Massenomics Podcast - Ep.114: The Future of Strongman

Episode Date: June 11, 2018

This week we cover an array of important strength industry topics, including the future of strongman. We talk about some of the younger guys to watch out for in upcoming years, as well as event selection in competitions. Most importantly, we kick off the show talking about Dimitar Savatinov's recent powerlifting meet.

M-M-M-M-M-M-M-Massanomics Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's episode of the Massanomics podcast. I am Tyler, joined by Tommy.

What's up? And sometimes, most of the time, Tanner. Hey. Tanner, you did your hair for this one. What's going on here? Still from work. I didn't go to the gym today, so I didn't get all sweaty. I did go to the gym, so you guys, don't let my crazy

pump scare you during this. Is this your work clothes, too? These are my work clothes. Actually, yeah. My gym clothes and work clothes are crazy similar these days. This is exactly what I wore to work tonight too. My short, short, short swimming trunks and flip-flops. It really is the only way to live. I mean, I can't.

This is what I wore to work today too. It was a casual Tuesday. Do you have to wear ties every day? I don't wear ties. No, I used to. At my other job, I used to have to wear ties every day. It was like a requirement at the bank? During the winter months, during the summer months, I didn't have to wear ties every day i don't wear no i used to have my other job i used to have to wear ties it was like a requirement at the bank during the winter months during the summer months i didn't have to wear ties which was the time of year when you didn't do anything um well the summer did less

yeah the summer is my slow time and that's when you know no ties yeah that's one of the things that like having your own dress code is just really, really nice. It's also a really slippery slope. You can wear a tie every day. I can wear a tie any season. I don't have to have someone tell me what season I can and can't wear it. Do you have your own employee handbook that you give yourself? I have a mental handbook that I am a real stickler on. You're very much more,

well, I will say you're definitely more disciplined than I, but you're also much better at like protecting yourself from yourself. Yeah, you have to have safeguards in place. You're pretty good about your time management, knowing that like shit's going to get away from you. Yeah, yeah. Whereas I'm like, you know, I'm going to go down like a 90 minute instagram

vortex right now yeah that's if i do that i end up paying for it like yeah i'll like i'll like start answering some emails i was like oh i gotta get this done and this done and then i'm like and nonsense and then next thing i know the whole afternoon's gone and i've taken two naps and yeah your monkey brain kicked in and you lost control. I guess. And the pay reflects it. But this week we've got kind of a hodgepodge of stuff to get over. I hope you guys dug last week's episode on, last week was the starting your own gym episode.

I think that was a good episode. We got a ton of feedback on that. I'm sure people have opened up successful gyms all across the country. I think since that episode we've got probably twice as many gyms now roe is now a multi-billion dollar company just off of last week there's massonomics affiliates all over the world that's the more important thing one actual good feedback is i saw a painter periodization which is timothy painter he had shared that episode and said some good info on this podcast. And I commented to him.

I said, oh, didn't know you listened. That's cool. And he said, absolutely. It's my go-to lifting podcast now that the PowerCast is over. I said, all right, that's cool. Naturally. That's a natural transition. Painter Periodization is his.

On that subject, have you guys been keeping up on Mark Bell's newer stuff? Not even a lick. I've listened to a few of the... Just based on the guests. I'd say every fourth one or so, there's been someone that I... So the ones with the guests, are they just power cast with Mark Bell only? Yeah, and then he has a guy. Yeah, like some guy that runs it.

Probably maybe getting paid a little less than Jim used to get paid. I don't know what it looks like. I never watched it on video. But I feel like he's not sitting at the table. More like a producer. Yeah, he's like talking. He'll chime in from the back of the radio studio. And that is Mark, like you sit back in your tower.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, otherwise it's similar. Yeah, I've been out of the loop studio or whatever it's marked like you sit back in your tower yeah yeah so i yeah otherwise it's similar yeah i've been out of the loop on it it just the things kind of kept changing and moving and i just kind of sort of lost it i don't like it as well but sean's and i were talking i don't know how much down like the the science rabbit hole you guys get with some of the like lifting podcasts but uh is this about global warming again no no don't talk to sean's about global warming no but the the muscle expert podcast um that's one with ben pokulski i don't know if you remember him he was he was more like the the dude with all the scientists in uh generation iron he and he has been on mark bell's powercast just recently they

had him on there too but i don't remember where i had seen him or who he was with and i was like oh yeah fuck i remember that guy and i started following him on instagram and then saw he had a podcast and it is probably my new favorite training podcast it's so are they more or less scientific than us it is it is only slightly more scientific than we are. It is exceptional information, like really, really, really, really, really good information. Definitely better information than you're going to get here, but probably not quite as entertaining. He's a little more jacked than we are still, unfortunately, for us. Yeah, but it's like a comedian.

A big, fat comedian is always more funny than a... How many comedians do you see that are... Fat Jonah Hill was always funnier. Yeah, that's true. There was a bit... I don't know if you remember, Rogan used to always have a deal on his podcast. There was a guy back in the day who was a comedian who was really funny,

but he like lifted weights and was like just too jacked. Yeah. And Joe always. Talking about carrot top. Well, getting to be. He's weird. Speaking of that, Tommy, you could. Yeah.

I like it when people throw that one out there. I'm like, I literally look nothing. Like, I mean, I get it. I'm a guy with long hair. You literally just have hair. Yeah. But he said there was this guy that was a stand-up comedian it was but he was just had his arms were too big and it was really distracting and he'd be like he'd go up there and like like a guy with big arms wearing a tight shirt yeah and he they would tell him all the time like you

gotta you gotta kind of slop it up a little bit. Too threatening. Yeah, you just look too jacked and nobody relates to you. Which is what life is like for Tommy. It's a real problem. That's why now he has a job where he just lives in his house. Yeah, I had to hermit it up and go into hiding. Can't be dealing with all them looky-loos. I don't know if you know this. Your new Acer PC.

My new Acer PC is due for some antivirus protection and probably a screen. So what are we going to dive into right away? Do we have a Dimitar update? I would love to hear about the Dimitar update. We are supposed to have a weekly Dimitar segment, and I don't know. We may have went a couple weeks without talking about Dimitar, so that's our bad. So we do Dimitar. But he has been up to something.

He has been up to something. Dimitar's always up to something. We talked about him taking the road down some powerlifting for a little bit this offseason. Ooh, do you know Dimitar has Snapchat? Hmm. About to follow that. I don't really use it anymore. I don't follow.

Since they changed things? Well, they made the update. And if you haven't touched it back, they've gone back a little bit. But they lost me there. I think they lost a lot of people. What platform do you use to send pictures of your genitalia? Just go back to text.

Just photos. I just put steroids and I hand them out. The mail. I want to be a little more personal about it. you just go back to text just old i just photo roids and i hand them out that's the male i want to be a little more personal about it just like on the street ma'am here we go dick picture it's an actual picture it's not even mine um so he lifted in do we know where this meat was georgia was it in georgia okay um so our man les keys was there and did i see which is amazing that he ran into him it is yeah it's so great he went there he was there to coach one of his is that what he's doing and he was like oh i was did not expect that i was going to be yeah he was our coach and uh that was it It's Perseus? Yeah, that guy, that really strong dude.

And so, I can't pull up the photo. Did you screenshot it? It was one of those fast. No, it doesn't, yeah. It was one of those Snapchat version of Instagram photos. But it was basically a picture. I think the picture was just of, like, the heat, right, of the flight. Yeah.

And so, it was the the flight and it was like came here to coach so and so and what the fuck and like and it was the whole list of everybody and then there's dimitar savatina on the list and i no less listens to the podcast so he like he knew that we were talking about dimitar doing one sometime yeah and then to just show up at the meet and be like, wait, what? I don't know what could be a bigger, like maybe Larry Wheels showing up at your meet might be more exciting. Arnold showing up might be more exciting.

But I mean, just for Dimitar to just show up out of the blue, like that's. That would be awesome. So we were wondering, we were curious going in how he would put together, you know he would put together a whole meet. And I'd say it went pretty well for him. I mean, he bombed out of the deadlift because he tore his hands open. But all things considered, it's not like he was there to like,

you know, that wasn't like a big career thing for him. Right. So he put together a decent meet. I think we had a squat that went through uh he said he said he he hit 1025 the spotters but the spotter touched him and the bar yeah and it he said they kind of even didn't complain he said i'm happy with it because they went for safety reasons okay so it was very borderline. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It was a wacky.

Is this area there? Look at the spotter behind him if you have the video. Yeah, right there. If I remember right, isn't he like enormous? Damn, yeah. He's a big guy. Like Dimitar looks like a tiny little guy next to him. Yeah, the spotter is fucking huge.

Like, he's got to be eight inches on him easy, right? And isn't Dimitar's like six feet, right? Pretty close. And to Dimitar's credit, to not – I mean, I don't think he was super stoked at the moment. But, like, that's – I mean, that's – he had the lift, but he didn't have any more than that lift if it went up. So what do you end with on squats then? What was it here?

We've got 914 was his opener. Motherfucker. Sorry, guys. We're really, really prepared here. It's their fault when they don't post exactly. Come on, give us the meat recap. 981 on the squat. That's not a bad day of squat. And then just missed 1025, which puts him in some pretty crazy company.

Yeah, and then in his first powerlifting meet. Then benched 567. I believe that 567 was no gear. No, it wasn't. Yeah, it was wrong. He said only supportive equipment was knee wraps. Oh, he didn't have a slingshot on? No.

And his neck. Yeah. Do you know what attempt that was? Did he go three for three on bench? I thought it was, and I thought it was easy, but maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Yeah, it looked. He really has his leverages working to his advantage when it comes to bench.

That range of motion is. That 567 looked like fucking nothing. That's for sure. Actually, his range of motion isn't bad. He has a large belly to help model that thing. He got invited to, after this meet, then he got invited to Big Dogs. Oh, did he? And it sounded like he was going to do it. That'd be pretty to, after this meet, then he got invited to big dogs. Oh, did he?

And it sounded like he was going to do it. That'd be pretty cool. Actually. I would, I would really like that. That'd be actually, I'd like to see more and more strong men make that. Cause big dogs is a meat that pays out decent money.

Yeah. And we need, and we need Dan to line us up with them. Yes. He needs to be like, all right, listen, listen,

big D these guys are need to be like, all right, listen, listen, Big D. These guys are going to seem weird. But they are really weird. But you just roll with it. Just roll with it. But all in all... So it was deadlifts, though? The opener tore his hand up? I think so.

I think so. I didn't see anything of it, but it looked like, yeah, it tore his hand. And he was opening around what? I don't know. I think it was eight-something. That's what I thought. It was 800, but it looked like, yeah, I tore his hand. And he was opening around what? I don't know. I think it was eight-something. That's what I thought.

It was 800 maybe. I lost it now. But, yeah, eight-something. Not a bad opener. But now, speaking of Dimitar, I believe up until recently, he held the Circus Dumbbell world record. Mateusz Kielkowski just broke it. He did 150 kilograms.

And that's what Dimitar has been trying for the last year or so is to do the 150. That would be 330 for you people that aren't. And Mateusz doing that, it did not look that hard. It looked pretty easy. He still blows my mind because he doesn't look fat. He just looks like an athletic guy. He's a big, strong, athletic guy. He weighs like 340 now.

He does, really? He's getting pretty big. But he still looks like he could get bigger. He does. guy and i get like big strong athletic guy anyways like 340 now he does really big but yeah he but he still looks like he could get bigger he does like i would have never guessed 340 in that uh competition how old he is yet have we locked that in i was thinking he was only like 26 or 27 but i don't remember anymore that that's you know i think like the and, Martins won this event. Yeah. Or won this competition. Because the deadlift.

Because Mateus won every event but the deadlift where he got, like, last. So he literally got first in every other event. I don't think that Mateus is, and we say a shitty deadlifter. He's an 800-some pound deadlifter. Yeah, yeah. Just relative to the strongest people in the world. I think it's just you. You think he's just going to continue to get better and better at it.

It's just going to take time. But he probably only needs to be middle of the pack. He doesn't need to be the best at deadlifting. He just needs to get middle and then he's so good at everything else. He's like a breeze. I was wondering how that worked out that he got second when I saw that podium. Yeah, it's because he won every event.

So what event was this that they were doing? That was actually just the dumbbell. Oh, but that dumbbell, that was not even a part of the thing. He just did that in intermission, and then he did the log event right after that and won and he was the only one to press the 400 log it was like a log medley uh-huh like the final one is 400 yeah so martinez must have been second third on yeah he must have been close on everything else so so what was the competition though like what was it just somewhere in europe was it official Ultimate Strongman?

That sounds right. Ultimate Strongman. I don't know. Did you see the flag raise event that they did? I liked that. It was cool. So imagine the Fingal's Fingers, where you have to get under it from the front and drive it up. Except it's between your legs.

You've got to back up with it. So imagine a flagpole laying on the ground, and you have to pick it up between your legs. You've got to back up with it. And you have to like... So imagine like a flagpole laying on the ground and you have to pick it up between your legs. Yep. And pull it up. Oh, yeah. Pull it up. Okay, I got you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost like a deadlift right off the ground. That seems... Wow, that seems really awkward. And you could go all the way out to the end and back up. Yeah, they had like a line on it where everyone had to grab. You know, because you could go way out at the end and pick it up and like walk back

really far well you're only out like four okay so you weren't you weren't doing like a like a 30 foot back up you're basically just picking it up okay one big stepping back maybe yeah that isn't i think that's cool i wouldn't even know where to start to try that's the thing i'd just show up to yeah but i think that is good like because i think we've talked about this before is sometimes with strongman it seems like we're starting to you're starting to see more and more kind of this standardized thing yeah which is like that's good i mean i'm not really a strongman competitor i'm not a strongman competitor so like i get it it's when it's standardized you can probably get more people into it but also that's kind of the the circus aspect of strongman is that

like you get weird shit in there. I think it's interesting, though, how that blend still matters. It needs to be some standardization. It can't all be so odd. Yep. You know what I mean? The first years of it were extremely odd. Did you see? There was a clip.

A fridge, Carrie. I think it was on strongman motivation the other day they had a one was it like an enormous fan and they were carrying a sheet of plexiglass walking yes that was ridiculous i couldn't believe that was so dangerous i thought i was like why that's just pure danger that seems like something out of a comic book like like literally they're holding a giant piece of plexiglass and like walking it forward. It's like fucking Captain America. Well, I'm like, is that a shield?

Feet of strength or just like. At what point are you just like making up stunts? It's like, that's like what the guys on Jackass would do, you know, years ago. That's the truth is that there's a line between it being a strength sport and fucking just stunts. Well, there was one I saw that was on Strongman Motivation where it was, this is serious, it was a sack race. Yep, I saw that. This is a medley. And then a rope climb and then a bench press,

like you had to do something for so many reps and then you had to run to the finish line. And I'm like, a sock hop? Really? And actually, when i was watching that but when i was watching that i was like i would actually really like to see brian shaw do this do you think any of those guys could do a rope climb do you think brian shaw can do a rope climb i honestly wouldn't know it actually would it would be fun i i wouldn't know where they'd be at in body weight things at all. Like, I really have no idea. I don't know.

What's your bet, though? Do you think Brian Shaw could climb to the top of the rope? I do, but I believe simply because rope climb is a technique. Like, assuming he gets his legs in it. If you get the leg, there's a loop and you lock it in. But this guy's strong as hell. Because I can do rope climb, and I'm not transcendently strong. And my strength to body weight ratio is definitely worse than his.

They're not going to look good doing it. And the ropes are going to need to be double checked. Yeah, really anchor that thing in. And you might need to drug test the ropes too. But Brian Shaw especially, he's one that between every event you know sizes it up and is so calculated like i want to see kind of a medley where he's like it's totally random and you can't yeah he's like all right throw him to the wolves ideal position for me to set my potato set up before so i can get up and really streamline my transition yeah but the guys now are so strong they are that it's just

different than when they were doing it it would be kind of cool to see how they can do with things that are body weight stuff just because they're they are so it would be an interesting equalizer with some of the young guys that got some time to put size on yeah things like something like this is going to just sound like a cross but but for a cross or anything, but like, see how many of these guys can knock out handstand pushups at 400 Or even get into a handstand pushup. But I think you'd be surprised. I mean, they are athletic. I think we might be surprised.

Because again, if I can do them, and I'm literally nobody, I'm just... I mean, it does take a certain amount of coordination. I don't think your average person, well, they're not your average person, but you're not just going to flip into one and be like, yeah, I mean, it does take a certain amount of coordination. Like I don't think your average person, you just, well, they're not your average person, but you're not just going to flip into one and be like, yeah, I've been doing this forever. Like it's,

yeah. But I do think they are more athletic than a lot of people would give them credit for it. Yeah. Yeah. But it would be interesting to see, but I'm sure we've talked about this too. Do you remember the deal with like,

they were, they were actually like flipping over cars in the street. Do you remember that one? Yeah. They kept falling on them that was like turned out to be like the most dangerous event they ever did whether where they'd roll those cars over side side over side like because they like it was just a war of attrition of who could not have the car land back on them and get hurt not like literally half the field was out that year and world's strongest weren't they trying to like throw barrels under it to like stop it? And Len that was just like putting the spotters in danger too.

So instead of one person. And wasn't there the one in the 80s where they were, I can't remember what they were carrying and the guy dropped it over the edge and it landed on the other guy. Over the edge of that. Like that bridge they were going. Yeah. What was, it wasn't a rock. I can't remember what it was, but he dropped it and it landed on the other guy.

It was that really huge guy. I cannot think of his name. Yeah. He's not alive anymore. Either the one you're talking about events that they don't do anymore that I, I don't know that I like these and it would like them to even do them as where they do these like physical head to head events. Yeah. I don't care. Like sumo wrestling and stuff like that. Like, no is where they do these physical head-to-head events. Yeah, I don't care as much for those.

Like sumo wrestling and stuff like that? No. Like where you're actually taking the – there's just too much element of injury and stuff. I think injury and then just too much technique not related to – Being strong. Yeah. It's not even like – you're not even comparing skill and strength. When you go head-to-head head it becomes about defense yeah i mean

and there's well just which is just gaming that event for whatever i don't think that's the general nature of the sport like it's kind of like basketball we're like it's just it's just a free throw contest but you can like psych people yeah which i'd be okay if there was more of that in strength sports like like like wwe promos being or or specifically there's at least there's there's some bad guys in the world of strongman and powerlifting like eddie hall flipping the middle finger but there's no fucking bad guys in crossfit like there needs to be someone out there going i am just gonna fuck matt yeah up this year and none of them are gonna say anything because they're going to all get their clocks cleaned by him.

But it would be nice to have some hype. I was looking at this. Mateus, as of this was a year ago, is 24. So he's 25 right now. Which, I mean, gives him, barring any major, I mean, he's got a decade of getting stronger before he's going to start having any fucking... And what thor like 30 is he right around there i would think let's just make it up yeah he's 30 definitely 30 not very strong though do you see his uh his tattoos

what are they he just he just posted about this and yeah, like his whole chest and stuff. Finish. No, it's a good looking piece for a guy, his size. Like, I mean,

they're, they're doing a good job with it. And the way it's, the way it's comes across is it goes up his arms and comes across his chest, but like his traps are exposed. And I feel like all that does is make your traps look even that much bigger because it creates such a hard line where it goes across your shoulders. On things like that where, like, I'm certain that, like,

all of Rich Piana's tattoos were specifically designed to make him look bigger. Like, he had, like, the weird, the spider thing on the bicep to make it look three-dimensionally even bigger. But that's what it does, though. If you could go in and specifically design your tattoos just to make you look more jacked he's really tatted up huh let me see yeah and if you look close on his left shoulder it's almost like he's getting that thing removed the the big huge tribal tattoo looks like it's coming off remember you said that big those tribal tattoos and if you if you look closely like it's heavily faded yeah like that what is that process is that

super painful that's fucking really bad it's like 10 times worse it's like lasering and it takes way more tries yeah that's so it doesn't seem worth it i just know i've been covered up yeah do do because people do that where yeah they change it up and i was like but his was so big and bold you're looking like two inch lines like it would just be a mess of black which i'd be like i don't care yeah you know everybody who has tattoos probably has some they don't like yeah most of them they don't like you know he kind of has a similar thing to brock lesnar with the sword on his chest good old dick neck but i would say i would say thor's doing it much better though lesnar's one just looks like someone tattooed a dick on his chest and it's fucking and it's

so random because when it's just there there's no context so it's just there's just a thing right between his man boobs at least thor's looks like it's part of a greater thing the composition would you say is really pulling together yeah um martinez lixus is 27 so the future is bright and constantine genashia got third and he is also she's the one with the weird traps yes yeah did they talk about that he's huge but he has he has a he has a third trap in the middle that looks like it's definitely synthol that's what it looks it's just round it's round and bulbous uh georgian bull but there's no benefit to that in strongman like there's no benefit to adding synthol he actually had a post like acknowledging or mentioning that like everyone claims I have synthol in my traps,

and I've never done that. I would never do that. But it's so weird how maybe he's just the one genetic freak that has something going on. I don't understand how. I just want to know what that is in the middle of his back, like what that one is. Like is it a cyst? It could be. But why does it look identical to your two traps?

Just in another place. Yeah. Like, did they have a baby? You see some strange physique things in Strongman, and that might take the cake for me for the most unusual. What about Dimitar? Any of his looks? No.

His neck. I can't really think of anything off the top of my head. I'm liking i'm liking dimitar's beard look yeah though yeah i don't know why he goes i'd just be the big bearded strong man dude if i would you know just yeah just rock it yeah i think it's looks and i think he should keep that little bit of hair too yeah good old baby brains yeah but uh yeah i think uh Maybe brains. Yeah. But, yeah, I think, well, let's get back. I want to talk about the standardization in Strongman, right? So we've talked in the past about what was that competition

where it's just the two events. It was the log and the… I can't remember what it's called. I don't remember what it is. And a form of deadlift. Yeah, like an axle. It was like an 18-inch axle. But that, I think, is too much standardized,

though it is interesting. It was like an 18-inch axle. But that, I think, is too much standardized, though it is interesting. It might be a great introductory thing. But for what the sport is, I think you want a little bit of unknown and a little bit of odd object stuff, right? Because if it was all really fixed movement patterns, somebody like Mateus, you'd have never seen him come out

and mop the floor with everybody on the fucking stone to shoulder like you did at the Arnold you know you wouldn't have got that and I think that's kind of like after seeing that to me that really is like the magic of strongman it's like you're watching guys that are the strongest guys in the world absolutely struggle with something like but you're the strongest in the world like why should this be so hard and then just some dude that who is also among the strongest in the world but but in a little different class, like come out and just make these guys look like they're kids. That much better at them at better than them at whatever that specific type of strength is, is very, it's very interesting. And that's why I do think that there's value in having that much, some, some like randomness, you you know a fucking stone that you're not going to

replicate next year yep and i i get that but there does become a point where it's too much of a free for all eve too where if it's all odds it just becomes dangerous yeah i think i think you have one like really odd object maybe per competition i'd be okay with like one stone to shoulder one weird overhead you know what i mean but like you can't have everything be fucking weird right yeah because nobody's gonna want to do it plus it just rips your shit up yeah like those are the things that like literally like tear up your skin and like you know it just becomes a then the whole competition like you said just becomes a war of attrition. It's like everybody's getting hurt. It does seem like the last few years it has really settled into, you know, there's going to be some type of deadlift or pull.

There's going to be some type of carry, you know, whether that's frame or farmers or something like that. There's going to be some type of medley. What else is there usually? An overhead. Oh, yeah, an overhead thing. Like they kind of really have started to settle into that. And then stones, yeah.

That's kind of always the classic. But they really have settled into that pattern, it seems like, lately. And I don't know if that's good or bad. I haven't thought about it enough to know if that's worth having a gripe about. But it does become predictable. It's like, what kind of deadlift are we doing today? Maybe the more different one this year, just because I think it's been maybe kind of deadlift are we doing like maybe the more different one this year just because I think it's been maybe a couple

years didn't they do some type of pull like they did a truck pull like a truck pull and was that had that been missing the last couple years I did an airplane last year I think at Worlds they've included that for the most part that really hasn't gone away too much

it may not be in the final you're right the prelims are another thing almost impossible to even see anything on it the deadlift was weird at Worlds this year that was when the barrels kept dropping imagine a car deadlift

except instead of the car it was just like a big steel box full of barrels dropping in and that's a throwback thing too that they had done i think they'd done it with a squat or no did they squat they did both in the heats they did some depending on what heat you're with some did the deadlift and some did the squat like that yeah but but it's harder to have context when you're watching some of that stuff too like like Like, oh, that guy got the fifth barrel. I wonder if I could get the fifth barrel. It's like, you know what?

And we've said it in the past about how it doesn't matter what other people, what the weight is. It just has to look for a show. Yeah, because I would also make the argument for context that almost no one knows the context of what 700 pounds versus 800 pounds versus 900 pounds is. So already it's like, well, it's just something that's really, really tough. It's heavy. Yeah, it has.

It's crossed the realm of what 99.999% of people will ever comprehend. It is just heavy. Right. Speaking of heavy i saw this picture of james harrison with chris hemsworth the guy who plays thor yeah in the movies in the marvel movies um now either thor has gotten very small which is probably not the case because i'm assuming he's going to be in more movies. But James Harrison is a real man. Jesus Christ.

Like, oh, he's way. Yeah, dude. Like, yeah, he's he's crazy wide. But I don't know. Is Thor really that jacked? That's what I'm wondering. Is that just movie tricks? I don't think he really is. Because he looks fucking jacked in those movies.

Yeah, I think it's a bit of movie magic. And he's always got his fucking sleeves off. I bet he's not actually that jacked, though. Because he definitely does not look that jacked next to James Harrison. Now, a lot of people don't look that jacked next to James Harrison. Did he retire officially this year? I think so, yeah. Did he?

So he's just going to be a full-time rhino bar rep? Rep in the rhino flex bar. You know, you actually bring up an interesting point there, Tyler, of talking about people not being as jacked as you remember because we've talked about this in the gym with some guys in the classic movie Heavyweights. One of the characters, the bad guys, Lars. We were saying like as kids like

man that guy was big and scary and like really really ripped and then you go back and watch the movie again did that guy even work out? that guy just had good posture that guy literally did that

yeah no muscle development it was like kind of like whoa really as a kid or they had him lift for like three weeks before that movie or just like yeah it's

same with the bash brothers from mighty ducks yeah you just had like leather jackets on you just had shitty parents you were just poor that was the only thing but yeah I think if you went back and watched a lot of you know those movies from a kid you'd be like oh like these people like they're the bad guy like they're not any different than the they're not even any bigger or stronger but I also got into a a talk with someone the other day talking about like pro wrestler physiques I feel like those have gone with someone the other day talking about pro wrestler physiques.

I feel like those have gone downhill over the years. Yes, that's drug testing. And that's what I said, too, is it's a drug. Because Big Papa Pump, I remember at the time thinking, man, those are, like, third grade me was like, those are the biggest arms I've ever seen in my whole life. Those, like, are the biggest. I mean. All of those guys were so jacked like the ultimate warrior was so jacked those guys were so fucking huge and so lean and also don't think they really knew about what drugs they were taking they just took them all most of those guys a lot of those guys

could have been pro bodybuilders i mean they, they were just like right there. If they would set their mind to that, they could have been. Fucking Big Papa Pump went on fucking stage. People would be like, what in the fuck is that? The freak show. Clay Matthews one time, you know how they have guys come in to the WWE? He was on there once. In the NFL, I think people generally think he's kind of a big guy. He's not massive compared to an like, an offensive lineman.

But he's like Jack. Yeah, he has a bit of a physique. And I can't remember who he's in the ring with, if he was with Cena or who it was. And he just looked tiny. Like, his arms looked like spaghetti noodles compared to everyone's. John Cena's weird big. He's one that raises, if he was not so goddamn wholesome yeah like he he he looks like he would raise the drug testing he's the one keeping the dream alive do

they just do their own drug testing though yeah they do is that really what it is yeah but they say when you say their own you mean the wwe does their own i believe so they probably just are like john cena you're good they just gotta got to be like that with John Cena. But he even, I think he has a deal like at his gym. He like staples up on the wall every past drug test he's ever had. But fucking, I don't know. I kind of don't really get the drug. Lance Armstrong never fucking failed a drug test either.

I just don't completely get drug testing in the WWE. Because with that, it's purely, like you're not giving someone the wwe because with that it's purely like you're not giving someone the athletic also it's just a show like the whole point is like you're going to look at a guy in a mask you look like a freak it's like well look at what actors do yeah like plenty of that like like chris helmsworth chris helmsworth apparently because he does not look like thor right there something happened to him and so but like a lot you don't think a lot of those actors when it comes time to uh you know the rock well maybe but uh or have you seen the new Baywatch movie I didn't why the fuck is Zac Efron so jacked that doesn't even make sense

crazy lean crazy jacked and like big yeah my wife we're watching that fucking movie and there's actually a scene where they're just doing like strongman stuff just just like gratuitous like just dudes with a sweaty pump lifting weights in the sun and i was like megan's like oh geez and i was like turn this smut off like we're watching this it's baywatch obviously so there's all sorts of half-naked beautiful people running around in there and as soon as that scene comes on i'm like you know this is this is inappropriate this is giving men and really unrealistic this has gone too far body image expectation i can't i can't we can never live up to this yeah this is this is garbage but uh but yeah i don't understand why for a show those guys can't.

What I think it probably is as much, you know, in most sports, it's like the competition aspect. They want it to be an even playing field. But I think probably part of it in WWE is they have such a bad rap of people committing suicide and other drug problems. I think that and the role model thing, too. Yeah, they're just trying to clean up their own perception. Yeah, because it's a lot of kids watching it weird you know like after like the chris benoit

stuff yeah it's a bad deal but like it's like that's a head trauma thing right but but people but that doesn't stop people from blaming it on yeah they're like definitely steroids and also i think the wwe has gone in different spurts where in some areas it's been more kid friendly and some areas and now yeah now you know they're publicly traded already you know it's been more kid-friendly, in some eras it's been less kid-friendly. Yeah, now they're publicly traded already. It's not just the McMahon family. It is as kid-friendly as it, I mean, which is appalling to me. Well, I just couldn't imagine that Attitude Era, like Raw's War.

If that kept going, people would literally be killing themselves. There's no way you could keep that intensity up. But also, though, if it still was that way, I would totally still watch. There was. I mean, you're talking like slamming beers and flipping off Vince McMahon and fucking DX coming up telling people to suck it. Boobies coming out. Kids coming out in the crowd.

Who's your favorite wrestlers ever? Oh, Jesus. I always liked, okay, I mean, obviously everyone likes Stone Cold. I don't know how you couldn't. Stone Cold and The Rock should be like. The Rock's really good. They should be in on everybody's list. Within 10 years.

Depending on how old I was, I went through stages of liking and not liking Triple H. I liked guys that would fly around like the Hardy Boys and like Rob Van Dam. I liked them. Rey Mysterio, I liked him a lot too. And these are a little bit on the newer side. I didn't like the jump around guys very much. I didn't either. I thought it was so –

I kind of liked the Giant or the Big Show. Yeah, they were fun. I just thought when I was a kid, like when the Hardy Boys are going on top of a ladder and like doing a freaking Swanton bomb off of it, that that was the craziest thing I'd ever seen in my life. Oh, it's crazy. Yeah. Like, once they started, and that was the thing to do, like, you know, they had kind of the attitude era where everybody was, you know, was able to be PG-13, bordering on rated R sometimes. Yeah.

R-rated pay-per-views, I guess, if you will. sometimes yeah r-rated pay-per-views i guess yeah but then uh and then what they did is they started when they had that freedom they started to move some of those guys from like the more extreme like backyard wrestling background there yeah and then you have like fucking people getting chokeslammed onto bags of thumbtacks and shit yeah are you guys familiar with the the wwe network as far as so like you could subscription yeah, you can get a subscription to the WWE. It's probably the best $9 a month. So it's like Netflix, for people that don't know, it's like Netflix for the

WWE. You get the subscription and you get access to every pay-per-view ever. Including the new ones. Including the new ones, yeah. You want to watch WrestleMania 1, you just go pull it up and it's on there. Well, my roommate at the time, for whatever reason, I think there was a promotion where it was like by one month of the WWE

network and get like a month or two free. It's like, we're just sitting there like drinking beers in my house. Like we did a lot at that time. He's like, guys, I got the WWE network. I'm like,

Oh, that's cool. Should we watch a pay-per-view before we go out? Sure. Let's load one up. And so we just turn on hell in a cell with uh the undertaker and mankind yes and i was gonna bring up mankind and we're like we're like 10 minutes into this thing and like we had drank quite a bit and like we're getting really into it all of a sudden we're

screaming at the tv like yeah like going nuts Like, because there's no way that that stuff would ever fly nowadays. Yeah. You're like, don't do it, Mick. Yeah. Don't fucking do it. Give up, Mick. Just tap out, Mick. Our plan was, like, to go to the bar at, like, 10, 15.

And it's, like, 1130. And we're still, we're like, okay, we got to leave. We came home 2 a.m., threw it back on, and we're just, like, watching these pay-per-views. And it was, I I mean it's a whole other era of television waiting for you at the bar why are you

fucking so I would I would what I guess I'm gonna say is the next time you're with the guys and you're looking

for something to do you know get them one subscription to the WWE Network you didn't throw out any names though of like your own for sure the Rock

and Stone Cold obviously my I think as like other than like Ric Flair, the thing is, the old guys could work the camera really good. Ric Flair, Hogan, Ultimate Warrior,

even though Macho Man could really do it. But they could really, really deliver on the mic. But there was something about when The Rock would come out. And I'm not talking early rock i think like mid to late rock where he was where he had already completely built that persona and everything was there he just has to give a look and then he could do whatever he wanted it was hilarious you know and and all of the you know like he could still almost float one past you you know yeah well what do think? It doesn't matter what you think. I love that.

Or the, you know, he gets, you know, he'd stand up and you could actually see him flare his nostrils. Yeah. Like, just smelling. Start, like, sniffing around. That's what I mean. He could just not even say a word for, like, ten seconds. And that would get people going, though. And it would just, the crowd would feel so many different emotions.

It's like, how many people have the power that they can flare their nostrils and make an arena go crazy i fucking also smell what the rock is he's smelling it up there right now and uh and i also do actually this is one of my favorite things about the wwe is how much of like the the specialty moves or like their finishers how many of them are just totally rehashed oh yeah they put like one one new thing to the beginning of it and then they're all of a sudden this is like like the rocks people's elbow is just an elbow it's just the dance special it's the dance painful than the literally just a standing elbow drop you just dance over top of the first but like that but man every time he stands up there and the arms come across

and he takes off the elbow sleeve so it's extra vicious. That's a pretty terrible move. Well, you do have the rock bottom. No, the rock bottom is much better. Wasn't the rock bottom also identical to the pedigree? No, the pedigree, that was what Triple H had. No, but i think who else like like that's a movie yeah i bet it is yeah oh like any yeah any variation of like

well the you know you get like your choke slams and your rock bottoms and any like ddt pedigree stunner like any stunner is my favorite it's't the stunner exactly what fucking Randy Orton does? Yeah, but with a stunner, you always have to proceed it with a kick to the nuts. It's the setup. It's like the setup to any good joke, you know? Goldberg was the spear, and that's literally just tackling someone. When I was a kid, man, we'd get really hyped on that thing. Goldberg, I liked the WCW.

Did you? I mean, I watched a little both, but I really liked WCW for a while. So Goldberg was my favorite for a long period of time. And I also really liked the NWO Wolfpack. Yeah. So I liked Sting and Kevin Ash. Sting was always a classic. Yeah, I was a hardline WWF guy.

So when the WCW came out, it like it was like hogan don't you fucking yeah and i was a kid but i was like it was like being betrayed and then uh so i had no desire like i didn't follow wcw then i was like i was closed off to it yeah and i've told i think i've told a story on air about how i dumped hulk hogan over when i was a kid did i ever tell you that story uh oh good okay this is a great segue so we were out at the motorcycle rally in the black hills of south dakota and there's a there was a huge water park that they had out there in rapid city and one day we're out there in the summer just happened to be during the rally and that was when they had out at the rally the wcw yeah it was a big event. And I think that was with like...

I think it was like a pay-per-view. Yeah, it was a pay-per-view and it was the one with like Jay Leno and Dennis Rodman. Okay, yeah. So you were still getting all the celebrities. Yeah, they'd like pull them in

and so, you know, because the WCW is trash and they had to do gimmicks or whatever. But no, so we're at the water park and in walks like Kevin Nash, fucking Razor Remote, what was his fucking real name.

Scott Hall. Scott Hall, Hulk Hogan. I don't know why. I don't remember who else was there that day. But those are the three that I remember. Hulk Hogan was there with his daughter, Brooke, who was about my age. I was, I think, 11 or 12 years old at the time uh-huh so you know at 11 12 years old i was like who is that yeah but so we go up to this fucking water slide that you're you you're in a tube you can get partner tubes right so you're in a tube and you go down this little thing and then

you float on this you go down a little slide and you float for a little bit and then you go to another little slide and float. Well, they're like, I don't know, like 10, 15 people behind us or something like that. And so me and this dude I was with, we're like floating down the thing. We go down the first one, go down the next one. We're like, well, let's kind of hide out here. You know, so we kind of hid, thinking we'd just see him or whatever. Because it was really, really busy that day you know middle

of summer and people keep coming and coming past us coming past us and someone comes down they like jarred us loose from what we're hanging on to and we get sucked back right underneath where people come down and i look up and we're like oh fuck it's fucking hulk hogan and sure enough hulk hogan and his daughter come down, and they are right on top. They, like, smash right on us to the point where, literally, when everything cleared, their tube is on top of our tube. And so I looked over at the kid I was with, and we're like, fuck it,

and fucking just shoved up and dumped him right over. So they go right over into the drink and he gets up and he's like you know got his whack hair at that yeah he still had the do-rag on yeah and he comes up soaking wet looking brown as the fucking day is long and and he comes up and his exact words were oh hey watch out there brother and uh that was when me and hulk hogan became best friends basically no basically we got the fuck out of there right away that's pretty cool we'll put him right in the drink that was the day i kicked hulk hogan's ass did you i saw this pop up on instagram the other day and i don't i don't

know if it's real i think it is real and it's a screenshot of hulk hogan and it says do you guys remember bam bam margera oh yeah it's uh it's h Hogan tweeted this. It's a picture of him and Bam. It says, damn, Bam, I wish you were still with us. I sure would love to hang out with you again, my brother. Love you, miss you, Hulk Hogan. And then put the tweet below it. Got Ryan and Bam mixed up. Sorry, Bam.

It's like. Well, and I think Bam had responded like, hey, miss you too, dude. We should hang out. And then it's... Hulk Hogan's maybe just... He's like, oh, you got the one that died. Yeah. He's with the one that didn't.

Yeah. That's funny. Just doing Hulk Hogan things. Did we talk about... Did you watch the Andre the Giant documentary? I haven't seen that. Did we have to watch that? No, I haven't seen that either.

Did you say that's on Netflix? It's on HBO. Oh, okay. Do you guys not have hbo go i do i think you should use it you should definitely check it out depending on the month it's really really yeah that's where we're at on that too depends on we get we go with it and without it like when like you can do that yeah like you can just pay for it like a month at a time a month so like we really that's inconvenient well we i just wait until say like game of thrones is almost over and then i get it and like watch all of them and you know yeah you're really yeah jesus yeah but it saves me 60 a year i gotta make six cancellations and six signups but but it totally pays off.

I had a friend, he thought he had HBO and was like, oh yeah, I'll just log into my account and couldn't get into his account and then called HBO support, like complaining, sat on the customer service line going back and forth with the guy for probably close to an hour before he found out that, oh, I was just using the wrong email address the whole time. And I had to sit through that conversation. It was like one of those really just, wow. Or it's like, oh, nevermind. I've never actually paid for this.

Yeah. Yeah. My uncle's account this whole time. But no, that's really good. Highly recommend it. Also, I never thought in a million years, while Vince McMahon is talking on screen, that he'd be choked up. That you would watch Vince McMahon talk and be like,

no, I'm cool. Don't worry about it. But no, it's really, really, really good. It's a 10 out of 10. It's a good watch. I would like to watch that. Put it on the list. Put it on the old list.

Maybe next time you watch something stupid, you could just replace it with something like that something not stupid something that's not stupid that's good advice but yeah what do I got here we do have a good review whenever that's time for that too

I think we're almost there yeah it's a good one too just to did we talk about me and Dan Bell becoming famous? I don't think so. I'm not sure I know about this, even. I know I talked.

I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast or not. I can't remember. So I got a message from Dan. About, like, the bear thing. Yeah, we've been so busy that I don't remember what we said on there. I can't remember what we talked about. I have heard about this. I don't remember where, though.

Do we dare go down this road? All right, we won't go down that road here. If you listen to the podcast regularly and you haven't heard about me and Dan becoming famous, you can shoot us a message on Instagram and we'll talk about it when I get back. What do we got for a review there, Tanner? It's a good one. All right. Who do we got for a review there, Tanner? It's a good one. All right. Who can we thank for this review?

This is a screen name on here is John Cotton RN, which would be Jonathan Cotton. He's the guy out of, I think he lives in Denver now. He's a strong man and powerlifting competitor. Is that Cotton Sense? Yes. Instagram? Sounds familiar, right? Yes.

Yes. That is him. I don't know if there's things that, no, it's just Cotton Sense? Yes. Sounds familiar, right? Yes. Yes. That is him. I don't know if there's things that know. It's just Cotton Sense. Yep. Dude's strong as fuck, by the way. Yes, he is. His title was, It Was Time, 5 out of 5 stars.

I like that. He said, well, I've been listening to the podcast for over a year now. I've watched the YouTube interviews from the Arnold Classic. I've read the articles on Masanomics' website. I follow Masanomics and the co-hosts on Instagram. Damn. I've even bought a shirt.

So I realized I've done just about all the Masanomics things except leave a review. Last episode, Tyler started in again at the end with the guilt trip about leaving a review. And it worked.

I felt guilty because I've been a consumer of all the products and haven't given anything back. So if you're reading this and also haven't left a review, feel guilty and do it. That being said, here's the

actual review. I like these. I always like the really long ones. Where you think it's over and then it's a new paragraph. Just waiting for someone to link a Wikipedia entry onto there are we on wikipedia yet by the way i don't think so because they don't let you put yourself on wikipedia damn it oh that being said here's the actual review the podcast is great the guys cover a variety of topics in the fitness industry specifically

regarding strongman and powerlifting but also other stuff sometimes they even cover cover topics that they know very little about that would be most of us yeah get rid of the sometimes but they cover it up well by being really funny and they are actually quite knowledgeable about most things they cover given that they all actually train and compete in strength sports definitely worth subscribing to the podcast and youtube channel. And the one shirt I bought is very comfortable. Makes me look 12% more jacked. And I hit a circus dumbbell PR while wearing it, which is obviously a case of causation, not correlation.

He gets it. So buy a shirt too. Probably buy a couple just to be safe. Thanks for all the content, guys. Appreciate all the advice on how to get strong, stay strong, and whatever else Kaz said. I like that. guys appreciate all the advice on how to get strong stay strong and whatever else kaz said except i actually mean it how to use your strength yeah when i read that when i read that it's really good he was doing that at first and i was like and then he's like oh he is he's quoting kaz I haven't listened to that soundbite in so long.

A lot of good information. How to get your strength. How to use your strength. How to be strong. Except I actually mean it. Not just Kaz saying it to humor us. So that's a good review. Thank you, John Cotton.

That gives a 75 out of 5 stars. Road to 100 hashtag. There we go. I mean, we were thinking about shutting down the podcast, but since we got another review, I guess we'll keep it going. We can keep going. We get, guys, we get $10,000 for every 5-star review. So I think it would be really nice if you guys left more of those.

I think that's how Apple does it, right? Yeah. I mean, I think it's like a 10-year delay. It's like a trust they put the money in. Yeah. So we just got to wait. They don't want us to blow it up. We just wait a really long time. yeah when we're young irresponsible yeah i think

that's how it works that was a good review though i give that review a five out of five stars can we rate reviews yeah i'd like to start reviewing reviews yeah do we have any have we got any bad reviews no i mean i mean, I mean, we're all five out of five stars. There's probably some questionable comments in there. We have to be one of the only podcasts on, on Apple podcasts to almost have exclusively five star reviews. Perfect score.

It's actually because I delete all the four. We have the perfect score. We're the, uh, I mean, at some point there's going to be a thing someone's going to filter by a highest rated and we're going to pop up on that list somewhere some point what are we going to do when we get to 100 then we then we we're going to pretend that we're going to eat 100 mcnuggets we're going to hype up something we'll make something else up that we won't let the plans fall through yeah yeah i owe you guys some mcnugget eating on air the problem is it's going to be bad radio so you guys are just gonna sit here and talk

while i'm going slurping on sweet and sour sauce he's still doing it like god shoved another one in there's a lot of a lot of ketchup for a chicken product i was talking to somebody today too about all right we have a little bit of time here i want to i want to run this conversation by you guys are you guys like sauce guys with your foods uh i am a little bit but i mean yeah i mean to an extent i don't like I definitely know people that like their food choice is completely based on the sauce and I don't do that thing. And like some people are really huge into ketchup. Like there's certain things that I just ketchup does not go on for me because like any sauce. I mean, once you have it on there, you almost don't taste the food.

You taste the sauce. Then have you guys ever tried Big john's old west barbecue dipping sauce i actually think i actually think we should talk about this because this i do believe is one of the best kept secrets of south dakota like big john's old west dipping sauce like not for sponsor for real no they're not a sponsor but this is uh i really do think it is one of the best barbecue sauces. People buy it? Yeah. Yeah, you can go online. JamesValleyCompany.com, I believe.

Yeah. And it is throughout the United States, but it's kind of selective chains. Yeah. It's not in Walmart. You can always walk into your store and get it. Yeah, not every store, but I know it's in like Hy-Vee's, certain grocery stores I know. I do firmly believe that most restaurants across the country, if they added in that as a wings sauce flavor, that they would have a real hit on their hands all of a sudden. That shit is so unreasonably good.

Locally, it's very popular. Locally, it's really popular. It's like every restaurant has it. Every single restaurant here that has a barbecue product, that is what it is. But it's really – and it's different. Like most barbecue sauces are like heavily tomato-based. They're like a version of the same thing. Yeah.

Like a lot of – you could go to the grocery store right now, pick out ten random barbecue sauces and like six of them are almost identical. Same, yeah. And then the ones that are different are just because this one is spicier, this one is tangier and whatever. But Old West barbecue sauce has like this really like – it's thick. Like first of all, that's what makes it different is it's like thickness. Yeah. And it's got like these pepper flakes in it. Yeah.

But it's also got a certain amount of sweetness to it, too. This is the most in-depth plug for something we're not getting paid to do. We did, I guess, give away some of their sauce as a prize. And they have a competition. They have sponsors. They are supporters of Massanomics. They do buy shirts and raise tanner but but that's it i don't know if they did a great job of that i mean just look i mean we know but uh but no that shit is good but sauces are you like because i was talking to you you, somebody who buys a bottle of ketchup every fucking eight weeks.

I'm even less than that. I don't even have foods to put ketchup on. You were saying chicken and ketchup. To me, chicken and ketchup never, ever go together. Yeah, probably shouldn't. Never. But chicken and nothing is super gross. Well, that's why I always have to do barbecue sauce.

Yeah. And the other big one too is when it comes to sauces midwest especially like people from other parts of the country might not get this as much but midwest people smother everything in ranch like i do not like ranch like well i don't eat like people like people do i don't i don't like i don't like ranch as a i don't like ranch very well i i hardly use it on anything. And the main reason I'll use it is like I haven't had ranch for months. Like I got to see what this flavor is about again. But like growing up, like obviously all your chicken products – People put it on pizza.

But pizza, yeah. I always had friends that would smother their pizza on ranch. Like not saying like they'd get like a ranch-based sauce. Like they'd get their pizza and then they'd get a whole – Like a pepperoni pizza. And then get a whole dipping container of ranch and just go to town. You know, fries, really anything you can get ranch with and people do it in the Midwest. I'm not huge.

I like ketchup. But, I mean, I don't know. I could go with or without. How much do you go through in your household? Not very much. I mean, we don't buy. If I buy two big bottles a year, I'd say that's it. Really?

Jesus Christ. But what do you put? Like my ketchup dips are like burgers and brats. I like it on – I really like it on burgers and brats. That would be what I use ketchup for. I would still prefer like a good like Dijon horseradish mustard on my brats. But ketchup is a good complement too. Outside of that, I almost don't use – So what I do is I still have ketchup with my breakfast when i have and i i'm

a ketchup on eggs but i don't but i don't do runny yolks yeah you don't get a beard so you gotta have something or else it's just and then it's just but you know it's just kind of meat and hash browns and eggs so i'm but i use a lot i'm okay with ketchup on hash browns but i do use a lot in that instance too and then like my other meals may be like there's like a maybe a couple stray vegetables in there but you're talking mostly rice or a potato and either beef or chicken and a lot of times it might just be ground beef in a pile with rice and you're like you only got basically barbecue sauce, hot sauce, salsa, or ketchup. And I kind of just like ketchup more than I like beef and rice. Yeah.

So it's just fucking slather it up. You mix it up, and it just kind of becomes this, like, sloppy Joe paste. And you just fuck it, and I just wolf it down. And that is, like, what I eat all the time. Yeah. And I eat a weird amount of ketchup. I do kind of – we're talking today, like, I kind of throw a lot of it away, too, because I don't – On your plate. Yeah, you I eat a weird amount of ketchup. I do. I do kind of, we're talking to you. Like I kind of throw a lot of it away too, because I don't.

On your plate. Yeah. You don't want to lick the plate of ketchup. Well, because I don't, I also don't want what I'm dipping to like not have enough. You know what I mean? It's worse when the proportions run out to like three,

four. Yeah. Or you have like a few bites left and it's like, well, do I got to put a whole nother squirt down? Exactly. I put, you know what?

I put a whole nother squirt down. It's like, if you're going to nother squirt down it's like if you're gonna send your kid to college for you're gonna pay for your kid to go to college you want to have four years you don't want to run out of money after two years after three and a half that's the way i'm at with this like i got four bites here i need enough for all of i gotta make sure i got enough yeah and then if there's a bunch left over i i've actually done it where i've gone back and got more food just to use the ketchup just to try to use the ketchup just to try to get the ketchup used up like a real fatty proportions gotta be all right you know i'm i always want them to be gone at the same time it's a tough it's tough getting that ratio yeah you

know everything's got to be balanced when i eat any meal i always whatever i'm having that's the least appetizing thing to me i like to eat all of that first that's how I go like yeah like I have spinach on my eggs and stuff in the morning I always eat all the spinach right away with as little egg as possible so then I get done with that and I'm like all right now it's time to because the last thing you want to do too is be like kind of full and then have to eat something you don't like. Bad stuff. I agree. But I go through, at Walmart they sell ketchup in, I believe they're 48-ounce bottles, big ones, right? And there's two of them together on a... Yeah, yeah. They're like connected, right?

Is it the ones where the cap is on the bottom? Is that all the ketchup comes in now? Yeah, I think they all are that way now. Do you think that was a good invention? Yes and no. But I hate when you open it up and then all... It's too aggressive. Yeah, it's always like that.

I don't have a solution to that problem. But those two, so that's like 96 ounces of ketchup. And that will last me one week. Whoa. That's a lot. I'll go through two of those a week most weeks. That is easily a year's supply for me. It's super gross probably.

How about this? When you get the ketchup on the, you know, it's the little butthole part of it and then the bigger. When you get ketchup on that, do you clean it up or do you just close it? It depends on how long it's been there. If it just got there, like I do the deal and it's there, I'll just give you a little finger swipe, move on, rub it in my gums. I'll save that.

Get that hit going. Give it a little. But, yeah, if I open it and I find it there, that's Stan. I ain't touching it. So do you ever explore the exotic ketchups? I've seen jalapeno ketchup or something. I made a ketchup one time with a really spicy, it was a little invasively spicy,

but I grew a bunch of Tabasco peppers, which I thought Tabasco was just the name of a sauce. I didn't realize it was a pepper. But as they sit, they're pretty fucking hot. which I thought Tabasco was just the name of a sauce. I didn't realize it was a pepper, a pepper. Um, but as they sit, they're pretty fucking hot, you know? And so I made that,

I basically like blend a bunch of those up in the food, like liquefy them in a food processor and then added like two bottles of ketchup or I started with one bottle of ketchup and it was intolerant. So then I had two bottles of ketchup into like dumb it down. And that took me months to get through those two. Because you'd be sweating more than I normally sweat when I eat. And then you'd have diarrhea. More than just your average eating sweat.

Because it's pretty acidic. So between the ketchup and all that stuff. So it would just hurt your ass. Yeah. What about ketchup chips? I almost don't eat chips. Okay. But have you ever had them though?

No. I tried one. Is that a Canadian thing? My roommate at the time showed up with a bag of them. It's like, try it. And I had one. I'm like, yeah, that's not good. It's not for me.

Yeah, gross. I don't eat chips either. I really don't eat chips. Even like tortilla chips, man? Tortilla chips are just – Listen, if there's a spread and there's tortilla chips and like a good guacamole or a good dip, I can go off on them, but I have not bought a bag of chips in three or four years. Do you guys like popcorn?

No. Really? Okay, you know how you can just like sit and just like – I don't have to root for her. It's like popcorn. It's no really okay you know you can just like sit and just like it's like popcorn it's not like you know it's not sweet at all it's just got that perfect amount of saltiness and you never really feel like you're eating anything and it's not so rich that you gotta like you can just keep going forever like that's how i feel with tortilla chips like you know it's pretty bland but there's the salt there and it kind of just gives you just enough to eat them plain i can eat them plain even weird dude oh i mean i like it like guac well what the fuck just happened back from our

smoke break i guess we could just use that audio but it's probably really bad anyways but i guess that'll be interesting anyway i had a total fucking meltdown guys uh i went to re take the computer out of screensaver mode and hit the magical space bar. So we better start over. So Dimitar had a power thing. That was pretty cool. Have you heard about this guy Dimitar?

Strong man stuff. We have that five-page review. Let's get started. Anyway, I guess it's a sign that we probably got to wrap up here. I don't even know where we left off with the popcorn conversation, Tommy. Just comparing popcorn to tortilla chips. It just leaves you always wanting a little more. I like that.

Just like our podcast. Just like our podcast. You know? The reason I don't eat a lot of popcorn is because it's really difficult to put ketchup on. It's not the best ketchup vehicle. It's a logistical nightmare with ketchup it's not the best ketchup vehicle it's a logistical nightmare but that will have us wrapped up for today

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pretty straightforward and really fortunate that nobody else got that. Thank God. Were we talking about Instagram handles? Was it you guys or was somebody else talking about if Poopaloompa was taken? It wasn't me. It was not on this podcast? I bet it is, though. It is not taken. So if you're out there and you're looking, you could be Poopaloompa on Instagram. That is not taken.

I just feel like that'd be like a great meme account. Yeah. Just from a handle standpoint. So somebody get out there and get on that and, you know, give me credit where credit's due. You could be Poopaloompa. Yep. So that's your second chapter of your homework. So, all right.

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