Massenomics Podcast - Ep.36: TERRIBLE IN A GOOD WAY

Episode Date: December 11, 2016

The Massenomics frat house is dead.  Luckily that won't negatively effect all of the other awesome Massenomics stuff we do.  We take a look into Yury Belkin's insane sumo deadlift technique and Zahir Khudayarov's insane Instagram posting.  Most importantly we introduce our first major sponsor to the Massenomics Podcast: StrongFit.  We have one of their sandbags already, and we have three more coming.  These bags are either terrible in a good way or awesome in an awful way. This week Tanner pulls fractional plates from his sack, and we decide if they have a real purpose. Watch this episode in full color video... Or check out the super-high quality audio version below... Make sure you LIKE the Massenomics Facebook page... If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2016... Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M

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That's what people want to know. We are here in the Mastodonics studio, the Dungeness studio. We're here on a fine Sunday evening. I'm going to start over. I hated that. No, leave it now.

Yeah, fuck it. So anyway, we're here. We have some sad news in the world of Masonomics. Our go-to keg place is no more, as Tommy's gotten all domesticated. Well, it's still there. It's still there. It's still definitely there. Can we still use it? I would actually make the argument it can accommodate people better than ever now. It's a all domesticated. Well, it's still there. It's still there. It's still definitely there. Can we still use it?

I would actually make the argument it can accommodate people better than ever now. It's a little bit cleaner. I opened up a whole other stall in my garage. Could probably get 50 more people in there. So depending on what I cut out in the beginning of this, the Mastodonics frat house is technically no more, and now it's just domesticated Tommy tommy's house just a regular

people house now just a regular old people i don't think that's anything too crazy no more no more like lawn lawn full of beer cans and keg cups and empty kegs while people are going to church across the street yeah that's probably best for everyone but the one thing i have found through three days of moving and cleaning is that one a house can hold in an unbelievable amount of shit just like you wouldn't believe what you'll find once you start moving stuff even even like you know three short years like what can turn up it's just stupid amounts and uh the other one is just being bent over or like on your knees or squatting down all day has given me the worst knee pain of my real entire life like no i've never just like my knees are achy like they hurt and it's just from like cleaning cabinets and bending over and squatting

down and doing stuff and holding it all day long has put me in a terrible place. Did you... You stayed there. They moved out. Why are you having to do all this work? Well, it's more like they moved out, but it's... You're the one that's still going to be there, though. I'm the one that's got to live there.

So it's got to be... I want to do it really nice. So it's getting cleaned. Coming up in the world. What are you going to do with all those spare rooms? Well, I've already moved my computer out of my bedroom and into the office area, you could say. It used to be old Flying Rhymes. Yeah, his closet bedroom.

You know, my bedroom, that was the birthplace of the Masanomics logo and some other cool stuff. So hopefully moving it down to the office, the feng shui and the creative juices will go with it. We can keep some good stuff going there. But, yeah, it is nice having separate rooms, not having your bedroom also be your workstation and where you keep every belonging you own. So, you know, little things like that. The fridge is clean you

know just just the basics so but it is kind of the end of an era it definitely is a little bit of an end of an era all right but it maybe could be the beginning of a new one one where i get stronger and more focused than ever before you sleep better sleep better you don't have have three dudes party until five in the morning yeah sleep better you know eat. You don't have three dudes party until 5 in the morning. Yeah, sleep better, eat better. I don't know, just do everything better. Now, we went over to the guy's new place last night. Much less capable of facilitating kegs.

So is yours still going to be kind of the keg one? How's that going to work, Tommy? Now you've got gotta negotiate that unwilling party yeah i don't know well ryan has a graduation party coming up that'll be at my house yeah we'll see after that i don't know yeah because before it's like well maybe everything wasn't perfectly clean all the time so if you have a party you know it's like it's just like yeah there's just a little dirt on that dirt yeah but now but now it's like, oh, I got it pretty clean. Like, do I want 30 people over?

Yeah, so we'll see. We'll see. I don't think it's the, I mean, I know for a fact it's not just the end of everything. It's not like I'm going to quit having fun. It's not like I'm going to quit having fun. It's just that it's just going to be just better. That's all I can say just better i just kind of i'm gonna miss the name the massonomics frat house though like that has a really funny had a really funny ring to it

it was really the massonomics apartment doesn't have as good of a vibe yeah you know going into the summer and fall was really hitting its stride too i felt like getting the massonomics members together like uh uh your other your other roommates that weren't necessarily heavily involved in the massonomics they got to me got to expand their friendship yeah they're they're still on the team yeah um yeah so so you they moved out and you still had to work all weekend on it that's well yeah i mean it was they did what they needed to to get their stuff out but just tommy and his fucking hydrants i know i like things clean can't help it so what's next you're getting married to what next week or kids i don't need to rush that uh a wise friend of mine he told me this one time i've heard

him say it a couple times but whatever number of kids you have now that's the exact number you should stop at that's that's the perfect number the number right now is right and that man was tyler that was me actually i i don't know that I invent I may have, but I don't think I did because I'm not that smart or funny. But it's definitely true. We have enough food eaters and fucking gas consumers, and you don't got to bring any more kids. I don't. You don't need to. We would hit peak everything.

Yeah, we're good. We've hit peak everything. Yeah, we're good. Speaking of partying, exceptional segue, we have a little bit of an article coming out. It should be this week, right? Yeah, it should be. You'll be listening to this on Monday, and it should pop out tomorrow.

Yeah, so tomorrow will be one of our Ask the Professor series, where basically... Say ask or ask the professor. All of them. All of it. Ask man. where basically... Say ask or ask the professor. All of them. All of it.

Ask man. This one was on basically binge drinking versus spreading it out throughout the week. And I don't want to give away all the science that Austin drops, but you'll want to make sure you check that one out.

Fundamentally, the question is, are you better off drinking two beers a night, seven nights a week, or just holding off and drinking 14 on Saturday? What if you do 14 on Saturday and 14 on Sunday? And 14 on Friday? That's a really good question.

There's a lot of different scenarios here. When I was coming up with those types of things, too, I found out that, like, all of the questions that I was writing towards austin on those was like all like even with the food it was like so am i better off just eating like a fatty kind of all week or just going fucking crazy on saturday or uh and there was an awful lot of drinking questions so usually a lot of people have those questions though everyone wants to know that stuff what's your policy tommy are you uh are you just uh like do you ever have like three beers on a weeknight no i don't the only time i ever will is uh we usually go through it's in stages but pretty

regularly thursday night is wing night and usually with that goes anywhere from two to four beers, you know, just while you're eating. Um, otherwise I'm not one of those guys. It's like, Oh, it's been a long day and like need to crack a beer when I get home.

Like, that's, I've never, I've never understood that concept. Like I get it. It's like, there's people around you want to like socialize and have a drink, but I've never been one to like,

be like, Oh, I really need to just release some stress. Let me crack this beer right here. Right. So that's not something I've ever had, I guess, a thing I've done. I treat that in a similar way, and I think the whole lifting thing comes into play where nutrition, you know, you don't, I might i might that's not if i'm going to

take in some crappy stuff in a given weekday like a couple beers probably i could serve those calories elsewhere yeah get something i'd rather have like half of a pizza yeah exactly it's like that's what i mean it's like i eat half a pizza do i need a couple beers too or yeah i'm already full yeah so but i i i would rather save it for drinking more at once usually you know i make something out of it you know like so you can't remember anything yeah you know you you you ruin most of your healthy relationships you know like you're supposed to be doing. I'm the same way. I don't, like I never come home and have a beer. So I always have 20.

So I'll basically, I won't drink for, you know, 7, 10, 14 days. And if I'm going to do it, I'm just going to really, really do it. I'm not going to half-ass this. No, no. I'm an adult yeah i mean i it's very rare that i'll have one or two beers at home i'd just rather not the rest it takes a lot of effort for me to drink like the amount of water that i need to drink in a day yeah so speaking of adding calories though i've just been on a crazy like going on a couple months now like ice cream has just been my thing like see i'd rather have that like i'd rather at night

i feel like i'm gonna need i think it's just to the point where after you do it long enough it like your body accepts it as routine and you just expect it because it just turns into like i need dairy queen tonight like i i think that's diabetes the beat us us. That and Ben and Jerry's. It's just been my thing lately. I have to have it. We actually were going to intervene because you've been getting pretty fat. I have been. Actually, I was looking because I weigh myself almost every day.

It was like a week ago. It was like the lightest I had been in like three or four months. I'm like, what the hell is going on? I feel like I've been eating a lot too, but it was probably just a downtime. Yeah. I had the opposite. I had cut my calories quite a bit the last month or so, and nothing really changed on this.

I didn't get any lighter or anything like that, but went and drank in Mexico, you know, so probably like 180 beers that week, and then came back, and i was like pretty thrilled that i still weighed i was like 293 294 i was like oh no shit great i didn't fuck anything up yeah and then like one day at home the next morning i get on the scale it's like 301 what the fuck happened so rehydrating, maybe. I guess probably. Probably.

So this is the first time I've been back over 300 pounds in a long time. Would you say you're finally a man again? I'm going to guess it's just because I'm getting so huge and jacked and not because I'm getting fat. Because you're on that good American food now? Yeah. Stuff that stays in you a little bit longer. Yeah. So yeah, that's that. i don't know what else guys have you guys you know so this is something i've been studying a little bit lately and this is the deadlift of yuri belkin

yeah like i don't know if you guys have seen this but yeah i feel like i've never really seen like after i saw him do a sumo deadlift where do i find this at after I saw him do a sumo deadlift, where do I find this at? Um, after seeing him do a sumo deadlift, like I feel like no one in the world. Yeah. Yeah. But that was the first time I saw it.

And I was like, that is how it's supposed to look like everyone else has just been like, yeah, they're doing a sumo deadlift. But once I saw him doing it, it's like, that is how it's supposed to look. It is absolutely perfect.

And there's nothing you can change about it. Here's a video of him, uh, deadlifting at a rock concert. Is that what that was? That's what they do at Rock Show. Deadlifting main stage at a rock concert. I'm going to go back and do this, but I might regret it.

But isn't it there? They have a band playing at this powerlifting meet. Like there's fog machines. There's a live band. And I think he weighs 220. Yeah, this is 921, Like there's fog machines. There's a live band. And I think he's going, he weighs 220, yeah, and this is 921, which is like just an insane. He keeps the most vertical torso.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Everything about it is perfect. I don't know. Some, I mean, someone could probably tell. I mean,

he certainly chalks up for a really long time. Maybe that's the key. That probably is what I'm doing wrong. I'd chalk up for a really long time before 921 i'd make a pretty hell of a production if i was doing it on stage at a rock concert i would too but that would only be because as soon as i grab the bar it's gonna get real embarrassing look at his legs his legs are fucking huge yeah they're thick so he's at 223 pounds body weight yeah like he's standing straight, his body straight up. And those knees lock out like perfectly.

That's crazy. It doesn't. And I think from what I understand, this is like only going up. Yeah. Do you follow? I follow him. Yeah, I follow him on Instagram. So he like almost doesn't have to do changes like hip angle at all.

He just squeezes that fucker up. Go back to his Instagram page that you're on. And he has a video of him in training. I think it was like a week or so ago. And the video shot more from behind. And he's almost completely upright. He just locks out his knees and the lift is done. Yeah, that first one right there.

How tall is he, do you suppose? He's not very tall because I know Dan Green isn't very tall. And he's shorter than Dan Green. Yeah. That's what I'm wondering is that because, like, I am in a very different position when I swim. Yeah, just look at this, though. The way he can get it.

Like, there's definitely some mobility that he's just. It doesn't hardly make sense. And I think that's, like, 920 or 940, I think. That's crazy. Once the slack comes out of the bar, he just squeezes his knees through. There is not a lot of movement. And the other thing is that's 970. 970, yeah.

Jesus. And he doesn't wear a belt either. Yeah, I was going to say, he's not even wearing a belt. Because from what I've read, he says it just gets in his way. Already, he's vertical. That doesn't even make sense. Well, he's already vertical. Yeah, that doesn't even make sense.

Like anyone that's not, has a harder time getting in that position, it's hard to even fathom how he does do that. And I've read things of people saying he has really long arms, but I can't, I wouldn't say he, I just, maybe it's because he has a pretty large upper body. I don't know, dude. His hands are almost like, the bar is only like three inches above his kneecap yeah he also does have for being a shorter guy he has a very wide sumo i mean he's out to the to the dumb but are to the weight yeah i probably what you definitely it's not like you could dismiss it oh he's short it's the only reason

he's pulling a thousand pounds because the same thing uh same thing, I think he can bench in the 500s and he can – or right around 500 and he can squat. It's with reps, but I think he can squat in the 700s too. Like right there next to Dan Green who is like – and Kevin Oak. He looks like who's the regular dude in the middle between them. And he beat both of them in the last – in the meet he competed against those guys. And there he is with Pete Rubish too. But fuck. That's crazy.'s uh he's a freak so you guys can you guys can find all these things on on um yuri belkin's instagram it's uh belkin underscore one that's spelled out underscore power um yeah it's pretty fucking crazy that's what I've been staring at. And what is going on with these legit trophies?

Those are made out of nuts and bolts. Oh, man, this won't translate for me. As long as we're talking Russian powerlifters, do you follow Zaheer on Instagram at all? I don't, actually. Just type in Zaheer, and I can't remember his last name. But you need to follow him. Is it Kudroyov?

There he is, yeah. On the top right here. Don't click on his posts yet. Have either of you ever read any of his posts? Oh, yeah, it's always like, kill, die, yeah. Kill, motherfucker, I'm coming back. You'll see people are, it's a popular thing now.

People like copy and paste his text. They put it under their post now. I think it's that one right there to the left. I mean, all of them are like that anymore. I think the caption is, I'm doing fucking motherfucking kill. Fuck you 550. You are nothing.

I'm fucking now. Grazy angry that with a G, I like drink my blood. Like with a lot of exclamation marks. All caps, too. The coolest part is it's just a picture of him. Leaning on the preacher curl. I mean, he brings so much intensity when you watch his YouTube videos like he is amped up to the max

click on his most where he's just sitting in the chair first thing I have to do is follow this fucking guy this one? yeah just read that one in his voice crazy comeback kill kill kill is he Russian though? isn't he like uh yeah i don't know actually i

think he's from uh finland says turku so is he turkish living in finland yeah there's there's something different with him or like his girlfriend is finnish or something like that yeah he doesn't look Finnish. And I think he squatted like 1,100 pounds maybe. Yeah. 1,200. I am fuck here today, son. Good Lord. With a bottle of nose tour great in his nose. But he's put out there a couple times that he's coming for 1,200 pound squat.

Because he was going back. Really? It was about a year ago. He was going back and forth between him and Milanochev. They kept breaking the record. And he's quite a bit lighter. I think he's more in that 270 area. I think he squatted 1050

or 1100 before. And it's good depth too. It's not like he's cutting it really high or anything. I always look forward to it now. too it's not like it's not like he's cutting it really high or anything no his poster i always look forward to it now i can't believe i haven't seen this until now yeah ah no it's not very good it's not very good come back every day crazy so they always say come back like i don't know

yeah like is he i don't see any i don't see any injury here that he's rehabbing yeah is that is that dan bell who is this um i don't know. That's someone. It's just another huge, huge bearded man. I like kill, kill, kill and help people.

Spelled P-I-P-U-L. Just like you would pronounce it. People. Sometimes I wonder if he's doing this on purpose because he knows it's funny or if it's really just... If this is like some sort of weird powerlifting Borat. Yeah. The Borat. because he knows it's funny or if it's really just if this is like some sort of weird power lifting borat yeah we're bringing it back that's fantastic he is uh yeah just search for zaheer whatever look for is it here with a lot a lot of letters after that

um he's got 32 000 followers so that's a good follow yeah yeah that's a really good follow jesus so uh oh guys we have a big news we actually have our first legitimate sponsor of the podcast um we've made a lot of jokes before about how we're sponsored by uh diabetes nike nissan has Nissan has had a cameo appearance. A lot of Fortune 500 companies. Chronic wasting disease. But no, we actually, this week's episode and a few to follow are sponsored by StrongFit.

You can find them at strongfit.com. But they make a couple of products aside from their seminars, which I, it's kind of on my, my bucket list is to go to one of Julian is Julian Pinot is kind of a Mr. Strong fit, but we're most familiar with their sandbags and we use them. Um, Tanner, you've pretty much suffered under the sandbag a handful of times. You want to describe what that feels like? It is funny.

You made that meme we had out a while back where it... Was it the last episode of... It was the... What was it? It was the big battle scene in Game of Thrones. Oh, yeah, that's right. I guess I don't want to say too much, but it was a big battle scene from Game of Thrones.

In which one is getting smothered. Yeah. And that's pretty much exactly what the carries with the bag is like. It felt like 100,000 men... It feels like 100,000 men are surrounding you and collapsing your lungs in on yourself. That's kind of what it feels like 100 000 men are surrounding you and collapsing your lungs in on yourself that's kind of what it feels like yeah but yeah it's just like um the breathing is so to do a carry you know a front front carry where you're kind of i'd call it hugging the sandbag is is a pretty common uh one exercise that people do with it and we've done that quite a bit and that's

what it feels like it's just so hard to breathe the whole time you're carrying it it's like a mental battle yeah it's it's so mental it's a lot more mental than other because even when we did it back we're like i'll dump the bag finally you know i'll drop it and i you i know that i wasn't like muscularly fatigued it wasn't like i wasn wasn't like I unable to take one more step or, or couldn't possibly hang on any longer. I just, uh, was a bitch,

you know? And that's, that's exactly what it is is you pretty much fight that quit the whole time. But, um, these bags are bad-ass. I don't know. They come in all sorts of sizes.

Well, we got a one 80, which is good. Um, which is pretty good for good, good for for us i mean i wouldn't want to carry a whole lot heavier than that but they sure go heavier um but they make them basically from a 60 pound bag all the way up to a 260 plus pounds um i see julian lifting one here that says 400 pounds on it. That's hard to even comprehend. I can't even.

More than double the size of the 180 that we have. I would just sleep on it. That's all I do. That's all that's good for. But no, the bags are awesome. They hold up really great. They're made extremely well. You know, we beat the shit out of ours.

It's thrown in and out of my pickup. It's been, we take it out to the track. We've thrown it down at the gym lots of drops too that's lots of drops yeah they have a video here too we we do some overhead you know what we have a lot of guys that are trying to press it overhead which is hard fuck yeah uh with that odd odd object and it's a sandbag so nothing stays where you like it's not a barbell yeah yeah uh but we drop it from there and it's like nothing even is happening to it they have a video here of them dropping drop testing with a 220 pound bag i don't know how high this is probably the worst part of this drop test would be the guy that is having to carry that up the stairs right that's all the

whole time i'm just like man that poor bastard. So this is a 220 pound bag. Yeah. 15 foot drop. Nothing. Doesn't do anything. Nada. But yeah, I don't know. They hold up really well.

I think unless you dropped it on like a fucking knife. Yeah. Something really sharp could cut it. But I mean like regular use, carrying it, dragging it, dropping it, throwing it. And these are not, I highly recommend go to strongfit. like um and these are not i i highly recommend go to strongfit.com but these are not like the types of sandbags that you're gonna see at like a ymc these aren't like the rucking style sandbags it's not the light uh these aren't like little 50 pound put a sandbag and walk up some stairs no you can't do anything easy with them there's

nothing you could do with them that's easy. Yeah, basically. Because just picking them up sucks. Yeah. You know? And we have a lot of stones in the gym too. So this is kind of a, it's somewhat similar to stone training, but you don't have to shred.

You know, you don't shred up your forearms every time you touch one. And it's a little less of a process. You're not moving mats down to drop them you know you could pick up and load the sandbag or you could just um you know get it lap it stand it um but there's it's yeah there there's all sorts of stuff you can do with it they're a lot of fun i've i've used them a lot i i hate them so much but um but they're they're they're a really really really good tool and if you want to tinker with stones, like it's a lot less fucking around to have a soft bag that you can, that you can lift instead of some big rugged hunk of concrete. So, um, you find all these at strong fit.com.

Um, also I would highly recommend if you want to Google search for a Julian Pino strong fit, listen to pretty much every podcast he's ever been on and you probably won't uh probably won't regret it so um but yeah that's it for uh for strong fit we'll cover a little more on that next week i'm sure i would recommend if you're going to use that maybe have a partner because the mental strength that it takes yeah because you'll quit yeah you just want to quit but if you you know if you're bad you know if you can go back and forth with someone it's you two people will go a lot farther each individually than they each would on their own you know for sure yeah like because i had it by myself for a while i think i had it

before did i have that bag well before i had started with mass and alex i think so i can't remember i don't know you had it and it was relatively new yeah yeah i think you might have gotten it like right around that time. But I couldn't, I basically couldn't do a fucking thing with it. And then you kind of see like, all right, this person could go this far. It's like, well, I could probably do that. And then you got it out a little bit. But yeah, they're great.

I highly, highly recommend them. I really like them too because they're sponsoring our park podcast so big props on that yeah we actually we actually approach them about it mainly because we dig the product so yeah um yeah we'll get a few more of them in and we'll do uh it's kind of a much tamer way to train the stones you know we've had a couple ladies down there um is it friday night playing with the stones but all we have is the 70 and then the 120 and if you're capable of like 110 pounds stone lift we don't have that yeah you know and it's just easier to hang on to a bag did they all get the 120 then all but

all but one alley was really really really really close did anyone try the 180 do we have a 180 yeah there's a 180 okay no we went to 180 and then a 200 we went straight to the 200 okay they didn't have a chance at the 200 yeah they wanted to try next time roll the 180 out though yeah it'll be a little bit better stepping maybe i'll just have them do the 180 bag yeah that should be easier at that point instead but what what about uh our next i've got uh my sack oh yeah i forgot about that we could do the we should probably get some sort of like really What about our next... I've got my sack. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. We should probably get some sort of really clever music for our recurring bit.

Tanner, what's in your sack? All right. What we did with Ryan last week since you were gone, Tommy, is he closed his eyes. And I pulled out from what's within my sack and set it in his hand. And he described what he was feeling. So does one of you two want to do that? Actually, both of you could.

I have enough stuffed in my sack today that I could put it in both your guys' hands. All right, let's do this. Okay, eyes closed? Yeah, closed. All right. Do I need one hand out or two? You can each put one hand out like that. But just wait a second.

It's a deep sack. Now, because I wasn't here last week, is this stuff lifting related or is this just anything? As of now, but I can see that we're probably going to run out of things to stuff in my sack. So we'll, you know, that could change. I'm hearing some clanging. Is this the new PlayStation VR? Oh, yeah. Surprise.

Okay. And now I'm going to place it in your hands. Are we each going to have our own? Yes. What do you guys feel? Okay, I think I know what this is just because I think you've told me or feel washers it feels like washers but I'm pretty sure that these are the pound or two pound plates yeah they are fractional change yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Aha. Who makes these? These are made by The Friendly Swede. You can find them on Amazon.com.

And what this set is, it's two one-pound plates, two three-quarter pounders, two half pounders, and two one-quarter pounders. So it's five pounds total. We just got these in to the gym and i don't know they're like they're like 30 or 40 bucks or something they're not very expensive and and now you can hit those good even numbers oh yeah so so my question you know i got them for the gym because they're cheap and whatever. Some people might like to use them. And because we kind of just buy whatever exists in the world. If it's a thing that you can have in your gym, we have it.

Right. So I wanted to get your guys' take on these things, like what you think their place is or if they even should exist. What do you think? Yeah, I think they should because, well, I mean, first of all, it lets you kind of check things. Actually be precise with your program. Yeah, if you want to take, because right now we have to go by five-pound jumps. So it lets you do that.

Otherwise, the other thing, too, is because we don't have a full set of kilo plates, this does let you hit the exact kilo steps of what you. Oh, that's true. It lets you emulate a meat setting as close as possible without having kilo plates in. Yeah, that was my two things that I thought. Number one, a lot of us do percentage-based training,

which doesn't come out to 400 pounds or 405 pounds or 410 pounds. We just round it to that all the time. But now it would give you the option to actually do what you're programmed. And it's probably not as big of a deal on the training days. I can see the biggest benefit to being like a heavy single when you can't tell when it's like, if you're benching, like I had the other day, like 335. I think it was actually like maybe 334 or 333, but I'm like, I'm going to go for the 335. But if it was, you know,

if I wasn't feeling quite right, I couldn't go to the exact thing rather than bumping it up or down five pounds yeah and and yeah and for training for a meat if you want to actually take those weights just like you said we don't have a gym full of kilo plates so now you you can still get to those numbers and the investment is minimal so very minimal yeah the green ones are kind of cool. Quality-wise, they're basically what Tyler said he was feeling. That's what they are, is they're giant metal washers. These could even be, if they would have been originally purposed for that and they just painted them and engraved them, that could be.

That could be exactly it. The paint will probably wear off pretty quickly, I'm guessing, by the looks of it. That does not matter to me. If it matters to you, you're probably listening to the wrong podcast. Tyler, what are your thoughts on, you know, our perspective is usually powerlifting, but what are your thoughts for these in Olympic weightlifting? I'm sure there's probably, I'm so reckless with the weights that i use like i it's nothing i do really ever makes any sense so like so so i'll like only go up in 20 pound

increments until i'm at like you know at my pr that's great radio we're just clanging metal on our microphones but uh but yeah it would be nice to i might get prs more than once every fucking nine months um yeah i think they'd be great at least you know hit a couple pounds instead of only jumping five you know like for my wife she just hit a snatch pr the other day. Was it yesterday? But for her, going up only 5 or 10 pounds, if that's really your only two options, it's kind of a high percentage of your... when the numbers aren't that high. Yeah, if your snatch is 100 pounds,

10 pounds is 10%. Yeah, 105 or 110 is a lot. That's a big jump. 5 or 10%. Yeah. Which is big. You know, that is. Yeah.

So this way, and then you can keep, feel like you're hitting bigger numbers and you don't have to. I don't know. I get that shock with Olympic lifting where when I'll add like 10 pounds on and I pull it off the floor, try to move fast, and it just feels like I put 75 pounds on. And it just doesn't move. just feels like i put 75 pounds on you know and it just doesn't move this way like i believe if you're working and you add two pounds onto the thing like you may be able to just do that two pounds two pounds two pounds and without really feeling the change forever you know have a 50 pound pr you're snatching snatching 700 pounds right um yeah no that's that's very interesting i i like i said though i just fucking pile weight on it yeah until i start missing and then i get mad

and act like a child like geared power lifters they you know old more old school power lifting a lot of them you'll hear them talk about how they basically anything less than a 25 doesn't exist to them like everything they're doing is either a plate or a 25 what was that here in the other days someone was saying like when we come up we just threw 45s on yeah you know it was 135 and then when you were strong enough to go to 225 you did that and then when you got to 315 you did that um probably not the ideal way to train we wouldn't recommend you wouldn't think you wouldn't wouldn't think. But I can understand some argument for these being a useful tool, and also I could kind of understand if someone said that doesn't serve much purpose to me. I mean, I could see that too.

Just man up and get the five-pound bar. That's a comment. That's what the take a lot of people would have on it, I think. Some of the things, i suppose this this one also doubles as a wedding band for tyler for me banana hands um i suppose there's like uh um i don't know like your program like those percentages do kind of matter so if you're going five pounds over what they're four pounds over what it is um i don't know stick to it try that first right yeah if you're going three pounds over every rep and you're doing 25 reps that day that's 75 more pounds and over the course of 10 weeks that's 750 pounds so maybe that makes a difference you know i don't know but for what

they cost they're yeah yeah you're better off having them than not yeah that that goes more to your point of we i just you know we just want to have all the things all of them yeah this is just another one of the things that's why that's why we still have those ivanko calibrated plates yep yep i actually was i have been putting the collars to use the way they were meant to be used for arm curls. They look great when you're curling with Ivanko calibrated kilo collars holding the plates on. And I feel good doing it too.

I'll be taking a trip here. So our next two, I'll be taking a trip here. So our next two, hopefully three episodes are going to be coming from the great state of California. Are you going to get gay married while you're out there? I think I might as well get, I'm going to,

I'm going to gay marry some legal marijuana while I'm there. But no, it should be great. I don't want to, don't want to screw the pooch or jinx it and announce the guests yet, but I'm super, super fucking excited about them. So after this week, our next two weeks will be pretty kick-ass, at least with some guests that I'm really, really happy with.

Not that I'm not happy about having you guys on every week. I mean, there's only so much we can do. We did almost fully replace Tommy with Ryan, though. Last week? You almost lost your spot. Well, we kind of just pretended he was you for a Tommy with Ryan, though. Last week? You almost lost your spot. Well, we kind of just pretended he was you for a while. Oh, yeah. Understandably.

His hair game, it's really what kept you in it was the hair. We asked him who the better looking DeFay is, and he kind of came to the conclusion that it just really depends on personal preference what more you're into. Yeah, I could agree with that. Did we have some questions from the hotline, Tanner? Yeah, we do. We had a little Q&A out on Instagram that I posted here just before we came in,

and I got a couple questions for us. A lovely shot of the home base yeah a really cool photo what it's one of the another one of those photos that does a good job of making it look even cooler than it than it really is that's what tommy's so good at yeah uh question one speaking of ryan he uh he got in on the questioning when are we getting a tanning bed? And I guess we were just talking about how we want all the things, but I'm not sure if a tanning bed fits into that. Okay, what about a spray tan booth then? I would be totally on board if we had a tanning bed at the gym.

See, I could see the gym having a tanning bed and people using it, but like you're about to say, the cleanliness thing would be out. Just wipe it down when you're done. Yeah, but people don't listen to that. But you're also going to wipe it down before you get in it. Yeah. So, like, it's going to probably happen. Yeah.

Yeah, you just say, well, just wipe it down when you get done, and you think most people would think that way, but I don't know i people would be like i'm in a hurry i also envision there just being so many pubes i was gonna say so much hair so much hair will be in that yeah god damn it larry again i mean i don't even really want to get a refrigerator because i'm worried about the uh yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't want a refrigerator no because people have brought that up and i'm always always like, I'm going to be the one that's ultimately get stuck messing with that, so I don't really want that.

I mean, I would maybe like to have that and put a few things in it, but I just know the path of it. There's still like an odd number of bottles that stick around in the gym with liquid in them for months on end. I never know if it's like... Someone who's in the room right then well i'm just always like god is someone using this or should i throw it in the garbage and i i don't know i don't know how you ever figure that out i don't here's what you do is you have it here's what we do at the crossfit gym because it's a huge problem there because people are in and out so many in a day and we just have they'll sit there

and if they're there for so long, they go to this shelf. And about every three to four months, it gets announced, it's written on the board, everything that like in this many days, all of these water bottles are getting thrown away. Then what happens is past that day, they're considered garbage and then i take them home and then i have all these water bottles that then i lose or leave there until until the water bottle cycle

continues um i do think though i i would love to have a tanning bed at the gym i tried talking my wife into getting one here i would imagine you could get a used one for not a huge sum i found one about 30 miles from here and it was used and it was like $400 or $500. I was like, fuck. What do the bulbs cost for those things? This adds up, but you could probably

I mean, you're not using it like a commercial one, so like, you could buy bulbs and probably, I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about. Just so you know. Hypothetically speaking, we're not using it less than the average tanning but you would use it way less than a tanning bed if it was in my house like it wouldn't be running all day so i'm sure if i bought bulbs they'd be good for like yeah a super long time and you know we're hitting this uh everyone at the gym's uh pretty fair skin you could say and we're hitting this

time of the year when it's dark for like 20 hours a day yeah i could i could take a little shot of vitamin d uh twice a week for a few minutes even that's true i'd be down for that so i tried talking my wife into it and she fought me kicking and screaming on it and it was going to be in this room actually so um so she we could use that as the light like we could just sit out in the corner question do you wear the goggles no i i know i've been to tanning bed once in my life and i did not wear i had i only had two phases in my life when i ever went tanning. Once I was like... One where you did the Playboy sticker? Nope. I don't know why I did it.

I was like 18 or 19 years old, and we had a lot of free time. And a friend of ours worked at the tanning bed place, so it wasn't costing us a lot of money. And we may or may not have smoked a little bit of pot during those days. So that's like what we would do after work, is we just get barbecued and then go to the tan barbecue and it was great because you'd have they back then they had like a cd player in the in the room you didn't wear headphones you know

because this was fucking you're old 14 14 15 years ago yeah so you'd like you'd bring in like your your booklet of cds and you'd put you would you put you put one in the little boom box and you um and you yeah it was quite relaxing yeah and then i did it again before i went to mexico like three or four years ago get that base tan got that base tan in um it wasn't very helpful so i didn't do it any of the other times I go on vacation, but yeah. So that's the answer to that. Ryan question two from big Shane wants to know, will there be new year's Pilates classes available? Um,

for anyone over looking, looking to turn over a new leaf going into this new year, possibly. Yeah. I'm going to say no to that one too do uh we can't afford the instructor at this time do any of you guys actually know what pilates is no i don't really i just does anyone know what in my brain i picture people like flexing with like a are stretching with like some type of like or something i picture those uh really fluff

really poofy socks that come up to your knees, you know, and then like spandex leotards. Okay, so there's like, my understanding is there's some sort of wacky apparatus. It looks like it's just yoga. Yeah, this is a yoga picture. Go to images. Here you go. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Developed by Joseph Pilates.

It kind of has that Chuck Norris thing. Total body gym. Yeah, press. Doesn't have the little handles and you're like on a board moving around. I don't like this explanation of Pilates. I'm going to find one that fits my... Seems too scientific. It's very thorough.

Maybe just images. See, just the... A special apparatus. Yeah, I want to see the special apparatus. Yeah, just go to images once and see what we do this we got there what the fuck is this like a range of apparatuses i don't even understand okay that that one on the left there middle left that's probably this is it yeah so this is what i see and it basically looks like some sort of jacked up nordic track it's like a nordic track meets the chuck norris total gym yeah

um which some people would probably say fitness perfection i that's all i want so that's what pilates is uh shane no probably not sometimes it meets that sex swing what the fuck this isn't real this isn't that is real that's a thing okay don't uh guys i highly recommend do a google image search for pilates uh and uh and then don't do pilates jesus christ yeah you don't need that don't need that in your life. So Shane, no. Nope, not going to do that. Not going to be available. Next question from Jake.

When is there going to be a Mastanomics-sponsored powerlifting meet? That, I'm taken aback by there being a real question, first of all. What the hell is this? I'm a little thrown off here. I guess let's shift gears for jake now i guess we have an actual conversation about things um back to reality i would say that's something that could happen eventually we've talked about it i don't know i can't throw out a timeline on that i would guess that we would have instead first like a super fun pretendo meet. Yeah. You know, that's.

We'd probably do that first. That will probably happen, you know, at some point. I don't know about the, you know, the actual meet that, that would be farther down the road. And, you know, there's that possibilities out there, but I think that super fun. Mock meet. Yeah.

That definitely will probably happen. Yeah. And that would be a thing where like really anybody that's kind of mostly on the team can sure come and give it a whirl. You know, a great excuse to get together with the guys where you're singlet for an afternoon. And an evening. And an evening. We should probably still have some sort of prize to the winner yet, you know. Well, we're all winners, though.

Everybody's the winner. So in this case, you celebrate it with a K. Speaking of that, I don't know if we had talked about this. We're now getting all our trophies set up down at the gym. Like, all the members have their trophies. And my trophy for the state strongman first place is for sure the weakest fucking trophy down there. Sitting next to Tanner's, like, three or four. You won the exact same title, like like was it three or four times and got like at least a decent sized

badass trophy it got downgraded and they downgraded it to a fucking like a show choir trophy my five-year-old son comes into the gym every once in a while. And makes fun of it. And he knows that that's Tyler's trophy. And he'll ask me, he'll be like, Dad, why does Tyler's trophy look like that? And I always get a kick out of that. And then he... Because Tyler does CrossFit, Jack. That's what happens.

And Jack's under this understanding that, you know, if me and him win trophies and medals together, you know, so they're ours. So I tell him that's why we chose not to win a trophy that day. So he knows that we didn't want one of those. So he knows that we didn't want one of those. They're so bad, too, that I was sure that they just brought us the wrong trophies. And all of the last five years in a row, they've had good trophies. Yeah, good trophies. It's a good trophy.

Yeah, yeah. One that's not awkward to receive. Yeah, one that's not awkward to receive. You can say it. One that you shouldn't be ashamed that you've won. And it's for a thing that's kind of a badass thing to win. You know what I mean? God, yeah, that's some bullshit.

I'm glad it's down there instead of in my fucking house. But we are getting a pretty good collection of medals and trophies in there. We got a lot of badasses down there. There's a lot of bad MFs. What about, you know, we put on our strongman competition this summer, and we gave out real similar trophies to the, not to the shitty ones, but to the decent ones they put out in the past. I don't think I've even seen those yet. They're there.

They're there. Mine and yours are both there. They're just the same. They look the same. They're all the same. I think there's only have like 15 of those exact same trophies up there there's only like one weight related like weight lifting related trophy that i think is made yeah most part yeah like commonly made that you'd go to your average trophy store and find bodybuilding so we've got a lot of other things but this one because it's like a lifting and moving thing they all look just like

that yeah so i wondered you know we've got some ideas of what we could give out for trophies next year yeah what what uh yeah we haven't talked about that yet had we on no so yeah so what i think we're going to do next year is we have a company in town. Maybe if I mention them on the podcast, they'll do this work for us for free. Totally tubular manufacturing. They have like a water jet machine that'll cut. That massages your back? It would massage the shit out of your back.

But it'll cut through like anything, like steel, rock, whatever, like laser precision. And we want to get the iconic Masonomics M done into like a 45-pound plate. For the first place, it was a 35 for second and a 25 for third. Yeah, something like that. And we hadn't decided if we'd want to go as far as also like, you know, painting them like a glossy gold and silver and bronze, which would be pretty badass. But that'd be the baddest trophy I'd ever won, for sure. It's just a matter of what you do with it then. Imagine if you just had that thing sitting on your shelf, though.

That'd be the coolest fucking thing. Yeah, it would. So I think that's probably what we're going to do next year. I mean, price-wise, it's not that bad. No. We'll buy cheap plates. Yeah. Yeah, so that'll be a cool trophy yeah for sure the uh other one that i think is kind of cool is you have those uh ivanko that 50 kilo yeah metal from uh really sweet an apf meat that i did last year uh the metals you know our 50 kilogram ivanko plate this it this, but then it is just an exact replica of an Ivanko.

Of that 50-kilogram Ivanko plate. And it even says Ivanko, which seems like it wouldn't be allowed. And it's a really heavy metal, too. Really? It's cool. Really cool plate. That one's cool. I always forget that that exists until I see it at your house.

I'm like, oh, yeah. Is that down at the gym yet? I did put one of those in there. Yeah, there's one hanging there now that I just put in the other day. I didn't want to bring too much of my stuff. I wanted to bring a few of my own things because I wanted to encourage other people to bring theirs, but I didn't want to just go ahead and bring all of my things.

Tanner's sixth grade spelling bee trophy. The biggest D-bag in the world. So now there's a good mixture of a lot of different people have gotten brought in their stuff so i brought a few others of my own now that i don't feel quite so stupid about putting in there still to this day the biggest trophy i've ever won was the city sixth grade spelling bee trophy fucking things like this big are you a good speller to this day yeah yeah i am at a sixth grade level at a sixth grade level you'd still do really good i'd still probably win that um but i think that probably belongs

down at massonomics too you know i don't know why not um what else do we got on our on our q a here oh i think there's one more question here, if I can get to that. Instagram's always changing things. They're making it hard for me to know what these buttons do anymore. Let's see what we've got here. All right, back to not serious things. Okay, fine. Our comfort zone again.

Those of you listening, you may or may not be familiar with big shane um but if you follow us on instagram you're definitely familiar with him he's the guy at the end of most of the videos i put on there he's the guy that's throwing down a flex a big a real big flex at the very end uh what's up uh another viewer wanted to know when will big shane's full posing routine be available to watch on our YouTube channel? That's kind of a joking question, but kind of serious, too. Yeah. You know, I could see this turning into an e-book and all types of stuff.

I do think we're probably going to see a lot of posing from Shane when we go to the Arnold. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I would actually love to see that. In a crowd of people. You know there was the kind of the internet meme a while ago of planking when people just faced down on the ground. I could just see this turn into a thing where you have Shane flexing in a crowd of people and people have to walk around him.

Shane would just post up in the middle of the line. So that could happen at some point in time. You could see a full... I would like to see a full routine of his. He could hit all his signature poses. He knows his posing.

I think he could probably chain a few together. I don't think Shane's posing is anything that he's done without practice. Oh, no. It's pretty fucking legit. And you can't watch Pumping Iron that many times and just not naturally absorb that knowledge. Did he say, was it on the podcast, or were we talking in person when he said

how many times he's watched Pumping Iron? Oh, I just assumed it was on the podcast. Yeah, it's like hundreds and hundreds of times because you watch it every day at once. Yeah, there was a stretch where he would literally watch it every day. Yeah. Masonomics podcast has replaced some of that time slot for him. Not completely, I'm sure.

That's great. So that was about the end of the questioning. You know, those of you that didn't write questions. Was there any additional comments there? That was it, I think. Well, maybe next time we post a question, any of you assholes would actually you know yeah anticipate your guys is lost though because did you guys know what the best question award uh what the prize was for this best question what is tyler are you familiar i was not okay you hadn't seen the post then do a little reading and see if it comes to you oh my

god i didn't even i didn't read that damn it so who wins the best question uh let's see i'm gonna go with jake because he asked one real question and it's kind of fun everyone's not gonna get a real realish question so we're gonna reward people asking real questions? Yeah. All right. Well, Jake, I'll send you a signed and used pair of my tighty-whities. Things are about to get very real. Used as in post-squat workout used. All right.

I won't wash them either. We also had a, you know, did you notice when I was in Mexico, your wife was inquiring about making sure she got you some shorts for Christmas? Did you see that? Yeah, yeah, short shorts was the topic, right? They're coming back, right? Oh, absolutely. Everyone's cool with short shorts here? I am, yeah.

Especially, you know, we could talk in the gym or out the gym but inside the gym i'm all about i do not want shorts on my knees no i can't handle it once you once you're comfortable in a pair of ranger panties there's there's no turning the world's your oyster man it's just when i was in mexico there's so many dudes wearing thongs. They've taken it to a whole other level. And Speedos to where me putting on some just stupid short shorts is not weird because I still had maybe the fifth longest pair of shorts. There was not many people that had longer shorts than I. You haven't gotten full European yet?

Not yet. I don't know that I could go that far. Yeah, I wouldn't be about a thong, but yet not yet i don't know that i could go that far but um yeah i'm not i wouldn't be about a thong but short shorts i i don't know they're so freeing and what did you what did you say it made what are the long shorts make you look like make you look like a dwarf if you're like if you're an adult man and you're wearing shorts below your knees unless it's like i don't know maybe like like gym shorts for sure. If you wear gym shorts below your knee, you look like a child. But I did. Like when I started working out, that's all I had was basketball shorts.

Yeah, basketball shorts. They run so long. Yeah, yeah. So that was what I – but then when I started doing CrossFit and shit, it was like, well, you can't squat in these things. They're always in the way and you can't – You just like wonder why am I buying all this extra fabric? Every month, my shorts, I keep buying shorts that are shorter and shorter,

and wear the long ones less and less. Yeah, we're bringing it back. So you're saying that Speedo is not out of the picture. Imagine, like, the range of motion you'd have squatting in a Speedo. You could probably tuck your legs behind your head, Tyler. I would not. I wouldn't be tucking anything anywhere. I would not want to be spotting anyone doing that.

It wouldn't be weird as long as both dudes were wearing speedos. Or maybe that definitely would make it weird. No, I think they cancel each other out at that point. Yeah, that's true. And it's just normal then. So, well, that's going to do it. We're going to gonna be what else first i gotta give the preemptive ask tanner if there's anything else he wants to talk about um i can't

really think of anything else that that was i don't have anything yet so i'll wait till we i'm not just gonna do it now i'm gonna wait till we really start to wrap things up so this is gonna be it for a couple weeks in the studio here. We'll knock out a couple episodes over the road next week. Yeah, you won't hear us. You won't hear Tommy and myself. Until after Christmas. It could be two to three weeks.

It could be, yeah, 2017. I don't want to get all our listeners to just cancel their subscription by hearing that. There's a lot of pressure on me to not look this up then. Well, let's put it this way. There's going to be people more interesting than us on every time. I hope so. So, well, that's going to do it for today. Thanks for listening.

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