Massenomics Podcast - Ep.74: The Strongman Showdown After-Show

Episode Date: September 5, 2017

This week, the guys recap the 2017 Massenomics Strongman Showdown from the World Capitol Of Hangovers and Muscle Soreness a.k.a The Massenomics Studio. Tune in and find out how it went, who may or ma...y not have pooped themselves, and all the other salacious details. Or check it out on YouTube for the full-effect: If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2020.. Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M

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Starting point is 00:00:30 All right, guys, we are live here in the Massanomics studio, a.k.a. the hangover and muscle soreness dungeon. Yeah. We are here about, what do we mean, how many hours are we? We're about 24 hours removed from the end of the, well, we are not you're a couple weeks behind yeah you're like two weeks you're like 200 hours removed or something from the massonomic strongman showdown out at the old brown county fair um this is our big recap episode of that um everybody pretty much you missed out i think everybody pretty much feels like shit at this moment yeah
Starting point is 00:01:06 yeah i have uh what's the most what are your sore what are your sore points uh for sure the tennis elbow thing that i definitely re-aggravated is the worst then my traps and neck and i don't know where the neck the traps i'm sure but i don't know why my neck probably just from my traps but yeah um and then a general general hit by a bus feeling. Yeah, for me it's just, I kind of had this SI joint issue about two weeks ago, and without a doubt, Strongman will re-aggravate that to the max. I feel like if you have anything that's a little in there. Yeah, really, really anything that might be a little hurt.
Starting point is 00:01:41 We were talking about it, like if you have any sort of issue from your neck down to your feet running with a 600 pound yoke it will expose it and definitely expose that yeah really like what unless it's maybe you have like a scalp issue that should probably we also had a few people eat a steel log with their fucking skull yeah that's true i got this little stamp mark on mine right here had my had my threw my hat on backwards the snap was there through the uh the log up and it came down just caught just the front of my forehead and it stamped me a little bit so that did that hurt or no it didn't hurt at the time at all now when i rub over it i mean it's a little sensitive but but yeah for me it was like my that si joint's a little sore again and then uh besides that i mean it's just like it feels like i had a hard workout yesterday nothing
Starting point is 00:02:29 too bad really tired from last night followed it up by drinking so much beer which is basically the best way to recover from really intense heavy training really intense yeah yeah there was a point last time like you know i feel pretty like loose and good right now i'm like god that's totally not what is supposed to be happening so i feel like i didn't earn this type of fluidity in my life right now yeah my uh i guess like kind of my traps but it's like some weird spot in the middle of my back like if you retract your shoulders where it's like ah that needs to be massaged or something is really sore in there and i i have that's the same thing and i have a feeling that i actually think it's probably from the stones like pulling the stones back there's nothing else that i've done that would everything else i'm kind of familiar with i don't know what the fuck made that hurt
Starting point is 00:03:13 so bad but maybe the deadlift well it's probably everything on top of each other you know like you do the farmer's carry and then you do the deadlift and then you do that so all of them together probably add up to that i have a lot of like little cuts and nicks and like sore spots on my hands too that i didn't notice at the time and now i'm like oh my thumb is kind of like bruised and let's give the camera for those watching on youtube a rundown of our atlas stone burns uh we'll start my arm. I've got there. Nothing too bad there. Other forearm is pretty gnarly. And then a bunch of, looks like, tears in my bicep and bruises. Tommy, you've got a couple doozies. Nothing too major, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And the scalp injury. Tanner doesn't have shit. I have a little tacky left on my arm. Tanner wore his stone sleeves. Gauntlets. Whatever, dude. Whatever makes you feel cool. Basically, he came away pretty much unscathed.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yep. My biceps are really sore. Yeah. Like, really sore. Yeah. We're going to get into that here. Should we dive right into it or do we want to do any sort of overview maybe we we can talk uh maybe we should do some sort
Starting point is 00:04:31 of overview or do we want to go through the events and then talk about the finer event finer points outside of the events or do that first let's do that let's get on a timeline and then we'll bounce around from there otherwise we'll never uh we'll never get anywhere. Should we start with what time you showed up that Saturday, Tanner? So Tanner, first off, Sean sends us a message in our group text. He's like, what time are you guys heading out there?
Starting point is 00:04:55 And Tanner told me he was heading out about 8.30. So I replied to that message. I said, well, I think we're heading out around 8.30 or 9.00. And Sean goes, why so early? Which means Austin doesn't know that we have to set all that stuff up, I, I think we're heading up around 830 or 9. And Sean goes, why so early? Which means Austin doesn't know that we have to set all that stuff up, I don't think. I don't think he was aware of that. Because when he gets there every year, he walks up and is like,
Starting point is 00:05:14 well, it looks pretty good. I don't know. I guess he's like, I don't know who did it. But, yeah. The fair volunteers really, really stepped it up and like 10 people within 24 hours prior to it messaged me all separately asking me what time i was going to go out there and i don't know if they're just like asking me as just a competitor thinking that that would be the only reason i would go out there yeah and not like that i'm set also setting everything up yeah but every
Starting point is 00:05:43 time i told them that everyone that's everyone's response. Like, oh, I saw early. Yeah. Except for like me and Ross. Right, right. We were like, all right, we'll be there. Yeah, right. It's like, well, because it takes a while, I guess.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I don't know. So then what time did you actually get out there at? 8.30. Yeah, yeah. Except I woke up at 3 in the morning and couldn't fall back to sleep, and I was wondering if I should just go out there then. I was like, well, there's probably still drunk people from the concert before that I'd have to mess with.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah, yeah. So I didn't go out at 3 in the morning. So we got out there. Everything got set up pretty smooth, pretty seamless. It went better than last year. Having a year under our belt of knowing some of the things to expect made a difference. And knowing the weather was going to be on our side too. That helped a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:31 That was a big plus this year. Yeah. That weather, basically the only way it could have been better is it was, if it was about 10 degrees cooler. Yeah. But by the end of it, it was getting pretty hot. Yeah. But there was a, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Like, otherwise it was perfect. Yeah. but there's a yeah like otherwise it was perfect yeah yeah we couldn't ask for it to be better so we got in everybody everybody came in all the all the uh contestants showed up larry lost his fucking competition shirt and see my thing on that is i purposely don't give anyone their shirt until the day of when like they get there for competing we have the shirts a week or two ahead of time, but we will not even consider giving it to the competitors until they show up because like four out of the 11 will come and be like, Oh shit,
Starting point is 00:07:15 I forgot. I'm sorry, man. Yeah. Like, Oh, you got an extra one for me. That was what everyone would,
Starting point is 00:07:21 you know, just write your name on the back. Yeah. Uh, uh, but so I didn't give Larry his until the day of, and he still lost it. And never left a 10-foot radius. And we thought maybe there was some sort of a pumping iron-esque prank going on,
Starting point is 00:07:36 but that wasn't the case. Larry just lost it in his own bag. That's how you know you have a lot of stuff in your lifting bag. You put things in there, and five minutes you think you're they're lost yeah um so but anyway everything pretty much went off without a hitch yeah yeah um we had uh same deal at rusty rocket mc the deal um had the national guard color guard there we had what was the how old was the girl saying 10 years old 10 years old yeah and absolutely just crushed the match yeah like i i would almost like make this bet that out of anybody ever doing an event you will not have a better national anthem singer than what we had
Starting point is 00:08:17 whitney houston is not alive anymore i don't know if you're gonna get anybody to do it better than this 10 year old yeah she was good right it was like the whole time I was going, I'm just smiling. Tanner really did pull through on this one. Because that with the color guard and stuff, I think everyone in the crowd at that point said, you know, last year they kind of knew what to expect, but there's a lot more people there this year and probably a lot of people there that weren't there last year.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I think at that moment in time they're like oh like something's going on here guys actually maybe are legit yeah like that's the moment where you like you're just kind of meandering around checking something out at the fair you stopped like oh a lot of people over here and then that that goes on and you're like whoa what the hell is this i think that is how half of the people came to watch it was well look there's a lot of people over there better walk to it. It's like, I don't know what that old stand-up comedian's bit, but it's like, man, white people will just stand in a line, won't they?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Without knowing what's at the other end. But, yeah, we had a really good turnout. We also did our starting lineups. I like that, too. You kind of took the time, did the homework, and built the resume for everyone. Yeah. Did you do that? Yeah. No, I, he didn't, wouldn't, he wouldn't know those things. I gave him the list of, you know, everyone. And, uh, which was kind of cool. Everyone's credentials was like, wow, there's a lot of credentials.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So it was cool. Yeah, it was like I mixed in power lifting and strong man and everything like that. But it's cool. Like Larry standing standing there like ready to get announced and they're like he's competed in over 15 strongman and powerlifting competitions and has multiple records and multiple weight classes and you know it's kind of cool or like greg greg wagner gets ready like greg's credentials people were like, what the fuck? They start rattling off because squatted 850 pounds. And he's in the powerlifting hall of fame and has finished third in the world. And everyone's like, I don't know what that means. But that seems serious. If the people with the Frisbee dogs next door,
Starting point is 00:10:20 if their dogs were the third best in the world, people would be like, oh, really? We're getting a real good show here yeah so so greg did finish uh third in the world single ply ipf in 2009 that's not in his weight class so that would be it i don't know if the weight classes had changed yet at that time so it might have been they were different than yeah i think so it would have been like 275 and under i I'm guessing, is what he was in. But yeah, he was third in the world. He was terrifyingly strong. Yeah. Greg walks around strong.
Starting point is 00:10:52 He just walks and you're like, man, that guy can do some shit. Yes. So that thing was cool. So everyone got to walk out to the crowd and give it a little wave. How many people do you think were there i can't even quantify what i normally try to do is i start count a section i'll count to like 25 people get an eye on what that is try and extrapolate that there was many hundred yeah i i there was like about 400 to a few people and a couple people were like oh there's more to me
Starting point is 00:11:23 that seems like the low end yeah just just the larger bleachers, there was like 60 people on each. So there's about 150 people in that section, which was like one-sixth or eighth of the actual coverage. So five or 600 wouldn't be all. That's what I thought was closer. Five and seven is my guess. And a lot of that was standing room only. If there would have been more bleachers. There would have been more people.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Like, if we would have more bleachers. I do know people told me that they kind of – there's people left. Because they couldn't see. Right, right. I don't blame them. Who wants to stand for – I mean, you're out at a concert.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So who wants to stand at two hours for an event where the people aren't even on the stage? Yeah. The limiting factor on our audience is still just the venue yeah being able to have enough decent spots for people to watch and see yeah and then we uh so we we rolled right into the well before we did the the whole starting thing we had the newspaper come out and they did a live walkthrough which i did actually go back and watch that that actually was kind of funny it was yeah yeah it was cool i think that got a lot of people like saw there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:12:29 comments on it so that was kind of cool um anyway we started with the yoke yoke and sandbag medley that i hadn't ever practiced on this yoke like and I don't know a whole lot about training with the yoke I just knew that seems heavy 600 pounds yeah and so when I was hearing people talk about strongman training they say like let's say you're training for a thousand pound yoke you don't want to train with a thousand pound yoke a week before right the competition because it'll take too much out of you better off training light well i hadn't even had time to mess with it until maybe a week ago and i was like i don't know what 600 is but i don't want to find out until i have it on my back sometimes that's almost better
Starting point is 00:13:16 it's just like like i'll just feel what it's like then you know on certain events i was like it's just gonna be what it'll be yeah Yeah. So we went through that event. I think everybody did better at the yoke than they had expected. Everyone finished the yoke. Yeah. Yeah. I was surprised. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And no one took, like, an extremely long time to finish either. No. The yoke was relatively fast for everyone. Yep. Yeah. And then, yeah, nobody got really beat up up Grayson got beat up a little bit on the yoke it yanked him around a little till he till he reset but but then the bag was where having experience with a bag goes a long way I think yeah and the other thing even having
Starting point is 00:13:56 experience with the bag is one thing but doing the bag after doing the yoke is a completely different animal than just doing the bag for me when i bent over to pick that thing up my butt and hamstrings were on fire like they felt like they were about to just explode and i almost felt like i kind of needed to take a second i even struggled like lapping the bag because it was just it all felt so out of sync yeah yeah that that was if you look at i don't know who all all probably was the fastest with the bag. Probably Tanner, me, Gary. Well, I wasn't because I took a dive.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Oh, yeah, yeah. There was a few people taking dives. But there was a lot of people that got the bag and started moving and then realized pretty quickly that they may not be able to hang on, so moved faster. Yeah, to try and get to it. I think there was four or five body slams of the bag. Just pile the bag into the finish. And it's fun because in training, you would just set it down.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah, you would drop that. When it's a competition, ain't nobody just dropping it. Like, oh, I'm losing my grip, I'll drop it. Everyone takes it to the ground when it's going to drop. Just laying out with a 220 pound sandbag so our strong fit sandbag took one hell of a beating and stood up to it yeah i was just waiting for that thing to go down and go yeah the sand was gone it's like well we ruined that one i literally like on a you know as much as you could sprint with a sandbag you know on a dead run of it
Starting point is 00:15:21 like all two directly on it like a dive like belly slam yeah you like shouldered into it right into the fucking ground but so did uh grayson yeah you uh larry did too jake did jake did i don't think larry did oh yeah that's right yeah jake yeah larry with the bold strategy of larry also actually i think has if i look at look through the order of competitors the amount of people that have done a lot of bag carries in general yep like larry's probably near the top like yeah he does sort of play with that a lot yeah yeah and um larry picked that fucker and just took it right to his shoulder and i'm like oh yeah and we had talked joked about it last week and i was like i mean if you it there fast, then you can move really fast.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So when I got to it, I just, I went to pick it. I had it on my knee. I lifted up, had it on my knee, and I was like, we're going to try to go to the shoulder. We're going to go all the way up. If it doesn't get there, we're just going to hug it wherever it is, and that's where we go. And it got on my shoulder. Then you can just, you can actually sprint instead of waddle. Right, right. And then. on my shoulder. Then you can just, you can actually sprint instead of waddle. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And then, you can really take real strides. And so I really went and fucking got, because I knew how fast some of the guys were. Yeah. And I wasn't super fast
Starting point is 00:16:34 on the yoke. So I got to the end and I fucking was at a full sprint. Well, I think you were still pretty fast on the yoke though too. But I knew I wasn't as fast on the yoke as some guys. So I went after it
Starting point is 00:16:43 and then I got, dumped the bag right at the finish line. But I had a full head of steam. Yeah, you did. It was 310 pounds of me and 220 pounds of bag moving full speed. And then we just both tried to stop at the same time. And there was a fucking child on the other side of that rope that almost ate it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Well, that child's funeral is tomorrow. Sad to say. I thought it was going to be like one of those things where Shaq jumps into the crowd getting a rebound and everyone just bails out. I stopped just in time and then gave the kid a high five which has to be the
Starting point is 00:17:18 single riskiest high five that kid ever got. Like oh god don't kill me. Alright I'm sorry. That was good. Everybody did pretty good in that event yeah you won that event yep and then how close was the time there on like those top three well by you actually won by quite a bit because you were 16 and then um second and third were 21 seconds and that was was Jake and Greg were real close there, and I was 23 seconds was next. So that dropping the bag cost me a couple places, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:53 because, you know, that second and a half where I was, like, laying down. Then you're, like, laying down. Damn it, damn it, damn it. Trust me, Tanner. I fucking know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been there. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But then we had, you know 28 seconds 29 seconds and then is that can i see it quick yeah yeah i don't think we only had one guy not finished i think is that we just we had one guy that uh oh yeah jaron couldn't yeah he did move the yoke pretty well yeah uh this Jaron's first competition ever, and he's pretty new to all this stuff. Yeah, it was just a lot of heavy stuff probably. I don't know if he had just props. Certainly not real familiar to all the things. Yeah, and the implements probably weren't very familiar. So it definitely takes balls to go out there with like 10 other guys that maybe not everyone's an expert,
Starting point is 00:18:46 but everyone knows a little bit what they're doing. So everyone finished except him, so that's pretty good. So we move from that right into the farmers carry. Farmers carry. We can talk about the mishap. I just got to say with the transition now going between these two, these events run fast, and we run a fast exhibition show here. We run an insanely fast show.
Starting point is 00:19:15 For anyone that hasn't seen our thing and has seen a Strongman show before, it is not like that. Yeah, so we're talking five events start to finish. This whole thing, I mean, counting like the National Guard, all that, we're talking about two hours-ish, right? Counting, including the starting lineups and the National Anthem and stuff, that was exactly two hours. So it's a two-hour show.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, from event to event, it was 105 minutes. It's like you're going to watch a movie. Yeah, and so that first one got done, and my lungs were on fire after that, along with my whole body. And then it's like all right into the next event it's like already don't we get time to not be dying well i drew first that first event we drew cards for order and i had to go first and i came over and a bunch of people asked me how it felt or whatever and i was like i don't know how I am so tired after 24 seconds of work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Like literally 24 seconds. And I want to go home. And I'm like gassed, you know. But it's like, it's a sprint. But on top of that, it's a sprint that's like crushing you. Yeah. And you're doing everything you can to not drop down to the ground. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And then we, so we got into the farmer's carry, which Tanner in all of his meticulous planning yeah double and triple checking and he has i mean we have charts we've got you can see spreadsheets here for t-shirt sales as well as event to event scoring and every single possible scenario was covered and somehow we were like one plate short yeah of being able to load the farmer's handles two at a time forgot two plates i calculated the plates for the yoke and was thinking it was also the same plates that we needed for the farmer you know yeah for running two sets of farmer's handles at the same time yep and it wasn't and they came over and like as soon
Starting point is 00:21:02 as they said something like they're like oh like as soon as someone they started to load up and they come out came over and someone said to me uh then i was like oh shit i knew right away i was like damn it that's something that i forgot it i forgot a plate there was a reason i woke up at three in the morning do i shouldn't have watched tv so i went over there and i was like well what what can we do with like 25s and 10s and fives and stuff like that and i chime in right away and i'm like i'm like let's just make it lighter let's just use less plates and they're really like there wasn't even an easy combination to make it just a little lighter it wouldn't really work so we decided to just run one at a time which
Starting point is 00:21:45 as a competitor i think everyone was happy because of how fast everything was going if that would have went twice as fast that would have been really fast into the car into the deadlift but it still would be would have been cooler to watch because there would have been if you look at the times here there would have been some fucking hella good races yeah see and i think what would have happened is the people going against each other would have pushed each other yeah and so i think you would have found like people would would have had like a tighter pattern in their groups you know like yes i think so too or maybe you would have seen some mistakes yeah because like because you're tripping on the other person yeah like pushing
Starting point is 00:22:26 beyond like what your balance is or whatever at that point in time uh so we had uh all 11 guys go and how many finished the course um four four did not finish the full 100 feet down and back and so so we had seven guys that did finish it um and it it was heavy but something about farmers carries it seems like guys in competition always do better than in training turn that on yeah i watched several people do way do way better in competition when he trained it he was terrible at it yeah he couldn't finish it and he he got second. Did he really? Yeah. And was fast. Yeah, he got a second. Yeah. Yeah, he did it in 19 seconds or something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Wow. So talk about your strategy. Yeah, so I've had the tennis elbow thing that I complain about every day because I'm a wuss. So I took it real easy on my grip, and I was like, I don't know if I can hang on to this fucking thing. But also, I am a super bad deadlifter. And this is heavy to me. 530 pounds to pick up.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I was like, so, and actually picking it up the first time wasn't near as bad as I expected it to be. It didn't look bad. And it didn't hurt my arm. So I just fucking dug in and hung on. Most of the guys I think were ready to drop it when he got to the other end to turn around oh you know what i mean i think that and but i was still pretty locked in so so i was the last one to go so everybody else had gone dropped it at the end and then and then come back and i was like i'm not fucking putting this thing
Starting point is 00:24:03 down because i who knows one like i may take some time to shake it out and so it's like so i just take time yeah so i just i got there jade told me i was across the line and i just turned stayed on and turned around in the crowd like they were like you could tell they were like oh wait that was a fucking option yeah yeah um and then though that turn because these are longer than the other ones yeah so i saw the video my wife took and now after that turn i'm fucking they keep going you start to walk straight and they're still like wanting to turn it's like you almost need to only turn them a little bit yeah start walking yeah um made it without putting it
Starting point is 00:24:43 down um wasn't the turn does cost me some time you still got third yeah fat third fastest yeah time yeah you don't you don't think you could have gone faster if you would have set them down or do you think no i don't believe so yeah i think that was your fastest turning around took me two to three seconds probably and i think stopping it turning around i mean one shake of the hands and setting up, you're there. You beat Greg. You got third. Greg got fourth.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You beat him by one-tenth of a second exactly. Really? Yeah. Yeah. One-tenth of a second, which we'll find out later that makes a difference. Yeah. Tommy, you made it 77 and a half feet. I would like to think I also had the award for picking it up
Starting point is 00:25:25 and putting it down the most number of times. You did, I think, didn't you? You did it like five or six times. Oh, yeah, and I kept getting ahead of myself. Like there was a couple times where I picked it up, and before I was standing, I was already thinking, let's move, and I wasn't quite set and locked in right. And then I have to set it down again right away.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And it's like slow down here, and then once you do that, you'd be good again. Grayson made it 50 feet. Did he have to pick it up several times, or how did he do it? See, he went down to the end, because that's the end. Yeah, he made it one way. I think he maybe dropped it once or twice on the way there. How about Larry? Because he made it 90 feet.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I don't remember that. So he was that close to the end. Larry, I think, dropped about, I'd say at about 70 feet, and then I think it took him like two or three more picks to get it to 90 and then so then i think he was pretty smoked see what would have been interesting had we been racing is you and greg would have been going head to head oh really so that would have been and he would have set it down and you would have turned yeah and that would have been one hell of an interesting thing to watch that would have been cool and you would like you would have been like possibly like
Starting point is 00:26:28 veering over into his lane like that greg wagner is not a guy you want to be in the way you don't want to veer into his lane yeah uh so that and i think i would have been gone against eve and i i went eight just under 18 seconds and he was just under 20 seconds so it would have been a tight race a good one to watch too so that would have been cool there would have been and those would have been the last two yeah you know there would have been a couple really really exciting moments there yeah and then um but that was that was that that was but that moved so fast again it was yoke and then to that very fast 11 guys through like yeah just like frustratingly fast as a competitor where you're like slow down
Starting point is 00:27:11 guys and it's not even like you know sometimes you do this stuff and between like turns that one person's like waiting so long to psych themselves up and going through a big chalk ritual yeah adjusting like there was no one doing that It was like the thing was set up and the person's already there waiting. Yeah. Because we knew we kind of had the on-deck routine there. So we knew you were next. So everybody was ready. We have enough people in place that like there's never any lag.
Starting point is 00:27:37 No one's ever like, oh, it's my turn. Yeah. Like everyone, you know, we do a good job of, or we have people doing a good job of keeping it rolling like the next guy up is kind of out there getting ready as he's going another thing about someone doing better ryan the one time i practiced with him he picked it up and carried it like five feet and dropped it and then he quit for the day yeah and here he made the full 100 feet yeah 35 seconds or you know yeah i don't know we we practiced it like earlier in the about
Starting point is 00:28:06 a week ago and we got up to probably 80 of the weight we were using and he's like yeah it's really heavy but it doesn't feel too bad yeah and yeah i mean he had a good day on that eve flew and then when i practiced with him he made it it about 70 feet and was unable to pick it up again. He was failing. And here he did it in 20 seconds. That's the power of the people. Then we went immediately into the car deadlift, which I'd say this was the soul sucker. which I'd say this was the soul sucker.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah. Like, yes. Like it wasn't because the car was stupid heavy. I don't know that when I think about it too. So we talked about this last night, the car last year was a lighter car, but it was a hatchback. So we feel like the weight was further back.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Also that, that hatchback was shorter, which meant I had a shorter wheelbase. So when you're picking it up in the back, you're not, you don't have this long angle like you do on a mid-sized car. So I think that's why this Malibu felt lighter. It did feel easier. And we're all stronger, but we're not all that much stronger. We also did talk about, though, there wasn't a tire flip for, yes.
Starting point is 00:29:21 You didn't do 20 tire flips before you jumped into a deadlift. Right, that makes a difference, too. Because the tire flip is tire flips before you jumped into a deadlift. Right, that makes a difference too. Because the tire flip is a similar event like this from a fatigue standpoint, I think. Yeah, it's just go until your shit falls apart. Because these two races that we did, event one and two, aren't like an extreme fatigue. They're more like just a sprint and you're like, oh, I'm gassed. But I just, give me five minutes to my heart rate like yeah to catch my breath but like the tire flip or the car deadlift they're not like that no we went through so we started
Starting point is 00:29:53 the car deadlift and grayson was near the beginning yeah he went second the first guy struggled and wasn't able to get a rep he He did come pretty close. He got pretty close. Yeah. But Grayson got under that thing and just started, like, snapping them up. Pop. Pop. And he got up to, what, like, 16? 16. Last year, 15 won it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:13 So Grayson puts up 16, and we're all like, fuck. I also think this year we had it judged more strictly that would have almost encouraged less reps because last year there was more like going really. Yeah. Like a constant movement. And this time it was more of a definitive, like good rep. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:35 As a matter of fact, I think he would, he would count and say down. Yeah. Count and say down. So there was like a lockout second. So you couldn't get in like maybe your perfect rhythm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Which is hard to do anyways with the car having shots and shit. Yeah. Like if you're like, I think Ryan did it a little bit where he would, he would bang it down and he would just like touch and go almost. Yeah. He was keeping tension on it the whole way down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You'd have to. And I think the couple of times that it hit down and came up, like you'd start moving it up and it'd come alive. So, but yeah, he banged out 16 as the second guy to go so everyone's like whoa damn well then the rest of us are like fuck that means we have to fucking deadlift a lot yeah like this isn't gonna be something we can go and crank out six right there's a big difference between like a five to ten rep max and like uh 10 to 20 rep max yeah like yeah if you've ever done performed that like in the weight room on say a squat or a deadlift would be the two you could compare it to go do it yeah
Starting point is 00:31:33 go do a 15 a real max where you're like can't you stay you get one and then you're like all right get i'm gonna stand here for five seconds and i think i can grind one more out and you get that and then you're like oh fuck i i can i can wait five more seconds and maybe get one more and literally go until you can't. Do that to a 15. With about 90% of your max on the bar. Do that to 15, and you'll be dead. You'll be like, well, I'm done working out for the day. We started moving through.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Tommy clicked out 11. Yeah, you went third and got 11. Were you pretty happy with that? Yeah, I mean, the most I'd ever, like, we practiced that one day, and it was just a lighter car. And a lighter car, I did five, and I'm like, okay, they said this car is heavier, and that five at the time was the most I'd ever done.
Starting point is 00:32:15 So I did 11, and I was like, yeah. Because didn't you say, like, before you started, you're like, all right, I need to get at least five or something like that. I mean, I was hoping for, like, you guys said this car was heavier, so I'm like, I better get at least five. But I felt i mean i was hoping for like you guys said this car was heavier so i'm like yeah i better get at least five but yeah it i felt like i was really getting in a groove on there so did you when i can't remember when you hit 11 was like time up or did you get to where you just couldn't go anymore at that point time was had taken i i had really slowed down on them i was i was taking probably five to maybe even 10 seconds on the last few
Starting point is 00:32:43 and then um yeah by that point, I was out of time. Because there is differences in the way people will do that, that some people will, like, almost go until they can't anymore, and then they just physically can't pick one up anymore and say there's 15 seconds left. And you'll see some people that will literally, like – And I was kind of trying to be cautious of that because I know, like, in the gym, if I have, like, a really, really heavy deadlift day,
Starting point is 00:33:05 like the type of days you only get a couple times a year, and I, like, redline on that, I just can't come back from that. Like, once my back has, like, been blown out completely with just, like, fired up like that, there's just no coming back for me. So I try to be a little cautious there. But, yeah, I mean, you're kind of going for it anyways. Yeah, that makes sense. Then Larry went after you, and he banged out 16 again to tie for the lead.
Starting point is 00:33:27 What did Big Jake do? Dylan did 12 next. And then after that was Ryan. So Ryan was someone that we knew was probably going to do really well. And his mark to beat was 16. So I was like, he's going to do 20. I was pretty sure at this time that the like, the mark for him would be 20. And that's what he did.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And I can't remember, could he have, like, did he go to the max time limit? Or where was he? He didn't tap out. Yeah, I mean, he was at the end. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if he had any more in the tank either. I think the only way he could have gotten more is if he would have maybe
Starting point is 00:34:02 gone a little faster to that middle stretch. He was nearly out of time. But he wasn't in a very good mood. The crazy thing is, though, that's a deadlift every three seconds. Was that a minute time limit? Yeah. I mean, that's a deadlift every three seconds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:13 That's a lot of deadlifts. And it's a deadlift at the top where it's, like we said, it's like it takes at least a half a second. Yeah, you need a down command. Yeah, right, right. And that was impressive. 20 was good. And Jake went after that and got 17. He's another good deadlifter.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Then Eve, another good deadlifter, hit 15. Think about it, though. Eve is a very, very good barbell deadlifter, but this is slightly different. This is a different movement. It almost has some sort of a backwards pull, like your hips forward. It's like a slight hitch is almost required yeah for me once you break it like those first three inches you can really like it just feels like load up your quads and almost like leg press into it yeah it has more elements of like a squat or a leg press than a regular deadlift yeah yes for, for sure. My glutes got really, really hammered more than they do on a regular deadlift, I think.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Then big Greg. Greg fucking crushed it. Yeah, Greg got 22, and his last one. He's like, Greg is at the top. The crowd's going nuts because that is a fuck ton of deadlifts. His mark to beat was 20. Mark to beat was 20 because that is a fuck ton of deadlifts. His mark to beat was 20. Mark to beat was 20.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Gets up to 22, right? Yeah. And he's at the top and he gets it locked out. He's all like tongue out screaming. Yeah. And I was like, that was like, man, that is some man shit right there. It did look really cool. And then he like fell over against the car and I was worried that he was dying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Well, Jade was a judge. I mean, as you should with anybody that's done 22 car deadlifts. Jade was a judge, and he said, I didn't know if he was going to get up because he was really purple. Yeah. And he was down there for a while. Yep. That was impressive.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It was. And then did you go? Then I went, yeah. I I knew I would probably do well on it so when Ryan did 20 I was like damn it I think I can do 20 like that's my thought was seriously this like I'm pretty sure I can do 20 but like I know what I'm gonna feel like if I do 20 I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do the last. You know, like, that's what I was seriously concerned about. And then I was also thinking about, you know, total points and stuff. I was like, Greg's going to waste me on the log.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah. You know, so I was like, I need to basically beat Greg in order to probably have a chance to hang. Yeah, yeah. So I really wanted to get hang. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but so I really wanted to get 23, but I, I did 10 really, really easily, like in probably 10, 15 seconds. And then I stopped cause I was like, all right, I'm going to not red line, you know? And then I did like three or four, I got to 15 and I did that up to 20 and then I had two left and maybe like 10 seconds so i got 21 and then they're like five seconds left and i had to start that last one faster than you wanted way faster than i wanted
Starting point is 00:37:11 to and i kind of got the lockout just i think maybe like a second before so i tied them on that and then how about your improvement from last year last year this one this could be the mvp our most improved performance of the day. So on the car last year, I got zero, and it was pretty cool. You know, being the biggest guy in the field and getting just fucking blanked. I don't know what, I mean, I know I'm stronger this year, but also, like, I just did not feel the tech. Like, I could not move the way in that car, the way that frame gears.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I just could not seem like i put any power into it at all and this year the my goal was one and my next target that it was even worth me doing which is was basically i had to i wanted i thought dylan also got 11 so i was like i need to get 12 basically that's like because you could leapfrog so i can some points, like limit the amount of points that I'm giving up. Cause if you could have got 12, you could have added two more points to your, yeah. But,
Starting point is 00:38:11 um, but I didn't know that that was the five was even possible. So I got one and I kept moving and I got to like six and I'm like, fuck. And so that's, that's where you're like, should I stop? If I kill myself to get 10,
Starting point is 00:38:25 that's literally, you could have, should have just done three or four. Yeah, yeah. You should have just done one. Yeah, one actually because there was a zero, so you just would have wanted to beat the zero. But also it's a show, so it's like, fuck it. All right. So I kept plugging away.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And it was funny because, like, some of my athletes from the crossfit gym were there and we've been really really working on like deadlift technique and having a nice solid hinge pattern and don't be getting fucking doing risky shit and my fucking last four deadlifts were the worst looking shit in the world and i I had to be like, guys, just close your eyes. Close your eyes, coach. Coach is doing some bad shit. So you tied Tommy.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, I got up to tie Tommy. And I actually thought that I tied Tommy and Dylan, but I was wrong. Dylan also, most of his reps are credit to him borrowing my Pioneer belt. So anyway, that was good. I was happy to have improved. I didn't want to fucking leave a zero on there. It's also sucks being like that bad at one thing.
Starting point is 00:39:37 You know, like if in the strongman stuff, there's enough diversity where like you can top three or top five, finish everything. You got a shot at winning. But you cannot finish in the bottom two or three. You really can't in one event. It puts you in a hole.
Starting point is 00:39:51 You can't win. You can do that in maybe podium, but you are not going to fucking win coming in last in an event. At a small weight class subdivided strongman competition, you can. Because there's probably only going to be like three or four guys. A couple points difference. So you could be terrible at one event versus everyone else. And the worst you're going to do is like two or three points.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah. Lasting the guy that could be exceptionally better than you. And the guy that you're neck and neck with. Right. Whereas here, if you're bad, it costs you 10 points. Yeah. And you'll never dig out of that right and you gotta yeah it's it's tough to even hang when you do that it always
Starting point is 00:40:31 the strong it always comes that's how it always bites me and that's why when i don't win i'm usually like yeah like there's probably a reason you know i mean like like everybody is stronger than me like that's that's i just feel like that well not everyone you well yeah but i can show yeah yeah so but i was happy with it i think and that fucking the kids the people that i was talking to after that like all the little kids like the car deadlift was everybody's favorite car deadlift in the log yeah well a lot of people like the log the stones too though because i think people like in their minds, equate stones to things. We'll have to get to that when we get to it.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But I want to hear your guys' take on that. I think the little kids like the log, the car, because. It's a car. Like, they think it's impossible. Yeah. Like, the kids literally. You know, I talked to a couple of them and stuff. And they'd be like, are you guys really going to lift that?
Starting point is 00:41:23 Like, they said, are you guys really going to lift that car said are you guys really gonna lift that car it's like yeah yeah i mean i know we're not gonna like pick it up and set it over our shoulders but like in a way in a way that you'll probably still be impressed by we really eat our wheaties man so that did go again the one thing i would change about that versus the way it is is one thing be a little heavier yeah like being a chevy impala would be the next next biggest up chevy but something that the rep range is more like between 3 and 15 yeah right yep i think that's uh from especially from a competitor to like doing 22 and i also talked to greg about it he was like 10 minutes later he's like i feel like i just ran a 5k yeah like i can't run and all of us like felt sick that that did me in i was cool after the first two
Starting point is 00:42:13 events with little recovery and stuff after that one i was i was not cool the rest of the day like like dizzy like where i sit down and hang my head and just be like all right no okay because the crowd is like all around us you know and we know 50% of people there and they all want to say something to you which is cool and yeah and fun and everything but at that one I'm like stop like I want nothing like don't talk to me I cannot use any of my breath to speak words yeah I'm really on unhappy and I feel a little barfy like the vibe in the players' pit got really dark after the deadlift. Everybody, it was the most hopeless and depressing vibe in there. Everybody was just scared of having to go do anything.
Starting point is 00:42:58 We were afraid. Eve came over and he laid down too. He went a couple before me and even by the time i got over and was recovered a little bit he was still like laying he's like i'm not gonna get better from this he's like i'm done like that some of that stuff though i was afraid i was gonna lay like if i laid down like everything was just gonna seize up on me and i wasn't going to move again i even debate that on just sitting sometimes i was i was right there the whole day of like i can't tell if standing and moving around all day is like really just draining energy and it's
Starting point is 00:43:29 going to add up or if you need to stay loose or if sitting down is going to conserve energy but like when i stand up it's going to hurt because things are going to also if you guys had to rank your level of um warm-up for any of these events we On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd be at a 1 at best. Everything is 0 to 100. How do you warm up for this? You just go. Before the very first event,
Starting point is 00:43:57 you do some things that you do with a band, or you go touch all the implements. You do the first event, and usually the first event is usually the first event is kind of one that moves you a little bit yeah yeah like i think that's by design a little bit and after that you're just tired so it's like and you feel warmed up you know like like if i think i need something like there was a barbell there and like you can always do like some like rows
Starting point is 00:44:21 a little deadlift i mean that gets things moving but after that you just do it which is funny because like the next event then the log press if i'm going to go up to like a one rep max for the log press in the gym it's going to take me a good 35 40 minutes to work up there i'm going to go in steps up to like a couple hundred pounds on the log yeah any press you're not going to throw it on yeah we're gonna start at two bills yeah and here we go right and i'm like no it'd be the dumbest thing ever to do that. And it's like, all right. Did it even feel like?
Starting point is 00:44:48 No, it felt great. It felt like that's what I've warmed up with. Because you're like, I'm not going to warm up. I'm fucking tired of this shit. I'm not wasting any fucking rest. It actually even crossed my mind. I'm like, I could go grab the bar, clean it, and then just do a couple reps of 135. I'm like, that just wastes so much energy, though.
Starting point is 00:45:03 So I'll just keep sitting down. It is like a battle of that where you have to decide, do I try to literally not move a muscle and conserve as much energy until I go again? Especially with ours for how fast it goes. Because there is no break. Yeah, and you can't kind of warm up for the car deadlift either. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:22 We're not going to swap out. Bring in the light car bring in the car that's like stripped down with no doors and stuff yeah so then the log the log was uh oh the other thing about the car i would do differently just from our event management standpoint is we left it over to the side so we never had to move it so it's kind of out of the way i would have just taken the extra five minutes to align it in the dead center of the back it up yeah back it up and put it right in the middle of the spit on the crowd because we still were kind of tucked in the corner we still made massive improvements compared to last year showing right like that's a very small like i think it would be
Starting point is 00:45:59 better to move it and put in the center but not a not it wasn't an issue i don't think but that could make it better yeah and that wouldn't take but a couple minutes right and at that point everyone would have appreciated that time i think all of us wanted the break but i wasn't going to go over there and tell them to kill five minutes because then it's like i'm telling them i need you know yeah but i think everyone wanted a break but then you know the crowd is sitting out there in the sun. And we've been in those crowds where when nothing's happening, you're like, why is there not anything happening?
Starting point is 00:46:32 At least I'm so patient with those things. I'm like, shouldn't they be going? This is a thing. It should be moving. And it's like I'm already just standing here. I don't think, would you guess anyone in the crowd ever had that thought? I don't know when you would have had time to be bored really yeah there just wasn't enough downtime for it no and the mc we had in the speaker setup is pretty legit right it's like it's a professional dude like yeah who sits at a radio behind a mic and does that 10 hours a day like he knows how to kill
Starting point is 00:47:02 yeah five or ten minutes here and there when he has to it was good when we had a little bit of downtime getting the order set up he's like starts pimping all the sponsors and hustling t-shirts yeah boy yeah so my opinion way better than bill kazmaier and mark hampton yeah like for real i don't even understand like like and russ does a very good job but like i i don't understand why at for real. I don't even understand. And Russ does a very good job. But I don't understand why at the Arnold they don't just get a local radio DJ who can work a crowd a little bit. Or just like a hype man of some kind.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Like, I believe wholeheartedly that Flava Flav would do a better job on stage than Mark Henry and fucking Bill Kattler. I think the Arnold, they should get us to run the strongman. Just to organize the stuff moving around. And we'll get Rusty. And like fly in the 20 of us that it's going to require to run it. All you have to do is just make, here's tips for the Arnold.
Starting point is 00:48:00 You do not have 40 minutes of downtime between events. Right. And if you do, because they will next year, maybe play some music during that time or something. Seriously. Bring out a fucking, literally anything. Yeah. Wheel out a bench press and have people do a bench press contest for 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:48:17 That would be better than nothing. Do literally anything because you cannot have Kaz and Mark Henry trying to entertain each other. Nothing against them, but they didn't have any material either. So they're just like, you can tell someone's in the ear like, it's going to be about 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And they're like, oh, fuck. Talk about their shoes again. Yeah. Anyway, so anyway, our MC did a badass job. Yes. So we move into the log. 200 was the starting weight.
Starting point is 00:48:46 It was the last man standing ladder event. Bumped 20 pounds each round. And we just moved and moved and moved. We had three people that got bumped out at the 200. Oh, really? Yep. And then 220? Then 220.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And we only had one person bumped out at 220. So then we've got four bumped out at that point. We jumped to 240. To 240. Or wait, yeah, you got the 240. I got 220. Yeah, so only one person. We went to 240, and I think only one person bumped out then.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Which was me. That was you. So you got the 220 pretty easily, right? I did, yeah. Were you close on the 240 then too? No. Okay. It's kind of one of i guess they go until they don't yeah it's it's like benching it's like you know you can you can smoke one you put 10 more pounds on it and it doesn't move and that's exactly how overhead
Starting point is 00:49:36 presses and it was yeah the 220 felt better than the 200 for me and which made me think like man i'm gonna actually hit a pretty monster pr today yeah the 240 clean it up it was definitely heavier but the clean was fine and then it's like yeah this isn't moving at all uh when you ate off your head that that's the one that gave me this this guy right here what is that kind of what like you were could you get the 240 do you think maybe like under the in the gym in the right scenario or like what were you shooting for do you think i if i got 220 i was happy yeah which i did um i do think if i trained more overhead press i think 240 could be there relatively fast i think it's almost more of a technique thing at this point just getting a better push you know off the bottom yep then we
Starting point is 00:50:19 went 240 two of us fell off then, Larry and I. Larry ground out. Oh, man. 240 would have been his last one. Yeah. He ground out the one before that. Yeah. Like, I couldn't believe he got it. Then at 260, did anyone?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Yeah. Jake went out. Jake got 260. Yeah. So make sure I say that right. went out. Jake got 260. Yeah. So I make sure I say that right. Jake and Dylan both got 260. Greg, Jake, you, and Dylan all got 260. Then we jumped to 280.
Starting point is 00:50:56 280. And Dylan and Jake fell off. Dylan and Jake fell off. And it's me and Greg. And Greg, I saw that Greg barely got 280. Yeah. I mean, it came back down, and he kind of finished it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:07 So my... He was just strict. Yeah. Every one of him wasn't particularly fast. It was all just like a... Just brute force. Yeah. And those take a lot out of you, too.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Those are grinds. And I still push jerk mostly, so it's pretty fast. But so Greg struggled at 280, and I knew I had a lot... My elbow fucking hurt. Like, I couldn't clean at all after that. Like, I knew I could do it, but it hurt a lot. Yep. So I definitely didn't want to take any bigger jumps than I needed to,
Starting point is 00:51:35 and I knew Greg probably wasn't going to make it to three. Yep. So I was like, since we got to, we said, let's just jump to 290. And we jumped to 290, and then Greg missed. And then I. And you got it pretty easily. Yeah, I got 290 pretty easily. And Jade came up.
Starting point is 00:51:50 He was like, you want to just do 300 for the crowd? And I was tempted to because I knew I could do it pretty easy. But my fucking elbow hurt so bad. Otherwise, I definitely would have done it. That would have been cool. Yeah, because I had been hoping to see someone do. That was my hope was to see someone do 300. If would have been like at the arnold where someone comes up and goes all right if you go back out and hit 300 we'll give you a check for 5 000 yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:52:14 that's just that is what literally happens there and then they're like well fine i'll do it then like they're like no i no i don't need to do it yeah and i wasn't really trying to win i just but but anyway it hurt so i wasn't trying to right so um but next year we'll definitely someone will put up 300 next year yeah i think so what i noticed on with we use the bigger around log the 12 inch log and this didn't ultimately affect how i did it's not like i did like 40 pounds less because of this, but from being tired from the, like dizzy tired from the deadlift, when I had it cleaned every time and like staring up into the sky, I was literally like my head. I noticed that right away is in the,
Starting point is 00:52:57 there's two things is in the gym when I first practiced with the smaller log two, three weeks ago, I was just taking it out of the rack. So I'm pretty much starting with it on my chest. But with that smaller log, you have a little room to kind of adjust it on your shoulders, move around. And your head's not really in the way of anything. You're just there. Well, with this bigger log, it doesn't really have anywhere to go besides the one spot, which is in your face and in the gym you can look up and you can almost kind of pick out a spot on the ceiling and that's kind of like your gauge of just reference to the world yeah here i go out and grab that 200 and look up and all you see is
Starting point is 00:53:35 empty blue sky and immediately it's like no reference to the yeah you're like am i fucking falling yeah it's kind of yeah yeah it's just. It's the same as if you need to keep your balance and then just go on one leg and then just close your eyes. And it's like, I don't really have anything to calibrate myself. And that's how it was. You felt lost out there right away. Yeah, I felt that every single one, even starting at 200. The weight of the press wasn't hard, but it took me a couple seconds every time just to be able to like yeah stop feeling like i'm going to just fall over and that's why i tried to do i tried to get the clean and get it just go as fast as yeah just so i did
Starting point is 00:54:14 that's a good strategy i think be smothered and the one time i got hung up with it like on the 260 it was like it was like a way i totally could have done pretty easily but i just like you did you sit there for a second and then you felt like that? Yeah, and I didn't have a good position. Yeah. My log was too low on my hands. Yeah, you had to take it. It ran away from me, but no, that was cool.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Next year we'll get 300. But that fucking log, I like that log a lot. It's a nice, easier clean. It is definitely easier to clean. The open, the wider cutting for the hole for your hands to get in yeah it doesn't the other one is so narrow that it fucking really jams up my wrist so i could really turn this one over do you i do you think that the handles are the same i think we measured them yeah that's what i was gonna say i think the handles are the same but just
Starting point is 00:54:59 the opening yeah so the difference is i'm grabbing in the same spot but on the other one i have to be elbows in to keep my wrists out of the way and then you're just doing a curl like a hammer curl but that log with the size of that log is it longer and bigger
Starting point is 00:55:15 it fucking looks really cool like those pictures that people got of the log like right there in front of the crowd looked really bad and I think Tyler I think it was
Starting point is 00:55:22 maybe me and you talking saying like that log if it gets used again, needs like the full Masonomics makeover. We need to get the red paint. So when you flip it over, we got a logo. Yeah, that's true. Austrian oak style. That would look cool.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Very true. That would be a way to one-up. Because I think we one-upped ourselves from last year going from the little log to the big log. Now we just got to make this log like. The pimped out Masonomics log. Yeah, I agree with that. We're going to put speakers in it.
Starting point is 00:55:52 It's going to be... Then we go on to the final event, which was the Atlas Stones. Fifth and final. And we've kind of gone over the rules in this before, but basically we had four stones. You could pick whatever stone you want. You could change stones in the middle one rep of the heavier stone beats many reps of the lightest stone and we talked last week about what we thought the strategy and i was like just really hoping that i would get to 300 because i've only got it in practice once and we're all like pretty sure that people were going to make the wrong decisions but i think almost everybody ryan struggled with it i think because he was smoked from the deadlift yeah but
Starting point is 00:56:31 pretty much i think everybody exceeded their expectations on the stones for the most part i don't know what was your thought going in tanner yeah i probably got hit my expectation you know like i was i was i didn't know for sure yeah right right right yeah and like every strategy and like weird scenario that we had talked about pretty much came up like that yeah people it was really down yeah yeah um because like i'll just go the order by what people did because it's interesting to literally see what people chose. So there's the 220, the 260, the 300, and the 330.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Jaren went first. He was the newcomer. He did the 220 and got it once. So that's a perfect example of why it was nice to have the 220. Because, say, if we had the 260, he might have blanked it. And this way, he at least got to get some experience with it. And he got to load a stone over the bar, which is more exciting. Yeah, yeah. Which also puts the pressure on if someone's going to fight with a bigger stone
Starting point is 00:57:29 and they don't get points, there's a guy that's going to be better than the floor. Yeah, he locked into place, and that did come into effect. Then Grayson went, and he – last year, what did he say? He couldn't load like the 200 or maybe the 220. I think he did get the 220. Yeah. And this year he loaded the 260 for three times. So that's a pretty good improvement.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Did he try the 300? I don't think so. No, he just did the 260. No, he just stuck with the 260 and knocked out three times. And he did that, and I'm following up Jason. We were very close in points. So for where we were at in positions like this had a play into how tommy you basically had to choose you can take a stab at 300 or you got pushed and
Starting point is 00:58:11 i've 260 you would have had to do a four yeah and i'm like beat him i really don't want to do that four times i'm like i've pretty much made up my mind that i really want to hit the 300 i wanted to hit the 300 in practice but my back had been bugging me so i'm just like you know what i'm just gonna have to show up and it's going to have to be a game day thing. And I looked at Ryan and I'm just like, the 300's got to happen. And I went out there and I was all tackied and I grabbed that 300. And I don't know if I fumbled with it the first time, but I picked it up and it left the ground. And right away in my head I was thinking like, oh man, that came off the ground easy.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And I picked it up, cleared it right over the bar, and I was like, I just did that, and right away I'm thinking, everyone's going to do this like eight times now. That's all I can think in my head is, everyone's going to do 300 like eight times because I've never done it once, and I did it what in my brain felt relatively fast.
Starting point is 00:58:58 So they bring it back over. I play with it a few times, trying to get it, get it back up, throw it over the second time, and I'm just thinking like, yep, people are going to be throwing crazy numbers around today. And I fought with it for that third one. Did you lap the third one? No, I got it off the ground a few inches a couple times, but I could never get it. I think at that point I was starting to lose my tack and the arm thing kind of.
Starting point is 00:59:24 It's a long day at that point. And that's a long minute. Is that a minute? Yeah, a minute. That's a long minute. Yeah. And we were talking about how many reps people could do in a minute. And it obviously depends on what stone they choose,
Starting point is 00:59:37 but nobody did over three reps of any stone. Like to do four reps of a stone that's somewhat challenging for you in a minute it's hard would be yeah you know that takes a lot it almost has to not be that challenging yeah that's and that you can't like it takes some time to get like it's necessary for you to have your tacky like you need to be hooked yeah yeah so like you're not going to get that in one second unless you're really fucking lucky and then pull like you're taught you're going to burn five or six seconds setting up right i think if that four is almost the number if you could if you can do four of any you probably you probably should be it would make you'd be better off going heavier you know three you should probably be considering it yeah yep
Starting point is 01:00:20 and yeah so after i got done with that 300 like my time was up and i walked away and i was just like to me that felt like a win for the day just for never doing the 300 once and then to get it for a double. I was like, I'll take that. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you'd never got it even. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:32 No, I, I'd never, I'd never got it off the ground before. I'd never even lapped it before. Right. So to get it for a double was. Yeah. The first time you peeled that fucker up, hugged it right off. And I'm like, Tom, that's what I was like, Oh shit. That's not even hard for him.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I was excited. That's what you thought too. I was like oh shit that's that's not even hard for him i was excited that's what you thought too i was like son of a that's like easy for him and every time somebody does that shit i'm like you're like oh fuck i gotta try to do something good everybody do really well at 220 and 260 so that like you know you don't have to do all this super you don't have to put yourself in a bad situation. Right. Dylan was next, and I don't know, did he, what he ended up with was the 260 for one. Do you know, did he try heavier than that?
Starting point is 01:01:12 I think he tried all of them. Did he try 330? Oh, did he? Oh, I don't know. I really can't remember. Yeah, I think he tried, I think he moved through each one. Oh, okay. So, and he got the 260.
Starting point is 01:01:21 But last year on the Stones, I think he, like, couldn't get, yeah. He just hasn't practiced right right so he is probably not disappointed with getting the 260 because that's like 50 pounds heavier than any stone he's ever loaded before so still not bad larry was next and larry what did he he started with the 300 i think he did and he fought with that thing oh yeah fuck yeah he fought with it on. Oh, yeah. Fuck, yeah. He fought with it on the. Did he get blanked?
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah. Yeah. Larry fought with it. Larry had it on the crossbar twice. Twice. For a long time. And didn't get under it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Just couldn't get under it. And that's the thing where being shorter. Oh, yeah. Just makes it harder. Yep. Yeah. For sure. Like.
Starting point is 01:02:00 That would have been. Larry. If Larry got that 300 stone, that would have been a big jump. Yeah. That would have been fucking cool. Yeah. That would have bumped him in the points a lot, too. Yeah, it would have. Because, so, there you go.
Starting point is 01:02:09 So he literally got zero. He got last in the event. And, you know, his strength or talent level at that event isn't representative of last. You know, like he. That's just how it played out. Yeah, because that's the choice. And it was so close. Like, I'm not saying it was the wrong choice.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yeah. Like it was the right choice. Like, but he just missed it by that much, you know? So that sucks. But that's like what makes that event cool. I think. Then Ryan was next flying Ryan and he tried the three 31st. Right, right away. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Yep. And he didn't get that. I can't remember. Did he lap it or what did he... I don't even know if he got it. I don't think he ever got a lap. He just... Yeah, he just had trouble.
Starting point is 01:02:51 He's done the 330 before. Yeah. I think he was specifically out of all... Yeah. The most beat down after the deadlift. It's different. Because everybody did a lot of deadlifting and Ryan's really good at deadlifting,
Starting point is 01:03:03 but he did 20 reps and he's 6'5". Like, there's a lot of fuckinglifting, and Ryan's really good at deadlifting, but he did 20 reps, and he's 6'5". There's a lot of fucking movement that happens there. Yep. So then he moved down to the 300, and he did get it by one. He got it one on the 300. So he saved face. Yeah, he didn't bomb out. Right, right, right and eve uh did
Starting point is 01:03:27 the same thing larry did i don't know what's what weights he went with it he might i think he started with the biggest one the 330 and went to the 300 and then i think he might even went to the two maybe he stayed at the 300 and never got it or maybe he went to the 260 and ran out of time yeah so he went to the bottom two and I've seen him load the 300 before, so that's another case where he took a risk, and it's tough. Then Big Jake, he rolled out the 330 right away. Jake rolled out the 330. Now, at this time, I'm in fourth and Jake's in third,
Starting point is 01:04:00 and I'm like, God damn it, Jake. Putting the pressure on. I can tell you by how much too. Greg was in first by three points, and then me, then you. Oh, I was in third then. I moved to third after the log. Yeah, you were in third.
Starting point is 01:04:20 You were ahead of Jake by a point and a half. Yeah. And so i basically knew though that whatever jake did like you basically had to tie or yeah for the most part yeah i don't think because because at that point there was nobody left that was going to jump over me unless i did really bad right right and but at that point i won the 300 stone, and I just had to do better than Jake did. So Jake starts at the 330, and in my head, I'm going, Jake, you're not going to get this 330.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Yeah. How did it go? How did it literally go for him? It went so fucking fast. He got it so easily the first time. So what happened then? He had to have had 30-plus seconds left. Then it was just fucking hard.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I think he got, did he lap it once or twice and got it close? And I think he had one or two drops once or twice and got it close and i think he had one or two drops with him and there was just nothing left but but he got to 330 and i remember looking over to tanner looking over at tanner and we're like fuck no we pretty much because at that time too i was like no one had done the 330 i didn't ryan missed the 330 who was someone i was banking on getting it yeah when ryan missed it i was like maybe it's i was like maybe i'm not gonna try the 330 like maybe nobody's gonna do the 330 because he was someone I was banking on getting it. When Ryan missed it, I was like, maybe I'm not going to try the 330. Maybe nobody's going to do the 330
Starting point is 01:05:28 because he was someone I thought was going to. He had a video of getting in the gym. It was easy. My thought at that minute changed. Maybe it is who can do the 300 the most. Everybody's just beat. You've got to remember, going into this week, 300 would have been cool. Under that level of that level fatigue getting 300 stone would have been great well
Starting point is 01:05:50 even even up until now what do we have six people that have ever even done the 300 once right like it's right right true and so it took some balls for jake to roll out the 331st to decide like screw it leave the 300 and i suppose if well actually i know he wouldn't have because i know better but jake could have you know attempted the 330 not quite gotten it and then i don't think he would have ever 100 but here's the deal i don't think he would have ever jake and jake was not going to quit that 330 pound stone until it fucking landed on him there was no way jake was going to move back down because that's what makes jake good is jake really really believed he could
Starting point is 01:06:31 get that stone and that was all it took and also you know he was for fourth place just just barely shy of third total standings yeah you know he's thinking like if i get first or second in this i'm gonna i'm gonna make the top three for sure. So Jake pushed the pace because now all of a sudden we had this fucking high watermark that I had to deal with. So you started with the 330 right away, right? I walked out and I didn't think about it. I didn't think about how much heavier it was or how much I didn't like the 300 when I did it in practice.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And I just walked out and I said, just leave the big one. And then, yeah, it came off the ground okay. And I didn't struggle getting it over. I was worried about trying to stand it up. I knew if I could lap it, I'd be all right. But taking it off your lap, especially a stone I never lifted, I didn't know if I'd get up and be like, oh, no. But then it came up, and then I got it the second time, it come off okay.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And then the third time it come off okay and then the third time it was really hard you know but they all went over okay and three at that with that there's no way i was gonna get four there's no time you know and it had the guy has to breathe and i don't know that i mean you'd have to be so fast to get four yeah with that you'd have i mean that's three takes it felt like every one of them took forever yeah yeah but like still it's averaging 20 seconds a piece including changeover you know right getting the stone back to you the spotters did a really good job people changing weights and stuff there was never like yeah even with guys even with guys moving down moving up they're fuck yeah like and And getting them reset when they went back over, it was awesome. When they pushed that 300 back to me, I was like, I could wait.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Don't put this right back on me. I just got rid of that thing. Come on, man. Then were you next or Greg? I was next. Greg was ahead of me by three points going into the event. And I was ahead of you and Jake by a little bit. So my thing was I was really thinking I definitely have to do the 330.
Starting point is 01:08:36 You've got to put some space between you and Greg. Right, right. So I was like if – I didn't know how Greg was going to do on the stones. I know Greg is is really really strong and everything but with his body type i was thinking he's probably not gonna do as well as some of us that are doing like i my i was banking on him not getting the 330 stone yeah you know so i was like i'm pretty sure i have to get second in this event in order to have a chance. So I was, so I knew that I had to get two. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:06 So the, I picked it up off the ground right away the first time and like almost had it lapped and lost my balance and dropped it all the way to the ground. And I was like, shit. Like literally at that second, I was like, well, yeah, I was like, well, no, I wasn't going to move. I knew I needed to, but I was just like, that is not – like I don't feel good about what just happened right there. You're not excited about what's happening next.
Starting point is 01:09:31 So then I pretty much got it lapped right away again and did my first one. It didn't feel easy, but like looking at it on tape, it's like it went right away. It went over the bar. I didn't have to fight it over the bar. The second one, I got it lapped fairly quickly and then when i went to get it over the bar like i felt like i couldn't like i wasn't yeah i wasn't i felt was feeling weak and just like like i was like oh god it's so hard yeah and i finally got it pinned against the bar and at that point i was like i really need to because yeah you know that's
Starting point is 01:10:06 going to be the difference in at least a point you know it will be a difference in a big point for me so and it's a swing point yeah so like i transitioned my hands to the bottom of it and last year with the 300 stone it's literally exactly what happened where i was like stuck like yeah it's like rolling back and forth across the bar as I'm trying to get it and uh last year didn't mean anything really as far as winning winning but it was just like it felt like the crowd really wanted it you know and so I was pretty disappointed about not doing it and I quote I feel like I had a flashback at that second in time where I was just like no not again not again. But it got over.
Starting point is 01:10:46 It was questionable. I looked at it on tape even, and I had it, and it, like, came, like it rolled down for a little bit, and I just, like, barely caught it and got it over. And I had maybe 15 seconds left, but I walked away immediately. Like, you know, I was, I, there was no, like I couldn't have done the 220 stone for walked away immediately like you know i was i there was no like i couldn't have done the 220 stone for one after that you know so i was done and i was happy with that but my biceps like 30 seconds once i walked away i was like oh well that was like i think they're like both
Starting point is 01:11:20 cramped or something you know like i can't can't move correctly there so then big greg went last and and greg did what he started with the 260 because he didn't i talked to him about a little bit he said he didn't know where he was at at all so he didn't want to start high and then chip down and not get anywhere right so like end up like larry or yeah so he did the right thing he started with 260 let's say the 260 was super hard for him then he should have just stayed there and done reps so i think he did it right yeah the 260 is pretty easy and especially he's ahead by quite a bit so he knows he almost like he's thinking he's got to be on the board you know right right so then he went to the 300 300 and then did he not get he got the 300 got the 300, but I think it was not super easy.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Because I don't think he tried the 300. I think he tried the 300 for a second rep and couldn't get it. But at that time, it's your third rep. And the third rep is hard. Always hard. I mean, yeah. And that's the other tradeoff is that let's say you build up to the 330. Then it's your third rep.
Starting point is 01:12:24 And you really don't want that one to be the one you, like the heaviest one to be the one you get to while you're out of breath. Right. And your tackies weren't off. Yeah, yeah. So I still think he attacked it right. Had he had more time practicing with the stones, he probably could have gone at it different.
Starting point is 01:12:38 But he just didn't quite know where he was at. Yeah, because what would have been better for him, if he would have done the 300 right off the bat and gotten two reps of that, that would have helped him move up a little bit. That would have put him equal with Tommy. So we wrap up then. That was the end of the show.
Starting point is 01:12:56 We had a tight finish then. Podium was, we had Jake in fourth place rocking the barbecue sauce. Yeah, so he want a gallon of big john's old west barbecue sauce which i was talking about earlier it is the only size of that barbecue sauce that i buy anymore it's the only one gallon jug because that's 20 bucks and uh i basically eat that barbecue sauce in the five dollar bottle like that's the quantity size like that's my serving size is yeah the full bottle so i use the gallons so i can not have to go shopping all the time yeah um and then in third
Starting point is 01:13:32 place uh just nearly edged out greg by like half a point half a point and then i got second and tanner got first and i was only one point above you yeah so the top three of us were within a point and a half and jake was only um three points back from bird yeah from greg crazy so the top four were really all pretty close like the top four places all came down to that last event where like nope all of those could have swung in different orders, in a combination of different orders. Yeah, maybe you should have missed that stone. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:14:11 It literally, all those little differences made a difference, which is a lot cooler than the finish of last year. I think this year is like, what's going to happen? Last year was pretty much decided. I think you had us by about 20 points last year. Yeah. You guys fucking certainly do suck. No, this was much cooler, though.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I think what you had the idea, Tommy, of in between each round. Kind of having a play scene. Because last year the event got done and knew like we kind of all knew that tanner won a lot of events yeah but after like you just but even if like the scoreboard went up and like tanner got third i've been like i guess i didn't see any standing so i can't argue that so so so tommy tommy's girlfriend leah then was the card girl she was so between rounds um she was in her swimsuit and walked around the crowd um no i think i was nice because then the crowd actually knew what was going on yeah like and
Starting point is 01:15:11 she said when she was taking the board around people like oh i didn't see it hold it up and yeah so people were really paying attention to the standings it was cool too because every most you go to that you always want to see that and you never know you never get to yeah you just never know so that is sometimes there's things easy thing to add that was really helpful. You'll like be going first in the next event. You're like, wait, but I thought I won the last. Oh, whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Yeah. That's exactly. It's like, oh, I guess. I don't know. Like, is this all on the up and up? Yeah, yeah. What's happening here? Right.
Starting point is 01:15:40 So, no, it was good. We had a lot of fun. Then we drank all the beer. And then made our way out to the fair again and drank all the beer there. Yep. And the rest is history. It sure is.
Starting point is 01:15:53 What is happening? Is there like a party in this house? I don't know. There's kids yelling up there. But guys, what else do we got to get out there today? We are running long. Yeah. We didn't have any g damn reviews so don't
Starting point is 01:16:05 have to worry about wasting any time with that thanks yeah thanks for nothing assholes we did sell a ton of merch so thank you to the people that uh purchased stuff i mean we i think it's safe to say it exceeded all of our expectations of what we're going to sell and thanks to the crowd we had a good crowd i wouldn't say that exceeded my expectations because that is what I expected. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, well, I think that's going to do it for us today. We'll get back into the full swing of things next week.
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