Massenomics Podcast - Ep.89: Staying Jacked Over The Holidays

Episode Date: December 18, 2017

This week's episode is all about trying to mitigate the damage done over the holiday season. The guys share their personal strategies and problems when it comes to training, eating, sleeping, drinking, drinking, and drinking over the holidays. Check out the audio version below. Or dig this HD video version: If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2020.. Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong

Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. All right, everybody. Welcome to this week's episode of the Massanomics Podcast. I'm Tyler, and to my left is Tommy. What's up?

And across the way is Tanner. Hello everyone, how are you doing today? Oh, that's really good to hear. Oh, wow, sweet. A lot of good feedback there. So, this week we're just going to kind of throw around a little bit of our holiday struggles, if you will. So this is going to come out like one week before Christmas. Yep.

One week exactly to the day. To the day. I mean, unless I fuck up and forget to publish it again, and then it'll be the day after. One day later. Six days. One day later, six days. But so this time of year is where usually you get overfed, lazy. A lot of people end up traveling.

We really probably don't go very far. Not really. I'm probably the farthest traveler in the group here. Actually, this year, though, I will be going across the state. So there will be a little bit. I actually haven't even thought enough about that until we say this right now. You're like, fuck. Yeah, I actually spaced this out.

I've got to plan for that. Yeah, I'll be going across the state for like five days. But usually that means I'm probably going to have to just sneak in my end of the week workout up a day. And then beginning of the week workout the next week. We'll probably have to slide back a day. So is that usually how you would handle that? That's typically how I would because I almost never lift when I leave town. Like that just usually.

Have you ever tried that? With the exception of going home and doing that a couple times, I never have. I've even intentionally cut short time being home to just get back to lift because it's so much better to do it in the gym here. It's the premier strength destination in the upper Midwest. The premier of the northeast corner of South Dakota. In the James River Valley. It's the illest. Among the best. Sometimes I try to train while I'm gone.

Like over Thanksgiving, I did that. I was in the Black Hills. Yeah. And there's a gym that I like there that's in Rapid City, and I trained there one day. And it is a much harder training on the road than it is at home and like the comforts of your own yeah you're just out of your element like even like this place is a cool place and it's a place that i like but like every time you'll get there and be like oh fuck i forgot my wrist wraps and

yeah i really like those like and like it feels kind of funny you know and then you're like none of these people know i'm awesome yeah and it's just like it is much much harder for me training somewhere away from home and like as i'm lifting i'll be like they don't have this thing that i'm really used to being able to warm up with you know it's just it's it's hard for me i i struggle with it i try sometimes but more and more it's easier for me i'd rather just cram cram three lifting days in a row and then just take the time off, which isn't a bad thing anyways. Especially because traveling takes so much out of you. Right. You're dehydrated.

You're stiff. You're sore. And usually when we're traveling, I'm not the one setting the itinerary or deciding what we're doing. So it's like by me being like, oh, hey, everyone, we're on vacation. But actually, I have to do this while we're on vacation. You're kind of also being an inconvenience to everyone too. So yeah, there's a lot of factors there. I used to more so try to fit those lifts in.

Because you've even done this all the way in Florida before, right? Yeah, I used to do that more. But the last few times, I've done it less and less and probably enjoyed it better not going because when i do go it's usually not as good of a lift and as i just get more and more used to massonomics gym i'm just less likely to like somewhere else where i just go and it just there's less of that a little more because i remember there used to be this one point where like oh i'm gonna go to this place and try out this gym it's like oh tanner tell me about that gym like what was that like i need to i need to hear about these exotic destinations.

Well, especially when you guys are all training out at the YMCA. Right. It's like, oh, they had a Texas power bar. Oh, my. What is? They had benches with adjustable heights and arms. That's what it was like. It was exciting to go somewhere with these different things.

But now just about anywhere you go has less things. I didn't have to deadlift, but I saw a deadlift bar. Right, right. Whoa. That is what it was like. And it's just more of a vacation if I'm not also constrained to training. You just become so jaded to the finer things in life that everything pales in comparison.

Also, packing a gym bag kind of sucks too because it's not one of those things where you usually throw your stuff in with your other stuff because one it usually is dirty and has chalk over it like two it usually smells bad so if it's even in the same container apparatus as everything else your clothes are just ruined for that trip so now it's like you're packing a clothes bag. You're packing a gym bag. A lot of times for me it's packing a camera bag. And, like, I've packed three bags when even, like, my girlfriend only has one. And it just – I'm that guy all of a sudden, you know.

It's mostly wigs. Yeah. My wig bag, my makeup bag, yeah. It is nicer to have a separate bag, though, like a separate just lifting only bag. Yeah. Just a belt alone, like if you're taking a belt, that's the piece that's like, ah, shit. I need a knee belt, and because I'm a fucking diva, if I'm going to squat, I need my squatting shoes. And then I still want flats for doing literally everything else.

And probably knee sleeves if you're planning on squatting. literally everything else. And probably knee sleeves if you're planning on squatting. It's like, well, if I'm going to lift twice, I absolutely have to do some bench and arms because I'm not going to be in this place and not have a sweet pump.

You know what I mean? You're not going to be in a strange gym and not get fully pumped because you're fucking up. At least your alpha status goes right out the window if you're small. I've but so i've done it for i'll have a full fucking gym bag and the only way i can get the belt to work here's a little pro tip gym bag i use like a big backpack though because i don't like having a duffel well duffel is a little tricky if it's also your if it's your personal item when you're flying, because that's not what that's supposed to fit under the seat.

So what I do is I take the backpack, and then I take my belt, and I loop it through the top handle, like up and down, around there, and just cinch that fucker up real tight on the bag. And then I know the bag's as compact as possible. But I've done it one time where I go, and I go to stuff the bag into the overhead compartment and it's the gym bag and I give it a little push and a little bit of it compresses and some gym bag air and it's like, you know, six months of exercise shoes and knee sleeves and knee sleeves, especially, and you push on it just as, and it just like. Someone might as well fart in your face. Like the worst queef you've ever had.

It was so bad. Yeah, it was like, it was like somebody shit out of their armpit into the fucking airplane. It was so fucking gross. And so obviously I looked around like, what is that? And then sat down and acted like it wasn't me. But yeah, that's the tricky part so normally what i'll try to do is i'll if it's a squat day i'll do everything i can to squat before i leave because then i can get by and go do like a bro session the gym with some minimal gear squatting

is the hardest or the most to pack for for sure. Yeah. And I just, but I'm the other way. Like, I actually kind of like, I like finding a spot to try to train in. It's usually fun. You kind of can meet some new people if you get out there enough. And as long as you're like sociable about it, you know, it's kind of a fun thing. Yeah. And I have met, you know, I have people that I still talk to that lift that I've met in the gyms in Florida and in Rapid City and places like that. It is good for that, too.

Yeah. Because usually it's like. It's good for mass analysis. It's like, well, so it's their gym. So those guys are like, who's that person here that came and they're like squatting or deadlifting and it looks like they kind of know what they're doing. Yeah. Because that's not like. Yeah, that's not normal.

No, like if you're in your normal gym and someone comes in that's like that you're kind of like oh who's that guy yeah what's going on yeah we need to get to the bottom how tempting is it though to go and make sure that you hit about 90 for a single just to make sure that they know it just magically happened on this day like it wasn't supposed to but it just ended up that's just the way my programming was i just want to make sure you guys knew that i could do this yeah this only happens a couple times a year so you guys got really lucky here first day in a new gym just always make sure you put as many plates on the bar as you can possibly lift yeah so let them know that's right that's the real pro tip yeah i uh but no i i do try to make a point to train when i go on the road just one that means usually that the night before that is for sure means i'm not going to get out of

control wasted that's that's a good that's a good self-regulation yeah it's like hey i already made the plan you know i'm i'm gonna do it it. It was like when I was in Vegas. It was like we were like at the pool, but I had already made an appointment with Brandon Allen to let me into his gym. So I was like, well, I get a few drinks in me here. That appointment may get canceled, and he does not seem like the kind of guy you stand up. Yeah.

So, you know that removed one full afternoon of day drinking which is probably something wasn't a bad thing at least and saved you two weeks of income easily two weeks of income well as a crossfit business owner it's more like six weeks of income one afternoon of day drinking but uh yeah so that's kind of i don't know i'm not too leery but we get some people that drop in too from from on the road down here at massonomics yeah a ton yeah there's but it's usually the right yeah we've had a lot of usually when someone's dropping in actually almost every time i'd say that someone's dropped in they've been always been pretty cool and pretty uh uh something interesting about their lifting.

Or they're really strong. There's always been something that they've been pretty interesting to talk to. You're usually pretty stoked to find a real place. Right. Usually it's always the same thing. I always ask them how they find it. And he's like, well, I was just Googling and pictures of this came up. And I was like, oh, well, that's definitely where I'm going.

It's always people that are like, oh. We're done. Yeah, yeah. We're done looking. And there's a surprising number of people that when they drop in have either just got done with a competition or mid-prep for a competition, and that's like powerlifting, strongman. Kind of across the board we've seen several different things. So it's cool to know that like we're not the only people out here

right you know i'm sure there's a lot of people that google it and they come across pictures of it and they're like no bueno what is that disgusting place you know like i bet that happens far more but the people that do like it you know it's it's a good filter right yeah you know i think when i got uh well i mean i knew knew of like Brandon's gym when I was in Vegas, but I was kind of looking around for some sort of what else there was, you know. And so I put a post on Starting Strongman just because I was like, I can't find anything here. And someone had directed me to the same, to Filthy Power Gym. And their reasoning was, which is is it is kind of how you

filter it when you're you're just going to look up strength gyms you're going to rule out everything that's for the most part full of treadmills yeah and so you just check those off check those off and then finally he was like they were like i don't know what the place is but i saw a safety squat bar in the corner in one of the pictures so it's probably at least it's kind of a legit place yeah right that's all it was like they found one tool that was like that probably there's probably something you know and that's kind of the best you can do yeah there's a monolith there so you're probably okay yeah um it's not going to be a very fluffy place right yeah good yeah if a place has a monolith or has something like that that's usually in itself enough to know that it's probably going to be a place

that you could get something done at. Yeah, or at least it's a place where people are getting measurably strong. Yeah. But this isn't probably the most breaking, exciting news out there, but in the world of Mastodonomics Gym, it's pretty... Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's pretty... Did something happen?

Yeah, it's pretty big news. We moved a few pieces of equipment around yeah i don't know if you guys have seen that yet or not but some things sit in different places that they haven't sat in before might have to just go sit in the gym for a few hours to let it all sink in there today things were flying everywhere i i wanted to be a fly in the wall to just uh when everyone walks in for the first time to watch their reaction, like when they see something's in a different spot and be like, ooh. Because we have, and I'm sure our gym isn't the exception with this,

we have some real creatures of habit down there. Yes. That's definitely got to get some people kind of thrown for a loop. Yes, yes. But we managed to, in the long run, what we took. And how did this start, though? Because we're going on a year and a half of basically not touching anything. Just things being added, pretty much. But it started with wanting to get the new belt squat machine inside the main gym.

So we tried out a number of different things. Actually, we started out with because we did just have it the belt squat was just sitting basically in the entryway of the gym which is a much less serious it is much less serious like it's hard to get as serious in that area yeah and the belt squat machine is albeit not the most serious exercise not as serious as say your squat bench or deadlift but it's probably in the next tier of seriousness. It is. And also an update on the belt squat.

I think it was just last week we were talking about how the Spud Inc. belt was nowhere to be found, and what was it, a day, two days later it showed up? One other update on that is my bars still haven't been shipped. So if you listened to, I think, last week when I talked about the bars not being coming, still not on the way. to, I think, last week when I talked about the bars not getting coming. Here we are. Still no bars. Still not on the way. But they still have a long ways to go before they hit the record for the longest Masonomics has waited for a bar in the mail.

That's true. What is our record for the longest we waited on a bar from the moment we paid for it to the moment we showed up? Oh, that was probably like... It was a little over six months, wasn't it? I was going to say more than six months on two bars. Did you get any sort of concessions out of um transaction like we got a couple free like this might be on collar you know like not basically no yeah no

no a 9.99 value right exactly but yeah so the nine cents it costs so these bars still probably have about five and a half months before they're yeah beating your records but so the it was me and shane and some other guys were were talking about different choices of where things could go in the gym and we weren't planning unnecessarily on moving anything we were just talking about it had you guys been watching a lot of like property brothers or anything and just decided you were really into some renovation. Yeah, those like HGTV. You were feeling inspired. Yeah, and the talking, like 30 minutes of talking

led to getting out a measuring tape and like, well, let's actually measure and see if this would work and that would work. And we did that for 10 or 15 minutes. And then by that time, I was like, well, yeah, it's like, have you been writing down those numbers that I've been saying? Everyone's like, no, I don't know how to read it. Yeah, it's like, have you been writing down those numbers that I've been saying? Everyone's like, no, I don't know. But we just started moving things around and got to where it's at now. But the biggest thing is the only thing we had to move out of the gym

was a sit-up ab board thing that we have. And the thing that got moved in was the belt squat machine so all in all a fair trade yes a net gain you know there's some different things that have to be in different places now but the the key point is there that we lost a sit-up thing you moved the biggest nastiest shit too so you move the belt squat in all the plate things hamstring or the the leg extension and hamstring curl yep and then you also moved the lat pull down all the way i was really surprised when i heard the lat pull down got moved the the good thing is i would have been like this is just not moving yeah did you guys pick them up and no that's the beauty of just

having a concrete floor just as long as we move mats and stuff out of the way, you can just slide them. It wasn't terrible. No, it wasn't that bad. It's more of just getting them moving. And as soon as they're sliding, it takes very little actually to keep them sliding. But if it was on carpet or all rubber mat, that would have been a much, much... Actually, the most difficult thing, which I was shocked that we figured this this out is Shane and I had to get the belt squat machine through the door.

Did you have to take it apart to do that? We didn't. Really? Which it was like the hardest. Jeez, what's that? Fucking dog. It's appalling. What's wrong with your dog?

Fletch has some sort of hip issues, so he's not very good at laying down. For a dog that lays down all the time, he's not that good at it. Those things were moving. Things aren't going well for him in that department. Whatever. But you know those little

toys that you play with that someone might have sitting on their coffee table that you have to get the things taken apart or put them together?'s what it was like only it's with this uh spare steel 500 pound thing with moving parts that you're like please don't smash my fingers yeah you know both of us when we got it through we're like oh my god i can't believe we did that you know just like shocked and proud like i don't think if we had to get it back out we would be able to figure out exactly what we did to get it in here in the first place yeah but we got that in and now that piece of equipment's a lot more appealing where

where it's sitting it's pretty dope you're more likely to want to use it like it will get used more just because of where it's at versus yeah when you walked in, you're like, I'm not going to go out here. This is where people walk on the treadmill. It's colder. By walking on the treadmill, we mean this is where nobody uses the treadmill. This is where people just take their shoes off. Yeah. I don't want someone taking their shoes off.

The music isn't right there either. It's almost five feet on the other side of the wall. Yeah. Not the same vibe. Not an ideal place. Nobody can see you do it, so it doesn't actually count. It doesn't count. Yeah. Yeah.

But now we have to do abs out there, so that's kind of a... Or you just don't do abs. Yeah. I mean, we do have the ab wheel and other options, too, though. That's true. So there's... Just a deadlift for abs. But the really hardcore ab board guys are going to be pretty disappointed in the change, I suppose.

If the ab board was like the staple of your workout routine. Did anyone ever, I had never seen this, had anyone ever been using that for like a decline bench or anything like that? Yeah. I've seen it a couple of times. Is it? I didn't know if that thing was like robust enough to trust it. Yeah, I've seen people do that. I guess it could be brought in to use that

if you must if you want i've seen larry do that before actually really and what people use it for also is not the ladder part of it but just the bench is to lay it horizontal and do i don't know is it seal row i think it might be called like a chest supported laying down barbell row so you get used for that every once in a while too um yeah so speaking of moving shit funny story i got a call this or a message from somebody this week i was like hey give me a call right away so i call and it's like hey i'm just i have a bunch of shit that needs to be moved and i'm just wondering if you know like you and tanner and tommy and then he was

like derrick or like some of your members at the crossfit gym would want to help would would help us did you say say no more we're on it be like well yes i was just talking to those guys and they're like do you know anyone that would like would like me to carry something you're like if you ever do call me right away and so i i mean i wasn't trying to be a dick but i certainly didn't want to do it yeah absolutely and also like listen because you see videos of me lifting weights on the internet that does not mean that that's what i do and then i don't have anything else to do like like i might be the busiest person that I know at the moment right now. So there's fucking no fucking way I want to do it. But I was stuck in that literally in the time spot that they gave me,

I did not have anything to do. Except for that's normally when I go home and nap. Because I wake up, I leave the house at 4 o'clock in the fucking morning. Well, you have an appointment that day, I guess. That's kind of what I was thinking. And then I was just like, ugh. But then if I nap a little early and then I'm down at the gym, we had to haul a stage out of the bar right next door to my CrossFit gym

and then up into the fucking Ward Hotel ballroom. And so anyway, I was like, well, yeah, I don't have it. So fine. I was like, I'll help, but here's the deal. I am literally not going to ask anybody else. That's what I was gonna say i took one for the team yes yes that's exactly what i say in that same i've had that same exact thing happen probably at least a handful of times and that's always my answer i'm like if i can help i'm like of course just like that's like no you don't want to but you'll be like okay i will but i'm not asking anyone else i'm not

speaking for anyone and i'm not even going to offer because they don't want to do you'll be like okay i will but i'm not asking anyone else i'm not speaking for anyone and i'm not even going to offer because they don't want to do it i promise and i i only have like so many you only have so many uh times you can play a card of getting your friends to help you do shitty stuff it better be for me right that's when you're going to use it if you're gonna if i'm gonna about to call you and be like oh ty, I'm seriously in a pinch. I really need help moving this. It's not going to be for my friend that you don't know. It's when I'm like, I remember I called Tanner under an emergency because it was just a few blocks from his house.

And so if I ever call, it's an emergency because I will text. And then, of course, I texted right away. I was like, hey, give me a call right away. Yeah. And it was because I had a leg press machine I needed to load into the back of my pickup. However, a man can get a leg press machine in his pickup by himself. You just have to want it back. Now you know.

Now I know. But anyway, so we get the four big, huge pieces of stage hauled out of this bar. I was like, oh, that wasn't so bad. And they're like, no, no, no. There's two more in the basement. Ooh. Oh, a whole other flight of stairs then, too. Yeah, well, and the turn and like a 120-year-old building.

Yeah. So we got them out. And then we're like, well, is this going to fit in the fucking freight elevator? And it fit. Each piece of stage fit with a quarter not even a quarter inch to spare like the floor we would actually have to like stomp down on the floor in the freight elevator did anyone wedge it upright did anyone know ahead of time whether that would fit or not nope we did not go until we drugged and otherwise we would have had to carry it up the

entire stairway yeah would that have been doable or yes not awesome but i mean it would have been totally but actually i think going down they'll probably take it down the stairs because they can kind of lay them on her side and slide them but going up it would have been a fucking nightmare but anyway i really uh so you guys basically owe me thank you for not yeah thanks thank you for not calling Yeah. Thanks. Thank you for not calling. Although it coincidentally that day I was really looking for something. Yeah. Like it happens once in a while. I mean, cause then the beauty of it, just like all those people tell you, you don't

even have to lift that day. Yeah. Right. They're like, you can, you come help. You won't even have to go to the gym today. What was funny. So what I actually had to do was go to the gym two hours earlier and then bench and then try to haul this stage while my tits are cramping you know what i mean

i was like that is not on my and anyway it was actually uh for it was all fine it wasn't an awful pain in the ass it went fast but and the concert was good we went last night and uh got totally crazy didn't get too crazy. Megan had to work in the morning, but I got mildly crazy. There's a lot of hippies. There's a lot of very, very crunchy grooves, that type. But no, it was so, but it's kind of like when we talked about like moving, you know, like calling in those favors. I think maybe I talked about before, but I will just like when we moved here i paid a moving company yep to this

house i paid a moving company solely so that none of my friends could ever ask me to help you can't live with that on your conscience i spent i spent a lot of money so that you didn't have to help me move and so next time you want to ask for a favor the answer is no like you can hire a moving company too but what if if it enabled you to not have to go to the gym that day well i could tell you i would much rather go to the gym i'd rather go to the gym than even have an appointment to do anything let alone let alone move anything but, that stuff is, I don't know. It's like just because you're a big guy. But I have a job, dude.

Yes. Well, that was kind of where I was at, too. You're talking on a Friday afternoon. Ain't nobody taking time off work to do this. I don't mind when my friends ask me. I mean, don't really want to. Because now you have one on them because you know they want you. Right, and it, like, I mean, not like, don't really want to. Because now you have one on them because you know they love you. Right. And it's like, oh, I guess I'll be, you are my, like, it's at least like you are my friend.

Yeah. Like we do, we do things together. Like I enjoy talking to you. Okay. I hope you, but sometimes people ask you that you don't even just, but barely know. And they think because you lift. At best your acquaintances. Yes.

And they think because you lift that you want to help them do that. It's like, hey, you want to help me move the pool table? Yeah. And if you break it, I'll be fucking pissed. It's like, well, fuck you. Or you want to help me move my big TV? No. Pay someone.

There's like risk involved in that. I'm not going to be the guy that then broke your TV because you paid me with a slice of pizza. That is the standard form of payment is a a few beers and uh i'll get you a beer sometime that's what i've uh started accepting as for gym membership fees at mass economics gym i don't need i don't need membership fees every month i just want everyone to just get me a beer sometime because it's so reliable and like it's not surprising or exciting and it's way better like you don't want cash in your pocket you want that's too liquid that way you want to be able to get a beer sometime can a man just get a beer by surprise sometime the power company takes it takes beers yeah they love that it's like you you you let them know when you get the bill in the mail,

you respond with it just like, I'll get you a beer sometime. We'll be good spotches sometime. You owe me $300. You're going to have to get me like a lot of beers sometimes. And also not any beer because we want money. Our shareholders do not take beer here sometime but uh yeah i don't know the uh but kind of the holiday stuff was kind of recapped was that what we were talking about all right i think it was doing people favors

christmas season of giving or whatever the season of telling people to fuck off when they ask you to get festive um but uh you know the holiday stuff is you guys ever have anything as far as with you know you know tommy you don't have to go very far but like you got two days with family or something like that and then you eat like shit or you're fucking you know how do you do you do anything with your training as far as over the holidays the the biggest thing for me honestly is just watching alcohol intake strategic alcohol intake over the holidays i watch it i watch it with my fucking eyes but i that is one of the things you know it's like yeah eating a lot is awesome and it's like that's one of the lowest priorities a lot of times you know when you're leaving town and all that stuff like eating we were just talking about last week like eating

can be a big issue yeah like luckily around holiday time like that's like foods aplenty like that's pretty low on the concern list but we actually have kind of the opposite strategy of a lot you know i mean there's a lot of people who are like – Trying not to overeat. Trying not to. Yeah. On the holidays. And we're like – be like, well, this is a tremendous opportunity. Yeah, right.

Yeah. I'm going to come out this winter 20 pounds beefy. But, yeah, the bigger concern is it seems like the people I'm around – and I think we all fall – pretty much everyone really does fall into this situation at some point is, you know, people have time off from work. They're away away from home they can really just relax and celebrate yeah which is great but if you are trying to lift around that you have to kind of be conscious because you can't like just be drinking all day and all afternoon and all night and then think you're going to show up to the gym and have anything worth doing you know well i just on the

topic of that if there is no way i'm going to show up to the gym and do any amount of lifting after a like a night like a real a night of really doing it there's no way yeah and even sleep too like sleep gets thrown off because you're with family and people want to watch a movie and then play a card game and like one more card game and another card game and it's like we've been playing cards for four hours now. Listen, listen, Carol. It's the same fucking game seven times. You're fucking cheating.

I've seen it. I can't call you out for it because you're going to fucking get mad about that time I got a DUI when I was 20. So I just got to fucking take it. But it's way past my bedtime. That was a real story, wasn't it? It was a real story.

Fuck you, Carol. Long-time listener of the podcast. All Carol, big fan. But how bad, too, is like, you know, if you guys, my thing is like, even if I drink anywhere past a moderately respectable amount, I'm in that, you're in the moderation range or or less it doesn't seem to throw me off too bad um you know that that three to six drink range somewhere like that but if i get over make a real night out of it and by the way these doses are not maybe i would not these don't transfer to regular people. We're talking like over 15 drinks, 25 drinks in a night.

My sleep is shit, though. Even if I go to bed at 11 and get up at 8. Oh, it's not good. That is not good sleep. It's so fucking bad. And it takes two days to get out of it. You're fucking dehydrated. So even last night, I maybe had five drinks last night.

And then was in bed at a decent time. But my sleep wasn't awesome. And then I went to the gym and my body still kind of hurt a little bit. Because you're a little dry. And joints are stiff. Back is stiff. And yeah, it's like one night a fucking little bit of drinking seems to pull me out for like two or three days where i'm just way underperformed that's what i've noticed too it's not even just the next day it's usually two days after that where i still don't feel very good

from it and by once you get about three days past it you start feeling like yourself again then you're like i should not do yeah that was not worth it and then two more days go by you're like it's kind of been a while since I've had that feeling. My thing is always like, for me, it's Friday night. My kid's pretty self-sufficient, and so we'll get done coaching class. It's a long day. It's been a long week. I don't have to get up early Saturday to just go next door

because there's a bar right next to where I work. There's two. Within a block, really. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's two. Yeah. Within a block, really. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's one out your back door. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, and I've actually done both of them on Fridays. But just go and have a few.

There's two bars within 50 paces or less. Which is great because I can just be like, oh, sweet. Well, a couple people paid in cash. Here we go. But I'll go next door and have just a few drinks, you know, and then head home. But, like, that little bit is still just like, ugh. Then if I've got to train, I usually try to get a good training session on Saturday because it's one of the few days that I don't have fully scheduled.

And some of them Saturday sessions are no good. What other businesses are right on your, like, right next to what kinds of types of businesses? We have a Chinese buffet. Yes, that's right. Because I went to the Capitol Theater this weekend, and we walked by, and there was something. That's what I was hoping you'd remind me. That's what it was.

I was going to ask if you ever eat there. I do, but not during work. I would love to. The schedule just never, the timing never works out great. So, like, I can't coach. The way I eat a Chinese buffet, I could not be on my feet for another three hours and coach. There's no way. Like, when I leave one of those places, I cannot get home fast enough.

I'm like, we need to get home. I need to lay down and get the pants off. I need to leave my fucking chair. We're doing this. And I get, the whole thing is just, but I actually really enjoy it, and especially like post-workout. Yeah, it's a little fucking, some crazy high, but I can get a shit ton of carbs, a shit ton of protein,

and yeah, there's some fried shit and some sugar, but whatever. That's the time. I'm going to capitalize. And so I could go train at like one o'clock to lift and then go in and just crush that thing but then i'd have to be on my feet and instructing people with the full bloat yeah like because i'll eat like you ever see those national geographic videos of like a lion when they they like take down a wildebeest and they eat for the first time in four days and i're not going to eat for another four days.

So they're just fucking huge. And that's what my post-Chinese food belly looks like. Not a good example to be slinging fitness with that look. Or I'd be coaching posted up on the couch. Can you ever smell the Chinese buffet from walk out and get a whiff of that that and the other bar because it's all fried food yeah and and burgers and shit so it's actually really good coming out there exhaust right into the alley behind our place so someone will walk in to my spot and i just smell it i'm like oh is it is it a good smell mid conditioning to pick up on

doesn't matter listen i don't do very much conditioning relative to what my clients do um it's not good for them it's okay for you yeah listen they they don't enjoy it but i really do enjoy it it's actually in the summertime we'll go out there and you know push sleds and shit too which is some puke making stuff stuff a little bit. And then you're back there pushing a sled next to the fried food factory with a Chinese place and then a sports bar on the other side. And they're dumpsters. And then another bar dumpster right behind us. A Chinese buffet dumpster.

A Chinese buffet dumpster. That might be one of the – And then two bar dumpsters. Yeah. Yeah, we're making tough organisms. Yeah. Do you like that chinese buffet in particular versus other chinese buffets it's growing on me compared to the one or the other one across town

i always like see i always liked the one on me i've always liked that one better the one that's next to you it is of higher quality yeah i think a lot of people say otherwise but i've had some real hit and miss at the one. Yeah, and that's why I just like, I feel like I'm kind of taking a chance sometimes. It's been a little while now, so it's probably better. I haven't been. We used to eat there in college a lot. Oh, because it was like $5 for a buffet?

I hadn't been there for a long time, and I walked by it just this weekend, and I was nostalgic of it where I was like, I kind of like to go in there and just feel sick to my stomach. Yeah, I feel like hating myself for the rest of the day. Yeah. I'm going to see what this little fucker's up to. He usually doesn't sit there. Yeah, he really wants to. Is there no one else home?

Because he's kind of in our business right now. There's not anybody else home, actually. I think that's why. Was there still like 40 bikes? Yeah, it looks like a bike gang was here. Yeah, I don't know if you were stealing bikes in your spare time now. So my kid apparently has neighborhood friends now that I took his Xbox away. And then all of a sudden, he can play outside in my friends.

Fucking crazy. The other kids were like, we didn't know that you had a kid. Yeah, he gets grounded from Xbox. And all of a sudden, there's like seven kids running around outside. I was like, well, why can't this happen when the Xbox is not locked in my gun safe? You secretively have the Xbox plugged in in your TV upstairs, don't you? No, I don't. I just got Call of Duty World War II, and I have not even gotten to play it.

And Lincoln plays it all the time, to the point where, let's backtrack a little bit. You want to hear a little parenting story? So Lincoln's not very good about doing things when the Xbox is an option. So if it's like, hey, you need to do your hair brush your teeth um get dressed and uh make your bed that's it you know and eat and i'll come and then you can play the xbox and i'll come and he will have done half of those things very poorly ignored the other half and just have been playing xbox for four hours the other day we go and we go to leave and it's like hey we're gonna leave we need to take the

dog out to go to the bathroom as soon as we leave i don't like we don't like take him out when we go because he thinks he's going for a road trip yeah so like take the dog out and then uh and then you can go back to doing your shit come back and there's a big old puddle of piss and a Great Dane sized fucking big old turd. The size of three of these microphones put together in my fucking formal sitting room. The room that's supposed to be so pretty that you only look at and just piss and shit right in there. And we were only gone for like an hour. Which means, young man, you did not take the dog out. And you just sat there and played the fucking Xbox the whole time.

You were told one thing and you didn't do it. So that's why the Xbox is in my gun safe now. Being a kid is tough. Yeah, I guess. Just dealing death via Xboxbox live all day it's exhausting you know i never told you guys this but i am currently a two-sport athlete right now oh what's the other one i am a participant in a bowling league at the moment oh so i'm really pushing my physical capabilities to the limit how's your wrist and uh my wrist is up just fine. My thumb is still there.

But I'm not a good bowler. How is this going to affect your hook grip at all? I feel like this is tough in your thumbs. Really, the biggest issue actually is that bowling is on Thursdays. And bowling, from what I can tell, is 50% bowling and 50% drinking. So, yeah, I could see how it could have an impact on squats. Yeah, on your squat. On your Friday squat.

Fortunately, you're self-employed, so you don't really have any work to do ever. Yeah, I don't know if you've ever seen the episode of The Office where Michael Scott gets self-employed, but I usually sleep till noon and then make anywhere between 50 and 100 pancakes. Once I'm done with that, then I think about doing work, but I only think about it. But that worked out for him. He ended up selling his company.

Yeah, so that's what I'm going on three months of doing that now and I'm just hoping at some point someone buys my company from me and I'll make a lot of money. What was that bit on South Park where it's like, start up, bro down, sell out, and cash out. That's what you've got to do. You've just got to start a company like Massanomics, just bro down,

and then we're going to sell out to, I don't know who's going to buy us. Gold's GM. Probably T Nation. T Nation, yeah. T Nation's been knocking on the door, throwing offers our way. JTS, they're all, there's a lot of big ones that play. A lot of big ones that keep coming our way. And we're like, listen, guys, we got something pretty special to offer.

We're just going to keep holding out. Facebook's going to come pretty soon. Probably. Yeah. They want the whole platform. For our superior content generating skills. They've been noticing. What you've done with Instagram is incredible.

They keep telling us that our last post performed better than 98% of our other posts. You said that about every post, even ones that don't get any likes. Shut up. You're not credible. Right? I'm like, which ones are the 2%? Everyone else must be really bad at this. But they're saying it in relation to our own posts.

I was like, what do you mean? Your math does not add up. I wasn't sure if you guys ever noticed that too, but I just always thought like, Facebook is telling us this post performed better than the last one, which performed better than the last one, which performed better than the last one, but by the numbers haven't actually done better than any of them.

No. I go through and look and it's like, well, that actually performed less well than the last one yeah i have noticed that they're just trying to hustle us yeah i feel like they're they're probably do you think they're just doing that to us though oh totally yeah yeah no one else gets that trying to fucking leverage us to the buyout yeah yeah pimping ain't easy, I guess. But that, go ahead. Oh, no, I have something completely unrelated,

just another thing to say. Well, we've got to finish talking about Facebook, and then we'll get to your point there, Tanner. Yeah, it was getting, we were getting pretty serious. No, I actually noticed, you know, with my other gym, their business page, too, is that they try, they fucking will just bury your content until you pay so what they do is they'll give you some very optimal results and put you in front of

a lot of people in the beginning for very little money and it doesn't have frankly it doesn't have anything to do with the content to give you a taste of that sweet sweet influence that you can i just put ten dollars on this thing yeah and i got fucking four thousand views i am on to a career of i was like writing i did it i just did it i'm a i'm an ad copy wizard yeah i'm just a savant i don't have any people love it i didn't have any professional any educational background um i just i'm just crushing it and then you do one that is not public paid and then they like purposely throttle it back because there's no fucking way especially with the way they do video views yeah that you'll put a video out and for five hours it will have 38 views and i'm just like oh you're burying it yeah to fucking put the screws to me to pay and uh yeah

fuck you zuckerberg they want that coin i think that's the same problem with our youtube videos after the massive success of our arnold videos they decided that our podcasts shouldn't be shown to a lot of people and they're intentionally burying us in the algorithm that's what it is buried in the algorithm they're afraid we're gonna take over youtube i think yeah honestly i think i think mark bell's in cahoots with youtube trying to hold us down yeah because we're coming for the title yeah they are threatened i mean i don't blame them too but yeah it'll be it'll be we'll absorb it into our fucking content we'll overcome we'll just we won't go away. Like we're trying to make us do like,

we're not going to go hanging around. We're not going to go away. Like all the signs tell us that we should, we're too stupid for that. Um, I did have something unrelated to that. If something else unrelated that we were talking about from our first three topics or so, but you mentioned hook grip i've been doing that uh yeah about once

a week for a little bit of work and uh yeah it still sucks and it hurts i've noticed that it also hasn't gotten magically easier overnight no no what i i found so far of what I've tried, I can, as much as I've done, I can hook grip anything for one. Do you feel intense pain with the one? Not intense pain with the one, but any more than one. And it's? Intense pain. Yeah. So, like, I don't know how people are doing sets with it is what I haven't been able to figure out is like how that's possible. And when you see the guys like Kayla Willem and like the volume that they're

handling with their hook grip, I don't know what their thumbs are made of, but I'd imagine it's the same things that Wolverine makes his claws out of. Yes. Cause that hurts. Like it does not feel good. Yeah. And it'll actually make my thumb go numb for like much longer than just while you're holding onto the bar. bar yeah like for a long period

of time well that's how you stop feeling pain you just know it'll get completely numb it's like oh it doesn't hurt like my thumb's yeah black and your thumb wasn't meant to have feeling in it anyways so you're just being whiny now that's true about the tip you mentioned uh to me that one day that you had seen someone else talk about. Keeping it a little lower. Yeah, and I feel like. That didn't make a difference. Hook ripping instead of hook ripping very.

Yeah. But leaving it a little looser. Which is the hard part of that is mentally like thinking when I grab it that that's going to hold on to the bar. Yeah. But I've noticed it feels better doing that than really. Yeah. Yeah. It feels better doing that than really playing. Yeah, because the video you're referencing that I saw at least was the Kabuki Strength. Their YouTube channel had one, and it was like a four-minute video or so on hook grip.

Actually, this has probably changed. I remember a few years back trying to do some research on hook grip, and it was almost non-existent. There was almost nothing-existent like there was almost nothing published on it it's becoming pretty popular now and with the fact that a lot of the big polls you see being done hook grip i'm sure if you went and looked there'd be way more stuff published on it than there was a few years ago but the yeah the tip they had is a lot of people think that oh i really need to just bury and get my thumb in there as deep as i can and what they said really is like you can the bar can sit way almost in your fingers and you don't need that

much of your thumb for the hook grip to be effective right and plus that puts you at a bit of a leverage advantage as well yeah yeah when your hands are my size having a very deep set hook grip versus a back down at the tips could It could be a couple inches almost. That's a full inch for sure of my hands, which I have a hard time being stable in the bottom, having a flat back. You know what I mean? To be able to not have to bend over that far.

Yeah, that bottom position is not. I mean, I've got to squat like a motherfucker just to be down there, and so my shit's all wrecked. So having that little bit of extra space kind of buys me but then it makes it weird when i go into to straps because when i do use straps i like i set them real deep so then everything all goes to shit but well so that's hook gripping and so does your bowling thumb you think that is advantageous that is not even been a thing in my life yet.

You're not going to build up calluses? Do you have one of those wrist guards? I don't have anything. I use a house ball and house shoes, so that shows how committed I am to the process. What is the most unilaterally, now I don't want to accuse anybody on your bowling team, but what is the most blatantly white trash sport that

you can have a league in that people do we're going bowling we're going darts i wanted to say it has to be a sport that involves being at a bar yeah usually but i don't know backyard wrestling is pretty crazy too well but there's not a lot of like weekend warriors getting done at the office and going and throwing on throwing on lucha masks

I'd maybe say darts just because I don't understand darts well enough at all I'm so ignorant to darts I don't know we're just going to be ignorant about this and I'm okay with it. I totally don't care if I sound like an asshole.

But I'm going to say that darts, while being an elite-level dart thrower, probably requires so much precision. I feel like being an average dart thrower is super fucking easy. There's a lot less variables, I than even bowling right being really good at bowling because bowling there's oil patterns a fair amount of there is some strength involved your whole body's happening darts you're just staying tight and it's a flick of the wrist man that i guess yeah totally in comparison between the two i I think bowling would be much more technically difficult and a lot more variables, and you have to move a lot.

And we don't know anything about either of those sports. Yeah, we don't know anything. The way people that do bowling well and kick their feet and get into positions and stuff like that probably takes quite a bit of practice to get good at that skill. Yeah. But darts literally does just like you said it is this like yeah did you ever see though that guy who's a real guy um he kind of reminded me of uh um bill murray on the bowling on kingpin where he's like crazy yelling like but

this guy like threw a strike and won something and he just starts going off and screaming and he turns to the crowd and he's pointing to the other guy and he's yelling and he's like who do you think you are i am just fucking like yelling and throwing a whole fucking scene at a bowling tournament like doing like basically like popping his collar you know and i think i think all sports need need people need more more showboating them i mean it was fun guy do you guys have a do you have bowling no no no it's pretty just show up and do your thing yeah is there anyone there that has like the shirt i have seen a couple people with some team shirts yeah yeah i like it yeah do you do obviously every time you throw a strike you do the the the degeneration x oh yeah i make sure to be as cocky as i can to everyone and as disrespectful to their

sport as i can you know i have to assert my dominance in every situation what do you what you have to do is just poop-poo its significance completely. And be like, this is easy. How do you feel about the shoes? Well, we were just talking about this. The shoes are a bit of an issue. It's pretty amazing how they can make a shoe that's so not breathable. I feel like that actually takes some effort

to get those materials that let your feet not breathe. They try so much to just not even put a hole in them. It's like, well, a garbage bag, you can't put a sole on a garbage bag, so we'll use this leather material that we use and put a sole on that and call it good. It's like they caulk the seams. No air. Fucking no air gets out. Yeah, so the shoes are good.

no air no air gets out yeah so the shoes are good have you gotten any better over time no actually my best has been my first day so my biggest thing is when anyone asks me why I did something or what I'm doing

my answer is I am not in control of my actions I don't know why I'm doing that either it's like oh you gotta swing listen I didn't know what I did the first time there's no way I don't know why I'm doing that either. It's like, oh, you've got to swing the... Listen, I didn't know what I did the first time. There's no way I'm going to know what changes I need to make the second time. Are you going to... Do you think you'll be YouTubing any form?

Well, yeah. So I started a vlog. I just want to get 10 episodes deep so once it really catches on, people don't have to wait so long. From zero to hero. My bowling transformation. A bowling odyssey yeah yep that's where i'm at now yeah i think that could catch on i think it will there's not a lot of people taking the fitness bowling uh route on their youtube channels so i might have that

market covered yeah that's what you have to do is be original you got to be fresh and you got to be pumping out content so and what i think you should also do which is basically what we do at massonomics based upon no factual information or experience you need to start giving out bowling advice yeah like like every week you're gonna have tommy's hot tips and you're gonna put a nice little video about what you think you should do when you want to bowl to be better at bowling. Yeah. And just totally make it up.

Yeah, it'll be based around completely how fast you can get the ball down the lane. Here's the key. You want to start as far back away from the lane as possible. You want to run as fast as you can towards it because momentum is key here. You want to start with the ball overhead, and then

you're gonna fling it all the way under and if it takes two hands because two hands are stronger than one always so maybe use two hands and chuck it down the line do you use the pink balls ever no no i can't do the a lot of guys do the palming spin i don't got that now it's just that's bad when i try that they're just too good athletes. I'm not that coordinated, I guess. My question is, of all the weird sports that are in the Olympics, is bowling not an Olympic sport? You know, I don't think it is.

That is kind of weird that bowling wasn't an Olympic sport. I never even thought of that, actually. Like, ping pong is in the Olympics, but bowling isn't? It used to be on ESPN on Sunday morning. Yeah, it was on TV. Yeah, bowling seemed to get a lot of TV coverage. Is bowling an exclusively American thing? Kind of?

Mostly American? Maybe it is. That's a good question. We don't know anything about bowling. Yeah, we don't. I don't care either. We might know a little more about bowling than we know about darts, though. Yeah, darts.

For sure. Darts, I feel like, is British. Which is why we're just putting the default white trashes sport we can do as darts for now yeah and until shotgunning just coors lights becomes an olympic sport yeah or has its own league so or nascar becomes something just everyone can do everyone can do yes definitely all right well now that we shit on things lots of people like, we better get wrapped up here. Tanner does have a thing. And just to be clear, I do enjoy bowling and playing darts too.

The limited amount I get to do it, I usually have fun doing it. Bowling's fun. It's hard to – darts is hard to find, like, enough people that know even what they're doing to really play darts. Are we just going to the bullseye contest? That's all I know. Yeah, I still really play darts? Are we just going to the Bullseye contest? That's all I know. Yeah. I still routinely have to have people tell me what's worth what

because I can't remember that part of it. Yeah. I wouldn't even know what it's worth. In bowling, it takes care of it for you. Yeah. It tells you what you got. Oh, if bowling you had to keep your own score, the fun factor would just be out the window on that.

When I was in high school for PE class, we did a bowling cycle. Yeah, you had to learn how to keep score and everything. Yeah, we had to learn how to keep score. But I'm not so old that the lane didn't keep score for you. Yeah. It's like, well, this is a skill I don't need. Yeah. Like, tell me the rules, but don't make me write it all out.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't – yeah, it was a – so that's a skill that I used for one month. It's kind of like writing in cursive. I never did that. Our curriculum must have been different than your guys'. Our PE teacher was like –

Did you have a bowling alley in your town though? No. That's probably why. Yeah, that's why. We play a fact. You're like, my PE teacher is a piece of shit. No, he was like into – we had to do like – he was into box jumps and step ups and like he was into like actual fitness. Like making you train.

Yeah, like you had to, and I mean there's a lot of people that did not like that. Because you expect to take PE to like learn how to keep bowling score. It's like, no, you need to do 50 step ups in a minute or else you get a C or something like that. And it's like, well, well damn coming here to screw around not to yeah i thought we were playing yeah i thought we were playing kickball yeah uh but we got to get going here tanner's got a scoot he has a very very important date here really important meeting yeah, massonomics things. Investor meetings. The board is requesting things. Been breathing down our necks. Yeah, the board.

They want to see the reports. So, the reports are really important. We have to report. We got reports and numbers and things. So, excuse me. So, we're going to wind it down here. We do want to make sure that we run down some of the products you can buy.

We are nearly sold out of the Flex Flasks, but we still have a few left. So supply is getting limited. We'll have it restocked very soon. But if that's something you want to get in on, you best get in on it soon. But the Flex Flasks, we've got six different patterns. We have three different designs, two different colors for each one. I'm going to cough again, guys. Anyways, thanks for taking the wheel and not making that awkward.

No, we wanted everyone to sit and wait. Shh, no one talk. It's going to sound like Tyler's coughing again. I think my wife got me sick, and I'm fucking not happy about it. But that's going to about wrap us up for this week. So make sure you go to massanomics.com. Go to the store. You're going to find our Flex Flask, the shirt that I got on.

Oh, the shirt that I got on. He's got the same shirt on. You can't get Tanner's shirt, maybe at some point. There has been a lot of people that say they want this black and red. We could just, well, truthfully, next time we run the OGs, we could just make them red just for the hell of it. That's something to think about, something for us to sleep on. Big, important decisions.

You know what they say, anything is possible. We do have some singlets out there that you'll start seeing those now. It's not necessarily something we're selling in particular, but if you really wanted a Massanomic singlet like the ones you might see, let us know and we could probably get you one. Chris Wiest has one, is wearing it. And he deadlifts over 700 pounds. Jacked and homeless.

His is on the way to him. He's got himself one. Got a guy from the gym that bought one. So you might be seeing it around in posts every once in a while if you really wanted one of those we can hook you up i think yeah i think i think megan and i are each going to get one they're pretty sweet yeah the ones we we got some different things we can do but the ones we have now have the uh lift on one of the on one of the thighs the massonomics logo here and then their name across the back of it. Oh, I thought it was

a cartoon drawing of a dick on the back. That could be arranged too. Yeah, yeah. Depends on what federation you're in. It would be funny. Like really cartoon. Or really, really,

really, really, really anatomically accurate like out of a biology textbook. That guy is a very talented artist. Like, yeah, it's tasteful. I mean, it's really accurate. So anyway, so go to the store at massanomics.com. Also at massanomics.com,

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