Massenomics Podcast - Ep.240: Tim Grissel of Ghost Strong

Episode Date: November 9, 2020

Tim Grissel is the man behind all that badass Ghost Strong Equipment that you keep seeing pop up in gyms and competitions everywhere.  We find out if life at the Ghost Strong factory is just like Orange County Choppers in the 90's. Hybrid Performance Method: https://hybridperformancemethod.com/ and use code MASS to save 5% on all programs Lifting Large: https://www.liftinglarge.com/ and use code MASS20 to save on Lifting Large branded products Spud Inc.: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

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you know we do like to talk weather and stuff and like other uh things going on in the world you know a lot of things going on what i was going to say it gets dark really early now i don't know if is that a weather thing uh it's not really weather but like it's not directly weather but you know daylight if someone's going to talk about the weather right right now they would also say it gets dark really it gets dark really early today was maybe one of the nicest days of the entire year. Today was beautiful. It was like 68 degrees, zero wind. It was really, really nice. I think that doesn't happen in November.

Especially not in Western, Northeast, South Dakota. It does not. That's a rarity. I actually, the family and I went for a walk this evening here, like at maybe like 536. And it was almost like shockingly nice out where I'm like, what? Something bad about to happen? Like, why is it so nice out right now?

I always take the dog for, not always, but I try to most days take him for a walk around the block at noon. And today I just had to extend it because it was so nice and it's especially around here when the wind isn't the wind's always blowing it's always blowing you know i live on the edge of town so you get it even more and like when the wind isn't blowing like something's it's too quiet right now something's going on but yeah you're right you do get that odd feeling yeah so we got that going for us i guess yeah yeah it was like the nice i even said a i said um what what if you could be at a place where it was always like this and like there's not mosquitoes right now it's weird it's just like suck about so enjoyable yeah huh yeah just another day in western northeast south dakota you get a couple of those a year. Yeah. Tanner, I do have to say, this past week, I was on a phone call with someone.

And they used the phrase, with everything going on. And before we got off the phone, said, cool beans, and hung up. They said, cool beans? Yes. And they definitely do not know what Masonomics is. What if they secretly do though? They got up the phone and like, they're really tricking me there,

but I really don't think they do. But I was like, when they said, when they got the, oh, well, with, you know,

everything going on, we don't know. Like that whole phrase came out. Right. And then wrapped it up with, okay, yep, yep.

We'll be in touch next week. All right, cool beans. And I said, wow, this is like the chances of both of those happening in a random conversation right if they were they were they were their druthers short of hitting the trifecta of being like okay you listen okay knock it off you listen you're doing that what am i doing what no no i didn't do anything i don't listen to that

uh i read i think it was in our local. I was reading an article and they were interviewing college students about something. I can't remember what the deal was. And like two of them both said the phrase like in the, I was reading this on, in the, on the paper online and both said the phrase with like, with everything going on. And I'm like, oh yes, everyone just really does say that. It's the blanket statement. Yeah. It's like, oh, with everything going on, it'm like, oh yes, everyone just really does say that. It's the blanket statement. Yeah, it's like, oh, with everything going on,

it's been a real challenge this year. Oh, that and just the number of, you could probably search, anyone listening could probably search on their phone or their computer, their email inbox and type in the phrase uncertain times and you would probably have 10,000 emails. With these uncertain times. Oh my God, that phrase has been used

10 million times in the last thank you delta and every other company that i've ever done business with any company i've ever worked with ever thank you verizon like for having my back in these uncertain times and not doing anything different at all like verizon like you're the company that makes these remote like just maybe have better just like better coverage maybe like like it doesn't have shit to do with everything going on just make your stuff better anyway it's like with everything going on is irrelevant for you it is uh but tanner with everything going on uh so everyone wanted you know this is our mega election episode everyone wanted to know

finally we're turning this into the political podcast that we've been wanting. But this is the time to announce that weed will be legal, not only from a medicinal standpoint, but a recreational standpoint in South Dakota. So this is where we transform from massonomics to grassonomics standards. I do like that. This podcast is going to get a lot more fun. We might really, we've talked about it before maybe we do need to do a marijuana themed shirt i know at some point well we have the perfect i know we actually have several ideas yeah yeah we and we just haven't done it but this might be like the

the tipping point motivation but we were even talking about that was the most exciting part about the election at least locally is that um i don't even smoke weed, but I think it should be legal recreationally. Yeah, it just seems like South Dakota likes to sell itself on being this place where freedoms have no bounds. And so it's like, well, if you're going to do that, you can't have it both ways. Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. And the funny part is our governor, who is all about freedoms put out many many commercials saying south dakota you don't want this you don't want the south dakota this isn't safe for you right um and i don't think this is a really is a political discussion is just like yes it's a yeah smoking weed doesn't seem that like that

should be a legal discussion discussion yeah i think it's more like if you're over the age of like 60 it might be scary and everyone else is like oh it's like a thing people do right uh but and some people do not everyone like it's not like it's not like it's gonna open up and the the world's just gonna cave in on itself no no and um but i i think it i was very surprised that it passed i i was too i have said multiple times in my life well south dakota is going to be like one of the last states to pass or it will or it will be legal federally and somehow we'll still have yeah we'll still have a rule that south dakota doesn't allow it right that would be i mean we we just got a can you even grow hemp in the state like that was they were they were fighting at that

there was even all summer like issues of like just people transporting hemp seeds even i think yeah not even yeah yeah for purely agricultural purposes like our legislators couldn't figure that out this summer how they were going to make that work so and now the people came in and said no no you can actually just smoke it let's just make all this easier for you guys that can't seem to get shit done like you idiots that we were just you were literally just talking about a non uh like you know that thing our economy is completely based on agriculture quit trying to like hamper that we'll just skip past that and go right to this recreation part uh i'm sure there'll be some battling and stuff like it's not it's not all gonna be as easy as everyone hopes probably like oh it's legal now and it also doesn't come around until

like july yeah i think because and with everything going on with everything going on i mean it's gonna go to hell now that people can smoke marijuana i know like i don't know how things are gonna function then yeah but grassonomics could be a good shirt it could be yeah that could be a a lot of good ideas there before it would have been illegal for us to make it uh would have been under a heavy scrutiny yeah but now it can be like no you can do that here yep are you speaking of uh weed are you thirsty at all i don't know if that's really i yeah i'm very thirsty actually. Because we've got a good, a really good.

This is kind of also, this is kind of the Power Man 5000 situation. Worlds are colliding again. The classic Power Man 5000 where what's in the can meets Tanner Sack. Because what's become very popular, it's very in vogue with the mass dynamic community is sending us sparkling water beverages for once in the can. I like it when people do that. Yeah. And this,

I guess I can't talk about it yet. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But this one is, is very unique and special. Okay. So you definitely want to have your eyes closed.

Cleanse my palate. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And let me dig it out. And it is in my sack. Are you, do you need palate heavily. Yes, yes. And let me dig it out. And it is in my sack. Do you need my can? Yes, yes.

My eyes are closed. Tanner, I had to do just a little bit of traveling yesterday. And I've noticed that most gas stations, just because I don't leave town ever now, just because there's almost no reason to do that anymore. I was surprised to see several gas stations that I stopped at carry ahas and bubblies. So when you're on the road, you have multiple choices.

Well, soon they're going to be carrying weed. All right. Okay. It's going to feel a little different than what you're used to. Okay, we got a shape here. It feels like a... Is this a twist cap? I can't... Yes. She's a twist cap i can't yes yeah yeah she's a

twist oh there it is okay yeah oh oh shoot i haven't looked yet but it was spraying on me i wonder if mine's probably gonna do the same thing then i guess i'll go a little slower well i think it's safe to say it's carbonated tan yeah yep that gave that away that wasn't part of the trick it wasn't like like, oh, here you go. I'm kind of smelling peach right away, I feel like. Oh, mine didn't fizz up at all. Well, I'm like covered in it right now. And it's still dripping on me.

It is dripping all over Tommy's shirt. I feel like I'm tasting peach. I just had my first sip of mine. I gotta say, it's gotta be peach something, but it tastes almost a little... I could see how there could be something sour even in there, like apple or something too, maybe?

And I haven't tried... I'm just now trying this beverage for the first time as well maybe even maybe if it's just sour apple i don't know i'm saying some long lines of peach or apple that's what i'm going with tanner okay i think you're you pretty much nailed it for yours ours are two are actually different flavors you pretty much nailed it for yours. Ours are two are actually different flavors.

Clearly Canadian. Yep. Orchard peach. Yeah. So you're right on the peach. Mine's actually country raspberry. Two different flavors. Sparkling water beverage. And this is imported from Canada.

Oh, it is imported, huh? It doesn't just say clearly Canadian on it. Smuggled this one across the border. This is from a Canadian follower of ours. It's not just a clever name. And not just from a Canadian follower. If you've been keeping up with the other presidential election, the president of Ontario election.

That one's been pretty heated lately yeah this is from big alex who is very cool in in and also this isn't all so this is almost like a two-week uh two-week segment this is part one next week we'll have to have part two really what's in the can oh what's in the canadian can yeah all right so i think i figured out why i'm getting this tartness there's sugar in this thing there is sugar 25 grams of sugar that's where the tartness is coming from there i was actually wondering when i just took a drink of it i was like my god that is sweet yeah this is way more flavor way more flavor than what we're used to here in the states tanner because mine is uh country raspberry. It's extreme. I mean, it tastes really good.

I'm like, this isn't like your average LaCroix flavoring. I actually, peach is one of my favorite flavors for stuff like this. There's not a peach LaCroix though, is there? I don't know. And that seems like such a weird flavor for there to not be one of. It is weird though, how they market this, that this has 25 grams of sugar in it, but it's sparkling water, brett beverage,

all natural ingredients. And like, it just has the look of a sparkling water, but it is pure cane sugar. None of that process. Right. Right. But doesn't this look like it's selling to you?

It seems like it's just water. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. It, mine is very tasty. Mine is too. I'd give that a, that uh i'm gonna give it i would give it four and a half but since it has sugar it's getting too much of a boost so i'm gonna have

to bring it down to four it gets handicapped yeah the sugar is cheating and also just me personally i wouldn't be this if i want like if i'm gonna give myself 25 grams of sugar be this if i want like if i'm gonna give myself 25 grams of sugar like i'm hoping to get more out of it than this uh just that yeah this 11 ounces of water it is really good though so that's why i'm giving it four jd power associates a solid four there's no halves in there that's a solid four yeah i went with the raspberry you got the peach which one would you have rather had i would pick okay i do like raspberry too but peaches although the raspberry wouldn't one uh wouldn't have exploded all over i wouldn't be wearing it right now like i'm with the peach one yeah it's all good so that's from big alex of ontario what's first for our first international what's in the can from ontario with love yep very cool tanner there is uh i've seen a rumor about a new documentary

possibly coming out yeah i didn't know anything about that but i'm curious you just saw my note that said new documentary yeah and i was like you didn't connect the dots and what that could possibly be no i didn't know what the doc was it was it a massonomics inspired not quite yet i think that one's still in the works that we're still in the negotiating phase of that one but supposedly stone cold steve austin will be the subject of a new documentary from the producers of the acclaimed last dance series oh so that could be pretty cool when i heard yeah because stone cold like yeah stone cold will be cool in a documentary no matter what but if it's going to have the level and polish of the last dance series then it's going to be really cool yeah so i don't know how much of that team is involved if it's just producer producer is the most confusing word

to me in the in the movie business right i't understand, is producer purely like the people that put the money into it? Sometimes producers are also people that work on it too, but I don't know if that just means it's the people that finance that whole project. Or if it's also some of the people that worked on it too. That does make me tend to believe though that it's going to be like the quality of The Last Dance. that it's going to be like the quality of that would be like if they had a last dance documentary that's like dissecting the wwf f attitude era yeah that would be pretty sweet that would be that'd be really cool i wonder how far along it is like if we're going to be we watching this in six months or like in three years that's a good question well I do have the article here. I guess I could do a little more research.

It sounds like it could be arriving in 2021, it says right here. I suppose it depends, though, with everything going on. It probably does. That's a pretty major asterisk. Yeah. 2021 asterisk depends, though, with everything going on. Yeah. That would be a cool one, though.

I would be very excited to see that. Yeah. Okay. Now that we have our entertainment news knocked out, we can talk World's Strongest Man. Oh, yes. So this was on our full slate of topics last week. But we had too much stuff.

We just had too much stuff. We had to table it to this week. luckily though we left some time so we can we can really really get into this so first of all world's strongest man 2020 in bradenton florida bradenton florida they are no stranger to the world's strongest man competition that's where it was last year and i think there's like no spectators this year maybe so that was the first thing i was gonna say is it is uh november 11th through the 15th 2020 bradenton florida no spectators this year so it's in one week damn yeah starting in one week i just can't get my head around that november we are in november like in my mind thinking, yeah, that's like at least a month away.

Like it's the fall. November's a ways away. No, that's in one week. Wow. Yeah. You know, the whole weather thing with like eight inches of snow we got and now the 70 degree weather, it's totally messed my brain up for where we're at. Yeah, it's La Nina, El Nino.

Farmer stuff. Yeah. But the, was this the name of it last year the spd world's strongest man i don't i don't think so i think the spd thing's new even though they've kind of been i feel like a high level sponsor i don't remember their name being in it no it's usually it's something that's like what is that commerce like like the or what was the one not tai chi but it was something like that it was like a hotel right right sponsor like i can't imagine this is getting them a lot of publicity right um okay yeah they're not going to allow in-person attendance

uh okay who's competing let's look at the roster tanner Let's look at the roster, Tanner. Let's look at the roster. So it'd be a 25-man roster. Yep. Five heats of five. And God, I'm going to just murder so many of these names. I think you... Do you know who that first one is? That Maxime...

Boudreaux. Yeah. Canadian guy. Yep. J.F. Caron. Canadian guy. Irvine Toots from Estonia. Toots. Yeah. Luke Richardson. Oh, Carone. Canadian guy. Irvine Toots from Estonia. Toots.

Yeah. Luke Richardson. Oh, the future. The future. The future is now. The present, yeah. He's here. I am actually curious to see how he's going to do this.

Yeah. Because he's very young too, isn't he? Yeah, he is. Like 23 or 24 maybe? Yeah, and I want to see if he can become the gift of the present. That would make me happy. Adam Bishop, Mark Felix, Graham Hicks. UK, UK, UK.

Terry Hollins, Luke Stoltman, Tom Stoltman. Yeah, very strong representation from the UK there. I think there's an issue this year with people, what countries people can even get here from. So I think that's pretty heavy uk and usa there's a pretty strong america lineup yeah but uh constantine genashia georgia yeah i don't pa or dwyer from ireland you ever heard of that him yeah yeah i have i don't know that name i don't know who it is very well but i have heard that a few times and at the very top of my screen do you know what that name is i've never seen that one no uh latvia ivars

something yeah i don't know how to say it uh matthias kilikowski we'll hold off on that one for now uh mikhail shimlikov martin forsmark i don't know who he is either uh oleski novikov yeah that's yeah no no uh kevin fares from the usa do you know is that how you say is it ferris maybe it's ferris yeah it's ferris maybe robert oberst bobby thompson trey mitchell evan singleton jerry pritchett brian shaw and gabriel pena from mexico rounds out Gabriel Pena actually from Texas. That's what I thought. Okay. Claiming Mexico as country of, you know, I think he's Mexican.

Yeah. That doesn't make sense. I was thinking, oh, that's a different guy. I honestly think that's probably a world's strongest man thing. Getting someone as a different country. Yeah. Right. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. someone as a different country. Yeah, right. Yeah. So the big one, right away looking at that lineup, okay, there's a lot of people there,

but there's a few big holes in it compared to previous years, those being Thor. Never heard of her. Yeah. Martins. Yeah, last year's winner, champ. And now, as of about a week ago matthias is actually out now too he had said oh come on instagram why you gotta play me like this uh matthias

so he said that some bad news this Unfortunately, I will not compete in this year's World's Strongest Man during the last stretch of the triceps, which had been a problem for me since the previous operation. Okay, the English on this is very good. Planned retreatment after the competition and everything was corrected, but it got complicated too fast. He was on painkillers, yada, yada problems um so he won't be competing yeah he said in fact i think i just gave someone a great gift first place did he say that yeah and i do think he

would have been the odds on favorite yeah and be hard to say that he wouldn't be so and you said thor martinez and matthias were was that the top three lat from last year like was that the full podium i don't know if it was the last three years right right hasn't it really basically been those three i would think so i don't know thor was winning it for what two or three whether it was maybe brian was in there and a couple of them but he brian shaw i don't think he's made the podium in the last two years i don't probably even the last three years um so now the door seems to be wide open for brian shaw brian is the only one in the field with that has won it before and he would be of course going for one for the thumb

going for that number five yeah he's one of the only people i think on this list even to even podium i think i think terry holland's got third one year oh okay that's been a long time though um i don't know if there's any i mean there's uh certainly some other people in there that have a real good yeah and there are a lot of guys that are ram hicks did the did big dogs this last year and did a huge yes there's definitely guys in here that are on the up and up like yeah there is some yeah very strong people coming up here but yeah i don't think you could say that there's a clear favorite looking at this list no so i mean we really need to make predictions we usually do predictions we usually do and we're usually get at least two or three right yeah pretty much this

is the hardest year though though, isn't it? It is really hard. Since we've started doing this. And Mateus also, he says, I keep my fingers crossed for my friend JF Caron. I believe you will succeed. JF, huh? Oh, boy.

Who's the one? Is it Luke Stoltman that just that keeps breaking the stone record that is Tom Tom but I can't keep them so Tom is the younger bigger brother and there's a lot of talk about Tom that Tom is Luke Richardson is called the future but a lot of people I hear more and more that Tom that's what I was gonna say because he is so big right so dominant right when you see him do that stuff. Luke is quite a bit older and smaller, but Luke does still beat him sometimes.

They're both solid. I could see Tom possibly making the podium. I don't really know what the rest of his package is, Tanner. Depends on the package you bring on. It's all about the package. This reminds me of when we analyzed the bodybuilding competitions with the nicknames and the you know that's all about the package this reminds me of our when we analyzed like uh

the bodybuilding competitions like with the nicknames and the talking about the package americans will there be an american on the podium i i just keep thinking brian shaw's too old and too slow to make it i just keep thinking Brian Shaw's too old and too slow to make it. I just keep thinking that. Like when I see guys like Luke Richardson and Tom Stoltman, I'm just like, well, they're just going to run around him in circles. Right, right. Like he might be just as strong as those guys, but there is the moving component to that.

That's where he's going to get, where he's going to lose on them. And that Novikov is really strong too, though, isn't he? Yeah, he like has had some setbacks i think like he was really a big up-and-comer and then i think he did like 30 competitions in a year like i'm not even exaggerating a video not that long ago of him deadlifting like 890 for reps or something like that or 900 that could be like i thought he had some stupid deadlift video but boy i'm just gonna really go out on a total guess here just because I'm not going to make this any better. I'll say top three.

Are we just going to say the podium, Tanner? Are we going to say top three? Or are we going to put a place to him, actually? We could put a place just because it gives us more to. This is by far the hardest year. Yeah. This is by far the hardest year. Yeah.

I guess I'll say Tom Stoltman won. Luke Richardson third. uh luke richardson third and second place will say i kind of want an american to be on the podium somewhere there tanner yep boy i don't know i really don't know. I really don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Who are you picking? Can I?

Yeah, look at the list. That'll make it easier for you. I am, for sure, I know that I think Tom Stoltman will be on the podium. And then I am going to say that Brian is going to make it. Brian has burned me on like every time I've ever picked because I always pick him and he never does it. He's always burned you on this side. But I'm going to say Brian Shaw is going to win this year,

his fifth one. I'm going to ride this into the dirt. I don't think he's going to. I think he will. He's either going to get hurt during a deadlift event or yeah i've been watching his youtube videos and he's got me sold again this year you're drinking the kool-aid yep he's got me in again but i'm back on shaw uh so i'm gonna say if shaw's gonna win and would you say you're bullish on shop? I'm, I'm, I am very bullish.

I'm buying Shaw. I bought him every year. It's just like, I'm going to keep throwing good money after bad. Yeah. So I'm going to take Shaw and then I am going to go with, I'd like to just pick like Terry Hollins and other old people that probably won't make the finals.

I would like it if Jerry Pritchett did good, but I'm not going to pick him. I'm going to go with both of the Stoltmans. So I'm going to go Shaw 1, and then I'm going to say Tom Stoltman 2 and Luke Stoltman 3. Okay, well, I'm going to stick to... Wait, what did I say? I say Tom Stoltman two and Luke Stoltman three. Okay. Well, I'm going to stick.

Wait, what did I say? I said Tom Stoltman two. I'm going to switch that. I'm going to go the older or experienced, smaller Stoltman in second and Tom Stoltman in third. But a lot of people are really bullish on Tom Stoltman that he's like going to be Thor. I'm going to say,

I'll say he's first for now. I'll, I'll, I'll go Luke Richardson second, and I'll say I got to get an American in there. I guess I'll say Brian Shaw third. There we have it. And I hope you didn't burn me here. So you have the future in. I do have the future in.

I would like to see the future. I'm curious to see how he does. I am too. He's really strong and he can move. And he's big. And he's young. Yeah. So there we have it.

We pretty much etched it in stone. Expert commentary on the upcoming World's Strongest Man. That's probably more marketing than anyone's done around the world's strongest man. Yep. Should we do some ads? I don't know why we wouldn't. You thought I'd never ask. Got to keep these lights on somehow.

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so you know anyways at this point you know just cause you're uh it is Big Tim of Go Strong Equipment founder owner main man of Go Strong should we try them up let's do it here we go voice call that's what we want hello hey is this big tim yeah this is big tim all right big tim you're uh live here with tanner and tommy on the massonomics podcast we're excited to have you on this week i'm excited to be here

how are you guys we're doing great we're you hear me yeah yep. Loud and clear. We're hearing you all the way from southeast Iowa, right? Eastern Iowa. Eastern Iowa. Okay. Okay. We're only really a state apart, but yet we're actually like 10 hours apart, aren't we? Yeah. For me to drive to South Dakota from here is like three days.

We were surprised, though, when we drove to the Arnold two years ago. It's like, God, by the time you go across Iowa, that takes some time, actually. Yeah, it's actually quite a ways from here. I remember I had to pick up a dog a few years ago, clear up in the corner of Iowa. It was like five and a half hours drive to get there. Yeah. It's surprising. Probably the coolest, most exciting thing we got to talk to you about first is we got the new combo rack in Massanomics Gym.

And boy, does it look sweet. That's a pretty sweet looking rig. that thing is like a work of art it's uh it's the the level you've probably heard this a thousand times now but the level of detail is just it's astonishing it really is it's yeah thank you that one we were pretty proud of that one i mean the color and you know we knew we had to make it really cool for you guys all the money you were spending you know because of the lift shorts and everything that's exactly right it didn't get worth it so yeah it really turned out good one of our favorites for sure yeah and i i did mention to you this too and you told me it's okay go ahead and use it but it is at first it's like almost don't want to use it and be like a like

you just you just got a your classic car redone and it's like fresh paint and it's like i'm afraid to touch it now because like i don't want to scratch on it but i suppose it's inevitable and it is made to be used so i think my response was use the fuck out of it. That's exactly right. So it has gotten used quite a bit. Actually, you can't keep people off of it in the gym now because – I was going to say, I haven't actually got to use it yet because every time I go down there, someone is like deep in the middle of the set.

So I was like, oh, maybe next time. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's what we want. Yeah, what was the, cause the, the white was, so it was like a, a metallic red.

And then the white is like a glow in the dark white. Correct. Yeah. That was a, that was a new wrinkle that our powder coater, we didn't even know that they could do that. They're like, you know,

can we try it on something? And we're like, yeah, we got the perfect thing to try that. Yeah. Yeah. And when Tanner, when Tanner first said glow inin-the-dark, I was like, what? Glow-in-the-dark paint is actually a thing? I didn't know that was an option.

I mean, it's pretty completely fucking useless. But it's cool as hell. Just wait, you mean you don't lift in the dark? Well, I guess I haven't tried. Maybe that's a new thing. Completely useless, but still kind of cool. F fits in pretty good with massonomics in general so that works out all right sure uh so so go strong equipment would you tell us a little bit about how that started because we we know that you also operate a you know you you had this large metal fabrication business

before go strong started i think like just explain it a little bit i i stopped talking about something i don't know and let you tell us the story okay so i my whole career i've spent working at a company in iowa called new machinery that is a, we've got a metal fabrication shop and we do work in the ag industry. Surprise, we're in Iowa and we're in the ag industry. But we build conveyors for food processors and pet food processors and stuff like that. Stuff that runs 24 hours a day, seven days a week. like that stuff that runs 24 hours a day seven days a week i mean and it has to be super heavy duty because they're any breakdowns cause cost them huge amounts of money so everything we build is kind of overbuilt and but it has to be um but i i my one of my hobbies has always been lifting.

Ever since I didn't lift in high school, but as soon as I started freshman year of college, I started lifting. And pretty much lifted all the way through. And I guess I've worked there since the summers of 1991, so a long time, almost 30 years now. And I would just see equipment that I would look at and just be like, man, we could do this so much better. We could make this so much nicer. You know, this is kind of shoddy workmanship or whatever i'm not saying that across the board with all these companies don't get me wrong there's some companies that make some awesome stuff but some of the stuff in our gym you know is a little older from companies that you know we're a little cheaper.

The gym that I go to is called the Anvil Gym. The owner of the gym at the time was Ken McClelland. I talked him into, after a while, because I had never built a bench before or anything like that, but I had used a ton of them and I competed and stuff. So I'm like, let me build you a bench. Like, just let me go crazy and build you a benching on and stuff. And we just that's what we built. I was a bench guy.

We wanted a bench that, or I wanted a bench in particular that returned the bar to me that I could position the bar how I wanted it because our bench would it had like these huge mw flat spots on the hooks like most of them and they get grooves grooves in them from

you know when when people rack and so you're always every time you lay down on the bench you gotta roll the bar towards you and you know if there's a lot of weight on there you gotta have people help you center it etc and so i came up with the rollers just to solve a problem never intended on going starting up go strong and i guess kind of when it was bench delivery day people just went ape shit um and people they're like oh these are brilliant you know you should patent these and like i don't know what you're talking about i don't know how to patent things or you know we we built the same thing for 100 years straight in conveyors you know that's a grain conveyors are an industry where technology does not advance very quickly

familiar so we didn't have any patents or anything like that and so i called just just for i guess kind of the heck of it um i called a found a patent attorney and got a patent. And that just kind of basically gave me the balls to start up. Just go strong as a division of Newell. And now it's just this crazy ride that I work 24-7 to try to keep up with. So when did Go Strong like officially launch then? April 17th 2019. Okay.

Really? That doesn't make, I would have thought it would have had to have been longer ago. Yeah, I was going to say if like when I remember you guys first popping up on my radar, I would have said nah, like a year or so ago. So I just would have assumed that meant you were around for a few more years before that because it seems like everyone's around for a few years before you start popping up.

But wow, that's really impressive. Now, we had plans and things to start up four or five months ahead of time. Um, as we were, we were building the line, um, we got super lucky in our startup and got hybrid performance method online. So the day we delivered to hybrid performance method was the day that our website went live. we delivered to hybrid performance method was the day that our website went live right and that's the day that i consider that we started up right because that was a that was a surreal time yeah i was nervous as shit well and i remember that post too of them yeah yeah they were because that was that was that timed up with their new gym too at the time, didn't it?

Yes, exactly. Yeah. And so I remember them like, oh yeah, we have this all new gym and like check out these new benches. And it was, it was really impressive to see at that time. Yeah, it was, I mean, that's a show place. So that was really cool to do. So meeting all those guys and you know, who doesn't want to meet Steffi Cohen?

So it was cool. So as the growth in this, you know, year and a half, basically, that we're at or however much it is, has it outpaced what you would have expected when you would have launched? Or, I mean, is it about what you've expected so far? No, it's outpaced it. You never know how much all this COVID shit has changed the world because, you know, we were running along pretty good. You know, we have a small crew and then COVID hit. And then all of a sudden, you know, like everybody else in the fitness industry, we can't keep up, and we still can't keep up.

So the lead times went from like six weeks to 16 weeks, and it's just been nuts. So what does that look like? Because anyone that's a consumer, they see every single company that you buy from, the lead times are like that. That's not a go-strong thing. That's an everyone thing right now.

So what's the... If you doubled your staff, can you be faster? Or is it a materials issue for companies like you that are making the equipment? What's the biggest bottleneck right now? And when do you see that sort of thing will change? For us, the bottleneck is, I guess, twofold, space and people. We've definitely added people.

We've definitely added people, but we're not rogue who can just throw on 125,000 square foot to our factory and add 12 lasers. We're a small family business, and we just can't grow that fast. I mean, we have to be careful. We can't run ourselves out of business being stupid. And then there are some material issues. Things are getting better. But we have instances where, especially in the spring, where good companies where we get different materials from were just shut down.

I mean, they're just closed for six, eight, 12 weeks and you're screwed. So you have to try to find alternative vendors or whatever. So that hurts. Things are getting better and now it's just kind of our own limitations. We only have so much space.

Our other side of our business, which is far bigger, needs space too. We can't just overrun that how how how much has it grown in comparison to the you know the core of your business or the you know the long-standing part the grain elevator conveyors has go strong you know is it like you said it is probably kind of fighting for space now or or are there people that work on the grain conveyors that at first were like ah who cares about this gym equipment stuff like that's just a little hobby but now it really has grown into this significant business uh you know i suppose there's just a lot of give

and take between the two well there's there's certainly back in what would have been like january 1st 2017 when i and now or 2017, when I announced to the rest of the company that we're going to do this Go Strong thing. And I'm sure there were a lot of people that looked at me as the president of the company thinking, what the fuck is this guy? Right, right. Yeah. We get it for sure you like the gym yeah yeah right wait we're building fitness equipment right um but as it's as you know like anything else as time has went on and it has i guess they've seen this success they've

seen the cool stuff they built or that we build. People want to be a part of that. I mean, people, our shop guys, you know, they like helping with this kind of stuff. It's cool for them to, you know, would you rather work on a corn conveyor or a bench that glows in the dark. Yes. That has the most perfect metal flake.

A lot of these guys have worked there for 20, 30 years. They're real craftsmen. They see what we're doing as just a lot cooler than the corn could bear. It is a lot cooler. So it's fun.

I can't remember if you asked me a question in there. I totally forgot it. No, I don't remember either, but that was a good answer. Partially, it's like 9.15 at night, right after daylight savings time, on the day after an election, and I got, I believe, Max. Like, who the hell records a podcast at this time? We fit them in whenever we can. We're going on 240

straight weeks, so we got to do whatever we can not to miss our streak here. That's pretty impressive. So you mentioned the return rollers and us getting the rack is actually the first time I've used those and I said it to someone else

at the gym after using it. I'm like, oh, I get that now. I get like why that is as cool as it is and why people want that so bad and why the J-Cups are as big of a deal. And so that's what I wondered, like what product that you make is the most popular. I know the J-Cups are a big deal. The J-Cups with the return roller, did that turn into your biggest product or is it like the benches or combo racks the well the j cups are are definitely by quantity our best seller by far i mean we got we got people that we i mean we make j cups literally by the hundreds

and you know every single morning we got j cups shipped out so that's a that's a big business um beyond that our combo racks are are our best sellers specifically the model that you guys have the combo rack hd yep um because it's you know it's kind of like the Cadillac of the line. It's the most badass. It's the most badass, right? It's customizable where other combo rack is not near as customizable. So those two things by far are the most popular. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. That's kind of what i

figured it makes sense would be the case there the other thing i wanted to ask you about so we have the combo rack now and i can say it is the nice i can't imagine that there i'm confident in saying it is the nicest quality combo rack that money could buy yeah without yeah i mean i don't even really think that that's arguable at this point i don't think so either right so and it is probably uh with the out of like the most common brands that people are purchasing from it's probably the most expensive brand uh combo rack but i understand why. You're buying the highest quality, the most customization. It literally does end up being like a piece of artwork. How often do you get asked about prices

though and have to explain that sort of thing to people? Oh, like four times a day. And that's why I ask because I assume that that comes up a lot. So how do you explain that? That's why I asked, because I assume that that comes up a lot. So how do you explain that? What do you usually tell people? Well, I think Tom Callis, I guess, an S10 pickup and go to the grocery store and, you know, 2020 Ford F-250 King Ranch Edition with, you know, leather and air conditioning seats and a sunroof. And they both get to the grocery store. It just depends on what you want, how you want to get there.

Right. We, we're just not in a position to, nor do we want to compete with, you know, the companies that are, I guess, in an area that they have super low labor costs or they're importing some of their stuff. All of our products at this point are made in America. So we just, we know we're a very small niche in a niche industry, really. But we just want to build stuff that's as nice and as high of quality as we can build it and they're you know we didn't know if this market was there to be honest with you but but it is you know there's people out there that thank god don't just want you know we don't try to make things we don't try to make a bench that's $50,000 or whatever.

Right. We just go at it as we want to build the nicest bench that we can build and, you know, sort of let the cost be where it may. And, you know, sort of let the costs be where it may. Not like we're, you know, selecting the most expensive materials just because they're expensive. We're just trying to collect the best stuff for the job. And, you know, if people want to buy it, that's awesome. And if they don't, you know, I get it. You know, I can't, I don't have any lift shorts. You and everyone else.

Everyone's got to have priorities. I mean, yeah, you're preaching to the choir. With lift shorts, we get it to the max on that. Yeah, I mean, you guys totally understand. We wrote the book on this exactly i just we just wanted to hear someone else say it too i mean i hope after a few more years it goes like i can get a pair everyone should have goals that's good good. You're saying that. We're trying. So you guys have, no doubt, some amazing products, and we've been thoroughly impressed.

Is there anything in the Ghost pipeline? Is there stuff coming out in the future? Are you guys working on anything behind the scenes, or is that top secret? It's pretty top secret. Yes, we are working on stuff. Stuff that people have asked for, stuff that people haven't asked for. Some things that, I don't know, people may or may not think we would ever come out with. But we've definitely got stuff in the pipeline.

would ever come out with but we've definitely got stuff in the pipeline and that that's been honestly this summer that's been hard to do prototyping and development because you just get so busy with the day-to-day like we gotta get this guy's bench out or you know this person wants a mono or whatever and it's just been so run and gun but we're we're carving out little bits of time to work on stuff and we definitely have stuff coming so well i am excited to see whatever that might be yeah yeah for sure yeah i've got it oh go ahead i just said us too i'm excited i've got a couple random thoughts one you made a mono for thor right yeah we did what i just wondered what was it like getting that ship to iceland well we're we're not good at this overseas shipping thing. For him, we did it because it's a pain in the ass. I imagine it would be.

I mean, it's enormous and heavy. Yeah, I mean, everything about his mono was enormous and heavy. Right. We had to make his mono, you know only is it does it look really cool but we had to make it you know taller than everyone else's mono because he's like whatever six nine four hundred and fifty pounds and yeah you had to you know create it for ocean freight for Ocean, for Aiden. I think it took 45 days to get to his gym. So, you know,

knowing that we had pictures of all this, we couldn't tell anybody. And it was pretty cool. Just the first time he contacted us was cool. Like, hey, this is super cool. Like, hey, this is super formal. Like, hey, this is Hafthor Bjornsson, and I'm a strong man.

You're like, yeah, we know. Oh, shit. Hey, what's up, buddy? Yeah. But yeah, that was a cool experience and then the luck out when he did that thing on espn he was taking that's between sets like right next to our mom yeah that was cool that's where it pays off i couldn't have you, if I was running the TV crew, I couldn't have picked a better spot for him. Right. And then the other thing about shipping and packaging, you know, so we just got ours and it comes in the crate from Indiana Jones is what the combo comes in and, uh, you know, as excited as I was about the combo rack and getting that set up,

that's equally as how excited my dad was about utilizing that crate after it was empty and, uh, being able to put stuff in it. And it, you know, it's perfectly on the palette and he was pretty pumped about how nice that crate was and the years of use he was going

to be able to continue to get out of that so tan are you trying to say they should look into the crate business too yes yes but what is he using it for i'm curious um he's he's got uh different like collects john deere tractors and stuff like that and uh use just you i think maybe using it for like tractor weights and different stuff like that but just the fact using it for tractor weights and different stuff like that. But just the fact that it's on the pallet and it's got the lid right on it and you can seal it back up is just extremely excited about that.

I asked because we have customers like there's a former WWE wrestler, Sarah Rowe and her husband Raymond. They used one of their crates or maybe put a couple of crates together or something for like a chicken brooder. Okay. People have like repurposed them for strong man stone platform. Yeah. Well, they used reused

pretty often. Right. And I mean, I was kind of joking about that but legitimately your packaging is i've never seen anything like that before someone asked me like the when the combo came it sat in my garage for like a couple days and i hadn't popped it open yet and someone asked me well why haven't you checked it out yet to see what it's like i'm like opening this isn't like getting a barbell in the mail and you just like pop open. I'm like, it's going to take me a while just to get this thing unpacked. It's not a simple experience. But you have to spend significant amounts on just shipping materials. That has to go into the pricing of the product.

I mean, it's legit. We do. like the pricing of the product i mean it it's legit we do but you know people are buying people have an expectation when they get something from us that it's like super nice so we can't just shit we we tried we tried this kind of stuff at first and you know you like everyone else does you put stuff on a pallet and you wrap it up and then you're you know your local driver from yellow freight or whatever rams a free port into it or drives it into a pole or whatever and the stuff gets there and it's got gouges on it or and people are pissed and then you're trying

you know get it back or help them refinish something or so we just and we we started building crates ourself and we were we're not you know super great at carpentry i mean we could build a we can build a crate but the crate ends up costing you like a thousand dollars. Right. So we found this company that builds crates, you know, good crates pretty reasonably. And we just kind of went with that.

And not saying we'll always go with that. We're always looking for ways to improve our shipping, but it works pretty good to get stuff there with minimal damage. Yeah, and I do think it does add to part of the experience. I think you're exactly right what you say when you buy something like that. It is a little bit like an experience, and when you get it in a giant crate that has the big Ghostrong logo on it, I mean, sure, it is just the packaging, but it is part of the cool ghost rung logo on it i mean sure it is just the

packaging but it is part of the cool experience too like i do think it adds in it yeah i mean well it's like you know say if you went and like bought a new corvette or something right you sure as hell don't want the corvette to come with a big scratch on the fender right stuff to get there and yeah the crates have kind of taken on a life of their own like people people like to show off their crates and post them on their stories and stuff like that so it's cool i do imagine the ghost strong facility is like the indiana jones scene where they have the the arc at the end and they put it in with all... You realize there's like a thousand of them in there. Spoiler alert, Tanner.

Oh yeah, for anyone that hasn't seen Indiana Jones yet. I'll just let you pretend it's that special. Yeah. You talked about your lifting too and I think definitely we'd be sad if we didn't at least bring it up here. I don't know know that people know this but you're actually really strong too

well i i've tried to be over over times of the past um i was never uh you know people talk about elite totals and stuff like that. I was never that. But I got pretty strong. I'm a big guy, though, too. But I benched 500. And deadlifted pretty close to 700. Squatted over 700. But I'm also 47 now. And all that's seeming to go to hell something about that i had to have hip surgery last summer that i hurt myself squatting toward

labrum you know shoulder problems as of recent so i've retired from competing um so now i just live vicariously through you know like everyone just through through my friends and through instagram hey that's what we do i just try to not hurt myself not push it quite as hard we figured we could never be that as strong as some people. So we'll just do this podcast thing for like five years and then get to hang out with them and be the closest thing. Yeah. Those who can't talk.

Right. Yes. That's exactly right. Yeah. I was a two 75 or three Oh eight guy, depending on how fat I was or not fat at the time. Did you, did you lift equipped at one point in time then?

No, I was legit raw. Our federation around here in eastern Iowa is the UPA. It's like what the Lillibridges and stuff. Yeah, exactly. Bill Carpenter, he's a great guy. Runs it and puts on awesome meets. And we were a mono federation, so it's mono and comp bench. So we didn't even have combos. I didn't even know. I'd never worked out on a combo before.

So that was quite an education. Do you like to use them now? We still don't have one in my gym okay we're going we're going to you know i i've used them but we don't have one in our gym well you know what they say never get high in your own supplies yeah we uh i recently bought my local gym um because it's it's our i'm secretly trying to be like massonomics good luck but actually make a like a working ghost strong showroom okay cool that'd be really cool so is that the anvil then what is that the yes okay yes it is so what are you going to do

with all the non-ghost equipment that you have in there then well we're going to expand it so some of it will stay some of it will if it gets replaced by ghost stuff we'll just sell the the other stuff yeah everything works fine but we we do want to have that go strong showroom so somebody comes to town we don't have anything ever set up in our shop like here here look at this complete bench right like the day it gets finished the day it goes in a crate and ships out so the the anvil is only half a mile from our shop so i can just buzz somebody over there you know they can work out or you can show them this or that or you can film content there and stuff like that so that's pretty exciting right now that's that's a pretty cool cool adventure we're

doing on the side so awesome tim are you familiar at all with our overrated underrated game i am yeah oh excellent but i would get to do this oh yes we've got some special uh big tim go strong topics for you here so if you already know i won't bore you on the rules too much, but we've got a series of them and you have to decide overrated, underrated. You don't get to ride the line but you get to elaborate as much as you want to or don't want to on the answers. Okay. So

topic number... Yeah, this is the most important part of the show. This is where everyone tunes in for right here. Everything else is a warm-up for this for sure. Excellent. I'm ready. Okay.

Topic number one, overrated or, or underrated the Iowa state fair. Oh man, I'm going to have to, yeah, you know, I've never,

I've lived in Iowa my entire life for 47 years and I've never been to the Iowa State Fair. Really? It is the largest state fair from what we understand. Is it really? Yeah. I'm going to say, I don't know, I'm going to say it's, people on here probably kill me, but I'm going to say it's probably overrated because I've never had a big urge to go eat a deep fried stick of butter. Yeah, that one always surprises me. What city is it actually in?

It's in Des Moines. So it's only like two hours from here but I don't know it's always every time they have the fair like Iowa Iowa is a place that has like seasons so we have

it's 105 in the summer it's 30 below in the winter and every time they have the fair it's 105 with in the winter and every time they have the fair, it's 105 with 98% humidity for that time and I'm just like, who the fuck wants to

go walk around the fairgrounds and act in with all those people. Or with cows and stuff. So we'll be expecting the 2021 Iowa State Fair Go Strong equipment booth at the expo then? Exactly. I'll have to go there now.

Okay, topic number two, overrated or underrated, stick welding. I would say it's underrated. There's just places that you can't, that that's your only option. I would say it's underrated. There's just places that you can't, that that's your only option. So, I mean, my field guys would kill me if I said it was overrated because it's necessary.

So all of y'all out there that don't think it's, stick welding's where it's at. I mean, we don't use it building these benches and stuff, but there's a time and a place for it. So because the stick welding kind of. Is it becoming more of like a lost art? Yeah, that's what I yeah, that's what I wonder. And yeah, something like that in. In manufacturing and stuff like that, yes, it is.

But we've got a big construction side to our company. So we must own 50 gas-powered welders that do stick welding every single day. So it's still a big thing in construction. Okay. So you said underrated. Underrated. Okay. Underrated. All right. The next topic, you probably know, already know Iowa is the largest producer of corn in the country. Also the largest producer of pork in the country. So overrated or underrated pork.

Pork is totally underrated. I mean, that's, that's just a no brainer to me. Like pork's awesome. I mean, bacon, bacon,

bacon. It's, it's easy to go to the bake. You know, everyone agrees on the bacon, bacon and ham. So yeah, both of those. Yeah. Those are Bacon. It's, it's easy to go to the bake. You know, everyone agrees on the bacon, bacon and ham. So yeah, both of those.

Yeah. Those are the, I mean, and another pork, you know, pork loin, pork shoulder, pulled pork,

like pigs are great. Totally underrated. Okay. Underrated. It is the other white meat Tanner. That's true. I don't do, I don't know. They really do those. I don't think they do. I think they kind of got away from that. Yeah is the other white meat, Tanner. That's true. I don't know if they really do those ads anymore.

I think they kind of got away from that. Actually, I couldn't tell you the last time I saw an ad for pork either, though. Right. I remember when I was a little kid, I'd go to my grandma's or something, and she'd cook, you know, God bless her, but she'd cook the pork till it was like fucking done. Yeah. She went on shoe leather and then my parents would, they thought the same thing and they would actually cook it right. And it works damn good if you, if you know how to cook it. So super underrated pork. Okay. All topic then and as we were tommy and i

were thinking of topics we were thinking about what the ghost rung equipment shop is probably like you know it's a family-run business and you do metal fabricating and all that work there and we pictured it was probably quite a bit like the tuttle family so overrated or underrated Orange County Choppers? I'm going to have to say overrated. They're not even in business. There's bankruptcies and fights.

Is there bankruptcies? I don't even know what's happened to them in the last 20 years hardly. I just assume they're still in a room yelling at each other right now they probably are but you know i think of that show a lot though with ghost because so overrated is my answer but i think about that show a lot with ghosts because some of the stuff that we're asked to do as far as customization you know i just had a conversation today about building a firefighter bench. I remember watching the episode where...

Yeah, didn't they have a firefighter bike on one? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somehow there was an axe handle on it. Yeah. Sometimes we get into some crazy stuff like that. So it was kind of, you know, brings back memories of what would, what would Paul and Paul Jr. So, so are you saying go strong as kind of maybe like a mix of orange County

choppers and like pimp my ride a little bit? Is that in a lot of ways yeah that's what the people want to do and and we're willing to try like anything you know i i tell people are like well what can you do for customization i'm like if you want to put a rotating you know sculpture of your mom's head top of the mall like we will try to do that for you yeah it's gonna cost you but we'll we'll give her a shot for the right price anything can be done yeah yeah i do still picture there's uh somewhere taking a a frame or a video of something from orange county choppers and turning it into a ghost strong equipment meme so stay on the lookout for that the day that we get one of those versus memes i was actually as i said that out loud i was just thinking that that this episode

will come out next week and i was just thinking there needs to be a Ghost Strong versus. So that might be the number one project for next week. The funny thing is like Orange County Choppers, there was Paul Jr. and Paul Sr. Well, at Ghost or New Old Machinery, there's Tim Jr., which is me,

and then there's my dad who's pretty out of the company right now. I mean, he's pretty out of the company right now. I mean, he's in his 70s. That's what Paul Jr. would totally say about Paul Sr., too. It's not like we haven't had our dust-ups over together for like 30 years. We've had some times walking down the hallway screaming at each other. Has he ever thrown a chair at you?

No, he hasn't. Well, I think probably only because I outweigh him by 75 to 100 pounds and I'm like five inches taller than he is. Senior looked like he could bench a lot actually too. He did, yeah. Yeah, he did. He always had the collared shirt with no sleeves on it. My dad doesn't quite do that. My dad always has had a mustache though. The handlebars, yeah.

Alright, well that's awesome Tim that that's kind of majority of the stuff we wanted to talk to you about but do be on the lookout for versus the the big thing is who is ghost strong equipment going to take on so that's uh we've got a little brainstorming session to hammer out on that one but so it's like it's like a nickname you can't make up your own nickname that's exactly right that is exactly i can't put us up against so we'll just have to take our chances yep yep so stay on the lookout for that i'm i'm excited all right well we're we're we were really happy to have you on is there anything else that you wanted to get out there that we didn't ask you anything

burning that we should have should have talked to you about no i don't think so i mean you know people can people can email you know i do get flooded with emails and i try to keep up with them all and i'm sure there's somebody out there that is probably like tim fucking never got back to me but our our email address equipment at go strong.com that goes directly to me and i try to answer everybody's email um i'm i'm the one behind the instagram so if you're dm and ghost you're dm and me um but check check out our our gear side too, because we'll never be Massanomics. Well, you can't charge enough. Right.

But we do sell some pretty cool shirts and things like that. We've got a new manager of that, Sarah Furman, who's way cooler than me. So, ghoststronggear.com or at go strong on Instagram for the, for the gear right on. So, yeah, appreciate you guys. Awesome.

Fun following your page and you guys crack me up on the daily. So yeah, it's a Joe Sullivan said it best last week that if nothing else said, at least everyone's final makes you go, huh? At least we deliver at least one more nose laugh. One more nose breath. Yeah.

Like, I guess that's funny. I love the people that are getting offended by your throwaway cups. No matter what. And the beauty of it, like that stuff actually works. We take that stuff and run with it, and people get a kick out of it, and it helps us move merchandise because people are all –

it's like a giant inside joke that everyone gets to be in on. I think I told you guys over DM or something once, you guys are brilliant marketers. I don't know if I would go that far or just some drunk fuckers that's probably closer obnoxious alright Tim we appreciate it

we'll stay in touch and we'll talk to you soon we look forward to see what else you do with Ghost thanks a lot Tim thanks guys big Tim I do really like that Ghost Strong is like Orange County Thanks a lot, Tim. Thanks, guys. See you. See you. Big Tim. I do really like that Go Strong is like Orange County. That's what I really like to think of it like.

I do remember that Fireman episode. Oh, yeah. I remember that one. I don't know if I can tell you. I think everyone listening to this right now is like if i guess you probably have to be almost 30 yeah i don't i suppose because i was younger but if you were like 30 you walk i it was just i want to know someone that didn't watch it yeah because it was first that was i think discovery before they before they oh it was discovery okay i think it was before they went full-on like

well i don't know discovery i i don't think does the reality thing a ton. Okay. Or was it like the History Channel or something? Was it the History Channel? That feels like today a History Channel show, but I don't think it was the History Channel. Because I remember, because first- How do you even spin that as the, I mean, not the-

Well, because I feel like first they did West Coast Choppers, you know? Right. And there was like a few of those, and then it was like okay here's orange county choppers and then that's when it like just went crazy because people had shirts for it like you could buy all the apparel like i not joking like everyone i knew watched that show yeah like even if you didn't care about motorcycles it was just it was like a pop culture almost you know like yeah it is there was this is just a dumb thing i just thought of

this now okay there is a there was a it's not even really a meme it was just a clip like this is an older internet clip of they're at this uh this this television reporter is at like a halloween party yeah and they asked they go up to this kid they go what are you for halloween he's like dressed like a zombie and he goes i like turtles oh yeah so we quote that all the time so i like turtles i think that's so funny i like turtles he likes turtles he's just a huge orange county orange county choppers fan like that kid just loves the tunnels i know that we i say that all that i quote that in our house all the time we always say that i like turtles it's really funny that it's a good clip uh old then would you say old internet clip oh yeah yeah pre-meme right right it is

we need to bring that back uh but that was cool beans right yeah that was uh slacking there we go cool beans yeah 100 cool beans i'm glad we got to get our hands on the rack first. Yeah. Because it just gives us a much better perspective. Because you know it's going to be nice. Everyone says they're nice. But it is one of those things you have to see it to believe it. You really do.

I think you do have to. There is certain things in life that you can't fully appreciate it until it's in front of you. And the Go Strong rack is one of them. You can have everyone on the internet tell you they're amazing. But until you actually see one in person yeah it is hard to really appreciate it and i do think he described well how their ghost strongest positioned it they're not trying to be the cheapest uh like if you want the cheapest like that is certainly an available option and i'm sure they wouldn't discourage you that's an awesome thought to be in a business it's way more fun when you're

competing based on price right then you can start to really do what you want the coolest stuff they want and there is a market yeah that's what everyone who wants to be who wants to compete on things based on price everyone wants to compete on things based off of just being awesome right we wanted a really really super cool looking combo rack that said massonomics on it that looks cool i mean we have an instagram page that's meant to be tanner, how many times has Masanomics been so close to, like, pulling the trigger on various other brands, common racks through the years? Yep.

And then we started talking with Tim, and smart choice we made. It was. Yeah. So that was Cool Beans. What else do we have? Oh, I was going to say the Lift Hard Live Easy competition is well, contest is well underway. we've had a few entries so far we don't really like to talk about the entries too much until we wrap up the contest

and then we kind of go over the winners and everything but there have been a few pretty good ones as the time you're listening this you still have a almost a full week probably yes so make sure you get entered if it's anything like last time, the last few days, people put entries in like crazy. Maybe try to put one in before that if you can. But I'm assuming this weekend, usually after the first weekend, people started to hit it a lot harder too. I think even just-

You know, all the editing people and video work they have to do, it takes a whole weekend to do it. And I would say you don't have to do, like if you're like, I don't really edit videos. You don't have to do, like some people have gone really crazy and made these crazy cool edited ones and they are really cool yeah and if

that's up your alley like i'm not discouraging from doing that but i would say if that's not your thing i still think there's ways to do it oh for sure that don't involve all that that can still could still have actually just as good a chance of taking the cake winning the brand new texas power bar i was thinking we should almost just give away one of our used texas power bars got a new one for the gym we'll buy the new one and give you the used one uh but you will get the new one and then that would be really funny you just yeah like oh this is the bar yeah yeah like here's our old used one like one of ours kind of has like red paint like stuck on it somewhere for some reason well it is a texas power bar but definitely not new like

like i mean it's good it's nice but it's weird that you sent me a used one that would be really funny it would be really anti-climactic yeah as a content the other thing you know we've said the 75 applebee's gift card people are pretty hyped on that i don't know if applebee's makes if we can get a 75 gift card it might you might be the winner of a 50 gift card and a 25 gift card which is almost even better that is yeah so that might be what you get you get what you get okay what you get and you don't throw a fit as i would tell my kids so the contest get in on that we had more people signing up for the supporting memberships and we did have someone take it to the new heights that no one would have thought was actually that we didn't even know were possible he doubled up double platinum

he's grand slam plus a second platinum level. So he called it the pierogi level. Because we were talking pierogis last week. So he went full grand slam plus a second platinum level. Yeah, there's some ballers out there. Getting a little ridiculous at this point. You don't have to do that. I think they call it the millionaire next door. Yeah, right, right.

Keeping up with the Joneses. You don't have to do that. You could just sign up for the Apple the apple pie level yeah if that's 99 cent yeah i don't don't think you have to go full pierogi level you can go you could go apple pie and we would appreciate that a lot too leave us a review do we have a time to read it we've been getting a lot of reviews i wonder if i should read just i got two queued up real quick. Yeah, you better do two then. Okay.

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