Massenomics Podcast - Ep.107: What the F**k Did We Talk About?

Episode Date: April 23, 2018

This week, the fellas sit down and cover all of  the most important, science-based, serious and political issues in the world of strength and conditioning. What more would you expect from such a high-brow, sophisticated podcast as this one?

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I'm Tyler, joined as always with Tommy. What's up? And across the way, Tanner. Hey. Hey. Bringing the enthusiasm. Hey, guys. I'd like to welcome to the main stage, Rebecca.

Rebecca. And then your favorite Korn song starts playing. Yes. Is that how it goes? I've never been in such a sad place. I've just heard things. Do you guys remember all the way back to when we flew to the Arnold? Barely.

And how the TSA guy called me out. My driver's license was expired. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I finally got around to like, it's not that I was. I mean, I was purposely avoiding taking care of this issue because I was dreading what from the government taking more of your money. Well, I was dreading what it meant. I just didn't even want to find out what I needed to do in order to get this quick backstory for people.

When we went to the Arnold and Tanner was going through airport security, the security guard said, Hey sir, your driver's license expired once ago, which then the next thing in my head is first is we're not going to get, he's not going to get to go on this fucking plane. And then I'm like, fucking Tanner.

You're the only one of us who's a responsible adult but luckily it was just and that was of course what i was worried about at first too and but he's just like oh it doesn't matter i mean just don't try to see it like he's like yeah he's like i can see it it's just expired yeah what's funny is that is allowed by tsa except one time at the bar here yeah local bar yeah i went to the bar i was 26 yeah went to the bar actually left one bar went to another bar like made a trip to this bar and got there and then this fucking some like fat college kid looks at my idea goes sorry bro i can't let you in this is expired i'm like what the fuck yeah and so then i go well go get this bartender and this waitress because they'll tell you at least that for sure because expired does not mean that i'm not 26 like it just means that still shows your birth date and it only means that i can't drive a car

and that's none of your fucking business right and the thing about that was, too, is I got pulled over that day. And the cop didn't even write anything up. He's like, dude, just make sure you take care of it. But some fucking bouncer all of a sudden wants to make it his thing. But would it be fair to say there was way more at stake at the bar than on an airplane? Certainly. Certainly. So, like, a TSA agent who could have put his finger in your ass for that

didn't and that fucking bouncer would have put his finger in my ass had i taken it any further so how expired what did you how mine was like fucking three weeks or something like that yeah so you probably i think no mine was this was a while ago too because i'm old but so mine was still far enough out by the time i actually went and took care of it to where I still had to retake the written test. Oh, you did? Yeah. So did you have to? Well, I went in there hoping, I don't even know why I

had this thought in my head, but if I was just nice, maybe there's some leeway here. You know, like, oh, yeah. I mean, mistakes happen. It's a small time we give everyone one so this is your but no the guy's like no you'll have to retake the test and i was like dang it i don't even did you ask him if he had a cheat sheet well i was like so what is the test and he's like oh it's 25 questions you have to get at least 80 80 to pass and you're doing math

in your head you're like yeah 11 i can get wrong no it's like it gives you five you can get wrong and uh i said okay like when could i take it and he and he said well do you want to take it right now i said i guess should i study yeah well that's what i was thinking and but but by the way he asked that i was like maybe you don't really need to study to be able to pass it. So I went into the room. It's on a computer. I was going through it.

I got a couple wrong. And like I said, you could miss up to five. And I had a couple wrong and maybe about five left. So I was like, oh, I don't think I can screw this up. Ended up being okay. I got like 93% or something like that. The DMV is packed. And I'm like jamming things up a little bit because I have to like go in and take a test and come back out and like i've one of my piece of mail

that you apparently needed was like questionable of whatever reason yeah meeting some of the weird criteria that they have but so i had to come out and the guy just asked me like it's on a computer system i assume it's like kicking back to him telling him that i passed but he just goes oh did you pass and i'm like oh yeah and this is in front of you know 12 other people all staring because they're waiting nothing else to do they all have a number and they're just waiting so everyone's listening to like the one conversation that goes on in the room you know i said yeah i did and then the other guy came oh he tells me to go wait in line and they're gonna figure something out then the other guy

comes up and he's like oh you have a class two license you have to take the motorcycle test too and if you want to keep it i was like well i have a motorcycle i would like to keep it i guess he's like okay it's another 25 question test and you have to get at least 80%. And I was like, ah, okay. So I've already been there, you know, 45 minutes at this point. I go in there and they set it up. I would have been like, I'm selling my fucking motorcycle. Get me out of here. So I, same way, 25 questions.

The most you can get wrong is five. And I'm starting to go through i get halfway done and i've got either two or three questions wrong and i'm like okay this is getting a little like i don't i don't want three questions wrong at halfway like just doing the math here that puts me in a tight spot yeah and honest to god when we talked about this the first time we talked about it on the podcast this applies to the the, not the motorcycle one, but the- Driving? Yeah.

Then the rain? That was a question, and I got it right because you talked about it on the podcast. What did we talk? I don't even remember this. And I never forgot that because I'm always thinking, well, if I take that, I don't want to get that one question wrong.

And I was like, I also hope Tyler's right. I do not remember talking about what when it rains or when it is raining or going to rain when is the road at its slipperiest like right after it rains yes that's the answer and i and i knew that because we talked about it the thing about that though is well i don't it's because if there's dust and stuff on there like when it first rains things become a little greasy when it rains a little bit longer than everything they're just wet okay however we were talking about how it's just that's a word question that like doesn't fucking matter on how you drive like if you if it's raining you just don't drive

like you would drive when it was dry like that that shouldn't keep you off the road like well i do know that right now is more slippery than in a minute uh here okay here's another question just an example of what they do here when you're driving we live in a place where it snows quite a bit so this applies to us when it's snowing again this weekend yeah supposedly a foot in the middle of april and again next week supposedly when you're driving on snowpack this is how it's word when you're driving on snowpack how much is it appropriate to reduce your speed by 10 miles per hour by 20 miles per hour cut it in half or it's not necessary to reduce your speed i'd be like my thing how fast are you going if i'm going if i'm going if i'm

going 20 reducing it by 10 like yeah so b and c yeah if i'm in a school zone where i'm going 20, reducing it by 10, like, so B and C? Am I in a school zone where I'm going 15? Because now I'm going 5. Am I doing 70? Is that what I would be doing? But now I cut it. As needed, motherfucker. Like, I don't know.

It's always, like, situational for, like, a person that has some basic comprehend. Who knows how to drive. Yeah, it's all situational. But the correct answer is, on those, when I didn't know, my thought in my head was always just to go most conservative because maybe it's like they're proving a point. Like, no, not just 10 miles an hour. It's going to be on a cut in half.

Yeah, so on that one I said cut in half, and no, it was 20 or 10. I don't even remember which one now. Some arbitrary number. Well, I'm like, who made that up? That is not a fact. That's not how the roads work either. It's the other thing. The roads don't give a fuck that it's 20.

A lot of the questions you do just know, but that was something I noted. Some of those questions, you're just making those up to make a few hard ones that just don't have a logical answer. But the motorcycle one so you're also allowed to skip questions so ones that i was kind of unsure of i'd skip and then they come back to you at the very end so you know i had the whammies i got two in the tank yeah four questions to go through well so what happened is i got to two questions left, and I had four wrong. And these were both questions that – Okay, if you get five wrong, you're no good? If you get five wrong, you're okay.

You're 80%. Okay, you can get five. Yeah, so you can get five wrong. I had two questions left. What I would have done right now, Tanner, here's the deal. I knew I had to get one of the two right. To really be forged in fire, just fucking guess on the first one just close your eyes and just be like boom and then because if you get it wrong now you know the pressure is

on and this is like free throw line no time on the clock you know let your greatness like the lebron james of the dmv at this moment that happened anyways because these are both questions i skipped and they're both the two questions that i skipped maybe like even more than once to put them all the way to the end so i literally did not know the answers to either they're tricky questions like that what were they let's hear let's hear the first one if you can remember ah i is it legal for us to be sharing dmv test well we're gonna sell this podcast is a premium podcast oh yeah if you're to this, I cannot remember the second to last one, but I can remember the last question.

Okay. So second to last one, did you get it right or wrong? I got it wrong. Okay. So then I had five wrong and one question left. So, and in my head, as I'm getting close to this, what I'm thinking is I don't care if I fail this because it's not going to, I assume I just pay another $12 or something and take it again. Yeah.

But I don't want to go out there in front of 15 people. And the guy asked, well, did you pass and be like, no, there's no, no. The answer is yes.

You see, if there's a process to that. Well, that's true. I hadn't thought about that. So at this point, an audience has gathered. Yeah.

So I'm worried about having to get caught Because you don't want to get caught in that either. Like, you fucking liar. But I don't want the humiliation of walking out and everyone being like, oh my God, it didn't pass. I just assume they publicly ridicule you at that point. So the last question on the motorcycle test... They're like, take your picture still. Yeah.

Hang it up. It's like, couldn't pass. Got 78%. This is on the motorcycle test and it was if your motorcycle is equipped with abs brakes let me see how is that worded how do you apply the brakes lock them up and the questions are like either um lock up there's four answers you know so one is gradual one is applied gradual yeah and like one is like just just apply to the rear brake or just lock the front brake and something like that then there's one that's certainly nowhere it's like

don't use your brakes yeah yeah coast just most of them there was like that where there's one that's certainly nowhere it's like don't use your brakes yeah yeah coast just most of them there was like that where there's one like that's not it but it is locking them both up but and that's and i got it right and i passed so it was okay but i the the i i kind of knew that that's what they're asking because if they wouldn't ask you know mention say anti-lock brakes but the question was just when applying brakes i mean if i'm on a motorcycle that say anti-lock brakes but the question was just when applying brakes i mean if i'm on a motorcycle that has anti-lock slippery right and it's not an emergency oh yeah an emergency situation in an emergency or like this car pulls in front of you you have 10 feet to stop how do you break it's just lay it down does your motorcycle have anti-lock brakes mine does not so you don't really know for sure then you've never tried it but in my head i'm thinking if i'm just applying the brakes just so you're telling the

grocery store pulling in you're telling me when you tell me when you pull into your parking spot at work with your car you don't lock them up daily well that's what i mean it would be the same in your car like just smash on them because they because they won't lock up. We have to prove a point here. I battled that in my mind for a minute or two. I was like, wow, they wouldn't say special. Like a total trick question. I passed.

Now I'm a licensed driver again. You're a legal driver? The guy said, see you in five years when I left. I said, yeah, hopefully not five years and three months this time. They should do a better job

of like, they could send you a fucking email. I don't know if they ever did send me something. I don't know if they did. I don't think the matter is

your driver's license is not for you to look at. I hadn't looked at, I mean, I knew my birthday was coming up, but. I don't to look at. I hadn't looked at, I mean, I knew my birthday was coming up, but I don't know what year. That's, I didn't know.

But also, isn't it kind of weird that our licenses are only for five years? Like, I'm pretty sure. The weird thing is on the other end of it is the ones in Arizona. Yes. Arizona. It's like 20 years.

I was going to say, I was going to say even closer to 40. I thought for some reason, like I have a buddy that got one at his 21st birthday and I think it might be good till he's like in his 50s and you're like well that picture's no fucking good yeah yeah like what's the point i also believe that point you can just have anyone's id yeah yeah i'm just like you know what i mean it's just like i'm sorry i just got old and white now i've heard you can go online there because and this is again just what someone told me but i heard you can go online there and just order multiple ids so it's like oh i want

three or four ids you can just order three or four and send your new face send you three or four no like like i like if i'm ordering my id i can request i would like three of those printed and they'll do that for you give them to some underage kids no i did as i was browsing in the uh dmv i noticed there was a sign that said you're not supposed to do that for you. Give them to some underage kids. No, I did. As I was browsing in the DMV, I noticed there was a sign that said, you're not supposed to do that. And I was like, hmm, I guess you're not. Huh. Well, now I know.

When I was in college age, like right after I graduated high school, this guy, some guy had like partied at this house that I partied at when I was in high school and left his id his id just left was like it just fell out and he turned 21 like right before he lost his id and so and he didn't look much like me except he was especially at the height except he was a man had blonde hair blue eyes and in the picture had a shaved head like it like mine and so like that's really all you need except it said like fucking 5 11 for the height but most for the most part they're not really looking at it and i can just say my excuse was always going to be hit a girl no they didn't

change the height from the time before oh yeah i mean the height i just i didn't i left it from when i was in you know 18 right and um and so that was but that id i used that fucker straight through till i was 20 but i could never use it here because people just knew that i wasn't that guy yeah and they knew that guy yeah but like but like i could use it when i was in college all the time so i had this pretty sweet setup where on a monday night if you're going to college like it's your best interest to maybe go to class the next day but if you don't have class it's not uncommon for like college kids there might be a handful of kids in the dorms be like we're gonna get fucking house tonight yeah they'd be like well tyler's got a

fake id yeah so that's what i do on monday and then on tuesday the people that were making a tuesday night out of it, well, you know, Tyler's got a fake ID. So I just had an awesome time for like one semester. Didn't go to any class. It was all because of that gentleman's fake ID. It was great. Made lots of lifelong friends.

I won't get into the specifics of how I came about it. Because I don't want to, what would that be called if you're like uh self-incriminating yourself Tanner murdered a person and stole his wallet but uh the statute of limitations might still be when I was either 19 or 20 I think it was 19 even I came into an id a driver's license that uh no an id card is what it actually ended up being with my picture on it from the DMV with somebody else's birth date. And the only thing on it was my picture.

What's your picture? And the rest was somebody else's information. That's tremendous. Yes. And actually, and one time i lost it and i managed to come to do it all over again because i was like oh i'm really dependent on this at that point like i'm gonna have to do do what was done you're over again. You're like, I've been taking out loans. And it was not like a doctoring of an identification. It was printed from the DMV.

That's tremendous. That's where it's at. Yes. I mean, it was bullet. Well, I mean, it was like. Yeah. I mean, to be like, look at it. I mean. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. I don't have. I mean, I don like, I mean, to be like, look at it. I mean.

Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. I don't have that. I mean, I don't have a need for that and I wouldn't mind having one. But they have done things differently between the processes it was then and now that it would not, I don't think it could be done as far as I know. Well, there's a little hologram thing in them now you know no but that

that was on i mean whatever they print it was whatever okay i mean i got it from that's where it came from they handed it to me so it was all on the up and up except for you know the fact that it existed but if uh anyone is listening to this this is a, this whole thing is satire. Tanner, Tanner actually hasn't even had the whole DMV thing before. We've just been fantasizing for the last 20 minutes about what it would be like if Tanner went to the DMV. None of this is real. It's,

it's all fake. They're going to, they're going to, next time you go in, in five years and three months, we've been waiting for you. They're going to be like, go in there and take your test again.

And they're going to be waiting for you with cuffs we heard what you said first they're going to make you take the test they're going to make you take the test and every answer is going to pop up as wrong and when you come out they're going to be like hey did you pass and you're going to have to say in front of a huge group of people and then they're going to arrest you

they're going to arrest you for fraud in front of everybody but everyone's going to think it's What percent did you get? They're going to arrest you for fraud in front of everybody, but everyone's going to think it's because you're so dumb. You failed your test. They'll be like, we're cuffing you. Well, they're going to be like, oh, fuck. I better get a study book out. So that's some stuff.

Well, speaking of some stuff, sweet transition. The real stuff. The real stuff. We mentioned last week, even though i don't remember we didn't remember what it was um that we made a we made a podcast list here like did no we didn't we didn't we didn't we didn't we were on a podcast list that we did not we did not create which is usually the only way we get on any lists yeah we have made it on quite a few that way though yeah that's the way you do it listen here's the deal guys if you want to be

touted as the strongest man in the world write lists that say put you at the top of that list and just make that article on a website you're gonna have to assume someone's gonna do the work to disprove that which is probably not gonna happen It's on them at that point. Yep. So, but... That happens. Every list that's ever been made. Every list that's ever been made, people argue about. So we have What Pods. Don't know what that is.

But since we're on the list, I'm just assuming that they're really legitimate organization. I really don't know. I looked at it just very so slightly, and I'm not sure exactly what they are. I'm not either. I think they make lists. Yeah. So, yeah.

So, the title is Looking for the Ultimate Bodybuilding Podcast. We found the top 29. Weird number. It is a strange number, considering there are many that are not on this list. We, however, are on this list. Do you think they're in order? No, I figured we'd be more closer to the top, but what else? So let's just go.

Number 19. Well, first off, the Strength Athlete Podcast is number 20. Number 19 is strong talk with kale beck front of the podcast i listened to both of those not religiously but and then uh number 18 just happens to be massonomics the world's strongest podcast oh i've heard of that i've heard that those guys say about those guys seem handsome um if you're looking for a light-hearted and engaging bodybuilding podcast that still serves huge amounts of knowledge on the tops of topics of lifting nutrition and performance optimization, check out the, check out the world's strongest podcast by massonomics comes in at number 18 as top bodybuilding podcast. Heard this podcast before.

Leave it a review. What do you guys think is more true? The bodybuilding part or the performance optimization? I think we're barely a podcast or the podcast part what the what how did they find like we're not on any fucking lists as far as like like downloads like we're not on itunes in any category near the top i'll tell you my one theory is you think they googled it and found our list that we made yeah so we have a list of top 10 strength training podcasts every one of 10 podcasts ourselves included on that list they're all on here except for two of them that don't exist anymore exactly yeah so they found ours just did a little bit of home they said okay this one's not you know they

found uh tifpl and said this one isn not, you know, they found TIFPL and said, this one isn't really a podcast anymore. Yeah. And they knocked them off. And I don't know where they came up with the other 21, but I don't think it's coincidental that. And their. Would you say their order is.

They're in like 17, 18, 19, 20 are all on our list. You know, like. In that order. In our list. So they, that came. We made their list because we made a list and put ourselves on it. It's my theory. It's kind of like getting nominated for a Grammy when you just wrote an article listing top five potential Grammy nominees.

And then, like, well, we've got a nominee. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's in this article that we were kind of trying to plagiarize. Or paraphrase? We added more to it. Yeah, that's true. There is, yeah.

And then, so coming in right ahead of us is Strength Chat by Kabuki Strength. You know, they've accomplished just slightly more in the world of strength than we have. Slightly is the key. Have you ever listened? Either of you guys ever listened to a podcast? I actually have never listened to that one. Number 15 is actually like one of my favorite podcasts, is Power Athlete Radio.

And then number 14 is actually probably my new favorite podcast that I've been listening to like religiously lately. What's that? It's that Muscle Expert podcast with Ben Pakulski. Oh, yeah. He's the dude from um you recognize him from the first generation iron movie he was the one who was like had like all the sciencey doctors and stuff with him but no he's uh that is a pod of like both of those the the power athlete radio

and the muscle expert podcast for two very different reasons are ones that i highly recommend people listen to what's the power athlete so power athletes like um john wellborn and uh a few other guys on like the power athlete like team they do like strength certifications and it's there's really like strength and conditioning so a lot of it is for geared towards like strength for performance not just power lifting but for like like on the field performance for sports performance so it's really good shit for like a strength and conditioning coach and but it's like it's no bullshit like fucking like like like just don't be a pussy be strong do the it's all the shit that makes sense no nonsense like it's it's really really good and i like a lot the muscle expert podcast is just like a really science-based deal i actually

showed that to professor sean's and like he texted me back the next day he was like he'd listen to two episodes he's like these are the best two fucking podcast episodes i've ever heard like it's just really good information he's having like two or three guests a week on there, and they're like legit guests. I don't know how that's sustainable, but it's fucking really good. That podcast is really good. And apparently only three spots ahead of ours. Just barely. But do they have just endless amounts of charisma?

Not as much as me. I'll be honest. Not really. Never heard of that one. Never heard of that one. Never heard of that one. Jug Life came in at number 11. I like the Jug Life. Have you guys listened to beers with Chad?

Yeah. I've listened to a couple of them. I do enjoy those. Basically just Chad. Just Chad sitting there. Which is, I mean, you could basically just, that could just be the Jug Life. I mean, you could just, I don't know why they'd even categorize it differently. No.

I mean, about half. He takes two sips of beer in that episode. He mentions the IPA that he's drinking. Half of our episodes could just be called Tyler drinking seven beers while Tanner and Tommy don't. Yeah, that's true. Number 10. Odd selections. The Tim Ferrissris show really good bodybuilding i mean i like even a better bodybuilding podcast than i do like tim ferris and i do like his

podcast but i don't listen to it with all the time because of the guests like some of the guests are not entertaining so i just find a guest i like and i'll listen to it but um iron radio comes in at number eight i like iron radio never heard of that one or that one ben greenfield fitness diet i have heard of that one wadcast podcast scott mcgee arman hammer friends of the podcast mark bell's power cast in at number four doesn't exist doesn't exist anymore get rid of it bulletproof radio which is fucking dave asprey who in my opinion is a fucking crook i don't even know who that is he's the bulletproof coffee guy like it has a bunch of like made up fake science

on like why you got to buy his coffee and shit that's fucking nonsense number two is barbell shrugged number one is mind pump raw fitness truth which i've never heard of i don't know it either but i'm going to read the review of it they came in at number one so we'll give them give a little credit here mind pump is one of the longest running and most listened to shows in the bodybuilding genre with over 650 episodes dating back to the show's release there's no secret as to why the show has enjoyed the longevity and success it has. Trio, Sal DiStefano, Adam Schafer, and Justin

Andrews are incredibly engaging and informative hosts. They didn't say that about us. It's true, probably because they never listen to an episode. It's probably true. Whether you're a serious bodybuilder or casual lifter, you'll love the avalanche of advice and good listening vibes coming from the Mind Pump podcast.

It even said Mind Pump contest. Do you think that we've never heard of that because it really is a bodybuilding podcast? Maybe. Or did they write the article on that? Oh, that could be. Maybe they're what pods. What were some of the 20 plusers? Let's get back to the 20 plusers.

The ones who we outranked. Yeah. So we outranked. So many. Heavy Muscle Radio. I don't even know who that is. Dave Palumbo. Never heard of her

no Bodybuilding Nerds Radio Ed Vices Radio nice name I don't know about that Physique Science Radio that's Lane Norton's podcast I was going to say

I thought that logo looked familiar 3D Muscle Journey Podcast 3D what are the names of the people in that is that uh um donnie denny and it doesn't say but i'm gonna go with dennis demarcus dick dick dick is short for dick. 24, corporate warrior, health business, and time optimization. Would you consider yourself a corporate warrior, Tanner? Yeah.

That's true. I mean, you're sitting here. You're sitting across the table from two wildly successful self-employed. Warriors. Multi-thousandaires. I'm pretty sure Tanner makes way more money than both of us working for the man i've been a guest on the corporate warrior podcast a few times just you know being a bodybuilding.com podcast they have a did not know was a thing but it sucks i'm gonna guess it probably does nick collins like it wouldn't need to but it probably does. Nick Collins and Chris McKinnell. It wouldn't need to, but it probably does.

It wouldn't have to suck. They would have money behind them. 22 is Joe DeFranco's Industrial Strength Show. Joe DeFranco's the real deal. Yeah. Number 21, Ice Cream 4PRs with the number 4. Don't know what that is. It's been on a hiatus.

So they quit. Yep. Strength athlete. Yeah. Kale Beck and then us. Have you guys, Mark Bell's Powercast was on there, which is now what,

what's it called? The Power Project. Have you guys listened to that at all? I did listen to what was, I listened to one of the more recent ones because I thought there was a guest that I wanted to hear. I'd listened to the ben pokulski on there that one is it any different than the power cast um yeah yes and no other than that they have like other dudes on it yeah

like i like it better when it was the power cast just just to give you that. So now it's just Mark Bell firing off questions around it, which is all fine. It's more like everyone in the room. It's almost more like... It's a live... They're trying to do it live on YouTube. So it really is just like they just turn the cameras on. Yeah. And now maybe they're ironing some shit out.

But I know the most recent one that came out last week was just like just they were like noticeably killing time yeah what's happening which like we do that yeah but it's not noticeable we don't have any fucking money from either so like right like we get what we deserve for killing time for an hour i do think i so however the the one guest the one guest that I listened to on there was Ben Pekulski's. That one was pretty good. I think if you get the right guest, it'll be just fine. If you have an interesting guest. But I think that's the only one that I listened to.

Just super tired of anything keto. I'm ready for all that to go away yeah that's all he talks about like i agree keto diet like is are you a diet channel well keto people are just as bad as like people who are really new to crossfit you know where it's just like it's all we're going to talk about yeah and they'll like and they have to find like a solution for everything that is filtered through the window of keto. But that's kind of like the beauty of keto is it's supposed to be really simple,

but it's like, how are you talking about it for whatever? You probably have a hundred hours of audio talking about it. You don't eat carbs. I get it. Okay. You don't eat. Here's the whole thing.

You don't eat carbs. Like it's done. That's it. So like, that's, that's the end of it. And I'd be like, yeah, I don't hate it. It's the whole thing. You don't eat carbs. It's done. That's it. So that's the end of it. And be like, yeah, I don't hate it. It works okay for me. You could maybe give me 60 minutes. There are some very small subtleties in there,

but you want 99% of the effects? Don't eat carbs. Just don't. Just don't eat any carbs, and you're probably fine. The keto episode. We can call this episode the secret to keto like they listen to the first 30 minutes they're like all right what is this about keto but i think uh yeah that's that's my thing is i just i don't know it gets after years no matter

what it is we have a secret no matter what it is it just comes back to it you know yeah yeah it is it is like hey uh you know it's really easy to pig out on ice cream but as a man i like to eat meat and it's it's tough to just get fat eating only meat the keto diet he's literally said that soundbite so many times yeah what uh jim mcdee's podcast we talked about it a little bit like when we first yeah yeah we when we broke uh the story to the world basically i mean we're the ones yeah uh we like to i like to consider us the dateline nbc of the strength world it was like a 60 minutes episode really yeah which i don't know if I like comparing us to those boring shows. Yeah, that's true.

I'm not handcuffed by the fucking traditional media. 60 minutes with the clock. Yeah. We are a little overproduced. Who are all these skeletons talking to me? Who let all these old people on television? I thought you had to be pretty to be on TV. They don't know what a TV is.

What's his podcast called? Less Than Obvious Podcast. So did we all listen to the same episode on the Arnold flight? Yeah. And that was Matt Reynolds. Yes. Great episode. That was a really good podcast.

I would highly recommend it. If you're going to check out Less Than Obvious Podcast, check out that episode. that was a really good podcast i would highly recommend if you're gonna check out less than obvious podcast check out that episode that's a good one especially because that podcast is not exclusively going to be strength sport stuff right so if you want a nice transition into maybe what that podcast is going to be like but still on some familiar ground and it's like produced nicely. Really nicely. And they're not killing time in any way. They're literally having actual conversations about what happened, what went down.

Yeah. And when I say produced nicely, that one episode they recorded in a noisy bar, it's not as bad as it sounds. Like right away you might think it's bad. You're like, ooh, I don't know. And then, but once it gets rolling, it's fine. What I like is that jim interjects

from time to time just yeah in post-production those are cool not even a big we say it's very well produced that's sort of the only thing yeah well like there's there is like little music bits and stuff you know like oh yeah but but really it just like drops in and he's like okay well next we asked him about this and this and i was curious of this. And then when he said this, it was a surprise. So check out here when we talk. And then boom, and you're like, oh, thanks, Jim. Thanks for that lead in. Because it also, my thoughts on that is the way that set up,

it almost treats it a little more like a documentary. It's like serial. It kind of cuts away, lets the narrator come in, bring you up to speed what happens sometimes when you have just a podcast in your ear is you do tune out yeah and you're just hearing a thing and it's droning on and you may be dozing off or fucking looking at something else on your phone while you're listening to it i would not ever do that do such a thing i only look at the screen on the fucking podcast the brightness up all the way

all the cover image but um and then so what it's nice is he pops in and so you know what to expect in the upcoming couple of minutes and you can be like oh well that's not that interesting to me i can go back to not paying attention or you're like oh i would like to hear that so i do like i like that setup is really cool. We're going to start doing it every once in a while. I'm just going to be like, I'm going to cut it. I'm going to be like,

I'm going to be like, so here's what happened. Yeah. We get a little song going up next. I told Tanner he had a little wiener. You guys didn't see this part on camera. Tanner disagreed. We'll tune in.

We'll see where it goes from here. Why don't we hop in the middle of this conversation? He does. His episode, I think it came out this week. I haven't listened to it yet. It's with the guy that produced West Side vs. The World. So I'm excited to listen to that. I think they're talking about what it was like going into that.

Are we getting our screener? We are due for a screener copy. That's what he got a hold of us. Are we getting our screener? We are due for a screener copy. That's what he got a hold of us. I can't remember his name, but the guy that produced West Side vs. The World, and he said he is going to be sending the Mastonomics crew a screener copy of West Side vs. The World,

so we'll be able to watch it early and do a... A rave review. Yeah, and probably a full episode podcast review, basically spoiling the whole movie before most of you get to watch it. Well, we can do a no-ave review yeah and probably a full episode podcast review basically spoiling the whole movie before most of you get to watch it well we can do

a no spoiler review and maybe we'll just live stream it on Instagram the whole time yeah be like is this what you wanted you really want us

to do with this be like those guys are really unprofessional also also just send Tyler an email and he will email you the entire movie file.

Yeah. For $20. We're not going to do that. We totally will not do any of that stuff if you send us the movie. But we will help you promote it. Yes. If it's awesome. If it's trash, you can have it.

And who was the guy that got to be the narrator? Is it Ron Perlman? Didn't they get him? He's helping. Yeah, from the motorcycle show. Yeah, from the Anarchy. From that motorcycle show that I don't watch. Do you guys watch that show?

I mean, I used to, but that's... That's why Tanner bought his motorcycle. I got a motorcycle license because of Sons of Anarchy. Because of Jack's Teller. I watched the season of that show, and then I was like, after watching Breaking Bad, this is hard to watch. Oh, it's not as good. They're like, they literally like run around, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, like shooting people.

I'm like. I don't necessarily even recognize. I mean, there's got to be so many seasons. And I think I quit watching it after a few seasons. I was like, ah, I'm not interested anymore. Heads up to the Andre the Giant documentary just dropped on HBO. I didn't know there was one. That sounds interesting.

Yeah. Oh. I'm trying to watch that shit tonight. Did you guys ever watch? Get the fuck out of my house. It just came out, you said? It just came out like today. Yeah. I didn't know there was one. That sounds interesting. Yeah, I'm trying to watch that shit tonight. Did you guys ever watch... Get the fuck out of my house. It just came out, you said? It just came out like today. I gotta watch that. Did you guys ever watch The Defiant Ones on HBO?

Is that the one with like... Dr. Dre, Jimmy Ioni... What's his name? I'm probably messing that up. I don't think that's Snoop Dogg. His name is Snoop Dogg. Tommy, duh. Whatever his name is snoop dog tommy duh i'm messing whatever his name is i can't even remember now but you're thinking of snoop football league that's what it was yeah

yeah i have watched that no i i have heard the final one i heard it's really good it is really really good like if i want some of that dr dre selling beats headphones money yeah like they kind of bring you i mean they take you from basically dr dre being a kid like going through everything and this i gotta look at this name it's driving me nuts that i can't remember is it jimmy ivine ivine i think that's it and uh just his like time being a record producer and then somehow he meets up with dr dre and they start interscope records and like how he basically just said i'll just give people money to do whatever. And that's when Marilyn Manson came around and Trent Reznor. With the interstate, Limp Bizkit was on that label. Limp Bizkit, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre.

We were just kind of fueling the revolution is what they felt like. It was the same thing. Tupac got locked up. And we knew the day Tupac was coming out and the day he was coming out, we had like $2 million sitting waiting to make the California Love Music video. And they're like, we literally picked him up from the airport, flew to the desert, made that music video, and it was like a hit. Right away. Immediately, yeah.

So it's like, damn. Was there ever a point where the mother effers forgot about Dre, though? It's actually been the hardest part of watching my relatives go through their Alzheimer's forgetting about Dre watching them forget about Dre Alzheimer's ain't no joke it's a good problem

neither is forgetting about Dre it's part of one motherfuckers act like they forgot about Dre that's a shame that was that Detox album supposed to come out, by the way? And then he dropped the fucking Compton album right around the same time as the NWA thing. Yeah.

And so I'm like, was that it? Because there was like three songs on that that were good. Yeah. We waited 20 years for this. Yeah, they kind of talk about that a little bit too. And honestly, I don't even really remember how it ends after the billion dollar deal with Beats. It all just kind of talk about that a little bit too. And honestly, I don't even really remember how it ends after the billion dollar deal with Beats. It all just kind of is like, oh yeah, none of this really matters because they made more money than anyone.

Yeah, if I sold anything for a billion dollars, I'd stop doing all of the things. And who bought Beats? Apple. No, Apple bought it for them. Hewlett Packard purchased it originally, and then I think then it was sold to Apple. So is it still marketed as Beats now? I'm not an Apple Music or a Beats user, but I think... The hardware is all...

But did they get... Because Beats was set up as a subscription service, I think. Yes. Of what? Like Spotify or whatever? Oh, Spotify, yeah. Yeah. And then I think Apple bought that.

I thought they were really expensive headphones, and that was it. No, well, it was. That's the thing. The whole thing was just a brand overpriced headphones. It's basically headphones of like $60 to $80 quality sold for $200 to $300. Yeah. And then, but the brand, it was Dr. Dre. I mean.

It was the marketing. Like they talk about that too, how they were sending them to every athlete they could, every Olympian they could. Like anyone that was like noteworthy was getting their headphones. Yeah. Yeah. And like that's what's always. I mean who would ever take a marketing approach like that?

Dicks. Yeah. Sending stuff to people they think would wear it. Yeah. Who in the world? And then trying to sell them for some sort of premium price. Dumbest idea ever i wouldn't recommend it i think we get lebron james in a lift shirt no because he doesn't lift

i mean the most natural fit would be gronk yeah i still think by the way did you see the new gronk thing like i think it was like today or yesterday is it the gronk spike where he was like yeah he just i did just hear about this tell me more about no uh um so so gronk one isn't sure if he's even going to come back to the nfl this next year because he's always hurt yeah and then he um bill belichick basically like in front of the whole team like admonished and shamed and ridiculed gronk for going to tom brady's fucking witch doctor oh the tb12 guy so like as any normal person should because because belichick's like uh listen basically tom brady and like and then like julian edelman went to the guy and it's like his whole thing is like stop eating meat eat this and that eat fucking magic fucking magic powder for 14 a fucking ounce and then just we went through

the whole thing in the previous episode of the tv12 method but um anyway it's fucking trash and and the whole thing is to basically just make you get really small and he like, and Belichick's like, I don't want my fucking biggest, strongest fucking tight end in the NFL going to some guy who wants to drop him down to fucking, just like, quit eating meat, Gronkowski. No, no, we kind of want you to be like what you're like. I want you to be Gronkowski, not Tom Brady at tight end. That's the thing. It's like Tom Brady, the TV, we're great for Tom Brady.

Put Tom Brady at tight end. As a weight block like Tom Brady the TV might work great for Tom Brady yeah put Tom Brady as a late blocker that's not fucking gonna work you know put Tom to whatever amount of wonderful fucking athleticism that Tom Brady got from this thing and all the longevity does not exist in any other position other than the most protected position in sport other than golfing yeah and like it's fucking anyway it's so stupid anyway but belichick like there was this whole article on how he was like just basically made fun of gronkowski in front of the whole team it was like don't ever fucking do that shit like and um i can picture that too yeah and they said the other thing was that like

the longer a player the way belichick is he's like the longer a player, the way Belichick is, he's like the longer a player doesn't commit to coming back next year, like Belichick immediately warms up every hour, warms up to the idea of them not coming back. Yeah, yeah. To where like even if he comes back, he might just trade your ass. Yeah. He'll give a fuck. Well, I mean, he's had a history of doing it.

Yeah, it's like make me think about you not being here. I could get used to that idea pretty quickly. Peace out. Take Tom Brady's fucking witch doctor with you well i always think if tom brady like the second tom brady starts to show some real like signs of uh slowing down yeah they'll deal them yeah he would they would wouldn't think like olchek doesn't give no like i don't think they'd think twice about i think the the problem would be with ownership at that point yeah i mean this is like our goal i have to assume they'd work something out for everyone in mind to go out gracefully. What they're going to say is, Tom, you're done. Yeah, right.

Like, that's what I hope would be. Or you're going to go out on the bench. You can choose. Yeah. The other thing is there was some more stuff that came out about that doctor who actually isn't a real doctor. He actually got sued at some point for falsely claiming to be a doctor, was selling basically a magic plant pill, like a green supplement pill, that he was specifically claiming that in a study that they did

of 200 people who were terminally ill, it cured all but eight of those people's diseases including cancer aids parkinson's alzheimer's like it was this fucking magic cure-all pill then people started questioning that because by god that's a pretty bold claim yeah and then it turns out that the study never happened at all. They just manufactured the entire fucking thing. The dude's a total crook and a liar. So I can't imagine Bill Belichick

would want anybody dealing with this fucking guy. I think Bill Belichick's kind of a straight shooter. He calls them like he sees them. I don't think you exactly get to his level by just beating around the bush. Oh, you got plant powder that cures cancer? Yeah, bring it on in.

Let all my guys try it out. You want to stand on the sidelines too? Yeah. Yeah, I'm on Team Belichick as far as that goes. Yeah, I think so too. I've actually gotten one of my new favorite things is ever since we literally I looked up the TB12 method when we did our extensive research for that episode. And ever since then, I get pop-up, I get sponsored ads on my Facebook and Instagram from the TB12 method.

So whatever product it is though, what I do is I then comment on it and I ask, is this the same mixed nut snacks that Tom Brady used to get his nine-inch biceps? Or is this the same? Do you ever get comments back on that? No. I don't even know if they're still there because it's an ad, so I don't know if I can go back and look at it. But I'm like, and then I've done it before where it's like, is this the same $70 protein powder that Tom Brady used to get his seven-second 40-yard dash time?

Just basically clowning on Tom Brady's lack of athleticism all around. Is this the electrolyte drink that got Tom Brady his impressive 165-pound bench press? There's probably Patriots fans out there that would just love to hear it. I'd be willing to bet that people are just shitting on me if I could go back and read those things. Fuck you. How many Super Bowls have you won? Tom Brady. Yeah.

Like, well, none, of course. How much can Tom Brady bench? I ain't here to win Super Bowls, bitch. Right. Anyway, yeah, so fuck Tom Brady. Again. Come on, team, fuck Tom Brady. What do you guys think about shipping our our things internationally do you guys know anything

about shipping things internationally i've heard it'll take a while and be expensive there's been a growing demand for it ah would you say the world is demanding it i mean this week i think two or three people want someone from australia someone from several people from canada have brought it up and i don't know if it's maybe quite a bit cheaper to ship to Canada. Aren't those countries probably pretty feasible to do? We're not shipping to fucking Uzbekistan. UK is the other. Those are the three places I've gotten asked about Australia.

Yeah, I would love to see our stuff overseas. But I asked the one guy even. I think he was. Do they buy shit from Amazon here? Well, I asked him. I said, what do you pay for shipping usually, like if it's something like that? And he said, I've only bought one shirt from the United States and it was, the shipping I think was 14 euro, which is about $20. So I'm like, oh God. I mean, it's their problem.

We just have to figure out how to calculate and do it. I don't know how to do that. Yeah. So I've thought about looking into that. You know, Matt from Pioneer started shipping internationally recently, I think, so we can maybe see what hoops he jumped through for that. Yeah. I really don't know.

My thing would be like, can we just go to the post office and tell them it's going to be $30? Send this away. I'm not sure if it needs to be FedEx or USPS or UPS. Right away so we don't eat our hat. Yeah, right. Like sell it and then be like, oh, this cost us more than what we collected in money. We'll just send you a bill. Yeah.

So be on the lookout for that if we maybe ever figure that out for all you international listeners. Now I'm thinking about international listeners as well, but now thinking about United States of America listeners, do you guys know which one and only one state in the United States does not listen to the Masonomics podcast? Oh, there is one? There is one.

First, what state do you think listens to the Mastinomics podcast. Oh, there is one? There is one. Well... First, first, what state do you think listens to the Mastinomics podcast the most? The most? I know the answer to this. I have not looked at this data. I believe the most is going to be... Ohio.

No. I believe it is California. It's California. Interesting. Yeah. Heavy population, that kind of makes sense. They're not that heavy. Yeah. Fat asses over is California. It's California. Interesting. Heavy population. That kind of makes sense. They're not that heavy. Fat asses living in California.

Listen, all you fat pussies. All right, but what state? I mean, you're not going to get it. I just don't think you're going to get it. Do we get 50 guesses? All right, you get 25. I just don't think the state will eat. Maybe I'm wrong.

Okay, now I know. I know it's a shitty state will eat. Maybe I'm wrong. Okay, now I know. I know it's a shitty state that no one remembers, like New Hampshire. I was going to say New Hampshire, too. That is so close. Connecticut. Vermont. Vermont. I told you it was one of those shitty states.

That's why I was saying New Hampshire. Sorry, people listen from New Hampshire. You would think maybe Alaska or something like that. They don't have anything to do up there. No, it's Vermont. And then if you go to, like, Maine, has a bunch, like. A ton. Like, states right next to it will have a ton.

And then Rhode Island even has, like, a good listening. But, like, I don't know if there's, like, Vermont's in a bubble. They're like, no one's getting our data from, like, no one's going to be able to know what we're listening to. Shut down the podcast receivers. So I don't know. I mean, no one from Vermont's listening to this, so we can say whatever the hell we want about them. They must listen to the actual radio.

Vermont people really suck. They're the worst. I bet you that people from Vermont buy the most TB12 products. I bet they do. Hands down. Yeah. It's in the northeast area. Yeah.

A bunch of Pats fans. That threw me off, though. I was like, oh, Vermont. What about states with which we have shipped merchandise to? Almost every state. We finally checked Hawaii off the list twice now. Yeah. Actually, three orders.

Is Vermont our biggest state for buying stuff, though? No. I don't have all the statistics on that but i i could have that but uh alabama is a pretty big one okay this was one of my favorite things on your on your post you had about benching 475 you said in my in my uh huge life shirt with my lift hat on with a lift banner behind me and Larry in his

did Larry have a lift hat on and Bacon and Beer Bell's comment was I have all of those things this hasn't happened to me yet but I called him out on the one thing he doesn't have he doesn't have a Larry legend and then he asked if we sell Larry's.

If we could sell Larry's, we would, we could run an incredible construction company. But really where we do ship a lot, probably a majority of our stuff is like the Midwest. And like, I'd call like the Eastern Midwest. Like there's a lot of Illinois through Ohio through ohio ohio yeah minnesota nebraska those people get it all the states where people

are actually fucking strong yeah well they just understand our thick dialect there's a decent amount of texas uh california comes up quite a bit i guess yeah south dakota obviously like comes up quite a bit, I guess. South Dakota, obviously. Who lives there? If you didn't know where we were located from and you looked at our podcast listener numbers and our sales... You would be like,

there's nothing going on in South Dakota. Yeah, I was like, why is South Dakota buying that stuff? I've never even... Has anyone been there? I thought it was all cattle. Cattle and corn. We are the... South Dakota is the leading producer

in honey. Really? Really. Wow. That's actually not very interesting. I'm fascinated how uninteresting that fact is. It was fascinating, Tanner.

That was not that fascinating. Like, that's fascinating, Tanner. Yeah. Okay. That was not that fascinating. Oh, feel better knowing that. So that's a little Mastonomics trivia. Yep. The more you know.

Any other news? Any reviews we got to get through before we wrap her up? I wish I could say there was, but all I can say is that there was not. Should we just randomly review a podcast we've never heard of before? We better not. Should we just randomly review a podcast we've never heard of before? We better not. Yeah. Well, I think that's got us about for today. I'll be gone for the next week.

So we might sneak one in while I'm on the road. Depends on who I grab, if you will. Just find like a homeless man. Hey, you can go find your buddy from Ohio. Oh, yeah. The guy with the butt hanging out. With his ass hanging out. And his weird eye that was leaking.

I just so badly wanted to be away from him. Well, we'll recap that story next week. Yeah. Teaser. Tanner, you're going to have to remember that. Because I will. So, that will have us all wrapped up for today, guys. What do we going to have to remember that because I won't. So that will have us all wrapped up for today, guys.

What do we got to get to? The website. Go to massanomics.com. There you can go to the store, buy hats, shirts, banners. The banners are moving like hotcakes. If you know anyone from Vermont, send them some shit. Yeah, let's get them on. Actually, make them listen too.

Let's get them on the list. Yeah, for sure. While you're there, check out our articles. Sean's most recent article on protein is just fucking tearing up the internet right now, so you better get it before somebody else does. We're running out of articles. It's a zero-sum game. Yeah, that's right.

Listen, when it comes to articles on the internet, it is a race to get the last one. That's how the internet works. Get them before they're gone. We put a limited quantity of views on articles. Only so many downloads allowed on that one. I feel like it's bad for business. Builds demand. Try and stop us. Simple economics.

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It's getting to be weird. It was fun at first. Yeah, it was funny at first. We were forwarding them. It was actually extremely enjoyable at first. Quite pleasurable, really. Actually, now it's starting to affect the way that I sleep. I don't eat food that well yeah you can't eat hot dogs or popsicles anymore yeah or

yeah it's really unpleasant so uh no more dick pics in the email but if you'd like to send us not wieners but money that's where you do that as well lots of people just been sending us money via email it's a great way to you to give money to people to do things. I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Email me the money. Yep. Show me the money, not your D. But yeah, that'll have us all wrapped up for today, guys.

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