Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

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The Bible tells us that in ancient times, these people were worshipping other gods and anthropologically speaking, historically speaking, biblically speaking, these other gods were the Anunnaki. So who were they? We are told in Genesis 126 and God said, let us make man in our image after our likeness. So there's plurality there. The real reason there is plurality there is because the word that was used in Hebrew wasn't God,

but Elohim. Well, Elohim means the powerful ones. The oldest text, known to mankind, have to do with these beings. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with Asoteric Eddie. And he has an interesting take on aliens and UFOs. and it actually ties into a story that I've actually heard about for 10 years or so since I was what I told you since I was locked up but he's here with us to go over it and so check out the video so then he'll play an intro and then it'll be like I yeah so

I appreciate you coming absolutely man all right I watched I watched I think a majority majority, maybe I watched a chunk of your interview with, with Danny on concrete, which I thought was really good. And I know I already said this to you, but one of the reasons I thought it was good was that I was locked up with a guy named Chris Marrero, right? So Chris Marrero spent a significant Listen, this guy had so many books sent in to him. And one of them was on like the Ananaki. But Chris, and I've actually done several videos with Chris Murrow. It's actually, some of his videos are like really, really, like they've got like 80,000

or close to 100,000 views. And all we do is laugh and joke. Like it's not a serious thing at all. Because Chris can't, first of all, he's super excitable. And he never really. explains the he'll just throw out onanaki they were here way before anybody else they were they were they they know he throws out all these things and he doesn't he can't put it together in a in a in a kind of like a coherent um chronological story that you can follow he just throws things out where you know if you say well

i don't understand well well that's you know well the bible says you don't understand the bible's raw and he just he gets upset not in a mean way because he's super he's just a hilarious guy. But he doesn't ever really say, listen, you have to understand, here's where the initial origins come from. This is who these people were. And what happened was, and then start explaining the issues and kind of follow that path onto how it all kind of melds into the Bible and just all the way up to our current history. He's never, I don't think he could do it he just super excited to get sidetracked um but but listening to you talk to danny was was great because i was like wow like that makes sense that kind of makes sense like i can understand that

like i can just because kind of like when i was telling you earlier about like um i have a degree i have a degree of fine arts i have a degree in fine arts but a lot of the classes are humanities classes and in humanities you have to end up you do the study of art And there's all of these when one of the things that happens is when you start getting to religious art, there's a lot of art that's depicted that is depicted incorrectly because initially the Bible when it was during the transcription or sorry, when they transcribed a lot of the Bible, they there were, the transcriptions were wrong. right yeah and so you end up having things like and i gave you the one example of there's a there's a a statue of actually done by i think michael angelo um a statue of moses where he's got horns on his head and the problem is is that when the bible was transcribed the transcription was wrong was incorrect and so the originally when they transcribed it it was that

Moses, the character of Moses had light emanating from his head. And the transcription was, ended up being that they transcribed it as that he had like projections emanating from his head. And that ended up being horns. So there were all these depictions of Moses where he's got horns. Moses had horns. And you're looking at like, well, Moses had a horn. Well, that's because and here's why. Well, that went on for 400 years until somebody said, that's not what that means. And so there's all these little things. And so when I was listening to you, explain how some of these things came about, I was like, a lot of that makes sense.

Yeah. So with that said, so can we, you want to let, can we, you want to start at the, kind of at the beginning, just kind of like first, like where, where you got into this, where you were raised and just a little bit about you and. Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you for having me here. Sure. Absolutely.

Yeah, I mean, I've been researching this stuff for basically half my life now. And I just want to say to everybody listening and watching, you know, I'm not a degreed professional. You know, I'm a college dropout. But I am somebody who has spent half of their life at this point, researching, studying, writing, and creating content around this stuff, the conspiratorial, esoteric, occult. It's been my life. It's been what my life has been about. pretty much ever since I was a kid and yeah ever since I can as far back as I can remember my life always revolved these questions these bigger questions these bigger subjects for example when I was like

in first grade I remember going to the library and picking out a book and that book had to do with dinosaurs and dragons and knights and that whole thing but somewhere in that book there was there was a section about the Holy Grail. And I remember looking at that and being fascinated. And as a kid, I wanted to go out and find the Holy Grail. That was like my goal, my dream, you know? And so I always had a fascination with like artifacts and ancient things. And at the time, I didn't know what it really was.

I thought it was literally just a golden cup, you know. But later on in life, I found out that it was a much deeper complex theory having to do with either the bloodline of Jesus Christ or the Ark of the Covenant, which is a whole other topic in itself. But I'm just saying that to let you know that my life has always revolved around that fascination for these things. And as I got older, I started to learn the more deeper and specific detailed truths about these things.

And real quick, I'll tell you two other stories that kind of led me down this path even further. When I was about eight years old, my grandpa, who used to be a pastor, told me that he had seen a UFO. And that shook me at my core at that age because one, I grew up in a religious family. And we're all pretty open-minded in my family. But to hear my grandpa, who was a pastor, tell me that he'd seen a UFO and he believes in aliens and that he was questioning God's existence. Like that shook me. I was like, whoa. So that kind of woke me up in a whole new way as well. And then when I was about 12 years old in middle school, I met my first Freemason. and he was a cool on-site substitute teacher that everybody liked.

And one day I had Saturday school, just me and one other kid who I knew would mean him. I laughed because we were just troublemakers. But we had Saturday school with him. It was just us two and him. And since it was just us three, he decides to just tell us stories. And he always had this really fat ring. And so I decided to ask me, oh, what's up with that ring? And it turns out it was a Freemason ring.

I didn't know who the Freemasons were at the time. had the G and everything and he proceeds to tell me that he was a Freemason and he belongs to this ancient order and that his priest had given him this ring back in Ireland. He was Irish with the accent and everything. And so his priest had given him the ring and showed him this ancient dungeon where their lineage comes from. And he told me at 12 years old, he's like, my priest on his dying bed gave me this ring and said, if anybody steals it from you, they will die. And so I'm like, you know, a young kid, like learning all these things. And then soon enough, around 13, 14, I start smoking cannabis, doing psychedelic mushrooms, and listening to a lot of conscious hip hop that was speaking about these subjects.

And I was always listening to classic rock, Pink Floyd, Jimmy Hendrix, Bob Marley. So as a young person, I was always open-minded, rebellious, questioning authority, questioning the mainstream narrative. And then it all came to a head right around 1314 when I started reading the works of Zechariah Sitchin. Zechariah Sitchin started writing books in the 70s about the Anunnaki. And so he's the guy who like really brought this to the forefront. I always say there would be no ancient alien TV show. There would be no guy at TV without Zechariah Sitchin. He's the guy who brought the Anunaki theory to us through a series of books called the Earth Chronicles.

Although now I think there are some things that he got wrong or he exaggerated, I still appreciate what he did for us in like going in detail and looking at every civilization across our entire human history and putting it together and weaving a story together that had to do with these beings. So I hope that answers your question. But yeah, this stuff is pretty much just like my life has revolved their stuff ever since I was a kid. And more specifically, the past two years under the brand name, Esoteric Eddie, I've published three books and put out a lot of content, full-length documentaries, short videos and stuff like that surrounding this stuff. And so right now it's my part-time work to research it and put it out there. Well, let's talk about the first book that you wrote. Like, one, why did you write it? And what did you do to kind of prepare for, to write that book?

And what does it cover? Yeah, cool. I love writing. I've always been writing ever since I was a kid. Actually, it was one of the first skills that I realized I had. I've always been like an introverted, artistic person. I was never like an athletic person. Didn't appreciate sports until later on in life.

And so in fourth grade, I won a writing contest. And that was the first time in life that I realized I had something that I could, like, utilize in this world. Right. And so I've been writing ever since. And the first book I ever wrote actually was titled the Anunaki theorem. And I wrote that when I was like 20, somewhere between 20, 23. I don't remember.

I'm 29 now and a lot has happened since then, a lot of craziness. But I wrote that book and it was horrible, to be honest. It was horrible. I was a horrible, like, academic writer at that time. And so it did a little stint for a couple years. And then years later, around 25, I wrote a book titled The Lucifer Mystery Revealed. And that book was actually a success. That's the book that put me on the map with all these podcasts that I've been featured on over the past couple years.

I feel like I've seen that book. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Yeah. That book got me on the map. So I've been featured on over 100 shows to speak specifically. specifically about that book

but I dropped that one in 2022 the Lucifer mystery revealed and then did my rounds and kind of got out into the world because of that book and then I came back

to the Onanaki book and decided you know what I can't just let that be so I went back and I did it some justice and I just gutted it and rewrote it and now the Anunaki theorem

which is available is a whole new book and it's now I'm actually proud of that book. So I have rewritten my first book and put it out as a new edition. So when people ask me, what's the first book that you wrote? You know, technically it wasn't the Ananaki theorem. Right. But people know me from the Lucifer mystery revealed first. So what, what, what is the Ananaki theorem cover? So I say, basically, all my books are academic perspectives. I try to write from an unbiased academic historical perspective. The Anunnaki basically covers how monotheism was created,

why monotheism was created, and how it was influenced. What is monotheism? So monotheism is the belief in one God. Oh, okay. So in other words, Christianity, Judaism, Islam. Right. All right. Which are all a part of the Abrahamic faiths. Okay. So the Anunaki theorem, my book, demonstrates how the Abrahamic faiths, monotheism was formulated out of the old polytheistic Anunnaki mythologies. I show you how and why that happened. And it's an interesting path. And it's a dangerous one, I think, because obviously some people are very religious. And in certain countries, they would execute you for trying to deconstruct religion.

Well, they're not here. So let's get into it. Yeah, absolutely. So I grew up in a religious family. I grew up in a Christian and Catholic family. So I have a reverence for the Bible for all of that. But I've never liked authority. I've never liked institutional religion. And so naturally I've always questioned it. And so what I found amongst my many years of research is that Judaism, which Islam and Christianity owe their religions too, right? And other words, without Judaism, there would be no Christianity or Islam, was influenced and founded by ancient peoples who were coming out of the old polytheistic worldview. To be more specific, the ancient Israelites, right, the people who wrote the Bible, right? The ancient Israelites were actually a branch of Canaanites who broke off and decided to create their own religion to create their own culture. And the Bible tells us this. The Bible frequently tells us that

the people of Israel are the people of Canaan. And historically speaking, anthropologically speaking, the oldest form of Hebrew is actually a form of Canaanite, a form of Phoenician. And so anthropologically speaking, biblically speaking, it is true that the ancient Israelites were just a branch of Canaanites, a branch of Phoenicians. And that's important because the Phoenicians, they weren't monotheistic. They were polytheistic. They believed in many gods. And the Bible tells us this, again, in Jeremiah, when the Babylonians were descending upon the kingdom of Judah. This was a real historical event. Right around 600 BC, the Babylonians descended upon the kingdom of Judah and some of the other Middle Eastern countries or kingdoms

and started taking them captive. And around that time, the Israelites were losing their faith. And the book of Jeremiah tells us this, Jeremiah tells us that at that time, the people were worshiping as many gods as there were streets. So they were reverting back to their old ways. That's what the whole book of the first couple books of the Bible are about, are trying to get the Israelites

to like stop worshiping all these other gods, and then realize that Yahweh is the one true God. That's what the whole first couple of books are about. And so if we're frequently being told that these ancient Israelites were worshipping other gods and we're even told, we are even told in the Bible that Abraham's own father, Tara, worshipped other gods. And so when we look at these ancient cultures,

anthropologically speaking, historically speaking, and ask ourselves, who were these other gods? they tell us who these other gods were. These other gods were the Anunaki. And this is evident in Hamarabi's law code. Hamarabi's law code is taught in every high school. I remember learning about it in 9th or 10th grade. And Hamarabi's law code is praised as being one of the greatest first pieces of law, whatever, you know.

But in Hammurabi's law code, the very first opening lines are him giving praise to the Anunnaki. He says, you know, I'm paraphrasing, I praise to the Anunaki, to the God Anu and his son L, and Lil, and so on and so forth. And so again, the Bible tells us that in ancient times, these people were worshipping other gods, and anthropologically speaking, historically speaking, biblically speaking, these other gods were the Anunnaki. So who were they? Right. So naturally that leads us to ask, who were they? And why does that matter? Right. So the reason it matters is because we have these Abrahamic faiths that have been more or less controlling the world for the past 5,000 years or so. And so much so that even the leader of the not so free world, Putin, you know, is a Christian, you know. You can see him. He's always doing the hell Mary. He's rocking a cross. He's. and Orthodox Christian.

I mean, so religion is very pervasive in our world. These Abrahamic faiths are very pervasive in our world. And we've been killing each other over these things and jailing each other and all these different things and doctrinating each other over these things. And it's a bit ridiculous because they're founded on a fallacy, a misconception. And the misconception is that they are like infallible. When the truth is these Abraham, faith were founded on polytheistic religions. And we know this because of different pieces of

evidence. For example, when we study history and look at the most ancient culture that we know of today, that of the Sumerians, they tell us a whole different mythology about who we are and how we got here. And that mythology is still in the Bible and in these Abrahamic faith. It's just watered down. Yeah, I was going to say a lot of those, the stories are repeated and altered slightly, like the flood. Exactly. And so the Sumerian culture was basically buried underneath the sands of time up until the 1800s. We had forgot about them. We had lost that part of our history. We didn't know about them. We had little hints of them. For example, in the Bible, they were known as the people of Shinar. But it wasn't until the 1800s when we started to dig them back. up from Iraq and those other areas and started to uncover thousands of clay tablets,

which all have not been translated yet, at least publicly. And so when we read these tablets, it became clear to us that the Bible was influenced by these mythologies. For example, the Sumerians tell us through their stories that these Ananaki beings, who are their gods, our gods, created us through some sort of experimentation of taking their blood and what they call clay and then creating us. And so this is thousands of years before the Bible. But the Bible retells this in Genesis when we are told that God made Adam or man from the dust. You're saying before the Old Testament.

Oh yeah, yeah. These Sumerian tablets are at least a couple thousand years older than the dust. the Old Testament. And they've just been lost to time because, for whatever reason. Mostly war. Mostly war. Yeah, I was going to say the victors write the history. Yeah, and so the Sumerian stories tell us that these Ananaki beings created us through

an admixture of their blood and whatever clay was to them, so some kind of experimentation. And they tell us that it was an operation done by multiple beings, not one God. and the interesting thing is the Bible repeats this almost verbatim we are told in Genesis 126 and you can go and look at this in any English Bible right now Genesis 126 we are told and God said let us make man in our image after our likeness and so there's plurality there and that plurality has been debated theologians will tell you that that plurality is there for either because it's God speaking to the angels or it's God speaking to Jesus or it's God speaking to his divine counsel. And all these are, you know, good reasons to debate. But the real reason there's

plurality there is because the word that was used in Hebrew wasn't God, but Elohim. So when you plug that word in, what we should be reading is, and the Elohim said, let us make man in our image after our likeness. And so who are the Elohim? Well, Elohim means the powerful ones. And so again, if we're looking at this through historical perspective, not a religious perspective,

and start to ask ourselves, what was going on at that time? Why were these writers talking about powerful ones and Elohims and beings that were creating us in their image? The reason that the writers of the Torah were describing this is because they were retelling the story

of their ancestors the early Israelites who were Canaanites were descendants of the Sumerians they weren't that far removed from them historically speaking so it makes sense that they were simply retelling the stories of their ancestors and us modern Christians or whatever were the ones who are arrogant

who have completely lost the historical context of these Hebrew texts But the writers of the Old Testament and the Torah, they were not, they knew their history. They knew their ancestors. They knew these stories. These stories were very important to them. For example, the Babylonian New Year Festival, which was held every year, during that festival, there was a reenactment of the Sumerian creation myth. So these stories were very important to them.

We are the ones who lost the historical context and made all these exaggeration. with monotheism and whatever throughout the years okay so still like I'm still like who are but still who are the

Aronaki like is that I mean I know listen I know Chris would say we said that they were like giants they weren't that they were his theory was that they were aliens that had come from or aliens that had been here way before us

and that they bred humans and there was a purpose that they bred humans for, like slaves or something, or I forget exactly what the reason was, but I'm sure you know. Well, I've got some information. So, Zecharii Sitchin, right? He was the guy who brought all of this to the forefront, again, back in the 70s. He's the one who first theorized that the Anunnaki were, these aliens from a distant planet and all of that, which I don't agree with right now.

But when we read the Sumerian text, all they tell us is that there were gods, they were anthropomorphic gods, meaning they were humanoid, they looked like us, they had similar traits like us. And what's interesting and weird is the oldest text known to mankind. Now, like, I really want people to let that sink in. like the oldest text known to mankind have to do with these beings. For example, one of them being the Keshe Temple hymn, regarded as literally the oldest piece of text. When we read it, all it is is us humans putting together some sort of weird ritual, getting ready for this weird ceremony in which we are about to worship these beings. and receive some sort of information or something from them.

And so that's weird, right? The oldest texts are oldest works as humans. We're worshipping these things, these beings, these people. Unfortunately, the Sumerian text, at least the publicly translated ones, do not tell us where they came from, why they came here, or why they were doing what they were doing. but they do say some weird stuff that we were worshipping them

and they do mention there is a Sumerian text that does say that we specifically we were created specifically to worship and labor for them that is stated

okay and again that is reflected so that makes sense yeah I mean that's all we do as humans it's in us to work and that's exploited I believe by the upper echelons

you know the shadowy elite I think that inner trait is exploited, you know, that trait for us to just work and slave away and worship. But that whole story, again, is reflected in the Bible. The Bible tells us that man was made to till the ground, right, to work, that we shall receive the fruit of our labor by the sweat of our brow. And so these stories are being repeated. They're just being covered up by the guise of monotheism. So why don't you think, why don't you agree that they're aliens?

Well, because there's as a historian, you know, or from the historical perspective, I haven't found anything that specifically says that. It's not, I'm not ruling it out completely. When we look at the entire picture, anthropologically, historically, mythologically, we can maybe assume that. And I say that because homo sapiens sapiens, which is what we are, We are no longer Homo sapiens. We are Homo sapiens sapiens.

That skeletal structure from what I've been able to read and research is only about like 100,000 years old. So we are a fairly new creature. Species. Species. And our consciousness, our cognitive abilities are only about that we have that we're familiar with today that make us who we are today. are only about 50,000 years old.

And so again, we're a fairly new species. And we also have this idea of, or theory of ancient cataclysms that Graham Hancock and Robert Schock talk a lot about, you know, Graham Hancock just came out with that documentary on Netflix about it. And so anthropologically speaking, geographically speaking, we know that cataclysms have occurred

in our recent past that have wiped out huge amounts of what could have been civilizations and large parts of Earth. Well, I mean, humans wipe out, every new, you know, deviation of the species wipes out the old one. Yeah. You know, as soon as you become just a little bit more advanced, you wipe out the, you take everything they have and wipe them out. Exactly.

Yeah, so we have this weird thing going on with us being a fairly new species. We know that cataclysms have occurred in our ancient past or in our more recent past. and we also know that mainstream science is lying to us about how old we are as a species and as a civilization because they tell us as of right now we're only about 7,000 years old going back to the Sumerians but we know that's not true because we have places like go beckley teppy which go back to like 9 to 14,000 years old out there in turkey so we know that there is something prior to us and we know that the ancient text all of the ancient texts having to do with divine beings tell us that we were deliberately created by some

set of beings to be workers. And so with all of those pieces of information together, we can assume some sort of theory that these beings were maybe alien and they genetically engineered us. Or they were wiped out. So my theory is, or my conclusion, I would say, which I write about in the Anunaki theorem. And real quick, if you can find the book, on my website esoteric.80.com, but if you don't want to purchase it or you can't. Amazon? It's on Amazon also. But there's also a free documentary version on my channel that anybody can go watch. How long it's documentary? This is like an hour. But I conclude after reading all this stuff for myself that at the very least, they were, they were just survivors of a cataclysm.

They were from Earth. Where their lineage came from, I don't know. But my conclusion, was at the very least they were from earth and they were survivors of a cataclysm. And the reason I believe that is because one of the most ancient Sumerian texts that has to do with the Anunnaki known as Enki and the world order tells us that Enki, one of the main gods, was going around and setting up civilization. If you read it, it's literally just him going around appointing different gods for different aspects of civilization and society. He's like, all right, you're going to take care of the farm. You're going to take care of domesticating the land. And this, this, isn't that. And so he's going around. And we're also told in that text that he had created the calendar.

And so if you're reading this, you might think that, oh, this is the gods creating the world. But I don't read it that way. I read it as them resetting the world, having to reset. And the reason I think that is because there was a weird line in there in which we are told that the Mart two people who were nomads, the Mar two. two nomads were without resource. And Anki gave them resource because they were without resource. So here we are reading one of the most, what do you mean by resource? Just like resource, like animals, food, shelter. Okay, so yeah, they didn't have anything. Exactly. And so here we are. We're reading one of the most ancient texts known to our entire existence having to do with these

gods, the Onanaki, going around, domesticating the land, animals, creating a calendar. And as while these gods are doing that, we're told there's these strange Martu nomads who are without resource, who are given resource. So I read that as these beings weren't creating the world. They were having to reset the world. And there were some disenfranchised people among them who also survived the cataclysm, unfortunately, but unfortunately weren't as savvy as these other Ananaki. So my conclusion in my book is that these Ananaki were not gods. I mean, sure, they were gods, maybe by our definition of them in the ancient world,

they were simply survivors of a cataclysm who rewrote themselves into the history books as gods. But I will say they are definitely not human. by definition because a human is what we are humans by definition are an ad mixture of their genetics and whatever else they pulled from this clay as Zecharii Sitchin and many others have postulated they probably just took some some late stage in Neanderthal genetics infused it with with theirs well you'd have to be extremely advanced to you know to do any type of of a genetic splicing or you know, anything along those lines, you'd have to be advanced. So if they're that advanced,

then where would that, where would their former civilization be? Like, why haven't we come across their former civilization? Like, although, to be honest, to be honest with you in a few hundred, like, I was watching this thing on a history channel, discovery channel, probably, God, what was it, a year or so ago? And they talk about like, what would, what would Earth look like in a thousand years. Have you ever seen that? And they showed the breakdown of like, it's pretty horrible. The buildings collapse. I mean, literally within a few hundred years, it's almost everything's jungle. Yeah. Within a thousand years, it's basically there's, we're almost wiped out of, like, there's almost almost no way without extensive digging or

anything to even realize that we were, we ever, ever even here. Obviously, there's things that are steel and that sort of things. But then again, rust and deterioration and those types of things. Like it literally within a thousand years, the planet would just retake everything that civil, everything that humans have, have created and just, it would just be gone. So I could see, I could see 15 or 20, you know, a thousand years, you know, just wiping out any trace, but still, there's got to be something. Yeah. And there is, there is something.

And one of those somethings is the Great Pyramid. Okay. The Great Pyramid. I talk about it in my book and in the documentary. And as it stands, there is no conclusive evidence that that thing was built during modern times. There is zero conclusive evidence. I went out and I studied the three main pieces of evidence that mainstream scholars tout as being the evidences that it was built during our time. And each of them is just ridiculous.

the main piece of evidence that that huge weird thing was built in our time was what I guess I will call like the Howard Weiss theory so there was a there was a what you go what would you call it um an excavator I guess a historian a very eager guy Howard advice during the 19th century who was trying to get access to the great pyramid because he wanted to study it excavated, but he was kind of a known, kind of like con and kind of guy. You know, the other excavators didn't really respect him. And so he was always getting rejected access to the, to the digging sites of Giza. And one night, Howard of Vice and his homie snuck into the Giza plateau, and they blasted through it with dynamite, through the Great Pyramid, and all the way up

into the king's chamber, as they call it. And after using dynamite to blast through it, they found a little room. And in that room, they just so happened to find what is now called the Kufu inscription. Or some scholars call it the Kufu graffiti. And they found the name of a pharaoh, Kufu, written in red paint. I've seen this. Yeah. I didn't know he blew up the, I didn't know he blew his way.

into the thing, but I've seen the red, you know, um, uh, swishes, you know, the way they, they look the lettering. Yeah. Yeah. And what's funny is, as Zach Ryas Sitchin points out in one of his books, the style in which it was written wasn't even from the era that Kufu was living in. And even more embarrassing than that is it was, it was, uh, misspelled. And it was misspelled in the same way that It was misspelled in a famous Egyptian lexicon being circled during his time. There was a lexicon put together of Egyptian words and, you know, English equivalents or whatever. And in that lexicon, the name Kufu was misspelled a certain way, the same exact way inside the King's Chamber that Howard Weiss found.

What does that mean? It means he forged it. He looked at the lexicon and found the name, went in there, blasted it, and he said, and just wrote it. And scholars took it as being true? Yes, man. To this day, that is that right there is the number one piece of evidence that the gray pyramid was built in our time.

There are two other pieces of evidence that I don't even need to bring up because they're not, they're not even as respected as that one. Okay. But that, so what I'm saying is there was still zero conclusive evidence that that thing was built during our time. And what about the other pyramids? So they were built, were built in our time? Well, the three pyramids, the three great pyramids, I think were constructed by the same

operation. Okay. But there are smaller pyramids throughout Egypt that I, that I would believe were built in our time, like the pyramid of Sneffru, and there's like this pyramid called the Bent Pyramid, which started collapsing because it wasn't built on like granite or it wasn't built on a solid foundation. And as it got heavier, it started to call it kind of. Exactly.

So I think those other pyramids were like us trying to like mimic the Great Pyramid. Exactly. Couldn't get it right the first time. Couldn't get it. And they're way smaller in size. And the thing about the Great Pyramid, it's not just huge. It's got like these mathematical equations written into it, which are fascinating. And what it does too, philosophically, which is wild, it squares or it squares the circle.

which is like this weird impossible geometry question to square the circle means to like draw draw out a perfect circle and a perfect square that can like fit into one another um i have it more detailed in my book and in the video but the great pyramid does that with its like mathematical equations it actually squares the circle which in in esoteric geometry means bringing heaven down to earth okay so whoever built it was like not just putting blocks together to make some big thing they were they were incorporating a lot of esoteric geometry and philosophy within it so so you think that as a result of this the the bible was taken from a lot of these writings um and evolved along an incorrect path right Yeah. Well, what happened, and again, it's funny, the Bible tells us what happens. It's hilarious. The Bible, I guess, in a way, like, shoots itself in the foot. Right. Like, it tells you, like, all the truth, but it's, like, kind of vague. So, prior to the Babylonian exile, when Judaism was still being formed, before the Bible was even written, remember, the Israelites were losing their footing and they were going back to their old ways. But when the Babylonians descended upon the kingdom of Judah, they only took the elite as captive.

They left all the other people there. They only took the elite. The peasants. Yeah, they left the peasants there. They took the elite with them. And so during the Babylonian exile, the elite were in Babylon. They were there and they were picking up things, learning things. And we were told in the Bible and in history that after the Babylonian exile was over,

once the Persian king Cyrus took over and freed them, The prophet Nehemiah and Ezra were told by the Persian elite to go back to their homeland and preach a new law. The Persian Empire was tolerant of the Jews. They said, we're cool with you guys doing your thing as long as your law coincides with our law. And so we're told in the Bible and in history that the prophets Nehemiah and Ezra were given instruction to go back to Judea and bring a new law. and that new law was the Torah. And so they came back with the Torah and the idea of monotheism. And they realized that they needed some kind of unification

so that some sort of Babylonian captivity could never happen again. And that unification was monotheism. The belief in one God. And who's going to mediate that? The rabbi. The institution. Okay. And so what I'm saying is monotheism,

originally with Judaism was created simply to control the masses. Okay. Well, if this was a religion that was created and you're saying that everything came from

the Ananaki, then is there a god at all? I personally believe in a creator. I believe in a creator. I call it the creator. I don't pretend to know what it is, who it is. I've never shook its hand and said hello. Right.

You know, but I do believe in a creator, and I think that all religions on its earth are man-made religions. Right. And actually, one time I was sitting back and I was being introspective and I realized

I don't believe in anything man-made. God is man-made. But the Creator, supersedes god well you know i i've actually said this a few times and i probably if i was more educated or more articulate i would probably have a better um i probably have the ability to explain it you know in a better way like i think that he just humans you know we think oh you know we're super smart we know everything we've we can figure out pretty much everything right like

We figure out physics and the size of the galaxy and universe and the planets and how they do this and how they did. And granted, a lot of those, a lot of those scientific leaves are fucking amazing. Like, I don't know. Like, how do you figure out what this planet is made up of and you've never been there? Oh, well, we fired a laser and bounced off this and used a reflecting such and such and we know it's made up of this gas. Like, are you, who's, who thought of that? Like, what the? So, but, you know, and there's people that are just so outrageously smart, right?

But in the end, those people will explain concepts to you that you, you can't grasp. I just don't have the IQ to grasp it. And I'm a fairly sharp guy, you know, not super bright, but pretty bright. And I just, you couldn't, if you, if I, if I, if you gave you a couple of years of harsh 10 hour a day studying in the end i don't think i could actually understand some of the concepts that these guys understand these guys with 180 200 IQ i'm not going to get it so the so what i'm saying is if you've got different levels of understanding right you get down to let's say a chimpanzee a chimpanzee knows that how to forge food and he has a you know they have a a hierarchy they have a structure they have

but little societies, right? They have little, you know, they, they understand the jungle and this and this and how things work and how this is the boss and this is what I do and this is how our little society works. And here's how we forge for food. And they've got a whole thing going on. But they don't know that they're on the, they don't know that they're on this continent. It's surrounded by water. It's on a planet.

It's going through around the sun. And they don't know that. Yeah. They have no concept of that. And even if you could sit down and say, hey, guess what? I've got a magic box and I can communicate. 100% with this champion pansy he's never going to understand you could talk to him for 10 years he will never be able to grasp that concept so the idea so that's the way I look at us we're super smart

we can do a lot of stuff listen five or 10 years from now I think we'll probably have little colonies on Mars you know so that's amazing but you know what you and I are probably no matter how much somebody could explain it to us are probably never really going to grasp the concept or be able to understand what the creator or what God really is, you know, and I don't have to. Like, it's good enough for me to just, just like you said, like I believe, and if I believe for no other reason than it's comforting to me, that that's good enough for me, you know? Like, I've got buddies that oh, I don't believe, I don't this. Well, even if it's just that it's comforting, I'm okay with that that it's comforting that's enough for me like the idea that oh i i have to understand it and i have

to see proof and listen if god came down and gave you proof you probably wouldn't even be able to fathom it so you know stop it you're just not that bright and i'm okay with not being that right there's lots of stuff i don't listen bro this is fucking magic do you understand i have no clue how this thing works none i push some buttons it does some stuff it calls some people good enough for me never going to figure that out so you know i think that's the same thing with God like it's yeah you and I were just never going to really be able to figure that out and that should be okay because we're really just chimpanzees no I agree with that and I actually got two things to say to that the first thing is I actually just got done reading a book that was written by

the founder of the Illuminati okay he wrote this back in 1804 I've got a documentary on him and I'm going to release my breakdown of this book soon it's a book title on your on your you YouTube channel. Yes. Okay. The book is called Diogenes is a lamp. And so Adam Wysop, the founder of the Illuminati, wrote this towards the end of his life in his 50s, after he'd already failed and taken over the entire known world. And he's questioning morality and God and enlightenment. And to most people's surprise, he admits that he believes in God. And he says that God can ever be proven. Because in order to prove something, you need a higher level of understanding and how can there be anything higher level than God. Right. So God can never be proven

because he already, he is the highest level of proof, you know. I'm paraphrasing, but it's basically what he's saying is God could never be proven. It can only be understood by faith because there's no higher learning or understanding than God that we can use to understand it. Right. And I don't even think that's religious. Do you see what I mean? Like I'm not looking even saying it as a religious thing. I'm saying just scientifically. Yeah. You're just not, you know, biologically, you're not capable.

I'm not capable of understanding this. Yeah. So, and, you know, and that's not, you know, it's not, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying, like, genetically, like, listen, maybe in 2,000 years from now, humans will evolve to a point where they can conceptualize that. Well, I'm glad you said that because that's actually what my most recent book is all about. Oh, okay. So I wrote my third book and dropped it this year, 2023, and it's called The Crystal

Lattice Mind Illusion, and it gets into consciousness and all of that. And my conclusion was that, like you're saying, we can't fathom God now, but I think that it is in our creator's intention for us to eventually be able to fathom it, and not only fathom it and understand it, but also fully understand what we are. And I use different mythologies or philosophies to kind of demonstrate that. And one of them is a story that comes out of Kabbalah. Now, Kabbalah is mystical Judaism. And there's a story within Kabbalah known as the Shavira, the breaking of vessels. And in this story, we are told that prior to this universe, God had created another universe

and God had to put a piece of its light itself in all of its creations in that universe, but its light was too powerful so that an entire universe blew up. The first matrix. Exactly. Right? Like the first matrix. It failed because

it was too perfect. And maybe the Big Bang was that explosion. I don't know. But in the story we're told he created a second universe. He went at it again and that second universe is the one that we live in. And in this universe, he withdrew some of his light, withdrew some of his essence, and so that we could be sustained and actually live.

And to me, that explains why God is seemingly everywhere, but also seemingly nowhere. And so to me, I feel like it's in God's intention for us to eventually evolve to the point where we can fathom it. And I think that also because I believe if we want to understand God, at least, to some extent, all we have to do is study nature. I believe nature is God's direct expression, because nature is the only thing that occurs, that exists without any interference. And so that is God's direct expression. It is what God expects, I believe. And so when we study nature, we can understand what God expects of us. And we know that God expects us to struggle. Everything in nature struggles. God expects us to evolve. Everything in nature evolves. And I think that it's all

heading to an end. It's not, I don't think it's just frivolously happening. I don't think things are just flowing endlessly chaotically. I think everything is evolving to a point where we will eventually be able to fathom God. Are we there yet? I don't think so. But will we be? I believe So, and even the Bible tells us, tells us this. Again, the Bible, the New Testament tells us that in the end, we will be upgraded. We will be given new bodies. That's what Christ tells us. He tells us that we will be given new bodies. And what will those bodies look like? What are those bodies? Well, quantum physics will tell us that eventually those bodies could be light bodies. We could reach a point in our cognitive understanding where we can actually start to tap into these higher dimensions that exist around us. There are other dimensions that are existing around us right now. Other energies, other light spectrums that are existing around us right now that we can't fathom or understand. So I think it's in our creator's intention for us to slowly and eventually be able to understand that. And I think he wants us to do it slowly so that we don't explode. Well, I don't think, I mean, I think that we're, I think we're changing. We're humans

change. Like, but your life expectancy, how tall you are, how just, you know, nutrition, like just You know, we're obviously, you know, vastly different than we were, you know, a hundred years ago just through nutrition and everything else and just aging and, gosh, I mentioned this the other day during an interview, I think, was, I had watched a lot of stuff on Mars. So I actually just, I actually just ordered Elon Musk, the biography on Elon Musk. So, but one of the things that I, I don't know. why this never it never even occurred to me but i watched a program the other day and just the guy just happened to barely kind of mention it talked about it for a few minutes and i was just like like the rest of the day i was like wow like i hadn't been thought about that and it was like look one we'll go to mars two we'll you know the only real reason other than to say hey look we beat

the communists there you know or with a rush like other than just bragging rights which is just silliness. Other than that, then, okay, well, then we want to have a colony there because what if something happens? And I get that. I hear that with, you know, I see that Elon Musk's concept. But the truth is, like, you have to be able to go and sustain yourself to be a colony. So if you go there and then it was, okay, and then the guy starts talking about, and once

we're there and it's a colony, it's self-sustaining, what happens to humans? we really become two distinctive races because what will we be what will humans be like that are born there raised there and die there they will because once you go to mars just because of the gravity there's less light there's less gravity um the they were like they were saying that even the um eventual uh radiation on the planet even though we can try and protect you protect you from it there will still be a massive more radiation that people will be subject to so all of these types of things and you'll be raised completely indoors right like so so what will humans be like that that are born and die their generation after generation and they start talking

about all of the things that will change like your eyes will be larger and um they won't need to be as as round like our eyes right there'll be their eyes will change because there's lower light sources yeah um you'll have less hair on your body because you don't need hair because there's no it's not direct sunlight it's not bad and it'll be bred out um your skin will be much much more pale you'll be taller you'll be thinner you'll have a lot less uh muscle mass you don't need it your bone density will be it'll be so so so you'll be so drastic humans will be so drastically different or Martians will be so drastically different that they couldn't even survive on Earth.

You know, you bring them here like they wouldn't be able to walk around if they could ever recover from the lower gravity. If you're born there and you're raised there for 20 years and you come here, you're not playing softball.

You know, like even if you go spend 18 months or a year, a year to 18 months in space, it took what's his name like hours before he could even stand up. He couldn't even stand up by himself. I forget the twin, the astronaut that was in space.

base for like a year or two, like he had major problems. And he was taller. It was like three inches taller. It took like two or three days before he shrank back down. There was all these changes. That was just for a few years. And this guy was running, or he was exercising two to three hours a day to try and fight that. So there's no fighting that on Mars, you know? And why would you if you never have to come back to Earth? So imagine what our species would look like after three or four generations living on Mars, they practically look like what we consider aliens to look like. So, you know, in a way, we're already evolving here. What will we look like when we eventually go to other planets and create self-sustaining, you know, colonies there? We'll be

a drastically different species. I think we need to do it too. Like, I think we absolutely have to venture out from this, from this earth. I love the idea, but I'm not paying for it, though. I mean, but I love the idea that Elon Musk is that like of all the things you could spend your money on this is what you're doing like it's like okay what would I do if I had and it's not that he has an inexhaustible amount of money but he's got he's super rich right so what would you spend your money on to actually say I think this is what I'm going to do it was kind of wild if you think about it

man because like we value money and power and fame much so like, why wouldn't we spend all we have as a species to venture out and seed other star systems? I agree with you, but I'll tell you right now, like, if you gave, I mean, let's face it, it takes a certain type of person to think that way. Most people don't. Most people, if you say, hey, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you, you know, $100 trillion and you could just never run out of money.

What would you do? I mean, it'd be, for most people, it'd be. Cocaine. Yeah, I was going to say, it'd be. It'd be hookers and, you know, penthouses and, you know, Bugatti's and, you know, nonstop. Like, nobody would ever say, what about this? Like, the idea that, right, the idea that he said that he said, I'm going to do this. I've done that.

I've had some fun. I'm clearly not able to stay married. I've had a ton of kids, you know, I'm this is, but this is what I'm going to go ahead and pursue. Like, that's, that's phenomenal. all. But yeah, the thing with the colonies, the human colonies on Mars, I just was like, wow, what happened? It trips me out because, of course, within like the UFO field or the UFO culture community, we've spoken about the Nordics, right? The tall whites they call them. And supposedly there had already been a civilization that lived on Mars that was wiped out.

So it's almost like history is repeating itself. And we're like playing out traumas or something. like well i mean let's i mean earth get ever periodically we do get wiped out like what is the theory um the um like we're in the goldilocks zone right there's so many play yeah that you guys um well there's a i mean there's a theory that says that shoot i wish boziac was here he's he can remember anything he he'll be like oh you're talking about the such and such theory um where basically says that most that there's probably life on on other planets similar to us the problem is is periodically gets wiped out. Yeah.

And so you have to get past, they have to live on a planet. It's like a game. That wipeout session to progress to a point where you could communicate with other intelligent life forms and that most of them, even though there's tons of them that just as a result of just asteroids hitting the planet or comets hitting it or solar flares that most, most species that become intelligent just don't make it pass. That they either destroy themselves, either the, you know, the star blows up or they get hit by an asteroid. Like, we have to figure it out before the sand clock runs out.

Right, right. So, yeah, so. And every generation gets that chance. And like it's. And then, yeah, or these other species, either there's other intelligent life forms get it. And they just, they're there, even if they're at the cusp of it, it still doesn't happen in, in a decade. It's something to go to another planet that takes hundreds of, of years and, and, and, many, many leaps.

Well, let me tell you this story that an African wise man said about aliens and that exact subject. You've heard of like the reptilian theory, right? Reptilians and all that. You've heard of David Ike. I'm not sure. I'm horrible names. David Ike, he's like the British guy who goes around and talks about reptilians.

He's like pretty famous for like the whole reptilian thing and talking out against like the royal family and stuff. But anyways, yeah, so he started writing books back in like the 90s and 80s, about the reptilians and all that. He's made it famous. But he learned about it mostly through Credo Mutwa, which was the, who was the last Zulu Sanusi, Wisdom Keeper. He passed away in 20, I think 2020, actually, 2020 or 2021 at like 90-something years old. And there's still videos of him speaking online. and I have a compilation video of him.

And he tells these amazing stories, dude, as this Sanusi from Africa. And he says that there's an ancient African tale about an alien race that came down here a long, long, long time ago, like ancient, ancient time ago. And that this alien race warned us about staying here for too long. They were a nice race. I forgot their name, but they were like these weird fish, humanoid things. And they came down here and they warned us. They hung out with us for like a couple weeks or something.

And before they left, they warned us. It said, a species that does not venture out to the stars eventually dies out. And another thing is, before they left, they said, if you humans could figure a way to get rid of hatred, death, illness, all these negative things that we were so encompassed by that they would come back and invite us to the other federation. but they never came back. Did you, that that reminds me of the movie Arrival? I've heard of it, yeah. You've never seen Arrival? No, somebody else was telling me about that.

Right? Let's wrap this up. Arrival, I can't, it's so good. Yeah. It's so good because. Somebody was just telling me about that. I can't believe. I'm so disappointed in you.

Did you ever see contact? No, dude. It was a book written by Carl Sagan. So what's so funny about contact was written by Carl Sagan, like I read that book in like a day and a half. I mean, it was, it's not, no, it is an easy read. It's a great read. But it was Carl Sagan. He wrote it.

I almost said before he died, because it's so difficult to write him after you die. Well, it's easy to write. You just can't get him published. So he, anyway, and it was about, you know, SETI. Yeah. What's so funny is when the book came. out, you know, SETI is like, you're, you're laugh. Like, it's laughable, right? Like, like, when I grew up, you know, you're, how old do you now? 29. Yeah, you're 29. Yeah, you're 29. Like,

you're a baby. So, you know, I'm 54 years old. So when I grew up, uh, in the, you know, in the 80s and 90s, you know, if you talked about UFOs, like, it was like, you're a crackpot, bro, you know. So this book came out at that time. And it, and it's, it follows, it's, the movie is actually, Foster, right, plays the lead character of, God, I forget her name, but she's great. The character, and she basically is one of the, one of these people in SETI, and she's trying to get funding and this and that. Oh, do you know what? I think I might have seen this actually, yeah.

And so what ends up happening is they end up getting a, they end up getting a message from Vega, right, which is one of our closer consolations to us. And there's nothing there. It's the brightest one, too. Yeah, but there's like nothing there. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're like, we've checked. Like, there's nobody even there.

Like, there's a planet sending it. Like, where's it? They don't even know where it's coming from, but it comes. And it takes months and months and months to even figure out what the message is. But when they do, it's all it really is is blueprints to build something. It's like these really complicated blueprints to build this massive machine. And I mean massive. So the several of the governments put.

They all start putting in money, and they build this machine. Now, of course, they don't really know what it is. Like, they don't know, is this, are we building a bomb? Like, you know, maybe, and there's all these debates in Congress. Like, he really goes through, like, how, what an upsetting event this would be. Yeah. People are saying, don't build it. It could be a bomb.

We don't know what it is. It's not clear. Like, it's clear that they told us schematics, but the schematics are based on, on numbers, right? Which is universal. Yeah. So, you know, numbers don't change no matter where. Like, we all know that's going to be common theme. So they don't communicate with us.

They don't really tell us what this is. They say, build. This basically build it. And they have a picture of a humanoid in the middle of it. So what you know is you're going to build it and there's going to be a humanoid in the middle of it and something will happen. So they build it. And then, of course, people are saying, yeah, it's probably, that's probably you put this humanoid and it's then going to wipe out all humanoid on the planet. And then they're going to show up and we're all gone.

Like they're going to have us build our own destruction. And they're like, they wouldn't do that. Because if they could do all of this, they would just come here and wipe us out. We're no harm to anybody. If you can travel the distance of hundreds of millions of light years, then getting here, there's no war of the worlds. There's the, they come above us. They sprinkle some pixie dust. And in two hours, everything on earth that they want destroyed is done.

Yeah. It's that simple. So we build this device and the device actually opens up kind of like a little wormhole. once they turn it on and remember this now yeah she travels somewhere it's like a like an island or something right right because it's all really in her head she never actually leaves anywhere right like it falls yeah she's been gone like 13 hours

yeah like they had the recording that they put on her is got records 13 hours there's nothing recorded though but she was gone 13 hours yeah but from the outside it looks like the it drops to the bottom and that's it like that's it like they turn it on and she drops and that's it They're like, it didn't work. And she's like, how long have I been gone? They're like, what do you mean you've been gone?

You just, the device dropped. And she's like, I've been gone forever. What are you talking about? I've talked to this alien that takes the shape of her dead father. I've talked to him for hours. And what happens is it's just a communication between all of these different intelligent species everywhere, just as a communication between it's more like a consciousness thing right it's yeah it's it's it's you know it's it's like a phone

system we're all gonna have to be able to talk like that's you know what I'm saying world now we can all talk uh so that was a great one the other ones the that's a great a great movie yeah um it's great too because it the movie's great like the book was was great but honestly it's one of those few books yeah that kind of like fight club where you read the book if you read the book fight club and you watch the movie, it's really very close. It's one of those few. So they did like a good job.

They did a great job. And also it's so short. It's like 200 pages. Pretty rare. But contact is much larger. But they did a great job. Have you watched Communion? It's a Willie Stryber's book.

Willie Stryber is like a famous UFO experiencer and he's been on like Dreamland and all that for many, many years. But they did a remake of the book. and they starred Christopher Walking in it. It's the most hilarious thing, dude. Like Christopher Walking, you know, right? Right, yeah, yeah. He's like, the aliens, the aliens.

You know, like, it's a pretty bad adaptation of the book, but still pretty fun to watch if you've read the book. The book is creepy. It's very creepy, actually. But I don't know why they chose Christopher Walking, bro. Like, he's a dope actor, but like for that movie, it didn't work. Not really.

Actually, no, it did. Because he plays the maniacal parts, pretty well like when he gets all maniacal and like aggravated but like his little funny the little funny things he does his little accent like those parts are just kind of like hilarious well so there's another movie called arrival um where there's i think a dozen a dozen spaceships come and land all they don't they don't land they just hover yeah 20 or 30 feet away from wherever they are yeah and so all over the planet like somewhere in china some are just in the middle of the ocean some are and so we of course but they're pretty close to a lot of different you know there's

england um you know russia like there's there's no real under no real logic to where they're even located yeah but one of them of course in the united states and we go and it opens up every once a while and lets you go inside and they go inside and there are there's a barrier a clear barrier and there are two beings that are in there and they're trying to communicate yeah this was like kind of recent right Yes. Yes. It was great. And so eventually they figure out how to communicate with them. And when they eventually ask, like, why are you here? Like, that's the big question. Why are you here? Right. And they say, we're here. Basically, this is where it's a communication issue where it's like weapon. Like they're basically saying we're here to give you a weapon. But that's, but it's a miscommunication. It's not weapon. It's like tool. It's like tools. you know but they misinterpret it um because of course the military is involved and they're screwing everything up and they're for trying to push their hand like well hurry up hurry up

oh this is like we we don't know if they think anything like us so eventually after weeks of weeks they start to develop a communication um and they they basically are why are you here and they're like we're here to basically give you know technology or whatever even though there's miscommunication there. But what they end up saying is they're like, well, but why? You know, why would you do this? And they're like, because in 8,000 years from now, we're going to need humans, humanity's help.

And so we're here to help you now. Like time travelers? Not time travelers. What they're doing is, and they're like, well, how would you know what's going to happen in 8,000 years? are you can you travel through time they're like no and they explain they wait the way they conceptualize time is that we're you know lineal right like we're moving through time but they have the ability to see an entire spectrum of time so they can as they move through time

they can visualize the past as well as the future even though they're only here like jet lag or something, which is weird too. I don't know. Like they're actually no, they're actually can, I don't think they can alter time. Well, because imagine, because you know, like, we have a jet lag, right? Which I just experienced coming here from California. So it's like, I'm over here, but people back home are like two hours behind, you know, so it's like this weird time and space. Right, but it's, but it's literally like historic, like literally you can see yourself in the future and what you're going to do and feel the experience, even though you're currently at this point in time. Now, whether you can alter that time or not, I never really understand. It's more like

you have 100% recall, I guess. That's kind of the way I see it, is if I could actually experience what I experienced two days ago. But of course, we don't. We simply have a memory of it. Yeah. Now, or I could, same thing I could experience what I'm going to, I could feel and have that experience of what I'm going to experience the day before I get struck by a car. I can't alter it. Yeah. But I can actually experience and feel it and see it and know it's going to

happen. That's like getting into like the subject of like paranormal activity almost. You got to listen. You got to watch this. You got to watch this because it's great because you realize like you just it, it you really realize like and even when she explains communication. It's really you ought to watch it because when she's

explaining. Which one was this again? It's arrival. Oh, this is. was arriving. Yeah. When you, when she experienced, when she explains communication, because the military, of course, they're like, well, ask them this. And she's like, well, how do I even ask them that? And he's like, well, just you have to figure out how to ask him that. He's like, she's like, right. But first we have to figure out. Google translate. Like, she's like, first we have to figure out what this is. What? Like, she starts breaking down sentence structure and communication. And you realize as she's breaking it down, you start to realize. It's amazing. We can communicate at all, at all. And she's like, and you're asking me to communicate with something that's traveled, all that is clearly, we have no concept of how they think. Yeah.

Like we could say one wrong thing and they may decide that we're, you know, that we're a hostile species and they want nothing to do with us when in fact it was just, it was just an accident. I just, you know, so, and she gives all these different examples. of miscommunications throughout history while talking to different tribes and how that one mistake cost 50,000 lives because of one mistake, you know, so let's go slow. Let's figure this out slowly. So it's, it's an amazing movie. It's a great movie. Yeah, and it's strange, man.

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Like, obviously they're not here to harm us because they could have done that a long time ago. Like, let's face it, they could round us up and make us do whatever they want. The other thing is, I don't think they're here for a lot of people, you know, oh, they're here for our resources. Really? What? Water. Water's abundant. GMO bananas.

Yeah. Water's abundant everywhere. So you don't need us for what. You could go to any comment or comment out there and get. water. You can go to, there are planets that are made up entirely of water. Water's not precious. It's it, you know, maybe when you're thirsty, maybe to us it is, because we're limited to what's here. But the truth is water, isn't it? Gold. Gold is everywhere. Diamonds. Diamonds are everywhere. Like all of the things that they could want. Oh, well, they, they want labor. Labor, if they could

travel across the universe, do you know how much, how many things they've beaten? They, the energy you know uh energy technology like listen 15 years from now we're going to have well more like maybe let's say 20 years from now we're going to have robots cleaning our houses and mowing yards like that's going to be a problem for for the average laborer but you know so we're going to have that right now it's already causing problems what happens when you put AI with with actual Androids that can actually do things. And that's only 10 to 20 years from us right now. You think that aliens haven't got that beat?

Like there's nothing we have that they want. So there's some other reason they're here. Yeah. You know, I don't think like Oziac was saying, I don't think it's technology or us and our technology or we've captured alien crafts and we're testing the technology or whatever he was saying, I don't believe that. It's got to be some other thing that has to do with communication with us and they are slowly acclimating us to the idea. Because let's face it, in the 1940s or 50s, if you had said, hey, there's aliens and they're here and here's what

they want from us, society may have completely broke down. But now, like, when they told us there were aliens and it came out in the newspaper, I was like, I kind of figured that anyway, Because they've been slowly dripping it through the media and through society. And they've kind of acclimated us to the environment over the last 60, 70 years, a little bit here, a little bit there. And so I was like, it's pretty dangerous. It's pretty dangerous if you think about it. Like, they've actually got us to the point where we've all agreed that they are aliens. Right. Like, nobody stopped paying their mortgage.

If there is an agenda here, we are definitely at the phase where everybody believes their aliens coming from some. I don't know. They're coming. They're here, bro. They're around. They're doing something. They want something. But what I'm saying is like if there is some nefarious agenda and there's some kind of a paper sitting on a desk somewhere with different phases that they want us to go through, we're definitely at the phase where everybody on earth believes that they're here and they're real. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think there's no way. And here's the thing I told you about Chris Morrero. I mocked Chris mercilessly. How do you think I felt when Chris is like, ah, I told you. And I was. I was like, oh, man, this fucking crackpot. I got to listen to this guy. I was like, I told you this. I told you said, I know what I said.

You know? It's funny. I actually had a friend when they dropped the, like, was it 2017, Wall Street Journal or whatever it was, New York Times. The Navy, the Navy videos. Yeah. When that came out, I had a friend message me and was like, damn, bro, you were right.

Like, I didn't even, I was like, I didn't even go out there and say, I was like, you guys already know, you know? But now my mind's different on it. Like, I don't think that these mechanical craft are aliens. I think the mechanical craft are a mixture of government black operations. And the reason I think that is because not that long ago, I decided to try and make a compilation video of UFO footage just for fun. Right.

So I make compilation videos every now and then. And I couldn't find a single piece of footage of a mechanical. craft. We hear about them. We see pictures sometimes, like weird pictures, maybe, but there's not a single piece of footage of a mechanical craft, but there is hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of orbs, of these energy orb things floating around in our skies. And not only is their footage and pictures of those things, there are stories of them going all the way back to the medieval times. Well, what do you think? The, the technology. tic tacks are you think they're saying they're orbs and not it's funny right that they

described it that way because they described it as a tic-tac it's like an oval thing that has no ribbons on it no right but they could they never got close enough like they couldn't see they were too far and they're really so partially seeing them on their instruments so it was like a pod if anything some sort of like smooth pot if it was mechanical it was some smooth pot like structure that wasn't like bolted together so you know but i what i'm saying is I think the mechanical UFOs that people have seen like the black triangle and all these different things, I think those are just government operations. And the real UFOs are these strange orb things that we do have a lot of footage of and that people have seen and have been seeing

for thousands of years. There's a famous case known as the Nuremberg UFO case, I guess. I don't know how you look it up. The Nuremberg UFO case, there's actually a picture of it, a poster that this dude drew and wrote about. He said, on this day, hundreds of people in Nuremberg, Germany, witnessed these orb things dancing around or what they thought was battling each other in the sky. Right. And so I'm starting to realize, through all these years of research and stuff, and studying, that they aren't mechanical, they're not coming from a planet. And so it's interesting that the governments of the world have been preparing us to accept that they are mechanical and they are coming from some kind of planet.

But in the recent UFO hearing at our Congress, David Grush, the guy we were briefly talking about with the, was Bosniak? Boziac. Boziac. Grush even said that they could be interdimensional. He said that's one theory. And that's a theory that I kind of like lean towards. I was going to say that makes more sense because, because, well, first of all, even the way they move, like, even if you said, hey, all of these sightings, they have some

similarities, right? But they're all different shapes. They're all doing that. But here's the one thing is that almost all of them talk about the speed at which they move. Like they, it shot, it was gone. And then a minute later, it came back. And then it shot up here and then was gone again.

And it moves so fast. And to me, unless you saw that, I wouldn't think of the speed at which this thing moved. Like, that's a common theme. So to me, if I was going to say, oh, I'm going to say, I'm going to pretend and make up that I saw a spaceship. If I hadn't heard that over and over again, one of the things I probably wouldn't have thought about was the speed at which, like, oh, it moves so fast. that, you know, it just disappeared practically, but it didn't, it was just was, oh, it was gone immediately. Like, that's an odd thing to continually have woven through all of those, all of those different stories. Because to me, moving that fast means that whatever's in it didn't survive

or certainly wasn't human. Yeah. Right. Like, it can't be, that can't be normal. That can't be, that's not like a human oil. Is it moving fast or is it simply appearing at different points of space and time that quickly right yeah who yeah because that's kind of like what the the the the tick tax were right like they just or or the guys i think the guys were saying some of them said it did it like it shot off or it moved so fast they're like i mean like there's just there's no way that's that's man made like there was just nothing even close to it i'm not even sure why you would have to move that fast but right so the interdimensional thing why do you think interdimensional wrong. And once again, why be here? Yeah. Or do they not even know that they are here?

Well, there's just a side of that. Different reasons why I'm starting to think that. And what, okay, one reason I'll start with this is, is because I kind of like what Carl Young and Jacques Valet had to say about it. So I'm sure many of us know who Carl Young is, he's the famous psychoanalyst, you know, right up there with Sigmund Freud. And, but Carl Young was way more esoteric and a cult, man. He's just got some amazing books. And he has a lot. And he has a great, actually has a book on UFOs that I love and you told me that earlier yeah yeah because we're talking about dude and it's called uh flying saucers a modern myth of things seen in the skies i have a breakdown of that in my in my on my channel and he he says that these things are probably not

mechanical he said these things are probably something that has to do with our collective consciousness right he believes that the UFOs that we started to see in the modern era during the world wars was a result of our collective conscious being so piqued by all the chaos that was going on. Because we all have an individual consciousness and an individual subconscious. And our individual subconscious is so powerful that it can create hallucinations in our lives. That's schizophrenia and so on and so forth. But we also have a collective consciousness and a collective subconscious, which we are barely starting to understand through quantum physics.

And so Carl Jung theorized that maybe these UFOs that we'd started seeing during the World Wars was a result of all of us having to go through traumatic pressure and chaos of the world literally ending around us. And for thousands of years, humans have collectively and subconsciously believed in the idea of a Messiah figure coming from the skies. And along with that, it has been ingrained in us subconsciously since our primal days that circles have been some sort of symbol of perfection. In all indigenous cultures, the circle has always been a symbol of perfection of divinity. For example, the Tibetan mandalis, so on and so forth. So all

of this coincided in that era with us as a collective projecting forth a collective hallucination of these things. But where it gets wild is what Jacques Filet had to say about it. Jack Filet is a world-renowned UFOologists, like one of the top UFOologists of all time. And I think actually he was, there was a character that was modeled after him in contact. Okay. But he said, he believes, like Carl Young, that these things are not merely mechanical. He believes there's some sort of consciousness aspect being played here. And he believes that whatever these things are, they're trying to work themselves into our subconscious and build the mythology about them in our subconscious. And so what we know about the subconscious mind and the different dimensions

according to quantum physics is that in these different realms, like the sleep realm, right, our dream realm, thoughts can live, fetishes can live and all these different things. But these energies, these thoughts can become egragores. And this is not getting into magic in the occult. And egragor is basically like a phantism that becomes alive as we feed it more energy. So whatever these things are, they might have started off as being our own projections, but are now coming alive, sort of like AI would, because we are feeding it more and more energy. And as it's fed more energy, it starts to become self-aware and self-conscious and now is its own thing. So our collective consciousness has manifested these collectively. Like no one

individuals come up with it, but collectively, we've come up with these, seeing these things in different places and them doing different things. And now they've actually taken on a real consciousness of their own. Exactly. Too much for me, Role. I know, I'm just doing it. It's wild, but this is another reason why I believe this. So, what's his name, Tom DeLong, right? You're familiar with a Tom DeLong story? Absolutely not. So Tom DeLong, but I'd have to hear it. Sure. So Tom DeLong, he is or was the lead singer of blink 182 you know all the yeah yeah yeah so he was a lead singer right superstar at one point still super cool and everything so he came on to the joe rogan podcast like 2014-ish and just randomly started saying that he was in contact with government officials retired government

officials who were feeding him info information on UFOs and aliens it was a really big podcast that shifted everything i remember listening to that i was an amazon worker and i used to just listen to podcast all day. That shifted a lot for everybody and everybody thought he was crazy. If you go back and watch that original one, Joe was like, man, this dude's crazy. It was, it was kind of an intense podcast. But the things he was saying and the things he was claiming, the things that he was claiming later became true. Back in that day in 2014, as she was saying, dude, trust me, I have a group of people who are going to slowly disclose UFO information to the public over the next five years, over the next five to ten years. And everything he said has come true.

And he started his own company called To the Stars Academy in which he hired on a lot of retired government officials to slowly prep the public for this information. So Tom DeLong and all these associates of his have been behind this disclosure operation that we've been seeing as of recently. And he was on the Stevo podcast recently, Stevo, you know, from Jackass. Yeah, yeah. And he said some wild shit on there. and I made a reel of it, it's on my Instagram, and he said that he realized after speaking to all these people and after many years that these things are not mechanical. And he said, and I'm paraphrasing that the sciop of making the American public and the world believe that they're mechanical was necessary.

It's what he says. It was necessary because we realize they're not aliens. They're entirely something else that we can't fully understand yet. And so it was necessary for us to believe they were like little green man coming from a different planet because the real truth was even stranger than that. Right. And he says that in the Stivo interview that he believes that they're interdimensional and that he believes that for whatever reason they're interested in our soul, what we call our soul. I wish I wish to God Chris Marrero was here because he has a whole thing. He read a whole book about how on the opposite. side of the moon, there is a soul catcher or soul something that takes our souls. And that he's a whole thing.

Listen, it was so bizarre. I was like, I can't even listen to this, bro. Like, this is what I was locked up. I already know, he, he had this whole thing. He's like, listen, listen to what's happening. Bozac would lay in, Bozac was Chris Morero's celly. And he's like, oh, I'll lay in bed all night. Boziac used to say this to me.

We'd be walking around doing something. he'd go, he'd say, bro, let's go, let's go see what Chris is doing. I go, I don't want to, no, I'm going to tell him that there's like, that six planes just went over the prison. And they, with Kim Trails, he goes, watch what he does. He's, let's see what he says. And I go, and I'm like, okay. And we'd walk in there and sit down.

And I go, bro, this is weird, Chris. And then Bozzi out and go, listen to what we just saw. When you go out right now, Chris, we still see him. He's like, what? And he'd tell him, six planes just went over with Kim Trails right over the prison. is a need go, what? Oh my God, I've got a book. And he pulled out a book and start talking about how they're trying to poison us. And they want to reduce the world population to 500 million or something. It was like, he was just go on and on. But so go ahead, soul catchers. Yeah. I mean,

or soul, sorry. Well, I mean, that's what Tom DeLon was saying, like on this Devo podcast, you know, and so with all these different things going on, these different theories, that's just kind of what I'm leaning more towards. You know, these things are, they're not like these mechanical craft, not these physical beings. That's what we've been told. Right. And after writing my recent book, Crystal Latus Mind Illusion, I, I, I, what is it called? You're paying it so fast. The Crystal Ladis Mind Illusion. Okay. And it's a book on consciousness, the subconscious. So I sat down like I do with most of my books and dive into these subjects. And so for the first time, I like really dove into quantum physics, consciousness, to learn this for myself. Like, all right,

What's really going on with all of this, you know? You're just not okay with not knowing. You're not, my philosophy of, I just, even if you told me I wouldn't understand it, you're not okay with that. No, man. That's got to be horrible. I sleep like a baby. You must not sleep at all.

You must have horrible. You must be most tall and turn. I go right to bed. Like, I'm okay with my ignorance. You're not okay with it. No, man. That sucks. That's a part of my journey, dude.

Yeah. It's, but you know what? As I get older, I'm starting to become more okay with it. Honestly, like I'm, where I'm at right now in my life, like I could honestly walk away from all of it, but I have a duty responsibility to the people right now, at least at this point in my life, but I do plan on on retiring from all of this because to be honest, in my personal life, I don't, I don't talk about this stuff in my personal life. Right. There was a point in my life where I was fanatical, like your friend, like I was super fanatical. And in high school, when I was learning about all this stuff, me and my friend used to get sticky. know it's in right like research this research that and we go post it everywhere and i would do like

these stock these these soapbox like preachings about aliens and everything but um in my personal life now i only talk about if people are genuinely interested and they genuinely want to know like okay yeah because it gets to be too much and i had i had a psychotic breakdown actually years ago because of all this so but it is true what you're saying about me that is true because when I was younger, my mom had told me this story about King Solomon and how King Solomon was confronted by God and God told them, hey, whatever you want, I'll give it to you because you've been good or whatever you've been a, you know, a loyal soldier. And King Solomon said, all I want is just wisdom, just give me wisdom, give me knowledge. And because of that, God blessed him with

riches too and became the most rich, the richest man ever, had 700 wives and all this stuff, which became his downfall later on. But I was just going to say that poor bastard. Yeah. And so when my mom told me that story, she told me just, if you're going to pray for anything, pray for wisdom, pray for knowledge to understand God and his works. And I did. I was eight years old and I got on my knees and I pray for wisdom and for knowledge. So my entire life has revolved around wisdom and knowledge and I do have this desire to know things. But I always do say to my listeners and to people, this isn't for everybody. I think some people lead happier and healthier lives simply being a Christian, simply being, like, a Muslim, a Jew or whatever, or even an atheist, whatever. This is just me. This is just how I'm built. I believe God made me this way. The creator made me this way.

But ultimately, and I know this in my heart, there will come a time where I'm going to retire from all this. I'm going to walk away from society altogether. I'm going to just be a hermit. And I will be unbothered. I'm going to grow my hair out, smoke my weed, and take care of my farm. You know? But right now, this is the work that I have to do.

Yeah, I'm good with just not knowing some stuff. Listen, I've listened to how they're going to build the nuclear rockets that, you know, this nuclear engine that's going to help get us to Mars instead of in like eight or nine months, it'll get us there in like three months. I've listened to how they've, what they're using and the formula and how the special type of the engine that they're building for the nuclear propulsion and how they have to use this type of isotope and this type of. Listen, it might as well, and I've listened to three, at least three or four different podcasts on it. Yeah. Listen, it might as well be Charlie Brown's teacher talking to me. Like the whole, I don't have a clue.

It's like, one, one, want, you know, Charlie Brown's teacher, the adults would sound like, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. And I mean, I start to, you know, and I remember, listen, probably a couple days ago I was listening to one. I was like, why am I listening to this? This is never going to click. I'm never going to be like, of course, that's why they're using the, such and such, this and that.

I'm like, why? I'm good enough to know. They're going to build this engine. It's going to go a lot faster. Yeah. So, but, so, yeah, because there's just, I'm good with not, there's something I'm just not going to know. I know, like, doing the research for a lot of the books that I write and stuff like that,

I have to sit down and read, like, sometimes, like, two, 300 page manuscripts from, like, scientific papers or whatever. And I don't fully understand it, you know what I mean? But I just pick out the parts that I understand well enough to, relate to the people i always love listening to um what is the uh guys there's those scientists that are that are um or astronomers or astrologer whatever they are anyway on um on ticot like what's the there's a black guy that neil digressy yes he's great you know why he's so great he can break it down like he almost he just he just he just he just stopped shy of pulling out

like a green crown and drawing on on having to draw you know that's how much he breaks it down like he's just enough that I'm like he'll start to explain it and I'm like I can understand that thank you for talk to me like I was a small child because for him he must be like okay now listen and he breaks it all the way down I'm like got it but when you were talking two minutes ago I have no clue what you were saying but then he'll say imagine a bowling ball I'm like okay I've seen bowling balls I'm with you I'm with you so yeah that's what I need to have it broken out for it. Yeah. But I, yeah. I try to challenge myself because I like trying to understand it because I'm a college to drop out. I sucked at school. But I always liked, I always liked

learning. I just didn't like to be forced to learn. Yeah. I'm better if you entertain me while you're, you know, like if I watch Schindler's list, like I got it. There was some bad stuff going on. If I watch in me at the gates, I see Stalingrad. I see the Germans where I hear you. like I'm I'm good at you know but you got to kind of you got to kind of give me there's got to be some entertainment involved I don't mind sitting there like for me it's fun to like sit there and just like dive into something it feels like there's a certain magic about it a certain madness have you seen Oppenheimer yeah yeah yeah that was good right oh yeah that was a good one that was a good one yeah um shoot what did we do yesterday we did the kennedy we did the guy

the Kennedy one yeah we did a podcast on Kennedy I probably learned most of what in that podcast, I've, I've watched a couple documentaries, but there are always kind of conspiracy theories, but I've also watched, I watch JFK, which with Oliver Stone did the movie, and I'd watch that a couple of times. So luckily, when this guy was talking yesterday, I understood. But if you had to sit down and just have me read the chapter, it would be a struggle. I think I probably learned more watching JFK than I did ever. what reading anything in the in history class. Can I try to explain to you what I what I learned about consciousness? You can try. Yeah and trust me I had to reread so many papers for this book that I wrote and like really really try and understand myself

but I think it would be fun to try to explain it to you. Okay, so you're going to explain consciousness to me or try. Yes, try. So what I learned is that the mind which is consciousness and the body are two different things. The brain is not producing consciousness, rather consciousness and the brain are working together. But before I explain that, I want to explain what the mainstream academia tells us what consciousness is. So the mainstream academia basically says,

through the five main theories that are out there that I break down in my book and documentary, that basically consciousness is just, a culmination of all of our senses working together at the same time, creating the illusion of a 360 experience. So because we are seeing, smelling, tasting, and all these other things going on within us, at the same time, we have this illusory experience of being conscious, but really it's just more of like us being robots experiencing all these senses at once. That's what the mainstream tells us. They say that's what consciousness is. They say,

we are no different than a robot. We're basically no different than a bug. You know, we just, we eat so that we can live and we live so that we can eat. Right. That's the mainstream thing. But we all know that that is inherently not true. If that was true, then we'd all be the same. We would just be these robotic-like beings.

We would just be savages that fighting each other for resources, right? Exactly. But we are all unique. You know, you are different. than everybody else in the world. I'm different than everybody else in the world. Sure, we have genetic things that are similar, but the mind, everybody's mind is different. That's what really makes us unique is our personality, the mind, the consciousness. So we know inherently that the mainstream theory of consciousness is not true. And over the decades, scientists specifically in the

quantum field have realized that the mind and the body are two different things. And one scientist in particular of being Carl Pribram, who was a brain scientist, a neuroscientist, surgeon for decades, realized that the brain and the mind work together sort of like holograms and lasers do. Now, holograms are created when a photosensitive plate with information is hit with the laser. When the laser hits the photosensitive plate, the hologram is created. And he realized after decades of being a neurosurgeon that the brain is like the photosensitive plate that holds the information and consciousness is like the laser that hits the photosensitive plate that hits the brain and then creates the reality that we experience and so over the years we started

to realize that the mind is distinct from the body and another piece of evidence for that is memory. Scientists have been looking for the part of the brain that stores memory. For many years, it was the theoretical Ngram, is what they called it, the Ngram. But we have never found a part in the brain that stores memory. There's nowhere in the brain that is storing memory. And we've realized that memory and consciousness are synonymous. So whatever the mind is, whatever consciousness is, memory is stored in that. It is coupled with that. And we've realized through other life forms like butterflies that memory can sustain through death. When we've done experiments with caterpillars and butterflies that have shown that even through the metamorphosis process where the caterpillar liquefies and completely disintegrates and then crystallizes and forms of butterfly, it can still retain memory from its caterpillar self.

so we now know that the mind is distinct from the body and that memory is coupled with the mind and so that leads us to believe that there could be some form of an afterlife and in this form of the afterlife we could still remember who we are and who we were in this realm and quantum physics has proven that this realm that this realm that we live in is not as structural as we may believe. For example, just last year, three scientists won a Nobel prize for proving this. These three scientists won a Nobel Prize for proving that quantum entanglement is real. And quantum entanglement is the phenomena of two particles sharing information with one another despite how far apart they are in the universe.

right right i've heard this and that is what einstein famously called spooky action at a distance it's theoretically not possible for for two particles no matter how far apart they are in the universe to send to send information instantaneously faster than the speed of light but these three scientists proved that last year through a series of like arduous experiments and so that tells us that our universe is what they call non-local. It is non-local. Locality means Einsteinian science. When quantum physicists say that something is local

or that it is within the confines of locality, it means that it's just, it's solid. It's just this is a table and it's something more than a table. But we've now proven that the universe is non-local, meaning that this table is not just a table. It's actually made up of billions of particles that are creating the illusion that it is a table. And so what this means is that over time,

if we start to tap into this information somehow, if we learn how to tap into this information and utilize it, we can create all kinds of crazy feats of extraordinary, we can create some all kinds of extraordinary feats. And this can lead us to somehow understand how these UFOs are doing what they're doing. I've analyzed some papers in my books written by NASA back in the 70s

that we're talking about this. They were talking about zero point energy. So what we're realizing through all of this is that all around us is energy that is existing. Right? It's like a sea of energy that we haven't understood how to tap into yet.

but maybe these UFOs or whatever they are have learned how to tap into this and so if we can learn how to with our consciousness tap into these zero point energies that are existing around us we can theoretically levitate we can theoretically speak to one another through telepathy we could theoretically travel them faster than the speed of light well I was going to say what about like remote viewers people do remote viewing or people to say they've had near death experiences where they've been in the room hovering above their body watching what was going on and then and then when they come back they're like you know hey you know my son is here you know and they're like how do you know he's here well i saw him earlier you know

he came in the room and the doctor pulled him out and the nurse they so can you tell him to come in they're like how would you even know that sort of thing like they could describe what people had on they could describe all kinds of stuff astral projection remote viewing yeah all of that and like the mystics of our times have known all of this for hundreds of years. I've spoken on these ideas of traveling outside of the body, meditating to the point where you can leave your body and stuff like that. And lucid dreaming is a smaller form of this. And so we're starting to realize quantum physics and all of this that our universe is non-local, meaning that we can bend space and time, that we could eventually tap into this as a science as a fuel source

and create apparatuses that could travel faster than the speed of light and possibly even bend space and time so that we could travel from one point of the universe to another instantaneously if we could somehow figure that coordination. Like a wormhole or something, right? Exactly. And all of this is ultimately done

through the science of consciousness. Because what we really are is consciousness. Sciences have realized that we don't live just one dimension. We live in a multiple dimensions that are stringed together by an infinite dimension. And we interface through all of those with consciousness. And so if we were to learn how to tap into all of that, it would be through the power of consciousness eventually. Okay. I know you repeat that I was wondering about was the

Can you explain you the book The um The Lucifer Wait a minute Hold on Damn it It was a it's not ladder Mysterious something right

What is it? Yeah the Lucifer mystery revealed Lucifer mystery revealed Lucifer mystery revealed. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. So that was technically the second book I wrote.

And I wrote that during like the pandemic years pretty much. And I basically just set out to analyze and research who Lucifer was. You know, where did that whole idea come from? And when I did, I realized and I learned that there actually never was a Lucifer in the Bible. Lucifer doesn't exist in the Bible as the character that we know. know him to be. And the reason we got there, or the reason or how we got to Lucifer being a character was through a series of mistranslations. So the entire world was introduced to Lucifer through one verse in the Bible, and that is Isaiah 1412, which is the famous, O Lucifer, how art thou fallen

verse. But that's how we read it in the English. The English was translated from the Latin where we first see the word Lucifer. Right. Sorry. I was just thinking about what you said earlier about the Charlie Brown teachers. Yeah. I'm probably sound like that right now, dude. Oh, my gosh.

And I've had to explain this. I love talking about this, but I've had to explain it so many times. You have to know your audience. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But so the world was introduced to Lucifer. through this one verse, and the English was translated from the Latin. And in the Latin is what we first learned about Lucifer, because that is a Latin word.

Lucifer is a Latin word comprised of two root words, Lucis and Ferre, which is light and to bring, which is where the occult got the idea of Lucifer being the light bringer or light bearer. Right. But the Latin was translated from the Greek, and where we would see Lucifer today, in the Greek we would see phosphorus, phosphorus, which is fire, light and all of that. But all of them were translated from the original, the Hebrew. And in Hebrew, where we would see Lucifer, we would see Halel Ben Shahar, which means halel, the shining one,

son of Shahar. And Shahar is another word for dawn or morning. And that's why we got Lucifer son of the morning. But Isaiah, the prophet and scribe who wrote all of this, wrote Halel Ben Shihar for a very specific reason. At that time, the Babylonians were descending upon the kingdom of Judah. And so he was writing a polemical prophecy about their downfall. And he was referencing an old Canaanite mythology of a deity named Halel. And in this ancient mythology of Halel, we learned that Halel attempted to step up to the throne of Baal, who was an old Canaanite god, but was not strong enough to,

to rule on the throne, so he stepped down. And so Isaiah was basically saying that the Babylonians were like Halel Ben-Shahar, Halel, son of Shahar, who attempted to step up to the throne of God, who was the Canaanite god, but was not powerful enough to do so. But it gets even more deep. There's a lot of entangra here, because halel, phosphorus, and Lucifer, and even the Canaanite deity that was being referenced to, were all represented by the star or planet Venus.

And Venus is the brightest object in our skies preceding the morning. And so what Isaiah was saying to us was that the Babylonians believe and think that they are like halel. They think they are like Venus, the brightest object in the sky, but they would soon be overshadowed by God via the sun. all metaphorically and poetically speaking.

And so there never was a Lucifer. That was a mistranslation. Isaiah was simply using metaphors and referencing an old Canaanite mythology to condemn the Babylonians in a prophecy about their downfall. So what about, and you're saying that that character of Lucifer entered into our consciousness and then continued in what and there were and then it got written into the writings of the Bible because I mean what about like you know Adam and Eve what

about you know a fallen angel you know that there was a war between the angels and God and they were cast out as you know demons or like what about all of those so what happened is is over time we kind of weaved all of those different different stories into one story. All these books were written over the spans of hundreds of years. Genesis, right, the Garden of Eden story was one of the very first that was ever written, right? And that was written like during 600 BC around that era. The New Testament was written hundreds of years, several hundreds of years later. So we slowly weave these stories that at first had nothing to do with each other into some like archetypal story. But within the church, what happened is some of the early Christian writers were looking

at Isaiah and what he said and misunderstood it. And one of the very first people who did that was Oregon Adamantius. He was writing during the second century of the common era, one of the very first Christian writers. And he tells us in his book titled Dead Principis that he came across the book of Isaiah and saw this story about this Lucifer guy. And it was like super excited about it. Like, wow, Isaiah is telling us that there's this other power in heaven named Lucifer and so on and so forth. And so he ran with that. And a lot of the early Christian writers also ran with it because they didn't understand the cultural context. They didn't understand the Canaanite mythologies. And neither did we actually until the 20th century. This story about Halel Ben Shahar

all of that, we didn't learn about it until we uncovered it during the 1930s, actually. During the 1930s, we uncovered what are now known as the Bail Cycle Text. And in these texts, we learn about these mythologies that Isaiah was referencing. And so, again, it comes back to this idea of us being arrogant, thinking that we can just pick this thing up and read it and go preach on Sunday about it without taking into account the cultural context of the ancient polytheistic worldview in which it was born out. of. Sorry. No, and so yeah, so to answer your question, it's like it was just a series of misunderstandings and mistranslations and we just ran with it to the point where it's a TV show now,

you know, Lucifer and all this stuff. And it was never meant to be interpreted that way. And also to get to the other point you made about the fallen angel, there is a fallen angel mentioned in the Bible, specifically in Ezekiel, but that angel is referenced to the angel in the Garden of Eden story. And there is a war on heaven that is mentioned in the book of Revelation. But those things, neither in those stories is Lucifer mentioned. We're just told that there was an angel, but that angel is referenced, that is being referenced, is the angel in the Garden of Eden.

And so in my book and in the documentary, I say that if there ever was a Lucifer-type character, it was that being in the Garden of Eden story. and this is where things get interesting because this is where it connects to the Anunaki so the Garden of Eden story as it goes as we all know, you know, Adam and Eve were tempted or whatever by this serpent, this snake. Now in Hebrew we were told that this Nakash,

this serpent was wise. It was a wise serpent. And I believe that it was told to us that way, described that way specifically because it was referencing an ancient Anunayon deity by the name of Enki. Now, we already know, as I've explained earlier, and as you can see in my books and documentaries, it's obvious that the Sumerian mythologies of the Ananaki influenced the Bible.

And all Assyriologists, all Assyriologists, pioneering Assyriologists and historians of today agree that if there was ever an Anunaki who was considered to be the wise one, it was Enki. And Enki, in all of the Sumerian mythologies, and some of those that followed after in the Akkadian and Babylonian versions, he was always represented by a serpent, a snake. That was his symbol. And so the Garden of Eden angel, the angel who fell was the Anunnaki god Enki, who throughout the Sumerian mythologies is always going against the other Ananaki. For example, in the flood story, as told by the Sumerians, him and his brother, Enlil, make a path. not to tell us about the flood, but Enki goes out of his way to tell us. So throughout the mythology, he's always like this whimsical character

who's always has our back and going against the other gods, and he's this wise guy who's always represented by the serpent. So what I say in my book and my documentaries is, if there ever was a true Lucifer throughout our history, a fallen angel who wanted to give us knowledge and help uplift us, It was Enki, the Anunaki God. Okay. It's, I don't know, when you were talking, it just made me think of,

have you ever, have you ever heard, read any Anne Rice? I know of the name, but no, I've never. So, she wrote The Vampire Chronicles for our vampire diaries. Yeah. Like, did you ever see, interview with the vampire? I haven't watched it, no. Anyway, she wrote a whole bunch of books. One of them, it's funny, it's one of my favorite probably lines is it's God and the Devil in the Paris Cafe.

And it comes up over and over again throughout several of her books with one or two of the characters. And it's this guy who studies the occult, right? There's an actual organization that kind of runs throughout Anne Rice's books. And there's an organization, I want to say it's in London. that studies the occult and they know of the existence of vampires and these different types of beings. Because she doesn't just do vampires. She's got different, whatever.

And so she, well, there's a guy who's in Paris in a cafe and just smoking and drinking and sitting there. And he overhears a conversation. Now, he's one of the occultist guys. that study. So he's very plugged in to kind of, you know, the whatever, collective consciousness or the occult or whatever you want to call it. He's plugged in, right?

He's very aware. And he happens to, and it's a busy cafe. He happens to kind of lean back and he can hear a conversation. It's an argument between God and the devil. And I think in the book, I think it's called a. Mimok the devil is the name of the book. So in this, actually one of the main characters, Lestat is also in that book, too, like from interview with the vampire.

So he's hearing this conversation, and it's like a tear in the fabric of the universe where he could actually hear what's going on. And he lists, he sits there, and he's like in a very short time span, he could hear this this conversation, this argument between God and the devil that's been going on for centuries and he can hear it. And what you learn throughout the whole book, which is probably about 100 pages too long, but throughout the whole book, what you end up hearing, what you learn once you read it is that the devil is arguing with God. The devil is like, like it's, it's Mimnok, they, you know, the translation is Mimnok, which is it like, it's like Michael, right?

So Mimnok is arguing with God who is, and he is saying that God, you've created, you've created the earth and these creatures that have evolved. And this, this one creature, you know, humans, which are very much like us, the angels, they've, they've evolved to such a way that they actually have spirits. and they're but they're unhappy like the spirits once these things die these spirits aren't going anywhere they're kind of hovering around the earth like they're still there but their bodies are and they're in agony they have nowhere to go and he's like can i go down there and bring them up here and god says you know he says no no we're watching the earth we're just watching this this happen

and if that's what happens and that's the natural progression and they'll stay there and they'll be fine. He's like, yeah, but they're in pain. He's like, yes, but they don't know of us. And he's like, well, that's the whole problem, God. They don't know of us. Let me go down there and explain to them

and tell them about us. And he's like, no, no. So this argument goes off forever. Eventually, God says, listen, you can go down there and find the best of those spirits and bring them up here. And he goes, okay, I'll do that.

So he goes down and he kind of comes up with like a criteria. And he finds this group. And most of the spirits are angry and bitter and furious and they're in agony and pain. And they're just wandering. You know, they're just spirits. They have no bodies. And they don't understand what's happened. Like we were these humans and we died and now we're aimless.

And but there's a group of them that he notices that almost, I think kind of describes them as glowing. And I may be getting some of this wrong because I read the book 10 or 15 years ago, although it did read it a couple times because one, one, I liked the series, but I really liked this one explanation. And a group of them that were kind of off away from the other spirits were almost like a luminescent, right? Like they were glowing. And he noticed that when Memnott goes to them, he notices that they're not, they don't have this angry, this inner. right, this violent anger in them. And what he understands is that they've come to an understanding that they realized, like, they realized that they were lucky to have lived and that they don't understand what's happened, but that they're okay with their existence. And he says, oh, I have to

bring these up. These are great. They're going to fit in perfect up here in heaven. So he scoops them up and he explains to them about heaven and he brings them up and they populate heaven and they're every they're all over the place and god says look what you've done is good these are great i understand he says right right he says um they and they've accepted that they were created and they lived and they're just thankful to have lived at all that they were even placed in existence and so he explains it to god and god says yeah that was a good choice that was a good choice and so mimnach says okay well what about the other ones and god said And then this is what the, this is what the problem, this is what starts the war in heaven.

This is Anne Rice's version. Yeah. And what she's, and God says, no, no, the other ones don't deserve to come. And he says, well, no, God, he said, you don't understand. He said, they don't know about you. These beings came to an understanding that they were lucky to have lived and they're thankful and they're okay with having existed. So they're humble and they're thankful for.

what they got. But the other ones don't even know. If I were to tell them about you, then they would be enlightened also. And then they would be like these beings and I could have come up. And God says, that's enough. Like, you complained, I gave you this. That's it. The other ones stay. Well, that's what the argument in heaven is that God doesn't want spirits to come to heaven. He wants them to stay on earth and suffer. And Mimnach is, and the devil is saying, it's not fair, because they didn't, they didn't come to that understanding. And so God casts Mimok out of heaven and he now lives on earth trying to convince these beings or humans that they have to suffer enough or something along that to understand that they're lucky to have lived so that their

spirits will go to heaven and that that's the that's and i'm probably you know not explaining it as well as she does because like when you read it you're just like wow so when you read it you come you almost come off with an understanding that that the devil isn't really evil yeah that god is unfair and the devil just wants the best for us He wants us to be able to ascend to heaven. So what he's down here doing is really trying to elevate us to go to heaven. And God has closed the doors. So when you read it, you're just like, wow.

Like you read it's like, wow. Like that's an amazing. She's taken that whole war between God and the angels. And she's just twisted it enough for you to go to almost resent. God. It's really pretty. It's a complex and beautiful irony. And you know what's wild is, again, the Bible reveals itself in Genesis when we eat of the fruit. God tells us exactly right there in that passage what he really thinks of us and what he really intended for us. When we eat the fruit in Genesis, God or the Elohim say, now they have become like one of us, to

no good and evil. So we become like them, the gods, the Elohim, to no good and evil. And he says, basically, let's kick him out before they should take from the tree of eternal life. Right. So he doesn't want us to live in whatever. God right there in the Bible was saying right in the very first book, he never intended for us to know good and evil fully, basically not be conscious and never intended for us to have

eternal life. Well, there's lots of things. He says, I'm a jealous God. I'm an, you know, I'm a vengeful God. But it's wild when we look at it philosophically and religiously. But as from a historical perspective, I understand why it's said that way because there's a Sumerian story that it's kind of borrowing from. There's a Sumerian story in which Adoppa, the first created being, is given the opportunity

to go to heaven. And Anki, the whimsical, wise serpent god, for whatever. reason was kind of jealous of him and tricked him and said, hey, you're going to go meet my father, Anu, the king of the Ananaki, and he's going to offer you food and drink. Don't take it. He was trying to kill you. And so Adap was like, all right, cool. And he goes to heaven and Anu offers him food and drink. And if had he taken that food and drink, he would live forever. But he said no, because he thought Enki was telling him the truth. Right. But it was all backwards. And so a lot of Assyriologists and historians have concluded that that Samarian story is where the influence of the Garden of Eden story came from.

And so there's so many different ways to look at this. But I love to look at things from all perspectives. In the work that I do, I have to look at it as a historian. But as a person, I get a lot of benefit and value from looking at it philosophically, mythologically, religiously, spiritually. But ultimately, I know that these things just simply came from you. human stories. Yeah, they've, yeah, almost all the stories in in the Old Testament. You can pull from different stories that were written in different religious texts prior to that. And plus, you're, you're talking about stories that weren't even put on paper for hundreds and

hundreds of, I mean, let's face it. I, my ex-wife and I can tell the same story from 15 years ago. Same party. We were both there. And I'm telling you right now, you will get a completely different story for the same time, same event, same thing that happened, completely different. You were really drunk. I wasn't even that drunk. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this happened, that happened. No, so-and-so slapped so-and-so. No, he didn't. He never even touched him. What do you talk? He just pushed him. You know, it's like, wow, like the, like you imagine over hundreds and hundreds of tellings of those stories how much they alter. So, and plus, you know, there's like, you know, it's not like there's, what is it? Four Gospels. Like, there's something like

a dozen gospels. Like there are some gospels that just didn't make the cut. Yeah, we don't like the way you describe this. And that one, that one, like there's all these gospels. Oh,

yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's like when you're speaking to, like, to a priest, you know,

that's the authority. So what he says goes and that's, that's the version you run with. So, you know, like you said, you know, it's the same thing.

Especially since they were passed on throughout the ages. Like, who knows what happened, how much they've been altered. Oh, yeah. To me, it's a mixture of being altered, a mixture of human error. Right. And something's just simply being lost. Since you, it sounds like you believe that there's a spirit, what do you think happens to us when we die? You think you meet Mimnok and he kind of says, you're a pro?

Straighten your act up. Look, man, I think there's a difference between thinking and believing, knowing and believing. I don't know, and to be honest, sometimes I just feel like nothing happens. But what I believe, what I believe happens is one of two things is going to happen. One, you're going to basically just be recycled. Whatever your mind is, whatever consciousness is, it's going to be recycled. into something or two if you're strong enough in your consciousness if you know who you are um in your in your mind you have that fortified consciousness that self-realization that the mystics

have been trying to teach us to accomplish over the thousands of years when you die it's going to be similar to how we ease into a dream you know how when we ease into a dream we kind of forget this life and there's that one point where everything goes black and then all of a sudden you're in your dream world. I think it's similar to that. If we're not fortified in our consciousness when we fade into death, it can be very easy for us to forget all of this and get into some weird samsar recycling soul trapment thing. But if we remain strong in our consciousness, I think we could ease into that transition, hold our, hold our consciousness and then whatever that realm is, I don't think it's heaven or hell. I think it's heaven or hell. I

think it's just the beginning of a multitude of dimensions. But the very first step is maintaining that consciousness, that identity through the transition. So what do I think is going to happen is we're going to be met with just some unfathomable dimension. And we're going to have an opportunity right then and there to either continue or be recycled. That's what I believe. Hey, I appreciate you guys watching the video. If you liked it, do me a favor and subscribe to the channel. If you haven't already, make sure you hit the bell so you get notified of videos like this. Also, leave me a comment in the comment section.

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