Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - 1% Biker BUSTED making $200K/Week

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

From biker gang enforcer to ordained minister, Gunny shares his jaw-dropping transformation—from collecting cash and running drug operations for one of the most feared motorcycle clubs in the countr...y to finding redemption through faith and service. He opens up about his wildest moments, federal takedown, and how his daughter’s overdose became the catalyst for his second chance at life.Gunny's linkshttps://www.facebook.com/freedomconnectionministrygahttps://www.freedomconnectionga.com/Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit https://GhostBed.com/cox and use code COX at checkout.Do you want to be a guest? Fill out the form https://forms.gle/5H7FnhvMHKtUnq7k7Send me an email here: insidetruecrime@gmail.comDo you extra clips and behind the scenes content?Subscribe to my Patreon: https://patreon.com/InsideTrueCrime Follow me on all socials!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matthewcoxtruecrimeDo you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopartListen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox Check out my true crime books! Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCFBent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TMIt's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5GDevil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3KBailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel!Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WXIf you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here:Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69Cashapp: $coxcon69

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Starting point is 00:00:31 They pat me down Put me on the chair And I was like I'm going to jail for the rest of my life When I was in college I went to a party and met Mongols Some Mongols And I love
Starting point is 00:00:42 I'm the person The biker club The bike is a biker club And The patches it And it's just what They have It was intriguing to me
Starting point is 00:00:52 And I had to have it And I needed it And I walked up to the guy I said hi, I introduced myself, and he says, okay, and we started talking. I said, how do I get in? Because I'm into Harleys, I was into all that stuff, crotchets, and so forth. He says, we don't ride crotrockets, we just ride strictly Harleys. He said, okay, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I can get a Harley. And he says, how can I get in? He said, you have the prospect. So me not knowing Anything about prospecting, anything like that And I had what is prospecting Basically he said You're basically being a bitch
Starting point is 00:01:37 You're doing everything Washing bikes Whatever they tell you to do You have to do And when I was growing up They used to make this as When we had a raffle sale It made me
Starting point is 00:01:49 Me being as tall as I am I had to wear a thong they didn't have find no high hill shoes because I wear a size 15 shoe but I had to wear a thong and knitted stockings and be on the corner selling raffle tickets I was like oh my god and it was that's how to see if you was a brother right see but there's other things I can tell you about too
Starting point is 00:02:16 that's the so after about two months I told him I was a good fighter wrong thing to do oh they say they said because you know in the in the biker club
Starting point is 00:02:30 biker world you earn your name they give you the name if you mess up do something stupid or whatever it may be that's how you get your name
Starting point is 00:02:40 right and my thing is I said I'd like to fight and I said I'm a very good fighter he said yeah one morning one afternoon
Starting point is 00:02:50 excuse me they say come on um prospect so we go we go to this bar i didn't know it was a bar that we were not friends with right so i go into this bar and the guy says one of the higher-ups brother says you go in there and hit the biggest guy and just start handling your business i said okay So I go in the bar, walk up to the biggest guy, hit the biggest guy, and just, I didn't say no words, no, I just hit them. I knocked them out. The next thing I know I have people with pool sticks, cue balls, beer bottles, they were beating the brakes off of me.
Starting point is 00:03:41 After for about a good, I said it was five minutes a longer, but they said, no, it was about four or five seconds. They beat the brakes off me, and they came in, and they, whatever they did, because I was already bloody and I was seeing me unconscious, but they come in and got me, carry me out, and they looked at me and said, man, you got the biggest cahunas. And I know, we didn't really think you was going there and do. I said, but you told me I had to do. that and that's what i did he said brother that's a kamikaze missionary it's not because you wasn't going to live but uh i did that um and then we got they said we got the perfect name for you
Starting point is 00:04:39 we don't call you reaper and once they said reaper i already know what a reaper was the greener was oh hell yeah that's it yeah so i became reaper and funds parts so now I'm just ordered I get in the club so only prospected for two months I didn't prospect for the whole six months or a year right I prospect for two months and the people I met like the president the VP I became friends with I would fly to California just to hang out and go to church and stuff like that meet other boys brothers, you know, and once I started getting my meeting everybody, mingling, partying, having fun drinking, throwing powder, and all this, all the fun things, the women,
Starting point is 00:05:37 because that's what's exciting me, the women, the drugs, everything. That's all exciting to me. So I did that for a couple months, about four or five months. And so I'm on to Baltimore on the East Coast. So it wasn't too many East Coast clubs when I was. The only club it was, it was New York. It was New York, Virginia and Florida, them three. And I was going back around, you know, going, taking rides,
Starting point is 00:06:20 riding the Harley all over the place. So I met with one of the presidents at the time and to sit there and talk to him. And they said, I heard you want to make money. I want to make a lot of money. I don't want to say, okay. But before we do that, we have to do this. And they sent me on a mission. And the mission was to go collect money from people that owe us money.
Starting point is 00:06:57 So, and he said, if you collect this money, if they don't give you the money, you have to break something or cut somebody's finger off. You have to show me that you went over there to take care of business. Right. So I started doing that, collecting money for the president and so forth. Then my name started getting out there. if he sends this guy reprafing two things you better run or pay up so that's what happened and then he made me
Starting point is 00:07:29 the people didn't know this but I was I was his enforcer I was the enforcer but the club members didn't know I was the enforcer national enforcer because we had a national enforcer but I was the national enforcer as well I was the one they came to and when they needed
Starting point is 00:07:53 business taken care of or needed somebody not alive or hurt or broken or whatever it may be. So that was my job. What did the other guy do? What was the other guy? The other guy, he was enforcered, but he was
Starting point is 00:08:09 more around the president. Me, I was getting sent to him. So he's more like protection as opposed to they're sending you off to collect? Okay. Yeah. He was more he was the enforcer but he he wasn't going around to different like the east coast
Starting point is 00:08:26 that's what he was sending me to like the east coast to this uh Texas and he stayed uh I guess around right this California area that surrounding area but I was going around taking pair of business at different states um I did really well at that
Starting point is 00:08:47 And he comes to me, he says, we need the East Coast boss. I said, okay. He says, we don't want to give you the East Coast boss. And I became the East Coast boss. I had fun. That was the best time of my life. Now, me and he's now, remember, I said I wanted to make money. So they gave me the opportunity to make money.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Can I ask you a question real quick? You can say East Coast boss, what does that mean that there's a chapter on the East Coast that has 60 members and they need somebody to be like the president or the, well, like, I don't understand what the bosses and what's... The East Coast boss, I was in charge of anything on the East Coast, opening chapters, getting members, anything of that nature. I was, anything I wanted to do for the club, that's what I had to do, like get members. Open up chapters and stuff like that. You know, I want to ask a question, and I know how horrible this question, how bad this question is,
Starting point is 00:09:55 and I know how this is going to make me sound, but like, does that, does they pay you for this? Do you actually get like a salary? I was going to ask something similar, like, what is? I'm sure it's not W2. There's no 401K, but, um, are people joining, is there medical, no. Are they, are they just joining the biker club just to be a part of something?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Or are they, okay, you join, And then we're going to start robbing houses. Or we're going to start sticking up other games. I immediately think of ice. I think somebody may, because most of the guys I know that have manufactured ice, not one of these guys doesn't have a story that doesn't involve bikers. Like the bikers will come and say, we've got these, for instance, Pete, and Pete's my buddy Pete's story.
Starting point is 00:10:39 He, um, he, uh, the hell's angels through another guy came to them. And they actually had the precursor materials to make X-D, which is what he was making. And they said, we have the precursor materials, and we can give it to you to help you make X-D. And he was like, okay, they said, but we also have, you know, a 50-gallon drum of pseudafed. Right. Or whatever that was, they said, we need you to make ice. And they were like, well, I've never made ice before, but I can look it up. You know, they went and found the formula.
Starting point is 00:11:16 came back and made, made ice for them. But it always seems to, and this was back in the late 80s, early 90s. Okay. So how did I get money? My job was to get members. Okay. And the members come in. And they pay?
Starting point is 00:11:35 They pay a due. They pay for the cuts and so forth. The cuts are like this. They're patches and stuff like that. They require cuts. Okay. And, and what are the dues? How much, what is a monthly, is it like a monthly, do you pay 50 bucks or 100 or?
Starting point is 00:11:53 Okay. So it depends on, it was a set rate, but the set rate was like, say, 50 bucks a month. And then we had a war fund. Then when I say, yeah, you had to donate to the war fund too. That was like 25 bucks a person. Okay. So it's 50 bucks a person plus 25. $5 for a person for a war fund.
Starting point is 00:12:18 But as me doing this and getting members, I'm getting to know them. Right. And I'm feeling them out. So I'll go back and says, okay, I'm ready to make some money, real money. So they come, say, give me a week.
Starting point is 00:12:34 A week comes, and they come to me and says, here's a key, here's a key of powder. And back then, I was getting charged $15,000. thousand dollars for powder for key for key so i was i started out with that and me from me meeting people on the east coast and jumping different chapters dealing with the buds the cribs all them i'm dealing with everybody now started making money the first the first key i sold in two days
Starting point is 00:13:09 like yeah i'll go back what are you selling that you bought it for 15 or selling for like 25 or No, I broke it. I sold some in ounces and quarters and halves. And then I had people. I started getting people to work for me that were selling it. Then I was selling weight. So I probably made about $25,000 at first. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Off of each key. Okay. 25 to $30,000, just say that off of each key. Because you're breaking it down. Yeah, I'm breaking it down. Once you start moving, weight it's not as much but it's volume yes and so it's more in volume because now it's 10 or five or as opposed to one that you're a lot more risk to break it down you're dealing with a lot
Starting point is 00:13:55 more people right and um you're 100% based on my vast experience yeah so if you have if you're selling weight you can move it faster but it's the point of trying to find the people that want to spend that money and that won't wait like that and want to consider you system basis because now I'm getting it and I'm moving it real fast so I'm getting it and I can tell this guy I promise you I bring you this much money on Thursday so this guy is waiting for his money on Thursday so the way it worked is I started out with one key next thing I know I moved up to four keys I'm knocking that out Now I'm starting to build, I'm trying to think of the word here. Like a reputation or a reputation, but a circle. A network, yeah, yeah, yeah. A network.
Starting point is 00:14:55 So I'm building a network. Now I'm like, okay, I can get this one, this one, this one. I'm asking them what they can move, what they can sell, how much and dada. So they come to me. It says if you do this, if you come to me, we can sell an ounces of powder for them. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus,
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Starting point is 00:16:00 Because if you break it down, you're only paying like $5.50 an ounce yourself. Right. Or $400 some in that ring from $450 to 550 or something. in that range. So I'm selling this stuff, but I'm making it killing because now, okay, I know I'm paying $500 an ounce,
Starting point is 00:16:26 but I'm giving it to you for $900 an ounce. And if I don't know you like that, I'm giving it to you for $1,000. So people that was down in my network, okay, and they were doing real well, I'll say, okay, I'm making $500 off an ounce. I'm going to give this guy since he's doing real well.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'll give him a $700 ounce. So he's making money. I'm making money. We all making money now. And my job was I wanted to flood Baltimore in a place because Baltimore is the capital of powder, dog food, and other substance. that were
Starting point is 00:17:16 and it's bad whatever you want it there you could get if you walk on the corner you say I need this so okay hold on you get it so I started a strip
Starting point is 00:17:31 in Baltimore we call them strips so we have alleys and what we would do we would set up wake up I had shifts I started shift work I would have people come All the people I had on the street was selling
Starting point is 00:17:49 I would have shifts So I would say, okay, we're going to work from 10 to 3 Knock off for an hour or two Next shift comes on It's like a job Right So I'm making much more money now
Starting point is 00:18:06 Because I'm selling $10 pieces And by I was not that big, so I'm selling. So it was a store, but I would have people lined up around the corner waiting for this, for the powder, because guess what? I didn't cut it. I didn't do anything like that. The way I got it, it's the way I sold.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I started making money fast like that. Next thing I know, in a couple months, I was up to 100 keys of powder a month. And I was like, good God. I wish I had picture My wife has a picture This table Say this table
Starting point is 00:18:51 I had stacks of money This high And what I was doing We would be counting it Had money machines counting Anything if it was $1 bills I had my boys
Starting point is 00:19:03 Throw the money out the window And give to everybody It has to be Five, tens 20s, 50s and up If it's a $1 bill I don't want it Man
Starting point is 00:19:13 It was so much money. I never thought in my life I was seeing over a million dollars in cash. And after I paid everybody, I was still coming, making about $200,000 a week. Profit. Right. And, you know, and it just went on and on. I was in a club for about 15 years. And I just, I had a good run.
Starting point is 00:19:43 had a good run and now I'm assuming that the police at some point are frowning on this you want to know oh I have to go back here so I'm a one I became a one percenter okay so my father
Starting point is 00:19:59 is a police officer now right so me and him have the same name I would get locked up and they wasn't called my dad and says what did you do did you get locked up last night?
Starting point is 00:20:14 And Paul said, no, why? He said, somebody named, my name, was locked up. And he said, oh, that must have been my goofball son. He must have been really happy about that. Yeah, because my father was a high-ranking police official. So every time I would get locked up, everybody in Baltimore knew who I was. What are you getting locked up for? Fighting.
Starting point is 00:20:43 peeing in the alley doing stupid stupid stuff getting drunk trying to take when i'm taking women's women and all this and you know that kind of stuff okay um it was just fun i was getting locked up all stupid stuff me and my but not for not for the the drug ring i didn't get locked up for the drug ring at all i didn't and um the drug ring so this is how i knew something was going on um i used to i had i started buying i was the only like my wife called me boozy i was the only boozy biker gangster you could have i had nice house nice cars and everything i wanted that was boozy i was like what the hell was boozy and she told me what boozy i said oh i guess you might have been right but she said you look back you were boozy
Starting point is 00:21:43 on one hand, but Rufus on the other hand. I guess that's a good mix because I can fit in with everybody. I'm like a chameleon. I can fit in with anybody. And I did that. I started meeting, I believe it's police,
Starting point is 00:22:01 state police, judges, lawyers. They all wanted to party. I didn't realize powder was like everybody did it. It was like, for me, for all. Yeah. I got it, but they wanted the best. They didn't want stuff that was stepped on or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But I did that, and I was enjoying life. In 2000, I think it was two in Lofin, Nevada. It was a rival gang there, the Hells Angels, and us, and the and the Hell's Angels come into our national we were having a national meeting
Starting point is 00:22:49 and stuff all the brothers from all different chapters were there and Hell's Angels come in now we got about 1,000 to 1,500 members
Starting point is 00:23:03 in this hotel I'm just saying they come in the Hell's Angels came in with 100 members and it's like you're bringing a cat to a dog fight you got a thousand members and you bring in a hundred members
Starting point is 00:23:22 we had a brawl a shootout and stabbing it was everything I got shot is this one is this on video is there like a is there like a video it was on gang land yeah yeah okay why did the hell of angels do that Like, what is the purpose to go send 100 guys in on a kamikaze mission?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Like, why, why do that? It's 100 guys against 1,500. That's just stupid. They wanted to make a statement. We were here in Lompton, and they were at another place having there. I mean, the statement would have been better served had they shown up with 2,000 men, you know, then 100. A hundred just says, hey, we're stupid. Like, that's just a bad combination.
Starting point is 00:24:03 It's not going to go out, work. It's not going to work out well for you. Nope. It isn't, but that's what happened. They sent, they didn't send a whole crew. They just sent whatever they came with. That's what they came with. They came in there, and us being who we were,
Starting point is 00:24:20 we were always strapped. Anyway, we were ready for war. But everybody that night was up in their rooms. Some were still down there playing in the casino. know and I think was to my job when we do that and the other guy's job as being people are to protect the president from getting harmed and he happened to get stabbed by one and I got shot it was so fun if you think about it the guy one of the guys were behind a um a game a slot machine or something. I think I had a 32 or something like that, and he was shooting like this.
Starting point is 00:25:08 He wasn't even looking where it was shooting. He said, okay, I'm right here, and he was stuck in point, and he was ducked behind the machine. Now, I had a vest on. This is how crazy it is it. I have my vest on. He goes like this. He hit me in the shoulder. I was like, I'm hit, I'm hit. I'm on the ground. I'm trying to grab the president. at the time because he's he's already got stabbed and everybody was there acting crazy it was so much commotion on july 18th get excited this is big for the summer's biggest adventure i think i just smurf my pants that's a little too excited sorry smurfs only did this july 18 and uh and a lot of my uncles died
Starting point is 00:26:01 those angels died it was just terrible and you know with us being who we are we had a lot of enemies too with different pieces because we did some members did some crazy things some members um like with the mexican mom and i think when they took took some crystal From them or something, or they raided the room and they messed up like $10,000 or something crazy. And they demanded us to pay it back. And that's where the war started with that because the president said, we ain't paying back. No. And that's, now we're fighting street gangs, biker clubs.
Starting point is 00:26:56 We fight, we fighting everybody now. That's how we, I think we got the name like, we are one of the ruthless, deadliest motorcycle clubs in the world because we started getting MS-13, any gang members that, and bringing them and teaching them how to ride motorcycles, teaching them the way the biker life is. So now we're taking people from clubs that are straight killers, teaching them how to ride motorcycles the center of more missions and that's how that's how it worked
Starting point is 00:27:37 for us and worked out pretty good and two I'm trying to think it was a national raid I don't know what year because I'm kind of messed up right now it was 240 members that got locked up did you know something was going did you know there was investigation no i didn't know but i knew something was funny because i'm dropping down baltimore street down baltimore and the speed limit is 30 miles an hour and i was doing like 50 and pulled plastic police and everything they didn't pull me over and nothing they hit the lights nothing i slowed down i said oh schiznick something's going down. My father, so
Starting point is 00:28:31 them knowing who my father was, you know, they, they investigated him, make sure he wasn't involved with my dealings or doings. So he stayed away from me. I was in the club for 15 years.
Starting point is 00:28:49 For 15 years, he stayed away from him. He didn't have nothing to do with me. And the funny part is I said, I sent them, I write some, I get a, go to the FedEx, UPS, I get a box, put money in it, and put a letter, hold this money for me, and send it to them, mail it to him. So I guess my father opened a box, and he put a letter there,
Starting point is 00:29:15 don't you ever effing send me this money? I don't want nothing to do with it. Take this money back and send it back to me. Like, good grace, if that would have been anybody else's fan, they were to talk it, I guess. but my father being who he was and so forth I can I give him honor for standing up for
Starting point is 00:29:34 what he believed in right um so my life it's just I try the basic of the story is if I like my mom's will tell you it's one thing about me
Starting point is 00:29:47 if I'm going to do bad I'm gonna do it 100% and be bad but I'm going to do good I'm going to do 100% and do good. It was no, I'm trying this and, no, I went balls in on each side. Either I do good, I do good, I do bad, I do bad.
Starting point is 00:30:08 It's what it is, is what it is. But I'm giving it 100%. And that's what I did. So us being, the hedge got us on all this information, and wire tabs and videos. So it was 240 members. They got locked up at the same time all over the United States, the country.
Starting point is 00:30:35 They raided everybody's house at the same time. So it wasn't like I can call. They hit my house or I heard the house getting hit and called. No, there was none of that. We didn't have time to call nobody because at the same time,
Starting point is 00:30:50 we hit each other's houses. Yeah, simultaneous. Yes. and um and i i sit there they locked me up now this is how i got locked up with tax evasion and fraud that that's what the charge was yes or just your charge wasn't everybody else's your charge okay my charge was tax evasion and fraud right which seems funny but it's this actually So after everything I have done, they just locked me up with tax evasion fraud. Yeah, but that's what they could prove, right?
Starting point is 00:31:31 You know what I'm saying? Like when it's clear cut, you know what I'm saying? Like that's what they get you for. Sometimes if it's not clear cut, like they'll send in, they're like, well, we're, this is, we're questioning this. Let's send in a couple of agents see what he says. And then you say, oh, I never do this. I didn't do this. now we got them for lying to an FBI agent.
Starting point is 00:31:48 You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, now we got it. So they've got too many tricks to not for you to get away. So it's either if they don't get you to get you a racketeering, because once they give you a racketeering charge,
Starting point is 00:32:02 that means everybody you, if I'm, and you don't even have to know nothing. And I talk to you, say, look, they're bringing you in. They throw me on the indictment. Yeah, you like,
Starting point is 00:32:13 what the heck going on? So, but like, knock on wood, when all this came down, and I was like, I'm going to jail for the rest of my life. Did they grab you at that time, or did you just hear all these guys? You're saying you got indicted, but did they, you were one of the 240 guys? Yes. Well, I mean, how did that happen? Like, they lightly knocked on your door and can you ask you to step outside?
Starting point is 00:32:38 So lightly wasn't the word. You know how they, police say, police. And I'm on the door and say, police, we have a warrant. I didn't hear no police or have a warrant, nothing. I just heard my door plow off the hinges. And then I heard all this rich police. And he says, anybody in the house come out with your hands up and all this other crazy stuff?
Starting point is 00:33:06 I'm the only one in the house. I said, I'm coming down the stairs. They said, we got any guns or weapons on you? I said, no. So I'll come down. they say, is your name such and such and says? I said, yes, sir. They put the handcuffs on me.
Starting point is 00:33:23 They pat me down, put me on the chair. So now you got the IRS, ATF, and the DEA. They all in the house, and they search it. So I had $475,000 cash in a duffel bag under my bag. Doesn't look suspicious. No, at all. No. Doesn't feel like money laundering or, or, uh, tax evasion at all.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Uh, uh, they're completely unsubstantiated allegations. And then they, and then they sit the duffel bag down and you go, I'd like to talk to my lawyer. So, so the funny part is, is, you know, I'll tell it at the end. So I'm thinking, I'm saying, I'm going to jail for the rest of my damn life. Right. So I didn't know They, you know, when the feds and all them, they come and get you You might as well put your hands behind your back
Starting point is 00:34:22 Because you're going to jail Yeah, they ain't like the state And, you know, when they get you, they got you With open hands And there ain't nothing but beg for mercy That's what I've always say is that If the state will come and arrest you And then figure out if they can put together a case
Starting point is 00:34:40 And then maybe you get bonded out maybe you sit there for six months or a year and then they when they realize we don't have much of a case here they try and get you to take a plea and then they they kick you loose or you say fuck you I'm going to prison or I'm going to trial you got a good chance of beat them right but when the fed show up they've already put together they're the last piece of the puzzle and they don't arrest you if they think we can win at trial no so they already think we put together a case we can beat this guy at trial go arrest him yep and so your negotiation you're very very little negotiation ability with the feds.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah. So now making all this money, I had, I have $475,000 cash in a double bag. I have 12 bank accounts now with $200,000 each in them under dead people's names. Doesn't look suspicious at all. That's very common. It's a common thing. Yeah. So they told me, he says, we went to Bank of America.
Starting point is 00:35:42 We showed them this photo and gave them your name. And the woman says, no, this is Mr. Jim Jones. And he said, no, his name's this, this, and this. So they had to go back and they asked how many times or how many counts I have in this. It was so messed up. Because they had to go get all this evidence from trying to find out what my names,
Starting point is 00:36:12 where whose names I was using and all this other crazy stuff so once that got all done they come back to me says like I'm just you who's Mark Henry but oh man
Starting point is 00:36:25 I said there goes that money I said they got my money they got every because when they come they come and take everything they ain't leaving you with nothing so I sat here after they did all this about the money and
Starting point is 00:36:41 I said, man, I'm going to jail for the rest of my life. I'm thinking about the stuff I already done did, like hurting people, extortion, all that stuff. I'm saying, they don't bury me. They don't dig a ditch under the jail and put me. I ain't never going to see it. When they said, we give me you tax evasion and a fraud, I'd like to jump through the ceiling. And I was happy to pick and slop. So, you know, my trial went on, and they stopped.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You went to trial? Yeah, they had me, I went to a, you know, I wouldn't call it trial, but you had to go in front of the judge anyway. Yeah, okay. For a plea and all that stuff, right? Because I couldn't beat the charge. Yeah, yeah. So I went to, I call it a trial, went front of the judge,
Starting point is 00:37:36 and they did the state's the federal state's attorney said what they said my lawyer said what they said so you took a plea what was the plea what was the PSI say the plea was I had to sign over all my possessions so I had businesses strip clubs construction company corner stores like in Baltimore if you go on a corner either a liquor store or corner a little store market. I had to sign over all that stuff. I didn't tell on nobody
Starting point is 00:38:12 or nothing like that. That's not my M.O. I took it. I took it on the chin. They said, all my boats, my cars, all my motorcycles, everything. I had cars, motorcycles, hummers, Porsche, Harleys, whatever you could name. I had
Starting point is 00:38:29 houses, rental houses. I had to sign, I said, you signed all over all this stuff. sign over the money, sign all the money that you had in the bank on the dead people's name, we give you three years. I looked at my lawyer, I said, is this for real? Because they really don't talk to you as much as a plea. Usually they're talking to your lawyer, and your lawyer's a mouthpiece.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And then you sign the paper, if you want to take it, I said, so if I take this plea, I'm only going to get three years. but you have to take the plea it was a stipulation that I can't be associated with any 1% clubs I can never join one I can't associate like be a part of them like
Starting point is 00:39:21 or anything like that they were said okay I can do that I guess if it's three years so they gave me the three gears went to jail and then I was on probation for another three years right another three years like man this is six years of that supervised release yeah I'm on so I'm that six years basically I couldn't mess up right um so I did that and you know till this day um I had to send my How I am,
Starting point is 00:40:08 I sent my some of my cuts, my stuff back to the club and that was it because most of the people I was in there they got big time, 14, 20 they stemmed it from 20 down, that's how much time people
Starting point is 00:40:26 got. Right. And man, and a lot of them brothers I became good friends with. and I can't associate with them. I can't call them. And I can't be a part of their lives like they were a part of mine because it was a brotherhood.
Starting point is 00:40:47 That brotherhood was so strong with me because I needed that. I needed to have a brotherhood that when I was like in the Marines. That brotherhood was so strong I knew my fell asleep if you sleep hot at night
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Starting point is 00:42:24 um so real quick uh where did you do your time uh they put me in first i went to um Baltimore city what is it detention center this is bottom of Baltimore city detention center then i went to bottom of city jail then i went to another place it's a holding cell until they uh what they call it uh give you a ranking and stuff like I can't think of what is that they sit there and they give you a ranking because like Oklahoma City um uh the transfer center like a transfer center yeah it's a transfer because you have to go there they give you a ranking okay if you five or higher you go into super security okay so it's like the u.s like okay so the marshals or something yeah where'd you what was
Starting point is 00:43:17 what prison were you in i went to baltimore across the street and super max because I was high-ranking official and a high-ranking so-called what the feds called us was a gang so i went there and because of the people they were like we send you here because guess what we don't know what kind of connections or what could happen da-da-da-da yeah and this jail you go in everything's underground you go on the baltimore city supermax you got you have to get on an elevator and it takes you on the ground. Everything's like that. It's no above ground.
Starting point is 00:43:59 It's like you buried inside the building. Okay. I spent time there. There, and I was locked out for 23 out of 24 hours. So I only got an hour out. It's either I could take a shower, go out to the ballpen, and get some air, or watch TV. it or use the phone oh use the phone that's the only thing you you had an hour one hour to
Starting point is 00:44:31 do any one of them things and i did that for three years and uh when i came home uh my life started back over did you get a halfway house uh no they i halfway they let me go right there in Baltimore City, go ahead, get out. After I did my time, it was no halfway house, no, nothing like that. They just put me out. Okay. And I did that. They put me out.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I was trying to get house arrest. But my lawyer said, you don't need none of that stuff. You don't do your time to the door. They're going to let you go. You don't be on probation for another three years. I said, okay. I was. What year was this?
Starting point is 00:45:22 19 19 Yeah, 19 I'm trying to think of the year. Oh, excuse me, 2000 2000, yeah, 2000, I think I got out of jail
Starting point is 00:45:40 in 2011. Okay. So, 2007. Seven, seven, eight, ten. So 2011, and then you have three years probation. Probation. So I couldn't leave Baltimore City at all. And I had a probation officer,
Starting point is 00:45:59 but that's coming to my house once a week to make sure I live there at that house. And I had to have a job. Me? I never had a job in my life. I had to find a job. And that was part of the probation. You have to have a job.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Right. I never heard of paying no damn going. You had to pay to be out of prison. I had to pay my probation officer, like $35 a month. Is it for restitution? Because there's no, because the federal system, you don't pay for probation. No, like for all this charges. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 You have like a hundred bucks per charge, per whatever. Okay, so you have to, it's the fees. Yeah, I'm paying fees. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, man, I had to pay. They pay fees. Those are court fees. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:48 You're paying like court fees. They don't call them that, but they call them something else. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, good. Grace is amacious. And I'm paying them. But the thing is,
Starting point is 00:46:57 you have to have a job. If you don't have a job, I was going back to jail. Yeah. And it had a strict. And every two months, two weeks or so, I had a probation coming to my house,
Starting point is 00:47:09 looking around the house. And I didn't realize when they come to the house, they can search a house, do whatever they want. Well, you don't have the same rights. as you do as a normal citizen. No, and I'm like, man, so I did it for three years.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I stayed clean, didn't get in trouble. I was so squeaky clean. I was tired than the fish's butt. That's how clean I was. After three years, I moved with my mom now. What was the job you got? I worked as a roofer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I worked as a roofer mechanic. After that, I was like, when they said I could leave, my thing was out left my hotel now think about this i had everything at my beck and call everything didn't want nothing need nothing now i don't have nothing when they locked me up they took everything when they took everything i'm even talking about my underwear and socks they took anything they thought i spent the illegal funds with they took it so if you look at it everything i had was with it with the illegal funds they took everything uh so i just i moved to my mom i asked my mom say can i come live with you mom
Starting point is 00:48:25 said i'm done i don't have enough she said i've been praying for you so get yourself straight and i i prayed that you didn't you you didn't go to jail for the rest of life or you didn't somebody call me and tell me you was that she said yes bring your bring the high yellow button down here i moved moved to north carolina and um that's why i started my new life um and i enjoyed it um i started working i went to um become a i wanted to become a a counselor um but i worked with the homeless people i like working with homeless people I did that That's where my job
Starting point is 00:49:14 I found the niche In 2000 22 To somewhere Like that my daughter Was My daughter My daughter
Starting point is 00:49:32 Santiana passed away She overdosed Won't fit Mm-hmm And it really hit me. Man, I was out there doing this to other people's families, not knowing. It wasn't, like, I didn't make them overdose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:56 But I'm contributing to it. And my daughter did that. And she was 22 years old, and she would have been 23 in like two, a week or too. And I had to pay for the funeral and her mother. Nobody helped me.
Starting point is 00:50:23 On her side because my I don't know if this is right to say, but she was strung out to. Right. And now she's telling me what I, now, I'm paying for this
Starting point is 00:50:38 funeral. And this woman's fighting me and tell me I can't, she said, I want a cream maker. I said, okay, whatever you like. She says, and I said, I'd like to get some of my, her ass. You know, she bought me tooth and nail. She said, I ain't doing nothing. My father, I told my father, my father said, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:50:58 She says, he said this to me, that's your daughter. Now she's been sitting in the hospital and the morgue, and you can, they can only sit there for a certain amount of time until they get ready to do whatever they want to do with the body. I said, that's your daughter? I don't care what you do. You get down there and make sure that girl gets a burial, and you do it right now.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Me being who I am, listening to my parents, respecting my parents, and loving them, I went there, I said, look, I am going to pay for everything. You don't have to pay for nothing. And that woman fought me over some daggone ashes. And guess how many... The ashes, it's a necklace. And it's big as a dog tag.
Starting point is 00:51:54 That's how big the block it was. Right. And it just ashes. She fought me with that. I looked at her. I said, I'm getting the ashes. Because if I don't take care of this, you can't. And my daughter, I have another daughter named Sylvan.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And she said, Mom, just let him have some ashes. He was paying for everything and so I do that. I pay for it, gets the asses. This woman's trying to dictate to me what I can do. She was like, I want you to buy me. I need a death certificate from, like, if you want a death certificate. Now, I never had to bury nobody or cremating. I didn't know everything you do, you had to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:52:39 If you need a death certificate, it's like 20 or 30 bucks. Like, if you want one, you buy it. I'm buying one for me. I'm buying one for my parents. That's it. If you want, I cut her off. I haven't talked to that woman personally. Like, for eight years.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I have nothing, don't want nothing to do to her. I used to go get in trouble all the time with her. She used to get me locked up. And I ain't did nothing. Say I beat it up and all this out. I was taught never to hit a woman. But this woman was hell on wheels with me. But I became a drug and alcohol cancel.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I said, if I did like this, I told myself, if I can't beat them, I'm going to join them. But I'm going to join them in the right way. I'm going to try to help them because I already realized I was a gangster for the devil. When the devil needed me, I was there. I was doing anything and everything
Starting point is 00:53:50 and not realizing I was condemning myself. Now I'm a gangster for the Lord. I try to help people that want to help themselves. Whatever, I have a zero judgment zone. I judge no one. Your past is your past. because I can't collaborate or say anything about your past. Because if you look at me, I probably had one of the worst passes ever.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I have a tattoo. I have a grim reaper on my back. It says, Reaper from shoulder to shoulder, and it's a grim reaper, and he has a cloak. And I got skulls and a cloak. So that tells you how much I was really into this and doing loving what I was doing. where are you are you the draw you currently working as a drug treatment counselor yes
Starting point is 00:54:47 believe or not I'm an ordained minister now I have my we have my own ministry called freedom connection ministry we help veterans and civilians with drugs PTSD anger management anything of in that range I have, I have done it. I've been involved in it. So I'm speaking with experience and helping people with experience because I've been involved in it.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I've done it. I've been a part of it. So what I'm teaching is what I know and what I've learned and all that stuff. So I'm not BS and nobody. I know what it is. My life changed tremendously. um i accepted a lord in my life i you know in these programs they say if you can't go to the person
Starting point is 00:55:48 you hurt because it might cause whatever you you should just ask for forgiveness go to god the lord and ask for forgiveness and that's what i did because i didn't i couldn't go back to people's families and say i'm sorry i did such and such to your right so and um i thought being a catholic was the way out for a catholic being because if you do something you pray say a couple hell marries give some money go about your merry way go do it again paying that ain't how it works either because you should know better i should know better if you keep on doing the same thing over and over again you're going to get the same result
Starting point is 00:56:37 and I became a Christian and like I said in 2011 became an ordained minister but I fell I do I did okay I did forget this in 2011 I was depressed so I had $10,000 and I never smoked rock before as my uncle which he was a he was a he's He's a connoisseur of that. He said, yeah, this is take away all this and this. Like, yeah. I had $10,000. God's on the truth.
Starting point is 00:57:17 $10,000. So I said, Uncle, we're going to spend all this. We're going to have a party. Spend it all. I said to myself, there's two things that will either happen. I'm even going to die, but I'm going to a rehab after this. And, boy, I spent a whole week in a whole week.
Starting point is 00:57:37 From Monday to Saturday, Sunday, I was smoking up. And now I have other people partying with me. It wasn't like I did it all by myself. But I was partying, doing Pete and everybody else. The first time you smoke that stuff is the highest you can ever get. You can't get no higher than that. After that, it's over. And it's called chasing the dragon's tail.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Right. Because you smoke in the first time, and that's it. You keep on. And they said, that's a poor man's high. I said, that's a rich man high because, boy, you can go broke in a couple of hours with that. I smoked $10,000. I went to my mom's. I said, Mom, I had to tell you something.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I had to go to rehab. She said, why? I said, I spent $10,000 on rock. She said, huh? She said, you should have at least gave me $5,000 and did the other five and then come and told me. I said, look at her. I don't be done lost your mind. You're crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:40 She was making a joke. I went to rehab and got myself together. That's when I started going back to college. I went back to college in North Carolina. And I got my associate's degree, drug and alcohol canceling. And then my daughter passes away. and I was like telling my wife now I have which is a loving, caring, the best woman ever
Starting point is 00:59:11 because I never loved nobody. I was never in love with anybody. And I hated everybody even myself. So to hate yourself and don't care about no, that makes your job much easier. Right. You could do anything then. Because you don't care about their feelings,
Starting point is 00:59:33 what they feel, beg you they beg you for mercy you know oh your history um it just I look back I had a great time with brothers the party the drugs all that stuff now I look where I'm at all that stuff millions of dollars getting taken away from me now I have a nice house and I've never been in love I got a woman that loves me more than anything in the world and she's a Christian lady she loves me more than anything and my daughter passed away like I said and I told God I said God if I could ever be a father to somebody that needs a real father I would be it 100%. So when I met my wife she has a daughter
Starting point is 01:00:34 She was 12. And the thing about it, her father, her father disowned her. So my daughter, which is 14, never had a father a day in her life. I'm the only father figure that girl knows. And that's my partner. We do everything. I teach everything. I have a long business.
Starting point is 01:00:58 And she helps me cut grads. I'm showing how to ride a zero. turn and how to walk behind a bush hog and how to cut grant that's my partner we do a lot um i just it's awesome because god always has a plan you might not see the plan until it starts coming out in the open and it came out i realized that he allowed me to go through all these trials and tribulations. It allowed me to go through this storm that lasted for a while. But when I came out the storm, I was blessed. I received knowledge, wisdom, and understanding about everything I've done, I've seen, and I put it to work to help people that need it.
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