Massenomics Podcast - Ep.178: Non-Expert Nutrition Tips

Episode Date: September 2, 2019

Do you want some expert nutrition tips? Too bad, we give you a couple of ours instead. But be warned, we might be stretching the definition of the word "nutrition".

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcast and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Mastinomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Mastinomics! Welcome. Welcome back listeners to episode 178 of the Massanomics podcast. This is, uh, of course the lifting podcast about nothing. Two hosts are back again. My name is Tanner and to my left is Tommy. What's up? Not too much. It's, uh, another week back in the saddle. I did have a really important nutrition tip that I wanted to get out there right away this week. People, if you're not a regular listener, pay attention. We don't offer nutrition tips very often, so this is something you're going to want to hang on to.

At the beginning of the podcast, when we had first started years ago, we did offer maybe some more nutrition advice than we do now. I mean at the most basic like yeah you should pay attention to the amount of protein you consume and fat and carbs are an important piece of the puzzle too and then we realized yeah what do we know like there's a lot of people that know this way yeah we ever like you're not coming to us to find out like what your diet should be like you know i mean we all know that calories in, calories out, it all matters. Yes.

Yeah, we can't offer you any fancy diet supplements. We're no Lane Norton. Yeah, we're no Lane Norton or flexible dieting expert. Yeah, that ain't us. There's real experts for that. We're experts about nothing. Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, nothing. We'll talk about how we know nothing for minutes on end here.

Okay, so, Tommy, let me start this by asking you a question. Do you eat rice very often? I probably make rice once a week. Okay, the instructions on rice, one cup of rice, two cups of water, right? I think so, yeah. You know, I'm on the camera. My brain isn't quite there. So you're saying two to one. Two to one, yeah.

One cup of rice is never enough rice. That's not enough rice. So I always do two cups of rice. I always throw away rice then. It's so cheap, though. It's so cheap. I mean, yeah, I throw away pennies of rice, but it's just one of those things that I never, ever finish.

So how do you make it then? You're saying you make you on the stove. Yeah, I just do it on the stove top. I don't get it going. And I would say, I actually did tell my wife this the other day. I'm like, I think my rice cooking skills have gone up so much in the last month or two. I don't know why. They have.

In my opinion, they've gotten – like I'm not – there's that skill level when you're cooking rice on the stove when there's the one where you get it too hot and it boils over all over under the stove. There's also the one where it's just super, super sticky, too much water, whatever it is. But there's that fine line when you don't boil any water over. The rice has a certain amount of firmness to it. It's not super sticky and mushy. It's like damn i did something right here it's kind of and i've been hitting that mark lately a lot it's surprising how like good good rice can be yeah even just absolutely can be damn that's delicious like

that's tasty rice uh but so start to finish that process like from oh pulling it out of the cupboard to having edible rice on your plate is it like 10 minutes or something like that 18 oh yeah so 10 15 plus okay yeah so it does take a little bit of time it's yeah there is a little bit of time it's not like it's not like a hot pocket or pizza rolls you know bagel bite bagel bite pop ready in minutes you know uh so we have this isn't getting to the pro tip this is just still another step along this pathway but at home we have an instapot getting to the pro tip. This is just still another step along this pathway. But at home we have an Instapot. I make the rice in there quite often.

And there is a rice button on it, isn't there? Yes, that's what you do. You press the old rice button. But that's still, that cook time I think is 12 minutes usually. And plus then it has to vent out for a little while. So it's still, plus getting things ready, maybe cleaning them up a little bit, it's still uh plus getting things ready maybe cleaning them up a little bit it's still probably a 15 plus minute process yeah but that is the best rice making rice that way or your way when you do it well is the best tasting rice uh but sometimes i don't

want i want rice but do not uh want to put much time into it. I eat rice pretty frequently, maybe every day-ish. If it was more often than every other day but maybe not always every single day. A lot of times I just have beef and rice. So a lot of times I'll make extra rice ahead of time and I'll refrigerate some and pull it back out. But it is never as good that second time it's been reheated. Exactly. Not even close. It's not even like it goes down a little bit that second time.

It's much worse after you've reheated the moisture and everything is way out of whack every time you do that. But so sometimes I like to get like rice packets. Yep. The packets. So the common one that people would, the one I always used to know about and used to use sometimes was Uncle Ben's.

They're the orange ones. The orange ones, yeah. They come in either the cup or the bag. Yeah, that's what I, for a long, I mean, years ago, I would just buy like, because I don't want to have to think about anything more than two minutes ahead of time. So it's like, I'll just buy like 10 of those.

Right. And you have them. They're always there. If I ever needed a quick, like, okay, I need to get something else in this meal. All right. Rice packets are right there. Ready in what? A minute and a half?

Yes. Yes. 90 seconds. That's exactly right. And they do have a number of different flavors. They do. I was always partial towards, it did have kind of a little bit of an artificial taste, but the Mexican one with the beans in it.

Yeah. I was a fan of the rice and beans. Yeah. See, I'd say you hit the nail on the head, though. I always thought those Uncle Ben's ones do have this little bit of artificial flavor and also appearance. Yeah. Where the bit of rice just looks different. The whole thing feels way more manufactured.

Yeah. It doesn't look like the rice when you pull it out of your stove top. You know, it doesn't look the same. No, yeah, it doesn't. So my wife actually found this brand. She bought this without me knowing one day. Oh, pull the quick one out, yeah. Well, and she brought it home, and I was like, this isn't Uncle Ben's.

You know I want. This isn't from my Uncle Ben's. Yeah, like, this isn't what I usually eat like for the last five years you know like don't don't just be getting me different things but so this brand is called vt vee and they sell it at walmart yes i'll show you the picture never seen it basmati rice yeah so that they they have a few different types of rice basmati or jasmine rice uh most of them are pretty just simple white rice, though, and it's in a little bit different vehicle than what you're used to with Uncle Ben's.

This is almost like a plastic TV dinner. The thing you poke the holes in the top of, that's how this is done. And this serving size is a little bit bigger than the bag of Uncle Ben's. The bag of Uncle Ben's, I can't remember how much that is, but this is a cup and a half. Oh, so it is a pretty good size. It's a pretty good size, and it only costs $1.50. It's larger quantity, lower price than Uncle Ben's,

but that alone is not why I advocate for VT rice. From a flavor standpoint and appearance and what it looks like, so much better than Uncle Ben's. It's basically actually rice. Yes, it seems like rice that you made on the stove. As close to it as you can get. It is a two-minute heat instead of the 90 seconds, so there is a little bit of extra love. Yeah, there's that 30 seconds.

And their film that you have to peel off because you poke holes in it. They don't want you to peel it off and then cook it. You poke holes, cook it, and then you have to peel off uh because you poke holes in it they don't want you to peel it off and then cook you poke holes cook it and then you have to peel it off it does not peel off easily and it is always just burning hot when you want to take it off that i give that a little bit of a downgrade but outside of that the usability is a little higher yes but the flavor and reward is much more. Yeah, so lower price, higher quantity, flavor, texture, appearance, much better than Uncle Ben's. This beats the shit out of Uncle Ben's to me.

So VT is getting the Masonomics seal of approval for quick price? Yeah, definitely. Yes, and this isn't a paid ad, although it's a very long way of getting there. But I figure there's got to be a lot of people listening to us that also eat rice. I would think in that same situation where I think most people would agree that when the time is there, they would prefer to make their own rice. Right, and I still agree with that. There's always that time you're in the pinch where there's just that nice thing to throw in and get going in a hurry.

And this is almost so good and still reasonably priced that it's almost regular rice obsolete more so than before because more on my trade-off between when i was just looking at either a uncle ben's or b making good rice it's like yeah the good rice is so much better you know i like it better than uncle ben's it takes longer but now it's like ah it this kind of is as good as the regular rice yeah it's still much more expensive i was gonna say it's still i mean a dollar 50 it's like well you're probably technically getting probably four servings out of that but regular rice would be almost pennies for that price right right but really a dollar 50 is pretty cheap yeah things yeah you know in comparison to regular rice still

much much much more expensive but it's the convenience trade-off for sure yeah but vt and i don't know if this is newer maybe, but I know Walmart carries it. But now we're running it. I've been having her buy it in the little five-pack boxes at a time that they oftentimes do not have any left. She'll go and just buy. So other people are in on the secret. I don't know.

I don't know. I'm probably making a mistake by letting it out it's taking the world by storm it is considerably more expensive from amazon though than it is from walmart that's an interesting thing i thought too because i because my wife said hey they're out of it at walmart i said why don't you just order from amazon and she said it's way more expensive on amazon i was like really i didn't know that maybe that's ever been the case on anything maybe there's a costco deal out there somewhere that you can buy it in 100 packs. Yes.

It's crazy money. Right. Do you ever order groceries off of Amazon? I still have not done any online grocery ordering of any kind. This is how it works every time. It'll be like a Saturday morning or a Sunday morning. My wife and I will say, we should go get groceries. So we're not doing it during the week.

And on our way to the store, we go, we should have called these in and had them deliver them out. And we still have never done that before. My wife uses that all the time. Are you guys still sticking to that pretty regularly? I mean, I don't do any of it at all, so I can't But do you support her habit of doing it? I really get behind her

doing that and not involving me in it. But I do think she really likes it a lot. And I would like it if I was doing it. I totally see it, yeah. It does take the scheduling, you know, the in advance sort of thing. Yeah, I do like walking down the aisles and being like,

oh, all right, this is on sale, I'll buy that. And I guess, I mean, if you're browsing the website, I mean, it's not a whole lot different than seeing, browsing the aisles. There is still something to actually being there. Just really feeling it out. But their customer service at Walmart on this whole process is really good. If there's anything

you know because there is that weird thing of you not being there to select your groceries for certain types of things and they're really good if anything's wrong. They reimburse you or exchange it out. Which I mean you would hope is the case right yeah that is good that that is how it goes yeah yeah with walmart you never know yeah so that

was my big nutrition uh segment i figured it's been about 50 episodes since we've talked yeah you know and i was gonna say so um tune in to episode 225 where we revisit nutrition where we we'll pick one other food pick a new type of rice you can microbe. Oh, and I like to get a little more specific about the nutrition part of it. I like rice because it's carbs. Right. And sometimes I want the carbs.

And Stan Heffernan invented it when he made the vertical diet. Right. Until that time rice was... He invented rice and beef. Yes. And he put them together. Yeah.

So we can stand on that. Along with some beef tallow and wash it down with an orange. Yep. And salt. All about. Himalayan pink salt. Yes. Yeah.

It is about the key specific ingredients of these things. Right. Don't get them twisted. Sodium. You got to keep those straight. Yeah. Speaking of food tanner, I've noticed a huge, and I know almost nothing about this, I've noticed a huge uptick lately in, I think they refer to it as impossible beef, impossible meat. Is it like the impossible sit-up?

Yes. You think you're getting a burger and someone farts in your face. People love it. The surprise factor. Hilarious. It kind of has that done right. You pulled your pants down. It can have that intense beef flavor in your face.

No, the lab-grown meat is becoming more of a thing. Like to the point where I saw Burger King had an actual ad on TV for – So do they have a sandwich you can buy that's – So it's called Impossible? Like if it's... You know, I better look here before I start talking too much. Okay. But you said Burger King was the chain that you saw had something out on it.

Yeah. Okay. Yep. So yes, Burger King does refer to it as the Impossible Whopper. And let's read about it a little bit here. Impossible Whopper, 100% Whopper, 0% beef, which normally you would say, wow, that's absolutely disgusting.

Yeah. Like, I would expect a fast food restaurant to have that approach, but not advertise that, you know? Right. It says the Impossible Whopper sandwich features a savory flame-grilled patty made from plants topped with juicy tomatoes. Yeah, you know, the regular Whopper stuff.

So that's made from plants. Yes. Yeah, okay, yes. So this one is made from plants topped with juicy tomatoes for yeah you know the the regular whopper stuff so that's made from plants yes that yeah okay yes so this one is made it's a plant-based uh yes non-beef patty okay see i was under the impression that it was like some type of lab grown meat right but i have heard i have read a couple little articles on this lab grown meat becoming yeah more of a reality yes it is becoming i think closer and closer which actually i mean it does bring up the interesting thing of like okay if lab grown meat gets to let's just say it's a dollar a pound would you be like and it has the exact same nutritional would you be like i'm all in on lab grown meat that's a weird it's that's like a it's hard to it's not a thing that's easy to wrap your head around, I feel like. I think there's a lot of questions with it. Well, first of all, is it meat? I mean, it has all the properties of muscle tissue and stuff, so I suppose it is.

But is it beef? Maybe it's not beef. I guess it comes right back to what do you define as meat? Because already meat is kind of, I guess, it comes from the tissue of a living organism. Right. So it's already getting these weird waters of, I guess it didn from the tissue of a living organism. Right. So, yeah, it's already getting like these weird waters of. Right. I guess it didn't technically come from something that you didn't have to kill something to make it maybe.

That's kind of my hang up. If I don't get to kill something in the process, I'm not all that interested. You know, hunt it down with a bow. And strangle it with my bare hands. Yeah, yeah. To assert your dominance in the food i want to look at my food in the eyes while i while i kill it i mean like any sane person does well i said go to sleep now

rest but yeah but uh yeah i think it does bring up an like i mean this i still think it's a few years out that's why i was so confused with the Impossible Whopper because I totally caught the end of the ad, and I saw Impossible Whopper, and they're like, oh, it's not really meat. I was like, dang, they have lab-grown meat in Burger King already? But it makes way more sense when it's a plant thing. But I don't think it's unreasonable to think that in five years that we will be seeing ads for lab-grown meat.

Just personally, I don't mind that it exists, but I'm not interested myself in the plant-based meat replacements or alternatives because I have no hang-up on actual meat. Like I was joking, I don't want to go strangle the cow myself, but I have no problem with the system of cows being murdered for me to be able to to eat beef it will turn into just there's going to be a price war at some point right and that will like totally put things into chaos especially for this part of the country where we live like that would be um i mean you could say like actual entire industries will be messed up right right it could be like uh uh the changes in coal steel industries

in pittsburgh or you know like that same sort of thing uh yeah i i i don't know the the lab-grown meat is a weird thing i'm not sure if it i guess it if it tasted exactly the same what if it tasted even better what if you could get lab-grown meat that was like ribeye flavor? So it's like, gosh, this is all, it's ground up, but it's all ribeye. And also in its appearance and everything, you couldn't tell it wasn't. Yeah, I mean, so much of the food you eat now is so heavily manufactured anyways. It's like, well, how much different is it? Well, yeah, yeah, really, you know. Yeah.

I don't know. That's weird. I guess, as for now, I still like the idea of it coming from the actual animal but it's weird it's it's hard to say in five or ten years that things could be different you know if you can pack like 50 ounces of protein into like yeah what if you can make the what and yeah all some things like that it's like oh yeah it's really attractive from a right performance standpoint too and i don't know if those things are possible i would imagine at some point they are once we start talking about like really you know uh uh pushing what what this vehicle is for holding nutrition like the bigger thing is if they can legitimately make it a lot

cheaper then it's more like uh feeding the hungry people in the world thing you know you know it's like a a huge opportunity at that point thing at a moral thing at this point. Yeah, right. So I guess we'll put that on the watch for, I don't know, episode probably 700 and some. We'll revisit the topic. I wonder if we'll still have a podcast in five years. Kind of makes my head hurt thinking about that. To do more than we've already done. So like to do more than what we've done right now.

Like we're not even a quarter way in. We really are just getting started. Well, that's probably enough food talk for today, Tanner. But something I do. Let's call it nutrition though. So that's educational. Yes, yes, yes. That was definitely nutrition talk.

We have covered our bases on the nutrition side for a while. We should probably talk about something we know slightly more about, and that's equipment. And we talked about equipment a decent amount last week. There is one piece that browsing the interwebs really caught my eye this week. Caught mine too. Really. It's eye-catching.

I mean, it is eye-catching. It's an-catching. I mean, it is eye-catching. It's an interesting piece. And that would be the Rogue Monster Lat Pull-Down Slash Low Row parentheses standalone. And it's Rogue's pull-down machine. And why is a lat pull-down machine interesting? Well, there's a couple specs right away that really, really jump out at you. It does have a look, too. Like, when you see the picture, you're like, oh. I mean, it looks like a good-looking Rogue piece.

To me, a lap pull-down machine kind of does. Yeah. It's a stack of weights. What do they call it again? What's their technical name of the piece of equipment? The Monster Lap Pull-Down Slash Low Row. Okay. Yeah.

To me, it's like a cable column. Like, it's half of a cable crossover yeah yeah that pretty much is yeah you get two of these you have a full-on crossover right yeah you would actually i never thought about part of it but so reading the description here it says this is the fully updated freestanding version of rogues 100 american made monster lap pull down and low row machine uhying just, so this is being modest with this, it occupies just a 40-inch by 60-inch footprint. That's big.

It's relatively big. I mean, lat pull-down machines do take up, but 40-inch by 60-inch, you're at... Five feet. Yeah, three and a half by five. So, I mean, that's a decent amount. But this next number the eight foot tall unit yeah eight feet tall that is a big and i saw someone say something

about nine feet is there something on it that goes even taller or is it just eight feet maybe that's maybe nine was just wrong what i had yeah and see the okay so it's eight the nine is actually what caught my attention too but it's 96 inches tall okay and it's a it's a big machine like to think that the top of this machine is eight feet tall like yeah that's getting up there you know yeah that is you know that it's getting borderline where some basements and uh yeah even garages won't fit in the best um it also it does come with a 300 pound weight stack in 10 pound increments so pretty generous there yeah i think i did read something like a it's what's like a one to two ratio so right you know when you're at 300 pounds you're actually with the pulley system moving 150 and i

don't know what a lot of people get confused on yeah all that you know the system works is you know when you put the pin in at 100 pounds on your pulley system you're not actually moving 100 pounds to me to me those weights on the thing are meaningless other than a reference point of like where you've been it might as well be level one two three four five and some of them are like that yes and some are and that's just as well be because i remember growing up like seeing ones like that be like oh i don't know what weight i'm moving and then once you realize like well technically that depending on howys they have in the system anyways, you actually really don't know how much weight you're moving. And I do know if you compare, you could speak to this too,

like our lat pull-down machine that we have at our gym versus our cable crossover that we have. The lat pull-down has a very... Drastically different. Yeah. The ratio, I don't know if you'd call it higher or lower, but it'd be closer to 1 to 2 or almost feels like 1 to 1. Like 120 pounds on the lat pulldown machine feels like 120 pounds.

And on our cable crossover, it feels like 20. You could do tricep extensions on that baby all day. It has a lot of pulleys on it, though. If you look the way that the cable runs on our cable crossover, it goes through a lot of pulleys to get to where the end point yeah so that's that is there's differences there yes there absolutely is and um you know looking at this thing it is no doubt a beast we haven't touched on the price yet maybe this is probably even the most shocking part other than i mean even more so than it being like this fairly big machine eight feet tall two thousand nine hundred and fifty dollars and that is a three thousand dollars three thousand dollar and that doesn't include shipping no probably not right right so if you go to want

to go drive to rogan pick it up it's going to cost you three thousand dollars yeah and it's probably some friendships trying to move the damn thing yeah um does it say to is it in one piece yeah it ships in one piece that's right that thing it ships for a huge yeah it's into a skid so the shipping is probably like three or four hundred bucks with custom metal brackets included for added protection. So, let's probably just say it's $3,500 to get this thing to your door. Yeah, I mean, it costs a few hundred bucks. Yeah, freight shipping is usually at least $250. And the size of that thing, I would think it would be more because that takes up some serious space in the back of a truck.

That is a lot of coin, though. Yeah, it is an insane amount of coin. Now I'm thinking, okay, I'm second-guessing one of my lines here. I got to check my sources, Tanner. On price or on? I'm looking. I'm looking on some key specs here. Okay.

No, no. Well, see, okay okay this is what's got me confused okay yeah this is this is a different thing because what what originally got me interested in this is garage zoom reviews t yeah like a couple days ago yeah and then okay this is a different one all right i didn't even realize this okay so there's a new rogue Cable Crossover coming out. Okay. The one I'm talking about is the old one, apparently. Okay. So the new one isn't on the website yet. Gotcha. And the new one is $2,495.

Okay. So it's $500 cheaper. But it's nine feet tall, right? But the new one is nine feet tall, so it's a foot taller. Yeah. And the footprint is 55 by 55, so it's a bigger footprint, too. Yeah, right. God, that is a beast of a machine.

Still, it doesn't change the things we were saying pretty much. It really doesn't. Price, maybe it's more like $3,000 to your door then. But that's a pretty limited market. Nine feet tall limits the market though too. That takes a lot of space. Nine, I feel like is really starting to lose market. I mean, we could have something like that in our space.

But that price is the biggest thing. really starting to market i mean we could have something like that in our space but but that price is the biggest thing like is a garage gym owner gonna spend three grand on a and you know once you see nine feet 2500 bucks it's pretty safe to assume they're not targeting no that's not what they're going after yeah this thing is going for uh yeah yeah commercial environments like but then okay i'm sure it's really nice like it's probably like as nice of one of those as there is but is it better is there something about it that there's more utility from it than the one like then what we like say what we have i think you'd be hard pressed to like actually like look someone straight in the eye and yeah like really feel strong about that statement

other than like this one's american made yeah all american it looks cool with our other rogue stuff in the dream i mean i think it's safe to say it wins the beauty contest yeah right right but the price is so much higher than what you would pay for yeah something else i and i mean this is coming from people that feel like for the most part rogues pricing is pretty justified on a lot of things. Yeah, I think so. A lot of people think it's super overpriced. I think it's reasonable on a lot of stuff. I guess of the rogue things in the gym, I don't think there's anything. I mean, there is some that maybe is getting more onto the unreasonable side like this.

But of the things that we have down in the gym, there's nothing down there we'd be like, Oh, this really paid for it. It's nice, but it cost us. There's not a lot personally. But I suppose if you look deeper in the catalog, you could probably find some gems in there of really hitting that sweet spot at a super high price and maybe not the best return.

Right, right. But we ain't those guys. No. So I'll go buy one of those. Yeah. So someone buy one or two. Let us know how they hold up. That's what I think, though.

Someone needs to buy two and have a $5,000 cable crossover set up. I'm curious, though, because we have down in the gym a magazine from an actual company. And the shit that they're selling to commercial gyms, that stuff's not cheap at all either. It probably costs more than that, really. It actually probably does. I was going to say, the cable crossover we have down in the gym, did that come from a Snap Fitness?

I think that maybe was in a Snap Fitness or it was in something like that. It for sure came from a commercial gym of some kind. Yes, an Anytime Fitness, a Snap Fitness, some 24-hour. I mean, that thing probably cost $6,000. Yeah, I was going to say, that probably did cost more than $5,000. say like well we sell to this market um this is just the tax you pay to be part of this market we bought it for like 750 dollars so literally

you know probably a tenth of what it costs new uh but yeah that they're they're probably in line with with the alternate other alternatives you'd buy that are of that quality that you're also purchasing new i'm just not used to buying that type of thing new yeah and it's not an investment most people will right right it's private for sure um tanner i have something for us oh it's always good to have something i mean we're not ready to wrap this up yet so i have to have something good um that something is supplement real or fake oh supplements real or fake all right this thing likes to poke its little head out every so often yeah i do like supplements real or fake and it's making its return today yeah uh if you're unfamiliar with

supplement real or fake it is the maybe second or third it's for sure in the top five hottest games we play on the massonomics podcast uh it is a somewhat reoccurring uh show uh feature that we do bi-monthly the way yeah it's a bi-monthly segment the way it works i am going to read off supplements tanner then has to decide is that name of that supplement is that in fact a real supplement or is it actually fake and he has to use all of his years of experience um browsing looking buying consuming supplements really put them to the put it all together and decide is this real or fake okay t, Tanner. Are you ready to get started? Let's do it.

Are those rules clear? I know these rules like the back of my hand. Okay, good. And also, don't forget, you are allowed to think out loud. Yes, that makes it better, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't want you to just be over there thinking in quietness for five minutes. Okay.

We have had episodes like that where we just sit here while I think. We have a few of those. Okay, first up, supplement real or fake? Comatose. We have had episodes like that where we just sit here while I think. We have a few of those. Okay, first up, supplement real or fake? Comatose. Comatose. What does comatose mean? Like you're in a... As in like your long form of coma.

Yeah. Some people might not have actually heard that. We might have just taught somebody something there. Oh, well, so it's a... I guess my... And also you have to, with all these for the listeners out there, Tanner has to also provide his guess as to what that might be. So my first...

It didn't come to me right away, but as I thought about it just for a second, it's like a sleep aid, like ZMA. It'd be something... Magnesium, I think people use for sleep, or Ambien. That or like a, well, my brain is not, melatonin. Yeah, melatonin. There you go. Thank you. Yeah, melatonin.

That's my guess. It's a sleep aid supplement is what I think it is, and I think it's real. Okay. So first up, you said a sleep aid supplement was what i think it is and i think it's real okay so first up you said real sleep aid supplement comatose is real all right and it is a pre-workout um you know what i'm actually trying to figure out okay it is a real supplement uh you can buy it on i'll pump you up.com uh pretty sure i bought something from there before i can't figure out okay it is a real supplement uh you can buy it on i'll pump you up.com uh pretty sure i bought something from there i can't figure out what it oh it is under the category

mood enhancer um not quite sure what it is so we should probably read the description here in our ever-changing world of bad economics really pissed off significant others and extreme living maybe the weirdest way to start a supplement wouldn't and also just like an odd combination of trying to think of bad things that are like oh yeah my life does suck thank you yeah you are a total piece of shit we all find a paramount desire to relax sleep and hope to recover uh alr industries design comatose for nighttime use simply so you can potentially just feel great all the time even while dieting and sleep think about that train like an animal burn fat fast have way too much energy and be in a let's do this mood all day then hit the ultimate recovery

chill pill at night comatose think around the clock fat burning not quite sure what that last part had anything to do with there let's just throw that in we know people like fat burning i gotta be honest okay the description really makes it seem like it's a sleep aid uh the category they have it under is mood enhancer which is really weird too uh even the description here it's actually the the manufacturer's alri i don't in the description they say oh alr industries okay so that'd be alri um to me it's weird to say comatose because that's like the version of sleep you never want right where you're like like you might not wake up from this one that's like like coma is is usually one step up from dead. That's from allpumpyouup.com.

It's on allpumpyouup.com, but it's from ALR Industries. I bought supplements from that website before, back in the day. There's some reviews out there. Not many, and they're from 2011. Have you ever taken Ambien? I have not. Ambien is a prescription.

Yeah. Oh. You get in trouble. I have dabbled in Ambien. There's been some nights where. Did it knock you out hard? I'm going to say no. Like, I don't know.

No, it's not like. It was no miracle for me, I guess. I know some people have weird things that happen. Like, there's like ambient sleepwalking or something like that. Kind of puts you in some really weird states, can't it? Yeah. Hmm. Wow.

Part of a class of drugs called sedative hypnotics. I mean, that sounds pretty cool right there. Wow. Okay. Okay. So on to the next one here, Tanner. You're one for one. Really making your comeback on this supplement, real or fake, going good.

So far, so good. Next up, supplement, real or fake. Fuck fat. Fuck fat. Is there an asterisk in the... That is what it is, Taylor. It is up to your... Is it fat with a pH?

It is not fat with a pH. Well, I guess if I'm to guess what kind of product it is, I suppose I would say it's a fat burner. That would make sense. Or a fat fucker in this case. And is it real or is it fake? I think that it's real. I think someone's going after the shock factor of giving the shock value

and getting people to order their supplement based off that. So I'm going to say that that is a real supplement and that it's, of course, a fat burner. It is real. You are correct, Tanner. This is one I actually ran across very early on in the supplement real or fake research process. I had multiple people bring it up to me.

Suggest this one. This seems to be one of kind of like urban legend. Okay. Just because the name is so out there. Yeah. The last person to suggest it to me in my note here is Mr. James Swimhack Strickland. I've heard of him. I have too.

He's the guy with the lift shorts, isn't he? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the guy that could afford the lift shorts. He is the one and only. But fuck fat. You asked if fat was spelledelt with a ph it's not fuck was spelt with the ph in this case oh okay i'm not completely sure i believe this company

that made it is out of business it's really hard to find now and i ran across it on some forums of people talking about it and now that i try and find it i'm actually even having trouble writing across it but uh i do believe it was a fat burner of some kind. I don't have a huge problem with explicit language. Yeah, yeah. Okay, the bottle says energy, fat loss, and read warning label prior to use. A bottle of yellow pills. Probably had some fedred type of something going on there.

To me, it would be weird to come out with a product that has the F word in the name. I mean, you've got to assume that that's already going to be hurting your sales. I mean, you'll definitely make some sales on the novelty factor of it. Right, right. You've got to weigh those, uh, way, really way that your choices there. And I'm not sure if that actually comes out ahead for, for the seller on that one.

Okay. Tanner, you are now two for two. All right. Two for two. Very good. Wow. Getting warmed up too.

I know. Okay. Next up supplement, real or fake number three on the list. The big guy, the big guy. Oh, think about male enhancement when I, the big guy. The big guy. Think about male enhancement when I hear the big guy because it's like you're talking about your wiener

and that it's the big guy. So that's what I would think male enhancement. That's one way of thinking about it. So we've gone to thus far that have both been real. Hmm. I could certainly see that being a real supplement yep the name is ambiguous enough that it kind of just blankets things yeah it also is ambiguous enough that is it a thing yeah right right um just for the sake of uh mixing it up i'm gonna say that that one's fake the big guy is real so i'm wrong um you can get the big guy on amazon right here this is also one of the perks of doing something

enhancement did i have that right um we'll just say we'll get there the one of the supplement one of the perks of doing supplement real or fake is that it completely ruins your amazon recommendations forever um so yeah rest of your life. Yeah, I get great, great recommendations on terrible fitness products and supplements emailed to me. All the time. Seems like it doesn't matter how many times I tell Amazon I don't want these. I just seem to keep getting them. This says it is under the testosterone booster category.

The big guy bodybuilding testosterone booster for men. Vegan friendly, non-GMO, weightlifting supplement, naturally boost testosterone and libido. the testosterone booster category the big guy bodybuilding testosterone booster for men vegan friendly non-gmo weightlifting supplement naturally boost testosterone and libido 300 capsules and oh who do we have here oh uh what's is it ryback the professional wrestler oh i think so yeah he is endorsing it oh he's a big guy he is a big guy you know what's got to be good if he's if he's on board with it oh yeah ryback reeves man they're really making him a part of the marketing campaign uh first question after you take the pill how long does it take to get an erection first answer it's not a testosterone booster not. It's not a boner pill, dude.

Wow, okay. Well, this guy says he recommends 100%, and the next guy says, what a letdown. Next guy says, great product. Next guy says it's big and it works. This guy also says Ryback doesn't BS. So you got to take Ryback's word for it. I'm not going to be the one to call him out to his face.

I won't do that. But yeah, it is a real thing. Okay, Tanner, you are now two and one. Yeah. Going into the last supplement on the list. Supplement real or fake. Cannibal Carnage Killer Bombsicle. Cannibal carnage killer bombsicle cannibal carnage killer bombsicle cannibal carnage cannibal carnage killer bombsicle that's what i said wow

that is not one that the type of product that just screams to you by the name cannibal carnage killer bomb sickle. I think pre-workout because that's my, that's always the catch all. I guess it hasn't come up yet in this one because the other ones have kind of like steered me in a particular direction when it doesn't steer me in a direction. And it's just like a lot of like loud language. Steer me in a direction that's just like a lot of like loud language. There's always with these names, you know, just outlandish. There's two options, male enhancement or pre-workout. That's a ridiculous name.

I hope it's real just because I want to believe that someone did that. So I'm going to say that it's real, and I'm going to go pre-workout. Cannibal Carnage Killer Bomsicle is real, Tanner. All right, good. You went three for one. Thank God someone's made this. It comes from chaosandpain.com. Cannibal Carnage Killer Bomsicle is an advanced. It is a pre- an advanced. Okay.

It is a pre-workout. Aha. For $44.99. Getting up there in my pre-workout pricing. It is the. These are words I don't even really know. It is Chaos and Pain's first lipolysis transport potentiating powder. Oh, those are some of the better ones.

I can't imagine many people really even understand what that is or what that means. But do you and the scale have a love-hate relationship? You know, you love to hate when it laughs at you. Are you tired of doing everything right and not getting the results you deserve? Have you tried all the hot, high-stim thermogenics on the market but are still having trouble

getting off those last 5 to 10 pounds of fat? If so, now is the time to attack your metabolism and lay carnage to your fat uh cannibal carn cannibal carnage chaos and pain's first mobilizing supplement it can be stacked with other thermogenics or even used with non-stim pre-workout supplements like perma swole it makes ordinary water taste awesome and each serving is packed to the brim with the following ingredients and you know just a bunch of stuff you have no idea what it is yeah one of them probably it has no lack of caffeine in the product i would assume uh you know i'm actually having a hard time finding caffeine if they're if it's in there they're not obvious sometimes they like to be sneaky.

Yeah, I'm actually not finding it. Do we have any groundbreaking reviews? Makes drinking water so much easier. Oh, come on. That's what you want. Buy Mio or whatever or Gatorade powder. Yeah. This guy's been stuck with 12 pounds to lose for months.

He added cannibal carnage to his daily routine and lost 9 pounds in 2 weeks. So there it is. Sounds sustainable. It will get you those last 9 pounds off. One thing I really liked about the website Chaos and Pain that we might want to look into, Tanner. Okay, you can buy this product for $44.99 or for interest-free payments of $11.25 with

Sezzle. How Sezzle works. We've partnered with Sezzle to give you the ability to buy now and pay later. Wow, we should partner with Sezzle for a checkout. I think you know what, I think we all know what product we have that that could come in handy for. I mean, I don't know if these need to be said. We have a product we have that that could come in handy for. I mean, I don't know if these need to be said.

We have a whole list of products that could come in handy for. Oh, man. I feel like even if we just didn't hook up that part of the store, we'll just put the little Sezzle for four. Or what was the other one? Klarna? Yeah, Klarna.

Why do the names of these financing things have to be weird? I just wanted to say, when you go to buy our product, there's the price for $28.99. Yeah. And then there's six different financing options below just from all of these. Do you want to pay for over the course of three months, six months, a year?

Because we can finance it however you want to. Wow. That's something to look into right there. Yeah. All right. Well, Tanner, that wraps up Supplement Real or Fake. So they're all real again. They were all real again this time.

Across the board. Right into my trap and managed to let me get one off was all. Yes. But very well done. We do have a best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week this week. Not something we do every week, but we do do a lot of weeks. I mean, the comment has to be good. Right.

It says right in the title that it's the best one. It has to be the best. Yeah, nothing but the best. This comment comes from a video of, speaking of James Strickland, where he was squatting a pr of 750 pounds wearing the bench shirt doesn't necessarily apply to this comment but so the original comment that someone made is not the best instagram slash youtube comment of the week it's the reply that someone made to the this comment which is often how it works yes exactly so the original comment is

from uh guinea men i guess that's how you'd say that and i believe he i've seen him comment on things of us he gets it i can tell he he knows what we're doing and uh he said he could possibly be the first person to bench 1000 squat 1000 and jefferson deadlift 1000 and then he said at massonomics at swim hack so he's kind of making a little bit of a joke well yeah and it's really funny i like that yes yes so someone responded to him at guinea man i'm sure someone's really gonna come set the record straight after yes after falling into that trap. Someone goes, no human being will ever bench 1,000 raw. That's his response. Someone makes that ridiculous comment.

Obviously a joke. It includes Jefferson deadlift 1,000 pounds. He just leaves Jefferson deadlift floating out there. He's not going to address that. Right. The elephant in the room. Yes, right. And he said it.

So the best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week is from crazy underscore selt. No human being will ever bench 1,000 pounds raw. Well, I'm glad we have that insight. It's also a bold statement just wrapping up the entire rest of humanity. There's a lot of time left. I would think. I hope at least. Presumably, yeah.

Yep, you never know like we start uh doing some gene therapy here it's the impossible meat starts showing but no we know that that's not possible because now i know that no human being will ever it has been it has been stated yes um so that has been laid down right yeah that that's the case and that's that's his story and we're sticking to it okay okay i guess i i guess I don't have anything to back or to disagree with him, so I'll have to go with it. Okay. I did forget to mention, though, that the Chaos and Pain was a user-submitted one,

CTG underscore 93. Okay. So thank you for that. I always like to give a shout-out. Yes. Mr. CTG. Do a little bit of the work for us, you know. Yes.

Yes, that's good. But don't send them to me. Sometimes people send them to me, and that kind of ruins the game. Oh, yeah, that might as well. You just might as well just throw it in the garbage. Yeah, so don't send it. You have to send it to Tommy, not the official at Massanomics Instagram handle,

because then it's ruined at that point. We also have a podcast review to read this week, a good one. This was a five out of five star and i also as long as we're talking about i do we do encourage these podcast reviews there's a good chance we'll read them as long as they show up i don't understand how it works sometimes the number just goes up but it doesn't bring us more podcast reviews to see and read so if we're not reading yours it's not because we don't like it it's because apple doesn't like it yes they don't like it like to show it to us but we did get to see

this one this week the title is the power lifting podcast about nothing i can already tell they are paying attention i can't disagree with that the name uh screen name is tttt yyyyy you you you i like and they said what can be said about massonomics that can't be said about jeff bezos T-T-T-T-T-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y- I mean, well stated. Very well stated. Us and Jeff Bezos, Amazon, do have a lot in common here. When you think about it, there's a lot of parallels to be drawn. There's probably more in common there. Than there's different, yeah. Yeah, there's more of the same than there is different for sure. Yep, I think so.

Well, thank you for that review. Yeah, that was a good one. Would you be interested in recapping last week's results from overrated, underrated? I would. If you don't know, you're stupid. We talk about it every week. You should know that we always like to review the Instagram results of our underrated,

overrated segment from the prior podcast. So we're going to cover that quick here. Topic number one from last week was orange juice with pulp. Tommy, you said overrated you said get that pulp out of my glass i don't like it no no no uh do you know what the people said on this one overrated it was very close really but 52 underrated really i was surprised by that yeah because it's such a specific thing if something's that specific it's more likely to

be overrated. If I'm completely honest, you are one of the first people I've ever talked to that said they enjoy pulp in their orange juice. Yeah, we got 52% said underrated. Wow. And even though that's how I feel, I was surprised that that was what the people said. Yeah. And that's on like 1,400 voters or something too, so it's a pretty good sample size. Next topic was Tom Brady, overrated or underrated.

I just think there's enough people that don't like the Patriots, they're going to say overrated. Right, exactly. And that's, I believe, the case, 58% overrated. Fairly close. Yeah, I was still expecting a bigger margin than that. Yeah, yeah. J.D. Power Awards.

Overrated yeah sure i'm so i don't know how there was 24 percent of people that said underrated i feel like they had to just been joking around i think so yeah they just it's a joke to be one of the lower numbers right yeah yeah i think i've seen 80 before you know let yuri belkin was 80 underrated uh i know i've seen that yeah yeah last topic was pizza rolls and i you said did you say underrated on pizza rolls or did you say overrated in the uh on the podcast i said pizza rolls were god i went really back and forth on it yeah i said they were i honestly don't even remember now yeah i don't remember and then i remember when i clicked to vote today i'm like i'm pretty sure i picked the opposite of what i said last okay so i'm extra torn now i don't even

know what i said the people said 66 underrated okay so the people like pizza rolls i have to follow that up with bagel bites and see how those fit into the uh that's true equation bagel bites uh spoiler bagel bites is not in today's overrated underrated but we could see it against we could see it at some point in time yeah we got a lot of a lot of future podcasts to cover overrated underrated here so we got a lot of options going forward topics uh but i don't know last week's overrated underrated is probably as good a segue as any in the leading into this week's overrated underrated let's pop in then topic one for this week's overrated underrated this is a current thing that i popped across i'm curious what you know about it topic one overrated or underrated popeye's chicken sandwich

uh do you know about popeye's chicken sandwich i know there's been a ton of memes and just traffic online about it uh because we don't have a popeye's like near us really at all in like within a state there's one in sioux falls okay there is so there is one three hours away okay yeah you know you drive 200 miles you can get to it did you happen to go get one in order to do your research i didn't is the whole thing though is that they finally have chicken sandwiches now like yeah the chicken sandwich was new for them and i i had to look up what the hell was so special about it so to me it seemed pretty similar to chick-fil-a's chicken sandwich it's a chicken sandwich with pickles and your choice of like two sauces but how's that different than any chicken

sandwich anywhere i mean other than the fact that it is popeye's chicken right right but it's just it is a chicken sandwich right yes okay yes yes very correct some crazy but it has huge buzz on it it does oh i think part of it is just the dumb internet yeah right right it's like meme worthy as what right um but even like wendy's uh chick-filfil-A and Wendy's were both like tweeting out jokes about that, you know, kind of like playing into it. Yeah. Yeah. There's always going to be that. I don't know. I, I probably have to. Well, have you ever eaten at Popeye's at all? once in my life and it was probably oh seven eight years ago i went to bonnaroo with some friends and bonnaroo is in tennessee and on the way there we're like hey there's a popeyes none of us have been there we should go i don't even honestly remember one thing about my meal um so i mean

it wasn't bad i guess if i don't have anything bad to say about it but uh to me i personally i never even really get that excited about chicken sandwiches in general or or fast food chicken to be honest yeah uh i'm probably gonna have to say it's probably overrated but i'm torn i'd love to be proven wrong yeah popeyes hears this i'd love for them to just figure out a way to send me one that's fresh right deliver one uh i'd love to be proven wrong. If Popeye's hears this, I'd love for them to just figure out a way to send me one that's fresh, deliver one. I'd love to be proven wrong. But for now, I would say with the amount of internet hype around it, it's probably most definitely overrated. Okay. Overrated on the Popeye's chicken sandwich.

Topic number two, overrated or underrated, HBO. Not a specific show. We've covered a lot of specific HBO shows, but HBO. I really do think HBO is underrated hbo not a specific show we've covered a lot of specific hba shows but hbo i really do think hbo is underrated uh when you look at just the networks or if you just want to say like content studios that are out there are networked groups whatever you want to refer to them as that are producing content there's probably not one uh that is just producing content at a level of hbo and someone might bring up disney into the argument and i have a hard time supporting that completely because disney's whole thing has just been buying every company in the

world right um that kind of is their model right now just buy everything right um and then do you see now was it disney plus disney's launching yeah it's gonna be hulu and espn and oh that one of the packages that they have though for like 12 bucks you can get disney plus basically the entire disney catalog yeah all right and then now under disney there's the entire marvel conic universe yeah there's all of star wars um and then you know everything that disney's made um so i have a hard time by it's putting them in the same group just because well you know five years ago ten years ago disney was a very different creature but right um netflix has started to make a lot more original and i

it does and i think that that is good and i think that needs to happen because um disney is basically just taking the mentality that we're just going to rehash old shit forever. Have you seen the South Park with the member berries at all? No, I haven't. Maybe a couple years old. I don't know. It'd be a ton of stuff to get into, but it's these little berries that they talk. It looks like grapes on a vine, and people are eating these member berries.

They talk. they talk, they're like, it looks like grapes on a vine and like people are eating these member berries and they, they kind of talk like little, they talk, they have mouths and they talk like little kids and they always say member Chewbacca. And they just like keep bringing up these, they're getting, the thing is they're getting at like Disney. All they're doing is like bringing back these old things and putting it in front of you. And everyone says, well, we want it to be new and exciting, but we really want it to be nostalgic where we remember the old thing too. And it's like, that's all the, that's all we're seeing anymore is just the old stuff.

It is. Yeah. And I guess like, yeah, they got the budget. They can bring things to life. Like no one ever probably could have imagined ever. And that's good.

But I'm just not relying on a lot of like new, um, new universes, new storylines outside of Marvel, Star Wars, and kind of the things. Basically, I feel like the newness you're going to see is probably from what's Pixar going to put out for a movie? But besides that, don't plan on any. And also, I don't think that Disney is going to be coming out like Disney themselves with any hard-hitting adult content. When I say adult, I don't mean like pornographic. I mean like...

MA Mature. I mean just, yeah, more mature. NR17. Yeah. Very X-rated. Yeah, they're releasing that X-rated Disney channel. Maybe they're going to rehash Girls Gone Wild. They could be the ones to bring it back.

It won't be digitally enhanced. Featuring even more Steel Calypso drums. Yes, yes. An enhanced Steel Calypso drum. Yeah, so I mean, if you're a fan of those franchises, Disney's going to have some good stuff, but kind of going back to the original point here,

HBO, I just think they have some really really really cool series that a lot of people um it's either topics that uh mainstream tv or i shouldn't say me just major networks you know probably can't address because of yeah just politics well just the what they're allowed to show on television and just the heaviness of certain things. So I think HBO fills that gap very nicely. And yeah, I do think HBO is underrated.

Underrated on HBO, the home box office. Overrated or underrated? Bob Ross. Bob Ross. And maybe his television show, we could say, if you've ever seen it before. I have not seen many episodes of Bob Ross. I mean, I've seen... You know what it is.

You see one, you know what you're getting. There's not any shock and surprise. You've seen one, you've seen them all to an extent. It's the same thing. I remember when... Different painting. When his show came to netflix what was that probably a year or two ago yeah like it was kind of a big deal because people oh my god it's out

like the most chill relaxing thing ever uh at that time i remember coming across like kind of his biography and i guess i didn't verify how true this was but i didn't know a thing about the man do you know anything about him uh wasn't he an army vet he was like even a drill sergeant yeah he was and i think like that was his thing yeah it's like his living was like just yelling at the drill sergeant stuff like you would expect yeah and there was something like was it when he you know retired he never wanted to like he was like i gotta leave that life behind yeah i'm definitely oversimplifying this whole thing but and that's when he kind of went to the whole painting thing i don't know if he had the painting skills before or if that was something he picked

up after but then he uh kind of took his passion for painting and so where i'm torn is that anytime someone can take like something that really is a passion of theirs and like one have like this whole i mean build this image around them of people having basically nothing but good things to say like oh man he's just inspired a nation like you kind of are you kind of are immortal in the way of like people are always going to remember him as like this painter on tv right and i think he'll kind of be kids might not ever watch his show growing up now because it's probably not really on tv but right at some point you'll be subjected to a meme or something and you'll be like okay i feel like i probably am supposed to know who that guy is um i think a lot of people in maybe a more serious artistic painting world

will not be so much of a fan of his just because of its what do you call like i this is me not understanding art but he would just use these basic techniques and apply them to something where he's not really painting a specific thing. Yeah. And he just makes it look like the thing by the end of it. Yeah. He's just kind of creating. And I'm not up on my painting terms enough, but I don't think you'd call him an impressionist.

I don't know. But it's just like he's kind of making the illusion of a tree over there. Right. Right. Yeah. Exactly. He's not painting a tree. Yeah.

He's not in line with like these oil painting masters, you know, of like they're not painting a tree. Yeah, he's not in line with these oil painting masters. Right, right. Of like, they're manipulating light and shadow. Yeah, right. Tell the story and there's a deeper meaning. He's like, no, you're getting a painting of an outdoor scene here. Yeah. There's nothing more to it.

And that's also, I think, kind of the appeal is that what you see is what you get here. Right. And you know that a really happy man put it together and he used some fancy- He does it in 30 minutes. Yeah, and he used some special brushes. He does it in 30 minutes. Yeah, and he used some special brushes that made a tree in 30 seconds. A happy little tree. Yeah, a happy little tree with a happy little rabbit underneath it.

But Bob Ross is probably, when you look at his legacy and what he's done, he's still probably underrated. Okay, underrated on Bob Ross. I do like it. I do like the show. We watched a few times on Netflix. Just nostalgic. Yep.

Overrated or underrated? Last topic of the day. Overrated or underrated? All sport. All sport. Oh, crap. That was supposed to be topic one of next week. Oh, well.

Oh, boy. I really wanted to know what you thought of this last topic for this week, but I guess it's not time sensitive. I've got to wait a whole week to find out. All sports good, too. I was curious about that, but I guess we'll flip-flop them. All sports. I think a lot of people are saying, what the hell are you talking about right now? There was probably, you know, in the beverage wars of the late 90s, Tanner,

there was a few players in the game. I think we all recognize the name Gatorade. We all recognize the name Powerade. But there was also a third member. Now lesser known. There was a third member of the Beverage Sport Wars that I like to think of. That would be Allsport.

And did I see Allsport back again? I don't know. This didn't come about because me seeing that, I just thought of just for some reason Allsport was in my head the other day. i and when i think of these things i think that would be fun for overrated i'm gonna do some looking here but uh i remember all sports seeming to be more readily available when i was a kid oh yeah where i lived then we had all sport in vending machines in our school and that's what what I was going to say. I remember seeing it like being, what, fourth, fifth grade

when you're starting to kind of do little basketball tournaments with your friends. Yep. And I remember getting all sport out of vending machines. That was not uncommon at all. Seeing it in multiple places, that could be something to say about the part of the country we lived in where that was the choice. But there was somewhere along the line, wow, just seeing the packaging right now really even takes me back, Tanner.

Does that look like what you remember? Yes, it does. Very 90s. You can definitely still order the powder. And actually, the ready-to-drink 24-pack. Well, listen to this, though. Do you remember what was different about Allsport than Powered or Gatorade? I mean, maybe a few things, but one thing in particular particular it was carbonated oh it was it was carbonated oh i

didn't even know all sport originally was lightly carbonated and i just was looking at something too i didn't know this until just looking now uh but that later changed uh more recently as marketed as a non-carbonated sports drink so they changed that but at the time it was it was a carbonated drink like it sounded like a pop when you opened it up i did not know that yeah did not remember that at all um one thing that i remember in my mind and i don't know if this was right or not but for some reason i remember this is that when you could get it in the bottle i remember seeing it at one time where the label was actually like a foam insulated label okay and i don't know if that's just my brain playing tricks on me or if that was a real thing but i have just this vivid memory of a foam insulated label around my all

sport bottle which seems crazy to think of too that that could could actually be a thing. But the other thing I remember, and maybe it's just because it was carbonated, but I always also thought it seemed even more sugary than like power rating Gatorade, like even more sugar in it. And I don't know if that's accurate. Probably, but probably I don't doubt that at all.

Wow. All sport looking at these things is really, really taking me back back talk about member berries yeah this is the member berry um oh yeah it's all over amazon you can still get this stuff if you want especially the powdered drink mix there's lots of options for that out there but uh yeah all sport i'm gonna say all sport is uh all sports definitely underrated underrated on no doubt about that wow okay so we do have to wait to see what this other mystery topic was that i flubbed and uh mess up the whole i hope you don't mess up next week

tanner because it's gonna really yeah really be tough on me to have to wait another week. Probably even tougher on the listeners. I know it. So unfortunately, we do have to wait for that one because we can't do more than four in one week. Everyone knows that's in the rules. That would break the rules. I don't know if that's technically in the rules. We might have to make an addendum to the rules.

We just understand. Yeah, there's a lot of written rules with overrated underrated there's also getting to be more unwritten rules yep well it's becoming a game of tradition but it is a living living breathing creature so yep keep that in mind uh that does wrap up overrated underrated what do you think about today's uh episode do we have anything else major that we need to touch on i think we we got through all the subjects we discussed in the show notes. Mostly very

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