Massenomics Podcast - Ep.149: Lifting Legends; History's Strongest People

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

These men and women are the among the strongest human beings to ever walk the planet. Our Lifting Legends series spans the last 100+ years of history and includes lifters from powerlifting, strongman, weightlifting, and more. We also go through some great fan submissions in our weekly segment we call underrated/overrated.

Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. Welcome everyone to episode 149 of the Massanomics Podcast, the world's strongest podcast. And maybe to tease everyone right off the bat, 150 is coming up soon and we've got some really big stuff planned.

For those of you waiting 149 weeks for this, you're finally going to get the reveal. One more week. But your favorite two Massanomics hosts are here again, Tommy and Tanner. What's up, guys? So we don't want to tell everyone then what we do have coming for 150. No, no, they've got to wait for that. Just like Episode 100. We could not give away that surprise.

No. And boy, what a surprise it was, too. People are still talking about that. Yeah. I'm excited for everything that we've got coming up. It's going to be a good 150. Tanner, I'm excited for everything that we've got coming up. Yeah. It's going to be a good 150. Tanner, I noticed you have a little piece of apparel on there that's really catching my eye here. Yeah, I actually forgot that we needed to talk about this.

Just come and stroll in with this thing on. Yeah, so this, do you recognize the drawing at all? I absolutely do. The style of the drawing. Yeah, Immortal Barbell. Yeah, this is an Immortal Barbell drawing, but this is not an immortal barbell shirt this is a frustrated strength athlete shirt and i think he worked with it immortal there's a collabo going on yeah so it's a lifter and can you read the uh the i don't know what do you call those the the

just the text point of that so yeah it's a lifting. He has a barbell on his back. He looks like he's in severe amounts of pain. He has headphones on, and the first line says, pointing out the headphones, says, now playing. Eminem, lose yourself. It's okay. It's setting the tone right away. I think I know where this is going. You only get one shot.

The next thing, what do we have? I can't see you there. Herniated L5 pointed to his back. Herniated L5, yep, because that's how that goes. Hole in knee sleeve. Belt that is one notch too tight. And forgot socks at home. So I think we all know that guy.

Maybe there's a little piece of that guy in everyone else. Yeah, I did forget my socks at home the other day and lifted in my dress socks. Yeah, I like the shirt though. I did forget my socks at home the other day and lifted in my dress socks. Yeah, I like the shirt, though. Yeah, so you can get this from the Frustrated Strength Athlete. And it's funny, we were just talking about the Frustrated Strength Athlete in the gym the other day. I actually cornered you and said, I think I have to give my award for best strength powerlifting, not just strength, not just powerlifting not just strength not just powerlifting but

strength and powerlifting meme account i think it goes to frustrated strength yeah yeah like it's it's good like they actually get the thing of like for the most part a lot of lifters they are their own worst enemy yeah and the culture for the most part is also its own worst enemy um and man they hit it they hit the nail on the head it's not it's not just what are the some of the stereotypical uh memes that they're like the uh oh squatting in the curl rack and squatted today i think it's gonna be really sore tomorrow the face you make the face you make when you squat and just like things like that or just like uh making fun of crossfit like yeah crossfit yeah must be a crossfitter yeah somebody making fun of CrossFit. Like, oh, CrossFit sucks. Must be a CrossFitter.

Somebody making fun of CrossFit? The originality of these people. Yeah, no, they are way beyond that point, and I like it a lot. It's fun because they, you know, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he enjoys following us as well. I hope so. Some of our stuff is also uh some of our stuff also doesn't suck we don't always hit but boy when we do and

i think uh i don't know the exact uh family tree of it but i think the the lineage yeah the frustrated strength athlete is a spin-off of frustrated strength coach which is also a really good yeah to follow is but the athlete has taken on more posting than yeah that's that is they uh if you're hungry for some pulse they give you a much more decent supply than frustrated strength coach yeah but they're both they're both good accounts. The quality is both top-notch. And while we're at it, Immortal Barbell, another good account. Yeah, so as far as taking on the idea of making a comic related to powerlifting, I mean, assuming powerlifting was a mainstream thing, you could see these in a newspaper.

If someone was like, oh, yeah, they've been in newspapers for years, it'd be like, that makes sense. Yeah, that's believable. I remember back in the day when we had more followers than Immortal Barbell. And it only lasted for a day, I think. It was definitely back in a day. Yeah, we have done a collab with Immortal Barbell. We did, yeah.

On Massanomics Versus. It was Eddie Hall versus Scott Hall where he did the illustrations. We'll have to make a repost of that sometime. Yeah, we will. And I think maybe we'll have to go back and get him to work on another one with us, especially now that he has more followers than we. Like, we could kind of catch him. Yeah, he could throw us a ball now, right?

Like, since we did that big spark to get him, like, these last 20,000 followers of his. I mean, it was hashtag Masonomics effect. That is the Masonomics effect. It keeps popping up. because i think he was probably around 10 000 and now he's like close to 30 000 so it was i don't know what it could have been other than him being involved in the massonomics versus it couldn't have been anything else there is only one reason for this i agree but this is a cool shirt not sure for sure what

the particulars on uh um being for sale or not for sale yet is but i guess we only got one so you missed it only goes to the most influential people they know but we do have uh more shirts coming that we each have one one in each of our sizes and i won't spoil the surprise but we've got got something else coming that will feature on the on the podcast here soon and we've talked about it before we have i don't have any room for more t-shirts in my closet but yeah uh literally i'm gonna have to purge some and go with just 100 lifting shirts it'd be the only kind of t-shirt i'll be allowed to have cross that bridge now that's just where you're at in life between

especially massonomics and then with some of the other ones of people that we support and support us in return that we've been getting. Yep. There's no room for any other clothes. That's what I've found lately is I've got the Mastonomics clothes like on that top rotation of the clothes that I wear. Yeah. And so when I do laundry, they just go back on the top rotation. And I was like, dang, I have other clothes under there. I haven't seen those things in a long time.

Yep. That's right. And I was like, dang, I have other clothes under there. I haven't seen those things in a long time. Yeah. That's right. Do we want to get into our primary? This week's feature presentation? Yeah. The format of the Massanomics podcast, if you're new, we kind of have a main central topic that we go over in the, I don't know, say first half or so of the podcast.

And then the last third of the episode we go through. Anything can happen. We've got a lot of good stuff. And we say anything. Probably two to six different segments will be thrown at you. Yeah. By anything, it's really not anything. It's kind of just like the same sort of thing that we like to revisit. That you've come to know and love.

Yeah. But some of that stuff is my favorite part of the Mathsonomics podcast. Yeah. And overrated and underrated is one of those. And today is a special version of overrated and underrated because it is fan submissions. Yep. So if you did submit something, first of all, thank you. I don't know what you submitted yet.

I didn't look at anything. But listen, you could be getting a shout out here yep yep so we will go through all of those so that'll be a pretty long portion of the podcast today but the primary topic we wanted to talk about here is uh lifting legends lifting legends and lifting legends i don't know that we've ever really talked discussed it much on the podcast have we maybe mentioned some of them passing that we made something and that was it but yeah um but lifting legends is a recurring uh instagram post series that we do kind of like our massonomics versus or our massonomics rookie cards uh we post a new lifting legend every week

and we've been doing it for probably seven or eight months i think we've got about 30 some of them uh out there in in the instagram world at this point uh and what we do is we we take someone either typically from powerlifting or strongman or some combination of both uh some people are olympic weightlifters in there uh just people throughout strength history that have done impressive stuff we feature them and list uh five six seven eight of their coolest accomplishments and it ends up being some of them some of the names on the lifting legends you'd be like oh of course yeah like uh why wouldn't uh ed cohen be in the lifting legend series of course but some of them you'd be like oh i guess maybe i've heard that name before but uh and for me it's been more but some of them you'd be like, Oh, I guess maybe I've heard that name before, but, uh, and for me, it's been more than some

of them. There's been quite a few that I'm like, I've, I mean, there's a lot of them. I've never heard of the person or a good chunk of the other ones are I've heard of them. Like, as in like, these are some of the strongest guys of all time, but I don't know a thing about what they do. Right. And it's not one of those things like you just Google it and there's their stat page and everything.

It's not exactly easy to find some of these stats on them either because some of them are kind of like odd statistics right yeah some some of these are a lot harder than others and just by putting these together i ended up learn i end up learning a lot more than uh i would have thought i knew about most of them there's a few out there like say someone like marius puginowski i know that he's the five-time world's strongest man he's the only person to ever do that but uh John Paul Sigmarison or you know it's like I don't know a lot of these a lot of these things until we go through it uh but that it's funny you say that click on the lifting legend one there's a couple questions after each one that we we talked about that I

was thinking that would be would be good to ask you is what was number one but But are you aware of this person, or is that kind of the question? Yeah, it's are you aware of who this person was prior to Lifting Legends? Right. And is there any facts that surprised you? Yeah. And what do you think for today? We're probably not going to go through every single one because it would take more than an episode to go through.

Yeah, we'll start with the oldest and then just work our way through a few of them. And future episodes, we might hit you guys up with a couple of these just to keep you in the loop. But yeah, we'll just kind of give you the base for where this all started and give you some of the highlights. Yeah, that sounds good. So should we kick it off with... We're going to start with some of the first ones we did and go that direction on them. And we start off with a really good one.

I mean, yeah, one of the best. Yeah. Actually, we're going to end up saying that direction on them. We start off with a really good one. Yeah, one of the best. Actually, we're going to end up saying that a lot here. This is actually friend of the podcast. Someone commented that the other day, and I forgot we used to say that all the time. I did too. Actually, we do have another lifting legend now that we can almost say friend of the podcast now more recently.

Well, we'll get to that part with someone that's really taken a liking to what we've done here. Yeah, first lifting legend was Brad Gillingham. And I would say probably not a better one to start with. No, and he is friend of the podcast, Brad Gillingham. You and I have both been to Brad's gym, Jackal's gym in Minnesota. We've trained there with Brad before under his tutelage. Yeah.

I mean, we came because he demanded that we be there. He's like, I need those. Not because we asked to be there or anything. He definitely wanted us there, I think. And we squatted that day when we were there with Brad. And when it was over, I also did some deadlifting just because I was like, well, I'm not going to. Well, yeah, you can't pass up that opportunity.

Right. And remember, he gave me some pointers on deadlifting stuff. Like do it better. Yeah, he's like, can you do more, like over 800 every time? More like how I do it and less how you do it. You know how I do over 800 every time I do it? Could you do that? But getting to Brad's's facts here though so first

lifting legend brad gillingham here's the here's the quick stats for you six-time ipf world champion 13-time usapl national champion ipf hall of famer most 800 pound competition deadlifts ever reported 90 to 100 somewhere in there when it gets to be that many you can see why there's yeah and he is the son to nfl great gail gillingham and his brothers are wade and carl making them the first family of strength yeah and really anyone in that family you could look up and they have a pretty impressive resume right uh gail gillingham played for the packers and i think he's not in the hall of fame but it's like he borderline could be considered to be in the Hall of Fame. And it's really cool.

If you look on Brad's Instagram, he every once in a while has like a photo of his dad doing some crazy, like this is kind of before like lifting really even took off. Yeah. And he has like every single weight tied to this bar and hanging off of it. And it looks like, why don't you just get normal weights? But I don't think that was really much of a thing back then. I think he was a little bit ahead of his time.

Well, and I think Gale was ahead of his time. And I've heard from people before that Gale, like as far as football goes and even the NFL, he was one of the guys that kind of like introduced or started to popularize weight training for like amongst uh four professional football players or four football players yeah and i don't know the much for the details on that but a lot of people have said that gail is one of the first guys that was like no this is important this is going to make uh make us better at football which is really impressive yeah that's awesome and i think even some of the videos are pictures he has like saying that he was like one of the first guys to or like brad remembers him like kind of like

talking about doing partials and working different areas and that's pretty cool i mean that's that was definitely not something that the common person was doing no no uh and his brother's waiting carl um carl i i get sometimes I get confused between the two. Which one is always the judge at the Arnold? Is that, I think. I honestly always mix them up. Yeah, right. The one that's always is the judge at the Arnold, I think is Carl. That was, that was going to be my guess. And he has a world, a strongman background. That's his, you know, competed in uh amongst the best strong men uh of his day you know when he was at his peak and then wade is one of the best uh grip strength competitors of all time yep and i think all of them in general are good at grip strength too

like they're pretty i think so yeah i think they're kind of all well known for their ridiculous they always had like the grip guy yeah right right and when we were at their gym there was a lot of different like grip training tools around too all the all the blobs and all that yeah but brad i mean i think uh he's widely considered one of the greatest uh you know drug tested lifters of all time right yeah and that's i mean you'll see with brad and a lot of the guys on the list here is like their longevity. That to me is one of the most impressive things is when you start to look at these guys. 13-time USAPL national champion. They didn't just put up like an all-time world record and then they were done.

They did it again and again and again. And it was over the course of years. Some of these guys even like decades. They stuck around forever. And it seems like you don't see a ton of that anymore. People come around, put up some crazy totals, and then they're just done. They're out of it. To deadlift 800 plus in competition, 100 times. And he was doing that when I think I would say at the beginning when it was far less common for people to be deadlifting 800 pounds or not like it happens every day now,

but even when I would say competitions were few and far between, it's like people always like to about like, oh, yeah, I can just go down the road and there's a competition. Like it's especially like the part of the country he's in, you know, where we're at the upper Midwest. It's still I could imagine 10 years ago. What was there? Maybe a couple of competitions within a couple hundred mile area. Right. A few times a year. Right.

And Brad was a good one for us to start with because he is probably uh you know a personal favorite of ours yeah and we could um you know spend the whole episode on this but um we'll we'll just get him on the podcast someday so we'll that will happen someday i believe we have made it almost three years here and not made it happen but uh it will happen someday uh okay so then to let you guys know again these are are all on the Massanomics Instagram page. You can go to click on the hashtag liftinglegends. They're all tagged. Or you can hop on over to the Massanomics website and either find liftinglegends in the blog

or you can just type liftinglegends in the search. It's one of the top higher-up blog posts. You can also just type in liftinglegends on Google, and we are on the first page there. Especially if you just go to Google Images. And then, yeah, you'll see them mixed in there. But, yeah, click on the hashtag. If you're on Instagram, do the hashtag lifting legends. Although there is some chick out there that's been hashtagging lifting legend.

Like, for a long time there. And she is not a lifting legend. The top lifting legend was all, like, the top posts were all ours. And now she's fluttering in there. Like, it'll be, like, two of ours and then one of her gym pictures and stuff. We've got to petition this. Someone get her to stop doing that. Okay, continuing on our little history tour here.

Next up is Bruce Wilhelm. Yeah. Quick stats on him. Two-time world's strongest man. First two ever. It's always a good thing to have. So it's not Bill Kazmaier. It's bruce wilhelm that's very cool uh first american to snatch 400 pounds placed fifth at the 76 olympics um placed top 10 in u.s men's shot put six years in a row and best throw of 66

so this guy already has a pretty diverse background like Like it's not just powerlifting, not just strongman. He's done world's strongest man. He's done weightlifting at an Olympic level. He's done shot put at least at a national level. I don't know that he ever competed in a shot in the Olympics, but I think probably almost a world level, maybe maybe just sub olympics and the shot put and if you look at the picture um his fashion taste and singlets is top notch stringer singlet uh so the question on for bruce then did you know who he was prior to lifting legend yeah no that was that was the first one that i was like oh yep already don't know who

it's funny he won the first two world's strongest men competitions ever and you don't you know i've never heard anyone bring up his name before yeah uh but yeah like what's interesting i think in his case is the the diversity of and with a lot of these lifting legends i think that's what's cool to look at you see how much different stuff like that they're actually good at i mean they were just strong yeah and on top of that they were like athletes too yeah which yeah that is's always super, super impressive to see things like that. Moving next along, this is one of my favorites because it's just such a crazy, like these stats don't seem real. And this is O.D. Wilson.

And I just knew him, correct me if I'm wrong, but he was the guy that was like running at World's Strongest Man. Around the track. Yeah yeah yeah he lost that i mean we can go go go through it and cover that yeah yeah he was uh uh 1988 ipf world champion uh he held the world record super heavyweight total uh second place finish at world's strongest man in 1990 he was rumored i was rumored that he had the largest quads ever at 42 inches around. That's getting dangerously close to four feet around. Yeah, that's a large man's waist.

Yeah, 23. His shoe size was 23. His ring size was 26. And he sadly passed away at the age of 37, which that's the worst part of all this is he was such a freak yeah i think he did have a heart attack probably is what they said uh his ring i think he could pass a silver dollar it's like you can't even comprehend that right how does that how is that a real thing right uh if you look at the picture though of him and you can probably google and find more but he's just a very very large man he has to be one of the biggest guys as far as a

sheer size yeah entire list for sure and uh that year that he did finish second in world's strongest man that's the clip you're talking about where he's running on the track and he's like carrying a sandbag or something like that and he's enormous man and doesn't run that well he had that world's strongest one man one that was the final event he was pretty solidly in first place like in order for him to not win world's strongest man he had to do very poorly on the last event and um i think it was john paul who much more fit yes uh you know so this last event was a run like i don't i can't i think it was like a 400 meter or something you know ridiculous i don't know that for sure what it was but uh and he crushed him and od did poorly you know very poorly and lost like gave up like six points in that last event yeah was there was

is he also involved in the one where they were like carrying the fridges around i'm pretty sure he would have been in some of those at that point in time. I think they did that more than once where they did it at a fridge on their back. Yeah, some of those events. Franco Colombo, not – haven't done him on Lifting Legend yet, but he is on our list. I'm pretty sure – I think it was maybe him. He snapped his leg doing that fridge. He did, really?

Yeah. Doing that fridge on the back thing. That's brutal. But O.D. Wilson, a very large man and also a lifting legend. Yeah. Google him. Yeah. There's some cool stuff about him for sure.

Next up, this is one of the oldest lifting legends you can say for sure, Paul Anderson. A lot of people consider him to be the godfather of modern powerlifting. Olympic champion weightlifter in 1956, 408.5-pound clean and press was a world record at the time. He has an official squat of 930 pounds, and this is kind of where the legend of him comes to life is his unofficial lifts because there's some really strange things here.

An unofficial lift of a 1,200-pound squat, 628-pound bench, 820-pound deadlift, and a famous back lift of 6,270 pounds. Right. Where those numbers come from, I don't think anyone knows. No. But that's just kind of what adds to the mystique of the whole thing, of that it's kind of before a lot of this stuff could ever be documented anyway, so you've got to take someone's word for it and whether it's people just billing things up and

marketing them in a good way which is probably a lot of it yeah and that is kind of the thing with paul anderson it's it's a lot of you know i don't know what lifting legend is you know really a good uh like he probably fits the legend yeah of it better than anyone. Right, because it's just, it is, a lot of it, you don't know what is exactly true that he did or didn't do. And as we've seen through some YouTube comments we've come across on our own. He has very passionate fans. Yeah, so I'm not going to say anything bad in case they're listening here. I don't want to get ripped apart by them for months to come,

like they do in our Bill Kazmeyer casmeyer video where bill does not give credit to paul anderson but people don't like that but yeah he obviously was strong and for his time you know the strongest man that there was and the picture of him there is pretty iconic where he he had those enormous uh steel wheels that he was that he squatted on his back in like a bent bar. Yeah. Yeah, he just looks like a circus performer right now. Yeah, right.

Next up on the list, we have Don Reinhout. And this is a name I had heard before. I was familiar with it. Yeah. But I didn't really know what he had to his name. Yeah. And his resume, we have four consecutive ipf world championships 1979 world's strongest man beat a young bill katzmeyer that year uh had the largest raw power lifting total

for 35 years at 2 391 pounds that wasn't beaten until 2013 by andre malanichev yeah and that is really hard to believe yeah right that that stood that long yeah i mean even still today that beats almost everyone in the world that's the stat there that's really you know out of everything in his in his list here that's the one where you're like oh like i guess i kind of know who don right how it was but he had the largest total ever for 35 years until it was beaten by andre milanichev and that's really like maybe maybe the best power lifter of all time right the argument for that yeah like that's what it took to dethrone this guy right uh and then his final lifts here he had

a raw squat no wraps of 934.5 pounds uh that was finally bested by ray williams for the best squat which is also hard to crazy. Yeah. His best Rob bench was 607 pounds and best deadlift of eight 85. It's like, when you look at those numbers, you know, like eight 85 deadlift,

six Oh seven bench, like nine 34 squat. Like that's like, Oh yeah. That's like the best guy you can see on Instagram right now. Nope. That was this guy. 35 years ago.

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. And that's, you you know people don't bring his you know maybe some do bring his name up for greatest power lifter of all time but you'd have to think he's kind of almost uh in the discussion with just having the biggest total ever from that because that's such uncharted territory right right seems Right, right. Seems like way ahead of his time. Next up, we have Doyle Kennedy. And he was a IPF world champion in 78 and 80. He was seventh place in the 1983 World's Strongest Man. First man to officially deadlift 900 pounds.

And that was, I love this, 903 pounds at the 1986 Budweiser World Record Breakers meet. Yeah. Has a way nicer ring to it than Reebok Record Breakers. It does. I want more. Budweiser. Budweiser should be sponsored by Budweiser. I wouldn't have an issue with alcohol companies getting involved in powerlifting anymore. And he was nicknamed the Grizzly Bear for one of the best beards in powerlifting.

And, yeah, you've got to look up his picture. He has a pretty on-point beard game. Also, his singlet game is pretty on point, too. His singlet almost goes down to his waist. It almost goes down to his waist, and the inseam is actually longer than the legs on his singlet. It's like a bikini brief on the bottom i would actually love to see some more guys bringing this look out yeah well i don't know why some people don't like i

could see brandon allen uh that is actually exactly why i could see him doing it this guy has a little bit of a brandon allen look to him doesn't he yeah he does did you ever hear this name i guess no i don't know that i'd maybe heard this name yeah this was a submission by someone and that's a good a good note on lifting legends is a lot of these have uh that we have done have come through uh good suggestions from fans so keep sending those our way but first uh if you are going to suggest a bunch check the list there's a good chance we've covered a lot of them because a lot of people do suggest them that have already been done. And also, don't get upset if we haven't done someone. This is not the definitive list.

It is a work in progress. Right. Because some people are like, oh, my God, I can't believe so-and-so didn't make this list. And it's like, well, they probably will. They're probably in the lineup right now. And now that you've suggested them, they are in the lineup probably. But just it's not – we haven't done everyone yet and i think he's kind of out of the pacific northwest area yeah uh duffin actually said

that uh he's kind of from his neck of the woods maybe he's an oregon guy and um there was a lot of a lot of when we posted this one that's it's interesting when we post them how we always get like a thing like yeah we really do have their legendary, like they have their regions of the country where people love them. And that's what is so cool about it. Like when we post this, we get a bunch of people from Oregon. They're like,

Oh, don't, you know, he was the greatest. I was there. I was there when he did left at that. That was the first time I really start started to see that come out. And that's what I think is one of the coolest parts of that is like,

you were like these people that were having stories like, Oh went to his gym or yeah he went to my gym and yeah i saw this lift go down and i was there for these training sessions brad gillingham would be another one like we reposted his recently and just like a lot of those area people like oh there's no better class act in the game than this guy you know and that's what i like about the instagram post is that people like can kind of chip into their like add into their part of the legend. Like how they either build the person up more or say what they've seen or witnessed that made this person legendary to them too. It's almost crazy how often someone says, oh, I trained at his gym or all the different actual connections that people make. Or just all the things like, you wouldn't believe what I saw.

Yeah. You had to be there. Oh, up next, Dr. Terry Todd. He was the junior weightlifting champion in 1963, national powerlifting champion in 64 and 65. He was the first to squat 700 plus and total 1,600, 1,700, 1,800, and 1,900 in sanctioned competition. And that's hard to believe. He was the first guy to ever total anything. Yeah.

Like, that's just... Of significance. Like, that's like going back. Yeah. He benched 515, deadlifted 742. Now, this is where the legacy really kicks in, is he created the Arnold Strongman Classic in 2002. He founded the Stark Center with his wife, Jan Todd.

And they've both been considered foremost strength historians. Yeah, I think they are. They got that on lock. I don't know if probably anyone on this list, you could have brought it up to them at some point in time, and they would, I'm sure, be able to tell on stories right and and he passed away here in 2018 i think most people probably know that uh but how we would have known prior to this prior to this lifting legend i know you knew this name we sat just people down from him i've literally talked to his wife at the arnold and didn't know who she was right and i had to ask the people around me and they're like oh that's jan todd and i'm like how am i the idiot

i wasn't aware but yeah now it's like mind-blowing that that's who that was and i knew before this i knew terry that he was in charge of the arnold and that stuff but i really had no idea of what his power lifting career actually like i didn't know he was that accomplished and when you see like so my first time i ever seen him was just this elderly gentleman at the arnold and like these pictures he's an older man he was a big dude back in the day yeah i i can't remember his body weight now what it was but i'm pretty sure uh he might have been like a 300 pound lifter oh yeah like he looked like he could just pick you up and pick you. Yeah, he was an intimidating guy. And kind of tying right into that then is his wife, Jan.

She has just as impressive as a resume here. She's the first woman inducted into the IPF Hall of Fame. She's broke over 60 world powerlifting records. She's the only woman to ever lift the Dinny Stones. Has that maybe just changed? Yeah, I think there's another woman that has lifted them. Which just goes to show how impressive that was because that's just changed now. 40 years later.

She was the 1977 Sports Illustrated. Oh, in 77, Sports Illustrated called her the strongest woman in the world. She was the first woman to squat 500 plus, deadlift 400 plus, and total 1200 plus. So basically those two, that husband and wife, were the first to do almost anything in powerlifting so they did it first yeah uh pretty pop pretty strong couple it's a very strong couple and i mean with them their thing has been their i think their legacy more than anyone with yeah with the strongman with arnold with that stark center like they have a lot of really cool stuff to the name. And actually, go watch any. Rogue has several strength documentaries on Netflix right now. They both pop up in them routinely.

So you'll see them kind of all over this stuff. Yeah. We're kind of, we got to leave a little time. Do we want to end on them or do one more? Yeah, maybe that's a good one to stop on and we can jump in. Teaser, we got a lot of good ones to come. We're just hitting the tip of the iceberg here. There's a lot more, but how do you even say his name?

Yuko Ahola. That's how you say it, huh? I never knew how you could do that. I just knew him as kind of like the tall, skinnier looking fit guy in Strongman. I mean, he's not skinny, but compared to a lot of the guys. Yeah, he's nice. He won the 97 and 99 World's strongest man he's one of nine men to ever win more than one strongest

man title uh six one or he's six foot one and he's 275 pounds he's one of the smallest world's strongest man winners ever uh personal records of 793 in the squat and 895 in the deadlift he set a world record hoisting a 475 pound atlas stone and he retired from strongman at a young age to pursue acting yeah which is kind of surprising you know and the the biggest thing on yuka yuko alhola is that he was 275 pounds not very big no it's not at all as far yeah i mean especially now when you look at what strong has turned into he's not weighing 440 pounds but um you know he was definitely on the lighter side in his day but what i was like when i think of him i think of like the videos of him deadlifting and it looks like his arms go to his knees yeah that's right and he was really good at it yeah

good at pulling things yeah so look up videos in there there's some classics yeah for sure all right well that's kind of a taste of lifting legends that is a taste uh it's like it's hard to stop it is because i mean just like throw out some other names that we have like we're looking through we got andy bolton bill casmeyer mark henry uh i don't even know john kook john kook bev francis um i mean there's a ton there's a ton and a lot of really weird stats and a lot of enormous people that some of them uh we've tried to also include maybe a little bit of like in just odder stats at the end of them like some of them uh people's diets or uh that's some of the weird stuff i think is like

people's diets like louis sear louis sear is one that's coming up and i think it's uh what's the last bullet on his often ate six pounds of meat in one sitting but i i think we'll we'll keep going through more of these on on future ones but yeah i mentioned him right there. We'll do one final one here. Just recently we did one for Vince Anello. Is that how you say his last name? Yeah, I think so. Vince, first of all, another guy I had never heard of. Just quick, he's first to deadlift 800 pounds at a body weight of under 200.

He deadlifted 821. He has five IPF World Championships. Just a ton of awesome things to his name. He has five IPF World Championships, just a ton of awesome things to his name. And he found someone got this Lifting Legend post to him. They printed it for him, hung it in his gym, and he has become a very big massonomic supporter. He's a big massonomic, loves Lifting Legends. Loves it.

And he was posting a lot about it on Facebook. Believe it or not, a lot of his friends and followers love Lifting Legends as well. And they were all over those Facebook posts commenting, saying how much they loved it. They got us a lot of good ideas for future ones, too. They gave us a lot of suggestions from people that we had never really heard of. So, yeah, thank you for the exposure and for those ideas. And also, thanks, Vince, for being a fan. Yeah, and did you say he was the first to deadlift? Over 800 pounds.

Under 200-pound body weight. Yeah, pretty crazy there. And I think he's still lifting today. Yeah, it looks like he's got his gym and still at it. Favorite deadlift assistance for him was the negative deadlift. So that means pulling the deadlift out of the rack and then starting at the top. Oh, is that? Okay, I didn't know if a negative was just letting it down slower. Well, yeah, but he wouldn't deadlift it.

He would start with it. Yeah. That's so weird. Yeah. You don't hear about that very often. Yeah, right. Hey, it worked for him. Yeah, there's some other like yeah i mean we'll

we'll talk we'll cover more of them later but it's reminding me of other really weird things that are in on some of those ones but things that are not the norm yeah right right awesome well like we said uh stay tuned guys we'll get into the podcast vince and ella and he is definitely a friend of the podcast bill casmeyer friend of the podcast you may have heard him mark such things as the beginning of the podcast every week mark henry's kind of a friend of the podcast in a different way yeah yeah he's a frenemy uh all right so now tanner are we gonna do we have the next segment ready yeah are we gonna do the big the do we want to do anything what about stat of the week do we want to do the stat of the week real quick yeah let's do that okay because i'm sure people are like really itching for that

stat of the week that's true i believe that i know i am okay um this is the open powerlifting stat of the week on the massonomics podcast uh as uh stats presented to us by open power lifting they shoot over some interesting stats to us and we let them out here on the podcast for all you to hear they uh use the their powerful database to collect this information yeah um so the first we're going to look at actually today's stat what it's going to be is the people that have done the most meets, competed in the most meets ever. So we're going to look at men's and women's who have done the most meets ever collectively throughout all the database. I'm not going to have you guess the name.

You're not going to know the name. Is it the Japanese guy? Maybe. No, the man is not Japanese. Is it the Japanese guy? Maybe. No, the man is not Japanese. What I will have you try and guess is the number of meets that he has done.

Well, let's just assume he competed for 50 years. If he did two a year, that would be 100. And that seems like way too many so i'll say 85 okay it it is his name is i'm gonna get this first right name wrong but sphere sphere paulson uh of norway he did over his 36 year career he lifted in 189 meets. First competition in March 1982. Most recent competition, December 2018. So I guess his career isn't done because it was just 189 meets for Mr. Paulson of Norway. He said over 35 years?

36. 36. So, I mean, he's doing like over four a year. Yeah. And he's still racking them up. Like he's going to break 200 within a few years here. That is crazy impressive. Yes.

The amount of money he's spent on meat fees over the years just has to be astronomical. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. That's true. $189, and it's hard not to spend a hundred bucks now like to do yeah between i mean just that's nine that's twenty thousand dollars yeah plus the travel and uh the travel food and hotel protein shakes all that stuff meat shirts uh

189 meat shirts you know cbd oil. Yeah. To get information down for that one. Get Herbstrong and get this guy a sponsorship. Okay, now for the woman. Hers is over 24 years, her span. Guess the number of meats there. 98. 144 meats over 24 years. Jeez.

And her name is Hannah Takakova, an IPF lifter from the Czech Republic. First competition in April 94, last one in October 2018. So she is also still competing. 144 meets. So she's doing like five a year. Yeah. Yeah. For out of the Czech Republic.

It's like almost every other month she does a meet. Yeah. So she's an IPF lifter. She's just constantly peaked. Yeah. That's – yeah. Like, that would be hard to lift that often. You'd think you'd never be able to get stronger.

Yeah. That's crazy. That is. Those numbers both are well over anything I would have ever imagined. Between those – those two people have done over 300 meets combined. They've seen it all. They have seen it all. The massonomics stat of the week the other day, I think there was, like over 300 meets combined. They've seen it all. They have seen it all. The massonomics stat of the week the other day,

I think there was like 50 meets combined for all of our lifters from our whole entire gym. Wow. Awesome. Well, thank you Open Powerlifting for that. If you want to support them, you can hop on their website, hop on Instagram, shoot them a DM, and they will put you to work. Or you can also just give them money on Patreon or buy a T-shirt. All types of ways.

I've thought about that T-shirt thing. I'm still kind of thinking about the T-shirt thing. Someday. Someday it will all work out. Someday I'll walk away with one of those, I think. Yeah, thank you, Open Powerlifting. Okay, now do we want to get into let's the big you know this is going to be an expanded version of our the favorite segment let's do it okay so

for those of you that don't know i know there's been some confusion out there i saw people posting about it today on instagram people are still confused like how does it work yes so this is a question on everyone's mind overrated underrated the massonomics podcast uh it's our our favorite segment on the podcast the way it works here's the rules oh wait i don't even have the rules up oh yeah you're gonna want to read these kind of have to read they're simple but they are nuanced so the key here is you could miss one or two words and it completely changes the rules well and if you don't fully understand the rules the whole thing you just it's meaningless yeah i'd be lost on you almost okay so here's

what it is it's lightning round questions some of them come from pulp culture and some are mixed in with some lifting related topics but that's not all there's another important thing here usually typically i would ask you these uh as overrated and underrated and you could either respond as quickly as you'd like to as briefly or make that as lengthy of an answer as you would like to so that's really up to you okay i always i always forget if i can if i want a 30 second time of it no no that's what i always mess up the slight curveball today i always have this anxiety thinking i have to rush for some reason the slight curveball today it's not going to be my list of overrated, underrated. It's going to be the listener's list that I'm going to read off to you.

Do we both get to fire off? I suppose we both get. I'll ask it to you and give you the ball on the court first. You'll be the messenger. But they will also be new to me. I haven't really studied these to figure them out. But that's the rules. And like I said, there has been a lot of confusion over the rules.

I don't know. Yeah, I think it probably cleared up for most people to hear those okay so these are all fan submission overrated or underrated over or under from jakewilson71 on instagram he wants to know elbow sleeves I will say to me completely overrated over um that's me personally in the grand scheme of things they're probably underrated because if that's if you have bad elbows and that's what helps you bench then i would say oh they're totally underrated like get those going if that's what it takes to feel good do it but um me personally overrated yeah for strongman i would say it's something you should wear oh yeah it's strongman yeah if you can i don't you can't use it in competition then i don't know how much you want

to use it in training that would be my thing yeah all right overrated or underrated this is from kev bot 006 lift shorts oh severely underrated i might not be a more underrated on this list today underrated and under underpriced i also yeah very underpriced um incredibly economical if you're rich yeah which a lot of people apparently aren't. A lot of people apparently aren't because they like to cry about the pricing. But I can see there's some people out there scraping what they can to get them, and they have the right state of mind about this whole thing. Easily underrated. Their priorities are in the right place.

KevBot006 again, overrated or underrated, SSsb safety squat bar uh i think it's underrated i think it's a a good movement that a lot of people uh probably neglect because it's squat related a lot of people like squats yeah i like them yes i like i use it all the time so for me it's definitely underrated and the elite fts and yes there's something about really good the elite fts safety squat bar i give my high recommendation on that one if you're gonna buy one i would just get i would get that one i don't know the price difference is not that significant between that one and other ones you could buy that would be it makes other ones look like a toy yeah i

agree it really does okay eclipsed dot 74 overrated or underrated SARMs? Probably asking the wrong guys, first of all. Yeah, I don't know enough about them. My tiny bit, I would say, is I don't even know what it stands for. It's like androgen receptive. Is it selective? Yeah, maybe that's what it is. It's an oral drug that you take, and I believe that this might all be completely wrong. I believe it acts like a steroid.

But from what I've heard about it is that it is kind of like the Wild West, even as far as that goes, that a lot of people don't – they're really new, and people don't know, like, what these things are actually doing or not doing. Much like CBD oil. Very much like CBD oil. So I don't know that much, but that's kind of what I know about it. Just because I don't know anything about it, I have to say overrated, just because I don't know anything. I would say overrated because by the sounds of it,

most people don't know what it is or what it's doing, so I wouldn't be too excited about putting something in my body that other people can't even explain to you what it is that it's it's going to do but i don't know yeah you'll do your thing that's your thing exactly so what was your final i'll say overrated yeah a very nonchalant overrated okay um underrated or overrated this is from bamus 51 super bowl wardrobe malfunctions oh overrated, this is from Bammis51. Super Bowl wardrobe malfunctions. Oh, underrated. This year could have used about 10 Super Bowl wardrobe malfunctions.

That's kind of hard to say, Super Bowl wardrobe. At one point in time, I'm pretty sure Adam Levine was stripping. He was trying to. He was like, God, this is so not good. I got to do something. I didn't enjoy that. I mean, I'm a Travis Scott fan, and he's not the type of talent that you want to put on at the Super Bowl

because he can't really do his thing there. You kind of have to tone it down and make it all more family friendly. It just – the whole thing. I mean, the whole – it was just bleh. I think most people probably feel that way. I didn't read anything about it, but is that what everyone was saying, that it kind of sucked? I think so. That's that way I didn't read anything about it but is that what everyone was saying? I think so, that's the impression I've got

everyone just felt like, meh yeah what was the original question? wardrobe malfunction underrated Janet Jackson this is from ScottDodds88 friend of the podcast

overrated or underrated? online coaches programming for you from across the country. Um, I think that's underrated. I think we were just kind of talking about that. I actually do. I don't see any reason now. It like,

okay. What a coach. That's literally at the gym every day with you. Be better. Probably. I mean, assuming that coach is any good yet. If they see you every day, if they're good, assuming that coach is any good. Yeah, if they see you every day.

Yeah, if they're good. Yeah, assuming they're any good. Yeah, assuming they're any good, they should be better if they can be with you and see you lifting every single day. Like they have a more intimate look at who you are, how you react to things and all that. But where we're at with technology now, if you have a coach from across the country, I mean, power lifting is literally your sets on the, you know, on the platform, on the bench, you can set up a tripod, you can record that they can see a good chunk of your lifting session. And as long as your coach is like looking at that stuff,

I mean, they can be just as involved as anyone. Um, if coaching from across the country just involves like a coach sending you a template, I think that's incredibly overrated because more often than not, I think it's pretty safe to say those templates are the same for everyone. They're not custom tailored. I know there's packages where coaches do that stuff. Like they're making a template, but they are like taking some input, and that is a whole different thing than the here's the $20 template

that's going to do this for you. Right, right. So with the right i think it does come down to the coach yes yeah the biggest variable here without a doubt is the coach yeah so with the right good i think a good coach can just make a lot of stuff work yeah and a bad coach is not gonna make anything i mean a bad coach is a bad coach yeah and i would say for as much as some lifters are looking to spend their money on the next thing that's going to help them lift more um probably more people could spend less money on some of that other stuff and spend it on

like coaching is probably as valuable as oh yeah a lot of that at the very least just to get some perspective and the whole thing like i think people get so like when it comes to lifting just all right i go to the gym and i do this and i don't get input or feedback from anyone when you know that's kind of what it takes to get better at stuff is to have some of that critical feedback. Yeah, for sure. Underrated? What was the question? Online coaches programming for you from across the country.

I think it's underrated. Across the country wouldn't be a concern of me. Whether it's across the country or an hour away. Waffle Iron Gym on Instagram. Underrated or overrated? Entenmann's Pop'ems? concern of me across the country or an hour away right uh waffle iron gym at it on instagram underrated or overrated entomans poppums i have no idea what that don't know what that is either and then uh two parts the other part is duncan donuts munchkins what was it pop-ums Entenmann's pop-ums oh donuts I've never heard of these

okay Entenmann's pop-ums slash Dunkin Donuts munchkins and I've is that one product same thing no I think it's I think it's comparing they'd be a similar product Dunkin Donuts munchkins

yeah I think they're pitting us, making us pick. Yeah, so it's both like a little donut hole. Okay. And I've never had either one of these. Me either. I mean, I like donut holes, but if I had to pick a donut, a donut hole would be fairly far down in the list of like the donuts I'm going to pick. God, I cannot.

They're donuts, sure. They're underrated. Donuts are always good. Yeah. But I did learn something today, I guess. They're donuts, sure. They're underrated. Donuts are always good. Yeah. But I did learn something today, I guess. Yes. Depth before dishonor, squat co. Underrated or overrated?

Titan products. Titan. I assume Titan. Not be Titan fit. Are we talking like supportive gear? Are we talking lifting equipment? I think he's talking lifting equipment, but I don't know. Maybe he's talking –

See, I assume like – Okay. Maybe that's what he's talking about. Like you're talking – Like singlets, knee sleeves, that stuff. Single-ply suits. Yeah, you're probably right. He's probably –

Because I think he does – he competes in some strongman and stuff too, so I would think that maybe he would do more of that. See, I've never actually bought any titan like lifting gear yeah so i can't come i've heard people say it's all very high quality stuff yeah so i can't i can't comment on that at all uh as far as their other stuff i think it can be very underrated and extremely overrated depending on your experience with the actual with with the equipment with titan Fitness. Like Strongman, yeah, Titan Fitness, yeah, that stuff. It depends on the product, for sure. Yeah, I mean, we even, in the gym ourselves,

have had things that we would probably say are underrated, and we've probably also had a few things that we'd say are incredibly overrated. Yes, and some things, like we have a barbell holder, so it's like, well, yeah, why? Yeah, as long as it is an actual piece of metal that fits a barbell in it, it does not matter. Right.

Yep, perfect. Yep, you guys, you hit the nail on of metal that fits a barbell in it, it does not matter. Right. Yep. Perfect. Yep. You guys, you guys, you hit the nail on the head. It holds barbells. But then, yeah, the other things can get a little, a little squirrely. I'm in a hurry. Titan existing, I think is, is underrated.

I'm glad that they're, some of their products could suck, but I think overall it's underrated to have them, have them as an option out there. Yeah, I think so. But, yeah, if it isn't, it's entirely possible that you are the one person – or not the one. You are one of the people that got just completely burned by them by getting a garbage product because that is a thing with them probably more than anyone else out there. Yes. And when that does happen, you will say they are the most overrated company in the world because dealing with equipment returns and exchanges is i've never had to do it but i imagine it's an absolute headache especially when like freight

is involved yeah for sure um so underrated ish underrated ish yeah from swim hack uh he just commented overrated slash underrated rules. You're right, Big James. All right. Then this is from 7rab1s underscore M. Not a lot of continuity in that Instagram name, first of all. He says, I've always wondered if there is a limit to how long the answer can be. Don't think that was clearly stated before. Okay, yeah.

Now that I think back on it, I don't know if you were completely obvious in the rule section of this segment, Tanner. So what was it again, though? As the answerer of Overrated and Underrated, you get your choice, your option, to either answer as briefly as you'd like or as extended as long as the answer you want. So that 30-second cap isn't real then? No, no. It's what I like to say if people forget. The questions are lightning. Lightning round questions.

But the answers are not lightning round. The answers are not. Okay. So that's where I think there gets to be confusion because the questions come quick. The answers can come slow. Yeah, there's a lot of kind of give and take here. All right. This is from AJCTX91.

Overrated or underrated? Taco Bell as a performance-enhancing drug. Or maybe just Taco Bell. I thought it was going to be just Taco Bell. I think Taco Bell is underrated. I think we've actually covered this several times. Because they are. We do talk about Taco Bell.

Taco Bell is like the, there's very few fast food restaurants that, okay, just embrace your position as being fast. You're not gourmet food. Just you're fast food. So what can you do to make it exciting? You turn into like the experimental kitchen for whatever your food is. Like Taco Bell is the experimental taco kitchen. Like they always have a new menu item coming out, and it's awesome, and I like that.

McDonald's, what do they come up with? A new burger. That's really exciting. oh better beef okay yeah so your beef is just slightly less whatever it is um no taco bell's underrated it's awesome i think they'll always be a place for taco bell yeah yeah underrated this is from sleaze uggs underrated overrated the use of viking slash spartan logos okay uh actually as some some listeners might not know i make my living doing graphic design i'm not going to say i'm the end all be all by any means here but i would like to think i have a little more perspective on the visual cues of the industry than maybe the average person i would guess that this is a listener that knows that that's why they i was picturing that's why they asked because they know that and so they wanted to get your take on it so

there's two things and actually okay so yes the the the viking spartan one is i would say completely played out yeah and but what if you do it in a way that really pops? Dude, if you can make it pop, then okay. I'll give you a pass if you can make it pop. But it's played out. It's just the most obvious one you can go to. And I get it. Yeah, 300 Spartans. It's cool.

It's badass. Like they're ripped. Yeah, it is cool. There's good imagery there, but it's just very, very played out. But to me, the one that's even worse than that, Tanner, you want to take a guess? You're putting me on the one that's even worse than that, Tanner, you want to take a guess? You're putting me on the spot. I assume we've probably even talked about it before. Okay, you've taken too long.

I'm going ahead. Yeah, you've got to go. To me, the most played out image, look, brand, name of any kind is anything that involves ape or gorilla. Oh, yes. Yes, definitely. It is everywhere and to the point where I can't even hardly keep some of these brands apart. Oh, yes. Yes, definitely. Oh, it is everywhere. Yes, definitely. And to the point where I can't even hardly keep some of these brands apart. Yeah, definitely. We have talked about that before.

Yes, for sure. And not to say these companies suck or anything, but so many companies do it. They all have some type of ape or gorilla or something like that in their – All the primates. Yeah. Someone needs to come out with like a Spartan ape. That needs to be a thing. Spartan.

Like it probably is a thing somewhere. That would be the pinnacle of – Yeah, like – It would be a gorilla wearing a – one of those Spartan – Yeah, yeah. Wearing a Spartan hat or like a Viking gorilla. Yeah. Just people probably want that.

Yeah. I saw a funny – people talk about Vikings talk about vikings as like you know the warriors and stuff and like someone is and like relating it to lifting like that you're like a viking and yes and someone's like you know vikings didn't lift right and then also the other thing is like vikings were mostly like uh sailors yeah fishermen yeah for you know for you know they weren't like it's more like once uh once uh north american culture present day has got a hold of that and turned into this whole other thing they were like just a little bit more advanced than some other civilizations i think that that allowed them to sail they weren't just these wild savages just destroying everything

but as someone's like you know vikings didn't lift right like i just thought that was really funny like yep so yeah uh someone should start a company that's uh related to yeah some type of You know Vikings didn't lift, right? I just thought that was really funny. Yep. So, yeah, someone should start a company that's related to some type of gorilla and a Spartan Viking warrior. So it was overrated, your final answer. Oh, yeah, it's very overrated. And then also from the same follower, he said joggers. Overrated, underrated. Years? Okay.

And you also have to, for me, define what joggers are specifically i i would just like a sweatpants joggers i i would consider they have to be tight on the bottom this is where it gets tricky no no joggers do have to have like a taper like more of a cuff but an elastic band um yeah and then that pretty that probably is the actual form because when i was like joggers in maybe junior high high school and stuff those kind of sweatpants were lame if they had an elastic band at the bottom. But now, because the ones in high school, I know exactly what you're talking about. When I was in wrestling, we always had these ones. They just have one piece of elastic.

The piece of elastic was probably a quarter of an inch thick, it was all. And it was just like a rubber band around your ankle. And it sucked. But now, jog joggers you can have sweatpants that make you look stylish when you go out so if you just go out around town and you're wearing like big baggy sweatpants you kind of wear your pajamas yeah you look like a bum you do like yeah you might be playing sports or something but you look like a bum yeah um whereas you can wear joggers and they're they're designed to be slimmer.

They're a little more form fitting. They're tapered at the bottom. Now, all of a sudden you look stylish. You're still wearing sweatpants, but they're sweatpants that fit different. And because of that, society kind of has a different look on them. Like some old school people like, oh, they're just skinny, skinny sweatpants. But yeah, that's not that's not how the world looks at the world looks at it is like, oh, that's a more fashionably acceptable thing to wear. And now it's expanded into like you can get like almost denim-type material and khaki material that fit in it too. I have several pairs. Actually, this time of year, that is like my exclusive.

That is what I wear almost all day, every day is joggers. Unless, you know, I have a business meeting. So are they tight on the ankle though? Yeah. It's almost like look at your sweatshirt, the cuff on your sweatshirt, on your wrist, that is down at your feet. And that's a jogger if it's like that. Yes, and because of that, they're always a more slim fit,

a fit that follows your figure a little more. And so you look more stylish. And they just pass off in a lot more situations. So I say underrated. I like in a lot more situations so i say underrated i like them a lot okay um cialis oh this is from matt show 34 you've heard what i started to say underrated or overrated cialis cialis slash viagra for better pumps in the gym wow um also i would say that people do that i have heard that really have heard that. Yeah, that's a real thing. That's a? Like, unless you are in a contender for Mr. Olympia, what is the point of putting yourself through this stuff?

Follow-up from Matt, underrated or overrated, tucking unwanted boners into the waistband. Always underrated. I would say that's definitely underrated. That's like a tried and true, like, from seventh grade on, that's like a foolproof. That's pretty from seventh grade on that's like a foolproof that's pretty much your go-to the movie the movie super bad made that yeah i think really put brought that into pop culture uh let the masses know that that was a thing and it's been underrated ever

since to this day even i mean until there's like a better uh yeah come out with a better way to hide an unwanted boner i don't know where else you're gonna tuck it this thing's gotta go somewhere one of the which one of them is super band is doing it and doesn't he say it feels kind of good yeah is it jonah hill's character i can't remember who i think it's jonah hill's yeah okay this is from big o jig Underrated or overrated? Vaccinations. Vaccinations are underrated, and if you have anything else to say about that, you're wrong. Yeah, your wife is

what? Nurse practitioner. Yeah, and would that be her pretty strong opinion? Yeah. Me, as someone with children and a baby, I know that my and my wife's choice was also definitely to get vaccinations yeah it still just blows my mind that people like because the number of people

like you hear it is a real thing like oh why don't you believe in that well i read an article like you read one article you read what you read a article yeah that's what changed i mean i don't imagine they spent any amount of time like checking that researcher's credentials or anything but actually the best was it was like very recently um i was going around i was on reddit or facebook was a mom asking uh for advice on how to protect her child from like measles and everyone's like uh vaccinations this has been solved already. This is a real thing. So yeah. So they're underrated.

They're underrated. No room for debate there. Jackson underscore Karnosk. Underrated or overrated. Dumb Instagram comments. It depends on if there's a comma here or not. There's a context. Yeah, like if you're saying Instagram comments that just say the word dumb on our Massanomics versus posts, those aren't too bad.

Those can have their place. There are some subtleties in those. They can be very good or very bad. I do kind of like dumb Instagram comments because it's getting to the point now where those people are are exposing how stupid they are and other people are kind of like taking advantage of that and letting them know. So I always, I think they're underrated. I like when I see that, my first reaction is I enjoy them. They gives us something. It's like kind of like, Oh, they're doing the work of letting you know they're stupid. So you don't have to like find out like they're just making it known. I like them when they're on ours, when there's like genuinely someone making a really

dumb Instagram comment because either someone else responds or we get to and everyone gets a laugh over it. I like them. This is from Day Bib Green, underrated or overrated, overhead press. I think maybe we – have we done this before? Yeah, I think we did, but I think we both said it was underrated. Yeah. It's a movement that a lot of people neglect. I like overhead press.

Yeah, it's a fun lift to do. I like to do standing overhead press with an axle. Wow, very specific, Tanner. That's my favorite version of an overhead press. You also, for a while, really did the rhino bar, too. Yeah, I could take either one, the rhino bar or the axle. I like the larger diameter bar. Yeah, I like the big ones.

Yeah, I like it. Just something to feel meaty in my hand. So we are both saying underrated on the overhead press. Yep. Underrated or overrated. This is from Matissas. He says, Willie Nelson on the gym playlist. Wow.

I don't know if I've had any Willie Nelson on the gym playlist. The gym has a lot of iPods that just sit on the Jim playlist. Wow. I don't know if I've had any Willie Nelson on the Jim playlist. The Jim has a lot of iPods that just sit on the stereo, and they cover a really, really wide range of music, and I don't know if Willie Nelson has ever came on. I can't recall Willie Nelson being on. One of my favorite country music artists to be on the Jim playlist is Aaron Tippin. He's got a few good ones.

You already lost? I don't even know what you're talking about here. That's Working Man's PhD. He's got a few good ones, but Aaron Tippin is a lifter. So that's why it's kind of – he's got pretty big pipes on him. So that's why it's kind of – That works for me. That's all it takes for me.

Yeah. Yeah, Willie Nelson, though. I'd say that's underrated. I don't think a lot of people are bumping Willie Nelson at the gym. No. I'm trying to. So that's probably an unexplored route for a lot of people to get stronger. Yeah.

Oops. I think that was our last one. I'm going to double check one more time here and make sure I didn't miss anything. Refresh the feed. There could be some last second comments coming in here. I'm sure there is. We get so many, it's hard to even keep up on them but no that was it that was our well underrated or overrated thank you guys for the first crowdsourced underrated overrated yeah we'll have to do

that again periodically coming through with the real hard hitters on that one that was truth that was good and maybe finally we set the rules straight so you know what i just to be safe we should probably review it again next time yeah i don't want to i know it gets confusing and i don't want everyone to be confused about it we got to keep it all in context you know we're working on it so uh do we have a big lifts i thought we did have maybe just a quick we can do a really quick we're starting to run out of time here but we can do a quick one oh real uh brian hartzell traps like mountains squatted 903 and deadlifted 903 at the jb boss party on the platform one of the very

very few people ever to do the double 900 there may be some things about that meat in particular and such we won't we won't even get into that it's a whole can of worms some people might not feel the best about the situation of the meat but um i think it's safe to say he will i think you can assume that this is not going to be his all-time best performance right and it yes exactly so it won't matter so in the end it's not gonna matter anyways that's true i would agree with that other one thing of big lifts be remiss to not mention larry wheels log pressed 396 with huff thor that is a big lift about a 400 pound log press that is a big lift yeah old larry williams gotta get that larry update in update in. Amanda Lawrence also lifted some stuff.

You can assume that that's big. We don't even need to go into details. But we just know. Yep, that's right. Do we want to go over reviews or anything? Yeah, what's our time on? We are at... Oh boy, make me move things

around here. We do have some good reviews. How far in are we? An hour and seven minutes. Oh. I don't know. Do we save them for next time or get them out or what do you think? I don't know.

Is there going to be room with episode 150 with all that crazy stuff we got going on? That's true. Or do we save them for? I don't know. I don't really. It's tough. It is tough. And it makes a really big difference whichever way you decide to do. It does. God, it's completely changing is tough and it makes a really big difference whichever we decide to do

it does god it's completely changing up our schedule um well how many do we have we got three good ones okay we'll do one okay okay yes we'll give you guys a taste okay we'll do one that's that's a good yeah yeah five out of five stars this is from g underscore nickels title is power lifting tm, which I do like that. We are the Powerlifting TMZ. Do you know what TMZ stands for? No. It's the 30-mile zone.

I don't know what that means. I could be wrong here, but I believe it is in reference to the original area that they covered was like within 30 miles of Hollywood because that's where all of the stuff was going on. A little fun fact for you. I could be completely wrong on that, but I think that's what it is. stuff was going on. Okay. A little fun fact for you. I could be completely wrong on that, but I think that's what it is. I'm believing it. Yeah. Okay.

He said, I'm going to tell you off the bat, this is a good review. This is a good one. I like good reviews. Yeah. I work for a company that wants to be like Google and distracts everyone while they work via a very open office concept. I combat this. I know the pain, man.

I combat this with Bose noise man i combat this with bo's noise canceling headphones which is funny because that was on uh overrated underrated and the massonomics podcast so he combats it with the bo's canceling noise bo's noise canceling headphones and the massonomics podcast listening to these guys i am constantly switching between laughing under my breath to a straight face and back again i'm sure most of my co-workers assume i have a multiple personality disorder they have also reverse engineered champion shorts and made them specifically for weightlifting by placing their logo on there i probably won't buy them, but Patricia might. Well, Patricia sounds cool. Highly recommend this podcast.

I think what's going on here. Have you ever seen the movie? Yeah, what's the movie? Split? I think it's Split. No. Okay. Because that's what I was hoping you knew.

Did he just drop such an inside joke that I didn't even know? It's the movie split M. Night Shyamalan movie this guy has like 30 personalities I haven't seen the movie he has like 30 personalities Patricia is one of the personalities

this review just went to a whole another level it just blew my mind with this yeah I forgot I have not seen that movie in so long I saw it right when it came out and patricia that's that's just one of the personalities yeah yeah it's one it's but that's a name you never hear yeah yeah what an excellent review that is good that's really good that review uh brings in a lot of mass dynamics podcast references brings in the lift shorts and it like even kind of challenges a twist ending a twist ending yeah much in the uh much in the same line as m. Night Shyamalan himself.

Excellent review. Thank you. So keep those coming. We broke that 100 mark a while back. Now we're hashtag road to 200. No, road to 1,000. That's true. You don't.

That's right. You always skip a few steps in your road. You always. Next bigger one. You just barely make it to 100. So, of course, the next logical step is a thousand to crush the previous goal uh keep the reviews coming though those that's that's good stuff but we will save the rest for next time for 150 along with all our other good stuff that we got

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Won't say anything more than that, but just like Tommy said, if you like what we've done in the past, you're going to like this next one. But one of them, just a slight, we deviated ever so slightly from. Or did we flip the game on its head completely? That's true. Just when you thought we were going to go this way, we went that way. But that should be within a couple weeks that we've got another pretty sweet new shirt design out there available for you to get.

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