Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Con Man Loses $20,000!

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Con Man Loses $20,000!

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Yeah, he keeps saying that. And it's been... We drove down the strip. He told us about stealing credit cards or, no, you ran out of money. I flew out here with, like, $20,000. And, like, this was in, like, this was early on. This was before I even really started making a lot of money. This is when I was still carding.

I was still actually, like, physically going in the stores and, like, carding shit. So this was real early on. And I flew out here, I had about 20 grand, and it was, like, my first time. coming to Vegas, like, you know, like I'm my own with money, like with my big boy pants on, you know. And I came out here and I ran through the money in like three days or four days. Real fast. And when I came out, I flew out one-way ticket

and I didn't know, because I didn't know how long I was going to be here. You know, I mean, I was just going to hang out or whatever. I'm like, I got 20,000 dollars in now. Gone fast. You know what I mean? Between the hookers and the cocaine and the fucking casinos, this city will chew you up and spit you. you out. If you've never

been here before and you just show up with a bunch of money and you don't really know much about fucking the world you know what I'm a street smart but not I wasn't prepared for this out here you know so in four days it was gone. A couple cookers got a hold of me and it was fucking it was over with

fucking hell it's draining all the money we're getting high in a fucking hotel room three or four days and I came out with my pants falling off me because I lost fucking weight You know what I mean I just fucking shacked up with some fucking prostitutes, dude. And I didn't even have money to fly home with, to fucking fly home with the plane. So I had to actually call my little brother, and I had to have him get some cards that I had already printed up that were in my safe.

I had to have him overnight him to me, UPS, so that I could go to Walmart and Target here in Vegas and card PlayStation's and put him on Craigslist to get cash to get back home. so I was on a fucking I was in a little those little roach motels over there off of Flamingo fucking I don't know if they're in they don't know if they're there anymore

they were like 10 years ago there there 10 11 years this is probably more than 10 years ago this is probably like 15 years ago and I was in one of those little roach motels off of Flamingo and I would have like five or six playstations

in the fucking room with me on the bed and I was just on Craigslist on my phone just sitting there waiting and I And I didn't even have money for the hotel the next night So I had this list of them I had to wait for somebody to buy a fucking PlayStation

Just so I could pay for the hotel that night So I could sell more PlayStation So then I can get a plane ticket So that I can fly back to Florida I gotta get some water I have water There is it straight out of the chair It's all right

It's Vegas man they pipe all this water in anyways It's all pumped in from California right They drain in that fucking place dry And all they got a drought going on right now. It's like super dry out there. The Colorado River is at its lowest point it's ever been in, like, record yesterday. Don't quote me on that. I don't know if that's accurate.

I may have read that somewhere in a headline. And now I'm just regurgitating that fact to self-seem, formed, and intelligent. Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with this thing. I don't know what's wrong with this. Dude, you're fucking, I don't know what you did to it. Look how crisp. Chris. Yeah.

I don't know. Whatever. I'm not worried about it. So, um, so we're here. We came here. In Las Vegas. To shoot some, uh, some videos because, uh, I'm here to go on a podcast with, uh, Ryan Panetta, which is a real estate guy. I actually just came out to tag along and, uh, shoot video and shoot some shit for my, uh, my channel while I was here.

It was a, how long was your flight? It was 40 minutes. And it cost me 80 bucks. Jeez. I changed. I had to change planes. I sat between... Oh.

You're a layover? Listen, I layover. I sat between these fuck, like four or five horrible little kids. No way. Oh, yeah. There's one by the window. His grandmother's with him. There's another one over here.

There's two in front. There's one kid behind me, kicking the seat. A little girl. Her father has no control over her. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, oh my guys, it was the worst. So, what airline did you fly? Spirit. There you go.

Spirit. Yeah. See, I don't go with the budget airlines anymore. I just, I can't. I did, listen, I made a whole video. I don't know if you watched it about the Frontier Airlines flight I was on. Right. It was the most insane thing.

It was like the, it was like being on a Greyhound bus, but we're in the sky. and are these pilots even qualified to fly this fucking plane? Because literally the flight attendants were like dollar store fucking workers. Like their uniforms were just all disheveled and they looked like they had just smokes and

weed rolled out of bed and came to work as fucking flight attendants here at fucking frontier airlines. I swear to God it was crazy. It was the most unprofessional experience I've ever had on a fucking an airline here in the United States. Now I've been on some airlines down in Mexico that were, but you just

expect that down there you know what I mean like fucking um I was gonna say I have a buddy they bring chickens on the planes and the shit down there no joke I have a buddy that that flies for spirit by the way um he's okay like he he can fly and he'll go he'll tell you he'll tell you they're they're they're they're they're they're they're top is this rock bottom he's like they he's like things will go wrong in the plane and he said that you're supposed to mark down at the end of flight, okay, this is wrong, this is wrong, but you also have to fix those things. He goes, now if you say they're right

and they're fine, and you get off the plane and the next guy figures it out, now's his problem. It's like, so you'll get on a plane and immediately something, you realize something's wrong, you're like, there's no way that the other pilot didn't know this.

And he, you know, so, anyway, but yeah, he said they're, they're rock bottom. Dude, did you see that fucking, the video, that flight from, it was Colorado to Hawaii and the fucking the whole um the skirt that's around the engine broke off and went into the engine the engine just burst into flames and it was just shredded and somebody's literally shooting cell phone video out of their fucking window and the engine's just doing like this and it's on fire and they're like gonna make it and masks are down they're

making emergency landing this was just like a couple months ago no joke what airline uh was american or fucking southwest one of them it was one of the big ones And that's not the first time to happen to one of those planes That's it It's fucking like a common problem with that plane So now in my mind I know all the planes by heart Like the A322 fucking airbus

The fucking you know what I mean Like I know all the planes So now I know the ones that have issues So like And I know like I look at my itinerary I look and see what the plane is What they cause they give you the model number of the plane And I'll rebook my flight to a different plane

If that plane has been known to fucking have mechanical failures I'm fucking rain man And when I fly, I'm like, ring, because I do it so fucking much. Also, I have to have the same seat on the plane every flight. If I don't get that seat, I book another flight as well. I've heard you say this before. I do. I have to have either fucking 14A on the fucking 332 airbus because it's right behind the exit row on the left wing,

or I have to have 17G if it's a fucking... Why? An A40, I don't know. just my skin feels like it's going to crawl off my bones dude if i don't get that seat you know what i mean it's like i just feel comfortable i like i like i'm right on the wing and if the plane crashes the wings are full of fuel and i'm going first so i'm going to die immediately if the plane crashes immediately i'm going to be the first one to go you want to go first i do yeah you don't want to survive no because you're not going to survive that long and it's going to be horrible you know

it's like i want to be the first one to go whenever i talk to something that's coming comforting for me. That's what, that's the only, that's the only way I can fly knowing that if I get that seat, I'm going to be the first one to die in the airplane. That's the only comforting, that's how I fly. That's how I fly and sleep like a baby on the plane. I've always thought, like when you ever here talk, people talk about like a nuclear like World War III and they're like, yeah, well, you know, where a zombie apocalypse. Dude, I would like to be on a picture this. I would like to be on an airplane. And all you're seeing are nuclear bombs going off while you're flying above the clouds and you're just looking at your window and all

you're just watching all these fucking nuclear bombs going off. If you're lucky, you're hit by one because you don't want to survive that. Dude, that would be an EMP. It would take the plane wouldn't you imagine, right? You don't want to survive a nuclear, a nuclear holocaust. It would be horrible. Everything would break down. I got, I'm going to build a shelter. I'm going to build a fucking, a bomb fucking, you think, listen, I got, you should see my

Pinterest, my motherfucker. I got entire folders dedicated to my goddamn fallout shelters and electrical systems and you know recycling rain water and fucking

tell you bro wait until I get a little bit of money god damn and I'm burying a couple shipping containers in the goddamn ground

have you ever seen the TV show Survivors or something no doomsday yeah there's a guy who's got like

40 of them out in the middle of the desert everything's run on solar he can grow his own food he's got tons of

like he he knows what's up he's got His thing is like... And I'm not even saying, like, I want to build it. Where's he's coming with the money to get all this? Like, you, a normal person can't do this. There's some kind of griff going on, huh?

Something's going on. They never explain that. He's some big... He's cheating his taxes. He's some big... He's some big fat redneck. And it's like, where did you get the money to do this? Like, you didn't earn this working as your welding job.

Did something happen? You'd be surprised you. Some of the old rednecks do they'll just sell a couple of acres. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, though, they got. got hundreds of acres they just inherit they'll just burn a couple acres every year just sell a couple and live off that fucking money every year until fucking everything's gone down to nothing until they get

like a big harvest in and then they fucking pay off loans and all that shit i listen i came from midwestern um americana fucking farm culture dude i fucking i know all about it i did i grew i actually lived on i never we didn't put this in the book and i never really talked about it with you but i remember when i was younger i lived on a farm it was my actually my family farm it was so when my family came here from Poland in like 19 I want to say it was like during the three beginning of World War II they migrated here from Poland and apparently they had a bunch of money and they bought a lot of land in Michigan and they owned a farm which my great-grandfather had and then my grandmother was born on that farm and then my

grandparents my grandma got married and then moved off the farm but the farm got passed to somebody else in the family and then it changed hands a few times. times but it ended up coming back to us and then I lived on the farm with my aunt and my uncle and my little brother when I was a kid and I remember the roosters waking me up every morning when the sun was barely coming up and you're like when the sun starts to crush you see that golden fucking roosters in the morning straight up dude every morning I used to wake up the roosters it was wild I remember that it was a good memory it's one of the better memories I have my life for some reason it's just like comforting you know the sun coming through the window I'm in

old hundred hundred hundred fifty-year-old farmhouse second floor here here what did you smoke when you went outside dude i've been smoking haven't i been smoking good since i've been rolling fucking joint well because i bought i bought on about a but you know i can't take it back out on the plane with me so i'm gonna smoke it all while i'm just and you nobody here smokes with me so, which is cool so I can just smoke joints like cigarettes and fucking mob around Vegas while you guys are

you know doing boring stuff Oh my God, you know what time it is? For me it's 3 o'clock Almost 3 o'clock in the morning right now Yeah Yeah, that's a bummer I try to sleep on the plane Kip was kicking me

And then by the way, when I mentioned it to Tyler I was like, man, he booked me on spirit When I asked him I said, but what, what? What airline did you fly in out? He was like, Delta. And I go, I said, well, I wasn't spirit. I mean, you know, he doesn't take spirit.

He doesn't fly spirit with the commoners. He looked at me like. With the peasants? I was like, well, how come you don't put yourself on spirit? He's like, you serious? Delta first class. Delta business class. That's funny.

You know, what else? They don't know what the problem is all the good stuff we talk about? Like, we can't talk about it. You never want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it on camera. All the good stuff. I don't, because it's like, you know, there's, this is all going to be online. And, you know, it's going to be, it's going to be a catalog of stuff for people to go back and look at.

And, like, some stuff is just like... So you'll never be able to run for president? I mean, city council at most. Could you imagine? In my 50s? Why not? Yeah. This is going to be a bold new world out there.

You can always look back when people say, oh, he, this, you can say, hey, that was 15 years ago or 30 years ago. Then I made some money. And then I started this. Then I started that. You know, I didn't live my... I always love Arnold Schwarzenegers. He was like, when he ran, he said, whoa, he said, I didn't live my life expecting expecting to be running for governor, okay?

because they had pictures of him smoking pot and drinking and doing all kinds of you know used to take chicks out but what did you ever see pumping iron oh it was great is it a porn no right it's him working out it's all how like this is like he'd already won like god he had won like five or six mr olympias and he goes and he it's like six or seventh one and they this this film crew follows him around and I mean he's talking about you know he's he's sleeping with all these different chicks he's doing all this different stuff he's smoking pot he's drinking you know that was a big deal he's drinking he's doing all kinds of stuff they would take a weight set and go out in the middle of the woods with a couple of chicks and they would bang the chicks work out bang the chicks work out i mean he's just he's a maniac and he was so he was so cocky i mean just great at one point he's talking to luferigno who was bigger than him way bigger and he goes so he says the loo they have just before the competition right that night he says that's going to be an issue i mean it's going to blow a little bit

you could this is this is you know look it's going to be fine he's like it's fine He goes to breakfast with Lou Ferrina before the competition. And Lou's like his dad is sitting there going, oh, he's bigger, Lou's bigger than you, Arnold. He's tougher. He's stronger. It's this, he's that. And Arnold's going, he's amazing. He does.

He looks amazing. He's phenomenal. You are. You're bigger. You're stronger. You're this. You look great. You look phenomenal.

You're the better, you're the better bodybuilder, Lou. And he's like, and he's blue for him. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, he goes, Arnold goes, you know, you just miss timed your diet. I mean, if the competition was in five days from now, you win. He just mistimed it. And it happens. And he just was like, what do you mean?

You mistimed his diet. Like, he didn't lose enough weight. So he's like, you're perfect except you're like a week away from being able to win. And he's like, and so Lutheran, you know, just, you. can see in his face, immediately you see in his face, he's just like depressed. I guess you've got a new

happen enough for this one. What happened? The God's track. What's funny about it is listen, Arnold was so cocky he had already called up his mother and told her he won.

Yeah, that's what he said, and the thing he was and so Lee just completely just, he mind fucks. Luferigno over. It's a great, it's a great video. I mean, it's a great documentary. Puppin' iron.

Probably there's a pumping iron in porn somewhere. So what was it the update with Jeff? There was a porn with Loufrogno and fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger

and it was called pumping irons. He was shot like 78. Could you imagine all the bush? Dude, holy shit! You see the tranquility we have now for filming?

Way better. It's because the AC was on. I know. But now it's, you know. You can click on Final Cut Pro, you can click, like, you know, to reduce the... Dude, I edit everything in LumaFusion.

I don't even have Final Cut Pro. I don't even know what that is. It's on my iPad. I don't edit anything at all anyway, at all because now... Colby. Does it. I'm going to be sleeping right now because...

You know what? Listen, I don't mind editing because here's why I don't mind editing. I fuck up a lot in my videos and I have to stop and I have to repeat myself and I have to repeat myself. And there's certain angles or facial expressions or like body language that only I would know that I want to keep that I wouldn't want to get rid of. You know what I'm saying? So, but when you when you sub that out to someone else, you're just.

giving all of the creative control to them to frame and in all that stuff and I just I don't think I ever want to do that like I don't think I I think I always want to edit all my own fucking podcast and stuff yeah I mean I'm I'm on the crazy I'm fucking just I'm a nut

with the with the quality control and the whole creative process like I don't think I would ever want to give that up unless I was going to somebody's paying me like a hundred grand a year and I'm just going to show up at a studio and do podcasts now that would be if there's anybody out there that wants to pay me $100,000 a year to come to a studio and just fill a podcast, I'll do 10 a day.

I'll work 80, I'll work 100 hours a week. I don't even fuck. Yeah, you just have to talk. That's it. I just sit there and run my mouth like an idiot, like I do anyway. That's pretty much how I feel. I'd do that. I'd do it.

And your channel just got monetized? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure did. I hit, I finally hit all my benchmarks. for monetization you're um start getting paid on my videos you know what's good about that is that um what's good about that is now youtube will push your stuff more because they have incentive to now yeah yeah yeah now they're incentivized yeah yeah you don't notice that before and uh you're the AC wait what's that one noise probably the refrigerator

I don't know what are going to say. Because of the engagement I have with my subscribers, I think it just, it's all good for the algorithm. And I think when the algorithm finally kicks in and it picks up my channel, it's just going to fucking, it's going to go hang. I'm going to have fucking yawning over here. I mean, I'm, um.

How old are you? 52 I'm 51 51 okay I'll be 52 in July I got you July what I'm talking about that earlier

I always had you no oh oh oh god my February 6 but it's on my YouTube it's on my Wikipedia page show yeah my July 2nd Yeah, that was so interesting

That was one of those conversations If somebody would have been like in the backseat shooting that Was that like a third camera or something Or just like somebody like a third wheel Sitting over the camera shooting the whole conversation Yeah That would be cool Listen I got a little cousin

Her name's Brookeie And when I flew out to California I gave her I put like in this fucking Samsung phone that was a good camera on it on a gimbal and I gave it to her and I said look for we're going to the beach and you're going to shoot all the fucking B-roll. Right. And she did

and she was good at it. Like she took direction and she's like okay what we're going to do it? I was like okay well we're staying here I'm going to walk this way and when I'm walking this way I want you to slowly walk around me like this with a gimbal and she was like okay and she would do it and she's like wait well the son's this way so can we stand this way and do it I'm like okay and we get different shots we do it like three or four times

I'm just saying you know and she she probably do it for free yeah what wait she's does she lived near me

she lives in hunting to beach California well I mean I might I don't know if I'm gonna edit this one

I might edit this one So you want to leave in the shop Oh yeah I am Yeah I am no longer tattooing at tattoo shop there

Yeah what happened I want to be able to kind of have the freedom to do whatever I want to do and you know tattooing's been my life for as long as I can remember you know it's been the only thing that I've ever really given to fuck about you know what I'm saying it's like I used to live and fucking sleep and breathe tattooing it's all that's all I did you know that was my culture that's I always wanted to be a part of that world I always wanted to the tattoo shop I was going to fucking hang out with those people and then it happened like one day it just became fucking my everyday thing and I was happy for a long time but then now it just kind of

feels like it kind of feels like a job now you know what I mean like the fun isn't in it anymore for me you know like it feels like when I have to go to a tattoo shop and I just sit there all day long and I'm not tattooing like I'm just like if I don't have any appointments I have to just wait for fucking and if nobody comes in for a tattoo i'm literally just sitting there all day long and i can just sit there all day long and not do anything to stare at the wall and that's fine and nobody tells me to like pick up a mop or anything right which i'm cool i like that that aspect of it's fucking pretty dope you know what i'm saying like so but me you know me actually having to waste all that time yeah but you're not making any money with you

i'm not making any money and i feel like i'm just wasting all that time where i can be doing other things you know so now I got a you could edit videos right I can edit videos and I can do you know other YouTube shit like tags and fucking work on thumbnails and all that shit yeah I can but you know um yeah but I thought also the issue was also if you have to go on a podcast like you're constantly saying hey yeah tomorrow I can't be here hey next Tuesday I'll leave for three days yeah it's getting and I can understand from like a business owner's perspective you know with me, so it's like, I always got to take off weeks and days at a time, and it's just like

Yeah, your boss like that needs something, he wants someone that's going to be there every day. It's like a job, dude. Yeah. And, you know, I feel it. I feel it. You know what I'm saying? It's all good, but it's just not working. No. No.

So what are you going to do about tattooing? Can you just keep tattooing? I may have to keep tattooing, dude, but you know, I got a, um, I rented another, I rented a second office in the building where I have my studio for my podcast

and I'm just going to settle my stuff up in the second in the second room and I'm going to do all my painting and on my art and all my fucking tattooing in the one office and then I'm going to film on my podcast and add it on my video and you know do all my social media shit from the other

one right and that's just how it's going to go for right now and that's going to give me the freedom to say like say I have a client that I have to do a tattoo like five-hour tattoo on. But then I know I had to shoot a podcast that night, too. All I got to do is walk out of one office and into the other one.

You know what I mean? And I can fucking finish one thing and do the next. I don't have to drive fucking 40 minutes. And you know what I mean? Get all settled in. It's like, you know, it's just really optimizing my life at this point. And that's like the only one I'm focused on is just like optimization. That's about your new co-host.

He doesn't want to use them on. play anymore. No, the, I mean, what, no, I'm saying what, what's the, that, yeah, what about the,

uh, the, uh, the, uh, Scottish guy. Is he Scottish or Irish? He's from Scotland.

All right. Oh, I wish I could get him on a fucking, on a fucking, uh, FaceTime video right now for the podcast. Shoot, isn't he slit?

What time is it? Were you? No, it's, it's only midnight. Should be up. I can do it though. Well, devices are being used because let's tell us let's talk about that let's talk about the

ineptitude of everybody in this fucking hotel room right now how about that because i'm i'm not including myself i'm including myself what don't we do with a we were all like the fucking three stooges and everybody was fucking playing with those cups with the fucking peanut underneath it why don't we do you want to do that here you want to cut it and do that for another video we can just cut it out of this one Right, but I was going to stop all of them and try and figure out what's going on with this camera. Because you were, your face is black in this camera at this point.

I don't know what's going on. Like, it's worse now than it was before. Like, we got to. Let's just keep rolling and fuck with it. And we won't edit none of this shit out. We use it all. We use all this. But what's, I'm saying, the nice thing about it right now

is that you can take up and just stack them. At this point, you can stack. At the moment we turn off one of the devices. But this is like a blooper reel. Right here. This is why we gotta keep it going. This is fucking, this is like bloopers for fucking... And when we'll just cut in some of that music, that, da, da, da, da. We got to stop the video.

We have to stop. I'm in the zone, man. I don't want to fucking start. Whatever. It's just, look, yeah. All right.