Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 68: The Return of The Tomahawk_D

Episode Date: July 24, 2017

Guess who's back, back again... Tommy's back, tell some men.  Tommy has been AWOL from the Massenomics Podcast for two weeks.  Where did he go? What did he do?  Does he even still lift? As a welcome home present he teaches us a little trick about converting from kilograms to pounds. As always, you can watch this episode in full color video... Or check out the super-high quality audio version below.. If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2020.. Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M

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Welcome back. I'm back tommy is uh what's the catchphrase again uh locked and loaded we've missed that just been waiting to say that for weeks now tommy's been off on his ventures uh and tanner is still here hey i'm still here we never i don't i don't i don't get to go anywhere. We didn't get rid of Tanner yet. So this week we are going to basically just pick Tommy's brain about where the hell he's been and what he's been doing. Tommy, break down what type of drugs you've been doing. Well, I've gone to the far reaches of the upper Midwest.

The furthest reaches. Maybe even almost west, you could say. And i've also made a little journey to the southwest too and uh i guess it started we're going three weeks now i just feel so out of the mass economics world like like i just see stuff happening and i'm like oh i guess we didn't tell you yet we're rich now oh that happened when we finally rich. I think the key ingredient was removing Tommy from the equation. People literally were sending us checks in the mail. I'm not sure what for or what we have to do in return. Me and Tanner are married, and it's been a real test of our faithfulness.

But you guys probably have health insurance with each other now. With all the ladies. Yeah. Massanomics now pays for health insurance yeah i have been out of the loop could we do that could we get like a company health insurance plan i because my crossfit gym that i own does not have one i think you can uh i think the you can get on a group we need sean's because he well would he know or just hate the idea he would be angry health insurance sucks We need Sean's because he, well, would he know or just hate the idea? He would just hate it.

He would be angry at everything. He'd be like, health insurance sucks. You guys should just go to the doctor when you die. Everyone. So no, Tommy, you went on like some serious vacation. Yeah. How many days have you worked in the last 20 days? Well, like maybe five.

And that's really weird for me to say because I'm the guy that like, well, I mean, I usually try to get like a good vacation. But a lot of times it ends up being like a Friday here, a Monday here. It's never these extended things. But it all started when it took like five days off and then got back. And then it was like the 4th of July. So that was already a week that was short by like some time. And then I took another day off and then got back. And there was like another week off.

So it just really snowballed. So where did you go first? So first I took off to Glacier National Park in Montana. Based upon the pictures I saw, Glacier National Park is fucking Narnia. A green screen. It is. It's basically a fake place. Yeah, and that's really what it looks like.

You routinely take pictures, and you guys saw them, and you kind of look at it, and you're like, it looks fake. We could literally just find some touristy spot, take the same picture, and people would be like, yeah, it's the same thing. But no, I highly recommend it if anyone gets a chance to go to Glacier. The ride, the car ride out there from where we're at is an incredible ride. How long? Well, we broke it up into two parts. Yeah, it's actually where we went. It was closer to 18.

And we went halfway the first day, miles city montana well about halfway we ate my our eight hours ah the windy city yeah yeah i think that's what it was and then after that uh it was just getting all the way to the national rising sun miles city montana that's right my uh i did i did some great catch-up work on podcasts, though. I don't know if you guys have got to listen to S-Town yet, but... Oh, yeah. What is that? I do not know. It's from the creators of... Serial. It's from the creators of Serial

and This American Life. Tell me. I've actually meant to... I'm really glad. I've meant to and forgotten to bring up S-Town. I have to mention this now, because I think I'm in a pretty exclusive group when I say this, is that I have listened to S-Town twice. Really?

We got my girlfriend's parents going on it on another car ride that happened a week later, and they couldn't stop listening to it, so I ended up just listening to the whole thing twice. So, break it down for me. Well, did you listen to Serial at all? No. Okay, because it has nothing to do with that. Good, because I can't start things that make me. Really, it's just a seven-part series.

Hour each? 45 minutes to an hour each. I like that. So it's not too hard to digest. And it starts with there's this guy in the middle of, he calls it. Alabama. True story? Yes, this is a true story.

It's called S-Town because he calls it Shit Town. He lives in Shit Town. He's kind of your more progressive, really out there, forward-thinking hillbilly in a way. He's like a genius almost, and he hates his surroundings. He hates everything about where he's at. How is the narrative told? It happens because this guy calls this journalist in New York and says, I think there's a murder going on down, or a murder happened down here, and the rich people of this town are covering it up.

And he kind of keeps going on and on with it for like a year. A big police cover-up. Finally, he talks the journalist into coming down there, and it just turns into this whole other thing where you realize that this guy is like the mad scientist living in the woods of Alabama. And you could not write this story and make it into a movie because people are like, well, yeah, that was a good fantasy show you just wrote. It's so out there.

So we don't want to give any spoilers, but I already want to watch it or listen to it. It's really good. I would recommend it. To date, it is my favorite podcast. Behind Masonomics. You finish each episode really wondering what's going to go on the next episode.

And fortunately, because it's 2017 you can just then listen to the next episode instead of waiting a week this is why i don't with like game of thrones i will not watch an episode of game of thrones until the season until the whole season is done i'll bite down on the urge well i will watch all of it in two of the saddest days where it's gross. It's just me in the house and the lights are off, and I'll watch for 11 hours straight. I'm going to take that to the next level and just wait until the entire series is done and then shut myself off for a month.

You've never watched it? I've actually seen a little over a season of it, and it's just I've always been in times in my life where I'm— It's just too many wieners? Yeah, it's too many wieners. A question about that, and one of you guys might know. Hafthor Bjornsson, friend of the podcast. Yes.

I touched him once. Did you guys ever touch him? You did definitely touch him. I mean, you're up to speed on Game of Thrones. Yes. Okay, and you're not, but I won't say anything that's going to spoil it here. But like the mountain. Yep.

You know how now he's always wearing that helmet? Mm-hmm. uh the mountain yep you know how now he's always wearing that helmet i heard that it is not actually no longer actually him yeah that they didn't want to pay him and they just got somebody else just another tall man yeah but it makes sense but he still uh posts half the or post things like related to game of thrones and he refers to himself as the mountain i mean everyone does but but uh i just wondered if, I don't know if that's fact or fiction, but. I also think it's interesting, like, he is enormous

and is awesome and strong in things, but it's weird that he's mostly known as the Mountain, which actually, from an acting standpoint on the show, is the least acting anyone's ever done. Literally, I bet he has, how many, how much scene does he have, like, how many how much scene does he have like how many minutes on screen does he have where you can see his face like three total rarely at the most of screen time and doesn't say anything there's the one fight scene that's like a minute and a half long with him and the dude yeah and that's like cool but it's like not even that cool and

then that's it and then they put the helmet, and then he's just a fucking human statue with the helmet on and that's it. Yeah. But he's like fucking super famous for that. Really big time. And I mean, deservedly so, I guess, but it's his strong man.

Accomplishments are actually a little bit cooler than like a lot more earned than that. Like, like I would like his strongman the shame the shameful thing is that like as a strongman competitor the amount of work that goes into that and like what he's accomplished should make you five million dollars yeah but that probably makes him a couple hundred thousand dollars maybe yeah like maybe and uh but like he's like i don't know i just kind of was on this thing briefly,

and now I make $5 million every year as long as they're still showing it. Yeah, it's crazy. That's star power. But someone let me know, is Hafthor Bjornsson truly the man behind the mask anymore? Or is it just some... Because I heard they just found somebody they could pay a lot less and be like, all right, here you go, you're the mountain. That's interesting.

They should do that with the next Batman movie. No Affleck. They should quit making Batman movies with different Batmans. When we're 60, are they going to be on the 12th different Batman? Look at James Bond.

There was nothing wrong with Christian Bale Batman. Did Christian Bale not want to do Batman anymore? Was that the deal? What about George Clooney? We don't talk about it. George Clooney was Batman. That was the nipple costumes, George Clooney Batman. Is that when Arnold was Mr. Freeze?

I believe so. When Mr. Thurman was Poison Ivy, Danny DeVito was... What, Jim Carrey was... No, DeVito would have been in the... The Penguin. Yeah, the Penguin was with fucking old what's-his-ass Michael Keaton. Yeah, Michael Keaton. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was the Tim Burton stuff. What about when Jim Carrey was the mask? He was the mask. Also the Riddler. Kind of the same character. Actually, guys, I want to sidetrack from our... Our seven sidetrack from our Tommy's Vacation

to S-Town to Game of Thrones to The Mask. I want to talk about Smoke It. Favorite Jim Carrey movies. This is The Mask related. I saw The Mask, and I don't remember on what it was, but I forgot. Probably a VHS.

I forgot how hot Cameron Diaz was in the mask and that still holds up really what about there's something about Mary not nothing compared to her in the mask her in the mask I that's it didn't even know she was in that movie really be honest I haven't seen it since I was in like third I don't even know if I can pull it up here um not in a timely enough manner i'm afraid but uh but yeah cameron diaz in the mask that's on my top 10 i think for sure do you have a favorite mainly mainly because i think i was maybe like 12 11 12 years old i think i became a man as soon as i saw cameron diaz in the mask but you did it i forgot that that was the thing i thought cameron

diaz was whoever cameron Diaz is and stuff. I was like, oh yeah, she's nice. She seems pretty. And then that came out and I was like, whoa, wait a minute. That shit changed my life. Do you have a favorite line from the mask? No. I only know one. Smoke yet. I've got one other one. He goes, P-A-R-T

why? Because I gotta. Yeah. Tanner, that sucks. Okay, so we're going to back all the way back through S-Town seems cool, Game of Thrones, who knows

and we're back to Tommy's driving and go. Okay, drove in a car, very long time. You just left the windy city of Mile City, Montana. And then we continued on our majestic journey You just left the windy city of Miles City, Montana. The windy city of Miles City. The city by the bay. And then we continued on our majestic journey to the far reaches of Montana, nearly Canada. I think we were about a half hour from Canada, right in there.

So we were getting up there. But, you know, we stayed in the park. The thing you learn in a hurry is in Glacier, bears are a real problem. Like, it is posted everywhere um they recommend you don't go anywhere without bear spray which i had never heard of before this i don't know are you guys familiar with bear spray carry it with me all the time dan bell uses that doesn't yeah yeah it's the same thing that those guys on instagram now um it's it's basically pepper spray for bears and uh they charge you like 45 bucks for a canister of it

but um it's kind of a necessity out in the okay that's how distracting cameron diaz in the mask is go ahead so bear spray yeah so bear spray uh so you gotta get a can it's highly recommended you carry a canister of that now is it a big like aggressive we're talking it almost looks like a tiny little fire extinguisher yeah and it's i think i think it sprays like a fire it's like bear mace yeah it is bear mace is what it is and so you got to get one of those and of course you don't see a bear so then you just spend that money tyler's around yeah uh but uh glacier it's it's a lot to take in the mountains are just huge you kind of can't wrap your head around how big this stuff is because being where we live you never see anything bigger than like a three-story building so we have two five-story yeah two yeah federal

building there oh that's the six I don't know actually actually I think all three are six actually okay federal building six I know that and the Ward Hotel and the citizens building are all six stories mmm Wow Metropolis. Anyway, so. Yeah, skyline. We are the worst at getting through a story. Yeah.

So, giant mountains, bears. So, yeah, we did that. Glacier was sweet. We just went on some crazy hikes. Did you even lift? I did not do any lifting during that trip. We did a little canoeing. Were you canoeing or were you kayaking?

It was a kayak. You know, I feel like you put me on the back of a kayak, the thrust I can get going on that thing, you can just. How do you feel on tandem kayaks? Any opinion after that? You know, that was my first time, and it seemed to go fine. Is there something I. Oh, I just, people, a lot of people say that's a good way to get divorced

i feel like i feel like though if i'm on my own kayak that's also a good way for me to end up like just mad yeah we'll just in the water like have you ever gone kayaking yeah i've done tandem and solo how do you like it took me some doing to just be able to stay upright like at all and i think it's a weight it's a top heavy thing yeah yeah like there's a lot of me that's above the center of gravity which means things i like one a boat goes by 100 yards away and a little wave hits and i'm fucking upside down yeah so when i see those people who like go off a waterfall yeah i'm going crazy i haven't done kayaking like that well no no no yeah i haven't either but i can't even float really.

And it's a hell of like a shoulder and back workout. Yeah, but this one wasn't too bad because the lake we were on, you're in the mountains and there's zero current of any kind. It's just like the water's stagnant and there's no boats or anything. So you want to go one way, like three good paddles, and you'll coast even. So that was pretty good. Did you makeah do all the paddling so yeah most of it i'm like i gotta take pictures so you gotta you gotta take a camera here and don't you fucking dare dump us yeah so you had your camera with you i have a camera in the kayak was there any nervousness

about that uh no i also had my phone on me too so jesus we go down i'm all we go down there's like three thousand dollars for the gears have you done any kayaking before i had been in one before okay i have been in kayaks about 30 times and 35 times i've ended up in the water oh no i was i was feeling pretty good i wouldn't bring fucking like a dollar bill with me because i'd just be afraid i'd get wet like there's no way i'd go kayaking with anything of value. Getting in and out is the hardest. That was the hardest part.

There was a doc and a lady to help. So that, that was, that was key. Yeah. So is that the highs of that trip? So that was the highs. Well, and then from there we made our way to Missoula, Montana. Leah had a friend that lives there. So we got to spend the day with our,

spend two days with them and got to kind of check out downtown missoula which is a little bit kind of your mountain town scene sort of and that was cool got back from there i was back in town i think three days i headed back west again another five hours to rapid did you get three lifting days in a row um i did i think i did that week i did three days in a row which kind of sucked went to Rapid. I was in Rapid for like four days. The Black Hills of South Dakota, for those of you that don't know. Okay. Have you guys, or I'm curious, this is kind of like a thing coming around now.

Have any of you guys done an escape room or seen or heard of these? I know what they are. I don't know what that is. So this is kind of the new thing that's popping up. Is that like Panic Room, the popular movie from 2001? It's just like that. You reenact it. Actually, not far from it.

So basically, you go into a room and you have to have clues on to solve maybe a mystery that happened in the room or how to get out. And so I had my first escape room experience,

which was basically... So it's like Saw. Actually, yes. It is a lot like Saw. It is a lot like Saw. You're hopefully not going to get tortured. Only when you get hot or you need to pee, you just leave the room anyway.

You're like, no, seriously, let me out. Or when it gets to be too much, a guy comes in like, are things going okay in here still? Does it get intense or what? Well, it's just like, damn it, why are we so stupid? Why can't we figure this out? I need to explain it. You mean like you can't get out of the room and just figure out a puzzle? No, no.

So this is what they – there's a bunch of different ones. And they all have – most of them are like you're trying to solve a mystery. And you're just in a room. It happens to be. But like I think the genre of this thing is called escape room. So for this, it was you were solving – it was called like Ghosts of the Black Hills. And so there was this lady. They kind of give you like the

the preface to the story like is it an actor or someone on a tv screen telling you no like it's the guy that works there he's like all right so this is what happens here okay so he he'll tell you about how he's wearing like a megadeth t-shirt doesn't mean it's not far from that yeah so there's ghost in it yeah like after he walked away i'm like god you couldn't have put like a little more like because that emphasis and get a little get a little more emphasis on how you were telling your story? Get a little old-timey about it. Yeah. And be like, and here.

Yeah, yeah. And there. The story of the Black Forest Ham. Tommy DeFay in The Mystery of the Black Forest Ham. Yeah. But he kind of gives you the buildup to the story. And then he's like all right and uh for this story i would start by looking in the jewelry box he leaves the room and you hit the

timer on the bed to see like how long so you're in a bedroom and it's supposedly where this lady died and like you open up the jewelry box and you're like tearing it apart then you find stuffed into the side there's this little piece of paper and it's like it was a note from the lady that died and she's like um i hope they never look here like all right it's like if you're reading this you need to look it was like basically like baiting you with clues so then you look in this other spot and you find this number it's like okay and then that number kind of will tell you to another thing then all of a sudden you have this pile of numbers well there's a safe in the corner so then like you're trying to figure out like what combination the numbers go in you get into the safe and then it gives you like the person or it has like a heat gun to detect ghosts and then you're like using the heat gun you find a hot

thing in the room and that's like another clue and then you just keep doing these clues until you solve this mystery and that sounds awesome it was kind of it's a fun way to spend an hour and a half you know is that how long it takes well Well, the time is for an hour. It should only take an hour. It took us closer to an hour and a half. I've seen people do them and stuff, and I was torn. I was like, that either could be really cool. It depends on how it's done.

You kind of start to get stressed at times. Why is this taking so long? Or I'd be like, this is fucking stupid. I need to leave. It kind of feels like you're in a little video game. If you give up the fact that I'll be in Fantasyland. I suppose you have to fully buy in or it's not going to be. If you're like, this is kind of lame. Or like, what person would leave so many numbers later on?

Yeah, you could have just, in the first note, told me what the combination of safe is. Yeah. So what about your spelunking? Okay, yeah, I got to try that. Oh, yeah, and then that same trip, there is... We'll do a little history lesson here.

All right, I like it. In the Black Hills of South Dakota, there is a lake called Pactola. Pactola is created... This is a song. It's a haiku. In Pactola, it's created because of a dammed creek river whatever the valley did you guys know there's a whole town underneath there completely underwater there's a

whole city of pactola so people go scuba diving yes that's like a great spot for scuba diving training they say you can follow the road right in and it's about 130 feet down there's still some buildings sort of there and structures kind of there whatever's left but yeah they just fucking damned this and just flooded this whole valley yeah fuck the whole town they let the people know first no they had about 10 minutes notice yeah no i actually don't know i don't have any idea how that went so that was kind of like oh brother where art thou it it it's uh where they came up with that story yeah probably uh but while we're out there there is you know we're going around and because we are like in the mountains and there is this is a national forest so there's no cabins on it which is kind of a a nice change of scenery to not see a lake completely surrounded in cabins and it's

actually interesting out there because here every lake is houses all around it yeah and out there there's not not a lake that i know within about 50 or 60 miles out there that has a house on it yeah like you actually feel like if you sold docks or boat lifts out there you wouldn't even sell one and there's a lot of fucking lakes out there yeah yeah so we uh we got to cruise around on the lake and after you go kind of back through these windy parts far enough, you kind of come to an area where there's a lot of people just like hanging out and cliff jumping, and it's a spot where people can hike into.

So if you don't have a boat, you can still get to enjoy the lake. And we pull up right away, and there's like this. I'm told it's around 35, 40 feet is how tall this cliff is, kind of depending on the water level. And I see people up there jumping, and at this this point i had had several beverages in my body and i'm like i a guy my size does not need to be like climbing up rocks trying to jump down like do this climb up that thing yeah well you had to climb around the side which when i say climb around the side i mean walk on loose bricks on a steep hill yeah but i'm just like i i'm not doing that that's not my thing and uh my girlfriend's sister she jumped up there twice and just did it like she jumped off of there twice like she ran up right

away like in front of all these people i'm like yeah that's that's how many people were jumping off of it like was there a lot of people watching and few people so and this is this is actually probably what adds to it more than anything is that the area you get to is like a kind of a little you could call it a bay or a cove where a lot of boats park and because it's the fourth of july weekend there's even more boats than normal. So when I got there, when we got there the first time, I would say in that area, like watching you, there was probably 35, between 35 and 50 boats.

And then when you think each one of those has in order to 5 to 10 people on it, it's like there's a lot of people watching you. So you get up there, it's like, don't be a pussy. Oh, yeah. Like all eyes are, every time someone someone's jumping it's like all eyes are kind of headed that way you go to tommy's instagram and watch it because it to me watching it i was like like just watching you i was like oh no like don't do that you're gonna die there's no like that would hurt no matter what happened i feel like there would be some pain involved in that it how high would you was that did they say i think it's between 35 and 40 okay

it's right in there and it looks like 100 yeah and i bet it looks like 500 from the top you know it's hard to say though because when you're up there so anyways this is what happens is the first day you're drunk so yeah the first day i blow it off nope not doing it the uh the next day we go to the lake again it's a little earlier in the day. Not as many boats. I'm like, you know what? Let's do this. I'm telling the assistant, I'm like, I'll do it again if you go up there.

I'm like, I don't want to walk by myself. I'll just probably slip and fall and look like an idiot. I need you to hold my hand. So talk her into going up there. We get there. You look over the edge. And because you're in this mountain area, the water is so clear that you can see down. And there's rocks right below you.

It's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to fall on that thing. And I haven't seen anybody that weighs over 200 pounds jump off this, so I'm going to be the guy to hit the bottom. Yeah, because you're going to sink deeper. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. But she's like, no, I know. You just got to jump out past that. And it's like, okay. Like, yeah, that's up to me.

Yeah, so it's like I'm looking over the edge, and then we just walk back like five feet. I'm like, well, can't really think about it. So then I just got like three good steps and gave it a jump and hit the water, and you get in. And I went down far enough that when I gave it a kick with my foot, I did hit one of the rocks, which wasn't bad because I just barely caught it with the edge of my toe. I had this tiny little nick on my left foot. No big deal. Come up, and then you're like, oh, yeah, kind of being like an idiot, I have my arms out like this. little nick on my on my left foot no big deal come up and then you're like oh yeah kind of you know being like an idiot i have my arms out like this so they slap the water hard it kind of looked like you're going like this oh yeah like you start turning the crank

when you're up because you don't know what to do with your arms it's so scary and uh yeah for my snowboarding days that was the thing it's like you get in the air like when you first get used to going off jumps and you're not used to just holding yourself in the air you feel like you got to straighten yourself out so everyone the first time they start hitting jumps is doing this whole thing just spinning their arms trying to but then once you get more used to like your body awareness and control you can just go and do whatever but i definitely was not used to being up 40 feet so i was swinging my arms everywhere hit the water get on the boat and you know you kind of have the thing where it's like ah my legs got kind of slapped my arms got kind of slapped and i'm sitting there and i look at my

right heel and it's bleeding pretty bad and i i think because i don't think my right foot hit the rocks so i think just the way i hit just just like the impact split my heel open no shit so that was that was wildly annoying i would be so worried that if i jumped like you'd get turned around in air and like you're just gonna do a belly flop and die. I mean, that'd be hard to do. I suppose anything's possible. I worry most about, because I could stumble just walking into my kitchen. So I would worry about, what if I fuck up the step?

That is the biggest thing. Because you go like, all right, I'm going to go right, left, and jump right, and jump off the left. So instead you go right, and you stumble, and you get to your knee, and you're like, whoa, and you just roll right off the edge, and you fall, and you just fucking die. That is the biggest thing. Like a dry landing. That one clean step you need. That's all you need is one good step. On the video, I could hear people talking as you jumped, and I thought I heard them

say, like, you didn't jump that far away. Were they saying you didn't jump far or you did jump far? That is what they said. Because to me, I'm like, God, he got good disc, like, how are you going to jump farther away? What type of expectations do they have of the average person? I have no idea what they were... Tommy squats 500-some pounds. Tommy can jump far. Right.

So isn't that what they were saying, though? That is what they were saying, and I don't know if it's because they were at a different angle than we usually were so they don't see how far out people actually go but just to show like how crazy some people are though there was a guy that ran up there like his his buddies just had this he was like a teenage kid his buddies just had this crappy pontoon they drop him off he has his shoes and his shirt on and everything runs up there ahead of everyone takes off jumping and does a gainer which is you know like a running backflip just does it drops right into the water hops on his buddy's boat and they drive away like wow someone has definitely been drunk or stoned and died like oh that exact spot before i would assume right like you have for sure thousands of people

don't jump off of that and not like eventually yeah i feel like there's not a lot of like public staircases in which people haven't fallen and died. You know what I mean? Like definitely people died there. Probably that weekend. That's the weekend that's going to happen. So that was that trip.

And then I came back and I was in town for two whole days before I took off for sunny Las Vegas. Did you lift? I did not lift. Jesus. Yeah. That was your... Well, I did you lift i did not lift jesus yeah that was your well i did manage to squeeze in some days but not that week that week i did not lift and then i took off for vegas and the thing about vegas in the middle of july actually what happens in vegas i'll just talk about the weather we'll talk about that that doesn't have to think about the weather

in vegas in july is it's really, really hot. It's hot there in December. Hotter than any of us were really ready for. And there was a point where we were walking one day and I thought we were going to die. And we just had to flag down a cab. And when he got us, he's like, yeah, it's pretty hot. My car says 120. Yeah.

Jesus. Pretty hot. Yeah. That's when like the pool doesn't even really do it. you almost need to be in the casino floor yeah um but you know it's vegas i think ryan drank a gallon of pina colada one day and it's speaking of ryan i believe it was the first night there ryan had an outfit that i could only describe yeah so so Ryan bought a pair of white pants. Tight white pants. Yeah, he bought a pair of white. Really white, too, like bleached white.

They are white. It is white denim. He bought a pair just to wear to Vegas. Oh, they were denim? I thought they were like polyester. No, they were denim, and he bought those. And before we left, we had to run to Sioux Falls, and he went into a store and found this huge red, white,

and blue American flag shirt. It just says usa very big down the middle it's like it almost looked like a 1965 like olympic oh yeah it's it's uh it's it's champion which champion is now kind of becoming trendy again you know like oh it is yeah the like yeah you know like everyone in high school or depending on what year you were in high school had just cloth champion shorts like right now are at Urban Outfitters for like $40. Shopko's been selling that for $10 for 30 years now. So he had this champion shirt,

and of course he was wearing his signature yellow glasses. Yellow aviators. And then to tie it all together, he had to tuck it in. He definitely looked like he was visiting America from another country and was having a lot of fun and had to let everyone know it. During that trip, there were several people that stopped us and asked us where we were from and what team we were on. We had another buddy there that was pretty large. He's close to Ryan's size. You get a few of us together and people want to know where you're from what you're doing here and and what you do so we had to answer those questions but

uh yeah we're here to fucking party and we did that yeah vegas vegas i don't know if you guys have seen top golf you guys familiar with that one yeah it's the thing it's kind of almost like a shooting range for golf i saw you i've i've seen it on your snapchat if you guys have seen Topgolf. Are you guys familiar with that one? Yeah. It's the thing. It's kind of almost like a shooting range for golf. I saw you. I've seen it on your Snapchat. If you're interested in golf at all, I would recommend it. It's pretty cool. Is that fun?

It is. It looks like you spent some time there. Yeah. We've got about two hours in. Is it? Somehow, they have some technology figured out that there's a tracker in the ball, and it keeps track of where it lands. So you can play games with, depending on where you hit the ball ball it's worth so many points and so you have teams where you play

against each other is it um very expensive or just well because it's vegas everything we have a group of people so it's 125 an hour for the group so two hours you're at 250 and then there was a 300 drink and food minimum so now you have 500 and some bucks. So it's like how many people were there? There was seven of us. So when it was all said and done, you know, tipping everything. So it's still like 60 bucks a person. No, we're closer to 100.

But I mean, if you're going to go on vacation, you got to do something. So yeah. And then I returned. You can buy beer at gas stations and take it into everywhere in Vegas. Well, the funny thing is, is at our pool, which isn't even like a pool with like a legit DJ or like a real party, mixers were $18. And Ryan first ordered one with an extra shot, just not knowing how much they were. And the guy was like, $24. What?

Yeah. When I went, I went there, we went there a while back for, my wife and I went and saw Deftones there. And we went in, this is for like our first wedding anniversary. My wife and I went and saw Deftones there, and we went in. This was for our first wedding anniversary. So we went and went to the show. Sober went into the show. And my first drink was like $16 or $17 for a Morgan and Diet Coke in a full-size red Solo cup.

They fill it with ice. They use shot regulators, so you get exactly one ounce of Captain Morgan, which in South Dakota, you order a Captain Morgan Coke, you get five shots of Captain Morgan. I think they would serve that to children. Yeah. Like probably,

it's not the code. I don't even know. I don't even know if you have to be 21 to drink that, but no, and then fill it up with Diet Coke. And so I'm not even kidding you. I had like 25 of those while I was there so I spent like three or four hundred dollars on drinks at the concert uh-huh and um and I finally you know I

got fucking lit up but but then things got a little hazy and we played a bunch of roulette and I woke up the next morning and I was like oh I remember like I remembered how much how many drinks I had at the concert and then I know that know that I stayed out until like 6 o'clock in the morning that we stayed up. And I was like, start to ready to go through my wallet. And what I do is I take any ATM receipts or stuff like that. I just put them in my wallet with my cash so I'm ready. And I go through and I pulled out like $500 in cash and there was no ATM receipts. Then I had my wife.

I'm like, honey, I need you to look at the bank account and make sure I didn't take out any money last night. She's like, no, there's nothing. It was like that scene in Rain Man. I recapped it with my buddy that was there. He was like, no, you never won big but it was just like, you won $50. Then we'd leave and go to a

different place. You won $80 and you won $100 and you won $20, $ to a different place. You won 80 bucks and you won 100 bucks and you'd won 20, 20, 20. And I just like fucking, I like was just dialed in on roulette and it was just like, do,

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do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, money on that trip basically that was awesome but that's yeah if i would have spent that much money on one thing in vegas i'd have lost my shit yeah it would have broke my little heart we went to party that's what we did came to party ryan said brandon allen was having an open gym while we were there but ah that was true we were in no condition to make it so we missed out filthy power did you and i ran into a remarkable number of people

that I would say do not lift at all. Did you run into many people that it looked like they do lift? No, I don't know if I saw a single person that I was like, yeah, they lift. Like, when I was there, there was, like, a lot of people at the pool that were, like, the super weird jacked in tan.

No, not at our pool. Like, a lot of lifting bros. Yeah, I thought for sure we'd at least see some of those at the pool, and there was, like, none of that. Some those at the pool, and there was none of that. Some Jersey Shore types. Yeah, there was none of that. Crazy world we live in.

So I want to know how – so what is your morning situations like with a group like that in Vegas? Like was it – when did you guys leave the hotel room in the morning? This is the good thing is we did have like a three-bedroom suite. This was like three bedrooms, four bathrooms, which is awesome for seven guys. And because of that, everyone kind of had their own privacy. I think I was probably the first one up almost every day, and that was usually around like between 9 and 10.

I think one day I did get up at 8.30. But the latest I slept was one day we stayed up until around 5-ish. I think one day I did get up at eight 30, but the latest I slept was that one day we stayed up till around five ish. And I think I slept till 10 that day, but you know, I didn't go to Vegas to lay in bed. And usually one person wakes up and like anything, that person wakes everyone up. Oh yeah. I'm that person. That is the rule. Did you ever, did you ever have a hard time getting it going? Like after on the third night or? No, actually for me, it was the first day was probably the worst staying was probably the worst, staying up that late because with the time difference and everything, that means I was up for a full 24 hours. Yeah.

And then you wake up and you kind of struggle through it and you start playing some blackjack and winning. That turns things right around. You feel good from there. You're like, yeah. That's all it takes. That's not what happens when I play blackjack.

Usually not me either, so I really had to ride that out. But that brings me back to Aberdeen beautiful come full circle there you are and it's like 100 degrees here and it's like 100 degrees it's like nothing here you know you know that that you don't have like a blow a torch blowing in your face cool hundred yeah yeah I tried to hop right back into lifting like fairly high reps right away and my legs were, they were fighting me on that one. They wanted to cramp and give me a hard time. But powering through.

It's too much party. So what about the, we got the calibrated plates. I teased a couple weeks ago that we were going to talk about this at some point in time and that we were going to wait until you're back. Well, I popped in there and saw them for the first time in person. Yeah, that's like a way bigger setup than I expected to see. Yeah, so how many total pounds is it, Tanner? So for people that don't know, we do have the Massanomics gym

has the Rogue calibrated plate set. Yes. The IPF approved. IPF approved. And so the Rogue calibrated plate set, what does that get you, Tanner? And we have the big set. It's the 459-kilogram set, which how many? It's like 10 million pounds.

I think it's over 1,000. It is 1,012 pounds. It's seven sets of 25-kilo plates, which is like 800 pounds of just those. Which we realize that that means the inside plates on the rack will never be removed. Unless someone can like... Go for that 800 pound. Yeah, right, right. And then it's a set of 20 kilo, a set of 15. You got until this time next year.

To put 100 pounds on my one-time best ever, not on calibrated plates. A set of 20, a set of 15, a set of 10, a set of 5, a set of... Then there's three little ones. It's a quarter. They're weird. It's like a quarter, a three-quarter, and a one-and-one-quarter, I think. They're super pretty. They are.

And then on top of this, they're all on... Do they ugly up? What's that? Do they ugly up paint chairs? Yeah, they're all on. What's that? Do they like ugly up paint chips? Yeah, they do. They don't, unfortunately. Like, I want to be like, nobody use those. Those aren't for using.

That's kind of not the point. Yeah, right. But they all fit nicely on this rack that they go on. And it's on wheels. And for being 1,000 pounds, it actually moves, which is kind of the impressive part. Yeah, I got to give props for that Rogue. I can't remember what the hell

that rack is called that they sell but it's actually a bumper plate yeah that's what they advertise it at but i had to ask them before i even ordered it i was like if i put so that do they recommend that or like is that i had to ask them what they're so it's not like on the website like buy these plates and buy this to hold them no but since we've had ours i've actually seen other people on instagram that have the exact same set and because they copied us well um basically kaylor woolham at his gym they just got rogue calibrated plates and if you look they put theirs on the exact same rack that that we use ours on but i i asked him i was like so is this this says it's for bumper plates so like bumper plates are well but you know this that's how you knew the diameter was good but i'm like but that means i'm going to be able to put like 400 400 pounds of bumpers

right and we're at a thousand pounds and you could fit a lot more so i asked how that's going to be and they said well it'll hold it just fine it's made well the wheels you know maybe it won't roll very good with that but you kind of wheels are optional and you kind of also expected that if it got weird they just wouldn't have the wheels yeah i would just put it on well yeah a thousand pounds if you can't really move it yeah i think that's you just but yeah you just park it it works great with the wheels like you i mean you have to put your weight into it to move it but it rolls very it moves easier than i would expect a thousand pounds to move yeah for sure yeah so that's kind of nice you can wheel it around to wherever you're using it. Yeah. Didn't you say Ross even had his little fort built the other day?

Yeah, because our chalk bowl is also on wheels. So he was over in the bench corner, and he set up a fort around the bench press. A wall of calibrated blades, chalk, and nose torque. So we also got the Rogue Ohio power bar, the IPF-approved 20-kilo power bar. So everyone's been testing that out. Tyler, have you got to touch that? I have not lifted in massonomics since i started my crossfit gym well it is first of all it's a it's a beautiful

bar like it's just like pretty factor it takes the cake out of anything in the gym like the because it has the black i don't even know what you call the center part of the bar just the barbell yeah that has that finish on it. Yeah, it's black, and it's not like a super high-gloss black. It's just a good-looking black. It's the collar, right? Yeah. The collar is extra thin to accommodate more plates to go on it in these competitions.

And that's weird to look at because, like the Texas Power Bars we have, it's thicker. Four times as thick or so, yeah. So it's really weird to see that how thin that is but then that gives it a very long sleeve which even the sleeve looks strange how long that is yeah and i think is it even maybe a little longer than a normal i think the level i think the total length is the same but it just it all it looks longer because the color is smaller right yeah and then the knurling is like i mean it's aggressive for yeah and i don't know if that's just because we're so used. Yeah, and then the knurling is like, I mean, it's aggressive for, and I don't know if that's just because we're so used to these bars break,

like a broken in bar. The knurling on the Rogue, like, Ohio bar, like the Olympic lifting bar, like their regular Ohio bar, is way too aggressive for my fucking vibe. Like, I used one, the guy I trained with had one and brought it around for a while.

I'm like, it's a good quality bar, but that shit fucking just fucked my hands up all the time. Oh, I could see how Olympic lifting. Yeah, I mean, you would want to be like pulling and hook gripping and fucking cleaning and shit off of that thing. You know, just with what that knurling is. Obviously, that bar is not meant for any of that. But yeah, that knurling was is super aggressive and i can't imagine on that thing it is very aggressive it is it's i i still think it's maybe a notch or two below the uh the oaky bar but still i mean we're talking about a bar that that's a bar

that's known for its knurling yeah but you know like that bar too the with the you know the caliber it's really meant for singles yeah so. So you're not up there. You really not meant, it's not meant to be knocking out. Yeah. And I don't, I don't count it as, as a,

as a knock at all on the bar. Like I think it is an amazing, it's a suit. And then for the money, like, what are we talking? Like two, I think that the 20 kilo IPF approved one's a little more expensive and I think it might be 300 bucks.

Okay. But still, when you look at that IPF approved approved bars your other choices like any lego like thousand thousand dollar but like 700 800 is that bar 500 is it bar three times better i don't think so i think the only difference is like the lego has like the lifetime guarantee on everything like you'll never like you'll never have to buy another bar to fill in that purpose yeah that'd be the only difference but rogue also like does stand behind their shit i don't know what the warranty is on that but if it gives you any grief there i know they'll just like send you one yeah i mean the only thing i see happening in this bar is eventually after years of use that

nerling is going to get chewed up right well or like you know it just bends from tanner's or like you know it just bends from tanners that deadlift is just gonna keep jumping 100 pounds sumo deadlift yeah ryan and i did do the 1100 pound tandem deadlift and now we have the more calibrated plates we could go for more because we had we had a using the 50 kilo plates and the hundreds like that's basically all we could fit the colors were oh yeah it was full so and even then the collars were barely staying on right so now with all those calibrated 25s we could fit the collars were falling off so and even then the collars were barely staying on right so now with all those calibrated 25s we could really and you guys are a little stronger yeah so might as well do 2,000 then probably sky's the limit so at 1,000 once you start getting these calibrated plates going though it is it's different in a few ways one is because you can't take your

I think a lot of people do the 135 1855, 225, or even just the 45-pound jumps. But that completely goes out the window. And there's not really a clean way to hit that. Right. Because at a lot of weights, with this, you're just basically 25s at a plate, 25s at a plate. Here you're talking, you could have three or four extra weights on there to try and hit that. So the first day I tried. I would just do the, are they 55 is that what i'd just go 55 55 i'd just yeah so it's warm so that that's what i found out the first day i'm like damn like this takes a

lot of extra work to do this and then like if you have the kilo plates are the kilo clips and that's another thing too is the rogue set does not come with the kilo clips. As far as I know, they still don't produce. They do. Oh, they do? Yeah, I found them on the set. They're actually pretty cool looking. Okay.

How much are they? Is it $250 for the set? It's somewhere in there. But we're lucky enough that we have the Ivanko ones. We use it $250 for the pair. What the fuck more expensive. You said $250? For two of them. Yeah. For the pair. What the fuck? Are you serious? Yeah, I'm sure they are.

Yeah. That's as much as the bar. The Ivanko ones that we, you know, we were lucky to be able to buy them used, so I think I paid maybe $60 for them, but I think they're like $300 or something new, too. Yeah, that's like market, that's like standard market pricing from what I could tell. That's crazy. That still is maybe even on the low end compared to a lot of people. That hurts my feelings.

The Ivanka ones are working right now too. Okay, so this is the thing then. Were they not working? Not quite. Well, this was – I didn't – we got the plates, and there's a few things of this now is that – I can't say I'm completely right, but I feel like I'm correct on this, is there's a lot of people that don't know how to properly load plates in the kilo plate and the way i understand it is that the label the first plate the label

should always be inside yep and then every plate after that the label should be out so you should never have just flat paint on any side it should always be labels out yep i thought it was the other i thought the first one i thought all of them were in except for the last one nope you should always see labels you see yeah you see all the labels like if you have like four different okay you see all the labels on all of them but the first one you're saying inside right so inside you see it label in yeah and then all of them all the other ones are label out okay that's what i think that's what i thought which is how i because otherwise even between attempts and stuff people would

potentially have to take that plate off and turn it around right right so that's why i think that they all stack out from there so i've seen some guys and i'm sure no one cares about this and it makes zero difference but i've seen some guys already doing the things where you just have the plate sandwiched together where you can't read the labels on any sides of them yeah which totally ruins the style factor those things you gotta be you gotta be showing off what we're working with there you gotta see the label red blob yep you gotta just see and then even when you're working down to smaller plates you should see the label on every single plate you know facing out right you know loud and proud with those things but um when it comes to loading the bar also the plates are a much snugger fit than any Texas Power Bar,

any Oakey Deadlift Bar with any combination of 45s you have. These things were like, it's like a tight fit. The paint on the inside of the weight was coming off on the bar with such a snug fit. Oh, yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yes, it is a very tight fit. The inside hole of the plate,

the paint was rubbing off. There's no play there. On the sleeve of the, like requires lubricant. Damn near. Yeah. I mean, it's not something you slide off with a hand.

Like you have to make an effort to grab it evenly and pull it straight. So now do you feel for all the work that it's, yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. So then when you have that now, when you're using the kilo plate or when you're using the kilo collars i didn't realize until i was doing a little research that you can

actually once you get those on you push them on you spin the screw whatever you call it to get as tight as you can and then that those i didn't realize that the actual collars themselves kind of have a a locking mechanism in them too, where they, where they spin apart. You tighten it on and then you can, and so tighten it towards the plates. Yeah. And I think the theory behind that is like, especially in Olympic lifting, like you don't want any energy being transferred between like the plates and the bars and the lifter. So that's how that is supposed to be properly loaded. It works in there and then tighten down. When you tighten that, it really like locks those in there where there's yeah because already you know with that you can get it super tight so then to think that you could get that extra you know quarter turn out of it

or whatever yeah that's a lot so how did you loosen them up then because that one day i tried i think in like we found some i discovered some ancient secret about these avante collars and i was trying so hard to spin these apart and i couldn't do it. So I grabbed the other one and it goes pop straight apart. I'm like, oh, that was easy. Tighten it back up and I could not loosen it again. No, my secret was I just showed up one day and I was using them and I was like, oh, these work now.

So somebody else did it, I guess. Wow. Well, good for them. Our money's on Big Jason and his giant hands. He's a railroad guy. Our money's on Big Jason and his giant hands. He's a railroad guy. And he'd have been there in the morning when nobody else was there. His soft keyboard hands were not made for anything like that. So you like them, though?

I like them. It's cool. Not going to use it on everything because it's a pain in the ass sometimes. It's a lot of extra thinking. Oh, a good... I've downloaded Bar calc so i okay so this is this is what i was gonna talk about now is the calculations of this and yeah i did run across bar calc which i heard was very good i saw some screenshots for it yeah but i learned a little you know here do this let's uh let's do a little tommy mental test here let's go easy on me guys but give me a number in kilos and tanner let me tell you if I can convert that to pounds in my head.

Okay. Don't make it too hard right now. We've got to ease into this mental math thing. 240. 240, okay. 528. So should I check now? Yeah, check it.

240 times 2.205. I think I learned a little mental trick 529 so we'll take that yeah that's correct do you want to give me another one yeah how about 310 okay okay 682 683 so I'm taking it times 2.205 yeah well and'm not gonna do it perfectly i'm just trying to get in the ballpark that's within one pound most people would say if you said 320 would be like

so how about 167 like can you do it it's just harder mental math yeah i'm going to say 370? 368. That's pretty good within one or two pounds every time. Is this some sort of like witchcraft? You know,

I've been traveling a lot and I've talked to a lot of people from Europe. He just does math by 2.2 in his head now all the time. So here's the trick it's actually it's actually very simple all right and i ran across this on a reddit thread for

someone when i was looking up this bar calc i was looking for an app to to calculate this stuff and someone are yeah they're recommending bar calc and then someone goes you don't need that there's a simple math trick i thought oh a simple math trick yeah multiply by, oh, a simple math trick. Yeah, multiply by 2.2. But what you do, we'll start with 200 because it's very, very easy. You take it times 2. So we have that part done. So 200 times 2 is 400. Allegedly. And then you move the decimal point one spot over, which is a tenth.

40. And then you add that on to the number you just multiplied times 2. 440. So that's how you do it. Wait, wait, wait. I have to look at it just to see here number you just multiplied times 2. 440. So that's how you do it. Wait, wait, wait. I have to look at it just to see here what you're talking about here. So we're going to go 200 times 2, which we obviously know is 400, and you move the decimal point over.

So 200 times 2 is 400. So 1 tenth of 400 is 40 because you moved the decimal point over one spot. So you're going to add 40 onto 400. You have 440. Okay. That is how many pounds it is. 100 kilos. is 40 because you move the decimal point over one spot so you're going to add 40 onto 400 you have 440 okay that is how many pounds it is 100 so kilos so let me just use in my head so 350 just a nice even number that would be 700 yep and then so it'd be 770 yep no shit that's all there is to it pretty amazing huh the fact that it's that easy now don't you feel like how does everyone not know that here's's how I know why.

Because Americans, we are totally the fucking worst. Because we're still like, there's a trick that makes that pretty easy. And we're like, kilos are dumb. We lift in pounds. And I'm not even going to learn it. I need an app now. That is a tremendous fucking trick. And it makes a lot of sense.

Because the point, too, is it's the same. You know the same you know it gets you in a ballpark really easy so what about this though uh-huh so we have programs and stuff when we have it all printed in pounds so if you're like oh i need to load 500 500 pounds so you we know the pounds oh you can't do that yeah you know what i'm saying then like how do you do that in reverse oh to get yeah you know what i'm saying well you could i mean just take 50 off of 500 divide it by two it would be easy 500 minus 50 is 450 450 divided by two is 225 225 kilo i mean so you subtract the i would imagine because if you're going in reverse. Because that would be almost the more practical application. Because we know I'm supposed to squat 445.

So what do I need to load for the plates? So you take 45, so it would be 400. Where I find this to be handy, though, is when you listen to – the podcast I find they do it the most on is The Jug Life. They're always talking – because they talk about Olympic lifting a lot, they're always talking in kilos. And they're like – the one I was just listening to, I think today, was they were talking about how Olympic weightlifting needs to get its act together

or they're going to potentially be the age of the next Olympics. And they talk about how the women had an 89- class added like a year or two ago and it's like is 89 big for what is it but with that you know that's what i would normally do but now i'm just like 89 that's basically 90 90 times 2 is 180 180 plus 18 that's about 200 pounds yeah we have about a 200 pound woman before i would have just went no don't know i'm like it's somewhere between 160 and 300 pounds yeah and so and so clean and jerked 200 i mean i guess 200 200 is not the hardest but they say somewhere it's like 196 like i don't know yeah yeah like even though you know that it's close to 200 i don't even get there i'm like that's impossible yeah so it's like that makes i feel like you could actually follow conversations way better, or at least

have a frame of reference. But instead what we're going to do when people are talking about kilos is we're going to just tune out until they convert it for us. That's a great trick, Tommy. I'm glad you learned something. I kind of felt like a little we all learned something today. That's literally the only thing

that you can learn today. You guys, just wait. You'll be surprised. Remember that trick. You'll be using that more than you would think. Not me. I have the bar cowl cap. This episode is brought to you by the bar cowl cap.

If you use the bar cowl cap, you do not have to know Tommy's trick at all. I think they're saying Marissa Endo is like a 46 kilo lifter yeah like so she's tiny it's like 99 pounds yeah i was like is that like 120 pounds 130 pounds but like you know you do the math on it and you find out that that's like what 106 or something i still don't know i already forgot i actually don't even know what a hundred i don't even know what a hundred pound person would look like. Her dead. Like just in, like in standing in a room,

be like, I don't know what that is. What is that thing? Is that a child? So we are about wrapping up here, Tanner. I've got one point of clarification from last time. Oh,

we talked about platinum plus. I know what that means now. Okay. Oh yeah. And the platinum plus is a strongman competition classification really like um also it's just like on the road to pro it's also it's also um delta's third tier with that's what we talked about but it a class one is as long as there's at least five people in each weight classification, sex and weight classification, a class one will send the number one from each class will get sent to qualify for nationals. Okay.

And then beyond class two is a class, it's a platinum plus where the top three all qualify for nationals and someone can potentially qualify for the Arnold strong man, not the main stage Arnold strong man, but the, uh, like the Arnold amateur. Yeah. The Arnold amateur.

So that's what a platinum plus is. And I, I believe I know that's fact what I just said. And I believe that, um, as opposed to the other things that Tanner said. Everything else I've ever said. Like what we said last week was all made up.

Yeah. And then I think based on what, which of those it is, determines the level of weights that the competitors use in the competition. And the reason I know is because I did sign up for that competition that, I want to say the name of it because I like the name of the competition. Enough to remember it? Well, not that much. I like it.

It's a good name. Yeah. It's the Rushmore State Strength Classic. So it's a class two, which the one Megan did was also a class two. So the top two got sent to nationals from each class. But once I saw it was advertised as a class two. Hey, if you do it, you should go to nationals just to do it. Well, I would have to get first or second first.

Well, yeah. No, you should do that. That is not an option. You must. You should do that, though, and then you should go to nationals because we're going to go. It's possible. Like I said, I would have to. Well, yeah. Some of these things are pretty. No, I'm saying, well, and then you should go to Nationals, because we're going to go. It's possible. Like I said, I would have to. Some of these things are pretty.

No, I'm saying, well, yeah, you need to win it. Yeah, or get second. Well. Class two. We don't accept. I prefer. Less than first. But I'm doing 265 and under, so it's a little lighter strongman corpus.

Well, but there's no weight classes in the jungle, though. No weight classes in the jungle. Not in our jungle, but I guess these clowns. This is the woods, not the jungle. They're not in the jungle, though. No weight classes in the jungle. Not in our jungle, but I guess these clowns. This is the woods, not the jungle. They're not in the jungle with us. But the day that this comes out, I will have just finished this competition. So when is this? In third place.

Not this weekend, but the weekend after that. Oh, okay. Out in Rapid? Yeah. Nice. Yes, Rapid City, the Black Hills of South Dakota, as covered earlier in this episode. If you want to celebrate and jump off a large rock,

I can point you in that direction. I am not ever, I can honestly say I will never do what you did there. I don't have. I would die. There's like a 50% chance I would die. I'm sure of it. And if not die, I would certainly hurt something. Tanner and I, because of our just general, just overall bigness,

I'm afraid of everything that requires me to move fast like like those water slides where you go like straight down i went to the water slide at the pool that you were talking about last episode yeah or maybe we're maybe it was off air but which one is the one you go down i went down the yellow one all heels and shoulder blades and that just grind them up And you just grind them up? That is fast. No, if you don't have your whole body on it, you don't get chipped up too bad. But you just ride your heels and shoulder blades. And it spits you out and you about flip over when you come out of the water? Oh, yeah, I like that.

When you're my size, I come out of that fucking thing and the lifeguard is at the end of it. And no joke, I watch them as I'm coming coming up they're still moving away because there's so much fucking water comes flying out see i remembered your advice about the heels and things so the first time i went that i went down i was thinking all right i'm not going to do that like i'm going to control how fast i go down this you know like some slides you can like sit up and go slow and i went down and the neck and i never like could never catch my breath once. And the next thing I knew, I was spat out the end of it. And I looked back up and like, man, that took like a split second.

I have gotten thrown out of that thing. I'll try to get some momentum coming into it. But the problem is it's actually not very big. So you hang on to the thing and you you throw yourself in and then by the time you bring your arms in you're like touching both sides of the fucking tube because it's a tube slide you know and uh yeah you say tube you mean enclosed i mean it's not you're not on a tube but it is a it's a tunnel yeah um yeah that was pretty gnarly but no so those you know those straight down like water slides where you just go

and then you 90-degree angle at the bottom and you can just get water up your asshole. Like, I'm afraid of those things. Yeah, I got two bidets. I ain't scared of that. But, like, I'm afraid of those because there's that moment where you feel like you're going to come forward. Oh, yeah, it's like you just put your leg out. But I'm like, these are not meant for 315-pound dudes.

Like, there's no way that they were testing it with 315 pound dudes. they're like sending like 80 pound dummies down. Especially with my level of top heaviness. You know, like,

like, like if I get a little forward lean, I'm fucking just boom, straight down that fucking thing. And so,

so I don't do them at all. Like I've done them when I was a kid and they scared the shit out of me. I'm quite positive your body comes like completely out of contact. Oh yeah for sure like that's they

shouldn't make those they can't be there's no way they should be making just like the rules of gravity say like usually you're gonna be okay yeah and i feel the same way on the sidewalls of them i feel like like make like laughably low give us like three foot fucking like plastic is cheap man like give me a little bit to work with like it's like a two inch sidewall i i feel the same way on water or on roller coasters too where i'll get in i've gotten in some where i'll get in and you know they strap the thing down it's like and then and it has to get to a point where it starts like the ratchet and it won't do it and then i I'm like, fuck. Just send him. So I get hunkered down really

low on the shoulders. And then the guy comes to help and he's like, gives it like five nudges. And it's like some kid making the dumb wage and he doesn't care. And finally, he's like leaning totally hard and I'm pulling it and it just goes. And then he gives the guy the thumbs up and we go and I'm like, wait.

How do you know? That was one tiny, it's only just connecting on the first lap. No, nothing else to catch it. And I'm like, dude, do you think we can get one more? Do you think we can get one more out of this thing? And then you just fucking go

and the whole time I'm thinking, all I think of is because of my size when I do those roller coasters, I'm thinking that I'm going to actually fucking die. I'm going to get thrown out of the thing. We're going to have an equipment failure, which is like the thrill and fun of a roller coaster is gone. Cause you're,

but isn't that what the thrill is all about? No, the thrill is supposed to be, you're safe. You're moving fast. It's wild. Look at how you're going. And I'm like hanging on to her.

Like, so when this thing flips out do i have the grip strength to hold my entire body that's what i think while i'm upside down going 70 miles an hour i've actually done it where i'm like i'll get in and i'll like grip the fucking handle and i'm like just in case you chalk up before you do it too i should tacky yeah but uh, that's how I feel about such things. So Tanner,

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