Massenomics Podcast - Ep.222: 800 Pound Benching & Dessert Tips with Julius Maddox

Episode Date: July 6, 2020

Big Julius walks us through the misloaded world record 800 pound bench press attempt.  Then we get into what the future holds for him; log press world records, World's Strongest Man, NFL... Most impo...rtantly, we get a rundown of his best fast food recommendations. Hybrid Performance Method: https://hybridperformancemethod.com/ and use code MASS to save 5% on all programs Lifting Large: https://www.liftinglarge.com/ and use code MASS20 to save on Lifting Large branded products Spud Inc.: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, thanks for what you do with your podcast and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.
Starting point is 00:00:15 If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! We're back for episode 222 of the Massanomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing. My name's Tanner. And my name is Tommy. Today, you're going to find a lot of good info, a lot of insights, teachings how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength.
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Starting point is 00:03:04 Got a few of those around our gym. Never done anything to them. And they've been put through the ringer. Yes, and have given them no maintenance. Actually, not true. Brushed them down a little bit, oiled them a couple times. The basics. Yeah, it's not necessary, but it makes me feel better.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So really maintenance-free. It's nice to have things that look nicer. Yeah, so those are our four sponsors for the show for episode 222 here we do have a guest for this show but of course our format we're not going to talk to said guest right away julius maddox yeah we got to do some of our own time yeah we're going to talk about our own things a little bit but i am curious to see what julius has to say yeah we talked to td smash last week about uh the big beasts of the bench, but I'm curious to hear what Julius has to say, too. Get that second opinion.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So we are recording this, yeah, July 1st today. Yeah, the 1st. Halfway through the year now. Yep. And we just, we kind of wrapped up our Crispy Boy Summer Giveaway. We did.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And that was kind of that was fun that was uh it was 30 shirts in 30 days 30 days that we gave away for free to our loyal supporters that were were following us on following along on instagram um it was fun except for picking someone just like picking one a day is not you wouldn't think it's that bad and like just shipping one picking and shipping that one shirt but i not you wouldn't think it's that bad and like just shipping one picking and shipping that one shirt but i'm kind of glad that it's over because uh well because when orders come in off the internet that's just like the orders there you do it like here you gotta reach out to people right information from them find out what they
Starting point is 00:04:37 want yes a few extra steps than just taking orders it's way more intensive actually like it's surprising how much more for just that one. But it was cool, and everyone was really appreciative of it. Everyone that won was super stoked. We actually gave away a few bonus ones here on the last day. So I think we ended up doing 34 shirts in 30 days. Don't say we never did anything. No, no. Really, don't say we never did anything.
Starting point is 00:04:59 34 shirts, that's not nothing. No, it's not. And it was cool to see every because a lot of them that people would be so jacked you'd see posts and then a couple days later you'd see them with their shirt on yeah so it's fun to do uh fun to do some something like that where we're giving back a little bit which is funny to think because like in 2016 when we first made a few shirts um before this was even really the company that it is right now yeah you know like it was a different thing yeah yeah like when i just had like 20 shirts uh-huh and like i wouldn't even give them to family members without
Starting point is 00:05:29 them buying them you know it's just gold yeah it doesn't get given away like no give me the money and when there's no site and you have to collect cash from people there's still people that owe money for those that original run-up shirts that never paid paid their 20 bucks yep and now the interest rate on those they owe like gonna be good oh no they owe like 23 dollars by now yeah yeah and the other thing of significance um i mean it's no 200 podcast reviews but we did hit 30 000 followers on instagram this month which, doesn't really mean a lot. And the higher that number goes, the less it really does matter for anything. But it still is kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Like it's a big even number. Yeah, I think it's cool. We know that followers don't directly transfer to sales necessarily or that sort of thing, but it kind of has to, right? It does matter to an extent with, with that being our primary marketing channel that if Instagram did go down tomorrow, the business would be in a very weird spot. And when I say weird, like they're bad, bad. Yeah. Bad is what I mean. Yeah. Outside of emails, we wouldn't be able to communicate with people very easily at all. So emails, though, have been cool.
Starting point is 00:06:47 You can sign up for our email list on our website. I think it's at the bottom of every page and also maybe just even pops up once you go onto our page. Or when you order something, you can sign up for it there. And we've started to send out more emails on things. And I don't know. We send them out.
Starting point is 00:07:02 People get out sales, things like that. People get all over it. When we have cool emails to send out, that really makes you feel like a real company does it for you. A real business. That's right. What I was going to say about Instagram, though, is Instagram, I don't know if you want to say the algorithm,
Starting point is 00:07:18 that's such a generic thing, but something has changed big time. And anyone out there that, I don't know if we have any listeners that have their own instagram business pages can vouch for this for us on this that they have changed something drastically and i've heard a bunch of people in the space say the same exact thing yeah it like the other day i just heard huck finn for example talking about her stephy
Starting point is 00:07:41 cohen the other day and hayden both talking about it that like Huck Finn, he's got 170,000 followers. His numbers almost overnight, not over last night, I don't know the day in the sand day, but went down like to a 10th, like one 10th of the engagement that he was getting prior on his posting. What I'm kind of talking about is like the rate of followers. That's changed drastically too. And you want to say like for us looking at it, it's, it's how much is, is Instagram putting you on the discover page and places like that. But even that it doesn't completely add up because it's, it seems like something's off, but for us, you know, we make a lot of memes. And we've been doing this a long time. We know that a funny meme can generate well over 100 new followers.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yes. There's no debate about that. That's how it's always been. And it seems like as you get bigger, that should almost continue to reach even more people, more funny memes. Right. Something happened where a funny meme can get two followers now. Yeah. something happened where a funny meme can get two followers now.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah. And you can see in the numbers that it's just, it just, something doesn't add up. They did change something. Yeah, the meme itself can, it can still get 50,000 views. It can still get 4,000 likes. Thousands of likes. And we have had some ones lately that have been hitting on a lot of cylinders that have been going really well,
Starting point is 00:09:04 but they just are not converting to the followers like they used to. And the Instagram machine is behind it somehow. I don't know how it all works. None of us do, of course, but there is something there. There is something at play. And I've tracked a lot of other companies similar to us in the same space, and they are facing that same thing. There's still things like contests and that sort of thing that people will get bumps from that you can notice. But in general, the velocity of new followers for almost anyone that I see has tanked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:34 But how is that good for instance? Well, obviously they're trying out different things. They're trying to push different content in front of people. And for whatever reason, they've decided that the meme format that we're doing isn't something they want to get out in front of people. But I wonder, too, like if the business pages, you know, because that's an option to switch to a business page, which we are a business page versus a personal page. If they're regulating those that are not paying for any advertising because we don't pay for any advertising.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Right. Yeah. Yeah. We've never done an ad on instagram before but maybe i don't it's so much of a speculation i'm sure there's someone out there that would claim to have all the answers on this but i yeah because we don't pay for advertising what we do is make content that content that's a little original a little funny and it kind of yeah the way we get paid back is by it has organic reach right right yeah i don't know. And like we've said this, I think, a few different times where it's like something has changed. And a lot of times, by the time we even talk about it,
Starting point is 00:10:32 something's changed back again already. Like it's always moving around. It's a guessing game. It really is annoying, though, how much control they have on it. Well, and this brings, I mean, to a bigger extent, this like highlights the problems of people that are like YouTubers guessing game it really is annoying though how much control they have yeah well in this spring i mean to a bigger extent this like highlights the problems of people that are like youtubers when they say like youtube can just turn off videos on them or just demonetize them overnight that's really scary too right that that is basically a faceless machine that you you have
Starting point is 00:11:00 complaints too bad you can't do a thing about it. You're screwed. There's no customer service or anything to help you out. You're just done. Right. You got to diversify. And one of those ways we diversify is by podcast supporting memberships. Excellent segue. Those things have been going nuts lately. So thank you to whoever is, I shouldn't say whoever.
Starting point is 00:11:21 We know exactly who you are. But thank you to the people signing up for the podcast supporting memberships because it still blows our mind that people want to support us. June was an exceptional month. We've only been doing it for a little while, but June really picked up some great momentum on the supporting members. It did. And not only did it bring up some great momentum,
Starting point is 00:11:44 it brought a new level to the price point we we've had the i think actually maybe in early june we added yeah i think two new levels in june two new levels we started june with the adding the 99 cent apple pie level you know something classic accessible for everyone that's the entry level that is the entry level yeah uh if you still delicious still a delicious. It's not a piece of crap. Still satisfying, but it might leave you wanting a little more. Right, right. And then we had the $3 level, the LaCroix level,
Starting point is 00:12:12 for a person of a more refined taste. And then we thought, well, the high rollers have to exist at the lift shorts level, which is $6. And of course, that is the high roller level until an even bigger high roller comes along and says i want a twenty dollar level that they came to us and said yeah because you need a higher level to us a twenty dollar twenty dollar a month level sounds insane yeah the the plat what do we call it the platinum lift club yeah yeah it's the the platinum lift club level
Starting point is 00:12:43 of twenty dollars now exists and there is a supporter there yeah and you you know who i i won't say your name because i don't know you might some people might not want their name yeah we don't want to call it but you you'll listen i mean if you're paying 20 bucks a month you better be listening to this like or you really just have money to blow but you're listening if you want your recognition for that out we would even give you recognition for that but i'm not going to put anyone on blast in case they don't want but but we do really But you're listening. If you want your recognition for that, we would even give you recognition for that. But I'm not going to put anyone on blast in case they don't want to. But we do really appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:13:09 We appreciate all the levels, really. All of them, we do. It is cool. It is quite the weird phenomenon, though. And people like my wife still have a really hard time wrapping my head around that. Yeah, so that's really fun. It makes us even more excited to keep doing this. I mean, we're always going to do this no matter what, but the excitement,
Starting point is 00:13:29 the level of excitement can increase with a few more supporters. If anyone wants to support at a level higher, what about this? If anyone wants to support at a level higher than $20 per month, we will let you name the, are they allowed to chip the record at one cent no no no no no see that's that's a good point you have to be at least probably like 50 above it or 25 above it or something yeah but you could maybe even name or have influence in the naming of the level i guess there's no limit to the number of levels we could have it's just a few clicks of the button yeah it's as far as i know our website does not limit the the number of options it's just i'm worried about things get out of whack if the if too many levels start to exist above the lift shorts that's because that was supposed to be the ultra premium right right yeah it did almost
Starting point is 00:14:14 throw our naming convention for a loop but how do you make the most premium more premium you had the word platinum platinum plus platinum medallion members. It's like the boarding. Our supporting membership scheme system of naming is not all that unsimilar to the boarding of airplanes. Yeah, pretty similar to that actually, yeah. Last but not least, we're boarding the pieces of shit apple pie levels. Yep, now that the platinum lift club has boarded, everyone else. boarding the pieces of shit apple pie levels. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Now that the platinum lift club has boarded everyone else. The last person to board, you're the person that sits right next to the toilet on the airplane. You can get on. I have heard, were they talking about switching the way that people board, like through the coronavirus thing, like actually putting the people on the back first so that it's not like this.
Starting point is 00:15:03 It makes sense. So not everyone walks by everyone, right? The process of boarding and exiting planes sucks. Oh, yeah. There's like... Someone needs to invent... I'm pretty sure there's been like extensive studies on how the way we do it is almost the most inefficient way.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Like there's all types of different ways it could be done. I'm glad to know that that's maybe proven because it sure seems like it is, right? Okay. I know there is a video. There's a YouTuber called CGP Grey where he like dives in on stuff. He has a video on this. I think he said that just letting people board randomly would actually be about the same amount of time as the way it goes right now.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Like in no order at all. Just come on, everybody, get on the plane. I think he said that is about the same amount of time as what we have right now. Something to keep in mind. Yeah, no, it takes no convincing of someone explaining to me that the system now sucks because it does. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 One of those things in the past. Yeah. But thank you to everyone that has been sponsoring or supporting us. That is super awesome. Let's get some more. Yeah. Let's get some more. Sign up a friend, steal your wife's phone and sign up on hers too.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And we have been bouncing around some ideas of things because because that's the other thing it is yeah i should remind everyone that is not a one-way street um we don't have anything firm in writing but we do send some surprises your way when you're when you're in the club so right something to keep in mind and we are going to keep that going too so if you have gotten a little surprise from us uh don't don't think that's it there'll be more coming, there'll be more little surprises. Yeah, got to have the surprises. Tanner, did you see on Netflix? Have you been on Netflix lately?
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yes, I've seen Netflix. There is a show on there called Home Game. Don't know it. I haven't watched it yet. I just saw the trailer go and it's a it's like a 10 episode documentary and it's just all it does is focus on i'll read their description here profiles unique and dangerous traditional sports from around the world as well as the communities and cultures where they thrive so looking at it uh power lifting in there power
Starting point is 00:17:03 lifting is not but the second episode is Highland Games. Oh, nice. So I haven't watched it yet. A couple Highland Games vets right here. I was going to say, you know, as a veteran of the sport, I probably won't learn anything new, but it's not too often you see strength sports featured on a Netflix documentary of some kind.
Starting point is 00:17:20 So it's always cool. Is it a good, well put together show? I think it is because I actually did start one up yesterday because it sounded insane and then i i got distracted had to had to go away but it's i'm going to say this wrong but it's like uh coke brew and it's in um is it kurjizistan is that how you say it so it's it's like polo where the guys are on horses, but instead of having a ball, it's a dead goat. And it's pretty wild. I just started up a little bit, but yeah, I didn't get to see the rest of it. Is it dead when they start playing?
Starting point is 00:17:55 It's dead when they start playing, and they're basically trying to get it in this huge hole, and supposedly it's a sport that's been done for thousands of years there. They also have roller derby, free diving, it's a sport that's been done for thousands of years there they also have roller derby free diving um some uh something that involves wrestling in the congo and some other things that i don't know how to say so yeah 20 25 minute episodes you know you can plow through them in a hurry i i'm interested in that i think so that's on netflix you say yeah i'm interested in that the only show that i've been watching lately which i'm addicted to do you know the show alone at all it's on netflix
Starting point is 00:18:31 though isn't it season six i think is on netflix i thought i saw a picture pop up it's now the only show that i like to watch until i'm done with it and it's just the the two minute gist of it is it take it's a reality show and it's what I would call a real reality show in the sense that it takes 10 individuals and places them in the wilderness. They're all separated from each other. There's no contact with each other. And like on the first couple seasons, they're on Vancouver Island, which is on the West Coast, obviously, and very, you know, not populated by humans.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It's a giant rainforest, basically. I think it is considered, not what you'd normally think of as a rainforest, but I think it technically is considered a rainforest because of how much it rains there. But it put them all there. You know, they're all separated enough by water or land masses that none of them can get in contact with each other they're probably in all like a 50 mile radius though and they get to bring 10
Starting point is 00:19:31 survival items each like saws or old-fashioned segue scooters allowed no i haven't seen those they might be but i haven't seen anyone choose one okay it's mostly like fire uh little metal things you scrape to start fires yeah yeah that sort of thing and whoever taps out last wins half a million dollars oh so it is a long it's a marathon yeah yeah like uh i i won't say but like the the winners of some of this it goes on for months for the winners really yeah that they're alone in the woods and these people are good at what they're doing yeah some of them are some people are gone like day one and i'm like man i could do that like i could just find a spot to be somewhat comfortable and not yeah yeah and um it's just really crazy also they force these people have to become cameramen because
Starting point is 00:20:20 they have to record themselves like so they have mini cameras they have like a life alert button like when they're done they push the button and they just come get them yeah they have a phone and like a gps thing and all that stuff and or if in case they they a lot of times people get severe cuts or bad bug things or that sort of or they get scared to death of bears in the middle of the night or like in some they're in patagonia in one of the season and there's puma around oh yeah and like they're known to just they only like attack you from behind and like go for your throat like that is insanely scary okay so this this did you ever watch naked and afraid i've seen it before maybe yeah kind of yeah it sounds like almost the same concept as that and i think in that one though it's always i have seen a decent one episodes it's
Starting point is 00:21:03 been a little bit but i think it's always two people. And I think they try to make it a month, like 28 days, I think is what they try to go. Right. And it is shocking the number of people there that will fall out in the first like day or two. Yes. And then it's like one person just on their own for so long. And they also do the thing where they show like, all right, the person came in and they lost 40 pounds over the course of the month. That happens a lot and also like some of these people will not eat food for like six days because
Starting point is 00:21:31 they can't catch any fish or they can't uh and they eat mice and basically anything that uh it's really interesting though what i guess at at the core why i like it is because it is actually reality television yeah it is yeah it is more it is pretty entertaining like it is because it is actually reality television. It is. Yeah. It is more, it is pretty entertaining. Like it's just taking people back a few centuries. Yeah. The producers can do things with the footage to maybe like time things and work things around and stuff to maybe make it more exciting. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Right. But really at the core, there is no like fake. There's very little fake stuff. At least that as it appears to me on the, on the surface, that's why I like it though. I'm at, if you get that on the list here.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Almost all the people break down emotionally. It doesn't surprise me. Being alone, no human contact for months. Yeah, that'll do it. The old solitary confinement in the wild. Yeah, and there's this carrot at the end of it, this $500,000 that people like, you know, and most of the people doing this are not of means. So $500,000 is a life-changing amount of money.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Yeah. So it's like these things happen to them that they have to tap out, like they get hurt and stuff. And it's like devastating to them because like they are. It was almost in my fingers. Really? And you, and none of them know if anyone else's none of them know the status of anyone else so you don't know if you tap out no like they just tell you when it's done or they what the person that wins they because they do towards then they have to do these health and welfare inspections they have a doctor
Starting point is 00:23:02 come check on them i don't know if it's like once a week because people will get so skinny and but they will not they refuse to quit that they will pull them because you know your body uses it well then it starts to use its muscle and they're attacking the heart and that sort of thing and so they will pull some people and they look anemic at that point like they look very unhealthy yeah um but but what they do is for the actual winner when they're gonna win they'll come out there for a health inspection and then at the end of it they'll interview them a little bit because they must do these interviews with them when they do this because they have a camera there yeah uh and they'll have their spouse or their daughter or whoever come out from behind
Starting point is 00:23:46 the trees randomly and this is after months of them not seeing a family member and like the reactions when they see their family member are pretty intense where i'm like that is pretty crazy you know like you see those videos of where like someone comes home from being deployed for a year and some of the reactions when they have no idea, and they just hear some rustling, and they turn around, and it's pretty crazy. You've almost been a prisoner of war in your own mind this whole time. Yeah, and they have no idea that it's over until that minute.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And then you can just see the gears turning in their head where they're like, oh my God, you're here. And that just means I just won half of a million dollars. And it means I get to go home today. I'm done with this. Yeah, that's pretty wild half of a million dollars. And it means I get to go home today. I'm done with this. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty wild. So a good show.
Starting point is 00:24:28 That was actually more of an explanation that I planned on giving. Fairly in-depth. Actually, you know what, Tanner? We have cans. We've got to get to those, too. Oh, great. What's in the cans? Do you want to guess?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Oh, is it a guess? You can if you want. Is it a guess? I will give you the hint. You've had it before. Okay. But we also have now featured, I don't know, 20-some flavors. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So go ahead and take your chance there. Give it my best shot. Give it your best shot. Pat Benatar. Pat Benatar. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Mm.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Peach pear. You're getting good. Peach pear. You're getting good. Yeah. I am getting better. It is one of the classics, though. I would have never known that. Peach pear. You're getting good. Peach pear. I am getting better. I would have never known that was peach pear. That is how I know your palate is refining Tanner. That's true. How many people do you think you could give a peach pear that I've never had a LaCroix and be like, taste this.
Starting point is 00:25:17 No, no one would ever say peach pear. This doesn't taste like anything. I think there's something wrong here. Nothing? Flavorless, bubbly water? Mm-hmm. Should we mention at all that we were on someone else's podcast? Well, we probably could because...
Starting point is 00:25:34 Because it would be out before... That podcast comes out before this podcast comes out. Oh, is it on the order of things? Yeah, because I just... Well, even if it's not, it's going to be really soon. It's not a huge secret, but to put it in context, it's Wednesday. The podcast we were on, we already recorded last week or like 10 days ago, maybe even. That comes out Friday.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And then this show comes out Monday. Yeah, so we were on the Starting Strength podcast. With Mark Ripto. Yeah, like 10 days ago. And it was, for us, it was an unusual experience because we've never been a guest on someone's podcast before. We've never done it. And then to have it be someone that's pretty high profile in the strength industry. For sure. Like there's not many people that don't know who Mark Riptoe is. Yeah. I remember when I first started getting
Starting point is 00:26:21 more into lifting, like 2010 ish, he was one of the few people that I came across like instructional videos on YouTube fairly regularly. Like that was, that was, that was an untapped market at the time. Like that was not a thing. Um, you know, if you're looking for like deadlift and squat tips on what is the way I'm supposed to be doing this, there wasn't a lot out there and he had quite a bit of content even then. Uh, that that's i mean he wrote the book on it he did write the book he wrote the book on it yeah and uh so it was it was kind of like a weird thing like oh my god we're doing a podcast and like he's known who we are for a while yeah i don't think he follows the social media world of no not like super close so it was probably i mean he's definitely
Starting point is 00:27:02 some things that we do that he has no idea about right and some of his people that work for with starting strength know us better yes yes some of his yeah some of his uh team members you could say are younger team members are very in the loop on what we do and that's i think probably where the the connection you know really started there was was through them but uh it was a unique experience being on his didn't like we you know when we have guests on we have a fairly good idea of what we want to ask them and we just tell them don't worry about anything and it was like what do we have to have stuff prepared to ask you and well that's what we we it's hard not to look at it from the point of view as the people running the show like it's like no no we're just here like you guide us you know we have we hopefully have
Starting point is 00:27:46 something interesting to say otherwise what are we even doing on a podcast of someone else's the the big one the big one for for me i think you would agree with this tanner is i think the pacing of our podcast i think they're much different i think we're kind of firing off things like we understand we've done this long enough that we know when one person gets on talking the other one can go right away yeah we don't i guess we don't have a huge list of notes for what we want to talk about but the conversation flows fairly fast the whole time i would say um mark ripto moves at a very different pace than our pace yeah yes very different like and that's by his nature you know that that's who he is. It's not because he has nothing to say. He has tons to say. It's just he says
Starting point is 00:28:28 his delivery is very different. And there was multiple times. There's pauses. We don't have pauses very often. Pauses are rare for us. We don't have anything so profound to say that it needs to set in. Now I'm going to keep my mouth closed for five seconds while you process what I just told you. And that's why. And yeah, there's no time for reflection in what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:28:51 We're just moving along. But whether he means it or not, he has time for reflection in his. And there were several times where I remember thinking, are we supposed to say something now? Are we supposed to? And it's like, you're about to say. And then he goes again. It's like, okay, yep. that's just one of his breaks there yep so uh yeah that was that was
Starting point is 00:29:09 probably the the biggest change was oh yeah we're on someone else's show we go at their pace now yeah mark's obviously very opinionated if anyone that doesn't follow them like very very opinionated on almost everything he probably has an opinion um but i don't know it was cool being on there it was cool we got to play our overrated underrated game on his podcast with him yeah and then the other thing you never know how like an episode is going to be edited like we almost don't edit our episodes like at all right um and they do i think a little bit i think they do a little bit i mean just because they said at times like all right there would be some edits here yeah our conversation was i think it think a little bit. I think they do a little bit. I mean, just because they said at times like, all right, there will be some edits here. Yeah. Our conversation was,
Starting point is 00:29:47 I think it was a little over an hour. Yeah. I don't know if the actual thing will be a little over an hour. If it would be 45 minutes, it's one of those things you always wonder like, all right, what, what does make the cut? Does it all make the cut or does some things just go away? Right. So yeah, I'll be, I'll be curious to hear that one. And yeah. And you can watch it on YouTube. You know, he has a top on YouTube. Yeah, we did record. You know, we're on a television screen next to him, I believe is the way that that's going to look,
Starting point is 00:30:11 what that'll look like on the video. So, fun experience. Yeah, it was a really cool experience. Probably excited to see how famous it makes us here next week. It actually, they do, Starting Strength has a very strong group of supporters behind them they do uh they really do like they've it was a cool opportunity for us really they've shared some stuff of ours in the past and uh it was it was obvious that the starting strength crowd what it was resonating with them
Starting point is 00:30:36 because we saw some pretty interesting numbers move around yeah and so it'll be curious yeah to see if uh this this does anything does anything from that point of view. Well, so make sure to go listen to that to hear us, you know, see how we're different on someone else's show, too. Yeah. It is different. I was much more nervous for that than for what we do normally. Oh, for sure. Like, I mean, we can at least talk about what we want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I don't know what we're going to have to talk about on someone else's show. Right, right. Or if they'll have anything for us to talk about at all. Right. Well, should we get ready for our interview here, Tanner? I think so. All right. But before we get to that interview, we got ads to read.
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Starting point is 00:35:16 Excuse me, sir. We were trying to find the man with the biggest bench press of all time. This is him. Can you hear me? What a coincidence. Yeah, we got you. Can you hear us loud and clear? Yes, I can.
Starting point is 00:35:29 All right, awesome. Glad to have you on, Julius. Appreciate you guys having me. Well, man, start off with the most important thing. I like to ask everyone this. We featured you in a really big battle recently. You went against Orange Julius in Mastinomics Versus. Do you think you came out on top in that one?
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, I dusted him off the dribble. I dusted him. Yeah, I think that's fair. It's hard to compete with a 775-pound bench press. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is. About two miles more. It is. That's too long for it. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:36:08 So how are you feeling these days? What's after the big show, what's training look like? What's life looking like right now? So currently, you know, we're doing a reboot. We're just going back, scaling everything back. We're going to get a bunch of volume in. This is typical. This is what I've done over the past five years.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Nothing has really changed. So, you know, how it goes is just lower the intensity, you know, crank up the volume and, you know, go at it. So just trying to especially focus on my weaknesses, which is obviously my left arm. I don't know why I'm always having issues with that side. It's not that it's weak or I've had surgery or injury. It just gives out first.
Starting point is 00:36:59 We're working on some things to help strengthen that left side. Right on. We talked with Big T.D TD Smash last week, actually, and we got to talk about the big beast of the bench meet and everything, too. And I know it's kind of in the past now, but just wondered if you had any take in particular on that meet. And also, I mean, what a lot of people would be curious about is the misload. I mean, that was probably the craziest thing that could have have happened i just wondered what your thoughts were on that i mean
Starting point is 00:37:29 of course after the meet in the heat of the moment there's there's many different emotions you know i've kind of experienced through that but in the moment i was very angry um just upset very emotional about it you know um and then i kind of moved to a phase where I was like, you know, it happens, you know, for a couple of days. And then you start to think, you know, like, did they, you know, and I'm not saying they did. I'm just saying that someone spitefully set this up from the beginning. That would be terrible.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And these are just thoughts that are playing through my head, not, you know, not accusing anyone of anything. You know, I'm very close to the owner of the gym and those were, you know, his spotters. So I'm not really putting the blame on anybody. It's just out of, you know, 10 people around. How do you not or misload the weight how do you misload the way i just you know that's a question that we'll we'll always continue to ask you know yeah that that's a super high profile lift to be missing the weight on like we compared it the other day to uh you know saying the idea of someone misloading thor's 500 kilo deadlift or 501 like that that wouldn't happen
Starting point is 00:38:45 why would that ever happen and you you would think the same thing on the bench so yeah it's really unfortunate that you had to be in a situation like that yeah and I mean a deadlift like you can feel it right away right yeah you come with the bench yeah you can feel it right away but once the weight's out and over your head over your face over your body yeah it's over your body there ain't no coming back from that. Unless you got good things that they were right there anticipating that something could possibly go wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I'm just, like I said, there's still frustration behind it. I'm not mad at any specific person. I'm just more mad about the situation of just getting robbed in general yeah it sucks go ahead oh it sucks it just it's terrible then i gotta deal you know with telling a hundred thousand people hey look you know it happens and people are more pissed off
Starting point is 00:39:43 about it than i am because i mean ultimately in order for me to move past it, move forward, I have to put it behind me, you know. So it's just, it's very, very hard. But just the fact also that, you know, when we're trying to monetize powerlifting to where the athletes get some kind of payment, it doesn't matter. Even if it's $100, $200, you know, they picked the worst day to do that, you know, to not be on their P's and Q's when it comes to that. You know, broadcasted across the world on ESPN, number one sports platform on the planet.
Starting point is 00:40:20 You had, we built the hype up. It had plenty of viewers and, you know, dropped plenty of viewers and dropped the ball. Just dropped the ball. You got four national judges. Ed Cohn was there, and they kind of put him in the background. And that's one thing that pissed me off, too, is I get the rules and regulations and all that stuff. They just try to be too strict. Maybe I'm talking a little too much,
Starting point is 00:40:45 but anyway, it, it, um, they, uh, you know, I think that they should have gotten more lead way.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Maybe he would have caught it, you know? Right. And there was a lot of judging, you know, what talking to Thomas last week, you know, the butts off the bench.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I can't recall seeing that called that many times ever, let alone with the best benchers in the world. Yeah. I mean, again, it just, it, it, it just made it, it made it, it made the, the, the, the whole process of this just look like a clown did it, you know? I mean, it's just, it was a show, it was a clown show and I'm not, not because they were very very professional but whenever you
Starting point is 00:41:27 are so strict in one area and you forget to follow up on the other area it makes you look like you know it just it's not what I'm just saying it's what other people are saying to me you know so it just makes them look you know kind of funny you know so
Starting point is 00:41:43 yeah anytime I talk about it I get hyped up yeah So it just makes them look, you know, kind of funny, you know? So. Yeah. Anytime I talk about it, I get hyped up. You should be though. It'd be weird if you didn't care. Yeah. You know, it's like, man, I put time into this. We ain't talking.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And I know my time that I've been in the sport of powerlifting hasn't been as long as others but I put in just as much work I sweat just as much you know I felt the pain just as much you know so um there's times where trying to balance life and powerlifting almost broke me like it's it's just deeper than that like I'm dealing with my life here, my well-being. I have so much passion for people, and I want to see people win, but there's got to come a point to where, again, you know that somebody at this level is about to do something that nobody has ever done. Again, we have to make sure that we follow up on every single thing, especially if we're going to
Starting point is 00:42:48 call and point out the small things. You know what I mean? We're going to call those things out. This is an obvious. It's a gimme. It just fell through the cracks. But again, I get it. We're all human. We make mistakes.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I'm just going to move past it. My platform, don't get me wrong, I was angry. I wanted to flip some stuff. I wanted to say some stuff that I just didn't want to get out of character because my platform is full of kids and teenagers,
Starting point is 00:43:22 not just athletes and then people who you know love the sport or love what i'm about they just my audience is a lot of younger people and their parents are following too and you know um that's a part of who i am today and i'm big and certain my community so like i want to be an example yeah and i think i think that says a lot about your character though that because a lot of people in your situation would just go off and i mean you see it at even local meets of people freaking out and pissed off about everything and so the fact that you kept it together in a situation like that i think that does say a lot about who you are
Starting point is 00:43:57 yeah it tested me that's probably one yeah i've been living a different lifestyle um that's probably been one of the biggest tests that i've that i've experienced as far as like you know in a public setting to where things could have went really wrong but you know i handled it like i've always uh talked about and said i would any kind of adversity or or anything like that You know, we live – the biggest thing I get out of it is that I live another day to hit the platform again. So I know that next time I hit the platform, it's going to be a smoke show. Ain't no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You know, I'm going to show the world what I'm made of,
Starting point is 00:44:42 and then we're going to go and transition to other sports. And we're just going to have fun with it. Yeah, and I think you have a track record of doing that already, too, because you take a look at when you originally broke the world record. There was some controversy or something about the lift. But then not long after that, you go, I don't know if it's, you know, the numbers, but 30 pounds more and crush it. So then all of a sudden everyone completely forgets that that even was a thing, you know, just months down the road. It's,
Starting point is 00:45:16 and I can picture this being the exact same thing. You know, there was this, uh, misload and just shitty circumstances, you know, for you, for, for you. But then, uh, I could very well see this 800 pounds getting crushed. And then all of a sudden everyone kind of forget, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:32 this is just a small bump in the road at that point. At this point. Yeah, I think so. But man, that's, that's a, that sticks out.
Starting point is 00:45:40 It's like, you know, I agree. People will ever forget that. I agree. That, that, you know, it is what it is. But this goes back before then. The first time I broke the 700-pound barrier, I hit 705.
Starting point is 00:45:58 This is at an RPS meet. Hit 705. Then I went to 723 to break the the national record at that time and as i was coming out to get on the bench they noticed that they misloaded the weight wow so how can that be happening with that much i just it's i don't know it's i think people are just shocked about it. Again, they're just in awe of it, the weight. Again, we've never seen anybody do something to this weight. You hate to make excuses for people, but you just wonder, 700 pounds on the bench is not something that anyone ever loads, so it just must be such uncharted territory that people are messing it up that much i don't know i i put myself in the that circumstance of i'm the loader for the for the meat you know and i it you know i don't want to bash anyone too much but if i'm the loader for that meat i would be so nervous i would look at it you know i would count
Starting point is 00:46:59 it 10 times like i would look back onto the the screen look look at i mean you couldn't count it enough times i would be counting it right up until the moment you walk out there to do it. From Loewen all the way up to the judges. Some guy commented and said it's his fault. Him and his spotter should have added the white up to make sure it's correct. thought him and his spotter should have uh added the white up if i sure is correct before your fault yeah i mean you know how it is yeah social media i mean guys are just yeah that's
Starting point is 00:47:32 full of it though yeah so imagine that though like that's what you're gonna worry about at that point in time with everything you've got to get into there and like i know that's clearly a person that doesn't understand how this works at all right No, I'm not right. That's clearly a person that doesn't understand how this works at all. Right, right. Yeah. And see, so like, again, and then trying to manifest that fire that you get, the adrenaline rush and trying to get that, build that back up is nearly impossible. Even if I would have waited, you know, 5, 10, 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:48:01 It's just, you can't, that was my first ever 800 pound attempt, you know? So it kind of, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't set well. So just the middle game is like, do I have it? Is it there? You know? Uh, yeah, that's, that's a hurdle for sure there. We talked about that exact thing a while ago, but what you're talking about, this was like a build up for months to this one moment, and you progressively got probably more intense over that whole time to build up to that one moment on the bench press, and then it gets screwed up. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:38 That's what happened, and I'm thinking in my head, I knew, whenever I hit that bench i knew that i knew that i knew that 800 was going to go up on that misload i knew that i was going to smoke at weight and it was just you know stuff happened and and went for another attempt and at the end of the day i didn't get the weight i didn't come home with the weight regardless of misloads regardless of anything that that's a fact so that's what i have to tell myself is regardless of of any because i i used to have problems with going to different meets and i would hit weights in in the gym and then be kind of shaky and when it came to the actual meat day on my lifts so So I just, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:25 I had to have a mindset of wherever I went, it doesn't matter where, what I have to face any adversity when it comes to meat day, that I'm going to bury it. I'm going to crush it. I'm going to kill it out. And establishing that mindset at that point in time, like I'm about to go bury this weight and, and, and, and, you know, nothing's going to stop me and I get to the bench and I'm fired up and I'm ready to go. And this happens. It was just, you know, it was no way for me to bounce back. But moving forward, it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:59 you have to make sure that undisputedly that you go get this weight without any disputes, any disputes any disputes you know it is what it is so do you have a plan in place for what what your next meet would be like or is that still uh something that you're working i mean we're we're building it up you know i'm talking to some people we're trying to make this thing happen um and have a bigger platform have it again televised and make it shake. You know, I'm just trying to pioneer a way for other athletes, for the next Julius Maddox that comes
Starting point is 00:50:33 and give them an opportunity to be able to display their feature strength in front of the world. I'm not positive yet if there's going to be another Julius Maddox. There's going to be a – I know,'s gonna be i know i'm just saying just yeah yeah if i'm just yeah yeah you know i'm just but it's it's true though you know whether it's going to be a squatter a deadlifter or a venture right you know um those i know what what the lifters experience and what they have to go through and for them to you know just have little recognition of something that they put in so much time for um you know they deserve better
Starting point is 00:51:13 they deserve more so i want to i don't know what i'm doing i just want to make it to where you know other lifters get to uh display display their talents in front of everybody, in front of the world, have that opportunity. Yeah, for sure. What about, and you might not necessarily have or want to talk about the answer to this, but I just wonder, you kind of mentioned something on the TV broadcast even, and I know you've talked about the log press before. I just wonder, you know, I know the next goal down the road
Starting point is 00:51:49 is to get this 800-pound bench, but is there something, do you have some leaning towards competing in strongman at some point in time? Yeah, I want to break the log press record. Do you have much training experience with the log right now? I mean, I can overhead press 500 pounds. Right. Don't get me wrong. It is. I've, I've, I've done my fair share of trying to, you know, adjust to that type of training, not necessarily training, but you know,
Starting point is 00:52:18 the log press is very, um, you have to have it down to a pat as far as technique. And, you know, I can't just man this up. Though I can press it if it's at my shoulders, it's about, you know, rolling it up over your chest and getting it in position. I have a big belly, so ultimately I'm going to have to lose weight to get to where I need to be for the log press. But, you know, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm going to do it. I'm really excited for that. That's just the biggest bench of all time and the biggest log press of all time would be pretty sweet. That's an impressive resume. So, I mean, like, and not just that,
Starting point is 00:53:04 like, I want to go into it for, you know, just like a dream of mine or another goal I would say is to completely be the world's strongest man. Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Can I do it in two years? I don't know. I'm not putting a cap on this, but I want to do it yeah so that would be and that's what I thought you were getting at and you know I wasn't positive but uh that would be will be very cool to you know for us as spectators to watch uh as you go down that road too that'll be awesome well yeah I appreciate that man I just again I just want to, a lot of times I go deeper than probably what I said, but I mean, at the end of the day, it's the truth. I want something in their life and wish that they, you know, sought out to do other things also. And I just don't want those opportunities to pass by.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Because one day I know that I'll look back and I'll regret those moments that I didn't take those chances. So I'm just going to leave her empty. I'm going to make sure that I've poured out and done every single thing that I had the opportunity to do. So that's kind of – it may seem cheesy, but, you know, I want to – just like whenever you're a kid and somebody tells you how you can be whatever you want to be, that's kind of how I am right now. Whatever I want to be, I'm going to be it.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I'm going to do it. Yeah, well, you're doing it man the dallas cowboys called me tomorrow and said hey look we got a spot for you come on down all right send me out i was i was literally waiting when when you were finished i was gonna ask i uh let's see you live in kentucky right i don't know what the closest nfl team is you, but that wouldn't be crazy for them to be like, hey, why don't you come for them to bring you in for a pro day or something and bring you in and test you out at D-Tackle or something.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah, I mean, I would love to experience it. I think that at the end of the day, again, whatever I set my mind to with the drive that I you know, at the end of the day, again, whatever I set my mind to with the drive that I have today is, is, I mean, I'm going to, I'm going to be best at whatever I do. So, you know, if it came to that, I'm going to be, I'm going to be the best at that position. So, you know, if I had that opportunity, I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:55:38 I'd take it real quick. I'd like to see that too. I would love to see it. Yeah. Julius, we've got this little game we play each week. It's called Overrated, Underrated. We go over a few topics, and whoever we're playing with has to decide if each thing is overrated or underrated.
Starting point is 00:55:57 You can't really ride the line in between. You've got to decide on one. We've got some topics, especially-picked for Big Julius today. Are you down to play? Alright, let's get it. Don't judge me. Just warning you, you've got big shoes to fill because
Starting point is 00:56:15 Big TD Smash did pretty good last week. Alright, let's get it then. We're going to see. Topic number one, overrated or underrated fat pads underrated what did you bench on in the in this last meet i'm curious what what how wide is that pad that you're allowed to use in those meets i think it's just it was the uh the actual um certs that
Starting point is 00:56:43 yeah they qualify for uspa so it's like 12 inches wide. Yeah, I think that's right. When you're training, are you always training on a fat pad? Yes. Recently, I've been training on a ghost bench. Their wide pad or whatever it's called. The idea of using a standard bench pad doesn't even seem possible. I have to do it. I have to do it.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I have to do it. Really? No, no place really allows you to, um, bench on a fat bag. Well, and people that are listening that maybe haven't seen you in person before we,
Starting point is 00:57:14 we have, we have met you in person before. And like the thought of you using the same bench with, I would just say everyone else just like bench on a two by four maybe. And that's what, that's what it's like for you. You know? So I think it's more of a balancing act.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Go ahead. I'm sorry. I said, I think that's more of a balancing act for you than a lift at that point. It is. It is. So just imagine trying to stabilize 800 pounds on a toothpick. But the ghost but the ghost
Starting point is 00:57:45 the ghost is I mean I know I'm supposed to be wrong but their pads are a little seem a little wider and thicker
Starting point is 00:57:51 than your average pad so but still if it's not just to be honest it's not like the width of a fat pad
Starting point is 00:58:01 it just I feel that's why I feel most comfortable I get more leverage my back is just, I feel, that's why I feel most comfortable. Um, I get more leverage. My back is supported. So I feel like I utilize, you know, more muscles, you know, simply because I'm more stable. Right. It makes perfect sense. And it's one of those things that's kind of, it's like when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:58:18 why is that the rule even that it can be 12 inches wide? I mean, it's just kind of one of those things. It's like, why should that be the limiting factor of how much you you can bench i have no idea they should at least let like the super super heavies uh you know bench on a fat bag yeah yeah some kind of pad that's that's that's wider because i mean at the end of the day uh i'm 460 63460 6'3", 4'60". I train back four days a week. Some type of muscle group. It's almost impossible to stay
Starting point is 00:58:53 stable. I've just learned to be able to hold off on it and keep my balance for a brief time. But it's dangerous. Okay. So you said underrated on fat pads though for sure yeah people they underrate them okay all right topic number two we know you're from kentucky not too far away so and we're from south dakota we're up here up north
Starting point is 00:59:18 we don't have a lot of experience in that neck of the woods, but overrated or under underrated Nashville, Tennessee. Underrated. Is that, is, is that, I mean, you're like, what do you mean about Nashville?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Like just the city. What's it all about? Yeah. The experience, you know, it's a lot of been there. No, no, we never have been.
Starting point is 00:59:40 And we know you're pretty close. So y'all love it. I promise you, you'd love it. If you, especially if you like different genres of music, and obviously country music uh but it's just there's a lot of places to eat i'm all about food i love food they have some uh pretty good places down there uh and uh you know it's just it's you know it's a place to go i'm only two hours from
Starting point is 01:00:03 nashville so if you want to get a what because i live in a little small country a little small It's a place to go. I'm only two hours from Nashville. If you want to get a one, because I live in a little small town and we're in rural areas. So it's easy just to go to Nashville, get a hotel room, and have a good time with your friends or your significant other. Right on. So you said you love food. This fits in perfect with our next topic and also something we don't have around here. Overrated or underrated Chick-fil-A? Oh, underrated.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Underrated. Underrated. What's your go-to from Chick-fil-A? All right, so I'm about to tell you, I'm about to give you a fat hack real quick. All right. We got some from Thomas Davis last week too, so you'm about to give you a fat hack real quick. All right. We got some from Thomas Davis last week, too, so you're up to bat now. Have you ever ate Chick-fil-A?
Starting point is 01:00:50 I've had it a few times, yeah. Okay, okay. So how was your experience? I'm sorry, I just have to ask you real quick. Mine was fine. It was good. It was good. What did you guys get?
Starting point is 01:01:03 I've had their uh chicken sandwich i've had their um do they do they call them strips or their nuggets whatever i don't know i've had the chicken i think they do have strips too but mostly their little nuggets i've just had like the regular chicken sandwich that has like pickles on it i think and that that's sort of yeah yeah yeah see i don't know if that's your sort of thing, but I get my dress. I like, you know, lettuce,
Starting point is 01:01:26 lettuce, tomato, you know, mayonnaise, but you always got to have the Chick-fil-A sauce. You got to dip it. But so they have macaroni now. Oh,
Starting point is 01:01:35 and their macaroni is not like the macaroni you get from KFC or, or wherever else you get macaroni from. This macaroni seemed like it's made by angels. And you take this macaroni and you get the chicken sandwich with the lettuce, tomato, and you pour the macaroni on top of the chicken sandwich. Okay, I can dig that. And then you take the Chick-fil-A sauce,
Starting point is 01:02:02 take the Chick-fil-A sauce, and you pour it on top of everything. The macaroni, the sandwich, the chicken. And if you're really feeling saucy, then you can go with, they have a cheese sauce too, almost like a queso. Okay, yeah. Cheese sauce makes everything better. You can get that and throw that in there. So you kind of dip that a little bit every now and then.
Starting point is 01:02:27 That's my go-to. You're making me hungry. I'm hungry now, too. A quick follow-up to that question. Big T.D. Smash told us that we always like to get people's input on fast food dessert. He was a big McDonald's holiday pie
Starting point is 01:02:41 fan. Do you have any fast food desserts that you could recommend? Oh, here's a fat hack. TD's close. He's there. He's almost there. But have you ever took an apple pie and crushed it up in the ice cream? You know, I've never done that.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I have heard people say that before, though. Take the apple pie, you crush it up, put it in the ice cream uh you know i've never done that i have heard people say that before though take the apple pie you crush it up put it in ice cream or you can put it in the uh the little um the yogurt mix that they have oh yeah yeah the berries that's even better the parfait thing or whatever yeah berries but i don't know if you guys know this but dairy queen i mean not dairy queen Dairy Queen, I mean, not Dairy Queen, but Burger King has the best apple pie on the planet. I didn't even know Burger King had apple pie. I mean, here in Kentucky they do. Let me tell you what, their apple pie, when it's heated up, they're supposed to come hot. When it's heated up, I promise you, you're not going to find a better apple pie than Burger King. So is Burger King, you know, because McDonald's calls it the apple pie but i don't know it's
Starting point is 01:03:46 questionable if that's pie does burger kings look like a piece of pie or what does burger kings look like it looks like a piece of pie okay so they're keeping it classic with that yeah yeah and it's got the crumbles on it oh it's fancy then oh yeah it's i mean it's amazing it's next to greatness all right i gotta get that on the list. Yeah, that's all great advice that we got from you here. Okay, that's great. Okay, last topic, and this is probably the biggest, hardest-hitting topic on Overrated to Underrated this week.
Starting point is 01:04:16 All right. Overrated to Underrated, riding lawnmowers. How is that even a question? I mean, of course, it depends uh i mean are you talking about zero turns or just like a regular ride well i think that we we we dug up a picture you and i'm pretty sure you were on a zero turn zero turn baby even though it's like the donkey or mario kart let me tell you what uh zero turns are it if you if you got i would say a half acre or more you need a zero turn yep it's just i used to look at people be like how are they even enjoying mowing their yard like that's stupid and you know i found myself i got my beats on
Starting point is 01:05:01 whether a podcast yep or or wherever the case may be music and I just I'm just out mowing the yard you know just thinking and processing things so it's apart from you know my allergies bother me like it's I mean I like I like doing it like mowing the yard I've been paying somebody to do it now because I'm so busy. Yeah. But you know, there's times where, you know, if, if I, if I'm free,
Starting point is 01:05:27 then I'll get out and mow it. Yeah. It's like that form of meditation for you. Raw versus a quid. No, no, just the hard hitting issues here. No,
Starting point is 01:05:39 just the lawnmower and Chick-fil-A questions. Those are the most important. That's right. Well, you good, good news. Yeah. Those are the most important. That's right. Well, you good, good news. Yeah. Good,
Starting point is 01:05:46 good news though. You passed and you did great on overrated underrated this week. You did. You knocked it out of the park. I'd say. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Yeah. That kind of wraps up what we had for you. Is there, is there anything like in the way of things you got going on? I know you're, you're selling some uh irregular strength shirts and that sort of thing or any sponsor stuff you wanted to talk about yeah you know of course i gotta give uh some some my sponsors a shout out uh but we got ghost uh
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Starting point is 01:07:05 We have life-balance CBD. The gummies are fire. They're great. They work well, especially for recovery. And, you know, I'm a home gym. That's about it right there. You know, wrapping it up. But ultimately, my wife
Starting point is 01:07:21 and gotta give glory to God. It wraps everything up. Awesome. Well, thanks, man. We appreciate you having, having you on here.
Starting point is 01:07:32 We'd like to do it again someday. Uh, and we'll be excited to watch you hit that 800 and everything you do after that. I appreciate you guys. Hey, thanks a lot. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Thanks. Thanks. Those fast food tips. Yeah. You gotta give me some feedback. Let me know what the deal is. Yeah. We'll let you know what everyone's response is to how you did, too.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Here's another one. I'm sorry. I just took your time. No, that's perfect. What do you got? Guys, Denny's has a banana cream pancake that is out of the world. banana cream pancake that is out of the world. And one more is probably one of the,
Starting point is 01:08:07 one of the, the latest is Wendy's. Yup. That's the new breakfast menu. TD smash. Oh yeah. He said, he said the bacon, the breakfast Baconator,
Starting point is 01:08:17 right? Yeah. And the honey biscuit. Oh yeah. See, I got it. I haven't had that yet. Oh,
Starting point is 01:08:23 look, I'm telling you, go there, go there in the morning it's it you know you wendy's that that um that sausage uh bacon sausage baconator whatever it's called yeah uh the breakfast sandwiches it's it's out this world i mean and the the the wedges but i just get you know i have passion behind it. Do you like Frosties? Frosties are all right. They're not great, though, are they?
Starting point is 01:08:50 I'm sorry, go ahead. They're not great. I mean, they're all right. They're not great. Ice cream's always good. Yeah, yeah. Ice cream's always better. But they do have chocolate chip cookies, and you can take those chocolate chip cookies,
Starting point is 01:09:00 crush them up into your Frosties. The crumble. It changes the game. Yeah, makes makes sense but other than that it's guys that's about it uh i appreciate you guys all right okay guys in the next round all right thanks man yeah thanks a lot that was fun that was fun that was great uh He had great tips. He did have some great tips. Yeah. The one thing that I just wanted to like laugh about the whole time is when he says, when he says, you know, I do what I do now. I really dial back the intensity.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And I'm thinking like your dialed back intensity is still more than anyone else looks like ever his dialed back intensity was like 585 pounds for sets of six exactly yes it doesn't make any sense like that is your dialed back intensity like the scale is just so awful way out of what everyone else in the world does no that was really fun having him on i thought he had like a lot of uh interesting points in a first we kicked off with some serious stuff and then b he did great with uh over our yeah yeah um might have and might have entered an apple pie competitor to the race here that we didn't know existed yeah so julius not just a great bench presser also a great overrated underrated player wow that was great man of many talents that's that's true should we hear from our sponsors i think so i think we should
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