Massenomics Podcast - Ep.170: When Instagram Goes Down

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

What happens when Instagram goes down? And what are the powers that be up to that causes a crash like that? We also talk a little about our new studio, and some new designs that we just released.

Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. All right, welcome everyone to episode 170 of the massonomics podcast, the world's strongest podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing. We're in the brand new studio here today. Never before recorded right here. Makeshift studio at that. Yeah. I don't want to point out any flaws, but you might detect a slight

echo because we are in a bit of an empty room. We'll get that figured out as things go. I literally had to set this up minutes before you showed up, Tanner, just because, you know, my life's been a war zone for the last week. On video here, they probably won't detect too much of a difference. Yeah, video looks probably identical. It's a different color wall in the background. But besides that, you know, it's the same old massonomics guys you've come to know and love so you live in a different house now though than you did uh the last time we recorded the house is different that is correct how does that feel feels pretty good

you know um it wasn't a downgrade and it wasn't a lateral move so it was definitely an upgrade and uh i've only got to say i don't know i kind of missed your old house there's nothing wrong with the old house at all but this is just definite upgrade yeah um you know i've only got to spend two nights but both nights have been great so far so i'm looking forward to uh to many more how was the moving process so far moving was not terrible we had at least it was like 90 degrees and really hot. That actually wasn't. Or really humid, I mean. Yeah, it was 90 plus degrees and like 70% humidity both days. Just the hottest days we've had this year by far. And not ideal for moving, but you just start early in the morning where it's slightly more bearable.

And we had a bunch of people to help too. So that always, when you can distribute the workload a little more more evenly it makes it easier for everyone so yeah that uh that was did you have to get everyone a pizza afterward well that's kind of the customer we actually started so early in the morning that all of the people that came to help i it was 10 30 i'm like ah i guess you guys are done i'm like i feel bad not supplying food but also it's 10 30 so like supplying pizza like we had breakfast ready yeah like well we have like donuts and random shit like that and i don't know i don't think anyone's pizza or lunch at 10 30 so i guess i'll get you guys another time like so i have a few ious flowing out there pizza ious it's ious why is pizza like it'd be like you helped me move you get a pizza

it's just one of those foods that's hard to turn down. I don't think everyone's like, well, I had pizza yesterday. You're just like, oh, yeah, okay. There's cheese and stuff on it, so I can tolerate that. But, yeah, so there's some IOUs floating out there. Most importantly, though, you did get all the podcast stuff moved. Yeah, there was a bit of an emergency before you came. I was plugging in cords and realized I can't hear anything because there's only, if you look at, I don't know if all podcast setups are like this but ours there's only uh

a thousand plugs to put this thing in and i did this when i was setting up i'm like i remember the first time we moved this we took a photo of it because there's a chance we could mess this up and i unplugged like two things i'm like oh shit i better take a photo of this yeah but those two things were the only two things i didn't know where they went so i went back and looked i'm like oh i better take a photo of this yeah but those two things were the only two things i didn't know where they went so i went back and looked i'm like yep they're not in the photo and i just played the guessing game of just put it in all of the holes until you hear a sound and then finally the uh was it this one or well yeah there's the microphone they can tell what i'm pointing there's the headphone one here yeah to me if i want to hear headphones i put the cord in the jack that says headphones uh-huh i remember we did this the last time too that's wrong you put it in the

headphone amp over here okay and i don't know if there's a way to like rig it up where that's not necessary but there's also over 50 dials on this i think we know what two of them do yeah volume up and volume down for me and you i don't i actually don't know it because the sound's never been an issue. It's just work, so we don't have to worry about anything else. That's podcast audio 101. Maybe even what's less than 101 if you're remedial podcast audio. It's definitely the law of diminishing returns here where as long as it doesn't sound shitty,

I don't think anyone really notices or cares if you're using uh you know a hundred dollar setup or a multi-thousand dollar setup i really don't think people notice as long as it's not shitty i don't think people are coming up to us like to have the studio quality audio anyways like that's not the main drawing factor if they they want the audio quality better just buy a lot of massonomic stuff that. That's right. We could buy newer. We probably wouldn't buy newer stuff, but we could if you bought a ton of stuff from us. But realistically, we probably wouldn't invest it on that.

No, probably not. I think we could think of a better spot for it than that. Like our pockets? Yeah. That's right. Speaking of Mastinomics stuff, though, we did drop a new sticker pack, as long as we're talking about massonomic stuff that you can buy.

And, uh, customarily our sticker packs are three stickers. Yep. Always in threes. Yep. Uh, and you get three of each when you order the pack and we didn't

disappoint. We did the same thing again. So we dropped three new stickers and can anyone out there guess what they are? No, I'm sure everyone's going crazy right now pick me pick me uh i'll tell you in case you don't know one is the jefferson deadlift sticker and i am if you're watching on youtube i'm holding this up not sure how big this is i'm just thinking i'm not sure people see that well tommy's wearing the jefferson deadlift shirt and if you follow us

you know what the jefferson Deadlift logo looks like anyways. The other one is our Deadlifter logo. King of lifts. Same way, if you follow us, you know what that looks like too. The third one is something pretty special, though. This is kind of a new thing for us. You could say the Easter egg is making a second appearance here. We referred to this last week in our new flag that we have.

We kind of hinted at it, and this week we'll just show you. It's our Don't Curl and Me design. And it's nice. It is nice. It's our play on the Gadsden flag. It really is just a perfectly little miniature flag. And actually, what? I took the exact flag and just shrunk it down until it fit on a sticker.

And this is what you get. I had to throw one of these on one of the racks at the gym. Just so people know. It belongs there. Yeah. I do like it, though. So that's our new sticker pack. The Deadlifter, the Jefferson Deadlift, and the Don't Curl in Me.

You're going to want that one. As long as we're talking about the Don't Curl me we do have the flag it matches this it's the uh uh gadston flag if you don't know what the gadston flag in is it's the rattlesnake flag that says don't tread on me it's and it's yellow yeah it's yellow yeah the rattlesnake sitting on the green grass and it says don't tread on me well we we went ahead and did the uh don't curl on don't curl in me and i like it better i think we we we improved on the original it's a real battle cry for this generation when i think about it you know this is we we really went political on this one yeah we did uh just stay tuned for our hot takes on a few other things

but i think last week we hinted at uh did we say the flag was in the store did we just kind of hint at it i can't even i think we said there is a flag so yeah we do have actually we do have the full-size flag of this yeah three foot by five foot the flags look really good they do we have one you got the one up in the gym and i'm like man this thing belongs in every gym in the country. Like, that should just be like a requirement by law that if you're opening a gym and a bank sees that, that you're not approved for a loan until they know that. Be like, oh, no, you don't have the don't curl in me flag up.

Oh, sorry. We did have a couple people find the Easter egg this last week, and we've shipped a few out. But now the cat's really going to be out of the bag. Well, and so now we should admit that, so you guys are probably hearing this, you know, if you're one of the loyal first commenters on YouTube, it's a Sunday, everyone else it's Monday or even later in the week. But I'm not sure if those guys actually watch the podcast. I think they just go into, oh, I think they all watch it eventually, but I don't believe that they're all watching it.

Well, I mean, based on when the comments come, it's not physically possible to be listening to this part of the conversation. But very shortly, these shirts will be popping up in the store too. And it's going to be a really awesome shirt. I'm excited for these. The shirt is yellow, but it's not necessarily this. What would you call this yellow? This is just like almost like bright. It's just bright yellow almost like school

bus yellow yeah yeah um it's just yellow yellow yellow but the it's maybe not the shirt that a lot of guys especially would want to be wearing around so this caught this bright bright yellow mustard yellow yeah or when i say like your your hot dog yellow yeah yeah uh what's french's french's yes yes, yes. It's the color of a French's. We toned down the yellow a little bit, so it's going a little more towards the gold side. I think it makes it a more fashionable piece, and we use that for the shirts.

Yeah, it's definitely high fashion. Yeah, I mean, you still, you've got a different colored shirt on, which I think that's part of what made the lift shirt and the bench shirts and those ones so great is because there's not a ton of, especially in the lifting world, blue shirts out there. There's a lot of black. I think we have the entire gamut of blue shirts about covered now. I think we cornered the market in lifting blue shirts.

Yeah, so now we're taking our talents into the yellow territory. We're starting with more of a golden-y mustard-type color. The nuances of the Don't Curl in Me curl in me design though one not quite as subtle the this is looks the the rack is like a monster rack i would call it like kind of like rogues monster racks and uh across the top it has uh the massonomics the massonomics nameplate yeah nameplate on it even more of a hidden gem in there if you look really close. And it's hard to see on the sticker. It's hard to tell on the sticker.

You can tell on the flag. But the plates on the inside are Masonomics-branded plates. They must be the same plates that Jefferson used on his Jefferson Bedley shirt. Yes. So, yeah, there's a few little details in there there are detail-oriented people i mean to really see him you should just get the flag so you can see it up and it and it's sitting on the uh uh patch of grass just like the rattlesnake is yeah yeah well naturally funny thing i have squatted like in something that looks just like this before in that strong man yeah yeah

where i've got where i i have a picture of me that quite literally looks like I'm going ass to grass, where I'm squatting out of a rack just like this in the grass. But it just seems funny to think, but I have actually done that. You've done the real deal. And if only we had a don't curl in me flag back at that point in time to throw on there. We were just living, learning. Your lifting was ahead of its time. That's true.

And also, we're enjoying a refreshing Sam 76. In honor of Fourth Independence Day weekend here. The holiday, yeah. Sam 76, it's my new favorite IPA. It does say refreshing lager in the can. I would agree with that statement. Would you agree that it's a refreshing IPA? I also wouldn't disagree with that statement ipa is a

word that i use for any beer that i've been drinking lately anything that is alcoholic in nature i just feel like it makes me sound cooler oh leah got a snap from you the other day my wife from a snap from tanner i think it was me holding a beer and tanner goes oh that's my favorite yeah did she what did she think it was it was an ultra yeah it was yeah we were on a boat and all they had was ultra and so I had one yeah I don't care yeah and yeah Tanner flies back oh my favorite IPA and he was like does he think that's an IPA or does he not know what you're holding I'm like ah it's kind of hard to explain Tanner just calls everything yeah every beer is an IPA because it makes me feel hip. A little more elite than everyone else above all the commoners.

Speaking of that, as I'm holding my hand too, it's also this IPA that I'm drinking is wrapped in the Navy Blue Lift Koozie, which we just got restocked so you can get those again. They were almost gone. The world had such a high demand for them. We brought them back. We do still, for all you summertime outdoor drinkers, we have the Navy Blue Lift Koozie.

We also have the Red Deadlifter Koozie, both of them. I'm going to spend most of this episode just talking in full detail about everything we have for sale. We wrapped up the first 12 minutes of promotional material. All right, let's go on to segment two. It's also how we choose to end the podcast. So wrapped in, you know,

it's like a lot of podcasts to listen to. They wrap it in ads on both sides. But see, we're doing it in a way that people listening, they don't even know

that they just got advertised to. Oh, is that an ad? Like, is that an organic conversation? Yeah, they're onto some advanced methods of advertising here. So, all right, Tanner.

I'm looking at our show list here. We've talked about the Don't Curl on Me shirt. We've talked about the move. Next up on the list, we have the Arnold booth. Ah, yes. One of the most exciting things. And everyone's thinking, the Arnold? That's like a year away, isn't it?

We barely just got unpacked from the last one. Didn't you do an arnold recap episode and you're not completely wrong that wasn't too long ago but that's the way we do things we talk about them for a few weeks in advance talk about them for a few weeks after they're over you do the lead up yeah then the recap and then you got to start with the lead up again already yeah so you'll really have to do like four or five different types of episodes over the course of a year. We kind of do have a cyclical thing where we can kind of just – It is a little bit of a cyclical business. I mean, if you took a step back from almost anything in sports, you could say the same thing. Football season is going to be starting pretty soon, so it's going to be preseason talk.

Then it's early season talk and who's out of the playoffs. We just got through with the draft. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's all right. We're in the thick of it. And now all of a sudden we're looking at Super Bowl champions. So it's – you know,'s out of the playoffs. We just got through with the draft. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's all right. We're in the thick of it. And now all of a sudden we're looking at the Super Bowl champions. So it's, you know, everyone does it. Yeah.

And powerlifting and strongman are almost sports too. So you can almost talk about it. They're borderline sports. Yes, they are. But no, so the Arnold booth. I guess the news is we got the booth we wanted, the booth we needed. The booth of our dreams. Yeah, it is.

For anyone that was there last year, this probably doesn't apply to a ton of people listening, but we did have quite a few people that come up and said they listened to the podcast. So there are some people listening that apparently go to the Arnold. We're going to be really close to where we were last year. We're just going to be two booths down. We're going to be in that same aisle, the 500 aisle. But this year we're in a corner spot. Yeah.

So we're almost across from Live Large this year. Yes. And I think a lot of people would be like, okay, I remember where Live Large was. I remember where Mastonomics was. If you just say we're close to Live Large yes almost in front of them i think that might where or lift evil last year will be directly behind where lift evil was and i hope frank goes for that same spot and we can be right next right next to him there like the bermuda triangle i mean you could send people there and they might disappear. They'd certainly come back broke.

It's the Bermuda Triangle for wallets. My money all disappeared. I don't even know what happened there. Yeah, it is a safe bet. But we're making it more convenient for the shoppers, what we're doing. And also more convenient for us to be able to get to the bathroom. Oh, God, yeah. That is.

That 20 feet right there was maybe the toughest 20 feet in the business although the problem uh that i was thinking about is we probably made it easier for people to people like to try to weasel like into your booth you know we almost made it an easier safe spot we might have to like arrange the tables in such a way that there is no pathway in and we we have to move them in order to get out or we could like hire a bodyguard to put a red tape around our whole booth or the the rope yeah yeah only select people are cleared past the rope to buy things yeah that i think that kind of says more to our clientele you know it's a it's a higher class of people that's to get in the club and then the vip section is just where the lift shorts are you have to pay

to even yeah you have to look at the way to yeah yeah yeah that's kind of how it goes it's kind of like a bottle service type thing yeah i do would really like to get a glass case for the lift shorts out on the table this year that could be done i think yeah we'll have to do some planning but i think we can come up with something yeah i mean we're really what's going to come down to is we could absolutely do it it's just going to be do we have room to fit it for transportation? Yeah. That is the thing. Like, can we literally fit a glass case in the vehicle?

We have no shortage of ideas. It's an actual logistics issue at this point. Yeah. So we only have six more months, nine more months to plan that out. But so our booth is five 24. That's the number. If you want to write that down, we're, I think we're 245 days away. So start your planning now.

It sounds so insane when you say that. That's actually how far it is away. But to us, it is already. We're kind of like, oh, I guess we got to start thinking about, you know. It's so far away, but yet it really won't be. It'll be around the corner. And like Nick. Nick's at Live Large.

They got their booth already you know uh so with getting of the booth i uh woke up so the registration for the booth opened up at midnight july 1st and we really wanted this booth we because we liked the aisle that we're in last year they'll figure the only thing we could do to make it better was to get the corner the only thing that could be better than that is probably to have two booth spaces. But then we're talking about dropping double the money as before. And it's kind of, yeah, it would be great. I just don't know that we want to spend that much money. So we kind of decided not to. But so we knew we wanted this corner.

So I had to set an alarm to wake up at midnight because i do not just stay up until midnight like that's not gonna happen so i got two or three hours of sleep in and woke up at midnight and got in there and i think it was probably like by 1202 or 1203 i had our spot, and within the next day, we got confirmation that we did get that spot. And I talked to Nick the next day as soon as we got confirmation, and he said he got his too. And he was excited about that because he gets that corner spot kind of right by us also, and he said he was on there by 1202 also. That's how you have to do it.

If anyone's watching the podcast i just got up i literally thought i forgot to turn on the video uh turns out it was a false alarm i did turn on the video so did you see how i kept going that you're just freestyling that comes from 170 episodes of experience there like any other person the people just listening never even knew that you were gone no and then i couldn't find my headphones. I mean, it was almost a disaster here. It was good that you got back when you did, though. Yeah, you did finish the story. Yeah, I mean, that is what goes into getting an Arnold booth,

or at least getting the one you want. Yeah, but I made the comment to you. I'm surprised. I know I could list off 20, 30, 40 companies that I know are going to be there and that I know that they know that they're going to be there. And the location is important. We've talked about this with Nick before. He agrees the location of your booth is very important.

Yes. I talked to Iron and Stone. Do you remember? They talked about their location last year. They were by the big Rogue setup in just kind of like a partial aisle where they said there's only like three booths there and they thought that that would be really advantageous to be in that spot which i i could yeah i could understand that argument but ultimately they felt like it sucked because people just didn't there wasn't didn't treat it like it was a

an aisle to go down because there were so few booths in that area um but yeah so that's why location man it matters so much and that's why i woke up at midnight to do it i was but but i guess my my point there i got got sidetracked but i can't believe how many of those companies that are out there that don't have theirs yet yeah that don't select it early i almost wonder though like is there just a rule like with yarnels areels, where they're like, well, Animal gets this booth no matter what, so we're not going to let someone take this whole area? If you're like, we're just booth purchasers in our 10x10 space or our 10x20. They're like major exhibitors.

Yeah, if you're these other classifications, it was open earlier. So I think, because like Rogue already has theirs, and I saw Animal, it didn't say their name, but it did say On Hold. That makes more sense. So I do think those places do just get theirs. Someone probably calls them and is like, hey, is this the spot you guys are going to? That makes more sense. I was kind of wondering, do they go through the same free-for-all process?

Yeah. I think if you're anything above the 20 by 10. Yeah, the little guy. I don't, I don't mind saying the prices to get a double booth is $5,000. Like to put that in perspective for people, a 10 foot by 20 foot is five grand. A lot of t-shirts just to break even. Yeah. I mean, and break even isn't $5,000.

No, like you have to have profit on your shirts that you probably have to sell $10,000 just as a very simple. And we're talking hotels and transportations. So it's like you start to see like, damn. You have to sell $15,000 worth of shirts to have a chance. You can even think that it's even remotely worth it. And even then you might think twice about it. And even then it's like, oh, did I just volunteer all of our time to do that?

Yeah, so that's where you start to really put these things into perspective of what is the value behind it. So our spot is the exact same size as what we had last year. It's just that we are on a corner. That is a $500 premium for that. But we felt like that was worth it for a number of reasons. But biggest is probably it's just going to be easier to see us. For the exact

location that we're at when you walk in we're not that far from entry doors if we uh position our stuff correctly it should be a beacon of yeah it'd be like an oasis in the desert of shit it's like oh my god those guys with all those beer parodies are back and they've got a yellow shirt this year holy shit flip the game on his head yeah i knew they could do blue but they just did yellow completely changed colors on me the hell will they think of next just what we do crazy take to the fitness industry. Yeah. Is that everything we know about the Arnold booth at this point, Tanner? You're not withholding any top secret information?

No, I don't know otherwise of the Arnold. I think that's about all I know. Okay. I don't know too much else about it yet. We are pretty early, but we'll keep you guys informed as we know more. We have 240-some more days to keep you guys posted. Larry Wheels tore his bicep. That actually, well, that's not directly Arnold-related, but, I mean, it is noteworthy.

Because I think he might have competed at the amateur Arnold this year. Do you think that was the plan? I think maybe. I don't know. Maybe not. But I know last year he would have if he could have qualified. Yeah. I'm sure it could have happened.

But Larry tearing his bicep, I don't know if it's just because of how lean he is and the way he looks. But every time I saw him do a stone or clean an axle or flip a tire, I always thought, man, I can't believe he's not tearing his bicep. Well, I think part of it is because, yeah, his bicep was so huge. Right. Like you can literally see his every part of his bicep. There's I think part of it is because, yeah, his biceps were so huge. Right, like you can literally see his, every part of his bicep. There's no fat to keep that thing protected. Like it's just hanging on by a thread. Yeah. Or whatever Larry has.

Yeah. But did you see Larry was staying in touch with us? I did see that. Over the bicep there. He's become very close friends with us. Yeah, we were texting. Eye messaging, actually. Larry doesn't use text. texting. iMessaging, actually. Larry doesn't use text.

He doesn't screw with something like that. Yeah, he uses his iPhone. We're kind of jumping around here, but that jumps into best comment of the week. Oh, best comment of the week in the middle of the podcast. Yeah, we'll throw best comment of the week. We'll wrap it right into this.

We'd shared the iMessage conversation the screenshot of the yeah very legit Larry conversation yes which uh to me I would think anyone that follows us understands that there was probably no doubt to its legitimacy yeah that it was 100 legit and uh let let me read the comment worst fake text message i've ever seen larry don't larry don't even follow you and on iphones it doesn't say contact in the top right when you're texting someone oh so they busted us yeah there's some detective yeah that's really onto us that's what i and i can't remember what I said, but I said something like, oh, shit, you caught us good. Don't tell our followers. But I assume our followers knew that there might have been some customization

made on that. You never know. You never know. But Larry did say he really likes some Asinomics verses, too. Well, he has repulsed it. Yeah. Do you think? Yeah, the verse, yeah verses too well he has repulsed yeah do you think all right the yeah the verse yeah yeah he did it yeah um like larry wheels just says power and things like that in his text messages messages with his phrases yeah he's just it's who he is now he has to like keep the

gimmick up he can't talk like a normal person right. But as far as his bicep tear injury, would you guess that he's going to recover faster than a normal human being? Yeah. It's probably going to be like, oh, jeez, I forgot he tore that. It seems like that was just a week ago. First day back to stones, get a new PR. Like, well, yeah, he had like three months to recover. Of course he's going to hit a PR.

Yeah. So, yeah, we have that to look forward to now, I guess. It is a downer, though, that he tore his bicep. He was going to be competing in that Wembley Giants Live competition. Yeah, I mean, at this point, it's just like, I just want to see what is he going to do. Because he was going to be there against the best of the best, or at least really close to the best of the best, at least that top level of competition.

I think Martins is competing in that too. There you go. Martins is competing in it. So he's going against the best of the best. But now he doesn't get to. And I think everyone wants to see that. Well, just at this point, it's like turning into a freak show. It's like, where does it actually stop?

Where is the end? And is he going to go out there and get trounced by these guys? and like is he gonna go out there and get like trounced by these guys or is he gonna go out there and be like holy shit he's really close to you know like i know he's not far off yeah well i guess now we just have to wait a few months to see wait more but uh you know kind of funneling back into that now though we have a little bit of beef this week and that beef is with facebook and instagram and when i say facebook i mean the company of facebook but specifically instagram yeah and that is because again instagram is down big time down crash of the century and this is a major first world problem without a doubt i mean it's most people i've already seen memes of like the little bit

that i can get on or like when i go on the internet yeah things that aren't social media related like memes of this already it's like oh the influencers are like society their world's crumbling yeah i mean it's kind of funny for the most part i don't care at all no because i don't honestly spend that much time on instagram but um it is kind of like we can say we run a business that does funnel through Instagram. It depends on Instagram, at least to us. It does. I mean, to a good chunk. Yeah.

And that's how we communicate with you guys, you know, outside of a few comments on YouTube here and there. Yep. And maybe some, yeah, this and some comments and orders. It's a major way for us to communicate with people that like massonomics or have something to say about what we're doing. So when that goes down, it's like, oh, like that kind of does cut out our communication line. And you do realize like how hamstringed you are by the corporation of Facebook. Yeah. And we talked about it last time.

They crashed a little bit back. I don't know. Maybe it's two or three months ago. I think it was like in March. Yeah, I think you're right. It was in March. and this one was worse this one at least if you know what we post twice a day to massonomics that's our typical thing and we post uh more than that to our you know post a few times to our story every day and we basically lost um a day's worth of

interaction and like though that posting like to most people you just think I was just posting on on Instagram you're trying to get likes and followers and stuff like that but the reality of it is those posts lead to sales like directly or sometimes indirectly actually and yeah like and I even me even a year ago I would have said well it's down what's it matter but really the more accurate way to describe this would be we own a business on a street in town and we went into business that day opened up the shop and the city came in and said ah streets closed water lane water main break yeah and actually no one like no cars no pedestrian no traffic at all are allowed you're like well why am i open yeah

no one can buy anything if they want to i mean it's not quite it's not quite that severe but that is a pretty actually accurate representation of what happens i guess if if you had like uh three walkways to get to your business and two and one of them yeah and if the the biggest one the main one they say no this one's closed someone could still get in the back if they kind of know you're there and like know how to get to that parking lot right they could get there that's kind of what it's like as far as funneling uh people to our online website they're like oh instagram's gone so yeah and i don't think we're alone in that especially like in the fitness industry itself or power lifting whatever you call this i don't think we're unique in our i think it's a fairly common you know route of acquisition for people so yeah uh yeah we definitely notice

when this happens yeah and then all of a sudden all this hard work we put into trying to create something funny or entertaining for you guys it's like basically was a waste at this point you know yeah what uh what do you think more maybe most, what do you think they were up to? Like anytime anything happens with them, I'm like, ah, you're up. You're changing something, and it's not going to be for the better. Yeah. I don't know if you've noticed, but on Facebook, it's really interesting right now. And I don't think this is hitting all users.

So some people listening might have noticed this. But on Facebook, and it just so happens that also for my business, part of my business helps with some marketing things. It just so happened that I literally had things that had to happen on Facebook today. And it was the worst day to try and be doing these things for other businesses. But you got to kind of try to power through and hope for the best. But for me, photos across the board did not load. Right. But what was really interesting is on those photos there was like the and that was like facebook's computers basically saying what it thinks it reads probably a person

yeah so you see like you see things like three people smiling probably outside yeah this is this is like the code to the matrix this is how facebook sees the world yeah and like you're like the curtain's kind of being peeled back and it's like i don't know that's like it's kind of cool but also that's kind of creepy that that's as simple as the world is getting down to like computers and yeah i don't know does facebook feed that back in for how they determine what ads you see because i saw some it was like uh probably selfie grinning yeah you know like it's like oh geez yeah and that's like computers just like, all right,

yep. We got these people. And then also like a lot of times it knows probably this person because it can, you know, all the facial recognition data in the world basically. So, um,

yeah, our Facebook overlords are just screwing us over now. I always looking at it from an Instagram business perspective. I always assume they're, they're changing some algorithms to make it even harder to reach people. And also, yeah. And I'm, uh, uh, without paying harder to reach people organically. Yeah.

And I'm, I'm not, uh, I keep enough of an eye on Facebook to be like, uh, I know they're up to no good all the time, so I'll keep a pulse on it, but I'm not a fan of them by any means. But, um, like one of their models is like i can't even remember what it it's something like uh like work fast you know break things and fix them later or whatever and it's like yeah now they're definitely breaking things yeah they're doing something behind the scenes like i don't think this was purely an accident and even if it i mean they would never admit to it they'd be like oh yeah something went wrong yeah it's like no because

they're doing something crazy right we're never gonna know about it but right you know they're implementing wave three of tracking you everywhere you go or yeah whatever crazy scheme they got next right did you see tanner they also i mean we're getting into our tech segment i guess facebook was trying to introduce a currency as well like a uh cryptocurrency base i mean cryptocurrency with the idea of cryptocurrency, it's like, it's decentralized. This won't really be decentralized because Facebook is central.

Right. Right. Um, yeah, they're trying to do that too. So it's getting kind of creepy because Facebook would know basically your whereabouts, everything about you and also the entirety of your spending habits.

So I think people are getting, I don't see that as like, like, well, here's the thing though. In America, people are a little aware of, you know, Facebook is maybe not the most by the book company.

Right. But in like third world companies, third world countries, a lot of people just refer to the internet. When they say the internet, they're talking about Facebook because their Facebook just comes on phones like they don't have internet browsers like when you look for things they just go to facebook and so it's like facebook at this point is almost just like running the the greater

network of knowledge for these people in these countries it's kind of creepy like you can even read i mean if you really want to get into it also a shame it is also a shame but there's i mean there's whole things of things that have gone on in countries because people say Facebook allows these things to be posted. And I'm not going to get into it. But, yeah, if you do some research, there's some crazy stuff that has happened because of just Facebook being Facebook. So, yeah, we got that to look forward to. I don't like that really. I guess I'm not a fan of my initial thoughts.

The other thing is related to podcasting and us having a podcast. Apple Podcasts is changing their categories. They're adding a whole bunch of new categories and removing some old categories. And I'm not even positive, but I think right now, if I'm guessing, we're in the fitness and nutrition category under health. And that's going away. That whole category is going away? That category is splitting to a fitness or nutrition. Okay.

And that makes way more sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. Because although they do go together, they're not like one is always hand in hand with the other. And I guess as far as we're concerned, we're much more fitness than we are nutrition. Like I would say our nutrition is essentially non-existent. would also make the fitness also isn't a great word fitness isn't

an accurate representation they're probably not going to have a power lifting strong man category for us probably not i mean if they did don't make that category like there would be a lot of podcasts oh i mean yeah there would be more helpful for the people finding those yes like but i i wouldn't be and i'd like it because we could actually stand a chance to be uh have a rating on our on a spot in that yeah the world yeah so i don't know if if they if apple podcast gives us a call and says ah you're uh say listen we've been watching the charts we want to feature you yeah the next time we do a presentation on stage, we want your album art in the background. And we'll say, okay.

A modest fee will allow it. Does anyone use the browse feature in Apple Podcasts where you can see what's trending and stuff like that? Someone has to, I would assume. Right? Someone has to do those. I suppose. I mean, I'm just saying I don't.

Like, I didn't even realize i mean i suppose i knew it was there but until i looked into this thing i was like oh i wonder if people use this i think a lot of those things just kind of turn into the set it and forget it yeah thing right and you just go along with your life and right whatever happens um i don't know that we're doing this segment today but in uh i've got a fitness's finest for you. Did you see the new product that Mark Bell and company were coming out with? I think I ran across this thing. I think some people were very curious about it too.

The strong head sleeve. I mean, what will Mark think of next? They say it's the strongest and only head sleeve on the market. I suppose those two, by being the only, by default, are the strongest. Yeah, I guess so. But I guess those statements aren't wrong. Yeah. And it's IPF approved, too.

That's the most important thing is anytime you make anything neoprene, if you can put an IPF approved stamp on it you know it's quality and this model that they found to uh to show off the new head sleeve looks really excited about yeah yeah in case you guys don't know what we're talking about go on our instagram and look for posts from like the last week of june um and you'll find the strong head sleeve and it's a it's a really interesting product line i was glad that Mark decided to let us be one of the first to try it out. To really release it to the public. Yeah.

Yeah, I think there were some questions in there. Some people wanted to know what the benefit of a head sleeve was. Multiple people wanted to know what the benefit was. Tanner, I mean, Mark gave the promotional information to you, so I believe you explained it best. Yeah, I want to find actually what the – Yeah, you don't want to say this wrong. explained it best yeah i want to find exactly actually yeah you don't want to say this wrong no i i want to i want to read actually what the uh the strong head sleeve provides warmth and

support in more dynamic movements it can be worn for individual lifts or during your entire workout wow that is incredibly insightful yeah like could you could there be a better description that doesn't actually tell you anything yeah No, there couldn't be. Because that is an actual description of things. Is that for their sleeves? That's for something. How could you say so much and say so little? Because I remember the first time reading it, I'm like, well, I think that answers the question.

But also, I don't know if that actually told me anything. Be like, someone that did think it was real and i responded that and they're like oh okay thanks and i'm like oh what do you think you just got told it's like well they did say some words they sound somewhat intelligent so i guess like i would was there something in there about provides something for unilateral movements too do i remember seeing something like that there may have been. I answered several questions on this because many people wanted to know what it was for. Yeah, someone said thank you so much with the thumbs up after it.

Someone did ask, though, where is that at? I lost. Oh, is it IPF approved? Yeah. It's right there. It says it's IPF approved? Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's right there. It says it's IPF approved. So, yeah, if anyone gets their hands on a slingshot strong head sleeve. Yeah, let us know.

Yeah, we want to hear some reviews out there. Yeah. But, yeah, just look for our post. It's interesting. Like, the way it's designed, you can use it, though, for a single lift or for your entire workout. Yeah, you don't have to take it off between lifts. You can wear it for warmth and compression. Yeah.

And the model looks very comfortable in it, too. Yeah, it does. But, yeah, I'm expecting them to ship a lot of those over the coming years. Yes. Oh, another thing, as long as we're just reviewing our Instagram and we can review is dave tate shout uh gave massonomics a shout out this week and i thought that was really cool yeah this was a good one and i he was just uh going in depth talking about the rookie card that we made for him and everyone wanted to know why the hell he had a 400 pound bench when a raw bench when he was 15 and like

his squat was 350 and his deadlift was 350 but but yet he had a 400-pound raw bench. So he's kind of talking about that. But he does specifically name Masonomics in there. And I was telling Tommy before we recorded, it doesn't happen very often anymore that I'm like, oh, this person was talking about us. That's really cool. Someone just refers to Masonomics, says the name correctly, and then just talks to it like, yeah, people know Masonomics. You know what we're talking about. Right.

And with Dave talking about that, I was like, that's really cool because Dave, you know, reading when I first got into lifting, you know, reading testosterone nation or just knowing about elite FTS, he was one of the first people I probably knew about that power lifted or that talked about power lifting. And it's like, huh huh that guy knows what we're doing now like oh that's pretty cool like if we met like going forward for the like foreseeable future yeah if we met that guy and said hey he wouldn't be like what yeah he might need a quick

refresher yeah it wouldn't be completely like oh we made the rookie card he'd be like oh yeah and i do like it he referred to it as the tricep picture. Yeah. Because that's all anyone could say is how ridiculous that was. A 15-year-old's tricep that looks like it's an abnormal growth coming off the back of their arm. Yeah. Hey, that's what we're all going for, though. Yeah, that's true.

Tanner, I'm looking at the list here. Oh, of course. I'm saying that because we keep our show notes in a program called Asana, which is also run by Facebook. And I don't know if you knew that, Tanner. They also run this program. Oh, really? And, of course, that quit working on us now, too.

Go figure. The show notes are out the window. Oh, okay, we recovered them, guys. It's OK. It's OK. Well, this is usually the day of the week that we put out the over on the prior weeks over under out on the Instagram story for people to vote on them and to see how you you did, you know, see how you answered compared to the people. We do have answers for that. Unfortunately, they're way lower than normal because instagram

just didn't work today but we do still have enough to make some yeah so yeah usually these don't drastically change once they start to fluctuate one way that's once you get 10 people yeah so we've captured the group right uh so fireworks do you remember what you said about fireworks i think i said they were underrated yeah the populace went against you they said 65 overrated well and they might be thinking of fireworks from a going to a firework show and that is the picture i use is kind of like you know i was framing it from a launching them yourself yeah i don't think a lot of people know that having a bottle rocket fight yeah i don't think people know the joy with firing a bottle rocket out of your own hand or running around with an

artillery shell shooting it. So I'm just going to give people the benefit of the doubt on that one. Friends, 72% overrated. So I know you said overrated. Not much different there. Coffee, I think you said overrated maybe. The people said 60% underrated. The people really

do like their coffee. Coffee is still not rated highly enough no i guess not yeah fair enough uh airplane mode on an airplane you said underrated they said 68 percent overrated i guess i only care about safety but wait a second there was also a twitter comment to us really a? A Twitter comment. Wow. Someone was tweeting us about this. We're coming into new social networks here. We do have Twitter for anyone that's interested. We have it.

Yeah. That's about where it ends. Where it starts and where it ends. The only thing that you'll see on there is Instagram automatically. Reposting. Yeah. But this is from Ben Force, and he said, At Massanomics, airplane mode isn't required for the safety of the aircraft.

It's required because of how fast you switch between cell towers in flight. The cell networks aren't designed to handle it. Great show. I don't know if that's correct, but that's what Ben Force said. I guess I don't know either. Yeah. There's no way we would ever have enough information to dispute that, so I guess we'll have to leave it at that.

Yep. So thank you, Ben Force. Wow. May the Ben Force be with you. Now I think we should cover this week's overrated, underrated. We probably should. Just get into it. I'm going to go ahead and read the rules because just people bitch if I don't read the rules and call me out.

It's been a while. It has been a while. Yeah. I can't stand getting rules and called me out. It's been a while. It has been a while. I can't stand getting called out that much. It just offends me even if it's a joke. Underrated or overrated consists of lightning round questions

asked by myself to Tommy. The questions come from a variety of topics including but not limited to pop culture, current events, food, and technology. There are also lifting related topics sprinkled in. Very rarely I also lifting related topics sprinkled in uh very rarely i would add they're sprinkled in it's important to also or it's important to remember that the questions are in fact lightning round uh the questions get asked quickly but the answers are

not necessarily tommy has his druthers when it comes to the length of this length of his answers what are druthers you ask we don't know but we'll get to that more later today as a matter of fact all that being said there does have to be a final answer yes that is this initial issue of overrated or underrated must be clearly resolved in the end due to demand we've added a faq section we're not reading that today but just so you know you can ask us questions if you would like, and we will come up with answers. Topic number one, overrated or underrated, Grey Goose Vodka. The brand Grey Goose. It's been actually quite a while since I've had Grey Goose, so that makes it tough to actually have valid input on it.

I don't even really remember seeing Grey Goose. Like if you said maybe something like Ciroc, who I feel like I actually see advertisements for, and they're in that premium sector. Grey Goose is still probably overrated, really. I think Grey Goose is still overrated. I'm totally fine. For me, when it comes to vodka there is a

definite line Between the cheapest and not the cheapest I think everyone the cheapest alcohols tend to be regional Here our cheapest are like Burnett's and Phillips. Yeah what about McCormick's isn't that? McCormick yeah Yeah there's like

Karkov and things too. I know you can find Karkv for like, occasionally get like a 1.75 liter for like $11 or $12 or something like a crazy good deal. But I don't think that like cheap liquor brands are like nationwide. I think they tend to be like to a local distributor or to a regional distributor.

But those, you're kind of looking at a little iffy there to me smirnoff though smirnoff is always an acceptable like you get any flavored especially in the summertime any flavored smirnoff especially if you do raspberry smirnoff you buy a bottle or cans of lemonade mix it with that oh you are set to die for oh it is really really good it's really good so if this segment if this question would have been raspberry smirnoff over i would have had to actually think hard about that one because that's the thing is like you can get you know like a liter bottle smirnoff for like i don't know 15 bucks yeah not much more expensive it's not much more basically kind of what it comes down to with vodka is does it come in a glass bottle or not?

Like once you start to get into it from plastic to a glass bottle, there is at least maybe some flavors, less of that bad vodka burn on the end and maybe more of just like an alcohol flavor or something. I still will go Grey Goose overrated. Overrated. I do like vodka as a spirit, though. You know, it's not bad i i if i had to pick a straight it's just a straight shot of something vodka would be lower on my list of what i want a straight shot of if i'm just gonna go pure liquor in that shot nothing else but uh yeah vodka it's an underrated you know calorically it's great too. Non-existent, essentially. Thor has his own. Yeah. Underrated or overrated?

Straws. This is kind of a hot topic right now. Yeah. I can, okay, with, you know, you hear in the news, paper straws are becoming more of a thing. I, the last time I was in, or most recently when I traveled, I went to Florida, what, a month and a half, two months ago? When I was in Florida, we were at a restaurant drinking out of my straw. And my wife goes, oh, paper straws. I had no idea I was even using one until she mentioned it.

Because in the Midwest, paper straws almost don't exist. People don't care about the environment here. So we're very late to that on anything. But at the time, I did not notice one bit that I was using a paper straw. As the dinner went on, I started to become more aware of it. It didn't bother me a whole lot. I was fine with it. But I'm of the mentality that, you know what, you only get one earth.

Take care of it. If they got rid of straws, I'd be like, I don't care. It's fine. If that is really what it comes down to for how you think you can handle a drink or not, whether that's soda, water, whatever, you have to have a straw, you're probably a bigger problem just with the way you think about things than plastic or paper straws. I'll say straws are overrated. Okay.

Because it was just straws, right? Just straws. It didn't say paper or plastic. I do believe straws are overrated because i never even when i get one like when you get a drink i always do the thing where you fold yeah that's all the time yeah no i yeah straw i don't care yeah yes all right underrated or overrated or overrated or underrated, using the word druthers, not facetiously. Well, I can honestly say. Actually, not facetiously wasn't really a part of the question.

I guess it's just using the word druthers. I don't ever remember in my life hearing the word druthers until the rules of over-under. So I think I have to say just based on that that the word druthers is underrated. Because it's not commonly. I would say more

on the fact that 99.9% of people don't know the word even exists. So by that nature it almost has to be underrated. I bet someone that listens to the podcast

regularly has used the word druthers. Yeah. Like since and probably incorrectly even. Do you know druthers? You said druthers. I don't know what that means but we probably should just let him go i don't want to ask because i don't want to look stupid yeah he did say druthers so we better just go with this one so yeah druthers underrated okay the last topic just there was a different last topic i just had

to bump it down to next week because I opened something up and something opened up. And I just said, oh, this has to be the last topic. It's so timely. I just saw a picture of Abby Morgan doing, I don't know if you know who that is, but this leads into it. World Cup soccer. Overrated or underrated world. And most specifically as for right now, women's World Cup soccer. Yeah.

All right. I live in the upper Midwest, which means soccer doesn't really exist here. It's a game that, like, grade school kids play. It's a game that children play, people in big cities and foreign countries. I'm not a child. I don't live in a big city, and I don't live in a foreign country. So that means soccer, it's lost on me. And I don't live in a big city and I don't live in a foreign country so that means soccer it just it's lost on me

yeah and I don't think there's anything wrong with it I get the point of a sport that like you know has the whole world and that's I think

what the amazing thing about soccer is is that like the whole world like can be in on it yeah except us pretty much except us

well except when it comes to the women's side right because aren't we competitive oh yeah yeah yeah no we are we're in the championship right now oh we are I didn're in the championship right now. Oh, we are.

I didn't even know that. I think they beat Great Britain last night or something. I think. And I think Abby Morgan is like the most popular one because she's like the best looking. I don't even know what one she is. And she did like a mocking thing when they beat him that she was like sipping tea, like kind of like cocky.

Yeah, I didn't catch any of this and maybe she's really good too i really don't actually probably do to me moving i've been even more out of the loop on what's happening in the world but yeah uh to me personally soccer is very overrated uh just because it's one of those things that seems like everyone else seems to be in the loop on yeah i don't even i just don't follow i mean i don't even tend to follow sports that closely in general i think it's right for the most part but soccer around here nobody even talks about it i actually saw a map what was this map this week it was a map of the united states and it said what were the choices the choices we could either be colored red or blue or gray.

And red was like, are you excited to watch World Cup soccer? And almost every state, every state, I believe, was red, except for South Dakota was gray, and gray said, I don't care. That's pretty good. Why would people, though though they've never been well like most people like i said very best their kids played it until fifth grade yeah and then soccer disappears around here because there's not enough people to play it so um yeah they just people don't have a vested interest in any way i think now that if they really are in the championship like you're telling me tanner i think some people might watch that but

again it's probably going to play at like three in the morning our time or some crazy time where you're not actually you probably know the ending before you even watch i guess u.s women's are very good much better much much better relative than how the men are you know the men are not to you know we didn't the men i believe didn't even qualify for the world cup last time around. Yeah. And the women have won before. I'm not saying this to shit on soccer.

I think it's a bad sport. I've got tons of respect for those people. It's just overrated. I mean, let's be honest here. It's incredibly overrated to me. Yeah. I think soccer is overrated. Yeah.

And you're not wrong. We'll see what the people say on that one. I'd be curious what our fans, how they rate soccer. Yeah, it would be too. Yeah. I mean, I would actually – And the question is women or World Cup. I would actually almost at this point – you could almost pick any sport,

and I would say it's overrated at this point. Right. Yeah. Like what sports on the up and up and not overrated? Power lifting is probably it. Even that, I would say the way the sport is ran makes it be overrated. It's like, oh, well, yeah, it is a sport, but also there's a hundred different governing bodies

for how the sport should be ran. So it's like, well, I don't know if that's overrated, but that's shitty. Yeah, it's not good. So, I don't know. Maybe just organized sports are overrated but that's shitty yeah it's not good so i don't know maybe just organized sports are overrated what about uh curling curling oh curling is always underrated yeah curling would maybe be the exception also has been featured in a mass dynamics versus before yeah what hasn't been yeah i mean we've kind of covered the world at this point it's like wikipedia but we aren't done yet nope we're still going and you're like oh why are they still going yeah does it ever end

probably not uh but this podcast does end this episode for now it will be done uh but do check out all our new stuff the sticker pack the don't curl in me flag the don't curl in me shirt that should be out the week that you're listening to this any day now yep any day now really really soon hop in on that and then of course we have the jefferson deadlift shirt the tank tops lift deadlifter bench yeah buddy huge life og shirts caps we got more caps coming in The Deadlifter cap is fairly new yet still. You probably don't have one of those yet. Our Flex Glass, we still have some of those in the store. And a large selection of banners.

Yeah. If you're a gym owner or a home gym owner, you probably need some banners. Or if you're like a college-age kid that just needs decor. Needs to do some interior decorating. Yeah. That would be a good go-to we have you covered yeah i can picture myself having something like that oh yeah yeah that does us though for 170 next time will be 171 maybe we'll be in a slightly even uh different

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