Massenomics Podcast - Ep.210: Eddie Hall Calls Out Thor

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

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Yeah. That's our sponsors for Episode 210. As we get rolling, maybe I should do this before I get. We did have a review. We've had several reviews come in. As I always say, it doesn't necessarily. But there's always that mystery of the missing review or the numbers go in this case right so there's probably like five or six i haven't been able to

read but there was one that popped up and i want to do uh make sure to read this before i forget um the title is we like a good review oh i love a good review it's not much better than that Oh, I love a good review. There's not much better than that. Okay, title is Old News I Like. It's five out of five stars, and this is from Flip underscore TX. He says, it's not much, but it's an honest podcast. Teaching me weekly how to buy lift shorts, wear lift shorts, and use lift shorts.

And if I have my druthers, it's definitely underrated. That's a great review. And like everyone that reviews our podcast, they're just really good at slipping in the backhanded compliments, you know? That is kind of a running theme in our podcast reviews is maybe like taking a couple jabs at us at the same time. Yeah. Keeps us honest, right? Yep keeps us honest right yep that's right that's right but we we would love to get more of those so we have the numbers at like 155 now a

five five star reviews on apple podcasts we're slowly creeping up closer to that 200 and say we just get 45 more and boom bam then we're at 200 and then we get our, we get to have our big, uh, 200 podcast review party. Yeah. Which is like, we've talked about forever going to be a huge party. So we've been mentioning that all, all, some of the huge things we have planned for that day. Once we hit that 200th five, we've been talking about it for 209 episodes now that we just want 200 reviews. Like everyone knows how much this means to us. Right. And man, are things going to change too once we get there?

You know, I mean, it's, it's been good so far, but are things really going to change once we're at that level? There's not many things that you can say you've made it, but most people understand that 200 podcast reviews is that mark. Yeah. The gold standard. Yep. It's kind of like that platinum YouTube button, you know? Yes. It's kind of like that platinum youtube button you know

yes it's kind of like that only a lot better a lot better and less real even although that may be a little bit um silly and kind of unreal this is really really unreal completely unreal totally virtual nothing nothing to show for it we don't actually get anything but it does mean a lot yeah that's not to undersell how much it means yeah yep very important so what's going on in the world tanner what do we got this week there's a lot we're going to touch on what are some of the things we're going to touch on um controversies uh people calling other people out in the lifting world there's not much else to do so people have to like start these little uh little feuds because everyone's i think everyone's

a little bored so they're starting starting some feuds out there what what what other type of things do we have on our list some dates of uh big events when they're coming out so yeah in in news that's shocking to no one dates are getting pushed out on things um yep something we've kind of covered before but you're going to want to hear the new take we have on these updated dates right those are so there's updated dates on events where we all know and are familiar with from the past. And there's also some brand new events that are getting created almost like because of this coronavirus nightmare that we're all living in. There may be changing some formats

and that sort of thing. But that reminds me, have you seen what the UFC is doing now? I have not. You have me very interested. Yeah, you're familiar with Dana White, of course. Mr. Dana White. Yeah, is his title white uh yeah is his title

right now is his title president is that what his official title is yeah what did what what or did he did he sell um actually because did i call him owner did he did he not sell him maybe he sold a big chunk of the ufc i don't even know the big reason i don't know is he is the president yeah he is the president okay okay but does he own it anymore did he not i don't think he has any ownership in it i believe okay okay yeah because i think he cashed in huge on that uh i'm sure and i'm sure his salary is just disgusting whatever he gets paid as the president of the fc from whoever owns it now but um the reason i don't know the specifics of that is because i don't know i don't follow uf that closely. Do you follow UFC very closely?

No, not really. I do. Quick fun fact for you, though. I did for, I think ESPN had a 30 for 30 on about, I don't even know what it was. It was about the UFC in the early days, specifically like Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz. Have you seen that one? No, I don't think so. I don't think so.

It's actually, it was pretty good. i don't follow ufc closely at all anymore i used to kind of sort of have an idea what was going on a few there was a time there where in order you know like even 10 years ago where you kind of had to follow it a little bit to even just be relevant whatsoever and like to be able to exist in most conversations because like it was just like yeah like and i think those days for me were like the the early 2010s like with your anderson silva and like rampage jackson and all you know what brock lesnar all those guys it was then that's what i was gonna say at least you know brock lesnar being a local guy for us here that was huge when he was uh uh who was the guy that he fought he beat and then he came back and beat him um god yeah um was it randy couture didn't didn't he lose to randy couture

i don't know but when you say randy couture all i can think about is huck finn tom finn from when he tells the story randy Couture ripping off his ponytail. I guess not this year at the Arnold because we weren't there, but the year before that, we kept repeating that story to ourselves. Randy Couture. Yeah, he did tell us the story like 10 times.

Yeah, but then we kept reliving it. Was it Cain Velasquez? Maybe that's right. Maybe that's right. That's not ringing the exact bell to me, but this all goes to prove the fact of how little I actually know about the UFC. But I'm not so stupid that I'm not aware that it is huge, especially a lot of people.

I bet there's a lot of people that listen to our podcast that are pretty huge UFC fans even, wouldn't you think uh the fun fact i did have for you though tanner i have the computer up in front like now when we record remotely i have a computer directly in front of me so i got like into add mode super fast i had to look up the exact number so um as far as return on investment goes this is pretty insane the ufc uh it was launched in 93 and it was purchased for purchased in 2001 um by these casino operators for two million dollars so in 2001 it was bought for two million dollars in what year is this here maybe i have seen this 30 for 30 even. In 2016, it was sold for $4 billion. So in the course of 15 years, its value went from $2 million to $4 billion.

That's pretty insane. It says that is a 72% annual return every year. That's better than your consistent track record mutual funds over that same period of time. It is better. It's better than the 8% record mutual funds over that same period of time. It is better. It's better than the 8% you could hope to gain off of. I mean, it's beating inflation, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty nuts.

That is. If only we could get on the ground floor or something like that. Maybe we're in the ground floor right now with Masonomics. Yeah, we just don't know it yet. Yeah, right. 15 years, we'll know't know it yet yeah right we know 15 years we'll know 15 years yeah so what ufc is doing i don't know if you if any of that popped up to you while you were doing your research or not but dana white has said that they are getting a island they're

going to bring these people in from what i understand maybe they're going to quarantine quarantine them all for a couple weeks weeks before they bring them on. Obviously test them for COVID-19 before they get them all on there. And then he said they're building the infrastructure. So I imagine that like building some sort of arena that they're going to fight in. I don't know places for them to live. I'm not sure where this island is or what the details are, but it seems pretty wild. Wow.

Yeah. Like that just sounds like that sounds like something if you would have told someone three years or not even three months ago that there will be a disease that's going to take over the world and dana white's way to get around it he's going to build his own fighter island people be like right now that doesn't make sense that's a really bad plot to a movie it is like a bad a plot to a bad action movie i want to know where this where this secret island is at yeah uh i'm trying to get it's probably been named but i just don't know this i just says undisclosed island according to this report okay wow he says he's close to getting a deal done that is really a

i don't know what the word is but outside the box yeah really outside the box creative plan for i mean also like you have to have a ton of money at your disposal obviously for whatever it takes here i mean you're talking millions and millions of dollars for this but for how much money the ufc brings in and especially imagine he knows they know that there's no other sports that are going to exist people they have the monopoly on sports i'd probably want to watch it just because it's like well it's something you know yeah he's probably looking at like we could make so much money because we are the only form of live entertainment for people well this is going on right yeah in that case he's probably going to get a pretty solid return on his investment. You would think so. I imagine there's going to be people, there's going to be critics that,

because I feel like no matter what anyone's doing right now, there's always people that are complaining about what those people are doing. So I imagine like they're not idiots. I'm sure they know that the bad PR that would come of it if say someone on there had the virus and they all spread it around with each other. So I'm sure based on that reason alone, that they're going to do everything within their means to avoid that from happening. Yep. But I'm guessing there'll still be people that won't like it. Yeah. Cause to me, the, the bigger issue is it's like, well, if these guys, and I don't know the logistics of the whole thing,

so we're totally speculating, but do you know, is it like he's just flying guys in just to have them fight, or are they training and living on this island too? See, I think they're there. Okay, well, then in that case, you. I think they're there. Okay. Well then in that case, you can create your own clean Island. Right. That's kind of what I don't know, but that's just what I took from the little bit. I read that you could make the argument that like, well, if you're just doing this just to have an Island, well, then you're still making these

people like have sparring partners and who knows what they're doing. And yeah, then you're just encouraging this risk then because these people have to get together to have a proper training camp. But if they are training and doing the whole thing and living on this island, then you kind of are sidestepping all the rules. Right. And that's the way I understood it.

And that's the way that I think it really makes sense is if they're doing it, going about it that way. And I bet there would be fighters lined up around the block even the best ones to get in on it because that's their life you know and like even if they have to go live there for months they're probably like oh sounds good like what are my alternatives right now you know uh wow i'm i'm just really uh kind of shocked by this this is some really uh something out of left field i was not expecting anything like that yeah and maybe i'm way off on the details but there's that's that's at least the general idea behind it wow so now we just need to find out what private island

the u.s open will be held and the rest of these for the power lifting yeah yeah and the only problem is instead of like you know tens of million dollars at the disposal everyone basically has no money yeah it's like can we set this all up for about ten thousand dollars yeah and also like someone needs to comp these travel fees. Like, you know, just that part's not going to work out either. Well, and I wonder for even, you know, in that scenario, people would have to fly commercial and stuff to get there. But I wonder if on this UFC deal, if they'll fly these people all, you know, private. You would assume.

I can't imagine if you're buying an island, if that's what he's really doing, that there's commercial flights set up to the island yeah oh yeah of course right yeah yeah maybe he's building an airport maybe he's building his own country yeah you know they figure okay we can buy an island for two million if we can do the same thing the island will be with four billion in 15 years right it's guaranteed math at this point yeah they're just uh keep repeating the process on them like soon we'll just we'll just have all the money figured out they know a secret wow well that is impressive right and i'm very curious to see how that will turn out yes um speaking of things that are moving in schedules uh The one that I just saw last night is the World's Strongest Man

schedule. And we had said for a few weeks now that we didn't know when it was going to be, like we hadn't really seen anything for it. They actually put out a press release saying that they have now moved the date for World's Strongest Man to be November 11th through the 15th of this year, 2020. And it will take place in Bradenton, Florida again, which is that's where it was last year, correct? Yep. Yep. So, you know, typically it's it's said initially they were planned to have it May 20th through the 24th. We still hadn't even heard that, but I guess that was the day they had picked out their press conference or their, their news release just basically says,

you know, due to the concerns with COVID-19 and restrictions and advice from local state and federal authorities, they've decided to move it out, you know, for the concern of competitors, fans, partners, volunteers, and staff. Outside outside of that basically no information and it will be interesting now like you would assume with this now being our with a november world's strongest man does that mean that world's strongest man is now an event that will happen in the fall of every year right because i have a hard time believing if they're going to do it november they're going to ramp it up again in may right yeah right right right and it could be one of those things where well maybe the next year they'd have to cut the difference yeah yeah well maybe the next year

instead of november okay now it's in august and then the next year we push it back a few months but but then you run into so if you're in that j July, August timeframe, even June, your venues that they typically have these World's Strongest Man, like Florida in July. Yeah, it's a terrible. For these 400 pound behemoths is like not conducive for them to do those things. Conducive to life. Right, right. Yeah. But yeah, that and that.

And then I don't know if that's good or bad like if it becomes more of a fall thing you know the nice thing i i would think is it's a ways away from the arnold then at that point you know a significant or maybe they like to have them closer because it's like you're slowly peaking for world's strongest man and you peek through the through the arnold or maybe it's just better to have them spread out at opposites and ends of the year and you you just peak two different times i don't know what the you know from a competitor standpoint which of those they would like better actually right well and the other thing is the arnold you know having their events all spread throughout the year didn't last year wasn't the Barcelona one that was more towards the end of the year wasn't it well yeah the way the Arnold is like those basically

go all year round right yeah I guess they are spread out pretty evenly I mean well when would they start again well they won't be starting whenever they should be normally starting right because because they probably usually start um fairly if if world's strongest man is in may like i would assume the the arnold start again not too far after that right like to get all these in if they do like 10 of them they've got a yeah you it would have to be wouldn't it right but those will be you know actually that brings up a point for the Arnold 2021 back in Columbus again, assuming that happens like normal. All these qualifiers probably won't be able to exist or they'll have to cram them all really tight to each other because they're normally kind of spread out over, say, six months. And that window is going to close with people not being able to do these competitions until we don't even know when at this point yeah and i'm looking at

their schedule online right now for for the arnold and listed they have australia africa and south america all listed as postponed right now okay but they do have europe still on for september 18th through the 20th so that's their first one that they're listing right now okay but they do have europe still on for september 18th through the 20th so that's their first one that they're listing right now yep and that one's in but okay that was oh yeah this one is in oh no it is in barcelona now it said it used to be in in madrid but now they hold it in barcelona so and that's september you said yep okay so let's play a this is we're getting in too too far into it i want to play a quick game related to everything that we're talking about right here. So I'm going to name an event and at least the month that it's scheduled,

and I'll try and do these chronologically of some sort. And you tell me, do we think it's going to happen? All right. Okay, so the first one I have written down is Amateur Strongman Nationals, USS Strongman Nationals. And the reason I wrote this one down, Brad, Big Brad Neitzel, who is a Massanomics-sponsored athlete, he would be competing in there. Jake Heinrich would be competing in there.

He's been a member of Massanomics Gym. And some other people that we know locally would be competing in that. And it's in Minneapolis this year. Oh, really oh really get slated to be in minneapolis oh i didn't know that that is for they and as far as i know as at least as a time the time of us recording this they have not called that off yet and it is scheduled for june what are the percent chances that that happens in june do you have a date in june i don't know let's say it's june 20th because that maybe rings a bell but i can't i was gonna say if it's beginning of june i think i'm gonna say no it's not happening um almost for certain yeah end of

june to me that really starts to be the borderline um like in a hopeful situation probably yeah yeah in a positive situation of course we don't know but um I okay as of recording this we're first week of April so that's first week of May first week of June it's about two and a half ish months out yeah I mean I would I would love to say yes it's gonna be on that would make me so happy because that means the world returning to normal. Then I just am still afraid. I don't think it'll be on. I don't think it is. I think it's too soon.

That would be my same guess based on because this is what the world might be good, but it's very expensive to plan and have an event and all this stuff. And then just be a week before like the arnold oh sorry actually turns out we can't do it so that the decision has to be made they don't get to make the decision the day before they have to make the decision probably months before in order to be able to react you know they just like you said they can't do it that quick yeah and if they have to make the decision in may in may it's probably not going to look like roses no matter what even if it's headed the right direction yeah yeah because now we know

what we're in you know especially with the arnold it's like well we don't really know what's coming or at least that's right most people said and yeah i to me it just seems like they could just save themselves a lot of headache by just saying all right we're moving this out like two months right now yeah right right so we think probably not i think that will be postponed so then there's the showdown meet which is formerly the tribute meet i think the showdown meet is scheduled to be something like in new york or buffalo something like that i can't remember yes yes i forget about that one yeah that's scheduled for september and it's the sleeves meet you know it's the big knee sleeve untested meet.

A ton of people have signed up for it. And that's September. Do you think that will happen in September as scheduled now? The last I saw that they are saying it still is scheduled for September. And I'm pretty sure that's accurate. I think that could. I think that has a much better likelihood of happening yeah and then to go along the only thing you got to wonder with that is how many competitors will have subpar

performances because training situations have been essentially non-existent for a lot of people and for some people they're going to be just shitty because not ideal for sure. They don't have their training partners, their preferred training facilities. Uh, it's just going to be, you would have to assume for a lot of people, a subpar prep. And even if things are better, are there even still some competitors that say, yeah, I'm not, I don't feel good about it. You know, like not even just their training, not being good, but just like for safety, you know, personal safety or whatever it is. They just think like, uh, I don't know, maybe not yet for me. Like, you know, I better just wait. Cause I can see some people having that, you know, outlook on it too, for a while.

Oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And that's why you put, you kind of wonder like, will this be a really down year for world records being set? And it just seems like it should be. Why, why wouldn't it be? There will be less competitions overall, because at the very least we're going to miss like four months of competing by the time,

you know, between from the right after the Arnold until who knows when the summer or fall. Yep. And I don't think there's many people that are going to come out of this saying, all right, I am at my peak.

I am ready for a meet to set some records uh and also to go around with that september one would be the one you just mentioned that arnold in september which country was that uh in spain and the the difference with those arnold is arnold events is they are completely those are a global events. The competitors come from everywhere. Can people even, can all those people even get there? And that, that also does make you like, that does make you think too, you know, we're talking to America and I'm thinking, all right, if we can get stuff together here and as a country be like, all right, we're on the, we're on the right track, we're safe to have stuff. But yeah, that's not taking the global

picture into it. And who knows? Maybe they'll say, well, this country is still not doing good. We're not allowing competitors from this country. Right. The wild card event, which I just thought of, not quite is evolved around, centered around lifting, but more near and dear to us would be the Sturgis Biker All alley of Sturgis, South Dakota coming in August. You know, they've had, there's, I don't know if you've seen this, but there's been several, as should be no surprise, but there's been several reports in the paper about how

the Western part of our state is super dependent on tourism, that Mount Rushmore area specifically, and talking about how, how like sales are down like 70 percent year over year to the point where these places are like yeah we're not going to make it yeah uh and then yeah if the if the bike rally didn't happen you just got to assume tons of places over there just yep that's it we're done oh my god there it would fold so many i mean i've gone to the surgis bike rally and this is for people for people that don't understand the size of that, there are actual businesses that are open for one month of the year. Like,

and I'm assuming that many, many multimillion dollar businesses and they operate, they operate, they have these full enormous bar restaurant buildings and they are open, open for one month of the year. They are, there's not even like, Oh yeah,

we have a seat. No, it's one month of the year. That's it. The lights oh yeah we have a seat no it's one month of the year that's it the lights are off the doors are locked you can't do anything there even if you wanted to right yeah and well i mean it the the numbers are like there's like 500 000 people give or take that come every year to this town of i don't know how big sturgis is a few thousand yeah like 8 000 maybe yeah right and it gets flooded with about half a million people every year. And these are all people that go there for a week and do nothing but spend money.

You're literally just there spending money for a week. Well, they might drink and drive motorcycles too. Yes, there is a lot of that, but that's all a part of it. But so what do you think on that? Have you heard? I think that one's just i kind of get the feeling like that's when no one wants to discuss because it would just be the death blow for so many things it would be like it would just be i can't even fathom like how you know the

revenue that's lost you know we we talked about the numbers of how much was lost you know in columbus about the arnold but columbus is actually a, is at least a relatively big. A city with a diverse income stream. Right. This is it for like that. Yeah. Pocket of the. All the eggs really are in one basket here. Yeah.

But it's also a cesspool. I mean, it's like. Yes, absolutely. It's you're completely crowded in there with all those people. Yeah. Yeah. God, that one's it's so hard to say because that's one where if things are starting to look better people are just going to be like we have to get out and do something right or if things aren't getting

better that's just going to be one of those two where people like i don't know i've come this far why why wait why waste it now or why risk it now when we could probably wait a couple weeks and be done? I think it'll still happen. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a fraction. A fraction. Cut in a half or cut in a third or something. But I would love to see it be the biggest one because I think it's the 80th this year.

I would love for it to be super successful and awesome because the world has moved on at that point. Yeah, and every 10-year anniversary one or the 80th this year. I would love for it to be super successful and awesome because the world has moved on at that point. Yeah, and every 10-year anniversary one or like the 75th, they're always big. It's way more people that come in whenever it's an anniversary year like that. Yeah. Okay, so then I guess the last one, you can clump them together. We're tailing past September and stuff.

The U.Ss open or the kern is out into november so we get to like november and later what do you think the like the chances of that get pretty good i think right i think so god i hope so yeah the world's gonna be really depressing if it still can't be held in november right oh yeah i i really hope those are uh those are happening and that that's an already postponed date. You know, the current was normally maybe like going to be in May or not that far away from where we're at now. Yeah, within the next month, typically. Yeah. So that's out to November and hopefully that happens.

Yeah. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see in a few months how this last 10 minutes of sound holds up. I hope things, if we're wrong, it's because things just got radically better, not because things have taken a turn for the worse. Right. So we're just going to stay positive on that one. Yes. And now we're going to read some ads. All right.

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it's a hell of a nice looking bar. I had to lay all the deadlift bars next to each other because now that we have an Okie, a Rogue, and a Texas just for the sake of looking at them, it is the longest. Is it? Yep, it is the longest. The Rogue Ohio deadlift bars in between the Okie is the shortest. And do the collars all start at the same spot or is that even longer

that is also there is also differences of that is there yeah so the texas deadlift bar has the most space but between the collars or between where the weights would start even you could say you know like yeah between the collars the texas deadlift bar has the most space so therefore so they do got to have a different feel then yeah I and I think it is it's I've never used it I I have used the Texas deadlift bar but we've never had one so I've never used it consistently but people do say it has more whip and that would stand to reason why I mean that's what they are all the same diameter and I imagine similar tensile strength but that extra length would, would mean more whip.

Wow. So we have the trifecta of Texas power bars now, or Texas bars now. Yes. We've, we've got the, we've got a couple power bars. We've got a squat bar and now we have the Texas deadlift bar.

We have the full gamut. That's pretty cool. Although they do make an all American bar. I saw that, you know, has the Olympic rings on it. We don't have one of those. And is it a bodybuilding bar too? Is that that's their newest one that's their partner with branch warren we don't have one of those don't know that we have an extreme use for those

but the all-american bar i think uh i would still like to get one of those someday too yeah and they all come with high recommendations from us you can never have enough bars that is just a fact you cannot also you can't have enough te. That is just a fact. You cannot. Also, you can't have enough Texas power bars. I mean, exactly. Hundreds, dozens of state, national, massonomics, and world records have been set on them and continue to be broken. I've heard that before. We wouldn't say that if it wasn't true. We've never lied about anything else. I don't know. We're not going to start about that. No, we're not. All right, that no we're not all right tanner

looking at our extensive list of things um and maybe maybe the one i'm most interested in and you have the inside scoop on this is eddie hall claims that thor's 501 kilogram deadlift won't count why is that that is right the eddie has a video out on his youtube channel i think it was a q a session i didn't watch the full video full disclosure someone sent me the clip someone posted a clip of just this part of the video on on their instagram and it got shared around a little bit i think so is it possible this is completely out of context or are we really yeah it's you could tell i tell with what he was saying. He was mix no word.

He was very specific about what he was saying. That he was very accusational, very confrontational. He was raising a little bit of a stink about it because he's saying you you know that this event that thor's doing it's you know i don't know if you consider it sanctioned or or how that what you what you want to say about that but you know they've been up front that they're going to use kilo plates calibrated plates they're going to use a regular bar it's going to be live streamed like this is an event just for him for to hopefully be able to deadlift 501 kilograms eddie is saying that iceland strongmen have a history of exaggerating things uh maybe even like lying about things i'm not sure what exactly

his words were but and that um he could set up his own competition in his own gym too and say whatever numbers and magic magic weights he wants to say that it is but it's not a world record because it's just still him lifting in his own gym, like in his perfect setup. Um, so he's saying for those reasons, it will not count as a world record. And also that accusing them that they very well could lie about the weight,

that it's really not going to be 501 kilograms. I, I guess what he's complaining about now is the fact that there's no unified body in this stuff right isn't that what it's coming down to yeah i guess i i mean i suppose if it if it was at world's strongest man he would say that that's okay or for it's that giant's live it's okay and outside of that, apparently it wouldn't be fine. And the fact that it's in Iceland, like that they're setting it up. But wasn't Giants live? I mean, those are like, don't they hold those in England?

Isn't that a place where they do them? Yeah, kind of, yes. I guess there's a difference between being held in a country versus in your town. Right, yeah. And do we know, is it actually being held in thor's gym are they doing it somewhere else i don't know that for sure okay i think he alluded to the fact that it was maybe in his own gym even but i don't know if that's right yeah i don't that's kind of a little tacky to me yeah it does and also like that's kind of the

nature of strongman and strength sports in general is that there's a million federations and a thousand set of rules. And it's almost getting to the point now where it seems like people can even do what most people would say is a one-to-one comparison, but there's always some other variable. It's getting to the point where like, oh, it didn't happen at my point in history. So it wasn't in my historical viewpoint it's wrong right and i don't think there's an answer for that other than kind of like i'm eddie hall fan it kind of just sounds like you're being the old grumpy guy now right yeah yes and then so i also saw a screenshot of something thor put out in his story like a rebuttal to this so there is back and forth this isn't just one-sided they are like calling each other out back and forth and thor pointed out that eddie blocked him on instagram oh really and that uh what else did he say oh and then he said if we're gonna if we're gonna bring up things that aren't fair play let's go back to 2017 world's strongest man the year

eddie won because wasn't there some iffy calls there right and he said how colin bryce you know the guy that you know colin bryce he's the yeah how him and eddie are thick as thieves and how they were catering everything over that world's strongest man event for eddie to be able to win and then also saying that's why eddie retired after that because he knew once that was over he was never going to be able to win and then also saying that's why Eddie retired after that because he knew once that was over he was never going to be able to beat him again right and like that's pretty much exactly what he said yeah and I think that's fair if if Eddie Hall wants to complain about that deadlift stuff Thor is totally right to to yeah those to make those same complaints like all right if we're going to complain about things not being the right conditions right then i can make those same arguments yeah wow and it is just funny to

see those two going at it to some degree because as far as strongman is or strength sports is considered they might be that like the two of the most famous people like strongman for sure all time yeah and yeah two of the strongest ever like and also the most famous in that sport and if not like all of strength sports you know yeah yeah it'll be interesting to see and you know if he doesn't break the record i guess it doesn't even matter but if he does then um i guess eddie hall is putting an asterisk on it you know yeah and i think that that's a little lame. I do too.

I don't like that, really. That's poor sportsmanship to a certain degree, I think. Yeah. It is. And at this point, well, I mean, if Thor wanted to really just make him quiet, I guess he could just break it by 10 kilos or something and be like, ah, I didn't even chip it.

But Eddie, if he's already prepping for that by saying he doesn't believe what they're saying is true, then it's like, well... What is 10 kilos or 20 kilos? What does any of those even make a difference? If you think that the conditions aren't fair and to your liking, then you're never going to agree with it.

Right. Yeah. That'll be interesting. Yeah. And so that event has been held by World's Ultimate Strongman, correct? Yeah. The promotion that puts on that dubai strongman event and they have a few more because of this

coronavirus thing they have a few more like kind of special events like this plan now don't they yeah they they this was the first one they announced thor's dead 501 deadlift and then now they all also announced they're going to add on uh i think later in may they'll be a one of the stoltman brothers is going for the log lift world record so to beat big z's record and then like the next weekend these are both taking place in uk england or whatever um the other stoltman brother would be going to re-break his atlas stone record which he said at the arnold of 600 pounds so and as a fan of people lifting heavy stuff this is cool it's like all right let's get some people breaking world records here and if if this is what it this is kind of along the lines of the

dana white thing right where you're doing these like small one-off individual events without an audience you know and they're all they're all gonna have free live streams i think too is what what they've said so they should be able to be watched yeah and those are two records that i want to see i want to see if the all-time log record can be broken and the stone one too like how far can right stoltman push that stone right exactly so i don't know. I don't know if they've said what he's going to try. I'm sure on the log, they're going to chip it

because no one's capable of breaking that by very much, I don't think. But on the stone, based on the way that Tom Stoltman... Can he do 650? I don't know. And is there rules that after a certain point, does the stone not get any

bigger in diameter now like is it right they that yeah they they do that by filling the core on those big ones because otherwise uh those stones would be unmanageable if they weren't doing that in order to get a 600 stone it'd be like a 30 inch atlas stone with you know it just wouldn't I so I don't know what the diameter is if it it's like 22, 23-inch stones, something like that, that they're filling. But I also don't think there's a specific rule of that. If he's more comfortable with, say, a 22 or a 21 or a 23 or whatever, I'm sure that they're just going to make it to that.

And I don't think there's a specific diameter. I guess my whole point, though, is he's not breaking the record. Assuming he breaks it and crushes it, he's not breaking it because he has an 18 inch stone all of a sudden like a significantly smaller one no no no no and even i i don't think it's advantageous at a certain point for it to get too small anyways with them the way that like someone with like his enormous wingspan and stuff like he's probably built for doing a pretty big stone anyways so okay so it was it was 600 that he did at the arnold though yeah big stone anyways so okay so it was it was 600 that he did at the arnold though yeah i think it was i think it was exactly 600 is is 650 possible it

sure seems like it that's kind of what i thought too because and i don't think he's going to go out and do a 601 pound atlas stone like that would be really lame if that's what he did and i wonder if even if they'll make a few atlas stones and like, well, here's the 620, here's the 650. You have to assume that a max Atlas stone, as heavy as it is, is always less taxing than a 500 kilogram deadlift attempt, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, after that deadlift, they're not going to be like, all right, now are you going to try 505? We can put five more kilos on. deal we can put five more kilos on yeah who knows though maybe if thor really you know if like maybe he is gets ends up getting so strong he's really confident about the 501 you know

and i i don't think so though that would be a it does seem crazy yeah yeah to be to not only break 501 but be the first person to do it twice in a day yeah that's yeah that's not realistic i don't think i'm curious i think that that atlas stone one could get pushed quite a ways still. Yeah. And I hope that's what happens. I hope that'd be awesome to see. All right. Cause wasn't the record like five 40 or five 60 or something like that.

Yeah. We watched Shaw break it a couple of years in a row at the Arnold there. And it was like, he was breaking it by like five pounds every year, which was kind of lame. So to see that record, get a hundred pounds added onto it over the course of like a year, that'd be pretty cool to see. Right. Yes, I agree.

And if Z's could ever be broken, that would be cool to see. I'm least confident out of the three, that would be the one I'm least confident that we're going to see get broken, I would say for sure. The log. The log. log i mean it's just like people are in that neighborhood and like a lot of people have talked about breaking it and stuff and it's like there must be something about that threshold that it's just like you know it's just so i'm least confident about that one yeah i could i could go with that i am the most confident in the stone one yeah i think that's just almost a certainty that he'll break it it's just by how much uh-huh yeah oh so that is uh so

it gives us gives strength athletes something to look forward to watching here coming up in may all of those should be in may there's a little bit of light in the tunnel like yeah yeah you have three one-off events sitting there waiting and that that is a creative take on it much. Like you said, like with Dana White, it's, it's, it's a way to have something and maybe to capitalize maybe for this company, it could in some way, uh, be big for them. Yeah, they could, uh, yeah, I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure how, but maybe, I mean, I mean at least name, I mean, it could be the start of something farm though right yeah yeah for sure so wow we actually did talk about some strength stuff again this week

yeah we're finding things keep thinking we're gonna run out but somehow there's always a couple we're digging deep each week to come up with something else that we can talk about related to lifting yep we've got to keep it at phoning this in no well i mean we literally we are phoning we are literally but uh we we we have to keep it the lifting podcast about nothing not just the podcast about nothing yeah we got to give the people what they want right right speaking of what the people want i think you know what I'm thinking. Underrated or overrated. It's always what the people want. Am I right?

That is exactly right. Okay. So we've got four new topics for this week's overrated, underrated segment. Four topics just like every week. And we're going to start with number one just like we do every week. So topic number one of overrated, underrated for episode 210 of the Massanics podcast is duck hunt the game duck hunt like uh for the nes the the flip side of the mario one oh yeah wow um with the orange and gray gun it's been years it's been a long time i'm as a kid i thought it was maybe the greatest thing ever made as a kid

but did you just put the gun right up to the tell like i definitely had times like that yeah you know and there was times where you're trying you're like getting serious about it where you back up about as far as you can to the end of the control which is probably about the end of the controller yeah um i'd actually be really interested in playing duck hunt again just to see how it holds up as a game and also how good it feels like it's how accurate yeah how accurate that gun even is uh wow i i'm i don't know if i've played duck hunt since i've been like maybe in third grade yeah like i'm just trying to think of a friend that had in any like because by that time you're starting to play super Nintendo. Yeah.

I think duck hunts underrated. Yeah. I think duck hunts under, it was, it was a lot of technology of it, but at the time is a little underrated too, that they even made that work on those old TVs. Like you could play duck hunt on like a,

you know, a black and white television, I think. Oh yeah. And that kind of set the stage to me for a lot of those shooting games that were in arcades like area 51 and games like that which were always so cool like going in and shooting aliens that area 51 is a fun game yeah yeah area 51 was probably the most popular one that i feel

like was in every arcade what about cruising usa cruise i loved that game i love cruising the world yeah yeah uh i the one i played the most was well was cruising usa was at the nintendo 64 one i think so yeah yeah yeah uh we played that one a lot growing up that was yeah a lot of fun i gotta stop asking these because these could be future overrated cruising usa itself would have been a good one now that i think about it but yeah no i'm going underrated on duck hunt okay overrated or underrated oh i'm just gonna caveat i have to caveat this week every week i can't remember if we've done them or not before but i don't care i'm someday i'm gonna stop saying that but for

now i'm gonna keep repeating that i don't know if we've done these before or not overrated or underrated tiger woods tiger woods not this last week we did tiger king this week tiger woods yep this is kind of a tricky one um yeah that's why that's why i thought this was a good one he's one of those people that was without a doubt uh his name represented the sport for you know a decade or more maybe and then had that crazy fall from grace uh the disappearance some injuries all of that and then kind of sort of or he had like what his first major win in like 10 years was that last year was something like that and you know he competes now with not not like he used to yeah he won a major he won the masters here was that what it was that

what it was i can't even i think he won the masters in 2019 right uh we'll get the old google box on it right here that's that's what my guess is yeah 2019 yes yes he did 2019 um i this is one of those tricky ones because you're talking about someone that is almost the, the pinnacle of the sport, but at the same time he is on the downward decline. Like, and also he had that black eye of the, uh, whatever. Yeah. Right. Right.

Right. I still think you maybe have to say underrated because he is one of those people that his name practically defined the sport for how many years yeah and how many people got into golf just because of him you know right and i think for yeah i think for that you have to say that he's still underrated right for all that he did he is the original tiger king he is that's right okay overrated or underrated i don't know if you'll know what this is but if you don't oh you'll know you'll it's not hard to explain overrated or underrated the robin hood investing app robin hood so is this the app where they want you to it you can invest a few cents of

like every you can invest part you can you can invest in partial shares in partial shares you don't have to buy full shares you can but uh purchase portions of a share i don't know how low they will let you go i i don't have it so i don't know all the details but i just it's become very popular is why it's a topic on overrated underrated this is so this is getting i did a little research just so i know exactly what it really is but um and i've i've read i think they have ads on tv that yeah i've seen um so the their whole thing here and it says they they don't have broken broker fees so you can do these trades you know at basically no cost right and like i think you know things like that are good it gives people the power to do stuff.

Yeah. That's the, that's one of the big pros. It's very low cost. Yeah. And it removes that middleman and it makes, you couldn't, you know,

argue it makes it more accessible and it makes trading and things like that open to your average guy. And those are the pros and people with a lot less money. Yeah. Yeah. You don't, you don't need five grand to get started right right things like that the only reason i think these things are overrated like right away

is that it also makes people think like all right i think i can make a lot of money here and it yeah you'd like realize like okay this kind of goes back to the whole thing of like well isn't the stock market sort of just gambling for white collar people and and this just seems like yeah that kind of is and that could totally be a slippery slope not and i'm not for one saying like all right we need the government to get in here and say oh people you're not able to handle that on your own we need to handle that for you right but ftc yeah i um i'm gonna give it an underrated thing just because it gives the power to the people in this case. Um, I mean, you're not going to find me on the Robin hood app, uh, investing time and money into it later today or anything like that. What I, what am I going to

say? I'll never look into it. No, I'm not going to say that, but I'll give it, I'll give it an, uh, I'll give it an underrated. Yeah. So the reason it come about, I think that's all fair. I mean, you touched on pretty much what the pros of it are. I think it's a way for people to get started. It's cheap, and it's great for beginners or people looking to get started. And also you hit exactly on the cons of what you said. It's like letting people,

giving people this sense that they're going to be the wolf of wall street, you know, and just like doing silly things with their money potentially. But at the heart of it, investing money is a good idea, but it depends on your strategy and how you go about that and everything. So it is tough whether, you know, that it's, go about that and everything. So it is tough, whether, you know, that it's, it's a tough call. And it's also lots of things are a good idea if you know what you're doing. Right. And then you take something like the stock market where even

the best people typically don't even really know what they're doing. Very true. That's where it gets, I mean, you can look at, you look at, you know, the, and I'm not well versed in this at all. Tanner, you're, you're much more of a numbers and money guy. Like you actually have a job that involves handling money. Right. But like, you know, you look at the numbers for like all of these managed funds and a lot of times these managed funds that cost tons of money don't do any better than just funds that are part of what just regular mutual funds or the, the, you know, the, or even just the, you know, the, yeah, just, just the market itself. Right. Yeah. So they don't most don't a lot, not most, a lot don't outperform the market in specific periods of time. And this is kind of, this is kind of off topic, but this is something

that I didn't know existed and blew my mind. I watched a video on this. Are you familiar with the Harvard endowment? Um, no, no, no, no. Okay. So, so you, I mean, you don't like any school, you know, they have their, they have their, uh, their fund of, of money that, you know, like any, any place you go to school. And then the second you graduate, not only do you owe them $60,000, but they're also asking for donations right away, which is insanity. Yes. Yeah, it is insanity. So the Harvard Endowment Fund is up to, do you have any guesses? $400 million. You're way, way off.

$40.9 billion. Wow. And then they're not unique in that either. Like Yale, it says 30 billion. Stanford is 27 billion. Princeton is 25 billion. And like the people that they talk about in this, this one little video I watched that these people are, you know, they have a whole like business basically that's built into managing this fund and what they're going to invest it in and the return they're getting right and how these people's you know the the essentially the fund

manager his job is measured against how the other how they're doing compared to the other funds and specifically like ivy leaguers so are you saying this is a documentary no i just watched a youtube video oh just a youtube video on it yeah because i i can't remember i saw someone i don't know if i saw it on tv someone mentioned something about it and i was like wait that sounds like i couldn't have heard that right and then i pulled up a youtube video and i was just talking about the logistics of how much money is sitting there and crazy um just like just i mean there's a whole there's just way too much stuff but it it's, it's a crazy thing that almost doesn't make sense that they have that much money sitting there. It is crazy.

So, um, I don't even remember what the original question was. Oh, Robin Hood. I'm still, I'll still go underrated. Yeah. Okay. So last one here, probably a little more straightforward underrated or overrated girl scout cookies. Oh, uh, uh i this one's tricky for me because i don't want to give a i have a hard time giving a blanket statement to this because i do believe some of those cookies are i do believe some of those cookies are very overrated yeah and in in a way and also what's your favorite you know that's so as of like a year ago, I actually, actually my entire life, I would say my favorite was, um, what's it, the, what is it? The peanut butter patties? What, what the hell do you call them? They all have names like, uh, uh, yeah, I don't know what the peanut butter pat,

but yeah, I agree. Those, I like those ones. Um, the one thing that was interesting or like, well, the one thing that I didn't know until recently is that the, uh, I, I called them peanut butter patties. Yeah. That's what I always said too. In Minnesota, they call them tagalongs. Okay. And then I, I did some research one day and it turns out that like, depending on the factory that makes them, it's still technically the same cookie is the way, if I'm remembering this correctly, it's still the same cookie, but one factory calls it a tagalong. One calls it a peanut butter patty very very weird thing but my favorite is now as of last year the Samoa I just love the Samoas you just always gotta have Samoa it's you know it's never enough you gotta have I want Samoa with those cookies I do gotta

have Samoa those ones are really so like those ones i'll say underrated all day i would also say that you can go into a grocery store and there's like multiple brands that make that exact same cookie you can get them any time of the year but that flavor of cookie is dynamite it's good stuff but girl scout cookies in general they're probably i do think girl scout cookies are something that do get a little overhyped like people people like to freak out about them and i get it yeah you're giving to a cause but it they probably are a little overrated yeah i do love the office episode when they when daryl and toby have to battle over who's going to get kevin to buy girl scout cookies cookies from their daughter and he makes them uh do a bunch of favors and perform and like sing it because kevin buys so many girl scout cookies just an aside there's always an office episode for

something that's right simpsons did it so you said what did you say on girl scout cookies then what's the i said i think they're a little overrated okay all right that wraps up overrated underrated it's also bringing us into a close on episode 210, believe it or not. It seems like we just started this journey today, and now we're coming to the end of it. Sad but true. It is sad but true. A lot of ups and downs, drama, stories.

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