Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 57: Records Were Made To Be Broken
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We're good.
Tommy's good.
So good.
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All right, guys.
Welcome to Massanomics Podcast episode whatever the fuck this episode number is.
And what's going on this week?
We had some records broken,
some controversial lifts. All of these were things that we would have expected to see
out of the US Open and instead we're dealing with them a week later.
We got a week delay on it.
And if you're listening to us, none of these topics are relevant anymore because it's like
three weeks later, but there's a good chance maybe uh it's the first time you're hearing us talk about it so um what do we want to start with i suppose we might as
well jump right off the bat with the most sacred of all powerlifting records which we were just
talking about this last week yeah yeah um yuri belkin came out and broke ed cohen's deadlift record which is i believe 26 years old i think
is what i had heard yeah 26 years old same as also yuri balkan's age 901 pounds in the 220
pound weight class yep which is like that's okay that's a decent it's not bad yeah i mean if you're
a pussy but well and this is his this is his lift from the U.S. Open a week ago right here.
Oh, it is?
Oh, shit.
So I don't even have his...
Well, he didn't post it.
Do you know who posted it?
Mark Bell posted it, but a guy I follow, Five Rings Barbell,
is the original guy that posted it.
Number five?
Yeah.
So a little context on this.
Uri Belkin has become kind of the sumo deadlift savior of the world all of a sudden.
He's just insanely talented.
I think people saw that this attempt at the record was probably coming pretty soon.
It probably seemed kind of inevitable that at the rate he was going, it was going to happen.
Last week competing at the U.S. Open, I don't even know for sure what he pulled,
but the fact that he competed a week ago
and now again this week and breaks the record,
it's pretty crazy.
It's nuts.
I didn't know that ever happened.
And if you watch it here,
Tyler's got the video playing.
So it was,
what is the exact weight of this?
410 kilos,
which is like 1,000 pounds or something.
I mean, close.
I think he did like 906 or something.
So, I mean, it's not like he blew the record out of the water either.
It was just...
Yeah, 904, I think.
904, okay, yeah.
So, yeah, he beat it by about three pounds-ish.
Yep.
What makes this interesting, well, like we said is that yuri had competed a
week ago and i've i've never heard of people competing back-to-back weeks i didn't know that
was a thing anyone ever even would like attempt so the fact that he did that is pretty impressive
um but you know when you compare it to ed's record from 26 years ago, there are some differences in it.
Ed's record, I believe, was actually in the IPF, I think.
Yeah, it probably was.
And I'm not sure if it was called IPF at the time,
but I think it was in whatever the IPF is now.
Yeah, so for the people that want to get super technical
with the differences of who's better and what else goes with it um i think ed's was done well whatever that ipf federation was at the time
yeah so it was a two-hour weigh-in right it was on a stiff bar and i've also heard things like i
don't know if at the time like they did kind of like a rising bar thing even that's that's true
too just like what we did at the strongman for the deadlift that's how power lifting used to be okay which seems crazy to like to think of that now that you
or you know get involved in a few meets and get used to this call your weight wait your turn uh
the idea of a rising bar seems yeah so if and if you're as much better than everyone else he's
following as that cone was he would go and you would get three minutes. Yeah. And then you would go again, which would be fucking bananas.
Yeah.
As far as the weight cut with Belkin, I don't know if it matters because he walks around.
He's one guy who pretty much fills out his weight class.
Yeah, so that part probably isn't as much of an issue.
For him, 99% of the time now it would be a difference.
But in his case, it's actually not because he just walks around at that.
Yeah, the one difference, though, I still think that this maybe is on a deadlift bar it's so hard to
tell because a bar with 900 pounds on it it's always going to bend but it still seems a little
whippy when he's kind of taking it off the ground i'm guessing it is yeah and then and then there's
also the well belkin's pulling sumo thing well i think ed's was on semi-sumo semi-sumo so but props to ed
cohen i think he said the same thing with yuri as he did with that uh was it kaylor or kyler
woolham where he said uh he was like totally on board with this lifter yeah if this guy breaks it
he deserves it like you know he ed ed has to know that that record is not going to last forever so
i think he's just kind of being a man about it.
Which, that's pretty cool on his part,
because you can see a lot of the other way where it's like,
oh, this is especially...
It is for sure, yeah, because people on the internet love to hate on this stuff,
but the guy getting his records broken...
To be like, oh, this is cool.
Yeah.
And I think Ed does a good job.
I think Ed knows that he needs a more unified sport,
and the last thing you need is a bunch of dickheads
shitting on some new up-and-coming lifter
who's doing some pretty awesome shit on Ed's behalf.
Ed can probably take care of himself.
This guy that posted this, he said there,
by the way, I'm the only American that saw this live.
This guy's interesting to follow.
I'd never heard of this account.
Yeah, his name's uh
jance and i guess i don't know how you say his last name for sure but he was in russia and he's
uh he was touring like milanichev's gym like that bench press on the right that's where he's at
that's that's kind of a world famous yeah we call the wood paneling. Yeah, MAI gym.
But just this guy's interesting to follow.
He's kind of a technician with his lifting,
and he follows all these Russian guys.
But he said about Belkin, he went to that meet there where he was the only American there,
and he said it is absolutely insane the way that they treat him there.
Oh, that he's just like a superstar?
Yeah. Oh, really? He said that he's just like a superstar yeah like oh
really he said it is it's like he is a superstar there but that's what you hear is that a lot of
countries especially like european countries this is only what i've heard but that they treat
uh strength as a much more respected thing than most people in america do and then russia like
you just know russia is like a thing where strength is really really
highly regarded and people being able to do things with their body are appreciated whether that's
yeah sport of any kind or gymnastics or whatever it is they do which is evidenced by the state
sanction like steroid programs for their olympic athletes did you hear about all like how deep
that went there was like the kgb was like drilling
holes you know like replacing into the walls where the samples were at into the rooms overnight
during the olympics that were like in sochi and so the kgb was drilling holes in the wall
getting in there and taking the samples and like swapping them out with clean samples yeah like
tom cruise came in and it became the next Mission Impossible.
It was super gangster.
Do-do-do.
Do-do-do.
But, yeah, so that was basically the GOATS record fell,
and I think we could see that record turn over again in the next year.
Yeah, especially when you look at it.
One, I don't think Uri's done.
Yeah, he's 26
he has a good assuming no major injuries he has a good 10 years in him still and uh and there's and
there's the nice thing about that too is there's not just one person chasing that record right now
there's you know there's two people fighting which i think should drive that number up quite a bit
so do you guys know on ed having that deadlift record what his total was on that?
I don't know for sure.
Because I think Uri finished at like 22, 27 or something like that.
And I don't know where Ed sits. That would have been Ed's highest total, right?
I don't know.
See, I kind of forget the history with him.
That probably is his highest total in there.
I imagine it's close.
Because he also was like a thousand pound
squatter in there right and i think in the same meet yuri squatted like high sevens
so it just seems like by default ed would have the total there still let's see what i got
my busted ass basement wi-fi here this is what we the type of journalism we do here at massonomics
research on the fly.
Something else while he's looking that up, that MAI gym of Milanochev's.
They have, I don't know if it was a picture of it on here or someone else's that had it, but his competition plates he has all in a stack on a bar, kind of a vertical bar.
They're all in a stack all nicely organized and there's a lock
on top and there's a sign right next to him that says for competition lifts only so it's like he
was also talking about how serious they take it there where it's like in that gym you don't even
use those plates unless you're oh yeah jesus that is pretty cool yeah so we So we've got Ed Cohn's numbers.
His best total in a drug-tested international competition is 2,282 pounds in 100 kilos.
That was in 1994.
So that's in your weight class.
In 1994, was that...
Be that record?
Would that have been when he?
Well, 94 is.
So his single ply squat, 1019, bench, 584, deadlift, 901.
Of course, that totals up, but I don't think that's,
unless that's his best single ply total is 2504.
It's a little different. It's not always apples to apples because of the equipment is just like when that's single ply it's still not even anything
like what single ply that they use so i didn't really i didn't realize that actually that that
was a single ply squat that he did i think so okay but it's it's i mean that's all that there
was there wasn't it you know everyone was competing in the exact same thing.
There wasn't all these variations, and his single-ply version isn't what...
Yeah, isn't your suit that people throw onto the air.
I don't know the differences in those, but I've heard multiple people say that that suit he wears now is something that people would laugh at.
Oh, really?
You know, that it's just nothing compared to what a good single-ply suit is now.
And I've heard the same thing about the knee wraps,
is that then they were more than like an ace bandage that they were wrapping around their knee.
Right.
And then we have a little bit of arch controversy coming up here.
We had another record fall.
This one was, do you remember the record offhand, Tommy?
It was, yeah, it's this.
416-pound bench press.
By a 66-kilo lifter, which I don't even, Tanner, do you know what the 66-kilo,
that's got to be about 160-something-ish probably.
Yeah, 66 is, get the math.
145.
Okay, okay.
So 145 pound lifter.
I think he's a junior too.
Yeah.
I'd say there.
So he lifted.
Yeah, at the IPF World Classic Bench Championships this past weekend.
What was his weight again, did you say?
145.
At 145 pounds, benched 400 and what's that say 416
416 which is super heavy except um if you would like to watch this i highly recommend uh nine for
nine media on instagram has it in there i'm sure it's any number of other places but you can also
watch it if you just watch this podcast on youtube because i'll
have the camera right up to it tanner's telling me that these don't totally no that works it works
okay we'll do that it works well does do you want to narrate this tanner yeah so so here here's what
we're gonna do oh yeah for for our uh for our for audio only um audience Okay, so the smaller than average guy is walking up.
He kind of looks like a 15-year-old boy.
He lays flat on the bench, which coincidentally is the most arch that I can possibly get.
He's getting probably close to as wide as possible grip.
I would assume his index finger is on the ring.
And then he just did something I can't explain.
Like the exorcist.
fingers on the ring and then he just did something i can't explain like the exorcist and the lift starts it goes down maybe four inches maybe five maybe four yeah four down and four up
and and it's a and it's a lift always and this is the um this is all within the rules in the sport
of power lifting uh it even ipf is even a little more strict than some other federations and that
you need to keep your heels down um but the guidelines being you need to keep your head on
the bench shoulders on the bench butt on the bench and heels on the ground and you can't move any of
them either an index finger on the ring and the widest you could be is index finger on the rings
for a very for a very small guy is really wide like look at the angle
of his arms because that's when they're straight they're at about a 45 degree probably more even
that's literally like yeah if because my my wingspan is like six foot eight and my fingers
are on the rings that's where i set up at yeah um this would be like for you to have that angle of
the your arms you'd probably have to be holding onto the end of the butt.
This would be a snatch grip bench press for me, for sure.
So this brings up some really interesting things.
You know, we have never talked much about the, or I don't really know your guys' opinions completely on how you feel about arch and benching.
And, you know, right off the bat, people that don't know anything about powerlifting will say, well, a lot of times you'll see videos of people, oh, they got an arch in their back.
They're going to hurt their back. What are they thinking? And
I think it's pretty well documented our research at this point that having some arch in your back
is not only good for your lifting, but it's also safer too. I think, I think it puts you in a
better anatomical position or however you say that. So that's kind of the first step to it.
But since this is powerlifting and it is a sport,
people will do whatever they can to manipulate
or play within the rules to their advantage.
And in the case of this, you have a fairly short light lifter
that is maxing out everything they can to play with distances here.
So how do you guys feel about this?
Well, offhand, first, it looks bad from an as an outsider
yes right for sure you look at it and you're like that's not bench pressing i go to the gym it
doesn't and you're also like i know that he can't lay flat and do that but it's not fucking cheating
right it's not against the rules and i actually, Jonah Leo, World Bench Press Champion,
friend of the podcast, even commented, I think,
on one of the things on Facebook here this week.
He said, it's no more cheating than calling a 6'10 basketball player a cheater
just because he's tall.
And that's the truth.
A 6'11 basketball player with stupid long arms is closer to the rim.
It's going to be easy for him to put the bucket in the hole.
And this kid's got a way that's easier for him to get that weight to his chest and back up,
and that's just fine.
So I would say from within the sport, there's nothing wrong with it.
It's probably not like a super awesome representation, but it is within the rules.
It's probably not like a super awesome representation, but it is within the rules. And I don't, I also don't know that there's a way you could, how would you engineer that
out of the sport?
And that's what I've, I've heard is that when I ran across this, uh, I first saw it on Instagram
and then I actually saw it pop up again on Reddit.
And a lot of people had different ideas and a lot of the ideas were from people that are
outside the sport.
And so they, the ideas were from people that are outside the sport and so they the ideas
quickly fall apart like one is getting people's elbows to to break parallel kind of like squat
it's like well yeah but anyone with a belly like that that doesn't happen like there there are
actual limitations that people cannot do that anymore um i heard things that would just be so
hard to judge oh i know squatting is bad enough i'd hate to have another event turn into that yeah and
people had a bunch of rules or like i heard things like people saying you have to like
measure the angle that people have their back but at the same time it's like the i don't know how
you can how can you enforce that and expect to ever get a competition done at any time and so
this is how the rules are right now um some people even suggested like this is why the bench press has to go
because of stuff like this.
But what are you – yeah, that doesn't happen.
First, nobody asks how much do you deadlift.
There's a reason the average person asks how much you bench.
And so the bench is like the thing that people know.
But, yeah, I agree.
It's just a thing that's going to be there.
And he's young and he'll probably get stronger and be able to put up some even bigger numbers.
And so that's the other thing is I guess I've never really just tried unracking the weight.
I don't know if I could unrack and just hold it like an extra 50 pounds over my one rep max.
And so you can't deny the fact that the kid's strong because if he wasn't strong,
he wouldn't even be holding 419 above him steady and not shaking.
So from that fact, it's impressive. if he wasn't strong he wouldn't even be holding 419 above him steady and not shaking right so
from from that fact it's impressive and i would also imagine that with a flat back he could
probably bench a decent amount still i mean at least in relation to his weight yeah i'm sure
i would also say though that with a flat back he would definitely be benching um
easily five times the amount of movement.
Oh, yeah.
Like if he benched right here from where he is,
that would be, and that legitimately is just the best arch
that I could get is mostly flat.
Like that's five times.
I mean, that's literally four or five times the distance traveled.
Yeah.
You know, than what he gets with his arch.
But it is what it is.
I mean, it's not cheating. The sport is to get the weight to your chest and up within the rules and he he
does it well enough um i'm assuming the only most of the people that are would be upset about it
are people who um are getting out benched by 140 pounds fucking teenager you know what i mean that's
uh-huh when you look at what what the really is, the sport is who can move a squat, move the heaviest squat, who can move the heaviest bench press, and who can move the heaviest deadlift.
It's not who can make it the most challenging for themselves and still do it.
That's the whole point of the sport.
You don't get more points by fucking doing this close grip.
And just some of those people, they probably arch a little bit.
So are you like, well, a little bit's okay. You they probably arch a little bit so are you like well a little
bit's okay you know you can do it a little bit yeah i can't do that much so it's cheating well
that that's what i was gonna say is that i don't think there's anyone out there that's a competitive
power lifter that can do what he's doing and chooses not to yeah because like i'm gonna i'm
gonna preserve the integrity of the sport exactly Exactly. Because if you could. And not use my amazing leverages.
If I could do that, I would definitely do that.
I could bench a lot if I could do that.
I don't doubt.
It's the same thing with deadlift.
People do sumo and people like to complain it's cheating.
It's like, you can pull sumo too, but the only reason you don't is because you can't pull as much that way.
And sumo is the same thing.
It's cutting the range of motion.
But anytime you're cutting the range of motion, there's some other things.
There's other tradeoffs with it.
It's really hard to take from the floor.
I think my shoulders would shoot out of my body if I tried to hold a weight that wide.
It's not something my body could do.
No, that's what I agree.
You have to work on that a long time to be able to be strong enough to do it that way, too. Yeah. That would be, I don't, that, you have to work on that a long time to be able to be
strong enough to do it that way too.
Yeah.
So we, and then now we have another one here.
And so this one, you guys have not seen this yet.
Yeah.
This is.
This isn't new news.
This is from 2014.
Just when I ran across this, the bench that this kid had performed, someone had thrown
this out as an example of the most extreme arch they had ever seen or, or of range of motion and so i'm curious to hear what you guys think of this when
i was this is ipf we're gonna go this is a bench press from 2014 we're going straight up full
screen i think it said like chow chu and i believe they said china is where she's from so this is a
single plot this is uh it looks like single play uh i suppose this is close enough for the camera here, Tanner.
Probably.
Yeah, that should work.
All right.
All right.
I'll narrate this.
She's coaching the bench.
She's got a sweet bowl cut.
Yep.
She has her bench shirt on.
She's sitting on the bench now.
She's getting into position, taking the extremely wide grip.
I would probably say the widest legal grip allowed.
And the liftoff is about to start here's the angle and whoa whoa start one inch two inches press no done so no way and that's a 400 pound bench press
so no way and that's a 400 pound bench press yeah the uh that's that's ridiculous but also the we've talked about this before i'd be curious to talk to jonah more about this because the
ipf single ply bench presses just in general the lockout is so much more difficult to know
to like there's less of a defined lockout there isn't a
raw bench press even this one it's a very odd even the start it almost like it's so weird it almost
it almost drops before she starts yeah and we're probably the worst people to be judging a single
ply bench because one we've never done it and two we're pretty stupid that should maybe be point a yeah yeah and then yeah we don't see much of it and
we've never done it b and c there but that is bananas props to her fucking oh but then the
lockout is so like oh i guess it's kind of done i guess that's where you go and then and then it's
crazy because when they lift it and you know anytime they lift it there's always going to be
some additional height.
But the height goes a lot more as soon as they give the rat command there.
It's funny.
When she's laying here, it looks like it's four feet from her chest.
And then the next angle.
And then it's like she just pulls the shoulders all the way down.
And it is just fucking right there.
That doesn't make any sense, really.
But now watch.
What was up?
I think everyone watching is kind of like,
what did she do?
Everyone's confused.
This is the one I heard the announcer also seemed very confused
in the audio part of it.
But
yeah, it's just
maybe there's some experts or single-ply
people out there that could
give us some input on that and what we're missing.
But that one is like legit.
Jonah, if you're listening, we need you to fill us in on the lockout with that.
And I'd like to hear Jonah's opinion on that bench press right there.
Specifically.
Is that cool?
Is that good?
I do believe that he will.
I mean, he's right. It's within the rules of the yeah sport i don't think there's anything wrong with it um i did find this this is a funny article that this reminded me of i don't know if you guys
have read this oh i've seen this is a satire website that's kind of a crossfit powerlifting
type thing but it's called the overheard press.com and they have some pretty
funny shit but this one was powerlifting judges were unsure if the lifter squatted
and it says uh at recent random powerlifting federation meet was delayed for 90 minutes
when officials were forced to halt the proceedings to determine if bubba banks had squatted
reviewing the video most of the action was obscured by head spotters equipment and a
videographer's thumb the judges and commissioner tried to determine what happened video revealed
that he indeed addressed and unracked an 800 pound bar but provided little clarity on whether any
lifting had actually occurred after standing apparently motionless for a period of 23 seconds
he re-racked the bar and let out a mighty roar triumphantly throwing his arms as close to eye
level as a squat suit and flexibility would allow.
Twelve of the 45 people in attendance joined him in celebrating the new record.
One judge immediately gave the lift a white light.
The other two looked very perplexed.
And then one spectator, the lifter's brother-in-law, shouted,
that was ass to grass, baby, ass to grass.
He could be seen turning to face the camera and screaming,
I buried that shit, while gesturing at his crotch repeatedly
before passing out for five minutes.
During the review, first judge used two straws, a pencil, a cookie,
and a coffee mug to illustrate the exact depth of the squat,
but the anatomical diagram failed to convince second judge Thomas Taylor,
who said he didn't see even the first appearance of hip flexion.
Breaking the deadlock, the third judge carefully reviewed the relationship
between the mug representing the knee and the cookie representing the hip,
stating that his effort was the deepest squat I've ever seen at an RPF meet.
It was good enough for Commissioner Williams,
who allowed that he had indeed broken yet another squat record.
And what else do we have?
He then ate the cookie from the diagram to ensure that the heated discussion
hadn't caused him to accidentally drop out of the super heavyweight class.
So for people who didn't catch that,
that this is basically like the onion.
Yes.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
That's not real,
but that's kind of,
that's kind of what that,
uh,
that,
that last bench that we saw looks like where you're like,
did the weight move?
Did anyone do anything?
Did anything happen?
And there's white lights and people cheering.
Um,
yeah, I thought that was kind of funny.
Yeah.
So with the bench press too, there is kind of an interesting factor with this.
And we were kind of talking about this, I think, at the gym a while ago,
is that one way to – or I've heard people mention that in powerlifting,
it's not so much weight classes as things can tend to be height classes.
And I think once you get to, you know,
there's always the outliers at the, at the lower levels and things, but once you get to that elite
level, I think people kind of fall into certain weight limits. Like you're probably not going to
have a five, six super heavyweight champion in the IPF. Right. They're probably going to be a
little taller than that. And at the same time, you're never going to have a six foot, 183 pound champion. And even 205, you're probably pretty lean at that to make something like that happen. I always thought
Lane Norton was really tall and lean for 205. And then we saw him in person at the Arnold and he was,
he was much shorter than I would have ever pegged him to be. Um, so with that weight thing,
there's also the, the kind of way that the lifter's body scales.
And that kind of falls into this bench thing is that when you're 145 pounds and 5'5", or however tall that guy was, you can go super wide and cut out a ton of range of motion.
But when you're Tyler's size, you don't have that extra bar.
They don't bring out a longer barbell. You don't have as much to wear. You don't have, I would say, you know, on that guy,
the bench pad was probably close to the size of his back.
Tyler, I would guess the bench pad on you is maybe close to a third, if even.
So that is kind of interesting that the equipment you're using
doesn't quite scale with the lifter.
Right.
And that kind of brings up a whole another you know
thing with it but it's an interesting thing to think about yeah yeah like i i have a hard time
benching just in general i mean it's pretty obvious longer arms are probably put you at a
bit of a disadvantage um with benching i for real though just cannot get into a good position like
i can't arch at all i can't seem to to get my feet wide on the fucking bench at all.
Well, it's the same thing too, though,
is that I don't think a lot of people realize this,
is when you're taller, you are sitting on a lower bench
that you have to tuck your legs behind you,
whereas those shorter people have a much higher area
to tuck their legs behind them.
When you're tall, you have to really try and jam your legs under you there's tyler i think you have a lot of leg compared to the average person at
least compared to that 145 pound young man we just saw definitely and that that large korean woman
who lifted earlier benched earlier uh but you know even with like with olympic lifting um and this is
probably like my final take i guess i know we've already rehashed it up.
My final take probably on the arch thing with the bench is that with the Olympic lifts, mobility is absolutely critical.
If you don't have the proper quality fucking hip, ankle, thoracic, shoulder mobility, you're not going to be able to snatch heavy, catch in the bottom.
You know what I mean?
A lot of those things aren't going to happen and there's no reason that that can't be the case with a lift like the bench um that young man just has a fuck ton of mobility in his spine i mean he
can really really arch like crazy and it just puts him ahead of the game it is a piece of the puzzle
to a big bench and and maybe he's using that one piece
to get him a little further than most people can get it.
But props to him.
But yeah, I would like to be shorter,
but I certainly wouldn't want to lose my body weight
when it comes to benching.
Like I'd like to be 400 pounds
if it came to just having a big bench.
Just bench wrenching, yeah.
And I guess that's probably right around the corner.
Well, next step after 300 is 400.
Yeah, yeah.
It's one unit of memory.
Because if there's one thing with lifting,
it always goes in 100-pound increments.
Yeah.
Body weight, PRs, everything, you're always on to the next 100.
Yeah, on a PR, there's really no point in using anything less than plates.
Yeah, definitely. If it's not not gonna be a whole plate more it's really actually you know about that tommy we were looking at the pr board the other day oh you know i actually have a question
about okay don't let me forget okay you go on with your thing uh we noticed that you had a
was it a squat was it your squat record or your gym squat pr this is in the gym uh-huh was in a there was a
single pound increment so this is this is my question you want to explain i was actually
going to ask this a long time ago and i forgot is the pr board all-time prs oh yeah shane asked
me about this and i i didn't know and i i kind of felt like well if anything competing under the
strict standards of the ipf that that should be allowed
as being better than a gym lift even but i didn't know because when i first put it up there uh
lawrence was like you did that in the gym i said no why it was well those are gym prs and i said
i wasn't aware of that and not that i've competed since because before that all of my prs were
were gym prs yeah that just just coincidentally, if nothing else.
And then I started thinking about it.
I'm like, Tanner doesn't have 700 pounds written there.
But I'm like, maybe he's not doing that because he didn't do it in a powerlifting competition.
And I think Ryan changed his.
So I didn't know what the rules are.
What are the rules, Tanner?
My question was not whether or not you wrote a gym PR that wasn't a gym PR.
I tried to do the math in my head how you got to 501.
That was the squat though, wasn't it?
Or was it 500 even?
Oh, no.
Yeah.
But you were saying in the gym with our like.
Yeah, I was like.
Oh, no, no.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So I wrote my top.
But we have those incremental plates.
Well, that's why I was like fucking Tommy threw on a pound.
And he didn't throw on a pound like and you didn't throw
on a pound you threw a half but what i could have done i could have gone to 490 well i could have
gone to 490 and then use the collars which are 11 pounds that's that's actually what me and uh
and big yuri that's what we thought maybe it happened because like he does use those collars
on everything so his his things all are like a one-pound.
That was like what we thought.
We were like, all right, so that's how Tommy did it in the gym.
Because otherwise, if Tommy's PRing with fractional plates, fuck Tommy.
I wouldn't take the time to hunt those things down to have a one-pound chip on anything.
So back to the deal.
What is the rule 10 are
those gym prs or do we go with as long as it's judged yeah i don't think that i never i don't
think there ever was a rule so that's probably the that's what i didn't know i just thought it
was a pr but i and i didn't even know it was a thing but like i found out that everyone apparently
does have their own personal rule of what they think i guess see i just assumed
pr board is prs because i didn't even notice that that like you and you and ryan and because ryan
put his deadlift up there and i hadn't noticed because shane or someone in the gym asked me
oh why don't why didn't why don't you have your 700 pound deadlift up there and i said well i
didn't i didn't do that at the gym i only put my gym things up there. And then Ryan was there and he was like, well, I put my deadlift up there and I said, Oh, I don't. Okay. That's why I don't care.
Yeah. You know, but my, what my response to Shane was why I do that is because this way in my head,
I can have two things. Like it's so rare to be able to break anything that if I can, at least
if I can make more of those things, like mentally, it's an advantage to be able to be like, well, I broke my gym PR.
Like, cause if I put, if I put 700 on the board, I have to deadlift more than 700 pounds in order to feel like I accomplished, accomplished, uh, uh, because all of my, all of my PRS are in competition, you know, because all of my all of my prs are in competition you know like
all of my so what do you have on there for your bench pr uh on there i have 435 and i did 440 in
competition or 441 whatever it is and squat see that's another thing i have 552 on the board i did that in the gym but see i've competed in in sleeves also
so i've squatted 584 and in wraps and 546 in sleeves and competition and 552 in sleeves in
the gym but i just i haven't before used any of my wraps number yeah numbers i've just always
stuck with my sleeves numbers for the board.
Mainly because you don't lift wraps that – I mean, it's not something you personally train a lot of.
Like no one in the gym does.
Right.
Like that's like just to be – for comparison's sake across the norm of a – but yeah, I think you could do either one.
Yeah.
I think – and my personal opinion on it was not to like diss anyone at the gym, but i would think that if some of the lifts were to go
to a competition they some people's prs they wouldn't have passed right and i mean i can tell
you everyone's bench pr on there is not really a pause pr right maybe a one or two people in the
gym put their prs their pause but everyone's pr is touch and go yeah for bench and then deadlift i
think a lot of the it's safe to say a lot of the deadlifts are maybe hitched a little bit they're
on a deadlift bar so maybe that does and doesn't matter to some people yeah that's why
i didn't put mine from the strongman competition on there oh my because mainly because it was a
triple pause reverse reverse i think it's just but i think the final rule it's every person is
allowed to use it however they want to the idea is that it's giving
people something to write down to write down some it's fun you know it's something and something to
shoot for to for self-improvement now do we have to have validation does it do we have to have a
witness oh see that's also a good question i i kind of want to come in and like fire some shots
see i put like a 900 pound deadlift on. I think we've talked about this before, and especially nowadays with lifting,
if you're going to say you had a PR, there's no excuse to not have a camera on.
And see, that's my rule of thumb.
As to whether or not you should put it on the board, the answer is,
would you feel comfortable whether you did or didn't have a video,
but preferably if you did have the video.
If you did have the video, are you comfortable putting that on the internet and saying look at my pr look what i did and if you're comfortable
saying that then it should go on the board yeah but if you would put that up and be like oh people
are gonna make fun of me for this then maybe don't write that then don't put it down yeah yeah
because it's not a pr like if even you yourself don't think it was good enough right that's that
so that's that's the easiest catch-all
measuring stick for that is like if what if what if your phone is plugged into the radio
and larry's spotting you and no one else's gym does that still count there's tripods i mean is
larry trustworthy enough as a witness oh yeah and even if we can put it on larry right it's
certainly the honor system anyways that
uh but i like everyone has to live with themselves at the end of the day if they're the guy that
just completely made up a number you know so my 900 pound deadlift is probably gonna raise some
eyebrows well that's a thing with uh when you lift with a gym the size of ours everyone knows
every lifter and you basically can't lie about anything because everyone sees you lift with with a gym the size of ours everyone knows every lifter and you basically can't lie
about anything because everyone sees you lift all the time they're like dude you can't bench 600
pounds like i just saw you do 315 for a double and it was hard almost fucking ate it so that's
uh making things which is more common with less experienced people that lift or maybe younger
people but that's always such a bad path to go down because then you can never,
Oh,
you start lying to yourself.
Yeah.
You're setting,
you're making your own reality that isn't doable at that point.
Right.
So it's,
it's your safest bet is to never do that ever.
Yeah.
Because otherwise it just makes your,
and it's,
you start chasing numbers that don't exist,
which is even more frustrating.
I think.
Right.
See, so I've, I've, I've PR'd squat at, and I've PR'd bench at the gym a couple of times.
But I've never even attempted heavy single deadlifts at the gym, just because I don't particularly enjoy them.
And I like to have fun at the gym.
So mine is just going to be blank until I decide to put a number, until I decide to tackle it someday.
That's my biggest thing, though.
I have those numbers there so I can now...
If I was you, I would put,
only because we all saw a video that it was clean,
I would put your 700 on the board,
just because it's legit.
But I like the fact that I could go do 685...
And replace it.
I'd be like, all right,
I just did something that I haven't done before.
So now is this the other way where you're lying to yourself, where you're saying you
have PRs that you've technically...
I would rather do it that way.
It's like, oh, because now you post a video on Instagram, 685 pound deadlift, PR.
Jim.
Oh, Jim PR.
Okay, true, true, true.
But then don't you think it's a real slippery slope to this awful can of worms where you're like,
all right, well, this is my pause for a triple with bands on a trampoline PR.
Do you have a strongman competition PR and a powerlifting meet PR?
You probably should because those are very different.
The straps, the bar possibly, or possibly the same but straps yep did you
strap up no i didn't you didn't either i that messes up you put these two straps on the bar
my body i was luckily i was born with two a set of built-in straps
but quite honestly on that like that strap thing for singles i never i still can't deadlift enough
that that's ever
an issue like the time i would i want to wear straps is if i'm going to do like a max out set
of six or more yeah like i've i've never had grip trouble on singles right and it's because i don't
i can't tell that very heavy so it doesn't really matter when they have really big hands
like i could probably with an axle reverse grip pull like hang on to what i
can deadlift yeah right right without straps but right um i just can't deadlift for the shit um
all right so going forward i am using the pr there to get this out there i am treating the
pr board as tommy's all-time prs yeah because it is my constant reminder of where i'm at and where
i need to be.
And you're also not bouncing around from thing to thing.
And we're talking different, because here's the other one.
People before, when I, this was a long time, well, last fall I had done like 495, but I felt like Ryan might've touched me.
Like it wasn't a completely clean lift.
And so I wrote 485 on there, like 10 pounds below, because I did get 10 pounds early,
lower clean.
People are like, why didn't you put 495 when you did that and i'm like that one wasn't even technically a clean lift and then now i had
one that was a clean lift and then people were giving me crap because i was putting that one on
no so yeah we weren't giving you i wasn't i wasn't questioning you about it being in the gym in the
in the gym or in competition i was questioning the one the one yeah it's like a month why because i
think i don't even know what i wrote for my, oh yeah, well actually my deadlift
ended up being 545, so that one just seems completely believable.
Oh yeah.
You wouldn't raise any flags there.
But another thing people do with the PR board, which is also acceptable, is it doesn't have
to be singles.
Yeah.
A lot of people put.
I like to put sets on because sets can get hard to remember what you did when it was
like five sets of five, five sets of three, when and what you did when it was like five sets of five five sets of three
when and where you did that really like that that's probably the more helpful one what what
i would say i don't like if people do with the pr board is use it for obscure other lifts
like we're like consecutive unbroken pull-ups right like i don't want x amount of body weight
like i don't granted X amount of body weight.
Like I don't, granted there are a lot of other lifts other than the three that are judged in
a power lift to meet.
But though that is what I want that board to be for is for those lifts.
Oh,
because I mean we could,
we could make it a list on and on of pull-ups,
snatch,
hang clean,
max reps with 55 pound dumbbells,
overhead press. Yeah. Max, just max-pound dumbbells. Overhead press.
Just max reps, 225 for bench.
You could make an endless list of things.
Unbroken jumping jacks.
We put the three out there.
You don't get to pick what three you want now.
If you want that, you can go somewhere else.
That's right.
I have thought of turning the PR board before.
Putting the names on top and the three lifts down.
So it would be longer.
And not so awful to write.
For those bottom 10 people.
But then it would just have to kind of be like right in the middle of the wall.
For a really long ways.
Yeah.
Right.
And some dickhead rubs their wet, greasy shoulder on it.
Ruins it for everyone.
Yeah. That would it for everyone.
Yeah, that would be a problem.
I do also like to see other people.
Just think another thing about that PR board.
I enjoy other people's numbers moving up. Oh, yeah, it's awesome.
I love seeing that.
That's a big motivator for me.
Yeah.
And it's like, well, geez, everyone else is doing so good.
I probably shouldn't be a little bitch. Yeah. Okay, so now that we're talking about the pr board i thought this was
really interesting too and it would actually we should probably i just thought of this
almost get in the habit of like tracking some of the numbers on there just to track like the
overall gym progress like you could probably make a pretty sweet spreadsheet of that yeah because
from day one loves spreadsheets yeah like like day one today now whatever that you know
a year and a half into the gym whatever the the overall progress because we were i think we were
talking about it one day like when the gym kind of started or when we all kind of started this
whole thing the number of people pulling 500 was not very many at all. Right. And now I think I counted on Friday like 14 or 15 people over 500-pound deadlifts.
Right.
That's a big jump.
And we now have...
A lot of over 300-pound bench pressers.
A lot of over 300-pound bench pressers.
We have a lot of people closing in
on that 500-pound squat mark.
Yeah.
So it's really interesting from a data perspective
to see where these people are...
Like across all sizes, you know.
People are kind of collecting at these same sort of spots.
And together, people are still moving through those same spots, too.
You're not really seeing many plateaus from a lot of people.
I would then like to see us document the body weight then as we do that.
Yeah.
That would also be a thing, too.
Because we've got some guys that have put on some weight.
That is true.
That is another part of it.
What was it?
Big Ethan now is like, he's up like 30 or 35 pounds from what he was a year and a half ago, something like that.
Yeah, Big Ethan had basically never lifted before when he joined the gym.
And when he joined, he's very skinny.
Like skinny to where you would be certain that he was
just going to be like a genetically skinny person forever yeah like a rail like oh i guess you're
just that guy and well like like anyone else on the internet that says they can't gain weight he
would fit that he would fit that bill he would have fit the body type where people would have
thought yeah i just can't like were you just a kind of average, tallish person and just skinny? Yeah.
But Ethan's fucking jacked now. That's, like, really fucking big.
Ethan is very, and rigged.
You know, and what, I think he weighs 205 or 210 or something like that now.
And he can bench, like, 285 pounds.
Yeah.
And this is someone that couldn't bench more than 135.
Yeah.
Like, a year ago.
Or, you know, could bench, yeah.
Basically.
Right.
So that's, and he can squat, I don know i think like 400 pounds say he's right in that 400 area and you know he
probably could squat 185 pounds i don't know if he could squat that way yeah right and and now
he can deadlift over 450 pounds you know so that's pretty cool to see that kind of progress progress
you know tommy and i were talking last night too about how Tommy said when you were what,
weighed like 165 pounds or something like that, 170 pounds, you were like,
if I gained –
The idea of weighing 195.
If I got to 195, I'd be just too big.
I would be obese.
That would be disgusting.
And now it's the idea of me weighing 195.
I'm like, I might as well tell my girlfriend that she has a girlfriend.
That's how I feel.
Like, oh, you don't get a boyfriend anymore.
So it's just weird how people,
because I think we were talking about how people, like,
tie their identity to their body weight.
And, like, skinny guys, like, tend to think that
the minute they start gaining muscle or any weight,
that, like, whoa, I got to watch my gut now. It's like, Whoa, I gotta, I gotta watch my gut.
Now it's like, well, no, you're just not used. Like you just don't see like every in your stomach.
Yeah. Veins in your, like you look like a normal person now. Like you don't look like you have
something. Also your arms and shoulders are way bigger. And if you'll go a little bit further,
you'll end up looking like you lift, which is the point. Yeah. And I don't want to lift to not look like you lift.
Then you're fucking up.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember when I was at the time,
I probably weighed like one 80,
one 85 and reading,
I think it was a couple of summers ago when was it the dark night rises,
the,
whatever one that had Bane in it and talking about how Tom Hardy was like
two 20 and Tom Hardy can't be very tall.
Cause at two 20, he's really, really short and every actor is really short. in it and talking about how Tom Hardy was like 220 and Tom Hardy can't be very tall because at
220 he's he's really really short and every actor is really short so I'm just gonna assume he's like
five six or something and he was 220 and he was jacked like he was ripped in that and I remember
thinking like god if I weighed 220 I would be the biggest man and it's like now I just kind of walk
around at 220 and I just feel like a normal dude still.
So it is crazy how your body adjusts to like your mental perception of what you are and what's okay. And like what's normal or what's heavy and what's light.
Yeah, because I went from like really, really fat to then I lost weight and then I've been trying to like just get muscle.
So then the last like three or probably almost four weeks now, I've been like eating an absolutely obscene amount of food to try to just get bigger.
And I've cut out some like probably like 40 or 50% of my like cardio activity out and replace it with more strength work just to try to bulk up for a while.
And it's worked.
I've put on probably like 14 or 15 pounds in that time but i'm like now
i'm looking at the scale i'm like fuck like like am i fat well i'm like i'm like 310 again yeah
what number does the diabetes come in well so so i i'm looking at i'm like well okay so my plan is
to do this and get bigger and then obviously turn it around and lean back and hopefully retain some
sort of strength yeah but like i'm at 310 and i got there pretty fucking fast so i'm a little bit concerned like pull back
the reins like how quickly am i gonna get to so when like can i handle see at 325 and going
just hang on about about two more weeks before we turn it around like like i don't know that i want to like even if it was
super jacked that like 325 is uh probably like a very cool weight that i want to weigh but we'll
see yeah and i'm definitely not like tipping the scales in any way but i found like adding the body
weight isn't the uncomfortable part it's the body weight and then going back into your regular clothes is what
makes things uncomfortable.
These clothes make everything feel tight
and restrictive and hot and that's
where the uncomfortable part comes in.
Breathing is difficult.
Stares are worse.
Pooping.
Pooping is complicated.
Well,
because last night I got yelled at
on two separate occasions in two separate
bars by two separate people
simply for being big.
I was leaving one
bar to go meet up with Tommy
and they said some old guy was there
and I don't know if it's a line from a movie
that I just didn't get, but he
said it like three or four times, like every time he'd walk
past me. And then I got up to leave and he's like oh shit he's standing up look at him he's just
and he kept saying he's as big as Sputnik this guy's as big as Sputnik and I'm like
like the Russian satellite what an odd what a weird like there's a lot of really like less
obscure big things out there plus I don't know that sputnik was all that big
nobody knows no i don't know like did he did he then start talking about the movies he rented
at blockbuster yeah he he kept going off and then and then when i got up to to tommy's table
um there was a guy there who as soon as i walked up just starts yelling at me he's like jesus
motherfucker how fucking big it is dude
jesus christ how much you weigh tell me how much you weigh and i'm like uh about like like 310
310 pounds jesus 310 he was korean if you can't tell based on the voice i used but uh i couldn't
and the funny part was he was talking about like how just tall and huge and big you were and ryan
was standing next to you too which ryan is six five yeah ryan kind of reels you in of not making you look insanely massive but he didn't have
any comments for him it was just yeah like ryan is bigger than other than me every other person
in that bar yeah and uh yeah so i got yelled at twice for being big last night which was
that's a good sign i guess that's good it means things are heading the right direction
if you're not getting yelled at for being big you should try to get bigger which was, that's a good sign. I guess that's good. It means things are heading the right direction.
If you're not getting yelled at for being big,
you should try to get bigger.
Um,
what else did we have today?
You guys,
Tanner,
have you been getting back in the bench press mojo a little bit?
Yeah.
Rocking that band bell.
Yup.
Getting,
uh,
getting back at it here. I,
it's,
the road to 500 is well underway.
Yeah.
The road to 500, the road to 500 is well underway yeah the road to 500
the road to just back over 400 would be a good start well geez don't uh set your sights too low
there it's going pretty good though i mean considering how well like a 10 month bench
presser you know a 10 month shoulder recovery can go and relatively speaking to the prior
seven months when i couldn't do any bench
pressing at all it's going really really well but it's still you know i'm getting it's it's
sore and easily easily aggravated but it's just so much better than what it used to be like that
i can live with weak setbacks here and there like when the in the grand scheme of it it's all trending still trending upwards
yeah and like this week went went well i i did uh five sets of five relatively heavy and then i i
trained pressing again a second day of the week with some different exercises and it feels pretty
good right now so i just have to self-monitor it really closely like i don't feel like i can
program it exactly yet
because then I have an expectation of weights that I'm supposed to hit,
and then if it doesn't feel good, it's still not a good idea for me to push that.
So I have to kind of go week to week.
But I'm really looking forward to programming on it
because once I can program, I feel like that's when I'll really...
The gains will just flow in.
on it because once I can program I feel like that that's when I'll really the gains will just flow in but I think I mean I feel like I can it's probably a you know I I'm could probably bench
about that 400 pounds or so now so it's way better than when I could bench 185 pounds yeah yeah which
was only a few months ago yeah right right um yeah I've been using the band bell bar quite a bit
quite a bit more and the Swiss bar as uh other exercises to do more but I really using the band bell bar quite a bit, quite a bit more, and the Swiss bar as other exercises to do more,
but I really like the band bell bar.
I feel like that's been helping.
That's good.
The earthquake bar, what have you.
We've got about 10 minutes left, you guys.
We did have one review.
Did we have an iTunes review?
Yeah.
If my phone doesn't die at its 1%,
I'll try to make it there.
What's weird, it didn't make our review number go up like our number of reviews did someone withdraw is it because there's is it because there's so many reviews itunes can't
keep track that's like they nothing's made to count that high it's like when the year 2000 came
and they didn't know the world shut down like they didn't know what computers were going to... Like, they didn't know what to do when...
Whoever programmed us, whoever works at iTunes and when we submitted for our podcast,
and they set it up like, oh, these people never have more than 20 reviews.
Set it up for a max 20.
Let's cap it.
Once they get over 20, we'll just start dumping the early ones.
in the early ones.
See, I'm trying to figure out the dates of this here.
So, okay, 2017, this is the one there.
And also the way that they order these is sometimes very confusing.
They don't go chronologically,
but April 17th, 2017, this would be the one then.
That's within a week, correct?
I haven't read this.
Correct.
I don't think so.
Okay, so five out of five stars smiley face yes i dash i have listened to every episode and have only taken
and it has only taken me a year to leave a review love seeing the episodes drop into my email on
monday gives me a break from the monotony of the day. Always good for a few smiles, laughs, and info.
Keep it up, guys.
Who was it?
Munga Barb.
Righteous.
Very cool.
Very sweet.
Well, thanks, Barb.
I'm assuming it's Barb.
I think so.
Or Munga.
Listen to everyone.
That's pretty impressive.
Yeah.
That actually is really impressive.
I don't think there's too many people that have done that i have not listened to every one of them
i really haven't either i used to but then when we started doing video that was like
becomes satisfied me enough so i uh i figure when we got a little bit of time left i will uh
cap it off with a little poop story i guess since we've got one this is a fresh fresh gym poop story from about a week or two ago i was dead lifting um
just doing my thing there was some touch and go in there and you know that transition like right
when the bar hits the floor and you kind of re-engage a little bit things maybe will have
loosened up on the back side just a touch and the old trap door-engage a little bit. Things maybe will have loosened up on the backside just a touch,
and the old trap door opened up a little bit, and I panicked.
Like right away I was like, I just shit in my pants.
But I wasn't sure.
And this happens where I was deadlifting was right in front of the bathroom,
like right there.
So I deadlift, and I basically fart or shit and and stop
and turn around and right then big shane goes into the bathroom and you know it's gonna be
shane goes into the bathroom with like a duffel bag and a briefcase a novel and he has his glasses
like extra batteries for all of his electronics he He has his glasses on and his shaving kit.
Because he comes in from work, and then he changes into his Superman outfit.
And he takes off his glasses.
He puts in his contacts.
I think he shaves there.
And poops every time.
And so I'm standing there casually.
I don't want to tell anybody, because it could be a false alarm so I'm just like
making conversation with people like
Ryan was there I was talking to Ryan for a little bit
and I go talk to Corey for a little bit
how's it going
it's pretty cool I definitely don't have poop in my pants
right now and you know going about
and just like and it started building
and the anxiety because you're
you're dead lifting like
things are already a little swampy down there anyways.
You don't really know if a little poop came out.
And Shane took as long as Shane could possibly have taken,
like 15 to 20 minutes.
And I can't go do another set.
Yeah.
So I'm jamming up the platform with the fucking squat rack on it too.
And just milling around.
I'm sure people were like, well, Jesus, I'd sure like to use that while you're running around fucking talking to people.
You've got a podcast every week.
We're tired of hearing you fucking talk.
And finally Shane came out and I immediately ran in and did what I like to call the old number three, where you don't have to pee or poop.
You just go and get like a status check and clean up a little bit.
And fortunately, there wasn't any poop.
It was just like a, you know.
A panic.
Some air went through an already traumatized area.
But yeah, it was, I had a lot of anxiety about that for a little bit.
But I went out and finished up then.
And that's really the most important part of all this.
That's what's really important.
Yeah, you can't let shitting or almost shitting be what dictates
whether or not you have a good workout.
Got to have a little stick-to-itiveness.
That's right.
So, well, I think we're ready to about wrap up.
Let's run through the rundown of all the things we need you guys to do.
So first and foremost, iTunes reviews, iTunes five-star review.
Just do it at this point.
Go back and listen to the end of last episode.
And the one before that.
And the one before that.
And all of the ones before that in which we told you to do it
and you still haven't done it.
What the fuck, dude?
And then after you're done doing
that go to massonomics.com you want to really support the podcast you can buy some stuff there
um that helps us pay for um you know doing things equipment travel you know helps us offset some of
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So that's pretty cool.
Look at the nips on that fella.
I heard on, I don't remember, I can't claim it,
but I'm going to use it from here on out.
The nips don't lie.
This is going to be the new thing.
But anyway, go to the store there.
You can buy shirts, hats, all the good stuff.
Also on massanomics.com, there there's articles videos um all of that goodness make sure you're following
massonomics on facebook go to youtube.com forward slash massonomics and there we've got still all
our videos from the arnold um really picking up a lot of steam at this point i mean they're they're
we're getting the views are snowballing
into the point where I think we're up.
Twos of three views a week.
Twos of three views a week.
But no, we did work really, really hard on those.
So you guys, we've got some big name people there
and it was a ton of fun
and it is some legit high quality shit.
So if you haven't checked out our videos from the Arnold,
make sure you do that.
We're pretty proud of them
and they turned out pretty sweet.
And at this point, I mean, if things really start to continue to snowball on YouTube,
they might start actually paying us.
As long as they...
In the two to three cents.
I mean, at this rate, it's per week.
So I think all it would take is for our YouTube viewership to multiply by about,
we suppose like two to three million views per week.
And then we can start getting cash and checks.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
So if all of you guys that listen to this,
we'll watch our videos like a hundred thousand times.
Just put it on repeat.
Do us a favor.
And I think that's all the shit we need you to do
short of then following us all on Instagram.
I'm Tyler.
Professor Sean's on Instagram.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
We put enough pressure on Sean's.
Let me see if we can even find him on here.
We've got...
I'm going to assume there's no posts yet, though.
Oh, I'm sure not.
That's the next thing.
Someone needs to pressure him to follow him.
Well, just being on Instagram, though, we talked about this,
the very simple step is following people.
He follows 13 people.
He follows 13.
Everybody, all of you,
need to go and follow Professor Shanz on Instagram.
That's Professor Shanz, spelled S-C-H-A-N-Z.
Send him weird DMs.
Blow his phone up
send him DMs
asking him
when his first post
is going to be
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