Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Avoiding Booty BANDITS in prison

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

Avoiding Booty BANDITS in prison

He go, you might want to do that a little bit later. I said, do what? Shower? I go, listen, man, I just got off of work, man. I'm going to shower now. He goes, hey, player, you might want to do that a little bit later. I say, hey, listen, man, I'm not going to do it a little bit later. So then he says, hold up.

So when he says that, like, I turn to look and he's got a guy. Did you ever see anyone in prison get their chief? clapped by another inmate. I, first of all, I don't even know what, I'm not sure what that is. But what do you think that is? I don't, I hear guys say that all the time. They say like, Big Hurt going to come clap them cheeks or something. So are you saying that Big Hurt is going to slap them with your hand?

Or is he going to make them clap? I don't understand. Is this a sexual? Of course it is. Okay, I don't know. Look, it could be cheeks. Like, it will, bow, like punch you the face, cheek. Yeah.

You got cheeks on your face. You got four. cheeks. Yes, you do. Okay. So, I mean, well, I have, and it's to, um, the, um, when I've heard the clapping, it was to 50 cents, um, going to the, in the club. Stop. What are you doing? I'm sorry. This is serious. This is serious.

Go into the club. All right. Sorry about. What, what is this? So what was the question? Have you ever seen? Yes. No, no. And usually if someone gets, yes, if they get their cheeks clapped, that's not something you want to see. Anyway. No. Well, here's what I did, what happened was I did hear a guy. Getting clapped? Getting raped.

Like I heard the screaming, the fighting, the whole thing. Wow. And this was when I was in the Marshall's lockup and I was on the bottom cell and he was in the, they were in the upper right hand corner. And later we, when I found out later, like the next day they were both gone. But like the, but when I heard what happened because obviously they have different levels. different stories in the, it was, it was called Atlanta City Detention Center, ACDC. Yes.

So, so in that we later found out from somebody who'd been in one of the cells with the guy that got raped, he came down, he told everybody, okay, this is what happened. It was such a weird situation, bro. Like, like the guy got, his cellie was a punk, and he got into a fight with him, where he was saying that he was hitting on him. And so he then beats him up and rapes him. Wow. So you're saying, you're mad at the punk because you're saying he's flirting with you

or he's hitting on you. So you get angry, you then beat him up and rape him. Like, that doesn't, well, it's like if you're going to accuse me of this, why not do it? Like, you have a situation where your wife may accuse you of cheating. And I get that situation. Like, I can see that one. You're already saying I'm cheating on. You might as well go ahead and sleep with my secretary.

That's right. Okay. I hear you. So if you're, if you're right. But if you said, Matt, I think. you're flirting with me. I wouldn't be like, what? Boom, boom, boom, drag in the bedroom and yeah. No. First of all, is it rape if the guy puts on some soft music and light some candles? Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe it's love. So here's, maybe it's love. True. So here's a

situation I seen when I did county time. Well, I wouldn't, yeah, I would say seen, you know, so, and I forgot about it. Saw. It's actually technical. Saw. But go ahead. Seen. Saw. Saw. See. It's saw. This is what I saw, not what I seen. Okay, you're right. Okay. My mom would be upset about me getting that wrong. All right, this is what I saw.

So I worked when I was in Cobb County in Georgia. Oh, I know, horrible. So I... In county, not the U.S. Marshals hold over? This is county. So there, it's horrible. Like, everything's open. A different class of criminal.

Oh, my gosh. It's open. So when I first. first got there, right? They had, the toilets were like, you got to imagine like a line of toilets right here, a petition about this high and then bunk beds. So I had to sleep, when I first got that, I had to sleep on the bed that's right here and the toilets. So if I'm sleeping and I turn over to face the bathroom, like I sleep on my side, I'd turn over. I'd wake up and there'd be somebody sitting right there on the toilet. Like I wake up and look them right

in the eyes. Like, Jesus Christ, they turn over immediately. are like hey good morning what's up joe i had a guy i heard a guy say that the like the toilets were all lined up yes and they said guys will go and sit like this was this was in prison there were no partition walls so they would sit on there so they just the toilets are like two feet apart he said the guy but no partition oh no partitions yes that's what i'm saying there was no partition okay so he well this guy said that he literally guys would come there with like a magazine of course the magazine's all taped up you know for like a oh yeah of dirty pictures magazine it's all taped up and they would come there

and they would fucking get like their their um whatever lotion and they just pull that out and start and they sit on the toilet and jack off looking at the picture

while you're trying to taking a shit next to them or trying to pee in the and the guy's just sitting there yeah you have to like what's going on people are animals you've no idea how people are animals

you have to really zone get into your own zone and ask yourself what did you got yourself into so what happened all right so what happened is, all right, this is how bad it was. Like, I worked on the, where I cleaned the courthouse and the, all of the police center.

So we went there at night. So my job was at night. I'd get back at midnight. Like, I'd go to work at about six, clean up different office buildings, government office, county office buildings, and get back about midnight. At midnight, I would get a shower. So I get in, grab my stuff for my shower, and I'm the only one in this unit that came back at night.

So I go and I get in the shower. And as I'm getting in the shower, because you know, like we said, you have to be in your own zone. As I'm getting in the shower, like I see someone like standing there. Like I don't know what he's doing, but he's like standing, moving, standing, you know, but I don't look. So he's like right here and the shower heads over here. So I just go and I get in the shower and I, you know, I turn the water on. I start showering and I hear, hey, hey, a player. He calls me player.

I never forget this. Hey, player. I'm like, yo, what's up? He goes, you might want to do that a little bit later. I said, do what? Shower? I go, listen, man, I just got off of work, man. I'm going to shower now.

He goes, hey, player, you might want to do that a little bit later. I say, hey, listen, man, I'm not going to do it a little bit later. So then he says, hold up. So when he says that, like, I turn to look, and he's got a guy against the wall and he has to actually take three steps to back out. of the guy like do like as he's backing up of course I glance

and I'm like holy slog and you said maybe I should do this later I'm thinking I should do this a little bit later yeah I grabbed everything it's like I was moving in reverse putting my clothes back on as I back out of the shower

and haul ass yes I've seen some clapping But I really didn't see the clapping. I just saw the exit of the clapping. Okay. So I didn't see the clapping, let's say. So one, I told you the rape because I was thinking more like a rape type thing. Right.

Also. But I have like in the low, there were cubicles. Right. There was a time when I walked by a cubicle and there was this old man. God, he was old man Puerto Rican didn't speak English. God, I forget what his name was. He was probably in his 60s. he had a young punk boyfriend who was probably in his late 20s, early 30s.

What was his name? Aaron? Anyway, it doesn't matter. So the old man ran a store. You know, like people, a store is where they basically keep all, they keep almost everything in commissary in their locker and in other people's lockers and you can buy it. So you go and you say, hey, I want a honey bun that's $2, but you give him three bucks and he gives you a honey bite. So it's right there. You don't have to wait a week to go.

Right. You know, people run out and they run up a, and then. then he'll he'll also they'll also give you a credit right so then at the end of the end of the week they go and they say hey here's you owe me $40 I want you to buy this from commissary for me and so he's constantly just turning all like you she's making a bunch of money just doing the books right so he had a boyfriend gosh I wish I could remember his name because he was so funny he only used to say what he was in Puerto Rico he'd shot two cops and he killed a cop in Puerto Rico back in like the 70s and he got like 10 or 12 years he's like I killed a cop in

Puerto Rico I got 10 years so he did 10 years he was I came here I sold a I sold a little bit of crack they gave me 30 came to the United States and was selling crack and he got 30 and he got 30 he got 30 he got like 10 or 15 years but he only did 10 in Puerto Rico gets out when he's 30 comes to the United States start selling crack boom they crack him in the head and give him like 30 years so he's got this kid who's a punk and so one day I'm walking by his cell and he had a lookout but I walked by the cell

and the lookout wasn't paying attention and I walked by the cell and I wasn't getting anything from the store I just happened to walk by and I glanced over and I was like holy Jesus he had that dude spread eagle holding his I don't assume he's holding his shit to the side or something I don't know, and he's hitting it, guys spread eagle and he's banging away. Here's what's funny about that.

So I, just for like a split second, I was like, whoa, and I just kept walking. What was his name? Anyway, here's what's funny. So it got out that this is, that he's seeing this guy. He'd been seeing it from, but when I say got out, I mean, got all the way back to his family in Puerto Rico. His two daughters fly into the United States, come to visitation, like we're talking immediately. he goes to visitation and in visitation they tell him no and he goes I'm lonely I just I need companionship and they're like no no you get rid of him the absolutely no we don't want to hear anything more

about this it's a no so he comes back from visitation he calls the guy in there and breaks up with him and keep in mind he's basically just on the payroll right so he's getting free stuff I mean he's fattening them up. I mean, so, yeah, so that went on for, they, God, I, oh, it's his, I can think, I can't think of his name. Anyway, maybe a couple months later, it starts up all over again. Of course, he's lonely. He's lonely. He's lonely. And it was good, you know, it was good. Then the other thing is there was this little tiny Mexican that was probably a hundred pounds. And I remember coming into, I actually write this in one of the books, I write about how I come into the unit one day and looked over and there was I there's like a little 12 year old girl 13 year old

girl sitting on a locker kicking you know how the lockers are about that high kicking her feet with pigtails singing to like madonna or you know whatever lady gaga and she's like going back and forth kicking her little legs and I walked by I was like the fuck did that fucking how's there a 14 year old or 13 year old little girl in here and I was like like oh my god oh yeah that's uh that's not like you mind they they had three different punks at the low that had breast jobs titty job oh you know that was a problem so titty jobs and one of them had the whole set titties facial cheek implants and the butt the hip thing but this was just a little tiny thing erika her name was erika very popular very popular looked like a little 13 or 14

year old girl and i mean you want to talk about the the freaks coming out of the woodwork every guy that was out there that wasn't was now all these dudes are like able willing to convert listen listen erika had new shoes of tons of commissary very popular and so one day i went into the bathroom at like one o'clock in the morning because i'm you know and typically you didn't go into the bathroom after after lights out like i peed got my but they peed they did they did count i laid down you don't go in there because that's where it's it's sodom and gomorra and i it's like one o'clock in the morning i had to go in i go in the bathroom and erika's in a shower stall with some do you see like you know first of all you saw two legs but you heard something

going on some lot of grunt and then next thing you know boom the little legs drop down walks out sachets down the thing and i'm like unbelievable and then like two three minutes later this fucking dude comes walking out and I glance over at him he glances at me he's just like fuck yeah bro yeah I've seen that um so bad so I mean I've seen little bits and pieces here and there but I've like a full on the full on only full on one I saw was the old man I for yeah I love that the do you wow did you hear that yes of course I was trying to act like maybe it wasn't on the mic. I don't know.

But yeah, definitely, bro. Like, I mean, I love that the, the daughter flew in and said absolutely not.

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So back to the video. All right. All right. So, hey, Matt, I got a question. First, let me say, I know you guys handle yourself physically, but do yours get concerned for the safety? Because I mean yours talk very blunt about a. opinions and maybe cartel guys listen to these pot what what is this guy saying bro i mean i don't

nothing all right we'll go to the next question yes yours so oh wait that we're worried about our family and this is not a good one either um have you guys been to england what experience did you have also any european adventures or possibly scams i mean i just got back from amsterdam there's no scams i've been to england i've been to me too i've been to like i've been all of it i never ran any scans when I was doing it. Funny, funny story. The fact I was traveling on a false passport. That's always a good thing.

Only funny stories I have is you, I forget, I absolutely forget that our beer content or our alcohol content for beer and drinks is about 13%. And in other countries, it's more in the 50s and 40s. And so you're one, you're thinking, okay. You're pint. that you can handle without a problem here will floor you over there. You're like, why?

I don't know why in there. Or you can walk into a McDonald's and get a beer. Yes. Forget about that. Or the fact that they drink beer on commercials. I wonder if that's rain. That's the air conditioner? That's AC.

Oh. So, all right. You have someone to ask, what Sesame Street character do you most identify where? you serious yes cookie monster of course don't be silly i would say oscar the grouch for you oscar the grouch yeah and i think i'm more ernie the the the black guy with the gay relationship with bert what happened the muppets oh i love the muppets yeah yeah the two old men i like the two old men oh yeah did the heckle them yeah from the yeah good times no that was

that was you know guys that you're calling me chainsaw in the in the comment section now you know chainsaw what's up bro i love that yeah so literally chainsaw he had 30 years didn't he no yeah i'm saying that i was calling i said i wanted to be called chainsaw oh that's right so now you're chainsaw all right um what kind of PTSD or pet peeves have you guys developed from being in prison what do you think i mean i wash my hands like real it was you should rush your hands anyway. But I wash them probably 20 times a day, maybe 30. I used to wash my hands like, I was constantly washing my hands in prison, especially not so much in the medium, but when I got to the low, because everything, you're sharing everything. Right. And I would say for the first

six months that I got out after the halfway house, I felt really, so it would feel uncomfortable. Like around 4 o'clock and 10 o'clock, I felt weird. Like you feel like I'm supposed to be in my cell right now like they're coming to count like it's constantly felt like I was they were going to come get me because it's like like they messed up and I shouldn't be out like they're going to come like oh Cox hey we just got something uh you weren't supposed to be released and I had that feeling for like a year or so I still have that a little bit trust more so now but a little bit I used to have that um the terminology I still say chow oh yeah yeah and um I still say what about sweetener what about sweetener yeah sweetener I still say

bunk instead of bed. I still have some of the terms. I was doing a, I was doing a, I was filling out my, a dating profile and I was like, basically I'm looking for somebody that's, I'm looking for a celly that will be down for the whole, uh, my whole bid. Absolutely. Absolutely. As a con man, what makes you think this guy is not a victim?

Or I'm not going to take advantage of this person. Or are we all at risk? They're asking, like, what makes you, what makes you target someone? Or what makes us not target someone. Right. But we, but we, we're really, we're, we're not, we're not, see, a con man, and this is why it has to be distinguished, a con man is someone like Barrington, remember? You know, con men take money from average people.

They, they're like salesmen and they, they convince a regular person to come off of their money. Right. Right. A scam artist is like someone that runs a scam for anyone that will fall for it. Like if I put on the internet, I'm selling solid gold coffee mugs and I really paint coffee mugs gold. That's a scam. Because anybody that will send me the money, you've fallen into my trap, right? And fraudster.

Fraudsters, I don't know. I mean, I kind of feel like they all fall under comment. But yeah, I see what you're saying. I was trying to think, like, fraudsters are basically trying to defraud banks and trying to, in my opinion. Well, you target, you come up with an idea to get money from a specific, I would think fraudsters are more institutional than just like con man or scam. Yeah, my U.S. attorney constantly referred to me as a fraudster, fraudster. He's a fraudster. Yes, me too.

Yeah. So, but a con man will directly, and to me a con man influences someone to give up their money. Whereas I think a scam artist actually doesn't influence. It's just kind of like something that's too good to be true and they take advantage of it. I think, I think a lot of times too, like I would, I mean, to me, it was just general. It was, it was general. Like if I was trying to get your information, it was general. It was like I would run to, if I was trying to get information to further my, a,

fraud that I was committing. It was I would run an ad and put it out there like hey you know good credit bad credit no problem you know home loans available call you know a free applications call and then the phone number. So to me it's like I'm not I don't feel like I'm targeting anybody specific like anybody that reads the ad and is interested in getting a loan they'll call like so I wasn't there was no right. So that was more scam. Yeah it wasn't like I was like looking at you and talking to you going yeah I can I can convince them to give me $100,000 right I just need your information so I can get the bank to give me a million. Right.

Like, I don't need your $10,000 or $100,000. I'll get a million from the bank just giving your information. Right. But it's amazing because, in my perspective, because con men actually do target people and they can persuade them to give them money. So they know their personalities. They know their sweet spots and their buttons to push that would convince that person, hey, this guy's pretty cool.

I can trust them. And I guess to pull them out of their bread. Or they make an offer that they think that they can't refuse. Well, that was the whole, like the Ponzi scheme type people that are like, hey, or Marcus Shrinker, the guy that jumped out of the plane that ran like a Ponzi scheme and he would, he ran a churning scheme too. So he would target people that he knew he could, like, he would target other pilots because he knew he could get in there and they spoke the same language.

So if you were both pilots, he knew they automatically trusted him. Right. And then he would try and get them to give. him their retirement fund so he could invest. And he targeted specific people because he had a connection. I definitely think that con men target people that they can make a connection with. Right. Or can show a benefit to.

Yes.