Massenomics Podcast - Ep.155: The Longevity of Big Guys in Strength Sports

Episode Date: March 25, 2019

We had a lot to get to in this episode. One of the many topics we covered was the rate of injury among the biggest and strongest powerlifters, and how hard it really is to stay healthy long enough to become one of the best.  We also update you on some Big Lifts, Best YouTube/IG Comment of the Week, and of course, Underrated/Overrated.

Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. Welcome, everyone, to episode 155 of the Mastanomics podcast, the world's strongest podcast. Your favorite two Mastanomics hosts are here again, Tommy and Tanner. Tommy, how's it going? Oh yeah, it's going so good.

It feels like it's been a little while. This is since it's, you know, the podcast has gone through several evolutions and stages in its long storied history. Illustrious. Very illustrious. And this most recent one, you know, when it's been just me and you now for, what's it been, six months? Yeah, that sounds about right. You know, we were at the Arnold. We haven't done a podcast in like three weeks.

This is the first time in that time period that we've gone that long without doing a podcast. And it felt really weird. I feel like I have a lot of things to tell the world. A lot's been happening. It doesn't seem any different to the listeners because it's just a podcast every week. We were just banging out content at the Arnold. But yeah, it's been weird not having this weekly podcast thing where it does get kind of

tough, believe it or not. As funny and entertaining as Tanner and I are, it does get kind of tough to do a podcast every single week. Especially if we do two like we do one later in the week and then earlier the next week. Just because we do it every week doesn't mean that they're seven days apart. Sometimes they can

be like three or four days apart. It does get tough to do that sometimes, believe it or not. It's like, dang, I used all my good lift short jokes and LaCroix and Jefferson deadlift stuff last week. We peaked last week. But, no, this week, man, we got three weeks of just backlog to sit on. We could go for hours this week. We could just start the over-under right now and could go for hours this week we just start the over under right now

we could just go two hours we could just on backlogged over under topics but we're not going to do that one important thing i did uh put in an official request on uh lacroix's website for a uh sponsorship i did see you on your instagram i thought it it was a joke. I didn't know. That was a joke. Okay. That was for the grams, but you did do an official. I did a real one. That was just for the grams where I said sponsor us, damn it, or something like that. You said, trust me, there's not a single podcast in the world that talks about you more. For an audience, that probably doesn't make any sense to hear about it. Right.

And that is kind of what I said. It's become a running joke with our podcasts, but we do talk about it right and i that's is kind of what i i said we it's it's become a running joke with our podcasts um but we do talk about it all the time we drink it on the show quite frequently so it is it would be a supernatural fit uh so on that topic i do have to report back that i've had two new la croix flavors since we last podcasted those. Key lime pomplemousse? No. Hybrid. Those two flavors. Lemon.

Have you ever had lemon? I don't think so. Sounds good. Very first sip, I was like, eh. And then I took another sip. I'm like, you know what? I'm on board. I like this.

So lemon, I approve. Actually got that as a birthday present from my mom. Had to laugh about that one. Does she know? I don't think she knows the joke. It was just one weekend. I think it was Thanksgiving weekend. We're at home and some other family member brought LaCroix's. And I'm like, oh, I love these things.

And they're like, oh, yeah, we do too. And not a lot of people have them. And so I was just like, that day, for whatever reason, I don't know, I was really thirsty. I was just putting them down. My mom's like, geez, you really do like those things. So then, yeah, I think she just saw the one time I liked them. I got, she gave me some for my birthday. So then, yeah, I think she just saw the one time I liked them. She gave me some for my birthday.

Sounds good right now, actually. It does. I could go for an icy cold delicious LaCroix. Just letting those little bubbles, that crisp flavor. Here's the thing. You guys don't know. Maybe LaCroix got back to us, and maybe this is sponsored by LaCroix. The next time you watch the podcast, the backdrop is just cases of LaCroix. Screw Monster or anything with caffeine in it.

No, we're going all natural here. That's the funny part. That's what makes it such a good possible sponsor for us too, since we're so not, you know, we're not the typical serious. It's a totally untapped market. Yeah. But the other flavor I did have was mango. I think I've had that. I'm officially, I just, I'm not a mango guy. Yeah. But the other flavor I did have was mango. I think I've had that. I'm officially, I just, I'm not a mango guy.

Yeah. I can say, if you like mango, it's probably one of their stronger flavored beverages. But I'm not a mango guy, so it ain't for me. That puts two on the list of flavors I don't like. Mango, key lime pie. Can't do them. Did you see on the Masonomics Instagram behind the scenes of how LaCroix is actually made? I did see that.

I think some people were really interested in that, I bet. Yeah. Got a lot of messages about, oh, that's the way that is. In case you're wondering, it's just a touch of flavor is where. Yeah. Someone, one of our recurring followers had messaged like, you pricks, I tried. I got that. You guys never stopped talking about it, so I finally got that stuff,

and I tried it. He's like, that was the worst thing I've ever had. Maybe kind of part of the joke too. I don't know. Like it doesn't deserve the hype we give it. He was kind of almost mad at us. He's like, you forced me to finally get it. And it was that. You're welcome. Yeah. almost mad at us like for he's like he forced me to finally get it and like that's that yeah

you're welcome yeah yeah uh you said you had two things to catch up on though i thought um was it in regards to la croix or i think before we started oh i did have some programs that i'd been you know we usually like to uh cover what we've been watching. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And first one I'll ask you, have you seen Free Solo? I just watched it, actually. So the other night, I was so tired I literally fell asleep watching it. Not because it's boring, and it is not at all, but I just could not keep my eyes open. So then it was two nights ago. I sat down and watched it right before he starts climbing.

And it's like, whoa, why are my hands sweating so bad right now like yeah i don't i'm not like a guy it's like i can't do heights i'm not saying i like heights but um yes i would recommend people watch that maybe we should give them a quick breakdown of what it is yeah it's uh is it alex is it honnold or honnold or i don't remember basically if you've seen much stuff on the internet this guy Alex is his name he's known for doing free climbing now Tanner and I we live in eastern South Dakota um the most elevated thing around here is a two-story house yeah literally zero geography yeah um so we don't know a thing about mountain climbing we're not the mountain climbing type like that's not something that we really even have a remote interest in. But this documentary was really, really good.

It was. And it follows this guy. He's a, like, world-class climber. But what really sets him apart is that he's known for taking the most challenging mountain climbing adventures, climbs, whatever you do, whatever you call it. He takes these and does it without any safety equipment so like literally he misses slips once he falls to his death and he's done like that's it yeah that's the one slip up that's the the one that blows my mind is shoes break

your shoe breaks you're done yeah and that's all it is yeah he just it doesn't it doesn't register with him like he doesn't. And, like, at one point, they take him in. Like, they do an MRI and whatever part of your brain that, like, registers fear. They're like, yeah, that part, like, doesn't seem to work. Yeah. And so it just follows this guy. And he literally has, like, his hands.

I'm sure, one, it's genetic to where he just has big hands. But then I'm sure also from his training, it's like he just has these enormous, like, monkey hands. Yeah, he does. And he's got to be, these enormous like monkey hands yeah he does and he's got to be like part monkey like the way he can just climb on things it's it's absurd uh and they do a good job showing this but the tiniest of of features in a rock that they can use as something to grab or something to use that was the other one and maybe this is just commonly known among mountain climbers rock rock climbers. Again, we don't do it, so I don't know. But at one point when he's getting ready to climb this mountain, he puts on his safety gear, climbs way up, and sits in one spot with a toothbrush and is brushing away sand to try and find a lip that's 1 16th of an inch to hang on to.

And I'm like, that's not anything to hang on to. But for him, it is. Yeah, it's crazy i when watching it i told my wife at the time this is a real thought i had if i told her if i ever suggest in any way that i want to go do any sort of rock climbing ever in my life remind me that i don't really want to do that because if i mean even with safety equipment i'd be like no that's not first of all i'd be very bad at it like i i can my just watching what he does well my arms would be cramped and shoulders would be cramped up in like 10 seconds yeah you have to have a certain level

of endurance yeah you have to have that body weight yeah right which almost doesn't really carry over from powerlifting it's almost It's almost like an inverse relationship. It is. You kind of have to be your body weight. The lower it is, the better you're going to be at it. Yeah. And then mobility and flexibility is a whole other thing there. You don't even need to touch that.

But yes, that movie documentary, absolutely insane. If you can appreciate just the human body taking to its absolute limit you will like that yeah it was pretty cool too when he fell off and died spoiler alert just it was so graphic the way they showed it over and over again it was a good show though you'll have to watch and find out if we were being honest there yeah uh so that's free solo The other one that I watched, have you seen this? Leaving Neverland. No, I want to, though. What is that on? HBO.

It is, okay. That's on HBO. That has been the thing is I wasn't even – I have Hulu right now, and I didn't see it on there. I think it's on HBO. It's a two-part series. I've heard a lot of people talking about that one. Have you read much about people's thoughts on the show or anything like that?

No, I've been pretty in in a bubble yeah so i'll just tell you my takeaway from like my personal opinion um because i this is a documentary so everyone knows this is coming from south dakota's um president of the michael jackson fan club. So take this opinion pretty seriously. So the documentary is from the eyes of a couple specific of the victims of Michael Jackson's abuse. So it is in the light painted by them, not in defense of Michael Jackson. So I would say it is probably biased yeah not definitely not unbiased but even with me knowing that that's the case watching it i definitely believe that michael jackson was a big time perverted sicko and i'm very convinced that

he was doing all the things that these people were saying that he was doing. And, like, to the point where, like, I knew, I mean, it's common knowledge. Everyone knows, like, Michael Jackson was probably doing something weird. It's like a big running joke with everyone that he's probably doing something with kids. It was the same thing with the R. Kelly thing. Yeah, right. Like, no one could really pin it on him, so they just made jokes about it. Right.

And now, like, after watching the documentary, I'm like i'm like oh like i don't know if people should be playing like michael jackson's music on the radio you know like that's to the point where i'm like and i don't know if that i'm not saying that that's the case or not but it's almost like i'm not sure if he should be celebrated for anything ever again see and that's what's so tough with all this yeah it's like like can and i don't this could be debates that go on for episodes and episodes and i don't know what the answer is there is like you have all of these like right now it seems to be musicians where you like their their artwork their songs whatever it is becomes such a part of like you're growing up your culture like your life experiences

and it's like whether they are or not let's just say we're not gonna say a specific person but yep that person did it and they are a shitty person like does that mean you shouldn't like their music anymore like how am i supposed to feel about that i don't know like just the other day uh just playing on spotify it's i'm probably gonna mess up the name i can't think of right now it right now. I think it's YNW Melly. And there's a song he called Murder on My Mind. And I'm like, you know what? I kind of find this song catchy. I find this song catchy. And he has a couple other songs. He had one with Kanye West, different personalities. I'm like, you know what? I find these songs catchy. It's kind of like this gargley mumble rap type thing but i found it catchy and then like right the day that i'm catching on like it's finally like clicking in my brain like

oh yeah he's been arrested on murder charges like oh of course the guy with the song murder on my mind talking about killing someone is arrested for killing two people yeah so should i still like that song i don't know right and then the whole r kelly thing too should i still like any of his songs i don't know yeah i just won't listen to him right i don't have to that song? I don't know. Right. And then the whole R. Kelly thing too. Should I still like any of his songs? I don't know. Maybe I just won't listen to them. Right. I don't have to make up my mind that I can just be indifferent. And do you just separate the music from the individual?

Even if you're like, yes, this person was a complete pervert, did terrible things. But do you just completely separate the music from that but then it's like ah does it morally feel right yeah if r killy did do all that stuff to like just be having the time of your life with a remix to ignition the background and being like this is how we capture the 13 year old girls like i don't know if that's right either right and that that's to the point especially fresh off fresh off of watching the documentary on michael jackson listening to what he would do to seven-year-old boys uh that are still obviously you know these guys are like a little bit older than us at this point now you

know they're like but just about 40 probably michael jackson if he was still alive would be 60 this year really that's it huh yeah damn i just assumed you would have been older at this point okay i and i didn't really know like when i heard that i was like remember where you were when you heard michael jackson died no i actually do remember where i was what it was 2009 i think yeah i think so i i may have actually been in kuwait is where i would have been at the time so i might have been yeah right i do i was working on a farm at the time i remember i was driving a payloader on the rate like the day was just getting done it might have happened before or like earlier in the day but i heard on the radio it was about five o'clock i was driving up and they're like breaking news michael jackson has died and i'm like

oh that's kind of crazy and it didn't really register much it was a big deal yeah i know like some of his music yeah because we're're almost a little bit too young to – when his music was most popular, we were not listening to music. We may have been alive, but – I think both of us probably had parents that knew his songs, but my parents weren't the world's biggest Michael Jacks. Right. Yeah, I remember hearing –

to me, where it really started to click was playing Grand Theft Auto Vice City. They had Billie Jean on one of the radio stations. And I'm like, oh, like, okay, this song's sort of catchy. And then I just remember, like, that's kind of sort of turned into more of my introduction to Michael Jackson is that, all right, Vice City,

Grand Theft Auto Vice City says this music's okay to listen to. Yeah. So this is what I need to start listening to. And that was, like, what almost probably introduced me introduced me to like all 80s music was that but yeah it is it is a good show worth watching um i do know some people you know the criticism of the show would be that it's really skewed in the one direction but i don't know after what listening to these guys talk if they're making it up they are amazing actors like i mean like they like i don't even know how you could cut like you just i just don't believe that that you could

make that much of a plot up in your head like i wouldn't be capable of it if i but i'm sure i mean i'm sure some people are but um i just very much believe that that was true after watching that I just very much believe that that was true after watching that. I don't doubt it. And to the things that he did where I am like, oh, that is a really, really, really sick dude. Yeah. But definitely worth watching. I think it's pretty popular right now, isn't it? Yeah, oh, yeah.

I've seen a lot of stuff echoed around online, just people saying it's crazy. One other thing, we don't have to go into the show, because you told me about it once. I finally watched Defiant Ones. Oh. And that's really good, isn't it? And I like Dr. Dre to begin with, and I just think, like, I just like his rap, and, like, I like his voice, and, you know, I like,

I've always liked his stuff way better than someone like Jay-Z. I just always really like Dr. Dre and his group. And he kind of is more of a behind-the-scenes guy too. Yes. That is a really cool show. And then my favorite part of it. So that is just, again, I just have to talk about it. The documentary is just edited so well you can tell they had a massive budget when they were doing it but where it gets so crazy for me is

that part where they're talking about like just how insane the 90s are getting and like interscope records how they're just letting people do whatever the hell they want yeah and it's like this mashup of like nine inch nails maryland manson like just all the rap guys, just everyone just going nuts. And it's all like this crazy montage. It's like, well, the world's going to end. And that part was really, really good. Yeah, like the convergence of the two. It's like, it'd be so complicated

to make this documentary. How do you even plan that out on paper? Yeah, because it's the convergence of two stories of two guys like leading to each other. Yeah, it's taking like this guy that was producing Fleetwood Mac or whatever in the 70s. Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty. And then all of a sudden how Dr. Dre, coming from Compton, mashes together.

And then now you sprinkle in Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson and just all these, what at the time were just absolute freak shows of music. And I think it starts to mix it. Does it even mix in some of the Columbine stuff in there too like yeah it's just it's just like taking like the human extremes basically is what it's doing and it's like just throwing all this stuff together and then the pinnacle is like how they you know the i mean part of the last episode is you know them creating how it led to beats and then selling that to Apple. The peak of the whole thing. Yeah, right. Like, I mean, them selling, creating something that they sold to Apple

for $3 billion, which is... Yeah, why not? Yeah. You know? Yeah. But, yeah, they were just really ahead of...

Yeah. Just the whole thing. It's like, oh, those guys were always two steps ahead of everyone. Right. And it's weird. I could throw, like,

Eminem in that same group well even that was crazy yeah because i don't i'm not like i'm probably a average eminem fan like i know all of his songs are on the radio i know most of his other stuff that's maybe doesn't get radio play that just plays everyone like he has so many songs that are in the gym all the time you know but just the whole thing of like oh yeah dr, Dr. Dre was just like, oh yeah, I was this kid from Detroit and I was working with like some funk sample from like the seventies and Eminem's just like, my name is. It's like, whoa. And Dr. Dre's like, oh yeah, he, he literally made that, that first part ofem was in the studio with Dr. Dre. Dre played the beat for what turned out to be My Name Is. And within, I think he said, six seconds, Eminem goes, my name is, my name is.

And he's like, hi, kids. And he starts going. And he's like, I just let him do his thing. He's like, really? Like, that is how that came about. And that's where I'm like, man, these guys are, at least on some level, like geniuses. Because normal people, you know, don't have that ability to – And then this is the other thing too is, okay, let's say those words are dumb.

I could come up with better words, whatever. Okay, maybe you can, but can you say them in a way that's catchy like that? And you can't like a way that captivates people and wants to keep them listening because he absolutely can do that. Those guys can just say words in a way that's fun to listen to yeah or like easy e how dr dray like easy e didn't rap whatsoever and dr gray basically just had to teach him uh-huh and like had to like direct him on every line of everything he did to like get him to do it the way he did it and make the product that they did uh if you don't like rap you probably you know like that 90s rap stuff you might not like the

show that much but i really you still got to appreciate like what's going on because again those guys are on like a whole nother level yeah i really liked it because i just really like that era of uh music like in general so i really like and it is like a lot of stuff was happening for the first time yeah you know and just like when i compare that all the artists that were doing their thing then to what it you know like whatever what rap is now i just like that so much better like i just like really like all of those artists more of an old school yeah yeah that's true but i i don't blame you i listen to you know rap and hip-hop and things now and it's really weird it's really really weird yeah it's a weird time to be a hip hop fan because it just is. Yeah.

Anything's cool, I guess now. And it's so much different. It is so much different. I mean, at its core, you could say it's sort of the same, but again,

it's so much different. Yeah. Like, yeah. And that again could be a whole other thing on its own, but we don't need to get that far into it. I'm trying to think of other exciting things that have happened since the last podcast we've had.

I did tell you about this a little bit the other day, but I fell the other day, Tanner. With 1,000 pounds on your back. Your spotter tried to help you up, and you said, get the fuck away from me. I said, get away. And then I didn't go to the doctor. You know, I just sat on my couch for a few days and it healed itself but no um you slept hot like because of the arctic tundra we live in i haven't like fell on the ice like in

years like years it's been so long since i've fallen down in the winter time and the other day i woke up and we had just this very slight dusting. I was like, oh, I can go walk. And I'm literally across the street from my house on a sidewalk that's always cleaned off perfectly. I'm with the dog. The dog's walking. The dog falls.

That doesn't make any sense. The dog never falls. He's got four legs. Yeah, he's got four. Yeah, exactly. It's like it registers just long enough for me to see him fall, and I am on my back. And I didn't just fall on my back.

I fell, you know, like the stretch. I don't even know what you call it where you're on the ground, sitting on the ground. You have one leg out in front of you, and the other leg, like the knee is kind of like, it's like a hurdler position where your knee is kind of tucked under you. And it's sort of like the position you'd be in if you're going to be going over a hurdle. I felt like that, but my back landed back on my knee. So I kind of almost did the splits and immediately I'm thinking I'm in trouble. I blew out my knee. Like this is bad. And, uh, I laid there and rolled around for a little while trying to like evaluate how much trouble I'm in. Um, I got up, my knee was in severe pain.

So I start limping back to my house because I made it across the street. And now when I'm limping, the dog thinks, oh, this guy wants to play with me. So he's trying to like jump on me. Again, like trying to knock me over. I'm like, no, no, no, stop, stop. And I got inside and by the time I got inside

and took my shoe off, I realized like, I pretty much rolled my ankle too while I fell because that was trapped under me. And got in, laid down for a few hours, took it easy, and I was pretty tender the rest of the day. But that was St. Patrick's Day, so I did – I was able to go out and drink a lot that night. Medicated with green beer. Yeah, I think it, like, thinned my blood enough to where it uh really facilitated the recovery process like it was like a hyper recovery so how is it now um it feels much better now like when i go into a full deep squat i do notice it in my knee a little bit but it doesn't have that same like it was like

hyper extended a little bit or something maybe yeah but even the next day when i woke up i thought oof this still there's still something there yeah do you know what the leading cause of uh workplace accidents and lost time in the workplaces is it falling slips trips and falls i wouldn't doubt it for even a second right behind carpal tunnel syndrome though right i think it's is slips trips and falls all but carpal tunnel is probably it's like that episode of the office where michael's like, the office workers do dangerous stuff too. Yeah, like they're competing with the warehouse guys. Yeah, they have the baler and the forklift and everything. Michael, do we run the forklift?

I can and I will. The Office. So you are on the road to recovery. I am on the road to recovery. I could come back stronger than ever if some things go right here so speaking of uh hurt knees too i don't know if you the next one of the next big lifting thing that's coming up is the u.s open that you know the kern open you know that now that we're beyond the arnold that would be one of the next big

lifting events that we have our eye on and is that like mid-april um i think it's about 10 weeks away or something oh 10 weeks okay i think it must be may may okay i can't keep track of when all this stuff is not sure um but anyways one of the big lifters one of the super heavyweights looking to put up the biggest total would be brandon allen and that did you see what happened to him yes i did he uh um was squatting 900 and some pounds and he tore his uh quad tendon i think detached maybe yes so he won't be competing and i just as i watched that i was like oh man that sucks a because you know he's getting to the point where he's getting close to a 2500 pound total-pound total. He was getting close to being a 1,000-pound squat, 900-pound deadlift in a meet, all these things.

And I was just reflecting on it that it just seems so common. That's the limiting factor of those guys that are in the – It's a body-staining tactic. The guys that are strong enough to be able to move those kinds of weights, it seems to be so hard for them to stay healthy enough for long enough to do it. Then the more you look at it, it's just like the body really is not made for that type of weight. Yeah, people can do it, but maybe, I don't know, is Malanichev the one guy that you could say has, like in modern times,

that has made a career out of kind of doing that? Yeah. And even now it's starting to not be his thing either, which, okay, yes, that's got to happen sometime. It just aged purely alone, yeah. But outside of him. It's shocking that Ray Williams has really done as much as he has injury-free. And he's not that young either. I think he's probably in his low 30s, isn't he?

He's not like 25 or something like that. Yeah, we can get an exact. But that's just what I was thinking about is how that, when those guys get to that level of all-time. Well, according to this, Ray Williams is about 32. Okay, so yeah, I don't consider that super young as a power lifter. I mean, he's maybe right in his prime area, but probably purely from age would be on the downswing eventually.

There's something about being in that super heavyweight, like 308 area, that longevity is really, really hard to come by. And I don't blame these guys. Like that's just, it is such an extreme amount of stuff that you're doing. Because like Brandon Allen, for a perfect example, I believe he has the potential to get strong enough to be, break the all-time world record total. But the limiting factor, just like in this case, is this injury.

Now, how many months is it going to take till he is able to really lift again then how many months does it take to get as strong as he was right now again yep and then how many more months to be able to push back that and hope over all all that that he doesn't get hurt again with something else exactly or that the injury just doesn't allow him to even allows him to come back you know back to a hundred percent or more and not even like i don't it sure doesn't appear that he was doing anything wrong you know he wasn't squatting incorrectly you know i don't think anyone would say that at that point it's just there's something about 900 pounds yeah for reps and volume like that's or the deadlift at the arnold you know everyone getting uh the alpha

bar deadlift 900 to a thousand yeah i mean it's when you get that strong there's that much stress on the body it's it it the probability for injury gets so high but it does and that's just that's the most frustrating part about the whole thing is yeah and that's you know we always talk about it whenever we do like a meat preview it's like all right you know big dogs is coming up i think depending on who actually makes ready at least one of these eight guys we're going to list are going to get hurt before the meet. And during the meet, at least one, probably two more will get hurt during the meet. Yeah. And it's just kind of not avoidable at this point.

I guess you could make 50% of the guys that finish out the full thing. That was like really. That was about. Yeah. About par for the course there. Yeah. And then it's like, well, what's the end? Like, I end like i don't know is this where you say well that's where single ply multi-ply is the answer here like does that yeah does that alleviate these issues that's what a

probably a single uh multi-ply guy would that would probably be something they would come come at with on that that you know that would be a justification for it even there i don't quad tendon i don't know if a quad tendon like yeah i suppose you squat differently and multiply you sit back yeah yeah maybe there's less uh uh but that's how do you distribute into the suit a little more like so it's not so much on that quad tendon but that's really you can't really say that either way though you know i mean you don't know but i believe that that's you could you could make that argument yeah just there's some something about 900 pounds that the body just doesn't naturally want to work with but on that note we didn't i didn't have this

officially listed in our big lift segment but the one big lift uh that i thought i was worth covering, Pro Raw in Australia. Went this last week. And Dylan Hellregal, he lifted at Big Dogs, actually, here this last year, too. And he was the first, what Brandon was going for, to be the first person ever to squat 1,000 and deadlift 900 in a meet, and he did it. Yeah, which is. He did it as a junior.

Yeah, he's like 23. 23 yeah so he broke like eric little bridge's all-time junior total record and it was a plethora of things that he was like the first person due at this age and the first 1900 and all all that but um i think that's interesting i don't think your average casual uh powerlifting fan would have been like that's the first guy that's gonna oh yeah squat a thousand why would you think that yeah why that this guy one of first of all that he's 23 yeah i think it said he's been competing in powerlifting for two years like i didn't know him prior to big dogs no and i remember like we definitely said his name talking about it but in big dog because it's australia there's

names you don't routinely hear right especially being part of an american audience like some of these guys just kind of you don't really register them on the radar and right um now you definitely know yeah and it's again that's one of those guys though it's if he stays healthy for two or three years he should be yeah it's gonna why would you think he's not going to be putting up the biggest total of all time? Especially at the age that he's at. Why is that crazy to think that at 23 already having – I mean, his total has got to be in the top 15 of all time. Oh, yeah. I think it was.

I think it was somewhere around that. Or was it 12? Yeah, maybe somewhere in there. It's not unreasonable to think that if he stays healthy he will have the biggest total yeah well i think eric lillibridge at the when he was at that age and set the highest mark for a junior i think everyone would have thought man this guy is going to obliterate you know he's going to get those all-time biggest total numbers eventually like he can still get bigger he can put on more weight he's only gonna get stronger but now you know years have gone by and he still hasn't uh you know it's been a while since he's set a new

total record for himself and a lot of that is injury related i would say you know he's got whether it's severe or more moderate or nagging like there's things that are holding him back from from getting to that point and when he was younger younger, you would have looked at him and been like, there's no way this guy isn't going to hit those numbers. Even basically you don't want to say linear progress, but if he can just put 20 pounds total a year for the next five years, that's another a hundred pounds right there. And like, you know, I don't know. It's just, yeah.

That is where it gets so hard with this stuff though, is it's the injury thing. Yeah. Just the staying healthy thing. And you've got to ease off for six months to let something recover. And then during that six months, you know, during the recovery process, things aren't necessarily getting stronger weight-wise. Right. It's just time.

Time turns into the enemy there. Yep. Yep. Yep. That was just my takeaway on Brandon Allen getting hurt, though. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah. It does kind of suck for getting hurt, though. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah. It does kind of suck for the U.S. Open, though, too.

Especially when you have one of the – what you kind of want to bill as one of your biggest names. Yeah, right. It's like, can you imagine, like – If Yuri Belkin gets hurt. There's probably going to be one more big name that will get hurt. I think it said it's uh i already changed the page but yeah whatever it is a month two months away you know um it's probably a safe bet to assume

one of the other big names is going to get hurt in that process for the competitors is probably great because you have a better shot it's a big money now big yes i mean you might want to say like i want tougher competition but also i'm to get some bags out of this one. Back up the Brinks truck. That's right. Taking home some bags. We mentioned it before, too, as long as we're talking about meets, but Massanomics is an official sponsor of a USPA meet that's coming up here in our home state in June 1st. Yes.

Massanomics is billed as an official sponsor of that event now though. Will that be our first? We've had some minor. We've contributed for events and stuff before but I'd say this is our first more official kind of like one of the

marquee sponsors for the event. So that's kind of cool. Yeah, it's really good to do that and it'd be in our home state definitely i mean it might only be like six hours away six hours away but it might only be a meet that's like 300 and some miles away but it's still in our home state yeah it'll be cool i am hoping to lift in that if you know yeah i just go correctly i'm going i want to compete in that meet as well just the way my training's going it's probably a safe assumption that i will not be but i do think there could be several massonomics guys that will yeah it would be a really fun one to go to yeah i think there's

a lot of we have a lot of there's a lot of interest in the you it being a uspa meet means something around here yeah and it's something different too kind of a little bit of a different rule set you know if you want to have wraps and that whole thing yes and and deadlift bar you know it's a big thing like that that's something i definitely like because i know that i can do better on a deadlift bar and i won't and and the fact that they also do have a specific knee sleeve division because we've got a lot of the guys at the gym that like knee sleeves so and and that it's still walked out, versus some of the other federations where they're wraps and out of monolift, and the USPA just fits a little bit more in line with a lot of the USAPL stuff

that we're all used to. So that's cool. Yeah, and it should be around a nicer time of the year, so you don't have to worry about you potentially doing a meet this past weekend, but just the weather was like, nope. We literally couldn't have got there. I mean, we maybe could have. But you literally would have been risking a family. If something would have happened, people would be like, well, why is Tanner such a dumbass bringing his family 300 miles through roads that are actually closed?

To go do powerlifting meet. Not only is he irresponsible, he is a terrible father. And also, he didn't even do that good at the powerlifting meet. So yeah, you don't want that on your conscience. But in June, you shouldn't have that issue. That's true. Knock on plastic well what else do we got should we just shut it down early this week just we've done enough

we gotta use it we can't do that to these guys they've waited so long we do have some seg some of our most favorite segments are do we can do you think we got do we got time for a little 36 minutes right now that's it we got some good podcast reviews and stuff, too, so it's probably all right to get to a couple of these things here. So we should shut it down or we shouldn't? We better not. Okay. Oh, I marked this.

I'm glad I just saw this. The Lyft shirt at our local Goodwill. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe I briefed you on the story a little bit before a little bit of an idea of what was going on here on top of getting sent a message of what the hell yeah someone uh someone locally sent me a message a dm it was a picture of a lift shirt at our goodwill in the for sale in the clothing rack for two dollars and And I was like, what the F is going on here? Why is that at Goodwill?

I never really got to the bottom of where it came from. I would like to know because I would have some strong words for that person that gave it away to Goodwill. So the next day I was like, I'm going to go get that shirt. $2 is less than what we pay. I was like that'd be the cheapest lift shirt we've ever i recognize the deal when i see one we've bought we've bought thousands of lift shirts before but never bought one for two dollars like that's uh i'd love to

get two dollar lift yeah i know i think they said it was a 2x so uh my son and i went in there and we turned the place upside down said all right, all right, people, listen up. Yeah, could not find it. Find the lift shirt, and no one gets hurt. My wife was like, why are we going to get this? I'm like, I just want to bring it back home. It's like Toy Story. Yeah, it was kind of like that. Someone gave away Woody, and you got to go rescue him.

I don't want it to go to a bad home and be abused and not treated correctly and never get to be lifted in again. But someone saw it. It was gone. Someone saw something that looked interesting. Less than a day later, it was already gone. Which I guess means something that in a Goodwill store. I'm curious if the person realized that it wasn't a Miller Lite shirt.

Someone could also get home and be like, what the hell? Yeah. Lift? That shirt is not what I wanted. And it could just go in like a burn barrel yeah yeah or it could go back to goodwill you never know but the interesting thing there is it is it is a 2x yeah locally which i think it's safe to assume that if it was someone that lifted that got rid of it we would probably know who that is i think so so the the best guess

to what actually happened is that someone bought one while we did the Strongman. Yeah, that we couldn't track. Either the 2018 or the 2017 Strongman. Someone bought a – what I want to picture is some guy was like, man, these dudes are pretty cool. They're out there. I need to go support them. 2X lift shirt? Yeah, I'll do that.

All right. Here's $25. I'll take a 2X lift shirt. And then his wife was like, what did you buy? What did you buy shirt? Yeah, I'll do that. All right. Here's $25. I'll take a 2X lift shirt. And then his wife was like, what did you buy? What did you buy today? Yeah. She's like, how much did you spend on that? He's like, $25.

You spent $25 on this t-shirt? Come on. You're never going to wear that. Yeah. And then she was just like on him about it. And then he's like, okay. And then one day she went through, saw it in his clothing pile, was like, no, this is going. I'm never letting you

wear this you know she threw it out and then it made it to good i believe that um i i like to picture now that it did find a really good home though i like to think of it that way that it someone got a really good deal too if anyone does know anything about the whereabouts of that 2x lift shirt i we would pay good money to to the story on that. Or even just submit your favorite story of what you think could have happened. Some fan fiction. Yeah, just tell me what you think could have happened or is happening to that lift shirt right now. I'd like to know. I was a little disappointed when it was gone already, and I was like, how can that be?

How could it be gone right now? It kind of hurts a little bit. Yeah. Okay. What do you think about best instagram slash youtube comment of the week well okay already to me normally this segment is like okay yep there was probably a couple answers there but in the amount of time we've covered there's this could have been an entire episode is the best comment of the week right i just had to

pick one and this isn't super current because we you know i picked this one out a while ago and i i knew it was a good one this was on uh the post of it was our post of iceland's strongest best strongman of all time it was uh uh who actual actual people from iceland john paul then you had to swipe across them it was john paul then magnus for magnuson then half thor and then the last one was larry wheels that was the joke a lot of people didn't know that that was the joke they really did it you know i mean our followers knew that that was the joke but people that are somehow randomly coming across this post yeah and anyways there there

was a i could pick out about 20 comments and that would apply to this but there was this one guy that that uh his comment was this was a comment after some comments back and forth and he goes i don't think it's correct when sarcasm is used in a humorous manner. Yeah. That seems to be how you operate. And I saw that and I'm like, what the hell is comedy? Yeah. You could almost make the stretch that comedy is, you're always laughing at something's expense in some way.

Like it might be an inanimate object, but you're laughing at something's expense. And he says, I don't think it's correct when you use sarcasm in that way and then also as a humorous manner now he doesn't think that's correct yeah like like what so do we does someone literally like if that is your worldview does like you literally think like the world has to like conform to what your definition of funny is right and like already that makes no goddamn sense that's not possible and the second sentence that seems to be how you operate the reason for that is because

he made a stupid comment to begin with i don't remember what it was and i think my favorite way to it's to just be dumb yeah like like i i don't want to get in the argument we're going into the finer points of saying larry wheels was one of ic best strongmen. So already the point is kind of moot. Right, right. It's fun. Then I like to do a stupid comment in return, in which turn a lot of our followers like it and will feed off of it. I get such a big kick out of that, like the other comments that come in to police it off.

You're kind of being a double agent here. He goes, that seems to be how you operate. And I want to be like yes that's like look at any of our stuff that's how this whole fucking thing operates like that is what we're doing you are correct it's also how a lot of pages on instagram work like yes it's like yes we're trying to be funny uh like we kind of think some of it's funny. Some people kind of think it's funny. Yeah. It's at the point where a decent number of people do find humor in it. Yes. I just thought that that was ridiculous.

Like being called out for the. For someone not liking your brand of humor. Right. When it's not really like particularly offensive even. It's just. It's just ridiculous. It's like. And that does not fly.

Yeah. We only tell jokes rooted 100% in factuality from now on. I guess. But actually, you did just make me think of something. So explaining to the listeners here, when we were on the road to the Arnold, we went and ate. We'd been on the road for a good 14 hours. We were weary travelers at this point.

We need something to fuel us. So we went and ate at a Chili's cause it was right across the street from our hotel. And I think I kind of brought up, I kind of brought up a joke to Tanner, like, Oh, this reminds me of this Instagram account. And he's like,

I have no idea what you're talking about. And I'm like, Oh, it's called middle-class fancy. Like you should look at, and then I just showed him like one, I think it was like the first Chili's one. And he's like,

that's pretty funny. And that was about it. And then we went back to the hotel and I'm talking to my wife on the phone. And I probably talked to her for 20 minutes or so. And in the bed, in the bed, the other bed next to me, all I hear is for like 20 straight minutes.

I'm like, Tanner, what was going on over there? Oh, this account is the best thing I've ever found. Oh, I love it so much. So one, if you're not following Middle Class Fancy, you should probably follow that account and look at it. And if you're anything like either one of us, if you're anything like Tanner, it might be your new favorite thing. Oh, Middle Class F fancy is my favorite i follow it 99 only lifting related things middle class fancy and like a couple other

things have slid in there middle class fancy is the funniest thing in the world to me yeah like to me personally it is so fun every single thing is so funny to me it's almost like i think it's probably funnier too i might be just over generalizing here but i think if you're from the midwest maybe it hits home a little better too where it's just so many of the things are about like i don't know i just think someone in a big city like probably doesn't have the whole thing to relate about like yard work yeah just right all the new balances yeah dad's in jorts on the weekend. All the dad stuff is just – it is either one of two things. Either it reminds me so much of my own father that I can laugh at it and or so much of me and the way I've become.

Yeah, where I'm like, ah, that is – I was laughing out loud at – I frequently laugh out loud at all their posts because it just hits so close to home. When you were saying the other day, you're like, it's not vacation until dad says fuck under his breath like 10 times. Until dad loses his wallet and calls everyone a cocksucker under his breath. And I'm like, that exact, almost near exact thing has happened to me. I guarantee it. And that's like, what I would do is under my breath mumble cocksucker. It's like, God damn it.

It's everyone else's fault. Start blaming everyone else for losing. Stupid vacations. And then you're just mad that you even went on a vacation. And the other one that was really funny at the time, too. And part of it is because we were so tired. And when you're tired, funny is just amplified 100%. But it was like the one that's like too. And part of it was because we were so tired. Yeah, that is part of it. Funny is just amplified 100%. But it was like, the one that's like me, and it's just H, and then it says, Dad, you checking the oil in that car?

It's like, man, that is such. Yeah, it was like a phone call to your dad, and you couldn't even say hello. Yeah, you have one letter in. Have you been checking the oil in that car? It's like, oh, that's so true. It is. Yeah. It's such a dad thing yeah it 100 is

oh it is so funny i mean and i really like they another they have like these recurring themes on there and one of them is like they only like light beards you know bud light uh and they call them crispy boys yep crispy boys and that's become nomenclature in our house now too like like i got my wife on middle Class Fantasy, too. She likes it a lot, too, yeah, because it's also relatable for her, too. And it really is like, you know, like middle class white people. It all really applies in one way or another to like middle class white people. If you're outside of that demographic, you'd probably look at it and be like, well, this is dumb.

Yeah, this is not funny at all. But's like uh but the crispy boy things i really like like it kind of makes fun of uh um ipas yes i like the craft beer drinker ones all the time yeah and it's like quick this man's are there's no cpr this man's dying craft beer drinker have you tried this beer there's extra hops in it and things like that it's like it's like they all don't freaking like and that's what i think is one of the funniest things is like i i will i will drink like anything beer wise i do not care like it could be a crispy boy it could be a crispy boy you sit down a 30 pack of keystone in front of me bush light whatever even people like oh keystone no bush light whatever we got that a lot of the Arnold like oh what that garbage I'm like yeah the ad stone or have you had either one because they're the same thing yeah don't try to like bring your highbrow taste into the equation like

they're the same shitty light beer and when I say shitty light beer I mean I will gladly take a third yeah lack of them and have a great time like I have no problem with that but also like okay we got like a 14 beer that's some barrel aged whiskey cask something yeah i'll totally drink that too like i don't care i will drink that beer but um just the i love the ones where it's like people being elitist about their beer it's like yeah yeah okay it's a liquid with alcohol yeah why are we trying to be cool about this here yes so i love those ones that like get on the craft beer drinkers yeah they have that nailed perfectly i would say or i think they had the one today it was like it showed a cartoon of like a picture or like a row of like 20 urinals and there's one guy in the

end and it just shows a cartoon of the one coming all the way over stands right next to him he goes do you like craft beer yes okay how about some podcast reviews oh yeah let's do it we got some good ones here since we built up a little time this is uh we got a few good ones here title of this one you get it or you don't five out of five stars and this is from waffle iron jim i'm not sure of his name but he's a frequent uh commenter on instagram too he follows us pretty closely. He says, the Massonomics podcast is something you love or you probably don't lift. It's the podcast equivalent of Will Ferrell

and John C. Reilly. They are trying to sell you merchandise throughout the show. Everyone knows the money is in the merchandising and I hope Elon Musk teams up for Massonomics, the flamethrower for Massonomics because I'm sure the kids will love it until that day comes keep investing in this free podcast and the overpriced lift shorts hope

this review helps ah that did help that helps that helped me a lot i feel better i feel relieved right now i'm not sure from what but yeah that's that's good yeah and it did help i know for sure it helped our numbers go up by one in the review section on Apple Podcasts. I mean, can you really put a number on that? No. I mean, outside of like 117 or whatever it's at. No, not really. Yeah.

Outside of that, it's priceless. Okay. Five out of five stars. Title, could be worse. Can't argue with that already. This is from. Real straight shooter. marshall buckler buechler buckler uh five out of five stars let's be honest you can't set your expectations too

high for a podcast based in south dakota despite living in the middle of nowhere the massonomics podcast delivers entertaining and relevant content about various strength sports be aware be aware however that they will try to sell you merchandise that they simply slap one of their logos on and at quite the markup too whether it's shirts hats or their ludicrously extravagant shorts you'd be better off sticking with the plain ones he really nailed it with the last line there too sticking with the plane that's a good closer on that one yeah nah i'm good with the plane ones okay here we go five out of five stars from dollar sign dollar sign slash a lot of symbols here the title anonymous yeah the title the jefferson deadlift of podcasts wow yeah very rare yeah

very topical current up to date on his massonomics. Yeah, this guy's an honor. Yeah. This podcast has an excellent balance of Larry Wheels updates, lift shorts promotions, and intriguing segments. My personal favorite, of course, being underrated, overrated, even though I'm still a little shaky on the rules. Five stars.

Again, that is why we have to cover them every, like, you know, we think we got them down, but it would be a disservice to skip those so luckily if you're listening to this episode we're gonna get to that those rules so if you're that person that has a super human brain that just remembers rules every week just bear with the rest of us yes okay last one here uh five out of five stars from Harrison Jones, Ph.D. Harrison Jones, Ph.D. Sounds pretty smart. Yeah. Very distinguished.

I'm obviously not very smart. It took me a while to get to the bottom of that. Title is Strength Expression. Remember how Seinfeld was described as the show about nothing? Well, Masonomics is kind of like the strength podcast about nothing. If you're looking for hard-hitting, data-driven content about the science of strength development and expression, you may want to look elsewhere.

But if you're looking to listen in while some buddies chat about lifting while having a good time and cracking some jokes, check it out. Getting better all the time, like fine wine. Great merchandise, too. Very good review. Thank you for that i really like the seinfeld reference i do too man i don't know if anyone's actually pinned it as good as that guy has right there it is we are kind of the strength about nothing it took

100 and some reviews but i think that guy did it yeah all of a sudden i got the concept for the show it's kind of about nothing it's a strength podcast about nothing just like that had like a zen moment yeah i can just relax it worked for seinfeld yeah and they made like 100 episodes yeah so i guess we're we've run our course i guess yeah let's pack it in um all right speaking of underrated or over underrated overrated uh should we do that let's do it it's been a while it's been a really really long time in the world of underrated overrated uh should we do that let's do it it's been a while it's been a really really long time in the world of underrated overrated and since it's been a while and considering uh you know the confusion that that last podcast reviewer had i think it would only be appropriate to start off with the rules yes he only proved our point that the rules are not easy to wrap your head around

okay so the rules of underrated overrated they're lightning round questions some are pop culture but we also mix in some lifting related topics the probably the most important caveat to that it's like i said the questions are uh lightning round it's the answers that aren't necessarily necessarily lightning round tommy has his choice of responding either as quickly or with as much length as he would like it's really up to you that puts a lot of pressure on you but those are the rules so i mean we follow them i'm kind of perform under the pressure i've grown used to this yeah those are the rules of underrated overrated and here are the topics number one underrated or overrated facebook marketplace Facebook Marketplace. Wow.

I'm going to say incredibly overrated. Have you ever clicked on it? On the actual marketplace? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Like for buy, sell, and trade. But not even like a group where people. No, it's like a thing at the bottom. Yes, yes.

Okay, I didn't know if you're like combining things together. No, it's one of the. Oh, I didn't know people actually use that. Yeah. If you go to our hometown, there's people on there selling stuff. See, I know that there's groups. There are – and probably every city has this. I think these overtook the groups a little bit, though.

Did they really? I think someone that's into these groups would know better, but I think it's almost like some of these groups filter to Facebook marketplace. Like I think Facebook recognized that these groups were becoming very big. Yeah. And they like wanted to be like, Hey, we want that.

So does, do they try to take a cut of it or anything? I don't think so. And I don't know. And I don't understand. Yeah. I'd say it's over. Yeah.

I know. And also like the group, I never was really in a part of the groups, I know, but they would have strict rules to the groups. There's like moderators in there almost. It's like Hitler's in charge of this group, where if you don't respond with the correct responses, you get kicked out of the group.

It's like the soup Nazi on Seinfeld, where it's like if you don't do it correctly, no soup for you. No used clothes for you. That's all it is too. No shitty old clothes for you. It's overrated. Yeah, it's overrated. Facebook in general is overrated.

Maybe we talked about this last time, but I think even if we did, it's worth bringing up next topic. Underrated or overrated? The Bang Energy dudes at the Arnold. So overrated. Well, I think we did mention this, that I don't drink Bang. I don't have a problem with it. I think it tasted fine. And if you need caffeine, I mean, they definitely deliver caffeine in a can.

And last year, we're like, wow, Bang really had a presence at the Arnold. Like, okay, that company's on the up and up. And then this year, they added in the Bang dudes. And I'm like, ah, those guys are so obnoxious. Like, just leave it at just – let it just be the girls. I'm not saying you can't have guys, but make the guys, like, not so obnoxious. Like – Yeah.

So, yeah. Overrated. Bang guys are very overrated. Underrated or overrated? The Instagram slash Facebook crash of 2019. Ooh, wow. Really? It's probably overrated?

Yeah. It's very overrated. But it is, this is more what's shocking to me is Facebook is worth how many billions? When you say, you know, Facebook is Instagram. Yeah. It's worth how many billions they have? I don't know. Do they have 10,000, like, programmers, data engineers, like, engineers in general, like, server architect people?

Like, and you have something like this happen? Like, that doesn't even seem possible for what you essentially is a company with unlimited resources yeah to like go down right that's just that's what's so mind-blowing about it i mean it should be like if google stopped working oh yeah and that would or if amazon it really doesn't seem that different and um you really want to think like it probably gets more into like the paranoia territory but you really want to think that there was something more at stake there and they're not saying it. That's what I, I mean, I haven't really read anything about it. Well, but Facebook, they are really straight shooters, so they would tell you the truth.

But that's my, that's like my first thing is like, what were they changing that they need to mask it with this thing? And then now, like, some enormous algorithm change or something like that they just completely overhauled something yeah the point where it like literally had to be shut down for this massive overhaul to take place like don't you think that that's like the case it would be so crazy for that not yeah and for them just be like oh sorry the server went down for a little bit yeah no i don't think that's how this works with you. I meant to check. I was curious to check what the Facebook stock, it's publicly traded. I was curious what the stock price did that day and the next day.

I bet it took a hit. It had to have. I don't know how significant it was or wasn't. I'm sure it probably rebounded already that time. Yeah, I bet it did too. But if you were on it, you could probably have flipped a quick. I would say if you're a business that relies heavily on Facebook or Instagram, that one day could cost you a shitload of money.

Yes. Because a lot of people, that is their primary advertising. Even us, for people that are numbers in the scheme of moving product, is still nothing. But we kind of noticed it a little yeah i mean it's like that instagram is a huge one of our resources that outside of this that's kind of the way we communicate with people and to just say like oh communication is not allowed today right it's like okay well you're out of sight you're out of mind you don't really exist to people right that's kind

of where it proved that. It's kind of advertising. When you say advertising, it's posts. Yeah. Posts do matter. That's also for, I don't look at it for individuals. For individuals, I almost think it's just this addiction thing. Oh, yeah. 100%.

It's like, should almost go away. Actually, that day, until the end of the day, I thought, God, I am getting on the shittiest Wi-Fi networks all day today. I had just kind of changed some stuff with my phone a couple days before that. Changed my plan, and I'm like,

ah, my plan's just getting adjusted to the new. Something's going on here. Verizon's screwing me over. And I was like, oh, go on with my day. And it never even dawned on me until. This also emphasizes the fact of even someone like us, even being relatively small in the grand scheme of things, like how much we have to rely on Instagram.

And if they did just all of a sudden we're like, yeah, Instagram isn't going to, you know, they wouldn't just take it away. But, you know, if there was this huge change that, you know, just completely changed what it was, we'd kind of be like, oh, well, we kind of needed that. Yeah. Everyone tell your friends to sign up for email. We email you something every day. It's not realistic to say that it's going to go away, but, you know, there could be some changes that could affect that.

Yeah. So the outage is, I mean, in general, it's an underrated or it's way overrated. But the fact that Facebook is definitely doing something behind the scenes, it's incredibly underrated. Because there's for sure something going on with those evil, nasty people. And I say that kind of jokingly, but I'm being pretty serious when I say that. They're literally the worst. Last one here for today, underrated or overrated. Bubbly, sparkling water i am is it boobly or bubbly it's i don't know and i yeah i and you know when i know exactly what it is and i just feel like nope i can't support that yeah they don't go with

my values right of being a massonomics person. Exactly. That that is the competitor. So that is our stance, our hard stance on that is that we're LaCroix drinkers. It might be 25 to 50 cents cheaper. Not acceptable. No. You're drinking LaCroix to make a statement, not to save somebody. I'm almost relieved to hear you say that, though, too. Yep. As far as I'm concerned, LaCroix should sue them and come at them with everything they got.

Yes. Put that business out. There's not enough room for two people. Is there any other competitors in the field? Well, you could make the argument that any mineral water or anything like that, but I'm not going to say they're not even in the same league. Like sparkling Canadian club soda or something like that. Yeah.

Perrier, something like that. No, I'm not. Bubbly and all their flashy colors. Yeah, trying to put their cans in the same section of the grocery store. Get out of here with that. I don't like it. Yeah. I don't like what I'm seeing.

If you're a real Massanomics fan, you know the stance on this. Going to have to do that. We accept no imitators. Going to have to do that in the Instagram poll. LaCroix versus Bubbly. Yeah. And then delete and permanently block everyone that votes for Bubbly. Really easy way to weed out that. I did have one in there of what is the correct spelling of gray.

E-Y or A-Y? I've always... Okay, this is... I'm in the graphic design field. Yeah, yeah. Something I have to type out occasionally is the color gray. Yeah. And I remember one day typing it out and being like, that looks wrong.

And I typed it again. I think I did either one. I had one with an EY. Like, why does that look wrong? I typed it with an AY. I'm like, yeah, it's better. Like, wait, is it? Yeah.

And this was a couple of years ago. And I'm thinking, how did I get to the point where I'm in my late 20s and this is just actually crossing my mind? And so I Googled it right there on the spot because we got to know the answer. And the first article I clicked on, I believe what that article said was EY is more of a British spelling. Yep. AY is an American spelling. That's what people say. Just remember America, A-G-R-A-Y.

It's the American version. Just remember, America, A-G-R-A-Y. It's the American version. So I just, since that time, for like three years now, I've used A-Y. But I feel like everyone else that I interact with uses E-Y. Well, people say that American usually uses A-Y, but this poll has a perfect example. 60% of the people said E-Y. Oh, it did end up being that? I think when I voted, it was like 49-51.

And I'm like, oh, okay, it's rated. 60% said E- and i because i'm the same way i always thought well ay that's how i know that's how i learned it in school uh-huh is that ay and i'm very more people said ey then i it'd be very interesting to know okay do you how does gray's anatomy spell it do you know i don't know for sure but uh what what does gray's anatomy mean like what? Do you know? I don't know for sure. What does Grey's Anatomy mean? Like, what is Grey? I don't know. I don't watch those freaking shows. Is that a person's name, though?

I think it's a person's show. Okay, Grey's Anatomy does it with an E-Y. Okay. So that's a ton of exposure. But is Grey a person? It's a positive, yes. So I'm assuming. Yeah.

I've never heard anyone say Dr. Grey or anything, though, so I literally do not know. The other one, Fifty Shades of of gray also uses ey really there are two big things in pop culture that use the word gray and they both use see even just looking at ey right now that does not look right to me yeah i think in that it's a person's name though isn't it oh okay i don't see there again i also don't know yeah i'm just trying to look for i'm just trying to look for colors now how do you spell red is there a silent p in that or not in america use an a yeah british spelling is e rad it's like did you ever do you ever remember that one it was i think it was on tosh point a long time ago he's like my mom is dad and he keeps saying he's trying

to say dead but he says dad uh and it like makes no sense yeah it's the same thing first yeah okay one more gray goose which way is that on computer gray goose gray goose ey but that's vodka so that doesn't count yeah that's probably that's uh produced in france it's foreign so it should be ey and theirs is an e with like a little funny line over that probably yeah it probably has some squiggly line that's probably some squiggly and some other. There's probably a silent law in there somewhere that we don't know about. Yeah. La Grey Goose. La Grey. Yep. Well, that's underrated and overrated.

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Some stuff we've never done before at all. Things we've literally never done. Like, yeah, there's some fun stuff coming. done before at all things we've literally never done like yeah there's some fun stuff coming yeah i'm i'm pretty excited about it legitimately like i'm super super pumped to get all this stuff like some of it i just even want for myself you know like uh i think it's going to be pretty cool and if i said it before if you're a fan of what we've done in the past you're probably going to be a fan of the way that this new stuff is yep um so that's coming otherwise you can check out all of our current merchandise that's on the store all of our i'm wearing the the buddy light shirt right now you got bench life or a bench heavy shirt huge life shirt lift shirt uh all

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I noticed there was some more people commenting now to like get in on that too yeah so there's a fun competition going on there uh like us on facebook and we of course have our instagram handles but yeah most importantly instagram though yeah that's where the meat and potatoes i i my personal instagram account which is incredibly boring has been seeing quite an uptick lately. Is it the hashtag Masonomics effect? I think it is. So maybe if everyone just keeps following me, I'll feel driven to share some.

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uh stay tuned next episode is a big one it's a doozy 156 if my math serves correct which in these cases many times in the past it has not well but okay so how many leap years happened in the last three years though that's true there's one every four years um but wasn't there like an eclipse thing and doesn't that change things? Ah, yes, lunar eclipse. And Haley's comment, that only comes around once every 80 or so years. So that throws around.

Two or three leap years recently. According to our fuzzy math, it should be our three-year anniversary of the podcast. Which is pretty wild. Yeah. We've got big things planned, of course. We always tease you with the big things that are planned, and this is no exception to that rule.

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