Massenomics Podcast - Ep.152: Prepping for Your First Powerlifting Meet

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

You've probably seen some tips and tricks for your first powerlifting meet... but you've never seen OUR tips for your first meet before! There's probably a few nuggets in here that could be helpful even if you have competed in the past.

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It's going great. And I'm Tanner. Tanner, how's it going? Oh, it's going good. I'm glad you asked. You know, one of these days when I have enough responsibility and after enough apprenticeship hours, I might be able to start off the podcast. But it is a lot of responsibility. I do literally say the exact same thing every time.

I don't know if you've noticed this, if you've picked up. Well, you've got to keep it familiar with people. Yeah, you don't want to throw them off. They think they're listening to a different podcast or something. You don't want to hear with people. Yeah, that's true. You don't want to, like, throw them off. They think they're listening to a different podcast or something. Yeah, like, huh.

We could even just rehearse that one sound bite, and then, like, we'll just cut out the part where it says 154. Two. A robotic number comes in. Yeah. The world's strongest podcast. Yep. So what's new this week? I see, actually, you got some good snow removal down there.

I meant to mention that to you actually. Because it's another week, so the only things you can count on in life are taxes, death, Larry PRs, and snow where we live. And, yeah, it snowed a lot again. I think we've talked about it before. I'm lucky enough to have a father-in-law that owns heavy machinery, and he swings by and clears me out. I thought you did that with your shovel. It looks like a landscaping company came in and just went to town. I get the text, like, do you need some snow removed?

I'm always like, yes, yes, I do. When I was gone and when I showed up i was like oh yeah this is i mean i got some piles now in my yard that are probably like nine feet tall like they're probably gonna be there until june yeah at the rate we're going but it's at least wait now when the snowflowers come back again there's room for the snow to go there is yeah because you know that's going to happen it has uh you know i saw i think i caught you having a bit of a breakdown too with more snow coming that was uh the snow plows were like we've talked about it before the big thing is when the snow plows come by you have to like you have this huge pile in your driveway that you've already cleaned yeah like blocks and rocks the snow plows like i just glanced out the window

and i was like oh no there this is we're we're just on the way to go to our son's basketball game we had to get out of the driveway. Well, that's the thing. You have to. Like a car can't get through it. No, no. And then I see him coming down the road, and I'm like, oh, no, not again. And literally I was yelling like, oh, no, and my wife had me on camera

having a freak out about the plows coming again. But you can't really talk to anyone anywhere now without being like, oh, how about that snow? Yeah, it's just the topic, and it's like there's nothing left to say. It's almost like it gives people comfort and, like, everyone else feels the pain that they do. That it sucks just as bad for everyone. It's like an open counseling session for everyone.

But that is the issue now. There's just nowhere else for it to go. Yeah. Like when you shovel it, you can't. Driving through town, there's people that is the issue now. There's just nowhere else for it to go. Yeah. Like when you shovel it, you can't. Driving through town, there's people that on the edges of their driveway, they now have a retaining wall of snow that's almost 10 feet tall. Like I'm thinking if you were a kid and you were up there and fell, you could actually hurt yourself.

It's high enough up. Yeah. You know? But it's the world we live in. It is. And it's not fun. You know what else I did this week, Tanner? What's that? I cut the cord. But it's the world we live in. It is. And it's not fun. You know what else I did this week, Tanner?

What's that? I cut the cord. Oh, you were talking to me about this. This is my second time coming back to be a cord cutter. Yeah, your umbilical cord. It's been hanging off of there. It's been like this big stigma thing. I heard that's really nutritious if you grind that up and eat it. I think so.

When we had a baby last year, that's what I did is I ate the umbilical cord. As is customary for babies. I have actually cut the cord. Have you? Yeah. Do they actually offer it? Yes. Actually, you know what?

I didn't know that was even a thing until we were watching TV the other day, and I don't know what the hell we were watching, and that came up. And I told my wife, like, oh, that's really weird that they added that part into the show where they asked the guy yeah he goes no that is a real thing yeah i i did it and i i did not know that that was a real thing until until they presented and i was like oh i guess so like i mean i guess i you know and i was a little unsure about it and it's uh you gotta you gotta dig into it a little bit one of those things that's just so rooted in tradition like yeah like to both you and me that didn't know it was a thing it sounds completely

yeah like why yeah why do i need to do this yeah after the fact i guess i'm glad i did it because now you feel like you actually have a connection with your child right that's right otherwise i wouldn't have yeah had i not stranger in your house have house. Had I not severed that line between mother and daughter. Yeah, you're mine now. But, no, I did cut the cable cord this weekend. So did you have satellite television? No. Or did you have cable?

Because I did have cable at one point when I lost the roommates. I decided, you know what? I don't watch TV. We're going to get rid of cable. We'll just do like, there's so many I decided, you know what? I don't watch TV. We're going to get rid of Kate. We'll just do like – there's so many streaming things, you know, like PlayStation View and like whatever Dish has and like Hulu, all these things. We'll do something like that.

It's $40 or whatever. But did that for a while. And then they get you back on like, hey, we have a crazy promotion. And like really the promotion was like TiVo, DVR, all this stuff, all these channels. And it was cheaper. The whole thing, internet and TV promotion was like tivo dvr all this stuff all these channels and it was cheaper the whole thing internet and tv all together was like 90 it's like i can't afford to not do that it's so good so did you go you went without cable for a while oh i went without cable for like almost a year oh okay and i was fine with it but i'm like well this does give me

way more stuff it's not a contract so i can cancel as soon as the promotion's up yeah and i went like six months and it was insanely cheap, under $100. Then the last six months, it was like about $120-ish, which for cable and internet, I think is pretty fair. Yeah. Not bad. I mean, it's like the big package with DVR, all that stuff. So then you kind of forget about it.

And it just creeps up a little more. No, it's like I feel like at some point, this is going to move up. And then you get hit with like that $200 bill, and it's that one came out of nowhere yeah and uh so it was like the it was like i'll wait for like the super bowl football playoffs i'll tough it out for one more month yeah then uh i finally made the switch this week decided to go with hulu live i haven't tried that one yet haven't had hulu ever oh so this will be my first uh i don't have i just have i don't know you call it basic hulu i'm not really sure that i like hulu we watch it we don't even have netflix right now we just have hulu so okay i did watch you talked about this on netflix you talked about the uh abducted in

plain sight yeah those people are crazy yes like the fan the parents of the family yes yeah like my wife literally like made me pause it she had to like scream like how can they like that's the big thing the the big thing of the show i don't think is the creepy pedophile guy because i think it's probably easy to find creepy pedophile guys in the world story I don't think his story is a whole lot better than a lot of other pedophiles. The reason that what makes the story is finding the parents that were so oblivious to – Just everything. They don't want to look dumb. Yeah. In order to not look dumb, they make themselves look dumber.

We won't call the police for five days. Can you imagine that, that your kids are gone for – No. I couldn't imagine that with my dog. Right. He's gone for like 12 hours. He doesn't have to be gone 12 hours. If he's gone like a – the first second he's gone, I'm going to be like on high alert.

Yeah. And then you add a kid into the mix. And the only thing I would say is I guess it was a slightly different time than it is now. That is part of it. A little less overprotective parenting, but still no parent would go, and the way they said it, and then the next thing we knew it was five days. Then another day.

It was Sunday and they were closed, so we waited another day, and then it's been five days. Like, oh, my package hasn't showed up from UPS. Yeah, right. I should probably look into that actually i think most people would get more upset about their package delivery than how these people felt about their kid being gone but yeah so yeah that one and without giving

away too much more into uh other uh sexual relationships that developed in that show it was insane we had a meme that discussed this yeah um there was a lot of different sexual relationships yeah a lot of different sexual relationships. Yeah. A lot of different dynamics at play. In the end, you could say it all worked out and it was a relief, right? It was. And sometimes that's all you need is just a little relief.

A little relief. That's what it comes down to. Yeah. So was it a good show, though? Is it on the recommendation list or not? Yeah, I guess. You just have to blow your mind that people like that exist and don't be like that. But yeah, I guess.

The other one, though, because you do have Hulu, I have to ask you, have you ever watched Nathan For You? No, I don't know if I know what that is or not. You need to watch it. It's probably like dry humor as good as it comes. Is it a comedy? It's a Comedy Central show. And basically what this guy does, and I forgot that it was on hulu until today it popped into my and i looked typed it in was there i'm like yes so what this guy does is he is like the most socially awkward guy he's

aware of what he's doing but he's so good at playing the part like you don't know so he's a very socially awkward guy and he finds struggling small business owners and comes up with like marketing plans and schemes to help them out. The Prophet. I don't even know. That's a show. Not a funny show. But it is a real thing. He's called The Prophet because it's like a play on words that he's helping a struggling business.

So this is – I mean he's trying to do that basically. struggling business so this is i mean he's trying to do that basically but he so like i think it's the first episode and i haven't watched it in so long but i think this is what the it's like an ice cream shop and they're struggling to get people in the door so he's like well we just need to come up with a more outlandish flavor so they developed a poop flavored ice cream and it's like they're like well this kind of isn't like the right thing we want to do and it's just a bunch of really dumb stuff like that uh the one i watched tonight right before this um the uh there is a guy that owns a small electronic store and he can't compete with best buy because they're uh they do price matching yeah he basically can't compete you know with their with their volume purchasing volume and all that stuff like there's no way

you can compete as a small business owner so he decides he's like well we'll make an ad that sells tvs for one dollar and then best buy will have to price match that you'll buy their tvs and then just resell them so you you now have one dollar tvs and he's like but what gets tricky is um while we're running our ad for one dollar tvs we don't want people to buy them right so what he does is they move all the tvs to the of the store. They install a wall that has a door that's two feet tall. Well, and even to get in the store, they enforce a strict dress code where you have to wear a tuxedo. So just to get into the store, you have to have a tuxedo on. Then once you have a tuxedo on, there is a special back room for the premium TVs. To get in, there's a door that's about two feet tall. So you have to crawl through the door. Then once you go through there, the TVs are in a room but there is an alligator in the room

with the tvs so there's a few people that actually show up to the store go through the whole well they go rent a tuxedo come back crawl through the door find the alligator and are like no yeah just leave yeah and then so he hires people on craigslist to go to best buy to buy these tvs for a dollar best buy won't price match. They didn't price match. They wouldn't price match it. So then he's like, well, I'm going to file a civil lawsuit on behalf of this business. And then he talks to his attorney friend and his attorney friend says, well, you need to find maybe some, you need to find like an insider person on Best Buy, like colluding, like saying like, oh, yeah, Best Buy is known for not price matching this and then if you have some like evidence that that's a thing that maybe you have

something so then he makes a fake reality tv show called retail dating where he goes and finds someone that used to be a best buy employee takes her on a fake date gets her to admit like oh yeah we wouldn't price match all the time yeah and then he's And then he's like, oh, I have it on TV. I have it on evidence. So then he's like, okay, well, I'll present this. And then the guy's like, no, there's no way. And he's like, you have to get her to admit that in court. So then he decides, like, okay, I'll get the store owner.

Or he then go ahead with the final civil lawsuit. This is getting so deep. He has to get the guy to – or he's like there's no way that would stand in court and then he says well the only reason i could make it stand in court is if this guy was insane so then he convinces the doctor to like say this guy the store owner's insane either way the show gets like so off the rails yeah um it's really really good if you like dry awkward humor and like people just being put on the spot um it probably doesn't get any better so um if any of that what i just said sounded interesting or ridiculous to you check it out i i'm interested i

might have to sample that one this evening actually yeah i uh so do sometimes the the business owners resist and kind of be like no a lot of them are like that's the dumbest idea i ever heard yeah some of the things have actually he is the guy that he made um a pet rock no he did make a store called dumb starbucks where it was like an exact copy of starbucks they just put dumb in front of everything i've heard of and it was open and it was like it was popped up in la and it got like super popular for like you know because it was just this random shop yeah and because it was under parody i guess starbucks couldn't really do anything about it and And he had another one where there was like a petting zoo. And I believe they were struggling getting people to come through the petting zoo.

So they staged this super elaborate video of, I'm trying to remember, it was some animal in a pond. And it looked like it was drowning. And they set up a pig to swim across the pond to look like it saved this animal. And they actually had this fence under the water so it couldn't go anywhere else. And this video went viral. It was all over the news and everything. And then the owner had to come out and admit like, oh, this is a stage thing.

So they have had like some success and some things that actually pop up. But I mean, really, it is a comedy show. And he kind of does like the Borat Bruno thing where he gets kind of catches people at their worst or shows like how, if you do kind of seem like you're being honest, you can kind of convince people like at their worst or yeah shows like how if you do kind of seem like you're being honest you can kind of convince people to do just about anything yeah and say just about anything and go with oh no like there's cameras here it's okay and like people will just go with it like so it's probably more they know it's probably more of an exercise in

like human psychology than anything but it is fascinating to like watch how this how it all goes down i'm definitely interested in that. And 20-minute episodes. You can just plow through those things. Speaking of Hulu shows, are you aware of the Pen15 Club? I saw it pop up on there. Well, it's just called Pen15, but I'm wondering if you're aware. Going back to childhood, yes, the Pen15 Club.

Yeah, totally aware of that. Yeah, so Pen15 is a show now on there, and my wife has watched a few episodes and i'm watching with her pretty good what i like about the show is it follows these two it's i from what i understand it's these two women that are comedians now in real life and they're both our age like uh right around 30 and it goes they play like kind of almost like themselves as seventhth grade girls. But everyone else in the show does look like a 7th grader and stuff.

And these two are themselves dressed up as 7th graders with braces and everything like that. But what's funny is it's set in 2001 as 7th graders. Like when we would have been about that age. Yeah, somewhere around there, yeah. as seventh graders like when we would have been about that age yeah somewhere around there yeah and you know i feel like it's common that you seem see shows that are like take place in the 80s or take place in the 70s shows taking place in the early 2000s when it's like oh like that's a like they're actually and uh like so most of the kids are wearing like super we've talked about it most of the kids are wearing like superstar Adidas shoes and just all these references. All these early 2000 trends that didn't stick.

And the songs on it are all early 2000s. Just Ja Rule's bumping. Back when Ja Rule was making music and not ruining music festivals. And just even the words that they use and everything. I really liked the show because it was all this like. The nostalgia was there. Yeah. So anyone that's about 30, you could watch that.

It's kind of funny. I almost think it's more geared towards females as an audience. But because it's following the teenage life of girls, so inherently it kind of is, but it's still really funny because of all the early 2000s references that are in there. I really laughed when I was like, jeez, they do have them all wearing superstar 2G shoes. I was like, that's great.

Like a lot of the haircuts and stuff all match up pretty good with the time. Yep. So that's another good show. I have to get that on the list. Yes. One thing I did see this week, well, actually, this is coming out on Monday. So we're on our way home from the Arnold right now as you're listening to this. But in real life, we haven't quite made it to the Arnold yet.

Yep. And I saw Rogue put out a Roads to the Arnold. Oh, they did? You know their videos? I haven't seen any of those come out this year. They did one of Ray Williams. Oh. So you've got to watch that.

Have they done? Because normally I feel like I see those pop up a lot, and I haven't seen anything about them. Have there been many? I saw these two. There was one for the deadlift, the elephant bar deadlift there's a road to the arnold elephant bar deadlift you gotta gotta watch that one you know what the best part of the road to the arnold elephant deadlift bar is there's a lot of massonomics cameos there is

massonomics cameos in the road to uh the arnold deadlift video i like it i like it and if if you watch anything of the elephant bar deadliftlift, especially the year in 2018 when Thor breaks the record and everything, that's what this follows kind of. When you're watching the camera angle from behind the deadlifters, all you have to do is look slightly to your left in the crowd, and you see a group of about four light blue lift shirts in every shot. It's been immortalized. Yes.

We're always right over there y'all i do every time you see those do you always look for that i look every time yeah and even if like i've actually been i think i had i could be wrong here but i think rogue had like a commercial pop-up before a youtube video in time and actually i was watching with some friends i had to make them go pause in the commercial to be like, look, I'm in there. But that road to the Arnold Elephant Bar deadlift one is really good. They have those iconic slow motion dropping. Probably the blood splatter.

Actually, they left that out. And I feel like they probably left. It had to have been intentional to leave that out. I would assume, yeah. I suppose they decided that's. I really know a broader audience. Yeah, like they don't want the image of the blood out of the face thing for everyone. It's not the most family-friendly thing. No, for your hardcore lifters, it's like, yeah.

But for your average people, they're like, whoa, what's wrong with that guy? What's happening to make this happen? But the Ray Williams one is good, of course good of course i'll have to watch that one and then uh the other one i want to talk about matthias kilkowski they did one on him gotta watch that one so he's he's from poland yep and uh kind of like who you'd expect he has his own like little gym that he has to heat with like a wood burning stone oh really yeah so it is like the old country boy yes yes and i think he's from a village with about 40 people. And you've got to watch his.

He's only 25 years old still. But we, of course, remember how he rocked the stage last year on the stone to shoulder. That stone that they used last year is about 400 pounds, same one that they're using this year. He made the comment how he likes to train heavier than the competition one i saw the other week he did like a 440 pound one really this week he did one that was like 485 pounds almost 500 pounds that he put on his shoulder you would assume that a 400 pound stone is nothing and that's like that he is the king of that lift.

I'd be curious to see if anyone else in the world could, you know, shoulder that 480-pound stone. I don't know who it would be because the way Shaw and Thor both looked last year, they didn't. It also makes me really curious, like, if they're bringing their A game with that this year. I can't imagine that they'd be stepped up. Yes, right. I bet you're right, too.

But still, he probably is still another step ahead of them now, the way he made that look. You would assume. The other one I'd be curious about is Martins, because he's kind of good at that stuff, it looks like. So maybe he'll be able to hang with them on that a little bit. Yeah, didn't he also just have a big deadlift set? I think he did like 915 for three. Yeah, that's what I thought. That's a lot.

It is. We have more big deadlifts to report, too, but we'll save that for later on in the show. We don't want to ruin big lifts right now. That's true. That's a good point. Should we get to today's feature presentation? Yeah. Now that we're done with all the ads and all of that stuff, we can get right to the show.

Now that you're caught up on what we watch on television, that's usually... You've got to get the most important things out of the way first. For us, spring, the new year, it's kind of a time when a lot of people start hitting meats again yep and uh it's been quite a while you're talking about like rocky scenes in the butcher shop you know yeah running upstairs doing all types of crazy stuff uh but now is the time where we have a lot of guys that are getting right back into uh meat season yeah you know yeah uh getting peaked ready to go and it's been quite a while since we've just talked about like getting ready for a powerlifting meet yeah uh or maybe it hasn't we don't even know for sure we're so far into this thing we don't even know what we've talked about anymore we actually discussed that we're not sure how much we have ever talked about it before so

maybe maybe we've done two episodes on it maybe we've never talked about it before either way either way you guys probably don't remember either yeah so uh we'll give uh this can be our 2019 version of yes what to do before powerlifting meet and really our opinions could have changed since 2016 we do have years of experience that's right that we can contribute to this conversation so and probably an interesting uh thing to kick that off with is our very own massonomics rookie cards that uh as you're listening to this those have been uh published onto our instagram feed you can check them out there um i'll run down yours here first this is from march 2015 tommy defay's first uh meet uh the world was so innocent back then. Yes, it was the South Dakota USAPL State Meet in Rapid City, South Dakota.

Your squat, do you know the exact number? Low 400s, I think. 402. 402. Would that have been a second attempt, do you think? Yep, I missed my third, I know. I know I missed my third. Bench?

275-ish? 276. Was that a third? I don't remember you missing a bench. I think that was also a second attempt, I think. And deadlift? Okay, my deadlift is the exercise, is the lift that's come along the most.

Was it like 415? 430. 430, okay. But technically, what's it like four 15, four 30, four 30. Okay. But technically has it come? What's your best squat? Ooh. You know, my best squat is five 40, whatever the kilo is.

Is it five 40? Oh, five 40. And what's your best deadlift? Is it the same? Five 40. Yeah. So your squat has actually technically come along the most. I mean, yeah.

Just from a pure number right there. So 1108 total. 1108. And I was at what what, the 183? Yes, 183 weight class. 183 pound weight class, which also is really hard to believe. I think you weighed towards the top.

You were like 182 or 181 or something like that. Or 179. 179 was the open powerlifting stat, which I didn't know. The other info on your rookie card, Tommy has gone on to co-host the Mastanomics podcast and can be found at booth 528 at the Arnold. Most important fact right there.

Yes, yes. And that's what you looked like. That is me. Dang, that's a skinny guy. Yeah, so if you want to check these out, you can check them out on our Instagram page. It's probably the easiest way to find it uh my rookie card also march 2015 i thought it was the same date yep south dakota uh state usa pl meet um my body weight i'm not 100 sure i i think i was like 267 268 something

like that would you like to know exactly, Tanner? Sure. I'm more curious if I'm right when I estimate that. Your body weight, 272.7. Okay, 272. I guess that was more. Well, it does say.7. So we don't want to round anything here, lose any scientific credibility. That's true.

My squat was 518 pounds and i know that was a third attempt my bench was 424 i know that was the third attempt and my deadlift was 606 and that was a third attempt for 1548 does that match up with the numbers that you see there yeah it does that means i did this right i didn't mess up that means i didn't tell good stuff that means i didn't artificially inflate my numbers for the sake of uh looking cool on instagram well and that was the thing we both were just like you said hey do you want to do a meet and i said sure yeah and like i wasn't waiting for the perfect time or years to develop um you just got to get in there and do it. Yep. So that actually – That's tip number one.

That should be the first tip of this, and it does lead into it really well, is don't wait for the perfect time because, okay, let's say you're in my situation. Over the years, I've put over 300 pounds on my total. Yep. Still, just place totally average at meets. So at this point like what would i have waited for yeah if you waited to be a strong 600 pounds on my total okay well then now yeah i could probably win a meet now right but um also why would i sit out for six years what's the point

of that right to be on the sidelines if you have the desire to compete yeah there's no reason to and i don't think there's anything that uh makes you progress faster than saying you're going to do a meet oh definitely there is not a thing that does that definitely so that that probably could be the biggest training secret want to get bigger stronger faster yeah sign up for a meet yeah nothing else is going to do it more than actually putting a deadline on the calendar that is true because you can't you can't make excuses for yourself and you've witnessed i've you know we've witnessed that many times with people in the gym is like when you're coming up to a meet you just you train uh it's all it's different yeah you're

it's it keeps you more focused than anything it keeps you more accountable for everything because there are no excuses like you have to go out there and i guess you can make excuses on the day of but your numbers you're not now with open powerlifting your numbers are recorded yeah yeah and you don't get to put like an excuse next to it in open powerlifting well i was feeling really sick this day and uh they weren't playing my music and it was earlier right uh they my attempt got rushed and no it's just like the numbers there yes and yeah the the common excuse of not being strong enough i think just isn't a good isn't is not a good reason to not do a meet. You might have other good reasons, but I don't think that would be a good one.

It's worrying about that you're not strong enough or that you just need one more year to get a little stronger. Because a year from now, you're going to think, well, one more year, I'll just be even. I mean, with this thing, no one's ever said I'm strong enough. Right. I'm going to shut it down there. And that's kind of the premise of the whole thing is you always want to be stronger anyways that that's just the nature of the sport yeah so yeah i mean that that was uh probably step number one is uh with a meet just sign up and

do one yeah um preferably now you do one close to your close to where you live because that takes a whole stress level out of travel. Right. There's so many variables of places maybe you've never been before and venues you don't know about. And depending on where you live in the country, that might – like for us, it's probably more difficult for us than almost anyone else. Yeah. For us, the closest meet was 300 miles away. Yeah. So we had to travel six plus hours to go to a meet and that

was the closest one around yeah but yeah i don't think most people have that yeah most people would not especially if you're from the west coast or or even like i think the south yeah or the northeast yeah there's no or even like chicago more eastern midwest than us i think just outside of our general area there's no shortage of meat. So, yeah, sign up and do one is the first rule there. But when it comes to getting ready, what do you – do you have any good tips, Tanner, for just general meat prep, getting ready? Well, I think you want to have a certain amount of time to plan it out ahead.

So I guess if it is your first meet and we're saying just do it, the nice thing would be to have, I don't know, I would say at least 12 weeks ahead of time to be able to say, I'm going to do it in three months. I think that's kind of the magic number too. I think 12 weeks gives you three months. That gives you plenty of time to prepare. You know, just get everything in order and make sure that you're going to be ready to go.

If you've been lifting for a long time and it's the spur of the moment and it's two weeks later, I mean, if you're first one, you're not going to, you're not out anything still, but a better plan, I think, is to have about 12 weeks, eight weeks maybe even you could do it, but I would like the number, a minimum of 12 weeks. And especially if you're doing, like,

someplace that has stricter, whether you agree with them or not stricter rules like the usa pl where like bench you got to keep heels on the ground keep your head on the bench like keep your butt down just training with the paws like those are things that unless you've been training specifically for me you've probably never done those things before and don't expect yeah and don't expect to just be good at those in a week or two you know like it does take some time to readjust your training and even readjust your numbers to compensate for those the commands because if you've been used to bench pressing and you maybe maxed out frequently and everything but you've never done it a pause never done it with your head on the bench

the number your numbers for competition could and you've never done it after maxing out on a squat that very same day. There has to be sometimes a change in expectation of the numbers that you can do in a meet. Same with a deadlift. You have to do it after squatting, after benching. There may be a change in what you think really is a max deadlift for you. Absolutely. But yeah, that's a good point for that 12 weeks not only to maybe kind of peak yourself to a certain degree and i'll get used to the heavier weights

but just getting used to lifting that way if you've never done a meet before getting used to making sure you are hitting depth on on a squat uh making sure you are locking out a deadlift and following all the bench rules yep so the big one there is just knowing the rules of your federation yeah that's gonna be one of the biggest issues you're going to be having on the day is playing to the actual rules not just your gym rules yes but playing to the rules of the the refs or the the judges you're competing in front of right um so you're going to want to get very familiar with that so there's no surprises the day up we've both i think every meet we've ever been in um there's been people in the warm-up room asking actually about rules like not familiar with right whether it's bench rules or squat like

not knowing that i think every federation you have to wait for the rat command i don't think i'm not sure maybe i think you will i don't know i bet you have to yeah but it's pretty common where you have to i mean even just the down you know, you got to wait for a lot of these commands. And so every meet I've been in, there's, I think, been at least one person that's been like, are you sure? How does that go for like not completely confident in the rules? So there's people out there, but yeah, you just save yourself from some stress, being familiar with those things. And there's always a rules meeting too before it and you know you're really antsy and nervous at the time but i would suggest just like trying your best to listen during that because

they do go over that so as a good refresher that day of listen you know don't just stand there and you know you're like thinking about your attempts and thinking about everything else listen to what the guys are actually saying because if it can buy you more leeway i would say too like if you're like consciously like focus on and then like the the judges know that you're uh uh paying attention to what's going on especially as someone that's their first meet yeah right you know especially someone that's their first meet like a lot of judges and everything they want to see you do well and like have fun with most lifters too i mean that is the nice thing about power lifting is most people are good people and will go out of their way to help you yeah there's a difference between being a distraction and things like that

but as far as just needing help just clarification for how the meet runs most people have are that around that have done one are more than happy to help which is really really awesome yeah and that's what i think can be a really big bonus. If you can do your first meet in a way that you're going in with a friend or multiple people that you are, maybe not even a close friend, but just someone you know from maybe your gym or lifting that's doing it too, that can really help a lot because they can help you out. They're going through the warm-ups at the same time as you,

so they can literally walk you through it right as you're doing it and uh what weigh-ins are going to be like what equipment check-ins are going to be like all of that yeah again that's all going to vary so much by federation but yes yeah just have an idea that that stuff's there and you got to be ready for it yeah but leading up to the meet though another thing that's really big is like your programming and peaking. Like you're not going to want to just be – I mean there's so many people that are much more knowledgeable on this than us. Than us, yeah. And I would say there's definitely an art to this.

Most people that think they're good probably aren't as good as they think they are at it. But peaking for a meet is a very – it's a very particular skill set. There's no way around that. a very particular skill set. There's no way around that. You can look online. There's tons of resources online. There's programs. You can hire a coach. There's a lot of resources out there to help you, but you do got to go into a meet a little different than just your everyday training. Probably at its most basic level, the key principle here is you're going to want to decrease volume while increasing intensity. Yes. Because that is what's hard to recover from is crazy volume sets.

Yes. You're not going to be a week out from the meet hitting sets of five by five. Yes. That's just not what you should be doing. Yeah. And even more basic, you're going to do less reps, higher weight. Yes. Leading up to it.

Yes. Tapering up to it. Making that even simpler. Yeah. Less reps, more weight. Yep. The closer the meet day comes, the less work you're doing. higher weight yes leading up to it tapering up to it making that even simpler yeah less reps more weight the closer the closer the meat day comes the less work yeah and then when you get very close to it but i do think even amongst people that are experts there is some difference i do think even from person to person there's personal variance like right for sure but

generally most people then when you get very close, you're going to keep the volume low, but then you're going to drop the intensity too. So the weight's going to come down right at the very end. So the idea is that your strength is still there, but you reduce your fatigue at the same time. Because the name of the game here is recovery. Exactly.

But what's interesting, I have heard more people say like that are really into programming and stuff lately that they are becoming more of the mindset that that taper needs to be even less but like you like volume still low but keeping uh some of the intensity high like closer to the end yep you know i'm sure like sure. Like, you'll hear some of the bigger guys, like the guys that can deadlift 900 pounds, having their last deadlift session two, three weeks before a meet. And that makes a difference. It does. If they're deadlifting 900 pounds.

Yes. And guys like us that are not getting those numbers, we don't need that much time to recover. And for the most part, we're basically the week before is when we start to really slow things down yes that's a probably a pretty safe rule for general rule yeah especially people that are your first power lifting me yes you know we're not we're not talking about people that can deadlift you know nine eight seven six hundred pounds most of the time you know like most people's first meet they're gonna deadlift probably between 250 and 500 pounds. You know, that's.

And that is the other thing, though, is with a meet, you need to be prepared to have your attempts. And so with that, like, leading up to that, you do need to start taking some heavier singles. You know, I'm not saying max out every week before the meet. Like, no, don't do that. You don't need to max out. That's probably, like, just as a general rule rule you don't really even need to max out like you don't have to you don't have to fail no and you shouldn't why would you want to right you do need to start maybe taking some more stretch you know if you especially haven't been touching

singles or doubles in a long time start kind of feeling out like what is that you know that upper end of what's there and get get an idea you know so if you're going into your first meet and you think you're going to deadlift 500 pounds you know maybe a couple weeks out you you take like an attempt at 450 you see how that feels you know and if that 450 is like stuck okay then now we know like 500 is not in the cards and if the 450 feels really good okay you you have an idea now of where you're going with your attempts yeah you do have to have some sort of idea that raises another thing of just looking strictly at openers a lot of people always you know there's some rule of thumbs for openers one thing people say is something that you could do for a set of three

and i think that's that's a safe way to look at it i think if you can do something for a set of three to me yeah that seems really safe and it should be i would say if you're looking at bench it's not something that you can do for the sloppiest sloppiest of hell on your best day ever touch and go set of three it's something you could do for a reasonable set of three to competition standard because that's where you could get yourself in a tricky spot i think too like same with deadlift it'd be like a set that you can do of three with straps on your favorite bar ever with the bumper plates touch and go you can get for three that might not be your opener number you know that might you're you know you might be uh

giving yourself too much credit for that yeah yeah and really like when it comes down to openers especially like in your first couple meets, I mean, I still almost have this mentality that get something good. Well, my openers aren't going to – Like, hit it fast. I don't plan on my openers counting. No, they don't. At the end of the day, the opener should not matter. Do you plan on your opener being your best lift?

If you don't, then, I mean, it shouldn't even matter what you do for it, really, because you plan on hitting better ones after that. So, yeah, just make your opener feel really good like that should be a momentum builder and when that is like that just from personal experience i can say that feels good when you're like it feels awesome to run out on a platform in front of a crowd and just crush away and be like oh yeah nothing builds up momentum and confidence more than that that's true um i still am lucky enough that i've never gone out and had hit an opener

been like oh my god i'm in trouble like the closest thing i got to that was this last squat or this last meet my first squat attempt i just had the pins too high and it was like whoa i'm really off on this thing luckily i got my rack height adjusted for the next one the second one came out and felt even better than the first and that was awesome you know that's what you want with those things because that's a bad feeling if you come out with your opener and you grind through it and you're like, whoa, now what do I do? Where do you even go from there? And just mentally that's such a screws up your mind

versus the feeling of, yeah, I crushed that. Now, regardless of how strong you actually are, not just knowing you can go into that next lift, whatever the difference is going to be, and just knowing that you have the confidence to do it. That makes a huge difference. And I think with attempts, really your goal for your first couple of meets should be to put a high number of attempts on the board.

You want to be going 7 for 9, 8 for 9, 9 for 9. I don't think you want 6 for 9. So your first one, we think you went seven for nine. I think I went seven for nine. I think seven for nine to nine to nine should be your goal. I don't think you – don't feel like if you don't go nine for nine that it is an enormous loss. If you go eight for nine, seven for nine, even maybe six for nine,

that's not – that could still be a pretty successful day but yes it could but if you're going like you don't want to go in and miss every single right right exactly you know that's not fun because you're probably missing some prs then yes you know uh so just being smart and like having those things written down because it more than likely your attempts are going to be called in kilos and so you want to you know that's that's just a good point in itself like it's going to be in kilos yeah if you've never done a meet before you might not even like it will all be in kilos so like start go into the notes app on your phone start writing down you know for sure your first attempt and then like what you think like the second and

third attempts could be yeah and get that in pounds and kilos you know and have that there and that just it takes off so much stress of like the day of being like oh i should think about what i'm going to try and do today right there should be no mystery at that point like yeah what kind of the game what the rough game plan is you should know your openers before that day like yes like that that week going in or i mean to me i would probably know my openers, a general idea weeks before, and then you maybe fine tune them slightly between here and there. But yeah, you should know those. Yeah. And I mean, really the, the biggest mystery will be like a third attempt.

Yeah. Like the day of, you might find out like things aren't feeling the best. Second attempts get tough or second attempts are really easy. That's when you can really start to move that third attempt around. Yeah. get tough or second attempts are really easy that's when you can really start to move that third attempt around yeah um yeah because a lot of times i'd say you you almost already kind of know your second attempt you you you have assuming the first attempt goes like it's supposed to i kind of know what my second attempt is going to be and maybe you have a range where like

maybe there's a reason i want to move it down a little if the first felt different maybe not that often would you need to move it up because I think you're planning on it like in a – The third attempt you might move up. Yes, the third attempt is where there's more – Yeah, the third attempt is where there's going to be more liberty to make an adjustment where you're like, ooh, I thought I was going to do 600, but now my only choice after how hard that second was

is I'm going to move up the one increment, you know, the two kilos or whatever the smallest jump is. Or, man, I was planning on doing 600, but that second move so good I would almost be crazy not to do 615. And if this is your first meet, there's probably a good chance both of those will happen. Yes, yes, yes. If this is your first meet, there's probably a good chance both of those will happen. Yes, yes, yes. We still laugh going back and watching old meets and being like, man, some of our attempt selections were way too hard and way too easy. And that's just part of it, just one, just help you through the day. Um,

if you're doing your first meet or your second meet, and even if you can just go to the meet with someone, you know, or if you can compete with one of your friends, um, that's really helpful too, because now you have someone where you can kind of bounce things off of. They can help if you're in a different flight, they can help you warm up, load plates, kind of keep an eye for, you know, the way the meat's moving, you know, just the way, how warmups, how fast your pace should be going on these things. There's a lot of variables that are out of your control, but having kind of a second set of eyes and ears can really help push it more in your favor. Yeah. Cause when you get done with an attempt, you're like shake, you know,

you're like, that's when you have to go select your next attempt. So it is nice just to have someone, even if you're not going to listen to them that much, just someone to be like, hey, what do you think of this? And that's been, to me, one of the most helpful things the last two meets, Tanner, you haven't lifted at it, but you've basically the entire meet prep were there the whole time uh right myself and several other guys were getting ready so you knew kind of how things were moving for us and yeah um you know as soon as we get done with an attempt going to the judges table

you were right there and you could say like yeah that didn't look really fast or like uh like you had a bench one time was it this last year or two years ago when it was like your first or your second it was almost something weird happened yeah Yeah. I think it was my first one. Yeah. Something weird. I like my shoulder was getting tight. Something weird happened. You're like, Oh, I'd be kind of careful on the second one, but then you hit your second one really well. It felt great. Yeah. So just having like that second set of eyeballs, because when you're out on the platform, you're just in such a different element. It is really hard to, you know, you do have the feel for it, but it is really hard to, I mean, it's not your normal situation.

So it is helpful to have that more objective, critical look from a third party. Yeah. So you talked about the warm-up room, and that's a good point, too. And even in general, with everything in the meet, a big piece of advice I would have is try to always give yourself enough time that you're not rushed. And like, I would say that from like equipment check-in, I would want to be there. Not the last person there because not for weigh-ins.

I want to not be the last person there for in the warmup room. If I had to pick between starting to warm up too early or starting to warm up too late, I would choose to warm up too early or starting to warm up too late i would choose to warm up too early because i do not want to get back because it is a clusterfuck sometimes with uh maybe you're limited on the number of racks you have back there you don't know who's back there guys that you're you lift way heavier than and they're spending too much time on lower weights or there could be guys that are way stronger than you and they're just gonna blow past your wings

you know and you're like i didn't get to warm up the way I want to. So, yeah, you want to give yourself as much time as possible. Yes, especially with the warm-ups because I do not like the feeling of being – because I just – the way I am, I get that feeling anyways. Like I'm going to be in a rush even if it's not. So then if beyond that I really am having to be in a rush. Like it, it, uh, the stress, there's enough stress of just doing what you're supposed to do there. Let alone like adding on these other things of,

uh, not managing your time correctly. And with that time thing, just being there early, um, it gives you a chance to scope out the venue where the bathroom you're at. You're going to be going to the bathroom a lot. So find where those bathrooms are at.

Like maybe there's a closer one nearby that isn't super obviously marked, but knowing about that, that can save you time. I don't know. Is there concessions? If you forget to pack something, can you grab a Gatorade or something there? Is there water around? There's a good chance you'll probably drink all the water you bring. Is there a water fountain nearby?

Just things like that are things that make the day go much smoother. Being prepared with food and drink in general is a good idea. Have something, either have it with you already or plan the night before or the morning of if you can. You don't want to, like I said, concessions maybe for a drink or something, but you don't want to be relying on nachos and that stuff during your meat day. You want to keep it pretty bland. From my experience, do you eat very much? You don't need very much you know it's nice to have something between last couple years we've been lucky that the meats ran really fast so like you get done with an attempt you

might have time for like a little snack ball or like maybe like a half of a sandwich right but even then like you got to start warming up again yeah i your stomach's just not in it but i personally don't like lifting on a completely no stomach and i am someone that i during a normal course today i would eat a lot during the day and during meets that's just not like that's not what my stomach want you know there's just so many nerves and other things i do think you want to make yourself eat a little bit between you know after your squat before your bench after your bench before your uh deadlift i I do think you want to be getting in some fluids and some food, but you don't need to go crazy with that.

Yeah, and going, you know, talking about this food thing, don't even worry about cutting weight on your first one. That's what I agree. You're not going to be. Is there ever a situation where you need to cut weight on your first ever powerlifting meeting? No, because you're not going to nationals. No. So as good as you think you are you're not

good enough to go to nationals and also remember nobody cares and nobody like that's something a good point to remember in general nobody cares yeah like just it's it just it adds stress that you don't need um do you really plan on these being your best numbers ever no you don't okay well then you're gonna have bigger numbers at your next one anyways and this meat won't even matter in the scheme of things it's just an experience thing so don't? Okay. Well, then you're going to have bigger numbers at your next one anyways, and this meat won't even matter in the scheme of things. It's just an experience thing. So don't even worry about cutting meat. Cutting weight and cutting meat. Don't cut your meat either.

Don't cut your meat either. But, yeah, don't even worry about cutting weight because you also don't want to go into a meat and do like, well, in training I hit these really good numbers, but, I mean, I did cut 10 pounds, so my total went down about 50 pounds over what I thought it was. But I did cut 10 pounds so uh my total went down about 50 pounds over what i thought it was but i did i did cut 10 pounds like that's not the name of the game i don't like that justification the name of the game here isn't to get skinnier the name of the game here is to

lift a bigger total and i would for the elite lifters i understand cutting weight yeah but that is only at the unless you're at a national or world stage there's not a point no exactly like i even get bummed out like as a spectator like when i see oh someone so hit all of these crazy squat numbers bench numbers deadlift numbers and they went to a meet and their best attempts were not even what they hit and like were significantly under what they hit in training it's like well they did have a really good total their weight class but it's like i'd rather just see a bigger total yeah it's more fun that way i agree and that like we kind of talked about it before but i would say it again for for someone a beginner going into your first meet don't worry about hitting your prs in the gym before the meet

the place that you want to hit your prs is at the meet like you don't as much as you're going to want to like if you're you've peaked well and you feel like you're strong enough to hit some PRs before it, I would, even though I would be guilty at times of doing the same thing, and everyone probably is, if you can just pull back the reins a little bit to save your PR attempts for the platform. Because as little as powerlifting matters in the grand scheme of everything, at least you're at the one time where it kind of will be etched in somewhere. You know, like that's the spot to do it. You want to get PRs when they actually count.

Yes, yes. Right. Yep. So, yeah, just a little patience there. It goes a long way. Yeah. We're getting down there on time. Is there any other key takeaways you have?

People getting prepped for a meet. No, I would say to recap my the most important things i would say prepare anything and everything you can just in general prepare because it saves you stress the day is stressful enough anything you can do uh ahead of time to be ready for it will helpful uh be helpful the thing we didn't talk about is equipment you know uh yeah and that goes right back to the rule book thing. Just be informed of the rules. You don't want to find out that, like, your knee wraps or your knee sleeves

or whatever it is aren't allowed because that does feel a lot different now. Yeah. So be aware of the rules. Yeah, so that and then I would say, again, I think it's really helpful if you can go with someone, like, to be your handler handler, to lift with that's lifted before, any of that. Or if you can't do that, be friendly in the warm-up room and at weigh-ins and stuff. And you'll probably find people that will ask you, oh, this is your first meet? Hey, I can help you with this and that.

And there will be people willing to help you. So be open to being helped, too. Yeah, and I would say at the end of all of this, my biggest thing I could say is it's powerlifting. I, for the most part, don't even remember what my totals or numbers are. I struggle to even remember what that is. So none of this really matters. So just like cool it. Don't be a dick. Yeah. Don't be a dick. Like don't be that guy that thinks you're too strong or too cool for anyone. Like be helpful. And you you know everyone's there to have fun yeah that's the reason no one's there to like get paid right um because that's especially at a beginner level which we were

talking about like it's like everyone's there to like do what they like do a hobby that they enjoy doing in their free time and so it's lifting weights it doesn't need to be more dramatic or more complicated than what it is. I've met, we've met a lot of good people through lifting friends. Yeah. Go and be ready to like meet cool people. Cause this is your chance to be around other people that like,

like consider this to be one of their main. Yeah. Yeah. You're not the weirdo. Like you're just one of the guys. Yeah. Some people that probably rubs them the wrong way, but for the most part,

you know, you are just like everyone else here and you're all on the same page you're all ready to have fun uh embrace it and uh you know have a good time yeah i think that's all pretty pretty sage advice yes wise beyond our years maybe in like three or four more years we'll uh do this again having forgot that we just did it now i hope so uh good stuff um tanner do we have anything else to cover today yeah we of course have other things to cover we get into our uh segment section of the the podcast um we big lifts um i don't know that i have any written there but one big lift uh brad knight's. Did you see what Big Brad did? Brad hit the old 900.

Yeah, 900-pound deadlift. The road to 900. Yeah. I wonder what his road is to now. He's kind of running out of roads. Yeah. I guess you have to go hashtag road to. You know, when you're on the road to 500 to 600, there's a lot of roads after that one.

Wait, I thought the road goes from 500 to 700. You're right're right well yeah 700 and then 900 so you got at least two more roads yeah but uh after you hit the road to 900 there's not a lot of not a lot of exit ramps on that one so i'm not sure what the uh next road is lonely road he probably knows what it is i don't know what that road is though yeah he so he competed and uh i think it was uh they did a a log lift a log press a farmer's carry and a deadlift and i don't know it's it's we're just fresh off of it and i think the only thing he really shared so far was his deadlift and he got nine nine hundred it's a lot so that's really awesome of Of the massonomics guys we have on our athletes page, we have Brad, who has now deadlifted 900. Chris Weiss, who has deadlifted 915 in powerlifting competition.

And John Oldham, who just recently deadlifted 800 for the first time. Yeah. There's a common thread there. Yeah, they're strong. I'm not saying. The common thread, they're wearing massonomics stuff. That is. I'm not saying it has to do with a big thread there. Yeah, they're strong. I'm not saying... The common thread, they're wearing Masonomic stuff. That is. I'm not saying it has to do with the big deadlift. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so congrats to Brad. That is awesome. Yeah, that is pretty sweet. Good job. What's Brad's nickname? Kind of fat, kind of strong. Yeah, that's his handle. But what's his nickname?

Oh, Night Moves. Yeah, Night Moves. Night Moves, Night Moves. Mr. Night Moves. Yeah. That's kind of all I had. That was the big thing I had for big lifts. Yeah. Night moves, night moves, night moves. Mr. Night moves. Yeah. Uh, that's kind of all I had. That was the big thing I had for,

uh, big lifts. Did you have anything else? That was to me, really the big lift of the week. That's the kind of overshadowed a week from now. I think we're gonna have a lot more big lifts, but,

um, yes, a week from now, uh, post Arnold, we are going to have probably a lot of big lifts to talk about. Okay. Um, best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week. we are going to have probably a lot of big lifts to talk about. Okay.

Best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week. I didn't write this down, but I do want to find this really quick if I can here. It was on the repost of the Massonomics versus of Arnold Schwarzenegger versus Arnold Palmer. And I want to find this comment. It was really recent here, so I should be able to get to it quick. One of the criteria on the Versus was nickname. Arnold Palmer was the king, and Arnold Schwarzenegger was the Austrian oak,

which Arnold has a number of nicknames. I would agree that right off the bat. But someone did comment, and this isn't our best, best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week, but it did make me pause to think that this could be a candidate for best comment. He said, I've never heard of Arnold being also known as Austrian Oak. And that's not the comment that I said. Yeah, I guess my response was you came to the right place to learn something today then. And he says, yeah, but it's weird because his last name is German,

so to call him Austrian Oak makes no sense. And my response was, Arnold is from Austria. Really? I didn't see that. Yeah, it was just recent. But his comment was, but it's weird because his last name is German, so to call him Austrian Oak makes no sense. And my response, I wanted to be like Google Arnold Schwarzenegger. Did they say anything after that?

No. Oh. Yeah. Other people liked the comments. I didn't know if they normally would. Well, maybe he learned two things that day then. Well, and the original comment itself is not worthy of best comment of the week. That's a pretty –

It was the follow-up. Yeah. It's like, oh, you're in the clear. You learned something. Yeah. You don't have to say anything. Like, and I don't – you better Google something first before you're, like, challenging people on it, just like a really simple Google.

Well, wait a minute. Yeah. Like, he's not. He's German. And also, you know, I don't know the world history of German and Austria and everything, but I do know that they're pretty close to each other and their names are kind of similar to each other. So I understand the mistake. But not this time.

No, I'm not just. I'm not going to let it fly. All right. Best segment of the week. Underrated and overrated. Underrated or overrated, not end. Oh, I thought we were changing the rules this week. Maybe there's some topics in here that are both, but we're going to stick with underrated or overrated today.

And what underrated or overrated is, it's lightning round questions. Some of them are pop culture, and we also mix in a few lifting related topics in there uh tommy does have his druthers of responding either as quickly or as lengthy as he wants so the questions are lightning round the answers not necessarily it all depends that was probably the fastest we went through the rules that i've went through the rules in quite a while. If you missed it, cover it again every week. All right. Underrated or overrated? Satellite radio.

Oh, way overrated. There's just not a need for it. Ten years ago, it might be underrated. You know, you get some programming you don't normally get. But now with Spotify, Apple Music, whatever your streaming music platform is, you don't need it. They make playlists. Like that's what a radio host does is they make playlists for you. These stations make playlists for you.

Talk radio, podcasts. There's just no reason for satellite radio anymore. I guess if you're a hardcore howard stern fan then maybe because i believe that he's not on a podcast no as far as i know he is still satellite he gets paid tons so maybe that's why he's oh yeah that is yes that is why um is it serious xm is one thing now that is so when i say satellite radio it is just serious xm isn't it right yeah there's no reason for it anymore i bet their sales have gone way down the last few years, haven't they? That's what I would like.

I'm sure you could actually look. You could probably find out online. If they're not partnered with General Motors to put it in brand new vehicles or whatever, they're probably not. And just get people like the people that have a lot of money and get their subscription and just never know to cancel it. That has to be their primary customer. Yeah, I would agree.

So you're going... Oh, satellite radio, way overrated. Yeah. Overrated or underrated? Pennies. Oh. Pennies are overrated. Probably that piece of currency that shouldn't exist

because it has essentially no value now. But because of the world we live in, can't quite get rid of them yet. Canada, I don't know if we talked about this before or not. I think maybe I mentioned on the podcast, Canada, correct me if I'm wrong, Canadian listeners, which we do have a number of out there, but I believe they got rid of the penny. They no longer mint the penny. It's still legal tender that you can spend, but they do not put more pennies into circulation.

And I think that that's true. The only thing it up i'm not sure how do you make that because there's always going to be that thing that's 5.99 yeah or 4.99 how do you make change but then you just well you just i don't think you can price things that way then anymore or what yeah i don't know yeah that's but yeah i'm sure it doesn't make any sense to, there's probably tons of studies on it. It probably costs more to have the penny than it does to just get rid of it. I think that that's the case. Like it costs, I think government-wise. Yeah, I thought I heard something like that one time.

So overrated. It's overrated. Underrated or overrated. Relevant to this week's episode. Starbucks. Starbucks. Not dumb Starbucks, just Starbucks. The real Starbucks.

episode starbucks starbucks not dumb starbucks just starbucks the real starbucks yeah you know it's the same thing of like people that will the purists that will rag on like starbucks or subway or any of these places saying well it's not that good yeah i get it it's not that good but the thing is is that you kind of get the same thing every time. Like if I go to Subway or an order of steak and cheese, I know what I'm getting. Like there's there shouldn't unless it's really, really bad. There shouldn't be any surprises with it. If anything, there should be the surprise should be like, oh, that was actually a little better than I thought. Same thing like with Starbucks, all these places here. We have caribou coffees, too.

You know, they make a cup of coffee that's predictable. I'm by no means a coffee snob so i'm like sure it's different than my regular black coffee yeah it's a break from the norm i appreciate that um but i get okay the question though starbucks underrated overrated starbucks is everywhere so because it's everywhere i have to say it's all over the place. I think maybe that they've been closing some in some areas. I think I've heard or read something about that. They can't keep making more. At that point, they're just going to be inside themselves. But in the little

town that we live in, there's two within. And they're a hundred yards from each other. Yeah. Which, that's weird. That doesn't make any sense. The little, like, I'm... The few times I have had something from there, I thought it was good, I guess. They do have some things that I really enjoy. Me as a shopper, I'm not typically going to spend that much on coffee, so I'm not going to be a common customer.

Two coffees for $10, is it something you prefer, Tanner? That's crazy to me, is the thing. But not to say I would never do it. I could say there could be a special situation. For me, that's more of like the weekend treat. Like, oh, I'm out and about. Like, yeah, let's get some tasty coffees. Right, right.

People say that Starbucks plain coffee has a metallic-y taste or something. See, I never get just their plain coffee. When I go there, I'm getting something with some flavor in it. Yeah. But overall, you're saying overrated? Yeah, overall it's overrated. Okay. I think some people are pretty fanatical.

Yeah, they probably are. Okay. You remember at the beginning of underrated, overrated, how I said sometimes we mix in some lifting-related topics? Here, number four on underrated, overrated is where we get to that. All right. So underrated or overrated, underwear rules for powerlifting meets. That's overrated.

It's so stupid. Because there's a big difference between underwear and supportive equipment right um yeah it just that's probably the biggest one i'm not sure what everyone else's underwear rules are but usapl being that they have to be briefs because obviously the ply of uh boxer briefs is too supportive yeah i that logic, a ply of your shirt is just dumb. It's a dumb rule. I agree completely, but I guess

the alternative is that's where the slippery slope is if you say, okay, you can wear spandex. Because to me, I think you should be able to wear spandex shorts. Because that's not helping you lift more, but it's just a more comfortable thing to wear I think when you're squatting. But thenex shorts. Yeah. Because that's not helping you lift more, but it's just like a more comfortable thing to wear, I think, when you're squatting. But then it's like someone gets ones that are made like three layers thick. And then it's like, well, is that okay?

And then, you know, like. Yeah. So that's why I do it. It seems like you would apply. It gets so hard to enforce. Right. Like a thickness rule. Right.

Because I reband warm pants. Right. You shouldn't be allowed to wear those. Yeah. They shouldn't be allowed. Right. But that is a, any common personanned warm pants. Right. You shouldn't be allowed under. Yeah, they shouldn't be allowed. Right. But that is a – any common person looking at that is like that's a completely different product. It should almost be a common sense rule.

It is, but you need a hard rule in the books. It just doesn't seem like it would be that hard to enforce a rule or to write up a rule discussing the thickness of the material. Right. Because they're not even in the same league. No. Right. All right. Overrated, though, generally. Yeah, underrated, right Overrated though Alright, last one here

Underrated or overrated Sour Patch Kids SPKs If you will This is tough I like Sour Patch Kids I don't hardly eat them But they are good

I think it's underrated. What about their distant relatives, the Swedish Fish? Swedish Fish. Yes, yes. Those are good, too. My son, Jack, really enjoys Swedish Fish. It's basically Sour Patch Kids without the sour. Yeah.

The thing about, like, I guess Sour Patch Kids are good. I mean, all that stuff is good. I don't eat it, but it's like, who would eat that and be like, ugh, yuck? I guess if you have zero sour tolerance. Yeah, yeah. But what about Warheads? Just thinking off the top of my head.

Do Warheads still exist? I think they do. They have to. There's no way I've had one in the last 10 years. Right. They could get pretty sour. I'm curious, actually, now what one in the last 10 years. Right. They could get pretty sour. I'm curious, actually, now what one would be like.

Yeah. Like, I get that just thinking about it. I get that feeling in the back of my mouth. Even as a kid, like, your sugar tolerance, you could just eat candy all day. And it's like, well, yeah, it's candy. It's just. And, like, now. That would, like, make you sick if you eat too much. Oh, yeah.

Like, even just a little bit. You're like, ew, I'm overdoing this. Yeah. But I would be really curious, like, how bad a warhead is now or maybe it's not maybe just as you get older your sour receptors just suck and yeah it's not sour anymore i don't know um i gotta do that the thing i would say about sour patch kids is there seems to be kind of a this is a how a lot of topics are sometimes i'm overrated underrated where they're good but for some reason like i don't know if it's in the lifting community or what it is love to just freak out about yeah and i'm like like i love sour patch

kids more than anyone's loved right right where i'm like are they that good or no they're not that good no as far as a candy i think they're probably pretty underrated there's not a lot of sour candies out there that are something you'd want to like eat a bag of i think they do fit that spot nicely but uh as far as they haven't they really like grown it like a pop eat a bag of i think they do fit that spot nicely but uh as far as they haven't they really like grown like a pop like a following and i can almost guarantee you that um pay attention to this people i'm 90 sure i will have a sour patch kids ad on my phone in the next day or so i get do you ever get sour patch ads i don't know if i ever have and it could just be dumb coincidence but we were this was not long ago We were on a road trip in a gas station, and for whatever reason,

they had the mega jumbo-sized bag of Sour Patch Kids, like the three- or four-pound bag, whatever it is. And we're like, oh, that's crazy. I've never seen one of these in a gas station. Said Sour Patch Kids 20 times, not even five miles down the road in the car, Sour Patch ads, multiple of them. Multiple of us had them on our phone. And you had done what?

We just talked about them. multiple of them because all of us had them on our phone and and you had done what though we just talked about okay that's that was that was my question is do this is a could be a topic for a whole nother thing but do you think we get fed ads fed ads based on just conversations that are picked up on devices well i mean even to this day people still don't completely know how facebook is getting your data yeah so i don't think it's unreasonable to think that yeah it probably has a bit of a tinfoil hat thing to it but uh i mean still we're still finding out facebook is routinely getting in um just the other day i read an article facebook got in trouble because they found out they uh through an app uh developers could find out women's menstruation cycles because it was being shared

through an app and like that's kind of like getting into like health stuff now and you know depending on what they signed up for it might have been in there but um yeah there's just facebook always has stuff going on behind the scenes that you don't know about right so knowing women's menstruation cycles underrated or overrated you know to the right person it's probably very underrated. Really cash in on that one. I don't want to go there. The bears can smell the menstruation. That's what bears are for. They know those things.

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