Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - America's Great Divide (& How To Fix It)

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

America's Great Divide (& How To Fix It)

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discussion about it that was perfectly 100% polite. And that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Now it's like literally you could hang out with someone for however long of a period of time, have a great conversation, think they're a great person. And the moment you find out that that person is a Republican, you don't want to talk to him anymore. Like there's no middle of the road. Like those, it's insane how things have gotten. And I think males are being driven to the right because of the values that are being forced on them by the left and how there's just this massive divide in the country. And then just recently, another guy, he's what he's, this is an older guy.

He's 58 years old. He basically was like a, or is a Republican, but he differs from Trump's point of view on Ukraine. Just recently from what I understand. Like, that dude's a maga guy. He went from, from what I understand. He went from, I don't think he, I think he skipped over the Republican. You say like all Republicans are MAGA?

No, most, most Republicans are not MAGA. I'm a Republican. Okay. And what do you think of as a MAGA? The people who are like 100% all in on Trump. Trump can do no wrong. Those people, whenever I had conversations with guys, and they're like, you know, Trump, 24,

Trump, this, Trump, that. Tell me three things that you don't like about Donald Trump or the Trump administration. And if they can't do it, you're MAGA. You're not a Republican. Right. Right. So don't sit here and tell me to vote for someone.

and you have no idea what this guy is about. Most of these dudes, you give them facts about Trump. I had some woman telling me about Trump's naval service. He wasn't in the Navy. No shit, it's a draft dodger. So it was like, what? And when I tried to explain to it, she got mad. So I was like, all right, that's when I learned.

I don't talk to people about that. But there's a distinct difference between MAGA and Republican Party. And Republican Party, I was talking to some heavy hit of Republicans, not too long ago. And I'm like, hey, the republicans has got a problem. And the guy interrupted me, you say, yeah, what to do after Trump? Because they don't know, they don't have a plan. They don't know what to do. Their party is like ruptured, right?

It's fractured. Right. So MAGA is not Republican. MAGA is 100% Donald Trump. I would say 25, maybe 30% of the people over there are like the hardcore MAGA people. The rest of Republicans. And I'm here to tell you. Like, again, you know, I'm red pill on earth.

thing. My true, the true code on that, true Republicans, GOP guys, can't stand Trump. Look at, look at the Bushes, right? Look at the Cheney's, right? There's a lot of hardcore Republicans are like, look at Kemp, Governor Kemp in Georgia. He's pinching his nose and doing everything he can trying to work with Trump. And they were having, you know, still having trouble because Trump does what Trump does. The hardcore Republican guys are like, man, this dude is a problem, but they want the White House if they can get it. He's the guy. So Republicans are always getting lined, whereas Democrats do Democrat stuff.

They do some dumb shit. Look how hard it was to get biting to get out the way, right? Only to give rise to Kamala Harris, who is not the one. But she's, you know, it's got a shot at winning this thing, but it's too close to call. Yeah, she did well in the debate, right? She did well in the debate. Well, Trump did horrible in the debate. I was going to say she, at the very least, was not the cackling, babbling idiot that you would think she was going to be.

Instead, she did better, in part because Trump did badly, but in part because she was prepared. She had a game plan. Yeah, she had a game plan. Trump did. Trump, like, there were multiple questions where it could have, you could, you just have to, it was a very simple answer. Very simple answer. Instead, you rambled and, you know, I think partially is that one, his age and two, he's doing these, he's doing his, his whole campaign. tour is him getting up there and just babbling for an hour and everybody thinks he's wonderful.

That's what he got him in. Right. So I just think he's doing it. He's doing his greatest hits and it's just a lot of people are over it. I don't see. I'm shocked to hear that there are some Republicans out there who are actually going to vote for and are backing Kamala Harris. That shows you how crazy things have gotten over there.

Republicans don't normally do that. The best you can do with a Republican is just they won't come out and vote or they just won't vote top of the ticket and they'll vote. vote down the ticket. You know, most Republicans really believe in our process for them to say, no, I'm not going to vote. It's crazy. Or just I'm going to vote for the dims? That, that, you don't see that a lot. Well, you're not, I think you're thinking clearly. Well, first of all, I don't think anybody's thinking clearly because the fact is, is that you've got a whole group of people that think, well, that Trump is somehow or another going to correct the problems that the country is

currently in. Right. And the truth is, is that if that's what you believe, you're delusional. Like, you understand that there, the, that the national debt is absolutely out of hand. Like, there are so many things, you know, unemployment is rising. You know, we spend. Wages are stagnant. Yeah. Inflation. Everything. You know, the, the housing, uh, the housing market is slowly collapsing. Like, there are so many things that we're on the verge of a just complete, maybe not a complete collapse, but a hell of a collapse. Oh, you said a reset. We're headed for a reset.

Yeah, yeah. We're headed for a reset. Like, and that's a problem. And now, my thought process is that the person that is best or the party that is best equipped to handle that is the Republican Party because they are conservative on their policies. My thought is that Kamala and the Democrats will make some drastic changes that may make the situation worse. So my

They probably will Right so the so but here's the problem Neither party is going to fix it It's really like hey the building's coming down Do we want to bring it straight down Or do we want to have it Curve slightly to the left And maybe take out that building beside it

But nobody is going to fly up there like Superman And keep the building suspended It's coming down The pillars have blown It's how do we strategically bring this fucker down with the least amount of damage to who makes up this country, which is its citizens. That's the fact.

And what's going on now with politics, just imagine if Jeff Bush were running top of to take it on the Republican side right now. I don't think the Democrats will be within 20 points. I think he would be up 20, 25, 30 points right now. I think a lot of people would vote, to your point, Republicans tend to do better in these type situations. But it's not the Republican Party right now, is it? It's MAGA. Right. And that's

you see what I'm saying. Yeah, I understand. How much did Trump spin? Rudyard talked about this. He's like inside the Republican Party, it's fractured. There's like five different groups. Yes. Same with the same. The Dems have always been fractured. Right. So, so you look at that and it's like, man,

people are like, well, who would you like to see? I'm like, I would have loved to give Andrew Yang a shot. We're going to just pick a guy. We pick a guy who knows numbers and maybe could come out and say, Yeah, we're in trouble. This is the best way to handle this. What about Vavec? Vivek is too much of a...

What's the best way to put this? I don't trust Vavec to tell the truth. Really? Really? Really trust anybody else. I liked Vec. I liked him. He is a...

He's like a YouTube president. He's the YouTube nominee. Like, he's the guy. I'm going to say whatever I got to say to make shit. to get you to look at me and click on me. He had a good run. Now that he's out of the picture, he's talking since again. But it's like, all right, do you believe this wild shit you said over here?

Or do you really believe what you're saying now? Right. And even with the fact, we don't talk about race. The stuff that he had to endure from MAGA when he was running, there's something they were saying about him, the stuff that J.D. Vance's wife is having to endure right now with the wild shit that's coming out of the mega side of the Republican Party. And it's like, I don't know what any of this is.

Oh, yeah, I can show you when this is, I can show you when this is over. But I think that, you know, what's bad about that whole thing is that there was a time when these guys were, when you were in politics and you were still gentlemen, Trump changed that. Yeah, Trump said, like with the moment you said Jeb Bush, my first thought was, do you know what the first thought I thought was? Low energy, Jeb Bush. Because that's what, because. Give me a low energy guy to save the country, bro. Because Trump tagged him as being, the guy's low energy. And as soon as he said, look, because Jeb Bush is not an excitable person.

He is not a, he's not a, he's not, he's not energetic. He's not, he is low energy. But when he tagged him with that, I can't think of Jeff Bush now without thinking low energy. And that's the worst. Like to me, and I've had these talks with people, it was like, to me, the moment Trump was going to run, like as a Republican, like when, when DeSantis ran, I thought, oh, that's a mistake. And I remember, people were like, oh, DeSantis, he's going to win. He's going to win. No, I would not go up against Trump.

You know why? Because Trump is going to throw so many verbal bombs at you. Something will stick and it will ruin your career. I'll just wait till you go and you can't run anymore. He's young. Descentes is young. DeSancis was stupid. He could have waited 20 years.

He'd still be one of the youngest presidents ever. He could wait. He's not a smart guy. And DeSantis ain't cut out for. that level. I mean, look at what's going on in Florida. Like, the condo is great. Man, look at the condo, the insurance problem and then the condo market

right now, that's all under, it's, it's not DeSanta's fault with this insurance thing. He inherited that. It's always been an issue. But it's happening on his watch. And then you got this condo thing. Like the condo market is almost it's like it's eviscerated right now. It's like the perfect storm was kind of brewing.

Meanwhile, DeSantis was trying to run for president when he really should have been focused on Florida to your point earlier. He's young. Make sure Florida's good. Leave Trump alone. And then, you know, you're looking down the road. You know what I mean? 20, 28. You know what I mean? 32, whatever. He could be a senator. Listen, you could slide right into that you could be a senator for a few years, get to know how Washington works. You could, then you could become president. You could, I mean, there's a tons of things that he could have done. He could. Yeah, he screwed himself.

He screwed himself. And I mean, he just has a terrible personality. His wife now, his wife could run. Right. She's great personalities. She seems very smart. She could run. But I don't think you wouldn't consider them Maga, right? They're just Republicans. I just think they're just Republicans.

They're just Republicans. I don't even think that DeSantis likes Trump. No, they don't, especially now. And then he had his elevator boots on. Did you see that? Oh, Colman, Cholving, you saw that. They were saying that DeSanta's boots were elevator boots. He's not really as tall as you say they'd like, there was like a big thing about that.

Bro. Bro. Like I was just like he got this I'm borderline I'm getting some So you don't need none man You know I know but I hear you I'm this clip And you know what's funny is people in the comment section

And we'll send emails to me With with with like TikTok links and stuff And links to like you know You can buy these shoes right here They're only this much They give you three inches like Sneakers and everything and I'm just like Well that's going back to that red pill stuff

I've seen guys in the metals where they talk about that Because they're like well women like tall and men so you got to get taller. You know, there's a procedure to get taller. Of course I know. But, bro, that's torture. They break your legs and put those rods in your legs and then they stretch you.

Anyway, there's dudes talking about the shoes. There are guys like, yeah, get the shoes. Some guys are like, yeah, you'd be surprised those couple inches or whatever. It makes a difference when you're out here trying to source women. I tell guys don't do that. If I'm you, if someone's going to send you money to wear their product, you know, to wear their shoes, then I would say, okay, I ain't mad at you for that. They should.

But if you're buying it yourself, don't do it. You don't need to, bro. I don't need to. You a G. You never need it to. You a G. You never need it to. You don't need that shit, bro. But so what's going on politically right now in America is crazy. You're right.

It used to be that Republicans and Democrats could go to the bar. They would go to barbecues together. They play softball and all that. They work together. But now families are ripped over it. The mega stuff especially, families are like ripped apart over it. And now America is at a point where people are talking about, oh, it's going to be a civil war. Right.

No, it's not. People. No. No bad America. No. What do you think is going to happen then? Here's the thing. I don't think there's going to be a woodwork trying to go from.

Trump. That's all it is. And those are weirdos. Those are mega weirdos coming out of the woodwork trying to shoot this dude. They're weirdos in general and people from the far right trying to end this dude. How do you get to that point? How do you get to the point where you think the best way to solve this problem? is to take a rifle or not even right well but this guy had that guy I think had an AK

yeah an AK with scope on it yeah they keep calling an AK style but I don't know somebody else now they're just saying it's like it's like they'll say AR platform AK style whatever whatever so he's got an AK he's got with a scope with a school here's the thing too he has an AK he's also got like a backpack and it looked like a some kind of a it looked like two backpacks right one's a backpack and one looked like a almost like a um like a laptop case that you could maybe throw over your head. So you have a front and a back. And he had a ceramic tile in it, which, of course, would stop a bullet.

So theoretically, whatever, you could. I'm not saying everything. I don't know that it's going to stop an AK-47, but it's probably going to stop a 9-millimeter from a hand being at 400 yards. So the point is is that he's like, so he's thinking he may survive this. That's what's killing me. You're not surviving this. And early reports said he had a GoPro.

Oh, yeah, he did it, yeah. He's got a GoPro. So he's going to put it on YouTube. Weirdo. Weirdo, guy. 100% weirdo dude. We understand that. A fringe guy, you know, and here's the thing too.

But his neighbors are all saying, he's like, he was a nice guy. He seemed like a nice guy. How well do you really know your neighbors these days? People don't get together like they used to, right? And his neighbors from where? Hawaii or his neighbors from North Carolina? Because you see his rap sheet? That's a huge leap.

You see his rap sheet? Yeah, but it's all for like traffic. Listen, here's the thing. I was going to ask you about that, bro. If you can't keep your driver, so here's the thing, like people, oh, it's just driving. Listen, stop, stop. If you can't keep your insurance and your license up, okay, the bare minimum of being a functioning citizen of the United States. I'm not saying you have, you know, health insurance and a home and you're on your own home.

And I'm talking about the bare minimum is a vehicle, your license, and insurance. If you can't keep those things up. You're just not a functioning human being. Agreed. Like, this guy's not. He's a weirdo. Yeah. He's a weirdo.

They say he has a child. I'm curious. I wonder if that's his biological child. Did you hear what the kid said about him? Mm-mm. He said, my dad's the, he said, he's a nice guy. He said, he said he's a nice guy. He's not violent.

He said, as far as I know, he's never had anything more than a couple traffic tickets. And he said, he goes, he hates Trump, but he says, so does every reasonable person out there. So I was like He's been arrested for what multiple He's also been arrested for um There's something to do with a assault weapon He had a fully automatic assault weapon Yeah full auto and then he has

An illegal concealed weapon or something like that He got arrested for it they were saying a bunch of And he's barricaded himself inside of his work How did he not get any time for any of this For that stuff? How did he not get any time? I don't know what states were these North Carolina.

It's North Carolina. Yeah, he'd still be doing time in Florida. North Carolina, the full auto thing, that's a fair case, ain't it? You would think that, though, it's what I've come to realize is the feds tend to pick up the ones where if you've had a federal charge and you get caught with a gun, they pick it up. But if you've only been state and you have a state felony and you get caught with a weapon, sometimes that will go state and not federal. They just leave it in there.

You're right. But here's the problem is that I don't think he was a felon. He just had a concealed weapon. So he wasn't a felon. And he didn't have the license for the... So some of these are just like you don't have the proper licensing. Oh, you don't have the paperwork for it. You can have it, but you don't have the paperwork for it.

Like maybe you get charged with a fine or you can't do that. It's a misdemeanor for the first time. Like that kind of stupid stuff. So who knows? Man, but so... But he's on the fringes. He's a weird old. Yeah, he's on the fringes.

Both parties are controlled by the fringes right now. Right. The liberals are controlled by the fringes. The Republicans are controlled by their fringes. And it's ridiculous. Think about it. The average American isn't on all this craziness and all this nonsense. The average American wants to know what are you going to do about inflation?

When they're going to get gas prices down. Right. How come, you know, how come groceries cost so much? Why is it that mommy got, you know, mommy and my auntie and all them got it laid off? The average American wants real answers. What's going on at the border? What's going on in Ukraine? What's going on in Gaza?

That's what the average American wants to know. The fringes, who gets all the clicks, right? That's all we see is the craziness. Yeah. And then you got AI's feeding you all this stuff and it's just reinforcing you're crazy, right? So this dude, right, who is. That's why nobody's watching my channel. Bro, no one's watching my channel.

He don't feel bad. But the thing is, you're not crazy enough. You need to do some more wow. But this guy, you look at his background, Maga, Trump, or I don't like Trump because of Ukraine. allegedly he tried to join the Foreign Legion to fight in Ukraine they wouldn't take him like dude's too crazy for us the Ukrainians got criminals in the streets fighting off the Russians

they're like now we don't want you bro stay over there that's insane because you think they'd just use them as cannon fodder you would think like just put him in the trenches yeah put him in the trenches bro like give him his AK send him out there he'll be fine he's got his own weapons got his own weapons bro full auto see him out there yeah if he's got to pay for the ticket over here they wouldn't take him

so you got this guy goes out to do this tries to do this horrible thing very stupid plan you know thank goodness the Secret Service was on their game I mean you're saying stupid plan but if that Secret Service agent hadn't

been walking a couple holes ahead and hadn't seen them that stupid plan may have worked he wasn't going to be that far away from Trump with an AK here's the thing even with I guarantee you that weapon wasn't zero to that scope

guaranteed that he was going to be looking at at least 200 yards or more with an AK that he thought probably wasn't zero. This guy doesn't, he doesn't strike me as the type that would take the time and actually zeroed his weapon. So you feel comfortable with me firing an AK-47 at you from 200 yards? I'm still not okay with it. Yeah. I feel like that's still

a bad idea. I'm okay with you doing. I'm not okay with it with you shouldn't be okay with me firing my M-14 at 500 yards. at you. You know what I mean? Because I can reach out and touch you. I got skill. But the average American with an AK, I don't want to get shit bad, but I'd rather get shit by that guy than than someone knows what he's doing. Patrick Bear David talked to the Reaper. What's that guy? Nicholas? I'm a black guy, former Ranger sniper. Okay. This dude has a crazy amount of confirmed kills. And they were talking about how everyone is saying this is a conspiracy.

They, whoever they are, want Trump. and my argument to that is if that were the case Trump would be dead that guy on that roof if he had a scope on that rifle he would hit him he had a red dot he had a modified site on there

if he had a scope or just playing on iron sights he probably would have hit him he fired eight to ten rounds and he scored a hit he did hit him but just not and if it weren't for luck he would have

so you're right taken to the side of the back of right head So you're telling me that if that was a hit, there was only one team, bro. There would have been at least three teams there. No, I think he was a lone wolf. Just some weirdo lone wolf. We think that. But the rest, so many people like, oh, you know.

I know. But, you know, you can't. These people are so fucking nuts, bro. But they don't think. They think everything is conspiracy. This is, I'm not saying the kid wasn't, he wasn't influenced by the media. He wasn't influenced by all of these things. Not just media.

AI-driven media. Right. Yeah, yeah. There's an agenda that's being pushed on him and thousands of other people just like him. But the point is that, you know,

I don't think it was a conspiracy. I don't think there was a second on the, you know, on the water tower and this and that, like that. Because if there was, then Trump's be dead. He wouldn't have survived.

Right. And the same thing here. If this guy knew what he was doing, I'm not going to sit here on this podcast and tell you how to do it. Just understand. There's a way to do. do it. I think personally, had the agent not seen him, I think at the very least, it may have been a repeat. He may have, maybe he would have struck him. Maybe he would have missed. But the fact is, I think he would have had him in his sights and unloaded, whether he would have hit him or not. Well, we don't know that. But I'm saying he would have been close enough to fire at him. And that's frightening. And the other thing is, look, like, you know, an AK, a 7.62 round?

You don't want to get hit by a 7.6. You don't want to... 7.6 to tear you up. But here's the thing. I don't think that guy had the set. I don't think he took the time. You can zero... He did have the gun.

I mean, it's America. Anyone get that, bro. I can get me... He had the gun and he got close. I wouldn't even know how to get close to Trump. Like, I think he was in a bad... I think he was in a good... He was in a position to get...

Like, that's pretty amazing to me. Trump needs to come off these golf courses, and Trump needs to come off of his golf courses. Yeah, he needs to come off of his golf courses. he's to stop thinking he's in. That's one of the things that people point to Trump because he likes to, he makes money whenever he goes to play golf.

He's like, that's why he plays so much golf because he gets charged to government for all his stuff because he's on his course and he's got to pay for all his extra stuff. So, all right, cool, you're making your money.

Nice. Play golf on somebody else's golf course, bro. Because if people know you play golf a lot and you're going to play it on one of these three or five golf courses, all they got to do is wait for you. Right.

Like this dude. But you know, It was funny is, did you see the press conference where the, well, I think it was the chief of police where he was saying, well, it might have been the Secret Service or the FBI, whatever. It's one of these guys that was doing the press conference where he was like, listen, he's like, the entire area is surrounded by shrubs. We do not have the manpower. He's like, it's, you know, he was just saying, like, he all but said, like, it's the perfect spot to, like, there's coverage. There's a significant amount of coverage. And we don't have the manpower because he's not president.

So we only have so many people, so much money. He's like, it's a hard spot to cover. So I was thinking to myself, he's practically saying, like, anybody else that's interested, that's where you need to go. Well, that's why I'm not even going to mention the steps. If this dude was a serious shooter and this dude knew anything about hunting people, he would have got some rounds off. And even if he missed, you wouldn't have known.

I mean, just one of those kind, he could have got some rounds off and got out of it. The guy, they said, like, you could see the barrel. like you don't get right up to the window you stay back farther from the window you know what I'm saying like you don't hang out the window with your gun you stay way back you get somebody a weapon rifle and say I want you to shoot at that target that's you know 200 300 yards away they're going to push that rifle as close to that target as they possibly can right so because they're not trained they don't think right Americans America doesn't think anymore and that's another big problem with this country so I know we wanted to talk about the Civil War thing like This guy, right, the other weird odor was shooting. These guys, people see that like, C-C is going to be a civil war. It's not going to be a civil war. Like, who are the factions?

Where are the battle lines? Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Nissan. Buy your tickets now. I get a free Tilly Dog.

Chilly Dog, not included. The Naked God. Tickets on sale now. August 1. I was like, what a merit. is willing to walk outside and pop their neighbor across the street like right in a face Americans the average American ain't going to do that now could there be a revolution yes I can see that but it doesn't have to be a revolution it may or may but I can definitely

see a financial uh revolution here I can you know we don't have a middle class anymore let's just keep it 100 America does not either you have it today or you don't there is no middle class anymore bro you know better than I do man like you remember you remember you remember you can have yourself, what, $60,000 house, you have two kids, work at the factory, wife stays at home. That's not happening. Yeah, both parties have to work. Both parents are working now to try and raise a couple kids, and they're barely getting by. Like, most people do not have the savings to survive, you know, being laid off for even a month or two.

Bro, most Americans can't afford unexpected cost of $500. Right. That's most Americans. That's nuts. That's nuts. That's nuts. As opposed to $60,000 back in the 80s. You ain't got to go that for in the 90s. You know, in Cincinnati with some houses like that.

Whenever I tell people like, oh, yeah, we used to buy houses for fixer uppers for 50,000, they'd like, 50,000. Was there even a house there? Like, what do you talk? Like, no, this was a house where somebody could, they could basically live in the house. It just was a shithole. But you could really, it was functioning. Like everything worked. A small fixer uppers just get in there and fix one room.

the time. That's what people used to do. Yeah, you could buy a $100,000, a three-bedroom, two-bath, concrete block for $100,000 that needed work. Like, you're not buying a lot for $100,000. Like, bro, so I don't believe there's going to be a Silver War. Whenever I think Civil War, I'm thinking, okay, what factions? Who's fighting who? Did you see the movie?

No, I'm not going to see that movie. It's a silly-ass movie. I'm not going to see that. It was a good movie. No, the premise is bad. The premise is, there is no premise, by the way. There's no, there, you don't know who's, like, left. and who's right.

It's just like... Just a bunch of people fighting for what? You don't even know? And they eventually... It is great when they go into Washington. It's worth watching those... They spent the budget on the last 15 minutes. The last 15 minutes of that movie is pretty good.

Yeah. It's great to see some... How long is the movie? Like two hours? No, it's like an hour and a half. But it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Man, I'm going to watch this movie, bro.

I swear to you, Matt, I swear to you, bro. Listen, the nice thing is that when you watch it, you're like, is that supposed to be Trump? No. is that supposed to be the no so they don't really pick a side you're not really even sure even even when the fighting's going on you're really not sure like are these are people in control or is this a U.S. military like interesting it was it's still interesting to watch I would have preferred had they really taken aside had they really said hey let's say that the the Democrats are in charge of

the country and there's and the Republicans you know a bunch of states get together and then they actually have, like, with their, their, the National Guards in those states get together. Like, I would have liked to have seen a realistic rift in a battle. That would have been better. Instead, I spent half the movie going, are they supposed to be the? And it wasn't until later that I read some reviews and watched a YouTube thing where the guy talked about how the director had said, I specifically didn't make any one side Republican or a Democrat and the two states that are succeeding from the Union and attacking.

Right, which would never see. Right. Which was great because once again, you don't know. Right. What is this? Why are they, you know? Anyway, it was, it was, if you look at it like that, it was, it was interesting. I would say this.

Like, but even to my point, at least in that movie, there were factions. You didn't know quite who, but there were factions. They were factions. There are no factions. I mean, when you had your guy on here and he was talking about the military, and he was talking about how the military is more conservative. That's not true, right? And this is coming from a vet.

That's not true. So when you look at and think about it, who makes up the military? You know, most conservatives comes from like the, they come from the suburbs and, you know, they're great neighborhoods. They have great education. Bro, I ain't come from there. Like most people in the most of the military. isn't most of an African-American and Hispanic?

Well, it's a good chunk. I mean, it's even. I think it's pretty much even, but lower income, when you think of the class war, right? The upper classes are going to be those guys who go to college and they become officers, which is the minority, the vast majority of the others are the guys who don't have money. Right.

Right? And they tend to skew liberal, at least growing up. They grew up liberal. So they're in there and now, they're training. They're doing their thing. I remember when the OJ thing happened. and the L.A. riots broke out. I was in the Army.

And we were on a, we were in the field. We were doing some training. They brought us out the field. And they were like, you know, you guys on alert. We were a paratroopers. So they were like getting the airborne guys. They were telling us we were going on. And we didn't know.

We were like, we didn't know what was going on. Like, there ain't no real hotspots going on right now. What the, I wonder what's going on. They were considering dropping the 82nd Airborne division into California, into L.A. during the riots. And the Pentagon was like, absolutely not. We're not going to, no. We're not going to drop, drop federal troops, drop paratroopers in the L.A.

Have you lost your mind? That's going to be ugly. Yeah, I was going to say, you're not, you're not police officers. You're not trained to. Like, it's, you know, when you give a hammer to someone, you know, everything starts to look like a nail, right? And that's it, bro. They would have calmed. They would have stopped the writing.

Oh, it would have been over. But it would have been a bloodbash. It had been ugly. So, no, that's not going to happen. The military is, like, your man, your man pointed this out. Those of us who do serve, it's all about the Constitution, man. Like, when we take that oath, you know what I mean? It's important to defend the Constitution.

We understand that. That's what we do. It's going to be hard to get American soldiers to fight Americans. It's just going to be hard to do it. If you, it won't be so hard to fight guys who have disavowed the country and they're just, they're hurting us. We'll go after them. But that's what the cops are for, right?

And then if the cops can't handle, that's what the National Guard is for. But you don't want to use federal troops. So a lot of people say, oh, a military. is pro-Trump. No. They're predominantly conservative. They might even be conservative, but they are pro-constitution. And he was right about that.

When I was, I was like, yeah, he's right about that. Like, we're soldiers are all about the Constitution. The officers are about the Constitution. No one is going to take an illegal order and do some shit just because that president or that senator or that person wants to do that, I ain't doing that shit. So, so, okay, fine. Military is sitting out of it. So who's going to fight?

So I'm like, now, I don't see. A Civil War. I don't, and most people, when I hear Civil War, it's like, are we talking a race war? And what are we talking about here? Who's going to fight with who? This is, here's one of the top comments from the Civil War videos. They said, a Civil War is you versus me, but they're thinking this could be more so a revolutionary war.

We the people versus the establishment. That part right there. That's it. I can see a revolution, not a Civil War. And I can see that being alone, you know, that have. and have-nots. I can see that. Now, would that be violent?

Would that be a shooting thing? It could be, hey, we're all not going to work. We're all going to sit down. Remember, Occupy Wall Street? It could be something like that on a, you know, massive scale. Where, you know, look at, like, right now UPS is threatening to go on strike. And I guess management UPS is like, go. Like, you know what I mean?

You look at how there's just been this massive assault on unions. You know, union got myself, massive assault on unions. Right. And then think about that. As the unions have gone away, men have gone more to the right. Remember? Because when we were coming up, all the factories and stuff like that, union shops, they all voted Democrat. They were all liberal. Now the unions are gone. You know, the home is being destroyed.

There's no more nuclear family. Guys are going conservative because they're like, we got to do something. And no one's listening to them. So I can see a revolution. I can absolutely see that some sort of. Revote maybe or some sort of, you know, thing where people are like, no one can pay their car note, right? The average car note is around, what, $800, I think, today. The average rent is about $2,000 a month here in Tampa.

What's the average house note today? About $3,000? Probably. $3,000 up there. Probably close to rent or higher than it. It's actually funny because it's actually, when I was growing up, the average mortgage was about 20% less than rent. Right. Now it's about 20% more. Right.

And that's not. That makes no sense. That math don't math, right? So Americans are upset. Americans are frustrated. Americans have never worked harder than they work today. When you look at Americans back in the 70s, you know, my mom and dad didn't work hard. But they didn't have two and I have jobs.

Yeah. It was overtime was working hard. Now you got to have two jobs in the side hustle. And that's not enough. You're still going to get your car repossess. You still might get kicked out your apartment. I see families coming together to live. in homes. Americans are frustrated.

They're like, bro, and they're seeing the code. And then you throw into that, everyone's looking at their Instagram feed. You got these rich people, almost cursed. You got these rich people on their private jets and their Bugatti's and stuff like that, getting all his bread, even though it's fake, but they're looking at it like. Yeah, yeah. It's still, disheartening. Like, what am I doing wrong? Right. I can't even pay for my phone. You know, so I think that we're headed to that, you know, and I think we're going to get there over the next four years. I think whoever win this election, to your point, doesn't matter. Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. The next four years are going to be really hard for America,

really hard for Americans. This shit ain't getting easier. We, you know, so. Listen, in some ways, it might be good for the Republican Party if they don't win. It'll be great for the Republican Party if they don't win. Because then during that for the next four years, everybody's going to blame the establishment. Doesn't matter who. Then it's no matter. It's like, my God, you voted this woman into power. And she is destroy this country. The truth is, it didn't really matter who was there. It's going off the cliff. Same thing for Donald Trump. If Trump gets in office, they're like, he's going to save everything. No, he's not. He doesn't even have a plan. And that's the thing. We're not even talking about,

okay, does Kamala Harris and Donald Trump even understand what they're facing? I'm not sure that they do. Right. I'm not sure. And we don't know and we won't know because they can't have a regular debate when we can talk about the issues. They won't talk about nothing. So Americans are in the dark and who is going to pay who's going to suffer the most those people at the bottom and those people at the bottom it's already happening bro they're already giving up like you know what's funny is at a friend mentioned this the other day it was sent me like I think he sent me a something on on social security you know becoming insolvent in however many years it is 10 years 15 years or something like that basically when I retire um and and he's you know and he's basically saying like

you know, like, it's basically, it's gone at that point. And he's like, he's like, everybody keeps talking about social security running out. And they go, you never, you ever notice that nobody ever talks about welfare running out? Like, it doesn't make sense to me. Like, you're telling me that the people that have been paying into social security for 40 or 50 years are got, they're going to tell them that you don't get your social security. But if you've been on welfare for 40 years, they're just going to keep cutting you a check. They're going to tell you, you get away to your 75 and all the welfare of people going to keep getting that money. No, that is going to be the revolt.

I think you're going to have a revolution. And you're going to have folks, again, I don't know how it's going to look. I don't think it's going to be violent, at least not, you know, not like the French Revolution violent. They're going to, guillotine's ain't coming out. But people are going to. French know how to do it. French do it right. Boy, they do it right.

But I think that I think people are going to finally. start thinking because they're not going to have any choice when you're kicked out of your apartment everyone's credited shit um like the housing market it's going to burst right not burst it's going to correct right the you know who's making money right now how's the wall street is just killing it wall street's killing it right now bro like damn how well the market's down but they're still made yeah yeah it's still killing it's not it didn't do this it's just correcting down um and then people are with this technology people are seeing the lies in in 1080p You know, when the numbers come out, oh, we had this many jobs in August.

So we had this many jobs. And then the revisions come out. And then all those jobs, all those games were revised away. And people like, wait, those numbers, we were told these numbers. Like, no, no, no, that was an estimate. Here are the real numbers. And, yeah, we're down. You know what I mean?

We're down millions of jobs. And what's so funny is that they're adjusting what the loss of a job is. Like, they're saying, like, if you're working part-time, then that's a job. then that's a job. Like, oh, no, no, we gain jobs. Yeah, but they're all part-time jobs. Well, four years ago, it had to be a full-time job to be counted. Now, if it's a part-time job, and why are they moving to part-time jobs?

Because if I pay, go to part-time, I don't have to pay all of these other benefits. So now people that should have got a full-time job, you now get a part-time job. You get a 30-hour week or 20, as opposed to 40. All that frustration, no overtime, by the way. That's manipulative. That's manipulate. That's complete manipulation. of everything and you're still losing

jobs. You had a job full time working for FedEx. You got laid off, but you still drive Uber, which you've been driving for Uber the whole time he was with FedEx. But now it's just that you're still employed. You got Uber. You still got that job. I lost the ability to pay

for everything. And Americans are like, okay, now America's going to be forced to think. And we got this technology. We're sharing this information. Like this conversation here, you know, it's not going to be a shooting thing. But, you know, people are going to have to figure out something. What is it going to look like? I'm not sure. Maybe, you know,

and what are the politicians going to want to do? They're going to want to cut some checks, but we can't. You can't. No more. The money's becoming, it's almost, it's not worthless, but it's damn near getting there. Damn it. No more deficit spending. What did Trump spend doing the whole, you know, pandemic things, $400 billion or something like that? Then, Biden came in and did the same thing and he spent about the same or a little bit more. That's insane. What was it? Trillion. I forget which one. But they, They spent, their deficit spent so much money. And then, you know, if Kamala Harris gets in the office, she's going to do the same thing.

That whole, um, we're going to give $50,000 tax credits to brand new businesses, startups. We're going to give a $20,000 or $25,000. I mean, these are great things to say, but the possibility of it actually going through doesn't always work out. I think they will do it. I think they will do it. That's all deficit spending. Like, okay, how are you going to offset this? Well, how are we going to pay for this?

Right. Trump sees that that's working. So what Trump says, okay, we're not going to tax your overtime. we're going to do this. They're all, like you said, they're all scrambling. They're scrambling to give away money that they can't give away. Meanwhile, you look at Jerome Powell and the Fed trying to figure this out. Oh, it's going to be a soft landing.

My ass with this thing is crashing, bro. You know, it's really funny is five years from now when they've really, really perfected stuff like Uber. And so you've got all of Tesla's cars are driving themselves so you don't have any more Uber drivers. and you don't have any more. And then they, you know, five years from now, they come out with these robots. And let's say it takes another five years after the, after they come out with a robot, with Android, whatever you want to call them. These things.

So let's say five years of kids. So let's say 10 years from now when you can basically buy a robot for $100,000 to finance it. And it does your, and it builds your house for you. And like what happens when all those jobs get outsourced the robots and there's just no jobs? That's what Andrew Yang was talking about that. universal basic income thing. That's where UBI came from because Andrew Yang. But they understand like technology has gotten to a point

where things are changing faster than we're prepared for it. You need a good plague at that point. You need to basically cover with some kind of plague to just kind of like just... Or war, a real war, a proper war. Yeah. That's why, you know, I look at you want, okay, people who want your conspiracy, here's your conspiracy. World War III is needed so America can wipe his debt clean.

China holds how much of our debt? I don't know, a chunk. A shit ton. We need China to make a move on Taiwan so we can wipe out China and wipe out our debt. Yeah. Right? The Chinese were probably thinking,

we can probably do this, but they see what we're doing to the Russians in Ukraine and like, uh, we don't want to deal with them American weapons because they shit work. You know, the Chinese weapons and North Korean weapons and the Russian weapons don't work all the time.

You know, I mean, agents got so many. No, I agree. I mean, and they're, you know, I love it when they say, like, they have, oh, they've got three aircraft carriers. Like, what are you talking about, bro? They got three, they got three boats that they're calling aircraft carriers. They got, they can't even launch off them. They damn sure can't, can't, uh, land on them.

And what do they call them heavy cruisers? You know, the one that they had that doesn't even work, the Ukrainians blew one of them up. I mean, it's just, yeah, it's, it's a joke. Like, you know how fucking hard it is to run an aircraft carrier? And we've got a hundred, what, not a hundred years. Wait. no we got 80 years of experience on on 80 90 no 80 no 80 about 80 80 80 years worth of experience running aircraft carriers you guys just came up with one a couple of them five years

ago and they're still using coal they're like shoving coal into the burners or whatever like bralars or nukes like we run on nuclear power yeah it's it's difficult yeah but but they don't have the range they don't have like like they don't have the training yeah their whole military is geared towards trying to take over Taiwan and they're terrified to do that yeah The Chinese don't really have a deep, what do they call it, a deep blue ocean, a blue ocean, navy. Yeah. So it is a thing. If you can get China to make a move on Taiwan, America goes to war, that drags in Japan, South Korea, Australia, right?

North Korea. Yeah, North Korea. And then you look at Europe, you know, now NATO has an excuse to go after Putin. You know they want to make a move on Putin real bad. I think they're going to do it regardless. And then the Middle East, there you go, World War III. And at the end of that. America gets to wipe all his debt clean.

And we start from scratch because I don't see any other way out. How, I mean, you can't. We need a war. I mean, so we need a war. I say a war makes sense. And not a civil war, like a real good old-fashioned global conflict is going to help us wipe. Not a regional conflict in a global. Everybody involved.

And, you know. Without nukes. Without, you know, they might use a couple like low-gill things out there. The Russians might, you know, Chinese, I doubt if they would. Um, but yeah, you know, and then, you know, or Israel might drop something if, if the Iranians get too, you know, too freaky out there. So, but I think it's going to be the Middle East is going to be Europe and then there'll be like the Asian theater just like World War II. So one of my questions, uh, was going to be, what do you think like the government or like decision makers of the country can do to fix the problem or what is the way out? I feel like he, feel like he just said it.

feel like that was the answer to. So I guess maybe my follow-up question is what can Americans or individuals do, in your opinion, to get through these times or Excel or? Americans need to get rid of professional politicians. Yeah, that's, yeah. Americans need to, all Americans need to vote. The vast majority of Americans still don't participate in the process. All Americans need to vote. You know, damn that nonsense of women's shit. shouldn't vote because they're not registered for the draft and all that, man. Later for all that bullshit. Everyone should participate in the process and we need to do what. We need term limits in Congress and we need to do away with the dark money. Say maybe three years as a senator,

that would give you almost 20 years. That's 18. But that's hard to win three consecutive races. But three years as a senator, three terms and then five terms in the house. Yeah, I was going to say Like, nobody should be, nobody should be doing it for 20 years. Like, it's, it's outrageous. It'd be so hard to do, but it gets you 18. Yeah. You know, I think two terms, like 12 years, I guess you could do, you know, whatever, whatever we come up with, we should come up with something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Maybe two terms, three max. Yeah, two, three. Yeah, I get, no, that's what I'm saying, like 20, that's what I'm saying is like, these guys that have been up there for 30 years. It's like, what are you? Yeah, so, so something like that. So, so something like that. So I would say three, three terms in the same. Senate, that's 18 years, but that gives you some continuity. And it's hard to win Senate

races. They cost more. And five terms in the House, that gives you 10 years. And then no more dark money. Like, overturn, make all of the corporations and all of those people have to show the money they're shoving into these companies, these things. So I think if we did those things, and Americans got more involved in the process, I think that's a step in the right direction. and then Americans got to think y'all got to get smart man quit being stupid it's not that America's are dumb on purpose

we're just so bogged down working everyone's working so hard I think Americans are pretty stupid I mean you understand that these politicians get up there and they promise ridiculous things that they can't possibly pull off and they can't possibly provide and people say well

I'm going to vote for him because he said he's going to do this and it's like what are you talking about it's never going to happen If I ever ran for office, I was like, vote for D.L. Sank, he's only going to stick the tip in. That would be my whole platform. If you believe that, I got a bridge.

I want to see you over here in St. Pete. So it's just, but you're right, though. People believe what they want to believe. Come away from the tribal bullshit, man. You can be a Trumper, and you can also have things you don't like about Trump. That's a thing, right? I'm a Cincinnati Bengals fan, man.

I love my Bengals. We lost a close one yesterday. God damn, bro. we lost a close one in Kansas City but there are things about the Cincinnati Bengals I can't stand and I tell everybody who will listen right I voted for Obama twice

so a bunch of things that I got a bunch of problems I got with Barack Obama and I tell anybody who listen but when I you know but you don't want to be that person who was so locked in on one person or one thing that you can't see the rest you got to be able to see it all because if you're locked in on that people are going to surely

take advantage of you so you want to be able to see it all right Donald Trump does doesn't care about poor people, y'all. I'm just letting you know. He doesn't care. You can't, if you can do something for him, then he's going to rock with you. But if you can't do anything for him, and if you're poor, what can you do for a wealthy man if you're poor?

Nothing. He already got your vote. So you got to think it through. That's the one thing I learned about politics. Politicians didn't care about me when I was poor. They didn't give a shit about me when I was poor in my problems in Cincinnati, Ohio. Even when I would talk to him, they would talk to you for maybe 45 seconds. But damn, I spent eight months working on your campaign and phone banking and walk in the precincts and into volunteering my time.

Yeah, thanks. Do you think Kamala Harris cares about the four? No. She's rich. Why was she giving shit about the poor people? But the Democrats, they're going to give better game to the poor. I don't disagree, but. I mean, as far as they're going to give them the game that they want to hear like, you know.

Oh, you mean they're going to, they're going to, they're going to play kids. They're going to tell them more that they're going to do it. Yeah, she got, she got, she got, she got gang for the poor, unlike the Republicans. The Republicans, the Republicans, the Republicans say, you need to be rich. You need to make money. Start working. And I'll, I'll get to middle class and I'll care about you. Yeah, what middle class is gone?

I love to get to middle class. If you aren't even fucking a little class, there's a little, there's a layer there still. You have it or you don't today, brother. You have it or you don't. There's no middle class anymore. It just doesn't exist. I'm sorry. I guess I'm the bad guy

for telling you, it's gone. I saw the middle class in the 70s and 80s. You saw the middle class in the 70s and 80s. It's gone now. I feel like I'm living in a middle class neighborhood.

Bro. How many of your neighbors out here are just fucking financed up to their fucking eyebrows? But I also think that both my neighbors next door, the husband and the wife work. Of course they do.

Now, the people next door, they don't, well, I think the wife died. But the husband is, they're just retired. No, they're just retired. But, I mean, most of the people around here, I think both couples were, or both parent, both, both couples. The husband and the wife both work. But think about that, that's the American way now.

And you got to have good jobs. So, I mean, to me, both of them working, like, that is, that's the new middle class. So it takes both of them to work to pay their bills. But you're right. I don't know what their finances is. They, one of them loses your jobs for a month, and it's over. They code down like the Titanic. Somebody gets sick.

It's over. Someone gets into a crash. It's over. You know, what's the average. What's the median household income these days? I want to say the median household income is for the nation just under $100,000. Okay. It is $80,000 and $20.

I was just going to say $80. And I thought, no, it's either $80 or $120, it's around. It was just under $100,000. Yeah. That's household, bro. That's two grown-ups working. That's your middle class? Come on, man.

That's rough. Well, that would be middle class if the average home wasn't $300. That's my point. What's the average home? $415,000. Check my math. Quarter one on 2024, $412,000, $400,000 on an $80,000. That's, wow.

It's impossible. You know the math? You know what's so funny about this? How many people I've got to create to get into that? I mean, I'll get you in it. No. But you know what's so funny about that is that when I was doing mortgages, the, you know, your debt to income could not be over 36 to 38 percent, depending on what program,

36, 38. Now, if it was FHA, it could be up to like, I want to say 43%, maybe 47. Let's say 40, I think it was 47. Almost 50% then, 5% of his hand. So it came up for a conventional loan, though, it was 36, right? 36, 38. You know what it is now? 55.

They'll let you go up to 55. And I think FHA, they let you go up to something like 60. You're telling me that you're okay with me spending every single, because you're, Keep in mind, too, that's gross. That's not... Right, that's not net. That's gross. That's gross.

So, you're telling me that my taxes are 30 to 40% of my... So if it's 40% of my wages, well, let's say if you're in that bracket, you're probably at 30. So I see, 30% of your wages go. So that means you make $100,000, you're getting 70. You're telling me I can... You're okay with me spending 55,000 of that 70 or 60 to 65 of the $70,000, you're okay with me spending.

Every fucking dime on my bills, that's acceptable. And they raised it to get people to borrow more, to buy more. It's like, are you, like, those are the kinds of decisions that they make that they're thinking, well, yeah, they can buy more. You're making that decision for you as a politician, not for these people. These people can't, if you're getting them into massive amounts of debt that they can't afford. That's, that's horrific. It's a bad decision. I'm making that decision as a lobbyist.

and I'm paying the politician to serve this crap up. That's another thing they ought to get rid of lobby lobbyists, right? Really, they ought to, they ought to go French revolution on the lobbyists, right? Like, you take enough of them out front in front of the White House and you start, you should go, she'll go, shakle, you know, you, you send a message. That's what Theo Vaughn talked to Trump about a little bit. Oh, right. Lobvious? And, yeah, it was one of this.

I like, Trump said to Elon Musk, he said he wanted to give him an appointment in one of the cabinet to go through and government waste. So it's just, this is all a puppet show, bro. That's great. Bro. I know you're saying it's soundbite, but it's still, it's good stuff.

All the fucking puppy show, bro. What are we going to do? Like, roll back the laws regarding lobbyists to the laws that were on books in the 70s and 80s. You know, roll back the tax is on the corporate tax rate to where it was back in the 70s and 80s. You know,

um, you have to empower, you need a middle class. you need you in order like I don't care how many widgets you can make but if your employees can't afford to buy your product you're not especially in America who else is going to buy it this is the this is the wealthiest nation on the planet bar you know another thing they ought to do think about this you know like first of one you know that our electrical grid is like held together with like bubble gum and and spit right like it's it's like it's waiting to collapse waiting to collapse and keep in mind that a few years ago like Texas went out for days like a good chunk of Texas went out, they could barely put it together. There was a cyber attack here in Tampa. Now, that's a couple years ago where they made the grid go down to Herezboro County. That was probably locked up.

Anyway, the point is, is that the funny thing is, so one of the things they always talk about is if there's a war, one of the things that our enemies will do is go for the power grid. The power grid goes out, it's almost, it's very, there's such a, there's such a thing as having a knocking out enough of it, and then the whole thing collapsed. You don't have to knock out much of it for the entire. entire system to go down because it gets overloaded and all the transformers blow. And then it's basically, once it's down, it would take like a decade to get it back together.

And part of the reason it would take that long is because all of our transformers are built in China. Not some of them, all of them. There are no American manufacturing. So you'd have to pre-put-together that technology, that manufacturing in the United States without power, and put together. And then you have to put it together and start building transformers. And it takes like six months to build one transformer.

So that's with right now when they order them. Because there's not that many factories because these things last forever. So they order them constantly. But the fact is, is that thousands of them would go down and it would take 10 years of multiple factories being built to build transformers to try and put it back together. Can you imagine? And yet some politician thought it was a good idea to let these companies outsource building transformers. to somebody who is potentially our enemy. Bro, I'll raise you.

Right after, not long after 9-11, they wanted to outsource the security of the ports to Middle Eastern companies. Right after 9-11. Like, oh, so we don't have to worry about learning how to fly planes and all that. We can just walk onto these boats,

put whatever we want on these boats and have it do whatever's going to do. Bro, America greed and America. You just said they were smart. You just said Americans were pretty smart. They can be, if they want to be. You know, Americans choose to watch the whatever TikTok craze is going on right now.

Americans choose to not watch a documentary on World War II or 9-11, a real documentary. They choose to believe in these conspiracies. They choose to do that. Put a little bit. If you want to go down a rabbit hole on something, you want to do some conspiracy stuff, fine. But go and find some other stuff. And try to balance it out. You know, we got, we got people who believe the earth is flat.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't. Look, okay, if you believe, if someone believes that, that's fine. But the fact that you're so comfortable with it, that you say it out loud, like that, and you'll argue it. And it's, you sound so stupid. Like, how to, bro. And it just so, if, if we have a movement to, it used to be a time when Americans read

the newspaper every day. Right. We remember that growing up. Right. You had the three newspapers would come out the morning. You walk in and your parents my dad with the newspaper was huge,

it was massive. Just going through the paper. You had cartoons in there. Give me the comic strips. You walk in and go, dad, he'd grab part of the newspaper and bid it down. What?

With a cigarette and you call, what? Dash your mother. Right. And he read it. The nightly news, you know, came on and they only had so much time.

6 o'clock and 10 o'clock. And they weren't trying to, yeah, and they weren't trying to, you know, like get you to it, it wasn't clickbait. It was news. Yeah, yeah. It was new. Yeah, it had a little. I talked about this the other day.

It had a liberal slant to it. But it was news. It wasn't like today, like, you look at CNN, you look at Fox and you look at news nation, all these other. It's like, bro, where do you go? I got to watch Al Jazeera if I'm trying to find out what's really going on. I have to watch. Yeah, I watch like the, the, the, there's this, the Indian, or is that's not,

Al Jazeera. Now this is that, is it Al Jazeera is like the, for the Middle East and all that kind of stuff. That's Al Jazeera's the one I watch. Yeah, that are like the, or like the BBC or something. And BBC is really liberal. Yeah, you have to, but you have to watch basically, you still end up getting more information. Listen, I'm watching something on the Trump the other day and they were saying that, that, they said

that a, like a, they said that a man got too close to Trump and ended up injuring him. That's how they described the, a month ago the he got too close to Trump and injured him

oh my bad I made you trip on my 5, 5, 6 like oh my God like I don't even understand how you could be if I was the news anchor I'd be like

I you've got come on what are you doing well news organizations used to have to go out there and make sure the story was true to have to go out there

but they don't do that it was outrageous to get the headlines out again Americans got to get smarter and now they read now all they have all of the U.S. Attorney's offices and FBI offices and police departments. They all have their own

press conferences. So what they do now is when they release a press release. And I know this because when I would get, I would be writing, let's say I was writing your story. I would obviously order a Freedom of Information Act. I'd get somebody on the street to pull all the, all the, any clippings of you. And I would get in articles. And I'd be like, oh, you, I see that you were in like the Tampa Tribune. And I'd read the article. I'd go, oh, there's a press release that was by the FBI from your New York case, and I'd read it and I'd go, you know what it looks like? And then you'd go, oh, you were also in the St. Pete Times. And it's basically that on December 1st, your press release came out. On December 2nd, the Tampa Tribune rewrote it, and the St. Petersburg

Times rewrote it, and the Miami Herald rewrote it. But not one person did anything, said anything other than what was said on here. Maybe somebody made a phone call and got a quote from someone. And it's like, this is nuts. This is a thousand page or a thousand words. This is 900. This is, you know, a thousand 50. This is 950.

Like you, it's almost verbatim. What it looks like is somebody took the press release and dropped it in a chat GPT and said, rewrite this for me. And they rewrote it and spit it back out. That's it. And now we got clips. Everything's built around clips. I challenge people to don't just look at the clips, man, go deeper.

Like you said about Andrew Tate. Yeah, Andrew Take can look horrible. Those clips on Joe Rogan using the N-word, I know Joe Rogan. Good guy. When I saw that, I was like, ooh, you know what I mean? That looked hard. And Rogan said it. Like, when I saw, he talks about it in his latest bit.

He did his latest special, which I thought was funny. I made a video about it. I thought it was okay. People came from my neck, bro, because they just don't like Joe Rogan. I'm like, bro, his shit was funny. But anyway, you know what I mean? People clip stuff and make it look a certain way. You've got to go back and watch it.

Listen, listen, these two guys, Colby and Luke, his buddy, his, his, his employee, associate, whatever, subcontracted clips guy. Listen, I can't tell you how many clips I've, I got guys right now that's got a, it's got a video that's got like four million views or something where they clipped it up. it makes it sound like I'm saying that I'm paying Mexicans $900 to put a roof on. That's not the clip. I'm saying when you go, they're going to pay, charge you, whatever, $3,000 to put the roof on. Now, I'm thinking I'm buying all the materials. I'm paying you $300. And then, of course, you know, you pay them and all that's gone.

All it says is, you know, I give the Mexicans $900 put it on the roof. They clip it up. Like, what I said? It's not reason at all. Now, they do that. If they can take a story that I've said and say something, turn it in something controversial, they'll do it. You know why? Because if they do the whole clip and it makes sense, it gets 40,000 views.

If they do it so that it sounds insane, it gets 4 million views. So you got to do what you got to do. And here's the thing. That's fine for entertainment. It's horrible. I mean, it is what it is. But that's fine for entertainment. But you can't do that for news and information.

Like, there's certain things we got to... I think you're wrong about that. They can. They do all that they do all the time. They shouldn't. They shouldn't. That should be illegal. You know what me for that type of stuff.

You know what it is? It's 1984. It's George Orwell's 1984. Are you, you have read... Kind of. Kind of. I mean, like the whole Big Brother thing, 100%. Yeah, but I mean, I'm also talking about like Wilson, and Wilson's the protagonist in it, right?

Wilson works for, I believe, the Ministry of Truth, and what the Ministry of Truth is doing is actively lying to society. They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, he's rewriting articles for the newspaper and blatantly lying to, uh, to, uh, to the citizens that are reading that. And he's being told what's, what's say, obviously by, by the government. China, you don't need the book for that. That's China. Well, I mean, that's, but I mean, that's, that's like, look, look.

Kamala Harris, I know six months, about a year ago, Kamala Harris, it came out, she was, they had appointed her, the borders are. Yeah, and Republicans are just saying she was in charge of the border, which isn't true, but she was appointed. They wanted her to look into it and do whatever. But they're now saying she was never appointed and she was never in charge of and she was never told to look into it. I watched, I remember watching, it was only like a four or five minutes of this clip of her talking about being appointed and how she was going to go to the, to their, they had asked if she'd been and she's like, no, I've never, I haven't been and she was a whole little thing. But it was like, now they're saying that that never happened. Like, there's all these things that's like, you're saying that that never. You know what I would say to that.

What? How many clips do we have with Trump saying shit that he didn't? He said that he didn't say. It wasn't a debate. Right. Hey, you were on Lex Freeman. You said I lost by a whisker. No, I didn't.

Oh, I was, you know, I was, whatever. I was joking. I didn't mean that. You know, I was being condescending. No, bro, we watched it. You said you lost by a whisker. So, and again, to my point. And I'm-

But that's the same thing. I'm just using Kamala Harris as a thing. Right. But they literally will look you in the face. Whether it's Trump or it's Harris, Harris, they will look you in the face and tell you, that you did not see what you click what this did not happen which i have it on tape like you know i have it on tape i can show it to you yeah you did this like you it's right here and they're saying

no it's like when uh george w bush read my lips no new taxes and you know he paid for that you know but why did he raise taxes because it was best for the country and he did what he felt was best for the country my problem with today's politician i'm not quite sure how they are they doing what's in the best interests of our country, are they doing what's in the best interests of Americans? I don't believe so anymore. I don't think so. I don't believe so because I would put it all on Trump and I'm like, I'm looking at Harris. I'm looking at, you know, Biden. I'm looking at Biden wanting to be president and stay. Knowing that this is the, this is not good for America, bro. You need to go. Like,

you're not here. Nope. And try and try to, you know, strong arm his way and just staying into the White House. No one cares about the country anymore. Um, you know, we just get these terrible choices. And, and that's where we are right now. And, and, and, and, I tell people all the time, man, vote. Just go ahead and vote. Even, you know, I get a lot of Trumpers, the MAGA guys come after me. I'm like, look, bro, I just want you to vote.

People like, well, you are a hair supporter. Like, I'm not a hair supporter. I got one of my comments the other day. I'm like, I am not a hair supporter. I do not support Kamala Harris. You know, but if I'm forced, I got to make a choice here. And from my, from my standpoint, I get to pick solid feces or diarrhea.

Right? This is what I get to pick. No matter what I choose, I'm stuck with shit. all right. That's how I look at this. And it's, I'm not happy. I'm not proud. I think America's in a bad place. Like I agree with you in the next four years is going to be horrible. And when it goes bad, people are going to be crying and pointing the other way. I'm like, stop that. Can we stop the boat from fucking sinking? Because if we don't, we're all going to drown. And it is, it's time for America to come together and do some shit. I know I was talking

about racism and little race thing here and there and this and that. But you know what? That's America. We're always going to have that. My life today is a black man in America. Way better than my great-great-grandfather's experience in this country. Way better. I am descended from slaves. I've seen the pictures. Like, I know what plantations we came from. I've been to the plantations, right?

And look at me now. Right now, does that mean I'm going to forget that shit? Does that mean I'm going to give DeSantis a pass when he said slaves did well under slavery and they learned some shit? They said that. Did the Sanchez say that? Yes. I've never heard that. The Santa said that, yeah, because they learned traits.

They learned trades. And I was like, what? Again, I wish she had somebody to bounce that shit off of before you go open your mouth. And then what I get frustrated as a black Republican, a real Republican, I get frustrated when the right does shit like this. It's like, I can't go over there. I can't go over there. I can't come over here now because y'all has some stupid shit like that. Right?

I can't come over here. Like, what are you doing? Or you're mixing it up with the white nationalist or you're mixing it up with the KKK guys. Like, I can't come over here, bro. At least let them do say they former KKK, something like, damn, he still got this sheet. You know what I mean? Like, what are we doing here? I can't.

And I think after this cycle, let's say Trump loses, I think what's going to happen is the Republicans are going to get a hold of the crazies and put them back in the fringes where they belong. And they're going to take control of their party. And they're going to come out strong. Like I said, it's going to be bad for the next four years. So they'll be able to come out strong, get a real can't. it right and be able to do some real shit um there's no reason that successful black people shouldn't be more conservative these days i believe i'm 100% with that i don't under you but

the reason why we're not over there is because of the racial overtones that is still over there in that party which is on the far fringes right again the vast majority of americans ain't racist like that you know when it comes to the political thing is again it's i talk to my republican friends all the time and they agree the cameras are off they're like yeah man dudes dude's fucking up. But to your point, it might work to our advantage if he loses White House, you know, White House, you know, the Democrats hold the White House. Yeah, during the, yeah, like step back and say, hey, run with it because there's nothing

anybody could do. And the worse it goes for them, the easier the Republicans are that, you know, it always kills me that when there's a financial downturn, the country looks to the Republican, to conservatives to fix it. And then once it gets fixed and there's an excess of money, they want to run. run in and have the Democrats run in and spend all the money. The Republicans have historically always been conservatively, you know, fiscal conservatively. But that's changed.

You know, it's now... Well, the parties have switched in general because... Yeah, they did just... I mean, look, after World War I, we were like isolationists, right? And after World War II, we were globalists. But I think at this point, it's better to probably move back to being isolationist since... Can't. Can't be an isolationist in a world that's connected by tech.

You can't. To a degree, I'm sorry. saying, as far as the military is concerned, placing military bases all over the world and spending money with all of these countries, giving away tons of money. The vast majority of money we spend is on the military. It's like a trillion dollars a year we spend on our military. Now, I agree we could take some of that money and do better things with it for America. But as far as pulling our military out, why don't you just pull the military out and stick it all throughout Central America and just take over the entire, the entire

the South American continent and North American continent. I mean, bro, I mean, I ain't, you know, if that's what you want to do, we might as just take the Middle East where the oil is. Well, why? We can, we can, we've got a lot of oil and we can move away from. Let's get to dinosaurs. I'm saying, no, I'm saying, move power plants, power plants, solar, and, and electric vehicles.

It'd take a long time to get there. Most people hate the idea of it, but then you don't have to rely on the Middle East at all. And then what do they have? They're back to add nothing. Here's the thing, though, we can't pull our soldiers out. And China doesn't have any oil. We can't pull our soldiers out. Oh, boy, Japanese.

Like, they would be like, oh, my God, could you imagine? What do they have? They'd have to move to solar, too. I mean, you just can't lead people to their own devices, let them do that shit. And then what are we going to do when they do act up? How are we going to get to them? You know what I mean? It's one of those kind of things.

Well, we can move. America has the ability to move its military, like, no. I want my people on your soil. I want my people right there. You could do a few. If you could do a few throughout Europe, a few, you don't have to have a hundred bases. Yeah, I want my people on your soil. But again, this is just me talking.

Like, bro, I'm just, I really believe in taking care of America right now. You know, it's, you know, America right now is in trouble. Did you just know of the way about it? Ever see the White Castle? Was it called White Castle? The man in the White Castle? Man in the High Tower. Is it High Tower?

That was the one when the Nazis won and the Japanese won, America. And they split up America? Yeah. Oh, my God. Horrible ending. But, wow, what an amazing series. What a premise. Yeah, what a premise.

Yeah. Horrible ending, though, because it just doesn't go anywhere. At the very end of the whole thing, it's like, it's just doesn't go anywhere. They write themselves into boxes. That's what they're is. I know. It's like, hey, we've got a great premise, but you can't figure out how to write it out. And then it ends up being some science fiction thing that you're like, oh, this just turned stupid.

Start with the ending. So, you know, you got some. where to go. Start with the ending, or at least we know we want to end in this vein, and that gives you someplace to go. That's what's great about true crime. I don't have to come up with any of that shit. It already happened.

I know how it ends. Now I just got to, we just got to work, follow the story to the ending, and then, you know, that's it. Like, it's great because I don't have to come up with an ending, you know. And sometimes with true crime or with real life, you couldn't make the shit up that happens. And Kobe, how do we fix this, bro? How do we fix this, man? Well, I do have one comment that I think you guys, I think you guys can talk about.

and you could say how true it is or how accurate you think it relates and I know you've heard it. Hard times, create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times, create weak men and weak men create hard times. Would you agree?

And do you think, what stage do you think we're at? I agree 100% weak men have created the hard times. That's what we are right now. Yeah, I think it's filled with weak men right now. Week men have created a hard times. Yeah, and the hard times are coming.

Those hard times will create harder men. because listen that if you've got a soft society and plenty of money you can afford to be soft that people get soft they start getting participation trophies they start being told that you're okay just the way you are and everybody loves you and you're wonderful that you know it just becomes you stop raising men you start you start raising you know daughters that are borderline and guys that are borderline women i mean you know you start you start just, it just becomes horrific. They are women.

Just ask them. And then you, you people become, you start, you start, you start actually, um, entertaining the delusions that people have and fostering these delusions instead of say, slapping them in the face and saying, pull your shit together. You're not a cat. Okay. Like you don't get the, you know, you're not a furry. Boy, I was a man, that furry shit, but I never laughed so hard in my life when I first saw

that, like furries. Oh my God. What's wrong with people? So, so what happened? is because of that, we're now about to have some really fucking hard times. And all those people who want to get hugs, when they start starving and they have no food and they're begging the government, and they realize, but why doesn't the government give us anything?

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Conditions apply. The economy's collapsing. And even the government can't tax us enough to get enough food to feed your lazy asses. And you have to start working. Those people will become tough and they will pull themselves out of, back from the brink, hopefully. And that's a revolution. once the government says we don't have anything for you, those people are going to grab their guns

and go get that food. That's where, so it's not, again, it's not a civil war. It's a revolt. It's like, well, I know where they got that prime rig and I'm going to go get it or nothing. You know what I mean? I'm going to go get it. We're going to eat tonight because there are more weapons

in this country than people. There are more firearms than American than people. Right. So that's where I think we're headed. I think it's going to be when you can't feed your child. And like you said, hunger, you've been hungry before. I don't know if you've ever really been hungry before. Like hunger, bro, that's the worst feeling.

I mean, that is the worst feeling. When you're hungry and you've been hungry for the day. You ever been real hungry before? I mean, yeah, in prison. That's why I was like, you've been hungry. And that's that, when that the grumbling and then the headaches and like just being weak and then like just, bro, there's nothing like that feeling. It sucks, man.

So when people get to that point, your kids. are crying because they can't eat. And then folks are like, well, the government said they were going to drop off some, man, fuck that, bro. Give me that thing over there. I'm about to go get something. I'm about to go get it. That's where we're going to have, you know,

and then the security guy who's out there trying to defend the restaurant or whatever, how bad does he want to defend the restaurant? It's like, I'm not trying to lay myself down. These people are hungry. They got nothing to lose. There's nothing like going up against someone who has nothing to lose. You see it in their eyes. Like, this dude is about to crash out for real.

And why is he crashing out? Because he wants to feed his family. So I think we're going to hit something like that. But yeah, the hard times are definitely here. Do you think we get to a point where, you know, with the advancements of technology where people's needs can be met with, there's on TikTok or, you know, eventually these people are going to have AI sexual things where it's like these guys that are maybe your lower level male, your lower level human, they can, thank you, thank you.

They can meet their own desires. The in-cells don't need where they can actually get a girlfriend that's a robot. Do they have to become strong men or are they just going to become weak men on their devices and just kind of, you know, just because technology has gone so far where their basic needs are met and they're just. All right. Here's your, I mean, here's the, you know, rabbit hole take on this, bro. Here's your conspiracy theory. I would say the best way to make strong men through, you know, the cyborg or whatever,

the sibot, and have your shtobot tell him to work out to stop playing video games, to go and be more productive, he'll do it. Right? And at the same time, it was like, bro, did we just replace women? And women have been running around talking about men can be replaced. What about that's terrible.

The idea that it's, the problem is, It's not even, like, it's not even that you could say, okay, well, it's social influence. It's actually become biology, right? Like, men aren't producing testosterone. It's fact. You know, men are, like, our testosterone levels have dropped dramatically. We're having less children. Like, like, you can't say, oh, well, it's just, we're just, we've just got more things and we're becoming, we're becoming better people.

or we're becoming more sensitive, or you're changing, like, listen, we've got another five or six years of growth in the United States. In other countries, it's already started shrinking. Their civilizations, like, their countries are shrinking as far as, as far as people are concerned. Developations, but the third world is still growing. Well, the third world, but in general, overpopulation isn't going to be an issue. It's the population in general, globally, is very soon. It's already basically breaking even. It's going to start shrinking soon. I can see that. I mean, people always think, oh, overpopulation, there won't be enough this. No, that's not what's happening at all. And, and, and Kobe, to your point, AI girlfriends are already a thing. Have you

looked into that? Oh, I mean, I've heard about it. And I just know how addictive the, even just the normal, your normal TikTok algorithms are, people are just consuming sound bites and being less critical. It's like, will there be a shift or will people just continue to just, you know just consume and sit and just be pushed further to either side of the spectrum just because the AI algorithms are pushing certain narratives like you have to be like when I consume things I consume things knowing like this is a headline but I know this could be totally false this could be totally wrong you know I purposely tried to follow people on both sides of spectrum because the same story has two different conclusions on both sides like is the average American

is the average person thinking that way, but is the average person just, you know, I don't know, sitting, I feel like most young Americans are just sitting around consuming and... Playing video games. Consuming content, playing video games, not thinking about the future. When I was, as far back as I can remember,

I wanted to be a paratrooper. We talked about that when I was first here. I wanted to jump out of airplanes. That's what I wanted to do. Now, these kids, they want to be influences. That's it. That's their goal. I mean, damn.

Could you imagine your full-time job being YouTube? How horrible would that be? This is a tough gig, man. I ain't a lot, bro. It's fun for me. It's something to do. But to have to depend on this, no. No.

It's anxiety. I only check this. Maybe I'm down to probably 60 times a day. I barely do it. But I mean, it's just to your point, if we had the by fully functioning, full functioning, synthetic woman that's beautiful and you can smash

and bang it and it makes you a sandwich is that is that is that cheating though you want we should ask my wife if we got a spot would she consider that cheating have you seen the video that'll put her on a

that'll be it'll be a whole fucking the rest of the day I'll be getting tax show come home pissed off that I even talk even what does that mean what do you mean this what is that what is that what are you thinking about getting a set are you thinking about other words

that to me you're cheating just thinking about, be like, oh, my God. Have you seen the people where they ask people, and I guess it's like Asian countries, they'll ask the woman, like, do you think is cheating? And they'll say no, like for the male. Well, listen, like 20 years ago, 20 years ago, they, well, it might be, it's probably 25 now. About 25 years ago, this is after the collapse of the Soviet Union, right? they had surveyed

teen girls on what they wanted to be when they grew up and like 70% of them said they wanted to enter the trade they wanted to be 70% You say this is former Soviet

Black nations? Yeah, this was after the Soviet had fallen. It maybe was a few, maybe five, well, maybe it was five to 10 years after, after 1999. So there's probably late late 90s, early 2000, and like 70% said they wanted to enter the, like, that was to them, that was like, that's money, bro, that makes sense.

Yeah, yeah, I want to be a massage therapist. They make good money or I want to do nails or because that was the trade that they thought they could go into and make money at. Well, they heard the stories or whatever. Now, I mean, you look at now, these young girls are all about OF. Right. Same thing for no reason. Like all these, you know, American women are like, yeah, it's okay to do this.

It's not okay. It's work. But if that's what you want to do, fine. but you got to understand that's this work you know i think if the two your question about the sex but i think if most dudes could if there were no stigma no shame or whatever and if a guy would have his main woman but he can go out and and you know smash just random girls i think i'm not going to say most but i would say the majority of guys would say yeah i want to do that not just this think about it you're saying um that it would be basically they'd be embarrassed

for people to know but think about it like this 20 years ago if you got to on a dating app, it was embarrassing. Now, I have no fucking shame to saying I've gotten on most 90, you know, I think it's a, is it three out of, is it three out of four or three out of five relationships or marriages started on a dating app? Yeah, it used to be in the office. Now it's on dating apps. Nobody's, nobody's embarrassed to say that now. They used to meet in the office. They used to meet in church. They used to meet through friends. Now they're meeting online. Same thing. Bots. If you have a, if you got the Elon Musk sex bot and she looks good, what if you couldn't even tell other than the fact that she was that's what i'm talking about i couldn't tell

there was a tv show a tv show called skins oh yeah yeah did you see that one did you ever see the movie um cherry cherry i didn't see cherry 2000 this is back in the 80s i see that i'm like that one of sorry but the the whole premise was about synthetic i've seen the preview by the way yeah the the woman who started this went on to star in one of the that one marvels movie did did really bad um the eternals was it called the eternals she started in that That was garbage. But anyway, the premise was good. It was that premise like, you know, is it cheating if you have a synthetic, you know, versus organic.

And I think it solves a lot of problems. I mean, I think it gives you complete control over the bottom 80. Now you got guys who don't have to do the work. They don't have to learn how to, you know, talk to women. It's hard getting a girlfriend and all that. They don't have to worry about all that. By that point, you have to have universal because if you can do that, if you could pull that off, you can have workers and factories.

They could be doing cleaning your house. They can be driving your everything. Like, you've got a complete nation of slaves if you could make a spot that was indisputable from a regular human being. You don't have to work anymore practically. Because they could do all your work for you. So, but, yeah, to the point. What would your purpose be in life? You wouldn't have one.

We're close to that now. I mean, it's just one of those things, man. But as far as the red pill is concerned, if you came up with synthetic girls, it's a game changer. Now you got all these guys who would, if they cost $300,000, these dudes would figure out a way to get $300,000 and they'll order themselves a batty. My interpretation of the red pill is uncomfortable truths. Like, we just look at the world and let's just get the true, unbiased take on whatever, be it dating the sexual marketplace, the political world, like, getting locked up the streets.

Like, let's talk about the real red pill. Like in the movie Matrix, you know, you can take this red pill, or you take the blue pill, you take the blue pill, you wake up in your fantasy lane, take the red pill, you see how deep the rabbit hole really goes. I thought you take the, the red pill shows you what's really going on. The truth. That's because you wake up out of the matrix. Take the blue one. Well, then you stay in the Matrix. Yeah, take the blue pill, you wake up and stay in the Matrix in the fake world.

Take the red pill and you get to see what the world really looks like. Right. You get to see the code. So they tricked him, bro. He had no idea. Like your boy Cypher was like, they're going to put me back in. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's like, I'm done with this.

So, um, so no, like so when I came into the space like most, man, something, there's a catalyst that makes you go looking for some answers. And those answers that take you to down this red pill rabbit hole into the manosphere, which Cooper calls it, the manoswomp. The manosphere. That's what they call it, the manosphere. Uh, yeah. And it is, and when you get there, you feel.

find a bunch of dudes who mostly are just angry, they're upset, because the world isn't what they were told they're supposed to be. Right. Right. Everyone's supposed to get a trophy just to ask your mom. You're special, right? You're a winner. I love that Jordan Peterson.

He's like, you're not special or, you know, or maybe you're special, but you do need improvement. You do, you're not perfect. It's not, it's you're perfect the way you are. No, you're not. You're not perfect the way you are. I'm certainly not perfect the way I am. I can.

And there's always room for improvement. Always. Right. And my wet field you're in, no matter who you are, what you do. So when I got into the red pill space, that's what drew me in. And that's why I stayed. I'm like, oh, bro, I had no idea so many guys needed this sort of help. They have no idea what's going on.

And most of the sentences around dating. That's where most of the guys, they're, man, how do I get a girlfriend? How do I get a wife? That's what they want. Right. So the Fresh and Fit podcast I talked about my buddies, my owner fresh, they came along and they were just giving dudes

the unfiltered, just here it is, punches to the gut, this is how it works. If you're a fat, if you smell bad, if you're not in a gym, bro, you're going to lose in this game. Women want the best, period. And, you know, and what really propelled their platform

is they would bring girls on the show. the after-hours thing. And women would just come on the show, and you would see what women are thinking. Like, so what type of, you know, excuse me, ladies, describe your ideal man, and they almost describe the same dude. It's going to be like six feet of hot tiler. It's going to be fit. It's going to be funny.

He's going to be charming. He's going to be making $300,000 a year. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And they think that's like the average guy. They think that's like, oh, I don't know, 25, 30 percent of men make over 300,000. a year and it's like and they're and oh I don't know 25% of men are six foot tall it's like you're delusional I love when they pull that thing out there hold on a second the delusal and they go through the whole thing and they're down to like less than one percent and then I love that the girls

are still sitting there going yeah well if that's what it is well don't worry I'm going to get them and they're like well wait a minute that why would that guy go for you you're 40 pounds overweight you're you got an only fans account you're selling your body tattoos you're you got tattoos you got this you you just sat here and bragged about having you know banged over a hundred guys like why would that that high value less than one percent of society guy go for you because mom said I'm special yeah exactly right that's what it's like and the fact that listen when they when it hits it because some of them are so and so delusional it doesn't sink in they get argumentative some of them you can when it hits them and they just fucking they'll just start crying and get up

and leave. You're like, oh, wow. I'm like, I feel bad for them because they're surrounding themselves by these delusional people and they're living in that delusional world. And even their guy friends are supporting this, this behavior because their guy, their guy friends have blue hair and they're 30 pounds overweight. And they don't mind that they're not, that they pay for everything and don't, and don't. And most importantly, those guy dudes are trying to, they're trying to smash. So it's not, they're not even your real friend. And that's one of the things fresh and fit with viral so many times, having women grab their phone, call their best buddy, and it's like, hey, you know, I want to have sex.

And the girl, like, he would never, and, you know, 99 times out of 10. Yeah. Yeah, unless the guy's gay, right? Or even in, sometimes some dudes will come over, bro. Like, it's weird. What the red pill teaches that most guys just don't understand, we understand because we came up the way we came up. Yeah, I was going to say, because it's my age.

Anybody who's in their 20s. even 30s, even, that I've talked to, they are, they're, they've got some issues. Like, majors. They didn't go outside. Those people who like, uh, Kobe, this stay in the house, playing on your computers. They don't go outside. They don't understand what the real world is about. So that was, like, Colby's actually like the perfect middle class guy.

Married, were you and, did you go to high school with your wife? Yeah, well, we didn't, we met high school. Yeah, we didn't go to the same high school. That's what's up. Kind of married his high school sweetheart, right? Like, newer in high school. married or later, has two kids. He won the game, bro.

Has a house. Now. Has, you know, a couple, like, just total, like, it's like middle class America, except that he runs his own business, you know, middle class America, to me, I always think of those guys as having a decent job. But I guess it could be, something like that. But I guess you could also incorporate, no, no, he owns his own business. Well, you were talking about, like, back of the day.

Yeah, you can, because back in the day for us, it was like, oh, you were like the manager at Procter & Gamble or something like that. But, yeah, same thing. if you own your own business is the same thing. By the way, Colby also checks all those boxes. You know what I'm saying? Six feet. Yeah, six foot.

How tall are you? Probably 5'10. Fucking bastard. 510. What I do. Yeah, 510, you know, good looking, makes good money. You know what I'm saying? You're saying?

You check, check, check. Oh. Right. I mean, so when you look at like the Red Pill world, and what I found when I got into the Red Pill world is 80% of the guys in that world, they don't want to do the work. They're just looking for a place

where they can say, yeah, yeah, it's her fault or it's society's fault or it's his fault. It's your fault. Yeah. You're like, what? Dude, I ain't six feet, but, you know, you're fit and you got this

boom-in podcast and your business is going great and blah, blah, blah. So it's, they never look in the mirror, and it's like, it's my fault for being weird. It's my fault for not going out there and work on my social game. It's my fault for not taking a shower. It's my fault for not learning how to talk to women.

They don't want to do that. 20% of those guys are out there doing the work. And all those dudes get angry at some point. They call it red pill rage. They get in there. They get mad. They're mad at women. They're mad at society.

And what I'm trying to do is getting to these spaces and just help the guys who really want to do the work. It's like, look, man, quit being up mad at the game. People are like, well, I'm sick of playing games. I'm like, brother, life is a game. Yeah. I don't care what you do, where you go. It's a game, and you got to play it. You're born into this game, and you will die in this game.

That's just, I'm sorry. Yes, that's your first red pill truth right there. Now, the society at large doesn't like the red pill, and there are people will give you different reasons as to what. I honestly believe that. It's a harsh truth. It's a harsh truth. And it's, bro, how dare you tell me the truth?

Yeah. You know, being the military guy, they will tell us when we went on missions. Like, yo, it's going to be 60% casualty race on this one. We knew going in, like, all right, we ain't all coming out. There was no sugarcoat and stuff in the military. And you didn't put your gun down and go home. No. No, you could try.

You could try it and go work out for you. But the red pill guys, you know, who get in there and actually do the work are happy on the other end. There are even couples, like, there are women who fall into the red pill. Hill Space and listen, like you said, like the women who listen to what's being said, it's like, oh, my goodness, they're right. These guys are never going to commit to me, these Chad types, these, you know, wealthy dudes, they're just going to have their fun with me, and then they're going to move on to another woman. I need to figure this out.

Well, there are women that push the whole agenda or philosophy also, like Pearl. Yeah. Yeah. Pearl, it's funny. I used to, I lost, and I still like, really, she's, I don't know, she didn't come up on my feet anymore, but for a long time she was. And then, you know what happened was I was watching her one time? And she started talking about how women shouldn't have the right to vote. Women should, like she, and I was like, oh, wow, like, you're getting a little crazy.

Like, she started saying some stuff that was really crazy. And I was like, like, I don't know that that's the route I would go. Like I'm thinking, and for the first time I was thinking, this is going to come back on you. Like, that's, it's, it's, you're pushed, you push the envelope too far, and that's not going to end well for you. And honestly, I don't think I've seen her. It probably, within two weeks, her stuff stopped showing up on my feed. I don't know what happened to her. She's back.

I mean, she's starting to have some things pop up now. It's just Pearl now. And, I mean, that's her, the title was like, her channel was called Pearl. I don't know what it was called before. But I've seen her in my feed over the past couple weeks or so, like doing some more long form content. I think she moved. I think she's out of UK. I think she's here in the States.

I met her once. I spoke to her at... But she's American. She was in the UK? I didn't know that. She was in the UK. Oh, I didn't know that. The whole time.

Yeah. She's a, like, basketball player, like college basketball player. Like, she's like, getting to the pro level. I think she was like, and she was over there in school and playing ball. And then she fell into the space. She was on fresh and fit. And then from there, she saw, you know what I mean? She saw, hey, I see the action.

This is where it's at. Yeah. And then she took off from there. I met her once in Miami, had a quick conversation with her, because, like I said, she was beginning to say wild stuff. I'm like, Pearl, let me ask you a question. I'm like, look, you're amongst friends. We were at a Donovan Sharp event, the VIP area and all that kind of stuff. Like, you cool, but I got to ask you this.

What did you mean by slaves didn't have it that bad? Because she was sitting at a table with a bunch of black guys? Well, just her and I standing there. Oh, I thought you said there were other people. Well, we were in the VIP area, but no one knew what we were talking about. So I'm like, I'm like, I didn't want to, I wasn't trying to make a scene or anything. I could have, because everyone was right there. They'd have been like, yeah, what did you mean?

You know, it would have been one of those kind of things. Like, now I'm just serious. What were you thinking? I had never heard her say that way. Oh, yeah, bro. She brought Fuentes on her podcast in UK. She cleared out. Her team was all black.

They're all like UK black. Like, you know what I mean? Not like American. Like, it's a different thing. And she cleared out her room to bring him in there. And he was saying some very, you know, crazy stuff that's what he does

and I you know I asked her about that and it caused risk within her team obviously but I asked her about it and say hey what did you mean by that like have you looked into this

I'm just curious but then something happened like there was some girl got into the VIP area that wasn't supposed to be there and I had to go put out some fire so I didn't

and then I didn't get a chance to get her answer because I really wanted her answer Pearl I'll find you like I'm going to find that I'm going to get my answer. But she is a sweet person. And I really believe that she's one of those types on YouTube. They're like, I'm going to say and do whatever I got to do to get those views up to get whatever. You know, she can't possibly believe that

slavery was good. Yeah, I think that when you say things, you have to kind of go, you have to kind of put yourself in a position of a politician or a decision maker. How, like, if you believe something, if you're going to spout off something, then you have to kind of take yourself before you say it and say, how would I implement this if I could? Like, should I have, should I hold an opinion that I can't see how you could implement that decision? How can I implicate it? Like if you said, hey, I think that slavery is a good thing. We should bring back slavery. Okay, how do you implement that? Like, if that's truly your belief, how could you implement it? If you sit here and you say, well, there's just, it's just not possible to, then maybe you need to rethink your

position because you can't bring it back. It's not possible. You can't unring that bell, you know? And then how, even if you could, how do you? What are the effects of it with society, within the black community, within people that are mixed within, like, how do you do that? You have to start figuring that out. And then very quickly it breaks apart.

So you think, okay, well, it sounds good, you know, yelling with your buddies or shooting your mouth off with your buddies. You start thinking about it's like, mm, what I had a cousin one time, we were walking around. I was at Coleman, my cousin Reese. I've mentioned Reese everyone's while. Listen, Reese was brilliant. Rees should have been a college professor teaching teaching World War II, all about World War. He could tell you about everything, how many tanks, how many bolts were in him, who manufactured him, how many people died in every battle, when the battles were, everything. He was amazing. But he's addicted to meth.

And I mean, literally, this is a guy who's the whole time while he's incarcerated, can't wait to get out and just do meth. Like, it's not like you went to prison and thought, maybe I could still pull my life together. No, no. I'll get social security now. So I have a full-time income. And I've got an inheritance coming. So I'm going to, here's what I'm going to do. And it's like, oh, my God. I didn't even take the opportunity. Like, I can kick this habit. I'm here. No, he's, no. He's a lunatic. But super smart. And I remember we were walking around one time. He was talking about public schools. And we were talking about public schools. And he was talking about how hungry now

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That's up to your parents. And if they're poor, they don't have that education, then you just don't get it. I'm like, if you can't fucking pull yourself up by your bootstraps, fuck them. And he's like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, yeah, I get it. I said, fuck, I said, plus we need people to work in factories anyway. You could pay them less labor. I said, matter of fact, I said, they're not going to go to school.

You can have them, we can have them doing, uh, working at the age of 11 or 12 or even 10. And he kind of looked at me and I go, use your fucking head, bro. So there's nothing wrong with public schools. Okay. It's the minimum. The minimum. I said, they're not, I said, it's not like the government's saying you can't put your kid in a private school. Right.

We're talking about the minimum. Let these kids know how to read and write and give them history and how the government works. I'm like, and he's like, but anyway, you know, because. You know, while he starts to think about it, and once I kind of laid it out, like, what's going to happen? What is the fallout of that? What kind of society are we going to have? How do you implement that? And what's the fallout?

And then you've got to do it and you go, oh, okay. Well, yeah, you're right. That's a bad idea. Yeah, man. So it's funny, though, back to the red pill thing, it's. Yeah, you got to keep me on topic, bro. I'll take you in a rabbit hole. I know, yes.

That's what the red pill is all about. You want to talk about some deep, deep rabbit holes, bro. but the vast majority of the guys that I talk to they really just want to be the best version of themselves they want to be able to find themselves a good woman so you know you have guys within this space the pickup artists you ever heard of these guys the pickup artists these like the Romeo dudes

these are the dudes to tell anything to talk her out of you know talk her into bed there's like a whole science behind that right you got so you got these guys who do this pickup artist you think to me was hilarious but what they do is based in facts. Like, I look at what they're doing. I'm like, yeah, that works. But the way they break it down, like, it's this nerves have stumbled on to something

and they break it down into someone like me. It's like, bro, just go out there and do it. But is it just lying about like, oh, I've got things. Yeah, just bullshit to get the girl to believe that you're highly successful, you're kicking ass. Tell her what she wants to hear so you can get what you want. That's how I'll pick up artistry is. You know, you can flatter her sometimes that works.

sometimes you treat her like, you know, treat it like shit, right? You might go up to her and say some things to her, just treat it like shit. That might work. You know, just all the different game you've encountered over your lifetime. Yeah. They wrote it all down and they structured it into like this thing. They call PUA, pickup artistry. It's still from this book called Mystery and like this guy named Mystery.

And he wrote this book, Mystery Method. I read the book. And, man, that thing took off like fucking fire. Like you just took off. And these dudes are going out here, approaching women. And you and I both know at the end of the day is just a numbers game. If you talk to 100 women, you're going to get X amount of chicks, period. That's all it is.

That's all it is. Listen, I got to tell you something else real quick. I got to get you off something again. Do you ever listen to the TV show, the radio show where they do, and they do, it's the second chance or second date update or something like that or second? And I've never seen that. Oh, I'm sure I've got it wrong. It's, it's, I want to say it's a country station where they call some, so you went on a date with some chick.

But what, you thought I was listening to this country station, bro? You could be listening to your country. All right. So, um, so you go on a date with some chick. And one of the two of you is texting the other one and just, that's it. You went on one date and then it's over. And you think, you know, let's say it's you. You're like, I've been texting her.

I try to call her. I left the message. I texted her four times. She told me she liked me and wanted to go out. Well, I thought we had a good time. I don't know what's wrong. Ghosted. Yeah, she ghosted me.

And so. They're like, oh, okay. So then they call the girl and they get her on the radio. And then they say, listen. I've seen clips of this. Yeah, we know. I'm sure almost, I'm sure half the radio stations in America do it. And so they do it here.

And so it just so happens that on Jess and I, my wife's name is Jess. So on our way home, we always catch it because we go at the same time and they drag it out over 20 minutes. They talk about, hey, we're going to be doing the second chance update in two minutes. So you know it's coming. So you've got this whole thing. So on the way home, we always catch it. Sometimes we'll sit in the, we'll be sitting in the driveway listening to it. Sometimes Jess will come in.

You'll get halfway through it. She pulls it up on our phone and we'll sit there and listen to it. And then, you know, sometimes we get the whole thing in the car. But the point is, is that we're driving home and this, this chick, they get the girl on the phone. The guy's like, hey, I don't know. I understand. We had a great time. Had a great time, hilarious, made out with her at the car, put her in her car.

I was going back in the bar and put her in the car. because she had to wake up early in the morning and left. And so he's like, I don't know what happened. I've texted her a few times. She's not returned my calls. And so they go, okay, we'll call. They call her. And they go, hey, here's what's going on, blah, boom.

We understand you had a date with this guy, John. And she's like, yeah. She was, God, it was a great day, too. They go, really, she says, oh, my God. She kissed me at the end of the night before I got my car. She goes, I mean, like, butterflies in my stomach, an amazing. The chemistry was overwhelming. They're like, okay, well, what happened?

She goes, well, when he left and I got in my car, I actually sat in my car for like 10 minutes thinking about the kids. That's how good it was. Of course, Lana is on the show. She's like, oh, my God, I totally know what you mean. They're going on. They drag it out. So she's like, yeah, so I got up and I thought, you know what? To hell with getting sleep.

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50% off site wide. Like, I want to spend more time with this guy. I want to see this guy again. I want to see him now. So I get up and I go back into the bar and as I'm walking in the bar, it's been now 10, 15 minutes. She says, as I walk in the bar, I see some. him walk up to some girl and they're like, oh, hey, and they, they smile and they give a hug.

And then he sits down with her. It's clearly like an introduction, like they just met. She was, and I sat there and watched this guy on another date. She was, he had another date set up. He literally, she's like, I had told him I have to leave by nine o'clock. She's like, and this guy set up another date at like 915 or 9.30, whatever it was. And so they get him on. She's like, and I watch it.

It was clearly another day. She's like, I was just the whole thing. And so she's like, so I was so upset. I just left. They were like, you didn't say anything. She's like, no, I couldn't. What am I going to say? I mean, this guy's clearly playing, you know, playing some kind of game.

She said, I got my car. I left. She said, I've been so disappointed ever since. They get the guy on the phone. He's like, they're like, with them, sure there's a reasonable explanation. And he's like, oh, yeah. He's like, listen, I had a great time with you. I thought you were amazing.

And the kiss was amazing. She's like, okay, so who was that girl? He's like, well, I mean, that was another date. I obviously set up another date because, like, I just met you. And he's like, I don't know you. Like, I didn't know what's going to be amazing. Like, trust me, the whole time I was with her, I was thinking of you. Dang.

And I'm laughing my ass off driving down the roads. I'm like, oh, my God. He was, and let's be honest. He was, it's a numbers game. And he said, I mean, he's like, like, I don't have a lot of time off. I told you that. I have a few nights a week. because I also do this and this.

He's like, so I tend to schedule a couple dates. I'm trying to find someone to spend my life with. So he goes through the whole explanation, totally reasonable. I don't know you. We're not dating. It's a numbers game. I'm sorry that maybe, would you have been more happy if I'd gotten my car driven across town and met some girl or if I met her the next day?

Like, what does it matter? I only have a couple days. I didn't know. It's an introduction. Would it be better if I'd met somebody, you for coffee that day and met her that night? Like, come on. So he goes through the whole thing and I'm laughing and I'm like, oh, my God. And the problem is I've actually used it.

There's actually a joke called numbers game. And here's the joke. And I've told this to my wife. There's two guys standing at a bus stop. And a girl walks by. And the one guy says, hey, baby, you want to go back to my place and fuck? And she slaps them in the face and walks off. The guy next to him starts laughing.

Another girl walks by. He goes, hey, baby, you want to go back to my place and screw? she slaps them in the face and walks off. The guy starts laughing. Another girl walks by and he goes, hey, he said, you want to go back to my place and have sex? Boom, she slaps him in the face and walks off. The guy starts laughing, looks at the other guy and says,

man, you must get slapped a lot. He's, yeah, but I get laid a lot too. And that's the bottom line. So I've joked about that with my wife. So I'm in the car with her when he says numbers game. And I'm laughing and I think she's laughing. Colby, she's not laughing. She doesn't find it funny at all.

And I'm like, yeah, I said, this guy's absolutely right. I don't see. I said, I wouldn't be that brazen because I'd be word I would get caught. You know, not that I wouldn't do it, but my concern was I wouldn't want to get caught and be in an awkward situation with two girls standing there. I probably would have scheduled it at another place, maybe down the road, or at another time during the day. I wouldn't have, if I did it just like he did, the only thing I would have done different,

I would have told the girl, the amazing girl, that I got another day. I'd have told her at the beginning of the night, top of the night. Yeah, look, I'm sorry. Not even I'm sorry. Like, hey, what's going on just so you know, blah, blah, blah. I don't let her know. Somehow I'd have worked it in there. I just thought, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I get it. I get it. Like, I don't, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, but you have to understand, like, I'm on a mission here. Like, this is what it is. Maybe it's you. Maybe it's her. I don't know.

But anyway, the point is is that I'm laughing my ass off. I look over at my wife. It's not good, bro. Like the whole way. She was, you would do that. That's something you would do. And I'm like, but I don't, but. I'm like, would, baby?

Something I have done. I didn't do it with you. That's more a game. I didn't do it with you, baby. The whole time I was thinking of you. Nah, bro. And that's the thing. The Red Pill world covers that and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Okay. Like, it covers, like, male dating strategy versus female dating strategy. A lot of women get upset when the female dating strategy is exposed. It's very simple. Women got it easy when it comes to date. What do they have to do? really. It just show up. Somebody's going to talk to him. I don't care how ugly, how crass, how fat, doesn't matter. Some dude is going to talk to her. Right. So long as her lady parts are working, some dude is going to be interested, right? It doesn't work that way with dudes. Most dudes are sexless anyway. Like we're in a professor Scott Galloway talks about this all the time. We're in an era where, you know, you have these sexless, lonely men. And they're not just lonely on a romantic standpoint, but, you know, But they don't have any buddies.

You got guys now walking around, they have zero friends. Everything is online on the screen. Right. And that's bad for your development. That's bad for our society. And it manifests itself in different ways. We're going to get to that a little bit later on in this conversation when we talk about, like the red pill when it comes to politics, right?

So women don't like it. Society doesn't like it. Quit telling these men how to be successful. Like that woman, he's the perfect guy. was a magical kiss. I'm sitting there. All that's her fault. All that's her fault.

She could have said, come on, this is, I'm having a great time. Can we just go somewhere else? And they would have gone on somewhere else and they could have lived happily ever after. More likely, he just would have smashed and moved on to the next chick. But anyway, she could have had a at the fairtale. Well, he seemed taken by her. He's, he's called a radio station to track her down. He's thinking this chick's could be.

So, okay. Maybe they could have had that fairy tale. Yeah, maybe. But she didn't allow it. And then she goes back in, she gets upset. Like, to me, like, he was reasonable. Like, she could have said, okay, you know what, now that you've explained it, that's reasonable. That's gone on another day.

She could have been accepting of that. They don't have a commitment. He should have had a little more dog in him. The fact that she wanted all that, he should have had a little more dog in him. Like, what's good? She wanted to have. The thing with women, this is something that I tell a lot of these guys, not just young guys, older guys, too.

I'm like, women know pretty much the first time they see if they're going to do something with you or not. They know if they're willing to, at the very least, I will. I will bang this dude. Right. If the rest of, if, unless something goes wrong in the next 45 minutes to an hour, I would happen to this guy. If he can keep his foot out of his mouth for 45 minutes to an hour, we're going to do something.

Right. Tonight, you know what I mean? Like, if it doesn't happen that night, it's going to happen within the next couple days. Like, it just, it's going to happen. She wants to have something to him. This dude was on that path. she comes back in and sees him talking to someone and it mess up. It messed up her fantasy.

Yeah. He was still a great guy. It was still a first date. It was a great first date. It's not like she saw the dude making out with the woman and all his other kind of stuff. He was just talking to her. And like he said, he probably was like, I wonder where a little shorty is. Well, even, even like I do believe that he's sitting there talking to this chick thinking,

God, that was an amazing date. I have no doubt about that. But even if she came in and saw him, if she, if her mom, she, she, had the right frame of mind and realized we do not have a commitment. It's okay that he's on a date. I told him obviously got in the car, waited for him to call, gone out with him again. And she could have said, hey, look here. I came back. What's the deal with that? And he could have said, oh, yeah, I did have another date. But look, I really like you. If this works out, I won't see anybody yet. Like, that's a reasonable. That's a reasonable understanding of what

dating is. You can't meet some guy one time and say, oh, from now and you should talk to nobody. You know, she's still talking to people. She's going to go on another date. Exactly. But that's how it works because most dudes don't get that kind of access to begin with. And if she's attractive, that guy would lock in on her and not focus on anyone else while she's still running her rotation. Right. Which, again, this is why a lot of people I believe don't like this red pill content because they're telling guys, don't do that.

I tell dudes all the time, like, bro, that's, again, only thing I would have changed in that situation, I'd have told her up top that I'm seeing. someone else. I'd have figured out a way to get that into conversation straight away. And we would have moved on from there and had a great date. And then I wouldn't have been looking for her on a radio station and all that. Just wait. Just wait. She will circle back, bro. She can find you. She can find your social media. She has your number. All you had to do is wait. It might take two weeks. It might take two years. But eventually, she might circle back. And when she does, you're good. But you never want to be in a position where you're chasing her, like, because it's a rap. If you're chasing,

her. Bro, it's probably not going to go that well. It just isn't. A lot of guys, that's what men are programmed to do. I'm going to chase you. I'm going to romance you. I'm going to take you out on a dinner date with a helicopter and a thousand dollars worth of flowers.

Like, bro, have you lost your head? Mine? You don't bump your head or something, bro? No, we ain't doing that. Take her out for ice cream on the first day. Guys are like, where should I take her? I'm going to take her to She, whatever. No.

She spend all your money. I'm going to take her over here. Like, man, take her out for ice cream, bro. Take her to the park. have a walk. You know what I mean? Don't take a coffee. My big thing was coffee. Like I'm not going to spend and shoot and things have changed because now it's a hundred bucks. But when I got out of prison five years ago, you could

probably get away with 60 or 80 bucks. Now it's easily a hundred bucks and that's if nobody drinks. You're talking about dinner? Dinner. Dinner. It tells them where you go. But yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying like outback someplace. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But still we're talking about almost a hundred bucks. That's if she order food. I order food. We don't have appetizer. Like that's bottom no drinks. Right. So to me, Because I was, when I started, got out and started kind of dating, you know, I was dating my wife.

But when that, we broke up a few times, you know, it was, it was, it was coffee. It was coffee. And your wife was into you and she was okay with that. So a lot of these dudes are chasing women and have no. No, she wasn't. We broke up. But yeah, she would have cut my throat. But still, I heard you're saying, yeah.

But we were broken up. We were broken up. Like, we were broken up. But here's the thing. Y'all back together, right? You are. You know why? And she, of course, is furious that I went on any date.

But do you know why we're back together? Because I went on those dates. Because as soon as it was like, okay, so you're sure about this? Yeah, it's not going to work. We should, okay, we're good. When she started texting, how you doing? We got nothing to say to each other. I was like, we're done.

We're done. And she circled back, just like I said. Absolutely. And you know what I did? I started going on on other dates. Went on, I went on, I didn't go on one dating app. I went on three or four. One, because I got kicked off at two because I'm a felon.

But so I was on multiple They kick you off of being a feller Oh bro, I met this chick We back and forth Back and forth And then we go to meet And on the way to meet We're texting through the app

She says hey can you give me your phone number And I go sure I give my phone number She doesn't show up Within an hour I'm kicked off the app completely She ran you through a thing Took my phone number took my name Ran me through a thing

Found out what my name was Looked me up So this guy's a fucking criminal And they immediately kicked me off the app because I was a criminal. Now, here's, so anyway. You still got a wife. There's dudes out here can't get married.

No, no, then I got kicked off another website because she knew I was on two dating. So she contacts the other one. So she's now systematically going through and doing a squirt earth policy, I guess me. So my point is, is that, but I kept dating because that's just who I am. So I kept dating. But because I kept dating and I had those options, it gave me the confidence that when I met some chick, I don't come off date, I don't come off desk. I don't come off.

It doesn't matter if this works out or not. I can just be comfortable and calm and everything. I know because I've got a date in three days. So, you know what I'm saying? So I know what you're saying. It's like, to me, it is a numbers game. It's, you know, I'm going to set up as many dates with as many women as I possibly can that are reasonably, that are decent looking.

And I'm going to date those women. And one of them will rise to the top. Only tens, my friend. I tell dudes that too. If you're going to go out there, only tens. The reason is the version of a 10 and my version of a 10 is probably vastly different. Well, here's the thing, so long as you believe that's the 10. Whatever that is in your world, only go after the best, right?

And guys are like, well, well, they're harder to talk to. They're easier to talk to. You'll find out what I'm talking about when you start talking to them. Yeah. Right? And because confidence is the key, like you said. Listen, most tens have less going on up here. They've gotten away on their, they've gotten along on their looks most of their life.

Yeah, yeah. Which is sad. It is a little bit sad. But hey, man, the game is a game. It is a cold game, bro. It is what it is. So if that's what you want, and it teaches you things, go after the tens so you can see and find out for yourself what you just say it right there.

They're not really worth it. No. And they're a pain in the ass. Right. And now you know what you're really looking for in a woman. And there's so much to this. A lot of guys are like, well, I want to go out here because they just really want. Not just sexual contact, but contact with women.

They want to be able to have a conversation. Right. They don't know these things. We know this. Just from watching your history and what you would. doing you've always had no problems talking to women no never and which is sad because i've i've always dated i've always dated above what i should be dating at just because i'm just because i'm smooth and look according to that little that little app bro like i'm not six foot tall i'm not

making 300 000 a year i'm not making like you go through that app it's like i i don't check any of those boxes you know the only thing i check is is i am able to go up with confidence And, hey, what's going on? Because that's all it takes. You know who taught me that? My buddy, David Simpson. When he was locked down? No, no.

When I was like, when I was, how old was I? He was like 15 or 16 and I was like 17. This guy, this is, oh God, Colby, this is so old, so long ago. This was social media. Social media when I was growing up, how old are you? 53. Okay. When we were growing up, do you remember you would go to like a strip mall?

And guys would get in their cars and they would just circle. and circle. Yeah, on the strip. Yeah, on the strip. And all the high schools would come there and girls would stand around and guys would say they'd have, you know, they'd, if it was McDonald's, they'd be in the parking lot, if it was whatever, you just drive your car, circle, circle, circle. And I had a buddy named David Simpson.

And David Simpson, one time we're driving. And he literally, we're talking about it. He's like 15, 16 years old. I think he might have been 16, whatever. He, boom, pops the door, jumps right out of the car. Like he's like, oh, stop, stop, I'm like, I barely even stop the car. he jumps out walks up to this chick walks right her and her four girlfriends walks right up boom he said hey my name's david simpson he said what's your name and the girl's like um jennifer he's like hey jennifer

i just i saw you i'm driving by he's like you're beautiful i don't know if i don't know if you have a boyfriend or anything if you don't can i get your can i get your phone number and she was like yeah okay and she gives him the phone number and he's like okay thanks i'm sorry i'm both my buddy i got to go but i'm going to call you and she's like okay gets in the car driving I don't know, David Simpson got fucking five or six numbers that night at least. I was terrified, terrified to walk up to a world. And you had the car. I had the car.

And I was telling him, like, when he got in by the third one, I was like, bro, aren't you afraid like she's going to laugh at you or tell you? He's like, and he was like, oh, yeah, sometimes they laugh. Yeah, sometimes they, this. He's there, they'll say something like, I have a boyfriend or I'm not interested or. And I'm like, well, what are you? And he goes, man, I don't, I don't know her. I've never seen that girl before. I'll never see her again if I don't call her.

And he goes, if she laughs at me, he goes, I don't care. It's like, bring nobody shooting this. They ain't pinning us. They're throwing back to that's right. What are you talking about? But, you know, I was so insecure. Look, it took another three to six months of hanging out with this dude to realize it doesn't matter. It doesn't.

Like, and you, especially if you expect it. If you expect them to kind of to go, I have a boyfriend. You go, my bad, totally sorry. You're very pretty. Sorry to bother you. And walk away. Fine. You haven't done anything wrong.

You're okay. And guess what? That woman, that young girl, will circle back one day. Yeah. Because it's the confidence. And this is another thing. So, like, there are a whole bunch of different colored pills out there. You're probably not aware it is.

So you got the red pill. You heard about that. They're just talking about dating, talking about fitness, finance, but mostly how to date, how to get women. Then you have the black pill. Right? The black pill of those guys, the gloom and domers. you would be a black pillar if it weren't for your friend

that was riding with you in a car. If you never learned that lesson at 15, you never would have been able to speak to women. You would have worked hard and all that kind of stuff, but you would have struggled with women because you didn't learn that early on, right? And the black pillars are like,

because I'm not six feet, because I don't make six figures, because I'm not in shape, because I'm not funny, women are never going to want me. Women only want this type of dude. They're not going to talk to any other dude. If they do, they're just using that guy for his resources and his time and for validation and blah, blah, blah, blah.

It's just gloomers, black pill guys. I'm always talking to these black pill guys, like, bro, you just sound like you quit. Like, I don't know what that means. Like, when I do my podcast, there's an airborne flag on the wall behind me because I used to be a paratrooper. Right. And they were like, well, what do you do, you know, don't you just give up after a while? I'm like, you see that flag behind me, bro. That means we don't give up.

I'm airborne, man. I don't know what quit means. you'll quit her, bro. Like, stop being a quitter and maybe you'll find some success. Your man never quit. Yeah. Just kept going, right?

Yeah, back to a numbers game. It may not have worked with that chick. That's fine. There will be another one. She's probably perfect for someone else. And like you said, maybe she'll come back around. I'm not concerned about it. And because mentally, he's not concerned,

there's a better chance she does come back around, right? She's going to come back around because she, women want confident men, period. Doesn't matter, like, you know, being six feet, and being fit and having the jaw line and all that other BS, like having the jeans, all that's good, but it's not required. No, no, you don't, listen, that's like saying, so some guy who says, oh, well, you're five foot six, that's it, you'll never get a, you'll never get a girl.

That's not true. That's not true at all. That's not true. I know some, bro, you're not a tall dude, but like I said, you've had, you've had your share. Not only that, I make fun of the fact that I'm not. Like, I'm self-effacing. Like, I know what it is. I joke about it.

My wife jokes about it, you know, like my friends joke about it. Like, I'm not walking around like it's with a chip on my shoulder. Like, that's what it is. Listen, I had a, my dad one time when I was a kid, something had happened and I forget what it was, but I was talking about I wanted to get, be taller. Like, well, when am I going to? I'm like, 14.15. I want to be a baller.

I want to be taller. Yeah. When am I going to, like, when am I hitting my next growth spurt? And he's like, oh, yeah, you're done, son. Gross spurt. Like, my dad's like 5, 9, 510. And my mom's like 5, 5, 2. he's like, I'd say that you're probably, you're probably at the end of your gross spurt right now.

Like, you're there, sunny boy. Yeah, that's it. And I was like, and I was upset. Like, I wanted to be taller. I thought I would be at least as tall as you. He's like, it doesn't work out like that. He's like, your grandfather was like five foot three. And I was like, huh?

He's like, yeah. And he sort of started naming. And my mother was this tall. And he's like, I'm lucky. I'm as tall as I am. So he has this whole conversation with me. And I was like, I was so upset. And he was like, look, and it was about girls.

And he was like, you're just going to have to work a little harder. That's all. Like, that's it. He's like, you're just going to have to work harder. Like, there was no, you're special. Right. Your, there was no placating me. He's like, you're just going to have to work harder.

That's it. You've got other, you have other skills. You'll have to tune those other skills. And I think he said something about, because this is something that used to, they used to always say, which probably isn't true. Where they were like, if you lose your sight, then your ears get more. It's probably bullshit. But he was just saying you just have to work on the things that you're stronger at. He's like, you'll find somebody, it will happen, it will work, you're smart, you're personable, you'll be fine, it'll be fine, toughen up.

Rub some dirt in it. Rub some dirt in it. And then you met your homeboy. Yeah. And you had a car. I mean, come on, bro. Like as a kid with a car back in it, I mean, when we were coming up, I mean, bro, you were 90% there because you got a vehicle. That'll get you on just that by itself.

There was the one coming. He has a car. Well, I was in an upper middle class neighborhood, so everybody had a car. Man, I was in the hood. Bro, we ain't had no vehicle. I had to walk to the strip. I had to walk back, bro. We're talking, you know, five, six miles at least.

Uphill both ways. Bro. They wouldn't uphill both ways, but, you know, they were shooting that. It's like it was like we had to roll through some bad neighborhoods. So it's like, bro, not all the time, but just airing out on it. But, um, no, bro, but that's the, that's the whole gist with that red pill world. And then, like I said, the black pill guys are the guys who have given up.

No matter what I do, I'm never going to be able to get a woman. I'm never going to be able to do this. I'm never going to be able to do this. I'm never going to be rich. I'm never going to. Not with that attitude. Exactly. Gloom and dooms.

And they want, you know, you got these, these worlds, these bubbles are coming together. So you got people like me and you saying, bro, that doesn't, come on, you're proof that you don't have to be whatever. Yeah. Right. I'm proof that you don't have to be whatever. You know, they're like, well, you get this and this and this. I'm like, bro, let's talk about the shit I didn't have. Let's talk about the things I had to overcome just to get to this point.

Right. And I'm like, if I had your attitude, bro, I never would have got to that point. So, no, everyone has to do work. Right? Even the guys that are the chads or whatever, the dudes who do really well with women, bro, out of ten, they might get three women, four, but they're not getting 50%. Even those dudes got to work at it. You know, as opposed to a woman. If you're just a beautiful woman, like, bro, opportunities are coming your way. If you're a beautiful woman, dudes are going to be hitting you up, especially now in this digital world. Hey, would you like to go on my yacht? Hey, would you like to fly on my private plane? Hey, would you like to come? come to this grand opening and this, you know, say whatever.

Hey, would you, that's just the life of being a woman, a woman. The dating apps, I tell dudes all the time, don't get on dating apps. Don't do it. The fact that you were able to get on dating apps and even have women willing to, you know, holler at you, that puts you at the upper echelion of guy. Because most dudes gets terrible results on dating apps. There's so many videos on it when you can actually see in real time how hard it is for a guy to get a date. It's swiping.

It's, it's extremely. extremely depressing, but the fact is, is that what you, the great thing is that it's like, you know, boom, looks good, boom, looks good. But I had a cut and paste strategy where I went when you cut me. I mean, like, I had a thing. I'd cut pace, cut pace. I even had a chick tell me one time. She's like, is this a cut and paste? Right. Yes. And I was like, well, I mean, part of it, I think I changed your name. I did change this one thing. And I've, you know, and, you know, just being honest. That's just, that's just, it's a numbers game. It's just strategy. Slam, slam, slam. You, you hit up 30 of them. three of them come back one of them ends up being a fucking date after after two days of going back and forth that's it that chick falls apart that that doesn't work but if you do that twice a week in a month you got some girl that's not that won't leave you alone and she wants to fucking she's in love with you and thinks you're the most amazing guy like this isn't difficult it's not but for people who've never done it they just don't understand it and I think when you have the guys are actually in a red pill and they start doing the work and they see how easy it really is they get upset again They do that. Like, damn it. I was it all this time I could have been doing this.

They get kind of frustrated, you know what I'm. But they keep doing it. It's like, bro, it's just numbers, man. And keep in mind what I was telling these checks, too, by the way. I'm not lying to them. No. I just got out of federal prison. I'm driving a vehicle that's 10 years old.

I'm staying in someone's spare room. I'm rebuilding my entire life. Would you like to meet for Starbucks? Okay. And I'm old. And I'm an old man. Of course, the pictures on there look damn good because I was in great shape at that time. I was just getting 10, 15 pounds lighter.

Like, I looked fucking, was good. You just got out of the joint. But you know how to communicate with folks. And then when they meet you, I'm sure the conversations were great. Some of them were. Some of them weren't. Some of them I didn't tell them. I wasn't super honest up front.

Like I was just like, oh, I'm doing that. You know, you don't answer some of those questions super directly up front. So when you meet them, you say, look, I need to go ahead and tell you this. You tell them some of those conversations went bad. I mean, I had some bad ones, bro. I would have started with, well, did I, did I? tell you, I was on TV. No, I would have started.

I was at, I went to, one time I was at the Capitol Grill. You know, Capitol Grill, they do the hot dogs, right? Yeah. Is it hot dogs? No, Capital Grill is a steakhouse. No, no, no. This is Capitol Taco, Capitol Taco. Okay, yeah.

Two different places, bro. I'm sorry, we were getting tacos. Capital Grill average is probably like $150 or $300 a person. Listen. Are you in there, bro? No. This is capital taco. They did a little taco, amazing tacos.

And we met there. And when I started, when I explained to her that I just got out of prison and I said that it had been, she was like, well, she got loud. What do you mean you just got out of prison? Like people at the other fucking table. And I'm like, well, I mean, it's been about, you know, it's like six months. I'm doing this. And, you know, I'm kind of starting my life over again.

I'm this and that. I just want to be very upfront with you. I had told you to start with the crime you committed first. Because when you say, I just got out of prison. You're thinking the worst. We were there within a minute or two. And I was like, it's not a big deal. It's not like I was driving around with a body on the back of my car.

I said, I said, it was bank fraud. It's not that big deal. She's like, well, how long did you do? And I went, and I think I rounded down. I was like 12 years. And she was like, 12 years. She's like, they don't put you in prison for 12 years because it's not a big deal. And I, people are like looking.

And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, like, I need to get that taco to go. Like, Ben, you had a taco. I'm out of here. And she starts telling me about her son had gone to prison and how, what did you? Oh, my God. Like, this is a big deal. Oh, her son went to prison? Is he giving you a hard time?

And she's upset with me. And her son was like a lunatic. He burglarized places and everything. We had, listen, we had a 20, 30 minute conversation. And she's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that. I'm not sure about this. And I was like, listen, there are two kinds of people.

I said there are those people that are 100% acceptance of the person I was and the person I am today. And there are those people that can go fuck themselves. And she's like, well, I just. don't think I can be okay with that. I said, it sounds like you just put yourself in a category. Bye. Yeah. Got my car and left. And then she's texting me. She kept texting me. No, here's what's funny about this. Listen. So I'm like, listen, so we're texting. I go, are you? So do you want to go out again? And she's like, no, I just want to explain myself. I go, we got nothing to talk about. So there's no reason for us to ever text again. You've made your

decision. I'm good with it. I'll find someone that is okay with with the person I am. She's cool, I'm sorry I had to work out this. I'd be, yeah, yeah, well, good luck to you. Guess what? Jess and I break up, oh, she doesn't know any of this. Well, she, I don't think she watches the program. So, like, I'd say we break up like a year later. Jess and I break up a year later, I go back out with the girl.

Circle back. All right, man, keep trying to tell you, bro. See what I'm saying? I know. And she had texted me. I know. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like he discovers fire and shows it it burns. I know. It's insane. I gave it to you. Yeah. What are we doing here? Felt like she'd been too rash. You know, you're a little bit nice guy.

Bro, they circle back. And that is the game. Not all of them, but some. No, someone can't track you down. Exactly. Some go home and two weeks later, they realized they fucked up and didn't get your number. And they go, they will hover around those places that you took them and places you said you like to go. Bro, I've bumped into so many women.

on the circle back, thinking it was random, like, no, they were lightweight stalking me. They were going to the places that they knew I would frequent, and eventually they caught me there. You're not hard to find. You're on YouTube. Well, it was before YouTube. Okay. It scared me. I ain't going to lie.

It was in L.A. Like, how hell did you find me? Yeah, you know. But women, when women want you, they lock in, they come for you. And this is another thing. I've been standing outside your apartment for two weeks. We had to bump into each other eventually. Eventually.

Oh, my God. Yeah. I don't even know whose dog this is I'm holding. You stole someone with dog. So, but the thing is, when guys begin to see this, they're like, wow. Like, I didn't think this was possible. There are dudes out there to tell you, like, there's no way you, Matt, Matthew Cox, can get a beautiful woman because you're not six feet or you did this, blah, blah, blah.

And you're like, bro, here's my history. I'm married now, but here's my history. You know what I, pick one. Right. They're like, no, you really were with these women? Like, yeah, bro. So don't be mad at me because I did the work and you chose not to. And when it's not a, chasing women is time consuming, but it's not difficult.

It just takes a lot of time. I tell the guys, you look better chasing a career. You look better chasing money, establishing yourself more because you can't really do both well. Right. If you're trying to chase women and you're trying to build a business, something's going to suffer. because women need a lot of attention. Well, I was going to say, if you, look, I think the guys that I know when I talk to the, because here's the thing, when I started going on the podcast, right, this was before

we had a channel, right? Guys were in the comment section wanting to talk to me. Bro, could I talk to you? I would, could you mentor me? And I'm thinking to myself, I'm living in someone's spare room. What mentor you on what? Like, I'm not going to talk to you about fraud. I'm not, but there were young guys.

in their early 20s, how do I do this? How do I do that? How do I make money? I don't have a girlfriend. I don't, I have never dated. Like, they're telling me, I'm getting up. And then I would get on the phone with them and talk to and be like, this is insane, the things that they're saying. And there were tons of them. And I didn't, it took another year or so before I realized, before I started watching like Jordan Peterson and watching some of these guys on YouTube and realizing like, oh, this isn't a few lonely guys. This is a full-blown epidemic that's happening. It's the vast majority of you, man. If I were to make up numbers, I would say this, it's 80% of dudes.

That's insane. 80% of dudes today are just lost, man. They're just because your dad told you, what's your dad tell you? What's your dirt on it, man? It is what it is. You ain't going to get any taller. No, you can't have any elevator shoes. Get outside and do your thing.

Right? So it's one of those kind of things. Now, people are raised with, they don't have both parents in the home. God knows what the one parent is saying, just saying whatever they need to say so if they can say anything because they're working constantly and all that kind of stuff, you know. So these guys have lost. A lot of disenfranchised. Right.

And no one cares. That's another thing, too. Nobody has any sympathy for them. No one gives a shit about male problems. Right. You know, you look at the self-deleasing rate. It's up there. It's crazy.

You look at the underemployed and unemployed. Right? You look at, you know, colleges. Who's in college right now? It's not dudes. It was almost two to one women, you know, in complete college. So no one cares. These dudes are invisible.

Most people don't see them. You and I see them because we're looking for threats, but the average woman, they don't see these dudes. And I tell these guys all the time, like, you don't have to be invisible. You can bring yourself out of that invisible 80 world, right? Because I always break it down, like, you know, like the 80-20 rule. I'll say that women find basically 20% of men attractive, those are the guys that they see.

Right. So you look at whatever podcast, you know, you look at Fresh and Fit. You look at Michael Sertana Rollo's Access Vegas. They'll have these women on the platform. for him. And all these women describe the same type dude. It's because that's all they see. They don't see the guy dropping fries at McDonald's. They don't see the guy, you know, stocking the shells at CVS. They don't see the dude out there picking up the trash or sweeping the streets. They don't see them. They only see the dudes with the Lamborghini. You know,

they only see the dudes with the alpina. They only see the dudes. They're getting bottle service and all that kind of stuff. They only see the dudes who are fit. Right. So, and you can break down the numbers, you know, people, they get mad about that. You know, It was the 80-20 rule, and there'll be people in probably on this one in the chat. High chat. They'll probably be in the chat. 80-20 rule is bullshit. Da-da-da-da.

I use 80-20. You can say 90-10. Use any numbers you want. A very small minority of men are getting the vast majority of women because the women want those guys. So I tell the dudes in the bottom, do to work. And then women will see you. Simple as that. Yeah, I was going to say the problem is I think that the guys that are in the 80% think,

well, I'm stuck at the 80%. You don't have to be stuck. of the eight first of all but it's the same thing with like employment like i'll talk to guys you're like we can't find a job or i can't well wait a minute i know what you do for every day by the way i know that you smoke pot throughout the entire day i know that you spend almost six to eight hours playing video games and i know that maybe you put in a couple applications here and there and i know that the applications you're putting in are for jobs that pay 25 or 30 an hour and the truth is you're not a 25 or 30 an hour guy you know what you will

You're an entry level $14 or $15 an hour guy That in two years from now Is making $30 an hour And that's gonna say that Right, you did $14 an hour today Right, but they don't want to take that job They don't want to do that

I'm better than that But guess what, you're not better than that You're not You're you smoke All you do is smoke pot and play video games Get a fucking job Stop playing video get, throw Take your thing and throw it out

Stop, stop smoking pot Put that money in the bank Save money Make it a game to save money money, work your ass off, get two jobs, get a job and a part-time job if that's all you can do. And guess what? Well, yeah, but I can't quite get the hours to work. Fine.

Work three days. And when you can't make that other day, quit or get fired. Get another fucking part-time job. Like, you'll figure, you'll get one eventually. It's easier to get a job, just like with a girlfriend. It's easier to get another job when you have a job, even if it's a shitty job. Yeah. It's easier.

You have a girlfriend. It's easier to get, every time I've ever had a girlfriend. women are falling out of the sky. But when you don't have a girlfriend, that's when it's more difficult to find a girlfriend when you don't have one. Not impossible, more difficult. So, wake up at 5 in the morning,

start working out, go to your job, go to your second job, save all your fucking money, stop watching sitcoms, stop smoking pot, stop playing video games. And I'm guaranteeing six months from now,

you're in great shape, you look good, you're super confident, you've got a little bit of money in the bank. and I probably have a girlfriend. Come in soon, guys, R.P. Matt. Come in soon. Because that's all their day is right there.

That is pretty much what that world encompasses. The Manosphere, Mano Swamp, whatever you want to call it, the Red Pill world. That is men trying to help other men get better. Now, are there some bad actors? Yes. Are there some, you know, Charleston's out there, scammers out there? Yes. You hit already.

When you first started, people were hit. you up wanting to pay you to talk to you to mentor them and all that there are people out there are gladly taking money yeah and all they'll do is they'll get a transcript of what you just said a moment ago and charge somebody a hundred hours an hour and just read that transcript to them yeah right so are there people out there willing to take your money yes men in our society are the batteries that drive our society our society is going to come apart because men are sexless and lonely. It's just a matter of time, in my opinion. This is not

going to go well for America if we don't solve for this problem. We're taking care of women. We're taking care of, you know, black people. We're taking care of the LGBT community. We're taking care of Asians. You name the subgroup and we're taking care

of them, but we don't give a shit about men, in particular white men. Like, we don't care. They're placating to 1% of society at the expense of 99 or let's say all if it's just men at 50% of society right so and it's and you need those men to drive this society i tell dudes all the time like bro you a battery just like in the movie the matrix you are shoved in the machine and you are the battery that drives this matrix now

when i talk red pill stuff i just tell dudes this i say look i'm not telling you what to do with your life i'm just telling you how the game is played this is what's up this is what you're up against, right? Take this information and do with it what you will. But don't come back crying to me. Like, if you get married to some woman that you met in the strip club, she's a stripper with three kids by four different dads. Yeah, three kids, four dads figure that one out. Right. And she, you marry her and she divorces you and takes half your shit. Whose fault is that? Right. Bro, that's not her fault for playing her game. That's your fault for falling for it. Right. None of those

kids are yours and you're paying child support for all of them. You and some ghost dude out there, like, you know what? He's like, come on, bro. So when I give these talks and when I talk to these guys, this is, I'm just telling you how the game works. Don't get mad at me because your girlfriend fell for some dude's game. And she went home with some dude. So many women are like, oh, my God, you're such a nice guy. And he's such a nice guy. I'm not going to have for him for like six months. but the douchebag she meets at the bar she pounds that night in the parking lot in his Jeep right that's the red pill truth and that's what like which guy would you rather be and then the guy's like well i don't want to marry a woman if she's that easy i'm like bro i'm afraid most of them are man i'm sorry i just hate me the one to tell you this with a few drinks and and the right game we're human man yeah it is what it is i'm not i'm not making judgment i'm not saying she's this or she's that i'm just saying like what you just said right there with a few drinks and at the and she And you didn't put your foot in your mouth, bro, it's probably going to go that way.

Now, does that mean she's going to be a horrible mom, a horrible wife and all this? No, it doesn't. But you need to be cautious. Yeah. You need to vet. You have to take your time and figure out who she really is. We all make mistakes. Yeah.

Right. So that's another thing. But these guys get locked in. It has to be this way. Myron Gaines said this. You know, Rollo Tomasi said that. It's in the rational mail. That's Rollo Tamasi's book, by the way.

Rational Mail. Rolo did not pay me to say that. but like so but that's i mean a lot of men read that book and there's a lot of guys who credit the fresh and fit podcast rollo tamasi um and some others like rich cooper they credit those guys for still being here a lot of guys are like bro i'm about to end this i can't take this anymore i'm losing i'm never going to win but then they'll watch a podcast or they'll read a book and they'll go one more day and i'm not just saying that making it up. I mean, I've, I've been standing there, listening to the guys talking to Myron

or talking to Justin Waller. You might not know who he is. He's down with Andrew Tate. He's part of that clan, real good dude. We were on a boat. Some kid walked up to Justin was talking to him. You know, and Justin's very southern gentleman well-dressed, and not like me. Like, the way I look like a pauper compared to the way he dresses. Like, he's that guy. Like, he's always on point. Real cool guy business, dude. This guy comes up. up, Justin always talks to you, no matter what. Guys wearing, like, t-shirt and some shorts or whatever, completely, like, bro, why are you wearing that, whatever?

But he comes walking up, and the guy's like, Justin, Matt, you know, can I say something to you, please? Yeah, brother, what was going on? So he must have talked to him for 30, 45 minutes. And I can hear bits and pieces of the conversation. And the guy was just like, it's because of you, I got off the sofa. It's because of you, I stopped playing video games. It's because of you, I started my first business.

he was like, bro, I just, I can't thank you enough. I don't know how to thank you. And bro, he says something. He got real soft and I can see the tears coming. He was like, bro. And I'm, I could be wrong here, but I believe he told Justin that he was going to end it. Right. But he's like, because of you, I'm still here.

Right. And I've seen guys talk to myron about this. I've seen the messages, you know, these guys come up. Like, they are doing some good. is there some bad out there? Yeah. There's some bad out there. But I think it's like anything, you can't, you know, you cannot, you cannot take every single thing.

Because fresh and fit and Andrew Tate and, you know, like, like I said, I'm at Tate, by the way. It's a cool guy. Like 90%. I'm good on 80 to 90%. But when they, you know, then they've got the whole going off on, you know, you can have seven. babies' mamas or wives or whatever you want to call as long as you can afford them. Well, you can. But I mean, I understand.

I mean, to me, I'm like, no. Like, first of all, if you have children with those women and those children know that you're not true to their mother, I think there's going to be animosity there. I also don't think that that's what this country, I think this country was built on Christian values. A man and a woman, you have two or three kids. raise those kids. You know, that's what...

Nuclear family. Exactly. Exactly. Take that guy over there. Right. That's, and that's what I think this country is founded on, and it's how it's worked. So to say, hey, I'm going to have, you know, six wives and have kids with all of those wives. And, well, I can afford them, and they know what they signed up for.

And it just doesn't work like that. Like, in the end, that system just breaks down very quickly. Now, I agree with you, but let me say this. Okay. That's the game. and my thing is I'll tell like hey man if you want to do that and you can afford to take care of your children

you have the money and you have such game you can convince four or five women to have the easy part bro that's horrible that's the easy part unfortunately that's the easy part getting the women well that's because if you have enough money then they're willing to do whatever

it's always going to be that same yeah but I agree with you is it this country was founded on a nuclear family and the further we get away from that the more trouble we seem to have You know, when you look at it, the blue pill is typically more liberal folks. And then the red pill seems to be more conservative when you get out there and actually start looking at it.

And when you look at young men and women today, the vast majority of women are what, liberal? The vast majority of young men now are what? Conservative. Not even not just conservative, but like MAGA, which I'm not a fan of. But you got people who are like way over there. And they're like, the red people. is bad because it's making these dudes do this. It's like the red pill, that community is the only place these guys can get help.

That's the only place these guys can go and folks are actually talk to them and listen to them. I was in Clearwater. This was a couple years ago when I first moved here, maybe three years ago. My cousin's been here forever. We watch football at this place Clearwater. And we're in there and I'm just kind of chilling, places, packed, you know, and it's mostly white folks. And there's maybe four, maybe six black people in there. Me, my cousin, and four of the people.

We all know who we, we all know each other. And then everyone else is white. No problem. Everybody's good people. There's this guy that's weirdo dude. White dude with a beard. This is like at the height of mega stuff. So I'm like, this is one of those guys.

You know what I mean? I kind of got one eye on him because he doesn't fit. Like, why is he here? He doesn't fit. And I see him go to one group of people, white folks. They shun him and he goes over to the bartender, really cool bartender says something the bartender kind of runs him off

and then he winds up close to my cousin like just outside the door talking to my cousin I'm not worried about my cousin my cousin's 6-4 you know what I mean like what is he 260 now like I ain't worried about him we come from the same place so the guy's talking to my cousin I got you know keep one eye on the situation

and then my cousin hugs the dude and the dude goes away so I go out like yo what was that bro he was like man that guy just walked away crying like why what you do to him like nothing he was he thanked me for spending time and talking to him he was like no one he's like no one would talk to me in there and I don't have any friends my cousin bought him a beer he was like just what's up with you bro just talk to the guy the guy talked to my cousin for whatever however long that was and just broke

down in tears and walked away and I'm like there are so many guys out there like that right now They don't know how to communicate They don't know how to interact with humans For whatever reason This dude is way too old to be a computer guy But this guy is out there Probably some sort of nomad He's just out there

Probably saying the wrong things of folks And I'm gonna keep it 100 This dude probably a little bit racist I ain't gonna lie He just had that look to him I ain't gonna lie to you bro Yes, we can tell What does that look like?

Like a little I mean When he walked in He walked by a couple of the black folks and just like no eye contact like the facial I'm thinking he might have been a little racist right

I could be wrong I could be wrong I'm not a guy to points to every white person like racist racist racist racist but I pay attention to shit so here's a guy that couldn't get love from his own people so to speak and the only person showed him love with some black guy who he may or may not have been

told or bad or whatever and the guy just broke down it just to me I'm like that's the only thing to make sense the one person here that shows you love is the one person you were told to hate right and he walks away crying he's like all messed up or whatever and again i could be wrong on the rest of his part but he did walk away in tears and all he wanted to do was talk to people and he got an opportunity he just wanted human connection there's tons of dudes in the red pill world that that's all they want and who's giving them that love is coming from a conservative side right it's not coming from

the mainstream media blue pill stuff no because they that especially if you're a white male, they hate you. Especially if you're a white male. Well, you know, I'm doing some bad shit, but I'm just saying. Yeah. The things that I'm not saying. So I was going to say, you go to the liberals and it's like, like, immediately, like, you're white, you're supposed to be successful.

You're supposed to, like, everything is your fault. Anything that's going wrong. It, like, it's amazing how they've made. made it perfectly mainstream to be to show prejudice towards white men yeah and so yeah so i mean i can see why that pushes that you know what reminds me of it's just funny um because it's kind of the same thing is uh it's like in the muslim countries right like you cover the women you cover their faces up you don't let them drive you don't let them own property you don't necessarily let them um read or whole jobs or that sort of thing. And, you know, here's the other than just human rights violations.

Here's the other problem is that that's half your geniuses. That's half your workforce. That's half your engineers. You're like, you've just put yourself at such a disadvantage of just in general, your economy, politics, your world, your leadership or your leadership ability in the world. Like, you've really, really cuts yourself your Achilles heel and trying to run a race. Like, that's a major mistake. Little Sarah right there that you don't want to educate is the girl who's going to cure cancer, but she's not going to do it because you won't let her. Of course not.

Now she's done. She's done. She's out of that race. She's out of that race. But then you say then you take liberals. It's funny, though, they're all like, they all think that all, you know, all whites are racist and it's okay to hate. right. Like, I find when you talk to a liberal that they're, the majority of them have extremely racist points of view. And yet, they'll tell you they're that they're fighting racism.

But you want to segregate colleges. You want to segregate workforces. You want to segregate housing. You want to segregate. You want to have special laws for, for separate races. You want to, like, are you, like, everything you're saying is discriminatory. Right. Everything is nuanced and everything. I mean, like when we look at housing, right, it's like, you're right. It's like, well, D.L. Saint gets a break on this house because I'm black. And you don't get the same break because you're white. But when we look at housing, you're like, well, there's something behind that.

You know what I mean? Like, you go back far enough. You're like, well, there's something behind that. I think there may have been. There was. Right. And I get your point. Like, the job that I have, I'm a retired Air Traffic Controller, I got that job because of a program, two programs through the, a

government. One was for African-Americans and others for vets. And that's how I got my opportunity that led to my career and led to me being retired today. Without those two programs, I wouldn't have gotten hired. I mean, it's just being honest. And obviously, I could do the job. So I was more than qualified for the job and all that kind of stuff. So I'm agreeing with you, like, it's some of it's, a lot of it's overboard. You know, you're going to have black folks to be like, so, look what our people went through. And you know what I mean? I mean, that's what you get. But it's like, it's still wrong.

Yeah. It's still wrong. Like, it's wrong, but I understand it. But politically, especially with liberals, I live in California for like 20, 25 years. Some of the most racist people I've ever met my life in Hollywood. You want to talk about, at least in Georgia, someone will say something and they'll like, I'm sorry. We didn't know any better.

We shouldn't use that word, should we? And I'm not even talking about the N-word. Just like, we shouldn't say this that way. You know, you can still have a relationship with some of these people. Some of these people, you can't do anything about it. You know, I got friends in L'Aanto, Florida, bro. Like, you've been up to Likanto? You've been up to Likanto?

I don't know where that is. Oh, it's North of here, bro. That's all you need to know. It's north of here. And I've had some conversations up there, but guess what? At their core, good people. And then they'll come and ask real questions. You got to, as a black guy, I got to be open to allow my friends to ask.

me questions because they have they just don't know certain things like because they some of them they've never even been around black folks outside of work like we're talking about just interacting and being friends with black people a lot of them never even have done that before so I can't be like oh you racist son of a I got to sit back and listen to them and say no this is why like you said I wouldn't say it that way because of this I would say it this way now if you continue to say it this way after I don't talk to you about it that means you are purposely saying this shit and we're going to have to have a real conversation. Did you just threaten me?

Yes, I didn't. And it's like, okay, you know what I mean? So you got that kind of thing. Like, for me, race is crazy because I don't want to eliminate people, but we do have to talk about stuff. So it's kind of hard to find that middle ground. But California, I've never, bro, in L.A. on Sunset Boulevard, bro, I can't tell you how many times this has happened.

You see how I dress. You see how I carry myself. I'm in the bar just hanging out. Some girl walks up cutie. Bad little chicks. Oh, okay. She ready. She ready to holly.

You know what I'm going to get me. Okay. All right. All right. She come up to me. She says, I'm sorry. And I know I'm not supposed to ask you this.

But do you have drugs? You know, what's really tough is when he said she comes up to me. And I thought she thinks you're a drug dealer. See? before you ever said that. And that's just keeping it 100. I didn't think that would happen in California in Hollywood. I'm like Beverly Hills.

I'm on sunset on the Beverly Hills side. I didn't think that would happen. And it's happened in Malibu to me. It's happened in Bel Air. It's happened in Studio City. Wherever I go, if I'm the black dude in the room, people come up and ask me for drugs. It's like, this is some racist ass shit. This is Callie.

This is Callie. It never happened. in Cincinnati. It never happened when I was down here, like in Miami. It never happened to in Dallas. It never happened to me in any other major city only L.A. And I'm like, all right. So, I mean, it is what it is. But when we break it all the way down. Is it possible that most drug dealers are black and that she's just honing in on that? Not in L.A. bro. No? No, not in Hollywood. Most of the drug dealers are, you know, Trevor and Hunter. They walking around. Hey, come on, man. It's Hollywood.

Look, the white boy's got the powder. I mean, that's just how it is. This whole conversation is my version of Red Pill. But we came out, I put it all out there. I'm like, this is how I see it. This is the cold, you know what I mean. No matter how uncomfortable it may seem, I'm going to tell you how I see it. It is what it is.

But most people can't have a conversation. Most people nowadays can't have a conversation. Like, there's things that you've said that I disagree with, but okay. Let's move on. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's fine. We're going to disagree on that. That's fine.

So then you just keep moving. moving on, but most people, boy, they drill down on it. And they can't get off it. And next thing you know, they're, I know guys that have had a slight deviation in their opinion and stopped talking for 10 years, then became friends again, and then stop talking again. It's like, you stopped talking to me for 10 years over something, whatever it is. Are you serious?

Like, don't come back. Don't come back to talk to me. I mean, if you can't. You can't have a conversation? I can't agree with, I don't have to agree with everything you say. In fact, we're supposed to disagree. So I can think about my position. well, damn, you know, man,

Kobe really didn't like it when I said this shit. Let me think about it. You know what I mean? Am I missing something here? You know, let me think about that. But people don't want to do that. Hey, you guys, do me a favor. Check out D.L. Saint.

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that's all I ask five things about the Trump administration you do not like it was three before well yeah but I want five give me five

because why because it's an open book open book as opposed to yeah because I gave them reasons here so let me give you some funeral

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