Massenomics Podcast - Ep.187: Dave Hoff Does it Again

Episode Date: November 4, 2019

Dave Hoff just bested himself again to put up the biggest powerlifting total of all time at 3,102 pounds.  AND he did it on ESPN.  Listen to hear our breakdown of the WPO event, and what we think the future holds for powerlifting on real media outlets. Hybrid Performance Method: https://hybridperformancemethod.com/ and use code MASS to save 5% on all programs Lifting Large: https://www.liftinglarge.com/ and use code MASS20 to save on Lifting Large branded products Spud Inc.: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/

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for the life of your membership visit hybridperformancemethod.com thank you sponsors back at episode 187 my name's tanner and the other host is tommy to. We have 187. We've got some exciting topics. Some of them are WPO is back on ESPN. We're going to talk about that. We saw some big lifts out there from WPO and otherwise that we're going to talk about in our big lift segment. Best comment of the week. Do we have a what's in the can this week? We might have a can.

What's in that can? We're going to see that. We're for sure going to go through overrated, underrated, of course. Time permitted, maybe there will be a name that lifter segment. Big Dogs 4 is coming up right around the corner. So we might be able to talk about that a little bit.

Yeah. So that's a lot of stuff. There's no shortage of topics. We're probably not going to hit, out of all those things I just said, there's a good chance we're probably not going to hit them all. We probably will miss something yeah yeah but that that's uh this what we're going to run down here that's mostly lifting related stuff is there

anything to talk about that seems really like on on topic and really focused for us maybe we should push that off for like a half hour or so right that's a jam without lifting stuff into the last bit of the show on the way over here i was thinking about some non-lifting related things i could talk about but now they're kind of escaping me do you have anything going on in your life that doesn't have to do with lifting god i'm trying to think you know i don't really have much exciting going on at the moment as much as it hates me it pains me to say that i uh someone told me that they appreciated your suggestion of the garage. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Someone said they really liked that. But it was pretty heavy stuff. And after it was over, they needed to medicate with some more Masanomics podcast to bring the mood back up a couple notches. To even it out. Yeah. Dumb it down a little bit. It was a little over serious. Well, good.

I'm glad someone found enjoyment in that. Yeah. I was thinking the other podcast when we were talking about i don't know if i've said it on here but i really have been liking uh we've talked about dave tate a few times but uh dave tate's table talk i just like yeah i gotta check that one out i still have not listened to that yeah he'll have they're long very long can be up to like three hours and they usually has a guest on there he goes like full-on joe rogan with it he does kind of and and it is probably you could draw some parallels to that you know i it doesn't really

matter the guest because i just kind of like hearing what dave has to say i mean are they focused on lifting that much are they talking about all types of stuff it's kind of like lifting and life almost, you know, like lifting and a lot of lifting, but also just like life in general and, you know, kind of focused around lifting though, for sure. But it's good. I like Dave Tate. So it's kind of, especially after he bought a shirt. Well, I mean, yeah, yeah.

He passed the test. So now we can be a fan. Before that, it was was like i don't know i wasn't going to talk about table talk but since he bought a shirt i thought we should reciprocate give him some love it's the least we could do he really needs it from us i'm sure he was waiting for a blessing he just heard that i was like yes finally they did it i'm in yeah no uh tanner i'm just the more i think about it i'm just like god why God, why am I so... Are you doing Halloween, Tanner? Do you have a Halloween costume this year?

No, my kids both do. I do not have one prepared. How about you? I don't either. I'm trying to think. This might be... I mean, something crazy can always happen. I've put multiple last-second Halloween costumes together,

but as of right now, I do not have a Halloween costume picked out. This is a good topic. You know, though, what is the trending Halloween costume of choice this year? Okay. If I had to guess, my first guess would be the Joker. No, you're wearing half of it right now.

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Or you're wearing a good portion of it. You know what, actually? Okay. I don't know if I've ever told you about this um we might even have to watch a second of this there is a speaking we're talking about our benching 315 shirt is what i'm wearing um and there's been some guys uh dressing up as stone cold wearing our benching 315 shirt uh there is a youtube video that is so funny okay i got i gotta pull up just i'm not gonna play the whole thing uh-huh but

is it where that charlie bit the kid's finger no no not that one not that one but you're close tanner uh so if you're a fan of stone cold i now what it is just since the people listening won't be able to hear this uh this video was uploaded seven years ago by fizzy pops 3434 has five million views i have no idea if this guy has any other videos at all yeah but what he does is he this guy goes through i think it's it might what he does is he, this guy goes through, I think it might be a White Castle. He's in a fast food drive-through. And he's wearing an ET mask, like the movie ET.

So he has the ET mask on, driving his car. And he is talking and ordering like he's Stone Cold. And he has the voice down great. And he refers to himself as Stone Cold ET and it makes no sense at all. Let me just see if I can get some volume here just so people can kind of hear what's going on. So it's called Stone Cold ET. What's the video if you were to search it again?

Yeah, just Stone Cold et is all you got to type in and that will bring it up um here we'll play we'll play the first couple seconds tanner i'll turn this so you can you see it there tanner yep i got okay here let me get my mic situated so people can listen in here we go this is stone cold et and I just want to order a cup of White Castle to go. So, sir, can you repeat that again? I said Stone Cold E.T. would like a cup of cheeseburgers and maybe a drink. And I'd like to get out of here as soon as possible and dance the bottom line. I can't understand anything

you're saying. Okay, you want Stone Cold ET to come inside? Just pull up to the third window. Okay. It is a good voice. They can't understand him, so they have him pull ahead. So now he's driving his car

with this ET mask on. And then he gets up and he's up to the drive-thru window and the people are looking at him like what the hell is this guy doing they don't want to go to the window finally when they do this is stone cold et and i want to order a cup of cheeseburgers and that's the bomb right this is stone cold et and i want to order a cup of cheeseburgers And that's the bomb, right?

Cause you know Stone Cold E.T. Like to come to White Castle Order a cup of cheeseburgers To fill me up Before I whoop some ass Give me a hell yeah If you're down At Stone Cold E.T.

Oh hell yeah. And he just goes on for like multiple minutes. He's good, too. Yeah, he does it all. And he starts going on about, when I'm whipping Vince McMahon's ass. And growing up, I should say like college years, this was maybe the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life at that time. It is good.

Tanner, now my mic is not tight. The mic's not tight. It's not going to stay in place. This whole podcast is going to go to shambles if you can't keep that on tight. Oh. Got it. One full rotation. That's all it took.

Oh, yeah. Go watch the Stone Cold E.T. clip, people. And maybe someone should be Stone Cold E.T. for Halloween. Yeah. Might not be a lot of people that get it but if someone is at a party and they get stone cold et man you could be friends for life at that point um so that's that's my recommendation i guess it's good but uh halloween costumes no i don't have one tanner yeah i i do not either i guess i could go as Stone Cold, wear the Bench in 315 shirt,

bust out a pair of jorts, and black knee pads, turn my SPDs inside out. Oh, you could be the smelly guy at the party. That's a good point. Who are you? Oh, I'm just a smelly guy. That's all I am. I'm just the guy from the gym that smells really bad.

Oh, man, that is a faithful recreation. You did not cheap out on this costume. Very authentic. Tanner, I think it's time for some refreshing beverages. All right. I was hoping there was going to be what's in the can. I really hit them this time. Well, that's how you know they're the good ones,

when you've got to go extra far to get them. Anything in life that's worth having is worth getting up out of your podcast traveling way too far for all right as usual tanner i don't want you to be looking at the can you're allowed to look at the koozie but not the can okay um and i really try to stick i try not to cheat because it's much more fun uh well yeah this is a uh you, yeah, this is a real game we have here, so cheating ruins it in its entirety. I feel refreshed. I was just laughing, wondering if it's a peach pear LaCroix. No.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Maybe it hits you with a triple player. Got to go with LaCroix. No. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. Maybe it hits you with a triple player. I've got to go with LaCroix again. I don't think it's peach pear. I'm going to say it is not. If you trick me a third time here, I'm really going to feel stupid. That's fool me three times.

Shame on me. Okay. It's a LaCroix. That is correct. I will give you that much. And it tastes pretty good. I mean, that's kind of a redundant statement. That's true.

I'm just saying the same thing twice. You did say the same thing twice there. It is a good one. What is that though? If I could give you a hint without telling you anything about the flavor, I would say smell it first. For me, that's what really helped with this one. That still might not help though.

And like all of them, if you don't get it, I know you're going to say, yes, of course, it's going to say the flavor. i saw a funny meme today that somebody sent me that said they say that a dog's sense of smell is so strong and and so active so good that they think that dogs might even be able to taste a la croix they might be able to sense the flavor of a LaCroix. I don't know. I've guessed Pomplemousse like four times and I'd hate for it to be Pomplemousse and me not to guess it.

So I'm going to guess again Pomplemousse, LaCroix. Tanner, I am happy to report that you are wrong again. Just wait, let me see if I cannot place my finger on this flavor it's not is it the lemon lime again so we've had we've had lime before this one is lemon

the best part of this game is i don't think you can ever win and i'm laughing because i'm thinking like if i'm on the other side of this would i ever get these i don't know if I would. This one tastes a lot like the lemon lime one that we already had, I guess. It tastes kind of like, because it tastes like a Sprite again. Yeah. Let me see. Yeah.

To me, like this one, you can almost smell lemon. I thought I almost could, but. It tastes good. But I don't know if it tastes very much different than the lime one to me. Not a whole lot, no. No. No. I don't know for sure if I had them both if I'd be able to tell the difference.

It is good, though, and I was thirsty, and it just does taste really good right now. So it brings us to the best part of what's in the can probably is we have to rate it on a scale from zero to five jd power and associates awards how many jd power and associates associates awards would you give the lemon lacroix well or do you say limone uh i say i say actually you know what i haven't looked at i'm gonna go with lemon i'll go with lemon there's no funny little squiggle over the O. There's no accent mark. So what makes this tough for me is I believe last week or two weeks ago, I said my podium for LaCroix is lime, Pamplemousse, and peach pear. Yep. Well, two weeks ago, I had never had a lemon before.

And now it's really got me rethinking my podium. But at the same time, I want to put this up there because it's so similar to the lime that I feel like it belongs up there. But also, I don't want two of the same flavors on the podium either. That's a good point. So with that, I want to give it like a 3.75,

like a strong three to a four. I don't want to give it a three and a half. I don't know if a 3.75 is allowed a strong three to a four um i don't want to give it a three and a half i don't know if a 3.75 is allowed though tanner i don't know if allowed quarter stars quarter stars which the stars represent jd power and associates awards yeah a quarter of a jd power yeah it's like maybe just the base of the trophy is all yeah i don't know i mean yeah i think that i think we could allow it like i i would okay i would put this if i established my podium this would be the first runner up okay to the podium yeah always a bridesmaid yep always a bridesmaid so i would i'm gonna say it's just just short of a four is how i would describe this one you know it's still in my top four flavors though i think

it's it's like they always say if life gives you something that barely, almost tastes like a slight hint of a lemon, make lemon LaCroix. Make that lemon LaCroix. I would give it a four, J.D. Power and Associates Awards. I think it's good. It's pretty tasty. I like LaCroix, so it's, you know, it's hard to go wrong here. Three and a half, four lot of three and a half, fours, even four and a half.

So we have the LaCroix's. They're tasty beverages. That's the name of the game. We're talking best in class beverages. We're still waiting for that LaCroix sponsorship too. Add it to our arsenal of sponsors. I guess we'll keep doing this long free segment every week where we advertise for them.

Yes. You're welcome, Mr. LaCroix. Yep, yep you're welcome mr lacroix yep yep mr lacroix um should we talk about lifting now tanner i think it's a time for lifting yeah it's it's that time again what part of what part of lifting you want to talk about first well the part where you pick it up or put it down well you can't have one without the other that is true uh the wpo did air on espn it was on streamed on espn 3 and that was what day that was monday this monday afternoon is when it aired not sure why that was the time very odd day for me yeah odd day and time for me too but i i suppose what would you guess that has something to do with what espn said so they did it then i'm maybe

it's odd i watched it i pulled it up on my computer this was after i pulled it up monday night and it was five hours long so it must have aired for from like 1 p.m until like 6 p.m on monday but it was actually over by the time i got to it so i had all five hours there and i skimmed it and what i mostly found myself skimming for is just dave hoff's nine lifts or seven lifts he only lifts lifted seven times the rest of it it was a bunch of people that i just don't know because i don't follow quick power lifting close enough yeah i i did watch some of them here and there because i'd skip around and i'd i'd get to something if it looked interesting to me i would watch it and then you know some of the other bigger squats and stuff like that you didn't see any of it did you or did i just i caught

so i i caught all the dave's lifts on instagram i saw someone had them on so i saw those yeah um i saw donnie thompson had some clips of he was i did watch dot wasn't he kind of guest announcer he was the color commentator i would say you know they were there's there was an espn guy you know so it was chris berman i think and then there was uh donnie thompson was the color commentator i would call it which is a good guy to have that he would do he did a few demos between the lifts like before the squat before the bench before the deadlift you know he would kind of like how back in the day you'd always see like calves yeah yeah all right this is what they're gonna do here and that's what they do and he'd show off the um the monolift and that sort of

thing and i donnie did a really good job you know with his commentating i thought like you could tell that he's seen these things before yes yes and uh he was very much like the donnie thompson that we know. We've actually had some really interesting conversations with Donnie Thompson, actually standing outside of a bar in Columbus, Ohio. We had one of the more eye-opening conversations that I would say we've had at the Arnold over the years. Probably can't really talk about everything that we talked about even, but really, it was the type of thing we walked away from and we're like did does he think we were someone else yeah like did that just happen like yeah that was crazy that we were just talking

about that with donnie thompson outside of this bar yeah um but he did a good job you know as far as the lifts goes i watched all of dave hoffs he i think he what did he did two squats didn't take a third he did three benches and he did two deadlifts didn't take a third so we went for seven for seven and you know you you're in the same boat we don't really follow equipped power lifting that much we don't know that much about it we've never done it you know the stigma is always that squats are high benches are weird and not lucky don't lock out and like if we're specifically talking about dave hoffs i left because that's my thing i think like oh they're high and they you know they're sketchy and all this stuff and i watch his stuff and i was like his lifting to me was really good i was i was going to say too yes i was impressed with of of his clips i mean we've even talked about some of his lists before in the

podcast just in our humble opinions of how it looks yeah and like we've said he has deadlifts in the past where they don't look like they're locked out right it looks like he dropped the bar things like that and i was watching like this is as far as i know the cleanest lifts of his i've ever seen right yeah um i thought both his deadlifts look clean to me both of his deadlifts were uh as far as i'm concerned pass in any federation i would agree with that and his benches his first two were really clean his third one where he went like 1014 pounds it kind of got to that thing where the lockout where where they kind of grabbed me like it wasn't locked out like i feel like he didn't have to go that but it's still pretty good and yeah and to me that's kind of equipped lifting right yeah i don't know what

the car i don't exactly watch you i don't know what the call is on that like me either but overall his benching even looked really good and i thought his, as far as what I've come to expect from equipped powerlifting, I thought his squats looked pretty good. That was exactly what I was like. That looks good to me. I don't know. I would say compared to a raw squat, did it look high? Well, yes.

But we're used to raw squat. That's what we watch. But like multi-ply squats where the standard is like, whoa, okay. And where their stance is so wide that it just looks like a different movement. Yeah, I was like, well, based off of like the standard that I feel like has been set, I think this is exceeding most standards. Yeah, I think so too. So to me, it was one of the more convincing like multi-ply performances I've ever seen,

which is, again, a a very very small right uh pool of performances ever but uh it looked pretty convincing yeah so dave totaled 3102 yes 31 which is uh crushed his old world record by almost 100 pounds he set he did the have he's that what was the squat 1273 1273 squat that is the biggest squat ever what what was the biggest squat ever before that i'm not sure if he had it that i think he maybe hit it was also his or unless donnie had it or something but 12 something it is it was yeah it's in the 12s i think and then his bench what is that 10 14 it says all that's that is a that is a full power world record because the heavy is right in there it's close it's a little bit less that's a blaine's bench only a thousand three oh it is his

full power is like 950 grand that single ply yep but because i checked amongst single ply or multi-ply or any benching ever in a full meet that's the heaviest bench ever in a full meet okay and uh dave is not a super heavyweight he's a 308 so his total and squat and bench are bigger than anyone in the super heavyweight class ever did too you know donnie competed in a was the first to total 3000 and he was a super heavyweight and then his deadlift was 8 15 yeah and you would think out of all of them well compared to the normal population that's the number that has the potential to go up 100 pounds you know right yeah yeah but i don't know if that's going to happen at this point in time his 8 15 looked easy like it did though it did if he would have went and done 50 50 more pounds for a

third attempt i wouldn't have been that surprised no and i i'm assuming that well i shouldn't assume but i'm guessing 815 is up there with some of his best deadlift like i don't think he's ever done an 850 plus yeah no uh i i he's done a little bit more than that 815 yeah he's done like a but he hasn't just crushed that no no he's done like an 835 or something like that before but overall like on positive notes i would say obviously it's cool that it's just even on espn yes whatsoever you know people are talking about well it's on espn 3 you don't say it's on espn it's on espn 3 and that stuff like that like i guess but it's also power lifting and it's on ESPN of some sort. It's not a YouTube live stream.

And Donnie Thompson, the other guy, did really good. They have actual announcers. Yeah, it was actual announcers, like real camera stuff going on. And it did look like the venue was set up pretty legit, too. I think it was set up pretty good. It wasn't just, this is a hotel, this is the curtain, you walk out. It looked like there was some lighting. There was some thought put into the whole environment that was created.

Yep. I did think that was good. I do think like I'm not saying this as a negative, but just maybe from my expectation. Like I picture the WPO as just like crazy and just insanity. And it just looked cleaner than that. Like it's probably by design to be on. You know, just. I would think like, yeah, you don't want people bashing their heads

and blood pouring out before they go do squats. Because like, well, that's not exactly an image you're trying to portray of like sportsmanship of any kind. Yeah. And I'm thinking I'm probably just thinking of like these montages that have been created. Yeah, that you see over time. Of just the most extreme clips of people getting hyped up ever and that's not really real life

you're like in real life it's five hours of a lot of boring stuff yeah you know and there's just any power lifting meet and then there's a minute or two of something exciting sprinkled in yeah every every hour there's like one all-time world record that's getting attempted or something like that it's not every other lift no and so that i thought dave was pretty impressive and obviously his total was impressive you know there's he he said something about being the number one power lifter ranked power lifter of all time now and there's raw people that are taking offense to that because you know he just said power lifter and whatever i don't think anybody cares really who cares what is a power yeah exactly anymore but um amongst a lot of the other lifters you know that other stuff i was talking about of what i remember from equipped i did see quite a bit of

that as i was skimming through a lot of some of the squats where i was like they got red lighted as they should have oh but i was like who would ever that is not squatting yeah that and i i know it's a challenge in like that's part of the challenge when you're lifting equipped is even making it but i'm like man that is so high like if someone uh was was lifting wrong came out and did that you'd be like this guy doing someone someone told what them what goes on here like uh and a lot you know those benches where it's like i don't did he even move i don't yeah like by the time they let it out to him and he and he lets his elbows kind of settle a little bit it goes down six more inches and then it yeah so so that's just a barrier for like me personally that with equipped power lifting you

know when i watch that i'm kind of like it's just not what i'm used to so i don't like it as well yeah it's just that's just a personal thing yeah it's just same thing for it was just less relatable to the two of us because we don't compete that way and right um the majority of people don't so when things are less relatable people are just going to be less interested i think in general i do think it was all executed pretty well as far as the how it was presented and i'm just you know if like if we ever want raw if if people ever want raw power lifting to be on espn at some point in time like this has got to be good for it you know like you want this to go well in order if if you want more power lifting to have more exposure like you want people that are out there like oh i hope it crashes and burns because it's equipped power lifting oh yeah yeah nothing like cannibalizing yourself in this whole thing right as far as the

outside world is concerned it's power lifting the only people that at this point that even understand the differences there's there's 10 000 of us in the world that kind of know like well god and ticket and you, there's a few levels. One, people don't even know what it is. People that call it weightlifting don't even know that there's a difference there. Right. And then there's the people that understand that there is a difference between the different groups of powerlifting on top of that. Right.

So, yeah, it's like talking about appealing to, like, a percent of a percent. Yeah. Yeah, it's like talking about appealing to like a percent of a percent. Yeah. Did you see there's a lot of people jawjacking on the internet about the Dave Hoff thing after it that people calling him out that they'll put up money for him to compete at Big Dogs 5. Oh, really? Prove that you're the best power lifter.

Oh, no, I didn't see that. And I'm like, I would say i would love to see him lift in a raw meat because he is enormous and extremely strong because i just peer out of just curiosity would like to see what he wants to do raw but i don't think it's his job to have like that's apparently not what he's interested in so i don't think everyone's test right like well this is what proves if you're the best right yeah so because the alternative would be like well why doesn't dan bill andre milanich of eric littlebridge why don't they all go lift equipped to go against them you know would be what you would say yes same thing yeah if they want to say they're the best in their weight class well they

don't do that lifting why do they care about that yeah yeah it's the same thing i mean we're just but i just think it would be really just cool to see dave hoff do that yes i 100% want to know yeah i 100% agree that either way would be cool for dave to go do raw or for any of those other guys to just do a multiply and see if they can put 500 pounds on their total or more you know whatever it is um but i i have do not have the belief that that that legitimizes anything no by having it would just be cool to watch it would be cool but to me it doesn't if they did it great yeah it does add to it but not doing it doesn't to me subtract anything from it and then you know something i thought we're talking about that

something that i thought would be really cool that's more realistic what if blaine sumner took bowed out of the ipf for a year and said i'm gonna go lift in a multi-ply meet that one would be really cool and it's like can could blaine give these numbers a run for their money in multi-ply i know that's what and like do you want to say to a looser standard doesn't have to worry about keeping his head on the bench anymore which is i think his biggest problem benji and he and i don't know anything about bench shirts but he's benched a thousand three in a single ply bench yeah so with some and he's not foreign to equipped lifting i i just don't know i don't know the nuances of how different like in your head says well if one if one caught if one ply does, then the multi-ply does really, like, that's what your head wants to think. And, like, on squats, like, he does 1,000 to 1,100 pounds

every week in the gym. Really fast. Yes. But then, you know, or does he throw on one of those squat suits and, like, can't even do it? And now he's not in his right position because it's fighting him. Yeah, I don't know. But that would be a cool thing to see.

Like if he had a monolith, you have to worry about walking out, all that stuff. Yes. Yeah. You really do want to think like what could be there if he decided to do that. Yes. It seems like the sky would be the limit in that case.

I feel like people are missing the mark. I think everyone wants to talk about these people switching that but blaine sumner competing competing against dave uh multiply is the thing that i that's the thing that i think people should pay money to see because that would be really interesting you get like the ipf uh yep and there's obviously a weight difference between oh sure yes so blaine's 400 pounds even if if he beats him, it's like, well, okay, yeah, you weigh 100 more pounds, sure. I don't think that says anything that Dave isn't a formidable opponent at that point. But it could be a really cool showdown between the two of them.

Even if they just want to do an exhibition-type meet where it's just those two, that would be really cool. Also, another note from the WPO, the color changing of people's faces that go on during these squats is like, my God, that looks terrible. Like from red to white, purple. And I'm like, holy cow, that's a whole nother level than like a really heavy raw squat. Even like that does not look fun. I'm going to have to try and find some of these.

Yeah, I tried. I saw Spud Inc. had on Instagram. They had a picture and like, oh, watching this all day today. Yeah. And then I'm like, oh, I'll run upstairs quick and just see. Is ESPN, like what, or just see if I can catch it on. I have Hulu and ESPN3 I do not believe is on Hulu at all. It must be only live or only online. I think it's streaming, yeah.

Is it only online? Because I just clicked it onto my computer and it popped yeah that must have been it and then i'm like well don't see it i got work to do and then i never thought about it yeah um i enjoyed being able to just click through it and watching it later because i personally would not have enjoyed watching that for five hours because there's very few things other than like on a sunday when i don't want to do anything. And you know when Netflix asks you, Are you still watching? Yeah. That's the most insulting thing that Netflix does is,

Are you really still watching this, you lazy bastard? Like, are you really doing that? I'm not going to get through a whole season of The Office by not sitting here all day. Exactly. Let's be real. We know we're both going to be here a while. I have to see what happens to Michael for the 13th time in my life.

Figure out how this Michael Scott paper company thing actually works. Just like that. That's kind of all I had on the WPO. Interesting that it's on ESPN. I'd like to see more power lifting. I think it's, I think it's a move in the right direction. And anyone that complains about it is probably missing the bigger picture.

Yeah. There's a lot of stupid complaining that goes, a lot of stuff that could fit into best comment of the week. Oh, I'm sure you could fill pages of, we could fill the rest of the show with best comments of the week, I'm sure, with what people say about that. And maybe I'm a little biased too because Michael Fahey, the

director of West Side vs. The World has always been really nice to us and we've communicated with him over some things and just know that he's a pretty good guy and trying to do good things. So when people are complaining, it's kind of annoying. You could make the argument he's doing more for the exposure powerlifting

than almost anyone in powerlifting. Yes, exactly. Yeah, very true. A very popular documentary that's on Netflix and putting powerlifting on ESPN all in the same year. That's a very good point. Most people can't say they've done anything like that most people haven't done anything i mean i'll take away instagram most people have done absolutely nothing you could make the argument that instagram probably isn't doing anything either but no um we're all just circling each other i'm like yeah just everyone's just yeah

just just yeah just instagram circles all it is i'm like yeah just everyone's just yeah just just yeah just instagram circles all it is it's like yeah that's really getting the masses involved here um but yeah outside of your direct reach on instagram you're probably not having much of an influence so i want to assume a documentary on netflix and getting something on espn3 probably is doing more for the general public than right your shitty instagram account i mean that's coming from people that run a shitty account so because we we're experts on Probably is doing more for the general public than your shitty Instagram account. I mean, that's coming from people that run a shitty Instagram account. Because we're experts on it.

Oh, yeah. We know exactly how it goes. This is our life, man. That's right. Yep. We were born into this. All right, Tanner. Do we have any more WPO talk?

Oh, that's probably about it until next year. Okay. Well, hopefully they bring it back next year. Yeah, well, TBD. TBD. I do. I do, honestly, though. Hope we see more of that stuff. I do.

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figure out more analogies about money yeah i'm sure there's i'm sure there's at least one or two more out there yeah uh tanner what was the other thing we were talking about we just had such an extensive list big oh that was the one yeah there you go there you go that's what okay i should probably grab the old computer machine here so we so we know what we're talking about so this came out of nowhere on me um guess i'm out of the loop these days but big dogs is actually by the time you're hearing this big dogs already happened yeah and this upcoming weekend like i know is it always in the fall right now yeah i think this was about the same time it was last year i think it's about the same as last year

maybe i'm just following the wrong accounts but i've seen like zero talk about this online normally i see big dogs hyped and maybe it is because there is a very big decline in american lifters right i don't know if there's any american lifters this year that's probably why i'm not seen yes i think that's a big part of it and that's that's the biggest note for me and big dogs is that i was excited for josh morris to do it and burley hawk out of west side barbell it's probably most excited to see burley hawk do it out of west side barbell because i want to see what those guys you know what those raw lifters can lift and along with the best in the world and i don't know why either of them aren't doing it uh everything anytime either of them post anything on instagram

someone comments are you still doing big dogs this year and there's usually never a reply it's a sensitive subject i guess that's and i they're both still training i know that and brady hawk did a meet a few a month or two ago that you know he didn't it's like the thing it's like you can't even post about that he had like there's no posting that he even did a meet but as if you look at powerlifting he just did one really um nothing nothing escapes their eyes yeah but so i don't know i guess it it's a little flatter now to me that those two aren't doing it because those are probably the two that i was most excited to watch compete at big dogs and with brandon allen hurt of course he he's out

of it and no eric willie bridge no andre milanchev yeah uh most exciting though is yuri is still competing that that probably honestly is the most exciting one in the lineup just because size wise he does not belong no exactly you know but he could he could win it it's totally possible that would be very cool to see it would be i don't know if that makes big dogs look good or bad though right you know i don't know i don't know what that says about the competition if he wins graham hicks doing it as a strong man that's still interesting to me. I know he's still competing.

Odell Manuel, I think he got second last year, so he's still in it. And then Dylan Hellarigo, I know that name. That would be the next most exciting one. We've said this before. I don't know Gawain Johnstone. He's got a really big squat. I think he's Australian.

I don't know Eric Carr. I don't know any of the rest of them. I don't know any of these other people. I don't know Eric Carr. I don't know any of the rest of them. I don't know any of these other people. I don't know. That's really all I can say about it. I don't know. I wish J-Mo and Burley Hawk were both doing it. Yeah, that would be really, really exciting.

Just some people that I feel like we recognize more. Yeah, yeah. Which would probably just mean American people. Right, but that's kind of what's going to draw the American audience. Kind of. It's having some of those big Americans doing it. People that you recognize. Right.

That are on the home team. Yes. No Dan Bell there this year. Yeah. No, what's his name out of Oregon? The Pacific Northwest, Sean Doyle. Oh, yeah. I don't think he's doing it either.

Yeah. Well, there's only one two so here's the one two three four five six seven eight guys you gotta assume one or two are gonna either be hurt before they get there or get hurt in squats so it's like down to like six people it's like a really fast moving flight yeah it's a very it's getting to be a very small like this has to be the smallest lineup i would think that that's how is that the lineup before was like 10 or 12 wasn't it yeah that's what i would think is about uh about 10 yeah so yeah i don't it's like what does it take to get

people to do this thing i don't know yeah because he puts up money for it i don't know if it's just the traveling to australia is that much of a pain in the ass it's hard to say yeah yeah i i don't know so who do you think's gonna win who you're gonna pick we'll pick our i'll say odell yeah you got second last year i'm gonna pick dylan heller eagle he he was the guy that he what did he squatted a thousand and deadlifted 900 in the first person to do that first person to squat a thousand deadlift 900 in one meet i think is that first person to squat a thousand deadlift 900 and one meet i think is what he did this last year maybe i'm off on that but i think that's the fact um so i'll pick what's your podium i guess we'll do a podium i'm gonna say odell uh dylan hell

regal and yuri belkin i think it'll be three. I would also take those three and I'll go Dylan, Odell, Uri Belkin. You got a shot, Taylor. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. There's a lot riding on these predictions. There's a lot. But I also like, for a while I've been curious if Burley Hawk or JMO if either of them were going to be lifting and like when I know it's like I get it they don't want to focus on the people that

aren't doing the competition like that's kind of thing they're like well let's focus on the people that are doing it but I also you know people also want to know. Give me a roster. Yeah, right. That's not that weird of a thing for any sporting event to know who's competing, actually. Yes. But that probably only hurts attendance by them telling that. Right. It definitely will. And I think that's why it's like that. That's why when you ask, nobody wants to just jump out and say, you know, that Marcos isn't like,

Oh, Burley Heck backed out three weeks ago and jmo backed out four weeks ago i assure you the show will be fine people just show up yes we'll all be all right yeah that's a tough sell sometimes boy if yuri wasn't doing it though like at least over here in the united states the excitement of the whole thing would be really far down yeah yep definitely uh and also with it though this is also the introduction of wild cats yes first time so wild cats will be the women's meet uh do you know i think it's all australian women i think i think that that's what the plan was is there any weight cap on the women's one did is i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know. I don't know the reason either, but they have like 16 women, it looks like.

I don't recognize any of the names just because I don't follow women's powerlifting close enough. From what I understood, I think it's like all Australian women this year, and it's to get it started and hopefully to grow it from here, and I think the idea would eventually be to have it be more like Big Dog. I mean, it is like it obviously it's called wild cats you know there's a certainly a comparison and yeah somewhere in there uh but i i don't know we'll be there's prize money for it too not as much as for the men and i

know some people are we're worrying about that but i don't know they're getting it started and they're giving some prize money and hoping to grow it to be more i'm sure too so if it does well i yeah i don't know why i can't yeah just get bigger but yeah it's a new division right first of its kind as far as this meet goes it just yeah i think it takes some time to get going but right um yeah it'd be cool to see both of these uh be cool to see both of these continue to thrive. Yes. You know, good for the sport. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Is that what they say? I'm not sure.

I don't know who would actually say it. I've just heard that. I don't really know what it means to think about it. There was a... Well, there's two things I want to talk about here. First one we'll talk about quickly. Best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week. Ooh, I like me a good comment those for a little bit and I wanted to point this one out because I just feel like it's just such a dick move

I it was on one of our bench in 315 posts you know could have I think it was on maybe one of the guys that wore it as a halloween costume even or something like that. And someone that doesn't follow us comments and they go, who can't bench 315? Serious comment. Like just like making fun of anyone that can't bench 315. Hey everyone, I bench 315. And I also want to think like the person saying that probably doesn't bench 400.

Yeah. You know, like they say it like they're benching 500, 600 pounds. Right. Even if you did, what's to say benching 315 means you're doing it once? Can you bench 315 20 times? Right. You know? Yeah, right.

And that's the whole point with the shirt anyways. It's not about benching 315 once. It's about what, you know. It's a milestone for whether it is once or it's aspirational or you're doing it 10 times or 15 times. Right. There's still someone that can do it more than you can. Exactly.

And there's actually still probably a lot of people that can do it more than you can. Well, and everyone, like this guy included at one point in time, I bet he couldn't bench 315. Absolutely. You did go to the gym at some point to get to bench 315. Right. Exactly. And it's just like putting people down just because they can't do something that you can. That's such a douchey thing.

It's like the lamest form of bullying. Yeah. We have a gym full of people that would never say something like that. But that's the thing. Do you honestly go into the gym and someone's benching 315 and're like really that's all they're doing no one like but are you that person that stands in the corner you're just like oh god i remember when i benched 315 for the first time this guy trying to bench 315 this guy trying to get better like are you yeah are you just that miserable of a person to be like who who could like honestly someone benched 315 be like oh and like they're

excited for it and you're just like no there will be no celebrating enough for me there will be no celebrating i i benched more than that so i do not care about like what's your number so it's 405 it's right if i have a respectable number because there's a lot of people that bench way more than 405 so do like is it now like well more people bench 405 than me, so we don't get excited about this one either? Where is that line? And to me, it's always been, well, just someone getting better than what they did. Like it doesn't, I don't know. Like if someone benches 315 and they said, I'm the best in the world, I bench 315,

that's a very different attitude. But at no point was that ever part of the conversation at all. Right that's just a really lame thing to do i think yeah i mean to be to partake in powerlifting and stuff it's a pretty low barrier for entries so you get a lot of people like that in here that's true and it's very low low barrier of entry to make a comment on instagram also true okay so that was our uh best instagram slash youtube comment of the week and now we also had a big lift segment this week and one making it into big lifts we haven't covered this segment for a while but this one was very deserving of it it's actually not even a completed lift though but it's worth talking about still noteworthy yeah ivan makarov is, is he Georgian?

Something like that. Yeah, I don't know where he is for sure. He attempted a 501-kilogram deadlift, which significance of that, one kilogram more than Eddie Hall's record. This was just at the gym. It wasn't in an official competition. Did you watch the lift?

I did see the video. It really shot up off the ground moved really fast even past the knees yeah and then it it stopped in a hurry yeah and it almost i don't know that he got hurt or did anything but it almost kind of like fell backwards sort of um but that's just pretty impressive to see him that he just did that i think it kind of looks like this guy might be able to do that at some point in time. It seems like he's making a legit run at it to lift it that as far as he did as fast as he did. It seems like there's just a piece of the puzzle just missing to be able to

lock that out. That is exactly what it seems like. It's within reach. I would think now probably the issue is staying healthy in order to get, I don't think you can touch that. Oh, the Arnold is the perfect example. Once you start dead lifting over a thousand pounds things just start breaking right that's just the nature of the human body and also what's this guy doing that he's attempting

that like uh in the gym in the gym what's his yeah yeah don't you save that it's like just one of these yolo lifts like i'm just gonna go for it man see what happens yeah so so maybe maybe this was just he had a good train day and he's going for it and it's like the real deal is coming in a couple weeks i don't know this is what he's trying in the gym what was he planning on doing at some competition he did have a suit on i think two thousand so he's like we're gonna he might have had we could deadlift 501 kilograms if we wore a suit. Add in the suit, add in straps. I mean, that would easily double my deadlift. So yeah, I'd be at 1,000 pounds for sure then.

I'd be at 1,100, no problem. Exactly. Yep, I'd be good to go. So yeah, that's what it is. The suit. So yeah, come to think of it, this wasn't a big lift segment. No, actually, this is an everyday average lift segment.

Yeah, average gym lift segment uh and then of course dave hoff's performance right would fall would fall under this umbrella too but we've already we already gave that its own segment really too yeah now what do we have time left well we're getting down there on time we're at about 54 minutes tanner oh we so i'll let you decide what that means for time for us let's well we do have name that lifter that we could do but i think it's going to be a good one so we're going to want we're not going to want to have to rush through name that lifter and we can't skip overrated underrated so i think we have to go to overrated underrated you do got a point yeah

but uh before we get into this week's overrated underrated i did remember this week to put last week's up on the instagram story so we can recap how the people voted in comparison to what you said the first topic from last week was hibachi grill you said i said underrated underrated the people agreed 59 underrated yep that's what it was at about when i saw so uh vaping you said overrated this might be the this may be the strongest ever vote this may be the most one-sided vote ever from overrated underrated online 91 overrated wow i'm almost curious about the nine percenters though i think it's actually just a joke well okay it's actually like if you're trying to quit smoking it's actually like a really good way to do it. Is that good though even?

Wikipedia, you said underrated. 81% underrated. Very strong. Yeah. South Park, you said underrated. 69% underrated. That's a pretty good showing for a television show. Yeah.

Not too often that I get that. No. I think on one of these though, on the Instagram story, you made a television show. Yeah. Not too often that I get that. No. Hmm. I think on one of these, though, you, on the Instagram story, you made a funny boat.

Well, I accidentally, I was, I was clicking, I was, I was laughing at your vaping picture because it was Lloyd Christmas from Dumb and Dumber. Yeah.

And I was trying to read it and I'm like, oh, it's going to change. I was about to hold my finger down and the second I pushed my finger down to hold it, I voted on the one before. I'm like, Oh, it's going to change. I was about to hold my finger down. And the second I pushed my finger down to hold it, I voted on the one before I'm like,

Oh, what the hell? Yeah. I did really like that picture that you had on that one. Yeah. Cause it was like Christmas making a funny, like when he's like making like his gagging face. Yeah.

How vapors look without the clouds. That is funny. I like that. Yeah. Okay. So now we're going to jump into this week's Overrated Underrated. Really the topic at hand, the reason that we do the entire podcast is to get to this moment in time right now. It's the over-under podcast now.

Right. The overrated underrated podcast about nothing. Exactly. Okay. Topic number one on this week's Overrated or Underrated. Your job is to tell me whether you think it is overrated or underrated. Topic one, Denzel Washington. or underrated your job is to tell me whether you think it is overrated or underrated topic one denzel washington denzel washington i have i will admit i have not seen very many denzel washington movies um remember the titans i saw training day i... I've gone...

I've complained for long amounts of time to my wife about sports movies. I have a very hard time with sports movies. Really, really hard time with sports movies. Just because you're pretty... Sports movies are a lot like superhero movies. They're either the ragtag group of up-and-comers and they kind of get slapped in the face

and then there's the training montage, and there's the big battle at the end, and they come around. That is how I feel about most sports movies, and they're all so freaking cheesy. So that's why I have a really hard time. I mean, I know we're talking about just remember the Titans here,

but was he Coach Carter too? I don't think that's right. That's how little... I'm not sure, but I've never seen that like that's how little i'm not sure but i've never seen that's how little i pay attention to sports movies um do you like hoosiers never seen it oh never seen it i just gene hackman i almost like i said i almost do not watch sports movies i just can't can't do them i mean i've seen uh cool runnings uh but i've seen airbud before too if that counts sports animal movies that's a whole separate that's a sub segment that's that's where i come alive no um god i just i have not seen enough denzel movies to really have a strong opinion on him.

Everyone says he's a great actor, which means he is rated highly. That's true. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm going to say underrated. Underrated for Denzel Washington. I'm going to say underrated. Okay. He has electric performances from what I've seen,

but I don't have enough to say that he's rated too high. Do you like Training Day? Never seen it. Really? Never seen it. Oh, you should watch that. I know I should. I've never seen it.

I think I've caught the end of that movie on TV eight different times, but I've never actually seen it. Sit down and watch the whole thing. Never seen it. Okay. This next topic leaves some leave some interpretation okay it's it's odd and broad and vague but we'll let you i'll throw it out there and you go all words um i like overrated underrated taking notes taking notes I have a very strong opinion.

Taking notes is very underrated. I think there's a thing about whenever you're trying to learn something or do anything for that matter, the fact of your brain, taking it out of your brain and doing it analog. I guess you can take notes on the computer too, but something about taking things out of your brain and putting them on paper, it does a weird magical thing. And people might argue me on this, but there is definitely something

about getting thoughts and making them physical. And the fact that you can, when you're taking notes by hand, especially like you can like draw things up crazy fast, like I for a living do and draw things up on the computer all day. And I like to think that I'm probably faster than almost anyone, you know,

about doing these things. Like I can fly around on a computer, like fly around on this thing, man, but still can't do anything as fast as you can like build an idea on paper with a few lines and some things. Yeah. There's something magical that happens

when you actually write things down and make them real so taking notes way underrated in fact if i had to say one of the biggest changes that i've had for me getting things done not just in my business but massonomics too is like we have kind of a shared notes area where basically we have an idea it goes in there and there's times where i've i think we both would say we forgot we even put these notes in and we revisit it like six months later we're like what was that damn like that is an idea we need to like why don't we think about that idea more at that time yeah we just wrote that in there and kind of like passed on it and now looking at it's like damn that is opportunity there and that has made us a lot of money a lot of times and before doing that we probably we i know this happened we would have

ideas and then we would just be like and then six months later it would get talked about like hey yeah that is a pretty good idea and it would disappear yeah only to be like hey i had this idea i can't remember if we talked about it yeah it's like yeah i think we did and it came back to life for that brief moment, disappeared again. That, what I would say is, for anyone looking to be more productive or get more things done or just... Well, and sometimes ideas are very fleeting, too.

Hit more goals. You need to do this. One of my biggest things is have, at the very least, because it's hard to have paper and pen on you all the time. Right, right. That's pretty rare. On your home screen of your phone you need to have one app whether it's your notes app or to do app or something and the second you have an idea yeah dump it in there it's got to be that second though because that happens all the time that i'm like oh crap i knew

there was i've been online see something and been like oh yeah that's a great idea and like be like oh that's kind of and like you're kind of like looking at it and then all of a sudden you're on the next paragraph the next paragraph and you go what did i just think of and it's gone just like that like and i've i've i've had it with massonomics even where i wake up in the middle of the night my brain thinks of something i know i have to write it down because i will wake up in the morning and be like i had massonomic something happened in my brain last night don't remember and i think we've both done that we've made memes out of that we've had business ideas come from it so again if i can make a recommendation to anyone it's have a notes app or a note taking thing of

some kind at your fingertips for sure and do not ever pass up on whatever idea you have just get it get it down and then you can decide later on if it's a good idea or not because we've talked about that before sometimes you have the idea and you're like ah maybe it's not a good very good idea but you put it down anyways and later on you're like yeah actually that is pretty good yeah you need to give the idea some time or let a second person see it before you really decide if it's a bad idea like in the moment no that that's too quick to pass and judge on these things. Yes. So notes, way underrated.

Underrated. Topic number three, overrated or underrated, garbage disposals. Actually, you know what? I was going to say I've never had a sink that doesn't have a garbage disposal. But actually, I have had college houses that didn't have a garbage disposal, which means you're scraping out the drain a lot. If you're, especially if you're messy,

it's just been so long that I haven't had one that to me, it's just standard issue. Now do you, there's two different things you can do with a garbage disposal. You can just use it because shit gets down there. Like it just does. Cause you have stuff in the sink and stuff like that. I'm cleaning the drain out.

But some people like use it as like a garbage. Yeah. I do not do that. Like, you know, especially people that cook a lot, like they like do stuff in the sink, get this huge pile of food,

shove it all down. I do not do that to me. The, I, at my, I have had one plug on me before so around our part of the country where it gets crazy cold pipes can freeze well for some reason like stuff froze in my pipe like food yeah and i had to have these people come like took them forever to figure out what was

going on before they figure out your drain just froze like it doesn't normally happen um yeah it so for yeah for that reason i don't put stuff down it unless it's just like it comes off like all right there's a few crumbs on your plate or just some small things but i'm never using this garbage fun fact though something that's really really funny all the time something about a hot dog going down a garbage disposal it's funny every time my brother used to work at this bar where they would put hot dogs down the garbage disposal and man that snap yeah i get the snap of it and there's something about this and just the wiener goes down man it i don't know it's it's really funny so i have to try that wieners down the

garbage disposal hilarious um anything else done the garbage disposal yeah i don't know but i do believe that garbage disposals are underrated i would not want to have a sink without a garbage disposal again right that's one of those things you might not think about too much until it's gone you don't know what you got till it's gone is what they say last topic for the day overrated or underrated tabasco sauce tanner how many ingredients are in tabasco sauce i don't know uh vinegar my brother and i and my wife would say the same thing have had this conversation a thousand times because we always forget i i think it's three ingredients i'm going to say vinegar and peppers vinegar or vinegar it's three ingredients. I'm going to say vinegar and peppers. It's vinegar, water, and I think red pepper. Or is it jalapeno?

It's vinegar, water, and a pepper of some kind. I think it's three ingredients, which is crazy that you can make something with three ingredients. And market it as this thing. And market it and sell it. Yeah. I know very few people that are like oh it's it shocks me like the now

you still go into restaurants and there's tabasco you know in the little the little restaurant whatever that thing is they keep on the tables i don't really off the top of my head know people like oh i need tabasco for this like it's an odd request yeah so with that i want to say it's underrated um but the fact that it's on tables makes me feel like it is rated. I don't hear people requesting Tabasco like ever. So I want to say Tabasco is underrated. I know some people that use it like on everything. You do, really?

I know like no one that does that. I don't. I don't use it on anything. I like Chuloo. Oh, yeah. I'm going to pick like a hot sauce before that. And even that, I mean, that's essentially what Tabasco is, a hot sauce. But I just like something that has less of a Tabasco flavor, more of a hot sauce flavor.

The one that shocks me, like right now I've been on, is it Tapatio? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That freaking bottle of that stuff is like $1.20. Yeah. Like who is making money on that thing at all? Is it Tapatio? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That freaking bottle of that stuff is like $1.20. Yeah. Who is making money on that thing at all? Because Cholua is smaller and three times the price.

I don't know if it's three times the flavor. It's good. Don't get me wrong. It's free at Qdoba, though. It's free at Qdoba. But if I'm buying a burrito to go to, do they expect me to not have hot sauce with it? It is asking a lot. Is that what with it. It is asking a lot. It is asking a lot.

Yeah. That's not how it works around here. I'm still going to say Tabasco is underrated. Underrated. Okay. That wraps up our topics of overrated and underrated for the week. Overrated or underrated. And Tommy,

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