Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Celebrity Plug Reveals How He Made Millions...
Episode Date: July 3, 2024Celebrity Plug Reveals How He Made Millions... ...
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Rick Ross, he's one of the biggest artists in the world.
He can buy jewelry from anybody, but he's wanting me to do his piece.
That led to me doing a piece for 50 cents.
They'll pay 10 times what it's worth.
I end up and scamming people out of millions of dollars doing that.
I got 30 racks underneath my son's bassinet, 30 racks in cereal boxes.
I got 50,000 bucks in a monopoly box.
So the next morning, my son's mom wakes me up shaking me.
People are banging on the door.
They said it's the police.
Bro, as soon as I go to the door, my whole life changed at that moment.
My name's Campo, born in Tyler, Texas.
Grew up like typical, you know, Texan kid.
My mom and dad were both there.
Went to a good school, you know, just a public school.
I guess what kind of sent me down the path that I went down is like, dude, I would just see my parents bust in their ass just to like pay for a house
for us to stay in and clothe us.
The bare minimum.
Yeah, like bare minimum, but my pops is working from waking up at 3 a.m.
He's getting home at 7, 8 p.m., showering, going to sleep, waking back up.
And I remember, like, that always implemented something in my mind to where I'm like, damn, you know.
I love my parents, I love my pops.
He's one of me, my best friend, you know, but I'm like, I got to, I don't want that, you know.
Yeah. Like I don't want to struggle. I don't want to worry. And that's kind of what left, you know, put me down the path of, you know, how I got to where I ended up in prison. But, yeah, I mean, I was a okay kid. You know, I'd get in a little bit of shit here and there, you know, weed was always my thing. So it's like around 10th grade, 11th grade, that's really when I started going hard, you know, the guy that.
you know, was selling weed at school. And it's kind of all just derail. See, I played football.
That was my original goal in life was, man, I'm going to play football, right? So one day
after school, we had football practice. And one of my other friends was like, hey, you want to go
smoke some weed and skip football practice? And I was like, hell yeah. So I remember we went
down because the high school, there was a gas station at the end of the hill. And so,
My boy, he put, hey, he already had a blunt roll.
And we, uh, so we're smoking out behind the gas station.
And then like one of my other friends, his older brother pulled up.
And so we were like, hey, man, give us a ride, you know, and we're 16, 15 high as shit.
And like we're, I'm in the back of his brother's truck, right?
Just sitting in it.
Well, I go to get out of his truck and like, uh, I put one leg over the tailgate and the dude
thought it would be hilarious to like gas and then break right I was out of there I ended up
flipping off the back of the truck landed on my neck like the whole side like my eye like my face
was all covered in blood and I just snapped my shoulder like all the way out of there then I had to
make the call you know I'm just bleeding all my friends are running in the gas station like
adults that are pumping gas are running over to us and so when
One of my friends called my mom and was like, bro, and I was telling my friend, don't call my mom, bro.
Do not call my mom, you know.
And so he called her and do, like, I only lived like five minutes from the high school.
When I tell you, it was like at the street, it was almost like 35 miles an hour.
When I tell you, I can hear my mom's Cadillac hit the corner and I hear like, mm-hmm.
And she fucking pulls into the gas station, slams on her brakes, get out.
And she's just like, what the fuck are you doing?
And I'm just like, oh, she's like, why aren't you at football practice?
And so I'm just like trying not to cry because probably what hurt more is my mom just getting on my ass in front of all my friends.
Right.
And like, so I know going to the ER, you know, they do x-rays.
They, so my shoulder, I don't know all the science behind it, but, you know, your shoulder is kind of held in like that.
And like, so basically I broke all the little prongs around it.
And then my shoulder was like, you could see the bone.
It didn't break the skin.
So I was in a sling.
They said it, which that probably, now that I'm thinking about it, saying it out loud,
that's probably what started my love for pain pills too.
Because, you know, I'm like 16 and they're giving me hydrocodones and all sorts of shit.
But, you know, so they tell me, hey, you're good, you know, just give it time to Hill and you'll be able to play football again.
So I finally Hill a couple months later, I get back in a football practice, you know.
Because, like, when I played football, I mean, I wasn't the best, but I mean, I was a starter.
I was always, you know, I was a lineman.
I was a big old boy, you know?
So it's like, but I was like, man, this is my path.
This is what I want to do.
And then I just wasn't the same.
And then I'd get hit and my shoulder would always hurt.
And then I went and got x-rayed again.
And they're like, oh, yeah.
Because I got hit one time real bad.
And it's kind of slipped out of place again.
Right.
And they were like, nah, it's over for you.
So, I mean, I remember that being, like, devastating to me, being like 16 and all, you know, all my homeboys were going to football practice and they all go this way and I got to go to P.E.
You know what I'm saying?
I got to go to P.E.
And I remember just being so defeated, right?
So then I just kind of started going full force on the stuff, you know.
Where are you getting it?
Like, how do you?
Bro, this is what's crazy.
I was thinking about this, too.
as a 15, 16-year-old kid,
I was in places that I shouldn't have been.
Like, I would tell my mom I'm going to a friend's house.
And I'm really at like some 38-year-old barber's house or something that's cutting hair,
selling crack, selling, and I'm just like, man, but I'm thinking,
what the fuck was going on?
What were these grown-ass men doing, just letting like 15, 16-year-olds hang out there
and smoke while they sell crack and cut hair, you know?
But, man, it was just so easy.
to, like, go out there and just get whatever.
And at that time, like, an ounce of swag in, like, 2003 was like 40 bucks, 50 bucks.
But, you know, I just met older people, and so I'd buy the ounce for 40, 50 bucks.
And then I'm selling it to all the other 16-year-olds I go to school with, and I'm making 200, 300, 300 bucks on a zip.
And when you're 16 with no bills, you know, it was great, free money.
200 bucks a week is a year of the man.
Yeah, it was great, you know.
I was going to, you know, places you shouldn't have been, like, I forget who we
were interviewed that guy the other day.
And he was talking about places like, you know, he was, everything he's saying, it's like 12 years.
I was 12.
I was 13.
I was 14.
He's like, and now, of course, he's got like two or three daughters.
He's that I think about my daughters.
Like, I can't believe I was doing the things and where I was.
He's like, and I think about my daughter who's 13, like, he's like, who has no concept of
anything that I went through.
He's like, I can't imagine her being put in the positions that I was put in.
That's pretty much, like, because I've got a son, and I just had a daughter about six months ago.
But my son's 10, and I think, like, I hope this guy doesn't do any of the shit that I did.
You know, and also another thing I think of from the perspective of, like, a parent, I'm just like, now that I'm growing with my own kid, I think back and I'm like, damn, I don't even know how my parents slept at night, you know, just like, and I'm sure.
You know, like, my parents, they're really, even though I was doing all this off, like, my parents are, we're really good parents.
They're really caring.
My mom was, is pretty stern.
My dad, you know, he ended up getting caught up in my case.
I'll tell you about that.
But he was, he was very strict, you know, but he wasn't around because he worked so much.
It was easier to get away with shit, you know.
But he was very big on, like, you go to school, you get a job, you work 15 hours a day.
you come back that's just your purpose you know um but watching him do it i'm like man fuck that
but i uh i'd be hanging out with these guys and just like kind of buying ounces here and there
another thing that kind of fueled all that um because i ended up getting thrown out of school
and i had to go to an alternative school but not really because of my behavior i wasn't like a bad
kid i was actually class clown in high school you know it's like i was respectful to the teacher
stuff like that.
But back in, like I said, this is like 02, you know, 03.
I was really big on burning CDs and burning DVDs.
And I was like the DVD CD guy at school.
So people would walk up to me and give me a list.
And they'd be like, hey, these are the songs I want on it.
And I'd go home and hit up Bear Share or Kaza or something.
It'd burn them CDs.
And that was my whole hustle.
And so I would always have, you know,
and these were when the bootlegs were like a guy's in the theater
with a camcorder and it's all rocky.
But I'd go to school every morning and just have tons of bootleg DVDs.
So this one kid who I had really no ties to, he was a grade younger.
I knew his older brother.
He ended up getting busted at school with a porno DVD.
I never burnt porno.
You know, I didn't sell any of that type of shit.
So he's in the principal's office and they're like, well, where did you get this from?
And he was like, oh, I got it from Campo.
He's at the high school.
He's in ninth grade.
So I'm just in the middle of class.
My backpack is full of DVDs and movies and CDs.
And they, the cop and the principal come and they're like, we need him right now.
And they ask, I'm like, what's going on?
I walk in there.
I sit down.
My mom's there.
My dad's there.
If my dad's there at 1 o'clock in the afternoon, if he had to leave from work, I'm like, oh, shit.
I was thinking like something's going on.
Like somebody snitched.
me said there's about the weed or something like that and I'm just and they got like the principal
of the alternative school sitting there too and they like so they tell my parents like your son is
selling pornographic DVDs and my mom was just like just like so and I'm like I swear to God mom I am
not selling DVDs and like I they unzip your bag dude well yeah pretty much so like uh all the
CDs I didn't have anything wrote on them but there was one copy of too fast two
furious. It was in movie theaters
at that time. And I'm like
no, I didn't, I don't
know these people. I'm just holding that for
somebody. I'm not going to tell you who I'm holding it
for all this shit. So they're like,
we're about to go get a TV with
a DVD player and we're going to roll
it in here. And if that
plays, you're going to be
because I told them, oh, they're just blanks. They're blanks.
That's what I kept saying. So they go
and they get the TV with the DVD player
and the cop and the
principal and the alternative
person. We're like, Mr. and Mrs. Campos, we need to speak to you outside. So they left the
DVD right there. So they're outside talking and I pick up the DVD and I just start scratching
it on anything that I can. And like, so I set it back down. They come in there and then they
put the DVD in and it says universal and then it just cuts blue. And I'm just like, man,
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Get out of high school.
I was like, my mom's like,
if you're going to live here,
you need to, and keep in mind,
I'm still selling weed and DVDs the whole time.
And she's like, if you're going to live here,
you either get a job or you go to college, right?
How old are you?
18.
I thought you were still like 16 years old.
Well, I was really like, yeah, I was, I was about like 17 and a half type.
Oh, 16, you can get a job.
If you're not going to school full time, then you need a job.
But see, the thing is, like, my mom knew that I always had money, but she didn't know that, like, by
time I'm 18, which even though it's not big money, like, I'm 18, I've got four or five
thousand bucks with no bills, you know, that I've just been saving up from selling weed and
DVDs and shit like that.
So I'm like, I'm not going to get a job, you know, like, I've already got a job, you know.
So I apply for FAFSA, right?
What's that?
It's like college loans, right?
So it's like school loans.
So I sign up for it just to see, because I'm like, I'm not going to spend my money to go to college.
You know, I'll spend the government's money.
So I'm just thinking that I went to a junior college, Tyler Junior College, which I didn't graduate.
I don't even think I got a credit.
I was there like three years just fucking off.
but like uh so so like uh because man all my i started just meeting more people to sell weed to and then
i started meeting guys that had better weed and just making contacts and my barber who you know i won't
drop his name i love the guy the guy that i'd be hanging out at this crib when i was 14 15 i end up
seeing him up there you know and it's like i'm like damn you go he's like yeah you want to skip
class and go smoke i'm like hell yeah you know so but i sign up for fastfa and then one day i get a letter
in the mail, and it's like, you've been approved for FASFA. And they're giving me like 14,000
bucks. So like, this shit blows my mind, right? Because I'm just like, man, I got a couple
racks, but $14,000. So boom, the check hits. My school, because when I filled out the
application, I put that, like, I'm paying for school that I have to pay for housing, that I have
to pay, you can check all these things and it makes your amount go up. So I just maxed it out.
I mean, keep in mind, I can't remember off the top of my head, so don't quote me.
but TJC was probably like $2,000 a semester.
You know, these people gave me like 14 grand.
Right.
So it's like, but I said that I had to pay for everything.
And so the, and they send you a debit card and the money's just on the debit card.
So every day, and dude, my mom used to like watch me go to school and like call me with something I was like pull up to make sure I was at the campus because she knew I was fucking off.
but every day I would go and take the max out of the ATM every day.
So out of that 14 grand, they just covered the school, and then I just pocketed the rest, right?
And that opened up a whole other can of worms, you know.
So, and also going on at this time, one of my best friends, God rest of soul, C. Rich, that was like my partner in crime.
You know what I'm saying?
He ended up dying of a super rare disease called Good Pastures Disease.
it happens to like one in three million people and like it just attack it picks an organ attacks it
and you got six months a year type shit and but me and him we really jumped off the porch
together like he's the one that put me on which i didn't have a big period of doing this but
i had one point of my life like around 18 19 20 where i was just selling anything you know
ecstasy but not like in huge amounts like because when i ended up linking up with
like we had always been friends through school when we really just started hustling hard together
he was already you know he was selling and anything that made money you know so like we kind
of got to the point where we would combine our cash together type of thing so we um we find out he
works with this guy this is when i really started making money like around 19 20 years old like
he met this guy i don't know if they have the restaurants out here but it's called
Benegans. I think they're shut down now, right? My buddy worked at Benegans, and there was this other guy
who would always have pain pills, hydrocodones, oxycontin, or oxycodone, and he would have
the Xanax bars, too. And back in my day, they were like $3 a piece. They were super cheap
back then. But he would always just have thousands, right? And my boy C. Rich asked him, how much,
Or like, where are you getting?
How are you getting this many?
And he was like, I go to Houston, a doctor hop.
So he was like, what's that?
And so he tells them like, bro, there's clinics down there.
If you know the right clinic to go to and you know what to say, they'll just let you walk out with anything.
And so he's like, cool, well, you take me?
And he's like, yeah, I'll take you.
So he took them one time.
And my boy comes back and he's loaded up.
Now, keep it also, like, I hadn't taken any pain pills since I broke my shoulder.
So, you know, it's like I started kind of, you know, not kind of, I started taking pain pills a lot, you know.
And not to the point, like I was completely functional.
I was never like nodding out.
A lot of people didn't even know that I was abusing pills to the extent that I was, you know.
But that really just came into like a full-time thing for me, all right?
Three to four days a week, I'm going and we're picking people up, we're loading the car down.
And all you had to do is be 21 or older with an ID.
That's all you had to do.
So it's like, I'm telling people my dude.
You didn't have to show like a MRI, nothing?
No MRI, no.
Now I's a good doctor.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He was the best, you know.
I'm talking, this was in Houston in this shitty little strip mall, like just shitty, you know, bottom tier.
And like the doctor's pulling up in a $200,000 Mercedes, like just, he was like a Nigerian
guy when you get your script, he was an OB-GYN. But he was right and he was running the pill mill.
And so I would load people up. My thing was, I'll give you 20 pills. I'll let you keep the
bottle. So you're always legit. In the future, you can buy your own pills and put them in this
bottle. Yeah. And I'll take you and just do what I tell you. And we'll walk out of there.
So, bro, it got to, I'm taking three, four people, three, four times a week. I got to the point where I was
going so hard doing that shit, I started paying other people to take people for me and just
sending them with money. Because, like, where I grew up in Tyler, I was about three and a half
hours from Houston. And the line at those pill mills starts at 3 a.m. And like, so you'd pull up
at, you know, 3.30 and there's already 100 people in line. And some of them. Like outside. Yeah.
In the, in the cold, in the rain, you know, and they'll come and they'll,
a lot of times they would come and just start counting and they'd be like, hey, everybody after
this person, you got to come back tomorrow, like, because we can only do certain amount of people
a day.
So that's when shit really jumped off.
That's when, I want to say life took a term for the worst, because at that time, I thought
life was great.
I'd, you know, my son's mom, who I was with at the time, like, you know, we moved, got
our own place.
Like, I've always got money.
I start buying jewelry.
I start throwing concerts, because my mind was never that I want to just sell drugs my whole life.
It was like, this is a stepping stone, and I'm going to use this to legitimize what I'm doing.
So me and C. Rich started throwing concerts, and we'd run out clubs and Tyler, and, like, we would just book, like, mainly, like, Texas bass rappers that have, like, huge followings in the state and just a way to kind of clean the money.
And it was legit money, you know.
but, you know, we were just running through the pills.
And in my mind, like, I was so oblivious to consequences, right?
That, like, I didn't even understand at the time what I was doing was super bad news,
you know, in the sense of, now, keep in mind another thing, this was way before all the
fentanyl epidemic stuff.
So it's like nobody that I, all the people that I was selling pills to back then, I'm
still friends with them on Facebook today, you know, and like, and all of them got kids and they're
married, you know, it wasn't crushing lives. We were just 20-year-olds, 21-year-olds, just doing
21-year-old shit, you know. But so like, but it turned into a full-blown thing. We're throwing
concerts because I also was making music at the time. So I was putting a lot of money into like the
my music career right so it's like and i'm also the stuff that that i'm making my songs about i'm
actually doing you know so i uh that that really became like my priority in life and uh so
i just see no dude i can just see the you know selling pills yeah man but i'll be honest
with you like the and i'll get to it but i don't know how the feds got on to me me either man no
it's like so but what's crazy is I never ever ever got in trouble on the pills like so what
happened what kind of one thing that really slowed everything down and kind of threw a monkey wrench
and everything believe it or not was when Michael Jackson died I remember being on 1960
FM 1960 in spring Texas waiting outside to hit the doctor and then you just see all these
feds just blowing down the street local cops feds
F-B-I-D-E-A, and there was another clinic across the street because they're all kind of in bunches.
Some of them you had to get in from a recommendation, you know, some, you got to know somebody.
And, dude, we're watching them outside raid the one across the street.
Well, it ended up being a clinic, and we're all just standing there.
You're just standing there in line for your pill, your pill, but I guess we'll be next week.
Yeah, pretty much.
And, but come to find out, that was a clinic that Conrad Murray owned, which was Michael Jackson's doctor.
And so, because he was involved in all sorts of shit, allegedly.
And then, so when all that happened, swear to God, two weeks later, I went back to the clinic that I went to and they had been rated, right?
But they were still open for business.
You just had to fill everything out again because they're like feds came and took all our records.
Right.
They took the TVs off the wall, arrested our nurse practitioner, but we got another one here now.
And, uh...
They're expendable.
There's lots of them.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you got to think.
Back then, it was costing $400 to see the doctor, and they're doing $150,200 a day, you know, six days a week. And it's all cash. No insurance and no debit card. You had to pay cash for it. And like, so these guys were making tons of money. Yeah. You know. So stuff kind of started to get tight. That's when they did like the national database. And you can only fill one controlled substance a month and stuff like that. So.
Damn, what was I saying?
They had raided the place across the street.
They raided the place across the street.
And then also, so that my guy, C. Rich, the dude that put him on, like, he was much heavier in the game than we were.
Like, he was written like vans and then another van.
And they're taking 20, 30 people at a time down there.
And so when we really kind of stopped is C. Rich, he called me and he said the guy that told him about.
you know, all the pill mills that just got picked up by the feds.
And I asked him what happened.
And he was like, dude, he was driving through Lindell, which is a small town outside of Tyler.
He was like, he was driving, and he just got surrounded.
And then he had like thousands of pills in the car.
And I don't even know what happened to that guy.
He just disappeared.
He fell off the face of the earth.
Him and Sea Rich were super close, and he ended up sending word to Sea Rich said, hey, quit
messing around, I'm going to cooperate.
So just get out of the mix,
completely. So that's when we
get a phone call from me, don't answer it, right?
The dude was a real one.
And like what's crazy is he was like a
300 pound gay dude.
But just cool as hell, just like really
down for the cause. You know what I'm saying? He was a
money getting motherfucker. And like,
I'm going to cooperate. I'm going to crack a bunch of
head. I'm not going to crack your head. I'm going to get these guys over here.
But if, but you know what the problem is
then? Sometimes you crack those guys' head.
They cooperate. And then they go
after the guys that you didn't cooperate against.
Like you're, oh, I'm not going to cooperate against you, but I busted these guys.
Some of them know you.
Next thing you know, they're trying to bust you.
Like, you can still end up getting roped in.
So that's why he probably said, hey, I'm cooperating.
So get out of this right now.
And we, and we left all, which once again, we're so young and stupid and naive that we're just
like.
You're still thinking it's not going to happen to you.
Well, yeah.
I never would have because we'll get to it.
But I transitioned out of all that type of shit because I'm like, I'm going to play it safe.
I'm just going to sell weed.
And that's what ended up doing me in, you know.
But so we left it alone and we were so naive to just the legal system and the justice system that we're like, all right, let's quit doing the pills.
Let's just start selling weed and cocaine and ecstasy and all this shit, which, yeah, I mean, dumb as hell.
Which, you know, for the record, I never liked dealing with any of that other shit.
but just see rich had all the clientele for it like and so and it really turned into like i would
just throw my bread in he would go and buy what he had to buy every once in a while i'd have
to go meet a custo to drop it off but most of the time it was more of like just an investment
thing on that end i was just the weed guy you know you call me if you want a pound 10 pounds
two ounces whatever and like so we had enough money from the pill game that like now we're
buying, you know, three, four pounds of, you know, back then hydro, you know, like fire ass hydro,
back when weed was like $400 an ounce, you know, and like now it's damn near free because it's
so oversaturated. But back then you could actually make good money off weed. So we transition,
we're selling all the weed, uh, life's still good, you know, like, and at that time,
I never had like any close encounters, you know, uh, never,
felt like I was being watched
like C. Rich ended up
getting in a little bit of trouble. His house
did get raided, but
he didn't have anything. He had a gun
in there, but there were no drugs.
And like, we're in Texas.
You know, I'm a lot to have a gun. Yeah. Yeah. And I think he just
got like unlawful possession
of a firearm, which is like a misdemeanor.
I could be wrong. In the state of Texas,
I think it's a misdemeanor, because
he wasn't the one that legally bought it and he
didn't have a bill to sell. So it's like
I think he just, he's set in the county,
for a couple months and they like dismissed it and he was good you know so but at this time i'm still
like he's locked up for that little bit of time and i'm just keeping everything going you know
which in my mind is also so fucking stupid looking back at it because i'm like my partner in crime
is sitting in the county his house just got raided and i'm still just out here you know
hustling you know so but we also started pouring more money at this time and like because he was a real
big, really supportive of what I did musically. And I was also, like, just doing the
concerts. So we were throwing concerts once a month, you know. And so shit kind of takes a turn.
You know, like I said, life's still good. We're getting money. And then one day, he, he starts feeling
bad, you know. And this is like, man, when I tell you, he got out, though, by that point he got out.
He had got out and, like, we had still kept, oh, in one time, right?
So we had ran out a weed.
This is just a funny story.
So we had to go to this guy in Dallas that we were cool with.
So it's like we go to his house and we pick up a couple.
I think it was maybe a pound or two.
It wasn't much.
And like, so we're driving back from Dallas.
And like, right as we come into Tyler, we're going over this hill.
I can't remember the road, but there's.
There's like a big Sam's Club right there.
And, like, we're coming in at, like, 4 a.m., you know, 3 a.m. type shit.
And then, like, dude, I remember us both laughing hysterically because, like,
C. Rich was hilarious.
Me and him would just trip out.
He would just trip out.
He did was really, like, damn near.
He, like, blood to me.
You know, like, that was my brother.
And, like, we were laughing hysterically and just, like, and he swerved a little bit, got lit up, right?
We're smoking a blunt.
We got weed in the car.
And then on top of it, we get pulled over and Corey's like, look, bro, that was my fuck up.
Like, if they want to arrest one of us, I'll go in, just take my car, don't let them tow it and get my bond.
That's on me.
And that's how down this fool was.
They don't make them like that anymore.
Like, he was too good for this earth type of thing.
And regardless of what he, you know, selling drugs, like he was a great guy, great heart.
You know, and he didn't want that for his whole life either.
But, dude, the cop walks up.
our window it's some fucking asshole we went to high school with that hated us in high school
and he's just like oh he already knew both our full names he's like oh what do y'all got in the
car now like he knew what we were doing in high school and we were like man we don't we ain't got
nothing he was like be honest you know you know i know y'all got something i can smell this smoke
still pouring out the windows you know and uh so i have got i had rolled the blunt so i got like
little weed particles all over me, right? And like, and I thought I had brushed him off,
but all I did is brush him in my lap. And like, so he's like, he's like, Campo, I can see the
weed on your shorts. And I was like, bro, that's not weed? You know, he's like, look, man,
y'all just need to tell me how much is in the car. I'll take one of y'all to jail. I'll take
both of y'all of jail. I can get the dogs out here. I really don't care, but y'all are going
to jail. And then like, and it's in Smith County, they hang them high. So back in those days,
bro, you get pulled over with a grandma weed. You're taking a trip to the county. They don't
play around out there right there it's crazy so we end up telling them okay we got this in the car
and then the cop once again neither me or core you know shit about the justice system um
but the cops like well look i can put half on you and half on you it would be better for you
but in reality like if one of us took it all it's still it wasn't enough to be like
anything more than a state jail felony it was like so if we were to split it up we both would
got a state jail felony versus it's not like it would take it from a third degree felony
to a state jail felony and bring it down a peg it was just like he was just trying to fuck us over
so like see rich takes the fall he goes in and like my my son's mother is at the apartment
she's got a couple friends over right and they were just waiting on us to get back you know
so we could smoke because in those days i'd stay up all hours of the night like up till eight
nine in the morning go to sleep and just do it all over again so
So I walk in and they're like, where's Sea Rich?
And I'm like, bro, he got arrested.
We need to go, we need to find a bondsman and get him out.
And they're like, no, really.
I was like, that fool just got arrested.
We need to go pick him up.
Right.
So like now everybody is like worried, freaked out.
And also, I don't know.
I don't know that if you go to jail for a pound or something, a weed, I don't know what the bond is.
In my mind, I'm like, dude, this fool is locked up.
He's going to have to.
In my mind, I'm like, he's going to go to prison.
You know, I'm just, I'm freaked out for him.
And I feel bad because I'm like, fuck, we should have never did it.
We should have did it during the day.
Man, we bonded him out for like 500 bucks, right?
He ended up dying before that charge ever, you know, manifested into probation or prison time.
You said he's just started feeling bad one day.
Yeah, he gets out.
And one day he just starts, like, feeling bad.
And he, like, he starts coughing.
And there's blood all over his hands.
And I'm like, damn, bro.
Like, you need to go to their dog.
doctor. And he was like, no, man, I think I'm fine. Yeah. The dude was a trip. He's like,
I think I'm fine. Uh, I just need to quit smoking menthols because he would smoke like a pack
a day. And I'm like, I'm like, all right, bro, quit smoking menthols. And if it's not good in the next
couple days, uh, you need to go to the doctor. So like two days later, he quit smoking
menthols in his mind. He's like, I'm just going to start dipping Copenhagen instead. So he just
starts dipping Copenhagen. And then he's still coughing that shit up. I can't remember
exactly if I took him or if he took himself to the doctor or maybe me and my son's mom did we had
like a tight group of friends at that time and like some people from high school some of the
people that I've met after high school some people I met at TJC and like so but he goes to
the hospital and they don't let him leave like he checks in and he he's kind of like downplaying
he's like yeah when I cough I cough up a little bit of blood and and they're like we need to
admit you to
ICU right now, right?
He went from standing up being fine
to, you're going straight to ICU.
And like, so they take them in there.
They can't diagnose what's wrong with them.
They end up diagnosing them with something called
Wagner's or also good,
I think it's good pastures disease.
And like I said, it's super rare.
It picks an organ, destroys it.
It happened to pick his lungs, you know.
So they end up like,
the day after that, they give him a biopsy on his lungs.
He flatlines on the table while they're doing the biopsy, right?
So they end up resuscitating him, and he's fine.
You know, they do the biopsy, they get the results back.
And I'm going up there, and all our friends are going up there and seeing that guy
every chance we get.
Like, I basically was living at the hospital at one point, you know, watching the Cowboys
games at the hospital with them, just bringing them food, just, I mean, that was my dog.
You know, and I really, like, at that time, I was still hustling, but, like, I put all that shit to the side.
Like, I had enough little money.
I can't remember the exact amount, but I had enough money that, like, all my bills were paid.
We were taking, you know, all my responsibilities were taking care of.
So I was able to just, like, bro, I'm here for you, you know.
And they end up letting them out of the hospital.
And they're like, look, you're recovering.
Things are getting better.
But they told them, like, your days are limited.
Like, make the most out of them.
you know, if it keeps regressing like this, you can probably live to your 30, between 30 and 40.
We're like 22 at the time.
And like, he's like, okay.
So, you know, and he had told me, which is not really prevalent to this story, but he had told me what he saw when he flatlined, you know.
And he was dead.
I can't remember the exact amount of time.
He was dead for a few minutes.
And he was a huge Kobe Bryant fan, right?
And he said that when he flatlined that he was on a big cruise ship and that everybody was there, I was there, all his friends were there, his parents were there, Kobe Bryant was there.
And he said that it was so great that he didn't want to leave.
And he just felt so peaceful.
And I'm like, damn, man.
So, you know, and of course, he's right here with me.
So I'm making light of it.
I'm like, bro, you're the only person that would die and want to hang out with Kobe Bryant and stuff like that.
You know, so he, they end up letting him out of the hospital.
So his birth, I think he got out like the day before his birthday, right?
Which another thing is crazy.
My mom passed away.
And, you know, when we talk about like God, the universe, all that stuff, my mother and
C. Rich died a year apart from each other.
And they were born on the same day, like 35 years apart, which is just like a crazy
coincidence, you know.
So it's the day before his birthday.
and everybody's like, oh, man, y'all need to throw a concert for his birthday.
And I'm like, no.
Like the doctor said he needs to stay off his feet, that his lungs are still, like, trying to hill.
He had just got a piece of them cut off for a biopsy.
Like, nah, you know, I'm going to take, you know, we can go over to his house or y'all can come to my house.
We'll order some food.
Because I wouldn't even, I was on some shit, like, because his parents had moved to Dallas at the time.
And like, so I'm like, you know, awesome keeping them in line.
type shit like bro you can't do this you can't do that but unfortunately a lot of the people in the
social circle we're like bro it's your birthday we got to turn up we got all this bullshit right so like
I remember we kind of got into an argument about it I'm like bro you heard what the doctor said like
don't go you know so he ends up they throw this big party for him they rent this venue out
and one of our other mutual friends throws this huge party for him and they're making flyers and at this
time sharing them on my space.
So I can't be late to my own birthday party and all this shit.
Goes to the birthday party.
It's like smoking, popping pills, just getting fucked up.
And then the next day, he wakes up and he's just coughing up blood again.
So he goes back to the hospital.
I go up there and I see him.
And, man, like, it really fucks me up to think about it.
But, like, when I went in there and I saw him, he was just, like, so pale.
And he was, man, he's such a good dude.
He was in such good spirits, you know, considering the fact.
I don't know if he had already came to terms with it.
You know, my perspective on an outlook on life was totally different, you know, 15 years ago.
Right.
You know.
And, but I remember I walked in and he was holding, laying on a hospital bed,
he had a big bowl on his chest.
And he was just coughing up his blood in it.
Yeah, man.
It was fucked up.
And, like, so we're sitting there talking, and then out of nowhere, the nurse walks up,
and it's like, you need to leave talking to me.
You need to leave right now.
So I'm like, all right, all right.
So, like, me and C. Rich are, like, laughing about it, joking about it.
And we're, like, texting each other, like, on the way out.
He's like, if anything happens to me, the nurse didn't.
He's joking, of course.
But, you know, just I get in the elevator.
I was like, hey, visitation, was it, like, seven or nine for the hospital hours.
I was like, I'll be back tonight, bro.
Love you.
Stay up.
He's like, cool, yeah, I love you.
Thank you for coming.
And then, man, I end up waking up to a bunch of missed calls from another one of our mutual friends.
And they're like, that full flat line.
They're trying to resuscitate them right now.
So, like, me and my son's mom rush up to the hospital.
And then a couple minutes after we got there, like, they came out to the waiting room, the doctor did.
He was like, hey, man, he passed away.
And everybody kind of looked at each other, broke down.
But then, like, I had to tell his parents because I was, like, his closest friend.
So I had to be the one that called.
His mother and father were already on the way because they heard he was back in the hospital.
So they were rushing down there.
And, like, I remember I called.
And I was like, hey.
And she was like, asked me.
He died, didn't he?
And I'm just like, yeah.
And man, that shit was so fucked up.
that was like a real life-changing moment for me, you know, I, I just, it didn't change me
enough to completely reevaluate my life, but it kind of like, I quit doing the concert
promotion thing. After he passed away, I quit selling or associating myself with any hard
drugs, and then I just became a strictly weed guy, right? So,
I just kind of realized, like, how fragile life is.
Yeah.
And then, like, I kind of laid off, like, well, you know, I will be honest.
I was still taking pills, like Xanax and hydrocodones and shit.
But then, like, less than a year later, my mom dies out of nowhere.
Like, just she, you remember Finfin, the diet pill back in the day?
So she took it back in the 90s and it gave her heart damage, right?
And, man, just over the years, like, she was having.
having heart damage, the heart damage was just messing with her heart.
She had high blood pressure, and, like, it really, it just finally took its toll on her.
She kept getting worse and worse and worse.
So it's like, after Searich died, I'm really on my musical grind hard.
And this is when, like, I start doing songs with, like, big Texas rappers, right?
And so I'm really focusing on this shit and just selling weed.
And, like, so there was this record label that's based in Houston.
and I'd went on tour with Tech Nine.
He's like the biggest independent rapper in the world, right?
And like he had the hostile takeover tour.
And like he had like three or four Texas dates.
And like I opened on every one of them.
And like so I'd done those shows.
And then like the footage, it was kind of YouTube was younger,
but the footage kind of got around.
And I released a song with one of the big artists at Strange Music.
and this record label in Houston called me.
And they're like, hey, we saw your footage from the tour,
and we listened to some of your music.
Do you want to come down and have a meeting?
Maybe we can talk something out.
So I'm like, okay, my mom had been feeling bad.
Like, she had been, like, going to the doctor here and there,
but I didn't think she was about to die or anything, right?
And she didn't either.
My dad didn't.
She would just go into the doctor.
They'd check her heart.
They'd say, oh, you know, you'll be fine.
You just need to take some of this and take less of that and all this shit, right?
So I go to the meeting in Houston.
I sit down with the record label owner.
We talk about stuff, you know.
And right before I went out of town, I told my parents, like, hey, when I get back, you know, we'll go to dinner.
And at this time also, like, my parents have always been a huge part of my life.
because we're all we got truly just our intermediate family.
Like me being half Hispanic and half white, as fucked up as it is,
like my white side of the family, most of them, kind of disown my mother for marrying
a Mexican man.
And then my Mexican side of my family, a lot of them disown my father for marrying a
white woman.
And like also, yeah.
He's getting it from both ends.
Yeah.
And also it's like my pops was raised, which he's no longer a Jehovah's Witness.
He never really was, but he was raised Jehovah's Witness.
Right.
And then my mother was like, you know, Tampa, Southern Baptist, you know, from Tampa,
she moved to Shreveport, Louisiana.
So it's like, and, you know, those are kind of conflicting.
Jehovah's Witness people are very much like, you know, abide by strict rules,
and you don't date somebody out of your religion or marry someone out of your religion.
I don't even think they date, you know, just you don't marry somebody out of your religion.
So it was just, so I didn't really have, though, the connection with my,
my family like that. And every time I would go to my mother's family, uh, like my grandma and stuff
like that, um, they didn't fuck with me, you know, I'm seeing how good they're doing like all the
white kids, you know, and they're just kind of like, you know, I'm chopped liver. I never felt
welcome there, you know. So as soon as I got the opportunity when I was like 15, 16 and my mom's
like, hey, we're going to go to grandma's house for Christmas. Do you want to stay? Yeah, I'm going to
day. I'd rather sit here on Christmas alone than go to chill at their house and feel like I'm,
you know, the outcast, you know. So I wanted to note that. So like anytime I'm around and at this
time my parents know what I'm doing for the most part. And my mom would always just say,
don't call me when you go to jail. But she was still cool with me. Like I'd come over. She'd like,
don't be smoking that shit at my house and don't be bringing weed over here. She eventually was cool
with that too. It turned into like, if you're going to come over here, y'all better just smoke in the
garage or smoke outside. And then when she started feeling like shit, like she would get pain pills,
like her own script. And like, so she'd pop them too. So I'd be able to call her and be like,
hey, Madre, you know, I, I'm out of pills. Can I have, you know, five or six pills? And when I go
back, get back to Houston, I'll give you five or six pills. She's like, cool, you know.
So they were really aware, but they knew I was trying to do something better for myself. They
knew at this time. Like, I was already, I was really hard on the music shit. So I remember telling
them like, hey, I got this meeting in Houston. When I get back, let's all go to dinner. And
they're like, okay, cool. You know, I left. Got back home real late. Like, I got home at like
four o'clock in the morning because I drove back at each way after the meeting. And I go to sleep.
And then I wake up. And my son's mom wakes me up. And she's like, your dad's on the
phone and I can just tell by the look on her face that something's wrong you know yeah and like she's
like trying not to cry and then uh I'm like my dad's on the phone I look at my phone and I've literally
got 30 missed calls for my dad he's been calling me like every fucking minute for two hours right and uh
but we were asleep and like uh I talked to my dad and I'm just like what's up and then I can just
tell by like his his voice that like I for some reason I already know.
knew, you know, without knowing, he was like, hey, I had to take your mom to the hospital last
night and you need to get up here. The doctor said she's not going to make it. So I'm like,
what the fuck? So like, we get in the car, we fly to the hospital. I walk in there, my mom's
in her hospital bed, fucking tubes down her throat, all sorts of shit in, like all her vital
organs have pretty much quit working at this point. And like, the rest of my families are
there like all her family's there and like I've got a half sister and a half brother that like
my my half brother you know he's not a good dude uh my half sister you know she's cool we're not
super close but I mean we grew up together for a while and they're already they're already there
and like so I remember like walking up to my mom and she can't really say anything right you know
and this is one thing that's always really fucked me up is that
you know, she would always tell me, I'm her baby.
I was her love child because she was actually in love with my father.
Right.
You know, she was like, I never loved my ex-husband, but I really love your dad and you're
my child of love.
You're my baby.
That's why I would get away with more shit than they would, you know.
And I remember her sitting up in the bed and she starts like trying to pull the hose out
of her mouth and she's grabbing my arm like, get me out of here type shit.
And I had to basically tell her like, no, mom, just lay down.
You can't go.
which it just really fucks me up
is that I'm basically like
you just have to lay here
it's time for you to die
right and like
because of course if I could
I would have taken her with me
and like bro swear
you know
told her how much I loved her
and then like
talked to her
held her hand
and then like walked out of the room
when the doctors came in
and like literally
less than five minutes later
she died
it's like she was just hanging on
long enough
you know
to see me
and her and her and my son's mother were, like, super close, you know, like, my now ex-wife, you know, we were together for 15 years.
And, like, so she was basically, like, family to my family, you know, and to this day, we're still close, like, you know, we're friends, we co-parent, you know, she's cool.
She's really helped me through a lot of shit, too.
And so, like, that shit is when I, like, made a change, you know?
After that happened, after we buried my mom, I was, like, I got to let go of these drugs.
I got to let go of these pills.
And at that time, like, which I, pain pills, I would manage.
But I was getting real bad off on Xanax, you know.
And then I'd already, I'd started, like, I'd got robbed a couple times at this point.
you know nothing super crazy with just people like kind of jacking me getting a gun pulled out here
and there meeting somebody and them grabbing the shit and taking off running and getting in a car
and like so I'm like man I got a uh just and a lot of it was just because I was so high all the time
on downers that like I couldn't see what was about to happen right so I end up like detoxing
like I just quit taking Xanax cold turkey which I didn't know you're not supposed to do that
You know, so, like, I was having seizures and all sorts of shit.
It was scary as hell.
I ended up finding out afterwards from the people that lived across the street for my parents,
the one that I was telling you about at lunch.
She was the head of, like, health and kinesiology at TJC, and she's really in touch with, like, health stuff in the human body.
And I told her that I got off of them.
And she was, like, you're lucky you didn't die.
Like, you're supposed to do that under, like, medical supervision.
So I dropped the Xanax habit.
I would still take the pain pills here and there, but I dropped the Zanz and then feel so much better.
You know, like I was broken for a while because it was like, man, I was still waking up depressed almost every day because my best friend had died.
And then I finally start getting back into the flow of life and now my mother dies.
And like all while this has happened and I'm still trying to sell weed.
I'm still doing all these shows with these.
rappers and all this type of shit and like just putting on a face you know but really i was
depressed as fuck and like uh so i kind of cleaned i quit doing the zanz and i'm like this is it
like i'm going to focus on this music shit full force um and that's just what i'm going to do so
at this time also this is how i got into the jewelry stuff my my guy shout out won treasures
Tyler, Texas, that's my boy, my brother taught me everything I know about jewelry.
I went to him and I got a chain made, like just a custom chain.
And then like I'd pop out with the chain on.
And then when I'm opening for people, you know, jeezy, tech nine, little Wayne, these people,
they're like, you know, if not them, people in their entourage will be like, hey, man,
who did that chain?
Because my guy is so cold with it, he was killing.
the craftsmanship, he's based in Tyler, Texas, and he's killing these Houston jewelers
at that time.
You know, he's killing these guys in L.A.
So everywhere I went, people are asking me who did my chain.
So I started like middlemanning chains.
Like, I'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, I'll do your piece.
Let me get you all the shit.
And I would just pocket a little bit of money.
And then, but then Juan's like, bro, let me just put you on game.
I'm going to teach you everything.
So he taught me about cuts, clarity, settings, everything.
he's like and then you know we'll send you out there and you can just start representing us and
just get clientele so at this time i start flying to la a lot but it's because i meet a plug in
l.A so i just start buying weed from l.A. and just shipping it to myself in tyler so like once a month
twice a month i'm going out to los angeles and at those days i was only buying like 10 20 pounds at
the time. But like I said, we then was like 4,000 a pound, 3,000, you know, it'd be a good
price if I'm getting them for 17, 1800 and then selling them, you know, I'm making 35, 4,000,
you know, so it was cool money and I'm doing it twice a month, you know. So, but I also start
getting in rooms with the right people at this time. So like, I end up like linking up with
young buck from g unit you know who uh with 50 cents label and then uh he gets a piece from me
and then that led to me doing a piece for 50 cent and doing the unit pieces for all those guys
and then it just led to word and mouth me doing a chain for tie dollar sign so in my mind i'm
like this shit's really about to take off like i'm making money doing jewelry my social media is
going crazy because every week or two you see a picture of me and rick ross me and 50 cent
me and tie dollar sign. So it's like the clout's coming at all time high. So it's like life is just
going great. It was the first time that I felt happy in like a really long time. You know,
and I, um, I was, I told my pops and I told my son's mom like, this is it. Life's going to change.
I'm going to use this as like a stepping stone to, uh, make people take my music more seriously.
And I'm going to, uh, just keep flooding the game with jewelry and I'm just going to sell weed.
until, you know, until I don't have to anymore.
And I remember one day I was in tears, right?
Because, like, I had done the Black Bottle Boys piece for Rick Ross.
And, like, I was talking to his VP at Maybat Music Group.
And, like, they put it all over their social medias, took pictures of it.
And, like, we're tagging me and shit.
And, like, that led a lot of traffic to my page.
And, like, I remember they called me and they told me that they wanted another piece.
And I remember just, like, breaking down in tears.
I was just so happy.
Oh, okay.
That, like, what are you upset for?
No, no, I was just, I was just, I was so happy.
You know, I've just been, I think I've really kind of been searching for validation my whole life and inanimate objects.
And, and, you know, and that was like a huge, you know, this guy, Rick Ross, he's one of the biggest artists in the world.
He can buy jewelry from anybody, but he's wanting me to do his piece, you know.
So I remember just being so happy.
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I had reached out to a young buck, right?
Just randomly reached out to him on Instagram.
And he's no longer with G-Unit, but he was with 50s label, 50s label.
I reached out to him and I was like, hey, man, you know,
a picture of some of my work. I'd love to do a piece for you. And he had sent me a picture.
He's like, man, if you do a piece for me, he basically said, if you hook me up, you know,
with a piece, I'll put you in contact with the boss, right? So I did him a piece. He had a clothing
line called Dope Boy University. And his logo was like a baking soda box with like his logo on it.
I got some pictures of it up on my IG too. But like, so I give him the piece, beautiful piece, right? He
loves it and i ended up getting really cool with young buck you know he ended up going back he had
his own legal stuff going on and uh he went he went back to jail like uh probably about a year
before i did just he's he's home now he's doing great but like uh but i can ask question so baking soda
they use baking soda to make crack right oh yeah okay oh yeah i forget you're just a fraud guy
i know like oh yeah yeah definitely uh that's what i thought yeah yeah yeah
You whip it up with cocaine and turns it into crack, cocaine, you know, which has never been my thing.
I'm just saying it's like, yeah.
So that's probably demonetization.
But, no, but we, I did that piece for him.
And like, he was in L.A. when I was in L.A.
So I'm like, man, let's link up.
I'll give you the piece.
So I gave him the piece.
He loved it.
He was like, damn, like, I'm going to put you down with 50.
And like, and a lot of people will say they'll do.
things and they usually don't, not usually, but it's 50-50, right?
But I end up getting really cool with Young Buck.
Like, every time I'd fly in and out to L.A. to re-up and shit.
And I'm like, hey, hey, what are you doing, Buck?
He's like, man, I'm just chilling at Tennessee.
I'm like, no, hey, come out to L.A.
You know, I'm out here.
And he would come out and, you know, we get a hotel at the Portofino and Manhattan Beach
and just like, you know, just chill and go out and shit like that.
So he ends up telling me like 50 wants some pieces for the United States.
And that's like, it used to be G unit, but then they switched to another label, and I guess they
changed it to the unit.
But he was like, look, he wants one for everybody in the clique, like for himself, Tony Yale, Lloyd
Banks, kid, kid, myself, all that shit.
So I'm like, all right, bet.
He goes, but look, he ain't going to pay if he don't like them.
So you got to have to make them first and bring them out.
And you can come to the show with, it was at the electric factory in Philadelphia.
you. So it's like I get all the pieces made. I catch a flight to the electric factory. It's like a big
venue. And so this was always crazy. So I went in there and, you know, I told Young Buck I was here.
He let me, like in the back door of the arena. And like, so I'm just chilling. It's G units there
with all the, all the members. And there's like a bunch of women there and just homeboys there.
Everybody's smoking, drinking, smoking blunts, drinking Hennessy and shit.
And so I'm like, hey, man, I got these pieces in my backpack.
You know, just let me know when you want them.
He was like, give me a minute.
So he goes next door, and I see him knock on a door, right?
And there's probably like 50 people out there.
And everybody's like playing pool and spoke him.
Music's blaring and, like, backstage.
And he knocks on a door and he walks in.
He doesn't hold the door all the way open.
He just slips in.
And then, like, he comes back out.
He was like, hey, 50 said, you can go in now.
So I was like, all right, swear to God, we walk in this room.
All these guys are, like, you know, smoking and drinking, 50's in there with like a fucking bonsai tree, like a soft oriental music, like soothing music on.
He's got his laptop open, gets up, shakes my hand like a businessman.
He's like, you want hot tea, you want a coffee, you want all these other guys are outside drunk, you know, smoking weed.
He's just like, I don't do any of that stuff.
I'm just looking over some reports that I guide.
And I was like, oh, here's the jewelry.
And he shows, he's like, man, I love it.
You know, the nicest major rapper I've ever met.
Like, super cool.
We sat there and talked to him for like 30 minutes.
Like, one of my buddies was with me.
He was really into, like, trading stocks.
And at that time, 50 was just coming off as selling the vitamin water stuff.
And it got a huge check.
And like, so he just sat there and he's talking about stocks, bonds, dividends, a bunch of shit I don't know anything about.
And he's just talking to us, like the way I'm talking to you and he's just like, hey, you guys want to stay for the show?
I was like, hell yeah.
Dude put us like in the pit.
Like here's the crowd's all right here.
Here's the security guards.
And we were like right there in the stage.
And he was cool as fuck.
You know, so, you know, he paid for his chains, you know, and no problem, no run around.
and so that was a good relationship and that all just came based on you know one connection to another
I also knew because when I was doing my musical shit when it was really jumping I'd
linked up with some people from Atlantic Records and like I was talking to them about like a radio
deal and we're going back and forth I ended up catching my charge before anything could come to
fruition but I'd met up with one of the A&Rs over there he's actually the VP now the vice president
of Warner Music, but, you know, I developed a relationship with him. I sold him. His wife's
engagement ring, too. Like, they were all, they'd buy jewelry from me. And he was breaking an artist
Ty Dollar Signs huge. He just did the joint album with Kanye West a couple months back. But this
was back when Ty Dollar Sign really wasn't, you know, going too crazy. And like, he was just
coming out. And so, do you swear to God. So he tells me on the phone, he's like, yeah,
I'm out here, they were in Dallas. He's like, I'm out here trying to break
Ty Dollar Sign, taking them to radio stations to get him to break through. And he was like,
but he'll be with me if you want to meet him. So I'm like, all right, bet. So I get online,
I look up Ty Dollar Sign. I've never even heard of him. And I hear all his singles. And so when
I meet up with him, I'm like, dude, Ty, bro, nice to meet you. I love that song. Paranoid
you got. And he's like, oh, thanks, bro. I didn't even know people were banging that in Texas.
and so, you know, me, he's, he's from L.A., he's from Cali.
So me and him get cool.
And I'm like, hey, bro, let me know.
I'll do you a piece.
And, like, so we exchange information.
And he ended up getting that Thai dollar sign piece that I think I was showing Colby
earlier that was on my Instagram.
But it's like, what do these pieces cost?
It just depends.
Like, I've had some artists who I won't put them on blast,
but I've had some of them that are like, I want it sterling silver and I don't want
real diamonds in it. Right. You know. And then like dudes like Rick Ross are like it needs to be 18
carat gold and it needs to be the best fucking diamonds you can get. Like I don't want no bullshit.
But I have had some artists that, you know, they only want to spend $2,500,000, you know,
$3,000. And then you got some people like the boss, Ricky Rose, like you tell them $50,000,
70,000 here, you know, keep the change type shit. So it's just it varies.
You know, now, given I hadn't made many pendants in the past couple years, but now I see a lot of these guys that are going to these celebrity jewelers paying $300,000 for a chain, $400,000 for a chain.
And it's crazy to me because I still understand the business, even though I don't make chains to the rate that I used to.
And I'm like, bro, they got 9,000 percent margins on that shit.
How are they justifying these prices?
from their name like there's a lot of jewelers
that are like really big and trendy on social media
one place in particular out of Atlanta
and like bro everybody will go out there
and get a piece and they'll pay
eight times nine times ten times what it worth
what it's worth I'm like bro you go into them and paying half a million
I could have done that for you for 75,000
I would have done it for 150,000 you know
but you know there's a good and bad
And then you also got to look out now a lot of these jewelers are using moistenites, which are fake.
They're a stone that'll test as a diamond on a diamond tester.
And so a lot of people, they're getting these chains and they're busting them down,
and then they'll put like half real diamonds and half moistenites.
So then like when you hit it with the pin, it passes every time.
And there's been a lot of jewelers that have been busted doing that.
Major jewelers, been scamming people out of millions of dollars.
doing that. So if anybody's
watching, look out for the Moistenites.
All right. You know.
Through one of Tech Nines artists,
Stevie Stone, great dude,
he introduced me to this dude.
This is when shit starts to get dicey.
All right. So he introduces me to this guy.
God rest his soul also.
Hollywood Will.
Great guy. Great rapper.
So, and Will, like, gets a piece from me.
He was like, man, Stone said you could do me a piece.
And I was like, yeah, I got you.
just send me what you want. So I do the piece for him. So he was out in Vegas. And he's like,
hey, man, you know, if you ever, if you ever come out to Vegas, let me know, you know, we can
link up. I end up melanom the piece. And I'm like, hey, man, I heard the weed game is kind of
crazy out there. And he was like, oh, yeah, it's cool. Like, I don't really fuck around much,
but I know a couple people that do. One of my best friends does, if you want, I can put you in
contact with them. I'm like, bet. Let's do that. You know, so because at this time, you know, I'm
going straight to the sources in Cali and I'm getting decent numbers. I'm killing them in Tyler
with it. And I'm like, but in so many people all the time are telling me, oh, I can do you better
numbers. I can do. And but I still hear people out, you know, so I hear this dude out. I happen
to be in Los Angeles, right? I was in Los Angeles for probably.
re-uping or taking somebody some jewelry and Will calls me and he said hey my boy is in
L.A. He's shooting a music video with French Montana. If you want to meet him, you can go to the
video shoot. So I'm like, cool. Go to the video shoot, you know, I meet the guy, white guy,
cool dude. And like, he's on big dog shit. You know, he's like, he goes, yeah, man, you know,
my bro told me about you. Like, how many, how many do you want? And I'm thinking,
thinking like 10, 20, he's like, you want 100, you want 200? And I was like, shit, we're going to
start with 100. He's like, bet, just text me the address. It'll be at your house. Give me two or three
days. So I'm like, this fool's full of shit, you know, I didn't believe any of it. And I was like,
well, how much are they? He was like, $1,000 apiece. $1,000 a piece in 2011, bro, this is when
I really came up, you know? So I'm like, all right, man, whatever. He called me one morning. I was
asleep. He was like, do you get that off your porch yet? I was like, get it off my, nah,
I'm asleep. He's like, well, go get that shit off your porch and call me back after you open
it up. I go outside and there's two moving boxes that are like three and a half feet tall
come up like almost to my chest just huge and they're just full, full of pounds. And this dude
was so reckless that like, you know, he went in double vacant and double box and shit.
He were literally, bro, one time I got a box and he only put one strip of tape.
over the top so the box had just caved in and you just see packing peanuts and there was
fucking 25 pounds in the box and they're just like so real reckless but when shit we had a
couple times that packs would get snagged and he would just be like oh bro fuck it don't worry about it
just get me another address i'll send another 25 out yeah he's probably making so much money was it
matter oh yeah bro that's the first time really that's the only time that i'd seen anybody with a
million cash like and this dude was just so now I get real cool with this guy you know and he's
spending money hand over fist he's you know it's a it's a you know um a relationship to where
he's always wanting to buy jewelry and like so he's like hey man I need this for my girl I want
this for myself I need two custom pieces these are the logos I want for them just get it
together and just let me know how much I owe you so it's like I'd get it all together me and
Juan would track this shit down, and I'd be like, hey, Juan, get me a price on the piece.
Like, let me know with the gold weight, the clarity count, or the stone count, clarity, all that.
And I'd call them, I'd be like, hey, bro, everything will be 85,000 or something.
He's like, all right, cool, you want the cash, or do you want, you want to just get it in
pounds?
So in my mind, I would always take it in pounds because I'm like, you know, 85 racks, you know,
at $1,000 apiece on the pounds that I can turn into, you know, and I can get it.
get 2,000, 3,000 for the pounds, it's a win-win.
So we just start going crazy, you know.
And so I'm always flying to L.A.
Like I said, he's a musician.
I don't know what happened to him.
I didn't talk to him since I came home, but he was a musician.
So he would come on tour with me, you know, when I'd have show opportunity because
this turns into like, that's my dog.
So I'm like, hey, bro, I got to open for so-and-so in Portland.
You want to do a song on my set?
and he'd be like, cool.
So we start just rocking real hard and my money's up now.
You know, I do that for like two or three months strong, maybe like six.
And like, so it got to the point that this is like the first time in my life that I've got
more than just like 10,000, 15,000.
Like, this is like I got 30 racks underneath my son's bassinet.
I got 30 racks in cereal boxes.
Right.
I got 50,000 bucks in a monopoly box in plain sight just on a shelf with board games.
Right. And I remember. And then to top it off, I got 100 pounds in the house. And, you know, it's Texas baby.
And look, I've never been on no, you know, pretending to be a gangster or a thug or any of that shit.
But I had a lot of guns. But like my guns were all legitimate. I don't fuck around with any of that bullshit.
And I'm not out trying to hurt people. But I did have a lot of guns. And I remember,
Thinking of myself and I told my my son's mother, I was like, hey, we got it, we got to move.
You know, she was like, why?
And I was like, man, just there's too much money here.
I got guns here even though they're legal.
Even though I didn't know anything about the justice system, I know that guns, drugs, money, bad.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's a bad combination.
Hell yeah.
So I'm like, we got to get out of here.
We got to change it up.
Let's move to California.
Right.
She's like, okay, well, I'm down.
you know, we can do that.
So I go to my dad, I tell him, hey, pops, I want to open a dispensary in L.A.
And, you know, I want you to come with me.
My mom had just passed away.
He had been with my mom for 22 years at that point, I think.
The only woman he had ever been with, he was just, he was a widower.
And so he was just alone.
So I'm just like, all right, you know, I want you to come with me.
We can do a family operated dispensary.
He's like, cool, if you get it set up, I'll go.
So I was like, all right.
So I go, I fly out to L.A.
And I meet with like a weed attorney, right?
And I sit down and he gives me all the laws.
At this time, it was a medical dispensary.
And so he tells me all the laws and everything and how to, how to get the permits and how to
set stuff up.
And so I'm like, look, bro, how much do you want for this just to be like a turnkey operation?
Right.
You know, I'll just give you the cash.
You do all that shit.
I don't have to file stuff with estate.
and he only wanted like $8,000.
Now to open a dispensary in Cali,
you're looking at a million plus
because of how expensive the permits are,
but medical was different.
So he's like, cool,
give me a couple weeks,
give me $8,000, I'll make it happen.
So meanwhile, I go back to L.A.
And like, you know, I'm filling myself.
You know, I got money,
the music shit's going great,
the jewelry shit's going great.
And I remember driving down the street.
I had a Kia Soul, right?
That was like the car
that I was driving, a little hamster car.
You remember the commercials?
Right, yeah.
Okay, so it's like, I got a Kia Soul.
I'm going down the road, and I'm doing math in my head, just why the music's playing.
And then I'm like, damn, I made like $50,000 this week, which just my, blew my fucking mine, right?
Because I had sold a bunch of jewelry to that guy.
I'd been selling pounds, and I'm like, and keep in mind, like, I only, I didn't nickel and dime.
I was just selling, you know, or fronting, like, 10 pounds to this guy, 10 pounds.
of that guy, you know, come back next week, bring me the money type thing.
And so I wasn't like in the street standing on the corner.
Like as far as for public appearance, everybody just thought that I was thriving on the
jewelry and music shit.
They didn't know that I was just really just making a majority of my money off weed.
Right.
But I remember I was going down this road in Tyler called Rones Quarter.
And it's a moment that sticks out of my mind.
And all of a sudden, I just like slam on my brakes.
and then like my son's mom was like
what are you doing? I said man
I'm about to go buy a Mercedes
like I'm done with this Kia shit
I make too much money for a Mercedes
or for a Kia
no shade of Kia just I was young and stupid
I was like 24 so I bust a
U-turn go to the Mercedes dealership
I'm talking to
to the lady at the Mercedes dealership
she was cool as hell
and and I told her
you know like we were looking at stuff
And all I could really afford then was a C-300, you know, which was like, it was like a 20, 2018, or no, it was 2014, my bad.
And so I get the C-300 drive it for like probably two months.
And I tell her when I'm at the dealership, I'm like, hey, I'm going to be back and I'm going to get a G-wagon.
That's my dream car, right?
I'm like, I'm going to get a G-wagon.
I just marked my word.
She was like, well, hey, I'm here for you.
I'm still cool with the Mercedes dealership to this, or the Mercedes dealer to this day.
And she's like, I believe in you.
You know, I can tell, you know, which may have been just saleswoman tactics, but she's, you know, and she'd call me every couple weeks.
Like, hey, you know, let me know when you want that G-wagon.
So, because she was telling me on the G-wagons, they have to put in a, like, you have to, there's a waiting list for that shit, you know, to get a brand-new one, you know, off the, from the lot.
so she uh it's about a month and a half goes by two months maybe i'm still waiting for the dispensary
shit to all come to fruition and she calls me one day and i think she's just calling to uh to tell me
like check in with me and she was like hey did you still want that g wagon she kind of put me
on the spot and i'm just like well yeah that's my goal she was like well look i don't know your
money situation right now but a dentist in
Tyler ordered a G550, customized it, cappuccino dezino interior, it was black,
it was, and she was like, and he put a deposit on it.
He's been on a wait list for like two years.
The car came in.
He doesn't want it anymore.
So they told me that if I had any clients, I could call them.
If not, we got to ship it off to Dallas and give it to somebody else.
So I'm like, yeah, I'll come up there.
So, you know, I end up like, I call my pops, you know, because that's my.
That's my financial liaison, if you will.
And I'm like, hey, I don't think I can afford this, really.
Like, I can afford it in the long run, but I can't go drop $150,200 right now.
But, like, I'm like, can we go up there?
You know, I'm going to put a big down payment.
At this time, my credit's not existing.
The only thing on my credit is that I owe fast for fucking $14,000, you know?
So he's like, yeah, I'll come up there.
So my pops ends up like co-signing for me.
And dude, and this is how, like, naive and just oblivious to the world I am, I go up there with a backpack with cash in it, you know, and like, I'm in the sales office and I'm like, all right, you know, I got the down payment, throw my backpack off, unzip it, shake cash out.
They walk up, they shut the door.
They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We cannot take cash.
You can't pay.
I'm like, what the fuck?
You know, my mind's always been cash as king.
Right.
You know, they're like, no, like, you need to go somewhere and get a cashier's check.
for your down payment.
It's going to be hard to walk in and get a cashier's check, too.
It took me like three banks, you know, but finally, Chase was like, oh, $20,000 cashier's check
and a bunch of tens, fives, and 20s?
I'm not sure, no problem.
What do you do for a living?
I was like, I'm a jeweler.
I'm a stripper.
Yeah, basically.
Get the cashier's check, go up there, and, you know, get the car, come home.
So, and that's when I was like, we really got to get out of here now because we're renting
a house that's worth $140,000.
thousand bucks the car in the driveway is worth as more as the uh is worth as much as the uh
house the house yeah so everything comes together boom the dispensary shit gets right and we all
just pack up and we move right when i get to la like the guy that i was getting the big weight
from that was from Vegas right uh he quits answering my calls you know and i'm like damn i'm one
stayed over why is this guy not answering my calls he get busted no i got to
call from another number and they're like, hey, your boy told me to call you, said don't call his
phone. Will, the guy introduced me to him, got killed last night at his video shoot. And he doesn't
know what's going to happen. So he's just completely let the game go. And I'm like, got killed last
night. So like, I end up finding out that he's at the video shoot and they were shooting a video. It was
It was at the MGM or, I think it was the Hugh Hefner Suite at the Palms or the MGM or something.
Because like I said, these dudes were bawling.
So he's written the rooms that are like 20K a night and shit, shooting a music video in it.
And then something happened apparently where he had gotten a fight with somebody.
And the dude had hired one of his friends to be security.
And he pulled the gun out to break up a fight, which is the stupidest shit ever.
pull a gun out to break up a fight and then it went off and he shot him in the chest and the
dude died right so uh I was like damn so that shit kind of fucked me up too I wasn't as close to him
but he was a great guy great heart you know he wasn't really involved in any of that shit he was
just a musician also he was just trying to make it he was just living an honest life hard worker
he just was around people that you know were after low hanging fruit and so basically now I'm in
Cali, and my plan was to use his bud to sell at the dispensary. So now I really don't have like
a plug plug out there. So it didn't take me long. You know, found, bro, when you open a dispensary,
like, and in mind, this is like 14, 15, they would send like sales reps to you. Like, I work for
so-and-so farms and we've got five new strands that'll be available next week. And, hey, we brought
you a couple samples of our last harvest and here's our prices and you know and these dudes are
like showing up you know suit tie or sending emails with pictures and shit and uh so it was easy to find
somebody out there so everything's going great living life you know selling um um at the dispensary
my pops works for me my son's mom worked for me i had a badass penthouse in the miracle mile
district at the Palazzo East, you know, life's going great. Like, you know, we're killing the
business. L.A. Times puts this as number one new growing dispensary. Like we were on, we were
in the top five. And like, and I'm like, life can't get me better, you know. So are you able to,
are you directing, getting a lot of people directed because of the music connections too? Is that
helping? I mean, well, it kind of, I'm kind of doing that on the side. What really jumped off the
weed dispensary was this app called weed maps.
Right.
And like, so weed maps is something, which it may be, I don't even know if it still
exists now, but it's kind of like you, it's like a GPS and you can pull out weed
maps and you can look at it and it'll show you all the dots of the dispensary is near
you.
Right.
And like, so really, I didn't have a brick and mortar store.
Everything was just delivery, you know, because there was no overhead.
I already have crazy overhead from the penthouse I got.
And like, so we just do all deliveries.
and like so we put three different points on the map and like so all day long from the time that we were in business at 8 a.m. till we closed at 8 p.m., you know, just, and I was doing all of that by the book. You know, like I wasn't fucking around with that shit. At that time, you had to get the people's medical marijuana card. You had to, you know, have them fill out papers to give you consent to be their caregiver. They had to join your collective. And, you know, you know,
all that shit was on board where I was fucking up is I was still smelling weed back to Tyler the whole
time you know and uh which was dumb bro like I was doing well enough with the dispensary that I shouldn't
have been doing that but like the the guy who uh ended up getting in trouble with all this well
there was a bunch of them that we all got in trouble but um you know he was like man don't leave me
hanging. So I'm just like, I won't, you know, I was, I was cool with him. He's a good dude. He's doing
great now. So everything was going great in L.A., you know, business is booming. You know, I'm
still, I'm sending stuff back to Texas, though. You know, one of my buddies that my main guy out
there, he was like, man, when you go to L.A., don't forget about me. Because at this time,
we're doing crazy numbers. And he's one of the two people. I had two guys out there that I was
dealing with on a big level. One of the guys right before I moved to L.A., great guy.
Dude had a great heart. He's going to be in prison for the rest of his life, but completely
unrelated. He battled with alcoholism real bad, hard worker, money getting dude, but he had like a
nine to five job, you know. It was like kind of like construction type of thing, but he'd come
by my house every day to pick up weed because all his coworkers would want to buy.
So every day after work, he'd call me, hey, I'm on my way over.
I need 10 ounces.
I need a pound.
I need a half pound.
And he's always, he's always paying cash.
And, like, he would show up sometimes, like, super drunk, right?
And I'm like, damn, bro, you just got off work.
And he's like, yeah, I had some liquor in the truck.
And I'm just like, bro, you got to be careful, right?
One day, he pulls up to my house.
He doesn't call me.
He, like, I just hear a car pull up.
I'm like, damn, that music sounds close.
He's so drunk.
And I live in a nice residential neighborhood.
I just got the G-Wagon.
This dude pulls up his trucks in my front yard, like in the grass, park sideways.
2 a.m. music Blair and subwoofers banging.
I was like, bro, turn the music down.
You know, he's like, sorry.
He's barely able to stand up and keep it together.
And so he comes in, I give him what he needs.
I'm like, hey, bro, you need to crash here tonight.
He was like, no, bro, I'm good.
I'm good. I'm good. I was like, bro, you need to crash here tonight. And he lived right
across the street, like right across the highway from me. And I can't remember if I gave him
a ride or if he spent the night, but I know he didn't drive home that night. The next day,
he called me that morning. He was like, damn, bro, sorry about that. I was fucked up.
And he was like, when I get off work, I got to come over tonight. My buddy needs something.
I'm like, all right, cool. I'll see you when you get here. Four o'clock is usually around when
I'd hear from when he gets off.
Well, it's like six or seven, and I hadn't heard from him.
And I'm calling him.
He's not picking up the phone.
And then I get a number, a call from a number I don't know.
And I answer it, and it's his girlfriend.
And she's like, hey, I got a really bad feeling.
I haven't heard from my guy, you know.
Somebody told me that there's a truck that looks like his that's wrecked on the road,
the highway right by y'all's house.
Can you drive by and see if it's him?
And I was like, yeah, sure, no problem.
Drive by, his car is like an accordion, right?
I get out.
He's on the stretcher talking to me in a neck brace.
And then it's poor and rain.
And like there's paramedics and cops everywhere.
And then there's helicopters going off.
And I'm like, where are y'all taking them?
They said, oh, we're taking them to Mother Francis Hospital.
And it was my good friend.
So I follow the ambulance to Mother Francis Hospital.
Well, I'm in the waiting room
And like I said, I was just about to move to Los Angeles at this time
Like in the next two or three days
And he's telling me, dude, let me take me with you to L.A.
They said, I killed three people.
I got to, and he's drunk as fuck.
He's like, I got to get out of here.
I'm like, damn, bro, you're good.
Just we'll figure it out.
He did.
He hit a teacher who had her two kids in the car
and a foreign exchange student in the car
and killed them all, right?
And, like, the state of Texas didn't take kindly to that, which, you know, that's a type of crime you shouldn't.
And, like, he did, his time wasn't running CC, it wasn't running concurrent.
They were stacking, like, 50 years for each one, you know, so he's got a, and he got aggravated vehicular manslaughter while intoxicated.
And so, you know, it's going to, he's going to have to do half that time.
He's going to have to make parole on each charge.
And he was already, like, 35 when he went in.
So once that happened, you know, I only had my one big customer left.
So I really wasn't.
I was just ready to get out, you know, move to L.A.
So I wanted to tell you that.
So back to L.A.
So everything's going great.
The dispensary is booming.
We're in the L.A. times running like a well-oil machine.
I'm still sending weed back to Tyler.
And it got to the point where, like, I'm sending.
so much that I think at first we were mailing the money, you know, and then I had a box
that was mailed and 10 grand was stolen out of it. Now, it was a small box. It wasn't a lot of
money. It wasn't like one of these packs with 40,000, 50,000. It was a, they had taken a big
painting, the canvas, wrapped it up, and they had put like 10 or 15,000 just in the middle of it.
And, like, they, uh, send it overnight. And I noticed, uh, I'm like, damn, it said it out for delivery.
It never showed up. I'm calling FedEx. Like, hey, my package isn't here yet. You know, can you let me know what's going on? And like, two hours later, a driver shows up. And then, like, I open it and everything's gone. It's just wet newspaper in a cylinder. So I'm like, yeah, we're not going to mail, uh, money anymore. Which, which another time, this is kind of funny. I had, uh, another plug that I fucked without an or
Oregon. And, like, he was, he was giving me big weight around the same time that the dude from
Vegas was. And so my guy from Vegas couldn't get with me, I would call my guy in Oregon.
And so he's sending me all this shit. And I'm just melling a money back, you know, and I'm
doing my shit, right. I'm triple vac in 50 grand, 40 grand, 30 grand, and I'm just overnighting
it to him. So one day, I remember, I send them $24,000 in cash, right? Double vac, then a box.
Well, and on the packing slip, I would put my real info.
I'd put my name, you know, my address, his name, where it's going.
And I would never put my phone number, but something told me I put his.
He called me one day and he's like, bro, I got a call from the Tarrant County Sheriff's Office in Texas,
and they intercepted that package.
They're telling me that it was addressed to me, and they need you to call them.
and I was like, call him.
I'm not about to fucking call him.
He was like, no, dude, he had a 1974 Plymouth feather duster for sale, right?
He goes, bro, I told him that the bank that I bank with isn't out here, so that you just
mail me the cash because you're going to come down next week and get the feather duster.
And I was just like, all right.
So I call an attorney first, and I'm telling them everything, just a random attorney that I found
online, you know, not who I ended up hiring.
And then he's like, yeah, just call them if the cops, like, are trying to question you or, like, seriously question you or tell you any bullshit, like, then call me.
But, you know, and he was explaining to me, if there's no crime, he was like, is it, is it ill gotten money?
I'm like, oh, no, I'm buying a feather duster, you know.
Right.
And so I call the Tarrant County Sheriff's Department.
I'm like, hey, you know, so-and-so told me that you called him that you had intercepted a package.
He was like, yeah, our dogs hit and all the money tested for MDMA, traces of MDMA.
I don't fuck with any of that shit.
So I'm like, man, I don't go near any of that.
I don't know anything about it.
So they're like, well, look, we're going to give you a call back in a couple days.
We've made a couple phone calls.
We got your name.
We just want to make sure that you're not tied up any investigations and everything checks out.
You can come pick up your money.
and which was the weirdest shit ever.
And like, so they call me back like two or three days later, which at this time, I'm really
not tripping over 24,000 bucks, you know, because I've got other money coming in.
I was just basically in my mind.
I chalked it up to taking a hell.
So they call me back.
They tell me, yeah, you can come out here and get your money.
We called a couple agencies and everything checks out and, you know, you're not on anybody's
watch list.
So, yeah, just drive on down to get it.
So I was like two hours for me.
It didn't even leave the state of Texas yet.
And man, I get there. I go into the room. They bring me out like a property form. I sign it. They count the money for me. Give it back to me. What was crazy, though, is I meld 24,000 in 20s, right? And it was just tons of 20s. They paid me back in hundreds. I thought that shit was really weird. They didn't pay me. And this never came up later on in my case or anything. I just thought it was really weird. They didn't even give me back the money that I sent, you know?
So, but yeah, anyway, I digress.
But once that happened, and then once I got my package jacked, I'm like, we can't
mail cash.
All right.
So here's when we're about to get into the meat of things, right?
So my guy and Tyler is like, well, how do you want me to get you the money?
I was like, look, I got a couple bank accounts.
I'm going to go and have my ex-wife open a bank account.
And I'm going to get my dad to open a bank account.
and just don't deposit more than $9,000 each time,
and we won't have to fill out any forms,
which I ended up finding out later.
That's what they called structure.
Structured drops or structured payments.
And so he's like, cool.
So like after the packages would go,
he'd go to this bank and drop $7,000,
this bank and drop $8,000.
The next day, go to this bank and drop $8,000.
And then like, and then once it got to me,
I'd basically, I guess, re-launder it myself because, like, I would take my dad's account
where the money was in the bank, and then I would write, he would write a check to me for the
amount, and then I'd put it in my other account.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So all that shit was cool.
You know, nothing ever happened.
Life's going good.
I'm still doing the music stuff.
When I was in L.A., everything kind of changed.
Like, I wasn't, I got kind of complacent, you know, and it kind of got to the point where, you know, I was like, man, I really felt like I was untouchable when I definitely wasn't.
Yeah.
But, like, so I'm just vac in pounds, and instead of double boxing it now, I'm just tying them in grocery bags.
So I'm losing packs here and there.
and um but one day i'm standing there with my dad and the phone rings and a local bank branch
from tyler was who was calling them and they said hey uh we just wanted to let you know that
uh so-and-so deposited 20 uh 26 or it was it was a shitload of money it was a little under 30
grand or 28 grand i can't remember the exact amount into your bank account this morning and it
smelled so strongly of marijuana that we couldn't put it back in circulation that uh and so my dad's like
looking at me like what the fuck because he's like okay but you own a dispensary right like can you can't use
but this is money from tyler oh okay you know this is this is my this isn't money that you
deposited no this is money what this is money that from the weed that i meld to tyler
when my guy had to make a payment in tyler he went and dropped it at a texas bank
And then so they're calling my dad while we're in L.A. telling them, hey, this money smells so strongly a wee, we couldn't put it back in circulation. And do, this is a small bank branch in the Bible Belt, right? It's just my dad had banked there since like 1997 and just always had that account. And then he ended up getting some of the bigger accounts, like big bank branches, you know. And so they were like, we just want you to know that we still put it towards your available balance. But we just.
wanted to let you be aware of it. So take note of it. So my dad hangs up the phone and he tells me and look,
I'm so complacent instead of that being a red flag to me. And like, and dude, I really, I realize
when I went to prison and just kind of had time to reflect that like I should have been better to
the people around me. You know, I was kind of just like super selfish and he's telling me this
And I'm like, bro, do we get the money or not?
Like, is it an L or not?
And he's just like, well, yeah, they said the money would be available.
So I'm like, cool.
And basically, like, what are we talking about then?
You know, when really I should have woke the fuck up.
Right.
You know.
I mean, they probably filled out a suspicious activity report, probably filled out a CCR.
They probably forwarded all that shit to the IRS and the DEA.
That is exactly when the house of cards started to fall, that moment right there.
And I found out later when I got my discovery packet.
That's what started everything.
So I called my guy and I'm like, hey, bro, why did you make such a big drop?
He was like, man, I just, I didn't have time.
You know, he was like, this shit's getting so time consuming going from point A to point B
and dropping money here, money there.
Like, bro, that shit takes me all day.
I was in a hurry.
So I just went and dropped it off through the drive-thru at the bank.
So imagine dropping like 30 bands through the drive-thru at a bank that wreaks of
weed. So we're like, okay, cool. So get back to it. Business as usual. You know, nothing really
exciting has happened. We're just on a routine. In about probably two or three weeks after that,
my guy and Tyler calls me and he's like, bro, I just got fucking pulled over, uh, leaving my house.
They tore my car apart, literally like took it apart. I was out on the side of the road for
a prolonged amount of time and they told me straight up like we know what you're doing we know who
you're dealing with we're coming for y'all like it's over it's a rap did you ask him who he was dealing
with you know so he's like he's telling me like uh bro we got we got to stop like they're on to us
they told me they know everything like we just got we got to chill and i'm like all right cool
let's chill so at that time the dispensary was still doing okay enough that i was just
I didn't really need to be doing that.
I did it out of greed.
And I did it because I didn't want to leave them hanging pretty much.
And so I was going to say, yeah, I'm sending you shit.
Like, you're the one who wanted it.
I don't need this.
And I also looked at it like, in my mind, another thing, I'm like, bro, I'm in California.
And like I said, I knew nothing about the judicial system.
So I didn't know the difference between state and fed and misdemeanors and felonies and all that shit.
So in my mind, I'm just like, bro, like, I'm in, I'm a business owner.
Cali. I was in my dispensary was in the L.A. Times. Like, they don't have nothing to do with what I got
going on. Right. You know. Uh, so he's like, yeah, I just want to, I want to stop. And I'm like,
that's fine. So goes back, business as usual. Um, life's still going cool. You know,
uh, the, the lease at the penthouse was ending and we were getting another, uh, apartment.
You know, we were like transitioning, but it was still in the same area. Right. And, uh, so,
in between that time we go back to Tyler and you know we catch up with family and friends and
my my buddy uh who I was dealing with he came over one time there was no there was no funny business
going on like he just came over I think we smoke we just caught up you know at this time bro like
seven eight months had gone by at least six months I can't remember an exact date but I know it was
more than six months where we hadn't done anything you know everything was
completely done. No bank drops. No melon shit. Nothing. And I thought it was just water under the
bridge. So he comes over and we just hang out. He leaves. Oh, and then also, so another one of my
buddies comes by. And, you know, because at this time, I'm still eating a shitload of pain pills,
you know. And one of my buddies comes by and I bought like a hundred hydrocodones off of
them. And so I just got them in a Ziplot bag on my dresser.
You know, so the next morning, about 5.30 in the morning, 6 o'clock, my son's mom wakes me up shaking me.
People are banging on the door.
They said it's the police.
I'm like, the police.
Like, keep in my mind, I hadn't broken any laws in forever, you know, nothing major that would warrant, a search warrant being served.
And so I was like, nah, I thought it was like somebody fucking with me or swatting me or, you know, because that time I kind of had a lot of people hating on me.
because I had made it out of the city
and was always with these rappers.
I had money and the Benzo and the watches and the chains
and mufflers are just salty about a lot of shit like that.
Right.
And as soon as I go to the door,
my whole life changed at that moment.
Front door blows open.
Literally, it's a still door off the frame,
like the frames cracked.
At first I thought I was getting robbed
because they all came in with ski mask on,
vest, the assault rifle,
you got the FBI there,
Smith County Sheriff's Department there,
Tyler PD.
My house was in White House, Texas,
which is like a suburb of Tyler.
One White House copped there.
Why, I have no idea.
You know, fucking dogs.
They had everything but fucking helicopters, right?
Streets blocked off.
I guess they thought I was going to run.
I was like 300 pounds in.
Where am I going to fucking go?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, and dude, yeah, I got the FBI
telling me to put my hands up
and not to move. At the
same time, Smith County's
telling me, get on your fucking knees
and interlock your hands. I'm like,
well, which is it?
What do I do? You know, like my son's
mom is like holding,
you know, our son was a year old
and she's just like cradling
him like in tears.
My dog is barking
his fucking ass off and I'm like, I'm just
telling, please don't shoot my dog. Please don't
shoot my dog. I still got that dog of this day.
All right.
Shout out Gizzard.
You know what I'm saying?
He's 16.
That's my dog.
So I finally, you know, everything gets de-escalated.
And the Fed walks up to me.
He goes, hey, we're here on a federal money laundering search warrant.
We're here to confiscate all your electronic devices.
And we're looking for money.
So I'm like, all right.
That's cool.
You know, he was like, I'll take you out of the cuffs once we clear the house.
So they got like me in the front yard and basketball shorts and weed socks.
I remember the fucking piece of shit from Smith County cops like yeah those socks are the reason
we're here I was like you're here for socks and he was like no the weed leaves on it and I'm like
okay and I just remember that being like a stupid ass fucking comment but but these dudes you know
are just pieces of shit you know the the dudes in the feds like they were very respectful very
kind they weren't trying to intimidate me they weren't calling me names they weren't disrespecting me
you know, the fucking, the dude from Smith County, the lead investigator, he's in my face telling
me, I've been waiting for this moment. You're fucking going down. It's over for you.
Just talking cash in. He was like, and don't even think about calling your buddy, because we
already hit his house this morning. All y'all are going down. I'm just like, okay. So I'm in the
backyard. They're searching the house. They were there for probably seven hours, you know,
going through everything.
Like, and I, keep in mind, I'm living in Texas.
My, I have a crazy arsenal of guns.
I probably had at least 30 guns, right?
And I had, around this time was during the Obama administration and there was an
ammo shortage.
So anytime I could get ammunition, I was just stockpiling it.
So I had like 30 rounds of ammo.
Like, but all my guns were legit.
They were all legal.
They were all like bought from pawn shops or academy.
So it was no dirty shit like that.
But I remember they took it all
And like they were stacking all my ammo up
And they were like, yeah, you think you're the cartel
I don't think any of that shit
I'm never on social media waving guns
I'm not talking about shooting ops
Like I'm posting pictures with like my kid
Or posting pictures of me eating at a nice restaurant
Or flying first class
Or with these musicians or athletes or something
But they got me painted out in their mind
Like I was just going to be like
Some disrespectful fucking asshole
So, like, they end up, they searched the house, and I had two pounds of weed there.
And I got, like, two pounds of weed, like, $12,000, right?
Nothing major whatsoever.
They came in, and the guy from Smith County was, like, just so you know, all your bank accounts
or property of the U.S. government, as of this morning, all this shit.
So, and keep in mind, like, my pops is still in Los Angeles.
You know, he's got, like, a whole life out there now.
he's got like a new girlfriend that he's you know he's moved on he's got friends you know he's
reconnected with some of his family like everything's good and uh so longster they they end up fucking
cuffing me they take everything bro they take all the money and they leave my son's mom like 300
bucks and they were like uh they take all our phone so she didn't even have a phone he was like
you can give the phone to me and give me your code
your password, and you can take the numbers out, and I'll read them to you.
So she was able to write down the number she could.
Now, boom, I'm in the county, right?
So, or I'm in the, I'm going to the county jail for the intake process.
I'm still just baffled, because in my mind, I'm like, bro, I haven't done shit in ages.
I haven't done, like, I come to find out that there's really no time limit.
I mean, there is a statue of limitations.
Yeah. But, you know, it wasn't that far. This was like six months, you know, seven months. So I get down to the intake at the county jail. I see my guy in there, too. And he's just like, yeah, they hit me this morning. And I had some weed and some extract in my house, too. And then I was like, damn. So he was like, and he's been through the system before. You know, he's been locked up. So I'm fucking freaking out. I'm green to this shit. And he's like, and he's like,
like, bro, don't worry.
Like, we're going to see, we're going to get bond.
Like, they really don't got shit.
We're going to get a bond and get the fuck out of here.
And I'm like, cool.
So, like, we're sitting there waiting.
We're waiting for a couple hours.
And, uh, they call him up to see the magistrate judge.
And then he comes back over and he's like, hell yeah, bro, bonds a thousand bucks.
I'm about to, we're about to get the fuck out of here.
He goes over to the phone.
He calls his, uh, people.
Hey, I got locked up.
My bonds a thousand bucks.
You know, boom.
he's about to get out and then because you know when you go to the county and then you're sitting
there during intake and they're like raise your hand if you're making bond and then like so
they're like okay the people that aren't making bond you're going to go to the actual jail jail
and you need to go strip out squat and cough get your your fucking jumpsuit and uh so i'm like
and the phones you can just pick up and use for free in the county uh in smith county and so
I call my family, and I'm like, hey, my boy just got his bond.
It's only a thousand bucks.
So be on standby.
When they call me up, I should be out.
Because we had the same charge on paper.
Right.
And really, I think his extract, the marijuana, because once again, this is like 2015.
So all the shatter and dab, all the THC extracts really weren't a thing yet.
So they were treating those as controlled substances out there, same as like meth.
or crack. That's how it's classified in the state of Texas. So his
looks worse, his situation looks worse than yours. Yeah, on paper, you know. And so I get
up there and they're doing my fingerprint. I'm, I'm already smiling. I'm like, dude, I'm
about to go home, you know, I'll get this shit behind me. They do my fingerprints and
they do my mugshot. I'm actually smiling in my mugshot because I'm like, fuck these
motherfuckers. I'm about to go home. They ain't got shit on me, basically. And then
they were like, okay. And the lady tells me, I'll never forget. She was like, I
I've never seen this before.
Your bond was set over the phone by judge yesterday.
Your bond's $150,000.
I was like $100,000 for possession of marijuana, a fourth degree felony in the state of Texas,
a state jail felony.
My bond's $150,000.
She's like, yeah, I don't think this is right.
Let me see.
She starts making phone calls because she does that shit for a living.
She's never seen somebody with a bullshit ass weed charge with a $150,000 bond.
So she was like, no, honey, it's right.
It's right. It's right. So I'm like, what the fuck? So I go, use the phone again, call my people. I tell them, my bond's $150K. I don't know what you got to do. Or I don't care what you have to do. Call this person, call that person. This guy owes me some money. This guy owes me some money. So-and-so in Cali's got this and that. And she's like, all right, I'm on it. I'll get you out of there. And she was, but I'm going to call an attorney first. So she calls. Okay, so in Smith County, there's
this guy. He's supposedly the best of the best. And, you know, I'm going to tread lightly
what I say. His name's Buckfiles, right? I just know in my experience, he didn't do me right.
He sold me down the river. Right. Now, I know that's maybe not everybody's case, but I got
great A fucked. Right. So he, she calls him. He's like, yeah, I'll take the case on. Uh,
Of course he will.
And it was like, he wanted like 20 grand.
And he's like, how much can you pay today?
And then she was like, well, I was actually going to get the money together and bond him out.
And he's like, well, let me look into it.
So he looks everything up.
He calls her back.
And he's like, hey, don't make that bond.
Like something's not right about it.
There's no way he should be in there on a $150,000 bond for that charge.
So just give me a little bit.
I'm going to get down to the bottom of it.
Keep in mind, well, all this is happening.
I've never been in trouble.
I'm suffering, like, fucking just going through it.
My dude that was in there with me,
he's already shaking my hand and telling me bye, he's gone.
You know, and I'm like, what the fuck?
You know, I was in another state.
I wasn't doing no hand-to-hand, no dirt,
and I'm fucking sitting here.
I hadn't lived here in three years,
and I come back in two, three days after I've been back,
my ass is in fucking jail, you know?
So the people across the street
from my parents, right?
Because, like, when I got raided, it was in my childhood home, my dad's house.
That's where I'd stay when I'd go back to Texas.
And, like, it's in a nice area, which I'm really glad in retrospect that I live right
across the street from the high school in, like, in a church.
So I'm really glad that no school zone charges came out of it because it was right
across the street.
They can give you, like, they can give you additional charges if it's, like, within 300 yards
of a school.
You can get enhancements and shit.
And blast your ass.
Yeah.
You know, turn a little doing two years into do it.
Because I think in the state of Texas, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain that the mandatory minimum on school zone charges is 10 years.
Like, I'm not 100% certain, but I think that's the case.
So, like, oh, and also, I meant to, so, you know, when they raided me and they're going through all my shit, I had those hundred pain pills that I just bought.
Right.
And, like, which is hilarious to me now, that, like, those never made it into evidence.
Those, I swear, they never showed up on discovery, none of that.
And then, but I never got them back, you know, and he's like, oh, why do you have these pills?
And I was like, for my back.
I was like, dude, I just landed from L.A. like two days ago.
And I don't like flying with pill bottles.
They take up too much room.
And he was like, he was like, he was like, he was like, you know that I can.
go, and this is a Smith County piece of shit talking to me, he's like, you know that I can
go in there and have one of those federal guys make a call, and they'll be able to tell
if you've ever had a prescription for those your entire life. I was like, do it. I do.
Man, they did. All my doctor hopping saved me. You know what I'm saying? Because in a state of
Texas, that's a five to 99 alone. You know, you have a couple pain pills. That's a first
degree felony, controlled substance, five to 99, five years minimum. If you go to prison,
nasty shit, nasty work. So, but nothing ever came to fruition with that, luckily, because I was
legit, you know, in a sense. So we, she ends up getting the attorney, you know, and the people
across the street from my dad, they're the ones that, the teacher, the kinesiology teacher at the junior
college I was telling you about earlier that told me when I went off the zans I shouldn't
have done it cold turkey well they have a family member that's a DPS officer and they were out
I mean do the whole neighborhood these are people that watch me grow up since I was 10 years old
and like everybody's walking out just so shameful you know I'm in fucking handcuffs in the front
yard you know and just like cops everywhere pointing guns and neighbors are trying to walk over to
check on us I'm sure they thought that
that I fucking killed somebody or something.
And they were telling him, like, get back.
This is an active crime scene.
Oh, God.
Fucking bullshit, right?
So we, but they had a friend that was a DPS officer.
And the DPS officer made a call and was like, let me check.
Dude, I had a shitload of pending charges, like racketeering,
um, uh, fucking transporting guns across state lines, uh, commission.
of a felony with a firearm, like all this fucking, all these awful charges, right?
So at this point, I've let my hope go of, I'm not going home today.
Maybe I'll go home tomorrow, right?
So every day I had to, they're dressing me out.
They're, you know, got to use the fucking life shampoo, shampoo, you got to shower.
And I've never been in a compromising position like that to some dude telling me out of them,
squat, cough, wash
your hair. That shit was weird as
fuck to me, foreign to me.
And so I do it.
Stripped in my dignity.
You know, I'm in...
Spread your ass cheeks.
Let me see your asshole.
Yeah, dude.
Weird ass shit.
And I think a lot of those weird motherfuckers
like that shit.
Fucking weird ass.
What grown ass man
would want that fucking job?
You know what I'm saying?
Like squat and cough.
Weird shit.
Bend over.
Spread them.
But like, so I fucking,
go down there.
I get a, and where I was at in Smith County, it's kind of set up like a dorm, you know.
And so I go in there.
I get there real late.
I got rated at like 5.36 in the morning.
I don't make it to a bed until like 2 a.m.
You know, it's like an all day thing.
Right.
So I go in there.
I meet a couple people.
They're cool.
You know, they're asking me, you know, hey, man, what are you in here for?
I tell him, man, I got rated for weed, you know.
And I'm rated for weed.
weed that don't sound right and I'm like yeah it doesn't you know so I finally the next day that
attorney comes and sees me you know the one that buck files the one that my family had retained
he comes down there and he's like look I uh I told your family not to make your bond because I feel
your bond's basically a trap like uh they're wanting to see I guess they didn't find the cash that
they expected to find at my house and they want to make sure you don't have any money out here
that you're hiding. And if you make that bond, I think it's going to make things worse for you.
So just give it a couple days. I'm going to get you a bond reduction. And then you can get out
on the bond reduction. I ended up doing like 55 days waiting for a bond reduction, you know.
And so at this time, like my guy I was doing all this with, you know, he's living life.
You know, he's going to work. He's coming and going. And I'm just like, damn, you know,
I'm, and like, it's at the point where all the resources are dried up that the money that I had
is all being spent on attorneys, plus the cost of living still going on for my family,
that, you know, they're starting to, like, sell their shit.
They're trying to selling all my valuable shit.
So they can just, you know, because the attorney is basically, like, a storm's coming,
prepare for it.
Like, something's not right.
So he comes, he keeps coming and seeing me, coming and going, you know, and he was like,
look, I got some information.
all this started with a deposit that was put in your bank account that smelled like marijuana.
Do you remember that back in and he told me the date?
I was like, yeah, I remember that.
He was like, so this is how you know that it was just bad timing because the security guard that worked at the bank
overheard the two tellers talking about it.
And he said, oh, I only do security here part time.
I'm actually a Tyler police officer.
Why don't you give me the names of the guy who dropped it off?
And why don't you give me the name of the account that it was going in?
And I'll call my buddy in the narcotics division and see something's weird going on.
That's what sparked the whole investigation.
So they reach out to the Tyler narcotics.
They keep in mind, they got my guy on tape, dropping it off in the drive-through.
He had to show his ID, fill out it.
tax form. So they got all his info. Then they have my info because it was going into my account.
And then from my account, they can see the people I'm connected with. They see my dad.
They see that his under employment, it says like Platinum Star Healthcare, because that was the
dispensary. So it's like all connected. And then they start subpoena in all these banks and credit
card companies and getting all this information. And the whole time, we were just out there like
running strictly the dispensary, and I quit mailing stuff back home was the whole time that they were
building an investigation. Right. They were just waiting for the opportunity to strike. And they did,
you know. So we, so, okay, so one day after going back and forth, my attorney's telling me,
oh, well, I think I can beat this. Uh, it's all really circumstantial, uh, all this type of shit.
And then he comes back the next day and he's like, look. And like I said, I don't know how much
if this is true, that attorney greatly led me down the wrong path. He knew I was naive. He was
playing stuff up to my family like, oh, this is very serious. There's nothing we can do.
This is a serious crime. If it goes federal, that'll be his best, or if it stays federal,
that'll be his best bet. But right now, I only had a state charge. I haven't even been
indicted for the money laundering. I'm just sitting there on a weed charge. He's just trying to get in
front of it. So he comes to me and he tells me this. He was like, look, he was like, I got a call
this morning from the DA or the police. I can't remember what he said. He was like, they want you
to do a proffer agreement. Do you know what that is? I was like, not at all. I don't know shit about any
of this. He was like, well, look, they ask your guy to do a proffer. And he said,
said he would do it, which I don't know if that's true or if he lied to me. He said he would do
it, but he hasn't been able to retain an attorney. And you need to have an attorney to do the
proffer. And he wasn't able to retain one yet. You need to do it. And it'll definitely
look good if you do it. Like he was like, they already got you all dead to rights. They got
videos, bank records, text messages. The main thing that they care about is they just want to know
how you were getting the marijuana here.
Right.
You know, and I was telling like, bro, I'm not about to go testify against anybody.
He was like, no, this isn't, he was like, that's not even part of this.
They just want to know how you got the weed here.
And then I was like, okay, well, I'll do whatever you think is best, right?
So he's like, that's what's best for you that way.
Because at this, at this point, he's basically telling me, like, we just got to get in front of this.
You're going to get in trouble for the marijuana charge.
But if we just tell them how you were getting the weed here, they're not going to charge you guys with anything.
else. Like, it's just going to be this. And he was like, I'll get you probation. State jail felony
probation. You can go back home to L.A. I was like, okay. So like a week later, they call me in to do the
proffer. Well, I go and I sit down in that room and like, I'm like, where's my attorney? And they're like,
because the guy comes and sits down and he's like, oh, Mr. Campos, listen, I'm like,
where's my attorney at? And he was like, oh, your attorney didn't show up. And I was like,
bro, I don't even know what the fuck this is.
I'm not about to do any.
I'm just following his lead, you know, and he's like, well, let me make some phone calls, right?
So I'm like, okay.
So then my attorney sends a bondsman down there, a bondsman that works for, well, not works for, works with.
And he's a great guy, Tim McLeMay, Spartan bondsman.
Have you ever locked up in East Texas?
I'll at him.
But, like, dude is a great fucking guy.
And really, he saved my life.
like uh so they and he's like uh he ex cop he saw how fucked up east texas justices and he after he did
that shit for years and just how they set people up and fuck them over he's like i can't be on
that side of law anymore so he became like a forensic uh analysis right and uh and then and
and he would do the bell bondsman shit and attorneys would hire him to basically you know go through
technological devices to, like, pull information off of it and stuff like that.
So he comes in there and he sits down.
I'd only met him, though, I hadn't, I hadn't met him.
That was the first time I met him, okay?
So he sits down and I'm like, bro, I don't even know what this is.
And he's just like, man, just follow my lead.
I'll tell you what to answer or whatnot to.
You know, I won't let you say anything incriminating.
And I'm like, all right, cool.
So, you know, they're basically just asking me, like, how are you getting all the shit here?
And I tell them, like, bro, I would just vacuum seal it, put it in a box, put that box in another box, and mail it.
And, like, I guess they didn't like that answer.
They were expecting it to be like some, I went to this guy and gave it to him and went to this.
I meet with my cartel contacts.
Yeah.
We, you know, yeah.
Yeah, smuggle it in through errors.
No, it was nothing like that.
I'm just like, bro, I literally just put it in a box.
I take it to USPS or UPS or whatever and just ship it.
He's like, oh, how are you really getting here?
I'm like, bro, that's how I'm doing it, you know?
So then he starts getting pissy about everything, and the cop does.
The lead investigator was a dude, Greg Harry and Adam Mackey.
Like, I was telling you, one of them is like in Homeland Security now,
and the other one's still probably doing shady shit in East Texas.
I don't know.
That's a dude that was just talking shit to me the whole time.
Like, take a good, dude literally told me, take a look at your son.
you're not going to be seeing them for years, just ho-ass shit like that.
And a piece of shit, in my opinion, in my experience.
And so we do it.
We're talking in the proffer.
I'm really over it.
And then this dude's like taunting me talking about, you want a candy bar?
I was like, I don't want no fucking candy bar.
He's like, well, I figure it'll be a while before you can just get a candy bar that easily.
I'm like, they're on commissary, dumbass, you know.
He was just really a piece of.
shit.
There's probably, I mean, you go to, there's probably a store man in the unit.
You walk up and say, hey, man, I have a candy bar.
Yeah, exactly.
So, so this is when shit gets fucked up.
You know, he tells me, well, hey, we saw on your text messages that your, uh, your son's
mom was in Tyler, like, fucking a year ago type shit.
And we saw, and they tell me the date.
And they said, and you hit up your guy out here.
And you told him that she was out.
here and told him to leave money out and that you were going to send her by to pick it up.
And I was like, yeah, okay.
He was like, did she know what that money was for?
I was like, not at all.
I just told her, hey, my buddy's going to leave some money out for you or leave some money
out for me.
And if you don't mind when you have a chance, since you're going to be in the town, run by
and pick it up for me.
She said, cool, no problem.
I was like, you got our text message.
You saw that's all that was said.
And he was like, well, I have a hard time believing that she would be, she would have a child with a drug dealer and not know where his money's coming from.
And I was like, like I said, we didn't have a conversation about it.
Yeah. And you own a dispensary and you.
And I'm doing the jewelry shit.
We're selling jewelry.
Exactly.
Like there's any, any, any, many, numerous reasons why he could be picking up.
He could owe me that fucking money for a vehicle or for any reason, because 10 years ago when he finally came into the money.
Exactly.
And it was like, I remember that.
It was like $16,000, right?
And so she goes and she got it for me.
And then he was like, yeah, and what's your dad think about all this?
I was like, you'll have to ask him.
Like, I can't tell you what he thinks about it.
He's in California.
And he was like, well, you were using his bank accounts too.
Did he know about that?
And I was like, I said, man, the only thing that people around me are guilty of is loving me.
That's it.
You know, I didn't pull them into my shit intentionally.
I just would say, hey, I got somebody that's going to drop some money.
I'm going to have them send it to your account, and I'm going to need you to go get it out for me.
That's all that was it.
Plus, I thought the profit was only supposed to be about how I was shipping stuff.
Exactly.
What are we talking about here?
And so he tells me, well, I've had enough.
I just want you to know that when you get back to the tank, you need to call them and let them know to get a lawyer because I'm indicting them to.
And I was like, what the fuck?
So I'm sitting there looking at the bondsman like, what the fuck is that?
this shit. And that fucking first attorney, I'm really trying to not say anything bad about him.
But like, bro, sell me down a fucking river. I only did that shit because he told me that I should
have done it and that it would look good. We're going to get in front of it turning into an
indictment. If we just tell them how people are getting drugs there to now I'm walking out
and I just took an L. Now my people are getting indicted. And then this dude sitting here fucking
taunting me talking about like you know you may need to make arrangements with your kid
nobody's going to be around that's all he kept tugging on that kid string the whole time you know
just a piece of fucking garbage right and i would tell like bro leave my fucking kids out of it you know
like i only had one then but leave my kid out of it bro he's innocent he has nothing to do with
this shit uh you should have thought about that he was on that type of shit yeah yeah so i leave
that shit's over uh the bondsman's telling me but the bondsman's even telling me like this
shit's fucked up. I don't know what's going on. Like, uh, I'll, at that point, I started communicating
with him more, you know, because he was the only guy shooting me straight. The attorney was just
giving me the runaround playing games with me. And, uh, so I go back to the tank and I call my
family and I'm like, look, they said they're indicting y'all because of you picked up that money
and I was putting money in y'all's bank accounts. And she's like, what the fuck? And so I'm like,
yeah, you know, and they said that you need to get an attorney. I don't know what's going on, you
I should have never done that.
I should have never talk to these people.
And so finally, like, two weeks after that, my attorney gets a bond reduction.
So after, like, fucking 55 days, I get out, right?
What, they reduce it, too?
Fuck, like 40,000 or something.
40,000, 30,000.
It was doable, you know?
Right.
Yeah, I think, because the same bondsman, me and him have been in communication now,
and he's like, man, just tell your people I got it.
I think my people took him, like, two Rolexes.
that I still had out there and then gave him like a thousand bucks and he just held it
until everything was over and got me out because he had to make my bond again when I got indicted
for the organized crime so I'm out now everything's you know now I'm actually able to sit down
in my lawyer's office and look at the discovery and go over shit and talk to him about shit
and this dude still just giving me the fucking runaround you know so he he tells him he goes
well I got great news um I got the feds
aren't going to prosecute you.
And I was like, nice.
You know, he was like, yeah, you know, we got to take care of some stuff, but you can go back
to L.A.
You know, you can keep running your business.
You'll be okay.
So I'm like, cool.
So I was like, man, that cop was just bullshit.
They're not fucking indicting anybody.
He was just trying to scare me.
You know, he's full of shit.
He's just a bully.
And then like, so like two days, three days later, my, that attorney called me again.
And he's like, I got some bad news.
Are you sitting down?
and I was like, no, what's up?
He was like, y'all are all being charged with first degree engaging
and organized criminal activity in the state's prosecuting you.
And I'm like, in my mind, I didn't know, like, you know,
I always thought the feds was worse.
I didn't know shit about it.
So I'm like, oh, at least the state's prosecuting.
But then, like I said, I didn't know about the point systems.
The Fed charge would have been a year, year and a half.
Now the state of Texas can give me fucking 99 years if they really wanted to.
They won't, but they could.
And, but I'm just like, okay, well, you know, I'll come out there and I'll talk to you. He's like, yeah, you need to have your dad fly in because they're going to talk to a grand jury and y'all are going to be indicted and y'all are going to have to go turn yourself in. And he was like, but don't worry, I'm going to have it set up to where as soon as you all walk in, you bond right out. Right. And I was like, okay, cool. And they ended up like my guy I was sending stuff to. They like, bro, they were putting people that I never even met. They were just people that he was selling to.
that I never even seen with my own two eyes were getting charged with this shit, too.
And so, like, we go through all that shit.
We bond ourselves.
We all turn ourselves in.
We bond back out.
And, like, then I start understanding the gravity of the situation.
You know, I understand, like, how serious this shit is.
And so, like, and like I was telling you yesterday.
So finally, I'm on pretrial supervision, right?
because I have crazy-ass bond conditions.
Right.
They're called, I have to go piss once a week.
I got to call them every day.
You know, but what was also fucking crazy is they were still allowing me,
I was able to go back to California.
I was able to go back to California and run my dispensary while I was on a bond for selling
weed from my dispensary and sent it to Texas.
But I'm having to piss out there once a week at a trusted source.
and I got to mail the results.
Like, or the clinic has to fax the results back to Texas to the prosecutor or to the probation department.
So I go out there, I do all that shit.
I'm just running the dispensary.
I'm not smoking or anything.
I'm walking like a tight straight and narrow.
I'm just doing that to make money and shit.
And then like, and I had to come down every once in a while.
So I go out there and my attorney's got.
My dad comes with me, and we're all sitting at a big ass table.
And my attorney comes in.
He's like, I got great news.
He's got a huge smile on his face.
I'm like, hell yeah.
Like, his energy felt like he's got great news.
They threw all this shit out or something.
He was like, I talked to the DA, and he made me a deal that I really think you should take.
And I was like, well, what is it?
He was like, he's going to give your dad and your son's mom probation, and he's going to give you 35 years.
And I was like, what?
He was like, yeah.
What a bargain.
Yeah, that's great.
You know, I was like 35 years.
Like my mind was fucked up.
I'm like, bro, I'm not about to go do 35 years.
And he was like, it's a great deal.
If we take it to trial, they're going to eat us alive.
And they, y'all are dead.
They got all the text messages between you guys.
They got all the bank records.
There's nothing to fight.
Like you guys are signed sealed and delivered.
It's a done deal.
I'm like, bro, I know you can do.
better in 35 years and this fool had the audacity to tell me look at it like this you go down there
you keep your head down because they offer college courses in Texas prison he was like you can go
down there and pass the bar you can get out and be an attorney and be a piece of shit attorney just like me
he was like and if you if you do everything the right way and you stay out of trouble you'll be
out of prison by your son's 18th birthday and like that shit
still just saying it makes my fucking heart sink,
just makes me sick to my fucking stomach.
Like, I look at my dad and I'm just like,
and he knows, my dad's like my best friend,
he knows that I'm giving them that fuck this shit.
In my mind, I'm really thinking,
do we have, what family in Mexico do we have that still cool?
I'm about to fucking get the fuck out of here, you know?
So he's like, well, I want you to think about it.
He was like, just think about it.
it's the best deal you're going to get.
You don't understand how serious a first-degree engaging in organized crime charge is.
And I was like, all right.
So I leave and I call that bondsman.
And I'm just like, because now I just like tell him everything.
He's like I say, he's the only person keeping it straight with me.
And I'm like, is this true?
Is this the best deal that I can fucking get?
And he was like, look, man, you may want to explore some other options.
I got another guy that you can call.
And I think he'll be able to do you a lot better.
So this is when Jason Parrish comes in.
That's my dog, too, right now.
He's a great guy, was honest.
He also saved my life.
Between Tim and Jason, my new attorney, those guys, you know, got me, that's why I'm
sitting here with you today.
Instead of not waiting for commissary.
Yeah, dude.
I worked for commissary in there, so I didn't have to wait.
You know what I'm saying?
I go to the store anytime I want, you know, weird flex, right?
So, like, no, we, I go and I talk to the other attorney and I tell them everything.
And this guy's like, bro, what the fuck?
He's like, I would have never.
And I was like, what, you know, what's the proffer thing?
He's like, bro, I would have never had you do that proffer.
I would have never let you have like any fucking contact with these guys.
I would have fucking guy, this throwing out that.
And I'm like, well, fuck, man, how much do you want?
Right.
You know, and he was, he really gave me hope, you know, because at this time, I've been on bond going back and forth from L.A. to Texas.
Like, it was like nine months before I actually signed for time.
And like, uh, and so I'm talking to him.
He was like, look, I can't, me, the thing that was so cool about that guy is like, uh, I think he wanted like 15 or 20,000 and we only had like half the money.
Because by this time, our funds are fucking depleted.
Right.
Right.
And he took the money.
and then like all my, when he got all my shit back that the cop sees, he like kept a bunch of
the guns and took it off the bill.
And then I literally, I paid him back off once I came home and he was just totally cool
with it.
You know, like he's a really good guy.
His heart's in the right place.
And he knew, even though I should have been held accountable, that I wasn't some fucking
monster.
I wasn't out there fucking selling hard drugs to kids.
Like, it was fucking weed.
Nobody was getting hurt.
We weren't robbing people or killing people.
or any of that shit.
I would never.
I'm a nice guy, you know, and I really am.
And so we're going back and forth, you know, and then so my first attorney, now keep in mind,
he's still my attorney on paper, you know, and then I was like, well, what do we have to do?
And I can't remember what my new attorney told me.
He's like, well, I have to file a motion to relieve counsel and then I can become your
counsel.
He's like, don't worry, I'll take care of all that.
And I was like, all right, thank you.
So at that time, my old attorney is still calling me over and over and over.
And then so I finally answer.
And I'm like, hello?
He's like, I've been calling you.
And I was like, well, I didn't recognize the number because it wasn't like his cell phone.
Right.
And he was like, well, that's because I'm, I told you I had open heart surgery today.
I'm about to go in the operating room in 20 minutes.
I got to know, are you going to sign for the 30 years?
I need to tell the DA by today.
swear to God, dude was calling me from his hospital bed to try to pressure me in a sign-in for 30 years.
I was like, yeah, man, I'm not going to do it.
Just letting you know, I'm not going to do it.
Like, oh, you're making a huge mistake.
I'm telling you, that's what you paid me for.
I'm doing, you don't understand.
If you don't sign for this, all y'all are going to be gone.
And now he's saying, like, when think about your son, where will he end up?
I'm like, I'll take my chances, bro.
Because now my new attorney, Parrish, he's kept it real with me.
You know, he's letting me know, like, dude, you're not going to do fucking 35 years.
Just relax, you know.
And so he gets the paper, I guess, a couple days later that he's been, like, relieved of counsel.
Because he had, like, still called and kind of, like, said some snidey shit.
Like, oh, you could have just told me if you didn't want me to represent you.
I'm like, bro.
Fuck you.
Basically.
You know what I'm saying?
bro, you're sitting here trying to pressure me in 35 years, acting like it's a good deal.
So my new attorney comes in, we get a whole bunch of shit taking care of, because he's like,
first, even though, you know, the state looks at it, like, one illegal dollar taints all this
money, he was like, let's make a packet in a timeline, and let's just show what we can account
for is legitimate money in these accounts, right?
So I start reaching out to like the artist that I've done jewelry for and I'm like,
hey, is there any way that you or somebody at the label could, you know, write a letter or just
a paragraph and sign it with the letterhead saying that we purchased this jewelry and they're
like, yeah, cool.
So I get a bunch of those letters from like musicians that I've done stuff for and then I print
all the pictures out and like they make like a packet.
So my attorney's going back and forth, back and forth.
back and forth with the DA
and he's like
he actually calls me he's like
bro I need you to come to town I got great news
so I'm like bet I go to town
he's like he goes man I got that shit
dropped from first degree
organized crime
down to third degree money laundering
and I'm like okay he was like
you just went from 5 to 99 to 2 to 10
you know so now even if they want to throw
the book at you we can take them to trial
if we want the most you're going to get
10 years dude I'm like hell yeah
So worst case, I'll be home with my son's 11, not when he's fucking 18, and then still
have another 17 years on parole.
And he was like, yeah, he goes, look.
And because at that time, I think my guy was sending stuff to, I don't know if he had already
signed for his time, but they ended up reducing his too.
So, like, he was like, yeah, man, they couldn't.
He couldn't sustain those charges.
Yeah.
And another thing that's crazy is once they changed.
change me and my guys to money laundering. Another dude that had a similar case from like three
years prior, the exact same thing. They charged him with first degree engaging in Oregonous
criminal activity. When I was in the county waiting to go to prison, he popped up. And he's like,
and we'd always known of each other and talked to each other, like talked about each other because
he was another big weed plug out there. And he's like, dude, I want to tell you, thank you. You
don't know, but I had Buck Files, too. He talked me into doing the same shit. He had me,
he signed for like 30 years, first degree engaging in an organized crime. He said, this guy told
me that I was going to get regular parole. So he said on my sentence that I would see parole in
two years. When I got to intake, they told me that organized crimes treated aggravated. And so
it's going to be like either 10 or 15 years before I see parole.
But the only reason I signed is he told me I'd be home in two years.
Who told you this?
Who told this was a good attorney?
Everybody.
I mean, he's the guy out there that gets people off with murders, gun charges.
So, yeah, he's like the real deal.
He's like, he was highly coveted.
I don't know about him now.
But so, and I'd always hear, like, him getting people, like, somebody's drunk and gets in a wreck and kill somebody.
and, like, they get probation and, like, just shit like that.
You know, maybe he has some vendetta against weed.
I really don't fucking know.
But, like, so, but my, but the guy was telling me, like, dude, thank you.
Because, like, you're charged.
They, he was at his unit, licking his wounds, expecting to do 15 years.
He goes, bro, they told me to pack it up, to leave.
And they brought me back here because they're taking me into court next week.
And they're redoing my charge and reclassifying me as money laundering.
And, like, bro, as soon as he.
signed and they switched his charge from organized crime to money laundering, he made parole
over the phone.
Like, because he had so much back time, he was past his parole date.
And he, so, so luckily, you know, like, Parrish ended up, like, blessing a lot of people's
game just because he did what should have been done from the beginning.
Right.
You know, now, and then everybody else got, you know, probation for the shit.
And then, like, so basically, I go in court.
court, and this is what's pretty funny.
So I signed for my time, and I turned around.
And once I signed for the time, they told me, like, they gave me a, I don't know,
I can't remember if I signed or, and then they gave me, but I had to go to court twice.
I think once was to sign and the other one was sentencing.
Once to plead guilty and wants to be sentenced.
Okay, that's what it was.
So, dude, everybody else has already signed for probation, like, you know, my,
my home my home boy I was doing everything with he's already like in the county he he had already
signed and like uh so it was my turn to sign right so the two cops were at my court date right
and they were uh every time I'd have an appearance in court I'd turn around and they'd be sitting
in the court like just so emotionally invested in this shit that really it was fucking weird
They're weird-ass dudes.
Like, bro, got a heart on for me that bad.
Like, I'm selling weed, bro.
Like, I know it's East Texas, but there's people out here with real shit going on.
Why are you focused on me?
I guess maybe it's because they, it was like a two-year investigation.
Maybe they feel like they wasted the county's resources.
I don't know.
I tried to add them on Facebook.
They won't accept my friend request, you know.
And then they blocked me.
I just wanted them to see it because they're telling me, you're done.
You're going to be gone.
I just wanted them motherfuckers to know, I'm back, bitch.
You know, so I, you know, they're in the court.
And then, like, honorable judge Kennedy, that's who sentenced me, who she was a really strict-ass judge, stern, no nonsense.
But I guess, like, you know, her heart grew three sizes that day.
Because, like, my defense attorney and her really had a good working relationship.
and dude, anything, like, she was very kind, you know,
when she could have not been, you know,
she could have really just been like,
I'm not, I don't care what the DA wants, you know.
What's crazy is like, so before Christmas,
because I ended up signing for my time in January,
and before Christmas, there was a DA out there,
and he's like, he's like, hey, tell your guy,
he told my attorney, tell your guy if he signs,
if he signs today, I'll give him four years.
and then so my attorney calls me
he's like hey man he said if you fly
in town and signed a day he'll give you four
years and I said what should I do it? And he was
like in my mind I still don't
want to go to fucking prison. I've never
been when I was in the county for
60 days my fucking
hated life you know
he was like well I told him
you really want probation
you know that you'll do
eight to 10 years probation
but he said we'll reconvene
after the holiday
I told him you're out of town, and it was like Christmas.
It was like a week before Christmas.
So Christmas ends, New Year's Eve ends.
And then so I called my attorney.
He was like, did you think about the four years yet?
I said, yeah, because I talked to a couple of my friends that had been to prison.
I said, fuck it, bro, I'm going to do it.
I'm assigned for the four years.
Just see if you can buy me a week or two to get my affairs in order.
So he calls, and then now they won't honor it because that DA went to a different office.
And the DA that was there in January was like, I'm not.
letting him walk with four years.
Are you fucking crazy?
So now he's like, the most I'll do is 10, or the least I'll do is 10.
And my attorney's like, if we're going to do 10, like, we'll just go to trial.
The most he can get is 10.
Exactly.
So then they finally offer me seven.
Right.
And then I was like, dude, fuck yeah.
In my mind, I'd already looked at the time charts on the internet to see how much am I going to have to do on the four and all this shit.
So I end up signing for the seven.
Oh.
Yeah.
I signed for the seven when I should have did the four.
But, you know, slow feet.
You know, I should have just jumped on it and said,
I'll get on a plane right now and do that shit.
But I also didn't know how much fuckery went on.
Look, before all this happened, I still,
I had hope and faith in the justice system.
That's a mistake.
Oh, without a doubt.
You know, but now don't get me wrong, like growing up where I grew up
and doing the type of shit,
I would always get pulled over,
even if I was riding clean,
they're going to pull me out the car.
Bro, swear to God,
I can't even count how many times
I've been held at gunpoint by police
just on some like,
get out of the car on a traffic stop
because the car smells like weed.
They got their gun out telling me to get out the car.
Like Smith County, East Texas is fucked up.
You know, that's what I'll never go back
to that motherfucker.
I don't even like visiting there.
Some of my favorite restaurants are there.
I never go back.
Fuck that shit.
Because I feel like these dudes are so,
We're so weirdly obsessed with the case.
I don't want to step foot back in there.
I don't know what they're capable of.
Especially now that one's in fucking secret service.
Like,
I'm gonna reach out and touch somebody.
I want no problems with you though.
I'm sure you're doing great out there.
So I signed for the seven years.
And then I just hear all these scoffs.
And my attorney turns around.
I turn around and those cops were back there.
And he literally,
he's at the back row of the court.
He's like,
God damn it.
And he pushes the door open.
The other one's like,
this is bullshit.
The judge is.
He's like, ta-t-tac-tac-tac.
Yeah, you be quiet.
Get out of my courtroom.
And my attorney is a bad-muffer.
He's just laughing at them.
And then I looked at him, and I'm just itching my head doing this.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, because I was a different guy then.
You know, now I would just take it on the chin, you know, and be humble about it.
Just thank God for what I got.
But back then, I was like, motherfuckers thought you were going to kill me.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, we, I went, they told me after I signed for the time, they were like,
They gave me, like, two weeks to get my affairs in order.
And, like, spent some time with family, line some shit up, you know.
And then I flew in.
I was still living in L.A. at the time, too.
So I flew in from Los Angeles to the Dallas airport.
One of my best friends' sisters picked me up from the airport, drove me to my then-brother-in-law's house.
And I spent the night over there.
And then he took me to prison the next morning, dropped me off at the door.
And I walked in and was just like,
like, hey, I'm here for prison, you know, just turn, you know, I'm ready to start my time and
they're just like, okay, you know, so you know how all that goes. Then I had to go back
through intake. But what's crazy as fuck is like, I sit in the county for like six months.
You know, I've already signed for my time. I'm waiting to catch chain. And I'm just like,
so I'm calling my attorney. My attorney's so cool anytime that he has like a client that he
has to see at the county, he'll pull me out of my cell and just talk to me.
Hey, man. How are you doing? Here's some chips. Here's a coat. Everything all right in there.
I'm like, bro, why have I not went to prison yet? I'm ready. Because, you know, when you get into the county, all the old school dudes that have been down before, they're like, oh, man, prison's so much better than the fucking county. And you got TVs and phones and commissary come. You can go anytime you want, depending on the unit.
Like, they're making it sound like a fucking vacation spa or something. And do the county.
But, I mean, it is.
It is in comparison of the county.
Yeah, in comparison, yeah.
Dude, like, the county was so rough.
The first two or three weeks I was there, I was sick as hell because, like, everything
else in Smith County, at least then, like, I was at, there's an old jail and a new jail,
and I was at the old one, and, dude, you could just look in and see all the black mold
around the baseboard.
So, like, first couple weeks you come in, everybody's sick as hell, you know?
And, like, so I just felt like shit, and I'm asking my attorney, I'm like, hey, man, what's
going on? Like, why am I still here? Everybody else? They got to wait like two months,
max, and I've been here going like five and a half. What's up? He's like, man, let me make some
call. Something's not right about that. Well, apparently, I don't know if it was an honest,
I'm sure it was just an honest mistake, but the DA forgot to file my plea agreement with the county
clerk. So I've just been dry sitting in there. So they end up filing it. Next day, I'm on
chain, go to TDC, TDCJ, Texas Department of Criminal Justice, where your dreams go to die.
All right.
So it's like, so this is one of the things I was wanting to tell you.
All right.
So in the state of Texas, one thing that's weird, like you would think, right, if you're here for seven years, are you going to house this guy with somebody that's got a life sentence that killed three people?
Are you going to put them in a cell together?
I mean, you shouldn't.
Okay.
That's what I would think, too, right?
So, but it goes by, it goes by security level.
You know, so not, I mean, I don't know every, I obviously, I don't know all prisons.
They're all different.
Like the intake, it always kills me with the intake.
And like in Florida, they'll put guys that should be in a camp and with pin guys.
And it's like, you're, I'm in here with the guy who's got a life sentence for killing six people.
And I have tax fraud.
Like, I've got two years for tax fraud.
How am I in the same, like, same unit as this guy?
Or same cell as this guy.
that's in like let's say Florida
Well that's how it is in Texas too
That's what I was you know
I was gonna tell you this story
About this guy that I met
So as soon as I get to TDC
Like I go through like the intake unit
Because out there they're shaving your head
They're shaving your beard
They're fucking giving you lye soap
To scrub your body down
And you're just lined up like cattle
Those guys will yell nuts to butts
Nuts to butts you pack them in tight
And I'm like what the fuck
It's weird ass motherfuckers bro
So it's like
I'm in the county, you know, you go through classification, they take your blood, they do
your fingerprints again, you got to, you go and see like the warden of the unit, they give
you classification or your, is it maybe classification levels, but just to, you know, to assign
your custody level, right? So, so I'm assuming everybody that I'm there with, you know,
I'm assuming like all the fucking crazy people go somewhere else or all the people with really
violent charges go somewhere else.
So I met this dude who was my cellie at Gurney.
That's where I did my intake.
Dude was so cool.
Like nice ass dude was giving me like, he was like, man, I just did a 15 year bid.
I had to do 11 years on it.
And I'm back down now.
I got a lot of time, but I'm not doing no tripping.
But I didn't ask them because another dude told me, hey, when you get there,
until you get settled in, don't just start walking up to people asking them.
their charge and how much time they got.
So I'm just really minding my own business, you know.
And, uh, but me and this guy are real cool.
Like, and we're there together for like two weeks.
And like, dudes like six three black dude.
Dude, swole as fuck.
Like, and really I'm like, damn, man, I need to start working out.
You know, get my shit right.
I got this time.
And so he's like giving me workout tips and shit.
And like just super like a sweet guy, right?
So one day after we've gotten to know each other more and I'm just telling them stuff about like
the tours I've been on and the people I've done jewelry for in the dispensary.
And I told him my case that, bro, if you don't mind me asking, what are you in here for?
And he was like, man, nothing too bad.
It's just homicide, murder.
And he downplayed it so much.
And I'm like, for real, I laughed.
I'm like, no, I do for real.
He was like, no, I'm murder.
I got 45 years.
And I was just like, damn, bro.
What the fuck?
Didn't you just do, like 12, 13 years?
He was like, yeah, I had aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
I did like 12 years on it.
I came home, and now I got this 45 years.
And I was like, how long were you on the streets?
He was like, three and a half months.
And then I was like, damn, he's like, you want to know what happened?
And like, this dude's set up.
His eyes lit up.
And, bro, this is, but look, here's what's crazy, right?
This is when I knew shit was real.
This is when I realized, like, shit ain't sweet in here.
Right.
When I see this grown man that could literally snap my fucking neck without even thinking twice, like, no matter what I did, like this dude was just, you know, he was, he was bad news for anybody that wanted to cross him, you know, so he's like telling me, he's like, yeah, man, so I came home and I just hear everybody sipping syrup and smoking weed now.
So I just wanted to get some syrup and I was like, okay, you know, which in Texas, it's really big everywhere, but in Texas it's really big syrup is like permethazine and codeine, lean, drank, all that type of stuff.
And so he was like, so I met this girl who was my girlfriend and she, I asked her.
He was like, you know, do you have any friends that can, that got any drink?
And then she was like, yeah, my best friend's boyfriend sells it.
and he's like, cool, could you call him for me? I just want a little deuce. And a deuce is like two
ounces of it, right? And so she's like, yeah, I'll call him. So she calls her best friend.
Her best friend tells her man, hey, my best friend's man wants a deuce a drink. Can you serve him?
And he's like, yeah, I got you. So the dude walks up, it comes over, gives him the two ounces
a drink. The guy gets it, shakes his hand. Thanks, bro. I got your number now. I'm going to,
I'm going to fuck with you in the future.
So the guy who's my celly, he's telling me he gets the drink and he drinks that shit.
And he said it's fake, right?
So he goes, man, when that shit was fake, I got pissed.
So I called him.
And I said, hey, man, that shit wasn't real.
I need my money back.
And he said, the dude was like, nah.
And he was like, look, man, I don't want no problems.
I'm trying to live my life right.
Like, I just want the money back.
And he goes, and man, that fool told me drank sold, money, foals.
and hung up on me.
He goes, I knew in that moment
that I was going to kill him.
And I was like, damn.
How much was, can you take from him?
A hundred bucks.
You're going to kill somebody for a hundred bucks?
And that's what I,
that right then, that's when I asked him.
He said, it's the principle of it.
Come on, bro.
I swear God.
Right?
So he tells me,
so he was like, so next,
what I did is I asked my girl
where her best friend lived,
because her dude would always come
over there. And then she told me. So I sat outside and I waited. He goes, I waited outside her house
for three days. He was like, I was pissing in beer bottles. I was putting my cigarettes in beer
bottles. I wasn't leaving no trace of DNA. He had his girl rent him a car and he told her what he was
going to do. She rented the car for him. So he said he sits outside for three days. He said,
just as I was going to leave, he goes, this is how I knew he was supposed to die. It's
Right when I was about to leave, I just put my cigarette out because I had to take the rental back the next day.
As I'm driving out, about to drive off, I see him walk out his door going across the street to Golden Chick, which is like a chicken franchise out there.
And he goes, and I just waited.
And, bro, when he tells me, he gets giddy.
He's like, man, my heart started racing.
Man, I put one in the chamber.
I was waiting.
Bro, that's when I knew shit was real.
And I had to realize, like, this ain't fun in games.
It's like, this dude is full of joy and excitement reliving this shit.
Right.
You know, and it was really kind of terrifying to me, you know, because I've just been,
I've been eating spreads with this guy, you know, eating romans and chips and working out
with this guy.
And he gets excited talking about murder.
I get excited talking about money, you know, this dude, we're different levels, you know.
So he said the dude comes out.
And as he's walking back down the street, he's like, bro, it was hilarious.
I jumped out.
I told him, hey, motherfucker, drank so money fold, and he turned around, and I just started lighting him up.
I shot that full eight times in his chest.
He goes, the gun had them cop killers in it, too.
He was doing 360s.
He goes, man, I left him on the sidewalk.
I drove home.
He goes, I went home.
I fucked my bitch.
I went to sleep.
I woke up the next morning, got on Facebook, and I seen everybody talking about pray for them.
He goes, I guess everybody in my friend group knew them.
And so I was like, damn, he was like, yeah, I wasn't tripping.
You know, he was in ICU, but I knew he was going to die.
There ain't no way he was like, if he can live through that, he deserves to live.
He goes, but I knew he wasn't going to make it.
So, like, he, the dude ends up dying, right?
And then, like, and the next day, like, he had to take the rental back that night.
The cops are already, he said he hears the helicopter over his girl's apartment.
because he had parked that rental car down the street.
So he said they got in her car and left the apartment.
He said as they drove by, he's seen them dust in the door handle of the rental for prints.
And so, right, and this is, this is, this was my introduction.
This is the first story I've heard when I got to the pen when people were telling me what they were there for.
So he tells me, he goes, yeah, man, and then I really started thinking I got paranoid.
I didn't want to go back.
He goes, there's no reason to get paranoid.
It's a done deal.
Yeah, you're sure of it.
It's about to get more fucked up.
Listen, he was like, my brother has a bunch of, had some acreage out there.
And so I called my brother.
And he said his brother, like they grew up in the same environment.
His brother was like helping at risk youth and shit.
And then he went to the street route.
You know what I'm saying?
And he said, but I told my brother, hey, man, I just, me and my girl got in a fight.
And I was wondering if I could just go stay at the trailer on your property and clear my mind.
And he was like, my brother let me.
He said, so when I went out there, I was thinking that I got a loose end.
And the loose end is my girlfriend.
And right then I decided she needed to die to.
So, bro, so he said he goes out there.
I swear to God, bro.
Roelio Jones.
Look at TDJ.
Put money on his books.
Send him a book or something.
You know, so he said he goes out to the property, digs a grave, digs her grave,
on the acreage and he was like, yeah, so I called her to pick me up because I wanted to fuck
her one last time. And this is how fucked up in the head this person is. You know, I wanted
to fuck her one last time and go eat dinner with her. You know, so they went and ate dinner
and he said he like fucked her at her apartment. And he was like, yeah, when she dropped me back
off, I was going to tell her to come inside for a little bit and I was going to kill her and bury
her out there. And by the grace of God, he said,
that they're like a mile away from the property
and as soon as they're about
to be there, Texas
Rangers, like they just get surrounded
in the middle of the freeway
and they take them in. He still
had the murder weapon in the car
on them, you know, because he was going to
use it twice. And like
so they, and he was right,
she was a loose in. It was all like
all the only thing they had was that car on traffic
cam and of course the car was in her name
but she testified against him.
And like, and he got 45 years for it.
So just a crazy story, but that was day one, or that was like week one in prison.
Like after I've been hanging out with this guy who I'm like, man, this dude's a pretty good
dude.
I realize, and that just kind of, from that moment, I just kind of stayed to myself.
Like, I'm like, hey, bro, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I can't.
Maybe I shouldn't get close to people.
Yeah, you know, and do my time on my own, you know.
So I finally get out of that intake unit.
And then, like, I go to another unit.
And then I finally end up, you know, I just bounce.
around the state, you know, they have, like, transfer facilities you go to, and, uh, I was just doing
a couple, a year here, six months here, a year here. And finally I made it to a trustee camp,
you know, and like, everything's typical prison shit, you know, people flopping on K2 and
fucking just bullshit. You know, I never really, I didn't fuck with any of the prison gangs,
any of the politics. I was really the guy, you know, I fucked with everybody, whether you're
white, black, Mexican, whether you got a swastika on.
you, you're a Crip or you're a blood.
I ain't involved in your politics.
If you're cool, I'll have a conversation with you.
I just, it was pretty much like that.
But like, nothing too exciting happened in prison.
So I end up making parole after like four and a half years, right?
I come home, you know, rejoined society.
And I realize how fucking hard it was, you know, like, because I'm like, man, I was so
dedicated, and I was like, when I go home, I'm going to live my life right. I'm not going to sell
no bullshit. I'm not going to do any drugs. Like, I'm going to get a real job, and I'm going to,
you know, just take care of my son. And at this time, I was still with my now ex-wife. But what year
was this? I got out December of 2019. Okay. And so, like, I get out. Me and her, we, you know, got divorced
shortly after I came home, you know.
Because, you know, when you're gone for four years, you know, people grow apart.
And I didn't hold, I didn't take anything personal, you know.
After I've been to prison, I didn't, I don't take anything personal anymore.
You know, it is what it is.
So it's like, and I wasn't fucked up about it.
I was just like, cool, you know, and I'm just going to get my shit together, move on with
life.
And then so, but bro, I can't get a job anywhere.
You know, I'm fucking, bro, I had an interview at Walmart.
and, like, they call me in and they talk to me, and they're like, oh, yeah, you want to work here?
I'm like, yeah, I just want a job.
And then they're like, okay.
And then they end up, like, sending me an email telling me, oh, no, our HR department just noticed that, you know, you have a felony.
You can't work here.
Same thing happened at UPS.
So at this time, like, I've got no job.
I'm on parole.
There's only one thing that I know how to do.
I don't have any money to get the jewelry ship popping again.
You get $100 when you're out the gate at TDC.
I think 100 when you leave, and then they give you 100 the first time you check in with parole.
So what do I do?
The only thing I know how to do, I call one of my boys that's on the West Coast.
I'm like, hey, are you still fucking around?
He's like, I'm not, but one of my boys is give him a call.
So I call him.
He's like, I put in a good word for you.
Call the dude.
He's like, yeah, man, come out, you know, and I'll shoot you 10 pounds.
Shoots me 10 pounds, you know, gone.
Because now with the state doesn't.
know is that they just strengthened me. They turn me into a super plug because now I got a phone
full of people that I've been like, hey, if I fuck around when I get out, give me your number.
So I just got tons of people, city to city, all over the state. So it's like I got all that
shit going again and like shit was going really good. I got to the point where a dude from
Washington would drive down 500 pounds, a thousand pounds. Like shit was good. You know, I was back on
top.
What are you telling them you're doing for work, parole?
Well, I started a CBD business, like on paper.
And so I was just putting all my money in the CBD, which, to be fair, technically, the
reason I was so willing to do this is like, because really it was CBD bud.
It was just hot CBD.
So if I ever got raided or anything, I'd be like, hey, test it.
You know, it's CBD.
There's no, you know, I just had to make sure the tax shit was on point.
But I was selling it for so cheap and in such big bulk, people didn't care.
Right.
Because, you know, it was like lower grade shit, but it was flying, you know.
And so life was going pretty good, you know, like I moved on with life and had saved some money.
Met a new woman, had a relationship with her.
You know, we've got a, we just had a daughter about six months ago or so.
And like, everything was, was cool.
And, but I knew that I didn't want to do that.
that shit forever. You know, I, like, looked in the mirror one day, and, like, same thing
when I look at my son, and I was just like, damn, bro, I don't want you to turn out nothing
like me. Like, I would do anything in this world for you to be nothing like me, because I think
of the shit I put my parents through. I think of the shit that I put my family through. I think
about how fucking selfish I've been. And so I was already on the fence.
of like just changing my ways right like because it was just and it got to the point where like the
game was saturated and everybody's hating on each other and people are getting popped and people
it's just a dirty game it's not like it was before you know when people were you know cool and
cordial now people are shooting and killing and robbing for nothing so that I guess I needed a moment
like that to happen so this guy and this just happened like six seven months ago this guy that I
have known for years.
His mom and dad bought their wedding bands from me
and Tyler at the jewelry store.
We had done some other plays together.
The whole time I was hustling, you know, that hot CBD,
I was throwing him pounds.
Like, everything was good.
And I'd posted on social media that I had some carts.
And, uh, what's carts?
Like the vape carts, T-HC carts, like the vapor.
I had a couple, like, I don't know, five, six.
I just had a bunch of boxes on them stacked up because my boy was just throwing them to me.
And I had taken a picture of his shit and he's like, yeah, you can take whatever you want if anybody wants
them. So right then the guy sees it on Snapchat. He calls me and he's like, hey, bro, are you in
Dallas or Houston? Because I'll go back and forth. And I said, man, I'm in Houston right now,
but I'll be in Dallas later. He was like, shit, bro, I need some of those carts. Can you bring
me some? I'm like expensive. Yeah, I mean, they resell for like,
Like, depending on the quality, there's so many different kinds of, like, uh, dive-ins and
different clarity levels, uh, but usually like 20 to 40 bucks a piece.
Oh, okay.
So this is a lot of money.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it adds up.
Yeah, this is $10,000.
Yeah, at least, at least.
And, uh, so I'm like, yeah, bro, I got you, you know, just when I get to town later,
and I was letting him go for like 10 of pop, you know, so I'm letting people double up.
I let it.
I've always been the type of guy, bro.
I just want, I'm just trying to make a little 30, 40% margins.
you can go triple double quadruple up because I'm trying to sell you 500 of them or 1,000 of them.
I'm not worried about nickel and diamond on the street corner, you know.
And so he's like, cool.
So he, I call him as I'm getting back in town.
And I'm like, hey, bro, send me what address you're at.
He's like, all right, I'm at a hotel with my girl.
I'm going to send you the address right now.
So, and that's a thing.
Yeah, but it sounds sketchy, but a lot of dudes out there, like, you know,
They don't want to do stuff at their house.
That, but a lot of them of others just post up in hotels.
Like, go to hotels for the weekend and just fucking leave them a fucking wreck.
And then just, I don't know, just stupid-ass shit.
Motherfuckers, we're all dumb.
So it's like, I'm like, cool.
So it's like a nice-ass hotel in a nice area.
So I really don't think anything of it.
So I pull in and he's like, yeah, gee, you'll see me out back.
I'm standing by a red charger.
So, like, I pull in the parking lot and I see him standing there.
And I'm like, what's up, dog?
And I shake his hand.
And I'm about to just tell him, hey, bro, I'm going to just front you like 200 of these.
I'm in a hurry.
I got to get out of here.
But before I can tell him anything, he's like, hey, let me hop in the car.
My girl's bringing my wallet down.
And I'm like, all right, that's cool.
Keep in mind, I've known this guy for fucking ever.
I don't think anything's weird about it.
So he gets in the car.
And he's like, hey, and cars are going by just casually.
He goes, hey, bro, pulling this spot right here.
we're in the middle of the road.
I'm like, bet.
Pull in the spot.
And then right then I see two doors pop open on the charger right beside me.
And these dudes got pushaisties on, which are like the ski mask that have like fuzzy
shit on them, you know, and they're all like, you know, dressed up.
And I'm just like, man, I ask them right then.
I hit the locks on my door and I put my car in reverse, but I still hadn't moved.
And I asked him, hey, bro, what the fuck are these guys doing?
He was like, shit, I don't know.
I look in the rear view and the guy.
are walking like they're walking to the door of the hotel. So I'm like, right then something in my
gut tells me, I'm like, hey, bro, get the fuck out of my car. He's like, what are you talking
about, bro? I'm like, get the fuck out of my car. I'll bring you some of these later. Like,
this shit don't feel right. He's like, and right as I said that, a dude starts pulling on my
door handle on my side and telling me, open the door, open the door. And I ask him, bro, who the
fuck are these guys? You know, he's like, bro, I don't know, gee, I don't know. Then somebody starts
pulling on his door handle.
They start pulling on his door handle.
He leans over and opens the door for him.
The dude leans in the car, pulls a pistol out on me.
And he's like, bro, come off everything.
Come off everything.
Come off your watch.
Give me the carts.
Whatever money you got, come off everything.
And hand of God, I looked at him in the eyes and I said, fuck you, bitch.
Hit the gas because I was already in reverse.
And plus, I've been around long enough to know, bro, don't pull a gun.
don't plan to use it.
And I could just tell by the look in his eyes, he wasn't ready to use that bitch.
You know what I'm saying?
And like, so I hit the gas.
He's trying to keep up with the car, you know, and, like, he sees I got a duffel bag
full of my dirty clothes from Houston on the floor, but he thinks that's where all the weights
at, all the carts.
He grabs it and, like, tries to take it with them.
But as I'm turning, and bro, I'm really on some Vin Diesel fast in the furious shit.
Like, my senses are at all time.
I'm locked in.
I'm reversing and like my door is open and he gets caught on the door like right there in
between another car and like the door just cracks him in his sternum bends all the way back on
him crushes him between the other car he falls down I run over his legs right over like his
lower half of his body the dude that set me up is in my front seat holding on to the fucking
door the door's flailing open because it's bent all the way back he's like what what's you doing
What, man, you know, I was on that juice.
So I fucking just used all my strength and just strong-armed him out of the car.
So he takes off rolling.
And then it turns in a little high-speed chase because the dude that was pulling on my door handle,
he jumps in the charger that they were in.
And he's like chasing me down.
I think it's Lyndon B. Johnson Freeway in Dallas.
I can't remember.
I'm not really from there.
I've just lived there the past year or so.
And, but I know this guy is not trying to just catch up with me to talk.
You know, I know, let's talk, let's work this out.
Yeah, I know that if he catches up with me, it'll be in a hell of gunfire.
And look, even though I may not always abide by the rules, I don't play with that having a gun shit, you know, because that's do not pass go, do not collect $200, your ass going straight to jail.
So it's like, I finally outrun them and shit, I make it back home, which is crazy.
I realized after I did that, the dude that tried to see.
set me up to rob me, he's been to my house before.
I've invited him over, so I'm like, but he didn't show up, you know what I'm saying?
He knows.
If I didn't do that with a car, you know, I'll be like, you know, I could have been prepared
myself.
So nothing turned into it, right, other than my car was just fucked up, dented from his body
on the front, like the door didn't shut.
Like, it was a fucking mess.
But, and I guess in retrospect, maybe I should have just been like, hey, bro, take
it but nah you know i'm from texas don't tread on me you know it's real shit out there you know so
but that moment like something changed like in my heart you know i looked in the mirror
after like the shock wore off because i'm like damn the betrayal you know what i'm saying like
that dude i had looked at that dude as a friend i've helped his family out like he's needed money
i've given it to him like that shit really just fucked me up and i was just like bro i can't
keep doing this anymore. I can't keep like living my life like this. What if shit would have went
bad and I would have got my ass killed over that shit. Right. Over nothing. And then like I couldn't
stand my kids, uh, growing up without me and then have the have that shame of like, well,
what happened to your dad? Oh, he got killed in a drug deal gone bad. Like that's not the legacy I'm
trying to leave, you know? And so I just made like a promise to myself. And,
And just like, I'm done with that shit.
I'm done selling drugs.
I'm going to use my...
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
What happened with the guy?
Oh, nothing.
I mean, one of them was in the...
Oh, well, the one dude I ran over, I broke his sternum.
Right.
And then the other guy sent me a message, which I'll show it to you.
But he's like, that's fucked up.
You ran me over.
But he never reached back.
I posted it on my Facebook and everything.
I told people the story.
And then I was like, here's the text message.
He was hitting me up on Facebook Messenger like, damn, bro, I don't know who those guys were.
What was that all about?
Why did you run me over?
What was going?
Playing games, you know.
But he knew what it was.
But also, this dude's like 23, 24.
I'm a grown-ass man.
Like, bro, I was doing stupid shit like that when I was 23, 24.
You're not going to outsmart me, you know.
I just let my guard down because I trusted you because we had done business before and to come to my house and shit.
But, yeah, I'm assuming he's fine.
I mean, I, you know, if not, fuck it, you know, you reap what you sew.
And, uh, but yeah, man, I just, I realized I didn't want to do that.
I just wanted to use my ability to, you know, whether it's talk to people about my story
or entertain people or just build relationships with people that aren't based around bullshit,
like selling drugs.
Because man, I really realized when I took a step back, like, I don't have many real friends.
Right.
You know, most of those people weren't friends.
They were just acquaintances.
They were just there because I was fronting them all the weed and shit.
Or if they needed money, they could call me and I'd loan it to them.
And then they could pay me back six months later.
Like, there was no friendship there.
It was all just relationships based on convenience.
So it's like when I quit hustling, I saw who my real friends were.
Right.
You know, and like, you know, I kind of just, I've been walking the straight and narrow now, you know, and this is when, you know, this is what I was going to tell you, you know, sometimes life is just real fucked up, you know, and it's out of our control and some of the shit we can control.
But like, man, sometimes I just think about, sometimes I look at myself and I'm like, damn, bro, you just threw your whole life away.
You know, you could have accomplished so much shit and you just threw your life away fucking with irrelevant.
relevant ass bullshit, you know, and that's when, and I know this is crazy, and I was kind of
just, like, searching what I was going to do, like, with my life, because I didn't know what
to do with myself when I'm not fucking involved in selling weed or something.
Like, I had to, like, figure out what, and I looked at, like, I don't pursue the music shit
anymore.
You know, I had my run with that, but it's like, I'm, I was too damn old.
When I got out of the pen, I'm not like, oh, I'm about to launch my music career again.
I was like 33, 34 when I got out.
I'm like, come on, man.
I'm not going to start the grind all over again that I started when I was 19, you know.
So it's like that dream kind of perished, you know.
And, but man, I'm telling you, that's when I found your podcast, you know, just happenstance.
You know what I'm saying?
And like, dude, that shit just fucking inspires the shit out of me.
You know, that, you know, like.
I knew you were going to do this
You told me you told me
But I'm just
You know it's real
That people got to know bro
Like people think that this is like YouTube bullshit
You know but it's real shit bro
Like you know what it's like
When you're in there
You're by your fucking self
You may go six months
And not get a visit
You may not get a visit at all
You know
You're just happy to get a fucking letter
And then you come out
And you try to fucking do shit the right way
In the world just fucking shits on you
You know what I'm saying?
Hopeless.
You feel hopeless.
A hundred percent, bro.
And that's how I felt.
But watching your shit, I'm like, damn, this fool turned it all around.
You know, his situation was 10 times worse than mine.
He had a shitload of time.
He did three times as long as I did.
And man, this dude just living the dream.
You know what I'm saying?
And like telling his story, affecting other people,
influencing people, giving people hope and inspiration.
And so be that as it may, I wound up on this podcast because I just left a comment on your video.
You know, it just left a comment telling you that you were inspiration from felon to felon.
And you're doing what we all strive to try to do.
And, you know, it got to you and here we are now.
And that's why I feel like, man, God's got.
got a plan for everybody, you know.
And if he didn't, I wouldn't be here.
You know, so genuinely, I do thank you for that shit.
Because, bro, when I had to give the game up, like, I felt so fucking lost.
I didn't know what I was going to do.
I realized my identity was just tied to, like, materialistic shit.
And, like, you gave me hope, bro.
So I really appreciate it.
Oh, I appreciate you saying it.
And I know that regardless, if you think so or not, a lot of other people that feel like they have no other options because whether they did it to their self or whether the judicial system just shit on them and chewed on them and spit them out and they feel like they got nothing, you're living proof.
You know what I'm saying?
And so.
No, I get it.
I mean, we talked about yesterday.
And I get, you know, I hear people say that all the time.
So, I mean, and it's always, you know, I try and blow it off, you know, but I mean, I get it.
So.
You're a real motherfucker, man.
And you've been nothing but a great dude since I've been here, you know, so I got a lot of respect.
And I really appreciate you, for real.
I appreciate you saying it.
Man, everybody feels that way.
Except your victims probably, but everybody else probably feels that way.
yeah but yeah man right now you know i'm just trying to get like you you know and also um
i'm going to give you my instagram so when the people in the comments come at me talking about
like this guy didn't do jewelry for this but all the pictures are there you know so we can just
you know snip that right there and they'll and we talked about this yesterday because we had
you know we talked for a few hours yesterday we went to starbucks and there's all it it doesn't
matter if you have newspapers video there's always some asshole you know there's always some
asshole that's all bullshit oh fuck off chances are though as those guys may have been like the way
i used to be before i had hope you know it's easy to just shit on somebody else that's trying
to let go with their old self and metamorphosize into their new self that's not for everybody
you know what i mean so i get it and i really don't
care. But, you know, just in case the people that are interested, you know, they can, you know, see
that way. We'll put the link. You know, we put the links in the description, any social media
links or anything you want me to put, we put it in the description. What's the name of it?
Well, my IG is just Campo made it. But I'm doing that series. I was telling you about the
watch this. It's called Watch This, where I'm interviewing the rappers and athlete about their
watch collections and just kind of interviewing them. So we're going to go live on that in July.
I've got some content already set up.
I've already got the YouTube channel made.
So I'll send you that link to July, July what?
I'm going to try and get everything up by my birthday, July 25th.
I was a little present to myself.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, but I really feel, man, this is the, in a roundabout way, you know, I feel reborn.
You know, it's like I'm not going to, I'm not interested in that shit that I used to do.
It's like I've already wasted enough time on that.
And I feel that, like, God's plans, God's plan.
You can't fight it.
Like, there are so many times that I should have, like, died in car wrecks,
because I've crashed a couple cars, fucking got shot one of the times I got held up at gunpoint,
but I'm still here and healthy and my family's good, my kids are good.
So, man, I know there's something bigger out there, and you're living proof.
well I appreciate it
so we were talking about it yesterday
we're like you know if you just
you know we're talking about like
it was like it was it wasn't necessarily God
it was just like it could be God or the universe
or whatever you think but you know to me
it's like if you're if you're on the right path
and you're doing the right things that
and heading towards it then
it just gets easier
you know and I didn't I never experienced that
until I got out and I started like
you know like I didn't know how we would
be here, but I knew I wanted to do something and I just had to work towards it a little bit
every day, you know, because you can't make one step and suddenly boom, it happens. It's just like,
I just got to kind of do a little incremental little steps towards it and I don't really know how
I'm going to get there. But the moment I kind of started doing that, it's like everything just started
kind of falling into place, even though it's taken years. Yeah. But it doesn't matter. It just,
it certainly happened much easier than it should have. Well, dude, and that's,
very true because there were times that even after I booked this pod I was like I don't know I may call him
and tell him I don't want to do it like I don't know if I want to do it because I guess I was just so
afraid of stepping out of my comfort zone and you know and I pray to God about it and I asked for
him to just send me a sign you know and he did and everything just started to line up and
I've squandered too many of my blessings that God's given me before the times that I've had
three, four hundred thousand dollars in cash and instead of going and doing something real with
that money to where I could take care of my family for a lifetime, I go and fuck it off.
You know, and it's like I'm not going to squander any more of my blessings.
And, fuck.
But I feel that, bro, you and Colby extending this opportunity to,
me was literally a blessing from God for a life-changing shit.
You anything else?
You feel good?
You feel okay about it?
Yeah, I feel.
I should have some, I should have some, every once in a while, we should have, like,
you know what I'm, I'm going to have a little shelf here for when I cry because we
had a video, remember the guy, uh, Hicks, the, uh, the, dude, his was so good.
Oh, my God.
And then people in the comments were like, bro, like, you couldn't get this dude some fucking tissue?
What's your problem, Cox?
And I was like, fuck it.
A whole time I was trying not to fucking tear up and start crying.
So I definitely need a little shelf right here.
I'm going to put it.
I'll have a little box.
I'll be like, boom.
Hell yeah.
Be ready with it.
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Dude, and Hawk, too, it just came out.
She's a pastor's daughter.
That's why she went online.
I knew it.
And you even said, you were like, she probably has well-off religious parents.
Damn