12 has. like a much better heart rate monitor. You know? And it's probably just marginally faster if I had to guess. Like, what do you mean? It just has probably a new, it should have a newer chip in it.

So it should just have better performance. I don't know what you would possibly need it to do differently. Oh, you know, when you're watching YouTube videos on it for hours. Or working on like a spreadsheet or something. You know, watch stuff. Isn't it funny, though, like when we were a kid, this is totally what people thought was going to be a thing.

Right, that was the future. Yeah, this little thing. Oh, you're going to do all this stuff on your watch. And now that it does exist, you're like, yeah, I don't really want to do that on my watch. Yeah, that's a pain in the ass to do anything with. I'm going to not use that one. Like when did you ever have one of the calculator watches?

I never did. I just never liked having anything on my wrist to wear, you know. That's always been my thing. So you're not into like the, you're not into expensive watches? I'm definitely not into expensive watches. I'm not at a point in my life where I can be into jewelry yet. So when I can,

when you start seeing me have jewelry, then you know I've made some money. But I'm not at that level. yet. To just be spending money on like large amounts of money on accessories for your clothing. Yeah. Okay. Do we want to do a certified training facility the week?

Yeah. Actually, I have a couple things here. We got to cover. Okay. A couple. Mm. Boy, okay. Actually, I have a game.

Do you want to play a game? Let's do a game. Nah. Well, next time we're probably going to talk about Phoenix. You're right. Save for two. is it timely at all? It is not timely one bit.

Well, maybe we want to save it because if we're still going to do a certified training facility of the week, that's fine. I mean, I want to play the game, but. We can save the game for next week. We've got to have something besides Phoenix to talk about next week. Okay, okay. That's fair then. So how about a certified training facility of the week?

From our friends over at Jim Radar. I've read Jim Radar? Yeah. Oh, I think we should. Boy, do you have a... I've been liking this new releases feature that they have. Oh, my God, it's so good, isn't it? So many things in there already.

I was counting announcer seven. Pre-order, there's like 12 products and then new releases. I think there's like almost 30 some in there. 37 new releases. Yeah. There's everything from bands to machines and everything in between. Yeah, I just see stuff pop up there. I don't even just be like, I'll just be surfing Jim Radar myself,

and then there'll be new rep fitness resistance bands pop up. Yep. They changed the resistant band game. Flipped it on its head. It's inverted. Okay. Do you have a certain certified training facility in mind, or you want me to pick them?

Oh, no. I, uh, I mean, I could just pick one. here. But you're usually the picker. You're usually the master picker. Okay. I didn't know if maybe you felt left out and you wanted to pick one or not. No, I wouldn't even know how to start to pick one. Well, okay, I can tell you how you start. And this is helpful for everyone listening.

You go to gymradar.com. That is the website. Once you're there, you head on over to the gyms page. From the gyms page, you can click the advance filter and you can find gyms that are certified. And once you have that, you're looking at what we're looking at. I think I got one here, Forrest Tanner. What do we got? Oh, yeah. Yep, yep. I got one. Okay. I got to get my screen recorder going here so that we, uh, so people can play along at home so that we can make this official for when it hits the YouTube's. All right. This week, we are looking at Boots P-WR Gym. There we go. Beat Boots. PWR. Gym. I like it. You hear you see this one up? Yeah, I'm going to give this one a certified training facility of the week designation. It's got it.

And we are in Grandview, Missouri. A little bit about the gym here. It was when was this thing established? Established in 2020. They made their account February 21st. So they were an early adopter of Jim Radar here. Big Boots. What do we got? It is a 600 square foot gym in a basement. It's into power lifting, strength training, and strong man. Visitors are welcome as well.

I'm pretty sure the Kansas City or the, because it's Grandview, where is that, I mean, is that close to Kansas City? Pretty sure this is where the recent Kansas City crew meetup was out. Ah, okay. So you know it's good then. Yep, yep, yep, it is. And he was at, he competed at the Strongman competition at Home GymCon.

Oh, okay. So we probably met him then. We did. See, I can't remember bad on me. I'm sure if I saw his face it, I'll click. Oh, yeah, you would. But top equipment brands, first place is Rogue, second, DIY, third Titan. And there is a 131 pieces of gym equipment cataloged on this gym.

So great usage of Jim Radar there. how many how many reviews do we got we got uh 120 damn this guy 120 he's got the red badge what level is that it's 1479 points on jim radar so he's killing it yeah wow okay well he's actually you haven't refreshed he just got certified trinity facility of the week he's not 1529 yeah damn yeah okay uh should look at these photos yeah first thing god we got this We got a red rack and a blue rack in the gym. Are these both monster racks, rogue monster racks?

Yes. Yes. Left blue rack. Rogue RM3, middle. Pro Star lap pull down right. Rogue rhino with the dual indie setup. Yeah. Those are nice.

If I look at the next photo, you know, the blue and red, that is a cool combo with those two racks together. Yeah. I do like the look of that. If I look at photo number three now, oh, you know what else he's doing? I'm just seeing it here on photo number three.

He also has the photos kind of tape. The eye beam magnetic eye beam on the. Yeah, yeah, either from his, I don't know, he has eye beam or the HVAC, whatever. I can't tell from. Oh, yeah, it's on the HVAC maybe, yeah. What is this machine, this leg machine? Nautilus next gen leg curl.

My church bought an old building and this was tucked away in the back. Damn, what a score. And he's got the few legs in. extending then you're just pretending sign right on it too. That looks really good right there. I like that a lot. Also got good uses of some chalkboards, some PR boards. I can see some kilo plates here.

What's this? That Pro Star Lap pull down from a local auction painted red to match the gym colors. Looks good. That is, yeah, that piece. I thought maybe he bought it new. It looks so good. Yeah. He also does, this is kind of an underutilized feature on Jim Radar.

He has a description on basically all of his photos. You do have the option to add a description so people can know what they're looking at more. And he did a good job of that. It dedicated rack for benching with basement Brandon's rogue bench prop. Yeah. Okay. So that's the bench rack. When we go back to the big rack?

Oh, yeah, 3D printed bolt caps. His deadlift platform. Kind of a more minimal. Let's he got two horse stall mats there. Yep. then he's got some different bars on the wall. Is that the Il Padreino bar? No, that's not.

I think it's just a Texas deadlift bar maybe. Oh yeah, it's a Texas deadlift bar. I can see the end of the, yeah, you just got collars and stuff. Yeah, that's what's going to throw me off. It was getting long because of that. What else? We had some wall control,

variety of attachments, lots of attachments, actually. Some metals hanging. So you know he'd be competing. peaton. Yep. Oh, he's got a little boots, kind of like Massonomics gym, a little rule. That's a

kind of does remind me that, doesn't he? Yep. Yep, I like that. What else do we got? Oh, we got the repins and a DIY stand. Yeah, I like the DIY stand. Yep. Made out of wood. Looks good. Painted a black. Got some Jim Radar stickers, magnets on the breaker box.

Oh, yeah, okay. I reckon. nice these faces now. Yeah. Kansas City crew meet up. There we go. Yeah. Look at those smiling faces. They even got the home gymcon shirt on.

Yep. And a drinking team shirt. And a home gym and a bench heavy. Oh, hell yeah. That's big boots. Yep. Right there. That's the man of the hour.

Okay. Awesome. We got some storage under the stairs, a treadmill. Oh, there were ghost calibrated plates. I assume they were rogue, but they're ghost. That's cool. We got some stones outside. Oh, yeah.

Wow. It's this last one where it all started. OG apartment home gym. Wow, 2020. That is humble beginnings compared to what it is now. Yeah. Yeah. You got a little outdoor gym set up with a yoke.

Damn. Yeah, that's legit. Do you think if you're in boots power gym, could you get strong in there? Oh, hell yeah. Hope to see it in person someday. Yeah, that'd be a good one. It might actually happen someday, too.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, we're getting strong and shit as boots in boots power jam. Okay. Oh, I do have a radar report for us too. Yeah, let's do that. And just momentarily, we'll do ourselves a radar report. Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention? Radar love.

All right, this week's radar apart. I'm going through the categories. I'm looking at stuff. You know, there's one. category that's a bit of an anomaly and it stuck out to me and it actually surprises me that this category has this situation. If you look at the most owned dumbbells, Tanner, you want to go ahead and take a look at that for me? Yep. I'm tracking. What's the number one most own dumbbell on the website? The repin. Rep by Pepin Fast Series adjustable dumbbell. How many Jim's own that?

252. What's the number two most owned dumbbell? The cap, uh, commonly hex, hex, hex cap fixed dumbbell. And how many gyms on that? 101. So it is two and a half times. The number one dumbbell is two and a half times more popular than the number two option in the category. And I went through and most categories, I would say the level of competition is pretty healthy.

You know, like where a lot of them, they're actually very, very close. Just a few points could sway it in either direction. Some of them have some bigger gaps. You know, maybe there might be gaps of,

like 50 or so. You're right. But there is, I couldn't find anything that has a gap of two and a half times between the number one and the number two items. So I don't know what that says. To me it sort of feels like it, well,

one, it shows us how much the weapons are absolutely dominating in that space. And this is counting adjustable dumbbells, fixed dumbbells, loadable dumbbells. This is counting all of those together in that category. So the weapons are crushing it. It also just feels like when you look at that,

Does that mean that there's an option for another premium one in here that no one is? Well, the freak athlete one that's, that's what I'm saying. Like, is there a market opportunity here? Because there's a lot of like, it feels like there's number one and then there's the rest. Yeah, if you look at even just the specifically best adjustable dumbbells. Then it gets even worse.

Yeah, what's kind of interesting there is the rep by Pepin. It's more. So number two is Iron Master. Number three is Powerblock Elite USA 90 and number four is the new Obell. The weapon, there's more of those owned on Jim Radar than all three of the next ones combined. Yeah. There's more than the Iron Master, the Power Block, and the new O'Bell. All three of those combined, the Reppin has beat.

Now, I would say, okay, there is one kind of slight exception you could make here. Because right now we mostly have all of the power block options split out. Yeah. But that's also because the power block can span such a huge variety. Like there's power block that goes up to like 30 pounds. Well, they're just way different. It's not even just different weights. They're just like not even hardly the same some of these.

Right. Like because like, you know, it'd be, it's not like the rep has an option that's a 30 pound limit. You know, like the smallest one now. Well, I think now the smallest one's like 60 maybe. But, you know, for the most, at least when it launched it was the options were 80 to 120. where PowerBlock, the options span from like 25 to like 110 or something. And there's 10 variations of Made in USA versus Not versus whatever. PowerBlock really does have a million varieties.

Yeah. They've really, well, as I say, they made that product lineup more confusing that it needs to be. But I think also part of it has just been over time, they phase ones in and out. Because I think when you go to the website right now, there's really only like three options to pick from, I think. Right.

If you buy them new, but just as time has gone on, they've really tweaked that product line up a bunch. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good stat. That's good stuff. Because even ones, yeah, just when you go through them, there's a lot that, you know, I thought looking at the barbells, there's a pretty big gap between number one and two with the Ohio Power Bar being number one with 257 and the Texas Deadlift Bar being two with 181. But that's still a gap of like maybe-ish.

You know, it's not two and a half time. It's not a, yeah, it's not like so many, no crazy percentage or anything like that. And a lot of these other ones, like rack attachments and, cable attachments, you know, just a few points outside of the, of course, the Roe rotating V grip, which is also like 70 up on number two. But a lot of these other ones, though,

you start getting to the top and just a few ownership points here or there starts changing the rankings a decent amount. Right. Yeah, that's interesting. And I'm leaving my good buddy horse stall mats out of this one for now because I was going to say the horse stall mat is That was a little bit of an exception too Yeah the horse stall mat is in a league of its own It's kind of a different style of product here though

Yeah Horse stall mat's always been in the league of its own if you ask me It has been Okay All right anything else that we want to cover for sure an episode here 200 and no I think we're good the rest of this

can wait for next week okay we got a lot to take care of between this week and next week so we better sign off and go take care of it yeah stay on the lookout for that drop coming later this week we'll update play along with us

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