Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - BOEING WHISTLEBLOWER SECRET'S REVEALED (Insider Information)

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

BOEING WHISTLEBLOWER SECRET'S REVEALED (Insider Information)

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In his trunk? In his trunk. He had, you know, some seriously damning knowledge that could change the course of, you know, whether or not they took them. So with Boeing, there's planes falling apart. Wheels falling off. Handel's falling off. There's engine failure. They have to reroute and do emergency landings.

And it's a whole mess right now. So there's a whistleblower, and he has been working for Boeing for about 25, 30 years plus. He retires in 2017, and then he starts making claims that Boeing is cutting corners. It's very unsafe. They're doing a lot of illegal procedures. So John was blowing the whistle. He was in the middle of a deposition with him, and turns out that he gets offed, allegedly. So this has been a thing that's come up in the maintenance industry.

So currently right now I work in a 145 repair station. So that's a FAA certified repair station. And that's certified to do minor and major alterations to airframe and engines. Now, for those certificates, they're pretty specific. When it comes to the airlines, though, they're even more specific. And it's a real... So the biggest money that... in payroll that the airlines pump out is for inspectors and quality control it actually happens to be the one place where had they not done a bunch of cut up cutbacks of layoffs and you know restructuring of the companies some of these incidences would not have occurred and it all comes down to how good is your QA department

And especially, you know, Boeing has as a tough time because, you know, the airplanes are big, which means that, you know, to produce them, that's a real big footprint that that takes up. You know, you're talking about acres and acres and acres of, you know, space. And those airplanes aren't all assembled in one area. Right. You know, parts of it are built here, parts of it are built there, parts of it are built there, and it comes together as a chain. well you figure if one section's quality control is great the other sections quality control is not so great but still passable you know it leads to events you know like we're seeing with doors flying off

the wheels flying off and that's just the stuff that they're telling us I mean we hear in the maintenance industry I mean we hear every single day we can get online and we can look you know of the things that are reported you know where parts are reported as being counterfeit because that's a real big issue that we have now with the having a 3D printing in the advent of

digitizing all records and digitizing all documents now. Any Joe Blow can go to the National Archives and say hey I need this particular part it's this number, it has this serial number and they can send you a drawing

to it. They can manufacture it, produce it, stamp it with the date, you know make all the paperwork right you're none the wiser. Right. And what's the problem with that if it's done by like a 3D printer or something? Well, so, I mean, would you take, okay. So for instance, we found bell cranks that were,

it was on an airplane that was a certified airplane, which meant that it had a type certificate. It had gone through all the testing. you've gone through the manufacturing process. Well, what the owner decided that he wanted to do is he wanted to make the airplane experimental, which, you know, your airplane, you own it, you can do that. It just means that, you know, there's not the quality standard.

So what he did is, is he bought what he thought were heavier duty blocks for his wings, which are what the wing attaches to, it's a solid structure. Right. We're stamped with the manufacturer thing. He bought it from eBay. He got the paperwork.

We started looking at the paperwork, and we're like, well, there's a bunch of typos in this paperwork. So then we've seen that the certificate number, and I was like, well, that certificate number isn't quite long enough. Come to find out, there was some Joe Schmeadow that, you know, had 3D printed or done it on a lathe, whatever. He manufactured the part, but it's a counterfeit part. Now, experimental airplane doesn't really mean very much.

You know, you can go on, but as he, as this guy found out, he put it on, you know, fluid a couple of times, I guess because it's not the same material. The weights were different. You know, he did damage to his airplane, you know. Okay. So that means that you're getting, so you're getting something that says it's certified up to the standards that it should be when in fact it's not, it not necessarily up to those standards. Yeah. So, you know, you see this all the time in, especially. avionics, which is the radio

systems and airplanes. And avionics covers a lot more than just the radios that covers pretty much all the electrical systems, the indication system. You know, sometimes the icing systems, if there's the icing indication or ice indication. But so

you see it a lot with switches. You know, you have a toggle switch, just like any of the ones you can see behind me here on the panel, right? In theory, They have a certain, you know, bunch of standards that they go up to, right? That comes on a tag that says, okay, this is a certified part.

But you can go to RadioShack when RadioShack was still a thing back in the day and get the exact same switch. Now, that switch coming from Beechcraft or Texron or Sirius or Boeing, you know, that switch might, when you buy it on the manufacturer costs, $700, $800. But it might only be a $10, $15 switch. The only difference is that stamp that says FAA, PMA, which is Federal Aviation Administration, Professional Maintenance Associated. So that's the guys who govern all the certifications on, you know, parts.

They hold, you know, all the data sheets so you can tell if parts are counterfeit, which the airlines have that happen all the time. You know, the one thing you... I'm still not understanding. If it's the same switch, what does it matter if one... You know, one has a one has a little certification number and one doesn't. Are you saying that the quality of the switch is actually different? No.

No, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that that company, whoever's manufacturing that FAA PMA part, has gone through the rigorous testing and paid the entrance fee to say that's an FAA PMA part. Now, by regulations, I cannot put a non-FAA PMA part on a certified Air Force. frame unless there's a supplemental type certificate or what's called an STC for it, which means that the manufacturer has gone ahead and done the testing. The manufacturer says it's okay. They've applied for the STC certificate and then you can buy that STC certificate.

You see that a lot with like lighting systems when, you know, older airplanes go from the incandescence to LEDs. well the way for them to do that is you know you just can't go and say oh well i want to get a new landing light for my airplane you know and just go and buy whatever landing light you have to buy the landing light that's either came with the airplane or that fits underneath an STC so if you want to get LEDs you can get LEDs if you want to you know if you want to get the super bright bright bright light you know as long as it's certified and it it's on the STC the manufacturer says that it's okay and it can be signed off as a certified airplane. Okay.

So what do you think, like, what are the types of things that were happening at Boeing that you think are an issue? So after COVID, the airlines had a huge revenue problem. You know, I mean, nobody was flying. So they were taking airplanes out of service, which means they were taking pilots out of service, which means if they were taking pilots out of service, chances are to take the mechanics out of service. And now, here's the thing about the airlines, too. The airlines have hiring contracts with most aviation maintenance schools. And I'm going to tell you as a student of those aviation maintenance schools, most of those aviation

maintenance schools, all they're teaching you is, is how to fill out the paperwork and take the test. Right. You know, I mean, a lot of those kids, I never touched an engine until I walked into the shop. And luckily, I was working at a shop that was a repair station that sponsored me to go to school because it's just an easier option that way because it's like 2,000 hours that you have to do in the shop for you to be an apprentice for you to get certified and signed off to take the test so there's a couple of different ways that you can do that but what the the airlines do is they'll take a guy you know fresh out of school fresh out of his test you know yeah he might

know the basic knowledge but he doesn't have his hands on an airplane he doesn't know that you know anything he's just going to take what you know his trainer take you know tells him on his first day of work and his trainer's probably going to be a guy with about five years experience who's been sitting with a can of brake clean and a rag you know doing wheels and brakes for five years and then they'll move them up it's a very big there's like a seniority thing that happens in you know airline maintenance and it's totally different than general aviation which is what i'm in is general aviation We're general aviation like commercial. Okay.

So what are you saying? They're hiring these kids that have no experience. Oh, yeah. And that's what it is. They're hiring guys that have no experience. They're making. So in the airlines, see, this is the other thing too. The airlines, because of their certificates, they can make anybody an inspector, anyone.

So as long as you're employed by that company and in that show. as a resource if somebody likes you and says, hey, I believe that you know, you have what it takes to be an inspector. You know, okay, cool.

We promote you from within and now we make you an inspector on our repair station. So now you're inspecting stuff saying, oh, it passed inspection, but you don't really have any experience at all. You don't have, the FAA doesn't hold, you know,

you don't hold any certifications. I mean, those guys don't even have to be airframe and power plant mechanics for them to be mechanics in the actual shop. You know, I mean, that's kind of the way that I get away with doing, you know, the work that I do because I work directly underneath somebody that has an IA. But they, coincidentally, own the repair station, too. Right. You know, and that happens all over the country.

I mean, the airlines do it. You know, the airlines will hire a guy that has, you know, plenty of experience, but he failed the test. And he can't retest for another two years or 90 days or, you know, whatever the time, you know, requirement is. and there's different time requirements for different failures. And so they'll take a guy that failed and they'll say, all right, well, you know, go work in the shop and we'll make you A, B, and C, because you have this amount of experience or you scored this on your tests in school. You know, practical knowledge, they have none.

You know, you see that with pilots too nowadays. You know, the flight training industries even worse with it. You know, they're. pumping out pilots. I worked at a flight school that had a 90 day zero to hero. So you go from in 90 days, you go from knowing nothing about an airplane to having a full pilot's license. How good do you think the training is? Right. You know, they're just pumping out the certificate because the FAA is still six years behind in paperwork. Everything's still done on, you know, regular hard cards and regular, you know,

regular pieces of paper that you got to scan through a computer and then submit online. You know, all of that stuff, they're, the records keeping in the FAA is atrocious, you know, and, you know, at the PMA, too. They're just so far behind. So you just think that they're flooding, that Boeing is flooding their assembly line with, with workers that don't, that aren't qualified. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's happening in every major airline manufacturer across the board with the exception to Airbus.

But that's just because Airbus hires engineers. You know, their guys are actual structural engineers. Their actual, you know, aircraft engine engineers. Like they're an engineer is different than a maintenance tech. You know, you can be a maintenance tech all day long and you know how to do a checklist. You know how to do an inspection. But you don't know anything about the engineering of it and how that. stuff works so i was i heard a guy said he said that there there are claims that they would

just to keep up with a with the assembly process there were times when these guys would go out and get like scrap you know pull scrap metal off oh yeah yeah yeah and that happens and here's the thing if you think that doesn't happen across the country and that's that's the to the level that it happens you can do it there is a company right now that sells scrapping stuff and they're the biggest company in the world and i use them every other week we have to go to them for a part but see what they do is they quality test their parts so when they strip it when they get an airplane that say you know uh lear ran off the end of the runway you know just for sake of example is this has actually

happened layer runs off the end of the runway well they haven't made this jet in 30 years and discontinued the production of the assembly line in 2010, right? You can't get parts anywhere for it. And the airplane's insured up to $700,000 or something. So the insurance company says, well, if it's, it's to repair, it's only $150,000 or whatever the bill is, go ahead and repair it. Well, where are you going to get those parts from? You got to go to a bone yard and you got to get them.

Right. But these are brand new. Well, and so in that, and that's what they're doing. And the term scrap bin is loose. A scrap bin for an aircraft manufacturer is something that were they designed an assembly and an assembly had some type of flaw. The assembly didn't pass somebody's QA, quality insurance inspection or, you know, they didn't like it. they didn't like something about that, so to just put it in a bin. Well, you have technicians that don't, you know, nobody who communicates to each other, you know,

communication in shops, especially when it comes to manufacturers is bad. I mean, it's just bad. You know, you might have somebody that at one day you come into work and it's a directive that says, yeah, this bin can be used, you know, make sure things get non-destructive tested and blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, use sparingly. If you need these ABC parts, go ahead and use it. you know that might be the directive Monday Tuesday you come in and there's five directives and your lead just decides that he doesn't want to show up you know so you don't know that

there's a directive you know you're not privy to that information and then they don't want to tell you that information you know I see that happen all the time I see it happen around our shop I see it happen you know in other shops and places I work you know it's the more links you add into a chain, especially when it comes to manufacturing. I mean, Elon said it best. The manufacturing of anything is the most complicated process. Right. I mean, the design is, I mean, you've got computer systems now that can design pretty much

everything and can pretty much dynamically test anything, you know, in a 3D simulated environment. They got real go with that technology. So then it's the, how do we put those part? these parts into practice. How do we do that? And, you know, how do we streamline the assembly line process? You figure it's also the most expensive part of, you know, manufacturing is the actual

production of it. Right. And you got to, you got to think a lot of those guys are overworked. You know, they're in a very high stress. I mean, deadlines when it comes to airplanes, at least with the 737 max, they were over budget on two air force contracts so you figure that took away some type of capital resource from you know the assembly testing and who knows what what uh who knows where they pulled the funds from to to you know who knows who they let off who they or who they laid off you know but

a government superpower like Boeing which is they have become you know because because of the defense contracts and the industrial complex, just like, you know, you've heard so many people talk about, they have the resources to, you know, get away with anything. I mean, as we're seeing, and I hate to say it, you know, get away with murder, apparently. Right. You know, I mean, but as far as as as far as all the maintenance things and why it's now just coming up, It's just in the news now. That's just the stuff that they're reporting on.

Right. I mean, you can go through the logs on a daily basis and see, you know, all the things that they get reported to the FAA. And it's a lot. You know, I mean, they're flying airplanes over time. They're flying airplanes over their inspection times. And they can do it and get away with it because they have those minimums and maximum allowances in their SOPs, you know, which is their standard operating procedures for the airlines. Um, the, that part of flight, you know, those airplanes, too, they're on progressive inspection protocols. I mean, as long as the airplane goes into the hangar, in theory, they can pencil whip everything.

They don't have to do an inspection. And as far as, you know, the, what was it, the hotel key card you hear. Oh, you know, well, they found a hotel key card. Yeah, chances are they were probably using it as. an inspection tool you know they were probably using it as a feeler gauge to feel in between the tolerances between something between probably two pieces of metal you know um not great i mean you should never do that obviously but you know that's just the the type of hiring that they're doing you know they hire they hire it versity hires i hate to say it you know i hate to call a spade a spade but they're

hiring you know you get a the problem is those schools are mostly um technical or community colleges so they have all the federal funding in the world you know they pump them out in 18 months in 18 months they get a job they get a hiring contract so they'll go to school with a contract says as long as you maintain a 70% in this class here you go you get a we're going to let you go out on the shop floor and we're going to let you you know do whatever who knows what they're what they're doing you know it could be maintenance it could be you know the actual assembly of the airplane i mean you just could never tell um okay so i'm wondering what like what do you think the well i would say what do

you think the the cure is to that you know what's the fix to that system more Well, so, I mean, the cure to that is to remove the Q&A, take it out of in-house. I mean, just get rid of your Q&A department. Get rid of your Q&A department and outsource it and have a third party, have a third-party Q&A department. Right. I mean, that's always double and triple verify when you do work. I mean, we have to do it. I have a shop lead and then I have an IA, which IA stands for.

Spector authorization. So I go so my work goes through two layers of scrutiny before it ever gets a signature put on it. And that's that I mean there's enough cameras around this place to be Fort Knox and there has to be because there has to be a way to prove yeah, well, we did that. Right. But you're you're doing so you're doing maintenance on guys that people that come bring their planes in. Well it's so we have a flight school our shop actually has their own flight school. So it's mostly the flight school airplanes and they'd have two flying clubs and then we recover wrecked airplanes and then you know if the insurance company says yeah go ahead and fix it then we'll go ahead and do the insurance fixes all them okay yeah we also hang our airplanes and then they have a major component shop so just like

we refurbish our shop specifically refurbishes thrush reversers for the airlines so they'll get an airplane that, you know, the thrust reverser says it can only have X amount of hours. They'll fly it up to the time that it needs to come off. The maintenance shop will pull it off. They'll crate it up, send it to us. We'll inspect it, refurbish it, send it back to them, and they'll put it back on the airplane with a fresh certification as overhaul. So this guy, I think his name was John Barnett.

Okay. So what do you think the, you know, he was the whistleblower in this whole thing. what do you think the um the liability for Boeing was you know like like what was their um you know like what is their incentive to get get like how bad would it have to be for for someone like for a company like Boeing some executive at a company like Boeing to make a assuming they don't have somebody on their speed dial um to make a phone call to track somebody down that can make this their problem with him this whistleblower go away like how you know how bad does the um does it does their problem at the at the manufacturing plant have to be like are they

i'm going to say bad enough to have uh two former inmates sit and talk about it on a podcast i guess right you know i mean it has to be pretty bad i mean here's the other thing too how bad revenue is with the airlines, you know, just how they are now. I mean, you're thinking stock, you're, you're thinking the loss of revenue stock, you know, the amount. So, you know, I'm sure that their, their, their facilities aren't up to date on a lot of their inspection protocols, you know, I would be curious to know when the last time the FAA did a walkthrough was and how thorough that walkthrough was. You know, I'd be serious, I'd be really curious to, to, I'd be really curious to know

what their non-destructive testing, um, departments like. And, uh, I would imagine that they lightened those resources, you know, pretty significantly because, you know, overall speaking, Boeing's track record with safety is pretty good. You know, I mean, there are always going to be, there are always going to be instances that you can read where something effed up, made a mistake, or pilot error, which is, you know, the majority of airplanes. You know, when you look back through all the accident reports, it's always pilot error. You see it countless in time and time again. You know, you can read all the instances where, you know, people have died inside of an airplane. You know, you can read all the instances where there's been faulty maintenance and an airplane broke. You know, something that has an incredibly safe track record. Yeah, somebody didn't put the bolt back in right and, you know, it broke. You figure that airplane, you know, the airplane I'm sitting in right now, it is five soda cans thick of aluminum.

Okay. If you took five soda cans, cut five soda cans apart, laid them on top of each other. that is the only thing separating me from this outside air right you know and some intricate you know insulation and other things but five soda cans it's 30 thousands of an inch right you know the airlines 50,000 you know 50 thousands of an inch 10 soda cans you know that's nothing I mean you can see the the instances where ground service equipment you know they'll nick an airplane an airplane you know now it can't fly you know it'll be one thing but you got to figure those airplanes reach an incredible amount of speed you know you figure the indicated air speed might be 300 you know but at altitude they might be doing six 700 right you know I watched something the other day just to get off the ground these things are going four or five four or five hundred miles an hour just to get off you know on the runway taking off the take off speed um so just for like

I mean for this airplane this is a baron takeoff speed 80 you know 80's stall speed for most airliners 90 is a landing and takeoff speed for most heavy jets and and you know lighter commercial aircraft um yeah but i'm talking about a large commercial plane oh yeah it's about 200 is what they're true and out at it yeah well so the rotation speed so you can go through and look at what the v speeds are And you'll have like a VR or your rotation or sometimes, you know, there's, there's like, it'll say V and then it'll have an X. And those are like you're never exceed, which you can extend flaps out at, you know, what you can, what the maximum speed for the gear is, what the minimum speed the gear has to be, you know, it gives you all that stuff.

But yeah, I think it's about, I think they're, they're about two, 200. And then, but as soon as they start their climb, they're, they're starting to push three, 300, you know. depending on fuel load and passenger load and you know all of that um yeah you're you're it's uh yeah like 185 mile 185 miles an hour and that's while it's still on the runway yep yep and then you can see what's up i guess i was wrong i thought it was like a couple two 300 at least like it was no that they don't start getting up to that speed at altitude most of the time in class a airspace your speed limit your speed restriction is about 280 okay so so let's like a 747 7 yeah well I mean I mean they might be so you figure add altitude you might be unrestricted you know above 25 30

000 but once you start getting into those air spaces like around um you know the airspace we have a speed restriction around here if you're you know above 12000 pounds and the air the tower when you come in and you call for a clearance they'll they'll give you if you're doing an approach they'll give you a speed restriction and then you're saying when you're so when you're up in the air just traveling between states or say whatever and they're traveling at what speed four four 25 okay okay but again again true air speed versus relative air speed you know versus altitude air speed you know it's all different you know your ground speed versus your air speed are always going to be different because you figure you might be going you

you might be propelled at a certain, you know, velocity or a certain speed. But then you have other forces that are acting on your aircraft. So, you know, if you have a headwind, you're going to have a lower ground speed than your actual indicated air speed. Right. And they have gauges and stuff to give you what's called a TAS, which is a true airspeed. You know, that video you sent me yesterday, and I watched some of it. You know, they make a mention, too, about that MCAS system on these airplanes and the systems that the pilots don't know about, which, you know, that's another thing with certification with these airplanes. What they did not want to do is they did not, Boeing did not want to have to go and add what's called another type certificate.

So for airplanes that are above 1,200 pounds or 12,000 pounds carry, you know, X number of passengers, a type certificate on your pilot's license is required. So I might be able to fly a Gulfstream G2, right? Because I went and I did the training. I did the simulator time, you know, I did all the oral and the practical, and I passed the test through the manufacturer. So then I fly with a pilot examiner. pilot examiner says okay cool here you go you're type rated on a gawstream g2 can i go and get in a

g3 and fly it well no because it's not on my type rating so this what they what they did is they're like if we manufacture a system that can you know mimic the performance standards of the the triple seven or the three seven whatever the the airplane is you know but airplanes have submodels so it's the what was the 780 the the max is a 737 match right is the 737 yeah okay so that that max is your submodel so there might be a 737 alpha there might be a 737 bravo there might be a 737 charlie um there and again these these might not be the real but they'll they'll have a classification so like this particular airplane i'm in right now this is a barren this is a b58 uh tc which is the model now there's a b 58 a g 58 there's a g 58 tc a standard g 58 it's all the different trim options that you can get so when it comes to airliners the different you know subcategories are okay was it narrow body wide body doesn't have rolls royce engines

doesn't have g e engines does it have you know pratt and whitney engines you know what's the engines what's the avionics package and then what's the load out so what does the customer have you know what's their trim package um for that mcat for that mcast system for there for there to be the manual override the manual override procedures for that is incredibly complicated which is why it wasn't taught. It was never a thing that they were supposed to have to override because it was never a system that was supposed to be a standard operating system. It was supposed to be a backup system. Okay.

Problem is the software, their architecture, you know, they didn't have it designed right. They didn't have, you know, an inhibits, a way to inhibit it that was intuitive for the pilots. you know so that's that's what that system you know the other thing that they made a mention of is that door plug and you know that door plug failing you know they were using subset hardware you know another thing inside that scrap bin that they talk about is hardware so hardware that doesn't meet the testing or has gone above the shelf life will go in a scrap bin there are expiration dates on hardware there are expiration dates on bolts there are expiration dates on washers i mean there's expiration dates on even grease you know every single thing has you know some type of trackability or it should the problem is is that all that trackability comes you know extremely expensive it's very very very very expensive to to you know keep it track it maintain the records on it because you got to have a resource which means you have to have a facility

to do that you know as far as erecta as as a way to rectify this you know this has been a thing that mechanics have been screaming about for 15 to 20 years you know as technology becomes more readily available and really as you know the older mechanics die off and get get you know out of the industry you know and they're not passing that knowledge down right yeah you're losing a huge resource. I mean, I was listening to something the other day where they were just talking about like plumbers and, you know, plumbers and roofers and framers and stuff where they were saying like the average plumber was to tradesmen, basically. The average tradesman was, you know, 30 years ago was roughly 30 years old, let's say. And now the average is like 45.

five years old and so what's happening is young people are not going into the trade well as these older people end up and think about that's a 15 year gap so as older people start retiring then there's this then it drops dramatically and now you don't have the same amount of tradesmen one you don't have the same knowledge the new tradesmen don't have nearly as about and they don't have the resource to go ask these guys and the second second thing is once these guys are gone you lose half the tradesman because there's a fifth for 15 years there's a 15 year gap oh yeah yeah so you know I mean in in the airlines feel that because you know they have they have a cycle you know um there's and it's a little talked about but generally speaking if you're gonna you're

going to do 25 years in airlines and you're not going to do anymore you know you might be 30 year but your last 10 is in a very, very cushy position where you're not touching a tool where you're just signing documents. Right. You know, and that's what everybody wants to work up to, obviously,

because that's where you make the good money. The problem is, is that once those older guys, once they start getting tired, they get crotchety. You know, I don't know one older mechanic that's not, you know, a pill to deal with, you know.

And those guys, and the guys that are older mechanics, are the only ones that I'd ever want to learn from because they're the ones that were around when these things were new. They're the ones that have the old knowledge. I mean, when I was in aircraft maintenance school, there was a specific tool that we used in our shop

at work during the day. This guy that was our teacher could tell you what the tool was but could not describe how to use it, could not tell you how to, check to see if it even worked right and you know it's a precision calibrated instrument so you know I'm asking I'm like well I use this thing every day and you know I'm actually walking him through okay well this is how this is what this does this is what that does this is you know how you read it

this is how you check the scale on and you know for me to have to walk my instructor through that it's just the quality of the instruction that they're given in these schools is not great right You know, and the other thing, too, is on an assembly line, airplanes are put together the majority by hand. You know, even nowadays, there's not, you know, I think the, I think the world has a real sketch view of the way that aircrafts are manufactured. I mean, it's a guy that has a station, and that is his station, and he might put the window in. that's what he does all day all day long he has a specific set of hardware that's on his cart it's checked out to him it's controlled and tracked to him and that's what he does likewise there's a guy that puts the gear on and the flight controls it they have a guy well you know if that guy's

not great at his job and he goes to train the next person guess what the next person is they're just going to get his job yeah not great at his job and how and you figure now these air these assembly lines are getting you know to the to where they're old too to their cycling point you know outdated technologies outdated hardware you know and things become you know cost the living around wherever your manufacturing places are i mean it's in there's so many moving parts when it comes to aviation. It's just incredible. And, you know, we have a regulatory body that really, the FAA, as far as a regulatory agency, I mean, they're in shambles themselves. Okay. You're not, you're not speaking great for the industry.

Well, I mean, I love the industry. Don't get me wrong. Here's the thing. Our industry is incredibly safe. Our industry is, but there is an inherent danger in, you know, define gravity. Right. I'm sorry. I mean, it's the greatest way to say there is an inherent danger in it. And, you know, you take that risk. But generally speaking, you know, you can go to any airport right now and see a Boeing taxiing out, landing, you know, fine. Right. Our access to technology and our access to be able to do what we're doing right now to just be able to document and, you know, I mean, you're going to start seeing more of this stuff pop up, you know, especially with things not getting filtered now, you know, on like X and Twitter and, you know, I mean, that's where a lot of us in the airline industry, the first place where we get news of like service bulletins coming out, you know, will be on Twitter, you know, unless we actually. have heard about it and you know there's there's forum and group chats i mean it's a very incredibly powerful tool but you know you'll have people that have opinions that have no idea

what they're talking about you know and they what they're they're because they have a following they're able to say you know all of these things and they're able to to make people think oh aviation's not safe aviation's not safe you know no it's incredibly safe there's a couple bad eggs out there. Yeah. There's a couple of companies out there that can, that, you know, can do better. You know, if the cost of entry into aviation, you know, one of those maxes, I think is, what, $40 million, $40, $50 million, you know, I mean, it's incredibly expensive. The airplane I'm sitting in right now, $560,000 for this thing. Right. You know, and this is just a little too, two engine little propeller

six-seater little airplane you can't go very far you can't carry very much in it 560 grand and do you know how often it flies maybe two or three times a month maybe

you know I mean since I've been here it's flown once and that was like last week so you know the if the barrier to entry wasn't you know financial

you know, and people were able to work, you know, hours that were appropriate, you know, people were able to have proper breaks, people were able to, you know, know, know their job, actually get on the job trained, you know, if there was different layers of, you know, inspections that could be done in different quality controls and, you know, the shop floor guys didn't know when inspections were happening, you know, because that's another thing, too. there's never a random inspection they always know that it's coming somebody always blabs right you know so they're able to get their ducks in a row ahead of time when you know for the six months that they've been you know building and pumping out airplanes their ducks haven't been in a row you know you hear

countless stories of that you know and the the the morale with an industry that where your job is on the line and you can be replaced by you know a contractor any day You know, the morale is super low. Two questions. Sure. One is, one of the things that I had heard was that the upper management at Boeing because, because Barnett had put his, as far as I saw on a video that they were upset that he had put his complaints, he'd put several complaints in writing and that he had been taken aside and told. not, and he'd been reprimanded for putting his complaints or about safety procedures in writing. They were like, don't put things like this in writing. Like, come talk to us,

let us work it out. And why is that? So as far as him putting his complaints in the writing, so that would go to an independent, that would go to a third party FAA like a budsman, you know, somebody that's in charge of going through, you know, especially when it comes to safety complaints. Now, if it was, you know, those safety complaints could have been occupational safety. It could have been, you know, inspection safety, quality assurance. It could have been, you know, just that he didn't like the way that his management structure was, you know, was structured. You know, he just couldn't like the structure. So, but if he made a formal complaint like that and he took it.

to, you know, I would assume he was thinking, well, you know, all right, I could make an in-house complaint, but it's not going to, you know, nothing's going to be done. I needed to, I need to go elsewhere. So he probably, you know, did the formal complaint and reported it to the FAA. And then the FAA probably, you know, came down on Boeing and said, and, you know, started their, you know, formal request and said, oh, hey, we heard this. Do you know anything about it? it. And then, you know, that looks bad, which can ultimately, if it was something that can halt production, you know, if it was a safety concern where somebody wasn't doing an inspection or they were coming in after hours and, you know, not inspecting the airplane, just signing the

books, which, you know, there's stories that are documented where that's happened. You know, it can halt production. They are, you know, with all their other projects, how over budget they are on their research and development and then, you know, all of their military contracts, I wouldn't be surprised that, you know, he was reprimanded at all and told, listen, don't make the complaints. You stop or you're going to lose your job, which means I'm going to lose all my pension. I'm going to lose my stock options. I'm going to lose, you know, probably my health insurance, my family, if he's got kids.

You know, he's probably thinking about all of that stuff. So you think that's why he retired before he made, like I can retire. There's nothing you can do. so if he retires now I retire now I can sue them now I want to know how long that retirement process was from the day that he announced it to the day that he actually signed his retirement paperwork and if it had fully been processed yet before he decided to come out the reason why I say that is is because you know when you retire from a job like that where you're a higher level position you know that's not just a you know oh um yeah yeah there's yeah that's like a

three months process you know it's you're not you think you're signing he's signing documents to say he can't sue the company or he can't or or you know there's no i don't know if it's maybe he can't sue the company but he can't come out of the he can't he probably sign in i'd imagine somebody came up to him with an nda right said yeah you know we'll let you retire with full benefits and a full package but you're going to signed this NDA and he probably gave him the finger all right what do you and and you were saying you think that like it's you were we're talking about him being found like in the trunk of his car like I had never heard that I've watched several things on that and uh I've seen pictures of that

dude I don't do there's no way you're first of all you're not going to kill yourself in your trunk okay your own truck I can't even crawl I'm pretty nimble I crawl in and out airplanes all day long and it's hard for me to get in the trunk of my car first of all you know and he was an older kind of a heavier set guy too i mean he didn't look like he was a thin nimble little you know wiry guy so you know somebody definitely killed himself i mean somebody did that that's not a you mean someone killed him not he for sure for sure yeah i mean and the wording that that they used in the suicide note i think they were saying was kind of off wasn't the way that he talked You know, what's funny is that most, most suicides, most people that, that, uh, kill themselves, don't leave it now.

Yeah. And that's the other. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, would you leave in a note's kid stuff, you know? Yeah. And I hate to say the statistic, but kids normally do that because they're looking for attention. Right. I'm going to say, I've talked to several police officers and they've said, like they've, they've found, you know, the, uh, matter of fact, I talked to a crime cleanup woman.

And she said most of what she's cleaning up. She said tons of it are suicides. And she's the fact is she said almost nobody leaves a note. Yeah. I mean, I think that I think that whole leaving a note thing's a myth. You know, is, and that's because you leave a note, that's premeditated. That's, you've got some, some, some, you know, more mental health. That's got some psychotic, you know, tendency to it, too.

Well, and, but if you're someone who wants there to be no. doubt that he took his own life you'll even out oh yeah yeah well that nothing that no way to no way to misconstrue it yeah right um which you had you had to wonder if they did do that if they sent a wetwork team in there you got to admit that had that screams you know government i mean that i hate to say but that screams that you know somebody that had you know stock options and interests, you know, that did not want to see a company go down because they're probably, you know, highly invested into it. You know, all it takes is a phone call and, oh, hey, he's here. Um, okay. All right. Yeah, I mean, I would, I would definitely imagine, you know, I would venture to

guess that he had, you know, some seriously damning knowledge that could change the course of, you know, whether or not they took the aircraft out of service. You know, if they took another platform out of service, you know, who knows if it's just this one airplane. And you think that's probably what was coming out soon? Like they were a debriefed him. Well, and I'm sure that he wasn't done with that debrief either. I'm sure that they had tons of more questions to ask him and they were probably going

to have multiple follow-ups. What makes me, what weirds me out about the whole situation, too, is that if you're going to put a whistleblower complain out there you know and you're not a government you know you're not somebody like david grush or you know somebody who's out in that uh in the government then that government space you know you'd have to wonder if he's making these claims to the government you know why didn't they give him protection you know if he's making i mean isn't this a civil lawsuit isn't this a civil lawsuit between he and bowing i thought that he was making a formal I thought that he was actually coming out underneath that whistleblower, you know, where the, you know, underneath the, that whistleblower thing where it says the government can't, the government nor the company or whoever you work for can come after you, you know, underneath that new legislation.

Because I didn't think that that legislation just meant for, you know, UFOs and all that, you know. No, no. Well, you understand that they use, okay, you understand that the term whistleblower has always been around. Maybe. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. 20, 30 years ago, you know, Congress came out with a law that said, hey, if you're a whistleblower in one of these companies, you can recoup a certain amount of money and they have different variations of how you recoup that money. So I don't necessarily know, you know, I haven't heard anything about. I think they're just calling him a whistleblower, but not that it was actually trying to get money for being a whistleblower. Now, I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I'm wrong all the time. But I've never once thought he was.

was trying to get money i thought he was just you know being a whistleblower in general or suing them in general yeah i don't and the other thing i mean you'd have to look at what the grounds of the suit are too you know if he's is is he saying okay well this come this company you know why would you sue you know for personal i mean what would your damages be you know i mean what i mean what would your what would your punitive maybe he's doing them because he's saying hey i took early And I would feel like I was forced out because he felt like he was forced out. And I'm suing you guys because you forced me out of the of the company. I'd still be there to this day.

I wanted full benefits. I wanted everything. You guys made it. It was a hostile work environment. And what you're doing is wrong. And one, keep in mind to if a jury comes in and says, one, you owe this guy $400,000 in lost wages and retirement benefits. He should have gotten full retirement. He should have worked another three years.

That's one thing. But the other thing is, by the way, Boeing, for bad behavior, we're going to give this guy four million dollars or 20 million dollars we're going to find you a hundred million dollars for bad behavior or because it sounds to me like you got problems and if he wins that then the government could maybe the government comes takes it seriously comes in and says hey we're going to go through your whole thing the other thing is this and I could be completely not I could be bullshit like I could be I don't even know what the exact exact situation is but what I do know is that you know just because you go to the government and you give the government

information. And even if the government says, well, move forward. And hey, you said, tell the government, I'm trying to help the government. The truth is, the government may not necessarily feel like you suing Boeing as a benefit to them. Like you're saying, like, they may be thinking, bro, this is, this is a company that makes our fighter jets. We're not interested in you blowing the whistle on them or like this doesn't, how does it hurt us? Every once in while a door blows off, maybe. a plane goes down but it doesn't typically hurt us like we're concerned about do you think do you think that there's a possibility that Boeing sat back and you know wade the pros and cons on it and said yeah we know we fucked up we don't want to publicly admit it uh you know let's and let's let's

let's make a phone call get rid of this guy yeah let's make a phone call let's get rid of this guy before you know we call underneath you know i hate to say that. I hate to think that, but I think it, it may very well be true. Well, and I know that they paid them out. If they paid them out, then they have to admit, you know, I mean, that, that, that, that's like a no contest. You can do an out of, you know, an out of court settlement where you say, look, we're just going to sign a non, a non-disclosure agreement. We don't talk about this or there's a gag order. We're going to pay you this money. Now, obviously that doesn't always work. But, you know, with a company like Boeing, it probably does.

so they'll may just sue you into, you know, oblivion. But I think, you know, I think that there's too many, you know, Boeing is a bohemath of a company. And I think there's too many instances where large corporations have done just such unsavory, have behaved in just horrendous ways. Oh, yeah. And so do I think that a corporation is beneath having someone taken out? Absolutely not. Like, I don't think that that's... Oh, no.

The thing that they don't have them on speed dial is just not, it's just not correct. It's just not true. What I do... Go ahead. There's a podcast out there, and I'll have to try to find the link for you. But one of the guys that talks to everybody actually talked to an assassin. like was an operating assassin, you know, like the week that they had talked. And I forget who it was.

I forget which podcast it was. This was one of the ones that I, that I listened to pretty often. But, but yeah, to think that that that's not a thing, you know, I mean, they might have said, hey, you know, we can't pay them out because, you know, regardless whether or not there's a non-disclosure agreement, it's going to make us look guilty. you know we can at least minimize the damage you know what like you said maybe the government was involved i don't know but i don't think you necessarily get government protection you know i just don't think that's necessarily a thing you have to apply for that and he may not have thought he was

in danger yeah and that's the other thing too i mean that uh i would imagine that he didn't i imagine that he didn't think that he was that you know anything was going to happen he was going to make these complaints and, you know, it was going to put his name into public view for a couple of weeks or whatever, and then he'd just go on about his business. But I mean, if you come out with some seriously damning things enough for them to, you know, want to go to those extremes, you got to wonder who's, who's, you got to wonder what the mindset of the person who's back there making that call is, you know, and maybe they're just, you know, the psychopath in this scenario. And It's not just the company.

It's not the company itself. It's the, you know, action of one individual that doesn't want to be tied in with his nonsense. What is your take on the whole Boeing whistleblower and his sudden demise? John Barnett. So if you look into him and his whole pass, he was an engineer. He worked for Boeing for, you know, decades upon decades. So he retires in 2017. And then he starts making claims that.

Boeing is cutting corners. It's very unsafe. They're doing a lot of illegal, you know, procedures. So, you know, we all know that the industry, you know, in any industry can be corrupt for, you know, profit. It's always profit over principle. Same thing that's going on here. So he files a lawsuit and he's basically on the whistle on everything that that's going on. There has been reports of them lubing parts with dishwashing liquid there's been reports of using old scrap metal from scrap yards slapping them on the planes to you know reach deadlines and you know letting these things just fly in the air what's really weird is all these planes start to you know fall apart at one time so within like the last few weeks we've had over 10 you know plane incidences which is really weird

so john was blowing the whistle he was in the middle of a deposition with him and turns out that he gets offed allegedly so all of a sudden in the middle of his deposition he just you know said okay i'm done forget it i'm gonna suicide myself that doesn't make sense right in the grand scheme of things you're in the middle of this deposition for years and then all of a sudden they find you in a parking lot in a hotel parking lot in your trunk so it's like that doesn't make any sense in his trunk

in his trunk so he shoots himself and then throws himself in a trunk how does that work or he's in his trunk and then shoots himself that doesn't I don't get that like how are we as the public supposed to just accept that

that doesn't make sense I don't know I've never heard I have not heard about the trunk thing I thought he was found in the cab of the car like i thought he you know shot himself or uh in the cap in the front of the or in his cab of the of the of the truck in the parking lot yeah they said there was reports of him and that's the thing like i think that you know early reports were saying that and then they try to change they're always trying to change you know in the media like what really happened but there's been you know witnesses saying that so it just makes no sense so then all of a sudden

you know all these planes start falling apart wheels there's panels all these things that's happening and it's very reminiscent if you look into the octopus murder this happened you know a few decades ago and there was a similar situation to where it mirrors this very situation so any kind of you know corporate espionage and you start poking around and all these things that that's you're kind of looking at, hmm, that doesn't really make sense and you have, you know, investigative reporting happening. These people turn out dead all of a sudden. So if you look at the Octopus murders, it's on Netflix and it's about a guy named Danny Castellero. And he looks into a case called Inslaw. Right. Inslaw, I don't know if you heard about that. Have you heard about that?

I've watched part of the documentary where it was the Department of Justice, I believe, was trying, basically ended up bankrupting a company that had created software that made it easier to track cases that the Department of Justice were working on as opposed to a paper system. And it was like a really revolutionary software that was going to update the entire system. And so suddenly they were able to somehow bankrupt the main company and eventually just kind of steal the software instead of paying them for it. Correct. So the DOJ, you know, they have a contract with the DOJ in SLA. So they're a software company. They have a contract with the DOJ for three years. and into the second year

the DOJ stops paying Inslaw for their software and they end up bankrupting. They were like, okay, what's going on? You know, everything was good. The first year, what is happening? So they end up, you know, going bankrupt. Inslaw sues the DOJ. They go to court and they actually win.

They get a judgment. So then, after that, you know, All this, you know, like weird things start happening. Once again, you know, for one, as soon as that federal judge made that judgment, he gets disbarred. He loses his seat. Right. Right. Yeah.

I saw that part. Then they replace the new judge with the former attorney of the DOJ. Right. So now he gets in the seat. Once he gets in the seat, he. reopens the case. Okay, let's look at this case again, because something isn't right. He looks at the case and reverses it. Now Inslau doesn't get any money at all. Case closed. So it's this whole thing to where, you know, again, the journalism, the investigating journalism is a dangerous field.

So Danny looks into it and he's like, this doesn't look right. So he starts looking into the case of Inslau. and it's a way bigger picture it's not just that case it's the software that the doj was using has very vital information and i don't even think inslaw knew what they had as far as the technology and what it could do so this is why the doj wanted it so that's why they stole it so he starts looking into it and long story short he's meeting with different sources he's finding all all these different things. He even tells his brother right before he goes

meets this last source because he was like meeting with people and getting information. He tells his brother, he's like, hey, something happens to me.

It wasn't suicide. Yeah. It wasn't an accident. It wasn't an accident. So he tells his brother like a week before and then a week later, he's dead.

He goes meets the source at this hotel and then they find him in a bathtub. so supposedly he slid his wrist and whatnot but they they did a whole forensics thing and it's just like that doesn't look right and it's just weird and then that's it mirrors this very thing with Boeing um did you ever see a movie and it was based on a real it was a real case uh but you know the book is like 1,100 pages so you'll never read it but yeah it's ridiculous um but the movie was great

It actually had John Travolta in it. This was probably back in the 90s, 80s or 90s. It's called Civil Action. No, I've never seen that. So there was a chemical company that had a plant. And everybody around the plant was getting sick. I mean, like, you know, they're having, they've got, they've got, um, uh, cysts in their organs. And they have, um, uh, ulcers.

and they have like they have a brain problems with their brain like there's all there's just ridiculous types of problems and it's it's coming from some type of a toxin but nobody knows where and so this lawyer who's had a good run um figures out that it's got to be coming from this one company and so he he sues the company but he's got to prove that they they are poisoning the water in the in that little town right he's got to whatever, 80 clients or 30 clients. I forget how many clients. And they're constantly, they try and settle with them a few times for nothing, you know, just enough to basically pay him back. And he's saying, you know, no, no, no, because I know that something's going on. Eventually,

they end up bankrupting the lawyer. And because, you know, yet most people don't realize, like, they think, oh, well, your personal injury attorney comes in. Well, if he sends you to a doctor, he's paying for the doctor. If he sends you to a chiropractor, he's paying for the chiropractor like he's putting up all the that's why he gets one third right right they're selective with the cases you know because they're the ones putting up all the money so and this lawyer's putting up all the money and he's paying you know he's paying 20,000 for this test 15 for this one here 40,000 for this 25,000 to fly this guy in you know it's it's it's it's millions of he's in the whole millions of dollars he's he's got took out a mortgage on his house

He's, you know, sold his car. Like, I mean, it's just, it's, they get into a point where they're fighting and fighting and fighting and they finally, um, they finally bankrupt him. And then he ends up taking, he ends up like literally, he's like laying in bed one night or cleaning out of his house or something. I mean, it's just like horrific, right. Mm-hmm. And he, he, he's putting away the boxes because, you know, you have to keep the case for like seven years. He's putting away boxes for the case. And somehow or another, he comes across something.

like a transcript or something and he just looks at the transcript and something kind of clicks and he jumps in his car and he drives out to where the little town is and he goes to one of the investigators i'm sorry one of the employees that worked there that was interviewed by one of his guy one of like one of his associates but not by him and he realizes i guess that a few questions have not been asked weren't asked right or the way the guy answered him they see so he goes to the guy and he's like I was you know we were here I have a couple questions more questions the guy's like yeah even though the case is up just done and he asked the guy and the guy he asked the guy happens to ask him the correct

question and the guy says no I never dumped anything I never dumped anything in this ravine he's like okay he goes where did you dump the chemicals he goes oh I dumped all my stuff over and in the such and such right into the he was into the pond and he's like okay he was well we tested this and this and we found samples did you ever put anything over there no i never did that he goes do you know who did oh yeah no that's what tom used to dump his all the time he used to dump the chemicals over there yeah but i never did so it was just like like this because somebody answered or asked the incorrect question yeah it's all about the right question right and and so he of course he then of course takes all of his findings and sends it to the

EPA and they shut down this whole it come to find out that these guys were dumping all over the place they just couldn't prove it because they weren't they didn't have one dumping ground they had multiple dumping grounds so they weren't looking in the right place correct and then they would go clean it up like they would go dig it up you know they would dig up like the areas and try and clean them up kind of later when they realized that people were getting sick they kind of tried to cover it up a little bit so the guy they were having a hard time finding the dumping grounds and it didn't make sense where they were finding stuff and you know like if if it was dumped here it wouldn't have gone into this room you know this reservoir it would have been this

one and these people are sick but those people aren't like it didn't make sense right oh but it the whole thing it's you know there's like the the the erin brocovich type thing you know where that there was a movie made about her and and same type of thing it was a chemical chemical plant that was poisoning you know these things happen i mean they they but you know in these companies they desperately try and cover them up right and yeah and sometimes you know there was there was one about a nuclear power plant god this was 30 years ago this movie came out i think merrill street was in it and uh when she was young and same thing she was she was a whistleblower and they they try and kill her like somebody comes up behind her they like try and knock her off the road they

the whole thing yeah that that seems to be a reoccurring thing like it seems like they always have some type of hitmen or somebody who's coming after these people who are like getting really like really too close and kind of asking those right questions so it's it's even like that that whole story kind of reminds me of what happened last year in east palestine ohio with the train crashes and toxic materials falling into the you know the whole city and whatnot which was really odd about that story is that a year before a movie called White Noise was depicting that very scenario in East Palestine Ohio with a train crash and toxic materials falling in to the whole city not only that but they shot that very scene in East Palestine where the crash happened it's the it mirrors exactly a year before yeah which is insane so it's like all these like parallels it's kind of weird like how like life imitates art and vice versa you know so uh it's it's always i always say it's always in movies in media and music always kind of show you what's happening like even like the movie leave

the world behind i don't know if you've seen that movie yeah or i was going to say or so in the fift 40s whatever 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s right government stance no UFOs No UFOs. No UFOs. Doesn't it's all BS. These are sightings are not true. They then go out of their way to kind of villainize so much, but you know, embarrass or mock anybody who, any professional that says, listen, I saw, I think I saw a UFO. Pilots see them. They don't want to report it. That sort of thing. Well, you know, but then it's constantly in the media. It's in the media and it's in the um and i mean like see there are series about it there are movies about it so after 40 years of inserting it into the the um i just put this the uh the social you know

consciousness then it comes out there we have got we have got video you know the tick to video tic-tac tic-tac videos you know of hey we don't really know what these are and there are other videos and we have we do have reports and we do think that there is something we're not sure what they are but now keep in mind if they had told that or shown those videos in the 1940s or 50s there would have been mass panic yeah mass panic for sure and being that like we're so desensitized all these like alien movies and all this other stuff it's kind of like Oh, okay. Yeah, nope.

What's next? Everybody paid their mortgage. Right. Everybody paid their bills. Pay your taxes. Yeah. Exactly. Everybody's like, yeah, I kind of figured that.

Yeah. And that's how they do it. They do it through predictive programming and they just hammer it, you know, decade after decade with all this stuff. So it becomes acceptable. It's acceptable now. Exactly. And it works.

It works beautifully. Like a lot of people don't know that the Pentagon actually has a film fund. So, like, they worked directly. The government works directly with Hollywood to produce these films and make sure, you know, they're depended. Yeah, propaganda. They're depicted a certain way. Make sure you're not saying this. You're saying this.

So it's very, it's very real. So what are, what is your thoughts on, on this guy, John, whatever his name is? John Bennett. Yeah. John Bennett. Yeah, what do you think happened that the right questions were being asked and they, you know, sent somebody out there to have a chat with him or make sure he shouldn't have a chat anymore? Exactly. I mean, you just got to look at all the pieces on the puzzle of what's happening. And it's pretty obvious, right? So like, it doesn't make sense when you're spending all this time, all this money, is legal money

getting into court and you're in the middle of a deposition and then you just want to offer yourself in the middle of it so of course after you've been fighting all these years it doesn't make sense

like why now you're so close and you're definitely asking the right question so when you're getting that close I believe myself personal opinion that it was foul play.

It has to be because you're too close. And that industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. So you're reaching some powerful people. And even those powerful people have even more powerful people above them. So whatever the agenda they're trying to serve or whatever they're trying to protect or hide, they'll do it at all costs just for one guy, just, you know, breaking out all this information about him so i think he was definitely asking the right questions and he was very close to probably winning and you know they had uh plans otherwise for him did you see the

there's a video circulating where they were asking bowing employees would you ride would you fly on one of these planes and there and they have like two different employees are like no no i wouldn't I don't even fly, to be honest with you. I wouldn't fly, you know, after seeing some of the things that have happened here and that have been done, I wouldn't fly. Yeah, which is funny because in my Part 2 video, so there was a 737 that had major issues, like a whole panel came off. Boeing 737. I get a text message the day before it happens from a friend who worked at Boeing. they don't work there anymore and I kept them anonymous because they were like hey keep it anonymous

but you know I just saw your video and I wanted to tell you this they were they were working there for about no more than a year right and they didn't want to work there anymore and what happened was they worked in the main plant um in Washington and they told me that they worked in the engineering department in design and they were saying that hey I wouldn't fly any of those planes that's all you need to know and not only that if I didn't have any choice and I had to fly Boeing I would definitely avoid the 737 and I put that in my video screenshot it and put in my video and then the next day that came about and I was like okay I got to put this in a video this is crazy 737 is the worst of the worst of Boeing

and I know they had problems with the triple sevens and everything else but they said that hey don't if you have no choice you're flying Boeing not fly the 737 um shoot I was going to say well I was I was thinking about the the supposed suicide and

um I was thinking about that movie shooter did you ever see the movie shooter i did i did with mark walburr right yeah but they have the the fbi agent plays in it and they've actually got a contraption that they put on you on your neck and your arm that allows them to crank your hand like this while you're holding the gun like there's nothing you remember they they're cranking it up and he's like yeah that's put the gun to his head and that was insane yeah it was actually the guy that that plays the FBI and not not walber walberg of course ends up saving him um but yeah because

i always think to myself like how does that work you know but this way they get the that way they get the um the peppering of the uh um the gunpowder correct they get like like that's like the perfect scenario it's like it is like you did shoot yourself because you did right you had no bruising there's no like it's a perfect device um yeah that's insane Yeah, and that makes you think that if they have that in movies, like what else do they have that they're not showing up? You know, so like

if they have those mechanisms to where it looks like you're shooting yourself and you know, it's an accident or suicide, it's like, okay, so what else do they have? Like, I even looked into something they had that they declassified back in the 70s. And

it was a gun that wasn't a traditional gun. It was called a heart attack. gun and it shoots a dart and it hits you and it dissolves so it doesn't look like anything hit you or whatever but then it causes cardiac arrest so it makes it look like you had a heart attack and they had this back in the 70s and they declassified it in the 70s so who knows how long they had it right well and i wonder if the what i always wonder like what poisons do they have you know now that they could poison someone and it just wouldn't show up

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you guys have all this stuff so it makes you wonder like yeah what are they cooking up to use for their advantage right yeah it's wild and and i i think that again you know everything they put in the movies is very true and it may be you know five 10 20 years behind so they're comfortable enough to releasing that over information because they're like okay we could put that in the movie and make some money off of it and you know what we have now is way more advanced um well you know like we say you know um truth is stranger than fiction right it is it is all the stuff that's been happening lately in the past i would say four years alone i mean it sounds like a movie in itself and it's like who would have thought the whole world

would just stop right all of a sudden nothing is happening you know no work no school no nothing and the whole world just stops because of this virus so that's yeah it's wild to think about and all the things have transpired since then um so what do you think the result is like i mean of this the whole bowing thing like what is what do you think the next the next uh shoe drops you know what is what is it personally i think that you know we are stronger together as a collective so i think that when people are starting to not flyboeing or you know really raise questions and start to you know either petition and you know do whatever they got to do to take the money out of the corporations that's where you know you'll see change you know same thing with kellogs

how a lot of people are boycotting Kellogg's right now. People were boycotting it because the CEO said, uh, you should eat cereal for dinner because it's cheaper and it makes sense for, you know, lower income families. Like he really said this. Right. So people were outraged. They're like, I'm not eating cereal for dinner. Like, what are you talking about? So everybody starts boycotting. It's all over TikTok. People start boycotting. Then what happens is, the market had to react and their pockets start hurting so guess what? Now they're selling

Lucky Charms. You buy two you get three for free now. Okay. So that shows you right? And for them to do that they had no choice because people aren't buying their product. So I think the same thing with Boeing

has to happen to where people aren't flying, people are raising those right questions and taking the baton from where, you know, Bennett left off and then just running with it because, I mean, this is we use these planes every day. You know, I travel, you travel, everybody travels, right? So this is very serious. We have to be very serious about our lives. And I'm not getting on any planes that's falling apart. And, you know, how is that? Because there's nothing you can do.

You're on the plane, starts falling apart, mechanic issues and all this other stuff. It's like, what can you do so we have to get really serious about um these corporations and how they're treating us and you know moving forward with that so i know right so i was wondering what i what i meant was like what do you think happens like is there an investigation um do they do you think it they couldn't track it back to Boeing or you think it just dies uh it's hard to say right so like where do we go from here who picks it up where where do we go from here i mean if you're making a documentary about it people can raise questions social awareness is always good so if people are looking into it and asking those right questions then something can be done otherwise it does

die you know we can't you know just let stuff let it be because that's very suspicious right so this is why i do my videos because it's like we have to ask these questions we have to see what's really going on. And if I can spark somebody their mind and be like, okay, well, maybe I'll do something about it. And sometimes I'll take matters in my own hands. And, you know, it takes a village. It takes a community. So I think, you know, one individual person can't do so, but collectively

we can. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I can't imagine. That's, that's the best thing we do because, like, think about it. These corporations have billions of dollars they have you know tons of resources they want to snuff something out they can you know the media is in bed with them obviously it's all about you know profit over principle so they're you know and let's face it they have tons of money they can get the best people so nothing's going to point back to Boeing it would take it would take it would take another series of whistleblowers to put it all together and say hey this this is what happened i was in the meeting i have the emails

I have a recording that they called this black ops group that does this for you know for us it costs X amount they watched the guy for four days got him into a position where they knew he would be alone they grabbed him in his truck whatever you know they did whatever that's probably not going to happen yeah and I think that with that type of mountain to climb a lot of people don't, they'll see the mountain and just be like, you know, I can't take this on, at least not by themselves. It'll take somebody who's really

trying to, you know, make a change and then gather the troops from there. So that's what it really takes. But one person can't take him down because you saw what happened to John. So like and, you know, allegedly. But I think that personally

I think there was foul play. So it's going to take more than one person. Boeing, I think that I mean that in itself is just it's a still developing story so I think we'll hear more I don't think it's the end of it so this is just the tip of the iceberg

so I guess we'll see I had watched a video where they talked about just before he so he had been at a plant he'd worked at a plant where there were no issues like it was a really well-oiled machine right And I guess he got bored being there or something. I forget what their issue was.

So they transferred him to another plant. And the new plant, he walked around for like a day or two and was being shown around and that he had complained saying that the violations he had seen were just, you know, outrageous. And that at that plant, I believe he had filed, he'd put it in, he'd written like a memo saying, look, here are issues with the plant, with how you're. you know with your quality control procedures here are problems with uh that i'm seeing employees are on drugs i'm seeing like he he pointed out a bunch of stuff and he was apparently reprimanded where they were saying look like don't don't put that in writing don't put stuff like

that in writing like come to me talk to me whatever then he was moved i think to another plant where he wasn't happy there either he said it was just as bad if not worse than the first plant and that's when he retired that's what i had heard that's when he basically said okay well i'm gonna you know, whatever, early retirement or regardless, like after he left the company, that's when he filed the lawsuit. Right. You know, you were saying that you were saying that he was saying these things afterwards, but I heard he had started the process of making complaints with quality control procedures

while he was at the company. And they were giving him a hard time while he was at the company. And that was part of the reason he left. Yeah, it was gradual. It was gradual. And then after he left, then he filed. the actual lawsuit. But yeah, it was gradual to where he was seeing things that he didn't agree with.

And like the procedures and protocols, like the whole system was broken. And yeah, he didn't like it. And then he just left. And then he actually did something about it. I think we should definitely do this again. I got a lot of stories. I got a lot of stuff that's pretty interesting and juicy on all this kind of stuff. You know, investigative journalism and whatnot.

Spearsies, if you want to call on that. Well, I mean, yeah, it's like because I'm, I don't know, everybody that looks into, I mean, I call lots of things conspiracies. I don't, I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily or that it's, you know, a lot. It was so funny is that most of the conspiracies that I grew up with are now just the way it is. Right. That's just what happened. Like, yeah. They said the difference between, you know, the truth and the conspiracy is about six to 12 months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or it could be a couple of years, but either or. Do you know what the, shoot, you ever heard of the, I want to say it was a Ford Pinto? Ford Pinto. Do I know of that car? Yes. Yeah.

Okay. So, you know, they made them for a few years, right? And then it was built so that it was super cheap and it got good gas mileage. And then they were having accidents where people were, if you, basically, hit one from the behind they were they were blowing up and they were yeah that was one of the problems was like if it got hit from behind it blew up and it caught fire so multiple and i may not have this exactly right because they made a movie about it but they didn't use the ford pinto it they just it was just a vehicle you know they made it generic you know obviously for it's pretty big you don't

want to mention the ford pinto and you know so they just had kind of a generic kind of come company and what was happening. But it was based off this case. And essentially what the case was that this guy goes and he sues Ford because there's so many of these cases where these vehicles are blowing up. And they continually, and so what Ford would do is there would be a case and they would immediately go to the surviving family members. And they would, they would, they would settle with. them very quickly before they even thought they had a case and so what eventually happens is this guy's looking at them and looking at them and multiple attorneys have tried to get involved but they their experts would go out and they would look at it and they'd be like i just thought i've tested these things over and we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars testing this vehicle and we just can't figure out why they're blowing up right and so during the process of suing them they basically just overwhelm this guy with paperwork like every request he makes they don't say oh we don't

have that or we don't they just throw so much paperwork at him he can't keep up and he's a little time lawyer he can't you know he can't read you know you deposit 60 boxes at his at his law firm he yeah that's no there's no way getting through that this is hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of legal hours to read this and I can't do and I don't have the time so right so when is this like the 70s 80s yes he's outmanned he's outmatched yeah um comes to find out that it was a there was a switch that was located near the the near the gas tank and they had replaced the and they ford knew about the problem they knew that if the car was struck from behind the gas tank could be punctured and gasoline would hit this one switch or whatever, whatever it is.

And that if you had your blinker on, there's little sparks going. There's, and boom. So it would blow up. You're in a matchbox. Right. Or if you, like, if you had, if you kept your, your, there were several things that would do it. So when they were trying to re, you know, they were trying to get it to do it over and over again, and they couldn't get the sequence correct.

But Ford knew it was an issue. And the way they figured it out was they contacted someone in the accounting department, an actuary. And the actuary had done a study showing what would be more expensive, a total recall of all these vehicles where we have to fix the gas tank, or paying X amount of lawsuits, And they determined that it was cheaper to pay off the lawsuits than it would be for the recall. Of course.

That's all the product. That's everything. Right. Despite the fact that you're going to be setting people on fire. Right. You know, that wasn't even a consideration. It was just dollars and cents. Right.

And what ends up happening in that, in that, the lawsuit is, of course, they get found, it comes out. I don't think it ever went to, I don't think it ever got to, um, sent, uh, you. It got to an actual verdict. I think they just came and they gave them a massive settlement or something along those lines. It was just outrageous. I'd have to look it up. I'm sure I botched the whole thing. But it was something like that where it was an actuary that they just had because they basically destroyed all the evidence.

They didn't give them anything that could help them. And they didn't have enough money to to have this to prove that this was happening and how it was happening. So they're thinking what they were trying to get it thrown out all together. But they just happened to get to get the actuary who had. on the calculation and they happened to find this guy and he was like they're like did you do a study and he was like i did do a study what was the study on and it was like oh shit yeah so it's like okay so now you know and you let this happen so it was a massive massive that's insane wow yeah it's like i said it's profits over principle it's always that company they're like

like you said it's dollars and cents hey do we just keep killing people and just settle People to do that or yeah, let's do a recall. Nah, the recall is going to be too much. Let's just settle. That's how they see it. You know, it's funny. It's like sometimes you think you hear about these things where like they, this product was $110 was $120.

But if they use this product, let's say this part. This part is whatever, $120. But this part is $102. Now, the second one isn't as good. It's a little bit lighter, so it's, it actually saves us a little bit. And it's a little, it's a little not as durable. It's made out of a hard plastic instead of aluminum. But, you know, so it, the one product is $18 cheaper.

And you think, well, that's ridiculous. Nobody would make that decision. Yeah, but if you're producing, if you need, you know, 10,000 of these, that $18 is a huge savings to the company. So they make that decision, you know, you think, well, why would they do that? There's only 18 bucks. Yeah, but it wasn't $18. It was, you know, I'm saving them, you know, whatever, a million. One point, you know, whatever, one point eight million or, you know, whatever, 180, you know, whatever that number comes to, you're like, oh, okay, wow. You know, now it seems like, wow, that's a huge savings. Right. But in the end, that product wasn't as good. And it ends up, you know, you hope that it costs them a lot more than that. Right. You know, because that's the only way they would learn. yeah and yeah in the end it doesn't and they're going to keep doing it right i think that with this whole bowling thing they they rather just take the heat and be like okay you know allegedly let's

you know take care of this guy and we'll deal with the consequence well and keep in mind too i mean right now it is a conspiracy they can continue to say we had nothing like there's no proof this is a this is these whack jobs on the internet it's just a cons these are consistent The guy was depressed. He killed himself. That has nothing to do with us. There's no proof. And eventually, you know, that's what they get to keep falling back on. Well, if they if we did it, then why isn't there proof of it? Why didn't somebody see it? Why isn't there? Why? Where are these people? Like, well, why isn't there an investigation? The police clearly don't think that there's any anything foul play going on. They gave us a clear clean belt of hells. They how come the death certificate says suicide? Right. You know, you're saying very quickly they can. they can fall back on that as long as there's no nobody comes forward that's credible yeah and that's they they're counting on that they want somebody to be like they even if they're another there's another person coming forward and be like hey i'm gonna pick up where he left off okay we'll be ready for it you know but when it's like a whole mass movement then we'll start to see some

change but like when you're falling back on oh it's a conspiracy and then they'll just hope it dies the next story takes the news cycle and then these move forward that's what they're they're banking well i was going to say eliminating one one disgruntled loudmouth employee is easy but getting rid of 40 guys that have proof you know that's dangerous right you can't do it now can't do that right now what are we going to do we can't go around whacking everybody right exactly so if it's like like you said 30 40 50 people at a time now what now we have a problem on our hand so that's what it takes and i think that if he had rallied troops a bit more then he would have had some some serious firepower but harvey winstein had a good uh had a good run up until multiple women came forward bingo right he was

able to squash one at a time but when suddenly there's 12 of them is like ah damn it and they're all doing interviews they're all saying the same thing it's kind of I'm like, well, I can't put all these fires. Oh, now what? Okay, now they have to address it. Now they have to put them behind bars. Yeah. That's how it goes. Yeah, he was able to quash them when they were coming out one at a time, but

you know, yeah, he uh, boy, but he thought he had it. Yeah, and he, his whole play was, okay, you know, they're going to do you know, this and that, but I'll give them a career. So maybe they'll stay quiet a little bit longer,

you know, because they want their careers to take off so that's that's the character he was dangling yeah yeah did you ever see that video of him talking to that one woman there was a there's a like a she video recorded him when she was pitching him on some product she was trying to get and he's it's listen it's so disturbing no i don't know if i seen that one god bro he's so like so uh you want to meet later um so i like your nails uh like it was so i forget exactly what he was saying so Yeah, I haven't seen that creepy, bro. It was so bad.

I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah, I haven't seen that one. So, like, yeah, I'm sure it's pretty disturbing. Even the stuff that's coming out with P. Diddy and all this other stuff, like, this whole industry is starting to crumble. Because, you know, one by one, people are coming forward and saying stuff. So that's what's happening. Hey, if you like the video, do me a favor.

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