Massenomics Podcast - Ep.246: Kinda Fit Kinda Fat

Episode Date: December 21, 2020

We brought our California friends onto the show so we could teach them a little bit about the easy living in Western North East South Dakota! Dean, Alex, and the team at Kinda Fit Kinda Fat have built up a community centered around inclusion and fun… and they have done a damn good job of it. They make some cool stuff, and we get a peak behind their frosting covered curtain. Hybrid Performance Method: https://hybridperformancemethod.com/ and use code MASS to save 5% on all programs Lifting Large: https://www.liftinglarge.com/ and use code MASS20 to save on Lifting Large branded products Spud Inc.: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! side everything massonomics coming to you from western northeast south dakota this is the lifting podcast about nothing we are the massonomics podcast my name is tanner and my name is tommy tommy we were on the noon crew today we were hitting the noon crew today we were hitting the noon crew i like your spelling for that yeah that's how you do new because someone uh hit me up that at talking about massonomics gym someone was bragging to me that they were on the night you know the night crew we're both we're both former night crew members yeah and they were

spelling night crew k-r-e-w and And I said, well, that's all right. Let me take it up a level. I'm dropping two umlauts up in here. Noon, N-U with the umlaut, N, and crew C-R-U with the umlaut. And it works. Yeah. It works. Motley crew has got nothing on us.

What do you always say? The noon crew is always a few hours ahead of us. That's what we coined. You heard it here first. No one else came up with that. The night crew could be like, well, actually, we're doing that ahead of you. It's like, who's ahead of who? Yeah, there's some pretty strong rivalries at Mass Amish Gym with the different crews.

Yeah, you don't want to be alone in front of the other crew you never know what they do to you no i know it's it gets vicious and practically a gang now the noon crew was hitting it pretty hard today though there was a clanging and banging there was a full full noon nooner crew you know it's special when larry's there even i don't call him larry legend for no reason i've post shared a couple of larry videos of larry lifting in the gym on our Instagram story lately. And both times I've posted it, at least a couple of people have said, oh, that's what Larry looks like. Multiple people have said, I was expecting based on what I've heard on the podcast that Larry was going to look like this old man.

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You know, we've probably read this. Like, I read this one at the beginning and the end of every episode. So many times. I've probably read those. I don't even, you know, like a hundred times. Yeah, probably. I don't have it memorized, though. I mean, like, I know what's coming next, but I couldn't just spit any one of them off.

You just need someone to feed that next line to you. Yeah, the line. Yeah. Tanner, there is a show on hbo well first of all i i'm still plowing through the wire it's still is it anything like the mandalorian i haven't watched the mandalorian because i might not understand if you're not talking about the mandalorian i'm probably not up i do okay i do have to say a lot of people talk with mandalorian yeah and i will watch it at some point here but i still it seems like universally a lot of people if you look say the wire is one of the best tv shows ever made have you ever talked to someone that has said i watch the wire one person at my

work that has tried to get me to watch the wire for quite some time now like the sopranos is up there too like yeah yeah yeah yeah more people have watched the sorranos i still don't know a ton that have but a lot of people have at least seen some episodes yeah they know they know who tony soprano is right like someone that hasn't watched the wire be like name one character off the wire be like no no i don't know and i still so i guess what i'm saying is i'm kind of shocked like no one ever talks about that show because it's really really good so someone uh i can't remember what the meme was you know people have been doing a really good job of making memes and tagging us. Someone did something about the, like saying something.

Oh, like maybe it was like a rundown, you know, because I haven't like people have been doing the rundown. There was the one of Idris Elba Charles. Oh, yeah. And it's the wire. Yeah. Well, there was the one. I know I'm aware of the effect i have on tanner and tommy instead of the effect i have on it yeah yeah but uh i i do gotta i finish a third season and i do

gotta say it is it is for sure one of the best tv shows i've ever seen in my life it's very very good but um we don't need to talk about that you know that gets enough fan that gets enough fan for already uh there is a show called a new show on hbo called how to with john wilson oh and is that like owen wilson no not at all the guy's very very weird it's like and i'm gonna i want to do some research on it but i want to watch all the episodes first it's almost like if nathan fielder from nathan for you but even more awkward was in charge of like making a documentary okay and he doesn't really interact with people a ton. Is it supposed to be funny? What's so good about it is the first episode is How to Make Small Talk.

And it's like if you took a guy that was an alien and never talked with a human in their life and they said, all right, you have to make a how-to video on how to make small talk. And this guy lives in New York. And so he just has tons and tons and tons of footage. So that's what I had to look up was because he has so much footage of random shit happening in New York. And I think it said like he films like to make six episodes. They filmed every day in New York for over a year. So they're just filming nonstop. And he's just like, oh, yeah, you make small.

Like he's saying really obvious things like you make small talk to make the other person comfortable, but the guy talks super awkward. It's all voiceover. Yeah. And then like, eventually he's like, oh, I, and then I went and then he's on like spring break vacation in, um, uh, Mexico, but it also happens to be while MTV spring break is going on. And he's like someone like me, that's very introverted.

And so he's like trying to like talk to these college kids and, and whole thing's really weird and then all of a sudden you know there's like this kid like opening up to him and they're having like this life experience but then there's another one like that's kind of one extreme and then the one i just watched is he's talking about scaffolding in new york i was not aware of this there's i did not know that scaffolding is like a big deal in new york like every building has to have the whole facade like inspected every five years okay and so there's like just permanently scaffolding up everywhere and he talks about scaffolding non-stop and then he's talking to like uh these guys play backgammon underneath scaffolding every single day and then this guy is talking about having sex underneath scaffolding and like it just goes on and on and on and it's the awkwardness of it

is so crazy but then at the same time you realize like, oh man, he's actually doing some high level commentary. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like a critical analysis of what this stuff is. And there's. And what's it called again? John Wilson.

How to with John Wilson. Okay. 25 minute episodes. I'd like to watch that show. 25 minute episodes. You can really get into it. Yeah. There's like, my wife was watching.

She's like, what's going on here? And I'm like, this is amazing. Whatever is happening. And so I recommend it. That sounds about right up my alley. Yeah. She's like, what's going on here? And I'm like, this is amazing. Whatever is happening. And so I recommend it. That sounds about right up my alley. Yeah. And you like Nathan for you. Yeah.

I was going to say, that's what I was going to ask. Do they still make Nathan for you? They don't. But Nathan for you. Nathan Fielder is one of the producers of the show. So it's almost like, it's almost like, okay. Yeah. You can see like.

But he's not in it at all. He's not in it, but he is one of the producers. So you can almost see like where that, that flair comes in. Yeah. I miss Nathan for you, though. Oh, it was so good. That was a really good show. The marketing, like, I mean, to say like Massanomics

hasn't ever taken a cue from the Nathan Fielder marketing department like that. We have. Yeah, we have. And it's just that whole show is just solid gold. Yeah, it is. All right. Well, I'm going to check that one out. Yeah. And, you know, 25-minute that whole show is just solid gold. Yeah, it is. All right. Well, I'm going to check that one out.

Yeah. And you know, 25 minute show is like in this day and age, you can just plow through those things. I'm going to check that out before the wire. The wire, I would be afraid to get into. It seems like an endeavor. It is an endeavor. And it also is an endeavor.

I can say that a lot of people say the first season is hard to get through. I will agree. The first season is hard to get through. Even the start of the second season can be a little tough to get through. So it's always a hard sell when you're like, you just have to like watch, you just have to plow through the first 15 hours and then you'll really be sucked in.

But I still would recommend it. Oh yeah. Let's do that. Let's yeah. Before we are, before we get too much Tanner, I don't know if we've done this one on the show or not. I'm not even sure what it is. I can see that we're talking about a can here people what's in the can

i'm not even sure what fruit that is i was gonna say it's an orange i was gonna say it's a lemon but maybe that's a grapefruit it has a yellow peel but a pink inside right so i'm not sure what we have here to be honest no sodium i know what we don't have but sodium a crisp crack yep i think that's a grapefruit on there i was gonna say orange maybe you're right i don't know i was just gonna i was literally just gonna say maybe you're right i mean the picture to me looks like a grapefruit. Well, the can is orange, but the picture looks like maybe it's orange grapefruit.

That could be it. So we're both right. Should we take a look? Yeah, I hope that's what it is. Orange grapefruit. It is. Nice. We are geniuses.

Wow. With our powers combined. See, we've been playing this game wrong the whole time. You know, I'm pretty sure i picked these ones out but i do not remember picking out an orange grape i feel like that would be in my head like it's a good flavor great i like this flavor we've never had this one before no i don't think so it's a good flavor i like orange the orange grape happy accident there yeah oh orange grapefruit i think i think I would give this four J.D. Powered Associates.

There again, I was going to give it four. This is a notch above the standard 3.5. Yeah, that's good stuff. So this is the AHA orange grapefruit. It's good. Yeah. That's what it's all about. It is.

But The Mandalorian is a good show. That's my hot take on The Mandalorian. It's worth watching. Hot take? Season two, they're running. And did you see what I was going to say is that Disney Plus has announced some other. Didn't they announce like 50 Star Wars things? Right, right.

There's some other ones like the big one. I haven't looked into it at all yet i just know they announced some other ones i guess i shouldn't even talk about it because i don't know what they are but i was interested i just haven't taken the time to look into what the new ones are yeah i just saw like a meme or a joke or something like making fun of i guess they announced some insane number of star wars yeah that's what i kind of noticed too yeah which they're like oh yeah money oh we love money it has to be just like how bad would it have to be for people to be like no we're done with this right like i think the same thing when drake comes out with a new song they just have to be like well or he has to think like i i mean this song could be pretty shitty but

whatever i mean it's gonna at least be top 10 so like how long would he have to put out shitty music for people to be like ah it's not worth checking out the new drake song like those people once you reach that level you've just reached the level of it doesn't matter what you do people eat it up yeah it's like what mass massonomics does at this point in time we're pretty much in that same territory which we did have a new shirt drop. Yeah, speaking of eating it up, it is the... Ah, ha, ha. We will talk about this more later on in the episode because... Ooh, the bubbles in that are extra strong, Taylor. That's why they call it bubbly. Because we do have... Or ah-ha.

Because we do have the kind of fit, kind of fat guys on this episode. But by the time you're hearing this, the Massonomics kind of fit, kind of fat collaboration, our version of it has been on our site for a few days now yep and uh that is limited edition once those are gone they are gone so if you're interested you're for sure going to want to get on that but uh turned out really cool i like it it's got the smaller version of the logo on the front chest and then the big logo on the back this guy's slamming a slamming a bruski and some pizza yep yep which i think we all like that a little bit don't we who doesn't i don't know anyone nobody i want to know that's that's the key there yeah stay away from that person i was thinking of

something else we mentioned the noon crew that was one of the things i had on my mind was the noon crew and the specifically the spelling of the noon crew. But the other thing was someone in a follow-up. We got several follow-up questions from our Q&A. I just can't remember all of them. I should have written them down. But there was someone that asked us, followed us up about the idea that. Our evil superpowers.

People did talk about that. They wanted more detail. Yeah, people did talk about it they wanted more detail yeah people were talking about that but the idea that we um a few people were surprised to hear that massonomics is not our only job oh you know to me like i take that for granted at this point that like i assume people understand that yeah you know i suppose depending on when you jump on board you wouldn't necessarily know that yeah and they had a question about them hearing like maybe they were starting their own business i can't remember even the details because they're like i said there's a few questions but this stuck out to me that they're asking the details about that because they heard someone else speaking on a podcast that they subscribed to the theory i don't know that they called it this but uh are you aware of like burning the

ships it was like no spanish sailor or conqueror i think it's like cortez or someone like that conquistadors yeah yeah they wanted to take over the aztecs and in order to get his everyone on board with like he's like in order to know, ensure that they would succeed, had no other choice. They got there and landed. They burned the ships. Okay. Yeah.

I've also heard this mentality, like in business, like, all right, I'm just going to start not even in business, but like a, like a, like a solo entrepreneur or whatever,

or whatever you're doing that you're just going to spend a shit ton of money and live like you're living it up because then you have to make sales right right right like you can't you can't uh you don't have that uh that safety net so you have to get shit done i've heard people and that's and that that that's what my point was going to be that and i know i mean we haven't talked about it but i know you would think the same way is that i am not a believer in burning the ships. No. Because someone could say, well, are you guys doing everything? You could put more into Mastinomics if you got rid of all those safety nets

and you had no choice, but that's not the way I would want to live my life. I think there's a few things here. One is that it really did start out as a hobby thing. It was purely a for fun thing. Like a kind of a creative outlet for like five people. Yeah. How it started.

Yeah. It developed into a business over time. It was not even a business in the beginning at all. It was purely a like creative outlet. Yeah. Like a thing to do and it was fun. Yes. And that's great.

I don't think every business should start that way and most shouldn't. Like that doesn't get you anywhere. But then eventually it did get to the point where it's making money. you do get a point we talk about this all the time like if we both had 20 more hours a week oh my god we have like so many massonomics ideas yeah but where i think we are at a bit of a disadvantage geographically is that um like you for example your job if you were to quit your job, there's not a lot of opportunities in a situation like that in our community. Right, right. Yeah, I can't just be like, all right, I'll get that job that is good.

If you live in a big market, chances are any one position you have, there are many, many, many opportunities. There's definitely gonna be more competition, but there's many more opportunities. Tanner, if you quit your job here there would be other opportunities but it's going to be in slightly different fields yeah probably fewer and farther between yeah fewer yes and there's definitely yeah much less opportunity um it could be drastically different pay right things like that so um that's one part of it there and i don know. Like it's also like we spend a lot of time. Like it's not like I think some people think like, well, I work this job 40 hours a week. And yeah, I just can't do anything else.

It's like, well, no. Like I do my other job probably like 45 to 50 hours a week. There's a lot of hours available. And then Mathonomics is like another, I don't know, depending on the week, another 10 to 20-ish, just depending on what's going on. So I don't know. We both just kind of work a lot, hours available is like another i don't know depending on the week another yeah out of 10 to 20 ish just depending on what's going on so like i don't know we both just kind of work a lot sort of we do we do and like the the and i've heard i've heard people say it on podcasts again i can't remember who who specifically but they advocate advocate for you just got to go all in a hundred percent or, and I'm like, no, like I, to me for more people than not, I think that that's bad advice because.

Well, you're basically like sound financial decisions. Like, cause you're basically giving them your job as long as you can. Yeah. And that's, I feel like is this sort of thing. Keep your job as long as you can.

Yeah. And then ideally both, both your ad. Right. Like, and then both yeah when it gets to the point where yeah where they're both like they really are competing to the point where it's like okay they're both doing awesome yeah right choice then i think that's when you

make the decision not right because that requires a lot of work yeah a lot of time is that busy that no like oh okay i work 45 hours a week right. There's no way I could fit another job in. Like, no, you could easily fit another job in. Right. And that's kind of the approach that we're taking is that, all right, this is a very solid part-time job with everything going on. Yes. With everything going on.

Literally everything we have going on with it. And we just make it work. But yeah, we say it more and more though. It is every year getting more and more to the point that, God, if we had more time. that actually right now time is our biggest limiting factor it is it is it's not still logically i we're both of the mindset like we're not that is our biggest limiting factor but it's still not to the point financially where it makes sense for it to be our full-time job still quite you know like it you could let

you it could be done yeah i definitely i've had jobs that pay less than economics does that i work right right right exactly but we the other thing i have a family of five that like i care for yeah and you know you have a family that you care for also. And like, it's just not, to me, it's just not smart. Like, it's just not. And I'm also the type of person that likes to be really busy. Yeah, right. I don't do good, like having a lot of like free time on my hands because that's just not how my brain works very well.

Well, sometimes I think I'm like that a little bit where I, the more you have, like the better, like the more productive you are like, Oh yeah, I'll do this. And then I'm back. And then I'm this. Yeah.

And like, and like, if you stay busy, like, you know, you just had to keep going. Like when you have time, it's like,

Oh, I got time. I can think about it when it happens. And like, it just, it, it leaves too much like just up in the air. Like,

but when you gotta keep, like you're on a deadline, you gotta keep, we know on a deadline you gotta keep we know we got two pieces of content coming out tomorrow we know we got ships shirts to ship tomorrow we know we got new designs we got to put in we know we got the podcast coming up we know we got topics for it we don't get all this other stuff like you can't slow down ever and that is kind of the the thing is that just the momentum always stays going i agree yeah so we're on the same page with that and i know some people probably think differently, but I don't know.

I just. Yeah. To us, that's not. Yeah. And like for us right now, like the big thing that we say, like mass economics could grow. I think. I mean, we definitely have tons of ideas that we just can't do right now. Right.

And for us, it is time is limiting factor. Yeah. But it's not even like we could hire people online because so much of what we want, what we have planned involves being physically here with us yeah and so yeah we're gonna try we do have some idea we do and we actually do have some we can't really talk about it yet but i would say for 2021 we've got some exciting different ideas that we're going to be exploring and probably uh i think some things will come to fruition on that and will be exciting and very different than what we've got going on outside

of like just merchandise yeah yeah and i'm not yeah not even referring to merchandise here like just like from uh more of a content perspective we've got some cool stuff yeah i'm i'm excited for it now it's just we gotta figure out how it's going to happen. Well, right. That was actually our conversation today. How are we going to make this happen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The normal problems people have, like staffing and money, we don't really have those problems right now. It's just how much time is there in a day?

Yep. If we just had clones of ourselves. If we did, we'd have the money tree have you ever seen the prestige i have yeah yep we could just do that do that whole thing uh the magic trick thing yeah you gotta become magicians but do you remember the guy uh spoiler alert um he was creating another version of himself that and it was getting cloned and locked into a uh drowned beneath the stage each time and he made the comment i just don't know for sure if i'm going to be the prestige or the man in the box below the stage i remember like once i saw that i'm like oh

and i don't remember the entire movie now but yeah i think i'm like that seems like that's the easy way out yeah storyline but i think there was more to it there was it's a pretty good movie i enjoy that yes it was a very good movie it was it was it's semi-spoiled wasn't it yeah and also batman yeah uh was it christian bale was it him i think so could have been i can't i actually don't know i honestly can can't remember. I don't. Aren't they both in it? Because isn't there kind of two guys like battle? The two guys are battling each other and trying to figure out how he's doing this. Well, Christian Bale has a twin brother is how he was doing it. Hugh Jackman.

That's who I was thinking of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. Christian Bale. And Christian Bale has a twin. yeah yeah yeah you're right christian bale and christian bale has a twin twin bro like yeah christian bale played the the ridiculously long game on his on his trick that he had a twin brother and nobody ever knew it okay this is funny too because i was gonna say i think they played a lot of david bowie music in that movie no david bowie's an actor in the movie that's where my

brain was thinking of david bowie okay okay Huh. Kind of want to watch the prestige now. Do we have time for that on this episode? Should we do a live viewing of it? We'll just offer commentary the whole time. Voice over the, like, ha ha. Oh,

he killed the guy again. Okay. There's Tesla. Tanner, the other thing, very relevant in the strength training world right now. In skate news. Also in skate news also in skate news

this is our skate news segment do we have a button for that skate news that's spoiler alert again like that's part of our new content going into skate news something I know a lot about Tanner and I talked about this a long time

we decided that we're gonna really start looking more at the skateboarding culture. That's the direction Masonomics has to go in. But to start this reoccurring segment off Tanner, Big SC Boy. What's this big boy from Strength Cartel? Yeah. I don't know what his like. If you don't.

Is that his actual name i think jacob i think if his i think his name is jacob don't quote me on the big jacob boy yeah but he you you gotta see this on his instagram if you haven't already he is dropping in on a actual half pipe and that is that and it was tony hawk yeah it was tony yeah he's with tony how they say 13 and a half feet yeah so it's actual vert there's actual vert and he's he can he can skate he totally can for how big he is it's like shocking how he can actually move on a skateboard he is exceptionally agile in yeah you know but so he drops in 13 and a half feet and he slams pretty hard. Like he slams hard. Yeah.

No doubt about that. But they say he's okay here. He said he was okay. 330 pounds though. 330 pounds pretty much just falling straight down is crash landing like onto your shoulder. How does that not like rip your arm off? It just sounds the sound of the fall sounds brutal here.

He like it sounds like an explosion and he gets he gets up. The sound of the fall sounds brutal here. Yeah. It sounds like an explosion. And he gets up, but he's definitely a little dazed from that, I think. Yeah. But if you look, though, if you're into skating at all, he does have clips of him skating around. And, you know, it doesn't make sense that a guy, you wouldn't think a guy that big could one even ride a skateboard. I'm surprised the skateboard can even, like, because he'll do it.

Like, he'll get it off the ground. I'm like, how are things not breaking? But yeah, if you're interested in skating at all or seeing big guys skate, definitely. If you're not following him already, definitely check out his. That would take some serious balls to drop in on that. Oh my God. I can't imagine the nuts. I mean, if you're a great

skater of course it's not like oh when i was younger i used to skate quite a bit and i could never imagine dropping it on vert like you almost get like i feel like the first time you're almost guaranteed that that's gonna happen like that's the end unless you just have the perfect yeah the perfect amount of uh just like half pipes mini pipes pipes and ramps around where you can go with like to a six foot ramp, nine foot ramp, ten foot. And like you just get to take all these steps in. So there's never that big jump. I actually and this come from someone that couldn't skate, can't, hasn't, wouldn't at all. But I don't actually see like after watching that video, how you how it does do that.

Like, like, I i'm like that's what happens if you go straight down on a skateboard your body is going to smash into the ground like what like i'm like i'm not sure like physics of how what big boy is supposed to do there yeah we'll make it what could he have done yeah i'm like yeah that's what's gonna happen you're going to smash down into the ground when you get to the bottom of that. Yeah, half pipes are a weird, scary thing. I would want nothing to do with it. Like, when I think about it, too, I'm like, when you get to the top and, you know, I don't know, they get air at the top of the half pipe. How do you even control?

Like, I don't get how they're controlling whether that, you know, when they want to be done and they just, like, get off that. Like, how are they controlling where they're going from that point? Yeah, I mean, it's the thing of, like, of like it's pumping like how you carry your momentum through like you're not bringing it up with you the same way but i mean you do have a good point like i would i would be able to do that yeah and i guess i guess that's why they get paid the big bucks yeah take those big falls and i mean i was not bad at tony hawk pro skater i don't know if that counts for something. That does count for something. Jerry was a race car driver. And Superman. Those two right there. Classics.

Do we want to start ads already, Tanner? I suppose it's about that time. Did we get through everything on our list? It's weird that we would get through everything on our list. Yeah. What's that about? I don't know if we're too early for the guests. No, I just...

I mean, we can go 10 more minutes, Tanner. Everyone knows that. That's true. That's what she said. Should we get the show on the road? Yeah, I suppose. I think we'll be good. I think they'll be on board here.

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We'll be sitting here and we'll hit the thing and it'll tick. What does it go for, like 30 seconds? I don't know how that even works. I've never played chess like that. Yeah, I don't know. I'm assuming it's a timer. I guess it's timed chess. So it's like we'll be talking and I'll hit it.

And then as soon as it goes off, Tanner, I'll know you have to read one line of an ad. And then you'll hit it again. And then we'll just keep talking. Then I'll read one line of an ad. So that we have an almost ad, completely ad-sprinkled podcast. Yeah, and I think that it's it's just a running timer so you're stopping it every time you hit the button and the other person's timer is going i don't know how that factors in to the game i've never played chess like that i haven't either

i don't know i guess that's competitive chess i suppose or like actual it seems like you would do that in a competitive way versus how i play yeah right right right uh but shipping update quick shipping update oh so it's been of a sum everyone knows at this point that if you're trying to order stuff uh it's nearly impossible for it to go anywhere i'd say what we're doing is we're getting things out almost immediately just like always yeah so we're doing everything we can as far as getting it shipped out out it's out our door as fast as it can be. Like usually within a day or less. But where people maybe get a little confused is they think that because we send the item,

we have some special backdoor communications with the U.S. Postal Service. We're in tight with them, yeah. Yeah, unfortunately, it's just like when you send a letter, you put it in, you go, it gets there when it gets there, I guess. And that's kind of where we're at. So if you check your tracking and it says,

it gives you the message that they're experiencing longer than normal delays, but your package is still on the way. That's also what we see if we check that. So from what I've seen, people's stuff is, it's exactly what they say. They're experiencing longer than normal delays, but your stuff is on the way and it's going to get there. Outside of some rare circumstances, not different than way and it's going to get there. Outside of some rare circumstances, not different than normal, it's going to get there.

So I guess just give it a little time, unfortunately. Like that kind of sucks, but that's not a massonomics problem. That's like a global or a nationwide problem. For sure nationwide. Yeah. Maybe even slightly bigger than that with just shipping in general right now. So yeah, we're doing everything we can. It's just the USPS that sucks right now.

Yeah. Actually, they're probably doing everything they can do. I think they are, too. It's just with everything going on. In these uncertain times. With everything going on. I don't know. The times are almost getting straight up trying at this point.

Yeah. The only thing that is certain is uncertainty. That's the only thing we can bank on at this point. That is it. That and a guest. Oh, should we get this thing going? Yes. Let's get the rotary dial

dial up the old phone machine. And we are chatting with Alex and Dean. Wow, Tanner, you gave away the surprise there. Oh, is this big Alex and big Dean? Hello?

All right. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Can you hear us? Yes, we can. Dean, are you on too? Hello? All right, cool.

There we go. All right. What's up, guys? So we've got Big Dean and Big Alex of Kind of Fit, Kind of Fat live on the Mastonomics podcast. We're excited to have you guys on tonight. We're happy to be here, too. Yeah, thanks for having us. Okay, so I guess what we were thinking about kicking off with is how we kind of got this little party together to begin with,

as we did a Mastonomics of fit kind of fat collaboration and the first thing people need to know is both of ours have been released at the point of this coming out I think they probably sold pretty well at this point so I don't even know if anything's available left for you to get from from you guys or us but if possible you need to check that out do you guys have anything left is there anything left on the collaboration shirt at this point in time do they have something they can buy anymore i think technically we've already had to restock a little bit of it okay um because we did sell out the first one so i i mean obviously i'd have to you don't quote me but yeah that's uh i'm pretty sure that i'm pretty sure you can't sold out i'm pretty sure i didn't get a shirt i work here.

I don't have one either. That's kind of how that tends to go though, isn't it? Yeah. It really is. The point being, if you want one, don't wait a second. If you still have any hopes of getting one, check it out right away. You might not even be able to.

It's just because they're so hot. They're hot right now. If you want one even be able to. And it's just because they're so hot. They're hot right now. If you want one, you should have bought one two weeks ago. Basically, you're at your S.O.L. now. Yeah. So, Dean, you are the founder of Kind of Fit, Kind of Fat. If someone is listening and maybe they're saying Kind of Fit, Kind of Fat, never heard of them. How would you describe Kind of Fit, Kind of fat to the unknowing person oh yeah that's a big question

um i guess i feel like it's uh pretty much for me when i when i like think of it i think of it like a community like i always think community whenever i think of the brand because that's kind of what i always was wanting to kind of curate and help build but like a community of supportive people and people who are kind of going against the grain or pretty much just doing what they want but also feeling comfortable with themselves while still getting better you know it's it's especially in the industry it's something that I felt was missing, you know,

like showing diversity, showing different people, like different, what is an athlete? Redefining all that kind of stuff. And for me in a short term, it's a community that is trying to discover that and trying to open the conversation on that.

Um, in a short way. Yeah. And that's, I think it's pretty obvious if someone looks at your stuff, like that, that message does come across pretty clearly. And there's also a food component to it, too, if people aren't aware.

I had no idea. I just realized, and it was a Tiffany not too long ago, I feel kind of funny about one of our other business partners. I'm like, I think I love food. And they're like, yeah, thanks.

It's funny because like when I play video games, a lot of my usernames are Mr. Eat 005 and some stupid shit like that. So like my entire life has been very food based. So I'm not surprised with where I ended up. Yeah. That makes sense. When did you guys kind of first get the ball rolling? When was it first even a twinkle in your eye and how long did it take until it was a real thing from that point

on? Oh man, I think officially I filed a business license with it back in May of 2017. Um, but it kind of started, I think a year before that in 2016, I was actually working as a ergonomic and physical therapist at, um, Oreos.

Oh, um, naturally. Um, yeah, so I was working there and it was kind of like i just left orange county i was kind of doing more physique and bodybuilding kind of stuff and then i moved back to like um the empire which is in our area like it's not it's not it's more industrial you know so you know i go eat a lot more with my friends and stuff like that and so i had other physical therapists who was with me at the time and i love going to fit expos and all that kind of stuff but i was like i want to find something that kind of more

relatable to me or something that was kind of more you know that wasn't so serious you know because when i go to expo sometimes it was very intimidating and it was very hardcore all the time. And so I was talking to her and like I had in my bio, I put like I have like kind of it kind of sad. It was on my Instagram bio for all like I think about a year. And I was like, I think I'm going to print this on a shirt. What do you think? And she's like, yeah, it's a good idea.

But are you going to fucking do it or are you just going to keep talking about it? Because every week I tell her, I think I'm going to do this. I'm tired of your shit. You either do it or you don't. I'm like, fine, to fucking do it or are you just going to keep talking about it because every week I tell her I think I'm going to do this like I'm tired of your shit you either do it or you don't I'm like fine I'll do it and so that night I went home and you know I looked up how do you start a business on google I looked at all

that up and then I kind of like started this side baby like I'm going to try and put this on a shirt you know and I went to like one of those online sites where you like put in So you put in a graphic and they put it on for you and so I printed it and I got it I was like, oh, this is the coolest thing ever So I like walked around with it and I like what all my friends like, you know, this stick would you buy this? And they're like, yeah, that's pretty cool

All right, cool. I'm gonna make some shirts and sell it and um, that's kind of like how it kind of started for me, at least. Wow. So, okay, that is a great getting started story. But there was one detail in there that I feel like you still glossed over a little too fast. Did you say ergonomics at the Oreo factory? Yeah, it's funny. So I actually, I got my doctorate in physical therapy um i think back in 14 and so i was doing sports therapy and rehab and eventually i moved on to do ergonomics and stuff so it was

so random i was just googling stuff i've been looking at jobs i'm like what other stuff kind of physical therapists do you know and i'm like oh cool this one looks fun it said like costco or going in like a cheese factory and i'm like this looks this one looks fun it said like costco or going in like a cheese factory and i'm like this looks fun so i went and eventually i worked in in the industry and they put me in the oreo factory they put me in the cheese factory the everything food-based and so i was kind of like so are you like the ergonomics of like the office workers or of like the factory workers or all of it it was all of it so i just go in and i check and make sure that everyone is kind of like operating safely if there was like

a risk hazard i'm like hey that's not good what can we do to fix it talk to engineering talk to different people and they like build it like triple stuff oreo make sure that's close to your body when you're lifting yeah i mean you don't want to eat it you gotta eat it at a 90 degree angle yeah yeah the thin ones you can do whatever but yeah the triple stuff you have to have lifting proper lifting technique for those they were they were actually heavier you're not wrong yeah that's cool okay so the other thing i was thinking, you know, you guys have, you have over here on the massonomics world, it's Tommy and I.

So we've got a couple of us here. We don't really have titles. You guys have enough people, enough moving parts over there that you have actual titles and different job descriptions. So Alex, what is your title? I mean, we kind of know this and know what you do, but just for everyone listening. So I'm the Chief Business Officer with kind of picking up that. Basically, I mean, me and Dean kind of joke about it that we just kind of

do whatever we want all the time and just kind of, you know, basically my role is to, you know, kind of grow the company, deal with a lot of the business relations, creating bridges, different contracts. Basically, kind of what I did with you guys when I first reached out, that on a grander scale. where the company could grow and should grow, and then finding the ways to do that and facilitate those needs to continue the growth of the company, as well as being able to give more and more people access to our brand, our community, our tribe, and then continuously growing into different sports facets and stuff like that. That was, that sounded very official, Alex. So I think you passed the test there.

But so you did, you did kind of touch on it. You guys have, to me, at least this year, been very noticeably involved in the strongman world like i know you have i think you have been for a while now but uh this year you guys it was hard to catch like a major strongman event that didn't have kind of fit kind of fat attached to it yeah yeah yeah yeah we've been very fortunate uh you know we were able to kind of you know create a lot of a lot of meaningful connections in this in the strongman sport um you know know, create a lot of, a lot of meaningful connections in this, in the strongman sport. Um, you know, we've had a lot of, you know, real fun, uh, you know, we've had a lot of fun with our athletes, um, you know, being able to work with the Arnold, um, you know, different giants live world's strongest man, um, world ultimate strongman, you know, I mean the kind of just being able to enjoy working with these different organizations that really promote and

make sure that, you know, strong men has a really big base. You know, and you guys know, you know, Jackson and iron resurgence and all that, you know, like companies that are, you know, basically companies that really are looking for ways to help, you know, the athletes really grow and, you know, just love the sport. So, I mean, it's been, it's been really cool. I definitely never saw myself in a position to where you know i would be able to do this kind of as a job so it's you know i'm you know truly i'm truly happy that everybody had kind of taken a fat thought that

i was you know good enough to bring on the team so awesome well so strongman's a big area for you guys but you also deal uh even outside of strength sports don't you kind of work with some athletes and stuff in in other areas as well uh yeah we've worked in gaming industry we have a couple of pro gating friends um and also like the drifting we try to do that early because of some connections we've had out in our area who are hosting drifting events so for me when i was like focusing on the brand and development of the brand there was that early because of some connections we've had out in our area who were hosting drifting events so for me when i was like focusing on the brand and development of the brand there was one i kind of wanted to build platforms for i guess what you'd call niche sports at the time

because a lot of mainstream didn't show that there were other options or different sports that you know existed and so part of one of my missions when growing the brand was to bring a light to what what is sport you know like if you didn so part of one of my missions when growing the brand was to bring a light to what, what a sport, you know, like if you didn't consider a sport and I believe it is, and no drifting, like different types of sports that are out there and kind of like bringing them to light in a fun way, you know? Yeah. About the extent of extent of my drifting knowledge is what I learned on fast and the Furious I think maybe is Tokyo Drift 3 or I'm not sure

I don't know the 10 Tokyo Drift so is that pretty much what it's like then yeah Vin Diesel looking characters I mean we work at Vin Diesel

I mean that's like more of the street aspect of it you know where it's developing Hawaii too but in the organized sport it's like in a circuit you know you have cars go against each other and they're

rated on the drip and there's a lot of different ways that they're evaluated. So it's not necessarily... So there is an actual sanctioned sport behind it and everything? Yeah. Oh, okay. I didn't realize that. And it's probably bigger than powerlifting or strongman. I don't doubt it.

That's a game we like to play sometimes. Think of other sports that seem crazy to us that are actually bigger than the ones we're really interested in. I don't think we're going to be a little big. We're definitely going to be kind of picking a fat curling team. Perfect. This would be a question for both of you if you could if someone reached out to you guys and wanted to start an apparel business what's one piece of advice that you would uh give them if you could only give them one what what would you tell them i mean i really

like to be honest yeah yeah i mean don't do it if you can't just tell them not to be like don't do it i can change my answer then yeah yes yeah no um i think my advice would be allow yourself to have fun because it's stressful and yeah yeah if you can if you can like if you can if you can surround yourself with enough people that love what you do and are you know passionate enough about being friends with you and doing it like we have like we're blessed to have a kind of a kind of that then it's doable you know obviously i mean you guys know just working together you know it's crazy sometimes but it's still rewarding right yeah yeah we're from western northeast south dakota so we can't find any friends but we're in colorado we're struggling too

because i mean i've been isolated for a year. I think for me, there's so many things I could say, but if you do it narrowed down to one, then I think what I attribute a lot of our success to is don't be a dick. This industry is so saturated and it's also

very competitive. We always started, when we started the brand, we never, we always felt that being kind to other people, being kind to other brands or the business

and kind of just, that spreads, you know? And for me, like I know a lot of other brands are like, why would you want to collab with another brand?

Like it's competitors. I'm like, dude, people wear different shirts every day. I don't expect, I don't expect people to wear people to wear a KFK. Yeah, you know, exactly.

And at the end of the day, I truly believe that when people work together, more creativity and beautiful things happen. And so if I could just narrow it down, don't be a dick. Be open to talking to people. Be open to working with people. It's part of Gordon culture.

Yeah. And you guys have done collaborations with a fair uh number of other companies i think one that a lot of people probably uh recognize fairly recently you did uh one with lift evil um but you've also done one with uh johnny cupcakes who's a pretty big brand like definitely outside of the lift i mean they're not lifting related it's just a it's just a big brand any way you look at it. What other companies have you guys worked with? We did Notorious

Lift. We've done Milk and Tea. We've done GoCity. So, like, we do so we try to do some restaurants. We try to kind of, you know, go around and do whatever works out. Oh, E5 Pass which is the gaming community. So, fighting game community. um, stuff like that.

Yeah. That's a pretty wide net then. Oh yeah, for sure. And I mean, uh, for us, for me too, like I, I felt fitness is such a global concept, you know, like it can go from anywhere from lifting stones to lifting weights to, you know, doing different things and so because it is a wide wide aspect i felt that the brand should also be open to other things like that right um you guys can be honest though you you like doing a collaboration with us better than frank frank at least lift evil right oh man just. So much better and so much...

I fucking hate Frank. That guy's... Talk about a dick. We'll have to make this a clip. It's one of those things where it's like, okay, I guess we can. No. Frank's from the same part of the world as I am.

He's from Jersey. I'm from Philadelphia. So, you know, me and him have been friends for a while. So, you know, it was really, it was really fun to be able to work with him too. But yeah, no, we definitely like you guys more. So just don't tell him. I don't think he listens to this anyway. He definitely does.

It'll be even better. Alright, now that we have our drama stirred up too. We got what we wanted. We got the sound bite that we needed. That's always the goal. I know he's been trying to stir it for the past couple episodes. I figured

he already tries to stir it with us, so we might as well. Yeah. Do you guys have any of, you know, I, we, we know how this works and you probably don't, you know, there's probably things you're working on that you don't want to talk about at this point in time. But is there anything big or anything new and exciting coming up like in 2021 that you guys have in the works? I mean, I know the answer is yes, but is there anything that you would want to talk about at this point in time but is there anything uh big or anything new and exciting coming up like in 2021 that you guys have in the works i mean i know the answer is yes but is there anything that you would want to talk about at this point in time um am i i know alex you want to cover any of that oh i mean i was just going to say you know i was just going to talk about like the stuff that nina's working on i mean just because that is pretty that's pretty cool yeah we're's working on. I mean, just because that is pretty cool. Yeah, we're essentially working on expanding

our line and diversifying our brand more. So I know we've launched the supplement not too long ago, and we're hoping that will continue to grow into the new year. But also kind of moving into female things, because our lead designer, our chief designer in the office is Amina, so she's kind of

making sports bras, kind of doing stuff like that and doing a lot of R&D. We're opening up tech wear and athletic wear to help so it's not just shirts all the time. That's cool. That's a whole separate can of worms.

That's like the fact that you can put it on your body is the only thing it has in common with t-shirts. That's it. That's literally it. Like she gave us like one day, cause it was us and then she's her and then four other guys on the board. And she's like, okay guys, this is what I have. And we're like, I don't even know what to do with that. Well, yeah. I mean, she gave, she gave four guys this like spider, spider thing. And obviously all four of us are looking at it like, okay, so where does the head go?

I know Mina has a video of it. We're all just completely lost looking at this. Yeah, so it's definitely her project. So we love that you're doing that for the brand. It's all her. We should not have our hands in that. Yes, we're very happy Nina knows what she's doing

yeah it's funny like just into a graphic tee how much you know you guys know how much work can go into just getting something like that out and available but then stuff like that is a whole like I said I mean it's just like the amount of

like the amount of work that you got to go through to get something like a market ready product that you have ready to ship out to people. It's, it can be kind of daunting at times. Oh yeah. Like I think there's been like years of work and then at the same time, you're still scared. Like, Oh gosh, what if they hate it? Yeah.

Right. You're like all that years of work and they hate it. Great. You know? Yeah. You know, you're like, oh, you're the work and the head of great, you know. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's obviously

just the amount of like back and forth between like, okay, like this size fits really well for this, for this size, but the bigger sizes

fits a little weird so we have to redo that. Like, yeah, I mean, obviously like just, just normal stuff that you even have to deal

with with t-shirts. It's like blown a thousand times in pieces because of that. So yeah, it's, it's, it's like I said, I'm glad, uh, I'm glad Nina, I'm glad Nina not only wants to do it, but knows how to do it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And you guys did touch on quickly there.

You, you did just launch your first supplement product. Was it the, is it lemonade? The Blackberry Lemonade. Blackberry, okay, there we go. Do we, is there plans for more in that supplement line too then? Yeah. Oh, definitely, yeah.

Are you going to do something that rivals the original Jack 3D? Is that in the works? Basically, what we're going to do is we're just going to get a rabid mongoose and put it in a tank. I think there's some people listening right now that are like, ooh, that's exactly what I need. That's what I've been waiting for.

Now we've got to deliver. What am I saying? God damn it. Uh, do you guys, I think there was one thing I didn't mention. go ahead. Yeah,

we were also opening a bakery too. Um, it kind of, we were planning on launching it this year, but you know, with what happened. So we have that kind of a project that we're developing. Yeah.

So we're, we're working on, we've worked on some recipes and stuff like that. So that's something that we're developing. Yeah. So we're, we're working on, we've worked on some recipes and stuff like that. So that's something that we're hoping we'll be able to be more fruitful next year, but we'll, we'll start doing more marketing. And you mean like straight up bakery here. You're not making puns, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actual bakery.

So would it be a storefront? Yeah. So yeah, it would be definitely a storefront or a moving. I mean, it depends because initially we were actually shopping. I was with the, the, uh, our other co-founder who's running the bakery side, Monica, we were actually looking at locations earlier this year and obviously what happened, shut that whole concept down. So we kind of had to read,

reconsider what our options are. So right now we're, we're thinking either that or, you know, what's better, a pop-up or a truck. So we're still in the whole beta, figuring that phase out.

And I don't know if you guys have factored this and maybe this would change some things for you, but if you keep it mobile, then you do have the opportunity to bring it to Northeast South Dakota whenever you would want to get out this market. Or if you're looking at locations, I can guarantee you real estate is significantly cheaper

in Northeast South Dakota than it is in California. I do not doubt that at all. Maybe we will open out there. Fuck it. maybe we will open out there fuck it do you guys either of you have one design that you've ever come out with that's your favorite

yes yes I do I do as well because that's something we like to talk about sometimes we play a game of what's your favorite so what's your favorite my favorite is the about sometimes we play a game what's your favorite what so what's your favorite you know my favorite is the very first the keg the keg shirt the original one um the reason that it's my favorite is me like so i actually like so i started with kind of thick and fat as like an

athlete and i just met with dean and i was like hey i think you should potentially go into strongman and then i was like by the way i already talked to the competition and they want and said you could do a sponsorship and stuff so i kind of just like threw the fire on the things instead of kind of like asking permission which is a thing i had a problem um and then so he's like yeah i think that'll work. And then like a week later, we're at the like original warehouse. And Dean's like, well, what do you want to do for the shirt? And I was like, you know, going over some things.

And Dean's like, put it on a napkin. And like, that's such a like joke between the two of us, because we've like the original keg shirt was literally drawn on a paper towel from the bathroom. original keg shirt was literally drawn on like a paper towel from the bathroom so yeah i love that shirt because it's kind of like the beginning of when i like began with uh kind of fit and fat and so that shirt will always be my you know my it'll always have a special place in my heart basically right on dean how about you yeah i mean i'd be a dick about to say the same thing One is our house because that's the one that I actually put together And it's kind of been like the staple and the bad image So now for me that obviously has a place in my heart, but K one without like that

that obviously has a place in my heart, but the keg one with Alex, that holds also a very special place in my heart too. Wow, you guys got all these special sentimental stories for your t-shirts over there. We are a sentimental brand. Ours is more like, you know what would be funny? Tanner, remember when you said that? We were like, oh yeah, that would be funny.

That's kind of how we got. That's how we do things. That, oh yeah, that would be funny. That's kind of how we got. That's how we do things. That's more like, that would be funny. Put it on a napkin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, that's cool. Are we good? Should we hop into overrated, underrated? Or are, okay,

Alex, I know, I'm sure you're familiar with overrated, underrated. I mean, I know you are, but Dean, are you familiar with overrated, underrated? Okay, Alex, I know I'm sure you're familiar with overrated, underrated. I mean, I know you are, but Dean, are you familiar with overrated, underrated, the little game we like to play? You act like I've never listened to your podcast before. Well, I assume you probably have, but I just

know someone's listened to 200 episodes. We assume they haven't. I'm offended. You hurt my feelings. Yeah, I know. I am offended. You hurt my feelings. I know what you guys do. We found it's usually safer to assume people don't listen to it than do listen to it.

You have the casual listener and then you have the person that listens for 11 episodes in a row. Somebody listened for 14 straight hours in one day this year people are not built the same honestly like i i feel almost cheated because i definitely got close to it but next year i'll make it happen that's still like makes me feel bad for that person yeah like oh man you know you could have turned that off whenever you wanted. When they fall asleep, your commentary is just still running. Oh man, this is so boring.

I'm going to sleep all day. Okay, so overrated, underrated, and this is a special Alex and Dean kind of fit, kind of fat edition. Okay, Tanner. So we are big on the rules with this. And this really mixes it up because we do have two people. So are we making them come to one final combined decision or do they each get to answer here? What do you think?

Alex and I are so different. Maybe they each get their own answer. We'll give you guys each your own answer. There's druthers involved, so you both have your own druthers. You don't have to share druthers this time so um so the first one and there is one audible i want to throw in maybe it'll just be a bonus one but uh there's two people so a bonus okay so so yeah you get you guys will get a bonus topic but we'll save that one for last

okay so first topic here is stuffed crust pizza um i'm gonna say underrated yeah i'll say underrated too yeah i mean it's just it's you know i can't i can't tell you how many times i've been watching tv you know you watch the super bowl and you're like damn that pizza pizza just looks delightful and then you get it and you're like, it's not that great. You just have to get it. I have that feeling at the end of every pizza that I eat, though. At the beginning, you're like, oh, yeah.

And at the end, you're like, oh, I'm so full of shame right now. When you're face deep in a pizza, you're like, yeah, this is a good choice. And then 20 minutes later, you get like that sense of completion. Like you see this big, huge circle and like you get to slowly make the circle smaller. Yeah. There's something about it being a circle.

I think too. Um, which direction do you eat it then? I mean, obviously counter talk wise because, you know, but as-talk-wise because, you know, in defiance. But as far as the stuffed crust, do you do crust first?

I thought you were saying counter-talk. I was thinking that too. That's also a good question. I was like, damn, I've never actually thought about what direction I eat the pizza. I feel like I kind of just pull them out right away. You base on each individual slice. You're like, do I want the big one?

Do I want the one with the bubble? I did just eat a big one. I need to eat a smaller one now. No, I just pulled it right in the middle. So you both agreed there, though. You both said underrated. We did, yeah. Okay. Maybe one more like that.

We'll find out how different you really are. Overrated, underrated always shows everyone's true colors. Topic number two, overrated or underrated vans. Not like a driving van. Not the one by the river. The clothing and footwear company. Not the soccer one? I mean,

because I love vans. I mean, you guys are California guys. You're right in the thick of it there. Yeah. What's worse is in the thick of it there. Yeah. Like we have, what's worse is we know people there too. So watch what you say here. I know, right? I got to be careful what I say.

I have to say underrated for legal reasons. I'll say properly rated. I think they're pretty high. Wear them a lot. Is that a cop-out? Am I not allowed? That's not allowed. That's not allowed.

So properly would default to underrated then? Yeah. Well, for legal reasons, I will also say underrated. Okay. I mean, they do go with everything though, right? I mean, how can you? They do. It's hard to say something overrated when it works with everything.

So they do that thing where you throw them and they don't fall over. Oh, yeah. That was a hot thing on the internet for a while. You could just throw vans no matter what you throw them. They always land like souls down. They're like a cat. They're the cat of shoes.

It's exactly like a cat. I threw my van so many times. Once I saw that, I just kept event so many times once I saw that. I just kept throwing it. There's some physics magic. Dean and Alex are two for two on agreeance. Topic number three, overrated or underrated?

Hollywood. Overrated. Overrated for sure. Violently overrated. Yeah. In all facets. I'm just violently overrated. We were thinking about taking the

Mastodonics podcast there and trying to get famous. You guys should. Get to your corporate. I suggest trying New York first and then maybe Southern I like that build some momentum up on the East Coast come to the West Coast once we got that going

like a rivalry so you both said overrated though way overrated three for three. I guess we should have agreed to the first terms. Overrated or underrated?

Shake Shack. That's overrated. I also say it's overrated. Wow. I don't know. I'll just's overrated. Wow, okay, both. I don't know. I'll just say overrated just because I know it'll give Frank a heart attack.

I think it's good. It's a solid burger and a solid choice. It's just to wait how many hours when it first opened up, that wasn't. It felt like there was this trend for a while where it was like, okay, it's time time to be over hyping up in and out. And now everyone needs to hype up shake shack. Like,

was that a thing? Yeah. I think so. You know, it's like, it's like a Pepsi Cola rivalry kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I think, I think in and out is overrated too though. So I mean, I'm from East coast though, so I don't, I don't have the same affinity to it. Yeah.

Well, we're from the Midwest, so we don't have either. don't, I don't have the same affinity to it. Yeah. Well, we're from the Midwest, so we don't have either. So we, we don't have to worry about that. That's true. We don't have to pick sides at all. We have taco Johns. We have taco Johns and pizza ranch up in here. I don't even know what they are, but I want, I would rather have those. You got to make a Taco John's collab. We should, actually. You really should. I think you guys should.

That would be fun. I'd buy the shit out of that. They do have an interesting guy in the sombrero. I think they got rid of him, though. Oh, they did? I don't know. They've been really changing things up lately. We'll bring it back. I know Christmas time of year they have

Nachos Navidad. Yeah, Nachos Navidad is kind of a... Oh, hell yeah. It's like you got your Toyota-thon and your tap-de-honda days, and then right in the middle of there is Nachos Navidad. It's like the perfect mix of consumerism and cars and fast food and nachos. In the hierarchy of commercials, I think nachos navidad is probably up there.

Nachos navidad. I do forget the album. They hit the TV, the radio. Yeah, you get blanket coverage. Is that the commercial where it's feliz navidad? Yeah, okay. Everyone from this part of the world would know that jingle.

You guys are not familiar with Taco John's. We'll mail you some. We'll have to go check it out. Mail it ground through... We'll just send it through USPS right now.

You should get it in three months. Yeah, USPS. So that we get it when it's really, really old. Three to four day shipping is currently three to four week shipping. One to two week is 12 to never.

Yeah. Okay, so the bonus topic, the topical topic, most topical topic of them all, overrated or underrated double-stuffed Oreos? Double-stuffed. Oh, boy. I mean,

what do you think? I'm going to say overrated because I'm not a cream guy. I'm like a cookie guy. You put more of that in there,'m like i scraped that shit off but i eat it you know so i can have the cookies later i'm always like that uh i'm not a big fan of the double stuff

you're right as k said it's underrated because the originals don't have enough cream in them okay so that's i was gonna say is like i feel like i don originals don't have enough cream in them. Okay. So that's, I was going to say is like, I feel like I don't, I don't get Oreos that often, but my, my level has been calibrated to where like double stuff is the norm. Like, so when I get normal now, it feels like it's, there's not enough in there. Yeah. I don't like, I, I, I'm with Dean. I don't like the double stuff.

That's too much cream. That's the ratios off for me at that point. No, I think that's the proper ratio. So technically, even though me and Dean differ, the podcast and me and Dean are aligned. That's true. That's true. With your powers combined. I agree.

I mean, the Oreos are ergonomically unsafe, too. They're unsafe. They're too heavy at that point. Dangerous. Tommy, so what do you think? Did they pass? This is a pass-fail course. You know, it's close, but I think they did pass.

Okay. All right. Do they get a cool beans? I think we'll give them a cool beans, yeah. But we saved that for later. We'll decide. You guys are going to have to listen to the final thing to hear. We'll talk about that once you guys are off the phone

if you actually get the cool beans pass. Oh, man. As if I don't already watch the show all day. You'll have to tune in and find out for once. You're going to have to wait until Monday. Or Sunday if you watch it. Yeah, Sunday, yes. If you're in the First

Comment YouTube Race Club, then you're there at about Monday at 5.30, 6.30 p.m. Western Northeast South Dakota Central Time. Yeah. Alright guys, well, is there anything else specifically you guys need to get out about Kind of Fit, Kind of Fat

where everyone can catch you guys at and buy your stuff all that sort of thing yeah you can get us at kind of fit kind of fat dot com for what site kind of fit kind of fat underscore apparel I think twitter is kfk official tiktok is kind of fit kind of fat

yeah if you look up that not that we use it, but it's there. I do not know what it is. So pretty much just look up kind of fit, kind of fat, and you're going to find it. Yeah, you'll find it.

Right on. By this time, let's hope that that's at least the case now. Yeah. You're at least hitting the top of the Google searches for kind of fit, kind fat yeah it's really hard to find like the fifth page of google yeah you gotta make sure you scroll to page five with the google search yeah

the third one down juggles real yeah well we liked it was cool having you on and also just really cool doing the collaboration when uh you know as of recording this our shirt's actually coming out tomorrow so we're we're on the eve and very excited to get that release and out to everyone and but we've heard a lot of positive feedback on uh your version that you released and i think we're going to hear good feedback about ours and it was a lot of fun doing it. Yeah, no, absolutely. And I, uh, I'm glad that,

I mean, I know the, you know, pandemic kind of messed us both up for the Arnold, but I mean, honestly, if it wasn't for that, we wouldn't have gotten in touch.

So that's true. So let's, uh, I'll take that as a plus for the year. So, Hey, maybe 2021, we'll even see each other face to face.

Yeah. Oh my God. Oh yeah. I'll have to come to Northeast South. You guys bring the taco drums. We'll bring the double. All right. There we go.

Perfect. Sounds like a party. All right. Cool, guys. We'll check you later. Hey, thanks a lot, guys. All right, guys. Thank you so much.

See you. See you. Bye. Kind of fit, kind of fat. fat yep so what do they get i guess we'll give it to them there it is and that was cool beans that was cool beans an episode wouldn't be quite complete without it yeah and it's funny you know we we did this collaboration with them we had many phone calls many emails lots of communication back and forth yep we didn't know much about their stories so not really you know that was a bit there yeah that was a learning experience for us too i mean we know we i mean

we don't know their stuff yeah yeah yeah didn't know this oreo stuff no that's he's holding out on us this whole time yeah next he's i guess he wasn't one of the uh keebler fudge elves though no but tanner you kind of got me distracted um i just keep thinking about nachos navidad right now do you like nachos navidad i've never had that in my life i've never had a not yeah no but in the i'm just gonna hum the ditty so we're on the same page this is it where it's like it's the police navidad song but then i think that's like and it's like stop in at taco john's and yeah that's just navidad and it's it's nachos that use that have the green and yeah that's what i was gonna say we didn't specify that the yeah the nachos navidad the the tortilla chips are

regular color green this and this year was the 25th anniversary of it. It's on restaurantnews.com. Nachos Navidad. That is awesome. I would never order Nachos Navidad. Okay, here, here, here. Yes, I had a commercial here. We've got to listen to the Nachos Navidad commercial.

John's wants you to have a happy holiday. The Mexican way with Nachos Navidad commercial. People go... Taco John's wants you to have a happy holiday. The Mexican way. With Nachos Navidad. Lots of fresh-made corn tortilla chips piled high and topped with all kinds of delicious things. Nachos Navidad from Taco John's. I'm gonna wish you a merry Christmas. Whiplash and Taco John's are giving 25 cents of every Nachos Nav not a dog purchase.

Two cystic fibrosis. And they say Whiplash. That's a monkey riding. Yeah. Yeah. Riding a horse. Riding a dog is Whiplash. I mean,

if you told me if that just, if you told me if that ad was from 20 years ago or this year, I would not know the difference. Okay. I was going to say the same thing there. Cause that song, it makes me think of being three years old. me if that ad was from 20 years ago or this year i would not know the difference okay i was gonna say the same thing there because that song it makes me think of being three years old like before i had memories like that existed yeah um but also i don't know this was uploaded four years ago i don't know how old it actually is because i kind of feel like they still sort of use that they use i get i feel like i've heard that on the radio just like let this week like what i almost could

have said that verbatim i feel like that's completely ingrained here's the one for saying it's back one month ago oh there's no music on this one ah damn we'll never know what they yeah whiplash i forgot about whiplash yeah they don't use him anymore they've gone through they've gone through a pretty drastic rebranding uh somewhat recently they don't have they used to have like a mexican yeah like drawing of a guy wearing a sombrero like that that went through several iterations like from very cartoony to more realistic then they had like in their commercials you had the the monkey riding the dog around and now they're they have a a look that i would say puts them more in line with most modern

fast food right right right taco john's and course, for anyone that's not aware, Taco John's, they're known for their potato olays. Right. Which is, you know, like fry, like... They're the bomb. Like you would, a lot of times in grocery stores, it says potato crowns. Ah, right, right.

But then they have their special... It's not the right seasoning, though. It has the special Mexican seasoning on it. And that with the, of course, the nacho cheese side that you dip it in. Yeah. I love that nacho cheese. Every good tanner.

Nachos Navidad. Yeah. Wow. What's your go-to order from Taco? I'm sure we've, I know we've talked about Taco John's, but I don't know. What is your go-to order at Taco John's? I usually get the, I used to always get the meat and potato burrito the meat so that would be you know your burrito with your potato olays already inside

the burrito plus you still get the side of potato lays too but right um that or i also like me a grilled stuffed burrito too yep actually you know what they're pretty much the same thing they are almost exactly the same thing you know what i order when i go there if i don't go there often but i get a meat and potato burrito, beef, and then I get a grilled stuffed burrito, chicken, and then I get both. And usually I don't get a side, then I just get those two. And that is a solid meal right there.

That is a lot of food. They do also have one item on their menu that I think has a special name and everything to it. The six-pack and a pound. The six-pack and a pound. And I know we've talked about the six i think we have well i think we had it in an article okay yeah yeah yeah it's six tacos hard shell or soft shell you pick and then a pound of potato always yeah and like that's

that's a lot of food and do you go hard shell or soft shell i'm usually a soft shell guy usually yeah i think people are pretty my wife gets hard shells and i'm like why you have your choice like hard shells too i'm like they're letting you choose like heart to me i'm like hard shells is something you get if you like they're not if you're like yeah i guess i'll take it it feels like hard shell they fit one third the meat in like it seems right i'm sure they haven't figured out where they do the same but it just seems like you're not getting any meat in a hard shell taco and you know what my beef is on the hard shell you take a bite and sometimes like you take one bite and then the whole thing's just like obliterated it's like yeah it's like well that's not a taco anymore for humanity's gone here

we're now gonna eat like a dog off this paper i don't get it i yeah like know, they'll let you get soft shells. You know, you just have to order it. Yeah. Yeah, that's Taco John's. That's Taco John's for you. Feliz Navidad. We are deep into Nachos Navidad season right now.

Like, I could just, before you even played it, I could just hear the guy cutting in and being like, stop into Taco John's this season. You know, like. Wow. Didn't think we were going there today, Tanner. We did. And then being like, stop into Taco John's this season. Wow. Didn't think we were going there today, Tanner. We went there. Oh, no, we didn't.

Next week, maybe we'll tell people about Pizza Ranch. Teaser. Little teaser. I think next week we'll have to write that down to talk about. Pizza Ranch is worth talking about. First piece of follow-up, Pizza Ranch. Do we have any old news yes pizza ranch uh old business i mean yeah so next week you'll hear us talk about pizza ranch who knows what else we don't even know what else by the yeah do we no we really don't know nope and we won't know no Until the time comes. Should we hear? One thing we are certain on. Oh, the only thing that's certain.

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4.99 nachos navidad level it's but it's only available it only shows up during christmas yeah it's only available during christmas you can only support us at that level for one month and then we take it away i do like that idea I don't know about all the logistics behind it, but there is a... I'm pretty sure Tanner, the company that runs the marketing for Taco John's, is out of South Dakota. We probably should get in touch with them. Do you think they are? I think they are.

I think I know what company this is. Are they out of Sioux Falls? Yeah. I mean, we could really push some good ideas. Yeah, yeah. They'll be paying us by the time this is over. And our ideas will be paying them yes yes uh three dollar level is the lacroix level the six dollar level is the lift shorts level and then

the enormous just ridiculous level beyond that is twenty dollars and that is the lift platinum club and just to prove that billionaires do exist you can bundle and buy as many of those options together you can build basically you can build your own level yeah by like you can like go three of each yeah you can do three of it you can do multiples of them it lets you do that you can combine any uh one part of them you could make your own nachos navidad let's just sign up for a couple different ones and like whatever combination you get you could call it the nachos navidad tier yeah that like we allow that yeah own it uh swim hack was the first grand slam member of getting all four so it's kind of the swim hack grand slam

level now you could you could coin the nachos navidad level yeah usually the the the naming convention works that when you're the first one to do it, you get dibs on the naming. Right, right. So that's what's available to you. That's about it, I suppose, right? I think so. Okay. Sign up for our email newsletter, though. We have been kicking out quite a few emails.

Yeah, to keep everyone in the loop on all the new stuff hitting the webs. Tommy, where do they find you at on Instagram? You can find me at Tomahawk underscore D. Find me at Tanner underscore Baird. But instead of that, make sure to follow massonomics at massonomics