Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 548: Are Back Machines The Best Machines?

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

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I don't see the, is the event already over? Boy, you're asking a lot of questions right out of the gate here. Anyone, someone quick. What episode number is this? Emergency, emergency. I think it's 548. Really? I think it's 548.

Oh, Megan says it's episode 69. Oh, that sounds right. Actually, yeah. Samsonite. Way off. It was way off. Yeah, it's five big Adam says 548. Welcome everyone to episode.

548 of the Massenomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from the corners of the Dakotas. My name's Tanner. My name is Tommy. I love in the Masonomics recent YouTube tour, Massonomics gym tour video beginning, I think we kick it off with Welcome to Western Northeast South Dakota. Still after all these years, get a few comments. Every time we say that, someone says, wait, Did they just say western, northeast, South Dakota? Still. You can say really something for a loop, right?

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We're back, baby. We had her drop last week. Yeah, it was a wild one, wasn't it? Yeah. That's putting mildly, I would say. She was a wild one. Lately on Drop Day, it's a bad day to be a red cup, is how I would distinguish. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bad day to be my anxiety on drop day.

Yeah. My wife says, oh, no, is it drop day? Yes. You've been pacing the house nonstop. You're smoking a vape inside. What's going on here? Oh, it's drop day. Makes sense. Yeah, we sold out of the proper country red cups again. Man. Him the first day again.

Yeah. We have decided we're going to get him again one more time though, right? I mean, actually, wait, did we order more than 10 this time though? Eight, just in case because we were worried that demand was going to run out. Keep that demand high. I guess we secretly have never said the number specifically that's in an order. But for us, it's relatively a large quantity of,

things to order. We don't frequently order much larger quantities of this in almost anything that we order. Well, because, yeah, because I mean, nothing sells that fast. So it's right. Right. So, yeah, we ordered them again. We're going to get them back. Stay tuned. Yes. Also, the, we're not stopping until every household in America has a red cup in it. We're not stopping until I'm stuck with cases of red cups in my house for the rest of my life. I regrets all of his decisions on ordering here. Yeah, we're not stopping until that day. The other two things we dropped were the long-sleeve camo

with the blaze orange Masonomics varsity print. That was a hit. That's a good one. Big hit. And then also the black comfort colors, Lift Hard, the VZ neon tea. Yeah. Also hit.

Both of those things are almost, completely gone in every size. I'm not even really going to tell you to check because unless you're maybe a medium or maybe a large of the t-shirt. Other than that, you're pretty much a screwed. You pretty much screwed the pooch. So that was the drop.

Hell of a drop. I love it when a drop comes together. All those months of planning and talking and emails and photos and it all comes together for a single instant. Did you see that the Donnie Thompson kickstand, the first real big order is going out? I think it was like 50, the first 50 are all getting delivered. Well, not the first 50. Well, the

first after the real first six. Us first six chosen few. That all had to pay full, completely full price, by the way. I did not get a deal on that at all. I didn't even get like 10% off. I paid the full amount. They might have even charged me extra. I don't know what these 50 went for.

working out the bugs had to charge you a little extra. It was not cheap. No, no, it's definitely not. I did see a little more content or things going out on that. So, yeah, do you have any updates there? Is the rest of the world going to start producing kickstand content left and right now? I'm excited to see all. I want to see just some kickstand content where I'm just on the sidelines getting to take it all in.

See some other people join the club here? Yeah. I left the first kickstand review on Jim Radar this week. So I got the first review first. You know, Jim Radar is kind of actually the official home of the kickstand as far as the internet's concerned. If you, I think we were number one.

Yeah, Donnie Thompson kickstand. We are number one. I always like that when we beat the company that produces something. On Google. It's good for us. When Google's like, you know what? You know who's better at this?

The people that don't make and sell this, the other people. We like their site more. I like it when Google does that. Yeah. I mean, have we talked about it on the, have we talked about the kickstand on the podcast?

I feel like we had, God, you and I have talked about it offline so many times that I'm not totally sure. I feel like we have, right? Okay. Someone listening to tell us, we had to have.

Just makes for great content because people just go nuts about the kickstand. Yeah. Like nothing I've ever seen before kind of like as far as the stress equipment goes yeah it just gets people every time people can't stand the kickstand well because i think wasn't the last one we were talking about it was the meme of like oh you'll fall on your face and it was you know the guy with like the backwards hat and

sunglasses on yeah like the guy taking a selfie from his car yeah the guy like leaving those comments the last time literally had that profile picture seriously read through the comments that guy had. I'm like, this is the kind of guy that would make you pull your hair out with the assinine comments of like, I'm like, ah, yes, you are the worst. You are just the worst. And then once I realize that, I just have to go straight to the WYM. Yeah, yes. Fight fire with fire. When in doubt, hit him with the WIM. So yeah, the kickstand. I'm excited to see that. Yeah. I'm still using the kickstand over here. All of a sudden, 20 people own the kickstand on Jim Raider.

I'd love to see that. Yeah, there's not, I think there's like three right now. Oh, there actually is three. Okay, I just assumed you were still the only one. No, I think that there's a couple Jim Ritt. Okay. Maybe I'm making that up. I could be wrong.

Well, there's no way of knowing. Too bad we don't have any way of finding out. Also, along those lines, it was our two-year anniversary of going to Donnie's. You know, you see him posting some stuff about that. That's crazy. Dude, that does not feel that long ago. Also, that trip is where the actual formal plan, it was driving to Donnie's.

That was where the formal plan for how we're going to do the CTFs came together. So CTFs didn't exist yet. They did not exist yet. Oh, yeah, because they came out in December of, that was where we discussed that, yes, we can get a Google map and put these pins on it. And that was like the thing that tied it all the other. So that's when during that trip that I,

idea came out. I'm fairly certain it was when we were driving to Donnie's in the morning on Sunday like before we flew out. Yeah, because wasn't it, uh, we kind of had the rough idea, but it wasn't until we realized. Yeah, because it was like, we wanted to do like the play. Like, yeah, like there's what, what is the thing that could really make this really cool? Because like Hogan and Keith and several people had talked in the discord about like this general idea also and we were kind of on it. It was just, we were just were missing one element and when it, yeah, then it was when it was like, no, it's pins. on a map that we can all watch.

Yep. That's what it was. So that was during that trip. That's what it was. September of 2024. I could say that set off a domino reaction to things. That's what created Jim Radar also essentially. Yes.

Like that is. So Donnie Thompson for you. Yeah. I mean, did someone on that trip give us the idea of pins on a map or where did that? No, it was where it entered my brain was I had just recently done a project for a client. where they had different locations around the country. And they had kind of like a custom map that they sort of needed.

And I had never done one. Like it wasn't a Google one. I did something different. Right. And it was like, oh, these pins. And then you click on it. And it does some info on what's in that location.

And that was just like, oh, this is a cool idea. Like that was all that happened in my brain then. And then we were on to the trip talking about it. That's when the piece is connected. I'm like, ah,

we got something here. Yeah. And then Keith said it was the one year anniversary from one where at his basement. Yeah. Which is also crazy. I can't believe that was a year ago already. That's hard to believe, too.

I feel like we were just yesterday sneaking up to his front door, peeking in his window. That trip still sets the record for the most ground we have recovered in a trip. It hasn't it? Most miles driven, probably. Yeah, it does have to be. There's not too many trips we start with a five-hour drive, you know. That was some serious driving. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Are we going to, we've got a title topic this week, but are we also going to recap the, as is tradition, the Olympia bodybuilding competition? That's, you know, we were arguing, is this the Olympia recap episode or the other title topic and the other title topic went out? But yeah, I mean, people wait all, I got one fly in this room and it is driving me insane right now. I think it keeps flying in front of your camera. It does. It's been doing it all day. I can't get it. I've been working all day, and it's one fly in here,

and it just keeps hanging around. So I'm going to be swatting all episode here. But, yeah, this is what we're known for outside of Jim Radar and Massonomics apparel and Red Cups. It's our Olympia recap every year. Yeah. Talk about that fly. The bees or hornets, I don't know exactly what they are in western, northeast South Dakota. this early fall,

I have never seen anything like this in my life. It is like a plague of these hornets. Like when you go outside our garage, there's frequently like, you can see 50 of them. Oh, that bad actually. Like in certain spots, like if there's garbage.

But it's not like just how you see a couple when you go outside. No, like at the soccer field this week, I'm like there's like every person there is, swatting away hornets. So what's the deal? I actually don't know. I've never,

I've, for all of their annoyance, I've never actually looked into it yet what the reason is. It's got to be something. I don't know, maybe the Phillips is or somebody local here will, I'm sure there's a known reason. I just don't actually know what it is because I've never followed up.

I just bitch about them. I don't look into what's going on. Yeah, what are you going to do? Stop, stop the whole. Big Megan said her son got stung at school and her boyfriend got stuck. I got work just days apart. Yeah, like they are literally everywhere.

Like, we'll get in our Jeep to go on a ride and like one of the kids will be freaking out because there's like four hornets on them. Like me and my two-year-old will go outside and they'll like be a hornet that gets in his face every time. Wow. You know, like, and I've classically been beating this line into the dirt that they're more afraid of us than we are of them. And my eight-year-old always says, then why?

do they land on us all of the time? Like they don't feel, it doesn't seem like they're afraid of us. They're on us all, always. Like, hey, I don't know. I don't make the rules. It's just how it goes here. Isn't that what people say about bees or something like that? Animals in general.

They're actually more afraid of us than we are of them. Like, do you know that? Just any animal? Because it is a fair point. Why is it landing on me if it's so afraid of me? If I was deathly afraid of something, would you go be on it? Let me get right up close to that. Would you choose that?

Would you choose that? To get a part of that. Okay. Keyes said they're bad in New York, but think about New York, that's such a big state. I don't know if that covers like, right. You just drive a little ways and you're in a whole different area.

Right. That's one of the larger states. All right. So we are, if known for anything over the years at Massonomics, over our 548 episodes, one of the top things is probably our Mr. Olympia.

coverage, right? Yes, absolutely. And you know what? I'm just looking here. You know, I used to be our, God, this fly,

our go-to source, we could always just hop on barbend and they have the latest breaking news. But all I see is the 11th best tricep exercises and workouts recommended by a CPT. Hmm. Must have had something more important to report this week, I guess. I found it on Bleacher Report.

Okay, there we go. Bleach Report has now taken place of Barbins. Listen to this. While this year's Arnold, what is this about the Arnold Classic? While this year's Arnold Classic raised its first place prize to 750,000, the Lempty kept the same prize structure as last year, however, that shouldn't and doesn't take away from the event's prestige. Well, what is the prize there? number one prize $600,000.

Oh, so the Arnold is actually a bigger prize than the Olympia now. Yeah. Wow. Both of those very large prize purses, though. Like that's a big deal. Yeah, you could argue what you got to do to your body. Maybe it's an worth it in the end, but at least if you're the absolute best in the world at it for that time, you're getting well compensated for a very short period of time.

If you're number one, then it's worse it. Everyone else, it's questionable what you're going through. because they're going through just as much. They're just not winning the money. So do you know who got, do you know who got first place? I actually do because I did see this get people, some people,

the only reason I saw it is because I saw people complaining about it on social media and not like a ton of people. I just saw a few people. Is it Nick Walker? Is that who it is? Yeah, Nick Walker is the winner of $600,000. Nick, the Body Walker. Is that the nickname?

No, I'm just making that off. We've got to find out what it is. That seems a little too obvious for a bodybuilder. Nicknamed me the body. Nick, the bodybuilder Walker. Okay, what is his nickname? I got to know it now. Because, you know, you can't.

For the fifth straight year. The mutant. The mutant. Yeah, that makes sense. The Mr. Olympia Open Division failed to crown a repeat champion. So no repeats in five years. They're just in a total state of flux over there. He got six last year and won at this year.

It was obvious during Friday nights pre-judging that defending Olympia champion Derek Lunsford, 2024 champ Samson Duada, and 26 Arnold winner Andrew Jacked were Walker's top competition. He is enormous, right? Yeah, he is. The veins and his legs are absolutely ridiculous. Have you seen those? Yeah, he's just huge. He's so large.

So much muscle mass. It kind of, it looks fake. There's something about him that look, like I can't tell. Well, and I suppose it's just the era that we live in that I look at, look at everything through the lens of is this AI? Actually, that is a good point. Yeah. Yeah, in this case, you just be like, well, yeah, that's just a bad AI rendering.

But also that reminds me of something I was thinking about AI. This is not an original thought to somebody, but AI videos, you know, how quote, unquote, good they've gotten. But yet at the same time, I agree. they've gotten so good, but at the same time, you spot it immediately now. Once you're aware of what that looks like specifically, you almost know instantaneously that it's an AI video.

Especially for it being so good. Yeah. Is it so good that you can spot it in a fraction of a second to almost every time? Yeah. It's that if you're under the age of 60. Yeah. It's that. It's also because a lot of people making them put no effort into their prompts

or anything too, you know, so just like make, make this. And I was, I just remembered, I was, I was going to tell you this. It's the same thing with, once you see this pattern, it's the same thing with like graphic design flyers people do right now where it's like image in the upper right hand corner. Yeah. Five more images, five more icons down the left. Three more rows of icons across the bottom. Yeah. Three more rows of icons.

Like, it's just like, and then you look, you're like, this single flyer has five pages worth of text on here. Like you can't even process it. Like it just loads it with so much crap. And we were just at a gymnasat. gymnastics gym for a birthday party this past weekend in town here. And I, my joke was going to be, man, Tanner, I found a place giving you a run for your money with signs. But everyone of, every one of their signs instead of being handwritten. There were all AI signs. And there were so many of them. And I was like, oh my God. And I'm like trying to like, I'm just like trying to put myself in

the shoes of, okay, because I get it. Some people that have a budget for stuff. So that's, you know, that's what they do. Okay, whatever. But I'm just like, if I'm just make them simpler and be Like, if I'm actually trying to garner information from here, I'm like, there's just four pages of content. Like, I can't process all this. I would have to take a picture to take it home and read it. But then what really got me is on the way out, we walked by the desk. And you know, there's like, I don't know, probably a high school age kid he's sitting there. And there's chat GPT up and there's a flyer on the thing.

I'm like, this is where the mustard's made here. I'm like, caught him in the act. I like to think he sat back and was like, ah, yes, my finest work yet. Nice. But do it only like that, but with a few more nonsensical icons. More icons and more text. Punchier text. Make it require five minutes of reading.

Should I change all of the passive aggressive signs to be handwritten signs to AI? Yeah. Make it a little more passive aggressive. Yeah. Just change them all. with the tie signs. Yeah, AI on all of them.

It is everywhere, though. That's, I mean, I mean, you don't even have to, it's been talked about a million times, but man, that stuff is everywhere right now.

It's great. And you can spot it for a mile away, you know. Oh, that's the funny part about how, you know, you say it's so good or whatever, but then it's like,

then why is it so recognizable? Immediately. Yeah. In all cases like that. But it's like you said, they're doing the, that you literally just did, I'm having a party.

Here's the date. Make a fly. And it's going to add eight icons of like a streamer exploding and saying fun for the whole family. It's just going to put in so many like filler things like that. They're bad. They are actually bad. They are. They are.

Okay. So Walker got first like we picked. We won that. We won the pool. Samson Duada got second for 200 Gs. Derek Lunsford got $100,000. Andrew Jacked got $40K and Antonio Burton got $30K. I might be the one name I don't recognize on that list.

Yeah. How did Sean Clarita do? Oh, yeah. That's the only one I'm concerned about. Ms. Olympia was Andrea Shaw? Oh, Brian's wife? I think so. Olympia 212 was Keone Pearson

Classic physique Was Nile Darwin Men's physique Ryan Terry Yada yada yada yada Um Yes most of those people won $50,000 Not a bad little Saturday No I mean

There again if you factor in everything you had to do together It's probably not a very good I was at the Arnold I heard him ask everyone their prep. It usually went like this. Oh, you look great. What did you do? You're saying when Arnold asked them. I started my cut 12 weeks ago and just really just dialed in the diet.

It's like Arnold asked for being like someone that's experienced so much and done so much at a high level in his life. His interview questions at the Arnold are the worst. Well, sometimes I can't tell if it's if he's because he's not an idiot. I'm like, are you kind of trolling the people here a little bit? You know, because he did, we watched him do it to like five people in a row. What did your prep look like? Well, it was the same every time. Like not, it was all the smaller, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, well, it just really started my cut eight weeks ago and just really dialed it in.

And they all had the same answer. Um, do you have any, any other thoughts on the Olympia this year? Hmm. Uh, best one yet was my takeaway. Really. really is groundbreaking. Is it controversial to you at all that Nick Walker won? I actually don't know it all.

I think he looks very muscular. I don't think from the me not knowing anything. Like, I mean, I can't, I couldn't have surprised a lot of people, right? Like maybe they had other favorites, but I don't think he'd be like, oh, he's not in the running at all, right? He definitely looks like a bodybuilder.

He's huge. Yeah. Nick the body walker, Mr. O, the body. Stay tuned until next year when we recap the 2027, Mr. Olympia. No other bodybuilding talk for now, though, I don't think. I think we got it. Okay. Do we want to do a little, how about a little trip down supporting our supporting members?

Oh, hell yeah. Oh, that beautiful bean footage. Roll that beautiful bean footage. This segment, relatively new, it's just the 48th time here in season two that we've done this, is supporting our supporting members. This is just one of the many ways that we give back to the supporting member, Massanomic community, also called The Crew, also in the past referred to as unpaid interns. I don't know.

I feel like that's fallen out of favor, but let's not forget that these are our unpaid interns. And YouTube can become a supporting member by going to Massanomics.com. slash join. There you'll see the various options and levels that you can sign up at. We're happy to have you sign up at any of them. We just want you to make sure to sign up on at least one of them. I mean, I guess you could sign up at more than one level. It would make more sense just to choose a higher level typically. You can sign up for all the higher levels too. Are you like multiple high levels? Yeah. Yeah. Like the highest three levels. You can actually actually you can just sign up for the highest level three different times if you want. It would let you do that.

Oh, now I like, I'd never considered that. I've never considered that. That is a really good idea. We would like to see some people do that. But yeah, if you like the show, even if you tolerate the show, we'd like to have you become a supporting member. We're on our quest to get one million supporting members.

And we've got a decent start. So come join the party. You could get on supporting members like these fellows and women here. Big Lisa took. took fourth at the 275 open class at Orange Light Strongman Competition. Big Jonti lifted at APL Australian Nats, lifting 484 squat, 334 bench, 561 deadlift for a 1381 total. Big Chris Mark, the man with two first names, bought his first home. Oh, hell yeah.

Somewhere in New York, on disclosed location. I'd like to think, do you think he has a room in the home just dedicated to fantasy football? It must not be a very good room this year The way it's going for him Yeah, is he struggling a little bit I know he lost the first two He's the Infernoon that doesn't know Big Chris Mark is the back-to-back

Reigning Melf-Massonomics football League champion And so far He's not so good this year He might be He might even be doing okay I don't know He's got you guys right where he wants you

That might be I do know who the number two highest point total for the season in the A league is right now. Yeah, it's me. Oh, my gosh. Number two is right in front of us, huh? Who does number two work for? Big macho finished his Ironman Augusta 70.3 in seven hours and 12 minutes. Seems good to me.

Yeah. Big Matt, new baby PR with the addition of Big Emily to the family. Congrats. Oh, congrats. Big Michael did The Guardians of the Night 5K in a time of 1858, which if I'm not mistaken, is very fast. Man, I was like, that's just like going out there and getting it over with, isn't it? That's blazing. Yeah.

Big Tyler Thompson won the Great Lakes Strongest Man competition, I believe. that included him having like an 885 pound axle bedlift. That's crazy, isn't it? Yes. So that video. And it made me think there's probably a little more there, right? Um, yes. I would say so.

Uh, here's an addition. Uh, key said Tyler Heinz, big Tyler Heinz got her pro card in figure or bikini or I'm not sure what the class. Does she still go to the gym? She does not. She doesn't live in South Dakota even. So it would be a long drive to get to the gym. Yeah.

Make that a challenge. Big John Corey got last place in his 5K. Congrats. Someone's got to do it. You know, if you're running from a lion, you don't need to be the fastest person. You just have to be faster than the slowest person. Unfortunately for John Corey, he's getting eaten by the lion.

He is the slowest person. Big Andrew and his wife, Michaela, I think Big Macalah, we're going to say Big Macalah, ran a relay team in Akron. It's a marathon relay team that they did in Akron. Akron. Tommy, do you know what the five largest cities in Ohio are? My population.

Let me take a swing at this. Yeah. Columbus. Got it. Cleveland. Biggest. Yep. Cincinnati.

Yep. Boy. I'm not thinking because I can't think of any Ohio cities. I'm thinking because what would be the next. Yeah. Akron. Akron. Number five.

Toledo? Bet. Yes. Oh, man. Big Ohio guy over here. Yep. Got them. Nailed it.

That's good because I was going to start to run out of Ohio cities after that shortly. I don't know what like six would be. London is pretty small. I don't think that's... I don't know. Is Dayton decent size? Oh, actually, yeah.

If I would have thought about it a little bit, I probably would have said Dayton over Akron. Yeah, but I kind of led with the Akron thing. Yeah, so... Got me there. Big Chris Ringo competed in his first adult hockey league game and got two assists.

Oh, hell yeah. There was a crew meeting. up in Florida with John Corey and Mike E. There was an East Coast, West Coast crew meet up, including Big Jeff, Big Andrew, and one of the Davids. This week's guest on our braddy little sister podcast. The Braddiest Little Sister podcast is unpaid and underrated. The guest was Big Adam, who was a veteran of the Lift Hardly of Easy Classic now after being here for year four. You, too, as an additional perk of being a supporting member, could make it on as a guest on that show.

if you come in, hang out, you know, maybe come to a crew event or something, you'll get in the know and you'll get to be a guest someday. And also, we have our drunken uncle podcast. That's half-baked thoughts on training with main host Waffle Iron Jim. They talked about the Covenantter Highland games that Big Eddie ran that many of them competed in together this week on half-baked thoughts on training. our drunken uncle podcast. How did they comment on the level of fun compared to how many clothes they had on?

Was that ever discussed? I think that they, if I'm remembering this right, they said it was the most fun that you could have with your clothes on. All right, okay. I was worried that maybe it didn't live up to the height, but okay, you've sold me on it. Yes, I'm actually, now that you say that, I'm demanding that at the rules,

meeting from now on at every lift Hardly Vee competition. Whoever's conducting the rules meeting, it's mandatory that they say that this is the most fun. And they can say it in the worst, most boring voice they have. That's fine. It doesn't matter. Just as long as they say it. Contractually obligated.

Jonah is going to make Jonah say it in the strongman rules meeting too. Kurt has to do it for even the grip competition. This is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. It's now mandatory comment. You can say it as fast. as low key as you want, but it is required to be said legally.

You can, I don't even mind if you say that we made you say it. Like, like, you just, you can even say that you have to say. In that order. Yeah, I want Jonah to even say that this powerlifting meet is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. I will say in my garage this December, too. Yes, everyone, just so we know, this is actually the most fun you can have with your clothes on. And then everyone has to laugh. Yeah, just slap their knees, bent over, just died in laughter.

By the last year that we did that Highland Games, and they said that, we were all, like, rolling, laughing. We were just waiting for it. And then when he said, he was going to say the thing. It's like, hell yeah, it is. It's the thing in school and, like, you know, like something's going to happen and you're trying not to laugh about it. And then it happens and you're kind of like sort of trying not to laugh about it. And it just makes it even funnier. Well, and then the guy.

that said it was just loving it because he's like yeah that one really hit this year we got a good crowd yeah it's a little tougher the last few years yeah tough crowd yeah um yeah most fun you can have with your clothes on that's what they say about highland games it's now officially the mass nomic statement of any every event you know NASCAR has gentlemen start your engines it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on And someone pours like a sparkling water over your head. Highland games ain't bad, but it's not the most fun I've had with my clothes on. I mean, it's pretty fun.

Is it the most fun you've ever had with your clothes on? I don't think so. But, yeah, I saw some of those videos. And I'm like, you know what? The Highland games were pretty fun. Oh, that was fun. I wish that one existed locally. I would still be doing it if it was around here.

it was fun yeah it was my least favorite event was the hammer throw I like the the sledge hammer right is that what it was yeah the hammer yeah I did not I did not like that one that one was a real tough one for me wait heavy weight for distance can be a real biotch the last year we did it the heavyweight for distance I got it so dialed in I think I threw my heavyweight for distance farther than my lightweight for distance and that's not saying like my lightweight for distance wasn't like really bad. I think my heavyweight for distance was just really good, if I remember correctly.

Right, right. I mean, I think we did it first. I think we did it first, and I got like that motion dialed in. And then when we went to lightweight for distance, I was going too fast and I was like, you know, kink in the chain kind of. Like I was out of speed and I was losing it. I think it was what was.

Weight over bar is a sweet little. And that one's fun. Yeah. And like the Kivers are all just really fun too. Like there's a lot that are just really, really fun. Yeah. I don't love this. the hammer myself even too. I like, I'm okay at the hammer, but I don't, I like, I do like the,

uh, Braymar Stone because it's like shot put and I did shot put. Yeah. Kind of an unfair advantage, but, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, caber's fun. There's also a just an element of, you know, it's a little, like scary in a good way to make to carry, like the, like this caber's fun in this way that it's dangerous. Yeah, like, what's, what's he going to do here? Right. You know, because they also every year have to say the thing like you know how many it takes five micrograms of direct pressure on your collarbone to snap it in half like if I like five first of all you're just making making up units of measurement and I'm like are you a doctor like how do you know how much shatter that clavicle beyond the point of repair you will become an amputee it takes 12.7

desoleters of pressure to snap a clavicle clean into. I'm like, to not let the caber touch your clavicle. Also with the caber, there's a thing, like, I don't know that I ever personally did it, but there's this thing of like, if you drop it, you know,

they want you to drop it a service. They don't want the cable broken. Yeah. You know, like, but I'm like every time, like, what, Most of them are old as shit, and you can just hear them cracking when they're doing it. All the time.

I'm like, some of these people don't have a great control of how they're dropping it. No, no one here really. The whole point of this is none of us even know what we're doing in the first place, let alone controlling how to make this thing fall gracefully. Like how to, it's like being good at like bailing on a skateboard. He's never skateboarded before. You think I'm going to be good at bailing on a skateboard? I'm like, I'm not Mikey over here.

You know, like he does the somersault role. and pops up and is like, hey, I'm going to be like, no, I'm actually going to be like hurt and lying on the ground here. Just all face first. What was that? Supporting our supporting members? Yes. I believe that's what that segment's called. Slash Highland Games.

Glory Day Recap. Okay. Do you remember in the 2018 Massonomic Strongman Showdown? We did wait over bar as one of the events. That was the event I did. I was thinking about that the other day. it's kind of a wild that strong man show

was like I've never experienced anything quite like the 2018 Masanomic Strongman Showdown you know some people in this day and age might not like the way that it's kind of hard to repair

for a few of those events the way that the 2016, 17 and 18 strong man showdowns were first of all I'd say every single person that did them loved them.

They couldn't possibly have been more fun. Yeah, it was. I don't think. But if you did those today, everyone would be bitching about everything. Oh, people would actually, it's a good thing a lot of people nowadays

didn't do those things because they would have back when we were proper good. Yeah, they would have cursed Massanomics and never seen us again. Because we were just winging it, man. Standardization is a strong man. We run and gun, baby. Like the yoke.

Like with Alan Larson and the heavy-assed yoke in 2018, we just got to where they had used all the weights. Like it was a rising bar heavy yoke. And we're like, yeah, we got, you guys have all the weights right now. You guys are just racing on this last one. And like they were both kind of like, yeah, that kind of makes sense. You know, like, I guess that is what we're going to do. Yeah.

They had both over a thousand. They both had like, I was like, I knew it was like around. Yeah, it was 900 or a thousand. I mean, it was insane. And it was just like, yeah, you guys are going to have to race. I know that wasn't the event, but now this is officially a race on this last one in winter. takes all. Yeah, this is a tire flip. It is on the ground that also happens to have rain, water, and mud on it. So good luck with that. The Atlas stones were completely covered in mud.

The Atlas stones, to tacky, whatever. It doesn't matter. It was water all over them. Some people were trying to use tacky, and it was just like soup. It didn't do anything. It was also like 45 degrees, I'm pretty sure. It was oddly cold for the time of year. You know, it could be insane. How was it actually? so, that was the first year in 2016. Like, it had to have been 45s a stretch, but it felt like it was like 55 degrees that day. It must have just been windy enough and, you know, cold and

rainy that, I mean, just windy and rainy enough that it brought the temp down. Yeah, and no sunshine that day either. Well, very wet. Remember, we were selling merch out there in that, like there was a merch booth? Was there that first year there was? Yeah, there was even, like not that there was much to it,

but there was stuff for sale. Talk about just winging it, though. I mean What else was there besides There's farmers carry Car deadlift Which no one had anything to Unless you're at Massonomics gym

Which I mean basically everyone was But even then you didn't have really any way to train it hardly You know it was just like Even more extreme Because Larry just on Saturday At the gym Larry brought this up He's like yeah I was digging through my shirts

He goes that first strong man show we did My shirt was from 2012 And I'm like damn yeah That was a long time ago. That's the first state state fair that Larry and I did was. Those ones, oh my God. Okay. So the first one we did was in 2012. And I'm like, you know the crazy thing about that? Every single event we went and did there, none of us had ever done any of those things ever in our life. Like one of the events was a farmer's carry. The first time I ever picked up a farmer's carry was when the whistle blew for that

competition to go start. Yep. Like that was the first time I'd ever even like seen one in my, you know, outside of on World Strongest Man on TV. It wasn't one of them, wasn't there like an actual like clean-in press with like a barbell one year or something? Yeah. And that first year I know one of the events also was just a straight up chunk out of concrete that you had to carry like a tombstone, like a Hussifil stone.

Yeah. That was also the first time I had ever like picked up something heavy and carried it in the front. Yeah. Like that was when like the whistle blew and it was like, okay, do this now. And I was like, oh, all right. And then we did, we did a tire flip and I had never flipped a tire before.

And it was a heavy ass tire. And you're in the grass the whole time on this, right? Yeah. Yes. Because it wasn't there, wasn't like a 500 pound deadlift for reps or something? That first year, I can't remember what exactly the deadlift was. The photo in the gym of Larry holding it, is that the first year or not? That's not the first year.

Well, wasn't the thing with that is everyone just setting it in the grass. So eventually it starts, it starts to turn into a deficit on the plates. That was a ladder deadlift that year because that ended up with, Eve and I where I pulled 635 and he pulled 675. Like it was just jumping by plates and quarters. We also did the squad event that everyone would hate the way that this event was. It was just on a rickety old bar that was actually, it was actually like a bow bar that was just homemade in the sense that he drove over it with his car to get a bend to it.

And you had to, It was just on, like, say, almost like the Brad Gillingham pipe, just straight up pipe. And the squat depth was hitting that on both sides. It was very jarring. And it was the same for everyone. There was no like, oh, let me measure how far you go down. You're 58. Yeah, it's like, no, everyone gets the same here.

Yeah. It's just these are where the bars are at. Yeah. And you go down to that. All that being said, nobody complained about a single thing. because we're all like, I don't know, I guess this is what's strong. I remember you guys coming back and be like, oh, it was awesome. It was so much fun.

It was awesome. We came back from that first one in 2012, and I'm like, that was freaking fun. You know, like, it was, like, that very first one in 2012, the very last event was the farmer's carrying. It was like a race. And I missed beating the guy that won by like a fraction of a second. And if I would have beat him on that, I would have got first place overall. And up until then, I'm like, I didn't even know if I could do any of this stuff.

And I'm like, oh, I can do like all of this stuff. You know, like is what I left there thinking. I'm like, this is fun. Yeah. Outside of it being 110 degree. That first year, it was insanely hot also because it's in August, like first in South Dakota. And it was, you know, it was 100. It was almost, it's like as hot as Phoenix is only not so dry.

Right. So there's that humid humidity blanket wrapping up. And then you're wrapped up in like reband warm pants at the same time, you know. Yes, yes. I guess I got completely sidetracked on the whole thing. But especially those state first strong man competitions, if people were to do those now and they showed up, they'd be like, I'm quitting.

I'm not doing this stuff. Event two said chunk of rock. It was literally like, no, the guy running it, he didn't know what it was going to be either until that day. So yeah, and then like a few years in a row, we did this, I guess you'd call it a five natural stone medley where you had to pick up the stone. And then it was just like onto like the tops of plastic barrels. And they were like always breaking and like falling over and stuff. And it was very much element.

And it was literally Chuck ran everything. That's what I say. And there was no volunteers. It was just a guy doing all of it on his own. It was the lone, they don't call him the lone wolf for no reason. And he was like, he was the timing, the scorer, telling who's up, you know, like, doing absolutely everything. If only people knew how good they had it nowadays.

Yeah. And it was, he ran a really, they were really hard. And more than on one occasion, I saw people come. Because you would get people that just straight up would like come out of the crowd to do it. It was the walk-ons. Like you would get people in their cowboy boots to come do it. And on multiple years, multiple occasions, I saw people start and not be hurt and literally just quit and be like,

I'm not doing any more of these things. Like I'm not going to do that. Like multiple times people, even people that were like power lifters. I thought there was one year there was even a guy that was in like pretty good shape and you're like after the first event, he's like, yeah, I'm done. He just quit. Yeah.

He literally was like, yeah, I'm not doing this. That happened. Yes, that actually happened that he's like, yep, and he wasn't hurt. He's just like, yeah, I'm just not doing this. Yeah, it's just too much. Yeah. Do we want to do a certified training facility the week? Or should we save that for later?

Maybe we'll say that for a little bit here because I don't have J-Miter pull-up or anything. Okay. Well, we should probably do a title topic then, I think. Yeah, did you do one more ad? Yeah, do you want to hear, do you want to kick people? off the live show too. That's what I'm doing. You know what's a cool color way of barefoot shoes? It's this blood red.

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to save 10% off your next order. And then did your dental, you look in your dental hygienesis wearing shak noses? Kind of more into maximal footwear, not minimal footwear. I'm like, well, it's weird I didn't notice the shaknosis

until now, but I don't know how we made it this far into the conversation without me realized you wearing shack notes. I was to say it, I didn't have a pretty good feeling about today. Like, you might be the only other person I know besides me that owns a pair of

Shaagnosis. In the entire continental U.S. Out of all my 90s basketball seekers, Shaqnosis are the largest. And I don't mean size like that. The inside is of size 11. The outside's a size 17. 1710D or whatever the width is measured in.

16 triple E width. You fall into a pool with those. You're just sinking to the bottom and never coming back up. That's what the mafia would strap onto people's feet. That's what it is. Go swimming with the fishes with some shack noses. None of the other ones pulled a candle towel large. I'm like, did something get messed up with mine in the manufacturing process?

Like, why are these so big? I'm like, I can't pack them in any reasonable luggage. You need a separate carry-on just for the check noses. Yes. These will just be like, oh, sir, this suitcase is overweight. What's in here? Just two shoes.

Don't worry about it. That's just, they don't believe it in the, going through the thing. These shoes are enormous. Like, yes. A barefoot dot store. That's right. I cut you off there.

That's my mad. Well, and they're Shagnosis talk. All right. I got a little something for us here, I think. And you know what that means when you hear the sound of disturbed? It's time for a Masonomics title topic at the 53 minute mark of the episode for those playing along at home with time stamps. This will be one of those title topics probably that there are. are going to be people clicking on it that don't follow the Massonomics podcast.

So you probably had to talk about shak noses before we got here. You've probably been angrily scrolling through endlessly just doing the skip 30 seconds or whatever it is. And you've now gotten to this point. And you're just absolutely furious. So go ahead. Leave your comment about the times dams. And leave your comment about how you had to suffer through 53 minutes of people. Talking about lifting and other things this whole way to get to our back machines the best machines?

What? Now, this title topic, you said this when you're in Arizona, and I'd never heard anyone say this before. And I was it wearing a BJ's gym? It was after that BJ's gym. I was like, man. Okay, he has a ton of, he has a ton of machines. We've talked about this last week. He has like 30 commercial machines in his gym from all companies,

Sybex, Prime, not Arsenal, Hammer Strength. I think he had some life fitness. I mean, he had everything in there. Great stuff. And the thing I kept noticing is a lot of them were back machines. And when we were driving away, I'm like, God, you know, he actually has a surprising number of back machines in there. And you're like, I've always kind of thought back machines are the best machines.

And I was like, what? I've never heard anyone say that before. And I thought about for a second, I'm like, God, you know what? You're right. And then we go, this has to be a title topic. So I need you to sell me on this. But I think I'm in agreement on this with you. But I need to tell me your thought process here.

Well, and as I've been thinking about it over the week, I just wondered if I was going to change my mind at all that I'm like, are back machines the best machines? So I don't know if I have a definitive answer. But here's what I would say. Here's what I'm going to break machines into. Back. press, arm.

Just go on Jim Raider. We haven't broken it. That's more specific. For this, when, also for this, when I say machines, I'm talking either selectorized or plate loaded machines that you sit on or in or about or, you know, that sort of thing. So it's a leg, back, press, and arms. Does that generally encompass most machines?

I mean, in the most broad sense. Yeah, yeah. Arms, I'm just throwing out the window. Because what I think makes it good is what a machine offers that you can't get as well just through dumbbells and barbells. That's what I think makes a machine generally good is when it provides a novel stimulus in comparison to the barbells and dumbbells, or at least the most novel possible or the most unique

or the most different or provides something that those do. don't. And with arms, I'm like, there's just so many ways to use cables and dumbbells and barbells that I'm like, those things alone, I mean, would I do an arm machine? Absolutely. I'm not saying I wouldn't love to do some curls on a preacher curl, selectorized machine. That's fun too. But there is so many things you can do. I agree completely on this one. Like that really feels like the point of diminishing returns for me is yeah you know once you have a machine doing so many those movements it's like dude you can just yeah like you said between there's so much variety you can already do with cables and it's so easy to yeah it's so easy to position things how you need

yeah with cables barbells dumbbells curl bars different attachments like yeah you can light up your arms in so many different ways yeah that do not require your head yeah like there's a million different things and i still like and when we say machine we're not talking about like a cable Like we're saying like a dedicated like our machine here. Like a cable machine that you're positioning to be. So arm is out of the running for me. Then the next category I'd go to is press machines. And I would say, you know, chest press machines,

shoulder press machines. Almost even just I would even lump like some shoulder machines in there with it. You know, even maybe some of, if you want to even throw in like bilateral raise machines. Like your multiply machine. Yeah. Stuff like that. And I'm like.

Like, I have, it's not within my possession, Big Debo has it, but I have like the ATX standing chest press, and I've wanted that very much. You also have the Temple Games multi-flight too. Yeah, and I have the Temple game, and I have a Cibex chest press and incline chest press, yeah. Yeah, and I've used a bunch of different chest presses. I just never like, generally I don't love those that much,

because there again, I still think there's just so, I just kind of like all the things I can do with the barbells and dummies. bells really well. I agree. I still like the machines. Like I'm excited about getting that ATX machine because it's still just something different to do. But I usually don't ever feel like I'm running out of stuff to do like with dips. And those machines are those movements are so easy to load heavily with barbells.

Right. And also get a ton out of it too, you know. Yes. I agree. Then it comes to the two that I'm almost slightly torn on is leg machines and back machines. I did make the comment that back machines are the best machines because I've said that. I don't know if I've ever said it out loud. I probably have, but I've thought that in my head a thousand times until I really analyzed it this week.

And I'm like, or do I think that leg machines are the best machines? And I could be pulled either way because what I like about leg machines is that you get to sit on your ass on a lot of them. You can sit on your ass. What I like, though, is you can, for a lot of people, it's the back. Back squat, of course, is the king leg exercise or front squat or safety bars, you know, standing up and squatting while you're holding something. Then there's a whole bunch of machines that do that in a different way. And I do like those machines a lot because I have a hack squat, a pendulum squat, a leg press,

a belt squat. Those are the four big ones. And I'm like, I have all four of the big versions. And I really like, I don't actually like the belt squat. squat, but I really like the option of the belt squat for people because it gives them something to do in most of these cases that doesn't involve their back, their low back in the same way that the barbell. And some people can't do that.

So I'm like, that actually does provide something pretty unique that if someone can't do a barbell back squat for whatever reason, well, now we have all these machines for your legs that you can do. But back, coming back to the original kind of the title topic, I really like. like back machines because you can do barbell and dumbbell rows, which are both exercise. I like dumbbell rows. I've done barbell and pendle rows a lot before. I don't actually really like those that much because a lot of times just because of the

squatting and deadlifting, my low back can be a little fried. And then when I'm doing barbell rows, I'm like, I'm not really feeling much in my upper, like I can't really load this in a way that I get to my upper back. Yeah. Yeah. Like with the lower back becomes the limiting factor. That's my exact thought process on those. In fact, the last time I actually hurt my back was last year after doing some heavy deadlifts.

And it's like, all right, next up, we got barbell rose. And it was like, all right, four reps into this, boom. And I'm like, why do I even think I need to do this? So I'm not a big fan of barbell rose. I do like dumbbellbell rows, particularly with the kickstand, actually. With the kickstand is the best I've ever liked dumbbell rose. But they're also their own animal, too. what I do really like is back machines.

The king back machine that everyone likes is the lap pulldown. That's like the back machine that almost gets overlooked as a machine, but that's the first machine everyone gets. It's funny when you say back machines, I don't think that immediately comes to mind for most people. And that's really what it is, you know. Right. But the lap pulldown machine is the king machine.

That's the most common machine we see in people's gyms. Like if someone has an actual machine, you know, that's either plate loaded or a weight stack, it more than likely is a lap pull down. Well, the other thing you can do without machines on back is the pull-up. So I'd say barbell row, the dumbbell-bell row, and the pull-up would be the big three, which I'm a big pull-up fan also. Pull-ups are sometimes difficult to load and scale and stuff, though.

You know, it's kind of the tricky part where with a lap pull-down, you can do all that stuff really easily. But then we get into the back machines that I really like, which are like the humbler that we have, which is the arsenal. It's almost like the chest-supported T-bar row style machine. And then the hammer strength machine I have that ever, you know, the ISO low row or whatever they call. And I really like those. And everyone at the gym that uses them always likes those machines get used all of the time.

Like I don't see our chest press machine get used. Or the Bodymasters 212, you know. The lap, hold on machine. The Bodymaster's 212, yes. I'd like to call it by what it actually is, you know. The Body Master's 2-1-2 with 250-pound stack, yes. And ankle pads. I, you know, saw some hypotheses in the last week's comment about what this path were

but not anybody that. You have not used this machine because you don't realize the machine. That's an also I'm like, I was curious if anyone knows. I haven't, nobody knew. They all thought like, oh, you know, this, maybe this or that. But I would like someone that that knows definitively what those were supposed to be for. Get Mr. Masters on the phone so we can talk to him about this machine. Mr. the body masters.

Nick's dad. Nick Walker's dad. Mr. The Body Master. Yeah. Mr. the body. So I really, those, particularly, you know, those three back machines. and variations of back machines like that are kind of the king because it's really hard,

I feel like to get some of that stimulus without it. I mean, you can get a sick workout without any of that stuff. You can do barbell rows, dumbbellbell rows, pull-ups. I don't know what I'm missing, variations of that, but those machines, you are able to do something a little different feeling in your back. Like the first time you use like the humbler, the next day you're going to be like, oh my God, what did that just do to my upper back? Well, yeah, because you're not loading.

There's tumors in my back. Right. You're not destroying your spine in the process of like blowing up your back meat, you know? Like, yes. So I don't know. To me, the question is back, are back machines the best or our leg machines the best? I really like both. I'm probably almost going to go back machines just because I really like the barbell squat.

That's hard for me. to replace that with a machine. That's what I was thinking about this this week a little bit. And that's what I kept coming to too, is that the two categories of machines that, to me, feel like they're in contention for this, are like you were saying, leg machines and back machines.

The thing with leg machines are is you can just load your legs so well with a barbell or a safety squat bar, or through split squats if you need to reduce the load, but still just hit them hard. With a kettlebell. Yeah. Like there's just ways you can do that. And it is so effective.

And especially if you're in, into power lifting. I mean, that also is kind of like the movement you need to be good at anyways. So like I'm usually, after like a really heavy set of squat, I'm not like looking for that much more stimulus. You know, like the amount of stimulus is already like damn near maxed out. You know, I have, I have room for little accessories.

So that's kind of been where I'm just like, I don't honestly feel like I'm missing much not having leg machines. But I guess I didn't even, when I mentioned leg machines, I didn't even bring up. the granddaddy of all leg machines, of course, the king of sitting on your ass. You know, I was talking about, right. I wasn't even considering that in my mind. I didn't even discuss that one.

I literally never even thought about it because I was thinking of like the important leg machines. Yeah. That's not the important group for you. Yeah. That's like most people's like prime machine that they want to think of is the leg extension leg curl. And I was like, oh no, we have the belt squat, the hack squat, the pendulum squat,

the leg press. Because I'm like, to me, why the whole. Those machines are all still pretty good machines. They're all hard. And they're also like replicating the squat. Yeah. Yeah, which is why they are hard too. But yes.

That is really funny. Yes. Yeah. The poor leg breast leg extension got left off the list. It didn't get invited to the party there. Yeah, but that is my thing is that those ones are just so easy to load through those movements. And like that kind of is sort of, I mean, for us at least, it's not kind of the point of going to the gym is to be doing heavy squats and stuff like that. Right.

where, you know, after you do those, it is much harder to really hit heavy barball rows and things like that. And in my case, it seems to be where injury starts to go up a lot too is following up a set. Kind of the unprotected lower back in some of those movements, really. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's, yeah, I agree with you. I think you're right. I think back machines are the best machines. also your back is hard i mean there's not as many things if you don't have a cable machine especially like cables of any kind because that's actually what has been i've that that's been my realization is i have not i do not hit my back hard enough outside of that pull downs so i think that's that's common though my back lately yeah with the voltra i think that that's common that a lot of people the probably one of the parts that they most frequently neglect to hit hard enough is the back like i think

a lot of people would say that that are into powerlifting. If you come from the school of west side or anything like that, you'd say back. Like you can't do too much back work. Like is a thing people say. And I kind of agree with that. I mean, you left the reverse hyper off the list talking about back machines. Yeah, I'm thinking as far as back machines thinking more of like not lower back stuff. Right.

More like that. Kind of like row type things. Right. Here's the other pro that I have for back. machines. If you, I was having this conversation with someone else the other day in the gym. You know, if you do a lot of pressing, if you do a lot of benching, a lot of volume, then you want to do like a secondary lift that's also pressing, like say dumbbells or a press

machine, anything like that. It's very common. You'll probably get muscle soreness, which is what you're after. Like nothing wrong with that. But like, it's very common people get like a little bit of. vanegging shoulder problem or like you can only do so much pressing and eventually you're like yeah my freaking shoulder hurts or my you know the like everyone's experienced that right like that especially if you power lift train that you're like yeah I was benching three times a week and my

shoulder hurts now it's like well yes of course it does or your pack or your elbow like one of those right but on back how many times have you done back workout and be like oh yeah my what hurts I know. Like I did so much I did so many chest supported rows and lap pull downs and that my upper bat like what lap pump is just too crazy.

I can't take it anymore. Like is there anything that people injure in that way? You know, like outside of hurting your pulling or tearing something. Right. Right. But you don't get,

you know what I'm talking about like in that shoulder pain that you get from pressing that a lot of people experience to some degree. Yep. I just don't know. know that you come across that and like you like yeah i really i hit the iso low row too hard and now i just like i have back tendinitis you know like i don't even know yeah yeah outside of like actually doing something where you just straight up just injure your back somehow right which i don't right

i mean to me that doesn't really happen on those machines though because like you typically are supported pretty well on those machines you know right um yeah yeah it's it's it is an interesting thought, but. But so you say you think you, I kind of messed up your train though, but that you, the part that you needed to hit more was your back. That was, yeah, that was like my, I was just thinking about it. I'm like, dude, I totally agree. Your back is, like we're saying, outside of having dumbbell or barbell row type movements, it is a hard muscle group to hit in a variety of ways in a home gym just because you get limited. And that is something with the vulture that I have been thrashing my back lately between lap pull downs, single arm lap pulldowns, seated rows, chest supported rows,

just because I can put the Voltra in a few more spots. That gives me a little more flexibility. And for the first time, like, actually, like, burning out my back on sets. And I'm like, oh, it just feels good, actually. I like this. Have you tried to do a low row at all with the Voltra? Yeah. So what I do there, I should show you my setup.

It's actually kind of funny. So I sit on the ground, but, you know, I need to put my feet on something. to brace you. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So what I do is I run my bench parallel with the upright. You know, I put my bench into the rack, but then I have the head of the bench where,

you know, where it kind of makes more like a T post where it comes to the ground. I have that out towards me from my feet. So my one foot goes up against the vertical post of my bench. And my other foot just touches the, uh, just one of the feet of the bench. So they're even. They're even with each other. Um, and then, you know, if I need to be two and a half feet from the upright, I just pull the bench out.

two and a half feet. The bench doesn't slide. And the bench doesn't slide. Yeah. And it works perfectly fine for me. So I was doing like low rows with like, I don't know, like 140 the other day with that. And it worked totally great.

And then you can get that because you're, you have the whole upright to work with. You know, you can get the height dialed right where you need it. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. That's why I've been doing that. And it feels really, really good.

And then like chest supported rows. Same thing. I just put my bench at like, you know, whatever. I don't even look at the numbers on mine. I just know three notches up. on mine and then I just put the put the Voltra at a low point and then I've done different I actually was doing like

I was doing a dog I was actually using the sputting long abstrap and I was you know doing balls of the same because then it doesn't touch the bench because you can pull it apart exactly yes and it works really really good and I like that but I'm like ah you know what I wonder if I get a little more of a hammer strength vibe if I just do just a regular handle and do one side of the time and get into it a little more

and that I felt like I was like really really hit my back a lot harder when I could do one side at a time. So that was just this last week what I started doing. So I'm going to do more of that one. And actually one arm lap pull downs. You ever do one arm lap pull downs?

I don't know that I've done much one arm lap pull downs before. I was, the thing with those is you actually can get or because you go, you can go farther down. Yeah, because you can get just an insane stretch like at the top really extended out. And then down at the bottom and sets of those in the Voltra Man, like those light me up too.

So I'm having a lot of fun actually doing those movements because I don't typically do them. So, yeah, that's been something I've actually really enjoyed in training lately. So back machines are the best machines? Yep. The Voltra is my favorite back machine. The best back machine ever made. Let us know in the comments.

And also, one more thing in the back machines, technically, you know, I mean, we kind of said, we kind of said the reverse hyper is sort of a back machine. But also you could sort of make that same. argument for like GHD's GHRs a little bit. True. And even like a 45 is, you know, a back machine to a certain extent too. That's true. If you put those in the category too, they run away with it.

And all those machines are very hard to replicate without that machine. Right. You know. Right. Yeah. I've been doing high rep back raises. Dude, I see you doing those and I'm so jealous that I don't have anything to do those. You know where I came, I came across someone saying that, uh,

this high rep back raises, which to me would have been an insane thought. I'm like, when you say high rep, what are we talking? Like sets of 30 or 40. Very high. Like they're going to say like 15. No,

like just like just body weight. And basically it's so weird. I can literally, you can do like 25 and be like, I don't know if this is even doing anything. And then at like, I just hit this wall when I get to 28 where I'm like, oh my God,

the entire pump in my posterior change. It just went from zero to a million. Like I try to, like, say the first 20, I try not to phone them in. And even though that doesn't feel like much. And I'm like, try to do everyone really well. But it just, it takes, you get to a point. And then all of a sudden I'm like, holy crap, this just went from zero to midnight really quick. And I don't, but they said because it was helped, they were having back problems.

and they like, like, yeah, went to high rep back extension. Pumping so much blood into your back on a set, like, on a, and I haven't really been having back problems, but I just, I kind of, I do it as like my last exercise of that day, kind of too. You know, I'll do, um, like on a squat day and then sandbags work. And then like, I'll go to that and just do like two or three sets of 30 or something like that. And I'll get done and be like, yeah, I am freaking fried from that. I don't know what this, I don't know what supports it, but it's just what.

I've been doing lately. I would love, well, I might have something in the works here, but I would love to have an option to do that, or even if I wanted to, like, you know, roll out a barbell and just even have some weight on and do it that way too or, you know, with dumbbells. I'd love to give that a go. Hopefully I can add that into my rotation here sometime soon. I like to do those weighted with a sandbag too. Ah, yeah.

I've seen you doing that. Yes. I also don't know why or if that's anyone else would like it. But I do really, like those, if I do those heavy, I like to do with a sandbag. bag. There's something about that that is just really gnarly, too. Yeah. I like the, I like our 45, what do you call that piece that we have? Do you call that a 45 degree back extension or like some companies called Roman chair?

Yeah. Yeah. I really like that one that we have. Yeah. I think it's a body master's 120 if I remember. I have to look. What is it? It's, uh, it's like, it says on there.

I think I didn't cover up the. Yeah, what was it? I might have to add that one to Jim Radar. You should. You should. Yeah, what the heck? I don't know if that's on. I have just about, of all the weird shit in Massonomics, Jim, I have just about everything on Jim radar now, too, but I might not have that on there.

That pulled on was a big one, getting that one. That was one of the big ones that get chalked off the list. Yeah. All right. Let us know in the comments, though. Do you think back machines are the best machines? What machines do you think are the best machines? The hip abductor adductor guys are going to be coming out.

hard on this one. They're going to be coming for vengeance. The hip thrust crowd is going to be out for blood. Yeah. People have been wanting, I saw a few requests for weekly agronomy updates, so I'll do a very, very quick agronomy update. It's been really wet now. Like, we're now all of a sudden wet, and it's going to delay the start of harvest a

little bit because it's just the moisture doesn't stop. It's raining like crazy right now. My grass has never been so thick and long in my entire life. said the same thing. I'm like, I'm so ready for the grass to be done. And here it is freaking the greenest and thickest. It's been all season.

I mean, I don't know if I've ever had grass this thick in my entire life. It's insane. Like, we actually, I mowed like two days ago and I looked at them. I'm like, it looks like it's a forest already.

I mean, I swear the other day, it was up to my kids' knees when they were outside. I'm like, and it's not even like when your grass gets like weird and like there's kind of long spots, but it's like, no,

just it's all that. Like it's thick and it's that long and it just messes with your brain. There's so much of it. Yeah, that's exactly what ours is like right now too. So that's the agronomy port. It's really wet. And the start of harvest is going to be off to a slow start because of how wet it is. People are going to be rutting some things up, you might say.

Yeah. You don't want to rut it up, but you also got to get it in there and get the crop off. Yeah, got to do it. That's got to be done. All right. What do we want to tackle next? Okay. I will say, I've been doing a little, just to bring it up one more time.

I've been doing a little tinkering with the Voltra. Yes. And I'm not going to give away yet because I think we're going to make a video on this. But I really do feel like I have solved just the biggest issue with the Voltra that no one talks about. I mean, I'm right, I'm right in the YouTube headline right now. But God, I feel like I have solved it. I've sent you videos. And I'm like, dude, that's it.

I can't believe no one's thought of this. And no one has. Jim Radar can prove it. No one is doing this. There's some people that are doing something somewhat similar. And I'm like, this is the solution. And it works great and it's better.

What's the title? Is it solving the biggest issue with the Voltra that nobody's talking about? The biggest problem. The biggest problem with the Voltra that no one's talking about. And this solves it all. We need to get that video recorded. Damn it. What are we doing?

Such a banger of a title. Stupid podcast. I got this video. And I am not, I'm being honest. I don't think that's, I don't think that's hyperbole. I don't think that's YouTube clickbait. I legit feel like I've solved an enormous problem with the Voltra. It will also be great YouTube clickbait, though.

I mean, it will be, yes, because the Voltra has, there'll be some people tell me I'm doing it wrong. I'm like, nope, I've seen the other ways people are doing this. This is the best. I don't care what you say. This is the best. I've used it. You know, I've been in the trenches of the Voltra.

I know what it's like. So stay tuned, people. So will that be revealed in the video though, not on the podcast? Yeah, I'm not going to tell people on here. You'll have to watch. Stay tuned for the video. Okay. Hopefully we have that video out the next month.

Yeah. Video-wise, what came out last week? Was it the gym tour? Yeah, that was the Massonomics. Gym tour, yeah. Okay, Massanomics gym tour. I think we already talked about that. So the podcast that comes out or the YouTube that's coming out when this is, by the time

this is out is the first tour that we, we've released from the Phoenix trip, which is going to be Big Tim Edwards 5-0 garage gym, the paint master himself. Yeah, that line comes up a lot. Yes, I did paint that. I love you go. And we have a tight and reverse hyper here. It looks like it's been painted black, but these come black.

Well, yeah, it was black, and then it was red, and then it was silver. Now it's black again. So it's got a few coats. He goes, yeah. I'm like, I remember thinking that I was looking. I'm like, this paint doesn't look factory, but this only comes in black and it is currently painted black. You take you through the cycle of colors it's been through. Yeah, he's like, because he's like, it was gloss black, and then it was matte, and then it was red, and now it's matte again or whatever, you know.

Yeah, that's good. A lot of layers. Yeah, so check that out. And then the other thing that I wanted to make people aware of is we're in the middle stages. We really have not touched on this yet, but we've got something big coming in terms of supporting member mailer. A few times a year, we send something out in the mail to all supporting members. And we know what this next one's going to be. we know kind of when it's going to be.

So the time to make sure that you're signed up is now. You know, it's not going to be too far in the future that we're going to be rolling this out. So if you're not a supporting member now, now is the time that you need to become a supporting member because you're not going to want to miss this one. Right? This is going to be one that kind of wanted to tease something,

but I feel like everything I would say would give it away too much. I don't like that. I was really curious. So, throw out there that wouldn't give it away. What I'm just going to say is it could be an important one. Yeah. You know,

maybe that doesn't give it a, like all the things I want to say as a, to tell you why you would want this, may be too obvious to too many people of what this is, but it's an important one. And if you're, uh, you like massonomics,

you like the community, you like the show, any of that stuff, do get signed up now because you'll be in, signed up in time. There will be a line in the sand if anyone's unfamiliar with the process. We get our big old stick line sand drawer out and we put a hard line in the sand and, you know, if you're signed up before it, you get in on it, signed up after you miss out. There has been, you know, some people lately that I can tell they're no longer supporting members

because their credit card number changed. Yeah. And we can't change it for you. So your membership has lapsed. So I checked to make sure that's not you and get signed back up because you would hate to miss out on this one. You would be. Would not be good. You'd be a big old doofus if you missed out on that. You would be mad at yourself if you missed out on that. If your credit card number changed and you didn't get signed back up, you would hate yourself for the rest of your life.

Yeah, can't be having that. Yeah, so get signed up. We'll talk. Well, maybe we'll give out some more better details on that as we get a little bit closer. But we do like to let those be kind of surprises. and we are going to have a lot of them to send out. That's going to be a project this time. It's always kind of is,

and the thing about that project, it just gets bigger every time, which is great, which is what we want. But there's a will, there's a way. We'll figure out a way to get it done. Do we want to talk about any of these things we got,

game, bear steel, toilet tracker, average game. I have a little average game ready for us if you're ready for that. All right. Should we, or are we going to do a certified training facility of the week? Are we going to skip that this week? Oh, I think we got to do it because we skipped one last week. And we also have to do a radar report.

Okay. Strap on it. We're only halfway done with this show, people. So what do we want to do first of those things? All right. We're going to do the average game here. Okay. That sounds like fun.

Okay. Hit us with some music. Get us in the game show mode. Yeah. Did you say a little game show music? Yeah. Yeah. That's obviously going to be this.

I don't know. I don't change my mind. This isn't classically what we'd use this for, but most people that don't listen to the pre-show, I don't get to hear this every time. Yeah. Okay. I don't hear that without thinking about the pre-show.

I know. That's all I think of. All I think of. If you want to hear that more, you could also become a supporting member. You get it on the pre-show where Tanner announces the kickoff of the show with that at full volume every week. And then I scream into the microphone each week.

Well, we can't give away too much. You've got to be a sporty member if you want to see what that's about. I'll just say the nanny anthem is involved. So keep that in mind. All right, Tanner, you ready for the second ever? Not issue, not episode. The second ever segment of how average is he? starring Tanner Baird.

So this isn't just like an average game. Like you're not saying like, no, it's not a great game. It's not a terrible game. It's just kind of like an average game. No, no, no, no.

The average is not in reference to the quality of the game. It's in reference to statistical averages is what we're talking here. Okay. Last time I believe we were talking diet. We were seeing how you stack up to the average American diet. And you were an outlier. You did not stack up very well. Except for.

number of times eating out. Yeah, actually, I've been thinking about that one a lot lately. Yeah. I actually eat out way more than I think I do. And what part of most people do more than they would think they do. I think they do. I think they do. Because part, yeah, especially when you, well, I'll just say,

what murders it for us is we damn near have something once a month, massanomics related. Well, yeah, that's actually, in the case of Phoenix, I'm like, oh, we were in Phoenix. We ate out 12 times in three days. Right, right. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, I end up eating out once or twice on the weekend because it's something to do with the family.

And then it just happens, oh, we also happened to live in a town where none of our parents lives. So if our parents are over in town, what do they want to do? They want to go out to eat. So that happens a lot. And then there's just always something coming up, kid related or we're going, like, I'm like, no, no, I eat out way more. I eat out like five or six times a week, I think is how it goes.

Is there a Texas roadhouse in Sioux Falls? There is right by the ball. Oh. Nice. Oh, let's change those things. I'd eat out all the time too. All right. But we are talking.

We're talking exercise and health habits this week. All right. Do you know anything about exercise and health? Well, exercise. I mean, are you even an enthusiast, really? Well, no, that's true. You're just kind of more of a sit-on-the-sid-sides kind of guy. Yeah, sit-on-my-ass sort of guy.

Okay. The home gym discord would say not enthusiast. Does not pass the enthusiast. No, you haven't received your pro card yet, so you're just a loser. Now, I call the home-jim discord. Unlike keeping. Unlike, yeah. Specimens over there, you are lacking.

Okay. All right, we're going to start with, some size stance here. We're going to try and get some sizing pin down. Is it going to be in stones? Average U.S. male weight. What is the average U.S. male weigh?

180. Is it way lower than it? Or is it like, okay, is it 200? I'm going to say split the difference. 190. You know, this number when I think about it, I can see how the number is the way it is. What skews my brain is when they say like 60%

of the population, is obese or something. And I'm like, that's kind of what I'm thinking. That's what I'm like, a bunch of fat people would have to bring the number up. But yeah. Then like also like the average person is always way smaller than what I can.

Well, that's part of it too is the height is, you know, but okay, the number is according to this. And I don't, I didn't go super deep into where all of these come from. But yeah,

what I reported here, the average US male weighs 1099 pounds. And I'm like, well, that actually kind of makes sense if you don't work out at all and you're not that tall. I mean, 200 pounds isn't looking the best on you. You know.

That's, I think I was in the right ballpark of thinking. You were, you have 180. I'm like, that's pretty fit when you're saying the average person's weight. Yeah, there's a lot of people are fat, right? But the other thing that tricks me is like how much smaller people generally are too. You know, that kind of throws me off. Yeah. Yeah.

So, 199. Tanner, you are, you are over the average here. Yes. By a decent amount. 248. I'm, I'm over the average as well. So I'm pulling that number up for the rest of people. You know, we're doing what we can to get that average to 200.

Right. Sitting at just $199 right now. We need to get to that. Right. Those are rookie numbers. I got to bump that up. All right. Average U.S. height or average male height.

What do we got? Is it like five, I think it's either 58 or 59. 5.9 is the number. Okay. So based off what we're reading there, If you want to make the typical AI, AI make an average American male, we're talking 5-9-200 pounds. Don't lift a damn thing. 5-9-200.

Yeah, so 5-9. That seems about right, I guess. Yeah, I think so. That seems right. What percentage of U.S. adults are overweight or obese? And here we have overweight or obese. You know what? I was just wondering about this the other day. I was wondering, has the OZempic and stuff like that actually started to make a dent in the numbers?

I think it has actually. I think it is. So widely used that it's actually bringing that number down. I think it is. But that's just so new, you know, like these studies, like all that stuff takes time to come around. So I don't think the numbers reflect that yet. I will, like, on related to this, I was literally just thinking that the other day. I'm like, I wonder if that's so widely like that it's actually.

making a difference in the general numbers. Jeff Nippard had a pretty in-depth video on peptides this week. And I actually watched a little bit of it. Actually, I watched almost all of it. And I thought it was pretty interesting. He actually classified, I'm not a peptide guy. Newsflash everyone. I don't know much about peptides.

I hate for this to be the way you find out. But he classified them into three categories. You have like your weight loss peptides, which is essentially what, you know, Wagovi and all those ones. So you have your weight loss ones, like your healing ones, and then your like anti-aging ones. And, you know, the ones that have the most science and proven results behind him are the weight loss ones. The other ones are. Right.

As far as the science is concerned, iffy at best on a lot of those. But I think it was in that video he mentioned, like, one of the other side effects of so many more people being on Ozempic now is that like it was reported or there was some reports or people were saying that this time was like the first time, you know, New York. years at the gym, like there wasn't a big surge because it's like in the past, if you were out of shape or overweight and you wanted to get in shape, you went to the gym on New Year's and that's when you started off. And I was like, I know, you just started a Olympic. I don't need to go in the gym now. Right, right, right. You know, which is kind of funny. It is. It is. So the percentage over half, I think. So 65%? Close. 72. Okay. That's a lot of people. Yeah. But technically, I think we both

fall in that category. I was going to say, I'm sure we do. Like, that's what kind of also skews it, too. Yep. Yep. Okay. We're going to talk training habits here. Lifting. All right. What percentage... Lifting and drinking is all I know. It is actually perfect. What percentage of adult males strength train at least twice per week? Well, everyone I know. A hundred percent of the adult males that I'm aware of. percentage at least strength train at least twice per week you know it's everyone that I know yeah it's funny because it's like that's kind of true actually yeah basically every adult male that I know talk to in a regular basis um just trying to think what the you know strength training has just become a lot more popular in general over the last 20 years so that helps it

Twice per week isn't that much. That's like even just going to your local fitness center a couple times per week. I'm just thinking of even like people around my office that I'm like, you're not a lifter, but you do do that. Like if a doctor asked you the question, you'd be like, I do go to the why. Yes, Doc.

Literally twice a week. I know what machines I can sit on my house on. I do the circuit. Yeah, I do the circuit thing twice a week. So I'm like, yeah, you do that. So what percentage can't be that high, though? Is it like 20?

25. is not a bad guess. The number I have here is 31%. Okay. That was a pretty good guess. Okay. So a third. About a third.

Yeah. And I think what keeps it even just that high is what I described. It's not us. It's the guy that goes to the Y and sits on the circuit strength machines twice a week. Yeah. Yeah. It just makes the rounds. You know, it does the thing.

Right. did surprise me a little bit though. Like my initial impression would have been still that that number is lower when 70 some percent of people are overweight or obese. Right. Also a lot of CrossFit and stuff that market is because the number of people that I run into even locally that are like, oh yeah, I go to, you know, the local name of the couple CrossFit gyms in town.

Like they aren't even CrossFit gyms anymore. But like just those gyms, I'm like, really, you go there? Yeah. Actually, that is a good point. I do forget about that side of it too. you know, there's a lot of those people that tell me that, that they go there. Yeah. Like, I never would have guessed you were into any fitness.

I'm not, I'm not even saying that as a shot as their appearance or something. Then you say, you're a lot stronger than you look. Yeah. I don't even mean it as that. I just like, I just assumed you did not do stuff like that. That wasn't an interest of yours at all. Right. Right.

So that probably helps quite a bit too. Okay. Slightly lessened to our wheelhouse here. What percentage? of adult males get enough aerobic exercise in a week. My first question, is it more or less than the weight train twice per week? Because there are a lot of runners out there. A lot of people run.

But what's the question, get enough? Yeah, and the moderate aerobic activity is defined as 150 to 300 minutes per week. And that would include things like walking, water aerobics, casual bike ride. It includes walking. Vigorous activity would be 75 to 150 minutes. So you're talking like one to two hours of hard activity or like three to four is three to five hours of very moderate activity. I just can't decide if there's more, you know, like a lot of people do just do cardio. Yeah.

It also includes things like swimming, playing basketball, playing games. things like that. Noon ball counts. What was that? Noon ball counts. Noon ball is absolutely that would fall into the vigorous category in this case. I don't know. I guess walking,

counting means something too because a lot of people walk. I would say, I don't know. I'm torn. I'm going to say it is higher, so I'm going to say it's 40%. The number is 47% get enough aerobic activity in a week. That number also surprised me a little bit because we're damn near 50-50 here.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. And I think thresholds are just low enough there. It must be. Actually, that probably is like the standard is just so low that. Because I think of,

when I think of someone getting 150 to 300 minutes of aerobic activity, I'm like, oh, that's a pretty active person. Right. But also, you could actually get that in a lot of jobs, just have that too, you know. Yeah. Or sedentary computer people.

Yeah. But yeah, a lot of jobs, you just get that naturally at your job. So I guess that does help with that part of it too. or in the case of maybe you work at a furniture store, that also takes care of the lifting part for you too. Well, yeah, you don't have to go to the gym.

It takes care of the strict training part. You move furniture for a living? Actually, I read this one wrong. It was what percent strength train or work at a furniture store at least twice for a week? Professional movers. In which case you don't have to go to the gym that day. Yep, 31% of the population.

Yep. Now it makes more sense. Okay. Okay, we only got two left here. roughly how many meaningful steps does an American adult get per day? I mean, does that just mean steps? Yeah, like actual steps, yeah. On average, an American adult per day, it's probably,

I'm just wondering if it's shockingly low or just on the low side of what I consider normal. That's what I'm trying to decide. So I'm going to say, I just think it's probably pretty low because some people probably don't make an effort to walk at all. So I'm going to say it's like $2,500. So this one will. is one of the hardest ones to actually find numbers on because they were all over the board. And it just kind of seemed like it depended on what they were citing.

A lot of things were saying like in the three to four, three to five thousand area. And then another terrible. Like if someone's getting 5,000, I'm like, well, that's not like a person that doesn't ever move. Yeah. Oh, you said it's not terrible. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. I agree. But then I saw like another thing. And it sounds like this one's debated a little more because it's like an older. an older stat or they said the average person was getting five to six five hundred a day. And I'm like, unless you have an active job or you're making the effort to walk. Like you don't accidentally get like 6,000 steps in a day.

No. No, most people don't like. I mean, if I didn't have, if I didn't take my dog walking, I could, I could live my whole life getting less than 2,000 steps a day. I was going to say I could accidentally get only 2,000 if I didn't, you know, like not often, but like on occasion,

you could have days like that. Those days in the winter when it's like negative 30 and you just actually just too unsafe to go outside. Yeah. I'll just look at my phone and I'm like, oh, I'm at 1,000 for the day and it's like bedtime. And like you just feel terrible at the end of the day because you haven't done anything, you know, but you're just kind of trapped. Okay. Final one here. Big recovery guys.

You know, what percentage of adult males sleep less than seven hours a night? everyone that I know that's what I was thinking less than seven on average per night adult males 65% actually no the number according to this is 30%

sleep less than seven hours per night I must be in my own bubble life on that yeah yeah if I could just get at least seven every night. I bet that's not bad. I know. I know. Or like just a quality six.

Yeah. You know, you throw a couple sick kids in the mix and just that whole thing. If I have a night where I get like eight hours of sleep, I wake up, I'm like, oh, yes. I have superpowers. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's good. Then people are doing pretty good on sleep, I guess. So that's the average. I think again, you and I probably don't fall into a ton of these here. Not really.

I'm surprised with the average step count is so high. That's good, though. Yeah, at least someone's taking it seriously. Yeah. All right, should we do a certified training facility of the week? Let's do it. You got anything that you've had your eye on over there? Oh, over on Jim Radar.

Yeah, Jimruder.com. I always. Why doesn't my thing say WWW? I mean, it's kind of a given at this point. So most browsers take that out. Like, it's just not there at all. Yeah.

I mean, a lot of times, if you click on the link, like double click on it. No, but then it just shows me the HTT. Oh. Still doesn't say WWW. It's also, I think. How do I even know if this is on the World Wide Web? Oh, true.

Nate, it also comes down to what he has, like, the default domain set as. And I think in this case, he does not have the WWW included in the default. domain. But the https colon slash or backslash is that's backslash right um that's forward slash that's forward. I don't really know I don't I think it's forward to be honest I'm gonna go it up into the right you know I'm gonna fully admit I don't know what the difference is I think that's a forward slash because it's going up into the right like to me backslash goes like backwards maybe I'm wrong

though that up into the right when you say it that way that makes sense to me yeah you know it's falling forward the right you know right yeah I'm wrong. Maybe it is backslash. I don't know. I like that way of, if it's not that, I like that way of remembering it. Now you got me very curious.

So is that, is that always the case that there's HETPS, colon, and then two forward slashes? Um, yeah, well, unless it's not secure,

then it'd just be HTTP. Oh. No ass. Yeah. That wasn't, uh, um, I mean,

Now it's basically a standard. You will get like a warning typically if you go to a website that doesn't have that now. But then is there always two of those forward slashes like that? Yeah, I think it has to have it. Yeah. If it's a website, as far as I know, it has to. Okay. Well, Jim Radar is totally a website.

Okay. Wait, am I supposed to pick out a gym? Oh, yeah. I was just talking about web links, hoping that you were picking out of gym. Oh, God, you had me way too distracted there. Okay. Um, certified status certified. And there are just some real home run gyms in here.

There's a lot of them to pick from too. Oh, I think I got a good one for us here. Okay, okay. Let me, uh, let me spool up my little system. What do we got? We are looking at a little place, called Big House Power. Oh.

You seen this? You heard about this? Oh, I know about Big House Power. It is now, if you're playing along at home and you refreshed, you can see that it is a certified training facility of the week. Oh, yeah. All right. Big House Power.

Tanner, why is this Jim noteworthy? Big House power is noteworthy because of who's running Big House power. He was running big house power. Big Joe. Yeah, Big Joe. Joe Ken. Big Joe Ken is a strength and conditioning coach working in his fifth decade in the industry. He's coached at the high school, college, professional, and private sectors.

He's worked with from 10-year-olds to all pros as well as, here we go, strongest man on earth and four-time world-strongest man, Brian Shaw. We got to meet him at Home GymCon this year. I mean, I had been following along with this stuff for years anyways, but we got to meet him in person, and he was a fun dude to hang out. We told him about Jim Radar, and he was super interested, and he was signed up like the next day. He was pumped on it.

So we are in North Carolina for this gym, and what I like about this, this says it's a garage gym, but man, it's a, this is like a guest house. It looks like a guest house. It absolutely does. We're going to get to that in a second. But he only has five, equipment pieces actually listed. They're all from dynamic fitness and strength.

So, and a Squamax MD actually also in there. Yeah. He has a lot of photos. He's got 32 photos of his gym. So we probably won't get to do all these in depth, but from the exterior, like you said, it does look like a guest house. I mean, it looks like it's about the size of a two-car garage if I had to guess, right? Does that seem about right? I think it is. And there's a dividing wall in the middle. Yeah, because you've got these like big glass doors on the front and on top. So it looks really cool from those glass doors. You know what I think those are is replacements from garage doors.

Yeah, yeah. Look like that. I'm pretty sure those are 10 foot wide, three panel. That would make sense. Doors, you know, like doesn't that look like those used to be garage doors right there? Yep, totally. And then you go inside and right off the bat. I mean, this thing is kind of loaded with equipment.

I love this back wall. I don't even know if this is spray painted on here, if that's a print. I'm not sure, say big house power. Is that what it says? Yeah. Yeah. Like it just looks really, really cool, that back wall all on there. He's got, boy.

The lifting platform is like even with the rest of the flooring. You know, he's got his big rock on a lifting platform. And then that is even with like the rolled flooring that's in there, which is pretty sweet. Yep. He's got this big commercial. Marshall grade rack in the back. I mean, he's got dump, are those York roundheads in there?

Yeah, he's got York roundheads. You think he's got either fatbells or center mask bells. Yeah. And then lots of different bar storage. I can see some different kettlebells back there. It looks like maybe some of those on it ones with the different primal heads on them.

He's got some calibrated Titan plates. right? I don't know. Yeah. The kilo calibrated Titan plates. The next photo backs it up a little bit. What's this machine in the foreground here, Tanner? Oh, it's a GHR.

Oh, yeah. With the big ball on it. I'm looking at photo number three. I can see the SquatMax MD. Some big Cerbera sandbags. Geez. Looks like a 400 pounder there, at least by that angle. Yeah.

What have we got? The Sybex leg extension. Leg extension. Yep. Another reverse hyper. What's this? What's that? Is that kind of like that Sorenex like back machine back there?

Do you see that one with the arm with the pad on it? Um, I don't know. Oh. Like the back attack or whatever one is. It's kind of like that, but I don't know if that's what it is or not. I'm not sure what that is. Got more plates. Lots of different, you know,

flay. Oh, we got a prone leg curl. Yep. too, some stones, a close-up of the platform with the big house power logo on it. I like that. Competitive athlete training, that is cool. And also, oh, the log collection. Got quite a few logs.

He's got several logs. A stack of plates. Oh, yeah, here's that machine again. It's like the inverse curl or back attack or something. Yeah, it's also, Kavon had one kind of like this, you know, Bell's a Still, remember that? Yeah, yeah. What do we got in a corner of this red thing?

What is this? That is a standing leg curl, isn't that? Isn't that a standing leg curl machine? Yeah, I think what's throwing me off. Is that the double leg standing leg curl? Yeah, I think what's throw me off is the stack is off to the side and there's nothing in front of you to grab onto it all. Isn't that what it is, though, or not?

I think it is. I don't know what else would be on that little lever arm. down like, you know, it looks like it should be touching your ankles. Like that seems like a couple of shot puts down there too. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's got, he's got the vert pole. Yeah. The real deal actually.

The vert pole. He's got the vert pole. Yeah. Oh, we don't see those every day unless you're at Massonomics gym. Barbell collection. Oh, some Reebok T.R lights on the wall. I like that. Yep.

A lot of clubs. A club collection. Bench, a couple benches. What do we got up here? More medicine balls, things like that. Yep. Band straps, barbells, collection of specialty bars.

What's this? Oh, what's this block? That's like a climber. Yeah. It wasn't Rogue Crusher, Big Steve talking about getting one of these kind of in his gym? I think so.

Is that like a Versa climber? Is that what that's called? Or is that something else? It seems like that's what it is, but I just don't know in much, about that piece of machinery. But like you see where you put your feet in your hands and you climb, right? Yeah.

I'd love to try one of those someday. See what that's like. Also takes up no footprint. No. Surprising more companies don't get into that because just because of that alone. We got a big old lap pull down here. Yep. Dynamic.

Yeah, that things beefy. Got a rain fridge. Talk about our kettlebells, dumbbells. Boy, have we hit the end of it here. Ooh, we got to. so. Let's what you got. A stair climber.

Nice one. Competition kettlebells. Yep. I think we did it all. Man. Okay. That is the big house power time. And what I'm wondering after checking out of those pictures is, do you think you

could get strong in big house power? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, we're getting hell of strong with Big Joe and Big House power. All right. Are we going to do a radar report this week? Yeah. We'll do a quick one because my card's going to run out of space. here in about five minutes.

Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention? I'm glad you did that. I almost jumped the gun. It would have been way out of my element there. You know, I was looking at radar. I was looking at Jim Radar, just the other day. I don't know if you've seen this site or not.

What do you mean every single day all of the time? No, it was just the other day. That was the first time I was looking at, just the other day. And so I go to the equipment page, and I sort by most owned. That gives you the most popular. their products in the entire website. And there's kind of this exclusive club developing that I want to call the 200 club. And those are pieces that exist in 200 gyms or more. And, you know,

I mean, we kind of are just talking about what's the most popular products in the gym. But I'm going to, for the sake of this, actually, we're going to have a video coming out about this very shortly here, but that video is recorded a bit ago and things have already changed since then. But for the sake of this gym equipment pieces that have 200 or more gyms in them and i mean the number one thing on the list is horse stall mats it's not really jim equipment so we're going to skip that there's some other massanomic stuff here but as far as straight up jim equipment goes the number one most own thing is the rogo how power bar at 264 gyms and it makes sense like everyone has that thing yeah but the number and i'm not going to go through all of these but i'll just do it quickly like you have the repins

the rogue rotating V grip, fat grips, if you want to count those as like Jim equipment. I mean, they are. But you don't have to go down very far. And surprisingly, the Voltra has now eclips the 200 gym mark. That's at 210. The barbell anchor at 208 and the Rogue Echo bike at 201. Ooh, the rep PR 5,000 is at 200.

And the rep Nighthawk is at 199, so it's not in the club. So it is a pretty exclusive group. products to cross the 200 equipment mark. Yeah. And I just, I just think it's interesting seeing what's in there. You know, it's,

there's only one thing on the entire website that's got over 300, and it happens to be horse stall mats, which has gotten 400, but, to go 200, worstall mats would likely be the first to 500. Oh, yeah, the rate,

it's going. Yes, absolutely. I just don't know how anything ever catches horse stall mats ever, but, looking at it, though, you know, you look at those products, a Rogo-Ohio Power Bar, repins,

the rotating V-grip, the Voltra, an Echo Bike. I mean, those are great products, right? You know, like, it's, there's a reason that they're in that many gyms, and it's because it could maybe make the argument on the Voltra. I mean, the Voltra is the most subjective one as, because I was going to say, these do all do a really good job of hitting the sweet spot of quality

and performance and value for what you get. You know, it's like, I don't think anyone's going to argue with you that the Ohio power bar is overpriced. Some people might say the weapons are overpriced, but honestly, if you look at it from a set of full dumbbells, like it's a very fair value. Like the rotating Vigrip is very fair for what it is. The Vulture is the one that some people would say it's overpriced,

but there's also people that have the vulture and be like, no, like this thing is totally fair for what you can do with it too. So same thing, the echo bike. You know, like people love that thing. And, you know, in the world of fan bikes like that, it's, I think, also still price pretty fairly in the scheme of things. Also, you can find those used all the time too. So the PR 5,000, you know, it's just a good, solid.

rack and I thought it was interesting the 200 club that is a that is a milestone on jim radar when something crosses 200 yep they're in the club so if you own a rep nighthawk they're at 199 go claim that damn thing bump them into the 200 club I want to see it happen 200 club also runners up to the 200 club uh the texas deadlift bars at 185 and rogue fitness monster bands are 183 stranko plates are at 179 so they're getting up there too close Yeah, there's a few that give it a little time. They will get there. But they don't let just anyone in that 200 club over there.

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