Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 8: How Often Should You Be Training?

Episode Date: May 31, 2016

 This week we talk about training frequency... and a little bit of lawn care..  How much is necessary? How much is too much? Training... not lawn care.  Give it a listen, LIKE us on Facebook, give us a 5 star rating on iTunes, and make sure to share it and tell your friends if you think it's awesome.  And if you think it's not awesome, probably keep that to yourself.....   Or tell your friends that it's awesome anyways.

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and I mentioned that we were podcasting today just to see if I could get anyone to say anything, and I haven't yet. I saw it. It was just a few minutes ago. We actually are recording now. Actually, yeah, so if you are listening, that is something that we would like to start doing more often is getting some feedback from you guys.

I'd like to finish off almost every episode with a little bit of Q&A. It doesn't have to be intelligent by any means either. It's not. Preferably, it almost shouldn't be. It would be almost odd if it was. But yeah yeah it would be really cool to have basically even you know i have a there's a few podcasts i listen to where basically the the last you know 10 minutes is like a speed round of when we have guests it'll be a little more interesting there'll be more to talk about and maybe people might be interested in hearing what they have to say as opposed to us but uh yeah so here we are in the massonomic studio it's a nice beautiful sunday monday is

the day you're listening to us on but um um yeah it's a great day to be trapped inside it's a great day to be golfing it looks like outside everyone's kind of hitting the links out here i actually i just i just spent the morning mowing the lawn this morning and had like the most horrific first world problems too where like the lawnmower wouldn't start, second lawnmower wouldn't start. Are we talking rider or push? The rider started, so I got all the big stuff done. Best advice I could ever give anybody, you know, when you're younger,

you envision you want to buy a house with a big yard and wait until you have enough money to buy the house with a big yard and can also afford to pay somebody to mow the yard. Because if you only have one, you end up having the yard and then spending all your time mowing it. I'm currently going through some mowing fiascos of my own. I had a mower die out on me right at the end of last season, and so I made it maybe two or three weeks using someone else's

until it was done, and now I'm back at that dilemma of needing to mow and not having a mower and then the problem is only worse when you have a car because you can't haul anything in a car so that it creates the whole issue there and it's it's tough it's a real struggle yeah this is actually the hardest problems that we deal with here but uh no so today what i think we're going to talk about today is a little bit of uh like training frequency um i thought we were doing lawn care and lawn care massonomics lawn care podcast um so i finally like turned the corner and put my foot down and trying to figure out what i'm gonna do or try to do training wise and um so i just said fuck it and i signed up for an olympic weightlifting competition in like 11 weeks and paid money for some online coaching and programming

and said that's what i'm going to do now so i'm just going to do that at least up to that and through that and see what that's like and uh and only three or four days of that training program in and i am just totally fucking smashed you've started it you started it yeah i started it like right away wednesday and um so what's the uh what's the kind of the groundwork of this program look like so the the program itself is you know it's it's weird because i didn't realize until the very first day that i got on it that i had never snatched and clean and jerked on the same day, which if you're training to compete is almost something that you should definitely be doing

all the time, you know, cause you, you're always going to be the same day. Yeah. You're always going to do it in a competition. And, um, you know, since it's a technical, obviously from a strength standpoint, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's's the the skill and muscle memory is the reason you have to be be able to do them both um but yeah man i was just beat up the the framework itself is for me i'm not in the like advanced or like competitive lifter version of theirs they have like four tiers and i'm not in the basic one basically i'm just just past that one where people have been kind of doing it about a year is where and um i almost regret picking that level cause I was just totally, totally smoked. It's just heavy. And, um, yeah, I thought I was going to die. So I got, uh, I got through all of that

and today's my off day. And so like the, the soreness is just creeping in. And, uh, so I think I'm going to try and like get on the rower for a while this afternoon and get the blood pumping. What, what is the split like then? Or how many days a week is it typically? Basically it looks like Sundays are the off day. Um, and, and Thursdays are the off day. Um, Fridays are essentially, um, like mobility work and then you max out every Friday. But you're also, when I was

looking at it, you're also kind of maxing out during the week a lot too. So you're kind of building it where you feel comfortable. So you'll build up to like 75% and then every minute you'll be hitting whatever you can build to comfortably. So you may get to and beyond your max on a day that you just feel good, but you might be doing stuff like that for 20 minutes and doing 20 singles at your 85, 90% of your max is pretty gnarly. Um, but what,

what I want to know is like you guys obviously train with a lot less, you know, like direct stimulation for a lot less frequently than that yeah definitely you know what what is it what does a training week look like for you guys well i guess our both of ours are pretty similar but most of us don't lift that much more than three days a week we we usually get it in in three days three lifting days uh some days i do four we've got probably we're probably split between the power lifters in our gym that lift either three or four days a week and we don't have anyone that does really much more than that but maybe i don't know

if anyone does yeah maybe a couple people that do five but i personally you know used to do like five or six several years ago, and there's no way in hell that I could do that now. I feel like I would feel miserable every day when I'm there because sometimes even when I go to four days a week, I can feel the difference in that where I'm just kind of conditioned to three. I guess if I stuck with more frequency for a while, maybe you could condition yourself into it too,

but I like three days a week week three or four days a week yeah that's kind of where i'm at too it's three seems to be a good balance between just feeling fresh every time you go in and then also having the power to get something done and then having a life on top of it makes yeah that's probably my biggest struggles it's just yeah the balance of lifting and a social life and work and just things you have to do it's i could probably fit another day in but it would be tough sometimes just to keep everything in check there and like and with your programming would you what would if you plugged another day in what is where what exactly would that look like anyways well the the way that uh kind of the basic concept that we go by is a squat day, a bench day, and a deadlift day.

You know, and actually the order of ours is more so deadlift on Monday. And then we also are doing front squatting usually and maybe cleaning. And then what are some of the other accessories? Front squatting, maybe some cleaning, some deficits. Yeah. Some rows of some kind. Yep. A lot of times the some kind. Yep, yep.

A lot of times the Monday day. Yep. And then Wednesday, usually most of us would bench. And with that, our accessory stuff would be maybe some extra tricep work. Sometimes maybe another chest, you know, after the traditional bench, maybe an incline or a dumbbell or a floor press. And then just some arm and accessory shoulder stuff and then friday would be our squat day so we'd heavy squat and what do we do along

with some overhead press yeah got that log now so we've been mixing in some log presses yeah so we do like and like a speed bench on that day too yep so that's kind of how we do it but people that you know people that train with more of like a conjugate approach or a West side, they're, uh, usually a four day a week and they are basically max effort and speed, a max effort, upper body day, a max effort, lower body day, and then a speed of each also. So that's a pretty common power lifting four day split is each max effort and each speed um we don't really necessarily do that but with our accessories that we our accessory lifts that we get you kind of get to do speed work on the variations okay interesting yeah it's see

coming from like starting in with the crossfit stuff is it's like you just go and you go and there's so much variation to where it wasn't i don't know you're always doing something it's always doing something different so you can go like you know i was you know i go five days a week and so this will be the first first week for me where it's like i'm just kind of in the corner doing my thing over there and and it's it'll be interesting to see see how goes. You kind of get, I was talking to my wife about this earlier, you get almost conditioned to think that you have to like be blowing it out and breathing so hard you're going to throw up to be getting fit or just accomplishing something.

And I don't remember who it was that said it, but it said, you know, more isn't better, just better is better. And that's kind of what, but one of the things I was looking at though, with a lot of almost all these Olympic weightlifting programs of all the ones I sifted through was that almost all of them have you squatting, you know, four or five times a week. You know, it's, that's, that, that is, they just plug a ton of that volume in there. Most in that case, almost all of them are front squats, but, um um so i just figured if that's what i wanted to get better at i'm just gonna i'm gonna do that program and do that thing and are you still doing them like the crossfit workouts of the day then no what did you what does the coach say about that about doing that other stuff do they care

no no he's pretty cool about it and and and you know and from where he's at too is um he's only been doing this a few years doing the crossfit thing a couple three years so there's some there's just people that have been doing olympic weightlifting for um 20 30 years that are still learning so um where i'm at is i just want to learn what the hell i should be doing i don't even know what an Olympic lifting training session looks like. So that's why I got on this program. And what I'm doing is through John North, used to be the USAW champ.

He offers the programming. It's him and Jared Enderton and Glenn Penlay, who used to coach for Muscle Driver USA. And it's their program, and it's, I don't know, it's a pretty sweet deal. Like, I've't know it's pretty sweet deal like I've never done any online programming have you guys done it no it's something that I I think would be really cool to try common we've talked about it a lot too there's a lot of different there's some people I have my eye on that I would be interested in trying that with sometime but

and it's it's neat for from the Olympic lifts because there's so much movement and so much like nuance to it that i just you know you need eyes on it you know and it is a little hard doing it this way where you're submitting videos and waiting but i really only wait it's like less than 12 hours and i get a whole deal back where they've like slowed down or screenshotted the video exactly where this like all right dude you're pretty cool your hips come forward here when you're dipping for your jerk you got to keep this knees got to be wide you know and full breakdown and then some of the things you get back or i was a little worried that all i was going to do is submit the stuff and then get just shit on yeah you know it was going to be like dude you suck this this just a laundry list of things but i think they kind of

take the the lowest hanging fruit the things that need to be addressed right away and it's not all critical you know i was had some issues with my starting position and the snatch felt really weak and i couldn't wasn't pulling off the floor very well and i said you know i just mentioned it when i submitted the video and you know i got basically a world-class coach who I have a lot of respect for saying, now, dude, start position looks great. I'm like, well, fucking A. Must be all right, though.

So that's good. But, yeah, so I don't know what – now it seems like online programming is a huge thing, though. For sure, yeah. It seems like now everybody on Instagram is offering programs. Yeah, that's probably another thing. If anyone interested in doing it, I would do a little bit of homework on that and find someone pretty reputable because you can get anyone to do that for you.

Yeah, I would think you'd really want to check the resin. I mean, with the internet, it's so easy to get a back on. Like, has this person competed? Have they actually, you know, do they have serious credentials in this industry or are they just a big instagram personality right yeah and instagram's like the worst because there's so many fitness accounts there now it's a rabbit hole once you start going down and liking or like following fitness accounts

all of a sudden you have yeah it's the it's it's freaking terrible i there's so many people on there they're like you know it looks like it's just a regular housewife. It's like, selling my new shoulder program. It's like a shoulder program. It seems to me like they're just printing money with that stuff too, though. That I don't understand how that works. Who are your guys' favorite couple follows on Instagram of people that actually have good info or

that are entertaining or whatever? I mean, I really like to follow Mark Bell and Silent Mike. They have some good stuff. And then just as far as just raw training videos, Dan Green always has good stuff. The Lily Bridges and

Pete Rubish too. It's hard to not get jacked up when you watch this stuff going psycho on whatever he's doing those are kind of my favorites yeah i like all those guys i also like as a guy that's still really strong but also just doing stupid shit all the time is tom finn oh yeah tom yeah he's been barbed wire squatting on rollerblades or walking out of squat all the way outside of the building that's the guy i saw i i do follow him i think he's always he did like some some beer yeah yeah 500 pound bench with beer or he did one where what was he doing he was in the back of a fucking pickup truck yeah he was in the back of a truck and and driving down the road uh-huh while

bench pressing it was like four or five hundred pounds yeah you know i liked his uh how i do cardio and he's wearing a singlet with roller skates on just standing on a treadmill one other guy that i like too he's that the you know he's a lot more serious i counted be bryce lewis yeah who's a us apl lifter you know natural lifter and i think he was a national champs this last year wasn't he i think so i know he's right in there competing for it if he is or you know whether he does or doesn't but i think so in his weight class i think yesterday i want to say yesterday i saw he had a video on it doing like a 765 and it looked almost effortless for him yep but his like he's really into excel and like

a lot of technical things and it seems like he's got a lot for just about anyone to learn from yeah i think they're like there's a big there's a lot of guys out there that are just insanely strong just just just are strong just yeah yeah just there's no way but it doesn't i mean technique always helps but you could tell them to change their technique. They're going to make it happen just because they're so strong. But then you can tell the guys. There's also guys that are very strong and on top of that, very, very, very technical. And I think those are the people that you want to learn from. They're the ones that are really analyzing it and figuring out what makes it all happen.

Have you guys seen or do you follow that account? It's called Squat University. Have you ever seen anything on that? I haven't. I don't think so't think so i came i came across it it's the guys i think i'm gonna botch the name i want to say it's like dr aaron horshing or something like that but it's it's at squat university on instagram and i follow him on facebook too and it is like super comprehensive like really it's some of the best information they they do like full-on blog articles but it'll be like complete in-depth information and it is literally all squat stuff like you know from knees to hip to glute engagement to people are doing this people are doing that like just yeah i that's

an account that i i would highly recommend everyone to follow for sure and he's not paying me i actually i actually contacted him a while back via email and did not hear back so if you do decide to follow squat university you should tell him where he found out put the massonomics bug in his ear and tell him to email me back but no i'm not really sure what his background is but it's like i mean the guy really really knows his stuff. The other people I follow, well, now it's basically the reason I picked the program that I did is Jared Enderton. He has some really, really exceptional coaching stuff for the Olympic weightlifts. And the other one for Olympic lifting I follow is MASH Elite Performance, which is Travis MASH, former powerlifter now he coaches I think he's coaching the junior Pan Am team the USA team here this last weekend and they turned out pretty well I think they had

a couple guys sweep silver a couple guys sweep bronze so he knows his stuff and that's a good a good group to follow that's if I went through my instagram list that i do follow it's like yeah there's just a ton of them what about not you guys got to have a few like favorites that are not lifting related though don't you i think i do or just accounts in general and there's some real there's some real gems out there i i tell you what i do have one more weightlifting one, though. Let's just talk more about weightlifting. It's a weightlifting. It used to be at Nike Weightlifting, and he got some real grief from Nike, obviously. Nike in their deep pockets.

But he does a lot of, it's all just like kind of shit talking videos, you know, and it's pretty over the top. But he basically farms, you know, rakes in all the weirdest videos of people doing just the dumbest shit. And it's weightlifting, I think it's weightlifting please or PLS. And that's kind of my go-to for a good weightlifting based laugh. But what about you guys? for a good weightlifting based laugh but um what about you guys i i haven't been following this account real long but it is kind of turning into one of my one of my favorites it's hood clips just keeps you in the loop on all the memes and internet culture and it's just uh there's a lot of really funny stuff on there that once it's almost daily there's one that get together with

your friends and we have to laugh about it because it's just so stupid so that one's pretty good the other one we like a lot is uh what's it oh there's actually i think it's like a highlights like a sports highlights one which is actually pretty decent too it almost kind of covers like your sports center you don't even need to worry about watching tv because the highlights are all right there in front of your face yeah and you can get you can get them all in 15 seconds oh yeah yeah if it's any longer than that it doesn't matter yeah yeah so that one's actually it's a pretty good format for something like that how about what is the story now on the 60 second videos can that happen i haven't done the research on that either i saw 45 mark bell had a 45 second one on there and i meant to google that yeah because i've noticed a lot more just people in

general even even with these like i wonder if you have to have like so many followers or something i'm not sure what it is that's like a premium what i had read was that they were just going to do it and that that i think it was iphone was going to get it first and then it was i mean but event you know that everybody's going to get to be able to do 60 second videos. So I keep looking to update. Are iPhone 3's going to get it? No. Yours is going to crash. Does yours show play counts on it yet? I did get that.

Tanner's rocking an old iPhone 4 over here. It's like an antique. Anytime there's these auto updates, he's the very last to get the auto update. Tanner's phone is still a 3G phone and if you guys remember back when back when 3g was a you know a real thing the actual thing before it was retired 3g meant you waited a little bit to watch a video but now everything's so fast so relatively what

3g means now is you don't have the fucking internet basically that's where I sit crippled by a hard drive you could play a 60 second video no I don't have I don't have that kind of capacity it's great for recording movies and then deleting instantly afterwards that's it's funny at the gym when I you know I like to record my form or someone else's but I can really

only have one video at a time on my phone anymore so I have to pick and choose if I want to take one more video at a time on my phone anymore. So I have to pick and choose. If I want to take one more video, I have to find one to delete. Oh Jesus. So they can make something better. Yeah. It's not like,

it's not like a new cell phone. It doesn't get rolled out every single year. It's an improvement. I'm waiting to battery life. Battery life is just so good. You can't give it up. I call it my landline because you essentially have to be plugged in every hour or so that you use my favorite thing about that is if you think back to all of the new things that you've bought since

you bought that phone yeah 2011 i purchased this i mean the world was completely different when that thing came out it was as a species the human races came so far just since that phone i look at it like every every sunday when i'm cooking meals i'll go through and i'll be cooking food for the whole week and i have two two big pots that are just dog shit terrible everything sticks to them you burn everything yeah my wife and i've had those pots since before we were married it's been so nine and a half years we've had those pots, and I haven't replaced those two pots. I bought a couple of houses.

I've bought a handful of different vehicles. I've upgraded all sorts of things, and I have yet to replace two stinking pots. It drives me insane every time I use them. That's my New year's resolution for next year by the first of the year i'm gonna get new pots to start a savorous gift ideas so um but yeah so now that we're fully derailed so back to back to like training frequency you guys you know and with the amount of accessory you you gotta do like how long does it take you guys in a

gym you know per day like a lifting session yeah yeah if i'm really focused from the time i walk in the door to the time i get out is you it can be about an hour 15 minutes or so that's if i'm really focused and just not really taking any breaks but um if i'm going at a pace where i really feel like i want to recover fully between sets and maybe start talking and socializing a little bit it's it's two hours yeah and that's why i i like to i just i like to warm up for so long like it just to like i call it like greasing the wheels or like getting the shoulders or the knees or the hips feeling okay it takes me a while or i that's what I do so I'm used to that now and it also gives me some time to get ready for it mentally so it's like two hours just about no matter what

yeah and that's see I'm just kind of stuck in that where I've tried to jam everything into those one hour crossfit classes so you know I do the prescribed work, that work volume, and I'm done. So now when I'm trying to do my weightlifting program, I'm in there and I got to go in there earlier. And I end up spanning that time gap where one class starts, one class ends, another class starts. And I'm finding that it's really, really difficult for the, at least with the Olympic weightlifting, to focus.

Like, I find, if I'm just squatting and there's people moving around, walking around, talking on the other side of the room, it doesn't really affect me that much. I can, you can, all you're doing is pushing. You know, it seems to me. But if I'm, you know, the other day I was trying to do, we're basically building to one rep match snatches and it takes some time to get up there because I'll fall apart at 70% of my max five times before I get it together and then move up and move up and move up.

And class finally gets to where they're doing their workout of the day, so the music's loud, nobody's moving around, they're all over there, and then things start clicking to me. The music's loud, I can focus, step in, just blank mind and fling the weight and do it. And it went great for 15 minutes. And I built up to, you know, I hit 225 and then was going to hit it one more time before I went heavier. Class, that workout got over, people start moving around and I'm just in the corner and and i missed that same exact weight seven consecutive times before i hit it again and i think i'm blaming everybody

else for moving it around and not me but um but yeah so i'm thinking i'm gonna have to do a lot more training at home basically um or we're gonna have to stuff a platform in the corner of the massonomics gym but that's the problem i've got is i can't jerk in my garage i can't go overhead with the jerk um or i'll buy some drywall um or i can set up drag my platform out in the middle of the cul-de-sac and i've actually right outside here looking at the the patio is actually really level and i've honestly thought about dragging some mats out there and doing it out there and it would be fun when it's nice out yeah it would be pretty cool so that's kind of where i'm at with that i don't know what i'm gonna do but i'm just gonna i don't know i'm gonna do the work they tell me to do and find a way to make it work and see if hopefully i can get get better in the next 11

weeks so where's the meat at the meat's up in fargo which it's running it's actually usaw meat which basically means it just costs more money because you got to buy your USAW membership is that is that kind of the arm of the Olympics yeah yeah USAW is the basically the only avenue you have to get to the Olympics you know if you're competing the the other one is um there's AWF which is actually john north when he left the usaw is now kind of with awf but you won't get you know if you want to go to the olympics you got to go to usaw it's kind of the main place um not like that's on my radar but i suppose that you're doing that one because it was in a time frame that you wanted and at a place that you could get to.

Exactly. There was one in Minneapolis and then there was one in Fargo. And those were my only two options short of having to go really far away. And I figured I'd like to keep the first one close. So I got to order a singlet, which is going to be sweet. First time in a singlet. We talked about that too. You know, with our sing singlets in USAPL,

they're kind of sticklers about what's on there exactly. What are the rules as far as that goes? Well, I think at a state level, it doesn't matter as much. But I think if you're in any type of national competition, everything you do has to be under the approved vendor sponsor list. Is it Titan? So yeah yeah there's titan titan is spd and probably slingshot yeah probably your only three that you're allowed to

wear so you can't you can't even buy a i think if you have like an adidas singlet that has the adidas logo on it that would i don't maybe not even work yeah i don't think you'd be allowed to wear that at a national like my singlet has the big massonomics m on the front of it and every year at the state one it's always even like a little bit iffy uh and i just kind of try to shuffle it through and they're you know the first year they're like well we'll allow it here but if you were uh you know at the national level or something that wouldn't fly do you have a spare that you bring in case they really bust you up about the first year i did because i had no idea if I was actually going to get to wear it or not really. So I did have a spare that I had bought from off of Amazon and left in the package.

And then I was like, oh, if I don't use it, I'm just going to send it back. So I sent it back. So this year at the USAPL meet, I didn't have a spare. So I was going to play that card, just be like, well, you let me wear it last year, and this is all I got. I sent the other one back. It's your fault. It's on you now. Could you turn it inside out if you had to?

Yeah, I don't know. I suppose that would be. I just want to wear it. I don't want to explore any other options. I haven't been in a singlet since i wrestled in when i was 15 14 years old so just remember some tube socks yeah it's all about the illusion so yeah that'll be uh that that'll be. My wife actually is going to do the competition too. So, um, don't tell the people that I pay the programming for, but she's also doing the

same program. She just doesn't get to submit any videos, but, um, so she's gonna, she's gonna try that too. And we'll see if our, our marriage can handle training on this program together. Um, everything is a test, but yeah. So I guess another thing I wanted to touch on is i'm sure you guys have seen it i know a lot of the people that i talked to have seen um people talk about like the squat every day thing um my understanding i've done quite a bit of actual research into

like the documentation that people have done you know a lot of um mainly cory gregory's stuff that he's done on it and travis mash started doing it as well and he's got an ebook out on it um and by the ebook i just read like lots of his articles on the product because ebooks like 50 which i will not spend 50 for a book that i can't hold but um basically you're squatting every day you're doing a lot of variation and you're maybe not always doing the exact same thing and it's not a ton of volume as much as it is just frequency what are your guys's thoughts on that do you know anyone personally who's messed with something like that or no I don't know anyone personally that has done it i guess from a power lifting standpoint

you couldn't you couldn't do low bar heavy back squat every day but you could i could see some benefit to it with the variation and you know you just have to you'd have to be pretty mindful of your overall volume i think um but like a heavy low bar power lifting back squat is and i'm not even talking about your legs but just like your shoulders and your elbows and your wrists and like everything else that's going to get kind of beat up from that i think it would just it just wrecks you yeah it would just you would just be broken from it yeah and i you know i haven't done it personally but i guess the two variations of squat i get in on different days are front squat and back squat and so there's two days a week which definitely isn't a lot but um kind of hearing other people's input

on it from a power lifting thing is let's just say you do increase the frequency a lot on your squat is your squat going to go up probably yeah which it should i mean you're spending that much more time with it are your other lifts going to suffer? Like are you having a deadlift left off? Yeah, or maybe plateau. Like there's a good chance with it. And then the other thing to be conscious of is typically with powerlifting, you are handling heavy loads and just it increases chances for injury and your longevity in the sport.

So could you squat every day for a couple of years or close to every day for a couple of years? Probably. At the end of those couple of years years are you going to have a did you go through some injuries and have like can you bench press anymore if you wanted to bench press or yeah like is your total gonna go up yeah it's just it turns into maybe a longevity thing and just safety as a lifter like small of uh that training protocol you squat really, you know, that's a power lifting protocol and you squat really frequently. You know, I don't know if it's like four or five days a week or if, you know, it's almost every day. But, and people say you can build your squat up quite a bit from that, but then their knock is, you know, you're sacrificing maybe some benching or some deadlifting.

Yeah, because it's so focused on that. maybe some benching or some deadlifting yeah it's so it's so focused on that and that's especially when people start to get to these higher levels they talk about how big the the natural power lifters once you get to a certain level you basically have to focus on one lift at a time you won't go through periods of over this well over this 12 weeks all my lifts went up 10 pounds it's no your bench and deadlift probably stayed almost the same and maybe you got 10 pounds on your squat if you're lucky you do have to start to just take them one at a time so you probably have to be kind of goal oriented to like figuring out what what the purpose is what your purpose is of what you're doing before you start doing it yeah well i just saw today too um

brandon lilley had posted a video where he was talking about that as well yeah he's been squatting like yeah he said what he had done it though was for um for him he said it how did he word it it was like it will not increase most likely and it will for a while but once you get to kind of an elite level squatting every day is not going to push that number your number you're not going to get from 830 pounds to 840 pounds by squatting every day but you can sure as hell get from a 400 pound squat to a 500 pound squat by doing that but what he what he said he uses it for is with um when he was recovering and when he couldn't go so heavy he was able to still work out at a lower volume and be more familiar in those positions and that's what he said was the key was

being familiar in that position in the hole with weight on you and you build that way and the you know that's that's a lot of the key to getting uh confidence back when you're recovering i think something like that makes a lot of sense you know because it is basically how that sounds is suboptimal training or you know submaximal training i should say yeah and uh yeah it's just you know getting your body back to those those patterns and that movement and that technique and after you just kind of drilled it back into your head then you can finally start putting some more weight on and going from there i think from a mobility standpoint too this might not be what you're referring to but i like to even at least body weight squat a little like getting in the squat

position every day is a good thing to to do you know and that's what he said he would do trying to think of how he did it it was he'd do like his he'd have his well it was kind of the um like the cube method but it would be a little bit of um you know regular like a light and then it would be a variation and then it would be a heavy um and then he would add in a um like a session with pauses but he would do like really aggressive pauses like eight ten second pauses where get down in the bottom hold it and then just be there and he said for um his knees and hips just being in that position under load was was key um and i i think i i don't know i'd seen things on that for the last six or eight months and it always was interesting to me and everybody i saw had

had good results and it was all good squatters that were doing it but it also wasn't world record holders either you know um so but like i said if you're gonna do anything any day there's a price to pay and it's gonna probably come at your at the expense of your other lifts one of the things i had heard about um i actually just listened back to this episode probably two weeks ago um you know we were talking about how you know you're you do have to focus on one lift and push one lift forward um i think it was episode 17 of barbell shrug they were saying it like almost anything that you're trying to do in strength is a matter of spinning plates you know if you if you're going to put on a talent show and you got five plates you're

spinning at some point you got to go to one plate and you got to spin that son of a bitch fast and then you go to the other plate and spin you know but if you're trying to put your hands on every plate at every time you're going to lose all of them yeah you know or at least nothing special is going to happen so so that's kind of where we're at with uh with the squat everyday thing at least is that the official massonomics position like try it but maybe don't try it yeah very unofficial looking from the outside yeah my opinion is my just five second opinion is it's not for me but you know it might serve a good purpose for someone so maybe maybe one of these days we'll have a member of the gym who's interested in it yeah and if you are um saddle up to it and we'll

uh we'll definitely like i'd like to document somebody doing it and just see what it's like um but i sure as hell don't think i can handle it so you're tough so well i i think that's going to do it for us this week guys i did get one question in you did what do we got this uh this question comes from grayson and it says uh when do yoga classes start at an astronomics gym actually it's funny you ask i don't think we're gonna have probably an official yoga class that's recurring but we do have something that we're working on trying to get um we're gonna have somebody come in and there might be one yoga class there will there will be one yoga class for sure it might even be an annual thing maybe if it works well enough that's maybe

we'll have a once a year yoga class a Just to keep it. A yoga-thon. Do you remember what her name is? Yeah, Lindsay. Lindsay. Lindsay's going to come down, and she's going to run us through a bit of a yoga session. We're going to try and get her on the podcast here. We're also going to videotape.

Yeah, it's going to be funny. It's going to be funny. Because we're not going to be good at it. So we're going to have her subject us to a little bit of torture and then we're going to get her in on the podcast and she can talk about how terrible we are at it and what we can do to get better and how all that's going to help us getting strong so yeah grace and we there actually will be a yoga class that's a legit thing um there may not be a spin class anytime soon but there's going to be a yoga class for sure yep um well thanks for submitting that's that's actually our first yeah yeah we appreciate that

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