Massenomics Podcast - Ep.144: The Best Equipment for PRs (maybe)

Episode Date: January 7, 2019

We dug up a couple of hot deals on lifting equipment.  There's a belt out there that you probably can't afford NOT to buy if you're in the market for one.  We talk about the Reebok power shoe mess, and give our thoughts on the different heeled shoes that you can pick between.  And how many options for different wrist wraps is too many?

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The best two Massanomics podcast hosts in the world are here again, Tommy and Tanner. What's up? So here we're back at it again. We are doing it again. I didn't call off the number of this one. Is this like 145-ish? 144? This is 144. But I mean, really, who's counting at this point?

That's true. I think everyone quit counting after 20. Because that was when it ran its course, right? They're like, oh, they're still doing that. I quit listening after the first couple. Whatever. No, we're still here. We did survive Snowmageddon, though.

We were talking about the blizzard of uh the blizzard of the year this last time on the episode and we survived it was just barely yeah like uh it was rough um the worst part is after the snowplow comes by and fills in your driveway with all of the ice chunks off of the road and you have to figure out a way to get get that out of there oh yeah do you have well you don't have the problem that well i think we've talked about this but like you saw mine is a whole nother level with the sidewalk thing like it is i looked at it today on my way and i was like there is no way to clean that off at this point in time yeah that guy's screwed there literally is not oh it's not like snow where you picture you go like oh snow

just someone dumped large blocks of ice all over your yard and somehow you're supposed to move them It's not like snow where you picture you go like, oh, snow. Just someone dumped large blocks of ice all over your yard, and somehow you're supposed to move them. But can't the city, if you don't clean off your sidewalk, can't they make you do it or tell you to do something? That's why I'm just hoping they don't realize there's a sidewalk there. What would their advice be, though? What if you're like, I can't? I don't know. That's what I don't get. If I really push that, what would they what would their advice be though what if you're like i can't i don't know that's what i don't get like if i really push that like what would it be yeah i don't know i did that one

point last winter got really bad and i just let it fill in yeah and i think everyone was just like oh there's not a sidewalk there because it never came up so you wouldn't know now what there is no yeah there's no way of knowing it's one of those mysteries yeah so i was, there's no way of knowing. It's one of those mysteries. Yeah. So I was wondering, there's a show that's really been blowing up in memes lately. Do you have a guess as to what the show is? All right, you're taking too long. I don't know. The Bird Box.

Are you familiar with this at all? I've never heard of that before. Okay, I don't know if I've never heard of that before. Okay. I have. I don't know if I've seen more memes about a show than this. What is the show? It's a movie on Netflix called Bird Box. And it's a Sandra Bullock movie.

And it's like a horror movie. So it's. I don't really follow the horror genre at all. But it's like. I'm told it's like several other movies. I think there's one. A Quiet Place. Like like john was it john krasinski from the office where in like when you can't like hear anything or like if you hear something like you can get something bad happens to you if you hear this certain thing okay in this movie bird box if you see the bad thing you like want to commit suicide

so the whole thing with the movie is they go through and this isn't spoiler i mean this is you find this out like the first couple minutes of the movie is that everyone's wearing blindfolds like you can't go anywhere without a blindfold so you watch this i watched it because everyone's like oh you gotta watch you gotta watch it like and i see all these memes it's like getting hyped up and like okay yeah this seems to be cultural like there seems to be some significance culturally to this thing. So I better watch it. So Leah and I sat down to watch it yesterday and I genuinely felt ripped off.

Like my time was stolen from me. I thought it was really bad. And so if you're a person that enjoyed that movie, we have different tastes, I guess. Because I did not enjoy it. Like Netflix has even said it's their most viewed movie in seven days ever. Is it a Netflix original? It's a Netflix original, yeah. Is it scary?

It's supposed to be like a thriller. I wouldn't use the word scary at all. I feel like I'd probably scare easy, and I would not use the word scary to describe it. Because I don't like scary movies. No, I would not use the word scary to describe this. But you wouldn't recommend it? I would also not recommend it to anyone. Why are people making memes about it?

Well, I think it's because it's so dumb. A lot of the memes I see, it's just like, because she has a blindfold on in this whole movie, basically, when they're not in their house. And so it's just like, when mom's like, did you do the dishes? And it's like her with the blindfold on. Or it's like the Ninja Turtles, and then her with the blindfold on.

Just like all this dumb stuff. and i can't help but think like there has to be some like like behind the scenes marketing going on where they're like telling they have to be paying people like bigger meme accounts like hey make memes about this because it goes so viral then you know yeah right like there's it's like that is a real thing yeah i mean it's their their influencers at the when you have a million a million followers, you have a lot of influence on people. Yeah, you make a meme about it, and all of a sudden, that's better than an ad that you'd pay for 30 seconds for on TV. Right, right.

And it's like your audience, people with Netflix, that have time to watch this stuff and are engaged with these things. Yeah, it's the perfect plan. I read somewhere to be considered a micro-influencer, you have to have at least 10,000 followers. Is that the rule, huh? We are micro-influencers. We're almost micro in a quarter.

We're micro.5 influencers almost, getting to be there. Wow. Really moving up in the world. Did you ever have micro-machines when you were a kid? You know, I had a couple. I had a couple, not many. I had some friends that had a lot. I had the van.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I had a buddy that had the van, like, flipped couple, not many. I had some friends that had a lot. I had the van. Oh yeah. Yeah. I had a buddy that had the van like flipped out and there was a track and all that stuff. Yeah. I still, that is still around actually. Is it really? Yeah. I mean, it's beat to hell, but I bet if you have like a nice one of those.

Oh, I'm sure it's worth something. Yeah. Yeah. Micro machines were pretty fun. So were they like in the world of car? I mean, there's micro machines and hot wheels. Yeah. Definitely competitors, right?

I think so. I don't think they're the same thing. Was there really any difference between them, though? Micro machines were a lot smaller. They were that much smaller? I can't even remember. Oh, yeah, micro machines were like, we're micro. It's in the name.

They were clearly not a Hot Wheel. They were about this size. And I think Hot Wheels made by Mattel, maybe? Yeah, I think so. And I don't know if micro machines are or not but i'd guess they're not because they would be cannibalizing their old sales yeah i think that seems like it so that's 1990s toys have you ever seen uh the toys that built us on no the toys that made us i have that's a good show yes that

is good some of them are better than others. It's like a four-part series. I think there's two four-part. There's kind of like the first iteration and the second iteration, so there might be eight episodes of it. Good show. I haven't watched that for quite a while, so I can't remember the different ones that are on there. But, you know, like G.I. Joe is an episode.

Barbie is an episode. Star Wars is an episode. It's almost like a lot of them are just a little bit, just slightly too old for me. Oh. You know, where it's like G.I. Joe and Star Wars and stuff. When I was a kid, I was all about that. Yeah, but like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

was like a really big toy when I was a kid, and it's just like almost five years beyond. Yeah, just missed the cut. He-Man was one of them on there. That's still slightly older than... I remember growing up and being like He-Man and in my head thinking like, this is really old.

Yeah, right. What I have been watching though, I watched a movie last night for the first time in a really long time and I don't know if this... I do not have television, so I do not ever see ads for know if this i do not have television so i do not ever see ads for movies so i do not know any i never know any movie that is out unless someone's

making some fire memes about it it pops up in your feed and even then as we can see i don't know but it was called like first player up and i think it was a steven spielberg ready player one ready player one there you go just so ready Just so on the edge of being right. So is that a popular movie? Was that recently in the theaters? Yeah, was it a year ago? I mean, it's been in the last year for sure. The reason I know about it is because my old roommates were video game freaks,

and they had read the book before anything. And then them telling me about this book and how cool it was, and then like, oh, yeah, it's going to turn into a movie, and they were so the book before anything. And then them telling me about this book and how cool it was. And then like, oh yeah, it's going to turn into a movie. And they were so jacked about it. And then if it wasn't for them, I'm not sure I would have even really known much about it. Did you watch it? I haven't seen it yet. I do want to see it, but I haven't seen it much.

I thought it was good. I mean, I liked it. It was entertaining, I think. It was kind of cool. There was a lot of references to older things that I like. Like just pop culture in general. And that was like a big theme of the movie. Do you know what it's about? I know what it's about, yeah.

Like this guy. Oasis is the virtual reality in where everyone lives in a majority of their time. And it's in the year like 2045 um and the guy that created it he's almost like i would draw a parallel to steve jobs is who this guy is like he created it and it was like his dying thing was he made this uh uh game within the the within the game that if someone won it they won and it was kind of like these hidden keys to it and everything. Yeah, I think they called it an Easter egg. It's the hidden thing within a game that you have to win. But it was really cool.

I mostly liked all the old 80s, 90s references and stuff. So that was kind of cool. But what I watch all the time, I mean mean i don't watch tv that often but if i do have uh 30 minutes what i usually will watch now is uh reruns of shark tank oh yeah so i've been certainly i feel like i've seen all of those but i also know that tv has a bad habit of playing the same ones i bet you haven't seen them all oh i know i haven't there's 10 seasons yeah and there's almost 30 oh there is oh i didn't know there was that okay So there's probably 250 episodes. Yeah. So I have like,

I, I for sure have not seen like the first, for sure. The first season, I don't think I've seen any, probably haven't really even seen the second or third. I've probably just kind of seen that sweet spot in the middle is all. I'm pretty addicted to that show.

Like I don't watch it that often, but like, I just, when I'm watching it, I like, it just always blows your mind that like people make money doing that. Huh? Like that's, there's so many times where people present an idea and I'm like, okay, is it like the $50,000 idea?

And then they're like, a million-dollar valuation. And I'm like, ah. And then they're like, okay. They almost laugh at them too and they're like, what's your financials? And they're like, oh, you're the real deal. And it just blows my mind. Do you like Shark Tank or not? I do like it and uh i mean i think it should almost be

at some point like it should almost be mandatory viewing in everyone's life just to kind of like see how like one it kind of shows you that anything is really possible if you start to put if you start to just put some effort into it and like get it out there and do do the work um and then it shows you know like anyone can really do it. You don't have to have all these connections. It helps, but you don't have to have all these connections. You don't have to have 100 grand sitting in the bank to get anything going.

Just the negotiations alone, it makes you realize that anything is negotiable. When you're talking stuff, so many people, I think you get used to just you want something, it costs this price. But there's not that. There's royalties involved like just like percentage of percentage of ownership like you know there's a lot of different things and then like it's not even like the the way that they'll want you know 10 up to a certain time and then maybe five percent

later on there's a lot of different there's a lot of ways you can yeah like you kind of don't really see that side of things unless you're negotiating business deals which i don't spend a lot of time not doing no so it is kind of it does show you that side of things unless you're negotiating business deals, which I don't spend a lot of time doing. Not doing, no. So it does show you that side of the world. Yeah. It's a cool show. One other thing, I mentioned this over Snapchat as I started watching Vice. I've seen it before, a few of them here and there, but I've started – I think there's like five or six seasons of Vice.

Like Vice News? No, not Vice News. I think it's just Vice, where it's like they're one-hour documentaries about North Korea or Afghanistan or children in the Philippines that smoke cigarettes and like these different things like that and they're really really good like the way that they're made and stuff they're like really raw yeah right right uh and also what the comment I made is it it's like man there is so much messed up stuff like going on oh god yeah everywhere it's just yeah i mean like i've been do you like

so i've i've news and vice i've been like a fan of vice in kind of weird way i mean like in some way or another for a while and like there's a lot of people that say like and you can like look more in depth on it like from journalistic standpoints like some people say they get a lot of stuff wrong and like they've like i think they had a big ordeal uh was it like five years ago or so there was the the is it the norton antivirus guy or the mcafee one of them uh-huh the guy's like known for being like a computer hacker yeah and he was like on the run from the law yeah and somehow somehow they they tracked him down and they were kind of doing like this expose on who he is. Yeah. And I guess they made the big journalistic blunder where they took a photo,

and pretty much any photo you take now has data in it that will expose key. Location. Like location for a lot of smart devices now and just other information. And the photo they took and posted, they didn't clean the data out, and so it gave away the guy's exact location. Like that was a big deal. Yeah. Sometimes people will be like, well, they're not very professional in how they handle things. But they also do, like, get in and show you, like, the side of the world that CNN isn't showing you.

That's for sure. No, they literally do stuff that, I mean, they go to North Korea. It's like, is this legal? And how is anyone going to get out alive? Yeah. Like, that's what you want to think when you watch a lot of it. You know when Dennis Rodman went to North Korea? They orchestrate. Like, that was a vice. vice oh it was through them yes really like that and they it was uh dennis rodman and three harlem globetrotters because uh kim

jong-un is a big basketball fan he's a big chicago's bolt chicago bulls fan of the 90s you know michael jordan scotty pippen denn, Dennis Rodman and they went like that was through Vice Wow I did not know that. Yeah and that was so they played a pickup basketball game with the Globetrotters Dennis Rodman didn't play he was watching but the Globetrotters and then like the best North Korean. Oh like team? Yeah whatever like they played but they intermingled on the same team and there was something it was the first nor time north korea played with uh

something about an official sporting event the first time that ever that north koreans played with like another country yeah yeah like ever because they made a big deal about that in the olympics this year that they sent like two figure skaters and it was like the first time anyone had emerged from north korea for the olympics like in 60 years or something like that north korea if you don't know much about it like i've watched a few documentaries on it's just like a black hole as far as the world goes well it literally is that when they take a satellite image of it there's no lights because they don't have electricity. Yeah, it's pretty nuts.

Yeah, and then like the stuff that they're doing too. Well, like everyone's starving and, you know, it's crazy. It is legitimately crazy what's going on there. Yeah, it is. On a lighter topic though, on Vice, on the actual TV. You said there was something that you really liked. I was going to say, like the ones that I like, and well, they do have actually, a lot of people if you're into strength sports

have probably seen this one. They have the Giants of Iceland. Oh, yeah. That's a Vice documentary. But Action Bronson has a cooking show. Fuck, that's delicious. It's really, really good. And I'm an Action Bronson fan.

Anyways, so that one's always a classic. I'm trying to think what the other one is. It's like Ancient, it's not, really good, and I'm an Action Bronson fan. Anyways, so that one's always a classic. I'm trying to think what the other one is. It's like Ancient – it's not Ancient Aliens, but it's basically Action Bronson. They all sit in front of a green screen and smoke the whole time. There's crazy stuff going on. That one's just funny to watch. It's not the guy from the History Channel that's like – No, but they still are doing kind of that same stuff.

They're doing really dumb stuff. I'm a big fan of Hamilton's Pharmacopia. This is really weird, nerdy, super skinny guy, and he just goes and follows. Usually it's psychedelic drug stuff and follows people on these crazy adventures with whatever they're doing. The other day I saw one on, and I didn't know this was a real thing actually. It talks about this toad in Mexico. I think South Park park or someone has made jokes about like yeah you lick the toad and you get high or whatever but this actual toad they go in and they like squeeze pus out of the toad and then you can like i can't remember if they just take that directly or if it's a process

that that goes through but basically it's like there's DMT in there, which is like this super trippy drug. Yeah. And like a psychedelic kind of. And people will then smoke it, vaporize it, smoke it, and just have these crazy experiences. And they're showing these people smoking this thing with this guy that's leading them on the trip, standing in some river canyon. And the people start passing out, foaming,uking at the like puking foaming at the mouth like completely losing it and you can tell those guys like getting scared

and then he does it and like supposedly it was like this huge profound experience but um it's always interesting to see those they're really out there yeah um so it's like shane smith on any of those like in that stuff you know he's the he's like the founder of vice or whatever i don't think he's really around i actually don't even know what he looks like do you know yeah he's uh got like he's not that old he's maybe in his 40s but he's got like a gray yeah there you go i don't know i've ever seen kind of a little bit heavier i did listen to his uh um they had a uh what's that show again that That podcast? How I Built This. They do have a How I Built This with him.

That's right. I forgot about that. I did listen to that, but I never knew what he looked like. I don't know who that guy is. I mean, I know he's the Vice guy, but I've never seen him before. He's got a kind of particular voice, too. When he talks, you can pick it out. Yeah, that's him.

Crazy. Okay, there's one other show I have to because we're just talking it out. Yeah, that's him. Crazy. Okay, there's one other show I have to, because we're just talking about shows. There's one other thing. I can never remember if you said, do you watch Black Mirror? I've never seen it before. Okay, Black Mirror. And that's on what, Netflix?

And that might be, like I've said, other shows are my favorite. Like I've always said Breaking Bad and like True Detective season one are probably my two favorite shows of all time. Black Mirror might just take the cake for my favorite show of all time because it's like this very real techno paranoia about what probably is going i mean yeah what will happen if worst case scenario works out um but and then they're just really they're really like smart and ahead of things and just like they're really good at just looking just ahead. But they did just come out with a new movie. A movie? Or a new show.

All their episodes are. There's no. You can start watching Black Mirror in any episode. They're not connected. They're all their own thing. So they just treat them all. They think of them all as short films or movies. And they're like an hour long usually?

Yeah, right around an hour. Some are a little less. Some are a little more. But they just came out with one. And it was really unique in the way that it is a choose-your-own-ending style adventure. So do you use the remote? So you use the remote. And I thought, okay, you'll get like four choices.

No, you probably make, depending on how you do it, 40 to 50 choices in this thing. So does it make you want to watch it more than once? So I don't know. It took me a little over two hours to do it the first time. And I was like, ah, that's probably enough because I'll just go online and Google what the other stuff is. And after I did that, I'm like, all right, I think I got a good enough idea that I don't need to spend two or three more hours going through this thing over and over again. But it is a really cool way to consume media. I guess from what I was reading, Netflix does have kids shows

that do things like that. That would make sense. But this is the first time they've done anything like this with more of an adult format. Yeah, right. And it was really, really interesting. I would still prefer, though,

I would still prefer to just sit back and just watch and let the movie go. But it's a different way of consuming. I would recommend someone that's looking for a fun experience or you get some people together, like do it. That's what would be fun to get with multiple people. Make some choices. And you can't really mess it up too bad because, I mean,

if you get far enough and you kind of go on a dead end, they will kick you back to where you can make choices again. But even then, the choices might be different the next time, which it kind of keeps you on your toes. And it does a good job of kind of like making this whole like paranoia weird thing and it kind of brings up the whole time the question of like free choice and and you know free will and thought and all this stuff so i'd recommend that one to someone if they got some time on their hands i do keep meaning to watch to try that actually i actually like it so much i saw a book for it the other day we were at target

and i saw they had a hardcover book for behind like but i think it was called behind black mirror like i have to buy this i like it too much i have to do this so so did you get it i did get it and i read i mean they just talk about each episode like behind the scenes and uh i mean i got through this was just yesterday but i got through a couple of them like oh that's pretty cool yeah um that choice thing reminds me of something. You know the infographics that have to do with lifting where it would be like, should you – what would the example be? It would be like, should you max out today? It's like, have you maxed out in the last week?

Then it goes to the different choices, and oftentimes it all leads back to – It all just leads to the same thing, like, yes, you should max out today. So that's a pure joke one, but I've also seen some of them that are, like, a little more serious. Like, maybe telling you, like, whether you should pull sumo or whether you should pull conventional or something. Like, do you think those are necessary? You know, actually, be on the lookout. I think we should just make some memes of those. It's like, should you buy a Mass dynamics uh yeah buddy shirt yeah that's uh

they're also dumb yeah so is that kind of what it was like and at the end of it it was like yes you should max out yes that's really what it came down to is yeah you should max out that's really what it came down to do we uh do we want to talk about some lifting product here we could get into our so what as we were deciding uh what the topic of the day was going to be we had a couple ideas and we realized they're all uh kind of related around some some lifting products that are out there for purchase uh maybe some newer products some stuff we talked about before but different things that have developed with that so we decided the episode will be about lifting products

and you know we've already talked for 20 minutes we have 25 minutes of ads in store today so we'll get 5 to 10 minutes of product talk in here but we also at the end we have about 10 minutes of segments so we really today's topic of the day we're not going to talk about.

So that's it. We're on to the next thing now. Well, I suppose we'll give it a little time. Yeah. So the first thing that I thought was, okay, the Reebok Power Shoe. Yeah. The fabled, mysterious. Reebok TR Lite.

Yeah. Yeah. CrossFit TR, mysterious. Reebok TR Lite. Yeah. Light TR. Yeah, CrossFit TR, whatever you want to call it. You know, this thing, it does have kind of a legendary spot in the sport, I would say. Like, there was definitely a point in time where a lot of people had it. Yeah. We both own. I own a pair.

You own multiple pairs. I still own that. You've only worn one, but you own. New in box pair which is worth uh yeah a good amount that i could sell on ebay but it is worth more to me to keep yes i and if i were you i would do the same like i kind of wish i didn't do that i kind of wish i would own the same thing and bought two like i bought i wish i would have bought a thousand of them because i bought them for 30 bucks a pair it's like well that's like a disposable shoe at that point you

know and you can sell them now for a lot more than that. Yeah, and at the rate it's going, no one's going to be making a good lifting shoe or just a good flat, wide shoe anytime soon. That seems to be impossible to do. But anyway, so with this shoe, though, it's always been rumored that it's coming back, it's coming back, and in fact, we have talked to Jesse Burdick at the Arnold two years in a row. Yeah, not once, but twice. And he's told us very soon, very soon, we're getting to Jesse Burdick at the Arnold two years in a row. Yeah, not once, but twice.

And he's told us very soon, very soon, we're getting dangerously close to the third year here, and it's still like not. I mean, there's signs of it on the horizon. It was fun. We're looking forward to actually running into him at the Arnold. That will be one of my highlights is to see Jesse Burdick and be like, so we got a question for you.

And for him to be like, no, guys. He's going to be like, get the hell out of here. Because this last year he. He said, yep, guys, he's going to be like, get the hell out of here. Because this last year, he said, yep, I knew you were going to ask that. So at this point, it will just be the joke for the rest of our lives. So they did a really limited

release. Was this like this past summer? Like Mark Bell had them for sale on his website for like $170 or something. Of this one color scheme. They didn't really look good. They're like zebra like zebra black yeah and on top of that they're the crossfit reebok tr lights like they're not a pair of jordans or anything like really stylish that you're gonna wear people are gonna want that bad um but it's mark bell and he can hype things up

and he sold them in no time you know he probably had like 10 pairs of each or whatever but right but yeah he made some good money off of those i would say and then it was like yep more coming more coming more coming and you'd see pictures of um well then just the other day i see brandon campbell post a photo and it was like what was it something versus our reality versus expectations yeah yeah and it was the one he ordered which is intolerable she was mostly black and then had like a gum soul yeah and it was the one he ordered, which is a tolerable. She was mostly black, and then it had like a gum sole. Yeah. And it was pretty unoffensive, I would say.

Right. Which I think most people is what they're looking for in a lifting shoe. Right. And the one he got had the really nasty, I think Reebok calls it their nano weave. And that's that like zebra pattern. And I don't like that. So it was black with the Reebok nano weave down the side, which looks like white vertical stripes on a gumsoul, which is completely different than what he had got. Yeah.

And reading the post, it sounded like Reebok didn't even know what was going on with that. So I think, like, yeah, he called customer service and stuff, and they had literally no, like, he didn't even know what he was talking about. Yeah, they probably didn't know what the shoe is. No, they didn't. Like, you could tell by the way he was talking about. Yeah, they probably don't even know what the chew is. No, they didn't. Like, you could tell by the way he was talking that they were, what they said. And they had no idea whatsoever. And I think he just ended up keeping them then. He just said, oh.

I would assume. But didn't he pay like $100 or something like that for $120? I think they were $100 maybe. But they literally did not. It would be like if you ordered a car in blue. Or no, it would be like if you ordered a black car and it came with pinstriping on the entire thing. Right. Definitely not what I ordered.

Well, he literally, you can put the two pictures next to each other and anyone, if you're not blind, could tell that there's something off there. Yeah. So I feel bad for him. Yeah. And I feel bad that Reebok can't get it figured out. They really do not have it figured out. Like, just make a plain shoe. Like, people don't want anything crazy.

I'm just making, like, I thought the version 2s looked way better because they were plain. Like, the version 1s tried to do this crazy thing with the letters. And with those ones, the ones that looked the best were the ones that made the letters disappear because they were all in solid color. Yes, exactly. And with the second version, they figured that out, made it super plain, and then they thought they needed to add some crazy patterns, and that kind of killed it again. I think yours are the second ones.

Yeah. And I think the ones that I have in the box are the same color scheme. You have the dark gray, I think, because I had the, like, it's almost white. It's super light gray. Right, and mine's a little bit darker than that. Yeah, because didn't Ross get the dark gray ones too? I think we have the same color. Him and I have the same.

Because we could get them even cheaper. We got them down to like $28 a pair if we ordered them together. But they do not really don't have that figured out yet. No. Well, I mean, they're only one of the bigger shoe companies in the world, so they're still figuring out the... At this point point adidas or nike needs to take that and make their own adidas owns reebok oh yeah like so i don't get i mean i

just don't get why one of them hasn't just made a shoe like yeah for nike it's no big deal to just make any shoe in the world right let's do it but maybe the market is so tiny even though it's like to us we think a lot of lifters want it maybe Maybe it's just minuscule. But I also think, like, what's the market for, like, discus shoes? Right. I mean, do they sell 10,000 pairs of discus shoes, you know? There'd have to be a bigger market. Or, like, shot put shoes? Yeah.

I mean, maybe the best of the best high schoolers get them, and then, you know, like your collegiate athletes probably do. I had a pair of As6 discus shoes yeah spin spin shoes no would you say that's the uh if you had adidas or nikes what would have put you over the um the nike ones that they had at the time were pretty sweet yeah but they were considerably more expensive so i did not go with it as a high schooler yeah when i was a little bit more price well because now price doesn't matter to you at all right you just buy anything also still not also still not true but um yeah i probably would

the asics didn't have probably the coolest look to them yeah that's trash shoes though you know discus shoes in general don't have the coolest look i think you got a point there but lifting shoes in general like talking about the color scheme thing i wish and this goes for i'm probably more so talking about lifters now because that's what there's more of we say that you're just talking about race yeah race heel shoes they should keep the color schemes simpler and more normal yeah like just make like some white shoes some black shoes and then a couple colors and when we say a couple colors like don't make a couple that have 10 colors like make like a red pair yeah like the closest to anyone that i think that anyone got to figuring out was like the romaleos twos yes like those were like they just made a lot of

colors for the most part they were all pretty plain like not a lot um they just made a lot of colors. For the most part, they were all pretty plain, like not a lot. But there was a lot of options to pick from. And like we've seen a lot of the options, you know, because we've known a lot of people that have had them. The Addy Powers or whatever, like those, the ones that I have, when I was looking, there was white and there was black with red. They only had two options. They used to have that weird off-red kind of tomato-y color, which I actually thought was kind of cool, but it wasn't available when I was looking. So when I was looking, there was two colors. And then as time went on, over the years, they introduced like an all-black one.

They did – we'll get into your color in a second here. But like they maybe had – I don't know. Was there eight colors over the life of that entire shoe? Yeah, probably tops. There wasn't many. They didn't do it. And I guess, yeah, they're probably not selling many of them. But they just didn't do a lot.

But now, we were talking about this, and you said that you finally jumped on the bandwagon here with these things, huh? Yeah, I ordered a pair of Adi Powers. Very hard to find, though. Very hard to find. And I did not notice until you were saying it that they don't really make them anymore no i don't i don't think they do make them anymore so the where you go to buy them so like if you want to get the white ones that you have the white with like they have like a little bit of gray or black on them striping or something those ones unless you're i don't know a size 5 or a size 19 you can't get those i'd really like those black all

black ones those don't exist at all that I could see unless you're size 16 plus and I think those were a pretty small release because that was kind of more towards the end here anyways like that would be a pop don't a lot of people would like you would like and this is why I know lifting shoes are getting bigger I don't think five years ago you would have found

a pair of lifting shoes in an East Bay ever I don't even know why I get East Bay magazines I don't think I've bought anything from them in like 10 years. For some reason, I do get them. Or why they still send out a magazine. Or why they still send out a print magazine. That's the other crazy thing. Their business model kind of got like a –

I think I'm pretty sure like Foot Locker, I think East Bay Foot Locker and Champs are all the same company because if you look at shoes for any one of them, it's the same across them all they're like all of our business models are failing can we put them all together and figure out one that's one that can compete with Amazon

just waiting on that next Jordan release to keep sales going but I've actually it's not uncommon now pretty much every time I get an e-spay I do look through it more for like design things than anything but they have lifters in it almost every issue now, which seems really, really bizarre to me. Like, even a few years ago, that would have been strange. Yeah. And so they must sell enough of them.

And the fact that they're also, you know, like, $150 to $200 shoe, it's probably a pretty high margin item for them, too, I would assume. Right. The color that I ended up getting, because it was one of two colors that i could find in my size one color option was like white with mint and i did not like it at all like i really i don't see you in that functionality like i wouldn't wear it because it just really didn't look good the other one wasn't my favorite but i could make it work it i don't and you saw it i don't know what you call it. It has a gum sole. And to me, it's almost like an army green gray or something. Yeah, what's the official name for this color here? They call it...

Well, they're not going to tell us there. We'll try one more here. You wouldn't want to put the color on the product info like that yeah you don't want to just be out there trace cargo okay that's what they call it and it's not bad it is actually there is like actually uh like a green part to it there isn't it i didn't even notice that yep yeah i mean they're pretty they're pretty unoffensive, I would say. Right, right. They don't really stand out for any reason, good or bad. Right, right. But Addy Powers are hard to find, super hard to find. And Nike Romaleo 2s, which I was also interested in,

also very hard to find in normal people sizes. Because Nike makes the 3 now. And that's been around a little while but from the research i found a lot of people like the two better and the the two better than the three yeah and the two has two straps whereas the three only has the one foot strap and i think the threes look really cool they do they look like really futuristic yeah i i like the way they look but when i as i was doing my homework on it, a lot of people, the heel is different than how they made the two.

You can just see even by looking at it, it's different. And at the end of the day, it probably doesn't make that much of a difference, of course. Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, we're talking pounds on the PR here. And I don't even know if we are talking that, but just from what we... K pounds on the PR here. And I don't even know if we are talking that. Kilos on the PR. And actually, just from a durability standpoint, a lot of people said the 3s are not as durable as the 2s were. So that was kind of like, well, if I'm spending $100 to $200 on a pair of shoes,

I kind of want them to last for a really long time. Yep. Yeah, my white addy powers like with the with the exception of wearing them enough like that they got kind of sweaty and so certain parts of them like the mesh has kind of gotten almost like sweat stained and the shoe itself shoe itself is completely fine and you're you're and i actually only wear them on like bench days anyways at this point like i kind of quit wearing them for yourting. But your Reebok TR lights, they've held up. Yeah, they've actually held up.

Mine seem like brand new still, too. And I only wear them in the gym. They've never been outside the gym. And if you do that with shoes, I don't get how they would get destroyed wearing them just in the gym. No. I'm not playing a basketball game and cutting in them and stopping and going. Yeah. But I have noticed the sole, the sole on them.

And I think this is good. It was pretty thin in the first place, but now just wearing them enough. I mean, the sole is so thin, like the tiniest little pebble in the gym. I can feel it through the sole on those shoes. There's nothing to them. So at this point, it really is like I'm wearing a slipper with this upper on it. Which, yeah, it's good. There's nothing wrong with that.

But I think Nike has it figured out on the color scheme. If you look at some of those shoes, they have some really – They do, yeah. They all look – the shoe itself looks really cool. Yeah. But what is with the neon color in lifting shoes that – Well, that's just like Nike in general, though. Okay.

That's kind of their – what are they? Volt? Yeah, they call it Volt. Okay. And that's just – I mean, they just kind of have that in everything. Yeah. But, but even that one looks good. Looks pretty good.

It actually does. The vault of black, like pretty good. Like does Shane still have the all vault? He sold those to someone else. Oh, he did? Cause those ones. I would have, I had the opportunity to buy those from him and I should have. And I, it just takes me months and months to pull the trigger on anything that costs,

uh, more than $20. I know what you mean. I actually was having this dilemma with my wife tonight with plane tickets. And I was like, you know what? We've gotten bit before. Just buy the freaking tickets and we'll figure out the rest later. Like, do it now. Are you releasing where you're going?

I have to go to Florida for a wedding in April. So it's not, I mean, it's nothing crazy. Yeah. At least it's florida i guess and not be i mean you could fly up here in the winter time that'd be terrible so yeah you know and but the big thing there is we're flying out of town locally and it's cheaper than other places cheaper than driving which for us is huge it's not too often we can fly out of our hometown. No, right. And then the fact that we don't pay for parking or any of that stuff, that's a big win.

Because normally we drive five hours to get on a plane. Oh, yeah, three to five hours. You don't drive less than three hours to get on a plane. Right, right. And at that point, okay, you spend a whole day in a car, and the last thing, like when we went to Hawaii, the last thing you want to do after you've been on a plane for 12 hours is drive five more hours the getting back is the worst but somehow we do it so yeah when you get the chance to fly locally it's really nice

yes so that's kind of our lifter uh lifting shoe discussion is there any other any other i i was gonna say reebok uh on the lifters have a lot of ridiculous colors yeah they have like the legacy lifter yeah i don't even i don't want like bright gold uh yeah i'm not i'm not setting the gold standard here like i'm just kind of over reebok as a company it's kind of pissed me off with how they uh you can't figure out like the one shoe that i would really ever want from them but yeah i mean they're i it just doesn't do it for me. It's not good enough for me. And if you really want to get into the finer details,

Tyler did have a pretty exotic collection of lifters. He had some other brands outside of the norm. I think his position was the one that he always freaked out about. Yeah, he had the blue suede position ones with the wood sole. Yeah. He had those, which that is a pretty crazy shoe. And didn't he? He also had a pair of Romaleo 2s.

Yeah. He had the black and red ones. They were all black with the red swoosh. Oh, yeah. The red swoosh. Yeah. Because Larry has the red ones with the black swoosh on them. Yeah.

Tyler had the black with the red. Megan had the orange ones. Yeah. And I want to say. Shane had the neon yellow ones. them. Tyler had the black with the red. Megan had the orange ones. And I want to say... Shane had the neon yellow ones. Yeah, she had the neon yellow ones. Chuck has... The black ones with the red. We're just naming our gym members of what color she's in.

Yeah, doesn't Big Jason have a pair? Yeah, he's got black. All black with the white outlined logo. Yeah. Which I was interested in that color. That fits my criteria too but i think that's what everyone that has a pair of those in the gym yeah you could talk to brandon see if you get his black and red ones yeah yeah i but he probably wears a size like black black and red are like

the colors that i like in things but that black and red it's not the best i don't don't really like it that the way that it is i don't really like uh i i yeah i wasn't a fan i mean i'm not hating them but i just don't if i'm picking i don't really like black and red's one that's really hard to get wrong yeah like i kind of feel like they did they didn't get it right right i'm not gonna say they completely got it wrong but they did get it right i agree um okay enough shoe talk for now the the other thing that's our... One thing, I think this is a big win for people that are... Let's move it up the body. Yeah, we'll move slightly up the body,

more to your midsection, if you want to follow us that far. Pioneer, belt maker extraordinaire. I've heard of them. You know, everyone loves Pioneer, a Pioneer belt. If anyone could make a complaint about Pioneer, it's probably that when you order your belt that you want so bad, you're going to be waiting four to six weeks,

maybe more depending on what time of year. You know, as a businessman, it's a great problem to have. That's probably really the only complaint. I think that is about the only thing. I mean, if you really, really wanted to complain, you could say they're not IPF approved, but I think you kind of know what you're getting into at this point. Yeah, right.

But in order to solve this problem, they've actually came up with two solutions here, and they've made like a stock, an in-stock, ready-to-go belt, and it looks really good. I really like that belt. I do really like it. Like the typeface that he has on the back looks awesome. It's got like a classy, do really like it. Like, the typeface that he has on the back looks awesome. It's got, like, a classy, mean look to it. The leather. It's, like, embossed in the leather.

Like, it looks good. And it's ready to go, which is another. I mean, that's the huge win. But then on top of that, it's only $79.99. Yeah. Like, that's. $80 for a really nice belt. Yeah, to me, that's like a. And it's a Pioneer cut.

Yeah, it's a Pioneer cut, and it's a really nice. Yeah. To me, that's like a pioneer cut. Yeah. It's a pioneer cut and it's a 10 millimeter, which I really like the ones that I've used that I like the most are their 10 millimeter ones. I love their 10 millimeter belts. Yup. And then single, yeah. Pioneer,

pioneer cut single prong. You know, you get those extra spacing. Like that's a good, good belt for 79 bucks. What a part of me wants to do is... Get one for the gym? Well, not get one for the gym.

Get like three for the gym of three different sizes. So there would kind of be one that would fit anyone. But everyone in the gym is just big, so we only need one size, I think. That's true. I'll just get one for Excel. Actually, what would happen is there would be the one size that would get used 90% of the time, the other one that would get used 9% of the time, the other one that would get used 9% of the time, and the one that would get used 1% of the time.

One of them would look brand new forever. But I do think if you did get one that fits about the 30 to 38-inch. Oh, yeah, like the 200 to the 260-ish pound guys, I think that one would get used heavily. And for only $80. It's like you almost can't afford to not get one so yeah i i do if people missed that didn't see that in there um i mean that is like the the deal yeah we're obvious if you've listened to us long enough you know that

we're obviously pioneer fans and we've uh did a big interview with matt back in the day and but all that aside this is just a really good deal for a really cool belt and i want one of them you know like yeah the other ways if you do really want a pioneer belt and for some reason you don't like the brown leather there are other ways to get around it too because they also do the a7 belts oh yeah they make those which are ipf approved but they're they're branded as a7 so they get around with it so those are probably i'm sure it's someplace in stock yeah um you can get those there's others elite fts is uh pioneer belts yep and i think and then i think uh all

the rogue branded belts are the rogue brand there are rogue branded belts that are pioneer it says it says on the website i believe that actually says this is a a pioneer belt okay um that's cool i didn't know that i've seen him make comments about it in the past so i'm assuming that like i mean that looks exactly like one of their belts uh let's see if they actually say that it's pioneer it doesn't say there but i mean it looks exactly like one of their belts. But I would, you know, I'd rather, I mean, this is just a personal thing, but I'd much rather rep the belt that says Pioneer on the back. Oh, yeah.

I would too, that Rogue, yeah. Rogue is almost like a faceless company. It's becoming that. It really is. And then on top of that, I'd rather just give my support to Pioneer anyways than Rogue. I don't think Rogue's hurting in the money department by any means. No. You know?

Did we ever talk about this kind of thing? There's a Pioneer belt right there. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't think we ever talked about this. And they kind of, to me, kind uh brush this under the radar and like brush this under the rug and pretend it went away but rogue kind of got into a little bit uh caught a little heat online for their whole they tried to kind of or they did trademark the word strongman did they yeah which doesn't seem possible and i don't understand the exact uh you know the legal

details behind it and what they didn't do but i know after the fact um what's his name the guy that owns rogue uh yeah i can't think of it now either i follow him on instagram i know but it's not dave is it i can't remember bill bill henninger it's just a regular guy's name bill he they kind of sounded like they backtracked a little bit i think they did yeah if people don't know what we're talking about, basically Rogue trademarked the word strongman. Don't know how that ever passed, but they trademarked the word strongman to the point that I believe the initial like trademark papers or filing made it sound like anyone that sold anything with the word strongman in the title would be infringing on their trademark. anything with the word strongman in the title would be infringing on their trademark, which obviously takes a cut at a huge chunk of the market,

being that strongman is an actual sport. So now anything that's strongman belt, strongman sleeve, strongman stone, strongman sandbags, I think that's where the whole thing started. And so people were freaking out about it. And he kind of backtracked and said, like, oh, no, no, like the legal department went way too wide on this. Like I didn't mean it to be this broad. Like it really was just to protect like things that we have patents on or like designs that we've made like sandbags. The sandbag because at the World's Strongest Man, not the big World's Strongest Man, the world's strongest man,

not the big world's strongest man, but like the one for all the other weight classes for men and women this year, there was a, what we've seen at the Arnold, that kind of last couple of years. Yeah. With the sandbags, the one that Mark Henry was just hyping up

to be the next fitness revolution, which I guess is starting to be made by other people now. But cerebrus. Yeah. Cerberus. Cerberus. Yeah. Still not up on your Greek mythology. No, no. starting to be made by other people now um but cerebrus yeah i don't server a server us yeah i don't i still not up on your greek mythology no um they made one that looks very similar to that and i think that's part of where this stems from is that they kind of were and i get it like i'm sure they're probably going through the same thing with titan like oh we make something and then yeah

titan comes along and does it and but then everyone says, well, what's that company that, like, Brandon Lilly and Matt Vincent, that equipment manufacturer. A lot of people say that Rogues steal. Oh, I'm sure there's some of it all going around. Sorenex. Oh, yes. Yeah, yep, yep. And a lot of people say that, well, Rogues just stealing what they're doing.

I can't imagine there's one person in this whole thing that can say that they've never, ever looked at anyone else's design and felt inspired or done something else. And if you did say that, I'd say you're an idiot. Right. Sore Necks and the Fat Bells. Donnie Thompson, they went through a whole thing with that. And I think still kind of are going through a thing with that a little bit. But, yeah, I mean, everyone rips everyone else off and so then you had to take the stance of saying that well we just own all of it now it's a little bold yeah so we'll see how that plays

out but yeah ever since then it's been things have been pretty quiet i haven't seen much happen yeah on that side of things um the last piece to cover here yeah and i didn't need it you had to bring this to my attention. I was like shocked here. Actually, I think we were both shocked when we looked at it. You know, I'll be the first to admit,

I don't keep super close tabs on Mark Bell anymore. You know, he makes some power moves here with his IPF approval and all that. And I just know he has stuff coming out, but you're like, have you looked at how many reps Mark has? Mark Bell has lately. And I'm like, no, I haven't. And so we went to the website and once we got on the website uh that's uh markbellslingshot.com i clicked on the straps wraps and support tab and there was

10 of them i was like uh maybe that sounds right but here's reading through. This is the wrist strap lineup. Gangster Flex wrist straps. That's one. Gangster wrist straps. That's two. Power wrist straps. That's three. Stretchy wrist straps.

That's four. Slingshot wrist straps. That's five. Strong wrist straps. That's six. And that's it for the wrist wraps but then there's basically that exact same thing for neat for knee wraps too right um is there is there a reason for the world to have six different wrist wraps from one company like i i mean to me even like even like multiple sizes almost seems kind of dumb.

Yeah, right. It's just like, well, whatever. But I don't even get it. Like, it's so weird. Like, either you have the wrap on, and it's either tight or it's not tight. Yeah. And it's either doing its thing or it's not doing its thing, right? I guess he hasn't sent me a box of wraps, so i don't know the finer points of all of them but

it seems insane like when you read them out loud yeah the uh and i don't think any of his are this way like the one i'm going to describe but someone at the gym had a pair of pioneer ones that were you know you and i both have a pair of gangster wraps from that are many years old you know four or five years old and you know what those are like. They're kind of softer. Yep. They almost look like a mesh on the outside. Yeah.

Well, someone at the gym had a pair of super aggressive Pioneer ones. Ross actually has them now. He bought them from someone else because they didn't like them. And they do not feel like Gangster Rraps or any of these other ones. Like they're so stiff? They are insanely stiff. Do you know, are they like the Phantom ones? That might be what they're black and silver.

Yes, they are black and silver. I don't know if that's the Phantoms. Yeah, whatever those are called. And those are a different product. Yeah. So I can see that those. It is really like canvas wrapped around your. And I mean, it gets to the point where it feels like uh you could use it as a

tourniquet to like make your hand fall off if you wanted to so i do understand that that is a different product than well and so that's different chuck has the have you ever chuck has the strong wrist wraps okay and they're they're they're way more along the lines of that like super super stiff okay but even that i i wouldn't be surprised if those Pioneer ones are just stiffer anyways. Yeah, they're very stiff. Like the stiffest that you can have a wrist strap, I believe. But I don't know when you tighten, crank any of them down, they kind of have a stiff. Is there any advantage to it?

Like I guess maybe if you bench over 700, like maybe you might notice. But, I mean, you've benched almost 500. Have you ever felt like your wrist strap was the limiting factor? No. I don't think anyone – I mean, Julius Maddox benches 700 without a wrist strap on. So, like, it's, you know. But I guess the thing is, is there a need for six different ones? But the other thing is, people are buying them.

Yeah. So, I guess his answer would be, yes, there is, because people are buying six different ones, and that sounds great for me. Or, or you know like yeah i mean that's all that's all it can be yeah just oh my wrist strap is getting kind of old well he does have a new one it is probably a good time to buy one well there's definitely the people that oh mark bell made it yeah right now right but that is that is pretty crazy and then even just to show like how um how it feels like the whole line is getting diluted. I mean, you can look at the hip circle. To me, that's a product that, you know, they're pretty similar.

Like, if you want it tighter, don't just buy a smaller size. If you want more resistance. But I can't even find it again now, what the category was. Yeah, okay, the hip circle. Hip circle, there's the hip circle, the grippy hip circle, the hip circle 2.0, the big-ass hip circle, and if you're not sure, there's the hip circle sport pack. And I'm guessing there's multiple sizes for every one of these, right? I'm sure.

There's multiple colors, multiple sizes. That's a lot of inventory of... Of 50-cent pieces of canvas from China. So that's great. Like, he just has a lot. He has a lot of... I mean, really, he... I mean, we can't really talk

because we do the same thing a lot, but, I mean, for selling slingshots, hip circles, sleeves, and wraps, you think, like, well, if there was three of those each that's 12 products but oh he is so far past that yeah like sleeves alone he has not nine sleeves and that's general style then when you get like i didn't even know somebody existed So I knew about the strong knee sleeves. There's the grippy X knee sleeve, the extreme X knee sleeve, the slingshot 2.0 knee sleeve, the sport knee sleeve. I had never even heard of that one.

And that's just one that you can just kind of wear around. I've heard it on this. Not necessarily squatting. It's just like give you a little bit of warmth, not as much support as the other ones. You just wear it for a CrossFit workout workout or i guess whatever you got to do there's the mb3 usa strong sleeve and then the uh elbow i'm actually amazed he doesn't have like 10 different kinds of elbow sleeves because i only see the uh strong elbow sleeves and the sport elbow sleeves. And the MB3 elbow sleeve.

Man. A lot of options. I feel educated now. A lot of gear. Yep. Keep you going. That's what it takes to keep you in one piece these days. I have thought about getting my wrist straps.

You know, the thumb loop is kind of broken on. It is broken on yours are ancient yeah like you've pretty much had those ever since i've known you they've probably you know we're in 2019 now i would think i had them in 2014 i would you know and uh so that i would guess i have about five years and i'm but still they're then i'm like yeah i can make them work like and then i'm like tighten them down what would a newer pair do better it would look nicer they're gonna smell the same after about a month anyways i could get a get a black pair and get rid of this blue pair that because it was the only color that was made at the time you know and uh you know i'd probably

get a pair from pioneer or something but then i then I'm like, yeah, these are fine. Yeah. That's kind of what it comes down to. That's kind of where I'm at with lifting gear, too. These are the same. It's not really going to help me, so whatever. Do we got some other features here? Yeah, we got our...

We should talk about the open powerlifting stat of the week, I think. Oh, one of those? Yeah, we're back on the open Powerlifting Stat of the Week, I think. Oh, one of those? Yeah, we're back on the Open Powerlifting Stat of the Week. Do you know what this week's stat is? Have you seen it? I have not. Okay. You're in for a surprise, Len.

On this week's Open Powerlifting Stat of the Week on the Mathsonomics Podcast, we have the current number one for the 5-year-old to 12-year-old age division. What? Yeah. So that would be the youngest age division, five to 12 years old. And this is for the men, and it's sorted by total. So the number one is Jewel. Or wait, am I a male or female?

Okay, this is male. His name is Jewel Dolce III. He totaled 980 pounds at the age of 12. That's pretty good. Yeah, body weight of 182. Oh, so he's a big boy, though. Yeah, for a big 12-year-old. He squatted 365.

Pretty good. Yeah. For 12 years old. Yes. Benched 215. Yeah. So that's pretty good. And dead For 12 years old. Yes. Bench 215. Yeah. So that's pretty good. And deadlifted 400 pounds.

Okay, 12 years old. That is like sixth grade? I think so. Something like that. Dang. That's pretty impressive. Yeah. That is.

I was expecting those numbers to be way lower than that. And this was raw, no wraps. The federation was WNP wnpf not sure what that is but so he's definitely not maddie then i don't even know numbers like that in an untested federation oh man and then the flip side is on the female side five to twelve year old uh age division the current number one is ah these names canyon or kenyan uh coontz who totaled 735 pounds at the age of 12 so no no surprise that both of them yeah yeah it makes sense that's right yeah age body weight of 196 pounds she squatted 275 benched 140 and deadlifted 320 pounds so a 12 year old girl deadlifted more than three plates that's really impressive yeah i mean the fact that anyone 12 could i just assumed 12 year olds couldn't do that at all and that was in the spf wow

the 12 year old boy that just like these numbersting. Do they have the year on that? Like, is that recent or? It doesn't have the year. Well, you know what? We can just look him up. I'm curious if he's gone on to have more meets. Yeah. What is his name?

J-U-L-E is his first name, Jewel, and D-O-L-C-I. The third. Here we go. No, that meat was from this. Okay. Yeah, that's his only meat at age 12. So we're potentially looking at the future Ray Williams. Yeah.

Squatting 365 is pretty impressive because I'm not sure how old I was the first time I squatted that much. But I see a lot of people that lift for a long time that don't squat that much. Yeah, most people don't squat that much. Benching nearly two plates and then deadlifting 400 pounds. I've seen a lot of grown men that work at it for a long time that cannot deadlift 400 pounds. Dang. Shocking. Yeah. So that's uh open power lifting stat of the week uh on the massonomics podcast yeah provided by the team at open power lifting uh open power lifting you can support them though in in a number of ways i see they do offer shipping worldwide now yeah so if you're

one of our uh foreign podcast listeners you could be purchasing yourself an open powerlifting shirt i'm still trying to get myself one of those it's just it just hasn't quite kept up on that um what uh what uh what other ways do they have uh they have a Patreon account. You can go on, hook them up there. Very modest amounts. Either $1 or $3 a month, and they let you do some cool things. Pimp out your name, get some colors going, all that. Teaser here. I don't know

what exactly the stat's going to be, but one of the future stats is going to be this was an idea from Tristan over at Open Powerlifting. He wanted to all the mass dynamics gym members he's going to verify all make sure everything was accurate and then he was going to put together some stats okay yeah he was asking about it i didn't know for sure what was going on

yeah that so i don't and i don't know what he's what what he's thinking for sure but i thought that that was a really cool idea just to see see how superior Larry is to everyone else at the gym. Needs to see it in writing. See how little progress we've all made. Actually, we all had one or two good years. Man, things really leveled off in a hurry. That's life. That's lifting naturally.

When it goes good, it lasts for just a little bit. With moderate genetics. With moderate potential at best. That sums it up. So thanks, Open Powerlifting team. Now, we've got a few other segments here. I do want to see if – I can't remember if – I can't even myself remember right now if we had big lifts,

if I had anything in there for big lifts or not. Oh, well, couldn't have been that big if we don't see it. Oh, the one thing I do know what I've had in there now that – this was actually not from this week. I think it was the week prior, but I forgot we didn't talk about it. Did you see Vlad squatted 525 kilos? Yeah. How many pounds is that even?

It was 1,157. Okay. Yep. And that was raw with wraps. Yeah. But it was in some almost like an exhibition. Oh, the butts are starting already here. It was a team event where one person squatted,

one person benched, and one person deadlifted. That's kind of a cool concept. Yeah, it is interesting, and I think it was WRPF. So it was not full power. Right. You should pull that up. It used to have open powerlifting open. I wonder if that's in there, if that's in the database or i wonder does that count if that squat so they have his

best squat in here at 1102 okay and they could be slow to do i mean that that was just like two weeks ago but but i don't know i i don't i don't know that that's a power lifting meet you know like squat only isn't done yeah that's not a i mean if it's gonna exist the wrpf would be the one to have it i guess but but the did you see the squat yeah i did i did i thought it looked pretty good but then like the one thing i was thinking when i watched it i was like this one's good but thor's wasn't oh yeah that's where that's where it doesn't make any sense at all. I'm not a judge, but I just look at the two.

I'm like, shouldn't his be good, too? I don't know. Yeah. That's just where the whole thing is. Yeah. We're just trying to. I mean, we've covered that. Yeah.

It just gets hard to take. Like, yeah. I mean, yeah. They all squatted it. To what level of depth? We don't really know. We'll never know. Right.

Best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week i didn't have one specific comment on this but uh it was a post we we had reshared thor deadlifting 1041 pounds on the elephant bar at uh the arnold and that that video this is a big video for us. Right. It has like 130,000 views on it, which is quite a bit. Got about 10,000 likes on that post and a lot of comments. So what I can always tell, if we had a post that goes pretty big,

number one, we start getting comments in other languages. Whenever that starts happening, I'm like, okay, this is getting comments in other languages. Whenever that starts happening, I'm like, okay, this is getting out there to a lot of people. And then number two, we start getting comments from people that I know are very outside of the lifting community. Definitely do not lift. Not people that power lift, not people that do strongman. Maybe they're people that go to the gym. Yeah. But maybe.

Do not probably squat or deadlift or definitely don't do both yep and i can you can spot those comments from a long ways away yes yes um there might be a powerlifter or a strongman that kind of makes a comment that can ruffle someone's feathers but you know that they at least have the background. Like a foundation. Yes, they understand enough to make a comment that can piss someone off. But these other ones, you can tell they are people that have no clue.

Just completely oblivious. And then I wonder, why are you commenting? Just to let people know how bad you are. Why are you saying such a negative thing on something that you don't have any point of reference or really know anything about? Yep. But there's a lot of comments on that one like that. If you're bored, you can look at it.

We don't respond to them at that point or anything. It just kind of – Oh, yeah. You just let it go. Hopefully someone polices it for you. Yeah. There's a lot of – if you're interested in reading some good ones, that would be the post to check out because it got out there to a broad enough audience.

So you said, do we have two then? Is that what you're saying? Or do we just say that that post in general is? Yeah, just the comments on that post. There was a lot of comments about, because in the post, it references how that was a world record. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of people.

World record. Well, Eddie Hall has it. the post it references how that was a world record yeah oh yeah there's a lot of people world record well eddie hall has yeah and i'm like yes i know like we know that eddie hall deadlifted 500 kilograms that is a diff i mean argue whether that makes sense or not that there are different these different world records but there are yeah and also my point to that is eddie halls isn't a power lifting debt like that itself is a different lift yeah then power so why is it absurd for there to be another different bar because eddie halls is with a suit so that's not a a power lift you know he's wearing straps that's a different thing yeah that's a strong man world record i guess well then thor's is a strong man world record on the elephant bar it absolutely is it's no different than there's also a hummer tire world record right so and there's a silver dollar world record one too like and in the description it doesn't say this is the heaviest deadlift that anyone has ever done before of any deadlift variation it's just you know like really dumb

people have to like like make you like they have to let it be known that they might know more about something right and when they don't but i mean that is that is what a facebook comment section is yeah that's all facebook comments are just find any post and it's just like oh this is everyone trying to prove how dumb they actually are. Yes. Eddie Hall does have a certain fan base, too. Oh, he does. Yeah, very.

They are very. Like that'll go to death defending his honor. All I can think of is because he had a movie and then maybe because he's British, there's not a ton of British strongmen. I don't know. That's true. But he does have maybe cause he's British. Yeah. There's not a ton of like British strong. I don't know. That's true. But he does have a very hardcore fan base. Yeah. I think Thor's kind of,

I think he'll get that now too. You know, he's kind of getting that where he's getting such a fan base that he's getting, uh, uh, it's just opening up to everyone. Right.

Everyone that's ever seen a barbell in their life. Good or bad. Uh, uh, so that's kind of, you can check out those comments if you want to read some specific ones, though. Are we all right on time? We've got time for...

We're an hour and six minutes in. Oh, geez. But we've always got time for underrated or overrated. Oh, we always do, yeah. This is, we've been getting a lot of listener feedback that they really enjoy. Maybe we'll just put this on the front and just save a little bit of time listening to the whole thing. Maybe we'll do a full episode of Underrated and Overrated. An hour of over-under.

Yeah. So this is Underrated or Overrated. It's lightning round questions. Some pop culture mixed in with some lifting-related topics. I asked Tommy. He can make the answers as short or as long as he wants to. Okay. Underrated or overrated?

Meal kit services such as blue apron, plated, et cetera. Okay. I believe they're overrated because also, like, it doesn't take that much work. If you're really that busy that you cannot find a time to go to the store and do that stuff, then you also – they're just overrated to me. I do see – I have heard people say – this is the exception I make – is that people say it makes them try new things because it just kind of pushes them on them. It tries new things, and then they spend time together as a family and make it.

Okay, if that's what it does for you – It's just you're buying an experience. Yeah, if that's what it does, sure. It's like an experience. Yeah. If that's what it does, sure. Like going out to the movie. But I do. I would personally never get one. If someone wants to give me one for free, yeah, sure, I'll do it. But I would personally never spend the time doing it.

Yep. So you're saying overrated. I'm saying overrated. All right. Underrated or overrated? The new Yeah Buddy shirt from Mastanomics. Extremely underrated. Very underrated.

I mean, until we've sold a million of those things, it's underrated. That's a shirt that really pops. It does. It's got some pop to it. It really does. Like, the colors, they do. I mean, the most generic term you can use for design is pop, but this thing does pop. It does pop.

Is that an industry expert faux pas? Oh, yeah. It's like if you could make a list of client catchphrases. Like, yeah, just do something like that, but just make it pop a little bit. Like, that's the one. Yeah. I mean, there's a whole list of them. I mean, that kind of is the famous one.

So underrated, though, on the Yeah Buddy shirt. Okay. Underrated or overrated? Playing the lottery, buying lottery tickets. Well, I don't do it, so I'm going to say it's overrated. But did you hear what well i don't do it so i'm gonna say it's overrated but did you hear what happened no someone locally won oh the thousand dollars every day for the rest of their life oh it's like a i think they said it's like worth over five million someone won it like yesterday in town no this is unrelated oh i thought it was

related no i didn't know that yeah there is this prior to that. There is someone in this town. This town sold a multimillion-dollar ticket. That would be pretty cool. I've never – I have purchased a scratch ticket. That's not – I guess that's not a thing that everyone knows what it is. It depends on state. It's just a little ticket you scratch. Yeah, you scratch it off and it tells you if you won or not.

Won five bucks or whatever. Yeah, I've never purchased like a Powerball ticket. I've maybe in my life maybe about 10 scratch tickets um like mainly when you turn what is it 18 or 21 like that and then i think through the years when the power ball has gotten really big i'm probably good for one a year because i have enough people like you buy one you buy one you buy one which should almost just turn me off from buying one but then it's like i better I better buy one. But yeah, lottery's overrated. Okay. I'm going to skip one, save it for next time for the sake of time

because it's a good one and we'll save it for next time. Last one, underrated or overrated, superhero movies. Oh. To me, superhero movies are overrated. Like, I actually just got in an argument with someone about this. Okay, here's every superhero movie. Oh, it's a superhero. Life's going good.

Things are really awesome. Oh, God, something bad's about to happen. Oh, man, they're really down. They almost died. Like, that was really bad. Are they going to come back through it, all the trials and tribulations? They come back. They overcome.

Life's good. And I'm like, someone's like, well, you can say that about any movie. Well, don't they say there's really only four types of storylines or something? Yeah, like four types of storylines or something like that. But superhero movies really are one type. They are. It's just like a guy overcoming the bad guy. I don't do them.

I'll be in situations where people talk, oh, you see the new Marvel movie or whatever. I don't follow them. I love the imagery is awesome. The art behind it is all cool like the comics those are cool and everything but maybe it's just also like the frequency that they're pumping them out at yeah it just totally ruins it for me yeah that's what it is it just it feels like it's a watered down product yeah like well because it is i mean you can't say it's not with as much as i do yeah so that's how i feel and i know there's a lot of people that are diehard about them, but...

Give me the one prior generation Batman movies and I could watch both of them. I mean, I think that's kind of what started the whole thing. That was like when Christopher Nolan made Batman gritty. That's kind of what kicked the whole thing off to me. And those were good. I mean, I don't watch them over and over, but those are probably the ones I've seen the most. But like this Marvel thing, I can't keep up with the Marvel thing. There's too many of them.

The last one I saw was Black Panther, and yeah, it was entertaining. But to me, it was like, it's a Marvel superhero movie. That was what I expected. The effects are insane. The effects are amazing. They probably have the budget in one second of special effects is probably just insulting. As much as we spend on all 144 episodes of the mass on the clock yeah god they probably spend more on that like one second like one second of footage than most people probably make in multiple years but

um yeah they're just not really for me yeah so overrated yeah Yeah. Yeah. All right. That wraps us up for today, I think. Subscribe on YouTube, Facebook. Go to our website. Subscribe to the newsletter. Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts. Most importantly, go to our store. Buy the Yeah Buddy shirt that we talked about, our newest shirt that's out.

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