Massenomics Podcast - Ep.164: The Top 10 Strength Training Podcasts

Episode Date: May 27, 2019

Here is our list of ten of the best strength podcasts (in no particular order) currently filling the air waves. Spoiler alert: the Massenomics Podcast is on the list!

M-M-M-M-M-M-M-Massanomics Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. store and buy yourself some of that sweet mass. All right, welcome everyone to episode number 164 of the massonomics podcast, the world's strongest podcast, also known as the lifting podcast about nothing. Your two hosts are here again today, Tommy and Tanner. Tommy,

what's crapping? Not a lot. Not a lot at all. We're back in the saddle again. Doing what we do best. We're actually cramming a couple episodes into one week here. Playing some time tricks on you guys. So you're not going to know what's coming or going. What the hell's happening to you. So today we are going to talk about podcasts. Fitting that this is a podcast.

We thought it made pretty good sense. Do you know what a podcast even is, Tanner? No. Is that something that you stream off of like Hulu Plus? There you go. That's what it is. Yep. Cracked it.

What is the definition of a podcast? I actually don't know what the actual definition is. Is it free? I don't know. Is free required? Well, technically i don't think it is i think it's i think what it is it's based off of like streaming is it streaming like an rss yeah it is yeah i think it operates on like the same technology as that so you put out a file and then using like rss technology it it's basically a blog i believe i mean it is it's basically a blog

but then instead of putting out text posts you're putting out like audio files and so it operates in kind of the same way i guess do you know about uh any paid podcast like have you heard about like not say not apple podcast not stitcher maybe some other. Like apps or? Well, maybe other hosting sites or something where it's paid to listen. This actually is kind of becoming a thing. And a lot of people are sort of rallying against it. And I kind of do agree because it kind of does break up. It kind of does break what's going on here. Yeah.

But, like, you could even say, like, Spotify right now. They're starting, you know, this podcast is on spotify you can listen to it there but i believe they're starting to produce original content uh but what that does now is that spotify is yeah spotify is like so they might have like a radio show you know where they pay this person to produce something with the idea that okay if we get a radio show that people like they're going to want to tune in um you know every week but then at that point it's like it's kind of a radio show right it's not a podcast right that's really not a whole lot different than what like Sirius XM does with Howard Stern is you know they're they're not really traditional FM radio it's a service you subscribe to it and when you subscribe to it by you know paying your monthly fees then you get to

listen to this man do his show which isn't completely in the nature of podcasts. Well, that's so is podcasting is free. It doesn't have to be free in order to be a podcast. I actually did read an article the other day because this is becoming more common of people kind of trying to make a point of unless you are releasing it for free, you shouldn't call it a podcast because then it is turning into just kind of like a piece of content that you have to pay money for. And depending on your business model, that may or may not be good for you. I don't know.

How much should we charge, do you think, from now on? It's hard to put a price on something that's priceless. That's true. That's what this episode is really about is how much we're going to start charging you guys to listen to this. So, yeah, this is step one of collecting the monies. So, yeah, this is step one of collecting the monies. We're getting you broke into starting to subliminally get you to rationalize that podcasts are going to cost money, so that way we can start charging you. So it's called price anchoring.

We're going to just say most people pay $100 a month for this, so by offering it for $50. Also in that article you read, that's kind of the going rate, right? Yeah, $100 a month. So by offering $50, we're coming in at a half half price but we're bringing twice the value so you can't pass that deal up it's almost costing you not to do it kind of is yeah it really is yeah it's a like a light a life negative if you don't go through on it definitely yeah but we're going to talk about fitness podcasts oh before we get started tanner what is your preferred podcast app i listen to apple podcasts on your on your iphone yes you know what my favorite one i would say 99 i mean

i would say 100 of occasionally i might look at something on youtube yeah but i do not yeah yeah not very often other than that it's it's on there so mine and this is fairly well known but some people don't know if you use an iphone there's an app called overcast and i am in love with this podcast app and the biggest thing is do you ever listen to podcasts at faster than normal speed sometimes i have like i haven't been lately because i just forget about it or something well and a lot of them do it does sound kind of shitty when you turn it on yeah but what overcast has that is so awesome is they have a feature called Smart Speed. So it looks ahead and it sees gaps in the audio, like silence.

And basically what it does is it compresses those. Like, you know, we're talking. We stop to think. Maybe there's a two-second gap of nothing. It sees those and it compresses that gap to be – I mean,'t just butt it up to tech or to talking so that it does make sense but it shrinks that gap so that it starts to cut that stuff out and then also with its speed let's say you go to uh one and a quarter speed yeah it's not just stuck at one and a quarter it's bouncing between like maybe 1.1 speed and 1.35 like when it thinks yeah So it's always thinking for when it thinks it

should go. So you can get through things surprisingly fast doing it that way. And what actually shocked me the other day, I wasn't aware of this. I've been using, it's a free app. I've been using it for probably two years, maybe even more now. And I went down into the settings just to look and I was just browsing through because I'm like, oh, there might be, maybe there's stuff in this app I don't know about. it. I'm the very bottom. SmartSpeed has saved you 58 hours in speed adjustments. I'm like, that is a lot of audio content that I wouldn't if I just played at normal speed that I couldn't say I listened to at this point in time. That is a lot. You know, that's almost a third of the massonomics library right there that

you could be getting through. That is a lot. So that's something to think about for your iPhone users out there. If you're not using it, I would recommend, you know, give it a spin. It sees your library so you don't have to worry about resubscribing to everything. And, you know, try it out. Let me know what you think because I'm a big fan of that one. Before we go into the main thing we're talking about, do you have any newer podcasts that you're listening to that you like?

I think maybe we've mentioned this in the podcast before, is Dan Carlin's Hardcore History. Yeah. If you're into history at all, it's really, really entertaining stuff. He doesn't produce a lot of stuff just because his shows range from three to 12 hours long. Yeah. I like, so I like his stuff when it comes out. He does have one, it's more political.

It's called Common Sense. I have found that one somewhat interesting lately. Probably my favorite one though, actually, if I were to recommend one to anybody would be the Congratulations podcast by Chris D'Elia. And Chris D'Elia is a comedian. He's one of the bigger names in comedy right now. Actually, on the way to the Arnold, I did play a clip. So I should just say, if anyone wants to get in and get a taste of this,

I actually played a clip for Tanner while we were driving to the Arnold, and Tanner started going into convulsionsions and he couldn't talk or breathe. And when he got done, he said, Holy shit, that's the funniest thing I ever heard. He goes, I was trying to tell you to stop. Cause my back was cramping, but I couldn't talk. I couldn't breathe. Like I was getting, I could not no longer breathe. I felt like I was going to die from, from not being able to catch my breath from, uh, uh, just doing like silent laughing where you can't even laugh because it's just nothing coming out anymore i'm gonna find what episode this is uh okay so it's uh and what was what what's the topic of the so so what does what uh what gets really fun okay so it's episode 96 is what you need to listen to if you haven't if you want to like get an early intro just listen to the whole thing this is is Chris D'Elia's podcast.

Chris D'Elia, yeah. It's called Congratulations. So episode 96 is a really funny one. And what he started doing later on, this is actually one of the first episodes he did it, was he would just read the Craigslist Missed Connections. And if you're not familiar with Craigslist Missed Connections, Missed Connections are a weird thing.

They're a weird, mysterious thing. It's kind of, I mean, first of all, to go on there and write, you have to be a very different type of person already. But I believe the way it is, is like if you see someone that, you know, you had a connection to, or you were attracted to, or you wanted to say something to, and just you didn't connect with them, you missed your chance to have this conversation. You go on Craigslist Missed Connections. You type out your confession of how you saw this person. They were beautiful or incredible or whatever it is.

And then you just hope that that person is also browsing your local Craigslist and says, ah, yes, that is – That was me. I did see that person. That's me. So what he does is he lives in California. He goes on like the LA Craigslist and basically just reads, it's just horny gay men looking for other horny gay men. And the things are just like graphic.

I mean, you've got to give the guy some points for creativity here. But what's really funny is he's talking about some guy wrote a misconnection for, really funny is he's talking about some guy wrote a misconnection for, he said he was at the Whole Foods in Silver Lake or somewhere. And he goes, I saw you looking at me in the meat section. And he goes right away, yeah, meat, of course, they're in the meat section. And he goes, I saw you check out the bulge. I wasn't wearing any underpants.

And so he's reading the whole thing and he goes, you know what? He goes, if that was a movie, Liam Neeson would be in it. And then he says, that would be the only movie I would buy all of the tickets for. And then he starts to say, you just saw the bulge. And starts doing the whole Liam Neeson. And it's really funny. So that is, if you listen to it, you have to go to episode 96. Go towards the end. And it just keeps going and going.

But really you should listen to the whole hour. You kind of have to listen to the whole, go towards the end, and it just keeps going and going. But really, you should listen to the whole hour. You kind of have to listen to the whole thing, and then he keeps referencing it. Oh, yeah, yeah. He keeps going back to it. You were looking at the bulge. I will find you, and I will kill you. You can't do a Liam Neeson impersonation. But first, I will jack you off, or whatever.

He just keeps reading through what this person says, and it's so funny. You can't do a Liam Neeson impersonation with it's Liam Neeson from taken. Yes. Is always. Yeah. And that's what it's supposed to be. And then like, so someone went,

someone goes along and I believe, uh, yeah. So they, yeah. Look at me and smiled. You stared. I never wear underwear.

Love to show it off again. But first I'll jack you off when I wear no underwear or I will kill you. So anyways, the people go on and they start like to dub clips of his voice over Liam Neeson's. And it's it's pretty funny. Yeah, it's really good. That that kind of is probably my hidden gem – it's not even really a hidden gem. It's one of the most popular podcasts right now in the comedy world. But Crystal Lee, congratulations. Highly recommend it. That is good.

On the – what's the name of that history one again too? Hardcore history. Yeah, hardcore history. I know I've listened to one or two of them before. Do you know – is there one specific to World War II? Yeah. Like to see the World War II? And I forget the name of it.

Okay. So he had the one about the bomb called the story of worlds yeah and that was actually the one that got me into it okay uh and that was just like crazy hearing about all the stuff because you know i i took history in high school like every other person it was like oh america went to war and there was a lot of countries involved and then finally the then finally the American scientists teamed up and we built this bomb and we dropped it on Japan and the war was done. And that's kind of how it went, you know,

how it was explained to me growing up. And so like to really hear the ins and outs of all of that stuff. Yeah. And he really goes into that and like asks a lot of questions. But yeah, Destroyer of Worlds was that one about that. I think you can go on his action and what he does because his things are so massive is he keeps a few of them that you can listen to in his feed and then after that you just have to buy him if you want to go back farther but uh i can't

remember what the actual one about because there is another one about world war ii yeah that would probably be supposedly wrath of cons is supposed to be one of the best things ever, all about Genghis Khan. It's like 12 hours long. I've had a lot of people recommend that one to me, but I have not got around to it. Apparently, like one in five people are actually descendants of Genghis Khan himself because he had so many children.

And apparently, he also killed so many people that like the carbon footprint of the world changed. Because of him. Because of him. Yeah. Hard to wrap your head around but yeah i don't know there's a lot there yeah so that's uh chris d'alia and hardcore history would be your those would be my two my two go to besides what we're gonna get to on the list here right right so the list so should we talk about the list yes we should i think all right list now? Yes, we should, I think. All right. So this list is, we have it titled the Top 10 Best Strength Training Podcast. And this is actually an article we had out previously, almost a couple years ago by now, wasn't it?

Something like that. Yeah, I think the first publishing of this article was probably close to three years ago. Yeah, okay. Somewhere between two and three. So what happened was a lot of it became outdated a lot of the podcasts that were on there no longer it's like the industry we live in is like constantly changing yes yes and you know not everyone's cut out to survive in this cutthroat industry i think to come up with a list of 10 there was four or five on the old list that we had to nix out of there and well because

they either don't exist or they just don't produce content yes one of the other people that were producing these together aren't associated with each other anymore and it's funny too i was you know i as well while doing these i've talked to some of the people that put out these other other podcasts and talked about that fact how you just like the attrition rate is so high even of these ones that were what we would consider popular that seemed like oh like just uh like that won't go anywhere yeah yeah like like this is one of the pillars of this podcast industry and then it's gone and it's gone and there there's so many factors that go into it a you have to get along with the people that you're doing it with for like if you're gonna have a podcast for five years with someone you're gonna have to hang out with a weekly conversation for

five years so let's be honest here a lot of marriages don't last that long so a casual relationship yes uh and then also money like that's a in people podcasts that actually get money like that could be so easy solution there if your podcast just never gets money there's nothing to argue about money wise right it's worked out for us so far i believe it was puff daddy that said more money more problems ah he also said that uh he had what did he also have uh 99 problems no no that was jay-z east coast rap east coast rappersers. You were close. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

You get your East Coast Rappers. Yeah, yeah. So anyways, we did have to replace these. We came up with a new list of 10, and we were going to kind of run down them here. And these are all, the title says strength training. It's probably more geared towards powerlifting because we are more geared towards powerlifting as well. But also, they are strength training. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. And it's not powerlifting exclusive in some of these. As we run through them, you'll kind of hear that between their guests and the actual things they talk to. It's not limited to powerlifting. Yep. And before we get going here, if you do want to actually read in-depth on any of these articles, you can check out the Massanomics. Massanomics.com. Go to the blog blog and it actually

is the top top article right now so yeah otherwise also if you google it we will come up number one yes if you just do i think if you just google top strength training podcasts or top powerlifting podcast will be one of the very tops on the list yep so first on the list is iron radio and this one i remember at the time blew my mind because it felt like it had been around forever once i actually saw the number of episodes. And, of course, now two and a half years later, they're still around. Yeah, and they actually, this was crazy. I had to update this.

They just passed the 10-year mark of never missing a weekly episode. And that does not seem possible. That does not seem possible. First of all, they started a podcast 10 years ago. That also, I didn't know podcasts existed until probably six years ago, maybe. And I thought I was doing pretty good when I found out about that. But 10 years ago, like 2009, I for sure never heard the word podcast in 2009. Yeah.

It's crazy. It really is crazy. They know, it really is crazy. They have to be on the list. If for nothing else, even if the podcast was awful, they would have to be on the list for that reason. Lifetime dedication award. That's not the case. I don't listen to theirs every week,

but their topics span do really, like they could be considered a strength training podcast because it can be about bodybuilding, about powerlifting, about a lot of like health science stuff. Nutrition. Yeah, nutrition science stuff. They have a lot of people that have PhDs and other alphabet stuff behind their name. Just like our podcast. Yeah, yeah.

Like they have, they do deeper dives into specific topics. And it's not a particularly humorous show. That's not their goal. It's more informative, and it's usually a little less off the cuff, and I think that's the people that like that. Yeah. That's what, you know, that's, they like it because it's not just them bullshitting, like, you know.

Yeah, just throwing facts off the cuff like some other podcast. Yeah, like some other shitty old podcast. Which brings us to the next one on the list. So, yeah, Iron Radio is the first on the list, and these are in no particular order, just going through here. Number two on the list, but number one in your hearts, would be the Masonomics podcast. And if you're not familiar with this one,

then you're in a really weird position because you're listening to us right now. But we have also hit the three-year mark. Yeah, we crossed the three-year mark. Which I think puts us in pretty elite territory. We've discussed that before. But, yeah, also not missing a week going on and on. Yes, we have never missed. We have had a new episode out every single week over that 160.

This would be four, 164 straight weeks it's pretty crazy it is jen just think we're doing that for we have to do it at least three times yeah like almost a third of the way there yeah but uh yeah you guys know who we are by now and if you think we're not going to put our own name on a podcast list then you're just crazy of course especially when this this list gets a lot of good traffic and it does pop up like number one in google when you search for these specific terms so you're not we're not that dumb no we'd be pretty stupid not to be not to be in there and plus i think it's probably deservedly so i think so i've seen it pop on up in other lists that

aren't made by us so that's how you know it's good yeah independently uh verified yeah this next one on the list is the first one to be a new one from the last from the last time we did yes this is yeah this one is new this replaced one of the one of the old ones because it is a little bit newer itself most of the ones we brought on that the new ones on this list are uh weren't really around when we did the list the last time which is good you want to see more people getting into it i think and well in order for there to still be podcasts there almost has to be new new ones yeah there's always ones that are quitting and dropping out uh it's the broke broadcast with andy and brandon allen and it is they do a lot of interviews. Every episode is basically an interview.

Their format is, the first part is those two bullshitting about their training, what they have going on, what meets they're getting ready for, and that sort of thing. And then they usually always bring on a guest. And it's always, you know, kind of a top-level power lifter. And they'll bring them on. It's always a phone interview. I don't like that as well as in person.

But it's, I guess, the sacrifices for the quality of guests. Unless you're Mark Bell, that kind of just is how it works. Yes, exactly. And they talk a lot about smoking weed and the steroids that they take and all that sort of stuff. Things that you don't hear on. That most podcasts aren't talking about. Right, right. So that's probably one of the most interesting parts of theirs is they're really open about all of that.

Which I think people do appreciate in this industry because there's so many people that are just hiding behind things. I don't think they're holding anything back. Especially Brandon does not have a filter of anything that he says. Tanner, you do have one downside listed to this podcast. Oh, what was it? Do you want to share it with people? Yeah.

What your perceived downside is. Yes, that's actually a good point. The only downside is having to listen to Brandon try to make it through the full list of their sponsors without completely running out of breath. They have a terrible rundown of their sponsors. If you listen, this isn't making fun of them. You will agree, I promise, if you listen to their podcast,

listen to Brandon talk, go through the sponsors. It's terrible. And if you don't skip past through that, you're like a saint because I can't imagine anyone not skipping past that three minutes of him going through the list of sponsors. They do have some good sponsors. Yeah, there are some good people there, and you've got to do what you've got to do to get that money.

I don't fault them for that. It's just really painful to listen to. Next on the list, number four, we have Elite FTS Table Talk, and this will also be a new one to the list. Yeah, this one's newer, and I've started listening to this one recently, and I do like this one because I like listening to Dave Tate. He also – A man with a lot of experience.

Yeah, and he's got a lot of opinions, and he doesn't really hold back any of his opinions either. And he can speak from not only that as a lifter but also as a businessman and equipment manufacturer. Yeah, like a lot. Basically anything in the field. So, yeah, he has kind of every perspective covered when it comes to this. Yeah. And I like it. I mean, some of them are super long.

They'll be like three hours long because it'll be him and Jim Wendler sitting around a table and just going on and on. Well, and they'll maybe go through listener questions, but in three hours they'll answer seven questions because it's just them. They have that much they can say. Yeah, right, right. It's good, though. I don't think there's a lot of episodes out. There's maybe only just about ten out, and that's another thing. It's usually a guest on there.

He's bringing someone on to talk to, and it's guest dependent dependent on if i listen to those or not and that that is kind of the uh the barrier for entry with a lot of these is do you recognize the guest right that's what gets you in yep next up iron minds podcast ah yes uh the guys from st louis who we actually uh met them in person for the first time at the Arnold this year. They came up to the booth when we were there, and we got a picture with them and talked to them for a little bit. And two of them power lift, and the third one body build. So they most commonly cover those two lifting genres the power lifting and bodybuilding

and they've had some guests on in the past that they did phone interviews and i think they've kind of gone away from that yeah and they actually have had a decent amount of like in-person interviews yeah yes they because they like when they go to the arnold that that's their thing is their they had ed cohen this year and uh big james uh strickland and uheroy Walker, several other than that. But, yes, they've been doing more in-person ones. And then also they've been having more episodes that are just like a topic and they discuss it rather than an interview so much. We're probably more similar to each other than most of the podcasts on this list,

being that we're not like the real industry insiders or the top-level athletes. We don't – we, Tommy and I, really don't claim to be experts on anything that we're doing, and I don't think that they do either with their podcasts, and that's – it's just a different perspective. You know, some of these – like, if you're listening to Dave Tate, like we said, you're listening to someone that has lived every bit of it and knows everything and uh you're

there listening to him preach about his yeah he's mostly coming at things from like a point of view of experience right and whereas us we're kind of coming at it more of a you know as a this is what we think as a fan yeah someone that likes to talk about it. It's more like you're along with Iron Minds or ourselves. You're along for the ride with us, I think. Yes, that is a better way of putting it. You never know what might happen here. This could just blow up any day. That's true.

And you were along for the ride. Yeah, and you were along for the ride with us. I mean, you're not really going to cash in on any of it like we are. It's not to your advantage, but I guess you can tell your friends you're here first. But you can say you were there. Those little podcast hipsters that were there first. It's like when you know the band before they're cool and you're like, oh, I liked

their stuff on their first album. Yep. But no one should say that about our podcast, though. Good point. So yeah, Iron Minds, they're doing good stuff. keep that yeah check theirs out if you don't know about know about theirs give give uh give them a listen try it out next up strength chat by kabuki strength yeah and this would be chris duffin also a man coming uh at

the industry speaking about the industry with a lot of experience. I do like the guys that also have owned businesses. I like hearing about, I like, say, Brandon Allen and Andy Huang. They're basically just power. Right now they're living the top-level powerlifter life, and that is cool to hear that perspective. But I do like these guys that are business owners, and you get to hear some of that in there too. But I do like these guys that are business owners, and you get to hear some of that in there too.

And Duffins, they have a lot of PhDs. They do get very science-y with things. They're not like, oh, we've done this for a long time, so just trust us. No, they are doing a lot of research on things. So there isn't always the most casual listening, but if there are specific topics out there that you're interested in. They're probably going to geek out on it pretty hard. Yes, yes. Tell you more about it than you ever knew.

Right. And it's not, they do cover, you know, bigger things like, oh, yeah, just your major tips. But they also have like little tiny things that they're always talking about, too, that seem like you're just like tweaking in performance to the like craziest degree. Yep. But that's just how much of a microscope they put this stuff under. Yep. Then what do we got? Next up, Strong Talk from Starting Strongman.

Yeah, and that would be Cale Beck. And that podcast, his podcast, I think has changed forms a few times over. He's had. He was on the original list, though, too. Yeah, yeah. He was on the original list. So he's also been doing this quite a while. Yes, yes. And at first, I think it was him and robert oberst they did a podcast together then he had a different guy on there with them and they they have taken some

breaks in there but now what his podcast really has become is he previews big strong man shows and he recaps big strong man shows and that is kind of the unique one about this is that it's so focused on yeah strong man whereas these other ones might touch on it you know if something crazy is happening they might actually not even talk about it at all but this one you're it's really gonna uh you know take care of that strongman right and i i do like his because they're not that long and if it's a preview for world's world's strongest man would probably be the biggest preview but again uh it's usually a preview show would probably be 15 or 20 minutes, and he's just running down the competitors, the events,

and kind of how he thinks they'll do. And I like hearing that sometimes. Or the competitors, the events, and how they did if it's a recap. I do like it for that. Because there's not a lot of resources that provide that information. No, really no. I mean, if you're into Strongman and want to know that stuff, even of the very highest level.

And even just finding it online is nearly impossible. Yeah, Kale basically is the source for finding that stuff online, whether it's through his podcast or a YouTube video or his written blog on his website. Next up, we have The Jug Life life i believe they were on the last list they were and they were kind of the new the new kid on the block at that time yeah they were as as we added them to the list last time i think it was like just coming out like did they have five episodes to their name even maybe and at the time their audio quality was horrendous it was

really bad yes listen to their podcast it was like they recorded it off of their phone yeah just released it and it's changed a lot since then uh you know it's gotten way better much higher production you can tell that goes and even like their subject matter has changed quite a bit too from like beers with chad to you know where it used to be focused really specifically on training they've kind of got into other things and incorporated you know where it used to be focused really specifically on training they've kind of got into other things and incorporated you know people from different like it's a lot more like coaching in general now where it could be for athletic you know coaching you know like for track and field for you know they they talk with a lot more coaches yeah yeah yeah right for sure um not it's not so heavily focused on powerlifting. And probably a part of that is Chad really, when he started, he was a powerlifter, and at this point he's really not a powerlifter anymore.

At this point he's, like, unrecognizable for who he was when this, like, the guy in this photo right here, that man does not exist anymore. Not most of him. He looks much healthier now, there's no doubt about that. I don't think anyone will question that. But yeah, he's a very different looking person. Yeah. So yeah, it's kind of crazy just to see how even people can change over this time frame.

Right. Up next, we have 50% Facts. And this one is really interesting in kind of the shoes that it's filling or the void that it's filling, maybe you could say. In a way, this podcast feed was on the old list in a roundabout way. You do have a point, yes. It was not 50% facts at that point in time. So 50% facts. The last closest thing on the list to this would probably have been the Super Training Podcast.

PowerCast. PowerCast, yes. PowerCast. I can't, yes. PowerCast. I can't remember what it's called now. PowerCast, which if you listen to podcasts and you're into powerlifting, there's a good chance you've listened to many, many, many of those episodes. I think it was like one of the, for me, I can say one of the first podcasts that got me into this whole audio lifting thing.

I don't think there was a ton around at the time. Oh, me too, for sure. And that was with Mark Bell, Silent Bell, silent Mike and Jim McD. Yeah. Well, over time, this is one of those that falls into the example of things change, people change, situations change. And, uh, I know everyone has kind of gone on to do their own different podcast thing. Well, now we're at a point where Silent Mike and Jim McD have teamed up to produce 50% Facts. And they're coming at it, they're just kind of coming at the idea of producing this content

a little different than, you know, like we handle it, or most people do, where we have a discussion point and we talk about it, or we have a few discussion points and we talk about it, where they kind of do this whole, probably more like we do, kind of this guessing game kind of thing and just you know talking and then they get someone in that actually knows what they're talking about actual expert and that's the second half of the show is kind of talk about what they had right what they had wrong and what the real facts are about that topic and that's where your 50 facts come from yeah and if you do like all, all the old PowerCast episodes are on that feed also, though.

So if you had to remember what I was talking about. Yeah, that is the thing is, yeah, if you look in that feed, it does belong to Jim McNee. Yes, yes. But, yeah, another great one there. After that, we have the Strength Athlete. Yes. I believe this was also on the last list, wasn't it? Yes, it was.

And I think it was also relatively new at that time. I think they only had a few episodes. Even as of now now a few years later they don't have a lot of episodes i was gonna say this is one that you get a what do you get an episode maybe every other month or so probably about right on and even then the quality can still be varying because they have guys calling in and but yeah you don't listen to this for the consistency or the audio quality probably and also if you don't care about the usa plr ipf you probably also don't listen to this one right but with that being said if you care about those things especially like the real like nitty-gritty inner workings of all that stuff this one has got you covered because these guys train and lift

exclusively and coach exclusively in those environments. So they know really what's going on there probably better than almost anyone else. Yes, for sure. And, you know, Tanner, that's a, that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. Yeah. I had, well, there was only nine on there. I was going to say, something changed here.

A lot of people, I was trying to remember all the suggestions that people sent in, and I did not have the Elite FTS table talk on there, so I added that one. I did get a quick one pulled on me there. Yeah, there was some other good suggestions, but that was my favorite suggestion, and I said, yeah, that one should be on the list so i added it okay um but you know another one that people have said why is this you did get a lot of recommendations as you do with any list you publish and people feeling like something should be on what are some of the other ones you got well a few not many people but i did hear see at least one person say well why don't't you have Mark Bell's power project on it or whatever

that his new one is. My thing to that is, I don't know if I consider that a strength training podcast in almost any sense. They will get the occasional guest on that's still in the power lifting world. My thing, I wouldn't recommend it to

people, really. It's not my recommendation. The motivational But my thing, I wouldn't recommend it to people really. It's not my recommendation. Yeah, the motivational preachy thing gets old after a while. Yes. I think everyone maybe has a certain level of tolerance, and some people maybe have a bigger tolerance for that than others. But there just comes a point when it's just like, oh, man, I get it. You made a slingshot, and you made a lot of money.

I don't know if we need to make this thing out to be more than what it actually is. Right. And we're not – I don't think we've ever bashed – like it's kind of like almost a popular thing to bash on Mark Bell. People think it's like, screw you, Mark Bell. You're the worst. And I don't think – we don't think that. He's also made – he's also given more money to the industry than you ever will. Right.

I mean he has that. So if you're mad at him about the money thing, well, okay, he to the industry than you ever will right i mean he has that so if you're mad at him about the money thing well okay he's given more than you're right and he's also gotten he's also produced more content than you ever like no one will with the exception of only a couple people and your shitty instagram feed doesn't count no one will produce as much content as he has like there's no way so right he's gotten tons and tons of people into the sport and isn't that the whole point of this thing is to get people involved so if we're trying to be elitist and gatekeepers and keep people out i don't know are are you really doing it like right what what's your what's your purpose then if you're the gatekeeper exactly so uh so i think

we make a we purposely don't try to act like that. We don't do that about anyone, really, first of all. But I think when a lot of people hate on one thing, to me, it just gets lame to do it. It almost makes me like things when people start hating on it. Yeah. To me, I was kind of bummed out when the PowerCast sort of broke up because I like that. But then when everyone just starts hating on Mark Bell, it's like, well, also, it seems like it's popular to do now. So it's really not that cool.

You're just doing it because people are doing that. And then it just goes right back to the thing of people just hate to see other successful people. Right, right. And hey, great for you, Mark Bell. And that has no bearing on my life. Right, right. That's why I think it's clear for us it's not because we think he's terrible or something that's not on the list. It's probably more so than anything it doesn't really fit.

Yeah. And, yeah, we just don't find the message that it doesn't resonate with us that well. Not to say it doesn't or it shouldn't with you, but it just doesn't fit into what we find entertaining that well. Yes, exactly. There were some other good suggestions, too. Yeah, and I'm trying to remember what those were. Several of them I had never heard of. Yeah, some of them were just probably don't have a huge audience, and I haven't heard of them.

You could probably just go on iTunes, type in powerlifting strength training, and I'm sure you'll find. I mean, obviously, there's a lot more there, but you'll probably find the ones that were recommended. And there was some ones that I did recognize, and I was like, oh, yeah, that would be a good one to add to the list. And there was a few of those in there. I think the Mike Deshear one came up ah yes is his rts or something like that yeah i think that would be good yes that's a really good that's a really good suggestion i feel like another guy with a ton of experience competing being around everything and he does keep it up to date on massonomics now and uh uh throw has thrown in his two cents before i think

on the jefferson deadlift even so yeah yeah yeah it's official yes everyone loves it yeah uh but yeah that is the list anything anything else to cover with that tanner no the other thing i you know we get messages quite a bit uh quite a bit i at times about other people that are thinking about starting a podcast you know maybe thinking about starting a strength training podcast or a power lifting podcast and uh you know i thought maybe it'd be interesting to hear just our couple minutes of advice of what we think think or don't think about that so what's your first thought if someone says they're going to start a podcast my first thought is do it yeah so this is a lot of people be like oh it's so saturated so well if you're only doing it

for the money then okay that might matter yeah like then you're probably screwed and don't if that's your only goal yeah like but if you want to um i don't know learn something new get better at something try and engage with an audience of any kind, just challenge yourself. I say do it. I'm never going to knock anybody or discourage anybody from trying to do something new. That's dumb. There's enough people that are negative about that stuff.

So if you're thinking about doing a podcast, I say totally do it. But also understand that it is a lot of work. It is a commitment. It's the same thing with an apparel business. Anyone can do it. Literally anyone can do it. There's probably even, just same thing with an apparel business. Anyone can do it. Literally anyone can do it. There's probably even more people that think they should start. Yeah.

That's probably even a more extreme example. Anyone can do it, but not anyone, not everyone can have the discipline to stay consistent with it. And that's what it takes to be successful with any of this stuff. And not even successful, but just to like keep with it. You have to just stay disciplined and be producing stuff all the time because the world moves on without you really, really fast. Yeah, you have to be realistic.

If you're going to do it and think to yourself, even if you're doing it completely by yourself, maybe it's going to be a one-man show. You say, well, I still have to at least every week. I would say you probably don't have to do it every week. No, you don't have to at all.

If that's what you're doing, if that's your goal is to put it out weekly, you're going to have to sit down every week, record, and have something to talk about for 30 minutes to an hour plus every week. And then imagine you have to do that, you know, plan on probably doing it for at least a year. I mean, if you're to the point of thinking about wanting to do that, you know, plan on probably doing it for at least a year. I mean, if you're to the point of thinking about wanting to do it, there's no point in doing it. You're planning to be like, well, if this doesn't take off after a month or two, I'm done. Because probably it's not going to.

Yeah. And it's probably not going to take off after a year. It's probably not. But then you'll find out if you actually enjoy doing it. It's a labor of love or just something you're just fighting through. Yes. Find out if you actually enjoy doing it. It's a labor of love or just something you're just fighting through. Yes.

And I think that is where most podcasts fail is that they just can't produce content. And there's no reward. You know, you're not like. And there really isn't much for rewards with this. Like we've done it long enough and we can say like, yeah, the reward has been like we've got to meet some really cool people. people like it has been it has kind of been the start to some relationships with you know different people different businesses which probably wouldn't have existed in the way they do right now if it wasn't for the podcast yeah and yeah and there there are definitely rewards for us like for doing it but it's just like not always people think the reward is just getting paid to

do the yeah like for us it's not a thing where like we uh download the balance sheet at the end of the month and say oh thank you podcast it just doesn't work, for us, it's not a thing where, like, we download the balance sheet at the end of the month and say, oh, thank you, podcast. It just doesn't work that way. I mean, it does have a lot of intangible, you know, there's some marketing value in it, but, I mean, really, we're doing it because we like to do it. Yeah. And, you know, at the very least, I can say,

I think I'm somewhat more comfortable with a microphone in front of my face. That's true. At the very least, more comfortable hearing my voice, whereas the first few episodes, that will make your skin crawl, and now it's like, yeah, that's true after at the very least more comfortable hearing my voice whereas the first few episodes that will make your skin crawl and now it's like yeah that's just a dude talking so i'm used to that to the point of that it's almost like oh that guy's kind of that guy said something kind of funny sometimes i think oh okay one of those guys knows what they're talking about once in a while yep and i guess that's a win, you know? So when it comes to podcasts, my thing is do it. Yeah, the equipment and stuff is not a huge hurdle either.

And really, equipment doesn't matter. You'll see Joe Rogan and Chris D'Elia, one of the ones I recommended. These guys all use really nice microphones that are $500 to $700 a pop. That costs more than our entire setup here. And I'm not sure that the average listener or even most listeners would even know the difference. Nope, I don't think so. Like money almost doesn't matter with the equipment. As long as it's not shitty, it doesn't matter.

So yeah, it's a cheap thing to get into. You don't need anyone's permission. You just do it and have fun with it. For sure. Sage advice from one of the top 10 best strength training podcasts. And that's saying, well, what better source could it come from than one of the best? There are no particular order other than the best one is saved for spot number two on the list. Well, yeah, everyone knows you put number two, you know, fat cleanup.

Well, it was, if we put ourself number one, it looks obvious. It does look, yeah, yeah, yeah. If we go number two, it's like, oh, okay, they weren't being too conceited about it. Yep. Should we talk about some big lifts? Yes, we should. I think, actually, last week,

we just had so much to talk about last week. These are all kind of like a week old, but we didn't get to them. But do you want to talk about this first one here? How i don't even say is it luke nall yeah i think that's probably right he had a rookie card this is how he really knows he's made it he has a rookie card yes this past week from massonomics yes that is that is the surefire sign to know that you've made it i like it when we make those for people and like a lot of people you know they'll comment like i've made it now it's like like very well-established power lifters. The joke is that that's what they.

That's the milestone. That's what they do this for. So what did he do in his first meet ever? And it's funny because we had just recently made Josh Morris's rookie card. Yeah. And that was our biggest rookie card. He had almost totaled 2,200. And I'm still not sure if that was maybe the bit at the time was it had to have been close to the biggest first meet total yeah it has it has to be

up there like and i am pretty sure if that wasn't the best that luke's now is i do not think there's anyone that has a bigger first meet total than than this he totaled 2281 pounds in his first ever meet are you sure you're not rounding up and down on that number at all, Tanner? Well, I probably is, and someone will catch me on that. Because if you're off by a tenth of a pound, it's kind of in just – It's a big deal. It kind of negates what we're all about to say. That's true.

Okay, so your research tells you 2,281. Right, and at 23 years old, his first meet up. Are you sure he was 23? You're not rounding on that number at all? It was like my 7- my seven year old you know the halves are pretty important they are halves the quarters can even be important to yep if you're yeah because if you say he's 23 and people someone finds out listening that he's 23 and a half someone could get really pissed off about this and at 23 i don't know how old you get when the

halves stop having as much importance but maybe at 23 it's still kind of a big deal yeah see it's been a while since i've been 23 so i I had a hard time remembering if I still cared about halves at that point. I might have. I don't know for sure. But, yeah, so 2281, 23 years old. Via a 887-pound squat, which is a lot, a 622-pound bench, which is huge. Yes. A 622-pound bench, which is huge.

Yes. An 887 squat is huge, but a 622 bench in the scheme is even bigger. Relatively speaking, that is an enormous full-meat bench. And then I cut off a number here, but like a 771 or something, whatever it comes down to. 770-something deadlift. Yeah. Which that is still crazy. It is. For your first meet at 23,

but it's probably out of the three is the most in the realm of sanity. Yeah. It's hard to believe that that could be someone's actual first meet. Yeah. Almost 2,300 pounds. I looked it up.

In 2019, I think it is tied for the fourth largest total of the entire year really yeah the only people were ahead of them were like ray williams uh brandon allen cup you know just like just a couple and all time i think it was like the 36th biggest total of all years ever raw, which is a very respectable first. Yeah. And so you got to assume that over the next five to 10 years, if he stays healthy, there's going to,

I mean, you would even assume in the next two to three years, if he stays healthy, there's going to be something really crazy going on. But yeah, even looking at long-term picture, if he can keep this going, there could be some,

some unbelievable things on that i would sure think so uh another fun fact about luke is he was a probably might still work there but maybe huck doesn't work there anymore but they are correction officers at the same oh they are really yeah and i don't know if i don't know if huck even still works there but at some point they were they were at the same facility. Which is like, dang, that's kind of crazy. What's going on at that prison? Wow, that is kind of a fun fact. Yeah.

Tom Finn pointed that out on the rookie card. He said, oh, I used to work with that guy at wherever. But I read it more in the Tom Finn voice. You kind of said it in the Tom Finn voice. Used to work with that old son of a bitch. Who's that? Brandon Popeye Perdue. Names that I don't know, but I love.

The next one on the big list, Luke Richardson deadlifted 400 kilos, so 881, 882, whatever that is. Enon uh deadlifted 400 kilos so 881 882 whatever that is uh enormous deadlift yeah for someone that is not he's i mean competing in ipf is he us is he american or no i think he's british yeah pretty sure he's british but insane numbers i believe he was especially for a british guy exactly yeah i mean when they're not talking about austin powers or rolling stones or whatever they do over there i guess somebody can deadlift too but uh yeah i think i heard that like maybe he's he was going to be going to worlds ipf worlds but i think maybe he's hurt or something like that and so this was kind of like uh just a

a yolo lift and training just to see if it was there, and it was there. You only lift once. Words to live by. And then the last one, I don't know how to say the guy's name, so my note says Russian guy, and that's probably the most important thing here. And there was some WRPF meet in Russia, and he, at 198 pounds, benched 601. and that has to be a record right I think that's probably for the 198 class I would assume that that and it happens it happened in a full meet yeah too yeah and it happened and actually I don't even know if it's a full meet it could have been bench only I guess but it happened recently enough that I'm sure open powerlifting

doesn't have it in their actual records. Well, I shouldn't look under squat if I'm looking for a bench. That could be the first problem. What are the 198? Yeah, right now, bench and a full power, the biggest ever is 545 at 198. And then bench ever is 545 at 198 and then bench oh bench ever is 595 so and it actually might be the same guy because it is a russian name okay 2018 okay but uh either way 601 yeah i guess when you can bench 600 pounds at a under 200 that's a three times body weight bench. Yeah. That's nuts.

That's really, really good. There is, I didn't have it on the list, but I just thought about it here because it's current. Do you remember at the Arnold Classic, the guy that was, you know, the amateur, the guy that wins the amateur strongman gets to compete? With the big guys. Do you remember that guy this year? Yeah.

What was his name again? Novikov. Yes. I think it might be, is it Alexei or something like that? His Instagram is in Russian or whatever, so I can't read his name. Not English. Wasn't he Russian? I'm not even sure what he was for sure.

Yeah, something like that. So he has now, you know, the Arnold circuit, the Arnold and Columbus. Yep, they do like South Africa. Yeah, yeah. South America. I think they usually do one in South Africa too. I think they have one in Australia. Yeah. South America. I think they usually do one in South Africa too. I think they have one in Australia. Yes. Well he just won his second

since the Arnold now he has won two of those pro shows. He's really making the rounds on this thing. And he's like beating well in this one second place was Mateus and third place was Jerry Pritchett. Wow. From the one this weekend.

Yeah. Everyone's kind of been talking about Mateus and Martins as the next two. But this guy's making a real run at it. Yeah, he just beat Mateus. Yeah. And this is the second one of these. So this was what, I don't know which one, if this was Africa or where it was,

it's not really important, but he's won two of those now. That's really impressive. So that could be, you know, one one of the and he's way smaller like yeah he like he can't be much over six feet if he is even yeah i mean matthias is big well i was gonna say because matthias is so small yeah right oh but he'll be interesting to watch for for sure for guy. Wow. And he was the amateur winner just a year. You know, he wasn't even in. He was just freshly professional. Makes you want to think that he would for sure just be on the stage next year.

So do we have time for over, under? We do. Overrated, underrated? We do. Fitness is finest. We're not going to do this week, but we are going to get back to next week. After a rave reviews last week, we just, we,

on a time crunch here, we had some, you know, major things to discuss in the podcast, but we will get back to that. I am excited to get back for it. I think. We have a lot to cover too.

I think, I think it went over really well. It hasn't. I've been, you know, looking through the darkest corners of fitness's history. Yeah. And come up with the finest.

Some more fun things for us. Yeah. So underrated or overrated? I struggle with the rules, you know, if I do have to read the full rules every time. Yeah, you got a point. People get on my case now when we don't read them. I guess I'm going to read them really quickly here. Okay.

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So next time I'll just do the FAQ section. There we go. There we go. That's how we can divide and conquer the rules so that everyone's abreast on the rules uh as much as possible without having to go over it completely every episode but if you do need further insight on the rules just listen to previous episodes or just let us know and we'll make sure to include it the next yes and if you notice anything missing in the rules let me know because i would hate for there to be gray incredible oversight on our part yes so underrated or overrated topic number one matt damon wow uh really going at

things that i didn't think i had any opinion on right out of the gate here matt damon well you can't hardly say matt damon's name now without thinking about the, uh, team America, world police, uh, Matt Damon, or he just can only say his name. Uh, fun fact. I had,

this actually isn't that fun of a fact, but I had not seen goodwill hunting until just a few months ago. Really? And then I was like, whoa, okay. This Matt Damon guy's got goodwill. Really good.

It was really, really good. And it was like one of those that I felt like it was just like the movie. It's kind of like The Matrix in the way that it's kind of like just this meme of it. Like you almost can't even take the original thing seriously because it's buried. Yeah, there's not so much stuff. And there's so much stuff around it. I really like Good Will Hunting.

But I felt like I maybe had distanced myself enough from those and I watched it. And I was like, okay, yeah, there's a lot of very 90s things in here. Yeah, yeah. Like the super heavy Boston accents and those type of things. Southeast. Yeah. But it was a really good movie and that actually did change my opinion on Matt Damon. Yeah.

Because before that, I didn't know him for much really. And if it was, it wasn't. What's the Bourne, Jason Bourne? See, and I never watched those ones really. I'm not that big on that at all. I think I'd seen the first one and after that I just kind of gave up on them. And what was the Martian? Ah, yes.

Never saw it either. Want to see it, haven't seen it yet, though. I watched that in a plane. That was a good plane. Yeah, that would be good. Matt Damon. See, it feels like he's not really doing anything right now, though, is he? Yeah, and I don't know how people are rating him out there.

See, I don't know how people are rating him out there you know i'd say i don't know if you're rating him either uh you think he's huge i mean he's pretty popular like he's pretty i think he's more kind of like one of the guys people don't like over and is he over inflated do you think like you know our people that that's the question yeah that is that is the real question here uh He's probably underrated. Yeah. You know, if this came out in the early 2000s, you could probably say he's overrated. Yeah. Just because I don't think he's doing much right now,

he's probably just underrated because I don't think he has much rating right now. He's had some pretty funny cameos on Saturday Night Live. He has, yes. Because he played – That alone makes me want to say he's underrated because – The Supreme Court justice guy that was drinking beers and stuff and partying, whatever that – I mean, I don't follow that closely enough even to remember his name, and the whole country knew it, but Matt Damon is pretty funny on there.

Cavanaugh. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, he's – I did like those a lot. Yeah. So you said underrated. I'll go underrated on Mr. Damon. Okay. Underrated or overrated?

Sweet potatoes in any form. Immediately I want to say overrated because people like to freak out about sweet potatoes. Like, oh, sweet potato fries. But they are pretty good, though, is the thing. I'm saying sweet potatoes more in general than sweet potato fries. Right, right, right. Well, you can't, like, by saying sweet potatoes, you almost have to compare it directly to the white potato.

All right. I've never, I've asked myself this question countless times, never have taken the two seconds to Google it. Is there actually a difference between sweet potatoes and yams? Or is the name interchangeable? As far as I understand, it has something to be the difference of where it's grown in the world. Really? I'm not positive on that.

That's my fairly uneducated. Well, according to Google, the sweet orange colored root vegetable that you love so dearly is actually called a sweet potato. Yes, also called yams are in fact sweet potatoes. Are yams and sweet potatoes different? The truth is yams and sweet potatoes are very different. Are vegetables sweet potatoes? I don't know. Yeah.

I can't even get a straight answer from Google here. This is really annoying. Oh, a true. Yeah. According to this, a true yam just looks like a regular old potato to me. But I don't think that that's right either. Yeah. Well, either way.

Conclusive at this point. Yep. Jury's still out. No one knows, apparently. But I think sweet potatoes are underrated. Like, they're one of those things that you can't do. When you make a sweet potato, do you just pop it in the microwave? I have done that before, yeah.

I did that for a long time. I just pop a sweet potato in the microwave for like five minutes. And it's surprisingly good for just being microwaved. Like normally things you put in the microwave for more than two minutes are always a little suspect or at the very least they're a shitty frozen food. A yam is one of the few things that can hit the five-minute mark and still kind of be natural and good. A sweet potato with some butter, melted butter, is pretty good. Sweet potatoes are far less dry than a white potato. Yes, and sweet potatoes are one of the few things that I am okay with putting a little bit of ranch on.

And I do think it compliments it pretty nicely. So sweet potatoes are underrated. What do you like better, a sweet potato or a potato? If you're going to have them just basically plain. Well, just plain. If I'm having just the plain ones, I'm probably. If you say nah, I'm good with the plain ones. If I'm going just straight up plain, I'd pick a sweet potato.

But like a baked potato with sour cream and like butter and all the stuff on it, I might pick a baked potato maybe. That's pretty – because I actually do – I really like potatoes. Like mashed potatoes. Can you imagine something much harder to choke down than a completely plain plain potato with no butter no sour cream and not even a water to drink yeah with none of those things and then also make sure it's kind of warm yeah so it's like how hungry would you have to be to like really be like that's really i think that's a like next time you say like i'm starving like well there's a warm ass potato over there with nothing on it will you eat it and if you're like oh that sounds great like give it and you start shoveling it in it has

to be like it can't be sliced it has to be a baked potato variety yeah that's the real test of right wow yeah that that's a tough one yeah all right so underrated or overrated money clips. Okay. When you say money clips, do you mean a clip that literally only holds money? That's kind of what I'm thinking, but maybe there's a hybrid. Well, because my wallet, I don't even have it on me. I hate bifolds or trifolds. I hate chunky wallets. I hate having more stuff on me.

Yes, I hate having more stuff on me than I have to. I hate having more stuff on me yes I hate having more stuff on me than I have to and a big chunky bifold wallet that most of my friends you might even be in this group I don't know I think Tyler was he had an enormous he had like a wallet that had

probably had I don't know anywhere between 15 and 30 cards in it not business cards just like a variety of identification cards probably to the point where you don't even know for sure what it all is. Oh, yeah, and I think he was the first one to admit that this thing is trash. Yeah, I have a bifold, and it has too much stuff, but some of the stuff I just don't know what I would do with it

if it wasn't in my wallet. Yeah, so my solution, and this is the wallet I have, it's the best one I have found. It's made by Fossil. And the backside has like a magnetic, it's like just like a little card sleeve basically. And then it has a magnetic like clip on it that you can put money into. And so it makes this nice little compact thing that's not much bigger than if you just had a few cards stacked and the money together. So I like things really thin.

And so in that, like on my wallet I'm carrying my ID, I probably have, or I have a credit card, debit card, I have a card for my business, and I think I have my health insurance card. So I carry five cards on me. Usually I have no cash, because that's the world we live in and you kind of don't really need cash anymore. But then if I do, I have my five cards and a few bills of cash in there and that's it. A few hundreds, a few Hondos, you know, it depends on $2 bills on if the lift short money came in that week or not. But that for me is the perfect amount. Now, could I handle a money clip? I think I could handle a money clip, and I'd be cool with that.

It's just now it's a separate thing, so I've got two things to keep track of. Yeah, that's really what I was thinking is just a money clip. Because some people do. They will have, like, I guess if you carry enough cash on you, people will put it in a money clip and just, like, throw it in their front pocket. I never have that much cash on me, so I don't do that. But I do think a money clip is probably underrated because I think a lot of guys carry way more than they need to in their wallets.

I feel like most people wouldn't. They'd be like, oh, you're right, but I'm still going to still do it. And it's one of those weird exercises where you look at it and it's like, well, do you really need those things? Assuming you have multiple bank accounts, do you need all of the debit cards on you? Or some of those only things that you access once in a while. It's like, do you need multiple credit cards on you or like some of those only things that you access once in a while it's like do you need multiple credit cards on you all the time yeah or like do you need all of those other just random id cards from like every gym you've ever been a member of like yeah you probably have a student id and you haven't been in college for like eight years in there uh so i would i would

challenge people to maybe do some tidying up on the old wallet. Yeah. So you said underrated on the money clip. I think money clip is underrated, yeah. Last topic, underrated or overrated, Nutella. I think Nutella is. Everyone knows what Nutella is, right? Yeah, I think it's overrated. And here's, I feel like I got tricked on it right away. This was before I kind of got into fitness-ing at all.

And I remember being, I was in college, and someone was like, oh, yeah, this stuff. I'm like, what is it? It's Nutella. I had no idea what you're talking about. They're like, oh, seriously? This stuff is so good. It's just like peanut butter, but it tastes like chocolate and it's super healthy and good and all this stuff. And I was like, really?

And I got some. And I'm like, damn, this stuff is really, really tasty. It's like, how can it taste so good and have no sugar and be healthy and good for you? And then you look, it's like, no, it's not really healthy or good for you. It's basically just chocolate frosting. And then the people that like it. It's hazelnuts, right? Yeah.

To me, it's more of a chocolate flavor, though. But that's the number one ingredient. I think so. Maybe it's not even the number one ingredient. But it's not really that healthy for you at all. it's just like a chocolate spread you put on things yeah um let's let's find some quick nutrition facts on this it's uh but isn't isn't it a thing that some people tell it contains 70 saturated fat from processed sugar oh here let's just look at the actual thing nutella okay you do get 3.9 grams of protein per serving uh you also

i mean there's 20 grams of carbs per serving too it's yeah i mean you could have worse things but it's really not like this superfood or anything good but people go some people go nuts about it people do like to freak out about it because it's yeah it's like yeah you spread chocolate frosting on anything. It tastes pretty good. Yeah, exactly. I don't buy it. So already, I guess by not buying it, I'm kind of saying with my wallet that it's overrated.

I don't think we've ever had it in our house. I've had it somewhere before, but I can't even exactly remember where. Yeah, it's been a long time for me too. I wouldn't mind eating some. I wouldn't mind eating some. I like that. I don't know if you know this. This is poopy.

Someone has a bottle here. They took the Nutella label and just changed it so it says poop. And the name of the article is Five Reasons Nutella Should Be Banned. So they obviously think it's overrated. Probably more so than they even should. I'm not going to go that far. Yeah. I do like what they did there.

I'll say Nutella is overrated. Because it's poop. Poop. All right. So that is the last underrated, overrated topic. As always, you can follow along with those on Instagram this week and cast your vote if you think. If you think Tommy messed up on one of his ratings there, you have your chance. I think the Matt Damon one might have the biggest variance.

Because you said over. I think I said... Yeah, wait a second. We do like to re... Or you said under. I think I said underrated, yeah. So you think... That's how strongly I feel about it.

We do like to go... Now it is fun to say what the public is going to do. So on Matt Damon, you said underrated. What do you think the public is going to be? Actually, they might be pretty split on that one, actually. I think that one is going to be like, I don't care about this. I don't think people really dislike Mad Name. I don't think so, yeah.

I see 50-50 maybe underrated. Yeah, I'll go with that. What was number two? Money Clips? No, that was the last. Or that was before. I've already forgotten. I'll have it here, though.

Sweet Potatoes. Oh, Sweet Potatoes. And you said underrated. God, that could be. I could see that close, too. Yeah, that one's pretty here, though. Sweet potatoes. Oh, sweet potatoes. And you said underrated. God, that could be. I could see that close, too. Yeah, that one's pretty close, too. Because these are things people won't have opinions on. Yeah.

And then money clips. Money clips. You said underrated. I think they're underrated. People are probably going to say overrated. If I were to guess, I would say the populace will say overrated. Just because they don't have them. Right, exactly.

They're going to say overrated. Yeah, yeah. And then the last one, Nutella, you said overrated say the populace will say overrated. Just because they don't have them. Right, exactly. So they're going to say overrated. Yeah, yeah. And then the last one, Nutella, you said? Overrated. I think people will say overrated. I think so, too. Some people are going to love it and be like, way underrated. But I think the best one, because it's rated so highly amongst some people, that's immediately where it's like, well, it's overrated.

Yep, yep. That's easy. Yeah, that's an easy one there. Okay. Yeah, that's an easy one there. Okay, we'll see how your predictions were, or how your answers were in comparison to the popular opinion, and we'll also hear how our predictions of the popular opinion were. So many different ways we can analyze over and under now. It's a real statistical brain buster.

That's it for this episode. I think it was 164 so yeah we'll be back in the saddle here for 165 coming up soon um as of the time you're hearing this the the new shirt is is available that new new so what is we don't have it here in front of us we don't because we're so far ahead of time here yeah which uh the jefferson deadlift shirt i think has taken the world by storm uh sumo and conventional is no longer allowed in any powerlifting meet. If the whole marketing plan worked, we've completely outlawed any deadlifting that's not Jefferson. Yes.

And we are now in a new world. The shirt's pretty sweet. The shirt's very sweet. We still haven't held it in our hands. We know what it looks like, and it's on the black. Barring any major production catastrophe or shipping catastrophe, they look incredible. Yeah. Go to our site if you haven't seen it yet, but it's a black tee with the white, our Jefferson

Deadlift logo on it. It's awesome. He is wearing a Lyft logo. Thomas Jefferson doing a Jefferson Deadlift to 1,776 pounds. A lot of little Masonomics tie-ins in there. It's just the artwork is second to none. The back of the shirt has a pretty cool Masanomics-branded plate on the back, which is also really cool.

Yeah, it's a really nice piece of apparel. A little change of pace for us, too, so I'm excited about this one. So go and buy as many of those as you can. Maybe there's none available. I don't know. Maybe it just sold, like, insanely quick, which I could see happening. It could have, yeah. This is your last fair warning to go get one while you still can.

And then you can buy all that other stuff. And also, if you do buy that shirt, make sure you do a Jefferson deadlift in it. Yes. We want to start reposting some of these. So this will be your chance to get reposted. I mean can do anything in it and yeah anything is fine but prefer like the coolest thing is do it jefferson yeah and preferably would be so we can see the shirt too also act like all other deadlifts suck yeah you have to act like you're superior to any peasant that's doing a regular deadlift. That's cheating. Yeah. Low-life scumbags that don't Jefferson deadlift.

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