Massenomics Podcast - Ep.212: Ask Massenomics

Episode Date: April 27, 2020

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! Science and everything. Massanomics. Welcome back, Massanomics listeners, to episode 212 of the Massanomics podcast. We are the lifting podcast about nothing.

My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. And 212, we've actually got a Q&A session. We did a live Instagram ask us anything on our story, and we're going to go through those today. So pretty exciting stuff. We got some good questions. Real hard-hitting questions. You guys do not joke around with questions. No, they took it just as serious as we expected that they would, I would say.

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the most important metric in the industry right when i say industry i mean instagram clothing companies instagram lifting slash beer clothing companies um so now do you i don't know if you remember the number we were at before it was in the 150s i don't even remember because it is so important i have a hard time actually remembering it yeah and do you don't have a sound effect on the board for like uh like like do do do do do do do do like really important news really important news coming i don't i don't the closest we could maybe get actually Actually, not even closest. That kind of works, I think.

That'll work. We are now up to 160 Apple Podcast five-star reviews. That's good. So maybe every week, regardless of if it changes, we can update on everyone because everyone knows. Yeah, I like that. The live feed. I do think we need to keep people updated on where we're at with that yeah so maybe is there would it be possible to get a good sound effect for that where we were every week where we update them on the road to 200 apple podcast uh absolutely as as we speak i am doing um podcast update sound effect.

Boom. It's in my to-do list. Okay. Because, I mean, we could talk till we're blue in the face about how important this 200 reviews is, how much it means. Yeah. But you need the sound effect to really drive home the point of how important it is. Right. I mean, we could just be talking about it, and that only does so much.

But when we have a special sound effect for it each week, people know then it's like, oh, this is important. And if they didn't think it was important, they will be conditioned to know it's important once that sound hits the ears. Yeah. So I'm excited for that. Yeah. That update every week.

It'll be here. And I mean, it could be here in as soon as 52 short weeks. Yeah. Right. Hopefully less. it'll be here and i mean it could be here in as soon as 52 short weeks yeah right hopefully less like 40 yeah yeah okay so we do have a lot of do we have like 20 some questions maybe that we're gonna go through something like that yeah something about like that okay um you know like we said they are all very hard hitting no no softballs here so it's going to require some heavy thinking tanner so i hope you're i hope you're heavily caffeinated and ready to answer these i did have a coffee today okay good what time do you have your coffee at i had it before i actually just finished a garage gym lifting session shortly before the pre-workout

coffee huh yeah yeah i had pre-workout coffee this afternoon i think that's one of the one of the better ways to have coffee yeah that's what i like to do i if i'm gonna if i'm gonna lift that day i won't have coffee in the morning and i'll just save it to have it uh before i lift yeah i try to limit my caffeine to one per day maximum i think that's also a good habit to be in yeah i'm usually some days i don't have any yeah i'm usually in the i would say maybe three cups a week maybe yeah yep so about every other day yep that's probably close to me i'm not judging people that uh live off of it because i just know that that's the way it works. But it's just what I try to do. And then I feel like maybe it does more for me when I do use it.

I personally think it does. I feel like when I have a cup of coffee and I don't sip on it all day, like if I actually drink it, like my brain's doing something it's not normally doing. Yeah, right. I think that works. One really quick story that i i have to tell about when i was lifting there is this actually happened this is like something that we joke about happening are you talking about like just earlier here like just earlier today yeah just earlier today just as i was i was benching in my garage and had a neighbor come over um next door neighbor walk over while i was lifting go

you know like oh you're lifting huh and you know certainly a guy that doesn't lift i'm sure you know i it's apparent that he doesn't i've never seen him go to the gym or never seen him lift or anything and i'm like yep lifting and he goes oh wow how much do you press and i was like oh or he's like how much do you put up and i just assume he's talking about bench press so i say oh you mean like how much bench press or and he's like yeah how much do you bench i was like well the most i've ever done is 475 i probably can't do that today but that's the best i've done and you know what his response was and i'll try and say it verbatim. It's either he knows a guy that could do 500 or he could do a lot in high school. He said, without missing a step, almost no breath in conversation, he goes, oh, yeah, that's about what I used to be able to do when I was into lifting.

I was like, really? You could almost bench 500 pounds when you used to be a freak of nature because you clearly didn't even know what you were doing like like i'm like i could have i could have just as well said 900 pounds like i like at that point i'm like what number would it have taken for it to be like oh i am impressed yeah because like in in our world uh you know a bench in the in between four and five hundred isn't uh insane you know like but it's also not something that you ever accidentally get to right exactly like there's very few people that just like kind of worked out and you know benched that much like it's something it takes it was something you

you either miraculous you either weigh like 300 plus pounds and you've been super athletic your entire life or you've worked for many many years to get there right like there's no accidental on that no no but i just i like it was hard for me not to laugh because i was like huh it's funny like i still get myself in situations where this comes up you know like it's literally like the exact joke you talk about, and it still is happening. It will never go away. No, no. Good stuff.

So should we start into these questions? We've got to get through them all. All right. First up on the list from MrPlumber34, what is the best deadlift and why is it the Jefferson deadlift? Well, I like the way he words the question for sure. It was a very well-worded question. I will give him that.

So it's a two-part question where he's answering the first part in the second part. So I guess it's obvious the answer is the jefferson deadlift i think the answer is the jefferson i don't i can't argue with that and um yeah why is it the jefferson deadlift now that is a that's a real question there i i would answer that not by specifically saying anything about the jefferson deadlift but more so by speaking to all other forms of deadlift and saying how they are cheating and if other things are cheating and this is not uh like by default it's the best form then at that point right that's exactly what i was going to say it's the only form that's not cheating so um you know it's the only correct way of doing something it's a pretty strong argument right

there yeah uh and i guess for me personally if i if't, if it wasn't, if I was going to do something besides a Jefferson deadlift, which would be really rare, I would choose, I would choose to just do a conventional deadlift, I guess at that point. And this, so the thing with this is I don't know if you consider Jefferson curls, a variation of a Jefferson deadlift or their own exercises. That is also one of my favorite little-known exercises that don't get enough love out there. But you have to be careful because a Jefferson curl is also the name of a real exercise.

Is it seriously? Yeah, you'd have to Google it. I think it's maybe like a really, really long range of motion motion conventional deadlift where you purposely round you round your back over yeah i thought there was something am i right yeah yeah so a jefferson curl what you were talking about is the one of our followers did a really funny one where he did curls between his legs yeah i did not know that a jefferson curl was an exit okay so yeah there is it's you you stand on a box yep on the edge of the box it's like it's like a giant jeff a def it's like a giant deficit deadlift yep but you intentionally round your back you intentionally

round your back really hard and you just keep going until you're basically touching the ground. Yup. And then you come up still rounding your back. Like it never, you don't ever flatten it out. Um, I don't know what the benefit of this is,

but I do like how on wiki, how the last point in the to do is stop. If you feel any pain. Yeah. I just assume that that's going to be part of it at some point there um so maybe that if maybe that's the second best form of dead lifting is that the jefferson curl that might be a stretch i don't know if i can give that far that much to the jefferson probably a little bit unknown though that you know i imagine a lot of people aren't aware that that Jefferson curl, that's what that is. As much as I hate to say it, Jefferson deadlifting is still somewhat unknown. So Jefferson curling, I think, is really unknown.

Right, right. Wow. Well, I learned something in this podcast today. I don't know if I was ready for that, but I did. All right. Next question. How much is your gym, I'm assuming the massonomics gym worth on facebook marketplace right now i didn't even see that question otherwise maybe i would

have done a little uh little rough math on that i would say we're so we're talking the equipment inside of the gym i think so yeah we're not going to sell the name and the rights to the... Yeah, yeah. To Matt's gym. Because that's priceless, so... Yeah, and we don't own the building, so it would just have to be the weight. Straight-up equipment.

And I think stuff is kind of worth double... I think a rule of thumb is things are worth kind of double what they are normally used for. Is that safe to say? Like, if you have a... Let's say you have a rack that's $1,000. Could you sell it in a busier marketplace for two grand right now i think so our friend of the podcast jonah leo uh ipf multiple ipf world champion bench presser also

from south dakota here he has a pretty avid york plate collector yep he's selling some right now we were talking about this week you know he kind of wondered my opinion on what he should sell them for and everything. And I have bought a lot of those same York city has for about a dollar a pound in the, in the past, which is a good price, a fair price.

They could probably worth maybe a little bit more than that, or maybe you could get some for a little less at times. He's selling them right now for two 50 a pound and selling them like crazy. Really? And could maybe be selling them for $3 a pound. Wow. Which is that's kind of what you would pay for like new calibrated Rogue plates.

Yes, exactly. Yeah. Right. Wow. I didn't know it was like even like that on the weights. I thought it was just more on glamorous things like fancy racks. No, no, because even weights, I think maybe even especially what people are doing right now is they're casting their own they're using like pieces of pvc you know like the collar of a 45 pound plate that would go around

the bar they're using that like cutting a small a short stubby piece of like two inch pvc molding concrete plates around them and making weights out of concrete plates right now because people like can't get weights wow yeah i did see some of the concrete plates online and i didn't know if that was like a joke or an actual real no so that people are doing that there's some in minneapolis uh you know i i check minneapolis craigslist there's a some people they're making and selling them right now for like a buck a pound. That's insane. I think probably like $70,000, $80,000. If not, maybe a little more than that. And that's with the pandemic markup in it, correct?

Right. That's the pandemic markup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And most of our equipment was bought used. So I'm not doubling a new price of the equipment new. I'm not taking that times two. I'm taking the previous used market price and kind of doubling it. And that's probably about where we would be at.

Yeah, I think that's a pretty fair estimate. Yeah. Yeah. But then if you look specifically in Aberdeen, South Dakota, that's probably not also entirely true either. Yeah, probably not going to get that here. No. Well, you can just pack up and move everything to a different city, Tanner. I would shudder to even think of that.

Getting it out of the basement that it's in right now. Yeah, yeah, right. Something a lot of people don't realize unless you listen to this show a long time is that the gym is in a basement, which means carrying things up and down flights of stairs and everything got there everything didn't get there in one day everything has gotten there over the course of years at this point and to bring it all out in one day would just be yeah there was a few big milestones but nothing was ever done all at once. No, no, no, no, definitely not. That wouldn't be fun.

No, it would not. Next question, kind of tying into what we just discussed. Sorry, that last one was from D underscore Kuick. I'm probably messing that up. I don't know how you say his last name. This next question is from lift.smith. When will most fitness companies be able to catch up on stock? What do you think that's like equipment companies or like apparel companies?

Well, I would say there's a couple things here. Apparel companies, it's going to be like we're kind of going through with some of our vendors. Some are slow. Some are it's not an issue at all. So if it's apparel you're worried about, I think just keep checking in. There's a good chance that if it's not here next at all so if it's a peril you're worried about i think just keep checking in there's a good chance that yeah it's not here it's overall just a little slower than normal yeah right right it's just slightly maybe at yeah maybe we're talking weeks delays of weeks at most probably for most people i think but when it comes to equipment manufacturers

because things actually have to be built some things do a lot of plates do most plates come from overseas is that um i don't know where rogues are made okay i think that they are made overseas actually rogues plates but i probably shouldn't say that because i don't know that for sure, but I do think maybe Rogues are even, I know Titans and Reps are going to be. I just feel like I've seen on Garage Gym reviews, like bumper plates for sure. I think he said they're all made in the same factory. They're just branded different.

Right. That's what I kind of think the case is too. But to answer the question, we've talked to some of these, we were just talking about that before the show. We we've talked to some of these we were just talking about that before the show we've have had conversations with some of these bigger equipment manufacturers you know at least in the u.s and they are just it's not just a show that they're putting on they are very swamped like it is yeah most of them are still saying there's not really any end in sight

aren't they like no no that's i wonder if like six months from now if they'll be caught up to a certain amount you know it depends on so many other variables too but i think it's going to be many it's going to be many months that they're playing catch up on this i think i think that's a safe bet too i don't think by the time people hear this or a week after it comes out that it's going to be like, oh, yep, everything's back in stock now. I think it's safe to say through May, June, July of 2020, stock is going to be either non-existent or very spotty. And it's not going to be until towards the end of the year. But then again, you're getting closer to Christmas and holiday time. And that's also a big selling time, you know? So all of 2020 just might be tough right i think for

six months is like a positive estimate but i also would be shocked if it's like a year you know depending on how far behind they really get and stuff like i i wouldn't be surprised if like it doesn't take a year for things to get a little bit more back to normal based on how behind they've really said that they are so you're saying the liquidation isn't going to start, the home gym liquidation isn't going to start until 2021 then? That's kind of what I would think is it'll take a while. You know, I think that that won't, that will not be a very instant process. Yeah, that makes sense to me in our super educated opinions here.

Yeah, right, right. Next question. How long before you guys can get back together uh this one i think i'll take this one tan like dating probably uh yeah yeah just get back together please that sounds like uh when you're talking about like you're an ex-girlfriend or something like get back together yeah are you guys ever gonna get back together. Yeah. Are you guys ever going to get back together? Yeah. With this one, I think. Oh, for anyone that doesn't know that's listening, if you're not watching on YouTube, I think we do a good enough job recording this that people may forget. How many episodes have we done like this now?

Like five or something? Five or six, maybe. Five, probably. We're not in the same room right now. Tommy's at his house and I'm at my own. Yeah. So we're recording from separate locations um yeah so the big one right now my wife is pregnant and is due a month from now and that's more the time that you kind of need to be on a high alert with this um if you're

referring to the covid19 yes referring to covid19 um yeah especially with that when it comes close to uh being due hospitals are very on edge about how much you've been moving around and about in the world, especially when it comes to things like this and a baby is involved. And for anyone that has had a baby before, just everything, when you get that close, it's just like, let alone when there's not a global pandemic. It's like, you've made it this far. Let's just make it happen. Yeah, exactly. That is the truth. That is how it goes.

Yeah, so she's due on June 1st. I would say for sure we will not record in person before that time. Hopefully things start to straighten out. It seems like in some parts of the country there kind of are. Other places, they're not at all um june 1st you know that's five weeks from now probably not for a couple weeks after that so in my rough estimation having no idea what's going to happen i would say middle of june would be the soonest right that makes sense and i i wish that was sooner because it makes it really tough to do our,

we were really starting to hit up some guests on this thing. It makes it a lot harder to do once we're three phone calls deep to have guests and have it not be like this crazy delay of answers and responses. Honestly, it would suck. Like, I feel like it would suck if we were doing that. I wouldn't like that if we were having guests on with us not when we're you and i are in the same room together and having a guest that that's cool that works out well but i think it just gets too much gets lost in translation i think so too there's just you

lose that delay um at least you know with us we kind of we can look at each other and we have a sense of who's going to ask a question next and And you just magnify all that by a few seconds and things start to be unnatural in a hurry. Which we do have some really cool guests that we've talked to that we'll be able to have on. You know, if this didn't happen, we would have had a lot of really cool guests on the podcast already. Which is unfortunate for us and the listeners, really. already which is unfortunate for us and and the listeners really but like i guess in the scheme of things in the world that's not uh not the end of the not the end of the world and we have been able to still continue to not not miss a single episode granted we're doing it in a different way which is which is the only thing that matters right there have been a lot of people that have

showed their appreciation of that have been like oh i'm glad you guys have continued to get one out every week that's cool they're all more people the only thing that changes for the most part is besides not being able to have the call and guests is we don't have the video on youtube we put this out on youtube so people can still listen to it there but we don't have the video more people listen than watch our show anyways you know probably 10 times more yeah listen or if not more than that but there are the the regular youtube watchers they're always asking when we're gonna have a video again i don't listen to podcasts that way so i always forget about that as even i do too even even care about that but um we've put them out in video for so long i guess

a lot of people have just become used to used to watching us yeah and i feel bad leaving those guys hanging you know i don't i we will get back to it yes absolutely i think the video is an important piece of it so yeah that will it will for sure be back someday yeah just and we've actually talked to yeah and we've actually talked about doing some things to improve the video even once we do get back to video so maybe we'll yeah we also have plans in the works to to up the production quality around the video so something to look forward to later this year sometime right uh next question chris number two for chris two for how did you come up with the name? That's always a good question. That's come up many times probably. And

so the very start, Tommy and I lifted at the Y together and we were, we were friends. We were, weren't great friends at that point in time. We met, you know, we started knowing each other. We're two guys that lifted at the same time than anything. Yeah right um not because we weren't friends but because we didn't know each other right and then you know i don't know how long we had lifted up there the same time maybe a year i'm just guessing or something like that and uh one time i came up to you and i think we were talking about youtube lifting channels and this was probably in 2014 sometime and i said i think i want to start a youtube uh lifting channel and you're like oh that would be cool that's kind of the way i remember that conversation yeah it was it was actually it was actually no you you sprung it on me you

had said i started a youtube a youtube channel that's what it was you told me and i was like oh okay and uh you showed me i'm like oh what is it and you showed me your phone and the way it was it was like cutting off the image so all I saw was like onomics and I was like kind of a weird name but whatever man and then you're like oh no no sorry it's massonomics and I was like yeah that's really cool I like that yeah so the the way that that that name actually so that's that so when massonomics was people, and then we grew as much as four of them. You know, for people that haven't listened that long, they wouldn't even necessarily know this. It's been just you and I for a long enough time now, but it actually grew to four people.

And when it very first started, it was me and another guy, Austin, who's not here anymore. very first started it was me and another guy uh austin who's not not here anymore and like what it started as was this shitty youtube channel that i thought i was just gonna like videotape myself lifting and become famous like brandon campbell i guess is what johnny candido i guess is probably what i was thinking at the time style a little bit yeah training yeah training right um but at very first there that name didn't exist the first video went out as i was just calling it aberdeen strength training we live in aberdeen and i was just calling it ast that's what the first video was and it didn't take me very long to realize even at that point that that's not like a very scalable name like calling it something that you know and and and i was just even figuring out what i even thought that that if what i even was thinking it was going to be but anyways i was reading freakonomics the book at the time and

then i thought it would be funny if it was something enomics or you know just using that same thing and mass was pretty much the first word that came to my head that had to do with lifting and that I thought sounded relatively cool. I don't know. Maybe, maybe it's, I don't know what people think when they hear that for the first time ever, you know, and maybe that's confusing. But at this point it's, you know, for those that follow us, it's just like, uh, people get it at this point. I don't know. I think it's, you know, it might not, it might not be a word that you hear and you instantly know what it is. But also there's so few companies now that have a name that's also not like John's Lawn Service where there is some creativity.

And also then once you find out what it is, I think most people are like, okay, yeah, that name, it's cool. And I think it works for some reason. Yeah, it's certainly unique. I think it works for some reason. Yeah, it's certainly unique. I think that's an advantage, at least in some – but that's how it came about. But Mastonomics was by no means even close to what it is today when the name was created. I was thinking about that the other day,

how much it pivoted from different things. So it was the YouTube channel, and then with the other guy guy he was going to write blogs or write articles basically and that's what it was going to be didn't take us very long of that to to realize that that probably wasn't going to do a whole lot it didn't have a stretch where blogging was a pretty big part of what we did yeah and actually if you still go on the website, the blog is there. Do we have a hundred blog posts? I think there might be over a hundred. Yeah. Over a hundred. And that's something we haven't basically touched for a few years now. So over the course of a year and a half, two years, there was a post coming out almost every week.

Yeah. Yeah. And some of them were interesting and we all could, you wrote some, I wrote some, Tyler wrote some, Austin wrote some, we all kind of contributed to that. and some of them are interesting and we all could you know you wrote some i wrote some tyler wrote some austin wrote some we all kind of contributed to that and some of them were pretty and a lot of them are still relevant they still get a lot of traffic on google yeah yeah kind of funny some of the ones that do uh get traffic um the other thing about the name that i sometimes think about and i can't remember the logic behind this at the time. I think I know what I was thinking, but the way you spell economics. Right. Yeah.

And the way we spell massonomics, it's M-A-S-S-E. Yep. And that is not how you would spell economics with that E right there. It wouldn't be an E. It would be uh what uh an o yeah and it's but mass onomics does would sound weird to me i don't know why i think at the time i just thought it sounded better with the e yeah and like occasionally we have someone that says like macynomics or something they don't they don't say it quite right but it's one of

those things you know what when you're making up the name, you can do things. It's the English language. As far as it goes, if you ask 10 people, I think at least half of them would get it right. And if they don't, it doesn't really matter because once they find out, they'll get it right. And the other thing, there was the name and then our logo that everyone's probably familiar with. There wasn't the logo at first you came up with that not too far after the name existed I can't remember yep and that was when you showed me the uh the youtube channel I had made the comment of oh I could make a logo for that yeah and I was like oh that'd be cool and it was something I just kind of had I was just

kind of like thinking in my head for a week or two. And like one day it literally like hit me. I'm like, Oh yeah, I know exactly what to do. And it's one of those, like I make, I'm a graphic designer for a living. I make logos.

Um, you know, a lot of them take a pretty good amount of time, but for whatever reason, the massonomics M was something that I was able to, for the most part, get put together in like 20 minutes, you know,

spend some time refining it and getting all the spacing and proportional right and everything but that's one of the quickest logos i've ever made and i don't know why it was just and when you sent me that i was immediate like the first thing i was like oh yeah that's it it wasn't like oh could you kind of tweak like yeah stuff i was like oh that is cool yep Just one of those things that worked out. Yep. And here we are today. And here we are today. Also, here we are today is doing some ads, some ad reads.

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i'm gonna have to say i'm a i'm a man of class tanner so i go with the olive garden yeah we don't have either here. I've not been to either one a ton of times. You know, I've, of course, been to both of them. I guess I would probably agree Olive Garden's better. I think so. And also, like, Chili's, I get, you know, the Olive Garden, it's Italian food. It's not, like, hard to get.

But Chili's is just straight-up regular American food. Like, it's kind of what's on the menu everywhere else in the world. Applebee's, TGI Fridays, Ruby Tuesdays. They're all the same, right? More or less. They all have their own little differentiators. But that's why I got to go with Olive Garden. Yep, I agree.

Plus, you know, I'm really deep in the Sopranos right now. So I'm really taking in that Italian culture. Yeah, yeah. Sicilian, even. That's right. Next question on my list here from StoopLife89. Favorite beer? And that is a question.

It wasn't a statement. He's saying, what is your favorite beer? Oh, just saying, favorite beer. It wasn't a statement. He's saying, what is your favorite beer? Oh, just saying favorite beer. Hell yeah, favorite beer. Ooh, that is tough. I like, I'm pretty, I have quite the refined palate when it comes to beers. You do, Tanner. You are a man of culture.

I have a very refined palate. I would, actually my favorite, okay, I do know. I'm glad I thought. My favorite beer is, ever since I went to I did the tour of the brewery in Boston, it's Sam 76 is my favorite beer. That is a good one. I was leading into a joke by saying I have a refined palate. That is much more refined, even though Sam Adams is the biggest uh microbrewery or whatever you call it but um but besides that my answer would be coors light and mcgolden light those are my

mcgolden light is maybe my my favorite that and coors light mcgolden light i believe for some of our listeners is probably something that they're unfamiliar with or haven't heard of i think that is a little more regional to the upper midwest i don't think that exists in all parts of the country. We don't have a shirt for it. And we don't have a shirt for it, probably because it is a little too regional. For me, favorite beer, I am by no means a beer snob. I will drink almost any beer, almost any beer.

I have no problem with light beers, dark beers, anything. I think we get this question probably every time we do the question thing. I think we do too. We're now coming, we're now coming into summer. I do like Sam 76. It's a great summer beer. I want it right now, actually.

Yeah. This is the season for lighter beers. Absolutely. Uh, I do like Sam 76. I also like Kona big wave. That is a a a nice weather beer that i enjoy um and i also i do like an ipa yeah um like names of them golden light like mick golden light yeah it's just like that uh names of ipas i couldn't really tell you a ton

of um names i just go yeah whatever one is on the, on that list. Yeah. I'll take that. And I'm fine with that. So, right. Next question from fittest fat dad, how can I give you more of my money without, Oh, how can I give you more of my money without my wife knowing of course, mass undies question mark. Hmm. The giving us more of your money. We're all on board with that part of it. Like that's, that's a great idea in general. If I'd money we're all on board with that part of it like that's that's a great idea in general if i'd like to get everyone on board with that really yeah actually if you're looking for a really easy way you can go to our website uh scroll down in the shop there is a podcast sponsor level where you can right pledge to be a repeating sponsor that's a really

easy way to give us money it's not a lot of money but it is an easy way to give us money yeah and it's that's that would was going to be my suggestion is the massonomics supporting podcast member um as far as like how making sure how your wife doesn't know i guess i don't have a great suggestion i would just set up an entire web of lies like we're just one one lie feeds into another and like there nothing really can go wrong in there when you have a marriage just blame the pandemic and the stimulus check because no one really knows how that part's working so you can do that just don't don't just don't live what i'm saying is don't limit it to one lie make sure it's an entire web of lies that almost can't be unraveled and we also do our website does accept credit card, PayPal, and Apple Pay.

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for something a while ago yeah blame it on us yep you can always blame it back to us but don't give that person any way to get in contact with us we don't want to deal with that part of it no no no uh next question this is a pretty technical one. And, uh, it's from frustrating underscore strength, underscore athlete. It's, uh, he says, are good lift points going to revolutionize power lifting? And this, this is a topic that you could, we could probably spend a good chunk of an episode on, but we were, we were just talking before the show. This is something we're starting to care less and less and less about. And if you're not not familiar if you're not super up to date on things uh this might be news to you so what's being referenced here is good lift points what are good lift points good lift

points are the system that the ipf is going to be using going forward so and the way it works however many however many people are watching you lift in the crowd and they look at each other and go well that was good lift you get one point for every person that goes yeah that was a good lift yep and it also the total that you get is the day of the month it depends on what day the month it is and there's also a coefficient that builds in the temperature on that day too so exactly very very subjective it can move around a lot but yeah yeah it's it's supposed to be so the ipf a couple years ago was had used wilks points historically wilks is known as being an imperfect system we talked recently about how almost all the power lifting world has now moved on to dots i think two years ago the ipf moved over to ipf points which was a system that even less people cared about and now

i believe they've decided that ipf points also wasn't working so they're moving on to good lift points from what i see i don't think this is really even i think it's a lateral move kind of yeah if it if it's a if it's an improvement it's a very very very minor one and it's based off of i believe the the the person that maintains the good lift website so that's where the name comes from i think it's built with a um it's definitely built with a data set that is inferior to what open power lifting has available but for whatever reason that's the one they're using now i would not be surprised one bit to see this change again in a year or two i'll be honest they with their third scoring system in like two or three years they've lost me now i'm now checked out from whatever they're doing and

it's all meaningless to me because like you said i believe they're going to change it again and like that's too much that's changing it too frequently that to me it's becoming meaningless yeah and it just shows that how you determine people on a lot of these other things like it is just okay it can our criteria for who we consider overall winners yeah can just completely disappear overnight and it kind of ruins that part of the sport not that that is the most exciting part of the sport anyways is trying to compare those classes but it is something that some people do care about and this to me is just like wiping away any cares for it right you can tell me what your total is and what what weight

class you competed in and that's really the only thing that means anything to me at this point the rest of it i just like i'm i don't care anymore i really honestly it's like that it doesn't mean anything it's like cannibalized itself here yeah yeah I agree next question from our Andrew Baker what's the next Jefferson deadlift hmm could there ever really be a next Jefferson dead you know that answer that question with a question that is a very valid point that we're talking about the pinnacle of exercises here so to have something to replace it is a pretty bold move i don't know if there is or will ever will be anything because most other lifts are considered cheating that's kind of what we covered already and to me it's a timeless lift you know it's has stood the test of time

since 1776 until when it's you know still today the most recognized form of dead before barbell sports really even existed right so yeah i just i don't think there is the next one um you know we're talking about the je Curl earlier today, which is a deadlift variation. Maybe that, because it also has the name Jefferson in it. That, I guess, could make a shot at it. We'll have to see. Only time will tell. Up next, we have a twofer from aggeyer03. The first one here is,

if lift shorts could lift shorts, how much could lift shorts... How much lift shorts would lift shorts how much could lift shorts how much lift shorts would lift shorts lift i gotta say it one more time if lift shorts could lift shorts how much lift shorts would lift shorts lift that's a good question and if i really think about it if lift shorts could lift shorts how much lift shorts could lift shorts lift well right now the answer is zero because we don't have any in stock talking about can't get them yeah going back to that other question about when things are going to get back that is lift shorts are the one thing that we have struggled with on stock because of where ours come from but they should be back at the beginning of may here so within the next week or two, we should have those.

But as far as the question, is there an answer for that? How much lift shorts could lift shorts lift? Uh, you know what they always say? What I would say is how they talk about, uh, how multi-ply guys defend lifting multi-ply is they say, well,

you lay that bench shirt down on the bench and see how much it's going to lift. Because the bench shirt doesn't make the lifter. The lifter makes the lifter. Yeah, bench shirts don't bench. Right, when it comes to lift shorts, that is actually not true. If you laid a pair of lift shorts down on the bench, they would actually lift the weight.

So I don't know if there is a limit to it because the lift shorts on like multi-ply gear, they actually do lift the weight. Yeah. It's something we're going to have to keep an eye on now that I'm aware of it. I'm going to pay more attention to that. It really hasn't been tested yet.

No, it hasn't. Not saying it can't, but it hasn't been yet. And the follow-up, actually not the follow-up, but the second question from agguy03 is is is cheesecake a cake or a pie which plays off of our from conversation from episode 211 talking about the mass or the uh mcdonald's apple pie and our discussion of what is pie did you did you have a mc a McDonald's apple pie or not? I feel like you didn't. I didn't, actually.

I didn't. I'm going to do that. I got to do that this week. I'm going to do that. What do you say? Is cheesecake cake or is it pie? A cake or a pie? We talked about what pie is.

That's really tough because to me, it's definitely not cake like i think of cake as something that's fluffy and light and like like a it's not bread based but also usually it's not aren't the aren't the pieces rectangular of a cake yeah and not the truck the truck the triangles with the crust uh actually i shouldn't say i've never had a circular cake like wedding cake oh yeah that tend to be circular yeah i'm i'm gonna go i'm gonna go with pie on this one i don't i don't like the answer i think it's pie cake is a pie it's more of a pie than it is a cake i think so is it more what's more of a pie

a cheesecake or a McDonald's apple pie which is more of a pie one is called cake and one is called pie but I think cheesecake is more of a pie McDonald's apple pie is more of a pie it's just not in the correct shape it's in the turnover shape

not the pie shape but it is definitely it's roots are turnover shape not the pie shape but it is definitely it's its roots are heavily based on the pie family so right right right they just like folded a piece of pie over itself that's yeah that's pretty much what they did yeah uh when is uh next one from b amos Amos 51. When's that Massanomic six-pack shirt coming out? Tanner, do you know? We have put out the sixth beer-inspired T-shirt was the Curls shirt. So there are six beer shirts, soon to be seven. Actually, by the time you listen to this, the cat will be out of the bag on our seventh one. We haven't even talked about it, I don't think, on the show at all. But the seventh beer-inspired Massanomic shirt will be out of the bag on our seventh one we haven't even talked about it i don't think on the show at all but the seventh beer inspired massonomic shirt will be released so really

the dilemma then is do we need does a seven pack make any sense maybe we should just be ambitious and just wait for like that the 12 pack or the 30 rack you know yeah right the 30 oh yeah i don't know do we change the crispy boy banner to include all you know the crispy boy banner has historically been the big five really long banner are we gonna have to change it to the seven just keep change keep adding

it to the you know keep just like a living banner right right and upgrade yeah it would make it fun for us because people would have outdated banners and force them to buy a new 70 banner it's like planned obsolescence right right it's the perfect money maker yeah that's that is a good question we will keep an eye on that one well we can just even completely say what the new one is right actually wait there's another question coming

up here i'll there's a question coming up to address it i think that i've seen yes you are right yeah yeah but there is uh if we don't have your attention yet there is another shirt that will be announced on this podcast so stay tuned uh jordan underscore uh koki koki he says shake weight or hula chair i like this question oh i gotta go hula chair uh i was gonna say the same thing the hula chair is a throwback of engineering yep that is a that's a high quality piece of equipment correct did the the hula chair didn't fit under the bed though did it it doesn't fit under the bed but that's tough because that's like one of the number one criteria right if yeah it is it is in itself a chair though so if it if

something is it also a piece of furniture does it have to fit under the bed i think that's the one exception for something not being able to fit out of the bed is that it is furniture yeah and the hula chair the hula chair checks both pieces both checkbox that matter is it equipment and is it furniture and it's so several people have said that we need to bring back fitness's finest uh because of this coronavirus pandemic thing with all the additional crazy stuff people have been seeing that we need a almost like a special coronavirus fitness's finest yeah uh we we better put that on the list have our interns do some research and see what they come up with yeah we'll get the interns on it for sure also

from jordan uh cowkey you only get eggs prepared one way for the rest of your life how are you going to take them what do you do rest of my life like if we can so is this if we're saying scrambled eggs does that mean i can say yep i'm going to have a protein mixed in and cheese and i can have sauce on them and all that that's what i would say that's to me what i say if that's the case i would probably say scrambled eggs then because you can have the most variety of stuff in them yeah if it's just straight up only egg i'm going to say over easy egg because just plain scrambled eggs with nothing in them don't really do it for

me but also when i think about it i don't do over easy just plain with not toast or anything else either so right i'm just gonna say i'm gonna say scrambled yeah for me scrambled is an easy choice i have scrambled eggs literally every morning of my life for the last i don't even know how many years so i really like scrambled eggs i also like over i also like uh over me i i like almost every version of an egg quite honestly so pickled eggs no i do not really i do like i do the only thing i like pickled is pickles oh no pickled eggs especially when you someone makes them like spicy pickled eggs yeah now that that is a treat right there that i do like deviled eggs deviled eggs hard boiled i do like hard boiled eggs sometimes without sometimes like it's a little too little more rubbery than i like you

know and like the yolk i don't like looking at the cup you know the yolk the part of the yolk that's right next to the the egg white when it gets that color that's almost like green. I do not. That is not an appealing color to me. But I do. I do still like him. It's an egg. How about poached eggs?

What's a poached egg? I was hoping you would know the answer to that because I don't know. I got it. I got to look at a picture here. Poached eggs. Oh oh it's just okay here's the definition a poached egg is an egg that has been cooked outside the shell by poaching as opposed to simmering or boiling liquid i don't know tanner yeah it's too maybe that's too sophisticated for me i would go school scrambled yeah i'm cool with that uh

bacon and beer bell says have y'all done a fuck mary kill for squat bench and deadlift we haven't but we guess we should right now yeah i'm thinking about it for a second here do you do you got yours your mind made up tanner um let me start with the easiest choice first for me i would kill squats i would kill the squat that's a pretty easy choice for me between the other two so the choice is fuck or mary i would because one of those two lifts has never steered me wrong as far as injury or anything goes I would

marry the deadlift and I enjoy the bench press but I have had some issues with it in the past with shoulders so I would fuck the bench press and definitely kill the squat I assume your answer is going to be different than mine. Yes, I am absolutely going to marry the squat.

Me and squats have a very deep relationship. I figured you'd say that. It's just always good. It's always good. I will kill the deadlift because it's my most frustrating lift I have, without a doubt. I don't really, I mean, I do it. I don't care for it because it just feels like I can't make progress.

I'll fuck bench. I don't really, I mean, I do it. I don't care for it because it just feels like I can't make progress. Fuck. I'll fuck bench. That's, you know, that's something we both did that to. We bench really gets around then because we both did the same. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a good one. We also don't say the F word a lot on the show.

So that we don't actually gets that up quick. That gets our F4 f bombs up quite a bit for this episode wow yeah you know we do have one really long question here also from jordan cowkey again and i'm going to read this quick actually it's not quick it's going to take a few minutes but he says got an actual serious slash relevant question for the podcast apart from the funny ones couldn't fit it in the story relevant to the recent eddie slash half-thor beef do you think as the sport of strongman gains popularity the mutual respect between and for athletes will be somewhat lost especially as outsiders who have not competed are gaining interest in the sport and now becoming critics

in quote marks there do you think standardizing the sport would take away from the sports culture or would this help clear the waters and let the numbers speak for themselves obviously there will always be room for controversy like judging calls in powerlifting um i know you touched on some of this in 211 just curious to hear more of your guys's take on it so that's a long question the one part of it do do the will the standardizing take away from the sport that's what i'm taking out i maybe i'm just paraphrasing but what do i think the standardizing over standardizing would take away from the sport i would say yes to that because strongman is inherently not standardized historically to me that does take away it's

not i don't want it to just be a deadlift competition on calibrated plates that's not to me that isn't strong man so my answer to that part is yeah i don't think that's the right road i think it has gone that direction a little bit and i i get it i get it what get why but i do think that that takes away from the sport as far as what I consider the sport to be. I do too. And I don't even really compete in strong man, but it would be really lame to ever think that there could be a thing

where, okay, strong man is now known as these 20 events. Yeah, there's no, we don't, we don't substitute. We don't come up with other events or other variations.

It is these 20 events. I mean, that exists a little bit, you know, it can kick actually actually kind of does exist now but it's not on paper saying it has to be these things right oddball things can come up so i don't ever to me it just seems boring to think that it's going to say it's these 20 events and also uh the deadlift variation has to be performed with one of these four pieces of equipment for it to count yeah the overhead has to be using a log from one of these manufacturers like that sounds really really lame i don't think that's in the best interest for that sport no i agree and then next question

are tying in with that was i shouldn't say next question but looking back at what he wrote here is um oh yeah is this going to help clear the numbers i don't think i don't think you know we did talk about i don't think strongman numbers need to be super clear no i don't think that's the cool thing about strongman is there's different variations if people are that concerned with one lift being the best like that's what power lifting exists for. I agree. Yeah, I think the shift needs to be people a little less concerned about these specific number records or less worried about what counts or what doesn't count. The one interesting thing that he did touch on here, though,

is as the sport gets more popular, do you think a mutual respect between athletes will be somewhat lost? And I think that saying, you know, more, and he does touch on it with more of like outsiders getting in yeah i don't know i don't think like the mutual respect between especially high level competitors because you don't just accidentally become a high level competitor like that takes training and time so i think that it will always i think there's always going to be respect for people at the high level i can see if strongman does start to pick up in popularity more local contests having people just drop in yeah i can see how there'd be less respect but also those people that are like douchebags they're not going to last very long

anyways yeah and i think you have a little like i've done many local strongman competitions and there's always a good group of people that are like there's a lot of camaraderie because it's just the fact of you all training the way that you do for that sort of thing there's just an inherent like oh you're like me kind of like we're we know what each other's right right like and like i've met a lot of friends doing that um but i would also say there's always some people not always but there's always but i've come across a lot of people that, I don't know, I don't have that, share that with, or maybe I didn't, didn't care for them that much or vice versa. And I think you'll always have some of that too. And I don't think. And it's the same with powerlifting.

Yeah. It's just like powerlifting. And I don't think with more people, there's more or less of either. There's just, I guess there's just more of both, but on a percentage wise, I think you'd, you'd kind of find the same thing. There's be people you like and people you don't either way yeah good question though yeah and the final final question here body by waffle house says pbr parody shirt question mark answer yes and boy did you pick the right time to ask that question because yeah by the time this is out the shirts barring any type of major shipping emergency the shirt should be live and on the

website so yes uh powerlifting the blue ribbon sport everyone's a winner the shirt is live on the website yeah get yourself one it's. It's a new design from us. And just let people know that powerlifting really is the sport where everyone wins. Everyone's going to get a medal or a ribbon. Everyone gets a blue ribbon. Everyone can basically make their way into the top 10 on open powerlifting.

You just got to know how to dissect any competition and you can be a winner too. We made several memes and jokes about that sort of thing, and we thought that the Pabst blue ribbon tied in perfectly with that. It's a white shirt is the big thing on this. That's new territory for us too. Yeah, with a blue and red logo. And we also, along with that, we're releasing two white shirts at the same time.

The only other white shirt we've ever had was our Massanomics Is Numero Uno shirt, which is probably three or four years ago now since we've released that. It hasn't existed for quite a while. No, not for quite some time. But the Lyft shirt on white, which would be... I'm excited to see

both of them. Whenever we get a new shirt, it's always just exciting to see it for the first time, even though we know what the mock-ups and everything look like uh but it's exciting to actually see that shirt yeah and we have those some some lighter colors going into summer you know when you're outside sweating it out or when you're outside and it's 100 degrees and the sun's beating down on you a black shirt isn't always the best idea so right and what's the what's the rule of thumb on white and labor Day before or after? Yeah, so you don't wear white before Labor Day.

I think that's what it is. Or no, no, no. Memorial Day is the one coming up, right? Labor Day is in the fall, right? I don't even, I forget that. I think Memorial Day is first. I always get that mixed around. But yeah, I think Memorial Day is coming up soon.

Okay. But we will not hold it against anyone that wants to wear their white t-shirt before Memorial Day. Right. Just wear these two white t-shirts all the time, actually. Yeah. Or at the same time, even. Yeah. I'll put an important note for anyone looking at buying those that if you already have some of our other shirts, these ones fit, I don't know, what do you say, a little bit slimmer in comparison these are more similar fitting to our don't curl in me curls and maybe maybe kind of like our bench blue bench heavy yeah the other one yeah they fit more similar to that a little bit slimmer fitting than all those other all of our black shirts and our left shirt and almost everything else they they're closer to the don't curl in me and the curls like a slit and what i say is like maybe a little more similar to

some of the other big popular fitness t-shirt companies right yeah it's it's on the same t that almost every other fitness company uses so if you have t-shirts from another company it's you probably have a style of this right shirt blank already yep because our our shirt blank that we use for a lot of the other ones is a little bit bigger it's still like a tapered relatively tapered but it's just a little bit bigger fitting i guess yeah yep i would say that's all accurate yep so that wraps up the questions tanner uh those were all some some hard-hitting questions. Thank you to everyone that submitted one.

Should we hop into some over-under here? Let's just jump right in. We're getting kind of long on time. We'll just hop in then. I do have a quick piece of follow-up, actually. Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah. Regarding Monopoly, it's funny that that was a topic last week because a youtube channel that i enjoy watching called vox had a video i think the video was titled the correct way to play monopoly and they had a guy that was he's from

america he represented america on like the world monopoly games or whatever he uh finished in third of all the countries some basic monopoly strategy they said that the uh what what's it uh the expensive ones boardwalk and park place don't play those it's not in your best interest it said that corner of the board it said the warmer colors the orange and the yellow yeah those are the those are the ones you should be going after and that's kind of what i that's kind of what i was saying last week and i i don't i don't really care for the blues and the greens they're too expensive to maintain i i feel like yeah and they said that most people will land in jail and statistically with dice yeah with two dice the most common number is a seven and seven one on either side of the seven puts

you in those that that orange color whatever the orange slide are. Yeah. Those properties are there. St. James place, Tennessee Avenue. Yep. So statistically those are the, those are the properties that people are most likely to land.

New York. Those are the ones you should be banking. Yeah. So now you have that little, that little piece of piece of advice for the next game. You fire up there, Tanner. Yep.

Yep. That, that makes sense to me. Also, the thing is boardwalk and Park Place is a two-property monopoly, and also the cheapest two are only two. The other ones are three,

so you're just inherently dealing with one less space on those two properties. Yep. For what that's worth. Did they say anything about the utilities or the railroads? They did talk about it. And I'm so unfamiliar with like the more they're talking about, I'm like,

wow, this is just reminding me how long it's been since I played the game. They did mention that stuff. And I honestly don't remember what they said. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Topic.

Number one of this week's overrated underrated. Overrated or underrated puzzles puzzles i would normally say that puzzles are overrated just because i don't have the attention span for them and it seems like there's a lot of other better things that you could do i do think though in this current era that we're in current time i think puzzles are a little underrated. I think they're a good tool to pass the boredom, pass the time that doesn't involve sitting in front of a TV. So I'm going to say puzzles are underrated. Yeah, my wife has done some puzzles over this, and I've chipped in and done some, too.

And it's satisfying when you get a whole bunch of pieces in a relatively short amount of time. You're like, ah, yeah, I'm pretty good at this. I know my way around a puzzle. We have a thousand-piecer that we're taking way too long to do. Yeah, yeah. Overrated or underrated? Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk.

I think Tony Hawk is underrated. He has done a lot for the world of skateboarding. He's pretty universally loved. He has some incredible video games with great soundtracks. Yes. You might say that's putting him up on a pedestal, but I do still believe that Tony Hawk is underrated. He's a great guy.

Overrated or underrated? Heated car seats. Heated car seats are, without without a doubt underrated in our part of the world if you live in south farther i don't think that they probably really matter that much but where we live heated especially when you have leather seats and you have those negative degree days yeah it's like sitting on a cold rock. So, yeah, heated seats are, without a doubt, underrated. The 03 Buick LeSabre doesn't have heated seats for anyone. It doesn't? Wow.

No, it doesn't actually have heated seats. It is a luxury vehicle, so that's why I thought maybe they might have them in there. They are cloth, and they are not heated. Well, at least they're cloth. That kind of warms you up a little bit. Yep. It's really nice cloth, you can tell. Premium cloth. Probably Italian cloth. i would i would expect so probably got it at the olive garden last topic on overrated underrated for today boneless wings

boneless and are they wings as long as we're doing this thing now where we say are things really something overrated underrated are they wings? As long as we're doing this thing now where we say, are things really something? Overrated, underrated, are they wings? They're just chicken nuggets. Chicken strips, chicken nuggets, whatever your preferred. Strips is probably a more appropriate term. I think of nuggets as the spot, the processed stuff that's just been smashed into a sheet.

I think that they're overrated. I want bone-in every time. It's a more real meat source i feel like um yeah boneless wings are overrated yeah and what did you are they wings no they're not wings okay which do you like better of real wings the drummies or the um which you know of the actual yeah the wing or the uh what do they call it themies or the um which you know of the actual yeah the the wing or the uh what do they call it the wing or the it's a drummy a drumstick right or yeah i think so yeah yeah i like that i like the drummy more more of a drummy guy i don't actually i i would be very hard pressed though to i saying that i don't want all drummies though i do like the variety i agree with that i like

the mix i like the i like the drummies a little bit less probably, but I do want them to be mixed. I want to be able to go back and forth. Yeah. I'm like out of a 100-point scale, I'm like 54 in favor of drummies. Yeah. I'm the other side.

Yeah, I'm on the other side. Okay, so that's overrated, underrated, and that's our show for the day good a really good q a session don't you think it was a great q a session we got to a lot of important stuff maybe that we haven't talked about for a while we got to relive relive a lot of old massonomics history in there and talk about a lot of interesting massonomics future and new and new apparel yeah new apparel also we got to talk about our sponsors and we're going to get to do that one more time and new apparel. Yeah, new apparel. Also, we got to talk about our sponsors,

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