Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - BLAKE LIVELY SCAM EXPOSED | Ryan Reynolds Coworker Reveals ALL!

Episode Date: February 2, 2025

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I work with Ryan Reynolds. They're trying to cover up a crime. She used Taylor Swift, her best friend, to intimidate him. It's all very manipulative. The more little pieces that get released, the more we're like, oh, man, this woman is scary. This is like a Hollywood true crime. We're getting pieces coming out. Every lawsuit and every complaint that are filling us in on what actually happened.

And that's what I think myself and so many people are invested in. I didn't know who this Justin Baldoni guy was. No offense didn't really care. Right. But the more I'm learning about what Blake is. Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds seemingly did. They're trying to cover up a crime. That's what I really do think is happening here.

She came out with allegations of sexual harassment. That's how it started. There was a lot of drama in the summer when the film, it ends with us released. And a lot of people were sort of following the drama, wondering why was their drama? No one really understood until she later dropped the lawsuit like two days before Christmas to ruin all their holidays.

But that first drama was people were sort of just noticing that Blake Lively was not the nicest person. like she was a mean girl tone deaf for things that were being called out and just for sake of brevity like the two big things were she was promoting her alcohol brand about a during a film that's about domestic violence which was just a really bad look given that most domestic violence is triggered by alcoholism but she's you know named one of the drinks at the premiere after the abuser character in the movie it was just a really bad look and then beyond that people just got an attitude from her during all the junkets and interviews particularly this one of the junket that sort of resurfaced where she and Parker Posey, an actress, like really were just mean-girling this poor Junkett woman who posts the video. Like this is the interview that made me want to quit Hollywood. So there was just a lot of stuff piling up that made Blake not seem very likable. And that's where I got in on it. When that started happening and then Ryan was writing the movie, there was a point where I jumped in and many jumped in and it just became organically

viral because everyone was sort of like, what's up with Blake lively? She seems kind of, you know, B-word and mean girl and all these things. She had a lot of bad press and she refused to accept it. So what happened was I think she tried to re, you know, paint it all as I was harassed. He was retaliating. Right. It wasn't my issue. Yeah, yeah.

It's being spun against me and that's not what was happening at all. You know, it's funny. I saw an interview with there was a movie she did called a simple favor or a favor or something like that. It was a great movie. It's fun. What is the girl that... Anna Kendrick. But during...

I was way more into Anna Kendrick. I was like... Oh, yeah. She's adorable. Yeah. But during an interview, she mentions that, like, she makes a comment I remember about, like, not when she said something like, yeah, when she shows up for set or made some snide little comment.

And I remember the look that, you know, Blake gave her. And I just kind of remember thinking, something's up there. Like there's lots of little things that come out like, hey, you're not this sweet, wonderful person. And it's the same thing with Ron Reynolds. I was just going to say, yeah. Like, I love Deadpool, right? But you see these characters and you fall in love with them. And then you find out, oh, he's kind of a fucking tool.

I have a friend who used to play, go to Vegas. And I used to like Judd Law. He played next to Judd Law. Jude Law. Sorry, Jude Law, sorry, Jude Law. It's like Judd Nelson. Jude Law, yes. Jude Law.

So he said, I'm, and he's English. So he said, I'm playing cards with him. He said, and we're sitting there playing. He said, I mean, we're sitting there for an hour or two. And he said, these two girls come up to him and said, oh my gosh, you know, I loved you in, you know, whatever, cold mountain or whatever. You know, could I get your autograph? And he goes, I'm fucking playing cards. This is my personal fucking time.

is you fucking wankers he goes he says why is nobody keeping these fucking you know and he starts he freaks out and they're like oh my god and walks off and so they kind of somebody comes in and say hey you gotta come and they get rid of and then my buddy's sitting there and he's like like we had a you know talked briefly like he's like he didn't he just went off and and he was in the guy he looked at him and said he's like it's all the fucking time with these fucking wankers or whatever and he said my buddy looked at him and he goes I mean honestly brother, they just wanted an autograph. Like, what's the big of, he goes,

it's all the fucking time. You understand? It is. I'll defend them. Like, imagine being that everywhere you fucking go. Here's, listen, I'll tell you, and this may be the narcissist in me, but like, let's face it, if you're, if you're an actor, when you were struggling, begging to be able to make a living as an actor, you would have given your soul to do it.

Of course, but when you're playing, when you got money on the line, you're playing cards. I don't care. You're worth 20 million. Sign the fucking autograph. Be appreciative. You know? I mean, I agree with you in theory, of course, but I can see a little bit of like, I can't, but he was like, it never ends.

I mean, I can't imagine being a level of Jude Law. Like, every girl's just, you, it, I'd be thrilled. I'd be thrilled. Listen, I'm not saying that the, tell us in the comments down below. I'm saying, blessing or a curse. In general, people, I'm sure people recognize you, right? It's happened. Yes, it's happened.

Listen, I get recognized. It's happened to Target where I'm like, I'm having a fight with my wife or something. And that's where I get even most and secure about my God, did they, are they watching us? Are you about the frost of, Flakes. She's like, don't get those. I'm like, I want to get them. You know, like, and I'm like, oh, God, there's a fan watching.

It's happened where I'm like, hi. Oh, I drop everything. If somebody says, aren't you Matt Cox? I'm like, boom. Yes, I am. How are you? Let's take a photo. What's up?

No, I do that too. I'm thrilled. I know. It happens to all. And I'm always happy. You have to be, especially at our level where it's like, we're not Jude law. No offense. We're not a Jude law level of talent.

This is that guy saying hi to me and, oh, my gosh, I watch yourself. That's the reason I don't have to have a real job. 100%. What do you want? I have stickers in my wife. If someone stops me, I'm like, oh, hey, like in the middle, my wife is on top of it too. But we're like, hey, oh, my God, anytime someone says, I give you a sticker. And they love that moment.

We need stickers. When you give them that moment, of course you're, I'm with you. But I'm just saying, I can't imagine being at a Brad Pitt Jude Law level where everywhere you go, you can't do anything private. Like, it's not an excuse. I should have been nice. But that's all I'm saying, I can give them a little bit. But you're right.

It's like these celebrities can be assholes. Yeah. It's a reality. And that's why the people are expecting like, oh my God, yeah. And they're not someplace. Well, the Ryan Ryan Reynolds thing, I would think that he would be, you know, everybody, like, I see him as one person. And then the truth is, apparently he's not a nice guy. Well, it's funny. I worked

with Ryan Reynolds. Really? I actually worked with Ryan Reynolds. So that's where I've been conflicted about this whole story because I did a show called Honest Trailers way back, which is very popular, very proud of it. And we did the honest trailer for Deadpool. And we reached out to Ryan Reynolds. And he, ended up appearing in his own honest trailer we wrote the script for him he was so collaborative

like so nice like i had such a good level of like people would ask what's the best celebrity worked with and i was always like the rock and ryan reynolds were the two best people i'd worked with which i'd always heard problems with now granted they were being created with me that may have been on their best behavior because of who we were at the time but still i had really great experience and then even later he went above and beyond when we did a follow-up for our logan trailer so anyway it was weird because i went through with this like oh my god he really is the nice Canadian collaborative guy. What about the guy that plays the bartender in Deadpool?

So T.J. Miller, he, I mean, he has, he has, he has, many people have called him an asshole. Okay. And he was like, I mean, I don't, I'm not saying it was true, but there were a lot of allegations. He got canceled at a certain point, like, uh, and his castmates of Silicon Valley kind of talked shit. So he doesn't, he doesn't like Ronald. Well, he took it back.

He took it back. Oh. He took it back. So it's like, no, I watch that clip. How can you know if any of that is true? I think he's being truthful. I think he had a bad experience with Ryan. He called him out,

but I think it's not a surprise that Ryan can be a bit of a dick. Like, that's his humor. Right. He's, he is Deadpool. Like, it's so clear when he, he plays a facie. He's not an actor.

And Blake Lively is sort of trying to be lady pool and do the same type of thing. He's not an actor. He's like, he's like Vince Vaughn. Vince Vaughn plays Vince Vaughn in every single movie. Or Vin Diesel, exactly. Yeah, that's it.

It's one note. I would argue even the Rock. Exactly. They haven't shown much range beyond what they can do. But, you know, they do it very successfully. They're not Arnold.

Arnold's got all kinds of range. Kindergarten Cobb, you know, come on. Commando, total recall. Right. Get you as to Maz. Yeah, but I think that's part of the appeal of seeing for so many audience members of like, oh man, Ryan Reynolds and Blake lively are now like their stocks falling down for this. I've never seen a story in a long time, maybe, I mean, since Amber Heard, where I feel

like a celebrity's PR is so wrong. Yeah. Like the every step Blake Live. has done in this process just has made me dislike her more and more. And again, I'm not some Justin Baldoni fan. Like, I didn't know who this guy was. He was on Jane the Virgin and host some podcast about masculinity,

whatever, like, no shade. But I've only defended him because I've been watching Blake's sort of manipulation, narcissism, like, ego, manical. Like, there was a whole text that got dropped where she's like, she was basically, the real story, it seems, from Justin's lawsuit is she was trying to take control of the movie, like before it even shot. Justin wasn't just her co-star, director, producer, but he got the rights to the book before it was popular all over the world. And you could just tell she wanted the rights, so she wanted to control, she wanted to direct the movie.

And that's coming out in all the text exchanges and crew people, like they didn't have a good creative control, you know, connection on the movie. But there was a text exchange before even shooting where she basically, he admits that she used Taylor Swift, her best friend. Super Bowl is finally here. It's not just the biggest game of the year. It's the ultimate betting event. And if you're not on my bookie, you're leaving money on the table. Super Bowl betting isn't just about picking the winner anymore because my bookies got all the wild prop bets you can imagine.

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And we'll hook you up with a bonus to get you started. Bet anything, anytime, anywhere with my bookie. And Ryan Reynolds, her husband, who are both billionaire, crazy, famous people, to sort of intimidate him to accept her rewrites of a scene in the movie, like a key scene in the movie. She kind of bullies him into doing it and then, like, confronts him with both of them in the room. Like, I can't imagine suddenly your directness movie with your co-star. brought in two of the biggest celebrities in the world

to sort of mad dog you and like, what do you think of her scenes? Like, do you want to work again? Do you want Taylor to be involved? Like, as a Hollywood player, you've got to be nice to these people or they can burn you is typically what happens. And so Blake did it.

And we can see the text messages where she sort of, these two are my dragons. I'm Calisi. She's like calling herself Calisi from Game of Thrones and labeling Ryan Reynolds, the big one of the biggest stars and Taylor Swift, a huge star, as her beautiful monsters, her dragons.

mine like I don't know about you but if would you like finding out that your your your people are out there talking behind your back saying that you're their monsters and they that she basically uses you like for will for better or worse yeah it's weird for someone to yeah it's it's an odd thing to say in general yeah like she's manipulating and she's using her relationship with these people to get herself somewhere and I find it disgusting so that's kind of stuff keeps dropping and you're just like well so the the movie comes out we know that there's There's a bunch of drama going on. And then suddenly, and it's not looking good for her, so she drops a lawsuit.

I have a question. If you're an attorney and you sit down with her, like, wouldn't you have vetted what she's saying? Like, hey, like, Blake, is anything going to come out? Like, did you ever say, I mean, she's just going to, no, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I mean, wouldn't you say, oh, great, give me your, like, all of this is going to be subject to discovery. So he's going to get your text message.

He's going to get everything. He's got them on his phone already. Like, it's more messed up. Okay. So they stole all the text messages. just from one of the PR people. So it's like there's this legal gray area, sirs, I'm trying to say,

where one of the PR people who they're claiming did a smear campaign against Blake, which I don't buy. She, this is where we get more into the weeds of the story, but there's all these publicists. That's what we're here for. There are all these publicists that are getting exposed,

and that's part of the fun of this, too, of this true crime nature, just like. Publicists wouldn't twist anything. Of course, right. But that's their job to do, right? And so now they're being labeled, oh, you went too far. And it's like, really?

Isn't that what PR is all about? And so PR's now on this, you know, questioning block of just like, did they go too far? They went and found this woman, Jennifer Abel, who was a publicist, who was working for another woman named Stephanie Jones. These are key players. If you guys are going to get in this case, you've got to know. Stephanie Jones is like this notorious, toxic PR person, like alleged when the Rock left her, she then leaked all these stories that he was peeing on bottles on sets. always laid and was a pain in the ass.

And so when Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez left, she reped them too, she started talking about all this bad press about Lauren Sanchez. Like she's notoriously vindictive, manipulative, and not a nice person, according to everybody in town. This woman, Stephanie Jones, Stephanie Jones was doing PR for Justin Baldoni. I'm probably my son, your wife, probably, but I'm feeling you not strong. Everyone's like, how do you know all this? I'm into it.

Justin Biden, I know all the players. Justin Baldoni's like has a PR team including Stephanie Jones now Stephanie Jones and Jennifer Abel they're not getting along Jennifer Abel wants to leave she's a pissed off she wants her own firm she doesn't like the way Stephanie's doing it word gets to Stephanie Jones Stephanie Jones is livid Stephanie Jones figures out a way to fire her to remove her with cause and then brings a lawyer in and takes her phone on the spot before she leaves give me your phone confiscate we think you're you're stealing secrets or whatever it was Jenna Jennifer's freaked out and was like, oh, whatever, storms off, leaves her phone. They then unlock her

phone, steal her phone. Fast forward. Stephanie Jones, realizing that she lost, you know, one of her big persons. She wants to burn her forever. Allegedly, this is all in Justin's suit and what have you. She decides. On July 18th, get excited. This is big! For the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurf my pants. That's a little too excited. Sorry. Smurfs. Only later's July 18th to team up with Blake give all the stuff to Blake's team all the text and everything so they can go find all this PR stuff we're going to destroy you as all take it out of context they cherry pick a bunch of text messages they remove emojis and sort of sarcasm that's

clearly in the text when you read them all because Justin later reveals that but Blake doesn't pull Stephanie Jones as part of the people who were defaming her which she was Stephanie Jones somehow gets a pass And that's where we are So she used this toxic publicist To call out the other toxic publicist But was like, all right, we won't call you out Even though you were part of it

You were bad-mouthing Blake You were working for Justin We're gonna give you a pass because you gave us the phone Is how it looks like it came Now was this legally actually allowed to give the phone They were able to then pull all these text messages From the phone Blake lively puts them in her lawsuit

cherry-picked, like I said, removing a lot of context, and then puts a gag order literally the day, same day, that he can know long, Justin can't say anything about it, which it's like, what are you doing? Any lawyer you talk to is like, you don't need to put text messages in these complaints. Like, that's totally, you know, superfluous, it's a PR play. It's not a lawsuit at that point. But that's what it is.

Yeah, and Blake lively set the tone. She put the text message, she cherry-picked what she wanted. And now Justin wants to release all the text messages. He's like, I'm making a website, all the text messages, all the videos are come out because let's put it all out there if you're going to call me all the things you're labeled you started this and now she's terrified she's now but three gag orders a three rush to the judge we're going to find out about a week whether the judge is going to deem this gag order where she basically Justin's team can no longer defend themselves in public which is insane to me

but that's where we currently are just like he's he's slowly started putting video clips we have a video clip that goes against what she said in the lawsuit there's some voice memos every little piece of content we get from Team Justin disputes everything Blake said, and it makes her look awful. And then Blake doubles down and says, no, it's, you got to believe me, I'm the woman. It's turned into an absolute amber-her type of situation. And I try, and now, because I say that, I'm a misogynist, I'm a sexist. I'm okay with it. The whole trust, trust women, all of them, really? Like, like, really, I love, what's the name, Burr? Is it, I forget the, the comedian, where it's like, really? Like, you can't trust anybody. Not all men.

Not all women. You can't. No, no. There's too many examples. Too many bad apples out there. Right. Especially, here's the whole thing. It's funny when someone comes out in public and says a bunch of defamatory things about you.

And then you defend yourself and prove that they're not true. Suddenly they're like, you got to stop talking. No, you set the tone. So that's what this is. Now I'm fighting back. Then they go to, then they go to the courts and say, hey, let's shut this down. No. That's not how this.

works you don't get to say a bunch of stuff and then shut me up so um but that's the beauty like Blake it seems like Blake and Ryan thought they're all day of separate rules right right and I think we're now in a world where it's like no no more we don't want with celebrities we don't really care about your political opinions or all this nonsense and Blake and Ryan are starting to realize oh crap we can't just get whatever we want I I was watching a video I'm doing research for a book on a serial killer. And I was watching a criminologist talk about psychopaths. And one of the questions they asked was, what is one of the industries that has the most

psychopaths and Hollywood. Yeah, it was, it was Hollywood. It was like Hollywood. It was doctors. It was like a police officer. But the first one, she was like, yeah, she said entertainment. And I thought, wow. Like I didn't see that, but it makes sense.

but it only recently makes sense because 20 years ago I wouldn't have thought that at all but in the last 10 years or so I think just because of YouTube and there's so many influencers that are exposing their true behavior

but thinking back in the 50s and 60s the studios one of these guys would get drunk and they'd get into a DUI and they had their own security would go out and fix everything and sign this and sign this and NDAs and I'll pay you this much

and then they grab the guy, scoop them up and take care of them. And so it's always been happening. It's just too much unchecked behavior, I think, is what is the thing. It's like, there is a lot of it. When you get too big, especially these influencers, I mean, I've been guilty of it back in the day. You get so big, you don't know any better. You don't know, oh, wait, I had to pay my taxes on this YouTube money. Oh, I can't do this.

I can't do that. And so there are people. You surround yourself with yes, man. That's the problem. Yeah, and people surround themselves because you're famous or rich or have, you know, cloud online. And that can blur you too. So look, not to give an excuse. to some of the bad behavior, but you got to, you know, yeah, it makes sense why some of these

people fall in that trap. They need better support systems or friends or people to, like, remind them, don't be a dick. Yeah, I was going to say, you got to surround yourself by people that will be like, yeah, listen, you're an asshole. Like, don't, like, I get what you're saying, but you know what, if you're wrong, you're wrong. That's just the way it is. Yeah. You're wrong. I don't know, but you, I've been an asshole plenty of my career. Oh, my whole life. I'm just, you know, it's an balancing act at this point. It's a maturity. You certainly. It's a maturity. You sort grow and I don't know as I've aged I'm just like I don't have time for being an asshole or dealing with assholes yeah but you're you're being an asshole never lands you in prison

like like my being an asshole is landing me in prison a few times like yeah did that teach you or yeah the last sentence that that main sentence was like yeah you can't behave this way anymore this is not working for you but see you know so you were rehabilitated that's good it worked tried to tell me before that but I was like can't tell me I know what I'm doing but you would think the system did that that time did ground that was that is that what it was oh yeah that was it yeah you go to prison and i've said this a bunch of times like i have a buddy pete and he always says um and you know i was already in this mind frame when he said it but i was like the way he said it which was he goes you can't go to prison and continue to behave in the same manner that got you to prison

and then leave prison and not expect to come back like you have to mentally change. And that was, and that was it. I was like, yeah, I can't, I can't continue to be an asshole,

behave like a complete, you know, a dirtbag and get out of prison. Like, it's your, and you go to prison long enough, you realize, like,

you're better off sleeping in someone's spare room, taking the bus than you are. The best day outside is better than the, or the, sorry, the worst day outside is better than the best day inside. Yeah. So it doesn't matter how shitty it is outside.

You just, and just, you know, I just started saying, you know, I'm just going to be a detri. I'm not that I'm, great person.

But I'm going to make an attempt to be a decent human being and see how that goes. And that's turned out pretty good, you know? It's the whole Jordan Peterson thing, you know, like make your bed and, you know, like, don't lie. Yes. It's, you know, for any reason. Even if it's your own, your own detriment, like, just don't lie to people and don't, and, you know. Yeah, but then you got to play the whole game of, can I get away with this lie?

Am I lying? Didn't ask me. You know what it is? I just extremely honest. I'm like, look, I'm going to let you know, up front. boom boom boom boom good that's yeah that's the real key and when you do that it's funny because that actually builds uh builds trust where people like wow this guy's being so like i'm like you know you say listen i'm telling you you come on the program we can do this we can do this i

cannot promise you this and i'm letting you know now if you say something that's you know that that you're not okay with and we release the video and two weeks later you want to have it taken down that's not happening you know like i'm very honest up front on how this is going to work you know You know, oh, you, you want to come out? Great, we don't pay for anything. Don't ask me for an Uber. Like, I'm very, you know what I'm saying? Like the whole thing.

And then they're like, you know, damn, like this guy is being extremely up front. In my career, when I had my downfall, I didn't go to prison. It felt like it for a period. I lost everything. I got canceled. But it's like the thing I realized at that point was like the life is so much better when you're not trying to follow all the lies. Yeah, yeah. When you don't have to chase away, what did I do?

And oh, is this going to come out? Are they going to find out about this? Like that is the worst life I've ever had to live or I just was constantly living in fear. When you finally can tell your partner and everything's out and you have that safe comfortability, it's like, oh yeah, no, this is way better.

It's a way better life. Because you still fuck up. We're all human, of course. But when you have to be hiding shit, it can eat at you in a way that, you know, does make you an asshole. Yeah. And then it keeps you,

I have to stay this asshole to do that. And so I've been there. And thankfully now I'm at a place where I can just be a hermit with my family not have to deal with these assholes but as I'm sure you experience in the YouTube world we still have to deal with some assholes

and haters and people that it's like you can't make it you know it's funny you'll read the comments and there'll be like six people in a row saying what a great video thank you for doing this this is amazing and then some other guy would be like total snooze bro

and that's the one you focus on right oh of course I'm like you have a hundred nice positive comments and then it's that one shithead that you're like Yeah, I mean, I'm like, go watch fucking Netflix, bro. There's plenty of good docs on documentaries on it. Like, you know, and then my wife's sitting there.

I'm typing away. She's like, don't send that. It's good to have someone who can be like, should I send this? Yeah. I think all social media needs, are you sure button? Are you sure you want to send that? Yeah, there really should be something for the, for the creators. A second button that says honestly, bro.

Is this good? Is this the best decision? Hopefully AI can help get to that point where they can prove free to go, Are you sure about this one? Yeah. Okay, so what, so what are some of the things that he's released that have contradicted what she's saying? Well, we have a video if you want to watch it. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio.

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And at one point, you know, kissed her neck and said, you smell so good. And she felt incredibly uncomfortable because, Again, he was out of character. He wasn't speaking in character. And it felt very odd. Why would he do this? And it was inappropriate. Right.

Then she also said there was no audio. No audio, et cetera. So he released the video. You can watch the whole nine minute video. We can cut to a clip as he's just, they're dancing. And then there's a specific moment in the video where he is, you know, rubbing against her neck. And he says, did I get beard on you? Is what he says.

And she says, oh, I probably got spray tan on you. Right. And he says, oh, it smells good. And then she goes, well, that's actually my body makeup. And then they move on. That's the actual exchange that she removed all that context of it seems like it. And she had said that there's no audio, which means that you can say anything. Well, thank God he recorded the audio.

Right. Like there's no reason for you to, there's no reason for him to have said all those things. It wasn't like he was in character. Well, it's, of course, she's the one who's out of character. The whole scene she's talking about, we should be talking. She's trying to direct the scene. he's trying to get this moment where it's like they have the light behind him and they're doing the slow dance and the bars going crazy like they scored and they're lost in each other like dancing

and so that's the moment he's you got to remember he's acting and directing and as someone who's done that in his life I know how hard that is and I you know the feeling you're hosting you're directing you're producing you have a lot of you know we have a lot of things maybe not I at least I do maybe Colby has it more than me yeah Colby he knows what I'm talking about I'm just a talent but as a talent I'm hitting the buttons and I'm thinking what am I going to cut like my head's always move. I'm producing as I'm as I'm hosting. So I can relate to him in a moment where he's acting with this woman. Like did I get it? Did that feel right? Oh, I wish the extras while we're doing our kiss, I wish the extras had done this. Like I can I imagine he's got a lot of things,

you know, moving in his mind is what I'm trying to say. And so when I watch it, I see that. I see him trying to get into character, have a chemistry with this actress. Also did we get the scene? He's probably shooting more than he needs. Fine. I don't sense any uncomfortableness. I don't sense any meanness and she's the one who constantly interrupts to say we should be talking in the scene why don't we talking it's so much more romantic if we talk in the scene and he's like well we're filming in slow-mo like we won't see it and like and then I as he explains that even I'm like he's right like can you imagine the scene yeah it's like what talking in slow-mo would look awful in the movie it doesn't look good looking and everything people behind him in

slow-mo that's what they're going for but she keeps insisting on it she keeps trying to direct it we should do this, we should do that. And so she painted this picture that he was out of character being inappropriate, but it was the complete opposite. She's the one out of character trying to talk. He's the one who's clearly trying to bring it back to the table and nothing seemingly inappropriate.

They released that video and then her response is, that proves I was right. And like the whole internet goes, even people who are supporting her, they're like, Blake, I was following you, but that clip did not prove what you said. It didn't at all. she may have been uncomfortable, I guess.

It does seem a little uncomfortable, just as it would for any watching two actors create a fake love scene, but nothing in it read like she did in her lawsuit. And I think it was incredibly damning for her because that set the tone for, well, what else is real? Her credibility was shot. Yeah. If you line up 12 things that you're saying all of these things happen, and I prove that three of them absolutely did not happen. I now your credibility is don't like. I don't believe, I don't believe the other nine. Like you say, oh, yeah, but the other nine, fuck you.

You know, you lied about these three. You're just a fucking liar in general. You're done. It's funny. You would think that, oh, I get it. You're two high profile mega actors, right? You would think one of the two of them would get to a point. Instead, every time something comes out, they double down.

What's funny is when you surround yourself by yes men, you know, you tend to keep, doubling down because everybody's saying oh we can do this we can do this like hey hey but the truth is these people are you're paying all of them you can't really trust people that you're paying that are that are they're okay they don't really give a shit if you're if you're unless they're tied to your success right so you can't really trust those people so i always think of jlo that's what jalo does no one around her isn't working for her right like how do you how do you know what's ever true so so so you would think that one of the two of these people step back and say, listen, you're wrong? You know what I'm saying? Like, you're wrong? Even if you don't

think you're wrong, this has come out, it looks bad. All of this looks bad. We need to settle immediately and we need to come out with a formal apology or try and do something to say, hey, listen, things have been taken out of context. I may have done whatever. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to address it directly, but just say, look, bad spot. I was a bad type. I was a bad type. in my life, I fucked up, whatever the case may be, because if you apologize and you genuinely, and you're genuine in the apology, then most people are forgiving, but most people can't humble themselves to that point. And that seems like what's, I mean, here's my, I can give you insight on what I think everybody's dealing with. Justin Baldoni, from what I've gathered,

is like a hippie-dippy, religious guy. Like, he's just the type of guy who will just, thank you so much for having me in your space in the show it's such a lovely to be here to a point that I probably could get annoying for you like all right dude let's get to the meat of the conversation so like that's the harshest criticism I've heard about Justin is that he's a little

too lovey-dovey he maybe not as harsh as needs to be in this lawsuit that's the insight I get from Justin he wants to be friendly with everybody there's a new audio drop where he apologizes to Blake after being you know threatened by her and our friends to like I'm so sorry you didn't get to write

other scenes and movies. How terrible of me that I didn't notice this. You can just tell he's trying his best to please her, right? So that's Justin's mindset, I think, is more that. The problem is Blake also included other people. Wayfarer, his company, and his co-producer, it's funded by a really rich guy, this guy, Steve, he's a billionaire. He's funding this lawsuit, it turns out.

And if they didn't have him, I don't know how they probably wouldn't have been able to go against Blake and Ryan. Wayfair is a studio trying to do a lot of, like, for good projects. This Steve guy wants to do good, he wants to give away billion dollars before he dies like his whole intent is that he's seemingly tight with these guys and feels like they are good guys so there's other people involved in this lawsuit that i think have the bite that maybe justin didn't have that want to see it through there's also the publicists who are you're going against these alleged publicists who are smearing you they're not going to just

go down lightly and not fight back and they're allowed to fight back because they didn't sign any agreements you know like they're allowed to do so that's where i think it's coming from the justin's side of what are the what's happening behind the scenes that there's a lot of pissed off people who are defending their character, the truth. And if he didn't have them, he'd have, he wouldn't be able to defend against it. Correct. And he'd be toast and probably never work against. Which is probably what they were hoping for. Correct. I think 100%. Now you go to Blake's side, like, Brian, there's a lot of theories

that Ryan's jealous. Like maybe he was having a, you know, Blake and Justin, were they having a thing? Did Ryan sort of step in? That theory's been going out there. I saw Candace Owens is putting that out there. She's getting a lot of traction on this story. It's just sort of any tip she's gotten. She's trying to put out there as real. It's just frustrating to me because we're trying to really look at all the facts, and I don't buy that one. Sure, there might have been a little jealousy and insecurity. There's a junket and some stuff that was released. Ryan, like, inserted himself in the junket, like the interview period, where they ignored Justin and then interviewed the secondary male character, and Justin Brunnan his mom, Justin Brunner, Hugh Jackman, all

to, like, talk about how great he was, and did you want to hook up with my wife? It's a very weird clip, dude. It's a very weird clip. So it does bring up a lot of, like, is Ryan, I don't know. I also suspect, what does Ryan really know? I think Ryan is, in my experience, in working with him, he wants to support his wife. He's a nice Canadian guy. He clearly loves his wife. They have multiple kids. I think he's trying to be the better husband.

He allegedly was upset when Justin was fat shaming her. So there's a part of me that can't be mad at like... How was he fat shaming her? That's a whole separate story. She's a hundred and fucking ten times. Well, he has to, he had to lift her up in the air for a scene, allegedly. Right. And he has back problems.

And so he asked his fitness guy, his trust. trainer. Do you know how much she weighs so I can know like what to do? That's what apparently happened. Justin has that fat shaming. It's not. Justin didn't know though. The trainer is Ryan and Blake's like celebrity trainer who like is obsessed with them all over Instagram. And this guy went in a it seems went to Blake and was like, Justin's asking how much you weigh. Isn't that? Why is he asking me that? Which then whispered down the lane made it seem a lot more aggressive. That's what triggered apparently Ryan. How dare you fat shame my way? And that's how Ryan gets involved. There's a part of me that's, like, not mad at Ryan, because I'm like, okay, he's hearing, he's hearing a story

that he's believing from his wife and maybe overreacting, but that's sometimes what you do when you support your partners. You want to be loyal and have their back. So I, there's a part of me that wonders if that's what's going on with Ryan, you're shaking. Maybe there's I want to be a reasonable person too. Yeah. So there's that. And then, but then Blake, I try to think, well, what does Blake think? And I just look at Blake's history. She's beautiful. I can't deny that. She's always been beautiful from Gossip Girl. So she's got the looks. She comes from wealthy family, like you add those to the silver spoon up her ass, the good looks, the wealth, girls never had to work in her life. And I mean, that type of person, if not parented well

and not having her ego brought down could be a monster. It's like, and it's an Amber Heard situation, and it's similarly me, where it's like, I feel like she was just, you know, the way she met Ryan Reynolds was because she was with Scarlet Johansson and they cheated during Green Lantern as the alleged theory. And so she, you know, she does, and she a lot, you know, connects herself to these powerful friends and husbands. She gets what she wants. Exactly.

She's investigating what she wants at any cost. So, again, going with that theory, got to know her. That's my speculation, right? Going with that theory, I think she just thought, I'm going to win this. I'm right. Yeah, he was clearly looking at me. He wants to, he wants to fuck me. Oh, how dare he?

Like, I think there's a lot of it she probably believes it. She assumed she was going to win. She hired her fancy lawyers. get this through. I don't think her lawyers read all the text. I think her lawyers on all the information. They took the money. They know they're powerful. The agents, Ryan and Blake's agents, just fired Justin, which is crazy. There were a lot of other people who had accusations at WME that didn't get fired right away. They actually did investigations. In this situation, they just fired him because they can't afford to lose Ryan and Blake. That's where this whole

thing is. So it's wild because she's trying to paint Justin as her boss on the movie and that was a power dynamic and it's unfair that he made her uncomfortable. But I would argue she was way more powerful than he was. He's a nobody who has the rights of the book. And if he didn't have the rights of the book, she would have steamrolled and taken over that whole damn movie. And so if there was a power imbalance, it was Justin having to deal with this huge diva megastar

who's then bringing in her billionaire musician friend, her billionaire husband. And now it's like, if there's a power imbalance, it was with Blake. Because Blake has had no problems in the clips we've seen speak in her mind, taking control. but when he touches her neck she couldn't say don't do that I find that incredibly hard to believe it's all very manipulative and the more as like I said like a true crime story the more little

pieces that get released the more we're like oh man this woman is scary what do you what do you think happens I mean you think it actually goes a trial or you think there's some kind of a settlement or there's a part of me that thinks they're so stuck in their way like I don't think Justin's going to go anywhere he can't his career's kind of toast at this point he needs to keep it. I think there's a point where he'll probably get a new base of people who are going to support him more fervently than ever before. So I think he'll still make out okay, but I think they're stuck in their way. And then it's Blake and Ryan. I don't see, I've never seen Blake apologize. She did once. She apologized once when she called out Princess Catherine for her

Photoshop fail. I don't know if you saw that in the pop culture moment. There was a weird moment where Princess Catherine posted a photo and everyone was like, where's Catherine? Where's Kate? There was all these theories that she was a clone that was going around. And she posted So this photo, this photo that was clearly photoshopped. And that made everyone go even crazy. Even mom, like, did someone fake this photo? Is this AI? Like, what the hell?

And Blake made a Photoshop joke when that all happened. And then a week later, Catherine comes down and she's like, I have cancer. And then everyone's like, oh, damn. So Blake, that was the one time I've seen her apologize because she got caught telling royalty that she was photoshopping when she had cancer, it looked awful. And there was no if-ends or butts around it. And that's when she did do an apology. I've never seen her doing it.

But again, why did she do that one? Because it was someone even more famous than her. I feel like she's like, I can't offend royalty. Right. I am royalty. So I have to clear this error. But I mean, Baldoni is saying that he's lost jobs and he's lost money. I believe it.

Like, so he's got a great grounds for a loss. Like to me. Legally, no, sadly from all the lawyers I spoke to not to cut you off, yeah, you'd think so. They don't, they don't think he, he's got a case where it's not going to, it's not to get thrown out. But the real issue is was their retaliation. That's the biggest issue. There was a point during production where they did sign an agreement. They did it against duress, and they say they only did it to keep the movie going, and they didn't want to stop the movie. But in that

agreement, there was a no retaliation claim. And so what I've read, and as I've watched the lawyers, even if there wasn't sexual harassment, even if there wasn't harassment, that kind of doesn't matter. So like she smartly did it in a way where it's like she may have been harassed. She may not have been harassed. But because she made the complaint the way she did through the California standards, if he, if he's caught doing anything retaliatory after that complaint, just the complaint alone, he's guilty. So that's that's that's where this is all crazy and scary. So they enter into an agreement knowing we can now do whatever we want and he can't retaliate. Correct. See, that's fucked up, bro. Yeah. Which is

more the reason why I'm not team Blake because I'm like, you didn't do that because you're a scumbag. You did it to drink. And there's theories that there's a morality clause to the book so they can get the rights to the book because the author is now cozyed up to Blake where it's like the author was all about Justin and like Justin has always been about the message of the book.

That's where I think also Blake didn't really factor in. This movie's about domestic violence and like relationships where it's like it's complicated and there are really fervent fans of that book. And Blake didn't give a shit about that topic.

Justin has a whole organization, Be bet, do good or something where, you know, that's what he's really once, seemingly wants to like, whether it's a facade or not, I don't know, but he's still putting in more work than a lot of people is what I'll give him credit for. And he was all about that. That was very clear for him of why he wanted this book to help people and like sort

of paint relationships that are messier. Blake doesn't give a shit about that. So the reality, though, is because Blake never really gave a shit about that, it's coming to a light. And I think that's what's making Justin look better. and all these people who've suffered abusive relationships are like, fuck you, Blake, like, you just want to control this book, you wanted to make it commercial, you wanted to sell your hair care products and your alcohol. Like, fuck you, this movie's not about it. And honestly, that's what's sort of turned me because I'm like, imagine if this Justin Baldoni is this predator abuser who's harassing people on set and being inappropriate to women, why the fuck didn't you stop the movie and not get it made? You're Blake fucking lively. Like, you're letting this alleged abuser, like, reap the rewards of a, domestic violence book, if he's an abuser, I just find that incredibly hypocritical. And if there's anybody in Hollywood who could have stopped him, they stopped during the

strikes. She didn't have to come back. She could have been like, I wasn't comfortable. He made me uncomfortable in the book. I don't, in the movie. I didn't want to associate with that. And she could have walked away and been a hero. And then maybe they could have exposed to him and it would have been what it was.

But she waited not only for it to get released in theaters and then digitally, she waited until it was on Netflix. They made a Netflix deal. And then as soon as it was on Netflix, two days before Christmas, she drops her lawsuit. So she cashed in at like four points on that movie before she complained about the abuse. And I don't know. I just, I don't know. Doesn't that seem odd?

If you really, Blake lively and you're defending for abusers and you want to expose one, you really are going to wait and cash in at all those points and let him cash in all those points, feels off to me. Yeah. He sounds like a scumbag. When you talk about it all and put it out there and I'm not, I'm trying to look at it all objectively. I've read all the lawsuits it's like 300 pages of lawsuits I've had to read

I try to give her the benefit of the doubt and yes I sadly I agree I think she has a lot of explaining to do so you worked with honest trailers yes nice I was thinking you know a channel that is I don't know who's channeled I was thinking I used to watch those videos all the time yeah I mean I can talk about that shit that was a whole cancellation

yeah it was a crazy oh really honest trailers and is it the same people do cinemas ins what is that okay honest trailers honest trailer well you explain it since you worked with it Yeah. No, I'd love to hear you explain it. So, like, it's like honest trailers. It gives you, let's just say, um, the movie, like,

an honest movie trailer. Yeah, the Wolf of Wall Street. Um, it's just like a satirical breakdown. It's like, the Wolf of Wall Street, like, instead of. You don't know anything. You've never watched the Wall Street. Oh, yeah. It's a great fucking movie.

Yeah, but, uh, you, listen, this guy, everything, half, 90% of the stuff I talk about, we ask Colby. Sell me this pen. Have you ever seen this? I mean, he's like, no. Yeah, those are, those movies that came out, you know, 2005 and older. No, but it's like a break. I haven't watched one in a while, but I used to.

Good, just they suck now. But it was like, it would just give you like an honest trailer about what the movie's really about. We had the epic voice. Yeah, like in a world where, yeah. In a world where Wall Street, you know, whatever. But it's funny. I don't know all the details, but I used, yeah, that's one of the channels. That in Cinemas, I thought were very similar.

So they ripped us off. yes so there was a I did a show called movie fights too it was popular for a while okay so there was a cancellation what with that channel no so I was

flirting with my fans back in 2017 and then my wife didn't know hence why I was living a lie back in 2017 so literally the day after Ashley Judd got named or called out Weinstein and Me Too the day after some fan came out with a false

accusation that I raped her which I didn't, which I didn't. But then when that allegation came out, I was so serious and me too was literally just starting, which now I have so many opinions and all of it now, but I got fucked. I just got fucked because no one wanted to go against it

because it was like the wrecking ball was here to take down anybody and every guy in town had fuck done something stupid. So nobody wanted to be like, now it's completely different. Everyone sort of, thanks to people like me, I actually pushed through and it was like, this is bullshit.

So anyway, I got fired. I got divorced like I lost everything moved to Florida that's why I'm here in Tampa all that went down and then I sued them I won well I won a settlement because the company went under because they were so shady that fired me wrongfully I had I thinkfully saved the text messages through Google voice I thought I'd leave them all but I thank God I didn't Google voice kept an archive of them and with my text messages I was able to prove that she was completely full shit come back for seconds and all this shit I've done after she alleged I did all this shit. So I exposed her. And, yeah, then I got to, then I relaunched. And a lot of people, mostly conservatives were like, holy fuck, dude, wow.

I was able to prove myself, came back, rebuilt. And then the Johnny Depp trial, that was part of the reason I was so popular with the Johnny Depp phase, because I'd been through a similar experience from like, this is bullshit. Like, this woman lied on me. And so that's, and I told the story,

and I wore it like a scarlet letter. Like, yeah, I was a cheater. But I, that was my sin, not being a race. which everyone called me for the longest time and that sort of lifted up my coverage because people were like oh wow you really do get what Johnny's going through but yeah so I don't work for screen juggies because of that they fired me they and then they sold it to a fandom which has just ripped it in the ground yeah incredibly depressing but I'm still proud of my era of Honest Trillers yeah that's probably there might have been the air that I

watched like I said it's been a long time maybe there was some good ones um so what do you cover mostly on your channel for people who haven't seen you that are watching this the first time. Am I to you or to him? Yeah, talk to Matt. Just so you could talk to the Matt, the microphone. Yeah, Popcorn Planet was born at a necessity at the time just because I got canceled. I needed a place to go.

And I hadn't actually proven my innocence yet. I was still in a lawsuit trying to do that from Screen Junkies, which was a very popular channel. But everyone sort of thought I was bad. So Popcorn Planet became this sort of, I called it popcorn Planet. Like I was, it was kind of like scorched earth of entertainment was what my original angle of the channel is going to be to sort of just cover entertainment stories and movies. That would have been a good one, too, scorched earth.

Scorched earth. But I, entertainment. And so that was my goal. And I went in and I came back and started making content and people were still calling me things I wasn't. And then sure enough, as I, I'm so glad I did that because it got me back into creating stuff because I took a break because I was pretty depressed during that period of my life. And I'd done a lot of wrong things, but I wasn't what everyone was labeling me, which

was a rapist and stuff. So I slowly just went back out there. I kept going. I always advised everybody, like, don't sit in your house all depressed, like, turn your fucking web camera and make a fucking video. There's no excuses anymore in the world of content. So I just got back out there. The comments were mean, but I kept going.

And then finally, I was able to prove my innocence. I settled my lawsuit. I can't really discuss that. But the company that fired me went under because they were so shady. And everyone was sort of like, whoa, I didn't know this was the real story. and I used that as sort of the opportunity to launch my comeback. It didn't do as big as I'd hoped, but it did big enough that I was able to bring popcorn planted in.

And then it really was the Johnny Depp trial. And then obviously my experience of what happened to me really connected with people and they could see that why I was connected to the Johnny Depp trial so much of sort of a man being wrongfully accused. And I didn't shy away from bringing that up from time of time. And that just catapulted our coverage during that phase in popcorn planet.

I'd say that was the point where we really sort of, it tripled our numbers and stuff. And, yeah, since then, we've then been really focused on, you know, more entertainment justice, pop culture justice, as we call it. So we've been doing the Diddy trial. We, you know, covered Jay-Z stuff. We covered the Will Smith slap and Free Britney was a big moment we were on top of. And so, you know, when sort of true crime hits Hollywood, that's what we try to connect into.

And then what you, but it's also, because I read the, uh, on the thing I read your description of what the channel is. You also talk about the true crime. We started with Gabby Patio. Like, Gabby Patio is the one true crime story I really did cover in depth, the Brian Laundry stuff, which there's a documentary now coming on Netflix. The family did. That story, because I was local to Florida, and I was just, at that point, we're still

trying to find what the channel was. So there was a phase we did true crime. I should probably update it. I stopped covering true crime as much as because I got too depressed. It was too many missing children. I don't know how you and so many women just at night fall asleep to murder stories. I can't do it. It sticks with me too long. It's like 70. The app, so it's, you know, that true crime is consumed about 60, 65% by women. But violent true crime is what they focus on.

So it's like 70, 80% of violent true crime. And they'll watch it right before bed. Oh, yeah. If you remove the violent, if you remove the serial killers and all that stuff from it, then it drops dramatically. Like, they're not interested in scams and bank fraud and stuff like that. They're interested in the serial killer, the murders. Yeah, no, they would send me the links as I was covering to ground me. Like, have you followed this murder of the guy who cut his person in the refrigerator? I'm like, it just wasn't fulfilling to me at that point. I know offense to the people who watch that, of course.

But I found my lane. I'm like, I'd rather talk pop culture. So I try to find those juicy pop culture stories just because it helps me sleep better at night. Because I can't. The missing kids was particular. Every week I'd have someone, can you help us find this kid? And I'm like, I felt so helpless. Yeah, yeah.

What do I do? Yeah, that's not my area of expertise. So I do, I have a allegation story. You want to hear this? Oh, I'm so excited. On me, the Blake lively thing, where remember how you were saying some people compare the Blake lively thing and they're saying like maybe Baldoni and maybe there was a thing there.

And then Ryan Reynolds, maybe he found out. And so it turned into something, you know, suddenly it was like, oh, no, that's not what he's been. He's harassing me. whatever, right? So maybe it, there's a theory that that's how it developed me. Yeah. Okay. So when I had, when I heard that, I thought, oh, that seems reasonable. The reason I say that seems reasonable is that I had, so I was married, but separated from my wife. This is 20-something years ago, right? This is when I own a mortgage company. I started, I was decided I was going to go ahead and become a, I'll get my real estate license. Well, one of my brokers, and his name was

John, John's wife was Deanna. She wanted to get her real estate license. And he told me, hey, she's going to go, wants to get a real estate license. And you said, you want to go. Do you want to, you guys want to sign up together so you can drive her there because he only had one car. And I was like, yeah, sure. So we sign up together. And after work, we would go to do our class at night and then you come back. This happened after a week, it's like a six or eight week class, right? We're doing it like four days a week or something at night. So what ends up happening is after a week or two, we start sleeping together. Well, he knows something's up. And eventually what happens is the class ends. And I tell her, yeah, we're done. Because now I'm at work and

she's calling me. And I've got a secretary who phone calls go through. So your husband is in the bullpen. You know, he's working in the office and you're calling me. Shit where you eat, my friend. I know, all right. We already discussed the asshole part of it. So, so, you know, asshole. Sorry, no judgment. Continue. Asshole move. I get it. But the point is, is that she's now calling. And I'm like, listen, this is done. First of all, it was never going anywhere. That's dangerous. Yeah, it was never going anywhere. Did she know that? Yeah. She always knew that. She always knew. And she's the one who said, look, I don't want to get a divorce. Like this is like, hey, we've got a few weeks together. That's a frustrating thing where they know what's going on, but then once they can't have it, they lose their minds.

Right. So, and I'm getting a divorce already. So she's thinking he's available. And I can, maybe she's thinking to step up or something as far as, you know, monetarily or something. I don't know. Husband was a good looking guy. But they've been married for a while. Maybe that was it was over anyway. And they did get divorced. Right. Shortly after this. So what the point is, is that at some point he realizes something's going on. And, and I've stopped talking to her. I've been like, don't put her phone fucking, don't put her calls through. I'm never here. That's it. She got to a point where she had her best friend calling me, asking me to, will you just talk to her? She's going nuts. You know, she's unstable. Like I'm now, all these things are coming out. She's unstable.

Like, I'm like, oh, no shit. I started to notice that when she wouldn't take the hand. Even though we had the conversation, this is only while we're doing this. So what happens is, because I'm like, I don't need any drama. I got enough problems. I got an FBI investigate. Like, I don't go kinds of stuff. I'm committing massive frauds. You're like, I don't need this right now.

Anyway, what ends up happening is... And you added more drama to the mix. Of course I did. So what ends up happening is one day I get a phone call from one of the mortgage... No, it wasn't a phone call. One of my mortgage brokers, her name was Susan Barka. Susan Barker comes in my office. She said, listen, John's coming in.

He said he doesn't want to... He basically said, you need to leave not be here when he comes in he's cleaning out his desk and I went why what's going on and he put a device from radio this is how old this is from radio shack I don't even think there is are there still radio shacks are there yeah I think there's one I looked it up it's more digital now oh okay you can order the parts so good but it was a rate went to a radio shack where you you plug this device into the plug this is back when you had landlines into the I miss radio check it was a cool era yeah by your RCA cords yeah so you

plug it into the phone, and then you put your plug in. And every time someone picks up the phone, it records. And he had recorded a bunch of Deanna's, Deanna? Anyway, Deanna's... Beep. Oh, no, it's fun. Oh, I'm using real names. It's true.

They're all, this is 20-something years ago. She's a psycho. So, anyway, and this is why I'm saying this. She's nuts anyway, but on top of that, listen to what happened. So he records these phone calls between her and her best friend. And so he listens to him. So he takes the thing and he goes. And I found out, you know, this is stuff that I found out.

Susan's explaining to me and basically said that he, after he listened to the whole thing, she comes home and he says, look, I know what's going on, blah, blah, blah, blah. She denies it, denies it, denies it. And then he says, I know what's going on. I know. So finally she says, okay, but you don't understand. He essayed me. And he's like, really?

And she's like, yes. And then I didn't want, you know, I was scared. I didn't want you to lose your job. I didn't know. So, and he's like, yeah, but you can, I know you continued to see him. And, and she said, yeah, but you don't understand. She's like, I was scared. I was like, I was afraid.

I was like, I was afraid. I was afraid. I was afraid. I was going to, oh, no, kill her. I was like this. I was scared. And then I ended it as soon as it was, oh, as, you know, obviously it stopped happening. I was so glad when I was done and we got our license and the whole thing.

Okay, fine. So he goes. And she says, you don't understand. And he, you know, he forced me. And she goes, I'll, I'm telling you right now. She goes, I'll go to the police right now. He essayed me. I will go right now.

We will go file a police report. I will file it. We'll have him arrested. And keep mind. I'm sitting there broke, the broker's telling me this. And I'm thinking, like I never thought it would go like this. I knew she was a little nuts, but she's now ready to file false accusations. And so what happened, of course,

is that he's got the recording. So then he starts playing the recording. And one of the recordings is between her and her best friend and her best friend. And I'm sitting there telling Susan, by the way, like, none of that's true. That's not true. She had a whole thing where I slid my, all the stuff off my desk and threw her on the desk and the whole thing. And Susan's like, well, I mean, I know that's not true. She's like, you're not that passionate.

And he played, so he ended up playing one of the voicemail. or the recordings for his wife, and he told Susan, and it was, she was, her friend was saying, look, you have to stop. The guy's not interested. It's over. Find someone else to focus on. And she said, you don't understand. After having sex with him, I can never have sex with anybody else. This is the only reason he wanted to tell the story. Exactly. And I told Susan, I said, that part's true. I'm all about productivity, feeling energized, and staying strong. No matter matter how old I get. But let's face it, aging can slow you down. That's why I started taking qualia senilitic. As we get older, our bodies pick up these things called senescent cells or

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self will thank you and thank you to Qualia for sponsoring today's episode. That other stuff is not true. That's true. I was waiting for the payoff. Luckily. Luckily, John said, luckily, he was reasonable. He was like, you're not calling the police. You're not doing that. And we're done. Find someplace else. to live. And they actually got a divorce. But so it's like... And you were the best she ever had. Did that make you feel a little bit better? That's the only part of her story that was true. So, but... The TikTok will end at that punch line. It'll build up to that point and then that'll end. And listen, the comments will go nuts

and it will get four million views. And I just... If Colby is willing to sacrifice like my pride for views, he will make me look horrible for... Anyway, So what I'm saying is, is that, like, I could see, like, some, you know, how, you know, like, hey, I found out this, I found out. Luckily, he had these tapes and he knew none of that was true. I totally relate to that, yeah. What if, you know, you get the guys who were like, yeah, you know, if he was a spiteful person, which he wasn't, thank God, other than he was saying he was going to, he was going to kill me if he saw me, which is funny because a month or two later, we both went to a birthday party dinner, and we were there and we talked and we shook hands, we were like, hey, and he's like, yeah, she was crazy, bro. you know the whole thing yeah it's it's the evidence is key if you don't have their seats i was the same way like she's this accuser back and when i worked at screen ducky she came and we we had an affair that's what it was yeah yeah it was a clear affair if she was a fan that's the other thing i i just hooking up with fans is so dangerous so dangerous because most of them if they want to be with

someone famous youtubey whatever they are a little unhinged yeah and they'll they'll go they'll get obsessed or not understand what it is and it's like they can't just be mature adults like Look, I'm not here to judge a lot of people are, you know, unfaithful. I'm not saying it's right. You shouldn't do it. But, you know, people do it. But sure adults, whatever people, grown adults want to do in their private life, none of my fucking business, right? But that's the problem is like sometimes you get swooped into one of those relationships where you think, oh, cool, we're adults.

We know what we're doing. And then you find out, oh, no, they're not adults. They're crazy, you know, immature, insecure, crazy people. so yeah anybody YouTubers watching don't hook up with your fans

it is a recipe for disaster you can imagine what my plight I mean look at me I have fans look at me

if you look like me my God it would be twice as bad luckily you've got this you've got some fans you have this going on shaming me

brings you on the show just tell you how big as dick is oh good times good time but anyway back to the people are delusional back to the point back to the point of yeah you get those receipts and if you are having an affair with somebody save your fucking receipts like keep the evidence because they can turn on a dime like I keep all my receipts with any like a lot of not that I'm doing that now I'm just saying you got to keep that shit if you ever

suspect oh this is weird there was a point where I was hiding my affair and I deleted some things bad news because again she's like he's not gone he showed up to a party on it I'm hotel room unannounced and tried to me. Meanwhile, the texts are me, sorry, for at YouTube standards. Meanwhile, the texts are like, oh, my God, please come back for round two. When are you going to come back? That was so good. Blah, blah, blah. Like, hello? That's not what you said. And then it's like a text showing me, here's my room number. Come on by. You said I showed up unannounced. Like, everything she said was discredited in the text messages. What's funny is like, so that, like, how is that not a charge? Do you see what is that not? A thousand percent. A thousand

percent we're now in a world we're like and i see it happen with the ditty case to be fair like there was a lot of people jumped in the ditty case and the circus as i call it by the way i like that i'm good i'm good i'm good at this i got a big dick and i can segue real good too i just don't call it out like you 17 year old riana and then you learn about alia and you learn about how young biance was and then you look at his alleged son jZ's got a history with these girls do you believe jz is really this nefarious, did you like player? I, um, oh, I probably shouldn't say this. Actually, that's too much for one video, right, Matt?

And I'm supposed to say what? Tomorrow, stay tuned, and we're going to be releasing the JZ video. Subscribe. Okay, that's fine. See ya.