Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Cat Burglar Steals $7 Million from 200+ Homes | Jennifer Gomez

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

Cat Burglar Steals $7 Million from 200+ Homes | Jennifer Gomez

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August 1st. A break into rich people's homes. My parents are rich. My parents' friends are rich. My friends' parents are rich. I know how rich people live. It was over 200 homes. And then they stopped counting around for seven millions.

There's helicopters flying over. There's cops parked on every other street. other street. There's got to be like a murder on the loose. And the people were looking for me the whole time. That Friday they raided the house. He has no idea that I've ever been a criminal. He knows nothing. I'm fleeing the country. Please come with me. You're going to make me start crying because I see your eyes watering. Jesus Christ. Don't get teary eyed on me. You didn't get me a fuck up. When I first said cat burglar, when I jumped out there with it on social media, it was like, I said cat burglar because there's an element of stealth to a cat burglar

versus someone who throws a brick through a window and takes your laptop and runs to the pawn shop, you know? So there was like many times that people were, you know, would come face to face with me. They would lock eyes. They would offer to help me commit these crimes, not even knowing, neighbors and stuff. And nobody could ever ID me or like point me out or anything, any type of ID. So there was an element of stealthy invisibility to my cat burglar. Well, I automatically see, you know, I see catwoman, you know, stealing the side of a log,

a wall going in the window um well real quick like i mean where like i know you just came from jacksonville but where were you raised so until i was 10 i was in dominican republic my dad's dominican my mom's from spain okay um so i was in dominican republic so i was 10 and then we came to jacksonville florida and then i was there ever since i never left jacksonville why did why did you guys move from so my parents met in medical school um so my dad's psychiatrist my mom's a neurologist and they met in medical school in the DR. Yeah, I know crazy, right? Like, this was, that's, that's an element of my story, too.

That's so crazy because, like, I didn't have to, there wasn't anything that wasn't afforded to me. I didn't have to go out and be a dumb, crazy person that wanted to, like, they were laborers. Yeah, right. I wasn't struggling, like, in any facet, really. And so things that I did, they shouldn't have happened, and it's just ridiculous that they did. But anyway, so my parents met medical school. school my dad was um the professor in the psychiatric department and they basically started a practice in dominican republic but was your mom a student yeah she was a student you're kidding me a professor

slept with a student yeah i know right you just never think so um yeah he wooed her i guess and so they they got married um they had me while my mom was doing her residency they started a practice together but it was really mostly my dad um but my mom she wanted to to make a lot of money and she wanted to do big things and so she wanted to come here and um so they they did they came they came to the states and they just literally picked somewhere in florida because there was a lot of old people and my dad wanted to do geriatric psychiatry older people so they just came some they i asked them and they're like we literally just picked somewhere like in florida there's a lot of old people so well there's a lot of old people in florida

generally yeah yep yep so i wouldn't pick Miami but yeah um so that's that's how we ended Okay. So you went to what you? It's just you? You're an only child? My dad had three kids. My mom had three kids. And then they got married. And it's two boys and a girl and two girls and a boy. So it's, yeah, it's very, very comparable to the Brady bunch. He doesn't know what the Brady bunch is. Colby's so young. He doesn't know what the Brady bunches. I know. Colby's so young. I do all the time. At least twice an episode, somebody says something. And I know, my first thought is, Colby doesn't know who that is. I asked my son the other day. I was like, Dom, do you know any celebrities? Like, name a few celebrities, you know, and I'm like, so he says Slim Shady because he's on Eminem, but he knows him as Slim Shady because he's on Fortnite, and he's like The Rock, and then he named like some athletes. And he only knows him because he's on Fortnite. Because they're on Fortnite.

I'm not hip at all, right, right. But I know who Slim Shady is. Yeah, yeah. So he's like, and I'm like, do you know who? Because this was when the Diddy thing was just starting. And I was like, do you know who Puff Daddy is or like JLo and he's like Ariana Grande? And I'm like, no. But outside of like Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande and these few other people, all this, like, the world has changed.

Society has changed completely. We're not. There's no more celebrities. These shows. Everything's just, it's like different. Everything's so different. But yeah. So, okay.

So my dad had three. My mom had three. They got married. They had me. My brothers and sisters, they're all. And it really is like the Brady bunch. They're my dad's, my mom and my dad, each one, they're like they pair up, like two or 13, the next two or 11. in the next two or nine, and then I'm born.

So when I was born, it was 9, 11, and 13, and they all had like a pair. And basically what happened was they grew up kind of struggling because my parents, you know, my dad was, he was a professor. But by the time you came along. But by the time, yeah, that's what happened. By the time I came along, everything was great. It was, you know, good. Everything was good.

It was good. So I had a good life. And my brothers and sisters, they could not imagine how I wouldn't do great, like the greatest things with the life that was afforded to me when they were living. literally doing two-for-one coupons at Burger King and really struggling. That's how my siblings, they hate me. They're like, are you the youngest? 16 years old.

You got him, he got a car, got a brand new car. That's what happened to me. That's what happened to me. He had to be 17, had to pitch in. It was 10 year old piece of garbage. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

By the time I'm born at six years old, we moved into the new house with the pool. And, you know, it's huge in a nice area, Temple Terrace. And they're like, the fuck. Yeah, like he didn't. So are you the youngest? Yeah. that's it man it's the youngest thing i really feel like being in prison and talking to people and then people that have gotten in trouble there is something to this birth order thing they're like

the middle child the middle child the oldest the baby i mean it's it's yeah is the middle is the older children in your family are they kind of like they're exactly what you the stereotypical yes um that's my sister yeah super successful they're my sister is not like super successful that she's a realtor but you know things are going on now in that market so um but she's very anal she's very like everything just has its place black and white you're right or you're wrong this is good or it's bad and that's it like there is nothing else right that my sister uh listen my judgmental's hell no oh my god that's not true like and if if it's not whatever she likes like it's beyond her way is the right way it's just like it's her way is the only way like

How dare you even think of outside of whatever she thinks? If my sister texts me and she's like, oh, what are you doing today? I'm like, oh, I'm trying to find somebody that makes these mugs that are big enough that I can put my logo on that, you know, I'm just trying to kind of hunting down some mug stuff. Listen, I have two friends that make mugs? Have you tried this website? Like, she'll spend the next hour researching it. And she's trying to be helpful. Right, right, right, right, right.

You have to not mention things because she jumps all over it. And next thing you know, hey, I can schedule an appointment for it. Like, I've said I'm looking for mugs. And then they get aggravated. If you don't do whatever. Yes, I know. I got you. So, okay, so that happened.

And basically, I, by the time I was about 12, everybody was gone. You know, it was just my mom, my dad, myself. I think one brother was still living at home. But everybody was at school, university. Nobody has, like, just for reference, nobody in my family has tattoos. They don't smoke cigarettes. They, you know, might have an occasional social drink. Nobody's been to jail.

Nobody's been in trouble. I don't even know if these people have all gotten speeding tickets. I really don't know. But it's like the people, as in the whole group collectively. Yeah, I don't know. I can't say that every one of them has. But what ended up happening was my parents got divorced. So at 12, you know, things started kind of getting a little rocky.

My parents ended up getting divorced when I was 15. It was not traumatic. There was not like some moment that I had that was just, oh my gosh, my life is falling apart. it's not it at all um they got divorced i was fine with it i saved with my mom both of them were very successful but i always just had this need for like something else something i don't know i felt like i was just bored in life like the mundane things that everybody did get up go to work the same routine every day i just felt bored i needed some kind of like stimulation mentally i was just i just thought everything was boring as hell so i went and i sought it out and i found it in

people and environments and like just crazy things that weren't you know allowed like skipping school like just very basic you know not anything that's you sought out so i sought out i really sought out anything that was like quote unquote fun what i thought was fun but really it was just chaos and like toxicity and just whatever wasn't allowed um so i would like skip school basically my mom's only agenda was get good grades get good grades get into a good university follow the path that we all you know, followed and become a doctor or a lawyer or something like that. I'm sorry, but I'm desperately want to say a Spanish girl that seeks out toxicity. No, I know.

That's not true. I've never heard that. Listen, I was married to a Puerto Rican. It's like, that's our element. It's our element like is to. He was happiest when there was chaos that she can complain. I, I know this. I just want peace.

I know this. I know this. They will create it. And I'm not going to lie. I'm not above it. There was a lot of years of my life where if things were going good, I would, I mean, God, I don't even want to say it. But yeah, I would like create.

Yeah, I would say, I would create something. I would sabotage it and create something because. Some women do that. And now, but listen, thankfully now I'm at peace. No, no, you're all better. It was a bad time. It was a bad time. It's a lot of bad years.

But I didn't even know they were bad because I was having fun. I was having a great time. So in the midst of all this, I started dating, you know, I started finding an attraction to guys that were just douchebags and that had... Bad boys. Yeah, bad boys. The very, very classic bad boy. And I met a Russian and how much, I mean, how much more bad can you get than a Russian who just

came to this country a few years ago has all these like illicit businesses that you don't know what's going on? How old are you? I met him and I was 17. How old was he? He was four years older than me. So he was 21. And he had only been here like maybe, I don't know, a year or so when I met him.

so but everybody told me my the reason I'm the way I met him was because my best friend was Russian and you know a lot of those yeah they they click up in a or what do you call it not groups but yeah communities yeah right communities exactly um so there was like a little Russian community and my best friend and I were in high school um we went to a party that was one of her parents friend's son the parents were out of town and the son was having a house party and so I met this Russian and I met him at the party and I thought he was just like super mysterious and powerful and he had this big S-500 Mercedes black with, you know, dark, like just all these things, you know, and plus I'm like 17 and he's 21 and so the car alone was just like, yeah, very impressive.

You know, your standards back then are, the checklist is very superficial. So I saw this car, I saw him, he was attractive, nobody was dating him. So he wasn't like some jock at the school that was passed around. And I was like, I like him. And my best friend was like, stay away from him completely because he is just, trouble he's bad news and I was like why and she couldn't give me an answer she couldn't tell me why she just said that her parents said that him and his family were bad news and I was like okay so that made him more attractive so at that point I was like okay I got to figure him out you know I ended up leaving the party

that night and he actually cut me off in my car and he was like hey where are you going and I was like home and he was like well you want to go hang out and I was like yeah do I yeah yeah I've been thinking about this for like the last half hour yes I do um so we went and hung out nothing crazy happened we just dated for like a couple not even a month maybe like maybe like around a month we talked on the phone i was still going to school so i did not i wasn't you know going on trips or anything with him i was young um but we would talk on the phone all the time i would sneak out to go see him i would spend the weekends hanging out with him and we hadn't even had sex or anything like we were just you know little kid type of stuff um and he's waiting for

you to be 18 basically maybe man i don't know but then even before that happened he disappeared the guy just disappeared one day just no more answering the phone it's an international intrigue story yeah it's it is because I was but then I got pissed because after he disappeared for long enough I was like I asked her we like where is he Katie where is he everybody where is he nobody knew where he was nobody knew anything about his whereabouts I couldn't go ask his parents because they didn't know me so I just left it at that and I chalked it up to like oh he has a wife somewhere and you know he just was like using me for that month for I don't know what and I mean

jail basically so he ended up fleeing the country but I didn't know this okay he was gone for four about four years one night at a club I I never forgot him by the way Matt I never forgot him he always was in my heart I was like this fuck was gonna appear one day somewhere like this guy's gonna come back and so I just I just thought he was like my Prince Charming out there and one day I was at the club four years have gone by i'm pulling in the valet um and because you know we valeted back then because we i don't know why i had a Mitsubishi eclipse so i don't know i'm valet

but i was valet with my friends we're getting out of the car there's a big s 500 black mercedes in front of me but it's a newer body style and i see it and the car forever stuck with me is like his car you know it's like when you smell cologne or perfume and you're like or hear a song you're like remember that time so when i see an s 500 Mercedes i it's him it's always him so it's black and it's I'm like, oh, man, him, you know. And then I see a dude coming out of the club, walking to that car, and I swear to everything, it's his entire silhouette. And I'm like, Katie, because it's still my best friend, Katie.

I'm like, that's him. That's him. And she's like, no. But anyways, I couldn't get a good look. There was, like, columns and pillars and all kinds of stuff. And then he got in the car fast. And so I just tried to forget about it that night. I asked some people, nobody would give me, like, a clear answer.

And I was just like, what are the chances? Like, there's no way. Because it's been four years now. You got these, it's been a long time. So after that, what's his name? His name's Gia. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Yeah. I was going to say it a little while ago, but I was like, if I say Gia, then people might be like, what did she say? What, G-I-Y-A. So, yeah. Okay, so his name's Gregorian, but anyways. So, yeah. Very, very, very.

That car left the club. I went in. I tried to party. I did. I kind of try to forget about it because I was like, I'm crazy. person like that's there's no way it was him i end up going back to the apartment that katie my best friend and i shared and all the sudden around 3 30 in the morning there's a knock and i'm like huh and you know we're both a little drunk you know i i don't know how we survived back then

without DUIs and stuff or like killing anybody because anyways i don't know how any of us survived anybody my age is like 40 survived those times without getting trafficked or like killed or so we drove home and we were a little tipsy and i'm like who the hell's at our door this time. And I'm, you know, I'm thinking maybe it's like somebody for Katie or something. So I literally, I look through the peephole and I swear again on, it's this guy. It's that silhouette. But I can't see him very well. It's kind of dark. I see it and I'm like, so I crack the door and I have a little chain on. He's like, hey, baby. And I'm like, what? And it was him. So in, and he has, man, I got it like, when we're done, I have to show you, I have to,

like, show you a video so you can hear his voice because you have to really like conceptualize this because he has this heavy ass accent and so anyway so he's like hey and I'm like oh my gosh that doesn't sound sexy it doesn't it sounds so corny but it was it was sexy I promise it was sexy so I opened the door and I'm instantly flooded with like holy shit I'm so happy to see you holy shit I have another boyfriend holy shit where did you go like where have you been you're an asshole you know and how are you back like everything's just so weird and I'm drunk so you know I feel like this guy looks like Drago from from Rocky, Rocky 3. Do you know who Drago is?

I don't know who that is, but what does he look like? Are you serious in Rocky 3, the Russian from Rocky 3? No, but is he like, like six foot four? Can I just show you him real quick? Sure, I'll pause it. Can we use a picture of him here or not? Yeah, yeah, you can use a picture of him. He got murdered a year ago and before he got murdered.

This is Drago. No, he does. He's got, he's dark, but I'll show you. He was, before he left, before he left, before he got murdered, he, the VH, I was doing that VH1 thing, and he was like super excited about it. He was like, yeah, I want to be on there, put my pictures, I'm being famous, baby, and all this stuff. So he does like literally not care at all. If he was here, he would tell you that, and I know it. Listen.

Hey, baby, what's up? Are you okay? What happened to you? You got lust. Just write me sometime with something, man. Talk to me. Don't fucking get, don't get up. I'm a fucking up.

I will kill you a motherfucker. Don't you want to do it. I'm fucking don't chill. See you two bitches dumb. I'll tell you when to get up. No, he was like real deal. I tell people, I'm like, he was really a mafia guy. And that was part of the attraction because he was so nice to me.

He'll be like, hey, baby. Yeah, it was serious. So what is okay? I didn't know that. I didn't know that was at the end. I was trying to find one. I mean, I'm sure I've heard it, but. Yeah, that was good.

That sums it up. Yeah, it does. So do you want to pick, do you, well, so that's what he looks like. Oh, my, you know who he looks like? Joseph Vitale. Looks just like, look, even that, is that not a Vitaly picture? So that is him. That is Gia.

And he came in, so, you know, circling back to the apartment. He's at the apartment door. I'm excited. I'm also a little piss that you've been missing for four years. And it's just all confusing. So he comes in, at first I'm like, yeah, whatever. But then I'm like, you know, I want to be like that tough woman. Like, I'm not just going to fall for you again.

Like, what the hell? And how did you even find my, like, everything's going through my head? How did you even find where I'm out right now? How do you know where my partner is? So anyways, he ends up telling me that he was fleeing the country because he got in some legal problems. He didn't go too much into detail. But he said that there, you know, somebody was hurt. hurt. I found out later that, yes, somebody was hurt. Somebody was like stabbed. They ended up in a

wheelchair. Then they wouldn't testify against him. So that's why he came back. They paid him. A bunch of like weird shady dealing. So he ended up coming back. And he was here. And he just never forgot me. And he just loved me all these years and always thought about me and whatever. And so I'm trying to be like all hard and tough. But of course, I'm like, okay. I never forgot you either. And I'm like, all right. Yeah. So I'm excited. I'm like. this is like some kind of mafia love story and those always end up well to be fair all the movies I watched all the you know casinos and all the um didn't end up well everything everything all the classic you know goodfellas mob movies I always like almost idolized that that wife role that

mob wife role even though they went through shit they got cheated on they got like a piece all this stuff I just saw it as like I had this thing where I was just enamored with power powerful guys who were like very feared by others but were super nice to me and he fit that mold that's us that's our dynamic like I thought him walking into a room or walking down the street and people being like you know was like a great thing but then he's like you know because he was he actually was really nice to me like he was never abusive he never talked to me bad he was never he was just never mean or forceful or aggressive with me at all. I don't even really honestly can remember many times when we got into an argument, like even just, you know, a verbal

argument. He would usually let me have it. He would give me whatever I wanted. He was just really nice to me. And it wasn't like a honeymoon phase thing either because when we did end up dating again, we ended up dating for quite a few years. And he was like that the whole time. So anyways, it was really hard to break loose from that because he was good to me. So I overlooked a lot of things he was doing in life. I started slowly finding out things like he had, he had this. So the extortion, kidnappings and murders. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's his work life.

I didn't. And you know what? That's how, that's, I promise you, that's how I thought about him. I was like, I'm not doing it. It's not me. I'm not there. I'm not present. I'm not a part of it.

You don't have to convince me. I don't. I'm okay. All right. Because I was like, I literally don't know what's going on over there, but I just love you. So just leave that over there. and I'm just going to keep living over here. Sometimes you're going to dinner,

you can hear the guy kicking in the trunk, but you just put that aside. You compartmentalize the fact that there's a guy tied up in the trunk. I was so good at compartmentalizing. So good. Yeah, actually, things like that happened. It's really, it's funny that you actually use those examples. So then something like this would happen, right? So just so you can see what I'm looking at.

I would see his, he had a business. He had a mortgage company or so I thought. I can deal. Listen, I can deal with the kidnappings, the extortion. A mortgage broker? This is like his office, right? Now, he's not a mortgage broker. He's just, you know, he owns a, it just says a Marifund mortgage ink on the sign. That's what I see. I think it's a mortgage company. I mean, okay, so I go to the office several times and I'm like, so that's the picture of the office and I'm like, there's nobody, like, where are your employees? There's nobody in here. It's a desk. there's like one phone that has a long cord to a wall there's like two chairs and maybe like a half computer like the keyboard or something where is everybody and where is everything where your filing cabinets we're just and he's like oh they're out they're buying he his it was under the guys that like they were buying foreclosed homes like that's the properties they would buy they would

rehab them and then they would sell them put them back on market rent them whatever um so i believed it and i was like oh they're all out you know on the field out in the field or whatever they're on-site getting these foreclosed homes. And so I started noticing weird things, no employees, a weird office. Then you have like a mechanic shop, but I don't ever see anyone like bringing a car and getting a fixed. I just see cars going in and then I don't see them coming back out. And I'm like, what's odd?

Where's the other one's owner going to pick up their car? So I'm thinking, I'm starting to actually think now. This is before I started hearing people kicking in trunks and stuff like that. so I'm starting to think like things are strange because for a while I'm this honestly for a while in the beginning I actually thought that these businesses were legit and that's how they made their money I didn't know criminals I didn't grow up around them I just did not think I thought criminals looked like you know people in alleys with guns and like hoods and stuff so prosecutors describe that as willful blindness but go ahead yeah yeah yeah I would I would say I didn't the all the signs were there but you didn't allow yourself to yeah and yeah and like since nothing was directly affecting me I didn't care to investigate more I was like this is so so I basically um this went on for a couple years and there came a point when one day I was at the house and he called me and um he well no let me let me back up about three weeks before this incident that I was about to explain it was maybe five six in the morning and I had

been asleep all night like a normal person and I hear a lot of ruckus in the garage and we have this are in our home um and I hear a lot of ruckus in our home um and I hear a lot of ruckus in the garage. At this point, I've, like, distanced myself from my family because they think he's not a good person. So I'm isolated from them. I've isolated from all my friends. I've dropped out of college, and I'm just, like, with this guy in our own little world that nobody likes. And so I hear all this ruckus in the garage, and I get up, and when I go out there, I see him and a couple of other Russian guys speaking in Russian and moving a lot of equipment. I mean, equipment like this, like, you know, just tech type of stuff, but it looks like it all came from like a club, like club type of things,

you know big huge speakers a big like turntable type of setup things like that and a lot of it so I'm like what's going on and I wasn't it wasn't that I wasn't used to things coming in the garage because from the homes that were being rehabbed there was always like refrigerators and stoves and things like that coming through because they were fixing the homes right so I just I was used to seeing a lot of appliances and things around but anyways it was like they were moving fast they were talking you know fast and it all just felt a little shady so I was like what's going on he was like oh baby go back go back to sleep go back to sleep so i was like okay so i went back to sleep i left it alone i didn't really think much of it um soon after that maybe like a day or two i was like what was going on

in the garage and finally he was like okay this guy borrowed money from me he had an after hours club because it was very big for the russian community to all have like little after hour spots gia had one as well he had an after hours club as well um his wasn't like a little spot it was like a club like he had a big club. So he basically was like, this guy borrowed money from me because his club wasn't doing well. So he had this big club

and he said that this guy that had like a smaller spot was doing really bad and he needed a little loan so I guess we're in loan sharking too now. But anyways, he loaned him the money he didn't pay it back

so he went and he took all his shit. He took all his expensive equipment you can't run the spot without the equipment and he took it all and if he had to he would just sell it and get his money back. So I was like so that was the first moment

that he actually admitted something criminal directly to me face to face and that was the moment that you know a normal person would be like oh shit like you're now you're just outright saying it because once you kind of open the door and start revealing yourself to people it's not like the mask is slipping like you're telling them now

and now they're starting to you know their standards my standards were lowering like I'm finding these things acceptable I'm okay with it and I'm staying so now I'm you know I'm complicit in this now because I'm also how you rope someone is you give them a little pieces and that's what happened walk in and say i got 14 businesses they're all criminal that's exactly to the t what happened shortly after

that about three weeks um he ended up calling me one day it was you know in the afternoon middle of day and he ended up saying baby i've been shot i've been shot i know that baby startled you right startled the hell on me too so when he called me and that happened i was like you've been what shot like i've never i've never even do a funeral at this point i didn't know anybody that's died I didn't know anybody that's been shot. Like, this is, this is, I'm not, not in this life. So I'm like, you've been shot and he's like, yeah. And I'm like, where the hell are you?

So he ends up telling me where he's at. He ends up pulling over. I go to meet him. When I get to the place where his car is parked, he's moved to the passenger seat. He is holding his arm. It looks like it's just gone straight through. And he's holding it. He's got a shirt tied around it.

And he's bleeding pretty bad. And at this point, I'm like, okay, so let's go to the hospital. And he's like, no, no hospitals. And I'm like, oh, shit, here's that stuff I see in the movies. The Goodfellas, the casino movies, no hospital. This is not good. Wasn't a robbery that you can explain. So. Did you ask what happened?

I did not at that moment. He was kind of going in and out. It wasn't in and out of like consciousness, but it was just in and out of like, shit, this hurts, like leave me the fuck alone, type of thing. So I didn't want to be like super naggy at that moment. I wanted to make sure he was safe and okay. and I knew I would get the details later or so, you know, I thought. So I did ask him what happened and he said someone shot him,

which obviously I could see that. But I didn't question much more. Yeah, yeah. So I end up leaving my car there. I end up driving him home. I get him in the shower when we get home. I put a chair in there. He sits down, kind of washing everything off.

He's just kind of sitting there like this. At this point, he's like, baby, get the stuff out of my car. Please go burn it. Take all these clothes that he just took off burn him. And I'm like, okay. go burn to clothes man I'm getting I'm in this I'm getting in this shit deep

so I get the clothes I go outside I burn him I go in the car make sure there's nothing else in there I find a boulder like not a boulder I guess a boulder is huge like a piece of concrete like this and it has blood on it and not like a speckle like a lot like a big piece of blood

on this rock on this huge rock cement thing so I take that I try to put it in the burn pit and anyways I burn everything so now another thing thing has happened you know so now these things are happening and so a couple days go by he does finally end up telling me that he went to go do a drug deal he ended up he's he's now telling me that he's selling which he was he actually got caught federal got caught by the feds bringing it from

new york to florida um and he disappeared one time in the midst of our relationship for like two or three days and i didn't know where he was and his mom said that he was like on a little mini like vacay with his brother who needed to do something for like like medically do something with his brother and those people were very like they were very secretive and stuff and especially women like you don't ask a lot of questions so when she said like the dad the brother and him went to go do something that was medically necessary for the brother that was just it but really he was in jail in Georgia in a federal detention center in Georgia I don't know a lot about feds but it was a federal detention center in Georgia in Fulton I think right right yeah probably

trying to remember Atlanta City detention center ACDC yeah I I don't, yeah, it was something federal. There was like three cars and they were coming from New York and they each had heroin in him and he was in the last car but he did not have him in his but they were all together and I guess they could like prove it or whatever. At the very least they could hold him for a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

And that's what happened. So they ended up holding him for like three, I think maybe four days. And when he had disappeared so, you know, so anyways, I ended finding out about that like the truth about that. And he totally said like it really wasn't his, whatever. You know, he was just making a little money. off the side being like security escorting and I'm like you're not security type so this doesn't make sense but so I'm finding out all these things just like you said I'm finding out little by little

now the shooting thing and what ended up happening was I ended up becoming involved because when the shooting happened okay because I had to give you the back story because a lot of times people they know my story about being a cat burglar but they don't know how I really got there and why like I didn't just wake up the daughter of two doctors who had a good education and a good future and say I'm going to start robbing people for their shit all over Florida like it's crazy so I ended up getting into it like this he wanted to go get back his stuff from this guy who he was doing a drug deal with the guy supposedly ended up saying he was going to buy a large amount of but when Gia got there the guy ended up pulling a gun on him shooting him and taking the drugs and not paying him so Gia was very

pissed off and he wanted to go get his money his drugs and beat the guy up and like whatever just get payback all around however he could um i like the noble girlfriend bonnie and clide er that i was at the moment said i'm going with you and i'm going to be the driver because let's go get this guy let's go get this fucker and get all your shit back and i'm going to drive you because who's going to look out better than me like your friends aren't going to do it they don't care they're going probably they're going to haul ass if they see the guy or pull out with a gun or something like that so i'm like i'm going i'm driving he's like no no no and i'm like yes i'm going so I went. So I drove him. I drove him to the house. But the house wasn't just any house. It was a trap house

because that's the only house he knew the guy to have because that's where the guy was selling drugs out of. So he didn't know like his personal residence. So he tells me to stay in the car and he's like very adamant about it. Stay in the car. And I stay in the car for like 30 seconds. And then I start looking around. I'm like, holy fuck. I am in like, I'm in the hood. I'm in the real, real like the thick of the hood i am i mean these like it was the hood like where they sell drugs out the crack of the window that has just the board on it you don't even see a face i don't know if there's like guns pointed out the windows i'm looking for lasers and stuff i'm freaking new jack city yes i'm freaking out man i am freaking no no you don't know what new jack city is jesus no no jack city is jesus

no no jack city no no actually that was a good one no vice city jesus new jack city anyway okay well i'll I'll send you the trailer. Yeah. Actually, that was a good one. It was a great movie. That was a good one. And it tells you a lot about what things that actually happened. The crack epidemic, how it expanded, blew up, how they did.

Wait, what was the one with Denzel with the hell and how the one blew up? Remember? Oh, yeah, yeah. You're talking about American gangster? Did you see that one? Okay. Because that one has some. I don't know about that.

Anyway. That was not true? No. Oh, okay. I've seen some of that. I think he's seen a clip. Yeah, maybe he saw the commercial or like in a TikTok. Someone referenced it.

They're like, American ganges. Exactly. Okay. So I'm in the car for 30 seconds and I'm starting to trip out because I'm looking around and I'm just realizing that I'm in the car by myself. When he was next to me with his protection and stuff. I was going to say it's easy to be a gangster when you were living in the upper middle class condo.

Absolutely. But when you drove down the hood, you realized. When I drove down the hood and he's not in the car anymore. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Now I'm freaking out. so I'm like oh hell no so what do I do I think it's a better idea to get out of the car and be more visible and follow him so I do that I get out the car and I mean it's it's night time so it's not like super late but it is night time so I'm trying to be sneaky and I go and I go in the direction that I saw him going I mean there's only like a couple houses over there but I saw where he went so I go in that same direction and when I go like around the house the corner of the house I see that there's a window open and I know he's gone in that window everything looks dark in there So, I mean, just, it all makes sense.

So I, thank God it made sense because I would have hate to go on into somebody's house. So it wasn't his. So I go in and he's like, what the fuck are you doing in here? Like, what is going on? You're supposed to stay in the car or whatever? And I'm like, well, I'm here. And I was scared. So I'm here.

Okay. And now that's just what it is. So he's like, fuck it. So we're in there. We don't find a lot. We find some bags of weed. I don't know a lot about weed. But in just like, you know, for reference, it was maybe like a few sandwich bags.

of weed full like stuffed full so not anything out of this world um but i thought it was a good thing i was like yeah you got all his weed like i thought it was a big score so we take it there was some money in there too um but it wasn't a lot we leave but now this has like opened the gates like now like this was the catalyst to everything else that would come this was right this is just fast tracking my everything that would come after and basically i um at that point was like i was like i was desensitized. I was okay now with going into strangers' homes, taking their shit, you know, but at this point I was still feeling like they deserved it. They're drug dealers. Like, we're not following the letter of the law because none of us are. I'm robbing you. You're selling

drugs. These aren't patriots. Yeah, right, right. So what does it matter? So that kind of made it a little different. But so he started, so he started saying, you know, letting me know all the people that he needed to get back money from drugs from whatever people that had done him wrong he never flat out admitted that he was just like robbing people just for the fuck of it but he he was and it finally so this went on for some months maybe like six months or so it got to he's burglarizing houses where he's robbing people it's all drug dealers like it's not the burglary like what i was doing right he's robbing drug dealers for their drugs or their money okay um he's either going to their traps or he's robbing them face to face like with the gun like give me your shit type of stuff so as this

is happening I'm always the driver I'm always there and there finally comes a day when he tells me that he's met a guy and it's a really good lick and you know but in my mind it's also weird because he's got business like even if all the other businesses are bullshit and they're just fronts or whatever which they were the after hours club people are paying to get in there they're buying beer and wine he doesn't have a liquor license, but they're buying money. He's making money. Like, you don't have to do this, but he was just addicted to this lifestyle. So it finally came a point where he said he met a guy and it was a really good lick. The guy was coming into the After Hours Club. And he was like a little young guy who had rich parents flashing a lot of money, buying big amounts of drugs

and selling them. And he wanted to get this guy because it was just too easy not to get him and whatever. I drove him there. He ended up going in a couple minutes later. He's running out with duffel bags. I'm pulling out of the driveway like, because the guy's running out of the house and the guy has a shotgun. So the guy, so I'm in the driveway. Like I'm pulled in the driveway like this. Like my headlights are facing his house. He has a truck that's backed into the driveway with the headlights facing out. So him and I are like this in the driveway, right? So as I'm pulling out, he's jumping in his car with the shotgun and he's going forward. So we're nose to nose like pulling backwards. I mean, I'm a little bit, you know, further than him. And I just keep going.

and this guy's shooting through the windshield and Gia's like, baby, duck. And I'm like, I'm fucking driving. Like, I can't duck. I'm driving backwards at that. Right. Then the bullet,

because shotgun bullets, they go like. They spread, yeah. Yeah, they do a lot of damage. What kind of bullet is this? It broke the whole windshield. It went through the back. It busted like the whole headrest,

the whole middle thing. Anyways, it was very intense. It was very crazy. I ended up pulling into some random person's driveway turning off the lights and it just looked like, I guess, a car that lived there. And we lost him.

I mean, I think Gia probably would have got out and beat him up with his own gun because the guy was not like the most huge... But he did have a shotgun. He did have a shotgun, but he was crazy too. Like, he would run up on a shot. Like, I think his just pure psychoticness of what he was willing to do was,

it caused a lot of intimidation for people because they're like, you know, crazy people are sometimes more dangerous than the badass. Yeah. So that was the one event that was like, okay, now we're Robin. people so things are going in steps here now we're robbing people just because they're good

licks um and what ended up happening was this all continued we were robbing people um it was always drugs and money but one day i was driving to so let me just let you in on this too because this was a part of it as well um and i'm actually glad you're letting me explain all this because i don't ever get to explain these parts and nobody ever knows like what actually happened this first time i've explained this in depth so he had this after hour club like I've been saying and he um you know he was selling but he was also doing and one night we were parting my girlfriends were there like we were all parting like not close girlfriends but club clubby girls um because I had like isolated from everybody at this point so I had done a line of cocaine

not even a line like a bump and I did not like it I was like looking at the I remember thinking those air vent those things right there there was like devices in them I'm already hyper by nature I don't need anything to amp me up. I feel like you're doing the bump. You're like, I'm completely against this, by the way. I was. I was like, I'm only doing this because I don't like beer. And I'm not drinking.

You feel bloated after pee every five seconds. And then all of a sudden I'm like, baby, there's devices in that air event right there. Like, you don't hear the footsteps on the roof. That's how I was feeling. I remember these things. I remember looking down at my arm and seeing worms. I don't even know to this day it was pain. Some people were like, Jen, that wasn't because.

I don't know what it was, but it was not good. And I was like, oh, my God. And I could see him moving. And I was like, fuck, no. I was like, you got, I got to get off this stuff. So anyways, he had a liquor in his office. So he gave me a shot of vodka. I chugged a beer behind it.

Nothing was getting rid of this awful feeling that I had. So at this point, he was like, okay, I'm going to give you a little bump of this which was the other powder was white. This one was like brownish, brownish, brownish. And he's like, just take a bump of this. Yeah, I didn't know when he didn't tell me I didn't care though

I probably wouldn't have cared if he did because I was so upset feeling the way I was feeling I was like geeked up out of this world so I was like okay just give it to me whatever but I kind of thought

maybe it was like a pill crushed up or something that was my first thought I took it and I instantly felt good I was instantly like yeah this is it everything started feeling warm I started itching

I remember my butt cheeks started it was weirdest thing I was like what is this I just felt so good. I loved everybody. Everybody was my best friend. I was feeling the best. Like, it was the best feeling in the world. And so I was like, yeah, this is it, man. This is where it's at. I don't want to drink. I don't want to nothing. Just me like a little, you know, a bit of that. And I did, he did tell me it was, but I had this preconceived notion of like what hair was, like the

stereotypical alley, junkie, shooting up with a needle, hunched over a buggy, dirty, whatever. I didn't, I didn't know. I thought it was you had to do it intravenously. I didn't know it was a powder that you could sniff so that kind of changed my perception my perception of it like okay it's a powder i can sniff i just had a lot of tongue twisty words man i did not know it was a powder and i didn't know you could sniff it right so when i found it you could sniff and i was like oh i can do this like you know a high class person i can just like okay and not have to uh so that's what i did i sniffed it um and i loved it and it was great and so during all of this burglary well not burglary during these robberies of these drug dealers and these crimes and these fake businesses that

aren't businesses that I still don't even really know about yet but then you know obviously they're not um I've I'm now doing in on a regular basis socially as a party drug which only is going to lead to addiction we all know like you're never going to do a hard drug and not get addicted so I end up getting addicted and I didn't even know it I stopped doing it for a couple days at one point in time and then I started getting like sweaty I thought I was sick I thought I had like a cold or something and I was like yeah man I don't feel good like I feel you know like I like I'm really sick like I just feel bad and he was like fuck you know because I think deep like deep down in his heart he really loved me somewhere and didn't want me to be a drug addict but it was just

we were in the life man we were just all you know all systems go so like whatever but I think he felt I could tell for a moment he felt bad um so anyways He explained to me that that's like what withdraws feel like. That's what's going on. And basically I can either push through it, which is what I should do, or I could just take a bump and I would be okay. And I didn't want to feel like that. And so anyway, so I become addicted.

One night after about six more months of doing all of this. Now drugs, robbing people, the club life, all this stuff, going fast nowhere. I end up getting a craving for like some candy one night. So I get in my car and I drive to a gas station, which is down the street from where we live, where our home is. When you come out of our neighborhood out of our subdivision, you can turn left or right and it's just a two-way street.

But down, half a mile down, there's a little gas station. So I get in my car and I go. As I get in my car, I get the things, I get the gummies. They were lifesaver-buried gummies. And I leave the gas station. And as I'm leaving, I really want to eat one. So I go to grab it, but it falls off the car, off the seat, onto the floorboard. So I bend down to grab it.

And when I bend down to grab it, I come back up and I'm just like kind of drifting off into the shoulder. And it's like a little two-way road. So I'm drifting off into the shoulder and I panic because there's like trees in a big ditch. And I overcorrect. And when I overcorrect, I spin out, I fish tail, I spin out. It's okay. I'm so sorry. I spin out and then I fly I like go off the ditch like kind of because the ditch is really

I go off and I kind of go over the ditch into some trees I'm not like off the ground but I'm just like lodged in between some trees I can't open the door so I go out the sunroof and lo and behold there was like a forest ranger who saw it and was going to work and pulled over and called the police for me and I was like thank you you know whatever whatever he was like just wait for him so they get there um you know I'm at the same time I'm calling Gia they have like a tow truck that has toe capacity and like one of those

things that pull it and so I know they can hook it up and like get it out so when that happened so I'm thinking okay they can do that we don't need a tow truck the car is probably a little fucked

but they have like the mechanic shops so at least they can fix it you know it gotta have something there they can fix it with so the cops get there and they run my information and then they tell me to turn around

and they put me in cuffs and they're like you're under arrest and I'm like the fuck I just wanted some gummies savers. Why am I under arrest? And they're like, you have a warrant out for burglary. And I'm like, what? So I won't bore you with all the details of this. But in the beginning, before I really knew everything that was going on, I ended up pawning some things. I also, you know, there was several, yeah, there was several things that happened. They ended up raiding the house

that we had and it was in my name. There were stolen things there. Apparently the appliances that I kept seeing coming and going, they were from homes that were being vandalized or burned down insurance fraud, and the appliances would be taken out, then they would claim them, they would get the money for them, and then they would just resell them or put them in new homes that they actually were going to rehab. So that, but the burglary, that night in particular, the issue was I had a burglary and a false verification to a pawnbroker because I sold some little, like, I'm telling you about literally, $100, $200 worth of shit jewelry. like little dinky chains in like a ring that he said they found in a house that they had

foreclosed on somebody left behind like what are we going to do with it just go get a couple hundred bucks like whatever we can throw it away we're not going to wear it so i was like yeah for sure so i just went and got a couple hundred bucks for and that was it so um i pawned that and so this warrant was and at that moment was for that i went to jail i got bonded out when i got bonded out I got bonded out by my mom. I was just thinking, what are your parents thinking at this point? So my mom is like, you know, now I have kept my distance big time, like big, big time. Every I told you in the world, very upset, very disappointed because like why, you know what I mean?

Like, why from every angle? I mean, just, God, why. And so basically, you know, my mom was like, I'm going to get you an attorney. I'm going to bond you out. But there's going to be some conditions. You can't see the guy. You cannot go back to that house.

Whatever's there. It's a loss. Like, just it's gone. Chalk it up. It's gone. We'll get you new stuff. It's done. Even the car.

The car is even gone. Just let it all go. So I want to get some fuck out of jail. So I'm like, hell yeah, where do I sign? Like, let's do it. I won't see anybody. I won't whatever. Why didn't you call Gia?

I did call him. I did. But there was no answer. I couldn't find him. I couldn't nothing. I didn't. You guys are living together, though. There was, I couldn't find him that.

I could. I'm going to tell you where he was, but I couldn't find him. So, um, what happened was my mom picked me up. And I'm very sad at this point because I'm like, damn, you know, I thought he flaked on me. Like, I'm feeling like, damn, you just left me to rot in this shit, you know. But also like, it just wasn't really his character, um, that, he was. he would just leave me like that like at least he would send somebody to bond me out this was was just very weird um so what happened was I part of the conditions he I couldn't have contact with

him and I was so scared to go back to jail I did not call him after I was in jail I called him from jail but he didn't answer I didn't call him after I got out when I went to my mom's um I ended up going to a rehab facility they wanted me to detox and go to a rehab as part of the conditions that my mom had and the bondsman said that I had to do it too and then my lawyer said it would look good for the judge so first time being in trouble ever so go to rehab let's you know make this look the best we can so i did go to rehab while i was in rehab i get a visit my third week there was four it was a month rehab my third week there i get a visit and i don't know who it is and it's very weird because visitation's always on sunday and it's from like whatever time i don't remember to three o'clock

and i know when my mom's coming and she didn't she wasn't coming that day so i was like this is strange so i end up going out to like the lobby area because they call and said I had a visit over the speaker. And when I get to the lobby area, I see a big white S-500 Mercedes in the parking lot. And his brother, Armin, always has the white Mercedes and he always has the black one. So I'm like, no.

So as I'm walking through the lobby, I see the door open to the Mercedes and I see Armin getting out. And so I hurry up and walk out there because I'm scared. I don't want to go back to jail, man. But I, you know, I'm so, I'm curious. And we have enough closure.

Like, I went to go eat gummies and now I haven't seen you for almost a month. and we were like in it thick deep you know so like so um i go out there and armand's like hey um you know he is in the car i haven't made it to the car yet he's like he is in the car and there's something going on and you need to know about it and whatever he's fleeing the country so i go i look i try to act like you know i don't not seeing him because i feel like there's bondsmen watching me from the bushes and shit i don't know how this works never been in trouble so i'm like oh my god he's like baby i'm sorry but right after i got arrested he got arrested he got arrested

he got arrested for all the shit in the house and all the things and then he was on bond for um he had bonded out i don't know a lot about that federal thing right but so like i don't know when we were talking earlier if he was just detained he was out on bond but i don't know what they had because they didn't find anything in the car so i don't know how that works it felt like with the with that federal thing like with the state you have to have evidence like it's say like here this is what it is it felt like with that federal thing they could just say like hey we think you did it so that's it because that's how it felt like the way he was describing it i know he probably wasn't being totally truthful but that's what it felt like so the federal thing plus that arrest with the

house and everything like it was just all coming down on him and he knew he was about to get like some serious serious time for a lot of stuff and everything was about to explode and he was fleeing the country they did arrest him he did end up bonding out but with the state thing but he wanted to get to leave before the federal thing whatever the mess was he was locked up for a little bit of time then he was like paranoid and now he's saying i'm fleeing the country please come with me and i was like oh man because i mean it sounded exciting for a second like i love you and like i know you can take care of me even if you're killing people so we can eat but okay like yeah but i don't want to be on the run for the rest of my life

and i felt so bad for my mom and i'm going to be in a country where i don't speak the language and i'm totally dependent on you and like he said he was going back to russia he said he was he said he was going back to Russia so I was like fuck man so you have a passport I do have a passport yeah I've had a passport since I mean I used to go back to Spain my mom's from Barcelona to Spain I used to go to Spain every summer and my dad's so yeah so I had my passport and it was up to date and everything and so I could have I could have gone with him right that second and he wanted me to like he wanted me to go inside and get whatever I wanted to get come back to that Mercedes get in the car and let's get out of here and he had a way he had he had fled the country already before and

come back like he knew how to get in and out so it's not like we were going to Delta and saying can we get two tickets to Russia please like he had his own little ways or whatever so um so yeah so i was like no it was very very hard and i was very sad and i kind of knew at that moment like if i said no and he got in the car and drove away i probably never see him again and that was the end of that love story and like whatever but probably for the best so i said no and i waved and i cried and as the car was pulling off i was crying oh man it was like something out of a movie i was like and i walked away and i was like and then i went and cried in my pillow. It was like so funny. I was so ridiculous. So anyway, I would

see the fucker again. So whatever. But basically I, that was it. That chapter closed for a long time. And I got out of rehab. And so just to fast track through all of this, I got out of rehab. I relapsed a few times. I never relapsed. Wow. So this was a serious thing. Yeah. I did not relapse on ever again. But I relapsed on pills. and I did not I'm being completely honest I know this sounds like a cop-out but I didn't know

this was at the beginning of the pill pill mill epaeton all that stuff I didn't know that you get the same feeling from an opiate that you get from like painkiller that you get from him like that was before it was just talked about

that this is when people were first starting to like take morphine and then the oxy 80s and all that you went backwards you started with I started with heroin and went to where usually people take the pills then they can't get

get them or afford them. Yes. I went completely backwards and I did not know it. I never had been around pills. I never had dealt in pills. I never, nothing. I relapse and I end up taking an oxy. And no, I relapse and I end up taking a roxy. And when I take a roxy, I did not know that I was going to get the same feeling. And I was just kind of like, oh, okay. So, you know, I feel really good again but it's not going so I can probably just take them here and there and whatever and I couldn't so I become addicted again and when I become full-blown addicted I need money because I can't just go say hey mom I dropped out of college and dated a Russian mobster and went to jail can I please get like $5,000 so I can support this pill habit that's expensive for the next couple weeks like no and

I was working but it wasn't like I was a reception as like a law firm or something I was in my early like mid-20s at this point I was not doing shit with my life but I was working but I just just wasn't enough money and I was starting over the house I had with him was gone the car was gone everything was gone and I was starting over and I'm living with my mom it wasn't very exciting so so I was like well what do I know how to do to get fast money is to break into people's homes so this is what sounded like a great idea to me sounded like a good plan but the only problem was I'm not going to go break into a drug dealer's home and his trap house because I'm going to get literally like I can't even pull into that neighborhood

without somebody being like what the fuck I mean you're going to get drugs and I'm going to resell right right so it's like the whole thing so now I'm like okay I need a plan to do the same kind of thing where I can get money quickly but it has to be efficient and effective for my lifestyle because I have to you know I have to be able to fit in wherever I'm robbing I have to be able to It has to be lucrative enough. It has to be something that I can offload. And if it's not cash, like, what am I going to do? So I figured, okay, well, I'll break into rich people's homes.

My parents are rich. My parents' friends are rich. My friends' parents are rich. I know how rich people live. They always have, like, a little bank envelope somewhere in their house because an emergency is going to happen in Florida. The bank's going to close. There's going to be a hurricane.

They always have at least a couple, like, five, you know, grand in an envelope in their closet somewhere or in their drawer. They always have nice jewelry. Rich husbands, you know, gift their rich wives. well gift their wives or whomever nice things you know the bigger the price tax so whatever so i knew you'd have nice jewelry i knew these rich people would have a little stack of money somewhere and maybe they'd have more valuable things and i know that i'm not going to look out of place in a neighborhood like that because i can make myself fit in so i'm just going to make provisions to how you know fit

into the neighborhood have the right vehicle have the right setup have the right story have the right you know clothing everything all that and basically what i thought was okay i don't have the muscle so i'm by myself let me do this in a way that's going to be smart and reasonable for me and i had never burglarized a home by myself so i didn't really know what i was going what i was getting into i didn't know the obstacles i was going to run into but i knew that i would figure it out along the way and that's exactly what happened so only thing i knew from movies literally this had no benefit to it was that you leave shoe prints and you leave DNA behind and that's how they get you that's what I saw on the TV shows and that so I wasn't going to leave DNA behind

and I wasn't going to leave my shoe print which is ridiculous because no no cops are sending DNA people and and shoot a footprint people to go look for a burglar okay unless you're robbing like the president or like unless someone's murdered so I wore shoes that were always a size too small or a size too big and I always tied my hair back really tight and I had gloves I figured if I had all that, I was at least good. It was like the starter kit. I ended up eventually getting like a little tool set that had like a cutter. It didn't cut glass.

But people would be surprised that in Florida, a lot of windows, they're not like reinforced. They're not strong. They're like single pane windows. Right. And they break. I mean, they're just not strong windows. And it's like a super modern home. So I realized that with this little tool thing that I had to had, I went in and I told the guy,

hey if my home's on fire at the supply store my home's on fire and I need to get out a window and I can't break it do you have something they can break it and he showed me this little like thing and it had these three little tools and like the first one like you whip them out like this and the first one was like something that made like an outline like a scratching glass

the second one was like a little hammer thing and the third one was like a little suction cup so I just figured I'd use all of them whenever I could however I could and I started learning and I started practicing and I realized some of them when you hit them they shatter and then some of them they don't some of them you can suck the whole thing out my whole point was not to separate the magnets on the alarms so i was like okay don't separate the magnets on the alarms just go through the take the glass out and walk in but don't separate the magnets okay check okay but now we have motion detectors how do we make sure that the motion detectors aren't going to detect me well they need to have an animal they have an animal the animal's walking around rich probably rich um um Rich people aren't, they don't have pit bulls and in a crate somewhere.

They have a golden doodle or a Frenchier or a lab walking around and he's wagging his tail even if you're burglarizing their home. So I just needed there to be some kind of animal. And then I knew that the motion detectors would be off. I knew that because I grew up with golden retrievers and my mom would always make it a point to torn. To turn off. A point to torn.

My mom would always make it a point to turn the sensors off in those. zones so indie could walk around right so okay animal check how am i going to know if there's an animal okay look for things toys outside little water bowl look through a window rich people you will not believe how so many rich people have the little sign right in the front door right by the doorbell right by the freaking handle the front door it says in case of an emergency or in case of fire rescue my dog or cat willie rescue willie okay so now i don't even have to look because you You just told me Willie's in your house walking around. Right.

So check. Okay. Now. We put a lot more thought into this than most burglars that I, well, you know. Like smash and grab, right? Right, right. But I wanted to, I want, I didn't want to go to jail. You know, I didn't want to go to jail.

So I wanted to make sure that I had provisions in place in case I ran into one of these things. So, so, okay, so then I'm like, okay, I'm going to ring the doorbell and I'm going to, hopefully nobody answers. but if somebody answers what am I going to say okay what am I going to say huh I go to my mom's office and I work a lot in her doctor's office I used to file and stuff and I had scrubs so I had scrubs on a lot throughout the week um scrubs huh okay I'm going to say that I'm there to pick up the dogs for the doggy day out so you know it'll go with the scrubs so I'm like I'm just like walking you through like I'm thinking all this so I'm like hey I'm here to pick up your doggy wrong

house you're at the wrong house that's it so I you know they'd answer and I'd be like hey I'm here to pick up, you know, Willie and Rufus for their doggy day out on the transportation, and they'd be like, you have the wrong house. And I'd be like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Let me go call my boss in the car and check. And then I'd wave. And, you know, perception is crazy. Because when you're in someone's face and you're like, hey, I'm here, this is me. Look at me. I'm friendly. I'm nice. I'm outgoing. And all this stuff, they don't, you doing something bad is the last thing on their mind. Because everyone thinks a criminal is going to be hiding and sneaking and, you know, doing all this creepy shady shit and that's just that's so I tried to do the opposite and so um

if they didn't answer the door now what am I going to do I need to find one of those windows but I would try to find homes that have like privacy fences or a lot of shrubbery and things like that something that could hide me so if I found all that I would go to the backyard um and I would find a window I would tap them a lot at first to see like some windows you could feel me and were like solid big windows and some windows were just you could tell they were flimsy like you'd knock on them and they you know would wiggle and stuff it was really weird like shake yeah so um i kind of try to feel which window and just you know remember hey like do not separate the magnets so when i would find the window i would knock some more at this point i'm still going around and i'm knocking on all these windows

like in the backyard sliding glass door and everything because i want to make sure like okay you maybe you were in the shower maybe you had headphones on maybe you just didn't hear me ringing the front doorbell so i'm i want to like knock some more but now i have to have a different story because if I'm in your backyard knocking for Willie and Rufus, that's just creep as hell. This employee is way too determined to get these dogs, and it's weird. So I can't be in your backyard looking for the dogs. Like, that's crazy.

So at this point, I would say to them, hey, my friend, my coworker, whomever, Samantha, she asked me to come check on her mom, Miss Martha, because Miss Martha's not answering the phone and she's really worried about her. And she didn't have a break, but I did. So I'm just here to check on Miss Martha. That's why I'm knocking like a crazy person.

like Ms. Martha, Ms. Martha, you know? Right. And I'm saying this as I'm in the backyard, like, Miss Martha. And so, and I did run into people sometimes, and they would be like, oh, you have the wrong house. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Miss Martha, we got to find Ms. Martha. You know what I mean?

Like, got to find Ms. Martha. So, you know, and nobody's going to be upset or offended if you came looking for a dog and you were at the wrong house or you came to do a welfare check on an elderly person and you had the wrong house. It's not going to offend people and it's not going to raise suspicion. So, you know, I was good. go. So, but if all that goes well, then I will go ahead and I will, you know, get in. I'll break glass or suck glass out or whatever. Right. I was so immature. Okay. So anyways, yeah, so I'll go in

and I will always try to target the master bedroom or an office. The master bedroom, of course, you know, jewelry and things in there, but usually in the closet is where I know that there's like the money or a little safe or things like that. It's really surprising how much of the same kind of things rich people do. Like, I don't know. It's just like, I don't know if they see their friend do it and they do it or whatever, but it's like they all have these little safes. They hardly ever lock it. They, you know, just the same types of behavior. So I kind of knew what to look for and what to do. I could get it in and out pretty easily. I had my car, which was my personal car, which was a Mercedes, because I, you know, was paying homage to my Mercedes guy.

But I had my Mercedes, but I also had, I bought from an auction. I had a friend who was a car dealer and he had a dealer's license. So he would go to the auctions. And I got an Impala. It was just a silver Chevy Impala, no bells and whistles, very standard, just police car. And I use that to do my burglaries. I use that to do my burglaries because, like, rich people, you know, they see an Impala. They're not going to, like, well, I don't know.

It's a Hyundaiwu. Like, they don't know. It's a Saturn. whatever it's silver right um i also had some stolen license plates that i had stolen i was just going to ask that was it registered to you yeah like so the impala was registered to me it was mine but i had stolen license plates that i had stolen several like throughout a period of you know two weeks or so i'm just taken from here or there and i would put that over my like i just put it right on top of my license plate literally with tape with big duct tape just put two big things

behind and slap it on and just cruise on out try to make sure i drive safe i surprisingly enough never got pulled over not once um and this i did this for about i don't know a couple years um but anyway so i never got pulled over at the fake license plates or the stolen license plates or anything and what ended up happening was i got sentenced so the the charge for the burglary and the pawn broker thing that i had originally that got me you know him and i separated um i still had to face you know the charge charge so i ended up getting probation and by the time i got probation because they had dragged out so long. By the time I got probation, I had already relapsed. And I was already, you know, in the, in the fields of burglarizing. So the day that I went to probation, when you

signed probation papers, and I don't know, like, you're on probation or not, maybe, I don't know, but anyways, either way. Federal supervised release. Okay. So I, no, I don't know. It's probably different because you're supervised by the United States of America and I'm supervised by Florida. God, that's heavy. Like, when it's like the United States of America versus you versus is a little Florida. So Florida is supervising me, not the whole country. So I don't know. It's probably different. But like in Florida, you go sign when you get on probation like that morning, or the day, whatever, you have 24 hours to go and like meet your probation officer, sign your paperwork. And part of signing your paperwork is acknowledging the rules. And the rules very clearly state

and they will let you know that you do not have the right to consent or deny to a search of you, of your person or your property. Like a cop can knock on your door and say, hey I like ran your license plate in your driveway you're on probation I want to come in to search and like they can there's just you can they can do it at any point same thing for no okay exact same okay so that I was like freaked out about that I was like holy hell that's but whatever okay so I went and unsigned my paperwork that morning I read everything I was like Jesus when I was leaving probation with my paperwork I was like damn I need I need some money because I need to get some you know some pills and I don't have any money and

So I was like, all right, I'm going to have to hit a house. But the weird, like, this is where I didn't prepare. A lot of times, especially in movies and things like that, you see them like doing surveillance, looking for patterns, looking for schedules, watching who lives there and all that. So I didn't do any of that. I found it to be like a waste of time just because I, you know, you could be sick that day and stay home. I could watch you every day and you go to work from seven to, you know, whatever time.

And then that day you're sick and you're home. And now I have like a whole thing. You know, everything could change because. one factor shifts and then all the work that you've done with surveilling the house it's like totally you know it's out the window so i just knock on the door yeah easier to just knock on the door right for your doodles like have provisions in place to make your presence excusable versus trying to find the right way in time to get this no i'm not doing all that so i most of the homes and i said all that to say this most of the homes i burglarized it was a crime of opportunity

so that day that i was leaving probation i was driving and i knew that i was going to do this. And I was driving by and I always went to very nice upscale neighborhoods. You know, now prices of the homes are very different. But back then, half a million dollars to, you know, $1.5,2 million were very nice homes, wealthy people. Now you can't get a home for half. You can't get a home for under 400 grand. So whatever. But I was going to those type of neighborhoods. And so I was driving past this neighborhood. And I saw that there was like, the way the neighborhood was set up was very, very good for me. There was privacy fences and then there was also homes that backed up to like a street that was a main street, but it wasn't a huge main road. So I was like, okay, this is good.

So I pulled in there. I looked around and I was like, yes, this is good. This is the house. But instead of like pulling right up to their driveway, I actually pulled onto the main road and like on the emergency bike lane or whatever. And I jumped the guy's fence and then I went like via that route. So I went kind of through the backyard and kind of scoped everything out. But then I went and knocked on the door and nobody was home and I did my whole shindig and nobody answered I broke in I went through the window when I got in I you know luckily was in the master bedroom and I started going through the drawers and as I started going through drawers I started putting things in my purse and I ended up running across a gun and I was like oh shit let me you know put that to the side over there because

this could turn into a really serious charge if I pick this gun up or take it out or anything right the difference between a burglary and an armed burglary is a difference between a first degree felony in a second degree felony and difference between life in like 10 years. So anyways, that's even if I take the gun out of the house with me and it's not mine. So I don't have to necessarily bring it. So I didn't want to touch it. I put it in the corner. But as I noticed it as I was like putting things in my purse, it was, there was a lot going on in my purse. It was very, there was something really just going on with it. And I wanted that out of the way. So I looked down and it was my paperwork, my probation paperwork. So I took it out of my purse and I put it on the desk or

on the dresser. And I was like, okay, I'll get you in a minute when I'm done. So I keep going, I keep getting things, and I'm like, you know, putting things in my purse. And all a sudden, I hear a man's voice say, hey, what are you doing? And I turn around and there's a man in the doorway. And I'm like, oh my God. And I used to do things to try to ensure that I would not run into anybody. Like, I would always go lock the garage door that led to the garage, because most you will pull into their garage and then go into their house, they don't lock that door. So I thought, like, I would lock that. I would hear jiggling. I would hear beep, or like, even if the alarm's on on. I would hear like the beep of the door, something, right?

I would hear something. And I didn't hear anything. And so I was very shocked. And when he said that, and I turned around and looked, he was big as hell. I mean, he was like the whole door frame. So I was like, oh, shit. And I promise you, I don't know where this came from. But I was like, I'm a juvenile.

I'm a juvenile. Don't touch me. I'm a juvenile. I put my hands up because I wanted to startle him and make him. And I was hoping like he was smart enough to catch it. Like, hey, there's a juvenile in my house. Her against me is not going to look good. So, you know, let me just stop because if he tackled me, it was over.

So I was like, I'm a juvenile, I'm a juvenile, don't touch me. And I kept backing up and backing up until I got to the door. And thank God he didn't move. He looked totally shocked, totally freaked out and totally confused. And I was like, good. So I backed all the way up to the wall. Once I hit the wall, I turned around and I bolted out the window. When I bolted out the window, I ran, I jumped the fence.

I get into my car and I was like really athletic. I just jumped the fences, parkour. And then I get in the car. When I get in the car, I start to drive up. off and I look over my purse and I'm like, fuck the probation papers with my name and my address and my birthday and like everything else. So here we are. Come get me are on this fucking guy's dresser.

So at this point, I was like, okay, I have to make a decision. There's like a 50-50 shot. And I always tell this part of the story with this because I remember having this conversation with myself so well. Like I had this conversation with myself and it was in detail. Like there was two people. I was like, okay, Jen, you can go back. and there's a 50-50 shot of getting caught.

He can walk in on you and tackle you to the ground. But there's also a 50-50 chance you could get out, Scott-free, and be done. So, you know, if you don't. If you don't. If you don't. Right. So I was like, I'm going to take the 50-50.

The 100% is not looking good. I'm taking the 50-50. So I, believe it or not, I went back. I did actually get in. I jumped in. I heard the guy talking outside very loud. He had a very deep voice. I heard him.

So I knew he was outside. I got in the window. I got my papers and I got back out. But unfortunately, as I was getting, you know, jumping the fence, for some reason, I did something different. Like, I'm a creature of habit. So when I came back to his house, I didn't park directly behind his home. I parked in the next door neighbor's home, just like maybe 10 feet up.

And when I, so I jumped the neighbor's fence trying to kind of hear and gauge what was going on. And that's when I heard him outside and I jumped his fence and went back and through the broken window. But when I went back out of his house, I ended up jumping. the neighbor's fence and then having to jump another fence against my car same way i came in i was going out so instead of just going out in his backyard and jumping dude's fence and getting running a little further down to my car i just jumped two fences and it was just so bizarre but i did it and in the midst

of doing that as i think i'm about to get away and hurdle my last fence i get tackled and i you know i don't know because obviously i never talked to them again i never saw them again right i don't know how the fuck the big guy told the other guy that hey this all happened and it's a girl or what transpired that made this guy tackle me. But he tackled me to the ground, and then he hit on me, and then he held my arms till the police came. And then he called his neighbor so he could hold my other arm. I wasn't talking.

I wasn't saying anything. I was very pissed off. And so, yeah, so I did get arrested that day, the same day I signed probation for the other charges. Now I was on probation. I mean, now I was in jail and violated that probation, which is terrible. And so now I sat in the county jail for a good while. It was like, I don't know, 13. months, something like that, 14 months. And I ended up getting sentenced to a longer rehab. So I had a good

attorney. You still didn't get jail time? No. So I ended up getting sentenced to two years of community control without the monitor. Oh no, you need jail time. You're a miss. I did. I did. I did. I'm not going to lie. I did. So I ended up getting sentenced to the Phoenix House, which is a rehab in Ocala, Florida. And that is where I would have my last and final arrest that would send me off off to prison. I would go from there. Basically, I ended up going to that rehab. I ended up staying in that rehab. It's 18 to 24 month rehab. I ended up staying there for roughly a little under a year, like 10, 11 months. I graduated that program and I ended up staying in Ocala. When I stayed in that city, it was just for various reasons. I didn't have a boyfriend at the time. I didn't have any kids. I didn't have

any reason to come back to Jacksonville right away. And you have to do an aftercare program. So I just said I would do it there anyways. So that's what I did. And in the midst of getting, graduating that program and going to an apartment that I had now, you know, got in that town, I met my son's father. I met a guy. And when I met this guy, he's a very nice guy, good family, never been in trouble, never been arrested. He just thought I was super exciting, a lot of fun. I think I was to him kind of like what the Russian was to me because I was like exciting and something so different than he had ever dated. his parents are like mega very very very well off very they have a huge business metal business

and um just a good guy you know went to college just all around good clean-cut guy I met him and things were all right for a little while he didn't know anything about my life he didn't know how I ended up in that city I told him I was there for a change of scenery change of pace wanted to slow it down a bit come here and go to school because I had enrolled in the community college just to do something while I was there but I relapsed again um with pills with the pills. I never went back to the heroin, but I did relapse with the pills again. So now this is the second relapse. And now this is second relapse. And I ended up, now I've like kind of, you know, fine-tuned the burglaries. I know what I'm doing now. So now I'm in a whole new town,

a whole new stomping ground with new homes, more rich people. And I've fine-tuned all the things that didn't work the first go-round, like leaving my probation papers on someone's desk, you know. So now I've fine-tuned everything regarding my career, criminal lifestyle, and I know what I'm doing. So I'm going to go back to what I do best, which is, okay, I've relapsed again. And they're not lying. Like when people say when you relapse, you kind of pick up right where you left off, like, it's so true. And so I, you know, I started doing Roxy's again, and basically I needed a lot of money because now they were expensive. they were a lot more expensive the pill mill age was starting and um they're trying to shut down

basically yeah the prices yeah they were going from like eight to ten dollars to like 20 30 yeah dollar milligram that's exactly what was going so so you know these they're like 30 dollars for one and i need like four to be okay and i would take four like five times a day i mean it was i was taking like 30 a day on regular days if i could it was it was crazy so i needed a lot of money and um I, but I had a whole new area now that was just untouched. So I started going at it. An untapped market. Untapped market.

And the good thing about this market was that these homes, they call Ocala Horse Country, and there's just like a lot of big open space plantation style homes and things like that. And so you don't have neighbors. So like I don't care if you have privacy fence or shrubbery or whatever. Like I, Joe down the street is two miles away. He's not seeing anything. I can break it through your front window, which I had. and nobody even notices like so anyhow I start burglarizing I start doing it now you know the guy I'm dating he has no idea anything that's going on he doesn't know why sometimes I'm a little sleepy like this he doesn't know why I wake with five in the morning and then have these odd hours because I would work I would go and I would burglarize from about 730ish or so I would start but I would wake up at like 536 something like that I would kind of get ready get my gear together get myself mentally prepared for my speeches all of that and

then I would go out and I would always burglarize between like 730, 8 o'clock. Then I would stop like around 1130 and then I would go back out around 1, 1 30 and then I would stop again like around 3.30. So I was like these are the hours that people are, you know, maybe you come home for lunch, maybe you don't, but these are the hours that I'm pretty sure nobody's going to be home. I would always try to make sure that, you know, as best as I could. If it was like raining or drizzling, I would make sure, hey, this is a good day. I need to hit a lot of homes because this, people are outside. They're not outside jogging. They're not walking their babies. They're not, you know, whatever.

They're not cutting the grass. They're not going to come back in from jogging. You're in their bedroom. Right, right. How many else is a day are you doing? You're like a lot of homes. Yeah, yeah. One every few days.

No, no, no. Oh, no. Gosh, that wouldn't have been near enough. So on a, on a rainy drizzly day, it would be like maybe seven to nine. On a really nice day where maybe people are outside, three to five. So, but no less than three. Like if I don't hit three, then I'm. You're going to be sick.

Yeah, there's not. And then I also, I have a lifestyle. Like, I like nice things. So I need to also not only support this habit, but my lifestyle because I'm paying for, you know, my rent. I'm paying for my two cars, the one that's burglarizing, the one not. I'm like, like, I have all these things. And, you know, and I like cosmetics and purses and jewelry. So, you know, I need, I need.

So anyways, I'm at least burglarizing three homes a day. but most of the time it was we're averaging like five um i would try to really capitalize on rainy days and so and the alarms aren't going off there was like maybe i mean you okay so just to give you some numbers you know for reference here um my paperwork like if you go through my court papers and everything like that it was over 200 homes um and that i mean it's it is a lot but it's not because it was over a couple years but it was it was definitely and when I say over like it was like well they stopped counting at certain points um and then they stopped counting around so my lawyer had them stopped counting at two million at one million you can start garnishing wages for life in

Florida um but he had him stopped counting at two million and just said we'll pay back this much but added up it was over seven million so um I didn't you know I've never like sat down and done all the math but it was definitely you know it was excessive it was excessive and I and I wish I had something to show for it yeah it was it was yeah um I didn't feel like I was prolific at the moment I you know I thought I was just surviving but you know in hindsight I like I didn't have this shit yeah everybody's doing it right yeah I felt like yeah this is just a very normal thing like people burglarize all the time they steal purses don't they they run up to grandmas and take their purse but they're not stealing millions of dollars so um so how are you one more hold on one more question yeah yeah how are

you getting rid of the stuff okay so that's what right right right right assuming you're on that lesson right i i definitely do not set foot in a pawn shop i still even like to this day because records are very easy to get you can go on fdoc.com fdoc.com um because people i guess lie about their stories and it's very bizarre because it's like you can literally go look it up so anyways when you look up all the charges there's still that one little pesky false verification to a pawnbroker from 2007 and it's from that so yeah so i never did that again um what i ended up doing was like okay i i'm going to get the gold and i'm going to get the cash but i have to get rid of the gold somehow and how am i going to do that so i thought well i could sell the gold outright but then the way i got caught in the pawn shop was

because the person identified the piece of jewelry and they said it was identifiable and i guess so the police explained that like if there's you know if it's like a wedding band or something whatever but if it's like has it you know it's inscribed and says joe and martha 204 then you know that's identifiable yeah and so if the homeowner can identify it or there's pictures that they have it on and then they go to pawn shops looking for it or whatever like there's a lot of ways they can find it if it can be identified um so i knew that a lot of these nice big heavy pieces would be identifiable obviously so how am i going to get rid of it i can't even sell it outright like under the table to somebody because it's still identifiable. So I was like maybe I can

melt it down. How do you melt gold downs? Like there's not this is not you know YouTube time where you can learn how to do you know heart surgery on YouTube like this is so I did not really know what to do. So I remembered a lot of the things I did was like me really just thinking about things that I had seen just referencing like things I had seen heard or thought in my life like I remember seeing signs we buy gold we buy scrap metal antique dealer we buy gold like stuff like that so i was like let me go check these people out see what they're about they're talking about we buy gold let me go see if they'll buy this gold right so i ended up finding out that you can melt gold down and there's a refinery a machine that separates the gold from the impurities and if you basically have that machine

or you can find that machine then you can melt the gold down into any kind of size bar or brick with a certain template or, you know, if the person has it. So I ended up finding a guy and he had a shop and he had a refinery. His store was like a surplus store. It was like a store like a mom and pop Home Depot. They sold toilet flushers and screens and like little bullshit like that. And I went in there because he had a big sign outside that says we buy gold. We buy scrap gold because there's a difference between like precious metal and regular metal. So I found out all these things as I was going along. And basically he said he had a refinery and he could melt it down i came in there was like hey i came into my grandma's estate she passed she has a lot of gold it's like scrap stuff some stuff's broken

i don't want it all can i just like melt it and get myself a little brick or something and he said oh i understand yeah and he's like right right exactly he's like yeah yeah and i was really that happens all the time right so when he told me that happens all the time and i can do it i was like okay well do you have like a fee like a rental fee or something for a machine and so now we're understanding each other and he's like yeah sure it depends on how much you melt whatever so anyways he had a five ounce gold template so i would make these five ounce gold bars i always called them bricks but they're bars they're it's like the size of a business card literally and like a little like you know thicker a little ingot yeah yeah yeah so it's five ounces five ounces of pure gold

um and basically i was so i was melting that down and i was trying to at least leave with three maybe four five six seven bars every day but at least three bars every time I would go. And I would go to his shop a couple times a week. I mean, maybe like four or five times a week. Grandma loved her. Bling, bling. Yeah. Yeah. And then so I would take those bars and I would sell them to gold collectors, gold dealers that I would find online, antique collectors, people that own coin shops, things like that. I would find them online. This was a big problem because I started mailing the stuff out. And then when it was going to different states, when I ended up getting caught they were like uh this is crossing state lines this could be like government federal stuff

whatever it didn't but anyways um thank god so basically i was selling it to them and i was selling the five ounces of gold and i you know sometimes i would sell several to one person sometimes i would sell one to one person and i just kept doing this and doing this and just like you know so because i know a lot of people you throw numbers out there you say things but just to i like to give them reference points so they know so like back then an ounce of gold was roughly like $1,200 for an ounce. And that's like without the stones and, you know, gold that was good. Because here 14-carat gold is really like 10.

And 10 is really like 8. Like there's a lot of impurities. If you go to like India or overseas somewhere, like the Middle East and buy gold, it's like really what they say it is. But here it's not. So if I would have like a Ziploc bag, like a zip lock bag full of gold, like entire like packed with gold, minimal stones, mostly 14 karat, some 10, that would be roughly like 20 grand

20 to 22 grand somewhere in there melted down so I tried to at least get a few of those bags in a week I couldn't always have a bag to fill up but that's why I tried to burglary so many homes was because I wanted to make sure I would get those little bags and then I could take them

and every time I'd get a bag I would go and you know so this is what I was doing this was the whole gimmick this was paying for my lifestyle this was paying for my drug addiction this was paying for everything and I was living well too I mean, I was doing whatever I wanted. So it kept going and going.

One time I ran into a safe, I made it a point not to tote out big objects, but one time I ran into a safe and I just knew there was like millions of dollars in there at least a million. And I was like, I'm getting this safe out. But the safe was heavy as hell. So I drugged that bitch out on a sheet through the house on these people's tile and I drug it out on a sheet. But then I had a problem because, you know, I can't separate the magnets.

So I got to the front door and now I got to open the door and I got to separate the magnets. So I was like, okay, this alarm is about to go beep for like 30 to 45 seconds. And then it's going to woo, woo, woo, so if I can get this beast to my car in this amount of time, then I'm good. But it's not likely. So, you know, okay, what am I going to do? Okay. So finally, so I go, I go back out the window.

I go back to my car. I get in my car. I back that thing. I back that bitch up all the way to the front door. Like this is a nice home. Let's just say like a million dollar home. I don't remember. I don't, like it's like a million dollar home, we'll just say, right?

I have my car literally backed up all the way to their front door over their grass and their sidewalk looking suspicious as hell with the trunk open and both back doors open. So just like visualize this ridiculousness that's happening

and as I'm doing this I'm pulling the safe out the safe is not gliding anymore because now we're on concrete and we're on grass. It's not gliding any of it. How are you even going to get up into the view? Well, I didn't know yet

but I mean I thought I figured I'd figure something out. I tried to put it on my foot. But okay but before I even get there let me just let you know about the neighbor who almost helped me commit a felony without knowing. He was almost my freaking co-defendant. And as I'm going to my car and I'm like, I'm dragging the safe, I kind of see like somebody moving out my peripheral.

And when I look at it's the freaking neighbor. And I have to look at him now because he's approaching. I can see he's moving closer. I pull out myself when I'm like, Mom, I can't believe you have me doing this shit. I'm home from college. You have me taking the safe to your office. I don't even remember the alarm code. The alarm's going off.

The safe is heavy as shit. Like I'm so pissed off right now. This is ruining my vacation. you know, hoping, like, so he'll hear me and not think, why is this person pulling a safe out of my neighbor's house? Right. So he, I look, we lock eyes and he's like,

sweetheart, you need some help with that? And I'm like, Jesus Christ. Like, no, sir, please go away while I'm robbing your neighbor safe. Like, stay over the hell over there. So he doesn't come. But anyways, what ended up happening was, I couldn't get it in the trunk,

but I was able to wedge it up on my foot, like I stuck my foot up under it. I wedge it on my foot and then I kind of rolled it on my knee and then I kind of just rolled it into the backseat. The backseat is lower than the trunk. Yeah. So I rolled it into my backseat.

For the record, there was nothing of value in it. It was like birth certificates, marriage license, deeds, social security cards, and everything else. I did return the stuff to the people a couple days later. I felt guilty. I did not feel guilty robbing them. I felt guilty back keeping their paperwork, whatever. So I took it back. I put it in their mailbox.

I didn't usually remember homes that I burglarized because there were so many. But these people had to pretend. like nice home and it was memorable so anyways um and also i was like i would target certain areas like maybe i couldn't remember the home but i would remember the area so if i drove around long enough um and it was just crazy matt because this is the thing too like one time i was in a neighborhood and this neighborhood's biggest shit and i was like holy hell you know what this is crazy i got to get out of here there's helicopters flying over there's cops parked on every other street there's got to be like a murder on the loose i like for my safety i need to leave and the people were

looking for me the whole time The alarms have been going off one by one, be, beep, beep, beep, beep on all these streets. And they had apparently been looking for me for like a while, not a couple months. I'm assuming that a string of a couple hundred burglaries in an area within a year, going to make them think, you know what? Right. I think someone's burglarizing the houses. Yeah. So once they, you know, they did all that thinking, all that, you know, genius rocket science thinking, they decided that they were going to really make their response to any burglary in a nice area was going to be.

be like big big presence and I'm in this neighborhood and I'm just like so dense sometimes that I literally thought there was a murder on the loose in this neighborhood or a hostage situation I need to get the fuck out of there quickly because there was a helicopter and there was all the cops so I'm just driving out the neighborhood my hair is blown in the wind I got the windows down because I'm still conscious that like oh shit I need to you know I am burglar in the midst of whatever this guy's doing because it has to be a guy doing something crazy in here um in the midst of what he's doing, I still am burglarizing these homes, so let me not look suspicious. So I roll the windows down. I turn the music up and I'm like, woo-hoo, you know, singing, whatever. And I'm, I'm riding

out the neighborhood. And the whole time they were looking for me. And I didn't even know it. So I got arrested and they told me. And because I was like, because they said to them, they were like, we've had helicopters looking for you and all that. And I was like, that was for me? And they were like, yeah. And I was like, oh, I didn't even know. I feel bad. Yeah. I mean, I should have helped you guys out. So I had no idea. It was that big. But yeah. And then, you know, and like, animals so you know they thought there was like a chicken bandit because i broke into someone's home and as soon as i stepped through the threshold of the window i met with and it's a dog and it's not a fucking doodle and it's not a frenchie okay it's a big ass i don't know what he is it's not a

belgian melinois and it's not like a you know a pit bull but it's something that's mean and doesn't like me and it's growling and so i know like okay i've got to really tread lightly here so I'm like and usually but just so you know I carry some kind of treat like a hot dog a sandwich something I can just toss their way and like get them out the way but I didn't have anything that day and so I was like hey come up puppy let's try and do like a real high voice you know and and I let him to the kitchen and all the people had that I could see was a rotissory chicken so I just pull that thing open and put it on the ground and let him to like a little hallway and put a thing up right there so he couldn't get through He just ate that chicken the whole time

And I was in and out of there So yeah So there was like And then there was a few times when I stepped in And I would step in the living room And all said woo woo And I was just hauled ass Or in a few times when I would break a window

And they had the shatter feature Where if glass broke You know they would The alarm would go off Yeah And so like a few things happened like that here and there But to be honest 98% of the time

It was smooth sailing Most people You know that have an animal Don't turn their motion detectors on most people leave something open like even your front door you know i cannot tell you how many times i would look just through the little glass the glass panes in your went in your front door or like on the side of the door and look at the alarm box that's always next to everybody's front door and see if it was red or green you know like i know it's armed or it's not if it's green i don't

you have to worry about shit i can open everything and so like there's so many things that are indicative of what's going on inside the home that people don't even realize and if they tweaked them it would really help them out and it's just like you're literally giving me a blueprint of what's going on and what I need to be aware of by saying in case of fire save rufus now I know you have a dog I can see in your window if your alarm is said I know your motion detectors aren't on if it is said like all of these things you know and and so um I just always found it really fascinating that people didn't do a few things differently and instead of trying to get you know create the element of surprise they tried to you know

expose all of these things that they have in place to keep their home safe and it really didn't work for them. It worked for me. Right. And it's and and and even aside from that like get to know your neighbors at least like just wave to me. You don't talk to them. Just wave to them so they know who's supposed to be there and who's not because you can't tell me that that guy that offered to help me pull the safe in the car. How like how the fuck do you not know that your neighbor doesn't have a grown college daughter? Right. Like that just seems like it's something you would know even if didn't know them. And it's just bizarre that you would think that a car backed all the way up to their front door through the grass and sidewalk, pulling a safe out while the alarm is going off

in the background with a kid that you've never seen isn't alarming to you. Like, it's weird. Well, I mean, you're a woman too. So people really just, they do not expect, especially if you're like, hey, what's going on? Then they're like, they're expecting either a heavily tattooed white guy or a big black guy with dreads and gold teeth. Yep. That's what they're expecting. Yep. Yep.

Absolutely. A young girl, hey. They're like, hey. They're like, oh, hey, how are you? I'll help you with the same. Right. Which is like another reason I kind of started, you know, talking about all this too was because I thought, well, maybe, you know, I can kind of shift people's perception

a little bit just to at least be aware. Just to like, hey, this can really, you know, they can look different. They don't have to look like that. Where did most people? Did you find a place where? people hid cash? Yeah, they always have it in the bank envelope, in literally the bank envelope, in their room in a drawer or the woman in a purse somewhere in the closet, always. Or a lot of rich people would have it in an office too. Like there would be a lot of it in the office. But

man, rich people always have that emergency stash. And I knew because my mom and her friends always had it too. They're just worried that like the hurricane's going to close the bank down and everyone's going to have to evacuate. So, but yeah, it was mostly always like, in a drawer right there in the room, in the dresser, or in the purse in the closet. Like, very simple. So the other question, you talked about the gold. What about did you, if you found diamonds, did you have, what did you do with diamonds? Did you break those apart, not break them apart, but you can pull them out of the diamond ring,

out of the jewelry, whatever. I actually had the one necklace that got me caught and sent to prison had like five huge diamonds. And I didn't want to melt it because I just knew it was worth something. And I didn't know if it was worth more like intact or if I took the diamonds out and like the gold wasn't much. But I knew the diamonds were like so, so now. They were so freaking huge. But I wasn't a stones person. I didn't know anything about stones.

I didn't deal in stones. So I'd never did anything with them. And what I would do is I would pop the stones out. And a lot of the time I would pay the guy that I was using his machine. A lot of the times I would pay him in the stones. I was probably paying him way over and, but like I was so. focused on my crime and what I was doing and just what I was doing and I didn't really want to delve into like other areas of criminal stuff. You're not trying to get rich. You're trying to get enough

for. Yeah. So he got he got like probably a good 90% of all the stones. I mean some stuff I was like oh this is fake and threw it out. God only knows I don't even think about it. I probably threw with him. They ever have a conversation with him. No I never saw him. I actually got caught because yeah they had a conversation with him. They were doing surveillance on his shop because he was doing other shady things. No. I don't know what. I can't believe it.

Like I thought really thought he was a straight-laced guy. Rinting the machine. Renting me the machine and running this legit business. But apparently he was doing other shady dealings. And they were doing surveillance on his shop. And who do they see coming and going all the time? Me in my car with my license registered to me with my tag, not the fake one. And then what do they see on this girl's record?

Burglaries, you know, more burglaries and this and that and whatever. And so they followed me a little bit. they never caught me doing anything but because I was on probation and they had the right to search me or my person or my property at any time for no reason at all. They ended up, they ended up arresting him and they talked to him and he told him what he knew, which was very minimal. Her name's Jennifer. He didn't even know my last name. She comes in. She melts gold down. He told him enough to make him suspicious. She melts a lot of gold. She pays me to use the refinery. She goes about her business. That's it. That's how they ended up in my house. Actually, they ended up my baby daddy's house,

but um i said baby daddy um they ended up at his house and they raided it and they found that the one necklace with the five big diamonds and um i had found out i was pregnant a week earlier um with my first and only child his first and only child and he was super excited and um so i found out that tuesday we went to the doctor and found out officially i found out the week before but that friday they raided the house and i never he and he didn't know so like he answers the door And then he gets me and says that the lady's out there to see you with the police fest. And he has no idea that I've ever been a criminal. He doesn't even know you're on probation?

He doesn't know I'm on probation, Matt. He doesn't know. He thinks I'm in town for a change of pace and going to this community college because I was overwhelmed with the big university and like he knows nothing. All right. She knows I'm the daughter of two doctors and I'm just, I just need to slow down a little bit. I was getting a little too rowdy. So now I walk through the door.

the lady says don't make any sudden movements and the police fly from the trees the bushes the sides of the street the everywhere and at this point he's already gone back to the room and when he tells the story he said he was in the shower he had just hopped in the shower real quick and the cop came in was like get out the shower because they they like down hard believed he had to have something to do with it like they there was no way that they thought he was just an innocent bystander so he thought it was a mistaken identity he thought it was case of mistaken identity. And he said that the moment that he looked at me and they said to him, can we search your

house because it's in your name, it's not in her, so we can't search a house. And he said, yeah. And I said, don't let him search your house. They don't have a warrant. He was like. Oh, damn. What did you get me into? What normal person says that?

He looks at him and he goes, do you have a warrant? And they were like, no. And he was like, he can't search my house. And he was so devastated. and I was like, and then the person was like, well, we'll lock your house up, make you go out, and still get a warrant, it'll take like 12 hours or something ridiculous, whatever. But anyways, they were, they lightly searched a little bit and just like looked around. And they were on their way out.

However, they looked through the windows on the garage and saw my car that's registered to me in the garage. So they turned their asses back around and search my car, which is where they found the fake license plates and the necklace, the one necklace. So they took me away for that. I called him, Kyle, it's baby daddy, called Kyle from booking and I was like, listen, I don't know what I'm going to get, but it's not going to be good. And I have a lot of stuff going on. I don't expect you to ride this out with me. However, all I ask is that when our child is born, because obviously I'm in custody now,

so babies being born, you please afford my family the opportunity to have a relationship with him and whatever. And he was like, uh-uh, I'm not, I'm sticking by you, but you're like, you're like, like the most exciting thing that's ever happened to me. This is great. I've told all my friends, the cop we're here. He's like, you're the coolest. Yeah, he's like, uh-uh, no, no.

Like, I've waited like 25 years to find someone this exciting. I'm not going to give up now. And I was like, okay, all right. So, but to be, to be fair, he, he brought our son to see me every Sunday for 10 years to the prison. I had my son incarcerated. He took him home. He raised him. He brought him to see me every Sunday.

for 10 years never got remarried never had any more kids never got another girlfriend and when i got out he moved to jacksonville with our son because i had i was going back there and you know i was on probation and um he got a condo in the same neighborhood that i got a condo in and we co-parent and he did not his expectation of like anything after was just first like let's co-parent because you've missed a lot of years so let's um and guys always get so pissed at this are like you bitch you use them for 10 years and then you I had to stop myself from saying you're a horrible person.

But I said don't say it. She may leave. No. If you go and look at any video that has any like snippet of him and what he's done, everything is like you're just the biggest piece of shit in life.

However, he responds to these things all the time. And he responds that. Like, no, not in the comments, but like in life. when people ask him, or like, and he responds better than I do.

And a lot of the reason that, you know, we're okay right now is because of the way he responds. And so this is what he always says. He's like, I didn't bring our son. First of all, they lived in the same town at the prison. That's why I stayed in the maximum security prison and didn't go to like a better, you know, prison or one with AC or whatever because they lived like 10 minutes away. So him coming every Sunday was like easier logistically speaking. But, I mean, for 10 years, that's still an incredible act.

So, but he's like, I didn't bring our son because I was expecting like a reward by way of us, you know, like I did it for my son. My son, I didn't want him to grow up and ever say, why did you not let me meet my mom? She wasn't a horrible person. Like he knew me in a different way than just a criminal. And he believed in the person that I was and the good in me and the ability to like come out of this. And so he didn't want my son to see me after prison and be 12, 15 years old and be like, She's not, you know, this horrible criminal. Why didn't you let me meet her or whatever and have anything, you know?

Right. So he's like, I brought him not for her and not for me for our kid. And so he's like, um. That got me fucked up. I'm almost in tears. Yeah. I know I saw it. But I cry very easy.

That doesn't mean. I cry very easily. No, but. I'm kind of a pussy. No, it's okay though because it actually is a very moving thing. Yeah. No, that's very. And it was and he's, he was like, um,

He says, you know, so he did it for him. And he was like, my son and his mom, like, that's his only child. So, and he loves him so much. He's such a great dad. And he's like, my child didn't have that woman, that nurturing, you know, thing, that figure in his life. I mean, he had a grandmas, but he didn't have that mom for like almost nine years. So I don't, the years after she gets out, right? like relationships most marriages i mean this this is what he says he's like most it's like

jennifer most marriages don't last 10 years okay and when you're in the same household so to think that a relationship can sustain being physically apart for 10 years and still be the same as crazy now could you you know re-ignite this by like starting over not like starting over from scratch and like dating but like getting to know each other because you're a different person when you're 27 than when you're 40 because i when we started dating he was 25 i was 27 and so So now I'm getting out and I'm like 30, I'm like 36. And so like we're different people. 30 to 40s.

You're totally different. Plus I met him. I was like, you know, I was high and shit like that. We were having fun. Life was great. So he's like, you know, you Dominic did not have you for all these beginning years. And he's only going to be a kid for like a couple more years. When he's 15, 16, he's not going to be looking for us.

Now we're checking for us. So right now that is a time you need to invest in him. and let him invest in you and bond because if you have a relationship, whether it's with me or somebody else, you have to nurture that. Like, for anything to grow, you have to feed it, whether it's a plant or a relationship. So to have this relationship, like, we have a bond because we've been through something incredible and he stayed by me, but like, you're still going to have to feed it romantically for it to keep going.

So he's like, you need to put that into our son because he lacked that. And he did. He lacked that woman, that femininity, that he liked that. lacked all of that. So pour that into him for the next couple years. And then, like, I'm here and we're here and we'll do whatever we need to do and whatever. And I haven't been with anybody since I've been out either. So it's not like I, like, ditched him and went and dated whomever. The Russians dead. He got murdered in a hotel. He got set up and murdered. So he's gone. Not that it would have mattered because he was the exact same person when I left as when I came back.

Oh, you met him again? He came back to the United States. So he came back to the United States about a year and a half before I got out of prison and one day I was driving down the road and I saw him like it was just the most fluke thing like we live in the same area well his parents in him their house is in the same you know Jacksonville's big it's the biggest city square miles wise but it's like there's little area so um he was in this area I saw a Mercedes going past me and I just like knew it was him because I saw but like I saw his profile but I wasn't going to try to stop him or anything and then I ended up running into him at a gas station and he ended up contacting me on Facebook

and that was the thing that you heard you know like when he's like hey call me sometime like text me sometime whatever I did meet up with him twice and talk to him very briefly in like a parking lot and and you know it just wasn't there like it was like 10 years has done nothing to change you

fleeing the country for almost 10 years you has done nothing to change you almost getting killed multiple times has done nothing to change like you're still him and that was fine when i was 20 and it was exciting but now i have my frame of reference is prison yeah and not being with my first and only child for its whole beginning years so now my frame of reference is like holy shit if i lose and fuck up i'm losing so much more than just me going away because i don't have anything to lose back then right um except my future which you can't really put that into you know what i mean you don't know

what that is you don't know what that is right right you don't get mid 20 right so um so i was just like kind of done with it and then he got murdered he got set up and he got murdered in a hotel um that was that but do you know what happened because i don't know if you realize that that's not a normal thing um you say it like it's you know and you know you know how it is no not really well what what do you know what happened any specifics or do yeah i know i do um you know and you're no you're right it's not a normal thing but i just you know in his line of life his lifestyle i mean it's like um so yeah he actually some him in another guy were feuding about drugs um i don't know the specifics of that but i guess the guy and him were like

actually just having a verbal argument and i guess gia stood up and this came from like people that were there and people that we mutually know they said that he stood up and he basically like like bitch slapped the guy and then like made him gia made the guy give him all his shit was like give me all your shit out of your pockets right now like you want to complain about this or that like give me all shit and it wasn't a lot it was just like whatever he had on him and then he sat and then the guy gave it to him and ran to the bathroom and like walked himself in the bathroom so he was like super embarrassed and then Gia sat on the guy's couch it was like at the guy's house and then um started giving out whatever the guy had in his pockets like his money or his little bit of drugs or like started just

giving it to everybody in the room and they were like laughing at him so the guy was like his he was embarrassed and his pride he just felt like he got punked or whatever so he put out um he put out a like a bounty or whatever for 10 grand, 8 grand, something around there, um, for somebody to shoot him. And, uh, somebody did. They ended up calling him to a, this abandoned hotel. And I guess somebody was in a closet with the camera, which is how they know like all these details, like filming it so they could get their money. And he walked in, he walked in and then they said something, they did some kind of interaction. It was like under the guise of like they were going to do some drug deal and then when he turned around to leave they shot him in the back a couple

times and he fell and he died so whoa yeah um this girl lindsay um we have a mutual friend named lindsay lindsay linds dated his brother um arman and that family's cursed man armand died of cancer while i was in prison the brother um but lindsay is my friend on facebook and she ended up messaging me and being like hey did you hear that this happened happened today and I was like no and then she kind of she gave me all the details on it and stuff and like I followed it a little bit on the news and stuff like that but I at a point I just like let it go and like what you know like what for so um it was sad that like it was sad that you know I got out and he was still the same person and then my son's father is like this amazing guy is like

there's two totally different guys and how if I would have still been wrapped up in that Russian you know, and all of that, I could have been in that hotel with them. Like, it's just crazy how 10 years can change somebody so much and change somebody so little at the same time and how you can meet people that are so vastly different. And everybody that you come across impacts you and leaves their imprint in some way or another. And it's like your life could literally take a turn and the entire trajectory could be changed for the worse or for the better just by meeting one person and having that one influence and making that one decision to overlook this or to ride in the car with that and that's how a lot of people get hemmed up and things happen and it snowballs and so yeah so then

I got out and I went to prison for 10 years and I got out February 2020 and right before COVID and I got out and then COVID hit three weeks later God what a fucking I was like you know I To be honest, I was, I mean, I just got out of prison, so I was like, whatever. Yeah, everybody's complaining about lockdown. Yeah, I'm like, this is nothing. This is great. I can go to public. So I got out and I immediately, before COVID, shut everything down, I got a job cleaning

toilets at a gym, which was very, very humbling experience. I've cleaned some gym toilets myself. Yeah, I mean, you got to start, you know what I'm saying, you got to start. And so I did that. Then I got a job as a receptionist and a tanning badge. So whatever I could because I knew like I needed to stay. going and stay you know productive and so i did whatever i could but then everything shut down and i was like damn i got you know i have to start finding ways to make money and then i like i found

social media because i said i wasn't going to get on social media because i didn't want to feel less than or like i had to keep up with joneses or whomever because i see the everyone's highlight real you know and i can't even get my nails done this time because i'm cleaning toilets like and i'm living in a hotel too by the way um my mom paid a hotel for six months for me because she was like my family pretty much cut me off um besides my mom But they, my mom was like, I will pay for a decent hotel for you, like an extended stay with the kitchenettes and everything for six months. And I will help you and, you know, drive you places and whatever. But what you do from there, that's, I'm not giving you everything anymore. I'm not. So I did that. But I was all right. I managed to take off and be okay. But I was looking at. It's amazing how with the most minimal, what people out here consider the most minimal lifestyle. Yeah. you get out of prison you're like fuck yeah I got myself a fucking

do you know I got myself I got myself somebody's spare room I got a piece of shit car that starts you know what I clean that hotel room I didn't have the room service I told them do not come for the whole all the months I was going to be there

I was there like five months I told him do not come clean I got myself a vacuum from the goodwill I got myself little candles I had my own comforter I had stuff my mom gave me I decorated I treated that hotel room like it was my home, my multi-million dollar home,

because I was grateful. You're going to make me start crying because I see your eyes water. And Jesus Christ, Lord, I mercy. But yeah, I know I was really grateful for the small beginnings because when you are coming from somewhere where you can't even, you know, you can't even keep this water bottle because it's contraband because the water's gone and now I put coffee in it and they're going to throw it away. It's like, fuck, man.

I, yeah, I decorated that room and I vacuumed it and I cleaned it and I made it like it was my own space and I got a shit car and I loved it because it got me everywhere and I cleaned the toilets like it was the best thing ever because I knew I was going to get a paycheck at the end and no one was going to say, hey, you're going to prison because you have 20 grand that's, you know, stolen. Right. So it was and I bonded with my son and I, you know, I just life, life started to take off. I did have a little bit of money saved from prison that. I was going to invest in something I didn't know what it was. It wasn't even 10 grand. It was like eight, nine grand. I took a little bit of it to buy a car. So now that left me with like four grand. So I took it and I put it with my son's father and we got a bounce house business. I mean, most of the money's his. But I put in my little bit so I could get something back. And so we have a bounce house business now and it's really nice. It's like commercial. It's not like a little like a dinky two man, you know, two bounce houses. We have 11 and they're really,

They're really nice, and they're the big combos. And we're in Florida, so it's busy all the time. I know they had one over here the other day. They drove us fucking crazy for, what, two days straight? Yeah. The little six-year-old kids are, it's 11 o'clock at night, for God's sakes. We can hear. And then they loved it so much, they went and they got a trampoline.

So now at 4 o'clock every day when they get home, it's screaming. Now they're jumping nonstop. Nonstop. And it all started with the bouncy houses. are a gateway to the trampoline. To this, to what you have going on. Can I ask you a question? I'm sorry.

Yeah. What is this? So this is just nothing. It's, I got it when I was 18 and it says, Gemini, deuce, deuce, because I had no idea what I was going to get tattooed on my arm and I wanted to be cool with an arm tattoo. So what I get my birthday. Like, I guess I forget, May 22nd, Gemini 2, too, you know? How ridiculous. I know what's happening.

I get it. Like, how can you possibly, but I thought it was so cool when I was 18. I was like, man, that writing is fire. Look at that diamond. Look at that diamond right there. Like, you doesn't want to die. I'm a diamond girl. Yeah.

Let you know, I'm shot on it. But yeah, so that's that. These are cover-ups. I got some prison tattoos because I was like, fuck it. I'm going to go into prison for 10 years. I'm thug. Y'all aren't going to fuck with me.

I'm about to fight everybody. Oh, my God. So I got like some prison tattoos, but you can't see them now. They're all covered up. The cover-up is good because you don't, you can't tell. Yeah, I would never, ever get tattoos. two's on my arms now again i go to my son's very private very rich very catholic school that i um that he goes to and um i meet people and i wear long sleeves all the time and as soon as they

get a glimpse of my hand they're like oh what what was your son's name oh he's in what and i'm like bitch like you know god judgmentalized people man but anyways so yeah so that's like kind of what's going on now i have um my condo with my son and And his dad picks him up every day. His dad is with him right now. His dad's picking up from school today. They're going back to the condo. Like, we are very close, very good friends.

We co-parent great. I have a good relationship with my mom. I don't see any of the people that I ever knew back in the day. And, you know, life is just pretty good. So can I ask a question? You said you do TikTok. Yes. So here's the way you ended up here is because Jess had done a video on Ian Bix.

show. And so although she doesn't care about views and doesn't care how it looks and doesn't do anything about that, she does check it every two days. So she checked and she's like, Ian Bick just had another girl. Because Ian Bick said, girls don't do well. He's like, I do these videos. They have great stories. They come in. He's like, and then I don't know why the videos don't do well. And I've kind of had that where I've had some. I can feel, I can see how that might be. I don't get, I don't know why. Because I've, you know, some of them have great stories, but I guess also because like 92% of the people that watch. Yeah. To me, if 90% of the people watching my channel are male, I would think a woman, a video from a girl would do well.

It's actually the opposite. Yeah, I don't think they're, it's funny because most of my people are women. Yeah. They're like so intrigued by it. And that's, yeah, that's really, that's the Jessica Kent thing, right? Oh, God. That whole story is just. so ridiculous I can't even listen I have a um okay I can't say the name because this will be

out before but May 17th I'm flying to a certain state to do some filming with a certain company that has a YouTube channel that the girl that you just said has been has said she works with a lot um I don't know how is they don't pay like whatever anyways uh I was just saying god I hope she's not there and I hope she's not part of this new project because I don't think I can literally sit across from you and have a conversation because it's a group and it's my best friends going as well. So I don't think either of us could sit in a room

knowing that I've done, I did 9.2 years of my time. I went in in 2011. I got out in 2020. And so like I did, because in Florida it's 85%. Yeah. I did the majority of my 10-year sentence. And I don't think I could, and my best friend did 27 years to the door.

So. That's the girl that just came in. Yeah. So I don't think on two sentences. One was a 25 and she did 20 and then the other one was a seven to the door. She wasn't eligible for getting time. So she did 27 years with a six-month break in between. It was so bad.

But she went into as a juvenile too. But yeah, so I just don't think I could sit there and be like and take you seriously with these stories. That by the way, when I first got out and I ran across one of her videos randomly, I was like, this sounds so weird. This isn't what my prison experience was like at all. We don't check paperwork and we don't beat up chomos. And we don't, you know what, they fight about girlfriends. That's it.

They fight about girlfriends. You look to my girlfriend, you talk to my girlfriend, my girlfriend's sliding with you, maybe some stolen property, maybe some snitching, but that's it. Snitching stolen property or girlfriends, that's it, and mainly girlfriends. And I'm like, and then you know what happens if you find out someone's a show more or something like that? Someone goes and gets on the phone and calls her people and says, hey, look this up for me. And then they verify it. And then y'all go talk about it.

And then that's it. And then that's it. And then everybody keeps going about their life. Nobody says you can't watch TV. You can't watch TV in the TV room. No. So I'm like, what are, like, what is she talking? And then she was talking about paperwork checks and stuff.

I don't even have girls know where their paperwork is. I don't remember anyone ever pulling it out and saying, yeah, I'm verifying me or whatever. So, by the way, this is, everything you're saying is exactly what Jess says, you know. They do. That's why I, she had me with her stories. I'm not going to lie to you. this creator had me questioning if my and i was actually and i was at lull which is the maximum security female state prison in florida there's only like lull godston homestead work camp there's only like four maybe i'm forgetting one um prisons female prisons state prisons in florida and that is the one with death row

and that is the one that's the maximum security and where all the real prolific Eileen Warnos and everybody was and I'm just like questioning damn was that prison just really like pussy compared to all the other ones that she was at like Arkansas must be real hard man

because dang I was where I was where all everyone you see on snapped or killer couples for the past five years was in there with me and I literally never saw any of this It was so bizarre. So, yeah. So listen, I have another question.

Yes. So you said you got on, you got on what TikTok? Yes. And you started doing TikTok. So why did you do? Did you just think, I mean, did you think, hey, this will be something? Or did you think, no, fuck it on board. I saw people saying, make $10,000 a month.

And you thought. With affiliate marketing. And I said, what? And then I saw people say, say, make $10,000 a month by adding by like something else. And it was all video related. like affiliate marketing, digital marketing, this, that. And I was like, holy shit, I'm about to be a millionaire. I could make 10 grand a month, every month from all these six different.

Holy shit, it's on. And COVID was here. So I, you know, I had nothing but my phone in time. So I was like, okay. And then I realized, like, you know, they just want to sell me a course. And I bought them. I mean, I bought all the courses. I bought all 60 of them.

So they got my money for sure. They're probably rich. They're their millionaires now. But yeah, they got all my money for sure. but yeah so after that so I started making videos and all of it was like skin care and makeup related because I was trying to be you know make my 10 grand a month with affiliate marketing right and when I finally was like this is bullshit I'm getting 75 views and nobody gives a shit and I have a filter on so they can't even see what my skin care and makeup is actually doing

I was like eh um and I so I started talking about prison a little bit about prison little sprinkles of prison but I was very ashamed so um last November I only just told my story for the first time last November, this past November, a couple months ago, told my story. Like, if you go back on my TikTok, you'll see that that's the first time you ever hear me talk about me. And it's because my neighbor kept getting her fucking packages stolen. And she doesn't know I'm a cat burglar or an ex-cat burglar. And I said, Miss Peggy, why don't you get a ring cam?

Because they're stealing your packages because there's no threat here. Get a ring cam. She's like, I don't want to get a ring cam. They're not going to do anything. They're going to see it and still steal it. I'm like, yeah, maybe like once, but they're not going to keep coming back. I promise you. And I don't want to say, hey, I'm an ex-cat burglar, and I'm telling you, and it will deter them.

So, anyways, I realized in that moment, Ms. Peggy got the camera, got a ring, a little cheap $40 camera, and they stopped stealing her packages. And I was like, holy shit, maybe there's some value in telling people, hey, do these couple things, you know, and like, it'll help tremendously. and then as I started telling my story people were like well why did you know why did you go what's your story because I started talking first about just like prison like five prison rules or five prison this or three things to not do in prison then I started saying tips of things that would help homeowners and then people were like well how do you know what did you do why were you in prison and then I started telling my story and then that you know people were like oh my god you know so you don't have to come from a broken home or a bad background or whatever and so then there was I thought well hell

maybe there's value in that maybe there's value in showing like hey you can crime and addiction do not discriminate and then you know now I've been out four years and people are like man how did you come out okay and I'm like I started cleaning toilets living in a hotel very humble and very grateful and with not a lot of help and not a lot of money and then people are like for real and I was like yeah and I stayed off social media that was a big factor because I don't want to compare what other people had and their highlight real to my very basic life that I was super proud of in my hotel room I was very happy and proud of it. And I didn't want to look at you and all your fancy name brand stuff with your nice cars and your home, aesthetically pleasing home and be like, damn, my hotel room

doesn't look as good anymore. I did not even start a social media account until I'd been out for two years. And I didn't start talking about my story until this past November. So anyway, so when I started telling people that, they were like, oh man, man, you know, my brother's about to get out. My dad's about to get out. I'm going to tell them this. And I was like, well, maybe there's some value in that. So I was like, okay, maybe there's just value in this whole story. Let me just start telling people and they'll pick out whatever works for them and scarred the rest and then and then some people thought I was funny so then you know I just that's it entertaining value education encouragement hope whatever you get from it you know you get it and so yeah no

here we are yes I gave birth to my first and only child while I was in jail and thankfully I was in jail not in prison because in prison you're already convicted and you're found guilty but in jail you're still fighting your case so at that point they have to actually contact your emergency contact if you have an emergency during delivery, which I did. My emergency was I had to be induced. So they called my mom and they were like, hey, you know, this is what's going on. She's having an emergency. And long story short, my mom was able to actually come to the hospital and my son's father. But I was handcuffed to the bed. I was shackled to the bed. It changed. It alternated depending on what was going on. Like while I was pushing, I was handcuffed.

so you know like this um but while i wasn't pushing i was shackled um and i was there for five days thank god by the way it's unheard of to be there for five days it's usually 24 hours vaginal delivery 48 hours cesarean um my mom was like professional courtesy you know my mom was like hey she's going to go to prison for a while we don't know how long yet but can she like breastfeed her son can she bond with him a little bit so they extended a little professional courtesy and allowed her to um allowed me to stay for a couple days longer and just extend things and yeah i had him in the hospital it was i had him in the hospital while i was locked up with let me tell you the weirdest part the weirdest part of having my son while i was in jail was most women that have a baby are familiar

with their doctor their obi gyn with the hospital they usually do a tour first you know their their husbands in the room their moms in the room whomever i had a guard a jail guard a doctor i'd never seen nurses I didn't know in a hospital I'd never been to and I was terrified I was going to poop while I was pushing so it was a bad situation right and it all happened by the way all everything I just named happened all strangers and then when they gave and I pooped and then when they gave they my son was out and the doctor felt odd I could tell it was very awkward he was like who's going to cut the umbilical cord and then he called a nurse's name he was like nancy cut the and I was like uh-uh I'll cut it give him to me and then so I he was like you sure and I was

like yeah so he put him in my arms we had like a skin to skin and I cut the umbilic where I was like well just me and you guy like because it was just we were the only ones in there that knew each other you know what I mean everybody else was a stranger so my mom and his dad made it but they didn't make it yet they made it probably about an hour 45 minutes to an hour so after I had him because they had to my mom the hospital was shans which is not right in Ocala and my mom's in Jacksonville so my mom was driving about an hour and 45 minutes and And my son's father was driving like about 45 minutes. And they took your son home?

Yeah. After the fifth day, my, his dad, my son's father, he took him home and he raised him. Okay. And then brought him to see me every weekend for almost 10 years, every Sunday. Don't get teary eyed on me. You didn't get me all fucked up. Anyway, okay. So.

He said this because the whole time he was locked up, his mother, which was how old baby at the time? Um, from 70s to 80s. Okay. She, every other weekend, but she showed up every other weekend for 13 years. So. Yeah,

it's a thing. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a load, man. They do it. They love.

I mean, there's nothing like a mother's love. And, but, you know, for someone to do it for their child, it's such a different, like,

dynamic because, you know, he's doing it for him, which is, he thinks that this criminal that has this sentence that I lied about all my life to him, like the whole life we had,

I've lied about. my past and yet you think I'm good enough of a person to be doing this every weekend for almost 10 years is an incredible act of kindness and it's like I will forever be grateful because that's I don't know that I know anybody else that would do have done that right like is there uh I guess your biggest lick like the house that you made the most money yeah okay so my biggest lick my biggest hit um it's actually kind of funny there's a girl on tic talk right now and she said story time of when jen james robbed my parents house and stole over a hundred thousand dollars um so the biggest lick that i've gotten uh was about 70 thousand dollars in jewelry and cash there was like about 30 grand

in cash or so the rest was in jewelry however um you know when i see a story like hers i'm like well damn now i'm not saying that i didn't steal a hundred thousand dollars from her home right or from her parents home by the way i reached out to her and we made friends crazy crazy enough her mom forgave me thank god they didn't have to do that really kind people by the way it made me made me feel even shittier than you know when i saw the video rather have them paid me oh right so kind daughter so kind mother so kind ridiculous um great people but uh yeah she said i had i stole over a hundred thousand dollars from her home but tangibly like me saying hey this is what i got this is what i know i got in my pocket about 70 grand from one house yeah yeah i was going to say um i my mom

had a friend that did jewelry she got robbed and they stole like half a million dollars in diamonds and the guy that got caught, the way they caught the guy was he was in a bar selling like two diamonds that are worth $5,000, $500,000, $500, $200,000, $50, $20. Jesus, where was I that day? I mean, just, and that's how they called him because he had come in, the bartender finally said, you know, I'm going to call the cops. This is the fourth time this week. This guy's coming in selling diamonds for $50.

Like something's wrong. Cops show up. They grab him. The whole thing unravels. He was the guy that robbed him. The bartender would have just bought them all. Almost no money left. That's ridiculous.

That's a junkie stunt, you know? Yeah. Big junkie stunt. What are some things that an everyday person can do to protect their house on the burglary? So, in my opinion as being an ex-cat burglar, I would say that there is like a few things that homeowners can do that would absolutely help them protect their home better. One of them being activate the freaking sensors or the feature in your alarm system that if you, you break glass, it goes off automatically. I know some people complain that like if a dog barks it goes off or whatever, just do it.

It's so, it will help so much. Do not post signs and pickets and things in your front yard saying you have an alarm system and what kind. It's not hard to figure out how to do things now. There's YouTube, how to disarm an ADT security system, how to bypass an ADT security system, how to, you know, whatever, a ring.com. Like, don't advertise what you have going on. You're giving them information in a blueprint to your home.

Try to keep your curtains and your blind. closed when you're not there. People can look in and get information about where's the master bedroom, where's the office, where's a kid's room, you know, you don't know what they're there for. Close your freaking windows and blinds. If you have a front door and it's pretty and you want little like cutouts and stained glass and whatever, just try to get ones where you can't see too much of what's going on inside. Do not advertise that you have animals. If you do have animals, you need to, you can turn all the motion sensors off, okay? But then close your bedroom door and or your office door and or your kids door

at the very least your bedroom door because every burglar is going to go there and turn on the motion sensor in that one zone in your bedroom because when the burglar goes in there if they do then it will go off automatically your dog doesn't have to go in that one room like at least that one room close a door and turn the sensor on

and just be conscientious of your neighbors like say hey you don't have to become best friends with them but just say hi sometimes know who's supposed to be in your neighborhood if something feels weird it probably is weird and get yourself a freaking ring cam because a ring cam were 100% deter people much more than you think police don't go after a burglar is based on a picture yes true enough but if they see a ring cam and it's motion activated and you can even turn on like the little uh message that's just like automated like hey how can we help you do that do all that ring cams are like 50 bucks on

amazon just get one i would start out with those few things and tell people do that just do those things and it'll it'll help tremendously post us call what you got away Okay. So, no, I haven't told this story. One of the closest calls where I didn't get caught, you'd think would be when the helicopters were flying over me and the police cars were parked on every other street, but it was not. It was actually when I was inside of a home and I would make provisions so that homeowners would, they would make noise. Like I would, you know, lock certain doors. I would think I'd hear beep, beep or something if they come in. That way, if I'm way off in a room I would hear them and I could get out. But this one particular day, I did not,

I didn't hear anything. I don't know what the hell happened. All of a sudden I heard a teenage male voice and a mom and groceries and wrestling. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? So I come out of the master bedroom and I'm in a long hallway. And at the end of the long hallway, to the left is the kitchen where I hear the people. And to the right is the garage door. About five feet in front of that is the front door to the right. But these people don't even know their home yet so I have to get down this long hallway to the front door to get out and then I have to open the front to unlock it open it let it go beep beep and then run to my car which by the way my car is in their driveway so what the hell are they thinking that there's a strange car in the driveway for

I don't know what they're thinking but anyways I start walking down the hall and all of a sudden the mom sees the broken glass and she's like whatever starts yelling and saying come here to her teenage son and as I'm walking down this hall she's walking on one side of this column that's lining the hallways. There's columns lining the hallway. And I'm rolling around the other side of the column. She's rolling on one side walking. I'm on the other side.

And finally, I make it past her. Like, I'm passing her like this. She's passing me like this. I dart to the front door. I open it. I start running to my car. She's coming behind me. By the time I'm like to the end of the sidewalk area,

she's at the front door yelling, hey, stop. I'm calling the police. Like, man, that's not what's going to get me to stop. Man, sorry. Anyways, so I jump in. my car and I haul you know I haul us but and I get out of there but that was a really close call because we were literally within inches of each other each on one side of a set of columns and you know

I was rolling like a ninja like this I mean yeah that's it I would want to go into but I know we don't have time for like 10 years in prison I'm sure there's a whole not oh yeah there's a whole another podcast on 10 year yeah that would be like a whole other story yeah because yeah that that could be a part too because I'm telling you there's a lot of stuff yeah that's all going Like that starts a whole other thing, just how Sharnese and I met. I was on my way to solitary confinement and she went and jammed her foot in the door and was like, Sarge, hold on, don't take her. She's not a heathen.

Just hold on. Give me a chance with her. And that's how we started our friendship. Yeah, I think we saved all that for a part. Hey, I appreciate you guys watching. Do me a favor. Hit the subscribe, hit the bell so you can, hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this.

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