Massenomics Podcast - Ep.91: The Strongest Moments of 2017

Episode Date: January 2, 2018

This week, the guys run down the strongest moments of this past year and speculate on what we may potentially see in 2018.

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What's up? Across the way, Tanner. Hi, everyone. Hi. Nice to see you. So this week we're going to go through we just published probably i would say the dankest recap article of 2017 most definitive of anything i'd be willing to say everyone else's sucks and ours is 10 times better than their we've been doing this since 2016 so we kind of we started this year recap shit. Way back last year.

Way back last year. And now all of a sudden there's a bunch of posers. Yeah, who think that they're going to come out with an article and talk about it on a podcast. And like review a year in a list. Like, no, we were first to that year. Get your own idea. We're a bunch of nerds. Just because they have people that listen to their podcast and we don't.

I think they're so cool. So this week, we do have on massanomics.com, we do have the strongest moments of 2017. We do this every year, and they're basically the best all the time. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to run through this a little bit. We have the 13 strongest accomplishments of 2017. We're going to start with Vlad, whomever his last name is. How do you say that?

Al? Al Hazav. I'm going to go with Al Hazav. Squats 500 kilos, which by my math is like 1,100 pounds. Yeah, just over just over 1100 pounds raw with wraps so that means no suit no suit just a snazzy old loose inter singlet the og and this guy what country was vlad from i'm not even. Point being on why this is so nuts, this is the first time anyone's ever squatted

this much raw, and most of us, as even at least casual powerlifting fans, didn't know, don't know who this guy is. Yeah. And there he does it. And supposedly this guy had like totally blown out a knee or something squatting.

Isn't that the backstory? He was like a multi-ply guy. guy yeah an excellent multi-ply lifter and blew out his knee several years ago i don't know if it's maybe five plus and uh he may have set world records in multi-ply even i think and then he came back almost out of the woodwork yeah to break the world record the first person ever to squat 500 kilograms. And for being an 1,100-pound squat, it's pretty deep. Like, you see people cut those way higher and get away with it. So that is the good thing to see there.

It's like no one's going to see that and be like, whoa, way high. I've seen a lot of people say that that are like props on his depth. Like, he's not cutting a corner on it. Like, he did it successfully and properly one of the things i've heard people talk about too was people that come from an equipped background like multi-ply background and they always say like you know the the haters will come out and be like well i mean go raw and let's see yeah and but usually they say what usually happens is those guys if they do switch to raw they're pretty much competing for world records in about a year or two.

Yeah. If they're legitimately really good. If they're legitimately good. Yeah, you're not going to be a middle-of-the-road fucking multi-ply guy and compete for world records. But if you're good... Well, they're still going against a whole pool of people that are really strong and trying their best.

So if they're the best out of those guys... And it kind of goes back to the whole thing of strong is strong yeah like it's just i would imagine they could compete show up to a lot of strongman competitions and just clean house you know yeah at least the ones we show up to squatting 1100 pounds next we have uh stephy cohen deadlifting 525 at 123 pounds body weight and uh she i think she had also did like 505 for reps she did 500 for five yeah so yeah and if if you guys don't know who she is definitely check her out on instagram she's she's jacked yeah super jacked and there's larry wheels in the background and i i also feel like there should be like an asterisk on this one

because if you have Larry Wheels behind you when you're deadlifting, I feel like you're just going to either hit more reps or do like 100 more pounds than what you're used to. Did you guys ever see that video of Larry Wheels, like pimples popping while he was deadlifting? Oh, when he starts bleeding? He starts bleeding out of his chest. Is that what it is?

Yeah. Okay. He was just like so – it was like eight something for a double and he is just like yeah that lifts it up and all of a sudden blood starts pouring out of his chest and it was like a couple pimples had popped i never knew what that was down and which is crazy to just have that happen because you're so so much pressure especially for a natural guy larry wheels the second most natty lifter uh this this deadlift like you know some people's criticism i've seen of her deadlifting she uses she's using straps on these heaviest ones but who the hell cares

literally every pr i've ever fucking put down his straps i don't give a shit and and in competition this year like just uh put that to rest or whatever she not not as much as this but she did successfully do either 485 or 495 for yeah i was gonna say it's right around 500 like she's like can't do it uh because you see guys do that though it gets so to, I think, a deadlift bar and their wider plates and straps, and then they go to a meet, and all of a sudden, like, their deadlifts are down 80 pounds. Like Pete Rubish would be the number one. He suffers from that bad, yeah, for whatever reason. It seems like he's changed that up a little bit more lately.

I think so. And I think part of it is probably the weight cut, too. You know, you probably not bring in 110% when when you're cutting 20 30 pounds over a couple days but yeah that because he had that deadlift 910 pounds 915 pounds then he goes to a meet and does like 830 yeah you know yeah if that if even you know yeah yeah so it's a pretty pretty huge change without a belt yeah asshole so she's pretty strong at 123. Imagine that, though, 123 pounds. Did you guys know who she was before this year?

No. I didn't either. The other thing I really like about her Instagram page is she seems to be really based in the science of things. She has a lot of really in-depth things, and I'm no no scientist so i can't speak to the validity of them as a scientist tommy i'd like to interject yeah i can certainly speak to the validity of everything that's on stephy cohen's instagram and it's valid it's scientifically true obviously without a reason but no that was uh four and a quarter body weight. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good ratio. That's crazy. 123 pounds is just so small. That is a very tiny person.

Like, she has to be like 5'1 or 2", right? Probably, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure, I suppose. We're going to guess. We're going to say 5'1 without literally any information in the back. 500 for a set of five. Like, how many guys do you know that power left a long time that yeah no it's like it's pretty crazy yes very it's and the other thing is like almost insulting

really like the absolute numbers aren't like shockingly high we're just talking about like 500 pounds or 500 pounds but it's a 123 pound woman yeah even 123 pound guy i'd be like yeah yeah good for you, man. That's awesome. The man-woman part doesn't even make a difference, really. I also do like, too, that she's also – she's not, like, scary huge, though. No, no. Yeah, like, if she's just walking down the street, you probably don't –

like, you're just like, oh, yeah, she probably does CrossFit or something. She probably exercises. Yeah, she works out, but, yeah, she doesn't look like you just like oh yeah she probably does crossfit or something like she probably exercises yeah she works out but yeah she doesn't look like a not like that she's gonna out deadlift 99 of the men i run into she could win a lot of bets for sure and you know a lot of bar bets yeah easily yes so we've got uh next we have yuri belkin deadlifting 970 pounds this one was like keep the sumo train. This one was like... Keep the sumo train rolling. This one was like... Was this one like last week?

This was the recent one, wasn't it? A couple months ago. Yeah, this was over a month ago by now. Which was the one... Okay. Yeah, you're right. This is the most recent one. Four weeks ago, yeah.

Is this the one where then he also then went for like... Over a thousand. Yeah, so this was... What is this? These WRPF meets? Then he went up again after that. Well, this was his second attempt,000 meters. Yeah, so this was, what is this, these WRPF meats? And then he went up again after that. Well, this was his second attempt, 970. He got on a second attempt.

He passed his third, and then he took, and in this you get fourth. You get a fourth attempt in this meat. Yep, that's the thing to know is these are these WRPF meats, which are, if you don't know, look them up, the craziest meats ever. They're in Russia. There's like a metal band just chugging away the whole time and freaking out and if massonomics were to have a meat it would have to be of this style oh we couldn't if there's not fire yeah and a metal band just russian announcers yelling

what's going on he's going to do the deadlift. This does have to also be the record for probably the second, or probably the highest second attempt ever called ever, I would assume. Yeah. I mean, it's the... I mean, at least the one that someone moved. It might have been some arbitrary. It's the second biggest deadlift ever completed in a powerlifting setting

by anyone ever. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because that Benedict, that is not just a deadlift only. Yeah, it has a deadlift. So this is the highest ever in a full meet. All right, let's see it here. And this is weighing, like, not much over 220. He was in the 242 weight class, but I think he weighed, like, 230 maybe. Yeah.

And no belt, of course. No belt, hook and rip. Yeah. And this is one of my favorite things in teaching sumo deadlift is like, get your hips open and just fucking jump. Like, you notice there's like no hinge in his deadlift at all. Well, you just straight up and down before. He just sits to it and he is straight up and down.

That fucking thing. His whole body is just upright. Yeah. Some Russian. A lot of people don't have the ability to get... Yeah, just his mobility and leverage is there. As perfect as perfect can be.

It almost doesn't seem impressive because it seems so effortless. It seems so easy. Could you imagine what it would look like if he had to grind a lift? I don't even know. I don't know how he could. I don't know how he could. I don't know if he ever has either.

I think he either gets it or he doesn't. Or doesn't, yeah. And he, in that WRPF meet, one thing that people talk about is they're using those really big wide plates. The really wide plates, yeah. So that's an advantage, especially as a sumo lifter. And then also I've heard people say that that bar that they use is extra thin and smaller diameter than even like it's like a special bar that they use there. I've seen stills of it like breaking off the ground

because there's another Russian guy at like 181 or 183, whatever that weight class is, and he did like 890 or something insane. In that same meet. And they had the video of like the plates weren't off the ground all the way yet and he was almost at lockout it's just like the perfect combination they do provide those guys with the perfect conditions to break records which still is 970 pounds like it's like i mean you still have to pick it up and everything yes yeah yeah it's that's the only reason I'm not deadlifting 970.

Not the right conditions and stuff. No Russian metal bands. Next we have one more big thing. Have you guys heard about sumo deadlifts before? Oh, I guess it's a big thing. Everyone's doing it. So, Taylor Woolham deadlift 928 in the 220-pound weight class. Taylor is dr.deadlift on Instagram. Owner of a couple 220-pound weight class. Taylor is Dr.DotDeadlift on Instagram,

owner of a couple of Massanomics hats. No big deal, but just the coolest ones. He's often wearing them in videos. You just wouldn't know because you never quite see the front of it. They're backwards all the time. Yes, it is a trick, though. If you ever watch his stuff, there's about an 80% chance he has a blue lift hat on in every video.

You should actually. It would be a fun little game to go through and count how many videos in which he's wearing that hat. It'd probably be easier to count the videos he doesn't have the hat on. In which you still can't see the logo. Go ahead and everyone go back on his videos

where you see that and ask him to turn that hat around. Or just say, ask him what that super cool hat is. Yeah, I can't quite see it. Is there any way you could turn that around in your next super big deadlift video? For your 40,000 followers, please.

But anyway, that's what we get when we don't pay them. Here's a hat, please. What more could you pay someone other than a hat, though? Yeah, what in the world

could you possibly give a person more than a hat? I don't know. We offered to buy them a drink sometime, but that didn't seem to work out.

We'll get them sometime. We'll get him sometime. We'll get him sometime. All right, here we go. This is at the – what meet was this? Reebok Record Breakers. Is that what it was, the Record Breakers? Yep, and this is 928 breaking his previous world record in the 220 weight class by just a pound or two.

That one is a little bit of a grinder i mean that is a max effort one for him for sure but and he was talking like i don't even understand how his numbers can elevate like this but he's like want to get a thousand pounds by next year yeah i'm like man that looks hard yeah like another 72 pounds yeah like you're already at the top of your game and you're going to get like nine percent better in a year like i'm nowhere near probably the top of anything and i would love to get nine percent better in a year you know uh this is the the yuri was the first one to break this record this was the long-standing ed cone dead left record and you're like 904 something like that and yuri broke it first, and then Kayla broke it,

and then rebroke it again. So that record probably won't stand for long with those two. I don't know how it could. Going again still. Up next, we have the Blaine Sumner, the VanillaGorilla92 on Instagram, with his 1,113-pound squat at the Arnold. I saw this live. Yeah.

We also very shortly after this got to chat with Blaine, big friend of the podcast. Kind of, yeah. I mean, basically. As much as it goes for people when we say that. For people that don't listen to the podcast. He might have. Look at that gold lever belt that he wears.

That is pretty ball. I've never really noticed that before. Yeah, he has like the gator. Yeah, like the python inlay on it. Who makes that belt that he's wearing? I think it's Titan. I think he's a Titan guy. And he hits pretty good.

He hits good depth on his. The crazy thing is how he sits those things down and then just blows up. Yeah. It always looks like he could do way more when he's going to do that. So that's more than anyone's ever squatted single ply. And that also was not his third attempt. That was his second. And he passed after that.

He kind of hurt himself. Did he deadlift then? Or did he not? He deadlifted because he ended with the biggest total. He did because he had still put up a pretty big total. Because I think he had the record for the biggest total single ply ever. I think so. But after the – he's been kind of fighting a battle a little bit ever since then.

Yeah, but it seems to be that he's getting a little bit better now. I think he is. I think he is. He's been posting more videos. It seems like things are going better for him. So, yeah, I hope he does get better because I'm excited to see what he can do. I believe it's just a matter if he just stays healthy, like very healthy for a full year,

he would obliterate even his own world record right now. I would say easily he'd be squatting 2,000 pounds by next year. I mean, might as well. Also has one of the better celebrations after a lift, too. I really like that Blaine just throws the fuck down. I like that a lot. This year, this is going to be from Worlds this year, correct? I can't remember. This video is not.

Oh, no, this is. We're talking Olympic lifting now. Yep, yep, yep. Switch gears a little bit. This is from a different comp but he did in worlds snatch 485 what's this guy's name and clean and jerked around 560 uh lasha lasha lasha same last name as that other guy let's just make it up lasha talakadza that sounds good to me and what country is this guy from he is is from Georgia, the country, and not the state.

Lasha, fortunately, a little interesting tidbit. This is my understanding of this. So there was like nine countries that were banned from. Oh, yeah. It's right what you said. He beat his Rio by one kilogram in this competition. Gotcha, gotcha. So you're right.

He must have done just one more on either the snatch or the clean and jerk then, one more kilo. Must have been. Yeah. But then the – I'm going to get back here. So the interesting thing was I believe, you know, as all these countries got banned from IWF Worlds because of all the retroactive failed drug tests that they got after the last two Olympics. retroactive failed drug tests that they got after the last two olympics um then my understanding is lasha however didn't compete then because he was serving a suspension for his last failed drug test

so he was good to go he's kind of getting around it on a technicality here you think there could be an asterisk next uh lasha's like his age i want to say he is either 23 or 25 um so who fucking knows what's possible in the long run but he's failed drug tests before so yeah do i think he's gonna just like be like hey you don't go the high road forever i doubt it not in that country who's to say that he couldn't uh snatch 500 pounds then like if he's well if you look at how easy that is that's pretty impressive. Isn't that pretty nuts, though, to think about that? What are those numbers, though?

What does he have here? 485 on the snatch and then 560 on the clean jerk. And I think he clean jerked 565 at Worlds here this week. That, I wouldn't even assume that's possible. Yeah, that's hard to imagine. Could you imagine 500 pounds going from the floor and over your head in literally a quarter of a second? Just the clean of that coming down on you is... So he's the strongest Olympic weightlifter ever?

Hands down, yeah. Basically, yep. And that's so fast the camera doesn't even know what the fuck is happening. But this also is not a challenging lift for him to hit. No, it's hard to understand that that is 485 pounds right there because it looks like it must be like 225 or something. Do you know how big this guy actually is? He's about 6'7", and I think he's about 380.

Damn, okay. So he is really – Not a real big guy. But he's also not – The barbell doesn't look extremely big next to him at all. It looks like that is just something he picks up and throws around, no problem. Especially with there. It just looks like it's a toy.

Yeah, he chucks almost 600 pounds like it's nothing. So he failed the drug test. Do you think ghosts were involved in that at all? Do either of you guys know about that? I heard about this. Tell me about this. One of the New York Jets wide receivers got pinned for banned substance or something like that, and he said that he believes there may have been involvement from ghosts

with getting him. And I think it's not a joke. i don't know a lot about it but it's like he said that that he thinks there may that ghosts may have uh maybe he's on to something that we're not up with yet some of these ghosts in my world so maybe lasik there's ghosts like there's a lot of ghosts in georgia it's a war-torn country the fall of the soviet union uh next we have matt fraser's back-to-back crossfit games champ um i wouldn't say that this is inherently one of the strongest events but it was or things it was definitely probably one of the most dominant performance now we're talking two years in a row of basically the crap out of everyone like smashing the fittest people in the world

and not even by a little bit. So I like dominance. I would say this is definitely... He's definitely out dealing it. The guy in the second place podium is almost higher than him. Yeah, Fikowski is legitimately way too big for CrossFit.

Fikowski is like 6'1 or 6'2. Is that who's in second? Yeah. And so, I mean, Fraser is standing on a 6- or 7-inch platform, which puts Fraser at about 5'6, which when I met Fraser, 5'6 would have been pretty fucking generous. Do you think there's any way that someone could beat him here this next year? Unless he gets hurt.

What did he win by? Was it like 80 points or something like that? Yeah, it was almost 100 points or something. And what's the final score end up being for that like around a thousand or no like 500 oh really so yeah he smashed everybody yeah i think he had had it one like hands down with like two events yeah do you know did he win by more this year or last more this year and last year was like a crazy yeah yeah they were like it wasn't even yeah so it's good i I do like that.

It's a good way to answer all the are you better than a Froning question and be like, well, someone's got to show up and even, you know, he's just smashing everybody. So Froning didn't smash anybody. You know, he just kind of did what it took to win. Tia Claire Toomey, she's not on the list. Am I saying that right? Is that right?

Yeah. She won this year, and that's after getting, like, podiuming. Like the last two years or something like that, yeah. Where is she from? Australia, I think. And then the guy in third here, Gerard, got busted for drug tests also. His answer, though. Ghosts.

Was that just recently? Yeah, it was a couple of months ago. Did we talk about that? Oh oh that's the guy we talked about what if it was somebody else that's when they kept tabled until they had other documentaries released and the ESPN thing out and then and he's like but it was oral yeah

the Bill Clinton defense no but they were orals next we have Eddie Hall wins a world strongest man No, but they were orals. Next we have Eddie Hall wins a World's Strongest Man. Not a lot to say on that other than Eddie talked a lot of shit and he finally backed it up. Pretty happy to see it. I hope he stays retired, but I don't know that he's going to. I bet he won't.

I mean, he's still going to do stuff, but I don't know that he can stay out of the spotlight he also made a lot of talk like he was gonna get jacked weight doesn't the weight came off him pretty quickly right away and then i think he's pretty much stalled so i don't know what he's doing i think it would be tough for him to win again i agree that was kind of the perfect storm for him with with the events and just kind of how things shook out too and he he probably somewhere he thinks that himself, and that's what the motivation to be like, well, fuck, Halfthor's not going to get any less strong here. Yeah, not to say he's undeserving in any way. No, no, no.

But Halfthor is so close, and Halfthor still has – like can get better. Yeah, right. I don't know that Eddie Hall can get any better. I mean, Eddie Hall was great, but I don't know that he can get better. Yeah, right. I don't know that Eddie Hall can get any better. I mean, Eddie Hall was great, but I don't know that he can get any stronger. Well, he can't really get heavier. He'll just die if he gets heavier. And Hafthor can get bigger. Yeah, he could.

The truth of the matter is, Hafthor, if he was willing to sacrifice a lot of his health, he could put on another 60 pounds. He could be 500 pounds, and he just wouldn't have abs. Maybe. Even with him, he doesn't even need to get bigger he just needs to be smarter in like he just always has these like kind of mental blunders at some point which it's so easy to do at that level too you know because everyone's the best but yeah he just if he can put together a perfect day there's no reason he couldn't just start

winning these things every year right next we have the jen th. Bench is 325 pounds. This was not in competition. In competition, though, this year she did bench 317 and a half. What does Jen weigh? She competes in the, like, 130. 63 kilos, so like 130, 140. Yeah. Well, 63 times 2 is 126, plus 12 is 138-something.

A little magic. Yeah, look at this. A little tip. So this was in front of a college football team? Yeah. And this video went really viral. Because she probably benches more than almost any guy in that room. Yes.

And she kind of always just looks like a soccer mom. Yeah, and she's just like, hey, let's go. I'm having fun. I still haven't figured out from her anatomy how she can bench this much. She kind of has long arms. Yeah, they're not, like, super short. She's not built like a bench presser. And she doesn't have, like, this insane arch that some...

No, it's like... She's got a regular old set up. Like, no one can knock and say that she's cheating in any way. No. She's just really strong. There's a lot of guys that have a shorter range of motion than hers. Yeah. I don't know.

There was plenty left in the tank. Yeah. And she gets up and she's just like, Oh, what's that? I did it. And all those other guys are demoralized. Yeah, I think if you measure it by Wilkes, her bench is in the top of pretty much anyone.

Right, I believe so. And she was wearing the Lyft shirt this morning. I would think that that's part of it. I don't know how it could be. Yeah, yeah. this i i would i think that that's part of it yeah i don't know how it could it be yeah yeah larry williams larry wheels on instagram totals 2275 pounds um nine of nine what do we have here when was this this was uh this is pretty recently this was the recent one a month ago it looks like we got 610 on the bench which is nuts where am i no no no no no no

i'm reading the wrong thing here where am i at here yeah it's 610 810 610 855 so he crushed stan efforting's this is in the 275 weight class and he he beat stan efforting's record by 50 pounds and that that record had been kind of long-standing too yeah as far as raw power lifting has been like yeah well with how many freaks are out there you just would think that that would be getting broke every year but yeah but it's still a weight class where like you're just not i mean you can't be huge huge right you gotta be like if you're if larry's doing this at with like a fucking 26-inch waist. Yeah.

If you're six feet tall to be 275 or under, you can't be like super fat. No. But to go over 800 on both the squat and deadlift. Is a big fuck. And over 600 on the bench. I don't know what the statistics on that, but it's like very, very few people in any weight class ever have done that. Yeah.

I mean, just to see a 600-pound bench in a full weight is crazy. Because that's usually limited to the bench-only guys. But yeah, like you said, to wrap that up with an over 800-pound squat and an over 800-pound deadlift is rare territory. Have you seenry's fucking body building stuff lately jesus crazy right dude i don't even understand it his whole body is made of dick skin at this point and he's all veins especially for a natty guy like that's the crazy natural as larry williams well i mean he does have some pretty good programs that he's... Six week programs? Yeah. Every post of his now, that's even just the

first thing. I don't want to trash on Larry either, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say, Larry's not writing these programs. Larry is not answering your fucking emails when you send it. That is totally someone else who went, hey, Larry, you got an interesting look and a fuck ton of followers. Let's help you make some

money. Yeah. And good for him. he's pretty crazy looking he's super jack he's doing the bodybuilding i think so he's gonna go right down the road to stand efforting and just yeah he's gonna do it he's gonna do pretty fucking good at it too i it sure looks like it to me because he has like weeks to go and he's already i don't know how a person can get leaner and still be that huge. The biggest thing I noticed, though, the biggest difference, and this is, again, not knowing hardly anything about bodybuilding, is you do notice a big difference between, like, his ab structure and, like, the IFBB guys. Like, those – the abs that the pro bodybuilders have, like, you can, like, cup around each ab perfectly. And I think his midsection is so

muscular that it's like just he's just got a thicker trunk kind of yeah and i do think for as insane as he looks if he got on stage with say like the arnold competitors oh yeah he would look small yeah he would look really small because he looks just really hard. And the guys at the shows look a lot more just, I'm not going to say huge. Just insanely much. Just rounded. Yeah, rounded and full. All right, so this is going to be the least, like the third or fourth gayest thing we post on here. Today.

But this is Larry in super tight undies, but all veins over his entire fucking body. Yeah. Chest, arms, abs. Legs. Thighs. There's like 30 veins on his pecs. Yeah. I don't even get it.

Yeah, that's fucking bananas. I will say it apparently does look like, though, like when you talk about abs on the big guys, I think a lot of that is in like HGH and insulin. And Larry, I mean, he goes hard in the paint in regards to things, but I don't think he's a big HGH guy. Like, he's not built like that. He doesn't have that big growth gut. He's not, Matty, though? Apparently not.

Like, I'm kind of going to have to reassess what I believe in. Wait a minute. You mean I can't get that jacked, Matty, on a six-week program? So if I just do something for six weeks. But if you chain a few of them together, though, it's exponential growth on there. So like 12 weeks. Well, it would be like six times six, I think, if you do them together. Yeah, to the power of.

It's a big deal. So next we have Dave Hoff set the biggest multi-play total of all time with 3,010 pounds. That's big. He had the record of 3,005. He had broken a friend of the podcast, Donnie Thompson, had an even 3,000. So Donnie was the first one with an even 3,000, and Dave here had done 3,005. Squatted 1235, benched 965, and deadlifted 810. Jesus Christ.

Yeah. So like what we were talking about earlier, the equip guys, if they were to go raw or whatever, I don't know what, say, his numbers would be after a year of raw training, but you'd think he'd – I don't know how it could be very respectable. Yeah, he's not a weak man. No, like, yeah.

He's not going to total under two. No, no. But he would never do it. I don't think ever. Yeah, ever. Here's a question for you guys. I just saw a post from him, like, yesterday where this was, like, it was a meme and it was kind of like his prediction of powerlifting.

And what it was was on a ship, the mask said raw powerlifting, and everyone was jumping off of it, fleeing from it. It's going to be like a fad. After the West Side versus the world documentary. Yeah, and no one's going to care about it. It's going to go back to equipped lifting. And maybe I'm just on the wrong side of the fence, so I don't see it, but I don't see that.

I don't either. We haven't been around in this long. There's been people that have really been in it and seen the flow for the last 20 years, so they might have a better insight. My thought on it is, I could see it getting more popular, but I just don't ever see it overtaking Raw. Just one, the accessibility. it's the same reason like everyone in the world plays basketball and soccer you can do that almost anywhere and like not many people do downhill skiing professionally because you have like it's just you gotta have a you gotta have like it's a whole different training system you gotta have a crew of guys olympics is all just rich white people exactly you cannot

compete in real sports. And obviously this isn't that much of an extreme, but now all of a sudden you're not just going to the gym and I'm going to hop into my multi-ply bench shirt and bench by myself. Right, you need like four dudes to come do the same thing with you. And just help you get into your gear, like run you through the workout. If that's going to happen, I sure don't see that being soon. But maybe that's when it happens is when it least looks likely to be that way.

But I'd be shocked. I think it would be nice if there was some sort of migration simply because there would be a little bit more balance as far as people's understanding of it. So right now there's so many people on the raw who have no idea about equipped lifting at all. And so even our commentary on it's like we've never lifted equipped any of us you know with the exception of having some knee wraps on our knees but a point i would have about it is like you can't so we made this article you can't even find a freaking video of like of the lifts of it happening because they all like hate like because like social media is

lame and it's like ruining it and all that and stuff but it's like or or or let's be real or let's be real just see fucking hoff's last fucking 1200 pound squat that then got fucking deleted and recanted yeah it looked pretty high some of that shit you can't put videos on because they don't fucking look good and then he had the video of the kind of iffy bench with maybe something stuffed in his shirt i don't know if you guys ever saw that one yeah so it's yeah it's just i won't say it's dirty or anything like that but it's just there's a little more to it yeah it's so hard to relate to that stuff too just as someone that doesn't know about it what do you know you're like well yeah like first of all i have a guy and then like trying to teach someone it's like, but they have a shirt that makes them lift more.

And they're like, okay. Like, maybe they'll get that. And they'll be like, but that guy has a thicker shirt that makes him lift even more. And then all of a sudden it's like, but what do you mean? Yeah. You know? It's like two shirts. Then it's like, why don't you just get four shirts then?

Well, you can. Yeah. That's another thing. It's a different thing, but they categorize it differently so it's equal yeah but but all that being said no doubt this guy would be a oh yeah those weights would those any of those weights would absolutely crush me in a second anyone you know 99 of the people that power left if they put 1235 with the exception of like blaine sumner i don't know anyone that could probably ever handle that stuff. Westside vs. the World is coming in January now.

Is it? That's what it says here on his post. That's been in the works for a while now. So one thing we're going to need to do when that does come out is we're each going to have to watch it separately, take notes, and then we're going to have to podcast about it. I'm excited for it. It covers one podcast idea, guys.

Normally we come into this show. January is going to be smooth sailing. By the way, I'm going to need to share your Amazon account because I don't want to have to pay for three copies. Talking about that West Side film, that's going to change the perception. I feel like it's going to be a really cool movie and everything but i'm gonna get done with it and be like oh glad i'm not in that culture yeah i'd be like man those guys seem angry well like that's the whole thing is like they say it's like a cutthroat culture and everyone's so competitive

like they're kind of like assholes to each other and like seem very fun yeah i don't need that just want to have fun yeah you want to come in and be like all right rook first thing you're doing go clean the fucking toilet it's like well i'm not gonna work out here you know all right next we've got uh christy hawkins totals 1434 for a 624 will and i didn't know about this one until i saw the list and i was pretty blown away by this one from a wilks uh perspective that is is, I think scroll down just a smidge more, or maybe hers says it or our description says it. I think it's just under Zaheer. Yeah.

She squatted, where are we at here? Squatted 573, benched 314, and deadlift 547 at 163 pound body weight. Jesus Christ. Her arms, I think, are bigger than mine. They probably are. I don't have big arms. The squat was a world record. The deadlift was a world record until someone else broke it that day.

And I think on her third attempt bench, which she maybe didn't get, she attempted a world record. So it's like all three lifts. Yeah, can you imagine that on all three lifts, like you're setting world records? Only every day. That's like comparable, more well-rounded than like Larry Wheels, who we were talking about earlier.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then again, the Wilkes to back it up. Yeah, the Wilkes, I think she's like, it's either like third or fourth highest Wilks ever of any. Regardless man or woman. Yeah, man or woman. And what Zaheer's is like 633 or something like that. So she's not far off of it.

So like one more made attempt. And I wonder if she wouldn't be. Yeah, that's like it's just having the highest Wilks of all time. be yeah that's like it's just having the highest wilks of all time next we have the ray williams squats 1053 pounds in sleeves only i mean he was wearing other things but sleeves would have been the only i wish it would have been in just sleeves hashtag spotter goal. He'd be making a lot more lists then. Did any, either you guys see this in person?

I didn't see it in person. We missed this in person when we were there. It wasn't for a lack of trying. It just meets for a long. The Arnold's very confusing to navigate. And also, there's no way you could have got a close seat to this when it was going on because it was a packed house just for regular people going, and I'm sure it got insane when he was up there squatting. Yeah, if you haven't seen the video yet,

this is probably the most viral lifting video of the year. I mean, it was on everything. It was all over ESPN. It just takes time. And when you're Ray and you're walking out 1,000 to get ready, you just need to let that weight sit on your back for 20 seconds. Then he sucks all the air out

of the room by gulping it down. That didn't look very hard. It really didn't. Like, if you would have put 50 more pounds on that bar and not told him, do you really think he would have not gone up? I don't know it just seems like he was going to get it no matter what so this i don't care if we've talked about

this how many people or has anyone else squatted over a thousand pounds with just knee sleeves the only other one is jesse uepa oh yeah yeah and he's like right right there with ray for total number like just just back and forth so ray alone probably – or he has squatted more – he's squatted 1,000 pounds more in wraps than the rest of the world combined. In sleeves, probably. Yeah, then – Because Jez has probably done it a few times. And I think Ray had the tally on his belt.

And those are the only two. So it's just the rest of the world is just Jezzy, the other guy. I think he had a tally. Like, he puts it on Instagram. He has a tally on the inside of his boat. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, he had, like, 20 or 30 thousand-pound squats. Right.

So the first on the list was that Vlad breaking the 1,100 pounds in sleeves. Last is Ray doing 1,053. First guy in wraps, just in sleeve so it's like not going to be very long until ray is doing the 500 kilogram assuming he stays healthy i don't know why he couldn't get there at some point have you ever seen the videos of ray like when he first like popped up on anyone's radar he's at a meet he's at a meet like in alabama like I don't even think he has a belt on. I think it's bare knees, and I want to say this is like four or five years ago. And it's like in some school.

He's in a 185-pound weight class. He looks fairly similar. I think he was a little slimmer then. But like no belt, no sleeves, and it's just like in a high school gymnasium with just straight-up steel plates. And he squatted, I think it was like 880 or 890. And that's kind of how he just started showing up, which at the time was, I think, set the record even then. Well, and they say that was when he squatted that that day, that was like 200 pounds more than he had ever squatted.

The most he had ever squatted before that was 705. And the reason being he had never squatted more was because his bar and plates that he had would not hold more than that so the most he would do he would do it for working sets but he never could do more than he never had done more than that just because what was the weight he did that like uh oh eight over eight something it was like 150 pounds more than he had ever tried just because he didn't have a bar that which like like that makes you realize, like, I should just. Like, there's no point. Like, I don't.

You're just not born with it. Yes, he's got something special. You know, I was thinking also we could maybe throw an honorable mention out there. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. What ones do you. There's some that come to mind. Yeah, there's one that comes to my mind. Our good buddy, Bud Jeffriesries had a pretty impressive performance of strength

walking through uh fire uh there was a yoke and he looked really good doing it he had a lift shirt on so yeah yeah that's that would be a and he was yeah he was pulling a tire he was pulling a tire the ground around him was on fire he had like a series oh and he also had um super heavy kettlebells strapped around his like hanging weights but yeah yeah yeah unreal so that that might be performance of the year maybe for sure and the fire was everywhere yes fucking everywhere i saw the other day he had a uh strongman log with the ends on fire and he was spinning in a circle yeah like when he pops up i'm just like i'm really curious to like know what what he's got going on here follow bud jeffries guys yeah um tanner you got a little bit so anyway this is going to be on massonomics.com

it's live now um check it out give it a good read you can see the videos we got videos all the videos are linked into the deal so you can see pretty much everything that happened all in one article. Tanner, we got a little bit of feedback from last week's episode. That was last week's, right? Yeah. Yeah. So we talked about open powerlifting. It was the first I had ever heard of it.

I think maybe the first Tyler had. You kind of introduced it to us, and we posted about that today, and we got quite a bit of feedback. And the guys from open powerlifting got back to us too and had a couple comments about, you know, they're obviously really excited about seeing it. You know, they like to see the publicity and everything. They're actively trying to grow it.

But they said if people out there are wanting – actually, I made the comment in the episode that there was a couple of meets that I did that weren't in there. So they responded to me to that and they said, oh, that we want to hear that if there's meets that aren't in there that you've done, let us know, send us any information you can find about those meets because we want to get them put in there. And also they said like uh for yours they're like if you could tell them uh to send us his instagram handle because we want to add those to uh anyone that they can and they were talking about uh people helping out we also mentioned that they don't have an app

so that was something that they said they they desperately want an app but they're only limited at this point by uh the volunteer work that they get. Because it's literally all volunteer. From what I understand, a guy owns the site, and then it's just these people volunteering to... Wait a minute, you guys mean software development costs money? Apparently. Fuck. We make jokes about putting time into doing a podcast and stuff, but the idea of putting time into just entering numbers and organizing all that stuff.

I would not enter fucking data if you paid me $100,000 a year. I wouldn't do that for 40 hours a week. I would do it for two fucking hours. Not even entering, just finding the stuff. Like, oh, I've got to track down results from another meet? Are you kidding me? And so that's what the – if anyone out there listening ever wants to help there's a couple of ways like they literally the the way they do it is people offer to help and then they sit down over the phone or over the internet or whatever

there's a little bit of coding that has to be done in order to do it but they said it's pretty pretty basic anyone can they can teach it to anyone with just a little bit of uh uh little tiny bit of training so if anyone out there feels like they would want to contribute to that they they certainly take volunteers but uh the other thing that they almost basically told me not to mention are you gonna mention it yeah they said i i asked if i if i could mention this and they almost said they didn't know because they don't want to act like they're uh looking for money but they have like a uh patreon yeah patreon account and so that people

can contribute to that if they want to but they literally said like we are not out here soliciting for money but I think that's good like a lot of people like patreon is becoming a more common thing with people. And I like the idea of patron because if people are getting money for something, that means they can do better with it. Yes. And it's the same thing. Like if we were taking money for the podcast, we could invest into making a crazy legit setup. Like, does that matter to everyone?

No, but it actually shows that we're trying to make this better for you guys. So the fact that they do want to take some money makes me think that, yeah, they want to make this a better service for everyone. So I think it's a good idea. Yeah, definitely. And, you know, I respect the fact that they're like, well, don't, you know, don't make a big deal about the money. Like we're not, we don't want to look like we're beggars or whatever.

But, you know, if you're really into it and you really like it, it wouldn't be the worst thing to kick over a few few dollars too i would say yeah definitely uh that was about it so i was interested to hear that feedback from them though i yeah i do really think it's a cool thing that they've got going well they're definitely involved in the community and stuff you know the fact that they picked up on this right away and yeah i mean they had good feedback for us so that's awesome and they said they they're all active listeners of the Massonomics podcast now, and they love it. And they said specifically it's – I won't read it verbatim

because I don't want to look through and find it, but they're really excited that they found a powerlifting podcast that is produced on the equivalent as Mark Bell's PowerCast, but something else they can watch that's similar to that you said well we have a way bigger budget than him so yeah i was like we have like an limit unlimited budget i don't think you guys understand how deep we go here i mean we could do about anything that mark bell can do short of actually make money i uh we we have been small we have been getting more podcast reviews two of the numbers going up

but i just can't ever read them we gotta we gotta do small. We have been getting more podcast reviews, two of the numbers going up, but I just can't ever read them. We got it. We got to do some digging on that and find out where those things are. Yeah. I forget about that. The numbers going up, but I get some DMS on it too. And, uh, Michael Shalene, I'm going to go with, he just dropped us a message just today

and said, Hey, I just want to say thank you guys for the podcast. Fair amount of knowledge, but also fun and relatable with a lot of exclamation marks behind all that so what more good to hear from you uh michael and many other people like that saying similar things so thank you people that are saying giving us the feedback quite a quite a few youtube comments lately too saying the same thing so we we appreciate getting those. Yeah. And we also, in the holiday spirit here, you know, this is about New Year's time, our good friends Huck Finn and Jackton Homeless. Jesus Christ.

We're up to a little trouble this weekend. Jackton Homeless was wearing his Masonomic singlet. Happy to see that. While piss-pounding beers and driving a vehicle in the snow yep pulling behind him would look like a car door i guess something i couldn't tell it didn't look like your normal sled with with uh with tom finn laying on it floor pressing not a weight that really matters but like yeah I also saw some fucking asshat commenting on this thing and he goes, oh, a bunch of half reps.

And I'm like, where's it going to go down to? Where's it going to go down to? Scrape your elbows on the... Son of a bitch. Well, and also, like, his elbows were in the snow while the vehicle was moving. So, like, the way a floor press works is unless you're certainly thicker than I, the bar doesn't make it to your chest. Right. Fuck off.

I did see some comments. And not when you're going 15 miles an hour behind a fucking pickup on the street. That's not really the point of that. That's a typical thing. Somebody is benching while getting drug through the snow behind a truck. Yeah. And someone's going to come in and be like, fucking quarter-ups. I did.

There was quite a few comments. Like, one I saw, that's pretty funny, but you are drinking and driving, right? Which that never dawned on me until you mentioned that. Yeah. Listen, where we're from,

I wouldn't say it's legal. It just happens a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. I would say you've never really gone sledding though unless you've uh been pulled around like by a vehicle in an old satellite dish i don't know if any of you guys have ever done that i've never been pulled in a satellite dish i've been pulled just i mean if you just want to go sledding get pulled in a sled behind a vehicle

is pretty fucking intense yeah i'm like i'm guessing a lot of city folk don't quite get that no no that's a south dakota we used to go right out back and just put a four-wheeler and fucking whip dangerously. Where you go flying and there's maybe like two inches of snow. Just like enough snow to not do anything besides look like snow. Well, the only purpose of the snow is to be slippery. It's not there to provide padding. And it's not like you're sledding distances.

When you go sledding like that. It's just constantly spinning around. I would say probably like 70 miles an hour. G-forces. With children. Yeah. If I was to do that now,

I would get hurt right away on the first one. On contest. Like sitting down into the sled. Broke my arm. You can take that stuff when you're a kid, though. Yeah.

Your bones are... It is negative 15 degrees here in South Dakota. Yeah, it got cold all of a sudden. And when I was gone for the last five days, that means I came home and my pipes were frozen. So I didn't have any water when I got home, which was less than ideal. Oh.

Chris Wiest, a guy also with Masonomics Singlet, I was talking to him the other day, and he's like, oh, man, it's cold here. This was this morning, and he's like, it's only 15 degrees here. And I was like, it's negative 15 degrees here. Mine is 35 degrees of wind chill here. We're talking like 30, 40 degrees colder than what you're calling i cold i went outside this morning and the first thing that popped in my head is do i still want to live

it sucks it hurts like is this a thing that is this a world that i need to be alive in i i think there's probably a lot of people that listen to this that don't understand what that's actually like oh i got i got fucking messages from a couple of our listeners who like who i had posted something on instagram about the temperature because it was like minus 15 this morning when i was headed to work not counting the wind chill yeah and someone was like oh minus or no it was like it wasn't mine it was like you know 58 degrees here in california and the sun's setting he's like gonna have to get a sweater and i was like god damn it well and just the wind people don't realize what that does like i i was on the other side of the state and it was zero no wind and it's like just zero not bad and i was like oh it's just zero like this isn't i mean

like really like people like oh it's zero but like you stand out outside it's like this really isn't that bad and i even walked into a uh a fast food place just to get some food quick i had a sweatshirt on and ladies like yeah you can tell you're in south dakota when it's zero and everyone that And I even walked into a fast food place just to get some food quick. I had a sweatshirt on. And the lady's like, yeah, you can tell you're in South Dakota when it's zero. And everyone that walks in here just has a sweatshirt on, and they just seem fine. It's like, yeah, it's really not bad. And when I got home, the wind was blowing, and it was like negative whatever it was, and it hurt. It felt way different.

It hurts so bad. It does. It sucks. Why does the wind hurt my face? hurts so bad it does sucks why does the wind hurt my face so listen guys if anyone's looking to move the entire mass economics crew and our families to somewhere warm and pay for literally all of it and our entire livelihoods we'd be open to those numbers we could start a patreon for that the problem is i think that would take a lot of money if a thousand of you donate a thousand dollars we could make this how long would it take before we spent that money on something that

wasn't that a day a day we won't know until we have it we got 35 we'll just get that money and what's the going rate we'll worry about that we'll get the money, invest it in Bitcoin, be rich. Lose our asses in four days. Does everyone just talk about... Well, neither of you guys have a normal job, but Bitcoin's one of those things that comes up where you go to work and everyone's like... Well, you kind of work in a job that involves investing.

But people are just like... People that don't know about it. Yeah, it's like, how about that Bitcoin? You're like, this is the first week you've heard of it i'm not talking to you about yeah i did like guys it exists solely so you can buy narcotics and credit card numbers on the internet that's what bitcoin is i had to write a a paper on i wrote a paper on bitcoin and like i guess it was probably 2012 or 2013 and like i want to go back and pull it out and see what some of the value was of it oh it's like i wrote i i was doing like studying on bitcoin for weeks and i didn't bother to maybe just like buy maybe i

should buy just for the hell of it and you would be very rich right now with a hundred dollars i had i had like 25 laying in a bitcoin wallet that one like three week period all of a sudden was worth 75 and two weeks later was worth 12 and you're just like and people are like guys it's time to get in and i'm like fuck you are you out of your fucking mind? You're going to tether your entire livelihood or even an amount of money that matters to you? Like, listen, use it to buy drugs and credit card numbers on the internet. As a really general rule on these very volatile things, the time to get in is almost never when everyone's talking about it. When everyone's like, oh my God, is this Bitcoin?

Don't they always say buy high and sell low? Isn't that the old saying? Buy high and ride it out? Is that how it goes? And you know when you're getting your average insurance salesman in my CrossFit gym who's like, how about that Bitcoin? I'm just like, not talking to you. Just don't walk away.

One other pop. They're like, oh, you know, I like to maybe play. I'm like, that's wonderful. Not talking about it it the stock market's literally been there for 100 years you could do that if you do that with things that are real money because the only way bitcoin works let's be real to to these people is like uh i gotta turn my real money into this and then when it becomes a thing i sell it then and then i turn it back into real money so like they're not even concerned about what it's actual what it they're just like well how can i make this back into real money yeah that's so like trick like you're already fucking up like

we're not having this conversation everyone wants the get rich quick thing well that's like you just buy it today and in two years you're a billionaire. Were you saying another one though? Oh, unrelated to that, but just something else I meant to ask you guys last few weeks is what do you guys, just on one or two sentences, what are your opinion on all the diddlers? Like the molesters? Yeah, and all that.

What side are you on? In favor of the diddling? I was going to go the hard route. Everybody tell the story about the closest you've ever been to being molested and go. Totally joking. Tell that story, Tommy. Yeah, there's a lot of creepy people out there. But I think if you think about it, really, we could all think like, oh, yeah, I know creepy people.

So I don't think it should be a surprise to anyone. I'm like the third creepiest person I've ever met. I know creepy people, so I don't think it should be a surprise to anyone. I'm like the third creepiest person I've ever met. But on the devil's advocate side of it, what about the people that did stuff a long time ago that maybe really wasn't that bad? It's kind of like... Maybe they verbally abused... Yeah, somebody when that was just a thing you did.

And it's like 30 years later, it's like, no, you don't... Some of that's like, you're just a shitty person. Yeah. Like, I can just be an asshole. You don't got to put him in jail. Right. You can just be an asshole. Right.

Yeah. I also think that like, some of the stuff is just like, sometimes you just, granted, when you're talking like abuse or whatever, it's a different category. I got to preface all of it. I was going to say, you can't even say anything. I can't even say anything about it because i'm like something's gonna be like but at some point i do think there's a lot of different levels to this stuff yeah like some people have had some really bad things happen to them but i also believe that you should let old white dudes be old white dudes and you just be like listen just just yeah don't go in a room

with that guy he's fucking weird as shit. I heard some things. Like, just don't. He's going to say something sexist and racist both. He's not going to hit you or hurt you, but he's going to say some things because he's just an old white guy. You ever try to convince your grandpa of anything? Like, literally of anything. It won't, like, it's impossible.

Well, mine are all dead, so thanks. See, now I'm the bad guy. So we do have a few minutes to kill. I did get something interesting that we've been seeing a lot of here. Oh. I got some basically ammonia. The packets. The packets.

Have you guys ever tried the packets? I have never. I have that powerlifting meat only. It's the only time I ever have. This has an ingredients label on it, though, and I'm not used to seeing that. Yeah. It's like 80% intensity is what it says. Well, this doesn't add up to me, though, here.

0.3 milliliters ammonia inhalant. It's 35% alcohol, 15% ammonia. Yeah. And no other. The other 50% is excellent. Like if you're going to put the percentages on, it's half super cool shit. So 50% is accounted for. We don't know what the other 50% is. Now, obviously what we're going to do is we're all going to break this

and try this right now. I'm going to try it really apprehensively. I will tell you i will tell you this uh this is way stronger than the bottle really you think so holy shit i tried just one just when i got them and i i was like like you get in you're like huh huh and then you're like whoa what the fuck so uh tanner i'm gonna have you go so do you just uh snap it you just crush it squeeze it crush it with your right in the middle just crush it like a there you go it's gnarly right yeah that's way it's a way intense fucking deal

yeah especially when you're not really like... I'll go next here. I mostly want to do it. I have a cold thing going on. It really clears you up. It opens you up. Yeah. Tyler up to bat.

When it bites, it really gets in there. I'm picking up some secondhand smoke over here, Tyler. All right, Tommy. All right. Take us home. Ooh.

Ooh. Ooh. Yeah. It's that good stuff. It's that good good. So this is a... Yeah. Ooh. It sticks around for good. So this is a... Yeah. It sticks around for a little while, but you can tell it's...

It does die out, but honestly, I think if you waited for a few minutes, you might have a dose that would be respectable to what you'd get out of a bottle. Like as far as like... I don't know. I've done fresh bottles before. I mean, if you really get in... I've gotten fresh bottle on accident. I was alone at the gym. I almost thought I you really get in. I've gotten fresh bottle on accident. I was alone at the gym.

I almost thought I was going to die. But I'll tell you this. I've been in, like, full tears. I'll tell you this, though. If you get into this, like, you accidentally get into a fresh bottle, this is going to fuck your world up. My worst experience ever with it was I was alone at the gym in the morning one day, and I was just – I'm not a morning lifter.

And I'm down there. I had a heavy squat. I was trying to just get myself going and so i grabbed a bottle of nose torque it was an old one so it was like nothing like that i had to learn there i had to have my nose in the bottle to like even get the sensation so i'm like okay whatever and so do my first set next set i'm like okay i gotta do that one more time not even looking i just go into the chalkboard grab a bottle do the same thing and that was a brand new bottle and i thought my head was gonna just like bleed out of my nose like i went from going to lifting to oh like like this is bad this is bad and i had to like chill

out for a few minutes after that so that's my worst experience with that my worst experience was basically when i tried this when i got it. This is also the first time. Not this one, but like when I opened these up when I got them. This is also the first time I've ever tried to do one like completely like just mellow, like unstimulated or lifting environment, no music or anything. It is much less enjoyable. We always have about four different bottles circulating in our talk ball. And always three of them should be thrown in the trash.

So that's the other day I was like, God, I'm going to throw a couple of these away. But that's a really dangerous game when I'm not, when you don't really want it. And I'm like, yeah. And then I'm like, oh, no, okay, no, those are going to get thrown away. And then you're like, oh, no, that was good. That's a keeper.

Insider tip, writing the dates of the bottles on the bottles is key. Yes, definitely. It's those little things. The date that you open it. Yep, makes a huge difference. It kind of gets wet after a while. Yeah, it kind of stays on your fingers too. It's those little things. The date that you open it. Yep. Makes a huge difference. It gets wet after a while. Yeah, it kind of stays on your fingers too.

But it goes, because it's ammonia and alcohol, it will 100% evaporate. So that's the key. Well, there's also 50% also. Well, 50% something. It's a mystery ingredient. And apparently some of that 50% is made of red. They break really easily. You wouldn't want to have a package of those get smashed.

I was interested in how those were going to come from Amazon. Yeah. You wouldn't want to have a package of those get smashed. I was interested in how those were going to come from Amazon. Because I've got an equipment ship to me that shows up literally dropped out of the box in my front step. If this got beat up, half of them could be smashed. So this came from Amazon? Yeah. How did they send it?

What's the quantity? Is it a box of 100? Okay. What's that run? Not as affordable as I would think. I think it was like $12 for a box or $20 for a box. In our gym, that wouldn't be affordable, though, because there's some people that use it multiple times a day.

Affordable and the cleanup would be. Well, yeah. I mean, it adds an element to it. No, I would tell you, honestly, if I was going to just casually lift, I'd probably still take another bite off of this one. you probably get a couple of sets if you're just buying these for yourself too that it's not unaffordable well i mean it would take me a long and that's i basically bought them for that strongman competition and 100 of these would last you a long time because like the bottle no matter what once you open the bottle you got a couple months on it well

yeah i actually think for a personal individual purchasing, this is a better idea than a bottle. Probably. Just because you're not wasting any. Right. Basically. But yeah, so I figured I'd share that with you today. Sweet. It was a real treat. I feel really enlightened right now,

Tyler. Very focused. You just want to lift again? Alright, well, that's going to do it for us today um we'll give you the big rundown here make sure you go to apple podcast leave us a review i promise someday we'll figure out how to read them make sure you go to massonomics.com they're gonna find their store you're gonna find all our shirts hats all our super dank articles just like the strongest moments of 2017 article we covered today. Yeah. Whew. Nose pork.

It's lingering. It has a good smell after a while. Lingering. Yeah, it kind of hangs in there. Yeah. Like a good household cleaner. Like a cologne. Yeah. Something you could really get a weird high off of.

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