Massenomics Podcast - Ep.87: Our Christmas Gift Buying Guide

Episode Date: December 4, 2017

We ran down our jolly list of Christmas gift ideas for lifters.  We threw in several helpful tips when purchasing these products, and we discussed a bunch of different items that didn't actually make the original list.  If you've got a lifter to shop for, you should definitely give this a listen... BUT we know that most of you are just going to listen to find out what you should be buying yourself this year!  Read the article here. Check out the audio below. And remember to check it out on YouTube as well. If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2020.. Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong

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This one will be out next week. So the 1st of December. Yeah. 2nd of December. So December's good. Yeah. All right, everybody. Happy December.

We are just right in the middle of the holiday seasons here. Welcome to the Massanomics podcast. I am Tyler. Next to me is Tommy. What's up? And Tanner. Hey, everybody. So we are ready to rock and roll this week.

We want to kind of bring you guys up to speed on getting your Christmas shop and stuff. If you're like us, you most likely have not bought anything for anybody yet. I definitely have not. And you won't for several weeks. You won't even start thinking about it for several weeks. I might not do it at all. I do often wait until like the day before. Like you have Amazon Prime, but you still have to pay for overnight shipping.

Yes, yes. Yeah, that's how I do it too. Yeah, it sucks. But anyway, it's getting to that time where basically there's two ways we can go about this. We're not going to treat this like you're going to buy this for the power lifter in your life. Because the power lifter in your life is you. Right. And your mom's not listening to this. Your aunt, your fucking wife doesn't listen to this podcast.

So this is shit that you just need to put on your Christmas list. But maybe you should also tell them to start listening too. Tell them, listen, if there's ever one episode you're supposed to listen to of the massonomics podcast this is the one so you know what to buy me maybe you have lifting friends that are so close that you guys exchange christmas i mean there's some lifting secret santas i mean we do yeah we and by we i mean i expect you guys to buy me things. Maybe if your spouse also lifts, I suppose there's some of those out there. There's probably a couple. But anyway, this is the guide.

Even if we're not doing gift ideas, this is your shopping guide, basically. Kind of like how Black Friday shopping, ain't nobody in line punching somebody out for a TV that's for their fucking mom. You know what I mean? That you're beating somebody up for a TV that is going their fucking mom. You know what I mean? That you're beating somebody up for a TV that is going in your basement. My mom needs this. Yeah, right? Like none of those,

like that's the Black Friday thing always has been interesting to me because I have a hard time believing any of those people are buying that stuff for anyone but themselves. Yeah. That's, you know, it's like, well, time to get violent.

So speaking of violence, this week here here so we're going to run down we just put an article out here on the best christmas gift ideas for the serious power lifter in your life that is on massonomics.com you go to our articles tab you'll also be able to find that on our facebook page as well emphasis on the serious i mean yeah the seriousness it runs pretty deep on this one that is the key so let's just dive right in we're going to give you guys a little feedback on our experience with this this stuff and uh price range we got stuff down as cheap as 15 bucks um you can spend upwards of 500 bucks something for every budget we might even throw in some ideas that are way above that. Yeah, I might.

Yeah. I might throw in some that are cheaper. The first one, one of our personal favorites, is the bow tie by Donnie Thompson. For the uninitiated, this just looks like some straps you got on your shoulder. For those that have kind of been through the ringer here, this is really exceptional for just shoulder positioning um good compression right across the front of the shoulder um i have one my wife has one tanner you've got one i've got one your wife has one yeah there's several guys several guys at the gym that have have them we did we did a little review on this and of any review we've ever done i've had more

people like personally come up to me and been like oh what do you what do you really think about that you know what like dude if it sucked yeah like i'm like well i wrote wrote an entire article saying what i really thought about it like yeah that's what i really thought about if we thought it really sucked i we've never run into this before because we usually see we just wouldn't do it yeah we just wouldn't do it yeah like We're not going to do a review on anything that sucks. Especially when we buy the stuff too. I certainly wouldn't make the review like this thing is a piece of shit. Don't fuck it because it's just a waste of energy.

We would just not do a review. But if we put our stamp on it and we dig it, it's good. You're not going to see very many things other than a five-star review if we're going to get to that point. For sure five-star review if we're for sure to that point for sure and it's not to say that everything we just have really good taste we're choosing things that we know are good yeah you know yeah so if it's got our name on it it's worth buying bowtie by donnie thompson though 62 bucks they run sales on it i think there's a sale on it over the weekend i have a feeling for less than 50 yeah i have a feeling there will be sales on it. I think there's a sale on it over the weekend. I have a feeling. You can get it for less than $50. Yeah, I have a feeling there will be sales on it again here throughout the holidays.

You know. Spud Inc. Spud Inc. A really good company. Fucking everything. They make cool stuff. Check their shit out. Donnie Thompson, another cool guy.

You know, we've gotten to talk to him before. If you ever run into Donnie Thompson, talk to Donnie Thompson. He will start telling you stories. Donnie Thompson will go into stories. And not in a weird, irritating way. Donnie Thompson will start talking. You're like, whoa, why are you telling me this? I can't stop listening to this.

It's like if you run into Michael Jordan. He's like, all right, first off, Scotty Pippen was a bitch. You're like, Michael, let's hear it. I don't know if he felt like he had some sort of any kind of connection with us or if he just kind of knew who we were a little bit or knew what we were about a little bit and thought it was okay or if he talks like that to everyone. But if you tell him I'm an Accenture, I think he'll be nice to you.

Donnie's a great dude, fun dude to hang out with. Support him, Spud Inc. They do good shit. We have now at this point from the stuff in the Spud Inc. catalog, I would say we have countless things we have now at this point from the stuff in the spud ink catalog we have i would say we have countless things we can review at this point i've got their um you know my wife used their yoke training straps for a while until we got the full yoke um knee sleeves elbow sleeves elbow sleeves we got that hyper that stone strap i don't know much about that i still don't know i don't know anything about the stone strap we have it someone yeah someone has the uh like the the attachments for uh like cable yeah like the cable attachments for them too yeah everything's made well by them though

yeah this would be no exception so you can get that on amazon um if you want to click through our link on the massonomics article that would be ideal pay attention to sizing on that yeah and I think the sizing is pretty accurate I think so when people my recommendation if you're in between sizes which seems to come up a lot is go smaller because you're not wearing it all day no and you want

it to be tight like that's the idea if it's loose I don't think you're going to get much out of it so yeah so that's the bow tie here i think all of us have good things and the unique thing about that product it's kind of in a category of its own right that's what i was gonna say because we'll give you some other alternative recommendations there is alternatives to the bow tie but what they are is dirty fucking knockoffs of the bow tie right like that's it's just scuzzy companies too really shitty shit yeah like not a good look like lawsuit type of uh products and like oh we did a bow tie we got a fucking ratchet strap on the back yeah all right well yeah hope donnie wins in court and

and it's not his product itself isn't that expensive so it's not like you're gonna what are you saving yeah like get the good one so then we're gonna move on to the spd knee sleeves which um i will say i had had other knee sleeves in the past i have squatted in my spds now just three times and i can say they are exponentially of higher quality than the other ones that i don't and you squat an spd i squat an spds i've been i've used mine for a little over two years, right around two years. What have you had, yours? Three or four? Yeah, I've probably close to four, and I'll be honest,

mine are worn out now, but that's four years of wearing them two times a week. And you're not squatting 135 pounds. Yeah, and it's, I mean. You squat a lot. Them wearing out in four years, I still use them. They just are very stretched and don't have that same feel. Stink. It's a terrible stink.

Not the sleeve's fault. It's Taylor's fault. And my expectation is within four years, they probably should be worn out. My expectation is within a year and a half they should be worn out, but that's not the case. Right. And yours, you've made the comment before that yours seem tighter than the day that you bought them.

That's what they feel like sometimes. Because Tommy's so thick. Yeah, I'm blowing up, baby. And we mentioned in here that they just came out with a new color. And Tyler, you can probably tell. I have finally seen those in person, Tyler. I got the new color. It's like an optical illusion when you're looking at it.

They are barely blue. Because your brain says, that should be black. Why is that not black? It's almost weird that it's not black. Yeah. But if you want to stand out, I mean, I got the – it is kind of neat when we do look now because everybody in our gym, we got the sweet knee sleeve.

Stink rack. Stink rack. I tell you what, does not stink. No, no. No. It's just kind of weird. That is the only way to store knee sleeves. Yes.

We should probably have – We should sell that. Well, market those. Because every, I mean, you could use countless things that would serve that purpose. But every gym that's kind of like ours that people store stuff there should have one of those. You know, I've been in some gyms that like that and they don't have a place to store your knee sleeves. And if that's the place you're doing all your lifting, man, it'd be nice to leave your shit there. You have to, I suppose, you have to have a place to store your needs and like if that's the place you're doing all your lifting man it'd be nice to leave your shit there yeah you know like you have to i suppose you have to have a trust factor like that's different in different places most gyms aren't private

right you know like like i would not think twice about leaving my wallet no and cell phone on the table there right now like and like someone would track you down call you and be or you know try to get a hold i mean there are cameras but like so that is one deterrent but like i just wouldn't that doesn't matter anyways yeah about it but back to the knee sleeve so we go by this stink rack we got now and it is like 90 9 out of 10 are spds i think so easily. To me, they're kind of the gold standard. Main reasons being they are USAPL and IPF approved if you are at that level. That's a big factor. That is a big factor. Like Mark Bell, he's gone on to have the strong sleeves, which are the same length as this now too.

So from a spec standpoint, they're nearly identical, but there still is that factor that they are not IPF approved. So if you are a higher level person or think you will get there sometime, you kind of are future-proofing yourself a little bit by getting the SBD ones. You're protecting yourself from having to buy another pair of $80, $90 knee sleeves. Right. And not trying to dog slingshot or strong sleeves, but just to say it like it is, I haven't owned a pair of them, but a lot of people at the gym have and i've seen them break down quite a bit more than any pair of spds i've seen have yeah i think the newer version is better yes from the original version like tyler i think you struggled with the original ones didn't you i got let me fix my sound real quick i got a loud loud ear here i think i hope that's me and not one of you guys but um so sorry about that guys bad bad bad podcasting there um yeah so i i did have a pair

of the the slingshot sleeves which are not i don't think even meant to be on the level which would be the the reband copy basically yep and um those the original ones were of just a rougher i mean they actually were great right away but they just didn't hold up but again within eight months they started to wear out they didn't even bat an eye i sent i'd real quick just sent hey this is going on i don't know what to do here and this is what i'm seeing and they're like no worries we upgrade it we'll send you new ones right away they didn't even ask for the old ones back not that that they would want them, but sometimes, you know what I mean? Sometimes you don't want to get used to it. Like, if you buy a Massanomics shirt and you're like, oh, there's this and that,

like, we're going to be like, bitch, send it back already. Right. But, so they were actually really, really good about it. The new product came back and is much better, but it still is just a different, it's a different product. The Slingshot one is a very different product than the SBD. I do believe the Strong sleeves are probably closer. But I can't speak on them necessarily.

Didn't Ryan have those? Ryan has them. Ross does too. I know Ross has had hips for quite a while, so they have got a lot of use. But they are pretty beat up. The Strong ones? Yeah. The SBD, it seems like it is just one piece of material.

Yeah, I think there's something about the seam that the SPD has. And the strong ones, it's almost like there's added foam in the middle of it or something. That's actually the way my slingshot ones felt like, too. It felt like what there was is there's an outer coating that turns into this loose, weird-looking bag. Yeah. And then there is the actual, what seems like the neoprene. And the neoprene on the inside must not be what you want on your skin or something. But, yeah, the SBD.

But, like I said, I did it just to – I had never had knee sleeves before. I was like, well, geez, $90. What if I don't ever – I can't even – it wasn't solving a problem that I had. If I had used knee sleeves and wanted to replace them like now i was like well i'll just get the best ones i like knee sleeves at that time i had never even really used them so i was like i'm gonna not i'm not gonna spend as little as i can but i'm certainly not gonna spend get the most expensive but like most things you learn the hard way get what you pay for and now i got the most expensive ones. Yeah, they are. And I'm very happy with them. Yeah, they are the most expensive, I think, right?

Yeah, as far as I know. But are opinion worth it? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I wouldn't spend $70 or $80 on anything less. Literally on anything less. Size specific again. A lot of this stuff is. While we are on the topic of knee sleeves,

there is a lot of knee sleeves out there for like the crossfit space and in my opinion those are people are much rougher on those and they are simply squatting in them because they're getting all kinds of lunged in and drugged in running around yeah so people are could you imagine running in your spds no i don't think i don't think i could go upstairs and so um but these ones are a little bit smaller the reband style the little bit small what is it the five millimeters they're smaller ones five or seven i think so that sounds right whatever one a lot of them are almost like a little pre-bent in the shape of a knee right yes yep yep so they're not meant to give you they're

really just meant to keep you warm and give you a little cushion um my opinion on that is i have seen a lot of athletes use many different kinds from what is it from bear complex make some i mean there's just there's a ton of them out there um oh what is it the fucking wacky kinesio tape type places make some of that shit too but in my opinion get the rebands you got to be tricky if the rebound is the one place though that sells them one at a time one at a time and the they name them by model numbers which is always but i will tell you that i do believe rebound to be the highest quality you're not saving much by getting 10 bucks off for one that has a bunch of fancy colors rebound now has ones that have

colors like nobody gives a fuck about putting a clever design out for power lifting these sleeves a bunch of fancy colors. Reband now has ones that have colors. Like, nobody gives a fuck about putting a clever design out for powerlifting knee sleeves. If you go to CrossFit, that space there is every customizable option you can imagine. But I still would fall back on the rebands if I was, you know, if that's what I was looking for. Yeah, that makes sense.

All right, so now we have the Spud Inc. elbow sleeves. All the way to the upper body here now does make they do make these in these sleeves which actually is pretty slick to get on and off i would say probably for like a a good like utilitarian like they yeah like very affordable too yes that's a really big pro of any of the spud ink sleeves i had to say to someone to try knee sleeves just to try, and see if they're a thing you like. These aren't probably going to be the best ones for CrossFit stuff because they're not that padded. Right.

But they work really well. The Spud Ink ones, man, you can get your knee sleeve vibe figured out and get them on and off pretty easy. It's more almost like a heavy-duty sock that you're wearing, keeping you warm. But they're pretty well made. I use my elbow sleeves most of my bench sessions, at least the top quarter of them. And with elbow sleeves in comparison or contrast to knee sleeves, knee sleeves you can wear in powerlifting competition,

elbow sleeves you never can. So it's less important of what it is because it's only going to be a training tool because you can't utilize it in a competition anyways so the the kind of thing there is feeling better in all those weeks and months of training you know would be the the advantage of having a pair of elbow sleeves you know and for my elbow sleeves i got them tight enough to where they provide a fair amount of compression you know i've had a fair amount of elbow pain so they seem to work really well for that. But because of they're tight, I don't know how I would get these on if it didn't have the loops. Those straps.

And that's a really good picture of how they go on. So these actually come, their knee sleeves and elbow sleeves come with the little straps. You can put it on a barbell, on about anything that you can hook. And it works really well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I have these so tight that I actually can't keep them on between more than maybe a couple sets,

and I have to take them off or my hands start to go numb. And so I had to put them on and off. Like at our strongman competition this summer, I had to take them off between log presses, you know, just so I could feel my hands. Yep. Yeah, for strongman training, it's a good tool tool i think a lot of people have a pair of elbow sleeves yeah and i've been the durability i mean i've put these through the fucking ringer you know i've used them for

almost just just everything logs overhead pressing bench pressing um just you know i've had a fair amount of elbow problems, so I've kind of been like really doing anything I can to baby it. These have been really good. I really, really, really enjoy them. Tommy, you've got the knee sleeves. You haven't worn them a lot, right? I haven't worn them a lot, but I've also worn them as elbow sleeves too to keep me warm.

That's another point. Because they work both ways. They're just a little longer. Tommy's arms are fucking huge. Even with the material those ones are made out of, the knee sleeve I'm assuming is probably a little longer than their elbow sleeve, but just the nature of that material, you can just fold it down, and you're basically at the same length anyway.

When we did the Strongman, I used them on the log press. My knee sleeves were these on my elbows. They look kind of baller. I don't know. I like them. I used them on the log press. My knee sleeves were these on my elbows. And they look kind of baller. I don't know. Yeah, I think they look cool. I like them. I think they look pretty fucking cool. Like you could get a very crisp looking, like my wife has some SPD elbow sleeves.

Again, very well made, very expensive. I've got those too. Kind of a fucker to get on and off. Yeah. And you're like, if you're doing it by yourself, you only got one hand. It's different with your knee sleeves. You got two hands on it. What are you going to do if they're giving you trouble?

So these are easy to get on and off, and I think they look pretty cool. They look like they're there to put in work. For sure. And they're not there to fucking impress chicks. They're just there to do the deal. At $29, you can't hardly go wrong. That is really cheap. impressed chicks they're just there to do the deal at 29 you can't hardly go wrong and that is that is really cheap and as i'm looking through our list this is of might be it oh i think it's one

of the deal i think i think the elbow seats specifically are of probably the best bang for your buck nearly i may i may revisit this as we get that'll be we could go we could all put our vote in between that the buyer's choice between that and the pioneer products yeah i think the pioneer part of the quality is so high yeah but i do believe the elbow sleeve is what they give you for what you get for what you pay is yep i think that's really really really worth it and on the on the topic of elbows here um you guys could have a little more input on this than I do. But, you know, we also talked on there are the SPD ones too. If you are that person that wants that neoprene, if you have any preference there.

Strong sleeves, they also offer neoprene ones, which there's a few guys in the gym that have those. So we see some of that too. And also some of those guys with elbow pain go with the compression cuffs too. I just got a couple pair of those. And I have never used them, but there's quite a few guys in the gym that like them, and that's also a very cheap buy. And from the sounds of it, it is pretty helpful for a lot of guys. That would be a good item on the list that's not there.

We said we're going to talk about some other things. That compression cuff. There's some guys that I just have never seen without it. Right. Like for a while, you, Tanner, even. Yeah, I mean, if I got back to benching again, I would be wearing those because those, like, in this pain you get. Like, if you bench heavy for a long time,

a lot of people get this thing in here that hurts, and that helps. Like, while you're going through your sets, it enables you to kind of. Are you just trying to, like, mocking me that I don't bench heavy, Tanner? No, I'm just saying, like, probably the pain doesn't... Like, not everyone has the problem, you know, but I've seen a lot of guys do. Yeah. You know, a lot of our guys get that weird... It's almost like your bicep or the top of your forearm, like a really painful pump type thing.

And that is probably a better cure than elbow sleeves for that specific thing. And so what I've had, which is pretty stereotypical, like tennis elbow, I ordered some tighter compression cuffs and I'll use them. I almost have to use it for things like curls where there's any sort of rotation and grip. If I have to hang on to something and pull it up,

it fucking hurts so bad. And I've had these cuffs for a couple of weeks now and and i even did some irresponsible trying to do brian shaw grip stuff the last few days and like which is always really bad on my elbow on my tennis elbow um and while it did hurt when i did it i don't have this this constant pain and that's what would happen before is it would hurt all of the time, no matter what I did. And I feel a lot better going around. I crush skulls with this hand again.

That's another thing, though, where you were talking about your elbow sleeves. Sometimes if those are tight enough, I find sometimes I want to take them off too where I'm like, ooh, that is. Like Chuck. Chuck has elbow sleeves, and he takes them off between every single bench bench set he says they're they're just not comfortable to leave on yeah yeah but i think you know if compression's what you want that's that's the ticket there yeah um so let's move on to the bulk supplements creatine now this is creatine in general i think yeah creatine on its own we're okay with Will this make me fail a drug test, though?

No. Oh. Never mind. But the, no, so as far as creatine goes, I'm a big proponent. I think Sean's has validated that on the scientific side as well as literally the entire scientific community. I think that's just becoming more and more popular that don't do anything crazy with your creatine. Just get something simple and cheap. Literally don't buy it because there's no –

It is cheap, so you shouldn't be having to spend a lot of money on it. If you want to buy expensive creatine, just buy the cheap stuff, and then you can throw the rest of your money in the garbage or something. Yeah, buy the cheapest creatine you can buy. Buy a lot of it because you should just take it for all the time. We've gone over it in the past kind of ad nauseum but you know the research i'll parrot is basically the benefits of creatine are many while subtle but the down negatives of it are basically non-existent um will your balls shrink no oh no that's a different that that

whatever you're taking for that will make you fail a drug test but the uh the creat, the creatine side of things now, like it's been so well studied over the last 15 years, there's no question marks about it except for the things that can, at least in the performance realm. Um, so now the, the, the negative side effects are non-existent, but the positives continue to grow for things like mental acuity, um, staving off, um, Alzheimer's, dementia, those other things. It's good for your brain, probably even more so than it's good for your body. And it's fucking cheap. You can see on our list we do not have a whole bunch of supplements.

This is the only supplement on there. We don't give a fuck about supplements. Right. Because my opinion is if it costs money, that money could go towards food. So what are you doing? And so like, because unless your food game is on point and you're rich, like then we'll talk. But like, I mean, supplements are really only necessary when all your other bases are covered. This is something you're probably not going to cover with just food.

Yeah. You'd have to eat a lot of red. I don't know the specifics of it. Yeah. So basically though, you can get 400 servings. So that is good for about 13 months, 13 to 14 months for $19.89. Okay. And I'll get it on Amazon.

Don't listen. Have you had this brand before? Yes. I got this brand. I got the smaller bag. Right. Just because I don't know how big probably lasts seven months yeah but like but in this case yeah i will get this the next time because this is

how much i paid for two months worth of another brand from like bodybuilding.com which is just fine too but this company bulk supplements.com totally doesn't sponsor us at all but they make their supplements are just the thing that they say it is. Nothing else. The process is streamlined. It's not garbage. You're just getting one thing. Most of it's unflavored.

Fortunately for you, unflavored creatine doesn't taste like anything, so you're fine. I'm also assuming they probably don't run huge ad campaigns and have a ton of sponsored athletes, which is good because I don't like all the savings on to you 19 8 19.89 400 servings you'll be good on creatine for a year uh just i don't know don't be a dick just do that i get asked all the time what supplements should i take well first off you should take zero yeah if you want to take one to have some skin in the game yeah creatine's the one yeah but people are well, when am I going to start noticing it?

And I'm like, you're not. No. You're not. But over the average of this year, like over a year, you will be a little bit better. This is the best one we know of. And you won't notice it. This is the best one, but it will not do basically anything for you. I mean, it will, but.

It works, but you're talking like less than a percentage of an improvement, which still makes it the single most fucking effective supplement out there. The only, you know, on a different case is caffeine, of course. It's measurable. Right, right. But caffeine is so easy to tell what it does you know but and that's what most supplements do when you get into some shitty like scam supplement caffeine on it because you're gonna feel you have so much energy and you feel lifted it's like yeah

there's 200 milligrams of caffeine in there and then you get what you end up is with with all these housewives who don't even train who are like like oh my god ever since i've been taking this fucking stupid ass advocate product or whatever the fuck isogenics, whatever bullshit they're selling, fucking thrive, whatever, all that bullshit.

They're like my energy. They always say my energy levels are just through the roof. I'm like, cause you're taking 400 milligrams of caffeine first thing in the morning. And again at 11 and then you're like, Oh, and then I have it in my magic fucking keto powder juice now. And there's another 200 milligrams of caffeine.

No wonder your energy is through the roof. You're fucking mainlining coffee and sugar. So fuck all that. Take creatine. Buy the cheap stuff. It'll go the distance. So now we move on to one of our – I'm going to do – we'll cover all the Pioneer stuff here. Sounds good.

Probably. So one of our favorite. Again, we don't make any money from Pioneer. We just really like them and what they do. And Matt is pretty awesome. They just do a good thing there. So the athletes that they choose to represent and choose to work with are all good dudes. That's the right group of people.

That's a good package to have for them. So Pioneer makes figure eight lifting straps they are they also make regular lifting straps too yeah but the figure eights that they many materials and styles and sizes and colors fucking but anyway the the figure eights are the picture almost doesn't even do them justice because they are fucking robust yeah it is heavy duty canvas you're not ripping these ones no it's not happening not a chance so now i have probably a unique experience with these in that i am hands are too fucking big yeah not completely unique i have there are people with your hand size have a problem with

the figure eight style lifting but i will preface this here unless you have hands easily the biggest hands of anyone that you know in your regular life just buy the regular ones you'll be fucking fine yeah but now if you are the person who literally nobody you come into contact with over six months at a time has bigger hands than you um maybe see about having some custom ones made for you. And they'll do that. I went up a size and got the axle size straps, and they are just a touch big for me on a regular size.

How do they work on the axle? Great. Yeah. Yeah, great. And a little snug, but in a good way for me. Yeah. But anyway, you guys have used these a lot. I've used them a lot.

You guys use them in our Strongman stuff. I really like them. I very rarely use straps. But when I do, it's these ones. guys have used these a lot um you guys use them in our strongman stuff i really like them i i very rarely use straps um but when i do it's these ones and i like it a lot i like them way more than the what do you what do you even call this the normal style of straps just wraparounds or i don't know what you'd call them i don't know just what you think of when you act normally think of lifting straps that's after using these there's no using those other ones i mean i have actually just out of pure laziness of not getting these out but these are much more convenient than yeah and it's

you're not going to lift more with one or the other it is purely preference so there is always going to be we're kind of in agreeance that we like this style but there's always going to be people that like the other ones and like we said it is purely preference but yeah i do like the position that my hands go in with these and if you're really sold on the other style, Pioneer makes some really heavy-duty versions of those. I think they do leather and canvas with those, too. But the price on these are fucking legit. $30. Can you imagine a scenario with which you need to replace them?

No, no, no. I don't think so, yeah. Your other ones will probably run you anywhere between $12 and $20-some dollars, and those will break at some point. And something like that, if you're buying it for a gift, it makes sense because it's probably something that a lift, you know, there's a good chance a seasoned lifter doesn't have it but would be interested in trying it out.

Be like, oh, yeah, that's cool. And if they're the one person at their gym that has them, they gonna get fucking used yeah for sure oh dude i want to try that yeah and it's not like knee sleeves where you're not ever gonna let somebody try them yeah at the at our the massanomic strongman um a lot of people wanted to use them because it's like oh those are nice yeah let's try that out did people at the uh strongman nationals on the the frame most of them use figure eights yeah because that would be so much faster to uh say it was you know it is a little bit tricky though to on the side with the one hand on the side yeah um but more i would say more than half had figure eights um that's the route i would for sure go when you're when it's a part of the time and especially

on just the fact if i had to choose on a frame i would want the figure eights because i have you have a little bit of leeway to not have you don't need to wrap your yo i don't even have when i use these i i don't wrap my thumb i don't put my thumb around the bar even anymore you don't need there's see for me i'm so over it though i'm so far under that i though i can't get my thumb over my knuckles are turned too far so it pulls me too far down but no i would agree like on a frame, frankly, if I was on a frame, I'd use my fucking axle straps and let that fucking slack and be like, I don't know. Let's talk about what the rules say.

Right. That's a good, that's actually a good point. Cause like, then what's the difference though? I suppose. Yeah. There's maybe there's a little bit of a gray area there, but, but that's what I would try for sure. But they, I don't know yeah for sure um but they i don't know they're just awesome i don't know nobody's ever used them be like these fucking suck they take some getting used to that's the

biggest thing if someone if someone at the gym or anywhere isn't super in favor of them it is because it is a slightly different position and setup and everything yeah yeah you know if you're me though like because i start with the bar especially on deadlifts i start with the bar forward in a really accessible position so i can spend all the time dicking around with my hands you know if you're a person that that just gets to the bar grabs and goes any straps are going to be a problem but these might be a little more to do that's i hate setting up i don't you know when i deadlift i just like to basically bend over and grab the bar within you know a couple seconds and deadlift and this helps me with the strap thing because i can

still do a similar thing yeah and if you want to hear us more in depth on these things we do have a review on our website and some video of literally putting them up you know using going using them so yeah um let's let's cover matt's stuff first here so um then we're going to go down to belts uh we are basically locked in here on pioneer as far as belts go yeah i'm on there's the only footnote to this would also be the ipf thing so if you are like a national level or world level competitor now you went through some of the stuff that matt had posted on other belt reviews do you know what of the ipf approved stuff that was maybe the ones that he gave the highest rating i think he really liked best belts

yeah and they might be ipf i believe they are they are yeah and think they are. Yeah. And then outside of that, kind of the other big name would be Inzer. And there's some pros and cons to Inzer. What's the SPD? The SPD is that thing is almost in a league of its own because we're talking like, is that about $300? Yes. Yeah. And that's the one with the totally vertical style. It's an adjustable lever.

Yeah. So they're a different category. But we're talking about just a – But for the mass population, this is the one to go with. Yes. If you're going to lift, this is your shit. And so this is here. We're going over the four-inch power lifting belt.

There's really any number of things that you can do with these, literally any number of things you can do. But the 10-millimeter thick, four-inch single-prong pioneer belt is going to work for almost everybody. And that's, is that what you have? Well,

I have the insert. Oh yeah. That's what Ryan. Yeah. Ryan. Yes. Yes. And so this is,

yeah. And I'm kind of a good case of, I own an insert 13 millimeter lever belt. And then my brother has the pioneer four inch single prong, 10 millimeter belt. And I usually use his belt more than I use my own. And part of that is the difference between a single-prong and a lever. I've also had the experience using a double-prong.

I really like a single-prong. I honestly don't see any advantage to a double-prong. I don't know if you guys are single or double. Mine is single. I don't even understand why. Matt himself, I've seen him ask questions that people ask about the double prong and he's like just get the single yeah there is there is not an advantage there is that i could maybe see is if you had a guy with a lot of belly mass maybe and really really really really really really high weights well just in that the i have the belt be able to turn across like a single pivot point versus two so if it's

tensioned there there can't be any rotation in there but jesus christ that's a problem i can't even fucking imagine yeah yeah so i don't know so yeah that's why i i have to recommend like the single prong it is just awesome um and then the nice thing about single prong belts is they are adjustable so like for me i like when i'm squatting i like my belt to be about as tight as i can possibly get it when i'm deadlifting when it's that tight i can't get into a good position so i like it slightly looser on deadlift single prong lets you do that the 10 millimeter comes feeling like it's broken from day one like the leather is like butter i got mine and i fucking like i wanted to lick it yeah yeah god it feels like a fucking steak yeah yeah so good like i

couldn't i was like i was like has this thing been used yeah there's no plastic feeling anywhere on it um the stitching craftsmanship all the the details, they are top-notch. Mine, from the day I got it to now, I don't even know how many months it's been. I've had it for many months now and use it all the time. It still will, I can hold it up and it will stay completely straight. You know what I mean? It's just a very, yeah, it doesn't, I mean, it's just a really quality material. And they will also, when you pick your size, a big dilemma with belts is your sizing.

A lot of people, for whatever company you're with, it's tough to figure out what size because you're kind of always on the top end of one where it's like, if I get much bigger, this belt's no good. Or you're way on the small end of the other and you've got to ratchet that belt all the way down every time you use it. But Matt will, I believe, if you tell him in the notes, position the center hole to be what your waist size is. So that gives you, again, that kind of future-proofing if you're going to go through any major bulking or cutting cycles. That'll keep that belt working for you.

Also, to speak to the longevity and quality of these, Ryan's belt that he's had for almost two years now has been used by everyone in the gym. Multiple times. Multiple times per day for a couple years. I mean, since he's had it. And it's to the point where you can see every single belt hole, the mark that the belt itself is leaving. I mean, it's like leaving stripes down the belt. But it is wearing consistently across all of them. And there's no issues with anything given out on it.

As far as the other belts that they have, here's where I'm at now. I got the plain Jane, white leather outside, black suede inside. I think it was like $80, $85 or something like that. What's the price on this one? $80. It's like $80. That's a non-customized belt. That is another good point though. With Pioneer,

you can get this belt in non-custom. You can get this belt for $80 and have it to your doorstep in two weeks or so. Whereas a lot of other companies like in my own experience, I ordered a non-custom belt and you just get an email saying, thank you, we've received your order. Then you just wait and sometime in my own experience, I ordered a non custom belt and you just get an email saying,

thank you. We've received your order. And then you just wait. And sometime in the next one to two months that will maybe show up on your doorstep. Yeah. Um, yeah. So we really can't say enough good things, but with the actual product itself, my four inch single prong, 10 millimeter belt is one of the best purchases I've made ever. Does yours have the tapered end like that one in the picture? I recommend that. I also like the tapered end. There's no reason not to.

I just don't know why you wouldn't. Yeah, I like that tapered end. It's a good look. It's just easier to do. You don't want to dick around with having it. I mean, you can go in mindlessly with a tapered end. And you're all about going in mindlessly, right? Going in mindlessly. Don't even think about it.

Don't even think about it. So then there is the – so I want to move up now and get a 13-millimeter. I want to get a 13-millimeter single-prong belt, and then I want to get a 13-millimeter lever belt too. And so it's like – And i want one of them to be fully customized right your price is going to go up a lot when you customize it yes that's the trait you can get a very reasonably priced belt not customized from them that's going to be as good a quality if not better than anywhere else yeah but if you want to spend the money

and have it look really baller or you know really really get someone the gift of their dreams right yeah that's the deal when you're talking if you are going to get a gift for somebody yeah like that is you can do some exotic leathers you're measuring them up while they're asleep is a little weird maybe i'm sure maybe if you contact matt he can probably work out some sort of gift card option for you. Yeah, for sure. For sure. If you want to just be like, listen, here's a $300 cap on a fucking deal. Because you could get a really, really, about anything you wanted for $300.

Yeah. And I mean, anything. And it's fucking cool. I want, see, that's the deal is I really want an exotic. Like I want. Like a leather, elephant leather. No, made from like the beaks of bald eagles. I want the...

A walrus penis. Only a walrus penis. What would PETA hate the most? Like what animal would be the most disturbing for you to be able to make a film? But I want to make it from such a small part of the animal and then require that they throw the rest of the animal away uh i yeah so 13 millimeters no problem that's what i deadlift with is a single prong 13 millimeter it's an elite fts made by it is

pioneers 13 millimeter belt and i i love that uh belt and that's the reason i want a 13 because that's what i was using before i got this was yours and i loved it i like that belt a lot it's and same and that's uh that one that i use is not uh what is that felt or not oh there's no it's not suede that is solid leather and i like that which that also he what makes them unique is as far as i know they are the only belt manufacturer where you can do a solid piece of leather. Everyone else has, at the very least, a piece of suede on one end or two pieces of leather together. For the 13. Yeah.

But you can get a solid. They got them fat cows down in Texas. And if you're wondering still why we break up Pioneer so often, we did an interview with Matt a while back here, and that's linked here. It's pretty long, but it's really interesting, I think. And after you read it, you'll probably just want to buy a Pioneer belt, I think, without question. That was one of those interviews where we had kind of went back and listened through on the call and put together the whole article,

and we're like, geez, we've got to find a way to trim this down. We're like, ah, fuck it. to trim this down we're like ah fuck it we own this company we're doing whatever the fuck we want like it's good it's all really good information so um you want to get the story behind pioneer and why they make such good shit that's where to find it so so we're going to roll back up here to the oh obviously oh it's time to start hustling some of our own what is that i heard that this really cool massonomics company here massonomics.com makes some dope ass shirts and i'll be damned it made the list damn i'm flattered that's amazing i'm blushing right now that we made this list

um anyway this the weekend warrior shirt is probably hands down our most popular shirt. There's a lot of really strong dudes and women out there that wear it. A lot of them. Some of the strongest in the world. Just about all of them. Yeah. A lot of them really do. It's pretty unanimous.

Yeah. So listen, you're just going to have to go to massanomics.com. It's peppered all over the shirt. Go to the articles. You can see. Or into the store, you're going to be able to buy that there. So that's $21.95 if you buy multiple items. Over $50 if you get free shipping.

And if you have this in the shirt form, we make a hat version of it. We also make a water bottle version of it. And if you have those, I mean, we have just Masonomics gear too. So no reason to not look cool. Honestly, your best bet when it comes to christmas shopping this year is to just find out what shirt and hat size the person is and basically just buy them one of everything in our catalog yeah i think is your best bet definitely if you want them to love you yeah i mean and not resent you forever yeah otherwise it's a really

comfortable shirt too it is it's one of my faves so I don't want to dwell on that too long, but it's awesome. Buy it. I don't know. You just should. Look it up. Yeah. If you're listening to us at this long, 80-some episodes in, and you still don't have it, you're slacking.

Yeah, definitely. Then we're talking here, Chalk Nest Monster Chalk here. Chalk is a must for any serious power lifter. Unfortunately, not all gyms provide it um chalk nest monster makes chalk in basically blocks and the super sweet bags i saw thick nick we were down here we're down at the gym the other day and he was uh trying to chalk up his own back oh so he had a little bag and he's trying to laugh at himself on the back it seems like that's the yeah the long way yeah and you don't have this we're not real

brand loyal when it comes to chalk no just get whatever's cheap yeah make sure it's chalk but this is like this is a good brand eight eight blocks for fucking 14 right and it's kind of funny you'll at least open up and it says ha it says chalk nest monster hey if it can make you smile if there's a pun if you can make if you can make your chalk marketing funny yeah that's why you made this list yeah so um we'll move down to the nose torque one of our personal favorites we cut we talk about nose torque like every third we actually do lately it seems like um they do sell them in um single-use capsules and then the bottles that are good for how long you suppose those bottles are good for once you open them. What are you finding?

I think it's good. A couple months. I was going to say it's really good for them. Like we're in a gym where a lot of people use it quite frequently and it's really good for at least a month. And that's what the cap getting taken off pretty regularly. If you're on your own and it's capped quite a bit, you're probably getting more use out of it than that. And one quick funny note about this,

I went to a semi-pro or whatever hockey game this weekend, and the trainer medics or whatever you call them, they had the packets, and they were going like candy. And even the coaches, the coaches and the medics and everyone going like candy and even the coaches the coaches and the medics and everyone was just sniff them all the time really yes all like they were all over the place and like my family all knows about uh this stuff so we're all kind of everyone's pointing it out and watching this both both teams are using it constantly really i just thought that was funny it's becoming an epidemic. Yeah. People using drugs. We got the 531, Jim Wendler's 531 second edition book.

Because knowledge is power. Knowledge is power. And this, I would say, is if you have, even for like a young lifter. Oh, yeah. You got a young kid maybe trying to learn their way around the weight room, doesn't know anything about what program they are doing, what their coach is putting in front of them or maybe just doesn't have a clue five three one is a is an exceptional starting point i think everybody's done some sort of variation of this program at some point in

their life anyone who's strong has and you don't even have to do the program for this to be a good book and the principles just really make sense right and yeah exactly and that's what it this is a very good book and there'd be other options out there that the same way where like maybe you could spend a little less time like reading some articles on like t-nation and like just get a good book yeah and read that and i think you get a lot more out of not that a lot of those articles aren't bad but you can get a lot more out of this yeah there's a lot of those articles aren't bad, but you can get a lot more out of this. Yeah.

There's a lot less conflicting information on something like this. And this is a really easy read. Like anyone can pick this up and you read it in a couple days. Yeah. Yeah. And if you happen to just spill fucking water all over it, you can buy another one on Amazon Prime and give that version to Sergeant Ryan. Yeah. If you go to Mastodonics Gym,

you don't need to actually buy this. There's a copy hanging up in there in our library. It has some water damage, but it's the spare. We're going to move down to shoes here. We got the Reebok Legacy Lifter Shoe. We did basically preface this with, be careful with shoes. Power lifters can be very picky on whether they prefer

a heeled shoe for squatting or a flat sole shoe um if you know what your lifter likes to that they like to squat in heeled shoes then this could be a pretty cool gift um the nike romelios adidas adipower similar shoes probably countless others yeah i mean there's there's a handful of others when it comes to heels in my opinion, when it comes to a heeled shoe, you're either going to go the full heel or fucking don't. Like, I don't like the – I've never – Adidas makes another one. We have a couple.

Not the power lift. Yeah, and that's a much lower heel. Reebok makes one that is a – I wear that one sometimes. That is a much lower heel. But, like, the the heel in my opinion and you can feel even on yours you're like the quality of that shoe versus like a room that's a totally different way different yeah there's a reason or a third of the price yeah so in my

opinion if you're gonna go this goes for weightlifters and crossfitters too if you're gonna go with shoes that have a specific have if you're gonna use a heel to squat do the whole heel. And don't do the half inch. These things are going to last you forever because you're wearing them to squat in, maybe to bench in. That's about it. You're not running in them. I've had mine over a year now.

Actually, I'm going on almost two years. They look pretty much brand new, don't they? I mean, they look brand new. So you have what, the Adipower? Yep, yep. I have those ones i like them um i'm still not a huge raised heel squat guy i've just i'm glad that i've got to trial and error with it enough and i still do bounce back occasionally just for something a little different but when it comes to me doing

my best squats i just feel like i can't get those to work the best for me i do really like to wear them for bench i don't know why maybe just to say i can't get those to work the best for me. I do really like to wear them for bench. I don't know why. Maybe it's just to say I can wear them. Even if it's placebo. It keeps the heel on the ground. Yeah, it is. Even if it's placebo, I'll take it.

These heeled shoes are not cheap. No. These are one of the more expensive shoes. That is one thing to pay attention to, though, because with mine, all of these retail for like $200. I think that's pretty across the board. My Addy Powers, when I got those, it was, I believe, a Black Friday deal on Amazon Prime. So they were on Amazon.

I think it was, they were normally like $150, which you can find a lot of them on sale for $150. And then they had a Black Friday deal for an extra, I think it was like 15% off. So after that $150, I think it was like 15% off. So off of that $150, I got like another like $30, almost $30. So I ended up getting them for about $120, which is not a bad deal at all for those. And I think, you know, occasionally the Nikes are on sale. Nike makes a ton of colors, so they have styles going in and out of style. I've been trying out the Romaleos the last few weeks,

and it just all depends on if you like heeled shoes or not. Yeah, it's either your thing or it's not. And if your guy or gal is not a heeled shoe person, you probably can't go wrong buying somebody a pair of Chucks. They're either going to lift in them or they're going to fucking wear them around. Until that dang power shoe comes out. We're waiting on that Mark Bell and Reebok. How's this pronounced?

I always say Sabo, but I don't know if that's even right. Sabo deadlift shoe. One of a kind. It's a specialized shoe. I haven't worn this ever. I've started to notice this becoming way more popular on Instagram. Unless it was just not being aware of it, but I don't remember really seeing it much about a year ago.

And it's not uncommon at all to see people wearing it now. Larry Legend has the Sabo deadlift shoe, that exact shoe right there. I think a different color. And Thick Nick has the Sabo goodlift shoe, which if you're interested in buying one, read their differences and their descriptions. What is that one? It looks a lot like this, and it's also a flat bottom shoe.

It's just a bit more squattable, maybe? I think so. I think it's more made for flat-soled squatting a little bit. But if you're really interested in it, I would read between the differences and what they say of the two. But they seem like, from Larry's and Nick's that I've seen, they seem pretty cool looking. The build seems good.

They don't seem cheap. No. And they're not $200 either. No, they're much more reasonably priced. They're $90. Again, if you do want to get a shoe that's similar and you are on more of a budget, you know we're kind of looking at an over-glorified wrestling shoe here. So I know you can always find like Asics and Adidas for anywhere from $30 to $50.

But yeah, Sabo is the powerlifting specific. Then we get down to the bars. So for the powerlifter, this becomes a good gift. There's no powerlifter that's going to hate this gift, right? No, I don't think so. And this is like, you do this right, I mean, this gift could almost be a lifetime. yeah so here we have the rogue ohio power bar um basically this this the price is 275 bucks um but it is fucking good like that that is now they do make whatever there is, there's a few versions. This is $2.75 for the black shaft, zinc, and 45-pound bar.

We have the 20-kilo bar, which is a little more expensive than this, but most people probably don't care. You just get the 45-pound bar it's you know 25 cheaper our ohio power bar is my hands on my favorite bar to bench with for sure i just and i only bench with it the first time because it was simply on the bench kind of lives on the bench yeah it does yeah like i just i really really really like that bar i just it feels really good in my hands it looks really good it looks good it's a beautiful bar the knurling feels fantastic yep um it's really nice it'd be hard to find a bad thing to say about it i think no only the price i think is the price is solid yeah the price is awesome

the only knock we ever have with it is the collar itself is so narrow. Depending on the squat rack it's in, your plates... That's because we have the 20-kilogram. Yes, yep. So depending on the rack you have it in, your setup, everything, you can bump the weights a little easier coming out when you're squatting, but that is also a squat-specific problem and also dependent on your rack setup, too. If you lift out of a stand, it's not going to be a problem, but a lot of people don't actually lift out of a stand is not going to be a problem, but a lot of people don't actually lift out of a stand.

Also, another good bar, if we had to make another recommendation, would be the Texas Power Bar. Yep. We have a couple of those in the gym. Tried and true classic. What do you like better? It's hard to say. This Ohio Power Bar that we have is newer,

so it's a little bit unfair to compare them because we have the other ones longer they're a little more worn they've been put through the ringer way more and then to compare them yeah new to three years old right is a little but but still i think it's still fair to compare them yeah i really do want to get my hands on one of Chris Duffin's new. They'd be cool to see. I was this close to buying both the Power Bar and the Duffalo Bar, both because shipping was free, and if you bought two bars, you could get 15% off. So it's still going to be $1,000 to get both bars.

But I was this close. We will have those both bars, but I was this close. We will have those both eventually, and it could have just as well been yesterday that those were on the way, but I just didn't. But it'll be an inevitable, and I really want the Duffalo bar, but the more I think about it, I really want that power bar just to stack it up against them. Now, one nice thing that we could do when we do get the duffalo is we have adequate then comparison between the duffalo and the buffalo yeah and the price difference and we know it would give us an opportunity to do a little bit

of you know legwork here and getting you know we could have we have plenty of guys that use them both that use them you know i use the the buffalo Nick was using it. Shane was using it. You use it. Yep. I think we've got a lot of guys that use it. It would be good to do head-to-head. And then we could have guys give their feedback on, like, just real quick, what do you think the difference between the two?

What do you like? And I think it'd be interesting to see. I'm near certain that Duffin's Duffalo Bar is better. I believe that it is. I do believe it is better. I believe that it is. It is significantly more expensive. I want to find what I want to do is find the, the, the,

the, the pie filling of how much better it is and see if it adds up to the price difference. Right. It's really where that's, that's the, we're not even debating that it's not better. We know that it's better,

but it is the, you know, three times the price or in the case of the power bar, twice price yeah but that fucking power bar his looks beautiful it really for just a yeah the knurling the up close on the knurling is sexy the whole thing just is is a really good looking bar um we're gonna move down to the rhino flex band bell bar um this thing gets a ton of use down at massanomics Gym. This bar basically... To the point where we almost need a second one. Yeah, seriously.

Basically, it's the... What's their other one? What was their other one called? The Earthquake Bar. The Earthquake Bar. We also have that. And that's kind of... It's not plate-loadable.

It's more meant for hanging bands and doing a lot of really active... And it is a different feel. I would almost say it's almost different exercises between the two. But the band bell is just awesome. I don't know. It's a good feel. You can change a lot of things by just changing your weight placement.

You can load some real weights on so you can move heavy instead of just have it really come alive. Yep. And it feels good. It just feels softer on things. It's really hard to describe, but the only way I can say is it just feels softer on your body. And you can do more than bench press with it. Bench press is where people go with it most commonly, you see.

But you can really use it. I shoulder press with it every week, twice a week. It's like the one thing that feels so much better on my shoulder and I don't even know why exactly, but I just know that it does. You know, that's proof enough for me anecdotally. This bar's 350 bucks, but I mean, it's really well made. It's well made. It is a joy to use.

It's also, here's really well made. It's well made. It is a joy to use. Yep. It's also, here's the deal. If you're buying somebody the Ohio Power Bar, you're buying them a bar that is probably maybe redundant in their lives. They have a bar that they're squatting and benching with. It's probably just an upgrade maybe. It is definitely going to be an upgrade most likely depending on who it is. However, this will fill a need with which I know they don't have that base covered.

So for the lifter who's got everything, get them this However, this will fill a need with which I know they don't have that base covered. Right. So if you want to – Definitely. So for the lifter who's got everything, get them this because they probably don't have this yet. Yep. And it's fucking awesome. We've got 40 guys and everyone who's used it has been like, that's the shit. So I suppose these bars, for the person – if you were really going to buy this as a gift, for the person if you were really going to buy this as a gift it's probably someone that has a garage gym i guess because most people aren't going to bring this to their commercial gym

maybe someone that lifts in a place like ours but that doesn't happen a lot i suppose a bit of a cult but there's a lot of people that lift in garage you know have their own home gym there is a lot of little clubs yeah yeah where it's like this is my bar yeah you know yeah you can use it but they do make bar locks also that you can uh really yep really yep wow yeah so does that work just on the on the on the car on the end of it and it's got a key no shit so you can't you know one end you could actually slide plates on but the other one yeah yeah so i guess you could do that if you don't like anybody you train with so we're going to move down to to some uh as far as

speaking of garage gyms um if you have somebody that's looking to get a stout start maybe start get yourself and this is i mean this is good equipment a good bar bar, like the Ohio bar, is going to be good for everything you do. Then you go to Titan Fitness, their T3 power rack and bench. For the price, you can't fuck up. You just can't go wrong. You have a really good power rack that's able to hold your weights, J-cups. It has your safety bars, everything there. It's got band.

Band attachments. It's got the pull-up bar at the top. The west side spacing on the panel. West side spacing when you get down below a certain height. Which I love. My Titan Yokes have that. And yeah, it's great. It's just you can really find your spot when you're benching out of it.

And then their bench, their adjustable bench. I don't know a lot about the bench, I guess. I'm sure the racks are good. No, I've done some looking into the bench because this is the one i'm probably going to get and it's rated for it's pretty significantly rated um as far as weight um but this package together free shipping is 470 bucks meaning you're set that in a bar and some weights titan started rolling out steel plates now too at a price it's fucking bananas yeah but they're sold out immediately so um and there's there's a lot of different rack options they have plenty of other options maybe

there's a different one with their measurements of titan that that fits better than this specific t3 one right here but when we're talking about getting started in your garage i can i can personally vouch for the quality um of the stuff that they have is it i mean it's you're talking the same exact building materials as everything else that you see just a better price um there isn't even any welding to be done on these mostly so um frankly even if they fuck up you can take something to have it welded for little or no money considering that this rogue rack right here to mimic it is about a nine hundred dollars yeah i was gonna say a thousand yeah so this is a pretty robust piece of equipment bolt can bolt down to the floor

if you need it but um in general if you're you're someone looking at starting a home gym lift for power lifting or that type of lifting i I would definitely check Titan out. Yeah. Because if you're personally the only one using it, do you need a twice as expensive? No. And you can't support it because you don't have any income. There's not, it's not generating income. There's one thing to like,

to, you know, you know what I mean? Like buy a $5,000 elliptical because you have a gym that you're going to have hundreds of people using it on. But man, if it's your elliptical, maybe save yourself a little bit. um but yeah the titan stuff at least every experience i've had

with their stuff has been that it's it's pretty good i i don't have any complaints about the logs the yolks any of the little accessories i bought from them because of their pricing i bought something from titan literally every week um and been pretty happy so that kind of gets us through this list here. Was there anything we wanted to spin back on and throw out? Oh, fuck. Also, as far as shoes with the CrossFit side of the shoe stuff, Rogue Fitness, get a fucking gift card for Rogue Fitness for about $160 and you'll be fine.

And tell them it's for shoes. And that's probably a good bet unless you know what your lifter lifts, if they're a heel person for squatting or not. Unless they've told you, I really want the Reebok Legacy lifter. But as far as, like, CrossFit shoes, there's two camps. There's basically Reebok or Nike. If you're wearing anything else, you're just, like, one of them weird guys still wearing toe shoes or something.

But like other than that, and there's so many now different variations of the Metcons now. There's like three different versions. There's like the DSX Flyknit Metcon 3s and there's a regular Metcon 3s and then there's a runner version and then there's Reebok's got fucking like

five different versions of the same type of shoe and so you're just gonna need to let them make that decision and they probably already know what they want so either ask them and get them that but it's gonna be one of those two things rogue fitness sells both those brands so that's probably your best bet if you were just gonna be like get them a gift card for a place cover the shoe thing and if they spend it all on fucking you know posters of rich froning that's their fucking problem but i think that's got us about wrapped up for today um we also want to drive home our other product here the flex flask that we have here interesting um we've been talking about this for

the last few weeks but it's pretty much the shit we have that design we have the interesting um we've been talking about this for the last few weeks but it's pretty much the shit we have that design we have the huge life in the old miller high life style and then we also have just the massonomics og those are all available in both black and white and i don't know what to say other than that they're awesome so there's technically six different styles buy all six you need it and if you don't need all six someone in your family needs all six don't buy them just one you get them the white one they're gonna wish they had the black one yeah that's a whole can of worms you don't want to get into just get both just buy them one of each six we can handle the inventory you just get it you just put in your order we'll

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