Massenomics Podcast - Ep.118: Return From The Land of Arnold

Episode Date: July 9, 2018

This week Tyler recaps his European world tour, somehow we end up talking about the NBA (which we know NOTHING about), and let you know about all the newest additions to your Netflix playlist. Typical day at the office for the Massenomics crew.

M-M-M-M-M-M-M-Massanomics Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's episode of the Massanomics Podcast. I am Tyler. Next to me, as usual, is Tommy.

What's up? And across the way is Tanner. Hello, everybody. Keeping the brim low. Yeah. Keeping the bright lights of the studio out of his eyes. Don't want you to see me here. Don't want to get blinded.

So, I've been gone for the last three weeks. I took an adventure in Europe, and I just wanted to get – Is that Europe, Minnesota? Europe, Minnesota. Is that a place? I don't know. But there was a few subjects I wanted to make sure that we got into that I had thought about while we were gone.

Was it a gay cruise? It wasn't a gay cruise. Well, listen, any cruise is a gay cruise if you try hard enough. You were gone during a lot of things that I noticed, like Pride Week and Pride Month. Yeah, there was no coincidence there. I knew it. Anyway, the first three things I want to make sure we covered was

I want to make sure we got into Dave Hoff's new world record and the IPF Worlds result. Then I wanted to move into the new Strongman Showdown returning. And then I wanted to finish with how important goal setting is and power lifting. Does that sound like something we've got i've been gone for three weeks i think that would be three really good points to get into i don't think we man we haven't talked about any of those things have we coincidentally those i was thinking those would be good topics to talk about too if you don't listen often that is exactly what we covered

the last three weeks while I was gone. Did you see when Dave Hoff threw Louie? Yeah, I did that. What the fuck? Did you think that was a good deadlift attempt? The deadlift attempt? I guess I didn't pay any attention to that deadlift attempt. I was more like, why are they only showing the deadlift, and why are they not showing the squat?

And we all know why they didn't show the squat, right? I actually did find a video of it. Was it legit or legit-ish? I mean, I'm a terrible judge of multi-ply because in my mind, multi-ply always looks – I mean, most people's minds, multi-ply probably always looks high, but it was about what you would expect probably. That's what we should say.

We shouldn't say that it was high. We should say it is about what you would expect. I mean, I'll let you be the judge of what you think that means, but I would say it's probably what you would expect. If i'll let you be the judge of what you think that means but i would say it's probably what you would expect yeah and i'm certain if you don't like it you probably thought it looked really bad and if you like multi-ply you probably thought it looked pretty good like also and i'm also pretty sure that dave hoff can squat more than all three of us in any oh yeah i have no doubt about that naked yeah but like i don't know yeah it was exactly what you expected it to look like. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I did. Actually, I went to, I spent a week in Vienna doing some things with StrongFit and then at a wonderful place called Grex Gym there. And then I also was in Utrecht. Apparently, that's how it's pronounced with a little bit of loogie at the end. That's the proper. Apparently. That's in the Netherlands. So, you know, it's pronounced with a little bit of loogie that's the end that's the proper apparently that's that's that's in the netherlands so you know i was there like you're a foreigner yeah you gotta you gotta you gotta mumble and then they think you're a local

because i look pretty local um but anyway while i was in vienna there is a place the gym is technically called intelligent strength but when you pull up to the place, you see from outside, it just says in huge letters, it just says DOS Gym. It's Ramstein's Gym. It is fucking so awesome. So I actually, we filmed a full video tour of it, like a full video walkthrough. And I will try to get that up here in the next, I'd say, two or three weeks. I've got to have this wonderful German cameraman who did all the footage for me, but he's busy, so it takes some time.

But once I get the footage, you guys will get to see it. But it is, so you walk in, obviously the first thing you ask, like, hey, how much does it cost to get in? And the guy his name's alexander perzel um he's a ipf power lifter competed at worlds he's he's a big strong motherfucker has a beard about down to his belly button and he saw me just because of my bigness apparently and so right away he was like he came up and he was like well you can get in for free if you can lift up that dumbbell if you can lift up that dumbbell if you

can deadlift that dumbbell off the floor you get in here for free so and it was 150 kilo dumbbell so 330 pounds but it fucking rolls so it was like not even even at that challenge picking picking that i got i thought it was like i was like yeah 330 like one hand like probably can do that for sure and then i actually got to thinking about it and that's actually pretty fucking nasty to lift and i could get it to break the floor he's like you're gonna have to hook rip it there's no way i tried hook ripping is this a standard like barbell handle on it or is it like yeah yeah it's a it's just a regular old dumbbell okay but it'd be like just double overhanding 660 yeah yeah from your fucking ankle yeah you know which then i got to thinking like oh that is and then i was like okay maybe i'm not

a total pussy you know and then he's like all right there's one more thing you can do and they had this like chain hanging down with this cuff with a bolt on each end he's like stick your arm in here if your bicep locks out that last bolt that all the threads on there you get in for free too so if your arms are big enough you never have to pay this place which is awesome and i fucking got that thing locked out i fucking know i did and he said i was one notch short which is some bullshit fortunately stella the girl that was with us the other two guys that i was with didn't have a shot at either but the girl we were with that for the women they have like a two springy like two handles in it. And it's like spring loaded.

And if they can close them, they get in for free. And so she did that. And then they gave us all half price just because she hooked it up. So you get in. And when you walk in, the first thing you see is one, it's open air right above where you're at. And you can see like the overhang to this other, there's a whole second story. Like it's open air. It's open air right above where you're at, and you can see the overhang to this other... There's a whole second story. Like it's open air?

It's two levels. Oh, yeah. But you can see all the way up here. So you can see that there is a second level. You can see some fitness going on up there. Yeah. They have a full turf mat that's fucking huge, and they have... Up there, there's, I don't know, a handful of yokes, sleds, piles of sandbags, fucking rope,

like everything you can imagine up there, plus a bunch of machines, some dumbbell stuff, pull-up bars, a few cardio things, but no treadmills, just like a rower and some other shit. But all the shit's awesome. The main floor, though, is just fucking paradise. Like, it's crazy. It's so big. All the lighting is very specifically meant to make you look jacked. Like, in front of the mirrors, it's crazy it's so big um all the lighting is very specifically meant to

make you look jacked like in front of the mirrors it's all perfect overhead like this whole thing was engineered for a reason there's i don't even remember between six and ten like elite fds like double-sided squat racks and shit just fully equipped with all the attachments you could imagine they had uh every barbell you could imagine full huge olympic weightlifting section um er racks they had fucking some regular fat pad benches too um tons of machines cable machines pulley machines there was a what they had they called it the grip wall and that grip wall runs probably the entire length of what massonomics gym is and they have all of the captains of crush or what's what right yeah yeah

things on they have all of those up there they have like these crazy pulley contraptions i'm trying to roll you know and then they've got um all of the little weird you know they all look like sex toys little things that you like hook a bunch of weight and they have a bunch of already pre-loaded weights yeah on there so you just change the attachments and you can do the thing and um and i mean it's the whole thing's 40 feet long you know just and i went there with julian and he was like it was a kid in the candy store he's like what in the fuck we ended up spending like fucking a half hour in the grip section. Just messing around with stuff. It's actually a really unpleasant feeling. But then you go over, there's like a whole corner of like strongman stuff. And they had, I think, three actual wooden logs, a steel log that weighs 309 pounds empty.

Jeez. Which for me, I was like, I went there twice. And for me, I was going to like, I definitely wanted to do it just to like, be like, well, I mean, it's 309 empty. I can do that. I should just do it. And then I, but I, the first day I was there, it was like, I was like, well, I'm definitely doing arms and chest. And then like the next day I was like, well, this is probably not a great time for me to try to fucking, I just wrecked my shit. they had probably to warm up when

i won't waste your energy grip it rip it they had uh probably half a dozen circus dumbbells like um pile of atlas stones they had stone of steel they had viking press stuff i mean fucking everything um then you you start going upstairs and alex gave us a tour and we're running up and you see it's like strength history floor to ceiling on the walls you go all the way up and it's this place is clean like a fucking equinox gym like so everything is like perfect but lined floor to ceiling arnold arnold arnold like other strength stuff there's a um a piece that i think a lot of people miss like a very heavy piece of steel that's probably four foot by eight foot tall and has cut through it kind of like what we have with that massonomics deal there like cut through the metal very small

names probably less than half inch high the names of like every person ever in strength history like bill kazmier you know your laundry list of people like water jetted, cut through this fucking huge piece of steel that's hung up. And it's just like thousands of names. Yeah. So fucking cool. Yeah. And you get up and there's like old fucking super old,

like a Laco fucking plates. And there's just like swords from trophies. They have like Arnold's head cast from the fucking mr freeze just nuts naturally and you get up you get up to the uh you get up to the locker rooms and it's all still in german but like in the on the women's there says german whatever the word is and then it just says in big yellow english letters vagina really and you go to the next one says something in german and then it just says big yellow words penis and then underneath it there's probably a thousand different terms for the penis and

anaconda trouser snake like uh friday night lights when she calls on me in class. She's like, purple-headed yo-yo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like tons of them in the fogging of the window. So it's so small, so many of them, that you still can't even see through because there's so many words for dick on there, which is great. You go in, and there's lockers. Normally a locker, you get a padlock, so you need to remember what your locker is, what number it is. There's no numbers on the lockers. Normally a locker, you get a padlock, so you need to remember what your locker is, what number it is.

There's no numbers on the lockers. They're either named after action heroes or steroids, which is great. Then you go into the actual shower. There's huge pull-up bars in the shower, so you can do some pull-ups in the shower if you want. Or whatever else. Or whatever you want to do. Then there also is an enormous floor-to--ceiling wall-to-wall mosaic of arnold fucking taking a

shower in the shower which is interesting you go around even further there's a in the actual bathrooms and in front of every single urinal there's a tv every single shitter has a tv up above the door and they all play rambo first blood on loop that's pretty cool yeah like what the fuck and so then you go even for there's like a whole like game room break room up there too with a full life-size turn terminator like and then a sign underneath it that's and it's full like metal made of metal like full and the sign underneath it says don't even think about touching the fucking terminator you son of a bitch underneath there um there also is on the main floor there's like a 15 foot tall terminator with like a working laser and a gun and shit on there like it's fucking insane amongst all the other crazy shit the craziest thing was there was a rug

that is probably 30 or 40 feet long. It would take probably half the length of Masonomics Gym. Between the poles, that whole rug. And it has to be a one-of-a-kind, custom-made rug. Where you get a rug like this made, I don't know. But it is of Arnold in short shorts and no shirt, holding what looks to be a Polynesian woman in a bikini and licking her stomach.

The weirdest picture of Arnold in the world I've ever seen. And also, if you're going to have a 40-foot rug made of Arnold, that's the picture you take. Of all the pictures of Arnold you're going to have that big, you went to the rug store and you're like, I want this and it's the store and you're like this is the one i want this and it's the biggest rug you've ever fucking made you know and the place is fucking awesome though like there's some really really legit strong dudes there like it definitely is a place

where like if you want to be freaky strong body built like probably like 30 of the dudes there were doing all their training shirtless. You know, there's a full posing room in there too, which there's an entire enclosed posing room with perfect lighting and a stand on the mirror for your phone. I always kind of feel like that's the thing Massonomics is missing, is the full posing room. Any room can be a posing room if you want it that much. But, no, it was, like, perfect.

Like, the lighting and everything was flawless. So, obviously, every single time I was like, I better get a quick pump and head to the posing room before I leave. Yeah. But yeah, it was awesome. How many people were in there training then? I mean, how would that be? A lot.

We were there early and there was still probably like 30 or 40. There was probably double that by the time we left. I mean, it's a busy place. It seems like you'd need about 5,000 members in order to... I can't even imagine the amount of money that it takes. I think they would have as much money in memorabilia as they would in the deal. And I'll be there at some point,

and at some point I want to sit down. It's two brothers. One's a pilot, one's a bodybuilder. At some point I want to sit down with the two of them and have that conversation and if I do I'll I'll uh I'll ship it back and we'll have an make an episode out of it because that would be a fucking very interesting conversation yeah why in the fuck there's a whole like third floor up there too where they just have it's like a seminar space where there's some equipment that can get moved in and out of there so for seminars based on what you're doing what you're teaching you can i mean it's legit like they said like all

the members there get access to like one free seminar per month depending on who they bring in you can go and pick one and send them out for free so i don't know what membership costs but whatever it is whatever it is it's probably worth it mean, Jesus Christ. It's like a fucking shrine to like first Arnold, secondly, just like muscle. It's crazy. I've never even imagined a gym that's that, it's so over the top and on purpose. Like it's very self-aware how on purposely fucking crazy it is.

So intelligent strength. They're on Instagram, crazy it is so intelligent strength they're on instagram um but it goes intelligence or intelligent intelligent okay um but fuck dude yeah if you're in vienna and you you're a total meathead go there i was actually gonna be there next month so that works if you want good coaching go to greg's. But yeah, if you want to be just, if you're just fucking power lifting and strongman's your shit, that's the place. It's fucking crazy. But yeah, that was my fucking Land of Arnold experience.

Sounds pretty intense. Yeah. The other thing with that though is there was no, other than those guys, like almost nobody there spoke English like in Vienna. Oh, that's what I was wondering is what the language barrier is like there. There is not good. In Holland, like, most people spoke English.

So if you'd be like, uh, they'd be like, come to your level, be like, this fucking guy. Yeah. But I, like, couldn't get, I couldn't, like, order breakfast at a restaurant without making a waitress very upset. Like, it was frustrating. Yeah. You know. How was the food? it was frustrating. Yeah. You know, how was the food? That's fine.

I just, I just did my, I'd go in and I'd go to, then I go to the grocery store and I'd get like, I'd get three pre-cooked hamburger patties out of the fucking deli place every day. And then I just buy some other shit. And when I, of the five days that I did that, three times they gave me buns with them and two times they didn't.

But I didn't communicate anything different. I just pointed and was like, all of them, three, all of them. And then they'd say some things. I'd be like, all of them, all of them. And they'd be like, no cheese. And I'd be like, all of them, whatever they be like no cheese and i'd be like all of them whatever they are just give me these yeah and uh and and then like a few times i ended up with buns and i was okay so these are supposed to be burgers and a couple times they weren't it was the same so you were

positive if they were burgers no i didn't know i was just like it looks like meat yeah i'm gonna get it um yeah so that was challenging for sure. In Holland, it was much easier being American, but it's English is like a second language. Yeah. I think they even teach it in school. How far apart are they even? Countries like it would be like a, I think it would be probably like a nine or 10 hour drive. Oh, okay.

Okay. I don't know if it was just like right across the border. I mean, it's, it's only like a fucking night, 80 or 90 minute flight, but yeah. Yeah. So what did you guys do while i was gone did you guys do you guys like to party mostly just sat around i partied at most nights well yeah tanner was partying all the time we i just sat around but you know that's how it goes though you've been living that life life pretty hard tommy not really no i've uh this has been the worst year for it um just a mixture of busyness with everything and then had been some bad timing with the weekends like not being decent it seemed like rain or something

would come up on the weekend or that the weekend that was nice i had something going on but i have been getting out more lately so it's it is going in the right direction uh so is the boat up up to snuff it's it could actually use a cleaning but besides that it's up to snuff yeah I saw your you're catching some pretty big air though I was doing a little bit of air yeah I still got that it's not completely gone yet you know who else is surprising behind behind the boat on a wakeboard? It's Chuck. Really? You would not think that 265 pounds would be moving around good, but Chuck is surprising on a wakeboard and also on a snowboard. And that's one of those things that I feel like if you kind of get to do it growing up, it kind of gets ingrained and you sort of hang on to that forever.

I don't picture Chuck as a cowboy type at all, but I picture him as the type that would wakeboard in cowboy boots. You know, I'm sure if it's – I actually have never seen Chuck in cowboy boots, though. That's why I don't – Work boots would maybe be the more appropriate. That's why I don't think that that's – I just feel like I can picture – maybe it's just a weird fantasy of mine. Yeah, that could be it, too. Maybe we should talk.

That sounds probably more correct there. God, I knew I spent too much time in Pride Month in Europe. I did watch that Andre the Giant documentary. Oh, did you? Finally. Had you seen it, Tommy? No, I still have not. Most interesting I learned about it was that he is French.

I didn't know anything about it. I knew he was European of some kind. I guess, yeah. Yeah, the backstory of that was stuff I never even knew. And basically, by the time he was like Andre the Giant that we knew of, he was like fully washed up and way past his prime. You could see like in the early on footage, like he actually was pretty athletic and could move really well.

Well, and then he got so, because of it, he had gigantism or whatever. He just kept growing. He's getting like more back pain. He's like acromegaly or something like that yeah yes joints kept growing yeah but it is shocking seeing him hold a beer in his hand where it's literally like less than like a teacup it's not wider than his palm yeah it like it can fit within that and everyone talking about how many beers he could drink like rick flair's like said one night he drank 106 beers he's like just saying it like it does not seem like that was exaggerated one night and he

would drink cases of wine at a time yeah yeah they said like in the they said they would bring him in like they would bring like wine by the case and liquor by the case and that's like the quantities which he would drink like in a day he'd drink a case of wine and 40 or 50 beers and four or five fucking bottles of liquor he would never drink less than a case of beer really like he like having a case of beer would just be like having a couple beers it just seems like a lot of work it's a lot of work that's just all putting that many cans and well and that's what some of his friends or whatever said like people will ask him about stories about hanging out with him, and everyone's like, oh, it must have been a blast, you know,

hanging out with Andre and doing all that drinking and all the partying and stuff. And he'll be like, no, he really wasn't a fun drinker. He just drank to fight off the pain. You'd have to approach it like it's a job, too, if you're going to be putting that much down. Well, he said it just hurt. He hurt all the time, so he would have to drink a bunch. They said in the the the princess bride movie there was that scene where that girl was like 105 pounds and they just needed to lower her and then like she was just going to kind of drop and

he was going to catch her and obviously they were going to lower her via cables and just have her drop like you know a foot and he was going to catch her and he was 500 some pounds. And he said, literally he could not hold her. Really? So she was completely in guidelines, even when he was holding her. Wow. Because he couldn't do it. And that was before he fought fucking Hulk Hogan and still fought.

Oh, it was still fought out. And by the end, they're showing his wrestling footage. Wasn't he just kind of... He was barely even standing. They said often they would set up the deal so you wouldn't maybe notice it, but he would stand in the same place

and sometimes work his way back to the turnbuckle to rest a little. And bounce off. Yeah, people would run into him and bounce off. But his job was to just... But they built the whole fight around him not having to move. Because he couldn't. That's why during the Hogan thing, when he

slammed him, they were like, what? Because it wasn't even a cool looking move. No, it was like he barely... But it was like, he really thought it was going to kill him. Yeah no it was like he barely but it was like this was he like really thought it was going to kill him yeah

geez yeah it was cool Andre the Giant on HBO man gotta watch it I just gotta get my HBO going again I've actually been

really chipping away at Netflix lately you know I think we talked about getting to the end of it well I think we talked yeah I think almost to the end of Netflix

actually I got through I watched Evil Genius so we talked about that one and then do you guys hear about the staircase at all I was just going to ask the end of Netflix, actually. I watched Evil Genius. So we talked about that one. And then do you guys hear about The Staircase at all? I was just going to ask you the same thing. Why do you guys hear about all this stuff? I have watched The Staircase.

All 13. I actually got done with number 13 yesterday. All right, fill me in on it. Give me the rundown on why I need to watch it. It's this author in, where is it at? Oh, North Carolina? Might be. Durham, North Carolina, South Carolina? at? Oh, North Carolina? Might be. Durham, North Carolina, South Carolina?

I think it's North Carolina. North Carolina. This author there, he's like at the time 60, 55? True story? Yeah, true story. It's a documentary. His wife is found dead at the bottom of a flight of stairs. Probably had it coming.

The police show up and right away. Domestic violence awareness month. Dial it back. um probably had a comment well the police the police show up and right away the police show up and right away the uh the police seem to think that this guy had something to do with it and the main indicator is just the excessive amount of blood like like the blood everywhere also her head was cut off at the top of the stairs well no no everyone's like in pretty much agreeance that she fell down like three stairs. And for three stairs, her head was like,

I think they said she had like eight lacerations in the back of her head. And there was just covered pools of blood everywhere. It did not look like someone fell down. No, it looked pretty gruesome.

Had she played high school sports, she would have learned how to fall. That's true. Should have been a volleyball player. Start rolling. That's true. I mean, yeah. She should have been a volleyball player. Yeah. Start rolling.

Take a dive. Let's back up. What's the time frame? Like, what era is this? This is... 80s or early 90s? 2001. Oh, yeah, that's right.

So this isn't like the 50s. And this is another show where I'm like, who the hell is filming all of... So there's film of everything. There's footage of her falling off the stairs.

No, it's... From what I can tell... Like, 10 minutes later for the rest falling from what i can tell 10 minutes later for the rest you know from what i can tell 20 years the documentary crew is these but the documentary crew is these french guys and uh from what i can tell they showed up like a week after this happened and they stuck with it up until a year ago yeah so there's like oh we're gonna hang out for 15 years yeah not making any money on this thing it's kind of weird and there's a lot of stuff that happens that I wouldn't want to give too much away.

But it's good. Yeah, it was good. It does get a little long. It's a bad sales pitch. It's 13 episodes 45 to 55 minutes each. That's a lot of documentary. It could be half as many episodes and I would have liked it better probably.

Did we recap Evil Genius here after I had watched it? Because here's what I thought about that. One, how the fuck did I not hear about that? And two, that should have been two episodes. Yeah, I think it could have been two. The book ends that. Like the first episode and the last episode,

there literally was nothing that happened in between. Yeah. The first episode was awesome. Like the first episode. I don't know who could watch that and not be like, whoa. But everything that happens happened there. And you could literally go to the last episode. I would say two had a little bit to it.

Some. Some stuff being discovered. But then it kind of goes. Yeah. But then in the end, you're like, all right, now we know what happened. So like, okay, here we are. On Staircase, this won't spoil anything because it's just a this is something i've read post is this the theory okay yeah you know about that then like that's one of the predominant theories is that

an owl there may have been an owl attacked her yeah and like that's why all the that's where the cuts came yeah the owl litter up yeah and and actually she was found there were um some on her hand some of her hair and microscopic feathers were found so they believe an owl could have uh because they said they even had i thought i saw something in durham they someone had security footage of an owl attacking someone's head like it's been shown like this does happen yeah that is that doesn't give anything that is pretty wild though that that yeah that could be a theory or something. Yeah. Wouldn't that suck to get viciously attacked by an owl

and fall downstairs? It would be even worse to get incarcerated for my wife's murder when it was an owl. When it was an owl. And I'd be like, no, guys, listen, this is going to sound hard to believe. Yeah. But I left the front door open for just a moment and an owl got in and right

about the time she was at the top of the stairs the owl had some beef like and just i feel like that would be an episode of family guy like okay let's pull the trigger on the most random things and we have owl death on stairs like that is how that stuff goes yeah but i mean i would if you're into the true crime thing you'll like it yeah i have a little theory on to why these documentaries are getting drug way out you want to hear my theory they get not obviously netflix is a per thing but like i'm assuming the amount of actual views you get is kind of like similar to spotify i call it the uh the drake's scorpion album theory is this the reason drake's new album has 25 reference don't The reason Drake's new album has 25... I don't know that reference. Don't worry about it.

His new album has 25 songs. It's a dual... Except nobody buys CDs, so it's just 25 tracks. Yeah, it would be considered two CDs. So if most rap albums now, in the age of SoundCloud and such, you only release four to nine songs at a time, which is great.

Don't spend much time in the studio. They can all be good. What Drake did was release 25 songs, none of which is great don't spend much time in the studio they can all be good what drake did was release 25 songs none of which are good but if you're going to give it a listen let's say 10 million people are going to get a give it a listen at 25 songs that's 250 million listens on spotify versus nine if you release a 10 album song that that's only 100. So Drake will make two and a half times the money for releasing basically 25 dog shit songs instead of fucking 10. Yeah, I think that is a real thing, actually, is that people are. To artificially break their song. I mean, I don't think any artist would actually say they're doing that. But I think that is a real thing is that people are doing that.

The other thing I do believe with the Staircase, though, you can like rent episodes on like Amazon or buy episodes. And so if there's 13 episodes, yeah, there you are. And the first one, and they just get Netflix. Right. Well,

I wonder if it was out for two years on Amazon first, you know, something that, uh, relevant to our podcast, uh, because nothing else that we've done. Um,

Netflix is signing us for a deal. Making when we had the uh yeah sponsored by netflix uh the burheim she came and talked about katie talked about uh yoga with us that one episode we and we did did yoga with her uh do you remember her talking about beaker room yoga a little bit yeah yeah there's a documentary on it's 30 for 30 podcasts i don't know if you guys listen to those at all or not, but really good. Like you could listen to, I would recommend listening to. Just as good as the 30 for 30. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's, it is just as good only in a podcast form, but this year they did it. Normally it's individual episodes, just like 30 for 30 is, you know, they take an hour and cover a topic, but this year they a serial yeah of all on this Bikram and his yoga and definitely worth listening to how many episodes is that I think it's five or six and you do you remember her talking like it didn't mean anything to me at the time he got into like a weird creepy molestation yeah wasn't she the one saying that like people were like kind of like worshiping him as yeah god and yes and that is kind of what people were doing.

And he was, of course, taking advantage of the situation, it sounded like, at all turns. And also just lying about it. Like just fabricating stories and making things up. It's kind of like the wild, wild country, you know? Yeah. Just white people looking for an escape. And actually people were comparing this to wild, Wild Country because he's an Indian guru. They're comparing it quite a bit and they came out at the same time.

But that's definitely worth listening to. And you're like, oh, that guy really is a scumbag. Yeah. Because Katie didn't really want to say that. You could tell she was like – She was trying to be very polite about it for sure. Yeah, but what she meant I can tell now is like he's a total – That guy's a dirtbag.

Yeah, dirtbag, yeah. And now, guys, probably the most important news. I just got a text message. No, I'm having to put that in my podcast or I will totally forget to listen to that. We are now living in a world where LeBron plays in the Lakers. Yes, we are. That's true. That's probably the...

As someone who is a Lakers fan... You are, yeah. Since I was... Since I was... It's because you knew LeBron would be there someday, right? Since the Kobe Shaq era. I grew up as a Shaq fan, so as soon as Shaq went to the Lakers, I was like, I am in.

And then Shaq was a little washed up everywhere else he went, and I still love Shaq, but I was a Lakers fan through and through. But it's been a very challenging decade. Since Kobe tore his Achilles. It's just been – but even now the LeBron thing gives me hope. But they're also not going to be good this year still. Like the rest of the team sucks pretty bad. They got Rajon Rondo today.

I saw that. I was like, what the fuck? A one-year deal. Wrong dude. Oh, you want a point guard who can't shoot and nobody likes playing with? Yeah. Like I could be a point guard that can't shoot and nobody would like playing yeah they've probably got to get kawaii leonard i suppose they've been talking about that sounds

like that's the long the long-term plan i have that next year that would be the option they'd have to either trade or trade for him this year because he said now that if they keep him he's not even he won't he won't play yeah that he'll sit he will not play that's what he said now so they pretty much have to trade. What is he? Is it like a thing with Pop? I think he doesn't get along with Popovich is what he says. Well, now that the team's not as relevant, they're not winning,

they're not going to win. There's just nothing there for them. Paul George said he's staying with the Thunder now, too. I saw that, too. So it makes you wonder, like, yeah, in the current state, you just don't see him. Here's my sneaky thing that I think is going to happen with L.A. Anthony Davis from the Pelicans is up in a year.

And that all of a sudden makes that a totally different team. The unibrow. Got to get him out of New Orleans. Nobody wants to play in New Orleans. Nope. But that was the Mass was the that was the Masonomics basketball. First time we've ever

talked about basketball in depth at all. Yeah. But it's pretty funny because like there was everyone's like there's a lot of like LeBron only Cleveland fans

who only cared about Cleveland because LeBron is there and it's like but even people who were LeBron haters wouldn't fully hate on LeBron because he was in Cleveland.

Yeah. But now he's at Lakers like the quintessential bad guy team. If you're not a Lakers fan, everyone hates Lakers. Do you like LeBron, yes or no? I personally am a LeBron fan just because he is really, really good. I don't think you can debate that. What about you? I'm a big LeBron fan.

It seems like most people don't like him. And I'm a fan. I was always an anti-Michael Jordan guy because I was a Shaq fan, and I cheered for the team that the Bulls were playing. Because I felt like everyone, all of my friends liked Michael Jordan, so it put me off. I was like... I can't breath that way.

Yeah, right, right. And I always felt like LeBron was... I kind of liked him because he was, you know, the... Here's the other thing like LeBron was I kind of liked him because he was you know the here's the other thing about LeBron because all the old Michael Jordan fans dog dog shit LeBron all the time not only that they won't even be they won't even consider that like LeBron being the best ever is a conversation that you can have yeah I saw a thing one time that literally said it was like a list of why LeBon is not the best and why lebron or why michael was and one of the things on the list like the first thing on the list is

michael didn't need his role players to hit big shots and i'm like well wait a minute steve kerr had how many game winners in the fucking playoffs how many fucking tony koo coach fucking paxton fucking like what the fuck? Like literally more big shots hit by Michael's fucking teammates in the playoffs than any of fucking LeBron's. Yeah. And so it's like you guys are just remembering. Well, it's easy to glorify him when it's been 20 years.

I think with all that stuff, one, it's nearly impossible to compare people across eras. But then anything as soon as you're past like a 10 year mark this like nostalgia like romanticizing the past thing comes in we're just it's one of those things we're just something was always just just because it happened a long time ago it's always going to be better than what will ever happen ever again yeah and that's not saying michael jordan isn't one of the greatest of all time like i'll but he did get his dad murdered because of his gambling debt, but whatever.

But if I was to... I said it. If I just had to pick anyone in their prime, I would probably still take Michael Jordan because... Probably. But just looking at it objectively. I wouldn't argue with anyone with that. But also, he's not 6'8", 280.

Physically physically in the same era like is he as effective i i don't know yeah but like the interesting thing though is i think that lebron in the era of social media and the way like media is now mj would have had a hard time oh mj would have had a problem because mj is an extremely imbalanced human being. I like that way you put it. He's not a good father, not generally a good businessman, not good socially. People don't like Michael Jordan.

He doesn't have a lot of friends. He has a lot of shoes. He's kind of an asshole. He doesn't have a lot of that, too. And I think off the court, there was more problems with or with michael that that never came up because people protected him then yeah well if he was in an age where everyone had a camera in their pocket it would be and lebron has somehow pulled off now

that is the one thing what is it 16 years of like nothing he not a... He doesn't have like the Kobe thing going. He hasn't fucking cussed. He hasn't... Yeah, I guess that's the gold standard. No, he didn't rape anybody. He's not a bad guy. But the... I mean, he hasn't like cussed anybody out in public.

He hasn't got caught with troll Twitter accounts. Like Kevin Durant. I mean, which is crazy. Like, off the field. That is one of the surprising things. Because anyone under the spotlight for that long. He's probably one of the most scrutinized athletes in the world. It's like at one point, everyone's like, it's like, gotcha.

Like, ah, there he is. Do you know how much money there would be in it if you had pictures of LeBron? Of just another woman going into LeBron's hotel room? Oh, just go to TFV and collect that check. If you could get that, a photo of him going in the room and another feed, you'd be like, hey, I got proof that LeBron is having some infidelities here. I will sell you the evidence for fucking $1 million. And it would get paid.

Oh, I think you'd get more than that probably. It's like the Tiger woods thing when that happened that woman would get filthy rich yeah too she could write a book well it like it would be like a dr evil scenario where you're like million dollars i'd be like they'd be like giving it i'd be like yes like man we really screwed that guy but like but that's the deal is like is there is a lot of people just waiting with cameras for him to fuck up and he hasn't not even once yeah which is crazy yeah so to his credit there's people with integrity still out there i don't know i mean i i'm just saying he's really good at getting away with yeah there's there's this really sneaky nobody's that's weak and clean i'm just saying he's good

he's really good at getting away with whatever he's doing yeah he is so there's part two on our basketball uh go a little further the michael jordan's dad conspiracy look it up heard there was an owl involved. You kind of missed the episode when we talked about the strong man. Yeah. Coming back. I'm stoked at how it's all playing out now. Yeah.

And we didn't talk about this since then, but I think I have this figured out that there will be a final team event after all 10 individual events. I think it's going to be tug of war. Dick measuring. Yeah. Wieners. Lay all 20 out. 18.

Yeah, the ladies are going to... Ladies, you're just, I guess, DQ'd. Yeah. They'll just sit that one out. So I think it'll be tug of war 10 on 10. That'll be an awesome... And we're going to do that worth double points? I think so.

So that'll be worth either probably two points. I'm even thinking the idea of three, but I don't want to put too much but i really want it to come down or just whatever the difference is that's kind of what i want it to be like so that that one team could possibly tie but i think making it worth two makes it a decent chance because i think all the events should be fairly close so it hopefully could come down to that tug-of-war. Be a little anticlimactic. Here's my worry, guys. I'm in a log press one rep thing with a guy who, I don't have any idea how much he can press on a log,

but I think it's a fucking lot. He does. I don't think he knows. He said he, because I wanted to make sure that he'd be competitive, and he said out of the rack he strict pressed 300, I think. And that's all he really told me. I don't think I can do that strict out of the rack. But you don't log press.

I never log out of the rack either. Right, and you're not going to strict press when you're out there either. He probably is closer to us. I don't know that he jerks when he lifts. I don't know that I jerk much anymore either now. With the way that I press, trying to protect my shoulders, it's much less of a jerk. I'm going to try to work on that in the next couple months.

My elbows are feeling really good after two weeks with fucking some strong fit stuff now. My elbows are fucking crisp. I got a sensitive shoulder. I'm thinking about one week a baby in the shoulder what do you really need your shoulders and then and then and then i'm gonna like push go on the training for that thing and see see what i can get but we're getting most of the logistics of the events ironed out we've practiced the uh squat what the wagon wheel squat

setup is going to be like and i think we'll have that are we going to get larry and nick to puke during that because i mean nick's done it before they'll say if there's two guys that will take it to that point it would what weight are we going to have them do it's going to be four four something that's fucking gonna be just enough just right enough to make them i believe it they'll go between 10 and 15 reps, I think is what we're – I think that's doable. What they'll be looking at. But I did some looking into this.

How long of a rope do you think you need for 10 on 10 people? What's the first number that comes to your mind? I don't know, but I have a really long rope. How long, though? The first number that comes to my mind – Mine is 150 feet. Okay, because we need at least 100 feet. Really? Yeah gonna say i have 150 foot okay because a 50 foot think about just you standing there like this three foot four foot per dude yeah yeah like take 20 people

standing like this this is like a solid three feet so that's 60 feet of just people and you probably want at least 10 feet in the middle yeah right no i got the rope okay yes do you know how big around it is uh but i think two inches okay inch and a half inch and a half i think is about what people say is about the it's bigger than it's either an inch and a half or bigger okay that's the competition standard there is actually a competition competition standard for all of it and the actual standard event is eight on eight so we'll have a little bit more than that but because in eight on eight they use 118 foot rope really yeah yeah so yeah no mine should cut it i'm pretty sure it's 150 feet okay 50 meters the um the the our plate our field area is going to have to be adjusted this year

because we have to be able to fit 20 people on each end of a rope. But I think that'll be a really cool event, seeing all 20 competitors out there at once. Yeah, especially at the end. This thing's going to move so fast, too. I bet this shit's done in less than an hour. I think it'll take a little longer just because there's gonna between events all the theatrics you're saying just like your event for example there's a little bit of time in my event but

there's some events much faster so some will be faster you know some but like yours we're not gonna make you press your first attempt and then like all right go again you know you're gonna get a little bit of a little bit of a break in between you know even if it's a minute yeah like if that adds up to being six one minute breaks and there's a couple events like that and then the the changing out of equipment will take i'd say probably what for the sake of anything like because the last thing jake and i want to do is a bunch of reps yeah like look at the two of us like so i mean we'll probably start high start really high and hope at least one guy gets it take 20 pound jumps and fucking and then like

if we both bomb out then we regroup in the middle and go from there like yep yep yeah i think we can but i think it'll go fast you know like because we'll run all the ones that we can we'll run concurrent you know side by side yeah as ones that we can, we'll run concurrent side-by-side. As many as we can. Yeah, but there's a few that won't be able to. There's a few that we can't. Yeah, like the squat setup, unfortunately, they're going to have to go first and second. Same with the car deadlift.

You and Shane are probably both kind of technicians when it comes to throwing that thing. So that could take you guys a long time. That's true. But that is the same way where we'll have to go one person goes, next person goes, and we'll each go a few times. Hope you can catch your breath between throws. Yeah. The farmer's carry is going to be done probably best two out of three. There's a couple events.

That might be the only one that will be best two out of three. Otherwise, it's just such a short event. It would suck to have a 10 second yeah and then you're like and then for those two guys are like well i guess we're done yeah yeah um we're gonna try to run the loading event the loading medley side by side that's the goal the girls event i think we can do side by side for sure um yeah the tire deadlift will be one at a time yeah but won't take long but that'll be a rising bar too so it you know that it's not like you just go and then the other person just goes like it goes back and forth so that who's first and second isn't quite as big

of a deal just like in the log press it's not that big of a deal on that. A new weight, we both go. Right. Yeah. But I think it'll be fun. Yeah. It'll be pretty sweet. Oh, it will be. Here's the event that I'm most interested in seeing. The stone fucking last man standing stones. Yep.

I messaged Brad today about it, and I told him, I was like, that is literally the last thing in the fucking world i would want to do i think they're both excited about it i think so too yeah he's he's like dude how many chances am i ever gonna get to do an event like that i'm like i guess but like you're gonna throw up yeah like what the fuck they're gonna get 60 seconds each time so as soon as well as soon as the stone lands on their side that's they've got 60 seconds so there's some strategy there like if that guy struggled you want to go fast yeah be like like maybe I need to get it over there really quick and start his time time because you'd think 60 seconds is kind of a long time

but they're also doing it like what if they're doing it ten times they're gonna need a summary yeah yeah what weight are they doing it 10 times they're gonna need uh some re-tag yeah yeah what weight are they doing uh 330 i think i like that will be the that's a good weight to make it so it doesn't take 45 minutes right i mean if we do a teeny lighter they could do it you know yeah i mean they'll die you want this to be but you want you want this to be between five and ten yeah and that's what i think where i think it'll end up probably that'll probably be the final event other than the tug of war because uh i just think that that's going to be fun to watch that will be yeah and that's one where you want the other 18 guys fucking right in their ear right in their ear and that's what i picture it'll be like too so that'll be a lot of fun

especially i hope it's close the whole the whole uh the total points for the day i think the thing that'll be the no we're not look at that look at that guys the old acer no technical difficulties still hanging in there um but we uh is that like there's not it's not like oh fuck i gotta go deadlift a car for max reps in 45 seconds like i just can't be that vested in what's going on here like someone's doing a thing like i gotta literally guys i'm just pressing a log yeah i can fucking that'll be my favorite thing is like we'll actually be able to be fans yeah in this one yeah and it'll be fun and really everyone doing every

event will have the ability to lay it all on the line because you're literally just doing that one event so there's no there's no well game i gotta to go, I got to go flip a tire a hundred feet after this. Like, I'm not going to try that last attempt. It's literally like, this is all I'm here for. I am, you know, like going to go until there is nothing left. And I think everyone will kind of have that man mentality, which will make it, make it fun to watch. But yeah, you, I think there will be not like the teams.

We know everyone on both the teams. it totally doesn't matter i believe it will you'll find it it'll be exciting you'll be cheering for your own team you know losing team has to get a tattoo a massonomics tattoo a tattoo of larry's face on your ass which Which would be even better if Larry wins. Or if Larry loses. I can't think of a bad outcome in that one. Yeah, that'll be a good time. That's coming up soon, too. We're what? About six weeks away.

God damn. It's getting closer by the day. Yeah. That's what they say. The problem you have with this, this too is that there is way more shit for you to set up there's gonna be a lot of stuff your logistics are but the the benefit though is that i'm not not gonna be killing myself like at five grueling events like that i'm dead so i can put a little more time into setting things up and

and tearing them down without being dead i do also think we're sleeping on that fucking rising bar with the yoke event oh yeah that's that's some fucking that's some shit one i've never heard of that and two one yoke carry at a near max weight you're done for a week yeah two yeah and then this is like well that was near max let's keep that they're probably gonna do three like i'm gonna let them dictate the jumps a little bit at the time but the plan is probably jumping 50-ish pounds a time so they're starting at 800 so if they go 8 8 50 900 or maybe they'll jump decide they want to go 75 pounds or but i like that idea that kind of came from talking with them too they uh you know that kind of came out of just what they would want to do and what would be fun it's not going to be a

very long run but it's going to be very heavy yeah that yeah like I said it's the last thing in the world well and they both said they want to do when I throw another you know talk about doing like a set that That's Alan and Trevor. Fuck, yeah. Well, and they're both, Trevor's are really good at yokes. Trevor told me, if you get me a good surface to go on, I'm going to do 1,000 pounds. So that's.

We just got to hope my yokes are going to handle. This is the big test for the type of yokes, guys. What will be cool about that is having the two two yolks is we can uh they can go at the same time oh yeah i forgot about that yeah going to be a race other than if that's the final weight if they both like peter out on the next one then the time before maybe or maybe it's maxed it maybe if they both peter out on the next one it's whoever got farther i don't know yet for sure or if they both finish the next on the next one it's whoever got farther i don't know yet for sure or if they both finish the next one the last one it'll be time right or do we go up until someone who doesn't get it well i think we go until the yokes break or they until someone or the yokes break there's a chance i might not be owning that gym at that time this might be

yeah whatever but so to do that, I was doing the math. To load both of them to 1,000 pounds will take 36 45-pound plates. Yeah, because those yolks are 180. Yeah. So 16 apiece gets to eight or nine. We got them, don't we? Yeah, I think so. I think I got enough.

That's like four or five on each quarter. Yeah, four on each quarter. We just literally have to bring every single plate from the end. That's the annoying part. Yes, yes. Just hauling that many 45s around. Have we touched on the party? That's always the final event.

We have not touched the party yet. Listen, I know now. I'll be married by then. Yeah, is that going to change things at the party? Well, I'll be married by then, Is that going to change things at the party? I'll be married by then so I might not be married after that party. Because obviously we're still having the party at your house.

Well, naturally. We could have it here, but I think you guys are going to make a mess. So that'll be the 12th event this year. 12th event. The infamous last 12th. I'm going to go ahead and say it. I think everyone will be feelingth event this year. The 12th event. The 12th event. The infamous last 12th. And I'm going to go ahead and say it.

I think everyone will be feeling much better this year. Oh, yes. There's not going to be a lot of... Opportunity for it to be a lot more fun. Oh, yeah. That goes for the competition and the party, both of them. Like, just more fun. Because that's the thing, too, is the party is always like us, like, I hurt so bad.

No, I hurt worse. And then it's just like i'm gonna drink so fast that i don't hurt anymore or people are like i'm just not having fun because i don't feel good and they just slip out to leave that tanner i have done i mean i can't blame anyone in that situation because just once but that's uh i think that's that's that's the reality there is that we're setting up this new format so we can party harder and more effectively afterwards. It's the ultimate goal. It'll be a better show.

I think it'll be a good show. I think it'll be a really good show. Something I want to get is, I mentioned this to Tommy the other day. That would be good. That would be cool too. Obviously more seating, but what I would like to get is cowbells. Yeah. Of the two team colors.

And it's like you can't kind of pick your team that you're. That would be so obnoxious. That's the thing. Like, because people walking by, they'll be like, what the fuck is going on over there? I'm at a fair and I hear a cowbell? Can we get 500 cowbells made? I mean, I figured even if we had a couple hundred, that would be...

Obnoxious enough. Yeah. Have we got some details on that? Is that doable? I looked into some pricing, and it's definitely doable. It's in the realm of possible. Yeah, I think it'll happen. I mean, at this point, I'm pretty sold on it, so I'll be sad if it doesn't happen.

Or we could just buy like 100 air horns and just see. I could pass just a few out just to like yeah it's actually not a bad idea except be like it cannot happen during it'll be like well it'll be like five minutes into the thing we'll get rusty to say all right everyone look under your seats there's a few air horns in the crowd taped under it's like an nfl stadium so some i don't know which ones but they get accused of piping in noise that's kind of like the goal is to pipe in noise to our crowds just so it's like what is this scene like everyone loves this thing are they gonna give us more seating have you negotiated that yet that's yeah well i mean we've talked about it that's the one thing that i'm here's the strategy that i would figure out remember remember we've talked about it. That's the one thing that I'm insisting on. Here's the strategy that I would figure out.

Remember we joked about the dog show next door? Yes. This is going to be much faster than last time, and it won't coincide with anything he's doing. So it just needs to be where they need to bring their equipment over and give us all the seating they have, and then take all the seating from the dog show, and as soon as we're done you put it back yeah like that's not that unreasonable it's fucking 30 feet away right like we're sitting over

that there's enough bleachers for an extra 400 people unused well we've got people that can't see right yeah right yeah no that's that's not gonna not to bank on anything yet. Yeah, we've learned that lesson. That's the goal is to get more seating. Well, I think it's going to be tremendous. Yep. So we're almost at wrap-up time. Yeah.

It's been a pleasure to be back. We do have the Weekend Warrior lift shirt is back in stock in every size. They have been selling like hotcakes today since that news became official again. So I don't know how long it'll last. They might not be back in size. If there's a particular size that you're after, do not wait. I mean, we'll get more of those again anyways. If you wait, you might have to wait even longer than you thought you would have to wait.

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and yours kind of were going bad. Everything looks pretty good. Yeah, that didn't last for a long time. The lift is going to – I think the lift will hang on there, but it's going to look bad, but the rest is not going to be bad. So we made the right decision not to ship those out to you guys. Yeah, we'd have a real tough time justifying that to you. We do the right thing here at quality control.

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