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Kim Kardashian, all the big stars, I was there. I just took off as the celebrity drug dealer. So I went to a school in Columbia that it was all like, all the narcos have their kids there, all the somebodies, the governors, the mayors, political people, cartel bosses.

It was like a private school. It's a private school, but the thing is it was crazy that everybody in that school pretty much had their own bodyguard, one or two. The higher that it went up the totem pole had more security. Pablo's kids went there, Grisoldo's Blanco's kid went there, Michael. It was just all the somebody's kids went there. I remember in Columbia, the power with the bodyguards.

I remember being in the farms. People got machine guns and it's the whole farm. You have a militia. They're all around at all times. you know, when you get taken somewhere, you have a driver, but then there's two cars following you. You know, and after a while, you're a kid, you take a liking to these people because you see them all the time.

Sometimes you see them more than you see your parents because they're always in the property. They're always on the house. And I knew it was serious because in the farms, I remember the parties. Like, back then, I remember I remember like Jose Feliciano all these big singers

Celia Cruz all these people the families Pablo Rafa they would pay these people to come perform at the farms and I remember being a kid and watching these people later on when I grew up that I got older and I'm like oh shit Celia Cruz she's the queen of this

Spanish and she would come frequently so it becomes you You start seeing things, man, where when people talk and other people listen, people sit down when one person is talking. So I knew that there was some gangster shit going on. You know, we were never staying in the same house in Colombia for more than three days. We have multiple houses. So imagine being a kid and you want to play with G.I. Jones and things like that.

But you have it in the other house and then you have four different houses you live in. And, you know, you're always going from one house to another house. It's, I don't know, I guess as a kid, man, I was very, very smart. You know, I learned, I learned quick that, you know what I mean? There was a gangster shit going on. Why do you guys come back to the U.S.? My uncle Rapha had a lot of businesses in Miami. For example, my uncle Rapha had a very famous car dealership

right off of LaJune that they sold anti-cars. They had a dry cleaning business. They had a cleaning business. it was to wash money. Right. All this is used to do money laundering for the real business, which is dealing in drugs. Which is with the blow, right?

They couldn't, my uncle, without respect, my uncle could not get the money back to Colombia. Right. So normally you open a business, but you don't think it's going to be successful. So you're trying to wash money, but now you're making millions of dollars and you're trying to wash more money

than what you're doing. you're already making. My father being American, my, my uncle was like, look, come to Columbia. It was getting very hot. They were still trying to set everything up in Miami to do the pipeline. My father being from New York, from the Bronx, right? Being witty business, back then, the Colombians only wanted to sell to their people or to doctors, people with money, lawyers. My father was like, no he's like why are we only selling to the somebodies or to our people we need to sell to everybody every this is uh like a coke or a Pepsi so my father helped my uncle launder the money back to columbia pretty much bring the money okay we're making millions of

dollars in miami let's bring the money back how are we going to get the money back from America to Columbia. My uncle opened a big furniture mattress business where they made they made mattresses. It's crazy because years later I got into the mattress business. What they would do with mattresses is instead of putting coils and foam encasement, they would fill it up with money

and they will ship American-made mattresses back to Columbia and that's when they would take off the mattresses, rip them and get their money. We were living in Columbia, so I was about 15, 16. And my uncle pretty much said, no, y'all need to go back to Miami. We need to take over Miami. Did that answer your question, Matt? Kind of.

Kind of. So when you, so, but eventually you said you left Miami, I mean, you left Columbia and moved to Miami and just stayed there, right? Like, after 16. Yeah, yeah, I stayed in, I stayed in Miami. Do you go to a private school there, or did you just done with school? No, I went, I went to a private school. and then from the private school,

later on in life of my father, my father went to prison, then that's when everything changed. I started going to public schools. So how old were you when he went to prison? I was young. I was young. I want to say I was maybe like 17.

My father, my father, my father got indicted for a charge, but they didn't catch him for years. My father was on the run. I want to say for like maybe eight, nine years. I will see my father, even though he wasn't there, he was there. You know what I mean? I remember we used to like go to different pay phones and my mom would have a bag with quarters.

You know what I mean? And we would never use the same payphone twice. Right. And my mom would stand there. Sometimes she could get a call back. So we'll be there waiting and my father would call or we would call with quarters. It was shit like that. So when you graduate, you graduate high school?

Yeah. When you graduate high school, like, what's the plan for you going forward? You're getting a job at Chick-fil-A and... No, you know... Just a regular bus boy somewhere now. You're going on to college, become a CPA. My father always used to tell me that either you... There's two...

Either you could go to church or if you get into this business. Eventually, you will go to prison. My father used to say it all the time. It was like graduating college. You know what I mean? we have a very we have a family member he got he got pinched for some stoo

like he had a few pounds in the car and he went to prison and I remember when he got out everybody like threw him a party like if he went to college like if he got a master's and I remember I remember that

from a young age that I was like he was like play soccer go to school because this family business eventually you will end up either going to prison or getting killed. You know what I mean? He would always explain it to me.

My father was so blow around and uncut with it that I knew that somehow, some way, I wanted the money. I wanted the money and I wanted the power for sure, because I would see the way when my father will talk, people would listen. So how did you enter the business? Okay, so I got into the business. I want to say by mistake. I remember I had applied as sizzlers.

I don't even know they still got those Cisler I remember Cisler You remember Cisler? You remember Cisler? I don't think. You've never seen a Cisler. I haven't seen a Cisler so long.

I remember I had applied at a at a Cislers and they fired me like three days in fired me and I'm like yo but I'm like Why? I don't even remember why

I think a lady had complained about her soup She said the soup The soup was too hot And I remember I go on, I bring her another soup. And I remember the shit like it was yesterday. It's crazy. I go on and I bring her another soup, but she says it's still too hot.

And I remember I grabbed a cup of water where icing and I grabbed the ice and I put it in the soup. And she looked at me, an old lady, I never forget this, bro. And she looked at me and she says, oh, you're losing your job. And I remember like 10 minutes later, I was gone. I was gone. They asked me from my things. And I went home. I remember that shit was like, my father had just got out of prison.

And I remember me and my mother, we went from living in, I want to say the hood, man, but we were doing bad. You know what I mean? My mother had a little clunker. I remember my father being out a week. My mother, brand new car. He was like, I remember that day that he hadn't even been out for 10 days. He's like, yo, pack up all your shit or don't even bring, grab the necessary shit.

because we're moving and we went from like a two bedroom to like a six bedroom house brando right on the water in Miami Lakes my mother got a brand new Mercedes my father I just got I'm like I'm like what the fuck we went from like eating ramen noodles and beans to like I remember back then it was the filas and the Reeboks and my father was like come on he took me to the morn I remember I got like 15 pairs of shoes and the starter jackets. And this is back in the day, but I was like, I was like, yo, I want to do what you're doing.

And that's when the beepers, they had the beepers with different colors, shit like that. You remember the beepers or no? Yeah, of course. The fucking beepers, man. And I remember all I wanted was a beeper, man, and to have money in my pocket. And that's when my father was like, okay, you want to do this?

I'm going to show you how to do it. I'm going to try to do it the best way. And then, you know, start from my eight ball. And then you move your way up. You know, from a 3.5 to a half to a hole. And then you have all these little friends. Are you like selling to your buddies? I'm selling to my buddies.

This is like I haven't graduated yet to like the strip clubs and having people sell for me. No, no. This is I have a bunch of friends that want to be hip. And, you know, back then everybody was doing blah. Right. Everybody. And even though my father had one foot in, one foot out,

my father always wanted to have something legit. Like my father was in the catering business, the hotel business, the food business. So even though my father was doing things, he still had a nine to five. I remember that we were partying and go out. And he's a nine to five first probation officer at the very least. Well, there you go. I remember that we were party to like six in the morning. And my father was always up every day at seven.

in the morning. Even if he slept one hour. And I'm like, bro, we've been partying all night. And I was sleep until 12 o'clock. And my father was religious. He would always be up. Always. And always had a job. You always had a job.

Even after the parole, my father was just, he felt that even when I was doing my thing, my father made me put a magnet on my car, on my pickup truck. And he goes, every day you leave the house. and nine in the morning and you come back at night or you come back in the afternoon, I don't care what you're doing. You go to the gym, you make a schedule, you go to the park, you don't stay home all day and set up red flags.

You got to have a routine. And I remember that that got embedded in me. There was times that I had nothing to do. Nowhere to go. But it was a Thursday, and I'm like, well, if I got to go walk the mall or go to a park and sit down and, you know, back then they had the flip phones. So my father was very big about that.

My father was big about routines and things like that. Never take the same way home, you know. Don't talk on the phone, shit like that. So you start off and you're selling, like, how do you get to a point where you're not selling where you're like you're supplying somebody to go sell? Well. And where's all this coming from? Columbia. Yeah, but I'm assuming your dad's not handing and shit over the kitchen table, right?

I mean, are you, do at some point you circumvent him or are you just on your way? My father, you know what's crazy? My father had a group, right? And it was like his inner circle. And even though my dad's the boss, right, my father never handed nothing to me, ever. Even parties where everybody's getting high,

I can never say that I saw my father take a whack in front of me, or I took a whack in front of him. And we're both high at the same place at the same place at the same time. It was a respecting. Yeah. So my father's right-hand man, the guy named Tony,

I would get my work from him. My father just authorized it. Just like another time, me and my father, I gave work to a, this kid, a friend of mine, and he would sell it for three for 50, right? The kid gets caught, right?

The kid goes and tells his father. The kid's dad's a detective. but he was like you know how you always have that black sheep my father told me stay away from that kid his father's law enforcement that could bring us a problem I'm like no bro the kid the kid's solid he's not going to get caught

white kid I'm like nothing's gonna happen my father's like I'm telling you it's gonna be a problem the kid's gonna talk he's gonna we're going down I said no bro look we have a bond I was naive this is you know I still how long are you been selling at this point bro I want to say like I'm like a year two years You're strong.

Okay. You know? Now I'm growing, I'm growing it, but I have, I have enough where I saw certain one of my friends, three ounces, four ounces. But this kid, you got a couple guys out there that are selling for you. I have maybe like four or five guys that are solid that, you know, I'm moving work. But it was just this kid, man. We just had a bond.

We were just super cool, tight. And, you know, in this business, you need a white friend. You need a white friend or you're going to jail. I feel like you don't have a bond. I feel like that bond wasn't what you think it was. No, I just didn't. I didn't know that he was going to turn the way he did. Most people get in trouble because they lose focus at the wrong time.

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his father finds it in his clothes or something. The kid doesn't even wait. He doesn't even get busted. No, he got busted by his dad, but his dad's a cop. Right. So his dad finds the shit in his home, going through his kid's shit, finds three backs of glow.

I told him, I remember that we had rehearsed. I said, if you ever get caught, you have a drug problem or a junkie whatever you have a three bags that's the father I bro the guy said the whole movement he gets from his father his father's a Colombian kingpin

bro the the kid made it seem like I was one of the old chapel kids right the father thank God that the father there was a situation that had happened with the mother with the cop's wife and my father owned the car dealership

My father pretty much gave them a car. Not gave it to them, but, like, looked out to the point where it was peanuts on a dollar, right? And this guy, I remember the guy's... Wait, wait, you mean the father of your buddy? He comes into the car dealership and talks to your... Yeah, this is like, rewining. Rewining. My father has sold my friend's dad, which is a cop, a car for the wife, right?

This was like months before. So my father and him had... They were cool. I know who he was. You know, yeah, we go to school together. Like, we went to school together. We're friends. The kid finds that.

The dad finds the kid with this shit goes and he tells him, where'd you get it? The guy. They smacked them one time to talk. They had to smack them 20 times to shut up. It says more than he had to. He shows up to my house in a police car. And my father was like, I fucking told you. I already had worn my dad.

I was like, yo, something's going on. He's not picking on my phone. he um i'm beeping him he's not answering me back she said he was solid you had a bond we had a bond yeah um my father was like listen i don't know but if the father comes over here it's going to be a problem i was like my father cleans everything out the house and shit set and done the next day the father shows up right father doesn't want to look at me i'm a piece of shit to the father right the father looks at me like you fucking you junkie it's your fault right yeah of course it's

going to be his kid yeah goes and talks to my So my daddy goes, look, man, they got you like this big bad guy, but you're so good, you know, the dealer or this. And my father, father's a talker. My father was like, I can't believe my son is selling trucks, right? What are you going to do? These kids. Yo, so I'm trying to listen. They're in the living room.

I'm trying to listen. And my father was like, I want to get to the bottom of this, you know. I might have to send them to a rehab or something, these fucking kids. But thank you for coming to tell me and this, this and that, right? and I remember the cop They shook hands and everything The cop was like, look, let's just keep this between me and you You know, I don't want my son with your son

Your son's a real bad kid, right? And the guy leaves and my father was like, I fucking told you Didn't I tell you? He's like, you can't talk to the kid And it was so messed up man Because he was one of my closest homies, right? And I was like, all right? I remember

I saw this guy not that long ago Maybe like four or five years ago I run into this guy at Walmart at all the places. And I looked at him and I, in my mind, like, he looks at me. He knows who I am. We're older. You know, ain't got no hair. And I'm like, you fucking snitch you.

I still remember the shit you did to me. You know what I mean? Oh. All right. So let's go back to your buddy tells you guys, your dad's quash it. Right. So your dad's quash it. And then, so you keep going.

Your dad's like if you just if you just listen to half the shit your dad fucking told you I remember I remember my dad um so all right so let me let me rewind my father my father where we've been left Florida we're in New York and my father uh it's like that dude in our neighborhood my father grew up in that neighborhood so my father has a crew that works for him and I'm working for my father's crew. I'm just one of the guys in his crews, right? So now I'm, mind you, I like Miami more, but the money, the money was a lot faster

and quicker in New York, right? My father took me to New York kind of to show me the real, real ropes how this shit really, really, really works. I want to say New York is really where I got my hustle, the grind, you know what I mean? We're fucking, it could be a snowstorm, I still got guys in corners, I still got,

we got a quota to make. That's how corporate my father was with it, that we had a quota to reach. We're supposed to make $1,500 a day. You know what I mean? So we're in New York, and New York is rough, man. In New York, they got real gangsters. You got real people out there that they will,

they will shoot you for a corner that belongs to nobody. So I go to New York We go to New York because the The parole officer When my father gets out They were like, look If you don't leave Florida We're gonna find something to pin on you

To make sure you can never leave Florida My father was like, look That sounds like Florida Yeah, they were like My father was like oh he's like You got a brand new fucking house You got two brand new cars Got a $50,000 Rolex on your wrist

This is bro the pro-office who was like a redneck, inbred chewed tobacco. I remember he used to chew tobacco. That's the first time I saw somebody chew tobacco, right? And he goes, I'm going to tell you something. Boy, that how he's talking? I'm going to tell you something, boy,

if you don't leave Florida, voluntarily, I'm going to make sure you never leave Florida. I'm going to keep you in Florida. And my father was like, yo, we got to go. He's not playing. I saw it in his eyes. This guy means business. But, like, I would show up at 3 in the morning

and tell my father to drop a piss. And I'm like, yo, this guy's fucking coming every week, two or three times. It doesn't matter. He owns you. Bro, he opened the refrigerator. I remember one time he went in my room, bro. I was sleeping in the guy's like, he told him, my father, like, I need you to get up. And then I'm like, get up.

And this guy's searching my room looking for anything. I'm like, oh, man, this shit is crazy. When we left Florida, we go to New York, I saw New York, a whole different, was a whole different lifestyle. You know, New York, you do 15, 20 things in one day in Florida. You do three, maybe four of you're lucky. New York is a very fast pace. And New York, Queens and Queens, all the Colombians run with each other.

These people have been running with each other since the 80s. There's loyalty. There's principles. If you have a whole other neighborhood and you're going through a flood, they'll front you the work to get back on your feet. They look out for their people. You know, it's nobody over there. They don't want to rob each other.

They don't want to shit on each other. They don't want to snitch on each other. They believe in, you know, this could come back home to Columbia. That's kind of they bring it from the old motherland, right? I'm there. I'm still, I want to say that I was just a good hustler, but I became a mastermind in New York. I saw how to run things in corporate wise. Like, my father used to say all the time, like my father was always, like my father was

would always be dressed up. Like he was talking about buttoned down, tight pants, you know, ferro gama shoes. My father didn't look like a drug dealer in a corner. My father was like everybody, even if you're on a corner, you have to be dressed nice. You can't, you know, you can't look like with a big jacket, with a scully on your head. No, my father always like, you got to dress fit the part, so you don't look suspect. I go to New York. We start making money.

From New York is where I really start like, okay. now, fuck having four or five people work for me. Now I'm trying to, now I'm not trying. I get maybe like 10 people and they have people working for them, right? So I'm getting work from my family and I'm giving this guy like eight ounces here, five ounces here. So they would give me, let's say, five keys, right? On Monday.

By Tuesday, the five keys will be gone. People are like, damn, he was pushing keys. Yeah, I was pushing 10, 10, 12 keys in a week. but it wasn't like that. Yeah, I would get the work, but it would take me longer to break it up, to pass it out than it was to get it or to sell it. You know what I mean?

And it was a good rapport. Like, let's say I was, let's say, I owed $150,000 to the people on top of me. I'd make $300,000 from one hand to another. So I'd pay back to $150,000 and pocket the rest of the money. It came to a point that in Colombia, So there was a family that they were powerful. There were a powerful family.

And back in the 80s, the father shited on my uncle. He owed my uncle some money, allegedly, right? You just didn't pay him. Yeah, like never paid him. It was some work that never got paid. Mind you, my uncle's dead. That gentleman, per se, is dead the one that owed the money. But now his daughter following the family business.

And she's big time. So I remember there was we were waiting to get some work and there was some shit going on. It didn't come in. It got knocked off. Something happened where we weren't able to get it in time and we had a demand for it. So my father is such a mastermind. He goes and asks this lady to front him the work. So I go to pick up the work from the lady.

I get the work. The lady comes up brings me the work. So even though my father would go, I'll give my son and his people the work, I got you back. I get the work. I'm moving the work. I'm waiting for my stuff to come in. The deal was when my stuff came in, I was going to just, we were going to give her. What she gave us, we're just going to give her right back with an extra on top.

I don't know what happens. We have a family member that comes from Columbia. He's one sandwich short of a picnic basket. He's not all there. And he goes and he starts talking that. story about how that girl's father never paid my uncle. It was like 20 keys or something like that. But he's dead now.

They're both dead. My uncle's dead and the girl. So we should have kind of left it like what happened, happened. That has nothing to do with us. This is my father. Oh, well. And I'm like me, me trying to like impress my father and impress my inner circle. I said, fuck that we ain't paying the shit.

I said, I'm going to, I'm going to take this shit on my uncle's face. I'm like, no, but that's not how business works. I got it up to the point that I got everybody robbed up. It was like, what's that movie with Denzel Washington, the Titans, the football movie? Yeah. I was coaching everybody. I said, fuck that. You know, who do they think that they are?

I said, even though they're dead, that that's still old. So now, I remember I called, I called the lady back and I told them, look, I need another five. because I already knew where I was going with it. Right. And I went behind my father's back. I didn't tell my father nothing. My father like, no, we're going to pay her. I told everybody like, fuck that.

He's getting soft. He's getting older. I said, eventually I'm the one that's going to have to say all the calls and we're not paying her back. That makes us look soft. Back then, the soprannals were on. So I wanted to be Tony. I was like, no, that's going to make us look soft.

Bro, tell me why I call this woman. And she comes and she brings me to work. brings me another five and I'm there where my dad's right-hand man and two of my guys and I sit here and I'm like, I'm going to say it to your face I'm taking this shit from you

and I'm taking it because of this, this, this, this, this. And she's looking at me like, are you crazy? I just looked out for you. I was good to you and now you're going to come and tell me you're going to shit on me and you're going to just take my shit. She goes, you think I'm just going to let you take my shit. She just gave me the work.

The work we're stealing. in the same location. I said, yeah, I'm going to say it to your face. This is from my uncle. She goes, you sure you want to do this? I said, yeah, go. The next day, I get a call from one of my workers. They run up on one of my workers.

They beat the shit out of a guy that worked for me. Beat him up. They took everything he had on him. And she was in the car watching this shit go down. He goes, tell him that it's going to get worse. And we don't even want the work. back. So now my father called me like, what did you

do? You're going to start a war. And I'm like, well, sometimes violence is necessary to control the peace, dad. You're getting soft. Imagine my dad. I never had a soft bone in his body. Right. My mother was the real gangster of the family, but that's a whole other episode.

I kind of messed up because I messed up because... It sounds like it's more than kind of. No, I messed up because now Now, it's, I'm too aimed to fall back because now I can't, I can't look soft. They just beat up one of my main dudes in front of everybody in the neighborhood. It happens, whatever, we start going to war with each other, us versus them, we start running up on each other, beating each other, beating each other up, running each other off the road, crazy shit.

You know what I mean? That's why I'm going to leave that. It got real, real, real ugly. to the point that I'm out of club in New York, in Queens, and I'm there with just one of my guys, and there's like seven of them show up, right? Mind you, I have, we have our weapons in the car, but we're surrounded.

We're inside, so I'm like, yo, we're not going to make it out. So I'm like, I'm like, listen, if we walk out through the front, they're going to get us. We walk out through the back, they're going to get us. I said, we're going to have to wait here all night. Listen, we're calling people. Back then it was the flip phones. So now I'm borderline shitting on myself, but I can't show no weakness.

I'm like, yo, listen, whatever, whatever happens, bro, we start throwing tables, chairs. I said, we're going to, well, my idea was like, we're going to run out through the front. We're going to split up. Whoever gets to the car first, grabs the gun and comes back and saves the other person, right? The guy's a big, fat dude, very sloppy, out of shape. 300-pound guy, he's like, look, bro, I'm not going to make it to the car. I'm not going to make it to the car. Right?

And I'm over here like, well, bro, listen, they're looking at me. They're waiting for me to bust the move. I said, they're on me. I said, if you can sneak off, go get that shit, bring it in the club. At least we have enough to defend ourselves. Now my guy starting to, even my employees are shitting on themselves with the story. I'm over here calling my father. Me and my dad are beefing because of that situation.

My dad, now he's like, oh, you want to be a gangster? Yeah. So now you're going to take care of this beef on your own. So now this is a situation that if my dad shows up I would have been like, yo, we're good because my dad's really living like that. It ends up happening that me and this fat dude, there's a bunch of people in the club

and there's a waitress that has a pepper spray. So I grabbed the pepper spray. I go to a corner of the club. I start spraying that pepper spray. Like I empty out the whole, the shit you spray somebody with and I pressed a fire alarm. I pressed a fire alarm. and this is how smart shit was.

I remember that I fucking, I got out the shit. I went under a car and then into some bushes, and I'm there, and I'm watching them looking for me everywhere. I lost my friend, and I said, bro, just get out of here. They're looking for me. I go and I call Columbia. I call the old man. I call Jorge.

And I'm like, yo, listen, these motherfuckers, they were going to ductate me. They were going to get me. One of the waitresses calls me later on. on that night. I said, listen, they have a reward for you. They have $25,000, pretty much dead or alive. I'm like, what? I'm like, dead or alive? I said, I'm not dying. I said, that's when, when she called me and told me that, I said, yo, listen, I'm calling, I'm calling Columbia. I don't care what they think. I don't care what they say. I'm calling for backup. I called, um, wait a minute. What happened with the pepper spray? What is the pepper spray?

I grab the, you know, you know the shit that you make? I know what pepper spray? Yeah, yeah. I go to the corner of the club. I go to the club. I go to the pepper spray. I go to the I start spraying it. That smell gets all over the club. Oh, okay. I didn't understand that. No, no. It's a powerful smell.

I sprayed it and I pressed a fire alarm and people are thinking that something's going on, the smell. And I just... So people's eyes are burning. The fire alarm just went off. I remember. Maybe there was a fire. Who knows? But the smell was so...

Have you ever been pepper spraying? No, luckily. Me neither. But I've been tasered and that shit hurt. And they say pepper spray. It hurts three times more than the... So what I just... This was like some MacGyver shit.

I'm like, yo, it's either this or... Fat Boy, I'm going to make it to the car, and I'm not going to make it to the car. So what do I do? This is the hustler mentality. How am I going to get out of this? I'm not going to look soft. I'm not going to cop a plea. And I'm not going to let them...

I'm like, if I would have had a gun on me, it would have been a whole different story. But, bro, there's seven of them. Yeah. What am I going to do? You know what I mean? I thought outside the box. That's why I'm still alive. I thought outside the box.

So you spray the pepper spray. the fucking alarm. The club empties. Well, I got in the crowd with a bunch of people. Everybody's running through the front, the side, the back. I run out the back. And in New York, if you see, there's always a main street. Everywhere you go in New York, there's always a main street.

I just, I came out. There was bushes, a car. I jumped in the bush, and I just laid in the fucking bush for three hours. I did not. I was there. And when I saw three hours later, I just jumped out and got on my car and left. But then this is when I knew shit was real. Well, what you said?

Then you talked to a girl about... So a waitress, because I used to go to that club all the time. I was kind of one of my headquarters in Queens where I used to have the waitresses sell for me. You know what I mean? Oh, let's say they sold $500. I'll give them $250 for me, $250 for them. And I had like three waitresses there. But she called me, she says, yo, Alex, the shit is serious.

He goes, they have a $25,000 reward for you. They don't care if you're dead or alive. They said wherever you're at just to call and they will give the $25,000. So I call my dad. My dad already had heard. So my dad is acting tough, but my dad's already getting his soldiers, his troops. He's already planning what to do to retaliate. You know, like, yo, what's going to happen?

I don't know that, right? I'm over here trying to show face and trying not to lose no street credit or none of that because I can't look bad. I did something fucked up. Now I got to deal with the consequences. I caught Columbia and the old man tells me he goes, how serious is? I'm like, you know, first they're front of me something.

And then, you know, there's a story and he goes, well, you know, you shouldn't listen to stories. That's what got you in trouble. So this is when I knew the shit was real. My uncle, he can't come to America. he says tomorrow these two men are going to go see you they flew from Columbia to New York to come see me two dudes I told them everything

they met me up I told them everything boom boom boom not even 48 hours later they had a meeting with me with me my father and the lady and her uncle and we all sat down with those two people and my uncle in Columbus said listen if you guys touch my nephew he goes, I'll make sure everybody in your family disappears. He goes, you got to leave him alone.

And that's how, yo, they apologized to me. They shook my hand and they walked out the room. You didn't give him their stuff back? I think, hell, no, that shit was gone the same day she gave it to me. You owe him. No, you owe him. You owe them. Yo, listen, that shit, it was so much money there.

So that's when, that's when shit was hot that my father was like, you got to leave, you got to go back to Miami. That's not a good story. That's a bad story. No, it's... You didn't do the right thing. You should have paid her back. No, man.

But no, but I tell you, look, I'll tell you the irony of life. How God is real and karma's real. Years later, I'm in prison. Her son's in prison. He lands in my... In my... In my tier, my unit, in prison. Some guy comes to tell me, yo, that's...

Fulanito from Los Correas. The last name is Correa. He goes, that's Fulanito. Bump, Pong. Nephew. and I'm like, I'm like, ooh, I'm like, he's a fucking kid. And he was like, yeah, he got caught with some shit, boom, boom, boom. That's the girl who I took, the lady who I took her shit.

That's her son. So you went and got him some commissary, some shower slides. It's not even that. They were trying to fuck this. I could curse, right? Yeah. They were trying to, he's very fragile, good looking kid, handsome. weighed maybe 120 pounds wet.

Didn't stand the chance. Didn't stand the chance. The guy looked like a model. When I find out who he is, there's already a dude. Like, yo, I'm going to get you. You're like, that's mine. I go and I say, your mom is this, this and that. This is where you come from.

We start talking. Now, mind you, at that time, in prison, I got power. I'm with Rivi. I'm with El Profel, which he was a head boss. He went down in the 80s, but he ran the cartel. And in Elbaille of Columbia, when I'm like, I'm over here like, damn, the irony of life, bro. You know, I don't know the kid. From a hole in the wall, I went and I talked to the black dude who was going to rip him.

The black dude was just waiting for the right time, the right day to get him. It was only the kid had been on the compound for less than a week. I said, here, call your mother. You know what I mean? And the kid was like, okay, calls his mother. And I go on out. The lady's name is Anina. I go and I talk to her.

I said, look, it's me. Boom, boom, boom. It's Bobby's son. She didn't know whether to tell me, fuck you or to be like, oh, shit. You know, I said, listen, you know, back then I was wild, young and dumb. You see, karma's real. I'm here. I'm doing five years.

I said, this is what I'm going to do for you. I said, they want to get your son. Like, yeah, she was trying to put, like, a protective custody. She was telling her son, get me people to call me, and I will pay for them to protect you. like a rent. You know how it is. Yeah. There's people that pay $500 a month to be protected in prison and people

pay it. But I protected him on some love because I felt like I'm going to clean my face with the mother. You know what I mean? And I brought him under my wing. And it was kind of a thing that we almost got into it with these people. But once they saw that it was us, the guy's like, oh,

but you know how it is in prison. The white stick with the whites, the Spanish, but the Spanish if you're gang banging, there's certain gangs that ride with each other, things like that. So I just He hung him under my arm. And to make the story better, man, I feel that if it wasn't for me, man, he would have went in as a tight end. What is it? He came in as a tight end and he left as a wide receiver.

Come on. He came in as a tight end and he left as a wide receiver. Oh, listen, I feel that. Hey, I clean my face. All right. So you go back to Miami. I go back to Miami. Right.

And I come back to Miami and this is before me going to prison. Yeah, yeah. I come back to Miami and... Your dad said, or your dad, they were like, you got to go back to Miami. Well, my father's about to get off of parole. Parole in New York didn't fuck with him at all. They got so much shit going on in New York. But his parole officer was a lady now, very understanding.

She just wanted him to win. Single father, he's taking care of his boys. Me and my brother, I go back to Miami, man, and I just take off. I just bring all the other traits and the, and the, things that I've learned in in New York. I bring them to Miami. And I'm still getting it from my family. And I just, from one minute to another, it's a family business.

So now I got other people involved in it, other family members. And we're just doing it like the Walmarts. You know what I mean? It's where we all have our positions and we're all just making money. What I was doing was, I was out of my cousins and my family. And this is why I believe that I got caught. They're very low-key. You know what I mean?

They don't flash. I was the Rolex, Mercedes. Yeah, it's El Chapo versus El Mayo model. You know, my cousin's still in the game. My cousin's been in the game for what? 30 years and never had a traffic ticket. And now he does everything legit. He's in the cannabis business.

You know what I mean? but he's never had a traffic ticket, has a gun license, never been to jail, nothing. My father used to tell me, too, like, I don't know, it was just the matching hats with the, it was just the New York swagger. And my father one time was like,

that causes attention, bro, attention that you don't need. He goes, you have a $50,000. When I got a dad at the couple's like, I was like, oh, I'm a, I come from a rich family. He goes, you're in a million-dollar house. You're wearing a $5,000. $50,000 watch. You have five cars outside of your house and you don't have a fucking job.

For how long? What do you work at? Oh, I'm this, that up. Look, we know everything, bro. When they came and they got me, when the feds came and got me, I'm over here like, oh, that's not my father. He's a sperm donor. And I've never met him.

He's a bad father. I'm over here. You know what I mean? And they were like, and your uncle? Oh, no, that's just my bloodline. But I don't know none of those people. And when they threw the picture of me and my godfather, me and Columbia, getting off a helicopter, hugging him, and I'm in Columbia.

I said, these motherfuckers must have been in a tree and a mountain. When they showed me that picture, bro, mad, I turned gay for two minutes. My brother, I said, how the fuck did they get a picture of me in Columbia? So how do we get there? So you're saying, yeah. Yeah. All right. So I'm getting money, right?

We're starting to do what I started to do was I started the local Miami strip clubs, the booby trap, the original booby trap. I start, what I started doing, start going to the strip clubs, and I started giving strippers blow, right? So now, you know, every club has like a local drug dealer. Yeah. Or a pimp that has his women there. What I do is I go directly to the drug dealer and directly to the pimper, say, listen, this is what I am, this is what I do. Whatever you're getting it at, I'll beat that price.

Oh, no, I'm like, all right, try my shit to your shit. Apples to oranges all day. And it worked. It worked. Back then, everybody was doing it blow. So I got to the point, man, that I would bribe the owners. The original owner of Boobie Trap, the fuck was his name, Mark. Was it Mark?

He was an Italian guy. of a heart attack. The original owner of booby trap was my guy. Italian mob was my dude. So he let me get away with murder in the strip clubs and he owned five.

So I would get high with this guy. It's just a crazy irony of story that I took over the hottest clubs in Miami. So what I started to do was I started to get with the celebrities. Started hanging out with celebrities. And now these people, yeah, they were getting,

but I'm getting this shit straight from Columbia, bro. I'm getting, pure, it looks like crystals. Now the shit that's in Miami, bro, it gives you diarrhea, but that's a whole other story. It has more bacon, sort of than fucking it. But the stuff that I was getting, and I was just grabbing it from one hand, I wasn't, there's people that are savages, bro.

There's people that'll grab one kilo of pure and grab two kilos of cut and make three, which is unethical. You know what I mean? But can I say that? I don't know. Unethical. But okay.

I'm pretty sure the entire drug industry is unethical. Yeah, yeah. It's bad. But very bad. But it was just, I was just a good business man in that sense. I was like,

look, bro, I have the best. I'm going to give you the best price and I'm not going to touch it. You do what you want with it. But I'm going to give it to you at this price. And then it just, it just took off.

I just, I started dealing with celebrities, certain, somebody's. I don't want to name names because, you know what I mean? I was around,

I could tell you the people that I was around, you know, the Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, all the big stars, I was there. I had the best, the best work in Miami at that time. You know what I mean? And I just took office as the celebrity, the celebrity drug dealer. So I'm selling to all the strippers. I start going outside my means because now I remember a family member asked me for a favor, right? somebody owed the money and um i have a i have a real tight knit circle and i send the guy to get beat up

right the guy that owes the money for a family member i send the guy to get beat up allegedly allegedly got to say allegedly and the guy gets beat up real bad but um a week later the guy pulls up the money so now you know i got i got paid very very handsomely for that and i'm like damn but i'm doing all types of stuff you know i'm selling to celebrities um i'm win the strip club And this is when there was MySpace. Right. You know, this is my space. So now people don't understand that you get indicted for likes.

You know, you're indicting yourself. But I'm over here popping bottles and the whole thing, right? I'm doing super good. I sent at the time who I thought was a loyal soldier. I sent him, there was a dude that had a gambling debt. And they had called me from Columbia told me, you, oh, look, this guy owes this much money. Boom, boom, boom.

can you handle it? I said, yeah, I got it. Don't worry about it. I send this guy over there. He goes to shake up the dude. He ends up taking a Rolex. The guy's a jeweler. The guy's a big jeweler, but he's a junkie. He's a guy, he's a gambling degenerate, right? And the guy goes, my so-called friend goes over there with people. And they end up, they end up taking stuff from the dude that they weren't supposed to. He takes a Rolex, a presidential a bunch of Rolex that had a serial number he sells a 150,000 dollar watch online on eBay or something like that. The guy, the guy's a retard. The guy sold the watch to an undercover online for like 20,000. When he goes to sell the guy the watch, it's a sting operation in a

hotel. They get him, how did you get this watch when it was, this was traced to a home invasion the guy saying that somebody ran up in my house duct tape me and and took my jewelry right which was not the case but that's what he told the cops yeah trying to get claim on insurance exactly um i didn't know nothing about this for real friday i don't know he took he took this guy's watch all i know was that the guy paid and and that's it this guy the one that takes the watch from the jeweler, right? He, um, he ends up getting pinched by the feds,

and he told the feds, listen, I work out of deal with you guys. Um, you guys don't want me, man, I'm just, a servant. I'll show you who the boss is.

Because he's facing a home invasion charge, which is like, fucking 15, 10 to 15 years minimum. There's still, now, I think it's our life sentence now. Now, yeah, if you run up this. It's a state.

If it's a state, I think you're getting, you're getting in a, you're getting in a, you're getting, you're getting, it depends on what you did once you were there.

You ducked them and all that other stuff? Yeah, they charged them with kidnapping. Yeah, you're 25. Yeah, because they tied them. Yeah, a bunch of PPLs, whatever, right? So this guy, saw the watchtow and undercover. The undercovers are the feds.

They grabbed this guy. This guy said, look, you guys don't want me. I got something better for you guys. He goes, I got the nephew of bum, bum, bum. He goes, this guy works directly for the cartel. He goes, you guys don't want me. He goes, you guys. I'll turn him in.

The feds didn't know nothing about me. Nobody knew nothing about me. I was an amazing little. Some people thought I was a rapper or something because I had the jewelry, the cars, the women, living the lifestyle. Well, my so-called friend, the one that got caught, he starts working with the feds to bring me in, to get me.

Make a long story short, this guy works for the feds for like two years. against me, bro. Is he wearing a wire, the whole thing? Bro, this is the whole situation. I was so high most of the time that I didn't want to talk. I'm high as a kite, man. I don't want to talk about nothing, you know what I mean?

But they didn't have me on the wire fraud. They had me. My charges were money laundering and threatening witnesses. Or they tried to hit me with organized crime. It wasn't Rico back then. But they were trying to make it seem. I'm like, when they found out who I was, they were like, okay, we'll get this kid, young, he's going to turn on everybody.

When they came, when they got me, they were talking about you're going to do 25 to life. And that's when I remember, I'm looking at the corner of the room and I'm like, look, I need a lawyer, I need a lawyer. They're like, well, they're not even respecting the rights. They're like, look, fuck a lawyer. You're going to go to prison. We'll get your witness protection. And this is 2000. Wait a minute.

Let's go back. let's go back to the guy the guys working with the feds with what? I don't know that. FBI or DEA. All I know that he was working with the feds. Okay, okay. So he's working with them. Did he end up getting

like he's wired up? He's getting conversations with you. Well, the discoveries and everything what my lawyer told me was he wore a wire a few times, but he didn't have nothing to incriminate me. It was nothing that he could use in court against me. So there was never nothing that he got me with a wire.

That wasn't what he got me with. What he got me was conspiracy, which is a conspiracy situation. But he was working out of deal with them that if I, if he would turn me in, he wouldn't go to prison or something like that. I don't know what the hell happened that my mother, mind you, my father looks at him like a son. My mother looks at him like a son. My mother had a nightmare with this guy.

My mother comes and tells me, the guy's already working with the feds. My mother calls me and says, I need to talk to you. I'm like, what's going on? She goes, that guy's going to turn on you. The guy, the guy who really was turning on me, really was the...

He'd already turned on you. He already had turned on you. My mother said she had a dream with him, and she saw him sticking a knife in my back. and I just he was acting he had been acting funny it was just things

weren't adding up with him he was living in one of my houses he was just doing a lot of a lot of things that weren't adding up so I started to cut him off little by little but he knew too much you know what I mean to just cut him off automatically right

when he noticed that that I was cutting him off was when I got I got surrounded I got arrested he told he told I told, well, how'd you get arrested? All right.

So, let me tell you the whole thing. All right, so I'm working with my father. My father's in Miami where we're all doing, we're all allegedly selling drugs, right? I had a house that I would, we would just use to count money. A lot of people thought that I lived there, but I really didn't live there. It's a stash house. That was my stash house, but I would stay there sometime. It was a party house.

After the strip club, everybody would go to that house. You know, it was really the strip club. So I had that house and me and my father lived in another house Maybe like 45 minutes away, right? I remember that that one night I was at I was at the strip club And I saw when I left there was a white guy there It was just it didn't add up

It was a white guy with a black dude They were like British The black guy was British and I'm like this Miami bro And they kept trying to talk to me And the guy sent me a bottle of shank campaign and I'm like, oh, why are you sending me a bottle? Like, I don't even know you. So, it kind of wrote me the wrong way.

That day, I wasn't getting fucked up. It's the crazy part about it. I was sober. And I end up leaving the club, and when I leave, they leave. So I start feeling something. I start, like, watching my back now when I'm driving. My mother tells me about that nightmare that she had with this dude. I start noticing little things or not adding up. Now I'm sending him to do things, but he doesn't want to do him.

You know what I mean? He's not as consistent as he once was to me, right? And it's crazy. You had a guy on your show here. I don't want to put his name out there, but they were cool. So the guy was on your show, and that guy used to work for, he was real good friends. He used to put in work also for the guy that was here on your show. So this guy was a credible.

somebody. Make a long story short, how it all comes to an end. They got me on a drug sale, supposedly. They got me giving an ounce to a stripper. Now, this is how it all changed with time. The video shows me giving her something, but she wasn't apprehended at that moment with the drugs. They see me giving her something. Right. From a distance. It wasn't even like how me and you are right now soda it's from here a block away they seen handing her something which we could we could take this to trial any day or the week and um she ends up turning on me too but that was later down the road that was just one of the pieces to the puzzle and it didn't stick in court because she was a drug addict had problems with um where her children with um what do you call it DCF and all of this so my

my lawyer chewed that up um so i get i'm going into my house mind you i have my mother, I have my whole family in my house. And I remember at that time, the Miami heat had LeBron James and Dwayne Wade. So I'm wearing the LeBron jersey. He had just come to the team. This is like 04. No. No, it's like 06 or something.

I think it's 06. It's 06. So I have a 745 BMW, right? And I'm driving with the windows open, with the sunroop open. I always kept a gun in the middle of the console because to rewind back, I always kept a gun there. I'm living in Kendall, right?

And I see a SUV, a pickup truck. The SUV, a pickup truck, and a station wagon, all the same color, all silver, dark, dark, tinted window. Mind, you have an illegal gun in the middle of my console, right? when I live in the hammocks in Kendall, so there's a street that you turn. When I turn, as I'm driving,

I'm cleaning the gun with my jersey. I'm cleaning it. I said, they have to be on the covers. When we hit a corner, I slung it. It gave me maybe like nine to ten seconds to hit the corner without a car being behind me. That's when I slunk the gun out the sunroof. As soon as I come into my complex,

I get surrounded by all. A bunch of cops from everywhere. I thought it was a robbery. I was hoping it was a robbery because I've never seen a cop with a ski mask. They had ski mask. FBI, two of them said ATF. They had assault rifles. When I come in, so there's a security gate in my complex.

So I come in through a security gate. Four cars come through the front and those three cars block me from the back. I live maybe five houses in the complex. to the left from the security gate, when I get surrounded, the first thing I do, I put the car in park, I see a dude with an AR-15 just pointing it. Put your hands up, but he has a mask.

So in my mind, I'm like, oh, bro, this is a robbery. They're robbing me. Because I had, like, four chains, Rolex, bracelet, et cetera, Miami shit. When I see the guns and then I see the FBI shirts, I said, no robbery, bro. They throw me on the floor I'm screaming from my mother

I'm like mom get this on camera They throw me on the floor When they have me there When they have me there I remember one of the causes of Cuban Spanish Cop he goes to me and goes look In 15 20 minutes you're going to have Miami Dave you're going to have the Kendall police here

What do you have here That you don't want them to find And we'll make it disappear I said make it disappear I said, well, listen, I have, which was really a headstash, I had in my, my night stand, I had maybe like nine ounces below. I had a, I had almost a million dollars in cash in the closet. I had $989,000, no, $998,000 and all 20s, hundreds and tens in my closet and shoeboxes of Jordan, right? and then I had an AK-47 in my house that it wasn't that I used it for protection,

but it was kind of like it was gold-plated, and it had my initials on the side of it. So I just used to have it upstairs just to have it, but it was a use, it was a real gun. You can shoot it. I tell the guy everything, I'm like, yo, look, I got the drugs there. I got the assault rifle, and I have money in the closet. I said, and all the shoe box. all the way in the top. These guys, I remember that when I would go traveling,

I would have Louis Vuitton, the set, you know, the book bag, the duffel bag, the little thing with the wheels, these people, the Cuban cop and another cop, they went inside the house. They weren't on my cars, too. They go inside the house. I see them walking out.

What were like four of my suitcases. Took all the money. They took the assault rifle. They took the drugs. And I remember, I remember. At Medcan, we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health, from the big milestones to the quiet winds. That's why our annual health assessment offers a physician-led, full-body checkup

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My whole family's there. I go and I told the cop, I said, I'm bleeding against the thing. And I'm like, yo, what is this for? I said, I think you guys have the wrong person. As soon as they put all the stuff in the police, in the unmarked car, right? Like 15 minutes later, Miami Day shows up.

Day County Police, detectives, boom, boom. The Cuban cop put everything in the trunk of that car. And I remember the guy left like a 50 of Coke in my bathroom when he just took nine ounces of coke out of my dresser. They charged me with that 50 of Coke too, by the way. That was one of my charges. When the guy puts everything in literally like 10 to 15 minutes later, the Day County police show up.

Right. Right. The Cuban guy's partner gets in the car and drives off in the unmarked car with all the shit in the trunk. Right. So I'm leaning up against the thing. And I'm like, oh, shit. I remember I have something else. And the guy was like, well, listen, I need you to give me your jewelry.

Mind you. And my jewelry, I probably had now. Now the number is probably $250, maybe $300,000 in jewelry. In Cuba-linked chains. Bro, the guy took off all my chains. Took off all my day. They were the ones to hang over. He took off all my chains and put them all in his pocket. Took off my watch.

My bracelet. I was like, yo, it was a bad day. But I feel that I kind of bought myself out of maybe a life sentence of prison, maybe 25, 30 years. Just the assault rifle alone. Fuck the money. The nine ounces of blow, you know, and I, and I, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I say the assault rifle probably would have got me 20. Easy.

Right. You know what I mean? I was already a convicted felon at that point. So I say this to say that that that's what happened with that situation. When they bring me, they actually bring me directly to the row. This is when I knew shit was serious. They didn't bring me to no police station. They brought me directly to the FBI barracks.

And they weren't trying to do good cop, bad cop. No, they had two bad cops. You know what I mean? These guys were straight, and I'm like, I don't know. They start showing me pictures and all types of things. And I'm like, I don't know that guy. I don't know that guy. And they're showing me all my family.

I'm talking about, well, put you in protective custody. Like, protective custody from whom? My family? What about Thanksgiving? Right. What about Christmas? You got up going to protect me from my father, my brother, my uncles. I'm like, but I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm playing victim. I'm looking up at the, I remember I kept looking at had a hole in the ceiling of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the holding cell, of the interrogation room. Interrogation room. I remember I kept looking up at that whole saying, they're lying. They're lying.

They don't know nothing. I kept saying lawyer. I remember they had me in there for like 15 hours. I'm like, I need a lawyer, lawyer, lawyer. And they're like, fuck a lawyer. We want to know this, this. And I'm like, that's not my father. He's a sperm donor.

Never met that, man. So they gave me an AC warrant. You know what AC warrant is? No. they, I needed to show the money for the day gave me a million dollar bond, right? Actual cash? What's the AC? I have to show where the money comes from.

Okay. So it was a million dollar bond. So the money for me to get out on bond, the $100,000, it needed to show where it came from the businesses. So it took maybe like a month and a half for my family to get the right paperwork to show, look, this came, 30 came from this business. this came from that, whatever, whatever. When I get out, I get out on Bond. The two detectives that were there, I kept saying, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

You guys are crazy. This shit will never stand. I'm not going to do a day in jail. When I get out, when I get out, my father's there with his lawyer. And the two detectives are there standing waiting for me to get out. When I walk out, the detective said, I thought you didn't know your father. I thought it was a sperm donor.

And I laughed, and I said, I'm not going to jail. I said, you guys, you guys wasted your time. And my father was like, don't talk. Don't talk to them. The attorney, they'd be quiet because I'm talking shit now. I just bonded out. I'm like, ah, you guys thought you guys could hold me and this, this, this and that. But the detectives waited for me to get out.

The FBI is waited for me to get out. It rolled, we rolled that case, but I want to say I fought that case for like three years. You know what I mean? And I kept going to Columbia. I would go to Columbia like once every two weeks, three weeks. And I actually thought about running to Columbia. I was going to, I thought about it. You know what I mean?

But being American, Colombia is a beautiful place, man. But there's no in, no way out. That's where you got to be at all times. I just, I was kind of planting my seeds. I had a fake pass support. I had to fake everything. I could have came in and out as many times as I wanted. But, you know, my father told me, look,

you're going to have to go sit down for a while. You did this, you got to, you made your bed, you got to lie in it. And that's kind of where, where I don't know if you saw in the other interview that they did a sit down. They ordered a sit down from Columbia with me when I caught this whole charge that I was out on bond and I didn't think I was going to come back from that from that meeting on top of dayland mall so you went to columbia i went to columbia right i was out on bond they were trying to take my my pass support um but i already i already had uh back then they took um

they when i got out on bond they took they took my original pass supports but i went and i had a i had another pass support and another id so i didn't fly to miami i I caught the Greyhound bus to Georgia. And from Georgia, I flew to Columbia. I didn't fly directly out of Miami International. And I got to Columbia. And, you know, I told that, I told my family, I'm like, look, bro. Worst comes to worse.

I come over here and fucking eat out of Epa's and live in the jungle. And I'm not going to go to prison. I said, and if I do go to prison, it is what it is. I said, my first offense, my first real, real serious charges, what are they going to give? Ten? I said, I'll go sit down for ten. It is what it is. I'm not going to tell on no family business.

And my family believes me. They said, all right. When I come back, I come back to Miami. Like three months later, now we're starting to, like, get the discoveries. We're getting ready. You know, we're trying to see what are the offers, what they know, what they don't know, what we could use, what we can't use if we're going to take this to trial. I had one of the top three lawyers in Florida.

I had Jack Black. You ever heard of Jack Black? Roy Black. Roy Black. You're going to come to fucking court in the helicopter. I remember, bro, the money that the feds didn't take. I spent it on his ass. Very expensive, but very, very effective.

The first lawyer that I got, he was like, oh, I can't get you less than 10. I said, what? He said, yeah, you got some real serious charges. The best I could do is 10. I said, you're fired. I said, you're fired. So when we went to talk to Roy, Roy said, if you don't got $50,000 right now,

there's nothing to talk about. He goes, I guarantee you less than five. Easy. Maybe probation, house arrest. But I need $50,000. I remember I had $25,000 on me cash that day. I left the $25,000 and he looked at me like, I was poor. But $25,000 on his desk.

And he looked at me like, what's this? I said 50. I said, give me a week. I'll bring you the other 25. And, bro, that guy, bro, I remember when we went to court, I never seen a lawyer hugged the judge. Like, you know, when you see your best friend

and you run into him at your CVS, your local CVs, like, bro, how are you been? And he fucking, he hugged the judge, and he looked at me, and he glimpsed his eye. That's just, so that's what the $50 for. Right. But, no, I believe if it wasn't for him, I probably would have got more time.

I did five, you know what I mean? But I believe if I would have went with somebody else, and I probably would have gotten 15, 13, easy. Yeah, everybody. And the feds dropped it. And the feds dropped it. That was another thing, which if I know now, what I knew then, I would have rather gone to the feds.

For five, yeah. For five, it's fucking. But, you know, there's two people in the feds. There's people who told the people who wish they told. You know, the numbers that they're throwing out now, unless they're throwing crazy numbers Yeah So but you know

When the feds the feds ended up dropping the case It kind of had to do it with the way he was going about the case The feds were like they just dropped it And the state picked it up and then you know what I mean We just fought it We fought it, we fought it, a father to fodder and came to a point That I was like, all right, let's do I'll take the five So where'd you do the five years?

Right here at Punta Gorda As a matter of fact I had to come to come here, man. I got goosebumps, bro. Like, I was half asleep. You could see the prison from the expressway. And I'm there with my guy, my guy, I'm like, look, that's where I did three years in prison right there. So we got to get out of here quick.

Yo, I'm doing like 80. I sped up to like 120 just to get out of that area. I did, um, Punta Gora, I did three. And I did three there. And then I did another, another two in Tampa and Hardy. It is what it is, man You know, you live and you learn Did when you got released

They said you're like a halfway house Yeah, yeah, yeah You know, it's crazy Because I was in the halfway house With the guy from Ward Dogs The little fat guy Um The one that Jonah Hill plays him

Yeah, yeah, F from Devereoli There you go Super good dude I don't know how he did in prison Because he was scared of shit In the halfway house But um Good dude

I saw him not that long ago I saw him maybe like a year and a half ago A year ago I saw him He came to my restaurant in Winwood. Yeah, I did like a year with him in the, uh, uh, the low at Coleman. Right. I wrote his memoir.

Wow. He, uh, it's crazy, man, because they make him seem so tough on, um. Oh, no, bro. He's fucking humble as apple pie, man. He won't hurt a fly. Jonah Hill makes him look. Yeah, yeah. Soft and cuddly.

He's actually, like, I mean, you knew him in the halfway house. Like, I've seen him in action. He's, he's a horrible person, bro. I mean, he may have been great with you? You might think he's all right. No, no, no, I mean, like. He'll argue about anything. No, I just mean he's not this tough guy that, like, no, no.

I'm sorry, but I didn't think he was tough in war dogs, just kind of a scoundrel. But, you know, he is kind of arrogant a little bit. A little bit. A little bit to the point that you see with me, he was never like, I don't know, I didn't open that door to give him the opportunity to be arrogant. To be arrogant, man, you know, I have a short fuse, but with me, but he is arrogant. The whole thing. But, you know, when I saw him, he came and he gave me, oh, hey, how you been?

How's everything? And I'm like, yo, that fucking movie blew up. And I was like, I was like, yo, did you make money on the movie? And he was like, kind of. I'm like, bro, they had to make money on that movie. That movie was. He made money in the lawsuit. He sued Warner Brothers.

Wow. Because the movie's actually David Packow's. That's David Packow's version of their story. That was the other guy. Yeah. So he sold his life rights to Warner. Brothers, they made the movie. And then Devereoli got out and sued Warner Brothers and they settled with him.

And so he got a check from that. And then I sued Devoroli and then we settled. Really? Oh, listen, I brought, I can't get in it right now, but I mean, I trust me, it's a whole fucking thing. Like I was in there with him. I wrote the fucking story. He wrote his memoir. He published it.

He sued Warner. Then I sued him. Yeah, he was with me. We were there at the halfway house in TGK in Miami. Yeah. Yeah, I got out and sued him and settled the case, went down to Miami and negotiated. And he and I had a, we negotiated a settlement at the Pink Pony, yelling each other back and forth over the fucking strippers.

I'm fresh out of the halfway house. Wow. I was living in someone's spare room. Wow, fresh out. Yeah. Yeah, he's made a ton of money. He's making tons of money. right now. I don't even know what he's doing now. I do. He's uh, just me. I know, I know it's not legal.

No, it's legal. Yeah, yeah. What he does is he buys, um, so if you have a lawsuit, let's say you got to a car accident and the lawyer saying, hey, it's, it's worth a million dollars. And he comes in and he's like, look, I can give you a hundred thousand right now, right now. And I'll take half the settlement or whatever the, I don't know what the terms are, whatever it is, I promise you. And he's just fucking making tons of money. Plus, I'm sure he's got 10 other things he's doing. Listen, there's one thing about him. He's a hustler. I mean, on it all the time, nonstop, 24 hours a day, hustling, arguing about every single thing.

He doesn't feel he's, he doesn't negotiate a deal where he doesn't come out on top. Right. Every single time. It's a horrible. It's horrible. I'm not saying there's anything, nothing wrong with that. That's a bad way to do business. You know what I mean?

He doesn't feel good. Right. unless he feels he screwed the other guy over. That's bad business, though. That is bad business. But that's how he is. And he's one of those guys who will tell you like, look, where, you know, I'd sit there. I go, yeah, bro.

But I mean, how many bridges are you burning? And he goes, yeah, he goes, there's lots of bridges. Wow. He's not worried about running out of bridges to burn. That's crazy. But so when you got out, what did you do when you were? So how long are we in the halfway house? A year.

A year? Yeah. Man, I got seven months. I did, uh, I did 13 years. I got seven months. Yeah, I did. You got lucky. I did a year. Did you do it the whole time in the halfway house? Did you go home on home confinement? No, well, they, they, I didn't get to go home at all. I don't think that's bad. I didn't, I didn't really, I didn't want to go home.

No, see, everybody wants to go home. I didn't want to because the way I looked at it. Is it set up? No, there was just no way I was going to. I know it sucks in the halfway house. Like everybody just, it sucks. One, I didn't really have any place to go. And two, I think, I was given 25% of my gross to the halfway house. And it was like, these guys are robbing us. Where the fuck am I going to live where they're feeding me three times a day? I have a roof over my head. Like, you see what I'm like, I'm 25% of what I make.

Like, it's not a bad deal. But are you from me or you're from Miami? No, you're from Brown. No, I was in Tampa. I was in the Tampa halfway house. I live in Tampa, but I didn't have anywhere to go. Keep mind, the only person I had where I could go to is. But you're originally from Browell.

right? No, I'm from Hilver. I'm from here. I'm from Tampa. Oh, so you're from Tampa? Yeah. But I don't, but it's been third, I was on the run three years. I was in prison for 13. My mother lives in a retirement community. Can't go there. I refuse to go live with my sister. And then, you know, who else have I got? Like what? My ex-wife? I'm pretty sure her new husband doesn't want me to live in their spare room. Right, right, right. It barely tolerates me now. When I say, hi, I say, hey, what's up? He goes, I'm one of those. But, uh, yeah, so I had nowhere to And I was able to save money. And I also worked 70, 80 hours a week, right?

Like I was able to make minimum wage, 70, 80 hours a week, working at a gym. So it wasn't bad. I was able to just stockpile as much money as I can. Right. And work on, you know, my ultimate kind of, I had a couple of different goals. And, you know, you got to work on all of them, right? Like, you got to bust your ass. And you spent how, you spend what?

You spent what, three, four years laying in bed, daydreaming about what you were going to do when you got out? You know, you know, it's crazy, man. Now that I've been out, I think 12 years. I've been out 12, 13 years. And I don't want to say I don't feel the same hunger anymore. You know, I think once you get out and you make so much money legally, you know, I just, I don't want to say I'm content, you know what I mean? I'm not content, you know.

But when I got out, man, I was a motherfucker. I didn't stop, bro. I had this comment. Did you hear, have I told you? Did I tell you this? I had this conversation with Jess as my wife literally four or five days ago. Wow. We were sitting on the couch.

We were talking about working out. We haven't worked out in six months. We're eating like dog shit. It's fucking horrible. We're both laying in there after we just eaten a ton of food complaining, watching TV, complaining. And I looked at her and I said, I am so undisciplined. I said, do you have any fucking? idea. I said, I was a beast when I got out of the halfway house. I was waking up at four in the

morning, jogging three miles, going to the gym. I'm starting my day at six or seven in the morning when everybody's still waking out, rolled out of bed, but working until eight or nine o'clock at night, going to bed, starting it over again, and doing it every single day, I'm working every single day, and I did that for years. Let me tell you, when I got out, I want to do a thousand push-ups a day. But once I started making money, that you started making money, and that enthusiasm drops down, the discipline drops down. We're disgusted.

My wife and are disgusted with ourselves. Disgusted. But I told her, I said, do you understand? I said that all of my enthusiasm and discipline has just seeped out of me. She said, we got to do something. We got to get back. When I got out, I remember I would do a thousand push-ups a day. I would wake up at 5, 6, go for a jog.

I would watch what I ate. Everything was like a routine. When you start making money, you just forget about the fundamentals. You forget about, you know, the count time. And, you know, keep your bunk made. The other day, I was in a rush. And I remember I left the – my wife makes the bed every morning. And I remember I was in a rush.

She already had left. And I remember I left, I just left what I'm making the bed. And I come back maybe like two, three hours later. And I'm like, wow, it's just, you know, so many years that you make your bed, you put your shoes on the corner. I'm not quite there yet. It's only been six years. That you've been out? I've been out of 2013.

So I still, the bed, like, I don't walk out of the room. My wife goes downstairs to get the coffee. She comes back up. We drink our coffee. As soon as I roll out of bed. Boom, I make the bed. You know, you make the bed, you take the shit of it. But I'm close.

I'm close. No, but you start seeing little things and you're like, damn. And then you catch yourself. And I'm like, it's just so much shit. I become so lazy, man. In that sense, like, my wife does everything. But, like, before I would make the bed, put my clothes, this, right? I don't do shit, bro.

Yeah, I was a machine. I was a machine when I got out. The gym, bro. I forgot. I forgot fucking what machines are for what muscle. I'm fucking. The other day, it's, it's, The other day I started stretching because I almost pulled a muscle.

Remember, our body before, like, my body was different. Now, it's like, if I drink, it takes me three days to recover. The next day is like nothing but soup. Then the next day is sleeping all day, and the third day is deciding what to do. It's just not the same. And my wife was like, yo, I think we should start going for a jog. I'm like, man, fuck that. I'm not doing all that.

I'm not going to start working out. We don't have time. it's time is it's not what it used to be so so you're in halfway house right what was your goal what was your plan or your goal in the halfway house to get back so let me tell you something to get out i wrote i wrote i wrote i wrote a list right you know you know with 48 laws of power the art of war all these things you got to have a plan yeah right i wrote i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do this within six months everything that i had wrote on that list i did it the 10 things get my because when i got out i went directly to my mom's house

But when I got out, everybody blessed me, like, my cousin gave me a car. My other cousin gave me $10,000. So what I did, I went, I went to my mother's house. I got everything the list was like, get your own house, an apartment, get a car, get clothes, get your life together, get a job, get everything within, I wrote 10 goals. Within six months, I did everything. I had a good job. I had my apartment.

I had a car. I had clothes. I was, you know, I was doing, I was doing well. And it's crazy because the job that I got, like, the dude had the prison time. And I remember, I went and I talked to him straight up. I said, listen, bro, I'm not a criminal. I'm not a bad person. Give me a shot.

I promise you, I won't let you down. And he gave me a shot. And I worked for him for, like, a few years. And I learned the game, and I went and I opened up my own mattress. Oh. I worked, I mattress one. Worked a mattress one. the guy was

he lost everything now you know he's a hell of a drug they lost everything but he gave me a shot he gave me like when when I got out he he actually helped me rehabilitate myself coming to society

and he's like bro how do you sell so good I'm like yo you don't understand that I come from being on a compound you walk and you talk about what you're going to do I would just stand outside the store and look at the trees and he's like, what's wrong with this guy? And I'm admiring the little things that I took for granted,

the opening the refrigerator. When I got out, I remember the first month, I don't have no experience in mattresses. And I sold like $80,000 in sales just because I was just like so happy to be alive and be free and be given a second chance to society. You know what I mean? And I just grew with the company.

I went from a salesman to a manager, from a manager to a district manager to running the whole Miami. And one night, one night on one of my benches, I remember this is maybe like three weeks. Right before I got, I got popped. One night in one of the parties that I was having in my house, I would have parties all the times. I grabbed, you know how normally when you go to the bank and you get some come with a yellow or a blue tape around. 10,000. I put $50,000 in a coffee can and I buried it outside of my house.

I even did like the whole, you remember the movie The Goonies? I counted the steps and everything and I buried the money. When I get pinched like three weeks later, yeah, more or less three weeks later, when I get arrested, I forgot about that money until I was already locked up for a while.

And then it hit me. I was so high that day. I'm like, oh, shit. I remember burying this money. And when I got out, I didn't know how to go back to get that money. When I go back to a look. Because the house is sold? Yeah, yeah, I lost the house.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that house, the feds took that house. So you got to go into somebody else's backyard? Somebody else's backyard, bro. And the thing is, no, this is like a movie. The person, when I got out, the person who bought my house, there was a police car. of my house. So I don't know if the husband or the wife or somebody in the house has a police car.

So when I went back, I'm looking at the house like, I drive off. I've actually passed four times before I decided, no, bro, this is my house. I know my house. And it was crazy because about when I did the Johnny Mitchell show, that house was for sale. I was trying to buy that house back. I was trying to buy it like now that I'm legit and this, this and that. And they had the house, they were selling the house for almost five mill. And I was like, oh, that's a lot of vegan chicken.

Right. You know what I mean? But when I own that house, I pay $600,000 for it. And it was valued. Like, when I, when they took the house for me, my house was valued like at a million dollars. And I pay $600 for it. And I almost paid a cash. I paid that house off within six months.

I paid $600,000. I had a hook up with the bank. And it was like $50,000. years, 60,000 years. I had the house paid off before a year was up. So you drove by the house four times? Maybe five. Okay.

And there was a police car. And I was like, damn, bro, my luck. But it was the only way for me to start over was with money. And I knew I knew it was crazy. The way I buried and everything, I was like $50,000 can start anybody a new life. And I felt that I had to jump the gate. It was crazy, man.

Like, I just. jumped that gate, I jumped that gate that not even an Olympic jump. Like, I couldn't do that jump again for a million dollars. It was, I walked on air, bro. It's, it was, it was a once in a million. I was there all night, digging. It was crazy. I was digging and digging.

And right when, this is how the devil works, I was digging, the light turns on to my room, to the, like the bathroom. So I'm down there I'm like damn The sun's about to come up I'm like If all the It's crazy because all the person in the house The people in the house

All they have to do is look out the window They would have seen me digging Right They would have seen the pool And they would have seen all the holes All around the you know what I mean So if I wouldn't have found it And that's when the adrenaline kicks in

That I'm like Damn bro It's like How do I make this If I leave They're gonna dig And find it And I remember

the sun was already coming out. I remember on the last, I'm like, yo, the last dig. I heard the ping, the can. And all this shit about where you bury something, bro, listen, I know where I buried it. That shit moved. That shit, it was like all the way on the other side of the yard. Like, I was like, come on, bro. The tree's here.

I buried it six steps from the tree. And you're telling me he's all the way on the other side? I don't know, man. The devil's real. But I found it. And that's how I opened up my first mattress store with those $50,000. If you sleep hot at it. night, you know how disruptive that can be. Whether you're having trouble falling asleep,

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and when they went from there, and I said, and I just blew up. I learned the game, the craft, and I took off. And then, you know, now what I do is the vegan food.

You know, it's a lifestyle. I live by it. How did that develop? Well, you know, in prison, we get a lot of nasty food. You know, a lot of people, I don't know what it was, but I never had problems like,

when I got out of prison I got out with a fucked up gold bladder I don't know why I used to I diagnosed myself I thought I had acid reflux because I used to eat everything well you know when you're locked up you have to use seasonings

to give the food flavors right so I used to eat when I got out I would eat everything with hot sauce tobacco and I would get stomach pains and I'm like oh that's acid reflex take peptobismo Xantac and I'll go away

at the time my ex-wife one day I was coughing of blood My father My father died three months before me Getting out of prison Cancer runs in my family My father died from cancer

I started coughing of blood one day My ex-wife told me You know those are symptoms of cancer That's the only reason why I even went to the hospital I went to the hospital And the doctor said Well you got four stones And your goldbladder

The size of quarters He goes, you believe in God I said yeah, why? Why would you ask you something like that? He goes, because if one of those explode inside of you, you're going to internally bleed out. The only one that could save you is God because I can't do nothing for you. And it all started from that day.

The doctor was vegan. A black gentleman, he had been a doctor for 30 years. And he's been vegan 15. And I remember I was a morphine. I was hanging out. I was like, don't let me go, Doc. I got kids. I'm like, I got a blue cross blue shield.

I'm like, I got a PPO. don't let me go. And the guy just told me off the rip. He's like, no, I know. I know you got good health insurance because if not, I wouldn't be here. So he gave it to me blood raw and uncut. And I'm like, oh, whoa, what a way to break the ice. And I'm like, yo, I got kids.

And we got cool. We still talk to today. It's crazy. But he told me, he's like, if you want to live, man, eat healthy. He goes, they're trying to control the population. But what we put in our body. He started giving me the whole thing about alkaline and how. you know all these man-made diseases

so did he did you have surgery yeah yeah they took the go bladder out that's why i can't lose weight for shit yo it's like you know that they skip you're skipping all these hey yo you know the thing when matt matt it might give me interrogation by like he'll ask me something and i'll answer it and then he's like no but i don't want you to answer like that's like this yeah so look so they take it out they take that's why i can't lose weight i like i try to lose weight but the gobladder is the filter to the body uh-huh i bro, you're a smart guy, man.

You're going to give me the whole definition of how the gold bladder. Pretty sure if you consumed less calories. Bro, listen, I don't even eat sometimes. Like, I fast a lot. I clear my body out from toxins and things like that. I don't eat till the sun comes down. Not for nothing religious. Like, people are you Muslim?

No, I'm not Muslim. None of that. I just don't eat till the sun goes down sometimes to cleanse your body. This is my belief. You know what I mean? I watched the, I saw a TikTok. He's fucking sorry. He's crying me up.

This woman felt like her husband, like something was wrong. She's like, it literally takes him 15 minutes to get home. No. And then she said, with the last month or so, it's been taking 30 to 45 minutes for him to get home. She's like, you know, he comes home and he's happy and he's this and he's that. She's like, I just knew something was wrong. So she ends up getting, I don't know if she hired somebody or something to follow him. Right.

She just knew he was seeing somebody. She knew it. Right. And he was driving home and he was going to, like, like five guys or something. He's like a hamburger guy and just sitting in his car eating like a fucking eating and just and then he put it down. And then he'd drive home and be like, hey, baby, what's going on?

And she was like, this is what this man's doing. Wow. This is, he is cheating. He's eating fucking food. Okay. It's real. So, so you, so, okay, how does that turn into how does, okay, so, so you're going to eat better.

Okay. Well, no, the whole thing is, can't you just eat better? Do you have to open a restaurant? Because it's like, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. A lot of the things that, okay, for example, pork takes seven days to digest out of your system, right? Spanish people, it's in our culture to eat. They program you since you're a kid to eat beans, that you need beans, pork and steak and all these things to survive. It's all bullshit.

You get more, you get more protein from a bowl of beans that cost you $1.59 at Publix than a 16-ounce steak that you pay $50 for at a dinner. It's the truth. You get more, more protein from a bowl of beans. But we're ignorant. We don't see, like, for example, you go to all these high-end places and you eat lobster and shrimp. Lobster and shrimp are the cockroaches of the sea. A lot of people don't know that the shrimp, they're normally black, gray.

They just paint them pink. They put dye on them to give them a better look because if they were gray or black, you wouldn't want to put that in your mouth. Pause. I just say this to say that. It's a lot of things that if you start looking, before people used to live to 90 to 100 years old. Easy.

Now out of 10 people, seven don't make it plus past 65, but to retire and get your social security in America, you have to be 65 years old. So out of 10 people that have been paying, their social security and all these things, for all these years that they're going to live to retire at a 10, 7 don't even make it to 65. So it's the things that you put in your body.

So what I'm trying to tell you is if you look at all the foods now, they're poisoning us. I want to say they're poisoning us because, for example, there's these big companies selling watermelon with no seeds. When have you seen a watermelon with no seeds? Walmart, there was a big scandal with Walmart. How do you get a water? These are all generic main things. They got the mystery chicken. Genetically.

Well, you got a chicken that Monday, it's a little baby chicken. And then Tuesday you come and it's a chicken and it looks like a full-blown Frenchie. And it was a baby chick on Monday. I feel like that's an exaggeration. Maybe a few weeks. No, bro. I'm telling you, I'll send you some pictures. Be like, what?

I'll send you some videos that Matt will be eating vegan burgers all week. Like, you're listening in the beginning, bro. Like, I don't believe shit until it happens to me, right? Like, I'm a conspiracy theorist. I believe in Bigfoot, all that shit, right? I believe that they only tell us what they want us to know, right? Because we can't handle the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So, okay.

So that's why, no. That's why you wanted to open one because you wanted to. No, I almost died from my goldbladder. These are all my grandmother's recipes, too, by the way. I was just the one that had the money. I funded the operation. My grandmother's been vegan for 57 years. She just turned 93 years old.

She could stretch better than me and you put together. My grandmother's 93. She walks a mile every morning and a mile at night. She looks like she's 52 years old and she's 93 years old. She's all there. So you started a vegan restaurant? I started a vegan restaurant because she owned a very famous spot in New York. And when back then being vegan was being weird.

You tell somebody you're vegan. They're like, oh, my God, you're what? When I started to eat healthy, like the first thing I cut off before I knew I was going to go vegan, I cut off the pork because that's the worst thing you could put in your body, for real, for all. I had some snack and bacon from from. You're going to hell, my. I'm over here giving you a testimony. A while I became vegan. What is it Dunkin'Dough for Dunkin' Donuts all the way here?

They sell, they sell, they call it. snacking bacon. I know what you're talking about. And they dip it in honey. And then they, I mean, it's worth a few years off my life, bro. I mean,

it's, I must have, listen, I had, I probably had six pieces of bacon yesterday. And, do you, do you have the,

what's the breakfast restaurant, a first watch? Yeah. It's good, bro. You know, it's crazy, though,

the main guy that started first watch is like a friend of mine. And he started with it, with his mother's money. Talk to him about it, the bacon. Because he's got big, thick bacon. No, but if I tell you that guy's story, that guy's another, bro. He deserves everything he has.

We'll talk to him. My boy, Mani. He deserves everything he has. You know what I mean? He comes from nothing as well. Great redemption story. He didn't go to prison or nothing like that, but he's had a rough life. So how do you start, how did you start?

Oh, so listen. Was it, is it a location or it's a truck? You got a truck? Well, I started, so I started this in 2017, right before the pandemic. right i started it in my mattress store i used the parking lot outside because i was looking for for a restaurant storefronts and everything in that area is 20 000 a month 15 000 a month and i'm like yo grandma if this shit don't work i'm gonna take away a 401k you know what i'm taking your social security i'm taking all that like it was a lot of money to to to start up a restaurant

and the way i wanted to do it i wanted to do it i wanted to do a big i wanted to do like a vegan sports bar like a hooters but vegan. And nobody wanted to help me with it. And I'm like, yo, you know what? What do you need for a vegan? What do you need for a restaurant, period? A roof, tables, chairs, a kitchen. That's it.

So I thought old school with it. Like I told you, I still had that drive, that motivation outside of my match store. I parked the truck. I put a big tent over it. I put tables, chairs. I started off for one. And within a year, I opened up three.

And then within three years, I had eight. And then... This is all in Miami. All of Miami. All in Miami. You know, now we do have... What's the correct word?

We have other cities that we're going to, you know, right now. But we're all doing like brick and motors, drive-thrues, little restaurants, little holes in the wall. That's the whole goal is to be like a McDonald's. But the thing is, it's not even about us growing because we have a real good team. It's just... This is all family recipe. We make everything in-house.

We make the bread. We make the meat. We make the chicken. Everything is grandma's recipes. I think our chicken tastes better than real chicken, to be honest, which really do. I haven't tasted real chicken in a long time, but I think it tastes better for the vegetarian people. Our meat, we make it out of mushroom and cauliflower. We season it for 48 hours, and it tastes like a five-guise burger.

So all these people that have problems with cholesterol or losing weight or they're diabetic, You know, I have a friend that doesn't believe in nothing. And 35 years old young, diabetic was having problems with his junk. It came to me and he's like, yo, listen, my doctor told me that I should become vegan. And he's telling me that he's diabetic. I'm like, well, look, let's do this. Let me give you, this is childhood friend. I said, I'm going to give you three meals every day for three months.

If it doesn't help your diabetes, bro, you can spit at me in the face. That's what I told him. and if it works within the three months, you got to give me 10 grand for those three months. I'm going to give you lunch, breakfast, and dinner. This guy said, all right, deal. We do the deal. Not even three months.

I think it was six weeks later, he went to his doctor that gives him the pills and the insulin of his shots and this, this and that. He said he doesn't see the diabetes anymore in his bloodstream. He said, you don't have diabetes anymore. It's only been six. weeks. Remember, there's no money in cures, Matt. There's only money in medication. That's why there's a CVS in every corner. Those are the real drug dealers that have trap houses. Why do you think there's a

Walgreens and a CVS? I learned that from a pharmacist that works at CVS the other day. He comes to one of my spots and we started talking and he's like, the real drug dealers. They're the real trap stars. I mean, am I talking? He's like, why do you think there's a CVS? And I walked me and said, because they're the biggest thing. He goes, no. He goes, they're not making money on the stuff inside. Everybody sells the toothpaste the same price. Walmart.

All the big guys sell it for the same price, lows, right? He goes, do you think that they're making money on the stuff inside? I said, no. I said, and they're paying at least $20, $25,000 in rent. He goes, it's because they make money from the prescription drugs in the window. If I listen to half of the shit, my father will tell me, I would have been very well off. I feel like that with my ex-wife.

No. Listen, every time something I trusted somebody or anything, every time she was like, listen, stop talking to that person. Here's why. And I'd be like, no, no, not Gretchen. Yeah. Gretchen and Pete, we're friends. We go on vacation together.

She would never. She's not telling you, you don't understand. They got busted. They're going to work with the cops. They're going to this. No. They would never. We babysit each other.

We're vacation. We're friends. Parties. We went to the party last week. She knew. And this is not once a gift, bro. It's a gift. Multiple times. Well, she also was Puerto Rican. She had an uncle who'd been arrested for drugs and went to prison. So she knows how the

system works and how everything works. I have no clue. I'm an upper middle class white kid. Like, no, we're friends. Yeah. We like each other. Yeah, I saw Godfather. He won't say anything. Yeah. That's, you know, it's crazy because now my wife tells me things all the time and I look at her and I'm like, shit.

Nine out of ten, she's right. Yeah. Well, they can see things that they're outside the box. They can see things that you don't see. You're clouded by, I'm clouded by friendship and all kinds of things. And they see that person and they're like, nah. Well, you know, you know, it's crazy, man. So not that long ago, I still believe that there was good people out there, you know,

to not that long ago. I really believe people still had the morals and the loyalty. Well, I think so. I think I just I'm not saying that people aren't aren't good people I just think that that they're not going to go to jail for you you know what I'm saying I don't know they're definitely not going to go to Jeffrey but I don't I don't think that there's there's a lot of good people left out there I like animals more than I like people to be honest with you there's no more loyalty from back in the day how how we grew up that

on somebody will do five 10 years in prison for their friend and won't say nothing and a ride or die I have a friend right now that he's locked up me and my wife fight all the time and he's loyal like a Doverman. It's my brother. Send him money every week. And my wife was like, no, leave him in there.

He's not going to change because he goes to jail all the time. He's in and out. He goes to jail more than Bobby Brown. I tell him all the time, I'm like, this guy, he'll get out. He'll come work for me for about three, four months. Get locked up. I got to bond him out. I got a buddy right now, Zach. since he got out,

he's been locked up two more times on fraud charges. I send him money. My wife, what are you doing? Why do you have a soft spot for this guy?

Yeah. He keeps committing fraud. I'm like, oh, you know, he just needs to get if he could just get on his feet. Yeah, so this is the conversation

with me and her. I'm like, no, he's going to change. This jail time, I'm telling him right now he's going to come out different. Talk to,

I talk to him on the phone. No, I can, I can hear it in his voice. I'm telling him, listen, I can hear it in his voice. This time really changed him. I'm like, this is really, and she just looks at me like,

wow, you dumb ass, motherfucker. You send him, what are you doing? You're sending him $200? Well, it's, you know, it's commissary. He's coming up. And he needs $200. Yo, my wife is so petty that she blocks my credit card so I can't pay for the phone anymore. Oh, my.

Yo, I got a call friends. I'm like, yo, send me your credit card. I'm going to pull upon you. My wife blocked every credit card. Listen, I got one better. I got a phone call from him about a month and a half ago. and he's like, listen, he had paid his attorney, whatever it was like five. First, he got an attorney, paid her like five grand.

This is a state, you know what I'm saying? It's nothing. It's a minor fraud charge, right? Five grand, just to handle whatever, five grand. And then come to find out, the guy that was supposed to pay the five grand didn't pay it. He paid three grand and made one payment. He still owes $1,500. He paid one payment of $500.

So he paid $3,000 plus a $500 payment. So he still owes $1,500. but of course there's you know they charge you for like copies and all that shit going so it ends up being like 1600 and something 1680 or something so he calls me and says listen man man I'm so sorry I can't believe I you have no idea yeah yeah yeah yeah let's get through that you got 15 minutes let's wrap it up what is it what do you need and he's like you know he's like I feel so bad I'm like oh my God what is it how much how much and he's like you know my lawyer as when he said lawyer I thought oh hell oh hell man

Oh, that's $10,000 right there. Oh, good one. He explained it. I was like, yeah, okay. And he explained, look, this and that. And I went, oh, listen, fuck, I don't know if I can just pay that. Like, he's like, what do you mean? I'm like, well, I mean, I only have so much money that's in my account.

I only have this. Like, I'd have to go and ask. I'd have to ask for that. I'm like, wait a minute. Does she take credit cards? He's like, yeah, I think you can go on like the portal and pay with your credit card. I was like, perfect. Perfect.

I could pay. Jess will never know. My wife will never know. Did I tell you this, Colby? I go on, I figure it out. And I keep on, I'm, I usually have to ask her to do anything. Right. Because, you know, I don't want to go on.

You know, it's like, fuck, can you figure this out? How do I do this? Can you order the plane ticket? Because I don't want to go on the site. I hate doing that shit. So I go on. I figure it out. Right.

It's 1680. Okay, got it. Put the credit card in. You know, goes through. Boom, paid it. Nice. Right. Print the receipt.

It sends me a receipt. I print the receipt. Right. Perfect. Got the receipt. I'm good. I'm telling you, bro, my wife, fucking one day. Not even 24 hours.

Not even 24 hours. I'm outside doing something. And she comes walking out and she goes, who's, you know, who's Kimberly such and such? Attorneys at law. And I'm like, she's like, are we paying for an attorney for something? And I went, fuck.

Fuck. I go, how, what? And my thought is, She's going, how do you have access my shit? How did you figure that out, right? Like, she didn't have my, my personal card or, yeah, my app on her phone, like for my, like, how, and she goes, oh, no, she said, I went to go print something and you left the receipt on the session. She says, why are we paying an attorney $16, $1,700? And I'm like, and I went, fucking Zach, you know?

She's like, what's wrong with you? I get caught with the most dumbest shit, like, like, I'm talking to him and I get home, so I'm in the car talking to him. I'm like, yo, look, I just got to the home, and I'm like, it's 13 minutes. We got two more, right? So I'm like, yo, look, don't call me today because I'm going to be home. He'll call me 20 minutes later. I'm like, ah, shit, here we go. Now, we argue about this guy all the time, but he's like a brother, man.

He's one of the ones. The reason why I'm in the paint with him so hard, man, and I just can't turn my back on this guy is because he's loyal, man. He's right to die. He's one of the old from back in the day that I believe he'll take a book. for me. And that's where to me is priceless, man. $100 a week that I sent him, bro, that's not real money.

Or I put money in his phone. Yeah, it was Zach, I don't know if I didn't take a bullet for me. But I do know that... He'll get ranned over for you at least. I do know that I was locked up for three years with him in the medium. And those three, the two and

a half, it was basically, it was almost three years, really. He was only, he was only gone a few months when he went back on a 2255, which is a motion. He was your bunky. No, no, but we were, he was in another unit, but, you know, we're talking about eating almost every meal, walking the track. Like, working out. He shaved 30% of my time because, you know, if you have somebody you can hang out with, like your time is much easier.

If you have somebody that you can go meet and walk the track and have conversation with, this is the medium, bro. Like, there's maybe, it's 80% black, almost, you know, whatever, let's say 19% percent. Hispanic. There's maybe 30 guys on the compound that are white guys. And all of them are there for making a bathtub that's in a fucking single wide. You know what I'm saying? I can't talk to either. And I'll never forget one of my favorite things. This sums you up what these guys are like. Right. This is a statement, a literal statement from a white guy there. Guy's a fucking genius. Best bha'i ever had. What am I going to talk to this guy about? He's got no teeth. My mother's a good kissing. Yeah, I mean, this is horrible, bro. So, I mean, Zach was, he

He's a guy. He was there for fraud, and we talked fucking all the time. He just made so. So, you know, he got out. We, you know, I've tried to help him over and over again. Colby tried to help him. He just keeps going back to jail. But I do feel like this time's different. I do feel like this time he's going to get right. My friend just lost the eye. He just lost the eye in jail. So I'm trying to get him a lawyer. I was at a different jail. I was at a different jail. So this guy, my friend is very short-tempered. So he got into a fight with a guy about the phone, right? and the guy hits him with the phone, hits him in a vein,

and he lost his eye. My friend lost his eye. So now, you know, I call my attorneys and my attorneys are like, bro, you got so much shit going on. You're calling me about a friend that lost his eye in jail. And they're like, look, man,

our job is to protect you, but we can't protect you from yourself. He's like, leave your friend alone. He just lost the nine. So I'm thinking my wife's going to feel bad. She knows him. She don't give a friend. Fuck, my girl's like, he lost an eye.

He's still not going to change. And I'm like, well, you got to have some compassion. The guy just lost the night. Just got out of surgery. I'm like, I'm accepting this call thinking she's not going to sing of the sheep, bro. Serial killer instincts. It's not going to change.

Put a patch on that shit. It's crazy, man. So you got five trucks. Are they all in? Oh, no. Right now, so the whole thing I just went through a divorce. We started a new brand. It's called On the Run Vegan.

You know what I mean? We have a spot in Kendall. We have a spot in Winwood, and we're opening up another one right now. We're on the works of opening up the third one. So it's on social media. It's on the run or on the run, vegan Winwood. What happened to the old one? Divorce, my brother.

She's running them? No, no, no. It's just... You sold them? They just closed everything down. No, we just... Divorce. It was just...

Big man, it's cheaper to keep her, my brother. Don't... Don't get divorce. I'm telling you that right now. It's the best advice. It was just, it was a lot. She tried to go after the name, the brand, and do not negotiate with terrorism.

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