Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Catching Predators on Social Media | Alex Rosen

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

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confessed to so many victims. He's currently serving three and a half years in Oregon. Hey, this is Matt Cox. And I am here with Alex Rosen and he is very much like a kind of like he he runs a channel on Rumble that is very similar to the show that Chris Hanson used to do which is you know which was a hugely popular and it's basically he's exposing guys or people I guess in general that do inappropriate things. or attempt or say listen but just watch the video it'll be all right it's worth watching so i had a but i had a guy who mentioned in the comment section hey because people will watch this don't say well this isn't his tip although this still crime related it's crime related

definitely right um but a guy said hey uh you have to check out this guy and he gave me your name and your channel and said you have to check him out he's in florida right now and i was like like um okay you know and i i didn't like i didn't know who you who you were he explained who you were what you did so i screenshot it i sent it to my booking manager and like it was either the same day or the next day he was i got the guy i talked to him he's in florida he can be there either today or tomorrow and i was like like wow and then we talked and then that was yesterday and then you know you're here today and i actually moved some stuff around and um so yeah it's interesting too because even still even then i was like like what's i don't understand like who is this

so he sent me the video and i watched the video of the um rental truck video and um the guy had driven what several states over yeah i drove from ohio all the way into pennsylvania it was only like an hour but like crossing state lines renting a van to do it right that's pretty pretty insane to meet to meet i mean can i say it was basically to meet uh like a 13-year-old and a nine to meet them to um anyway to to to see what happened so he but the way you like you know i i've seen these kinds of videos and the guys get out and they're super aggressive and they're just and they're they're they're super condescending like like a hanson would go in and as soon as he walked in the room he was so condescending he shut the guys shut down right away but you you like

walked up said all the appropriate things moot said hey let's go ahead and talk outside You were so non-judgmental that that guy just started just spewing out everything. And I noticed after a while he kind of started backpedaling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this isn't, like, I'm saying the wrong things here. And but by then it was way too late. And, I mean, it was just, you know, I even mentioned to Conner, I said, I hope this guy has a sense of humor about this.

It's not that it's a funny subject because people get nuts over it, but it's just the absurdity that these guys and the lengths that they go to. And it's just they're so oblivious to what's happening, what they're doing, that it's wrong. Yeah, it's insane. So how did you get into this? I'm sorry. So basically, I started doing this at 19 years old. I'm 22 years old now.

I know you see the hairline and everything, but you got to understand dealing with these people for three years, seeing all these, you know, pictures sent online that I'm not going to say here because, you know, I care about your channel and stuff like that. But, you know, seeing all of that stuff, I mean, then having a bald dad, you know, it makes me look way older at 22, you know what I mean. But so anyway, I've always wanted to be a police officer. I'm from Houston, Texas. I still live there, sadly. And, you know, so I was playing college football my freshman year at Texas Southern University. And we have three weeks off for summer. Like, you know, we just finished like spring ball.

So we have like three weeks off. And, you know, I was going to bed like at 10 p.m. every single night, waking up at like five to go do the morning workouts and whatnot. And, you know, so I just break all of that for the three weeks of summer. I'm like, oh, finally, I'm going to eat some ice cream now. I'm going to, you know, that I'm still doing it sadly now. But like, you know, just break this, go to sleep at 6 a.m. So I got into like these videos.

and, you know, I was like, this looks really fun to do. This is interesting. I'm like, I got nothing else to do. Like, because, you know, I see the hands in, see all this. I'm like, there's no way. There's so many people going to do it. I'm like, I can't even conceive, like, even, you know, I was at the time 19 years old. I'm like, okay, I can't even go meet like a 15, 14, 16 year old.

You know what I mean? Like, I can't even comprehend this. But, you know, so I was like, let's see how fast this actually happened. So I just throw up a picture on Grindr. It's a gay dating app. And within 30 minutes, somebody wanted to go meet who they thought was a 15-year-old boy. I was like, no way this is this common. And just those three weeks, I just kept doing it over and over and over again. And it was so easy to get these people. And, you know, it was very

fun at first. I always wanted to get the bad guys, and I couldn't be a cop yet. I think I was just going to do two years of college and go be a police officer, but, you know, it wasn't set in stone yet. And, you know, it just kind of led to where we are now. Like, it started to get so bad, like, you know, there's one catch that's on Rumble now, where we confronted the this guy working at an ice cream shop. And his coworkers were defending him. And I'm like, okay, this is a serious issue. And that's kind of what turned on the passion switch.

It was like maybe the 10th catch. And then from there, you know, there was a time like in 2020, I'm like, okay, we're going after people, going after 15, 14 year olds. Let's see how deep this really goes. And now the past trip that we just did, we caught two people that were into infants and dogs and they were both arrested. It's a very deep rabbit hole with these people. So you contact the authorities.

Like when you're on your way to meet them, you guys call the authority to say, look, this is what's going on. We need an officer. Or do you do it like as you're talking to these guys and you're wrapping up? Do you guys then call or like how does that work? It's kind of a combination. So for example, the guy that was into the guy that was into infants and dogs in Arizona, we called the cops midway through because typically what I like to do is, you know, we have the messages, always set in stone. then we have hopefully which happens a lot them confessing on camera to what they want to do voluntarily like we don't say do this or else I'm going to do this and um you know so we have all

that then I tell one of the people go order the fried pickles and fried pickles is code word for um I knew something was up I knew it when I saw that cops I don't know how many criminals watch this channel but um ignore what I just said if you're watching your criminal because at one point you said hey can you go ahead and get the fried pickles because I like I come here I always get them when I come and and I thought that seems odd that out of nowhere he just said that like that's got to be I know like I'm not like that fat to where I'm ordering like actual food like mid cash I mean I'm getting there but not yet and you know so then with the guy in New Mexico the decoy reached out to the sheriff's office beforehand and they were willing to technically not work with us but they

were willing to be aware of what we did and you know they just happened to be watching the stream as we were doing it and you know when I ordered the food they just happened to be around the corner and go arrest the guy so you know well man that you know i don't know where to begin like the guy i was going to say the one the one yesterday he yeah he he just started to spill everything just started very you know but the thing is the well first of all you're a big guy so it's not hard for you to move the guy to you know and you just said hey let's talk out here i mean the guy's like looking up at you so he's like uh okay so he immediately bolts out the back and you're standing there but you're all you were also you know like I said you were non-confrontational non-jured like like I can't see where he would say oh I felt uncomfortable or anything like that because you were so just you know appreciative of him moving out there talking to you having conversation and multiple times you're like oh yeah yeah no I don't I don't think you're I don't think that's weird at all no that's fine no no no that no I you seem like a nice guy you were very you know and you're pulling out the transcripts of the phone of the of the text conversations and you're like well he's

hear you say this and this. I mean, you seem very respectful. And, you know, you were going on and you were making him feel comfortable. And the more comfortable he felt, obviously, the more he talked. Yep. But, God, the stuff he was saying. I know. I know. I mean, he was absolutely one of the worst. I mean, he worked at a daycare. And, you know, that's for one reason only. And he rented the van. He rented the van. What? What? As soon as I saw the van, I said, well, there's no reason for like a 45-year-old man to go meet. Yeah. of young individuals with a van like that immediately makes me think serial killer yeah absolutely and

the fact that he said he's been caught before by cops doing this and they didn't they drop they drop the charges i don't understand you know so that's that's crazy like especially when it comes to something because you know with you um you know you got arrested for fraud that's fixable you know what i mean you're not you're not you're not genetically a fraudster but i think these people are genetically um you know the way they are i just say and you know when they show you that the first time like believe it you know like there's no like I guess even with something like you know say say I go ahead in a how do I say just rope some rope somebody at a G to the beginning of that word you know just grab their but they're my age right you know I can

you know I can I can fix that I can just not do that again but I think with them when they're going to try to meet you know younger ladies under 18 off the internet I don't think that's fixable i think in their head they just have to do that that's just how they are so i was so so when i went to prison obviously um i told you that but i was you know i was held in like a marshal's holder for like a year then i was sentenced then i did third or did three years in a medium security prison well it so there's not a lot of of offenders there like this right um because they'll hurt them you know that like they're not they don't do Well, they basically have to stay in the unit.

They don't go in the rec yard. When they go to Chow to eat, like they literally, when they call last call, and basically the Chow Halls empty, these guys, there might be 10 out of 1,800 guys. They'll immediately rush out of the unit, go straight through the line, grab their food, eat as quick as possible, go back to the unit because they have a unit that is there at Coleman. They had a unit that was specifically for people that had mental problems, and they would stay in that. unit you know and they're i mean like guys that are schizophrenic or right right epilepsy or you know different issues so but at the low 50% of the inmates out of 1800 inmates at the low security prison 1500 who are either there for that specific charge for looking at pictures almost all them in federal are looking at pictures typically they know they're not we

just call them hands on they're not hands on right right um hands on typically in end up in the state. It's a state crime. Right. If you're looking at things on the internet, the feds get involved. Right. So most of these guys looked at stuff on the internet. Now, some of them had actually videoed things, and they actually were a part of creating, you know.

Rings? Yeah. Yeah. Like, for instance, there was at one point, there had been like a bust of, honestly, there's probably a thousand, maybe even more, of guys that were pegged. like four or $500 a month to be a part of a website where a father was doing things to his daughter since she was like the age of like nine and she'd been he'd been doing it for like three or four years eventually a guy got caught for something else and he told the authorities listen I can help you with something this is what's going on I'm a member of this site

and the site's huge and so they go in and they get all of these guys like IPO addresses They trick, they, IPO? IP address? What am I saying? Okay, their IP addresses, they track them all down, they set up stings, they arrest hundreds of them. Nice. We ended up getting like, we probably had 30 of the same guys on the same case. Like, they don't know each other, but they're all in the same case.

And so, like, you know, that's extremely, like, to me, it's like, you're looking at a picture, an underage, you know, underage person, a picture of them. Like, okay, you didn't really do anything. Like, I get it. You know, you're a sicko. You're a pervert. You need counseling. I don't know if you need prison, but whatever. I don't make the rules.

But you're a member of a site where some guy is doing something. Like, you're promoting that. Right, right. You're like paying. Yeah, it fuels the market for it. And I think they're indirectly, I think they're indirectly doing it. I mean, the same way, the same way that these only fans people get this affirmation because all these simps are like, you know, promoting them it's it's the same way like without without all these people paying for it would

the abuse still happen maybe but would it be i mean it wouldn't be distributed like it is and it wouldn't you know it wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't get to a point where the dad's doing it for like a profit and you know he wants to like do it more and more and more hundreds of guys hundreds of maybe even thousands of people are paying and this is the thing too this is what killed me when somebody had told me about it like hey bro like we got like 30 of these guys from this one guy i was like really and they were like yeah they've been coming in over the last couple two three weeks because they all get sentenced at different times and move so over the last two three weeks they're like that guy that I'm like oh wow that okay and I remember saying um well I mean

you know and they were saying yeah those guys are like contributing to this this crime and I remember saying I was like I said well I mean what would someone pay for that anyway and they were like the guy and he they told the exact figure and I remember thinking that's a car payment like you've got you're making a car payment to to be a part of this this like and one of the guys was a principal of a school a lot of these guys put themselves in a position to be around young adults right yeah i want to say young adult you know younger ladies under 18 yes yeah yeah yeah like i mean the daycare worker um gosh the guy the video that we posted uh two videos before that that guy he went out i mean he has no job it didn't do

anything he's on he's on welfare but he made sure that he gets to baby sit his friend's kids. Like the one time he leaves his house, he's doing it to babysit his friends kids. Like when we confronted him, he was in his pajamas like at 6.30 p.m. You know, but he'll get dressed and suddenly want to be social to go do that. And, you know, it's not a coincidence. Like apparently at the daycare, the guy's only been working there for a couple weeks because he just was homeless. He, you know, got his life back on, well, temporarily back on track. And so luckily he was supervised by like the other woman there because you couldn't be alone with the kids yet but I think it was only a matter of time and I'm glad he decided to go do this actually I'm glad

he decided to go because we all know how he was he's been caught before he has that attraction so I'm glad he slipped up again and they got exposed for it you know a lot of these guys like they'll get time they get out so first of all it's funny because in Florida they used to not let them go to halfway houses right and that's a big I mean I know you don't you know you haven't been locked up but like you go to prison for five years you've lost everything right you know and you need to go to a halfway house uh for six months or so to just a you get a job you save some money like if they look if they just dropped you off at the corner like how am i gonna where am i going right oh your friends and family well what if you don't have friends and family if you're a criminal there's a

good chance that they've turned their back on you if you're one of these guys they're done with them oh yeah like almost always and then florida used to really only about a year ago they started letting them go to halfway houses again it was like 10 or 15 years where one had gone to a halfway house committed a crime in the halfway house they said uh-uh we're done with these guys and they cut them off but they just started letting them go again um to you know get back on their feet but then they can't they's hard for them to find some place to to live they're all terrified of what's going to happen when they get out um they do not have an easy time in Coleman like in prison in Coleman they had an easier time than most

prisons at the at the low that I was at because it almost caters to them but they still they're bullied they're pushed around they're told they can't watch TV they can you know you can't come in the TV room you can't that it's it's it's it's rough and then they get out of course they have to start their whole lives over again so the so there's lot more stress on them and I'm telling you right now a ton of not a ton a lot of them do come back there were some guys that had been in state prison once or twice and we're now in federal prison for 10 years like like you listen it took me one time to go to prison right I'm not going back you know but you're right there's something they're wired wrong and the the other thing is now

they have something called the um it's like public it's a public safety factor where where they make them go take a course, and if they don't pass the course, then they won't release them. Like, they can permanently keep them in prison, supposedly. That's a law, but I don't know if they've done it yet. The other thing is, when these guys get out and they're on probation, they make them take a lie detector.

They're not, typically not allowed on social media. They're on, they're like, they're on them. They're supposed to be on them. Law enforcement often questions him, not because he's suspected of a crime, but because they find him fascinating. He is the most interesting man in the world. I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud.

Stay greedy, my friends. Support the channel. Join Matthew Cox's Patreon. The amount of... Offenders? Yes, the amount of offenders that we've caught. Gosh, I'd say probably like 10 to 15% of the people we catch are offenders. Like the guy in New Mexico, I mean, he was facing charges for, you know, viewing his phone the wrong way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And from what I understand, he faked his death. Carl's Bad New Mexico, PD thought he was dead. And, you know, because we showed his face to the detective beforehand. And he's like, he's dead. I thought that guy was dead. He sure at this guy? And so.

I have a video. Yeah. So then we like, so he turns out he's living in his parents' shed. and he has a VPN to show he's in like in a city like 30 miles north and he ends up going to meet like he was originally supposed to meet a one three year old like I'm sorry a 13 year old you know 13 year old and he ditched that to go meet who I was posing as I was posing as a mom of three kids seven two and one and he he just stopped talking to the 13 year old went to go to go to them instead and then when we go meet him um he wants to go

meet at a church. And he's like, I'm over here, I'm over here. We were supposed to pick him up and take him to the house. But then he just confesses to wanting to, you know, he had a line. He said he wasn't going to do anything to the one year old, but the two year old, that was fair game to him. I mean, this is genuinely how he thought. And he just admitted to watching 20 years worth of illegal stuff on his phone. And then the cops came about 30, 40 minutes later. They were watching the stream. And I deed him. And, well, he was. He wasn't dead, and now he's in jail, in Eddie County, New Mexico jail for the moment. So do you sometimes have to have to go, like once they grab these guys,

do you sometimes have to go and testify at, like, a trial? Like, do they go to trial? Very rarely. Not rarely because they don't get charged. Rarely because, I mean, they're on video saying what they're going to do, then all the messages. So, I mean, they'd be dumb to not take a plea deal. But there's one person that did, in fact, go to trial that I actually had to go.

supposed to testify this morning at a preliminary hearing, but they waived it last minute. I was going to do it over Zoom for a guy in Pennsylvania. But there is a guy that went to trial. His name is Jeffrey. God, I don't even know how to see his last name, but it's a really weird name to pronounce. I think I'm Wanninger or something. And he's in Iowa. And so the trial wasn't specifically for the charge of trying to solicit one of our decoys.

It was for a chomo charge. And the reason why I had to testify in that is because on the video, video, he admitted to me to, you know, having a relationship with his stepdaughter. And so they played that part in court. He pleaded not guilty to it despite confessing to the detective, confessing to me, having the messages saying he did it. And he got sentenced November 7th to 35 years in prison. In state?

In state. Yeah. And that's not all. Then he's also now in Polk County jail because he got convicted in Madison County. He's in Polk County, Iowa jail now. he's awaiting trial for now our video of soliciting the decoy so he's going to jail for the rest of his life luckily geez I can't imagine

going to a state facility with that charge oh yeah horrible horrible I mean there's like two people in Iowa so he might be okay but like still probably not they'll punch him out I'm sure yeah it's not going to be it's not going to be hard it's not going to be easy I mean

It's going to be some hard, hard time. I was trying to think, what are the other things that, I'm trying to think of all the different things that they're trying to do to curb the behavior and curve. Like, you know, they can give them shots, they can do, there's all kinds of stuff that the federal government tries to do. They monitor the hell out of them. Yeah, but I don't know.

I don't know what stops it. I think, like, I just think that, you know, there's a, you know, there's just myth in society that everybody's equal and deserves a fair, shot. I think that's BS. I don't think everybody's equal. I think those people are, I think, I think those people are just, I'm sorry. Some people are just born messed up. And, you know, and I think this has to do with, in a way, kind of how politically correct we're getting, like, oh, it's okay. They're just, they just need help. They just need help. No, there's no helping

these people. They're like, they're like the Energizer Bunny. They're going to keep going to keep moving their legs to what they want to do. You can put a roadblock in front of them. Okay, remove five years of prison. They're going to keep doing it. Keep doing it. There's no stopping these people like there's no like okay so i got arrested in 2019 for a dw i and i wasn't doing i was on the wrong side of the road it was dark as heck and i was on the country so i didn't know what's the road i was on but you know i did six hours in jail and that's enough for me to like really make sure like okay this is this this is that don't do it and you know i ended up getting dismissed i had nothing in my system but you know that's enough for me to like curb me like that's a that's six

hours to me as a wake-up call and for a lot of these people we caught a guy in ohio he did 20 years for you know making his uh daughter's belly big via you know right right and he did 20 years for it he's he's literally got out like a couple years ago and he's trying to um go talk to an 11 year old and he can he confessed to it he even sent over um he even sent over an illicit image to who he believed to be this um you know young younger lady under 18 And he just went right back into jail. We just told the detective after it happened. And, you know, next thing you know, just a week later,

we just see him on the list as like in jail. So, I mean, I have a slightly different, you know, because I was in a prison where like half of these guys either, you know, they had either those specific charges or those charges in their past. Like you might be here on a completely different charge but in your past you have a charge. So they can't send those guys to, you can't send those guys to just anywhere.

You know what I mean? Because one of the things that happens when you get to prison is they want to see your paperwork. Right. So it's going to be listed in your paperwork. They're not going to be okay with that. So, but, you know, I spent, so I spent a considerable amount of time in a prison with these guys. And clearly, there's something not right. You can look at them and tell, oh, something.

We actually had them kind of categorized. Like, he's a sleeper, you know, he's a sloth. which we or he emotional emotionally emotional was it stunted emotionally underdeveloped so I forget what it was but what what and I don't know the exact statistic I'd love to know what the statistic the exact statistic but I remember having a conversation where a guy had said well you have to understand that like 70 or 80 percent of these guys were or claimed to be have been taken advantage of when they were kids. And as a result of that, it stunted them in some way.

And now they connect, you know, whatever, you know, those acts with the age that they were taken advantage of were close to it. And I remember the guy said that. He's like, so, you know, it's kind of messed up. And I went, you know, and I get that. And in that way, they're victims. Like, I feel for you. Yeah, definitely. I feel for you that this guy went through that.

But that created a monster. And as unfair as it is, you can't let monsters roam society. So do I feel for you? I feel for your plight. I feel for what happened to you. It's unreasonable. It's not right. But it happens to lots of people that don't turn into this.

Absolutely. So I feel for you, but you can't walk. around society. That's always like an excuse that I give them to like kind of confess to stuff because like I'm like, I try to always fit in at anything happened to you when you were younger. And if they say yes, I'm like, oh, okay. So now I understand why this is happening. You weren't born like this. You were created. This is unfair what happened to you. So you are here to do. It's not, yes, but I know, give them an out. Yeah, give them an out. But yeah, I totally agree with you regardless of what happened. Like, okay, if I get robbed, am I going to go rob somebody now? I don't know. I actually can't

compare that to like an SEX crime but like you know you know and if that's the case like if that's a valid excuse how come the woman that get the woman that get you know victimized how come they don't go do it right all the women are they it happens to them and they become extra against it and maybe there's i mean maybe there's some innate difference when it happens to some people were more susceptible to you know and and that's and that's horrible right horrible thing but once again it's like sorry you know what exactly it's like saying i was i was born poor and everything everybody I know is a drug dealer and so I sell drugs well I understand that's that's certainly a contributor but there's lots of people in your neighborhood that have

regular jobs right they were born poor their parents were drug dealers their parents were in and out of birth like that's an excuse you know in a way it's an excuse like I get it is a contributing factor but it doesn't happen to everybody not everybody lets that take over their lives right make that yeah because in the end it has to be in your mind you have to be capable of doing it like no matter how many times like no matter how many times some things can be shoved in my face or whatever some of things i'm just going to always be adverse to and obviously they were still born in a way to where they're not adverse to that like like their their minds their genetics are still or their mind is still created in a way that they're capable of doing that if something

happens to them or whatever and you know there is one guy that we caught um gosh i really feel for this guy sadly um he just had he had so many so many people that he did this to and he was obviously like very messed up like his you can see this video on rumble it's like an ordained minister that we caught and his wife what or is i'm sorry 23 or 24 years old now met her when she was 10 years old online when he was 36 and just she's very emotionally stunted he would like solicit uh you know n u d es from her as a kid he said he told me that he still had a folder of her pictures from when she was like 11 and 12 on his phone And, you know, he said what happened to him is that satanic ritual abuse happened to him when he was between two and five years old.

And it stinks. I mean, I believe it happened to him. I believe that's a very real thing. I mean, look at a Balenciaga, you know. I think all that stuff's real. But still, I mean, he knows how bad it is. He knows how much it messed him up. And now when he called his wife on the phone, she was in the hospital for like mental issues now because of course, of course she is.

and he like just talking hey baby this and then he had diapers like around the house he likes to do age play he likes to put her in diapers and do all this stuff here i mean he's just so screwed up and you know got to a point where yeah i'm sad for him but i don't care what happens to him now i mean he's there's no excuse for these people like i mean to everybody do not take sympathy with these people they were so sick um so are so how long do you plan on continuing to do this well i mean i take are you going to be a cop i mean i want to right i want to but I take things day by day. Like, I don't really,

I always, in some capacity, I always want to be in a position where I can get, you know, bad people that do this type of stuff off the streets. Right. And go save children, whether that's going to run for office one day or be a police officer.

I want to do this in some capacity or continuing to do this. But, I mean, my immediately, my immediately, my media plans, as for, I had like glitched out for a sec. For now, you know, until I settled down with my girlfriend, and we have like beautiful babies together.

I'm going to keep doing this. And hopefully when we settle down somewhere, I'm going to go be a police officer in whatever area. So, so basically you have a Rumble channel. How long have you had the Rumble channel? I've had the Rumble channel for a couple months now. Is it working out as well as the other platform? Yeah, well, I mean, better or?

No, I mean, not yet. I mean, I have some favorite channels that I like to watch. on many platforms but um yeah i mean the rumble's doing pretty all right okay there's not no issues no no okay okay yeah well because i because i was thinking about doing a rumble channel like moving some stuff i have a ton of content at this point like starting a channel and moving it over there um also uh so do you ever watch um is it uh it's puggy pug or yeah if you want to see some awesome videos go watch Puggy Pug on YouTube. Yeah, I mean, just some very, very, very, very weird stuff on that channel.

I would recommend to go check it out and also go check out at P.P. Southeast Texas. Those are just my personal favorite channels to go watch if you want to see this type of content and these people getting confronted. But yeah, that's just, those are just my personal favorite channels. Those are the only two I'm going to plug because I just like them so much better than every other channel. So, yeah, yeah. So are there a lot of, is there a lot of editing?

in the videos because I noticed, you know, there was, there were parts that were cut out. Like, it was that one video was like 45 minutes. Right. So, well, how much was trimmed down or was there? Was it just in its entirety? Well, we don't really trim anything down per se. I mean, we do. So basically, we live stream the catches too.

So the live stream's going, going, going continuous. You know, it's privateed on, you know, it's just private on whatever platform we're using. And so as for the camera. stuff like basically if the cops are just kind of talking to them and it's like 20 minutes at this point we're like okay just cut the camera off live stream's going the cops have their cameras going we just want to make sure everything's documented by either us or the cops right so so yeah I mean there were like there were jump cuts in the video but nothing that we said to him was cut out you know what I mean so you know it cut to where the cops were talking to him whatever then they end up like letting him go they

say we got to go the decoy in Illinois has to go up to Pennsylvania to give his phone to them I don't understand why they're doing that, but whatever. And then I just pull Angel aside. That's the guy's name. And I got the daycare he works at because I'm like, okay, well, if he's not going to, if him getting a van and crossing state lines isn't enough to go arrest him on the spot after admitting to want to do stuff with very, very young ladies under 18, then whatever. At least I'm going to get his daycare and make sure he's away from them.

And, you know, I end up calling the daycare a couple days ago. And, yeah, he's gone. I don't even. Okay, I don't know. What else? Do you want to cover anything else? So first I have a question. Are you like living out of hotels?

No. Oh, okay. I got a, I got an apartment. It's so, it's so dirty. That's all my fault, though. But like, you know, a good excuse, like, I tell everybody. And, you know, I tell them, because when my girlfriend moves in, you know, she's cleaning that, you know what I'm saying. But good excuse I tell everybody is I keep it dirty on purpose so I can keep working and just doing this across the country.

totally has nothing to do with me being lazy and a slob at all. It's because I'm so motivated to go do this that I never stay in there. Well, because like right now, you're leaving here to go to another state. It's not like you're not even going in Florida. You're like, as soon as you get leave here, like you've got to leave by a certain time, you're getting in your car, you're driving for

four or five hours or six hours. I don't know how long is it. Seven, yeah. Seven hours to grab somebody that's already prepared to be someplace, you know, and then you were like, what was it a couple days ago? You were somewhere else? I mean, how often are you grabbing these guys?

I'm trying to think. So, I mean, let's take November. So November, the second to the 12th, I was gone. Then the 19th to the 22nd. And then it passed. So I guess like half the month I'm probably gone. No, I'm saying half. How often are you grabbing people?

Yeah, once. Probably half the month, yeah. Is that four people? Is that three? Is it? Oh, yeah. like literally like probably this month we've caught probably around like 12 to 15 and that's and it's you and it's so are you on the are you actually like texting or is this you have a crew of or some

other guys that are actually doing the it's it's a combination so we probably have like four four to five people that are just kind of texting that's their main thing but I mean I'm logged in to almost all the accounts and I'm like doing it too. And then when it comes to, like, meeting time, like, I'm the one in the area that knows exactly what I'm going to be there. So I take that over then. But, I mean, the guy that, gosh, for example, the guy in Arizona that was into doggies and infants, I mean, the texting to him, I probably did 90% of it. And then, of course, the actual decoy did the video call with him. Do these guys ever bolt?

Like, do you ever walk up and say, hey, so what's going on? They go, done. And this take off? Yeah, if they were smart, that's what they would do. Like, sometimes the whole, like, hey, man, I just got to talk to you. Sometimes they're like, I don't see. your badge you're wearing like a freaking a Walmart t-shirt like I'm just getting the heck out of here you know but um yeah but no most of the time they stay because you know their first thing is like

I got to explain myself like I guess it's like they're natural yeah I think they want they're trying to explain them the this issue oh if I explain it correctly he'll understand he'll cut me a break like this what are you going to say yeah yeah if I just tell them that I'm not really here for what I was saying the past three months I was going to do right and you know it's great but um you know my My advice to them, you know, just trying to make it fair here, my advice to them would probably be to run away from me, but let's hope they don't watch this. Has anybody ever gotten violent? Anybody ever?

Because I thought I saw one video where the guy was yelling at you. Yes. We've definitely had some hostile people. The only one that actually got physical was an individual named Lorenzo, which is on the Rumble Channel. He was one of the first ones in 2019. He was just insane. Like, he wasn't, like, physically imposing or anything, but he just, he was, like, so pompous about being caught.

Like, he just, he tried to hit the camera, but he ended up, like, scratching the camera, man, like, it's barely like this. I mean, I'm just very glad that, like, the only guy that got violent was, like, a 20-year-old effeminate twink. I'm glad it wasn't like, I'm glad it wasn't like somebody that did, like, 20 years in the pen. Right. Well, I mean, you're a big guy. Yeah. You know, what, what, what, six? Six-four?

Yeah. Yeah, you're a, yeah. that's that's massive i mean to me especially to me i'm tiny so you're massive um yeah i don't i don't see anybody getting it just it just kills me like when i would watch the tv shows and listen here's what's funny is in prison guys would go and watch give in mind the what half the people there was there for guys would go and they would get 20 guys would get around and they'd watch the tv show and they would just like you know laugh and just you know and just you know and or shake their heads and you know and then you know these guys are all there and they know what they're watching it's

this super uncomfortable situation um and every time like i would sit there and i and i'd see him go and they'd sit down they'd sit out and i'd go oh my god why is he sitting down or the some guys would get up and run and then the cops would pounce on him right right right so i was just wondering if anybody ever took off um yeah quite quite a few quite a few i want to take quite a few but very rarely they do like we got a guy in his truck the other day And I'm like, hey, Terry, he's like, that's not even my name. Then he just, so it is what it is. Do you try and follow them or?

I used to kind of do that, but then I realized, like when I was like 19, I engaged in say more risk-taking behaviors in my car then. But yeah, now it's like, okay, well, there's always the next one. We got a license plate. Let's just go from there. Right. I was sorry I was just going to say, like you've got so many, you know, like there's another guy in two days it's another one in four days there's no like like at that point you don't

you don't even have to you know um you don't even have to pursue anybody because you've got so it sounds to me like you've got so many people that are you're throwing lines out there all the time yep last time i counted how many people were talking to it was like 80 and as many what's so messed up is as many times as you throw a line out you almost get you almost catch fish you know literally never fails man I mean the apps that we go on so there's a difference like okay if you're on a dating app like say grinder or something they're expecting to someone over 18 like nobody goes on grinder saying oh I'm gonna go try to find kids on here because it's an over 18 app but you know when they come across a kid they're like well I don't mind you know but they're not expecting one you know right but when you're on like basically you know there's the dating apps and there's a social media apps like social media apps like Instagram or something people are on there looking for children like they follow like like this guy that we got young adults yeah yes look for children to you know help boost them but they will go after like young adults you know they're just you know they're good people of course right but um you know so we call this guy in divine texas which is like a little bit south

of san antonio and instagram is so blatant about this like you know twitter tries to like a whole thing with Elon Musk and Twitter is he saying he's like trying to take away this basically this illicit material on the platform uh there's a ton of it you know people say like well it's not actually a big issue no there's whole communities of these people that using certain hashtags like when there's the hashtag dropbox um you know drop box like the app whatever you can't send files but you know they can't specifically allegedly they can't post this stuff on twitter but they can post a drop box and in the drop box i didn't see for myself but i can put two and two together like the same people that want to want a younger lady under 18 are clicking

on this draw i can put two and two together what's in the drop box and you know they use these easy ways to get around it's like um you know where you just basically see a house with like one small gate and you can just walk around the gate and get into the house that's basically all these social media apps firewalls and whatnot it doesn't do anything to stop them and you know so on instagram we caught this guy in divine texas um he's literally following a page that's for maps and aam's a map is a minor attracted person and an aam is an adult attracted minor and he's just following a page for them that the page just allowed on instagram um and i'm sure they're just posting nasty stuff on there it was a private page but when i

saw that he followed it, I knew that he was a guy that was into looking at some type of images. So he goes to meet who he believes to be this 13 year old and, you know, basically then he confessed to looking at some of these images and now he's going to be, should be arrested any day now. He confessed to the detective as well a couple days

ago, so any day really should happen. I was going to say cheese, but what you ever heard, cheese pizza? Of course. Okay, yeah, yeah. That's like a code word. Oh, they're a ton of code words, right? Yeah, yeah. They'll have a whole

conversation in front of you you don't have got a fucking clue what's going on like i'm like like it doesn't quite make sense like what these two guys are saying but to them it certainly does right right like it's confusing like with someone like me i can say i love cheese pizza and people would like no but then when i see these predators these uh these adults that are going after younger ladies start using this word i'm like uh well i'm a vegetarian pizza lover but like yeah it's just very uh yeah it's It's, I mean, I've known about that hashtag for probably like two years now, like them started using it. And, you know, there's tons of those pages on Instagram that just advertise like, you know, pizza, pizza, pizza, and sickening. And then they also use this code word called unicorn.

I don't know exactly what unicorn. I forgot what it, but it's something to do with a, it's something to do with like a young, younger lady under 18. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, there was a guy in Oregon named Fred Hendricks Jr. who he got. he was so calm for eight months like you know they're all there's one reason he's texting an eight year old right but he was so calm for eight months like just hey how are you today good oh work was fine okay like very cordial conversations and then he's like when we hang out i just want to bring you a unicorn and at the time i was like see like i was just like dude just get to the point already

like i was just thinking this like come on man but then when i found out what found out what unicorn actually meant he was like oh this guy was way like so depraved and we ended up getting him he'd end up being one of the worst still like one sexual message but i didn't know he was on the sex offender registry and he just confessed to so many victims and he's currently serving three and a half years in organ and in organ that's probably like a very very long sentence well you know what's funny is that like in the state will give them these sentences of like three years two years four years And yet if they're caught with, you know, viewing cheap, you know, cheese pizza, you know, on the internet, like, like the minimum of having just like one image is like three years in the feds. And typically these guys are coming in with, they're coming in with five, 10, 15, 20 year sentences in the feds.

They had a guy from Germany who had been talking to an FBI agent that he thought was a 13 year old boy. And he was in Germany. He got on a plane from Germany and flew to the United States. Dang. They arrested him in the airport. Like, they didn't even set the guy. They didn't even like, listen, you just, we have these horrific messages or horrific, you know, a string of text going back and forth.

And you just got on a plane. Like, you don't have a prayer. So his, his, so he ended up going to trial and trying to say, listen, in my country, I have not broken the law. like the age of consent is whatever it was it is like 13 or 14 and the person he was talking he's like so in my country i haven't broken the law they were like yeah but you were talking to someone in the united states and you flew to the united states so you were intending to do this to someone in the united states and break the law yeah he goes yeah but in my country i haven't broken the law like i going there to do it and not doing it isn't breaking the law he went to trial he lost he got 25 years oh my gosh he tried desperately to get the get the um the german government to like come to his aid like their their version of like the u.s attorney or their attorneys to try and say look send this guy back to us you know no no harm no foul you can't do like they were they weren't receptive to helping him in any way at all uh yeah

he was a a thin german guy walking around had 25 years didn't know what to do he's done he's done like like they're not going to cut you any slack at all with that charge, especially in the justice system, not in the federal justice system. But it always killed me. Like, in the state, had that been a state crime, he'd have probably gotten two or three years. Right. You know, he'd have been on a registry somewhere. But in the feds, man, they're handing out time like it's nothing.

Yeah. I mean, that's just such a porous excuse to use. Well, I'm not, I mean, he knew it was going to be illegal in America. Like, I'm sure he researched. Like, I mean, he knew. Well, it doesn't even matter if he didn't, if he knew it. not. This is a U.S. citizen. Right. Right. You know, now I agree that laws in your country are different than great. Stick to your country. Yeah. Victimize your people. Yeah. It's like,

I mean, how many how many countries can you use that? And it's like, it's like, okay, if a Western white woman went to like, um, I ran and just walked around and like a bikini everywhere. Yeah. Oh, but I can do that in America. Dude, they would laugh and better, dude. Like, it's like, it's like not a good excuse. But yeah, I mean, we get a lot of Europeans, um, that do message us. We don't really engage with them because I'm like, okay. I mean, realistically, I'm not going to get on a plane and go to France and get this guy. Because, you know, like, I want to. But the thing is, like, just logistically, like, how am I going to have phone service to use Google Maps, driving on a different side of the road, I think?

Like, whatever. You got to go with, they got to jump on a plane fly over here. Yeah. I was going to say there was also a guy that got 10 years. He was a teacher, teacher of the year, like three years in a row. Of course. Used to brag about that. You bragged about that in prison?

Yeah, yeah. He was like, well, you know, I was teacher of the year three years in a row. It's like, okay. Well, it's not why you're here. He's been known to cure insecurity just with his laugh. His organ donation card lists his charisma. His smile is so contagious. Vaccines have been created for it.

He is the most interesting man in the world. I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. stay greedy my friends support the channel join matthew cox's patron he would go once a year to singapore and he had gone to singapore he had you know had you know inappropriate relations with you know young young girls who were prostitutes according to him you know in that country and then he had come back to the united states and he had photographs on his phone oh okay And he was engaged in talking with other people online. Somebody got busted.

The FBI had read the transcripts where he had talked about, listen, this is where you got to go. And he had sent pictures. So now you're distributing. And you've just admitted online. They end up grabbing him. He ended up taking a plea for 10 years. Like, you can't go to trial.

The guy's to go to trial. I'll get 25 years. So like, take your 10. And, but anyway. Yeah. We run into a few that are kind of like that. We're talking to a guy in the eastern part of the country. He does like these, like, from what to seem like, backpacking trips, like Africa and stuff like that.

And there's another guy. He never really engaged in the talk. I think that's because he's so careful. Like, it's so obvious what he's doing. It's so obvious with who he follows, but I think he just knew we were in the States. So he's not doing that talk with us. his pictures were littered with him and these young boys like you know they were posted publicly on instagram he didn't send us nothing but like just you could tell i mean this guy's in these

like these like third world countries and just abusing the crap out of people man i mean they do it i mean we we we caught a mormon missionary a couple weeks ago in virginia um i don't i don't know like why maybe that's why he was a more mission he was only 20 years old too and he was like i guess kind of in training or something and it's not nuts because they have to roll in patch it too and he was there with his friend his friend had nothing to do with it but you know i basically lured him out of the apartment by going to the front office thing i got a package for him and because he can't give me the apartment number but they can give me they can call him and say we have a package so he comes around just like nothing happens

and boom we go get him and then the cops come he's being investigated right now and i think i think he will get arrested because we had an arrest in that area too of firefighter so i think it'll turn out well but so many of these people sick we had a guy who um god i wish i can remember this guy's name too he was probably 6-1-6-2 good-looking guy um had been in trouble before but got probation for the same thing right then he got caught with photographs went to went to uh went to uh went to coleman for i want to say four or five years he was there he was there a few years that I know of got out and while on supervised release violated his supervised release because what he said was I had an email address they didn't know about and they found out I had this

email address and they violated my probation now that's possible you have to tell them all social media everything even I have to tell them hey here's my email addresses that I use here's my phone number here's my address like they have to come by but he he had a lot of one there was an email address and I remember thinking well I wonder how they figured out he had an extra email address and why would you have one and not tell them so he ended up getting his probation violated he came back they gave him like whatever 12 months or something so he comes back he's waiting to he's waiting to leave you know there was he was in um already been in county jail for several months it's so funny too because I remember my ex-wife had come to see me and we were in visitation

and she would always be sitting in visitation she'd go what's that guy here's for I go him bank robbery she'd go really I go yeah he brought like five or six banks she's like he's so fat

and I'm like I know right you would think like he's huge I'm like and I would tell her what he did because I knew like anybody who had semi-interest in cases I knew and then of course other inmates tell you about other inmates and then he was like

what about this guy I was like oh this and she goes what about this guy I go you'll never guess and she goes what she goes fraud fraud she's good looking she's he's smooth she goes con man right fraud and I go no she was bank robber no truck dealer no and then I tell her what he's there for and she's like she goes but he's so good looking and I was like I know I was like I know right like he can have anybody

but here's what happened you remember I told you about the email address yeah after a few months he gets called up to the lieutenant's office to be served that email address he was using to communicate that was connected to like a Facebook page or Facebook or something he was communicating with like a 13 or 14 year old and so they they just to get him off the street they violated his paper because they can do that just by saying

we're violating here for this and that you can't there's nothing you can do you don't have rights they threw him back in prison they the judge gave him 12 months while the investigate he didn't want to tell anybody there was an investigation though they charged him he was looking at something like six or eight more years or something dang you know like

being caught got probation caught again went to jail on probation did it again and I'm telling you this guy this is what we call a sleeper sleeper was somebody that was like no he looks like a normal guy funny nice and of course when they get there they try and tell

they would always try and tell you they were there for something else right right right You know what it was bothered me? They were almost 95% of the time they pick fraud. That bothers me. You can't pick drugs. You have to sally fraud. You know, they would go, they'd be like, oh, I'm here for fraud.

And you go, well, what kind of fraud? Oh, credit card fraud. Credit card fraud. That's the charge, credit card fraud? Yeah, well, in the federal system, there's no such thing as credit card fraud. It's like access device fraud. It's bank fraud. It's financial institution fraud.

there's no credit card fraud and so already now I'm looking at the guy going no I'm like and I go really what would you do you know and you start and let them tell me this long story that makes no sense at all the way they imagine credit card fraud work

I go where'd you get the social security numbers well how'd you get this how'd you get the credit cards well you didn't have a mail to your house did you know I had a mail to a PO box really they mail credit cards to a PO box they don't you know what I'm saying And I just let him bury himself and bury himself.

And I walk away, they go, hey, so what's that guy here for? I go, you know, boom, this, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cheese pizza. No, yep, you know, chomo, chomo. He's a beau. Oh, my gosh, man. Yeah, like you saw the University of Florida quarterback, like the backup, Jalen Kittna, just got a, you know, John Kittna, right? I don't know anything about sports.

You didn't watch any NFL in jail? No, I was writing books. Oh, you're right, you're doing something productive. Okay. Listen, and the guys that are watching sports, and they're all massive screaming, hollering. I can't stand screaming and hollering. Yeah, I get you.

But he's like the son of an NFL quarterback. He's playing on the Florida Gators team. He's like the backup quarterback 19 years old. He just got busted for, he got busted for possession, you know. Oh, man. Hey, while I was incarcerated, two correctional officers got busted. That works right at your place? Well, one was in the medium.

This was a guy, Lieutenant Zachary. I only remember his name because he bawled me out one time, throwing me in the shoe after I've been there like two weeks. And I had my chair, you know, there's two-tier system where, and there's like a, you know, like a balcony that goes a wrap around. You've seen prison shows. Like that prison was like a real prison. And I had my chair sitting on the second tier watching TV.

And he goes, you, you! And I was like, yeah. And he gave me a, I've thrown people in the shoe. for like he just balls me out everybody's looking i'm like what did i do and he's like you you know you have you're sitting in your chair on the up against the railing and it's like the fuck is your problem like okay tell me just tell me like i just got here you know but anyway probably two weeks three maybe a month later somebody came to me and said bro did you see the paper boom like they had he went to like a public's to meet some some some kid who was like a 14 year old you know

girl or something and to me bam they grab him did it end up being like a cop or was it like oh yeah yeah it was a sting it was all a sting oh my god another guy used his computer at the facility like was looking at stuff on the facility and he was same thing it was an fbi sting he was in a chat room he got messed up but it wasn't it was what was so horrible was that they actually have things on the computers like to spot stuff like that so somehow or another they actually knew what he was looking at it was a long of it on him he wasn't even trying like you're surrounded by these guys like you're not even making an attempt you're just brazen about it he uh yeah all same thing they walked him off the con like they came got him on the compound jeez grabbed him and walked him off we never saw him

again listen the the the congressional officers at a lot of these facilities are just they're they're they're they're they get into fist fights with each other i mean they're just you know these are the guys that like they couldn't quite be law enforcement right you know a lot of them A lot of times they're just nice guys. You know, maybe they did some military time. They got out. This looks like an easy gig. I really don't want to be a cop.

I just want to kick back. And those are the guys that are okay. Those are the CEOs that you're like, he's all right. Like he's not, he's just here to get a check. But some of them are all over just, they're like sadists. They're there to make your life miserable. And they don't have the temperament to be a police officer. Yeah, we caught a, we caught a CEO in Belmead, Texas, which is McClendon County.

That's where Waco is. You know, Baylor's at. That's where that is. Yeah, he was a correctional officer. And he was attempting to solicit who he believed to be a younger lady under 18, five years under 18, 13. And he, I mean, he just didn't really see much wrong with what he was doing. Like, he's like, I'm sorry, I won't do this again. But he was like, when did this all start for you?

So basically, long story short, he talked about how he video called a one five year old, like a 15 year old. And I'm like, okay, so was she naked? And he's like, well, yeah, I'm like, did you look? He's like, well, who wouldn't look? I'm like, uh. Most people. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, but you know, in the video, I'm like, yeah, that's a great point. Exactly. I can't blame you. And then, you know, this is as he has a sick wife who's dying. He's just sick. I mean, and then it's sad too because his dad was a CEO and his dad was there during the catch. And basically, you know, with these two people being in like the, his dad was there. So what you, he didn't come to meet you with his dad.

You guys went to him. Right, right. Okay. And so his dad is, his dad was also like a former CEO and just, just like they just had no idea that I was even going to call the cops. Like these two, these two, you know, cops pretty much, they just had no idea that I was trying to get them to confess on, well, the dad had nothing to do with it. But he had no idea. I was trying to get his son to confess on camera. And it sounds like 50 years old. They just had, they're so clueless. Like they don't ever plead. You know, I don't they can't plead the fifth to me. I'm a private citizen. But they never just shut up and just say, I'm done. They're just so stupid. But yeah, he got arrested and whatever. Well, I think also being a, well, I mean, in general, but in general, also correctional officers feel like they're law enforcement. Yeah. They are law enforcement. They are. So they're law enforcement.

And for some reason of some law enforcement, not all of them, but some law enforcement feel like as a result of being law enforcement, they're above the law. Like it doesn't really apply to them. Well, you know, it does. But I guess because they've been in that situation. And a lot of times they protect their own to such a degree, they start to, instead of, instead of, realizing like wow i dodged a bullet i need to straighten up they don't they become emboldened by it and they get even more risky they're or they conduct even more risky behavior yeah i mean we're talking to another co now he's in uh he's in like oh he's in oklahoma he's not he's not

ready yet you know what i mean he's careful like he's he's he's a little bit less stupid than the one in uh texas but he's already told me that he's viewed some images before but you know just technically not enough right now that he's done it in the past he said like that's all he said so far and i'm sure when i confront him in person i'll know more but you know he's getting close it's been it's been a couple months he calls a sexy at this point to two and eleven year old and it's like so the pictures the pictures we use um the girl now is 25 years old but we use her pictures from when she's like uh you know that age so nobody can say well she's actually um you know this is 25 being passed off as they say no this is an actual picture of her from when she's to say so there's no

excuses and um yeah i mean he i think he's just very sick and um i think he's he said the other day that he was watching some stuff on his phone he didn't say what kind it was so it could have been adults but he's getting very close and i i can't wait to go get him well um yeah i don't know i'm i'm i'm uh do you have anything else you can think you want to i know you're i mean i know there's a time grid you said you know we're coming up on one oh ready yeah well overall i'm a talker i'm a talker it's been fun it's been fun i mean i wish we could you know talk more openly you know i'm saying like there's certain things that i just you know i just don't want to get you there's actually a guy do you remember brett um bret johnson you know his channel got

taken down so this guy came here super cool guy uh guy um um scammer and you know came here like it had like a huge case like like as far as being like you know if you could say like the fraudster scammer kind of you know uh subculture you know he's like at the top like he's like the everybody everybody every every every scam artist out there like knows who brett johnson is right so he came and he had a channel and just kind of started it and was doing doing you know semi doing well starting to get going he did a i think he did a zoom interview with a woman that was and and i i only got it through a text with him so i believe it had to do with um kind of like um like sugar daddies like

guys that are paying women that they're they're going to college and kind of like that right right right yeah i forget the name of it but but yeah where you they basically pay them and they they pay for their whatever their living expenses whatever they try and say that it's not prostitution you know they try and say it's not you know that but it is

right you know um and so he had this conversation with this woman this is what I understand this is what I'm I may be off but on on a Zoom podcast like what she was doing she's running the site she's this what he put that up

and they took down his entire website and everything he's like he's trying he's like I'm trying to appeal it I don't understand what happened it's the only thing I can think of I put the video up within like 24 hours it got shut down everything was wiped was taken off was she like she wasn't like nude no no no no like he's he's saying like I don't understand what happened like he he was and this was a couple months ago because people were in my comment section telling me hey bro you know Brett Johnson's and his channel's down like the whole thing's down like you can't even find him so he then so I contacted him I said hey bro what's going on he said man listen this is what happened he told me he said i'm hoping to have it back up in a couple weeks well a couple weeks ago which now had been like two months was probably a week or two ago i asked him if it was back it's not back up i mean i can see that it's not back up and he said i have no idea bro i'm moving he said we're we're hoping to get it up we're trying we're disputing we're

trying to figure out what's happened i'm moving everything to rumble and that's what that's you know so yeah i think that's a good move for anybody because Because, you know, and you know what's crazy about YouTube, you know, there's these videos of, you know, they definitely have a, they definitely have a faith, they definitely play favorites. And there's these videos of, you know, and these people have kid audiences. There's a, you know, there's like these reaction channels that go ahead and they like, you know, they get into, they display like sex toys on the camera, on the camera for people to go see. and you know kids are watching they're like and then these only fans

you know T-H-O-U-G-H-T-A you know thoughts in the head of course those type of people they get to just be super super hypersexual and then there's these videos

of like Brazilian wax and like I don't go watch these videos but I hear this stuff like when I'm like yeah YouTube's really clamping down on people trying to do good things they're like what well this is a lot on YouTube this is a lot like I don't watch too much YouTube

you know but But, you know, they allow all of this stuff. But if somebody's actually trying to do something good or give insightful info on things or to actually educate people, they're really not a friendly platform for that. And I think there's something way bigger at play than they let on. Yeah, based on the algorithm, or based on, you know, videos we've seen, like my, my analytics, like say that my channel should be blowing up, should be blowing up. Like, like, people are watching, like, more than 25% of my videos.

Like I'm doing three, sometimes four videos a week. Like we've been, we've never dropped off. We've been consistent for two years. Like the whole thing. But for some reason, it just, I have people telling me, bro, like, I don't, I don't get notified. Like, I've got the bell on. I don't get notified of your video. I thought you hadn't posted in two weeks.

I went and checked and you've posted like six videos. I hadn't. And then they're like, I unsubscribe, resubscribe, hit the bell. Like, they'll do the whole thing over again. And I've had that. It's not like it's three people. I've had dozens say that. And the only thing I remember I was talking to this guy, and I'll let you go.

I was talking to this guy one time, and I said, I know what I've been shadow banned. And I know why. I used to have a Trump painting up here. And this is what like I like, and I'm like, the Trump painting got me shadow band. That's what it is. It could. It's very possible. I think I've been shadow banned like for a month before because I could tell like, you know,

in the live streams, we get like, you know, close to 2000. but now we're getting like 1400 and the video views are going way down but that was just for a month but other than that like you know especially when especially since you know I do stand with a certain country and stuff like that I mean you see you see the amount of views like on this on that channel like yeah yeah it's outrageous it doesn't make sense you know what's so funny is like a year ago when I first kind of well I'm sorry a year and a half ago when I first started so I had maybe 10 10 or 15,000 views or our subscribers. I probably had two months straight,

maybe three months where I was getting 3,000 to 3,500 new subscribers every month. Good. And the videos were getting, you know, 4,000, 6,000 views, you know, not a whole bunch. Now my videos get twice as much and I get about 1,000,

maybe 1,100 new subscribers a month. And I'm putting out twice as much. as much content and it's even longer content right i was putting out 30 minute videos to an hour videos and getting 3 500 new subscribers now i'm putting out two hour and two hour videos sometimes four hour videos and i'm getting a thousand new subscribers a month these doesn't make sense it's yeah i mean there's there's no explaining it i mean i think i think i understand it but like yeah man i mean there's it's like with sub count doesn't really matter because you know Back when I did have a 150k sub-channel, in the live streams,

you know, it would be the same amount of people as like with a 40K sub-channel. Like that, I mean, the video views were different, yeah, but like the live stream views like, okay, why are the same amount of people? Like, it's very strange, very strange. Well, you know, hopefully things change. Hopefully, you know, I'm just pushing through it. But I appreciate you driving. Yeah, Rumble.

I appreciate you driving here. I appreciate you coming. Thanks for squeezing me into your, you know, your schedule. Appreciate y'all having me, man. And so do you have any other, any platforms that you want to push? I mean, I know your favorite is you've got you, I know Puggy Pug. I know you love that channel. I love that.

Just my favorite dog channel. And, you know, I like P.P. Southeast Texas. You know, that's also a great channel. A lot of interviews of people across the country on that channel. Very insightful, I'd say. And then on Rumble, my channel that I own on Rumble, it's called Predator Poachers, so you can just type in Predator Poachers on Rumble. Got about 7K subscribers, and hopefully we get that up soon.

Hopefully Rumble gets up and coming because I'm so sick of having to go around and just, you know, say what I mean. But like, yeah, but I appreciate it. My Instagram is 506 and F-I-D-D-Y-S-C, and my Snapchat for the ladies is, no, I'm just kidding. Nobody adds me anyway, but that's it. Okay. All right. All right. All right. So, hey, I really appreciate Alex coming by, and I appreciate you guys watching this video. Do me a favor. And if you like the video, hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. Leave me a message in the comment section. I try and respond to almost all comments, even if it's just a heart. But a lot of times, I'll respond if it's worthy of a response. Also, I have a Patreon. I got books for sale. Everything. all the links are in the description. I really appreciate it. So thank you and see ya.