Massenomics Podcast - Ep.77: Hurricane Tanner

Episode Date: September 25, 2017

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Yep. You got the right ear hole in? Yeah, right and left. I think only one is going to work, is it? Do they both work? Yeah, I think they're both working. Must be nice. Oh yeah, we usually only wear one, though. It doesn't really matter, I don't think.

All right, guys, welcome back to this week's episode of the Massanomics Podcast. We are joined, Tanner has made his triumphant return from the land of the hurricanes. Say hello, Tanner. I'm a Irma survivor and proud of it. Hello. Tanner was gone last week. He was replaced by the very mustachioed ryan defay his mustache just gets better i know there's a part of me that was like i was sure that he would

grow that and then shave it within like a week and every day that he has it i like it even more now it's uh it's really developing like it's it's a strong mustache like it's not that mustache isn't kind of in the room no yeah the mustache is like calling shots you know like i wonder what uh when he substitute teaches what his students think when he walks in the room with that does he is he doing a substitute teaching gig this year yeah okay yeah i wasn't sure if he got a full-time thing or not but um oh yeah yeah that's right, because he did get, I remember that conversation. But, yeah, so Tanner, unfortunately,

the Bud Jeffries interview got washed away. It did. I had talked to Bud about it, and it was going to happen. We were really looking forward to it. Yeah, and it still is going to happen sometime, because it won't be the last time I'm there, but I was hoping this was going to be the time. But we'll get Bud for sure again.

Bud survived Hurricane Irma also, I see. I see. He's been out, like, look like he was throwing hatchets at the hurricane or God knows what. Yeah, and he's a little more inland, too, so I don't think, you know, some people there wasn't a huge effect it was probably like kind of having a storm yeah and like well it's raining and pretty windy but so where were you at so we were in uh the fort myer area i guess you were like in the shit yeah right on the we were on the so the the gulf side of florida the west side of florida and uh we got there uh about two or three days before it was like irma is going to definitely hit florida yeah so we had two or three days of

vacation where we were hanging out and then um every day during those three it would get to be a little more like oh let's watch the weather there's this hurricane thing that might come to florida by the third of soda day it was guaranteed that it was going to but at that point um these also have you do you know what a spaghetti plot is because before this no one would know what a spaghetti pot is and now like that's what we watched on the news for like 50 straight hours is that where they plot out all of the potential paths with which it could take? Yeah, yeah. Including where it chooses to go either west or east of the actual.

Right, right. And it's funny with these like certain events that happen like this hurricane or when we had the eclipse. There's certain phrases or verbiage that everyone uses when they talk about on TV. I can't remember what it is with the eclipse that we had, but they kept using a phrase that I'm like, nobody says that ever, and now everyone's using it on television all the time. I don't know, one reporter said, yeah. They've just been waiting five years for this opportunity. To bust out this one vocabulary word that no one's ever said before.

But these spaghetti plots, they were showing that it was going to go on the Atlantic Ocean side of Florida, which would make it so we wouldn't be in the direct path of like the eye of the hurricane at least. But, you know, the thing they're talking is like 300 miles wide. It was like the size of the hurricane at least but you know the the thing they're talking is like 300 miles wide it was like the size of our state yeah yeah florida is a the peninsula is 150 miles wide ish the storm is 300 miles wide so kind of wherever it was going to hit wasn't going to be awesome right right but it was going to be kind of on the east side, but we did make the call to kind of get out of there before the evacuation was more widespread. Yeah, yeah. At least that's what we thought.

Yeah. But, no, I guess when you're evacuating 15 million people, that doesn't get done in a day anyway, so that's like a week-long process. They said it was the largest uh human evacuation in the history of the united states except for you know when when moses and the jews left egypt oh that's ancient history but yeah the the the interstate battle it should have been a uh from where we're at we're on the on the trip to atlanta georgia because our flight was going to go out of fort myer yeah wasn't happening and that was going to be sunday and at and by wednesday or thursday we knew that that sunday flight was not going to exist and there were none you couldn't no no we

couldn't get out any like it was a complete the last place you wanted to be yeah airport right right so our flight was going to connect through Atlanta anyways. So we just talked to Delta and asked them, hey, we're just going to drive to Atlanta. Can we get on our flight there? And they okayed that. So that's what we did. But it was about a 500-mile drive north out of Florida and into Atlanta, Georgia. Which would have been probably like 10 hours.

Seven. Seven to 10 hours. Seven is what it should have been probably like 10 hours seven seven to ten hours seven is what it should have been yeah and it took us 16 or 17 jesus and it was all on the interstate basically it was like we get on the interstate and go and go was probably well yeah go yeah go get on the interstate and don't go uh one the worst of it was kind of around the tampa i think it was close to the Tampa Bay area. We're not in a town, not in a city or anything. Just in the country on the interstate, an 18-mile stretch took us two hours to move 18 miles.

I'd have lost my shit. Yeah. Like, it was, that's the longest car ride I've ever been on in one stretch by far. You know, I don't think I've gone more than say like 10 hours in a day, you know? Yeah. So 17 was way farther, but it was also 17 hours of just like. Awful, frustrating. Yeah.

And I didn't realize what traffic, like when people talk about traffic. Yeah. I have a way different appreciation of what that even means at this point now in my life. It took me until I was 30 years old to really understand what gridlock traffic really is. So interstate would be three or four lanes wide, and it would be stopped. And there's cars, like you'd get to where there's kind of a curve, and you're like, oh, I can see quite a ways. I bet I can see up there where it's moving. And it's like, no.

It's just not. It just it's not fuck that and uh they opened up the shoulder at one point in time during the we got far enough and it was like the middle of night now they said you could drive on the shoulder yeah but there's barricades on the far left side and on the right side of the shoulder was the rumble strip. So it was the most open of the four or five lanes, but also the most, most awful and very much the most dangerous. Yeah. Like it was, even though your own,

that was the fast lane. And if you're lucky, maybe you're going 40 miles an hour there, but it was, it was sketchy. And there's a, there's so many accidents. Yeah.

You know, if you just jam pack in traffic for that much 15 million people right like every three miles there would be someone on the side of the road that's like been in an accident and we drove all throughout the night and you know those rest stops on the side of the road that you normally drive by in south south dakota and you're like well nobody's there maybe there's two semis there yeah It would be like, there is not a parking spot left and people are parked in the grass and like camping out there and stuff. Every single one, you couldn't get gas. Most of the gas stations were out of gas. And the ones that had gas

were jam packed in line. Like I saw a couple arguments of people cutting in line, you know, and stuff like one guy literally got out of his car and went over to the window of another one and chewed the guy out and made him get like really like even though it wasn't negatively affecting this guy doing the yelling personally yeah it just bothered him so much that he went to yell at him to tell him to like get back farther in line uh so it was we you know it for how crappy it could have been it went about as well as it could but still like a 17 hour car ride throughout the middle of the night isn't fun no matter what how did jack handle that really well yeah so we have a you know a six-year-old son so like i'm getting cranky riding in a car for that long yeah he probably handled it better than

me you know like really well surprisingly the biggest thing is him is he doesn't stop talking and he doesn't really take naps you know so he's gonna so he probably didn't help your frustration well and we were in two separate vehicles for the most part so i really didn't personally somebody else's yeah but he listen grandma yeah but he actually did do somehow he did really well with that. But he made a couple of comments that were funny, like, just very matter-of-factly, not like whining, but like, boy, this really isn't how I pictured vacation. Like, I assumed there was going to be a lot more swimming and eating at fancy restaurants.

And a lot less days spent in gridlock traffic that kind of laugh i was like yeah that's kind of how i pictured it too you know but we made it to atlanta and it was it was there'd be points in time where traffic would open up a little bit yeah for maybe 20 30 40 I mean, it's still heavy traffic, and maybe you'd be getting going like 60 miles an hour tops. But then also a feature on iPhones, you know how you might look up maps on your direction or directions on your iPhone to check the map?

In South Dakota, they're always just always the same color. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I didn't realize it had the... It'll change color when the traffic's bad. I didn't even know that that was a thing until then i was like what the hell is all these red spots yeah because because here you can get anywhere all the time yes easily literally anywhere anytime always yeah yeah yeah yeah that's my thing always too like when i go to i'll go to a like a real city yeah and I can always measure like whether it's too populated for my blood by the fact that if I ever even once am at an intersection

where there's like a red light and the light turns green and I don't make it through that. Like, like if I'm waiting and it turns green and everybody doesn't get through, I was like, this place is too densely populated for me me i gotta get the fuck out of here there's definitely big advantages to living in a big city and i understand why people like it and stuff but when you're not used to it things like traffic and parking are are just crazy to me that like other people everywhere shitty people everywhere yeah uh but yeah i couldn't i couldn't take the the traffic in the parking myself personally that would be i i couldn't adjust to that i don't think part of it too though is like i think the way we see it versus people

that live there too though someone that lives in a bigger city like they maybe aren't getting into the shit all the time like it seems like if I'm going to, we're going to the city, it's like, there I am going to a sporting event. We're going to the busiest place to be. A bunch of spots that they probably don't go. They're like,

Oh, don't, why would you go there? Like a fucking asshole. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, every time I go to Los Angeles,

it never, ever fails. I'll be like trying to leave like Venice beach area and get like out of los angeles and it never fails i'm like oh well it's five o'clock on fucking friday yeah you know and there's just two and a half hours of shit yeah trying to get anywhere yeah um that's a good way to make my blood boil for sure for sure we did uh as a refugee from florida the uh atl Atlanta Braves were letting refugees go to their baseball game for free. Are you serious? Yeah.

How did they account for that? Were they just so bad that there was that many empty seats? There was plenty of empty. I think there's no shortage of seats. And they were playing the Miami Marlins also, so it kind of made sense for them too, I think. But they wanted to check ids your id make sure you had a florida florida id but all of us of course have south dakota ids but we just kind of talked to them and said you know we didn't realize it in time we didn't do it early enough to get

free tickets we'd already paid for tickets but we got free parking out of the deal but they would have actually given you both gotcha but we had to even haggle them on the parking. Yeah. We're from there. Trust me. The license plate says Florida. It's a rental. Right, right, exactly. Yeah, so when you go on vacation and you probably have certain accommodations planned for.

Yeah. And then if you're completely going to be in different cities at different times. Everything goes to shit. Yeah, yeah. It a lot of times as much money as it should be right right exactly did they just nail you on the rental car from a florida to georgia well i didn't you know that wasn't in my department so i don't even want to know but yeah i'm sure someone it it did not work out well for someone but that wasn't my that wasn't my department so i didn't couldn't say personally but i yes they get and like atlanta was packed because there's so many people from florida went to atlanta you know the whole city was crazy we went to like

that's coca-cola's headquarters gotcha we went to the world of coke which um i would not recommend going to that i thought it was going to be like a little bit cool a lot more cocaine like yeah where's the original formula but it was very commercial yeah like it was like you were in a giant commercial coca-cola commercial uh but the cool thing about that is i i met uh gerald mccoy who's a defensive tackle for the tampa bay buccaneers yeah yeah yeah and what uh if have you ever seen hard knocks before it's the hbo series i haven't watched you know what it is though and uh they follow one nfl team through training camp every year and this year is the buccers, and that show comes out basically almost live.

Like the episode that comes out, like week one of the preseason will go on, and then you'll watch the first – you'll watch that episode like three days later. Yeah. You know, they produce it really quickly and get it out. So this was right in the middle of their third or fourth week of training camp, and they had to evacuate too. He's from Tampa Bay. He lives in Tampa Bay. They got evacuated there, and he is one of the best defensive tackles in the NFL,

like top five. He's one of the highest paid defensive linemen, but still people don't know what he looks like. Yeah, yeah, he's in a helmet right yeah uh the only thing so here even i i'm a i like the tampa bay buccaneers and i saw him from myself to about 15 feet away he was leaning against the wall and i looked over at him the first time i kind of glanced like this was at the coke thing yeah yeah he was there like with his family too you know just same thing there's so many people they're just just like where do we go in atlanta And this was at the Coke thing? Yeah, yeah. He was there with his family too. Same thing.

There were so many people there. Just like, where do we go in Atlanta to do something for four days? And I saw him over there and I was like, gosh, that is somebody. I'm sure that that's... He's too big to be nobody. That 6'5", 300-pound black guy with a gold chain on, I'm pretty sure is somebody. So you went up and you said well no i i looked at him for a while and i was like and i couldn't place it and then like we were still standing there and he was still standing over there and i looked and i was

like oh i'm pretty sure that's gerald mccoy so then i had to so i was gonna go talk to him but i didn't want to go up to this guy and are you Gerald McCoy? When I'm not real sure about it and have him be like, listen, white boy, listen. So I pulled it, Google pulled up a picture of him and I'm like,

okay, that's gotta be him. I'm pretty sure he's wearing this exact same gold necklace as he is right here. So I did walk up to him and like, he's facing directly forward. And I came on to him from the side and said, uh, excuse me, does anyone ever tell you that you kind of look like Gerald McCoy? And I'm pretty sure you could have counted to two

Mississippi. And he just kept looking directly forward and not responding to me. And I was like, I was just about ready thinking like i should turn around and walk away you know like he's not interested in talking right now and then he kind of looked over uh with a smirk and said yeah that is me so i was like whoo sigh of relief you know that he wasn't like pissed off that i was bothering him. And I talked to him for probably like 10 minutes and I was like, why are people not coming up to you? You know, I was like, there's like 5,000 people in here and no one's bothering you or anything. And he's like, yeah, you're the only dumb ass who wants to fucking waste my time.

But that's, he said, well, what we just said earlier, you know, he's like, I'm not a quarterback, you know, nobody wear a helmet yeah yeah but what he did say is this year like literally just starting right now it he's it's a huge uptick in it just because of hard knocks on hbo i bet because people because he's one of them getting seen with a helmet right right and he's one of the he's kind of a character and he's one of the best players on the team, so it's one of the guys they follow pretty closely on the show. So he said because of hard knocks, that's way more popularity with people than being in the NFL or being good in the NFL ever has got him.

It's like Half Thor has a fucking five minutes of FaceTime on Game of Thrones. Right, and then everyone's like, whoa. Oh, it's the moment. Yeah, ain't nobody called him that before exactly and i did ask him too what i was curious is they canceled their nfl game didn't cancel it but pushed it back to their week 11 so they have to had to play 16 we'll have to play 16 games in a row got so their bye week became week one week yeah so i asked him what he like if that sucks or if you know what he thinks about

that and he kind of laughed he said huh i get paid the same either way yeah i later did the math and he gets just about a million dollars per game so i agree with i understand what he's saying like yeah he gets paid the same either way on a week's rest or two weeks rest it doesn't really matter when it's a million dollars, it pretty much do whatever. So I have a question. So what is your interpretation? So Tanner then posted the picture of him and Gerald at the thing

and just said, please help me welcome Gerald McCoy, all pro defensive tackle of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the newest sponsored athlete to the Massanomics team. The free t-shirts were just me in a picture. Yeah.

Yeah. Just too enticing for him to turn down since his last contract was only for $98 million. And then a little time goes on and I did not tag him in that would be, would be worth noting. I didn't take him in that. Somebody. Yes.

Yes. So someone went and tagged him in it okay like i was doing it intentionally not taking him funny yeah yeah yeah and then so he chimes in and says really question mark exclamation mark exclamation mark this is news to me what is your interpretation did you message him back like hey dude we're just fucking around i i i never did because i assumed at that point he's not going to respond. He has enough other shit going on. I'm surprised he even bothered to make that comment.

Was your vibe that he was just fucking with you for fucking with him? Or was he like, this fucking asshole takes a picture with me and then just wants to claim I'm sponsored by him? If he was under the impression that I was being... Anyone that would follow us would know that you would read that and immediately know that that's a joke yeah but he might have read it and you know have no background of understanding of us and think that i was really like just trying to turn a picture into a thing right right but and i thought about explaining that to him too and everything but i was like it was like 30 minutes later and thinking he probably already even forgot about this and yeah it would just be wasting my time to even

like it would make me look worse if i sent another message you know just trying to explain it yeah and he'd be like yeah yeah i get it yeah yeah so i didn't but when i saw that he commented on it it that caught me by surprise a little bit yeah yeah yeah thanks thanks upton for fucking tagging him and i'm a son of a bitch when i saw that he tagged him i was like oh shit i was doing this with the intention of not tagging him yeah no shit but i but to answer your question i'm not sure what what do you think his tone was of that i without knowing the nature of your two's conversation together i can't tell if it was playful enough he would have been like oh yeah this guy's just yeah but i also wonder like how often they get put in those situations yeah that might be a real thing that happens if

he's if he just happens to be wearing oakley sunglasses one time when he gets a picture taken when he's walking in and does oakley if oakley starts blowing up some shit fucking saying that you know trying to use his name like that would probably be a problem yeah well or at least you'd want some motherfucking money right well he's actually a superstar like yeah like this isn't our average no power lifter thing that we'll do that with this yeah this is someone that like does get paid 100 million dollars and you know like yeah so he looks at it through a different lens i think then if we go do this to blaine sumner he's gonna read it and laugh you know yeah yeah and because he knows but yeah so i couldn't read whether he was actually pissed or not at this point it doesn't matter no no and either way i was like well i guess it got

him to look at it so did he or did he not follow massonomics he did not what yeah he just fucking high-rooted you yeah i know big-timed you yeah he's got a check mark by his name even so do we yet do you have one no i don't even know how that i don't really even know the process i feel like I know. Big time, yeah. Yeah. He's got a checkmark by his name even, so. Do we yet? Do you have one? No, I don't even know how that, I don't really even know the process. I feel like I should try to get a checkmark. I don't, do you know what the process is? I think if you have to ask, you don't deserve a checkmark. Yeah, yeah.

That's how it goes. That's what they even say, like, oh no, we contact you. Yeah, we'll let you know when we got to put a checkmark next to your name. Yeah, we'll let you know when we've got to put a checkmark next to your name. I think that was really mostly the highlights and the lowlights of the Florida excursion, though. Do you know, did the place you're staying, did it get wiped off the map? No, it didn't. It turns out we could have stayed there and been unharmed, but... There would have been power outages, food issues.

Yeah, and we wouldn't have been able to get out of there still you know like it rolled through saturday sunday and we would we were wanting to leave sunday yeah so we still couldn't uh we would have not died and then also if you did choose to leave a day or two before you know if you tried to leave thursday when did you we ended up leaving so i think we ended up leaving thursday so yeah you were out right in front of it yeah yeah but you wouldn't want to stay like another day and a half i don't think it would have really been a nightmare yeah interesting but no the where we were at you you know there was certainly wind damage and but the flooding wasn't, like, severe where we were at. The condo is still above ground.

Yeah, like, maybe there's other parts in the city that got it worse or in the town that got it worse or something. But the house where we stay is fine. So we'll be going back next week. Yeah, so, bud, I'll still be back sometime to get you there. So that does kind of suck. I was looking forward to that. You know, I was too.

We pat, you packed everything up and took it down there. Like the portable rig at least. And, and you know, because we were there for like two days and I was planning on doing it sometime in the middle. And after two days where our plans turned into how we're like figuring out how the hell

we're going to like, not be in her painter and be i just bugging out yeah like get you next time was he like don't be a pussy well no no but i think a lot of native florida you know a lot of people from florida were like oh geez yeah but actually it did get severe enough talk event i think there was even people that we talked to that were native Florida that early in the week, they're like, oh, we were here for Hurricane Charlie. Like, don't worry about it. It'll be fun. And then it had gotten escalated to where like, they're like, yeah, because some of the thing almost became like a lot of hyperbole. We're like, I've never heard weathermen talk like this.

Right. You know what I mean? Like 15 foot swells of water. We are going to just slap the dick right off the United States. Like really? Yeah. So then a lot of those people are like, Oh,

actually we might evacuate too. Maybe we should go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I might, my, my infant's just not a very strong swimmer.

Otherwise I'd stay. But then, you know, it did end up in a lot of just not a very strong swimmer. Otherwise, I'd stay. But then, you know, it did end up in a lot of areas not being as bad. Yeah. So. Could you imagine the rush back? Right. It'd be just as bad, I'm sure. I'd like, I'd stay in Atlanta for another week.

Yeah. That was about it. I'm trying to think if there's anything else super exciting that happened, but that was, I think that was about it. I'm trying to think if there's anything else super exciting that happened, but I think that was about it. We did talk last week briefly about we let the world know about your bicep incident at the Strongman competition. How was that on vacation? Or first and foremost, how was that 12 hours later on an airplane

with a partially torn bicep? Well, see, it was tough even just like pulling around a small, you know, I just kind of have to, because we left the day after that that happened. Yeah, and we didn't get home until evening. Evening, yeah, and then wake up and go in the morning. So I'm going to bed not even sure what it's going to feel like in the morning, you know, like is it going to be black and like I can't move it at all or but it ended up being it's just uh at the elbow the bicep tendon it was

like grade one tear which grade one just means the least severe that a tendon tear would be so basically like 25 percent of the tendon or less that tore so it did get a little bit of black and blue but it's not like i did not like you see a pictures where it's horrendous like uh gross looking but mostly it just hurt yeah you know and i couldn't and stiff you know like where i can't couldn't use it yeah and uh every day immediately after the day immediately after was the worst yeah and every day it did get just a little bit better but it's just a pain in the butt to do routine things and it's not like it's so bad that i couldn't do anything with it yeah so it's not like it's in a sling and people see it's in a sling and like oh that guy can't pick this up you know someone's still yeah hey

big guy yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's like well not really i'll give you like one hand you know um but it kind of sucked is mostly when i would forget for a split second and make a quick motion yeah and be like and then i'd be like ah you know and then you get like a twin you know a shooting pain from it yeah because most of the time i'm aware of it so i I'm not going over to pick this up. And the first thing that I did try to pick up, though, was my son. And how you pick a kid up like this and pick him up. And I was like, whoa, definitely not doing that.

Now you've just got to grab him by the throat now from here on out. Getting the old one-arm lift. So that's gotten a little better well since then it's a lot better than the day after um but what they say about that the the the tendon it'll get it'll completely the pain will completely go away eventually like you know i i anticipate within three weeks from now i don't think it'll yeah it's not gonna hurt at all but the tendon the part that's torn won't on its own uh reattach gotcha so like that's just going to be torn and so the likelihood so so the strength of what's there is reduced by however much

you're like popping the whole thing yeah because like you know you didn't tear this because your tendon was just inherently weak either no i had because we had a competition yeah then that's but it's my own fault like at least to a good as much as it would have been for any of us yeah right right because even warming up that day for the full two weeks of rest i felt like trash yeah and then even just warming up that day, the full two weeks of rest, I felt like trash. Yeah. And then even just warming up that day, I was literally thinking, oh, my biceps hurt. I even said that.

We said it a lot. I was like, this is hurting my biceps. When my grandparents from out on the west side of the state were in town, and I went out and talked to them right before the thing, and they asked how I was feeling. I was like, yeah, we're pretty fucking beat up from last week still. I said, everything we're doing here kind of hurts our biceps. So we kind of stopped. I said, we are on.

I told my exact words. I think we're on red alert for trying to avoid bicep tears. Yeah, exactly. That's our number one thing. I just get through this without tearing a bicep. And no joke, second event, Tanner, pop, pop. Yeah, like the very start of the second. and the first event was a very easy event so it's almost like the first event is the you know the first real event yeah like the first event was just a rock

throwing thing for distance so it wasn't yeah physically taxing it was like the very beginning of the very first real real event and the first flip i could, I, you know, I felt like I say that I can hear it, but I don't know if I can literally, there's a noise or if you can just, yeah, yeah. That it did two of those, you know, where it's like, and I finished and flipped the tire. And then I like, I paused for a second. I'm like, I think that that's my bicep and you know before yeah and i'm like it hurts and but i'm kind of also like have the adrenaline rush at that point in time so i tried to pick it up again and i picked it up a little ways and it made that noise one more time and then i was like oh definitely that is definitely what that is now i can tell for sure yeah and i

dropped it and it hurt right away but it wasn't it was, I wasn't like a eight out of 10 on the pain scale or anything. It was kind of like a five where it's just hurts and there's no way I could, uh, I could have deadlifted with straps through some pain, but I couldn't have picked up a hundred pound rock, you know? Yeah. I mean, you could barely lift the handle on the car door yeah right exactly yeah which is not a good position to be in when you're trying to be hella strong right yeah right exactly the way i felt with my fucking elbow for the last whatever is i was like with those two competitions i was like i'm trying to be like a strong man and i can't pick up just do something

easy yeah seat of my truck right now yeah but i need to pick up something that weighs 300 pounds yeah it's weird and yeah so um it was interesting i don't remember if we got into it much but like um with like my elbow shit i hadn't i haven't deadlifted heavy at all yeah in many many many Yeah. Like three months now, probably. And, you know, I hit, what was it, 500? Yeah, 500 for six. 500 for six. And that would be like way more than you've ever. Yeah, like, you know, and I think my fucking PR was like 545 for the single.

So why do you think that was? I've been doing a lot of like Julian's training, which is like so much on like bracing better and protecting the back better, which granted, if you watch those six lift, maybe only the first two went like that, but, but, um, and then a lot of like, like bag work. But the thing with that is with all this stuff is I'm actually finding now like my hamstrings, you know, finally I'm like, oh, shit, I'm sore in my hamstrings. Yeah, yeah. Fucking never am. Yeah. So, but it's been kind of interesting not deadlifting and feeling like my deadlift is strong.

Yep, yep. Which is kind of cool. So that part, that was like the win that I would take away from it. But, yeah, it was interesting because I actually haven't trained what you would say is measurably heavy uh-huh in a long time and that was probably i haven't squatted especially with my elbow i haven't squatted i can't even get my hands on even my bow bar uh-huh so i've been squatting sandbags and shit like that but light yeah you know doing like sandbags into sled sprints and shit like that not like five rep however though once it's weird because i'm in this hole between you know with the competition stuff but leading up to it is i haven't felt that like beat

down feeling like you get when you're kind of under a lot of yeah yeah yeah so yeah i think it'll be good i'm gonna ride it out for another couple months probably two or three months kind of like that well you probably don't really have a choice. Yeah, until I can. But I'm kind of looking forward to seeing that, give myself a little bit of a break, and then ramping up with some trying to get back under a barbell again. I had to get – we had to put a bunch of beams and posts in, in the basement of our

fucking new CrossFit gym. So, cause we basically couldn't drop weights. I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast, have I? I don't know. So like we basically, we got it. I got everything tore out, you know, demoed and everything looked structurally like it'd be fine. And then I go and I would like three days before we open i drop something light

like 135 pounds of bumpers from my waist and i'm like and i right away i'm like oh you can feel it we can't drop weights in this fucking building at all and that was bad yeah nobody likes slamming bars more than me and and the the thought of dropping even that weight overhead was like. Not a good idea. Like literally cannot happen. Yeah. So we wrote it out for this first, what's it been now, two and a half months until I could finally get a contractor to show up and do the work. So did they get it done?

Yeah. So does it feel different? Yeah, it's way better. It still is like, I mean, it's not going anywhere. Like you go in and look at what they did,'re like oh jesus christ you know like like there is no fucking way that you're smashing what what's well what's there you just can't break it i don't know how you do you couldn't break it with 30 fucking sledgehammers yeah you know so um so that was cool we got i got that done this week and we've been back to dropping weights but all that was kind of funny because the only it's interesting

because the only people that like complained about that throughout the whole process were people who would like come from you know our other crossfit gym in town when we opened up and their expectation was to be able to drop weights. They're used to dropping weights. But what's interesting is none of the new people... Because they're not... Had I just opened up, it wouldn't have ever been an issue whatsoever. Yeah. Had I not had some people that had done CrossFit before, nobody would have gave a shit.

Nobody, because there's no... There's no expectation. Not only that, if you ask every one of them, would you like to be in a room where a bunch of people are dropping weights they're they all would be like fuck no why would you do that these assholes handle their weight and put it down right and so it was kind of funny when i was you know kind of diffusing that about 30 of our clients were like yeah sweet we're gonna get there we're gonna get to do this eventually. And the other 70 were like, what? Why?

What does that even matter? What's wrong with this? And I was like, I like where you're going with that. Making it easy on me. Do you think some of those will change over then eventually? Yeah, yeah. Everybody likes slamming bars. If you don't, once you do it, you'll be like, yeah, that's pretty awesome.

What does get to be frustrating is people dropping like like 95 pounds from overhead and it's like you should just carry that put that down under control yeah um it's one thing like a pr clean and jerk but like if you're at like 50 of your max yeah you just want to go on to the next thing just set it down just because there's then it becomes a safety. Yeah. I was going to say, so flying all over the place. Yeah. But that was like, man, I couldn't, can't even count how much sleep that cost me. Cause I was like, I signed a longterm lease. Yeah. You know, I was like, what the fuck are we going to do here? You know, I'm going to start losing people.

At least the beginning, you know, our core group. Right. The ones that want to get back to it they ain't gonna stay so i was very glad to get that done in a couple months so you don't have any concern of i mean it's just done going forward now frankly if it fucking goes under now i mean i've done everything that i could do yeah yeah and then it becomes there's no point in worrying about anything yeah i mean now if anything breaks let's call insurance yeah because i've spent many, many, many thousands of dollars to be prepared for this.

But yeah, it was pretty sweet. I did, though. I was walking around and I was showing a guy the basement and I walked around the backside and I was like, look at how fucking solid this beams they put in here is. And I wind up and hit it like, boom,

and pull my hand back and they had a nail that was punctured all the way through so i fucking put like a quarter inch wide quarter inch deep puncture hole in my the side of my fucking hand was the guy impressed like i was like well i mean i hit it so hard it did go thud yeah it did just punch right into my hand and then i was like, that was fucking stupid. Yeah. Bleeding all over the place. Yeah, so that's the news down there, basically. I did buy a, have you been there since? Not for. I ordered the whole set of sandbags.

Oh, yeah. I also just ordered, Julian at StrongFit has the pinkest pink sandbags you've ever seen. I've seen that, yeah. It's like hot pink, yeah. So I ordered a 280 280 plus one that you can fill to probably like 360 or more yeah um just to have i want the big pink one to be yeah so gross heavy that people like like it most of the time it'll just sit there it'll never yeah but it had to be yeah that one has to be the one uh-huh i didn't want like the last thing i wanted

was the pink ones to be like the 60 pounders right um so i want the pink one to be the the big pig yeah um but yeah so i've got all those and i did get a set of their like 150 foot long fucking rope which doesn't i mean you're just like you can pass on it it's 150 foot whatever until you drag that fucker out i mean that is a long ass rope yeah that is the worst shit in the world to pull also to haul around just the rope itself yeah not like hooked up to anything yeah just like take this outside and string it out into and you're like fuck that's like you know i mean you gotta that's the workout you've got a 50 foot extension cord in your house i'm certain that you hate to fuck with right you know for sure so now imagine that it's two inches thick and 150 foot long yeah and heavy but so that stuff's been

fun to fuck with i ordered i got three sleds so we've been doing a lot of that stuff which has been a pleasant change of pace from crossfit's traditional like the traditional impression people get of crossfit which is just fast olympic weightlifting and swinging around on pull-up bars. Yeah. So is there people that are missing that, do you think? No, because we still get into enough of it. Yeah. It's not like it doesn't.

But I introduce the sand. Everybody is doing a sandbag thing at least once a week, mainly because you just move so well with them. And for new people, I have new people doing sandbag work as opposed to barbell work in the beginning. It's just kind of how I scale it. So it just makes it easier. I have some people who can't squat great with a bar or even air squat that awesome.

You put a bag, it kind of pulls them into the right position. And I'm like, you're just going to squat with this until you move like this all the time. And then we'll load it heavier and heavier. And when you're ready to take a stab at a bar let me know frankly don't worry about that too much yeah like there's some people who are new that are coming in who just don't give a don't give a fuck at all yeah i mean like like if they don't give a fuck as in not about their trainer yeah but if i were to ask them when they come they just want the end result yeah do they they don't do they really care if they squat 225 on a barbell?

No. What is that really? I think that's one of the things I think Julian gets right that I think a lot of CrossFit programs and coaches get wrong. Uh-huh. It's like, give everybody an opportunity to fall in love with all the stuff that you do with CrossFit. Absolutely. Expose them to it. Let them see it.

Let them try it when they want to try it. But you get some people that walk in and they want a result. Maybe they're not any good at fucking snatches. They certainly aren't going to be right off the street. Or maybe they don't have the mobility even to move well with a bar on their back or a front squat or anything. Like who the hell are we to just like shoehorn them into that? Right.

I give everybody a bag and everybody will squat good with a bag and can put in work what's it matter and so if you ask that person how about if you if what about if i never have you squat with a barbell on your back would that bother you they'd be like no and as long as i get fitter and yeah you know lose the weight that i want to lose whatever they want whatever they came into the door for almost give them that without those tools at least especially especially you get it faster if they can't use those tools right right you know because then you're right you're gonna have somebody squatting with an empty bar they're not putting in any work they're not moving well it's like here put in work with this right right um so that's what i really really like

it for that and for new people off the street, new people, I feel like those are the people you wouldn't really meet any resistance on. They'd be like, well, that makes sense. All right, that sounds good. What happens if you have somebody that's done CrossFit for a couple years? And they're like, well, we do this with a barbell. I'm a fucking pro. I mean, I feel like I could make it to regionals

if I just improved by 40 or 50 000 spots between now and next year you know that's that's the shit that drives me nuts yeah the people that are you know feel like they're gonna be making it to the games anytime soon right and that's fine if you actually are but if you're not you should be aware of that yeah you know like you know across it's to the point now where it's it's competitive like the the sport side of it is a professional sport now so nobody's going to walk into your city league basketball program and be like my goal is uh to make it to the nba draft in the next two years i'm gonna work really hard uh i got a coach i'm gonna come three times a week and i'm

not gonna listen to my coach either well that is what it's comparable though too it is thinking that you're gonna make the prospect games it's actually no different yeah yeah because um it's just it doesn't make any sense there's uh enough people in the pool at this point like it's not like there's 3 000 people out doing it you're not just competing with fun people that work hard that are kind of fit you're competing against do only that and only that so that work 24 7 that work harder than you yeah that have absolute elite level genetics yeah also yeah that's putting them in that yeah they're not like going working out like five days a week for an hour.

And my thing too is I don't really want any, like, I really don't really want my clients training like those people anyway. Yeah. Because that's also not very sustainable. Right. You know, I'd rather have you train for 10 years and get a little bit better instead of trying to catch all the fitness in the next two months and get hurt. Right. Those guys have way different goals like they're you know yeah plus how many of them compete for 10 years yeah you know what i mean like like the the competition with like you know i think julian said too the competition window

where you can actually compete is you've got about five years yeah total yeah and then you're not going to compete anymore because you're fucking broken and can't handle the volume anymore it's you know all that work is not good today yeah it's not good for you you know it's good for you to get better at the sport but it certainly is not good like 60 year long term yeah it's not better off for you having trained four times a day right you know right and then so then what the hell are you doing it for so yeah if it the people that are doing it and that are at that level i understand it like they know that they're like yeah yeah but they understand that but it makes sense because they are at that level you know they're like are at the games or like are almost at the games then like that's just a trade-off that they're making

then yeah but if you're not there then what is what's the trade-off that they're making then. But if you're not there, then what's the trade-off? Sometimes people need a real – well, the other thing is people that are well aware that they're probably not going to make it there or be on that level that still think they should do two a days or that they're 100 and – if you're a man, you're like 160 pound snatches. Not that there's anything wrong with that being what it is, but like that's not going to get you anywhere.

You know, so put the work to get stronger or just get stronger. But like definitely don't let your ego drag you around. Right. Because what are you doing here? So do it because it's fun don't do it so you can be better than people i think it was uh i want to say it was scott mcgee actually who had shared a thing i'm trying to remember if i screenshotted it or if he had it on his my fucking instagrams froze now be a bad host but it was uh it was a thing on like crossfit as competition or as just training yeah and and it

was basically the the sentence was basically for crossfit as training was like oh that was fun and i think i got a little bit better this week this month and then crossfit as competition is look at how many people i beat yeah and that's really it. So which guy do you want to be? You know, but, uh, yeah, I thought that was funny, but anyway, that was, that's the kind of the dynamic I see with the slam and weights is the people who maybe want to be a little more competitive, want to do the, you know, I won't say traditional CrossFit because traditional CrossFit is constantly varied functional movement at a high intensity not 40 minute amraps of snatching and catching your

breath and doing pull-ups and catching your breath and never getting uncomfortable so by but you're so you're saying by the letter of the law or the definition of the word you're doing fucking hell a lot more functional than pressing a barbell but what but what people perceive at this point as conventional crossfit and that's crossfit hq's doing yeah yeah you know because they're trying to publicize the sport because that's their next big avenue for making money yeah well that i sometimes think that about the games itself you know because i not in the sport of course but i understand i know the definition and stuff and sometimes i'm like they do throw in like what i see is they'll throw in one or two events that are very crazy and unknown to them but then a bunch of them it's like kind of the same thing that they

always do yeah yeah where it's like people will say oh it's just a good old-fashioned crossfit workout yeah well but then by definition it's kind of not yeah it's oh, it's just a good old-fashioned CrossFit workout. Yeah. Well, no. But by definition, it's kind of not. By definition, it's not. Yeah. Because like 21-15-9, a fucking barbell thrusters and fucking burpees or whatever, is that a – I guess. Yeah.

Just because it's two of the fucking many things. But there's a lot of things I would define as a hell of a lot more functional uh-huh the other thing that that's been that that is frustrating is the you know the lack of intensity that we find and i have we i don't even know if we've talked about this since julian's thing but um if you go back and listen to the podcast with julian and richard you know after that strong fit seminar and the coaches week um that was the piece he always says is missing now with crossfit athletes including games athletes that he coaches because everyone's basing everything yeah so he'll have them come out and do like i want a 200 meter sled sprint and i want to fucking kill you and you decide how hard you know i mean you decide if it's going to kill you or not

it's not on the sled to do it and the more competitive the crossfit athletes the less hard they go because they've like built a work capacity but then they don't quite stomp the fucking gas they have that big engine and they're never in the red yeah so what they do is they just go to it and they get done and they're like yeah yeah that was good and it's like no no no no no no you can't be like that and that's and my favorite thing with using those tools and i've done it lately one because you know if i have new people that come in and they're especially when i'm doing some squat assessments and things like that and they end up getting kind of sore first couple days they haven't squatted at all even air squats just they're just sore the first couple days and by the second or third day maybe over the course of a week or two i'm like well i want you to get work in but i can't have

you squat again or i'm not gonna have you do any more hinging you're still sore from two days ago because it's so new like i was like well let's go push this lead you sled. You can get a whole bunch of work in in just 90 seconds. There's no negative portion of a ramp on pushing the sled. Yeah, and that intensity is totally relative too. So somebody who's totally deconditioned can go just as hard relatively as a very fit person. They're just moving a little bit slower with a lighter sled or anything but

like you're like you decide to let that to really fuck that thing up like you said like that really fit you know really competitive person like they got done and said oh that's pretty hard yeah like but you're saying they still would it would have looked like they moved it really fast yeah probably wouldn't have like been slower than so but but it could have gone yeah it was not relative to how hard they could have gone yeah yeah they put they gave you 80 percent yeah it still could have been like the fastest person so what the sport of crossfit is becoming is how long can you work at 80 of your max output is what that is 70 to 80 can you maintain that for 60 minutes straight yeah and that's what you see when these people are putting in all that volume training you see all these cute workouts like oh i did a 45

minute am rap of this and this and this and that's fine and it sounds like a lot because it is but like trust me that doesn't hurt as bad as two minutes on the sled going until you have white hot pain and you go ghost white and you don't see anything but stars and you cannot fucking stay on your feet when you're done and the first thing you feel like doing you have to kick your fucking shoes off for some reason you know like that's how you know you went hard that you can't keep your shoes on and uh and so that that's why i like that though is we've had people, can go so fucking hard with it. But they shouldn't be sore at all from that next day, right?

No, never. I mean, there's nothing to be sore from. The only time I ever get, and it's not from the sled, but I've done some workouts just myself where it's like, I'll do, like, the heavy sandbag, and I'll do squats to flat-out failure. Yeah. And then as soon as you drop the bag, go into a 100-meter sled sprint with whatever you got left. I'll be sore the next day,

but that's from the squats. Yeah, it's still not from the sled. Still not from the sled. And I've got even some newer people that have started who use the sled and they're like, yeah, not bad. Not bad. So I like that way of doing it,

especially for newer people. Yeah. Because how many different ways can you get people to put in work that aren't going to risk injury at all? Right. When someone's skill level is pretty low, you don't have a lot of tools at your disposal. Right. And nobody wants to fucking run. Amen.

I did have a thing. While we're still on the topic, I did, on one of the calls with Julian, I asked him, because I have a few clients with just some running issues, a little bit, like foot problems, shin splints. And I was like, I need some tips on correcting people's running. Or no, how did I word it? I think I worded it just like, I need some tips on running and something about, and I didn't do a very good job specifying that it wasn't me.

So I can't do his French accent. The first thing he says is, Tyler, you got no fucking business running. Yeah, yeah. What are you doing running? I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not for me. It's for a friend. Yeah.

Asking for a friend. But I did do a workout today that required a little bit of running, and I was not into it. When was the last time you ran? Like for the sake of running? Like that running was a thing that you were going to do that day, whether it was a mile or a 400. And not like pushing a, pushing,

pulling or like, yeah, yeah. Just like did a thing where you went running. No, I couldn't. I used to do that. Like before,

every time I worked out i'd run half a mile or a mile yeah i mean novel eight years ago yeah or i i would run like two miles every day that i worked out yeah but that like i'm saying that's like 10 years ago any leaner than you are now i was less muscular like probably like yeah like probably not like the same relative percentage you know just less of everything that was like my favorite one of my favorite things that i saw i think it was t nation had posted it recently i actually reposted it at our my crossfit gyms page was like if you have to do a ton of cardio to stay lean your diet sucks yeah right exactly like like if you're like gotta go running because you feel

like you're gonna like if you got to go get your miles in this week to try to keep fat away yeah then you're fucking up right because like there is a lot better ways to backwards way yeah there's a lot better ways to keep fat off your body yeah to answer the question i guess i i could literally never yeah i couldn't even say i can't can't remember I've like done row rowing uh yeah but no running I can't uh I'd rather even even to get hill sprints that's purposeful yeah I wouldn't count that as just running it's like uh I do do those but but no sprints have a purpose yeah I don't I don't believe that going and running four miles has a purpose.

Right, right. I mean, I'm not saying it's terrible for you, but like if you want to get leaner, it's a good way to get skinny fat. Do that all the time. You'll be skinny fat in no time. You're going to lose all the muscle you tried so hard to get. Yeah. So our new resolution is me and Tanner are going to run 15 miles a week, and we're going to lose 300 pounds on our total in six months. Sounds great.

Gain 10% in body fat all around our waist. But we're about wrapping up here for the week, Tanner. Did we get any sweet reviews while you were gone? If you were to guess how our fans did on the review department over the last couple weeks, what would you guess? Listen, I really want to give them the benefit of the doubt. How bad do you want to give them the benefit of the doubt? But I feel like they were going to leave me hanging if I really defend them.

I think they didn't do anything. They didn't do anything. You sons of bitches. I don't have... I am not a single review to report. We can make one up. Should have done that before we told them. Read a review from somebody else's podcast.

The Masonomics podcast. We did... We had put out the full video of the strongman competition that's out there on youtube oh yeah and that's pretty sweet yeah i've gotten some feedback on that that people like actually enjoyed uh watching that for the sake of watching it yeah that was it's a it's it's a long video but it's long like as in like a sporting event yeah it's like 45 minutes long, but it's nothing but the stuff. And we do the whole breakdowns of the points and stuff. Yeah, it turned out really good.

I would say it's on par with the World's Strongest Man's production value. More people in attendance, for sure. It's more like you feel more excited. I did have a review. Maybe I'll read one of of the reviews of that because there are some comments on youtube about it if i remember right it's been a bit since i've checked but i'm pretty sure there was a good comment that i did hear though i didn't watch the whole thing i kind of skimmed it because i was you know there yeah but i did hear that my top two log presses, the fucking battery died on the camera.

Your second to last one, it literally, like, you get the clean of it. Yeah. And then the last round of you and Greg, neither of them are on there. Oh, no. That's the only thing that got missed. And then the only, so the... Well well at least it was my fucking finest moment so that that got missed i think that was

a battery run out and then the only other thing out of the whole thing that got missed is uh ryan defay the start of his atlas stones i think there's a memory card run out in that oh yeah we had to quick do a change yeah so those are the two spots yeah so it's literally it's literally right as you're cleaning i think it's the second to last one you know it's like the 280 so did you did you put something in there like like yeah i put a frame like tyler did a really good job yeah it does say you got the 290 and greg was really handsome the whole time Randy and Greg missed it. He was really handsome the whole time. That's basically what it said, yeah.

Are you hunting it down or what? Let's see. All right, so I'm going to stall Mark Henry style. Talking about those shoes with the shoes, so it's colorful, and Half Thor's got the colorful shoes that are the same shoes that probably 20% of the people that squat wear. But for some reason, I've never seen them because I'm Mark Henry, and I have never even seen the Volt-colored Romelios at all.

Did you get it yet? Yeah, I got it now. That's how bad the hosting was at the Arnold, guys. And this isn't that good, but I've already made it this far, so I'm going to get rid of it. You're really committed to it. But it's Jeremy Nicholas, and he's a frequent commenter on YouTube. Top ten listener. Yeah.

He said, you realize how tall Tyler is when he is standing on the podium next to Tanner. And then he says, awesome competition. You definitely find yourself rooting for all the guys. Very cool. But I think that's pretty – That's kind of what the competition is supposed to embody he's picking up on what it really is i think if he noticed that i think that that's a

good good sign yeah but no that was fun that was a wrap for the our competition season i don't think anybody's doing anything thick nick's gearing up for powerlifting here in, is it November? Yeah, well, we did have a gym member that just competed in regional USAPL. That was this month. Nick was going to do that one, and he couldn't. He had a work thing. He should just quit that job. He should, but I think he still gets to technically compete in nationals, so he's probably planning on competing in nationals still,

and that'll be Orlando, December, or something like that okay okay uh we did have a guy uh big dave competed in regionals and i think his bench didn't go like he would like to but i can't remember his numbers i'm having a hard time remembering but squat and deadlift went well for him i think maybe prs but i know he had some trouble on his bench. Did Tyler compete in that one? No, he didn't either because he's been in Washington State for like the last four months for work too. So people with work, these jobs, getting in the way of things.

Priorities, man. So, well, I think that's going to do it for us today, guys. Thanks a lot for listening. I'll give you the rundown on the things we need you to do. We need you to go to massanomics.com. There you're going to find our articles, videos. You go to the store while you're there. You can buy all the cool stuff, shirts, hats, including the Weekend Warrior shirt.

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Yeah. With a little bit of everyone. And watch that if you haven't. It's funny. You'll laugh. We should repost that out. Yeah, yeah, we will. We should.

To a few things, because that's pretty fucking good. We will repost that. Interviews including Hafthor Bjornsson. Stan Efferding. Blaine Sumner. Stan Efferding. Chad Wesley Smith. Chad Wesley Smith. Mike O'Hearn, Bill Kazmaier, Pete Rubish, Big Shane Kowachnik. Pretty much all the biggest names.

All the big ones. So what else we got, guys? That's about it. Unless, Tommy, did you have anything? Tommy, do you have anything? I'm Tommy. My hair is so majestic and I'm so cool. Find me on Instagram, Tomahawk underscore D.

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