Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Convicted Cop Breaks His Silence After 34 Years | Kent McGowen

Episode Date: July 14, 2026

After spending nearly two decades in prison for a controversial on-duty shooting, former deputy Kent McGowan breaks 34 years of silence to share his account of the case, the legal battles that followed, and his ongoing fight to clear his name.⁣ ⁣ Kent's links - ⁣ https://www.instagram.com/kentmcgowen/?hl=en⁣ Check out his book here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GX32FXRC?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_ZVH8DSQGS2GHZ9E2JEKQ&bestFormat=true⁣ Donate here - https://www.givesendgo.com/G31TC?utm_source=sharelink&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=G31TC⁣ ⁣ Do you want to be a guest? Fill out the form https://www.insidetruecrimepodcast.com/apply-to-be-a-guest⁣ ⁣ Get 15% off your first order of Ultra Pouches. Just visit https://TakeUltra.com and use code COX at checkout.⁣ ⁣ Shop my merch: https://www.etsy.com/shop/MatthewCoxCollection⁣ ⁣ Send me an email here: [e-mail]⁣ ⁣ Do you extra clips and behind the scenes content?⁣ Subscribe to my Patreon: https://patreon.com/InsideTrueCrime ⁣ ⁣ Check out my Dark Docs YouTube channel here -⁣ https://www.youtube.com/@DarkDocsMatthewCox⁣ ⁣ Follow me on all socials!⁣ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/⁣ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matthewcoxtruecrime⁣ ⁣ ⁣ Do you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopart⁣ ⁣ Listen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox ⁣ ⁣ Check out my true crime books! ⁣ Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCF⁣ Bent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TM⁣ It's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8⁣ Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5G⁣ Devil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438⁣ The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3K⁣ Bailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402⁣ Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1⁣ ⁣ Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel!⁣ Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WX⁣ ⁣ If you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here:⁣ Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69⁣ Cashapp: $coxcon69⁣ ⁣ Chapters: ⁣ 00:00 - Breaking 34 Years Of Silence⁣ 02:13 - Joining Harris County Sheriff's Office⁣ 05:22 - The Informant Connection⁣ 08:08 - The Stolen Gun Buy-Bust⁣ 11:09 - Threats From Susan White⁣ 17:21 - Securing The Arrest Warrant⁣ 26:45 - Serving The Warrant⁣ 33:04 - The Fatal Shooting⁣ 41:24 - Immediate Aftermath⁣ 43:14 - Crime Scene Investigation⁣ 49:14 - Grand Jury Proceedings⁣ 58:06 - Indicted For Murder⁣ 1:01:23 - First Convicted Officer⁣ 1:06:49 - The First Trial⁣ 1:12:43 - Prosecutors' Theory Of Motive⁣ 1:18:23 - Alleged Relationship Claims⁣ 1:20:34 - Winning Multiple Appeals⁣ 1:22:01 - Prosecutor Harasses Family⁣ 1:26:35 - Ten Years On Appeal⁣ 1:29:10 - Preparing For Retrial⁣ 1:31:31 - Hiring New Defense Counsel⁣ 1:35:03 - Defense Strategy Unravels⁣ 1:42:32 - The Second Trial Begins⁣ 1:47:01 - Guilty Verdict And Prison⁣ 1:49:00 - Entering Texas Prison⁣ 1:52:26 - New Legal Team⁣ 1:55:08 - Challenging The Conviction⁣ 1:58:38 - Fighting For Parole⁣ 2:01:40 - Texas Rangers Investigation⁣ 2:04:17 - Finally Granted Release⁣ 2:08:11 - Investigating The Case⁣ 2:13:12 - Book, Donations & Next Steps⁣ 2:14:24 - Why He Keeps Fighting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I was the first police officer in this country to get indicted convicted and sent to prison in line duty shooting. I did nothing wrong because we stupidly set silent for 34 years. Yeah, my name is Ken McGowan. I was a law enforcement officer in Texas, working with the Harris County Sheriff's Office. I was involved in a line of duty self-defense shooting set up by some very corrupt lawman over a personal vendetta. And I was sent to prison for 20 years for something I didn't do. And now after 34 years of sitting quiet, we have a book come out and I'm doing these podcasts to get my story out there, If it could happen to me, it could happen to anybody out there.

And I'm also here just to set the record straight that all the tabloid trash, just sensationalistic documentaries, books out there are just a bunch of lies. They're here to get the actual story out to get the truth out and expose who's responsible and hold them accountable for this. Yeah, I went to Houston Police Academy, graduated in May of 85, went out on patrol, did my field training program. I left one of resigning. There was a lot of controversy that went on at each PD.

in the tabloid trash about my case. None of that happened. It's all been disproven. There's no documentation of any of the allegations that were made. And I never had anything against me. It was just some crazy stuff going on. What do you mean? In the police department when you left?

Yeah. When I left, I was married and it was wrong. It still is. But didn't want to date any female police hostas. That was a problem. And we all avoided that. And I got involved in this one. It was stupid.

We're at a police owned and operated bar, stayed open after hours. And, you know, I wound up having a little three-week fleeing with this girl. And she was insane. She was insane. And she caused a lot of problems. She wanted to get fired. They pulled her commission and made her be just a civilian employee for a year, go to weekly psychiatric issues.

She pulled the same stuff. Broke in my house, my apartment I had in town with a civilian roommate, took him hostage and tried to shoot herself, try to shoot me. And needless to say that that didn't last long, that relationship until we got, our commander got wind of it, put a halt to all that nonsense. But when I left to pursue college, actually, my intentions were to read a law degree. And since Houston did not have a leave of absence program, I had to resign. I was just planning on going back. But the Sheriff's Department had a reserve division there, Sheriff's Department of Harris County, in which Houston is encompassed.

And I took a commission, well, I applied for reserve. position and the detective who's doing my background investigation used to work for my brother at a different agency and he called and he said hey why don't you in a full-time position man and i said well i'm going to school and he goes hey look we're hiring some instructors you have the experience and the and the certification and whatnot i was like man my wife's like don't do it you're going to suck right back into it so i went to work there i was an instructor i was an instructor about 16 18 months i got pulled out to go to on street patrol in a northwest harris county County, which is the nicest part.

Now it's just a complete nightmare. It's just going to rapper for sure. But I got sent out there to West Side, I mean to District 1, Northwest Harris County. First day in there, I walked in and met Sergeant DeRosero, David Ruggiero. This guy starts jumping my ass right and walked in. And I was like, man, hang on, dude, you know? So I said, when in his office? I said, what's your beef with me, brother?

He said, man, I heard this. I said, you don't know jack shit about me, man. I'll tell you, I don't know you. You don't know me. you know, what did he say he heard? He called me, how did you do things below board? You know, he ain't pulling the shit out here because at the time there was a bureau commander, a major. And he, I think a lieutenant, four sergeants to me, we owned a nightclub and some other stuff out in that area.

And he got wind of this, pistol. But this sergeant, he had no business being a police officer, let alone a supervisor, an utter coward. I mean, the story that I could tell about that guy was ridiculous. But if something happened out in that beat, like a district like his he was married but had a girlfriend owned a big nightclub when it was like 15 miles out of my my beat whatever something happened you know tell me to go run it you know we had a couple of capital murders whatever he always want me to go there because he knew my my training experience at houston pd where houston i ran more calls in a week than the county did a deputy did in a

deputy county probably did in a year it was crazy but out that area it was we're totally un unman our manpower was below anything you could possibly think of. There's many people we had out there. So we had very few deputies working vehicles. We're light years behind Houston PD. We had no computers, nothing. It was all still manual writing reports by hand, stuff like that. But it started to call me in. He starts getting them in my ass. I said, hey, man, fucked in. Shut the door. So let me tell you something, man. This is no stripes and no badge. What's your problem with me? I heard this. I said, I don't even sure what you heard, man. You're going to talk to me in front of these deputies. He's like, so. And so, of course, I go back out there.

And he and I didn't. Nobody on that whole division like that guy. Couldn't stand that dude, man. It was the way he was. I mean, a coward. But there's several scenes that I made where he told me to go to where he was there. He was a shocking one he did. I was there on patrol.

I got there on April 3rd of 1992, the first day out of my patrol. And I was out there maybe a month or so. I pull over Michael Schaefer, he wanted to be in my confidence inform him. And this beat I had had three really nice neighborhoods in it, you know, upper bourgeois. And he's running his whole ratty-ass little station wagon and rolled through those, it's like two in the morning. I was working night shift 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. And Schaefer runs the stop sign right in front of me. Of course, you know, I'll pull him over.

And he was driving and a guy in the pastor seat who we found out later with Keith Skora, plays a big part in this. And a girl on the back who was Michael Schaefer's girlfriend. I pull them over that little bit of the car no citations issued contrary to the tabloid trash books and documentaries or there if there ever been a citation there would have been a record of it I issued them tickets I asked them who on the he's like man I didn't I didn't and uh so I don't catch out of this stuff anymore brother and so I cut him loose a few weeks later I pull him over it pull him over again same traffic stop and he starts talking about us hey you know this thing

like these automatic weapons out here I said yeah because we did have a lot of automatic weapons showing up on a drive-by shootings, shooting up houses and whatnot. And so he burched out those story to him. He said, hey, I'm going to ball this burglary ring. And he's real gang members out of real gangbangers out of Houston. We're coming up. And this is in 1992.

And those little like Chevy loves and a little small pickup truck lowriders were in the thing. And they're basically these rich white kids, except for this guy, this little hangar on, why don't be my informant? but these real gang bangers are coming up recruiting then they're burglarize these houses and then the real gang bangers out of Houston wanted the weapons and they're converting them to full auto

AR-15s and Mnivore 15s and B. 14s and whatnot converting them to full auto and putting them back on the street and that's what's showing up on that. These are weapons that are being taken out during burglaries. Right. Yeah, these guys are ripping them off going into houses and targeting

whatever booty they took on top of that name. They kept an sword or whatnot. But they So he runs this whole story to me, right? So I had a lieutenant, Jay Coons, great lieutenant Marine. This guy was a policeman's policeman. And I went to my lieutenant and skipped over to Sergeant Rozierro because I didn't trust this guy at all. He was utterly incompetent.

Lieutenant Coons was not. He was just the opposite. This guy was a fantastic commander. So I ran by what the informant told me. And he said, well, you know, work a deal with him. All right. We'd on the scene with that informant, I'd given them, we had beepers back then. Yeah.

We gave him on a beeper number and I rode over back to my card. And a couple weeks later he called me. And he said that, we called me on my beeper. I called him back and he said they'd hit a house, burglarized a house. And one of the guys involved in that run had a stolen pistol. Did I want to buy it? And I said, yeah. I called Lieutenant Coons.

He said, yeah. So I came in that night and worked plain clothes. And I got a wrecker. I was playing clothes driving a wreck and I went and sat in a parking lot. We're going to do the buy bust on the stolen handgun. Right. So my informant, he's sitting in his car and then another vehicle pulls up, a red Mustang, and then a, is a Camaro or something, two girls.

Before you go any further, why is he, like, why is he acting as an informant? That's a very good, that's a very good question. When he first started telling me all this about the doubt, because I was very suspect. Because it's not like you had arrested him or anything. Yeah, exactly. That's a, that's a big part in this. And I've been asked that numerous times. times. And I wanted that at the time, too. You know, because most people who snitch, they do it to get rid

of competition. Yeah. Or to get out of a payback. You get out of something. Sometimes that, you know, that matter. But, uh, which leads into the why he did it. It leads into it. But, um, yeah, I ran by Coons. They said, let's do the deal. So I get the informant $200 and then to buy the gun. Okay. And so I'm in the parking lot. I see a red, uh, Mustang pull up. And it was driven by Jason Aguilar and another guy in it who was actually the the key scuror, the guy who's in the vehicle stopped a few weeks earlier. But I got lied about his, who is, his identification to this day. We've never seen this guy. The DA's office hit him all these years. But I see him get out, Michael Foreman, Michael Schaefer, my informant gets out, and I see him go to Jason Aguilar,

who has a stolen revolver, as a Smith & Wess of 357, and they exchanged cash for the weapon. So I get the by bus, whole team goes in. Take everybody down, include, you always take down the informant. There's two teenage girls that were there. They're all screaming. We don't even know these guys, man. We just met them down the street at the club, no, no, no. And so I got those girls, I say, hey, man, you need to get out of here.

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Let them know Inside True Crime sent you. So these girls take off and they go down to a steak restaurant. and they get the mother of Jason Aguilar, the guy who sold us the pistol. They get his mother, who I wound up shooting 40 hours later over this. These two teenage girls go get the mother, Susan White. I just call her the suspect. That's all she ever was, and she was ever was a felony suspect. She was married at the time, and she was a Ray Valentine, her boyfriend, who was also married at the time.

Of course, we weren't married to each other. But they come down there, and it's Ray Valentine looked like something off of Joe Pesci movie. big old heavyset guy, Jet Black Hairer, combed back, the gold Italian love horn and like a black silk suit with a red silk shirt with the big collar on it. And I see him pull. I'm wearing plain clothes. I see him pull up and getting out. And I said, look at him my partner, Scott Genovese. And I said, man, I said, there's always pissed off parents.

With Susan White, the suspect, she walks over to four other deputies calling them McGowan. And one of them was Tommy Welch. I was 27. I was 511, 185. Tommy watched like 64, probably 350, well over 6 foot tall. He goes, I'm a McGowan. That's McGowan. She goes up to Chris Gush, tall skinny, red-headed green eyed deputy. Really nothing like.

She did it's a further deputy. And finally, he said, that's McGowan one over there. And I was kneeled down near the open back door with the patrol car where her son, Jason Aguador was in there. I was getting information to tow his cars, a red Mustang, which had bullet holes in it from the drive-by shootings. they've been involved in, stolen purses, credit cards, debit cards, whatnot. But she walks over and Scott Genovici looked nothing like me.

She starts hollering him calling him a gallon. So obviously 48 hours, she didn't know me. Right. Part of shooting. And I said, and I stand up. I said, I'm a gallon. She said, that's my son. This is a fucking setup.

He would never get involved in something like this. And she was clearly toxicated, if not on other things. So I said, I said, how you need to get your ass out of here or you're going to jail? in her boyfriend he knew not the you know not the mess with his organized crime activities so he grabs her and backs her puts her back in his Lincoln town car a couple minutes later she bailed out with the they had the original first cell phones big brick ones with the black antenna this is this is on a Saturday night like 1 30 the morning Saturday night early Sunday morning right she comes right there and she has captain C.J. Harper on the phone who was a captain where I work but I wouldn't is I'm not in his chain of he's not my chain of command. Right. She's calling this, and he was married.

And she comes out of her, I got Captain Harper on phone. He doesn't talk to you. I said, I don't get fucking. He had on the phone, man. I said, he's not my chain of command. He has my beeper number.

He can call me tomorrow. I need to run down. You need to get off the scene. And so Ray Valentine, the boyfriend grabs her again, put your back in a town car, and they're trying to burn out. And I'll never forget this like it happened yesterday.

He's driving, and she's on the pastor's side. She leans out to when it looks at me. And she said, I'm going to get you, you some a bit, at me. And she did. She did. She got me, my family destroyed all of us. Well, they take off. So we hook and book everybody, take them down to the substation. And I told that, I told that suspect, I said, hey, you'll call you about four or five hours from the station. You need to go home,

you know. And so we go to a substation, we book him in and whatnot. And I'm doing the paperwork, and Lieutenant Coon just sitting at his table crossing like this. Well, the phone rings. And he picks up the phone. He's like, he said, all right, well, you know, I'll have to take him. care of it hangs up. I don't pay any attention. You're not a real good rapport with him. Great guy. And then a phone rings again about 10 minutes later. And somebody's hollering the phone. He's looking at me going, you know, making goofy faces. He hangs up again. So who the hell is that?

And he goes, that was that crazy-ass woman from the scene. What was she saying? And he said, oh, she's saying that you're down there, ask her she was divorced yet, telling her she had nice legs and all this. Well, all these deputies were there. And this isn't a park lot of nightclub. you know, record drivers. That was never said. Right. If that was said, that would have been brought up in court somewhere, you know,

through the other situation. But I just blow it off. I think nothing of it. Still doing paperwork about an hour later, we all hear screaming, a female screaming in the hallway, by now it's like 3 o'clock in the morning, Sunday morning.

And Lieutenant Coons, Chris Gush, Scott Genovesi, these other deputies, they go out there and, I hear him hollering, you know, they come out and I said,

what the hell is that? Lieutenant Coons said, it was that crazy-ass woman, man. If we would arrest her for PI, this probably wouldn't have happened. I was just going to say, why hasn't somebody just arrested her and put her in a drunk tank? I mean, it was, I don't know. That's the sheriff's part. When I went out there on patrol and the Sheriff's Department, I was told, hey, this is not Houston PD.

At the Sheriff's Department, you're from elected officials. I said, what do you mean by that? They said, well, certain people out here go to jail and certain people don't. And I said, I'll thoroughly agree. You're not a criminal. You don't go to jail. You're a bad guy. You go to jail.

And that caused me some issues out there because I didn't go by that. that nonsense. After she leaves that morning, I worked night shift 10 to 6. I'm home. It's like four and a afternoon. My beeper's going off. We didn't have cell phone. My beeper's going off. And it was an uncommon number, but it was 911 behind it. And whenever we had informants to our beepers, like I'd issue like 571 or whatever. So if I got to call it said like 571, I know it was you. Yeah. But it was his number than 911. I was like, I live about an hour and a half from Houston. And I called him and he said, hey, man, Jason Aguilar's mom was calling making a threat.

She's already tried to pull a gun and he tried to shoot me. She's making threats to have me killed. I said, where are you now? Because I'm in my brother's house. And I said, and he was 19, but he had the mind of a nine-year-old. Right. And I said, I said, you safe for your brother's house. He said, yeah, I said, hey, man, you stay there.

I'll come in early tonight. I said, you're going to be this number about 8 o'clock. And I said, I said, I went in to work early that night. And I called him. I said, what hell's going on, man? And he said, Susan White, the suspect. He said, man, she's calling my family in Austin and Clean. And she's, you know, saying she knows I'm a snitch that in Stitches in Houston don't live long.

Don't you watch TV. The farmers get killed on this. I'm like, are you shitting me, man? I'm sorry. So I call the district attorney's office. And they have DA's on on duty 24-7. No matter what time of day or night. You call and say, hey, I caught this guy in the house.

Is it good? You take burglary charges? Yeah. How do I proceed? Yeah, yeah. And the, yeah, the prosecutor say put my name on whatever, excepting charges. So I call him thoughts of Gene Sprouting Hughes. He was an assistant D.A. at the time.

She said, hey, I'll take charges on felony retaliation. She said, but you need to call the informant Michael Schaefer's mother in Austin because that's who actually talked to Susan, Mike, the suspect. Right. So I call that dude back and I said, hey, what's your mother's number? And he goes, I don't know. I said, where does she live? Well, in Austin, what, do you know the address?

No. Do you know what the name of the apartments are? No. I said, do you know how to get there? I said, it's kind of just days of dumbass. And he said, yeah. You know, so I call an Austin PD dispatch, and the officer actually goes and finds the apartment, wakes up the mom. So she calls me, and I said, hey, this is Deputy McGowan, Harris County, SO.

I said, what's going on with these threats? So she gives me a rundown. And I'd done stuff like this for years. I knew the questions I asked. And I said, do you, I said, her name was Jeannie Jakes. And I said, Ms. Jakes, did you know this Susan White? She goes, I've talked to her on the phone a number of times because my son lived there. And I didn't know at that point that her son had lived there.

Right. With the informant. And she asked her, what is your opinion of Susan Wyn? She goes, I think she's fucking crazy from the few phone calls I've had with her. Right. And I said,

do you think that she has the ability to have him hurt, hurt him or have him hurt or killed? And she said, yeah. And I said, okay, well, that's going to get a warrant for arrest. She said, all right, I'll relieve to hear that, you know. But she denied this all these years. But, and I thought at Houston PD, all the conversations were recorded.

So when the shit hit the fan on this later, I said, pull the recordings. So we don't monitor that stuff here. Oh, you got to be kidding me, man. But anyway, so I go, I do my report, go to the DA's office. And by the time I got down there, it was like 2 o'clock in the morning.

And at midnight, the DA's working intake change shifts. They got down there, it was a assistant DA name Jim Mount. You'll see him all these documentaries and whatever lying his ass off about what happened. So I went in there and I said, hey, I've got this, this situation. He goes, yeah, my relief, Gene Sparling Hughes told me what's up, you know.

So I go over everything, giving the reports, reads the reports. And then we write up the warrant. He does, you know. And then I signed as the affiant. And by now it's like 4 o'clock in a morning on them. This would be on a Monday morning. And I said, I said, well, just call a judge because that judge is on call. I said, we have the warrant signed on the run.

He goes, no, we're not going to, I'm not going to wake up a judge at 4 a.m. for them. I said, look, they're already threatening my informant, man. He's hiding out. We didn't get this done. He said, well, I'm not going to wake up a judge for this. You're the DA, brother. All right, man. So I never touched the warrant. I left it there, right? Big issue. So, but I got off at 6 a.m., which we had take on cars. I'll burn off at 5.30 in the morning. So bump Tommy Moore. My day shift deputy that was coming on to relieve me at 6 a.m. We told him what's going on to run the warrant. He said, I'll go get it. If I wanted to serve this warrant and commit this murder, I wouldn't have left it at the DA's office

and called my relief to go get it and go run it that morning. So I go home like 10 o'clock, I'd be like 10 o'clock on Monday morning. My beeper goes off from the DA's office. So I called and just Tommy Moore. He goes, hey, I'm down here at the judge's office with his prosecutor.

And where I had signed as the affiant on the warrant three times, it had been whited out. And back then they used to actually do that, you know, for whatever reason. And then so he goes, saying, well, man, this DA wants to talk to you. So this female... Who, they had whited out your name?

For what reason? Is it the affiant? I have no idea. Okay. In my second trial, I mean, 10 years later, it got brought up. I always used to actually do that. The judge wouldn't sign it because my name had been whited out. And then Tommy Moore couldn't sign for the warrant or relief deputy. Okay.

Because he didn't witness any of this. He was going to pick him, run it. And so they... So I said, hey, just leave it there. I'll come out and get it. prosecutor gets on the phone. And she was wanting to help and run this fucking warrant. I said, what do you mean?

She said, this situation going on, these automatic weapons, threats, you don't go run the fucking warrant? And I said, hey, man, you need to talk to your coworker, you know, Jim Mount. He wouldn't get the warrant to me. She was, you need get her and run this when you come on duty tonight. All right. So, so DA's office maintained the warrant. So, of course, Jim Mount denies all this to this day.

Did any of that happen? But I went to, I went a little bit earlier that night. went straight to the district attorney's office to pick up the warrant. It was me and there was a young Houston police. I was 27, but he's like 22, young H.P. Houston PD officer and they were getting a warrant sign. And the prosecutor at that time, he was a Mike Anderson, good guy. He wanted to be on the, the district attorney, a judge, as did his wife.

But in all his tabloid trash out there in books and all the documentaries, I was banging on, I need to get this fucking warrant. I got to get this bitch on it. None of that happened. And if Mike Anderson, many years later, I always protected he and his wife. We were like friends, but I knew him. He was a good dude. I didn't drag him into this.

Many years later, in DA's office, trying to get me out, they said, if you should have brought Mike Anderson to the grant, you'll never be undidied over it. That's the way it goes. But when I was blind, blindly loyal to people I shouldn't have into the system. But this HPD officer, after shooting the ship, with him, that DA there, Mike Anderson for a while, we went to Judge Don Schillby's house

at the warrant sign. And we were there like an hour and he was like an old judge and he was showing his gun collection and tells us about his wife had recently died. So we went in all this and this tablet trashed me hollering.

I didn't get this fucking war and I'd go down and kill this bitch. None of it. Absolutely none of it happened. And so I leave there. I won the way to the station. I bumped that asshole sergeant, David Ruggiero.

And I said, I said, I've got the warrant. He was bringing to the station. All right. So I'm in the station. I walk into his office where he's maintained safety and security all times because he wouldn't go out on the street. He's too cowardly. Well, deputies Todd, Todd Morong and Mike Malloy were sitting there. And I walked in and I started yanks the warrant out of my hand looks at and he goes, take Marong, Malloy, he'll run the fucking warrant. And mind you, this guy, he was from Ohio in his thick, nasely, winy, accent, skinny, this guy was something else. Highly despised

by everyone. But he, he, he was. he'd say, take him wrong warrant and run the fucking warrant. I said, you're a supervisor, man, you need to get your ass out here. I said, there's drugs, gangs, automatic weapons, burglaries involved in this, death threats. I'm not going. Take him wrong warning and run the

fucking warrant. He said, what are you a fucking pussy run the fucking warrant? Matter of fact, the book recently written about this telling the truth story, that's the first sentence in the book. What are you some kind of fucking pussy involved? That's the first sentence of the book. Because that's what that started, told me. you know.

I said, look, you're the supervisor. You need to get your ass out here and run this thing. What are your fucking pussy, take more and run it. I said, all right, you need to get some more deputies. Because when I was with the city with Houston PD, you'd always be a sergeant, six or eight of it was throwing a felony warrant, no matter what the felony was. I said, you need to get some more deputies out here.

And once you're some kind of fucking pussy, take one and run and run the fucking warrant. I was like, man. And then another point's made. I hated that sart. He hated me and everybody else. But why would I want to get this asshole sergeant to go witness me commit murder? You know, so, you know, what if he had gone?

They went my big murder scheme, done, right? And so we're wrong with the lawyer and I were walking out. And I didn't even really know these deputies. I don't even been out there a few months. And despite what the media said, we were, we never saw each other off duty, not talking out of prison, you know, 25 years later. But he, um, that we were like buddies or whatever, you know, scheming on this plot. but on the way out and I've run

I don't know how many felony warrants I used to be a jumpout boy and I worked a federal task force and all that I'd run a number of warrants for sure but I stopped

and actually stopped the call this suspect you know which I thought the phone's recorded so I had her number for when I arrested her son Jason Aguilar

her criminal son his whole background was a story but I called twice but I didn't you say the answering machines the phone meter whatever

and that way had the tape or there was two hangups I was going to tell her, hey, just because it's a very nice neighborhood. You know, and I didn't know this, this one was completely insane and, or armed. But I was going to tell her to go get what's called an no arrest bond. You get a bond and then a lawyer. You don't have to spend a day or two in jail. You just post the bond and show for court the next day or whatnot.

She answered the phones. We're walking out. We stop out by the, we call her patrol cars the shop, stopped by the shops. And they said, what the hell's going on, man? So I came a rundown. They said, I'll go run the warrant. So the three of us go over there. We park about a house or two down.

And you said she did answer the phone? No, she did not. Did not. No, she did not. So we had, she never answered it, but the, you know, the. It shows that you should call, somebody called twice, right? And, and, you know, what should answer the phone? Well, there went my big murder scheme again, right?

So we get to the house and we talked part to date, the door down. And it was like one, one 15 in the morning. And Marong went to the front door, Debbie, and with me. and Deputy Malloy went to the back to secure the back door. And in all this stuff, I think that Brana Taylor case, I think that's what started, there's no knock warrant stuff. Right. This is why you don't knock on a door.

This is exactly why you do dynamic entry. It's when you force entry, you know. It's because if you just do dynamic entry, busted on the door, you have a, the suspect doesn't have time to grab a weapon, you know, flush the drugs. hide, flee, you just bunch of, and you'll snatch them up, you know. But the one time I didn't do it and this is what happens.

But so we got there and Deputy Morong bangs on the door. And a couple of bangs, we could, it was dark in the house. It's like 115 in the morning. And there was, she comes to the door, suspect comes to a door, clearly on drugs, which she was on four different drugs at the time of the shooting after the autopsy. But a slurred voice, she could barely understand what she was saying. He kept saying, Ms. Wade didn't open the door of Sheriff's Department. What she had, the suspect had called, just previous that, she'd called 911, 31 nights in a row.

And this was a history with this woman. She would open the door wearing nothing or a thong or whatnot. And that's what led to some other deputies out there knocking this woman off, if you know what I mean, which went up the chain of command, which got to the captain of the division, Harper. It was also knocking her off. And he'd been married 20-something years. he goes on and starts knocking off this woman. The guy, wrong and long, we don't know nothing about this.

I just went out there. And they worked in a whole different part of that division, the district that were in. So they never held, handled that the north end of that division, a district, I should say. But, and we knew that she had had, she'd been making all these calls. Somehow we picked up on that and saying every night she'd call somebody broke in my house. Somebody's coming here to rob me, you know, just got deputies out there. And so, uh, the Lord, um, deputy. Marong told her, he said, hey, we had some property we recovered. It was stolen, open the

doors so we can give it to you. I'm not open the door. Who's out there? You know, and she could say, this is the sheriff's department. She didn't, and when she said, this is Deputy Marlon, she said, you need to step out. Morong told the suspect, you know, she heard my name. She starts hollering, get that. She never said Kent. Well, that's my middle name. I've always going on my middle name. She would have known me. She would have said, you know, Kent, get Deputy McGowan off my property. He thinks he owns the world. And wrong did look in the bedroom windows. We're seeing somebody's house.

He goes, she's hollering. You don't look in ladies' windows at people. When I use windows at night, we're looking at Charlie. This woman's fucking nut, man. And so this one for more than 15 minutes. You know, if we just kicked in the door, you know, we're going to stash her up. This suspect, as we get through the story, she escalated this every step of the way. Every step of the way, she could have put a halt to the situation.

Right. Every step of the way, she kept escalating, escalating and escalating. and escalating, which culminated in her death, me going to prison for 20 years. But finally, I told him wrong. I said, hey, this is kicked the door, man. He was all right. I said, hey, I'm going to back up and call to Sergeant for Gero again. It wasn't policy or, you know, then.

You didn't need a supervisor's permission to kick a door. You had a warrant. So I walked over to, you know, walked out the sidewalk, water to the driveway. I bumped his sergeant on the back channels. It only goes like a couple of miles. It's not monitored by the dispatchers. I bumped that sardin. I said, hey, man, we've been out here 15 minutes.

What do you want us to do? I'm going to force the door. He goes, it's a fucking felony warning. It kicked the fucking door. I said, man, you need to come out here. Then he said, he goes, I've been monitoring the radio. I know what's going on. I said, you didn't get your ass out of here.

You know, he's sitting in the safety and comfort of his air-conditioned office, which he never left except to go eat breakfast. He wouldn't come out there again. You know, and if he would have said, well, hang on them on the way. Well, they're on a murder plot again, right? And so I said, whatever, dude. So I went over and told him wrong. I was a pretty good-sized guy.

Marong was way bigger than me. I told Todd, I said, hey, Regeril said he kicked the door and he was all right. And so it was a big, very expensive looking double door, we cut glass, whatever. And I think, oddly enough, the doors opened outward, where we call it. It's going to be hard to kick him in. Yeah, Marong, he's a big old dude, man. He had like twice in, it wasn't coming down. I said, hey, there's no sense in tearing up this door for the county to pay.

I said, maintain security here. I won't go around back with Malloy. I'll walk around the house and Moloid's at the back door. I said, hey, Marong, I mean, Sir Ruggiero said to kick the door. And he goes, all right. So still we knocked on the back door for two or three minutes. And while we're knocking the back door, Marong sees a suspect cruising through the house toward us. So he's trying to tell us on the radio, we're on different radio channels because I was on the back channel.

So anyway, Mron comes around the corner of the house, right when Molloy starts to kick the door. Mind you, when Mourin is at the front door, if Mouin would have to kick those doors, even the first one, man, you would want to shoot in a suspect, you know, then my murder plot would have been gone again, you know. I would have to be the utmost mastermind of crime for this to work out. Right. And so, at the back door, she's burning toward us, but we don't know it. So, Marongs come around to tell us. So I never know Marlon's behind me at this point.

So I told Malloy, Mike Malloy, and to this day, these guys' stories have never wavered to this day, never, you know. And we weren't like friends. They haven't been, you know, for 34 years backing me up because we're, you know, buddies or whatever. Right. Nothing. I've never seen them off duty until I got out of prison. So I told him, Maloy, I said, hey, he's kicked the door, man. So Malloy kicked him in.

And Malloy is, he's like 6'3. He's also quite bigger. Big guy. Yeah. So Malloy leaned back and bam, he kicked the door and nothing. I said, hit it again. And this is like, by now it's like 115, 120 morning. So he, my kids at the second time, I heard the door frame crack.

The alarm was going on. Still to this day, man, it's sound about how. the sound of a house alarm, just trigger if you want. But the doorframe cracked and he turned around and I said, hey, mule kick it, you know. So he turned around, wham, he turns it backward and bam, he bams it. The door flies in. Molloy goes in first, right? And I don't know Morrow's behind me.

But right when Molloy goes in to a utility room, the house is trashed. Doesn't even back at the second. The suspect that I shot insane history, but she or her, she married an older. her husband was i think 56 at the time i think she was 43 i was 27 and she uh her husband moved out for a teenage girl that he'd knocked up and had a kid with and he was 56 she destroyed the house all kind of craziness her we'll get to her history a bit but the house was destroyed on the inside when we break in we had our flashlights of course our weapons out always in a felony warrant uh lloy tripped over the garbage and shit all stacked up in the utility room well he tripped and

fell well what's that put me i'm number two in the stick going in right so i'm going to cover my guy right you know just tactically sound the training i jumped over him to protect him if mike mloy wouldn't have fallen he would have been the first one and he would have shot the suspect right you know i'll tell you if i if i if i devise this plan i'm pretty smart dude now you know but mloy hits the ground i go over him this point i don't know wrongs behind me So directly the utility room was a breakfast area, a kitchen, formal dining. Then off to the right was a very large living room area. And there was a door at the opposite side of the wall, which was the door going into the master suite.

And if you went to the left, it was like the sleeping area. And to the right was the dressing area in the restroom, shower and whatnot. I see the suspect crossing, not going through the door, crossing, cross the door, moving from right to left quickly. I saw something in her hand. Well, I knew she'd been on the old mobile phones you had in your house with a pull-out antenna. Right. It's all just happened a matter of very few seconds.

In my mind, it's just, you know, it's crazy. I's got the phone, you know. And also at this point, I know she's been on the phone with 911 and with the sheriff's department. She's calling one to talk to my lieutenant in all this nonsense. They keep telling her, hey, you know, lieutenant, he's not at work, you know, at this time. And so I know the 911 and the SO, the sheriff's office dispatchers on the phone. So at this point, I know it's all being recorded, you know, so I'm going to commit a murder watch being recorded by the police.

You know, I'm a dumb ass or a mastermind criminal, you know. So at this point, I'll see across the suspect, cross the doorway. So, of course, we beeline right toward her. The alarm's going off in the house. It's dark, flashlights that's moving about. You know, we're hauling the sheriff's office, filling in a warrant, come out when we can see your hands. And then there's also a lot of tabloid, trash, documentary, nonsense about how we beelined right to her bedroom,

gun her down. Why didn't we search the rest of the house? I mean, even that asshole DA, Jim Mount made an issue with this. If I go, I don't care if I'm going there for a traffic ticket or capital murder. If I see the suspect, I'm not going to leave them there and go search to rest of the house. Right. Grab a weapon. You know what happened. And I'll see when she was moving from right to left, that's where she went and got her the handgun out of the closet that she had feloniously bought it at a pawn shop because she was a convicted felon, drug addict, alcoholic, her entire life. And her own son testified she bought the gun to murder her.

The quote, blow her on his fucking head off. That was her husband who left her. She bought the gun to shoot him. But anyway, I see the suspect crossing white to less. We'd beeline because there's the suspect. I'm not going to search the house for what, the suspect. Right. It's because it's always been a big issue.

Oh, man, why did you just run right to her in a bedroom? That's where she was. That's what we saw the suspect. So I'm the first one to the door, the bedroom door. You know, and you don't go running around a corner. So I have my flash on a streamlight my left hand. I have my Glock in my right. I leaned in the door at this point I see the suspect with a weapon clearly in her right hand.

I see this like this happened yesterday. And she had the weapon in her right hand pointed at me, the right elbow like on the right hip. And I tell her, drop the gun, drop the gun. And when I told her the second time, she brought the gun up at eye level. and now I'm in the doorway and she's like barricaded in the back the left side corner of the room and you pull the gun right of my face

there's a little saying you train like you fight like you train and I'm in this big house and there's a blonde-headed blue-eyed lady you know right was just it was they caught me off guard you know and then I tell her she comes like points the gun and her the weapon was index meaning her finger wasn't on the trigger at this point when she pulls it up I see her put her finger to move her finger into the trigger.

At this point, a hauler at her header, I said, I said, drop the gun, I'm going to shoot you. You know, I see her put her finger on the trigger and start to pull the trigger. Of course, I'll fire first, you know. And what, I remember that like it just happened, man. What, went through my mind, those two or three seconds, the shoes going to gun me down and take her out of wrong and more. You know, we had wives and kids and all this at this point.

And that's what fleshed in my head because they couldn't see her. Because I went to the entry of the bedroom, the door, swung from right to left right but it didn't open all the way because behind it was a a small dresser you will and then on top it was a tv then the old converter cable converter boxes they used to have and uh you're leaning in the door and they're behind you in the hallway right no they're literally pushing against me oh okay well i don't know wrongs behind me i just know mike maloy is and then uh she didn't drop so fired and she's pointing right at me in round one struck the right cuff and then hit center mass and it was pretty much an immediate fatality round but I was

I remember like I remember my Glock being with a slide back in the muzzle blast and two spent casings in the air like a Polaroid picture when the first round struck her she was as somewhat a very slight angle it knocked her to her left and bullet two following bullet one struck the right arm went through the arm out and into the chest cavity but It was a non-fatal wound. And then round three, when I was backing up, which they made a big deal. Do you have no duty to retreat? In Texas, nobody does, especially police officers.

But round three, I shot and it went through the, on the Friday round, moving back. And it literally went through the cable converter box, the corner of it. And it ricocheted a slight angle as a suspect. It didn't hit her. Yeah. There was a big issue with that round, too. big issue with that round because she literally fell into the

path of the bullet as she was going down and struck and struck right here and went across through here and then you know that side and she fell on the bed and there's another big issue at this point you know we'd have gone on that she didn't have a gun there goes on a murder plot again right

right I don't know she had a gun in there and then but when she landed on her left side but face down and her right knee was over her left knee, which is over, and her hand was laying underneath her right, her right hand was laying under her right knee with a gun underneath her hand. What it was, out of the rounds, right?

And look at her, I know Malloy's there, you know, around my shoulder. But I tell him the Loy, I said, I looked at him a boy, and I said, you heard me, man, I fucking told her, you know, like that. Well, a trial was like this, that we were like wink, wink, wink, nod, and I got me right. You heard me tell her three times, right? Right. It was nothing like that.

man. I was, the emotion that hit me was anger. I mean, instantaneously, I was pissed. I was put in that position, you know? And I just looked at him, and when I was saying that, which is like, maybe a second and a half, two seconds, that's first of all the same wrong. He runs underneath

me. He jumps on the suspect landed on a waterbed. He jumped on the waterbed and rolled her over and he said, he was a, I think she's, not the words you use, but he said, I think she's deceased. So I was like, fuck, man. So I back up, I get on the rate.

When I run up, the gun's still under her hand. I reach on my left pinky under the trigger guard. And I pitched on the floor, right? So I saw her at a gunpoint. It was pointing straight at me. And that's when he's on top of her. And he looked at her and he said, you know, not the word, but he said, I think she's deceased. But sweet back up.

And I immediately get on radio. I was in 41.76. I said, 4176 shots fired. I said, all deputies are okay and secured. Suspics down, wrote EMS supervisor in the package. package being internal affairs homicide d a d a defense and so wrong and mloy i sat at the at the bedroom door the shooting happened in the bedroom hall i sat at the bedroom door morongham lloy they go upstairs a searcherous house make sure there's nobody else there right and her son who was not he was

supposed to be in jail still we still know how he was out he was upstairs on 911 you know he've been smoking dope and hey man you know shots fired in the house but they uh i remember that morong loy him down, they handcuffed him. He always handcuffed everybody. And they bring this, he was 16 at the time. He brings Jason Aguilar, Susan White, the suspect son, brings him down. I'm in that

little bastard looking at me and smirking. And all these other documentaries and whatever, they're saying that he looked at me and all smirking, and Malloy and our laugh and all that. No, that happened. He was smirking at me. So I could put him in the backseat patrol car.

And finally, Rojero, the Cowardy sergeant decides to remove himself from the security and safety of his office and his chair at his desk to actually make the scene. It was like maybe five minutes out. He's like the third unit there. And so he gets me and he's like in a panic. He doesn't know what the hell to do as with every scene involving him. So he puts me in his shop and he gets in his trunk, gets a legal patent of pen.

So I used to write down everything to happen. I don't know a fucking thing down, man, you know. You don't do that. And already the union had been contacted. My lawyer was en route, right? Well, lawyer gets there and then homicide, Chuck Lightner, to this day, this guy backs me up. And we'll get to what he's done recently also for me. But each district had a homicide detective on call, you know, 24-7.

So Chuck shows up out there, and the DA's office gets there. It's Don Smith, the chief of the – back then they called it the public integrity unit. But they're like the Civil Rights Division. Don Smith, the chief, Ed Porter, prosecutor, and Steve Clappert on his third day there. Steve Clappert was a retired HBD homicide, a clown his entire career. And I knew Don Smith was, because he taught in the Academy,

Silver Wight or something. I know these other people are. So my lawyer gets there, Clint Greenwood, who was assassinated on my birthday in 2017. Or something nut. But Clint gets there, and I'd never met Clint before. And so he gets in a patrol car with me. He goes, hey, what happened, man?

So he can run down, he goes, John's cool. He goes, we're going to do a walk through and say, all right. How's he or lawyer because of the union? Okay. Yeah, he's union lawyer. And Clint, so with the DA's office and in internal affairs, and I'll be in the homicide detective there. Of course, Lieutenant Coons made the scene.

And oddly, they told Lieutenant Coons he couldn't go in the house. This day, I'll know why they wouldn't let him go in. But it was Roger already going there. So we go in. walk through. I'll standing here. You know, boy, I'm wrong with there. That's just a standard procedure, you know. And

so we're standing at the bedroom door and other guys are looking in, looking around, and I'll say, Clint Green was my attorney's on my left side. I'm sitting right side. Right by the door was a big speaker like our mom's the dad used to have for the stereos back then day. There's a legal pad

laying there, you know, handwriting on there, which we now would copy. And Clint said, don't be always put read what's on there. So I glanced down. and it was a letter written by Susan White, the suspect I just shot, obviously within the 48 hours from when I arrested her son until the shooting dropped. It was a letter to the sheriff. You know, some of the fact I'm writing you again about the, you know,

your bullied deputies out here and blah, blah, blah, and she had one deputy in particular, and there was literally a line drawn she drew. She even know my name at that point to put it in, to put it in there, you know. And then also on the bed with the shooting, you know, in the red room what happened, when she found the bed, there was a record slug. that I'd filled out the 48 hours earlier when I was told her idiot kid's son. And she had written on there deputy J.K. McGowan in her handwriting, unit number, unit number 4176.

Why would you have to, if she knew me, why don't you write that down? She wouldn't know who I was, right? But anyway, we did the walkthrough, man. Everything was cool, I guess. And went back to the substation, Chuck Lightner, the homicide detective, my lawyer. and it was a lady there. I think she was like the captain secretary, whatever was typing. And I gave my statement in that morning.

And I got home, but I lived about an hour and a half from there. I got home about 10 o'clock in a morning. And it was on the news at the time. But the early morning news, like 6 a.m. said, and there's lawyers already involved. And it was saying that Marong and Lloyd and I were over there drinking on duty and making basically homemade porn with his chicken and all this. We're all going, what?

My beepers going off, man, all my police buddies, 9-1. I get home, everybody's calling. What the hell, man? I said, I have no idea with that. I drove home. I got home about 10 o'clock that morning. And my day's off the time of Monday and Tuesday. So this was Tuesday morning.

Got home, my family's all, you know, what happened, you know. And so I gave him a quick rundown, you know, and then I had that Tuesday off. That'd go back to work Wednesday night. And it's not, it, I got in a one day off. for this. I mean, the Houston PD, they had their own, you know, like every agency does now, psychological services. I never took a, never had a day off. And I'm about to work Wednesday night on my regular 10 to 6 shift. And about a week into it, after the shooting, man, I called Sergeant Rizero. I said, hey, man, I'm going to take, I'm going to take a day off. And again,

what do you some kind of fucking policy? You need to come into work. I don't think you're a police. I was going to hung up on that dude. You want to ask, I did not get a day off. And it was probably three weeks, two or three weeks after the shooting, the Patrol Bureau major that made some business with and his other guys that worked there. We're having dinner somewhere talking about business. And the major said, well, how did you go with the psychological services? I said, I never went. He goes, what do you mean he didn't go?

I said, y'all didn't even have a psychological service. He goes, nobody told you to go? And I said, no. You know, as I told him, that's your girlfriend, said, a freaking day off. or my own pocket, you know. He denied it. So he wrote the address down and said, you need to be here at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning.

I'm going to make some calls. So I went in and it was a contracted, I think he's a psychiatrist. He's actually still alive, this guy. We reached out to him. But I went in there and I talked to him for like 20, 30 minutes. I did that MNPI, a very extensive,

several hundreds, hundreds of questions, two different tests. They graded to make sure what your mental state is. And that took several hours. I did that and then he graded it or whatever, rated me. He called me in. The doctor said, he was, okay, you're just, you're flatlined all the way, man.

I'm going to go ahead and clear to go back to work. And I said, well, I appreciate that. I've been at work. What do you mean you've been at work? You've been working since the shooting? I said, yeah, was there 48 hours, less than 48 hours? I was back on the street. He said, what about Marlon and the guys are with you?

I said, they've never come to talk to you, have they? And he said, no. I said, they never had a day off. They wouldn't give us a day off. else for you know that's a big issue these days you know you get a shooting but um yeah that's basically what happened at the actual shooting scene and then i went back to work shooting happening on august 25th in 1992 and then the grand jury came up and he's a grand jury on police shooting it's just sop whenever you injure kills somebody line of duty grand jury

always convenes. He takes a few hours. No big deal. Grand jury's coming up. But let me back up just a split second here. It's a shooting scene. They always take the officer's weapon. Right.

And they took my Glock. And they give you a, let's give you the same or similar weapon to carry while they do their, just their ballistics and forensics on it. They give me a nine-mill, an old-ass nine-millimeter bretta, only had two bullets in it

and there are full metal jacket bullets, which we weren't even allowed to carry. You couldn't carry full metal jacket bullets. No extra magazine, nothing, you know. So I gave me this. I called Lieutenant Coons. I say, I'm going to carry this raggedy. I don't tell them where the gun came from.

Two full metal jackets. So I was where my other gun, my other gun belt, a 45. But three nights after the shooting, I get called in by CSI, which down there they called CSU Crime Union. CSU called me down. You say, hey, we'll get your gun. So I went in there. And this was Deputy Reinhart, who were crimes unit.

Reinhardt made, the night of the shooting, he made the scene to do his crime scene investigation, measurements, photographs, he takes no measurements, no photographs, no video. He left one of the bullets, so bullets struck across the face, went through the face, through the punch through the headboard, and it was in between the brick and the sheetrock in the house. He didn't even get it. And I didn't know for a year later when I saw the Autossey pictures, what happened to the face. and she was wearing glasses. I didn't even know she wore in glasses

because time of the shooting, all you used, you do tunnel vision. All of us all was the gun in her hand. It's all saw. And then he did nothing. He definitely nothing. So they don't even secure the house.

Like I said, the shooting happened at approximately 1.30 in the morning. And then after everybody's there, and there's deputies walking around, you know, everybody's just milling about the scene. You know, I'm like, what the hell, you know?

And then, When they leave, I go to the station, when everybody leaves, Reinhardt, the crime scene investigator leaves, CSU. And they leave the house open. The shooting scene completely open and unsecured. And then when Ryanhart, I guess he got off at 6 a.m. 2, the day shift crime scene sergeant, another deputy said, didn't the deputy fire three rounds? Why was there only three, two bullets here?

I don't know. The other one's still there. So they go back to the house. And this is many hours after the shooting. started skiller in a female deputy, crime scene investigator, knew what they were doing. They went back to the house,

and there was neighbors in there. People walked around the house. And after we get the crimes during the discovery for the first trial, there's crime scene photos that somebody had taken, and there's a pair of, some guy that they're wearing blue jeans and old raggedy tennis shoes.

Like, who the hell's this? It was a neighbor. Homicide, internal affairs around there. This neighbor just is walking around there. There's, you know, blood, you know, bullet casings and evidence. The neighbors walk around seeing what's going on. Completely mishandled, at least. But when Sergeant Skiller and the other female deputy from crime scene

when the next morning, they drained the waterbed and moved it. And they cut a two foot by two foot section out of the wall to get the bullet. To get the bullet. And this plays into a very important part. And then the day after the shooting, the suspect I shot her 56-year-old husband and a 17-year-old girlfriend and their baby move into the house the morning after the shooting. They move in there.

So the neighbors made a big issue. The neighbors are calling the sheriff's part. This is, you know, he's out here with this kid and her baby. The sheriff's dog was not illegal. It made me an household or nothing they could do. So the shooting was on Tuesday. And that following week in the neighborhood literally had a, this is a neighborhood with doctors, lawyers, engineers,

professional people. They literally had a block party to celebrate that woman her son getting out of that neighborhood. Because they had terrorized the neighborhood for 10 years. Burted houses, the kid, the Jason Aguilar, his son. He tried down the burden down the next door neighbor's house because they told him don't smoke pot at their pooling or not there.

They had terrorized that neighborhood for all his years. And the morning of the shooting, Lieutenant Coons and the captain I had out there, Captain Smith, he's a good guy. They brought Jason Aguilar and told him and mother had been shot. He was like, okay, you know. first thing he does, some lady coming got him. You know, first thing he does, he calls him to informant and say, hey, do you still have a key to the house?

I'm going to get my mom's jewelry so I can go sell it. It's about six hours after his mom get shot, right? This kid's a turd. He's been in and out of prison his entire life. Actually, both trials, they brought him in shackled because he was in Angol in Louisiana for robbery, burglary, drugs, all kind of stuff. We didn't even try to contact him as a witness when FBI got involved in stuff a few years ago, in the writer of the book. But we looked at his Facebook page.

He's kind of such an idiot. They said there's no, we didn't talk to this guy. Right. He's beyond even speaking to. But they, yeah, and then we start finding out that my informant, Michael Schaefer, had lived there. And that's how Susan White contacted my informant's family. When they used to have long distance bills, after her son gets arrested, she's all pissed off at home, high on drugs. She starts going through these phone.

bills and calling numbers she didn't recognize because Michael Schaefer, my informant, who was best friends with her son, have been living there. We didn't know that at the point, of course. And this is a very important aspect of this. My informant Michael Schaefer, his mother, his aunt lives in Colleen, Texas, is north of Austin. And his mother, Jeannie Jake, lived in Austin. Susan White made the original phone calls to the aunt in Colleen, Jenny Jakes. And I had never spoken to that Jeannie Jakes to the day. and then she called the mother and the mother in Austin

and those two women never spoke after this from what we understand the the DA's office they withheld the aunt and Colleen from us for about 15 or 18 years to my writ lawyer

got hold of that witness if they had brought her to the grand jury I'd never been indicted because she would have said yes Susan White made these threat but

as a story rolls the guy called in the grand jury, and I was there for four hours and 45 minutes. And they asked me all kind of crazy shit, you know. They're trying to, they subpoenaed in my wife going in there. And she said, I don't know nothing about this. They started asking us. She knew she didn't have to testify against me.

Right. And then she said, I don't know anything about this, you know. And she was only 27, too. You know, at that point, we had three kids in, little kids. Well, prosecutors said, all right, we're going to do, we're going to take you, take you to a judge. We're going to put you in jail for a case. attempt to grand jury. You have to talk, you know.

She's like, I don't know anything about this. And, man, I had girlfriends, friends of mine, call them, whatever. People had nothing to do with it. I did nothing wrong. So there's Lysics, forensics, and all. It all added in all. And then I get that was, that was, it went on for six weeks, the grand jury. It just takes four or five hours. Six weeks, man.

All kind of crazy people getting called in. And then, finally, I go in and test five. And it's a very, they gave me this little, a little chrome raven 25 automatic with pink grips on it. They're trying to get the jury to think that's, the grand jury think that's the gunship. I'm in uniform. I have the pictures of all.

They were illegally, photographs are illegally leaked out of the grand jury we have. But I was like, that's not the gun sheet pulled, man. What is he assimilar? No, it's not. A little pink grip looks like a toy, you know? Right.

And so they're getting me to position the prosecutor, how the suspect was and whatnot. And at the end of this, they said, does anybody, any grand jurors have any questions for Deputy McGowan And this old white guy I sit on the end says, well, I have a question. I have a couple questions. Here we go.

And he said, why don't you shoot the gun out of her hand? I said, why do you watch stupid movies? I said, that's one, that's not even legal to do technically. Right. It's your only point of gun at me. I try to shoot. A, if I miss, I'm going to hit him in the chest team. Right.

B, I could get the weapon. If they weren't going to fire, it could have fired and shot me. I said, that's ridiculous. Then he said, he said, why do you fall back and call SWAT? I said, I was basically the SWAT team out there. I said, after the sheriff's part, we don't have a SWAT. We don't have vice. Nothing.

It's just a handful of those patrol guys out there in the county. And then it was utter insanity. And then they, it's on August 28th, I got a call from the major, Major Weidemar, Patrol Bureau major that I was in business with. I was in my house my day off. And he said, he's kind of whispering. He said, hey, can you hear me? I was like, yes, sir?

And he said, He said, hey, you need to come down to Internal Affairs. I said, all right. They whispered and inquired. And I said, and he goes, you bring a lawyer. All right. And so I called Bob Thomas, retired Houston PD sergeant, one of my attorneys. He said, hey, they're probably going to give you a day or two off, you know, fishing days.

Don't worry about it. And I said, well, all right, you know, so I drive all the way down to pick up Bob. And then we go to, we go to Internal Affairs. I never forget this man. I walk in there at the IED, Internal Affairs Division captain desk was seeing the Patrol Bureau major, my major. And then there's a homicide captain and internal affairs captain, some big heavyset, old deputy I've never seen before since our detected. And a major told me to sit down. I said, I'm like, Lord's standing behind me.

He goes, man, I don't know how you tell you this. I said, and he said, they dropped sealed an indictment on you today. And I was like, and then Phil Bob. I would clinched up my lawyer, clenched on, you know, my shoulders. And he said, or said for what? And he said for murder. And I literally felt like I got slammed in the chest of a baseball bat. Because, you know, I'd had no problems in law enforcement, military, life-saving medal,

chief of police accommodations, you know, civilian accommodations. And I didn't know what to say. I mean, I just, I literally felt like I got slapped in the, you know, banging across the chest of the baseball bat. And Bob Thomas goes, you're not handcuffing him. You know, so they all start hollering them. And because they knew what was going on. That was being set up.

Well, that old detective I've never seen before since. He was, let me tell you something, Nephtam Gowan. He said, I've been to 46 years. 42 years I'll spend homicide and internal affairs. Thousands of shootings, 100 of police shootings. He said, this is the cleanest fucking shoot I've ever seen. He said, you had a warrant, a lawful warrant signed by a judge. You had two deputies that were there with you didn't even know.

The gun in the suspect's hand. We found the boss she illegally bought it. And her own son gave us a statement that she was going to blow Ron's fucking head off her, you know. He was, what scares me is? He said, this could be me or any of the 8,500 officers in this county sitting where you're sitting right now. So that wasn't much consolation. I was like, so I was like, what the fuck, man? And so we go out, walking down the hallway, there stands John Denham's, homicide lieutenant.

We started using what, he's at fault for all of this, smirking at me. And then I go down to the, we get a bunch of cool cars, just plain clothes cars. There's a few miles to the headquarters from the Detective Bureau. So it went downtown and they didn't put me in jail or anything of course. I went to the ID division, captain's office, and he's an old guy never seen before sitting there. And I'm sitting there like, what now? And he said, they're going to bring in the fingerprint and all that before he's all right.

He says, let me tell you something, me go. And he said, you and I made history. I said, what do you mean? He said, we're the only two, in a state of Texas, we're the only two police officers ever been, you know, indicted on a line of shooting. I said, well, how it worked out for you? You know, and he said, well, I've been here 36 years.

We're talking to do it. It'll work out, man. And I was the first, I was the first police officer in this country to get indicted, convicted, and sent to prison, a line of duty shooting. This, you know, first one ever. Now it happens quite often, apparently. But that set off another chain of events.

And then I've been asked, and then after that, I went home. You know, and I never set foot in jail then. But I always get asked, you know, you know, how did you, why does it happen? Because of John Dental. John Dennon was a big, slovenly, obese, loudmouth sergeant from Ohio. And he, uh, he's an olden of these guys. And he was friends with David Dajaro, my cowardly sard and their buddies. And they're also from Ohio.

He is, both of them were. Not to everything it's Ohio, but these guys are just Ohio ones. But I walked out in that asshole smirk, man. And then when John Ninhome was a sergeant when I was an instructor, Deputy Ron Ackerman and I were instructor. There's about 12 of us. I think they're instructors. And this dead home bullied everybody.

I mean, mentally and physical, especially the rookies that come in. He'd talk shit to him and degrade them, whatever. And Akerma and our only ones should stand up to him, you know, at all. In Aker, Ackermine, we'd have been another police agency before we went there. And we've bumped heads this dude for like a year and a half. And I caught him tampering on my payroll in Ackerman's one time. I should have arrested him. This would never happen.

But John Denholm was involved in this very correct click run by another major, not Weidemeyer. And two days after my shooting, this major gets, promotes Denholm to lieutenant and puts him in charge of homicide. But he had no experience in homicide. Even an admin sergeant, no payroll on overtime and shit. That's all he did. But mind you also, at this time, when I got indicted, it was October 28th to 92, it was the election year. At this point, Johnny Holmes was the DA, and Johnny Cleveland was the sheriff, and they despise each other.

And there was election time. They're trying to get each other kicked out of office. Here I am with the sheriff's department. I get in the shooting. Here's this DA, he was trying to get his buddy to be the next sheriff. So I just got tank, all that got thrown in the mix. That is your guess. I had tingle upon on that political.

nonsense. But back to Denholm, that dude, he had personal issues with Akron and me because we stood up to him all the time. And then jump ahead. What I'm dealing with Texas Rangers many years later, which we'll get to, I'm telling the Rangers about this Denholm. And I'm like, wait a minute, you and Deputy Akerman or the only ones who stand up this loudmouth bully Denham, yeah. They said, you and Akerman, why aren't going to prison? And Denholm was a lead investigator on both y'all's cases and Val Senna Cells that, danger. He said, this is not raised red flags for anybody. At that point, it had been 25 years. I said, Val, I've been honest for 25 years. Nobody's listening. And he said, what did

dental, what did he testify against at your trial? He said, he never testified in my trial, either one of them. And he's saying, well, I said, he said, why not? I said, because it would come out the animosity. This guy had toward me personally. He said, well, who from homicide testified against you nobody else? I was clear by homicide. He was, who from the internal affairs testified against nobody. I was clear by internal affairs. Man, he said, well, how in the hell did you get convicted?

The central prison, I said, man, piss poor lawyer. Piss poor lawyer and you're dealing a corrupt system out there. He couldn't believe it, man. But yeah, that Deputy Ackerman, he did 17 years. My partner did on a assault that he did not do. From what I talked to people involved in that,

the witness even said, I mean, the victim, if you will, said it was completely consensual, you know. But when I got, well, I got indicted, that really started flaring up stuff, man. Because Ed Porter, this prosecutor and Clapper and Denholm, after being the DA investigator, they, my wife and I, man, we had our, the suspect of a shot was from Louisiana. And we found dead fish in, dead fish in our mailbox, dead shrimp, I guess for some obviously connection there, our crawfish, I should say, in the mailbox.

Tires on vehicles caught, cut, brake lines cut. got the house was shot up. It was one thing after another. We'd be at a restaurant eating. They'd be sitting on the parking lot. Hey, you'll wave in us and stuff. It was this constant ridiculousness.

But when we, after I got indicted. Did you say, did you get a lawyer? Oh, yeah. Well, at this point,

I have my union lawyers. Yeah, but they're going to drop. They're going to drop you, right? No, no, they stayed on.

Brian, and Clinton Greenwood. Yeah, well, my family paid them. The union paid, I think, $5,000.

My family paid them, right. And they were good guys, man. And like I said, Clint got assassinated on April 3rd, 2017. But Clint and Brian, Clint Green would actually work for the public integrity unit they called it then. The Civil Rights Division was going after me. And Brian was also worked to the DA as a white-collar's crimes prosecutor. Well, they were just going along. You know, everything was cool. Man, they were just believing what they were being told. You know, they were just outgunned and misled. You know, these dudes just sent me up. But going into this, it just started craziness. And the shooting was October 25th. I mean, it was August 25th, 92, got indicted October 2892. Went to my first trial in February of 94.

And I had a great judge, Adiazios, World War II veteran POW. He said the whole time, there's no way I'm sending you to prison. The law let me keep you out. He knew what was going on. Right. And so we go into trial. and they, let me back up real quick

on the, how far the system is in Houston in Texas, the grand juries are picked by judges. So you have these old judges and they pick all their buddies

to be on the grand juries. Right. You know, back then, all your grand jurors are old, wealthy, white guys and old wealthy white ladies,

you know, and so you're going to get indicted. I mean, they're basically, they're getting $30 a day or whatever is. They're retired. They're nothing to do.

So their job is in their district. Bam, man, man, But we go to the first trial and it was a joke. It was an absolute joke. And I testified in my first trial. And we had one.

There was an old cowboy in my trial. I remember he would always chew it on a toothpick. He's leaning back one day. Sound asleep, sucks a toothpick down. They'd have to rescue that out of his throat. And then my second trial was the lawyer. But they were when Steve, Deputy Reinhart, the crime scene investigator took the stand.

I testified, then Ryan Hart testified. And because the suspect's gun, the fingerprints been wiped off, it had been handled by many people. That's the whole crazy story. But after Reinhardt testified, Steve Clapper, the de-investigator, testifies. Well, he's up there saying that, which is true, the only thing is said true, five days after the shooting, Ed Porter, the head prosecutor, and Don Smith, the division chief, Steve Clapper, the de-invigor, worked for them, and Lieutenant John Denham.

home. They all went up at that house five days after the shooting, which we have a copy of the video now. And they, uh, the suspect's husband, his girl for the baby, they've lived there for five days. The furniture's been moved around. The waterbed is at least once been drained and moved by the Crimson guys the day after the shooting. Well, they go in there and they do their infamous, we call it the string theory, if you will. They're stretching strings like they did back in the 70s, 60s where I supposedly, where I should have been standing and the bulletings. bullet holes going through here and there. They actually had lasers back then if they could have done that with.

And then so Clapper's up there on the stand. And Reinhardt just testified, you know, about the bullet hole and then I'm going to go back and cut it out. So my lawyers, the prosecutor's questioning the crime scene division guy, Deputy Reinhardt, about that. And he testified in that two foot by two foot section of sheet rock that was cut out the day after the shooting. it's laying right on the prosecutor's table. Well, they bring their own investigator, Steve Clapper, it takes a stand. And he's testing out going back there five days later.

And he said, yeah, well, the angle shot McGowan had to be standing. Because their story, the prosecutor story was that I shot her in the face first. And then I went up and shot her through the arm, which makes absolutely no sense. And I stood over for a coup de Groh around through the chest of killer. In front of the two deputies that I didn't even know. but there was no gunshot residue, not on the suspect, you know, no stempling from why the servant shot her, no gunshot residue or clothing or her. There's no gunshot residue at the foot of the bed.

So I had to be, when I fired a shot, it had to be at least 11 feet from the suspect. And the DA said are telling jury, oh, I stood over and shot through the chest to kill her, but she's begging for help. But she didn't make sense, you know. But when Clapper was up there committing egregious aggravated perjury, one of the things he said, head is, yeah, the bullet hole through the headboard, and then it went through the angle into the bullet hole in the wall, that's how they determined where I'm standing. So my lawyer, Clint Greenwood, gets up there and said, well, wait a minute, you went in there, how did you determine the hole,

the headboard, how it coordinates the bullet hole in the wall to get the angle? He said, I pulled my pen out of my pocket and stuck it through the bed, the hole in the headboard in the wall. My lawyer's going, well, you use your pen. It was, oh, actually, I had a wooden dowel in my pocket. Does you carry a wooden dowel around in your pocket for such things? Oh, yeah. And mind you, there's a two foot by two foot section on the wall. So everybody's looking at each other like knowing this guy's lying. So my lawyer asked,

he said, well, did you look behind the wall, behind the headboard? And he goes, yeah. He said, it was a room under construction? No. Was it a, was any wall there? And he goes, how big it was a hole? And he was all the size of a large caliber handgun. Well, yeah, it was a two foot by two foot square.

So as you know, you could put it through there and wiggle your pin or wouldn't down the way he wanted. But it's good. heading a story, I got convicted on that. They gave me 15 years. And in Texas, they have a guilt or they have two-part trial. This is on the first trial. In 94, yeah. And so, my honestly short, I get found guilty.

I get 15 years. And when they found me guilty on Thursday, the prosecutor wanted a million dollars bond for me to come back the next morning. So judge said, Mr. McGowan, you'd be here at 9 o'clock tomorrow. Yes. He was to go home and just try to relax, you know, all right. So in fact, the next month. morning and they gave me 15.

Wait, wait, wait. You said they won a million dollar bond. Yeah, for me to throw overnight. But you didn't. No, he don't know. No, the judge said just. The judge said, okay, just come back. Just come back. Yeah. He knew what's going on.

And anyway, they, uh, so next morning I'd go in there and they give me 15. Well, at the time in Texas is, who gives you the jury? The jury. Not the judge. Yeah. In Texas, you can have a trial by judge or trial by jury. You can also divide it. I want to have a trial by judge where the guilt, guilt or innocent.

verdict and then the jury can give you punishment or vice versa. That's insane. Yeah. In the feds, the jury determines your guilt. The judge gives you the sentence. Either way you want in Texas, yeah. It's whatever the defendant wanted. But what's like the narrative or the argument for them to convict you?

Like what's the, you know, your argument is like, hey. That's the crux of it. Yeah. The state's theory was this. Did I was either dating the suspect or- How do they prove that? They didn't because it never happened. Okay.

And we'll get, that's, yeah, that's the whole cruxed this whole thing. They said I was either dating her or I was making advances on her and I'd spurn her advances. Even though you'd only barely met her one time, night before. Yeah, I'll see this woman three times in my entire life. When I went out of her on April 3rd and 92 to patrol that district, she was in the hospital in, I think North Carolina in a psych ward. She'd been out of mental institutions her entire life. And they pumped her up to that she was a naval officer, which is absolutely not true. She was enlisted.

She went through basic training at the Great Lakes. And she, when she's getting on a plane after she got a basic training, it'll be, I think, a dental hygienist. They found her back in the day, Quayludes. They immediately kicked her out of the Navy. She was never a nurse, not like that. It was never an officer.

She had no college degree. And then they said that she was an RN. Well, no, in Louisiana, she actually, she's from Louisiana originally. The suspect actually went to, like, LVN school, like a technical thing. She only worked for as a nurse, if you will, for two weeks. So she got called writing her own prescription on a D-A pad.

She was writing her own scripts. And so we have, of course, we have copies on that. She got her license permanently revoked in the state of Louisiana. And then she was married to a guy here in Louisiana. She had married a number of times. It was a police chief with some little podunk town in Louisiana, a swamp or ever. But she tried to murder him. And that's how she wanted to go into Houston.

She took her kid that's Jason Aguard when he was young. And she fled to Houston. She didn't know anybody in Houston because she tried to kill this police chief husband hers. And they're just a big, I don't talk negatively about the dad, but they're just white trash people. You know, well, she comes into Houston and she winds up meeting this guy named Ron White, who was a big wig with some organized crime connections. And he really didn't like her. And she squirrels him into marrying her because she had a kid and she needed some money.

So she starts knocking off this guy. And so he's playing golf. This very expensive golf club where they live. And he comes around a hole. And she's got a, what do you call it? The archway, flowered archway. And she's standing in a wedding dress in a justice of piece there with a marriage license. And he's out playing golf as buddies.

But he's like, okay, you know, whatever, man. But she was a total nut. And he tried to get rid of her multiple times. You know, and he was having affairs of the secretary. And then he winds up getting their, their illegal alien maid knocked up his seven-trial girlfriend. He was 56. But her whole history was like that.

I mean, I'm not defending her at all, anything she did. But the system absolutely failed this woman her entire life. I mean, with the drugs, the alcohol, mental health issues, in and out of mental hospitals, voluntarily and involuntary. She's escaped from a number of. One escape she pulled. She escaped out of a mental hospital. hospital and she catches a cab I don't recall where it was but the police immediately

catch her and she jumps out saying that she escaped because the female doctor had her and the cab driver just picked her up a few months early she said he tried to mess me that was her go-to right did I mean she harassed me and whatnot and then multiple histories of this when she was in Houston she actually got a job at a mortgage company the same thing and she had gone there on drugs and alcohol saying that you know, she was, you know, being, said she started accusing the owner of the mortgage company. He never even met her. So at the time of the shooting, he had a deal where he was giving her like 1,200 books a month.

Just don't come to work, you know, because she was a nut. And she only had one friend named Helen Bazada, who was just a big of a nut. And it's Helen Mazata, she was so crazy. They didn't even bother the grand jury or to the, you need to test final. But that was her whole basis because ballistics, forensics, that connect back then. Of course, we had beepers. They subpoenaed my pager number. She had never, and I lived out, I lived either my dad's ranch or my lake house,

both from her different counties by now and a half out from Houston. She had never called me. There was no record me ever calling her. Nobody never seen us together. She never mentioned my name to anybody until two, until the $40 for the shooting on the rest of her son. Right. And the only time I ever saw that woman. Oh man, here we go with this one.

The, uh, I had a civilian observer. You'll do a ride along with me. And I, we just cleared a big. a major disturbance. I'm dealing with T.A.B.C. But anyway, there was, I'm driving down T.C. Jester. And she lived about three houses down the street. I see a patrol car parked in the driveway of this house.

And I knew all the deputies, there's so few of us, I knew all the deputies lived out there. And I thought, I was in my beach. I already got the call for a call drop, right? So I turned around, you know, and what was odd was parked in the driveway. You don't park in front of a house for you get a call, particularly in the driveway because there's an ambush. You didn't be able to get out quick. The front door's open. And this is a house of the shooting occurs about three weeks later.

And I had a civilian guy with me. And I walk in and there's deputy Matt Smith, kick back in the lazy boy chair to the right. And some teenagers standing behind him. And one of them was Michael Schaefer, why not be in my informant. And Jason Aguilar, the suspect's son, well, suspect's sitting in a chair over in the corner. I never even look at this woman. Because, be honest with you, the fishers I've seen. I haven't told my Laura, you need to bring my wife and some girls I've dated and put them on the stand.

You know, this. I mean, she had rotted teeth, skinny, you know, bleach blonde, wasn't a non-attractable. But I didn't even look at her, neither is she. You know, and it was even brought up. These teenagers did admit this, that they never even looked at each other. Well, I look at Matt Smith, this deputy. I was like, what do you do?

First time I looked at the gun, got pulled on me three weeks later, sitting on a bar right, you on the door. I looked at this firearm, and I looked at him. What was there a gun laying here? And he goes, he goes, because I got it. I got it's cool. So I'm like everything cool. And he said, yeah.

And I was, all right. I mean, clearly when they're on a call, but he was on duty. Right. He was in uniform and patrol car out there. And so I really thought nothing of it at the time. But later in years, on this tab a tabloid trash book was written about my case. The woman, the very grasping police-hating female in Houston, but she wrote this book, she put in the book that Susan White,

this is just previous to the shooting, that Susan White was saying to some other, this lady in front of hers, that she'd been dating a deputy named Matt M-A-T-T when the deputy's name was Smith, you know and in a book she kept saying Matt

then she said and parenthetically or was it Mac my last time of course was Matt Galwin I've never gone by Mac knowing of my family's ever gone by Mac and she says Matt

and that was Matt Smith right it was known to be having to fling with this woman as with several other deputies we found out later and the captain but they back in the story, that was basically her history.

Her family had not spoken with her for over a year, more than a year before the shooting. They just had given up on her with the drugs and whatever. But I got knotted. I got convicted. I got the 15th of the first trial in 94. And the judge calls me up to the bench when he'll bring your lawyer. And he said, you need to go out and get a good appellate lawyer and you're just taking care of.

And I said, I don't know why I said this. I said, who you recommend? He goes, your lawyers know who to call. Right. I can't tell you, but it's on a Friday afternoon. And so we walk out and watch the pay phone and immediately call Max Secrets, George McCall's from my appellate lawyer. Brilliant lawyer.

You know, this is after my first trial. He kept my case, we won four out of four of appeals to almost 10 years. I was on appellate bond longer than anybody. I know in Texas. I don't know about anywhere else. But you're found guilty. You're sentenced. The 15.

You stay out on bond. Yeah, never step foot in jail. Okay. I went home that night. When I got the 15, we're all excited, you know, because I was looking at a life sentence. Right. And then, because we didn't have we got 15 unless I was going home. So everybody's like, like, look, he's awful excited.

Yeah, I'm not going to prison for life, you know. So that was on Friday, Monday went hired Max Secrest. And that started the appellate. The appellate for my first trial was brilliant lawyer. He's still practicing to this day. But he went four out of four appeals. But during this appellate division, we started getting death threats again. You mean my parents were I was.

And then it started spinning out of control. Every time I got a job, the DA's officer would call and tell the people, he was a convicted of murder. He's a killer, you know? Yeah. And I was on a bond in Texas, I know. You're not convicted to your appeals are over. I want to convict over a freaking parking ticket at this point, you know.

So I want to be an entrepreneur. But I was working for this company, and I was on a road quite a bit. and I was in Birmingham, Alabama, and I called home, and I call home every 9 o'clock every night. My kids were still little at this point. And my wife had just left and took my kids to their cousin's house down the street for a birthday party. And this is right at Christmas time, so it gets dark early. When she came in and she said, right if she shut the door, five seconds later, she was not going to doors, you had to be like hiding in the bushes by the house.

And it was Ed Porter, this prosecutor. He had a thing for my wife. He'd go to her stalker head or at her job. We had to call the sheriff to go get a, put a straining order against the prosecutor. Every time we'd change phone numbers, she would just get a subpoena and get new ones, constantly hassling or whatever. But he broke into, he knocked on the door and she opens the door by herself. And I always told her to know, don't open the door to the people.

She just, you know, opened it in the neighborhood. And he was like a big lurking, bulgy-eyed, patchy-haired, old guy, like late 50s, you know, for the end he was old to us. But he goes in and has turned her. all kind of crazy shit that he could arrange for me to be in jail so he didn't want to spend Christmas from my wife and kids and he screwed up man

he told Michelle my wife he told her that he had been living with a woman for 17 years and she'd recently left him and his daughter had recently passed away and that he was out to spend Christmas alone there's no way we would have known that well I call home at 9 o'clock that night and she's hysterical

I said what she's screaming you'd be broken house broke out. And he was there for more than two hours. And so she finally calmed around and told me, so I'll call my lawyer that then was Dick DeGaron. You know, and he said, he said, man, have her in my office tomorrow. And so I was trying to get back from out of town. They called the judge, and the judge ordered that prosecutor stay away from us, you know. He still didn't. Well, the judge calls us in and said, he said, look, I have grave because my kids are in private school. And they would show up at the private school and try and going to talk to my kids and like second, second, third, and fourth rate or something like that. The judge called us in one day and said, he goes, look, I have

concerns for you and her wife's safety over the, he was out particularly grave concerns over your children, something happening. Is there somewhere job relatives out of state? I said, well, yeah, you know, Tennessee and whatnot. And I don't know why I asked this, because my wife always lived in Montana and the military and loved it. I said, can we go to Montana? He goes, look, you've never been late until hearing long as you be on a call, I don't care where you go. You didn't get down the state. So my mom and dad watched our kids at this point. And Michelle drove to Montana, like 2,600 miles. We're gone like 10 days.

We're on the way back, and we stopped in, outside of Butte, Montana. And we stopped there was a little motel. And then I went down to get hamburgers or pizza, whatever. And I came back in the afternoon. And I see these four sheriff's patrol cars pulling out of the hotel. And so I was like, oh, that's weird. I went in and the door to the room was kicked down. Michelle soaking wet, nothing but my wife with a towel wrapped around her hysterical crying.

I thought I broke in a race. What the hell happened? It's been a good five, six, seven minutes to calm her down. Was she had called Houston, called her sister, and the DA had an illegal trap and trace, a bug, if you will, on the phone. Not where hiding. I mean, my boss has been lived across us free from me. He's my fishing buddy.

The judge told us to go. This asshole prosecutor, Ed Porter, called the sheriff's department up there, told him I'd kidnap my wife. I was a murder. And I'd kidnapped my wife. So I was a convicted murder, which I wasn't. I'd kidnapped my wife.

I was a driver to Montana. a murder barrier in the mountains, right? So, of course, she's a redneck sheriff up Montana, someone's a posse. And they go to the hotel and kick in the door while she's in the shower. Man, I'm pissed. I call my lawyer again. He was worried. So we're outside of But Montana.

He said, get here as soon as you can. But I couldn't even, I couldn't drive with her like that. So I put her on a plane. And she flies to Houston. I think I'd drive her to Missoula, I think, to the airport. She flies to Houston. My mom, my sister were there to pick her up. Well, here at the airport, she steps off the plane.

And there's Ed Porter, the prosecutor, Steve Clapper, and John Dillon. They said him, yeah. And they tell Michelle that she has to go to the DA's office. They didn't know, you know, you have to go with this. So she goes. You know, my mom, my sister followed. And they're showing them all tossy pictures. This is what your husband's going to do to you.

He's a murder. This is what he does to women. You're trying to turn her against me all this time. But that shit went on for, you know, nine and a half years in between trials. And mind you, but now our kids are teenagers. Then we even had another baby during this. our youngest one, many years later. But every time, for all those years,

any time my beeper went off, there was a phone call or knocked at the door, which you have teenagers, that happens a lot. I could have been turning myself in to go to prison, you know, so every time that phone rang or a beeper went off or a knock on the door,

I cringe for 10 years, you know. You know, then I took a toll on me, you know? And then, uh, finally, we won all the appeals. The DAs officer they weren't going to try me.

So you won all the appeals. Yeah. I do almost 10 years on appeal. Okay. So why are there multiple appeals? We can't winning. When Texas is. So you'd win and then they'd refile?

They would appeal. They would appeal that appeals. We were from the Court of Appeals. And then we filed it's called a petition for discretionary view with the court of criminal appeals in Austin, which is the highest appellate criminal court in Texas. We won the PDR. And then the prosecution, it was April 3rd when I got the first case over time. I remember it was my birthday. And Stephanie, Max Secreast, it took 36 months at that first win.

In my birthday, I was 7 o' morning. I picked up the phone and Stephanie, Mac's secrets, my Pelt Lord's secretary. And she goes, Ken, I said, yeah? She goes, Matt needs to talk to you. Hang on. So I'm waiting for at this point three years. Oh, that's fucking horrible. I'm going to hold like 10 minutes, man.

I'm like, wow, Michelle's asleep, right? And then Matt gets on the phone. He goes, we fucking whipped their ass. What do you mean? He was, we won. Every judge. and we won unanimously. And I think it's over.

Right. So I break down like a little biotchy, you know. And I said, I'm going to call you back, you know. And then Michelle's like, she thought I'm going to prison. I said, no, we won, you know, what? And so I call the family, whatever. So I call Mac back. And he said, hey, I need you come to office today.

And we live quite a way a couple hours from downtown, Houston. And he, you know, I said, all right. And so I go to his office, you know. And I said, what happens now? I thought it was over. He goes, oh, they're going to appeal it. What do you mean? You know?

And then they filed, let's call a PDR, petition for a discretionary view to the public court and the court of criminal appeals in Austin. That took like two years. We won then. The DAI's office appeals it again, back to the 14th court of appeals in Houston, when they call a hearing and bonk, when all 11 judges, instead of three, all 11 judges, listen, all 11 voted. It was a bullshit deal, right?

Then they appealed it again on what's called. called a harmless error analysis. At this point, the DA's office was saying, you know, we fucked up. But it wasn't so bad that a jury would have found him not guilty, you know. That was her last grasp. Well, we went on the hearing and bonk, you know. And it's changed federal and state law, actually, but now the burden of proof on a harmless error analysis falls on the prosecution and not to defend that.

And the last one. And so the DAs all said, okay, we're going to try him. man. So a very wealthy uncle at the time, and he went to when he passed away. But he called me to his house. He said, look, man, I'm going to cut the check. This is destroying the entire family, extended family. And he said, go talk to the top five lawyers in the state, narrowed down to three.

Then we'll go meet with him. Which, I went to talk to Max Secre's, my pillow attorney first, right? And he said, he was kind of a cowboy dude, the old barnwood door. He said, let me tell you something. he said, I can handle this case. And he had four, you know what a Brady violation is, right?

That's basically when the, the prosecution, he's called a lot cheating. Yeah. We had 42 Brady violations. And you only need one thing to get overturned appeals. We had a very blatant, which the judge intentionally did it for,

so you'd overturned. But he goes, look, I can't, Secret said, look, I can't tell you we're not going to go to trial, but with Brady violations, our chances are pretty slim. All right. And my worst,

what's your feeling? fee and he said a million dollars you want a million dollars cash up front non-refundable retainer and we should have done it I would have never gone to president it would have been cheaper in a long run but he said it's going to it's a non-refundable retainer it's going to run way over that you're going to have to pay it you couldn't argue with the guy because he won right his we'd see his briefs for what not prepared is and it was like a PhD battling with kindergartner right brilliant you know and so talked to him talked to dick to garren and biggest mistake in my life went to talk to dan cobb and

Cogdell, a lawyer, what I'm getting. And Brian Binkin and Clint Greenwood, they're good dudes, man, but they're just low-keyed. You know, I wanted a big brash, loudmouthed who had, we weren't scared of anybody. He didn't give a shit, you know, no, no, no what it cost. And I'd seen Cogdell around the, I've never talked before, but I'd seen them around the courthouse or whatnot. And so, um, uh, we go to, we go to meet, I'll go meet with Cogdell. It's pretty badass office. And there's another lawyers that work with them, an investigator.

and paralegals are where these ladies were. And we're going to take the case. We'll take the case. We'll take the case. You know, all right. We had my uncle and I said, but I think we should go with Cogdell, you know, and he was lying. That wasn't even in his office. We found out he had not practiced law in a year.

He'd knocked up some dancer check, paid her a million dollars, let him have the kid. This guy has something else, but we wind up hiring Cogdale. And then, so I went to sit down with Cogdell, and he told us it would be $300 grand. So I don't go get paid him 300 grand. It was a lot more than that. And I found that later. But I was explaining to Cogdale, you know, the situation, you know, at her first meeting. And he said, asked me what you did.

He said, what are they saying happened? I said, well, they tried to say that I knew this woman. He goes, did you ever see her anywhere? And she had this thing for police officers. She was banging some deputies out there and the captain. Yeah. There's some probabilities of somebody, some couple people in between. the major and the deputies in rank, but nonetheless.

But I explained to him, I said, I've won't have seen this woman three times in my entire life. I told you earlier about when Deputy Matt Smith was there. Yeah. I saw her. I saw her 40 hours for the shooting when she also didn't know me then. 40 hours before the shooting when she didn't know me when arrested her son. The third time I saw a woman, the only words ever said her, you need to get your ass out of

you going to jail. The only words ever said that woman besides, drop the gun, I'm going to shoot you. Right. You know. And that's what I'm telling her spoke for. and they did everything they could to try and find some connection. We know Al Kelly was a deputy, testified against him the last trial.

He was in a process of leaving his wife and moving in with Susan White at the time of the shooting. That comes up after my first trial, you know? But everything I'm telling you was documented. And Jerry Langton, who wrote the book that recently came out, we went to that a little bit, but it was one thing. He told me, I said, you know, something, he was, I've interviewed thousands of people in my career, doing this, Kent. He said, do you know the difference between you and everybody else

saw me interview doing things like this? And I said, well, my quick wit, my, you know, sparky smile, my, you know, sparkly eyes. It was no asshole. He said, you have the receipts, you know. Mind you've been gone for 20 years. So I'm still catching up all his term. I said, what does that even mean? He goes, because he fact checks everything. You know, he's investigative journalist and whatever. He said, everything you've told me, I've, part of the witnesses, I've seen documents. He said, you have documents proof everything that's happened. I said, yeah. But anyway, they, you know, I met with Cogdale, and he said every Monday, Wednesday,

and Friday's going to be McGowan time from three to five. And we had 11 months. Actually, I hired him in March. We almost going to trial the following Thanksgiving in 2002. And not one time in 11 months did I ever go to his office and discuss the case? Never. Every time he was friends with Johnny Caraba's, Van Hylum Carabas restaurants and Damia Mendoza's

famous uncle. All we'd do, we'd go to Johnny Carabas and Dan was friends with Lyle Lovett, that country singer. Guy, he's been married to whatever name was, Julie Roberts. But they'd go in there and we'd eat and they'd drink and smoke cigars. That's all we ever did.

About my second or maybe the third time to go do that with Dan, we're coming back in his co-counsel, Alan Goodling. There we'd call him Jack Shacks, these little oriental massage bars, you know? He pulls into one at gravel parking lot. And I said, what are you doing?

He goes, we're going here and get a hand job, man. I thought he's bullshit in me, right? I said, what? He goes, yeah, we did serve a day after lunch. I think this is what we're doing with my family's money. Right. I said, are you fucking kidding me, man? He goes, ah, we do it all the time.

You're going to go in or what, man? I said, man, hell no, man. So, we'll do it later. So he went to his office and I left. But that went on from March until we finally got a court date. It was like the week before Thanksgiving. And during his time period, we'd go eat. And a few times I'd go to his office, we'd sit there and he'd smoke cigars and drink scotch and talk about nothing.

And after about two months into it, I said, damn, what's our game plan here, man? I shit you negative, man. This guy looks at me and goes, let me tell you something. Here's what we're going to do. Because he fancies himself a big GQ ladies, man, dude. But he said, here's what going to do, man. He said, look, when we have voir dire, when he picked the jury. He said, don't just stare at him, make eye contact with the best looking women in the jury pool.

Like, what? And he goes, yeah, I'm going to get to him on the jury. He goes, every time I do this, he said, during trial, all I said, these women will call me. Hey, if I sleep with them or go out with them, they'll give us a yes vote. At first, I'm thinking he's bullshit me, right? I look at him. That's insanity. Yeah.

At this point, aren't you thinking, hey, I need to find another lawyer? Yeah. And I said, I said, you shit me, man? It's not this way. I said, Dan, that's your legal strategy, that's your murder case, you know? And so more money get changing hands. And he called me one time,

I needed another 100,000 higher expert witnesses, right? So no, I need a lawyer. Yeah, well, well, this is, you know, toward. I get a public defender to be this fucking incompetent. Like 30 days into it, and this. And so he needed 100 grand hire expert witness, which he never hired any of them. We don't find out of trial. And I'm saying, where are they?

So he pocketed another 100 grand. Right. you know and so he's not doing jack shit and then by this time he's in another a small building he told me he owned another attorney and this big staff so we're coming up for trial at Thanksgiving

and he said hey what we're going to do is we're going to schedule it and then for the day Wednesday the day before Thanksgiving and then what we're going to do is drop some Brady violations on him and the judge will have to dismiss the cases with prejudice the charge of prejudice

No, they won't. Not with prejudice. So my family all comes down. We're starting to get ready. And then Dan, my family flies in from all over and then gets a bump to March, you know, because he wasn't ready. He hadn't talked to anybody at this point. And then, well, let me back half a step here. In the middle of the loss, we had a federal trial, which we won. It was a joke, this federal trial. It was, it was.

What was it for? Oh, there's everybody who ever knew that woman sued everybody, the sheriff, the chief of police. police, me. All they saw was money, you know. They didn't get anything. And during the trial, Kenneth Hoyt was a, not to get political, but he was a very liberal Clinton appointee, police hating federal judge. I was originally in Judge Ken, um, Sam Kent's court in Galveston, they tried to get me in. Well, he was being federal judge was, and he was impeached for assault, whatever. So he had bumped in in this, this character, Kenneth Hoyt. And, uh, We go on a trial and voir dire, when they're picking the jury, there was a very heavy, sad African-American lady, about 600 pounds.

She said and stared to me for like four or five days on voir dire. And then at the end, the judge asked, does anybody have any questions? You know, and she said, she goes, I got some question. She goes, everybody can't look at her. She goes, look smart. She goes, when we's going to talk about the death penalty? She doesn't want to have me executed, you know. And the judge said, well, this is a civil.

There's nobody being executed here. You fucking idiot. Yeah, you know. But then back up once again at my second trial, a criminal trial during voir dire, they always ask, I mean, you've been through the system. They always ask, does anybody know the defendant, any of the attorneys? No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, or any members of her family, a member of law to force men to all the different.

Well, everybody's, no, no, no, you know. Well, I had one female, all male, one female in that jury. And we found out after the trial, Not only does she lie about not being a lawyer. She was a lawyer. She worked for my prosecutor at the DA's office for a time. So she forgot to tell us that her. Her name is Julie.

But she's being addressed about that. But she forgot to tell us that she actually used to work as a DA with the prosecutor that was going after me. But yet the federal trial, we went through about five days of it. And there was one of the lawyers against everybody who was after us. The chief of police, the sheriff, the county attorney was that himself was representing it. This guy's name was Brandon, this lawyer. And he's standing behind me. He had like a polka dotaged.

He looked like something off a clown show. Pocodot a towel. Short, fat, heavy, he said, well, one guy. Plad suit. He's standing behind me. He's standing behind me hollering. This boy, there's a murderer. A murderer.

Stand around by me screaming this during the trial, right? I didn't convict of anything. And then the county attorney himself was representing me. And he's standing on him saying, your honor, you know, and we weren't allowed to put one witness on the stand. You have a constitutional right. to all this, right? We can put a witness on stand.

None of my lawyers, the sheriff's lawyers, the police department's lawyers, county attorneys, they weren't allowed to confront any witnesses, you know? And so, finally, the county attorney stood up and threw his pencil in there and he goes, hey, we, you know, your honor, we have a right to do this, you know. He said, you have a right to shut the hell up. He goes, you don't have judged it. And he said, he said, I want to the way a room of court, you can leave, you know. But during the, during the federal trial was ridiculous.

I went to it like five days. That's my Lord, do I need to be here? And he goes, no, you're not going to testify. You don't really have to be there, so I didn't even go. But an odd thing happened during the middle of trial. One day we're eating lunch at the cafeteria of the federal courthouse. And one of the lawyers was there standing next to me from the other side. And he kind of looks to me and said, how's it going, man?

I said, all right. And I said, what do you think about this? He goes, we can't be talking. And between your meals, this is bullshit because we know what's going on. We recently talked to this guy. But also there was a. I went to lunch. It was that Captain Harper,

Sheriff's captain, who was banging the suspect. You know, he didn't marry 20-something years. But we all go to lunch. Sheriff, Captain Lieutenant Coons, all was going to lunch. We're coming back. I mean, we're eating lunch.

And C.J. Harper, Captain Harper, went to go wash his hands or whatever. I said, that's a sorry motherfucker right there. I'm a sheriff. Everybody looks at me. What are you talking about? I said, y'all know that he was banging her, right? And they'll look at me.

County attorney, I said, none of y'all have known this. It was well known out in the district. And all just like looking. And Lieutenant Coons, my lieutenant was there. Good guy, man. So the county attorney said, don't say anything when he comes back, right? So currently when he came back, he knew something was up.

Somebody isn't saying anything. So we walk all the way back to the federal courthouse. And Lieutenant Coons goes, I'm going to confront him. Because Captain Harper, I'm going to get a pack of smokes out of my car. And so, well, Lieutenant Coons followed Captain Harper. And Coons goes about pissed. So what do you say? He said, yes, so what?

but he comes strolling back up, you know. I said, man, how can he do this? Because this is after I've been convicted criminally the first time. I said, man, how can you do this to my family mean? He goes, what? I said, you committed aggravated perjury to grand jury. You clearly did during my trial. And now he just lied on federal stand.

He goes, I'm going to give a fuck up there 25 years. Where are they going to fire me? They're going to do shit. And he didn't do anything to him. But. So you found guilty on the... No, the civil. No, it reached the civil, but in the middle of it got to the...

Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, they threw it right out. So what happened in the second trial, the criminal trial? Well, we wound up going back to trial again with Cogdale. And Cogdell never looked at one document at all. And he spoke to one witness. And that was Michael Schaefer, the confidential informant. He spoke to him for less than an hour at a restaurant, busy restaurant on the Sunday night prior to my trial beginning Monday morning. That's the only witness to talk to.

And did he find out why he was cooperated? Dan Foreman? Yeah. He's bouncing back and forward. He's cooperated with us now. But 11 days prior to trial, my kids, our kids were at school, and I started talking to my wife, Michelle, I said, man, Coddill's, and she hated Cogdell from where Goge, she said, you need to get rid of him, you know. And now we're too close to trial. We had a trial date, you know, 11 days away.

And Michelle are talking in bone rings. It's Jeff Becker. Cogdill's private investigator. And he said, hey, man, I need, can you mean for lunch? I said, yeah, I need to talk to you. I knew by his tone and hung up. I looked at him. I said, me, oh, fucked.

I'm going to prison. She goes, what do you say? I said, I was Jeff. He wants to meet me. So I drive all the way down to Cadillac Bar and Grill. I was like this yuppie place. I went in there, you know, we had a few lone stars and cheeseburger. And Jeff left for me, he goes, you're fucked you going to prison.

I said, I just said those very words of Michelle, what in the hell is Cogdell doing? He's not doing a fucking thing. He said, Jeff Becker told the investigator said that Cogd owed him $136,000 in investigative fees from my cases and others, he doesn't have the money to pay it. And he said that, uh, he said those, he goes, that office building, he's just borrowing that from another attorney. That's not even his office. He goes, all the secretary's about to quit. He goes, we haven't been paid in months. They're about to cut the phones off. And I told you, I talked to those other, there's me and three of the very high profile cases that he had. I knew that the four of us talking that we had given

Dan, the mentally $11 million in legal fees in 11 months. And I asked Becker. I said, what the fuck can he do with $11 million he's made blew it on hookers and snorted up his nose and blew it on hookers. I said, that's a lot of dope and punting, man. You know? So, obviously, I'm pissed. So I stormed, jump on my truck. I go to slam the doors open on cog down. Linaway,

I'm going to grass. Man, if I go to prove, I'm coming for you, man. You know. So I'm going to try 11 days later. And Dan was so high on cocaine. He literally did not know where the witnesses were on the stand. He gives me a stack of post-it notes and two legal pads. He was

write down, you know, before trial, write down whatever's going on. I'm literally writing on the legal pad, and there's multiple witnesses to this. Everybody knows it happened. I'm running a legal pad who the witnesses are on the stand and the questions to ask them, you know. Like the second or third day into this, he said, hey, quit doing that, man. You're making me look like a fucking, make me look bad. I said, I'm here, my life's on the line. You don't know a fucking thing, man.

And then, William Rol and the two deputies are courageously stood by me up to this very day. there's none of our stories of waiver, but he told me don't talk to any witnesses, right? And so Marga Maloy, of course, I'll go ahead and shook their hand. I hadn't seen them in all these years. I said, hey, Cogdell walks up. I said, I'm wrong with all right, so you guys ready to test finally. So we don't know.

And I said, what do you mean you don't know? So when you didn't even talk to your lawyer? I said, did you ever even talk to these guys? No, I've got their statements. That's ten years ago, man. So I showed them around the hallway, and we had words. Cogdiel and I did. And then trial was just, it was a circus, man.

It was bullshit, man. Contradicting everything. But anyway, it comes down to it at the trial. You took a break after both sides put on or partakes, you have closing arguments. Well, he broke like an hour for closing arguments. Well, Cogdell tells me and Jeff Becker is investigator, any dog to go with me because he had a townhouse near downtown. So I'm the front passenger side of the truck.

Becker's in the backseat, Dan's drive. We go to Dan's townhouse and we start to get out. Dan was no his way to here. But Dan goes in his townhouse, townhouse. And I said, Becker goes, you know what he's doing, don't I? He's fucking blowing, man. He goes, that's exactly what he's doing.

He comes back. He literally had cocaine on his nose. I say, you know, wipe that shit off your nose, Dan. So we go back to the courthouse to do closing arguments. And he's pouring sweat, screaming and hollering, and running around, pointing different stuff, you know. It was a joke. Absolutely freaking joke, man.

And then the DA gets up there on their closing arm and says, you know, we don't need to all the screaming hollering. We all know what went on. Blah, blah, blah. So I got found guilty. And this was a Friday, and that weekend was my birthday, my anniversary, and Easter all fell on the same weekend. So that sucked. I sat in jail for that weekend.

And then they put me on the call the cop to contain. Did you have a jury trial at this one? Bullchair trials, all three trials, including the federal trial. but yeah so I'll get found guilty I go back Monday they bring me in and we're standing there and the jury goes and deliberate right so it was like four hours of things something like that and they came in you know I'd run to spend it rise and blah blah blah so I saturned they came in and they gave me 20 years and they changed the law even if I got 15 I wasn't I'm going to stand and so I heard my mother whale dad sobbing everybody in the family you know and I was like and told you my brother's a police officer and then one time I think that day we're walking back from the day before we were walking back from lunch

and we walked by parking my truck was parked and I knew I was going down at that point I kind of stopped hesitated and looked at my truck my brother grabbed me and said don't even think about it I was really thinking about hauling ass I was done for anyway you know

trying to find me in Belize or whatever and then I was hugging my family goodbye you know let me do that because I knew all the deputies and the bailiffs and whatnot. And so I hugged him. My brother has Glock, you know, my pad, and he goes, don't even think about it. Not that I was thinking about it, but he said, don't even think about it, man.

But Neil South's pissed. And then they didn't want me in Harris County jail because I trained most of those people. My cousin was a deputy there. I think it's been like one day in jail. I think like in the next early, like one o'clock in morning came and got me. And it took me to prison. And it was. they move me just ahead.

I want to 20 different units over there. And Texas has like 110, 111 units. But they took into bird units where they do processing. And I get there, it's dark. And that's the only time in 19 years, four months and four days of prison, they put me in any kind of safety situation. They put me in what they call a safekeeping wing.

And this prison was built like in 1868 or something like that. Old red bricks, the big cranking bars, you know, doors, whatever. And I'm like, just, this is fucked up, right? And this is in March. In Texas, there's no air conditioner. I don't think they have air conditioner in Florida prisons either. I've run into some guys at the time. It's horrible.

Yeah. But I put them over the third tier, right? So I'm walking down this tier, the safekeeping tier. I'm clearly the only Caucasian guy. Clearly, the old heterosexual. And most probably clearly, the only guy with an IQ over 70 or had any sliver of sanity, you know, his head. Back then they had boxers with the flies in them, you know, on the front. and they're all, you know, hands and knees, you know, spread, you know, butt cheeks.

Hey, man, who's so pussy? Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking, are you fucking kidding me? I thought that's why I was going for 20 years. I don't jack shit up at the penal system at that point. And I'm like, fuck this, man. So I put me in there all night they're screaming all night long, which is pretty much for the next 20 years when I dealt with. I was in there, and about two days later, they came and see got a bench warrant,

which we had to go out to Harris County. So then I thought, were they going to charge me some other nonsense, right? I know what's going on. But his two deputies came up to Huntsville, which is about an hour from Houston or TDC's headquarters. And his deputies, they shackle me. And I'd recognize him, right? But they're like, don't say anything, right?

They're like, don't say anything, right? They're checking me out and put me in the sheriff's van and go around the corner. They unchackle me, whatever. It took me to do a drive-thil, Waterburger and whatnot, which is the last Waterburger had for almost 20 years. It was the first place I went when I got out. But I go down to Houston for like one or two days. I go back.

And when you're going through, as you went through, I'm sure, orient, not orientation, what do you call it? They're doing classifications as far as your crime and where they're going to house you

and whatever your status, whatever, classification stuff. They don't do that in the Fed's, but you know, where you said they send you to a processing station kind of that you're there for a few months. Sometimes sometimes some places it's weak,

sometimes it's months, and then you go to your prison. Correct, yeah. Intake, I think, they call it. Yeah. But I went in and I was going through this and then.

They went, they have sociology one and two. And sociology one was about your family. I'm not telling them shit. shit about my family. I guess I do that in case you run away or something. I'm going to tell them shit

about any of my family. And then this might have been up for five days. And the next day he called me down. I don't forget this, man. She was his lady, African-American lady, maybe 45.

All again, and she had four big three-ring binders and two or three small ones spread across her desk. And all again, and she goes, Jim McGowan,

I said, yes, ma'am, she goes, have a seat. I'd rather stand. And I'm pissed at this point. right, obviously. And she goes, you know, I've been doing this for 14 years. She goes, this is the biggest crock of shit I've seen.

Yeah. And she goes, you had a valid judge, a felony warrant signed by a judge. You said, the officer's with you. You didn't even know that witnessed it. The suspect had a gun she illegally had. Her own son testified she's going to kill her husband with it. She goes, how in the hell do you wind up in prison over this, you know? I said, shitty lawyers and, you know, you're fighting a corrupt system.

She was telling me that somebody trying to get you out of here. And of course, you don't hear from your family. They can't, you're no contact where you're going to have a week. Yeah. Yeah. So the next day, some idiot guards come and get me. And you say, you got a legal visit. So I figure it said Dickhead Cogdell, right?

So I go down there and there's Jack B. Zimmerman, Marine Corps colonel and very famous attorney. And actually, Dan Cogdell, several of my lawyers, Dan Cogdell, Dick DeGaron, Jack Zimmerman. We're all involved in the Waco, the Branch of Edians. They're the ones who went into the compound. I think another one. I think four of my lawyers were the ones that went in that wanted to have it years later. And as a matter of fact, reflecting on that was Ed Porter, the prosecutor and Steve Clapper and John Nino would have set me up. They went to my parents' ranch in the middle wall of this stuff before I got sent to prison.

After the branched of theidian shootout, they went trespassed. While we weren't there or whatnot, made a video, they called my lawyers laughing about it. Tell my lords, they couldn't wait for the shootout at the McGowan compound, referring to the branch of the Indians. those they're gunning for me, man, you know. And then, but anyway, this lady, you know, the intake, you know. And she said that. And I told Zimmerman, what she told me. So they tried for like a year to get those documents.

TDC, well, they're in a warehouse here. Their archive was we never get hold of what she was reading. When I asked the lady, I said, what are those? She goes, these are the, the, your court, your files, legal files. It was from Ware. And she was from the DA's office. So that sure as hell's not with their test. quite a court to, you know. But anyway, so Jack Zimmer comes to see me and he said,

your dad and your wife hired me. It's all right. And I knew who he was. I never spoke on them before, he was a very famous lawyer. He goes, he goes, I have two questions for him. He goes, why do you hire me from the, at first? You know, death like an asshole. So I should have, you know, and he said, what happened? You know, I talked to that point like two hours. And then he looked at me and said, let me tell you something, man. He said, if I sat here with you and you told me this about any other lawyer beside Dan Cogdell. He said, I'd get him walk away. He goes, I don't want to help you when something I'll work out. You say crazy shit like this. He don't cut it's crazy stuff like that. He said, I've known Dan for 20 years. I believe

every word you're saying. I'm going to take your case. All right. So it was Jack and his daughter, who's Marine Corps Colonel too, Terry Zimmerman, brilliant lawyer. And then Jim Lindemann was a third part on there. And they filed my direct appeal. A couple years later, we lost. Then they filed a PDR, the court of criminal pills, they weren't hearing it. And then my next step was a red to habeas corpus. So I wanted to hire in Randy Schaefer. And he and I didn't get along. He was just an out there police hating dude, man. But he despised Dan Cogdell, a lawyer. And he took my case, he didn't get him shit about me. But he was trying to get me out of prison look Dan looked bad, you know. And so, man, we battled, I battled that guy for three years or what to get,

you know, the writ, we had six points of error. I signed off for him after three years of battling with him. He takes off three. The only three had left was ineffective assistance of counsel, which means Dan didn't do shit, got to be locked up. And so we wound up losing, our state writ of Havis Corpus. And then, and actually, we have possession now. So when Dan watches this, he's going to know.

Dan wrote a person, Cogdill wrote a personal letter to Randy Schae from a writ lawyer. And we call it the Cogdell confession. And I stumbled across it, which we'll get these documents shortly. But everybody said, I have fucked up, man. I never talked to any witnesses. I didn't know what to object to a trial. I don't know why I didn't object to this. This is a personal letter, which somehow we had a hold of it, you know.

And then during my appeals, Cogdell, which I never heard from him in those time, he did write two formal statements but order the court saying that under two situations, he said that what the actions I took were inadvertently non-strategic, what your legalese for I fucked up. I fucked up, you know. They weren't here. They didn't care.

And then the judge I had my second trial. She despised me, made a bunch of inappropriate comments in front of the jury out in the street and whatnot. But anyway, that's where that leads to.

And then after my trial, then back up again, after my second, when I got found guilty, that's a 20, Cogdell, because Cogdell had that practiced law in a year. We don't find out to later.

Because he was, that dancer chickie got knocked up. I had the kid with and all that. But Alan Goodling was his co-counsel at the time. And Dan called a big press conference. Well, Dan burns out of the courts chambers. At least my family to walk out there to the media, all hysterical. Because he lost.

He thought this was his big win to get him up and going again. Well, Alan Goodling actually went and talked to the jurors. He said, how did you find him guilty? And they said, well, he didn't testify. I kept telling Cogdill, you need to put me on the stand. If it comes to a case where somebody's dead, or a sex allegation, the defendant needs to tell her story.

Right. You know, because if you don't tell your story, somebody else is going to tell that story, it's not going to be in your favor and you're going to get fucked. You know, you need to talk. But you kept saying, well, you're too arrogant and all this about this stuff, you know. It doesn't matter. I need you get through until what happened.

So Alan went there and talked to the jury. And he said, how did you find him guilty? There was a two-week trial. And the jurors told Alan Goodling, my dad's partner, that they said, well, McGowan didn't testify. we don't know what happened for the first week. We thought him and he and two buddies went broken in a house on a robbery and killed the housewife. That's what they thought for a whole week, you know?

And then he said, well, how did you, why did you give him 20 years? They said, no, we only gave him five years. He said, no, I was sitting there. You gave him 20 years. They said, well, the prosecutors at this point is Vic Wisner and Ed Porter. Ed Porter was with us the whole time. The prosecutors illegally went and talked to the jury during deliberations. told them that because of who my family is and because my being a police officer that I have

easy in prison and only had to do a quarter of my time. So Jerry thought, well, whatever happened, five years is good. So, you know, and of course, Alan said, you know, you gave him 20. That doesn't mean he's getting out and fight. What's too late then, you know? And then, yeah, and Cognol's whole law firm broke up after this. Everybody involved us, we're out of here, man. Right. Because all four of these high profile cases got nailed. them. But then, you know, I'm locked up and come up for parole for the first five years. Because it was eligible after five. I got 20, so I was eligible in five, right? So for five years, man, it was a nightmare, dude.

You know, five years comes up and we lost an appeal, lost another appeal. I hired the rent lawyer filing that, my five years comes up. Well, my dad hired a, uh, uh, Gary Cohen. He's not supposed to be the best parole officer state. parole off I mean parole lawyers they're a joke it's a scam it's a big rip off but uh my my dad my brother is a policeman came out told me hey you got to lost your appeal and you got to set off you know to your set off i said that's it man do you even see that do you even see the parole board great question great question it's not like people see on tv as you know you don't go to sit you

you don't get like five or seven people parole board and you sit there i'm sorry you know i'm sorry i should never done it or i didn't do this you don't know you you don't know you you never see your voters in Texas unless you have a very high profile case or you have a lot of people political wise pushing or pulling one side of the other when i came up um after seven years my second time up lind rizek was a parole commissioner she was actually probably the only one in the state was well respected and uh by this time i've been sent to another unit down on the coast and uh she called me in to talk to me and she said look let me tell you something yeah she said uh I don't submit to public pressure.

I don't submit her own about on the political pressure. She goes, but my boss, my boss's boss do. Her boss and boss and boss gave me a set off two years previously, right? She goes, look, I let a man out of here who'd murder a Texas rangers. She goes, but she goes, let me tell you something. She goes, they're not going to let you out of here. You know, she said, if I let you out here, it's going to be all over the news. If I don't let you out of here, it's going to be all over the news.

That's well, we're going to be in the news. You know, feel for the right thing. Let me out of here. She said, you're never getting proled down here. And not even seven on a 20 at this point. She goes, your family needs to figure out some of the way. You're never going to be paroled out of here. That was disheartening.

So anyway, I got set off after set off from parole. And finally, I had approximately a year left. It was my 10th time of for parole. I had, at this point, the Texas Rangers had been involved for four and a half years. Investigation trying to get me out. They had two investigations going. it was one was against the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and their buffoonish OIG clowns and the parole board. A lot of illegal family got shook down for 300 grand from a parole person, family member out of state.

It was like that the whole 20 years. And then Rangers are investigating the sheriff's department and the DA's office of Harris County. What happened? So I had some calls being made and I had a name I'd definitely need to mention as an executive director of the Houston Police Officers Union, Ray Hunt. And it was like, it was March 13th of 2013. I already lost some family members. Both my mom and dad were in their fatal diseases.

And then I sent a Hail Mary letter. I wrote one to Texas Rangers and I said, I'm still one of you guys. I'm your brother. I'm blue. I'm in trouble. I need help. And that bounced around from like Austin, San Antonio, Waco,

Orlando, the Company A Rangers in Houston. And I said, I went to Ray Hunt. And I'd gone to the academy with his brother in 84. I'd never met Ray. You know, by news, the executive director of the union. And I said, hey, I met your dad. I went to the academy of your brother. I met your dad.

He came out hunted at family's ranch a couple of times and the same thing. One of you, one of the good guys, brother in Bloom, and showed any help. And both them and then the Ranger named Val, and then Ray Hunt, contact with my dad, and said, what's going on? you know and and in there they did four and after investigations a whole bunch of the crazy stuff on but uh that shook people up and then a very high-ranking politician and Texas got involved so I'll come up for my final shot of parole my 10th time up and it was uh during COVID it was during COVID so they couldn't come in to see but I was on the politicians are

they gave me moved to a private prison for the last two years. And the bad guys who set me up, Manley Cloppert and Denholm, they get getting more aggressive. They never thought I was going to make it through prison because there were many attempts on my life. It was just crazy. But so finally at the end, I got put in a private prison in Cleveland just out of Houston, about an hour north of Houston.

And so the major comes in and says, hey, parole wants to see you. And so he takes me into his office because of COVID, she couldn't actually come in. And so I sit down and, you know, he's upset at his desk and he said, he says, he'll pop up here on the, on the computer. All right. So Major walks out. I'm sitting there. And the computer pops up and there's looks like you're my mom, you know. And she goes, she goes, how you doing, Kent?

What was it? My first name is Joseph. So she called me Kent. I kind of caught my attention, right? And it's only a third time I ever got to see him in a, the one before and another one, which was part of the shape. down and in this. And I kind of look at her funny. She goes, can you hear me?

And I said, I've never talked to the computer before. You know, I said, I kind of laughed. She goes, I guess you have it. I said, no. And I was ready to give her my spiel. And she said, look, Kent, she goes, I know what's happened to you in prison.

I know how you wound up in prison. I cannot get a good conscience let you sit here for 20 years. I only had like a year left anyway. Well, she had given me a one year set off before, about a year and that before. I said, well, I know you gave me a set off last time. takes two. She goes, don't worry, we know, we know what's happened now. So call's been made. And I said, what about the second vote? Another voter was a retired sheriff, the sheriff of Lubbock County.

And she says, it's been taken care of them. And she said, we're going to give you an immediate release on an FI1. I mean, out of here now. She said, no restrictions, nothing. So I didn't know what to say. I was like, oh, thank you. You know, trying to cry like a little girl, you know. I didn't, lead it all. Because in a 22-month period, right before I got out, my uncle, I told you about passed away, then my mom passed away, then my aunt married the uncle, then my dad passed away 11 months into this, and my eldest son and wife and I haven't were teenagers passed away. And then after that, my sister-in-law, who was high school sweetheart for my brother, I adored her since I was nine years old, all passed away at this, this bababam with her another, you know.

So anyway, Trace Longham, the parole commissioner. And she said, do you know why even deny parole for 15 years or 10 times up? I said, I had my suspicion. She goes, do the name Steve Clopper and John Dinhome familiar? I said, yeah, the other guys just set me up. She said, they've been calling here for 15 years, and she have contracts out to have them killed. If we let you out that you're going to have them murdered, I was like, be understandable. What am I going to do it, you know?

She said, well, she goes, we know it's bullshit. You know, I'm going to get you out immediately. It still took 86 days to get me out because they kept calling. You know what I'm saying? So finally, they came to get me out. I didn't know who's going to pick me up, you know. It was Ray Hunt, his brother was a police officer, another Houston police officer. I picked me out.

I walked out. Three people I wanted there was my mom, my dad, and my son. But, you know, in COVID, I had not seen the sunlight in 17 months, you know. So Ray brought me some clothes. I'm, you know, buttoned up shirt. Oh, this is weird, you know, a belt. Oh, hell no, you know. But I went out and first thing I did, I was looking around and sit my mom and

and dad were son there. I was thinking maybe, in my mind, maybe, because you know, when you're locked up, you can't deal with that stuff. It's a little crazy. He's just kind of kind of filing. And I was kind of looking, you know, maybe I just misunderstood. They weren't there, of course. But then there's Ray and those two other HPD.

Oh, hey, man, you know. They videotaped it, of course. So anyway, I get on parole. And they take them where I was going. I had to go see the pro also the next day. So I was in Houston. Man, I'm going there. What in the hell, man?

Are people fighting in the park? I mean, my prologsterers, I mean, my prologster, they were totally cool. I was shot. They said, hey, look, we got you on SSP, which man, I had to wear ankle monitor. And I said, I was told by the parole lady. commissioner, I don't, she said, look, man, we have people watching us watch you. And she said, you're being flagged.

No one thinks you're at danger to do some stupid. God forbid something happens to you, it's going to go straight up the chain and command. So I just think I'll bet you're going to have some rest for eight and half months. And then those guys got me a phone, which I'd never seen a phone. Oh, you know, one of these smartphones. They don't jack shit about it. But then when I got off, they said, don't look up your lawyers, you. Because they didn't want me to see what was out there, tabloid trash stuff.

And anyway, so I get out and this is where we're released for him today, man. I got out and no lawyer is going to handle my case because they're scared of cognitive. And then I finally had a lawyer to contact me. They said, hey, I know an attorney who knows about your case. I'll take your case. So I had him for like 15 months that he gets disbarred. That doesn't do with me. It's some nonsense.

And then, boom, man. I started, I learned how to use the phone, you know, and Facebook. And then I reached out to a very well-known screenwriter, retired FBI agent. He said, man, if you talked to Michael Tabman? I don't know. Well, Tabman, he lives here in Florida. And he's a retired supervisory special agent on the FBI, a 26-year veteran as a police officer before that. So, man, he takes on my case.

And he did a three-year investigation. He's interviewed, we have on, you know, videotape, Mara and the lawyer, the homicide detective, Chuck Lightner, who's helped. All these people that have come forward. In the middle of this, we get delivered to us. It was a minimum of 100,000 pages of documents. have all these that proved not only, not anything stupid, alone, and illegal, who set me up, how he did everything. And after I three, right it, when he finished his three-year investigation, I got called by

a mutual friend and Jerry Langton, the guy who wrote this book on my case. And then it took six to 15 months to write the book. And I'd interviewed with Jerry one to three hours a day, Zoom, every Monday, right for nine months time to get the book written. And then, but when he called me, I mean, nobody's taking my case at all. Because for 34 years, I won't hear anything. And now everybody's contact, yeah, yeah.

I mean, you said, yeah, this is crazy. Come on in, you know. But not getting anybody to listen. 20 minutes after I got up the phone with Jerry Langton, the writer of the book, I get called by Steve Stanieless. He's a former Chippendales dancer, MIPD, also. A very well-known podcaster, movie producer, all this in New York. And he said, hey, anybody doing something in your case, you know?

And there's been a number of crazy just tablet trash documents about my case, books written, there's four or five of them. But none of them, because we stupidly set silent for 34 years. Everybody kept saying, hey, man, it's, ain't, went on parole, waiting your appeals, you know. And only people saying not to my brother and me, because all my lawyers, all these years are saying, don't talk to the media. Yeah, no, all it's going to do is the DA will make more outlandish lies. You know, they're going to believe the DA over, you know, murder and road cop gone bad type thing, you know. And that was the stupidest thing we did. And these guys I mentor to or what have you.

Man, holler, dude. Call every podcast. Because this thing about not only innocent people being in prison, but police officers getting jammed up. I was the first one in the country that's happened to. And there's some of their out. Some are still in. One guy that's been 30 years on something he didn't do, a fourth officer.

He gets out the 24th of this month. I'm going to pick him up. He's in every day on his 30-year sentence. My doing 19 years, four months and four days on a 20, that was unheard of. Everybody gets out the percentage of why it's way before that, you know. Like Derek Holtzclaw, he's at Oklahoma City Austin. He's got 235 years for some ridiculous charge. You know, keep up with him and his family, Brian Franklin, Fort Worth,

Austin, two life sentences, something. He had nothing to do with, you know. They did 22 years. He finally got his case out and they found not guilty. Ray Spencer, there's a bunch of us out there, you know. And we all keep in touch. And that kind of led me into this, someone across these pods. I never knew what podcast was right I missed all those Facebook stuff dude and then I'll start

someone across these podcasts you know and then we're finishing up in the book and Jerry Langton the writer said you need many all these podcasters so I started looking up what a crazy genre this is and people are there since I was a kid I have no idea who you are but police shows and police movies are always at the top of the line people are fascinated with crime and that stuff and then just social media stuff you know so I don't have a grasp on I need to forget out TikTok, man. I'm pretty good at Facebook. Everything else is difficult.

But that leads me to where I am now. And as far as an attorney, I called more than 100 attorneys in Texas. They're like, no way. We're not getting involved in this. We know what happened, but hell no. And then not three months ago, I shot a hell marry out to an attorney in Houston. And I had a history with this attorney. There's no way this person's taking this case.

I called and left a message and bam, she calls you back an hour later. You know, and she's I can't say who she is at this point for a couple more weeks to the public. But I can say this, it's going to drop a nuke right in the middle of this. And this lawyer, very well-known lawyer, the top three enemies in her life

are Cogdell, my lawyer, and Steve Clapper and John Denholm because of the history she's had with them and what they've done to her and whatever. She called me out blue. She said, do you've been out five? I've been out of those five years. she said, why have you not called me? I said, because I was scared of you. And I went and met with her.

And she said, I'm the only one in, say, Texas. Probably anyone who's going to take this case. I'm going to get you out of this. So we're in the process of filing that. Because none of my lords have ever filed just an actual writ. Right. Actual innocence risk saying, you just didn't freaking do it. They've been fighting at each other, trying to scurril over each other.

And, you know, I got caught in the middle. We were doing that, and we were filing a pardon for an actual pardon for the governor, an actual innocence is pardon. See how that goes. Yeah, this is Jerry Langton, and he's a best-selling author. He's written a number of books. And he's, I said, I spent nine months with him. It took 16 months to write it.

It spent nine months every day zooming with him. And it can be purchased through Barnes & Noble, Amazon. And he self-published it. It's Bronx Kill, B-R-O-N-X-K-I-L, or Jerry Langtonton.com. And there's other places you can get it. That's the main ones. And then this lawyer I have, she's a top lawyer, put faith in her, like I said, she's the only one,

the only one that's going to help me. And she's somewhat expensive. So if anybody wants to donate the help on my legal expenses, that would be really appreciated. You have gifts and go. You just go to give sin go and put in this Kent McGowan, K-E-N-T-M-C-G-O-W-E-N. Or you can go to the first responder section and click on that.

And you'll see I'm not the only one. There's a bunch of policemen and there in the same jam and these guys these police officers like in Texas we don't say

cop because that's a derogatory term but it fits these are bad cops that set me up they set up my partner there's at least six other Harris County

deputies that have been to prison or in prison as these same guys and they've done this to civilians too but and one thing before he closed people ask me

man why don't you just drop this you know and just moving on your life and when Jerry Langton when he interviewed Ray Hunt the Houston police officer, director of the union, he was very astute when he, his response, which is in the book. And he said, he said, somebody, an innocent person who's been convicted

and sent the prison, right, told Jerry, he said, there have been so deeply wrong, they never get over it, which is true. I'll get through this. I'll never get over it. You know, it's not just me. It's, I've grandkids now, you know, and people ask me, and I said, there's four reasons. It's one, there's much too justice needs to come to my family over what's happened. Number two, It was both my mom and my dad or deathbeds and made me promise to him that I'll fight this fight until I'll clear my name and the family name. There's no one of my family's even had a parking ticket, you know. And the third reason is my kids grew up with this, the stigma and the tabloid trash, the documentaries and all that, you know. And now my grandkids, my oldest grandson just turned 19, you know.

And then the fourth reason I'm doing this is the bad guys who have done this, they didn't even held accountable. And it's coming to you. It's coming. it. None of them would even talk to Jerry. They're just like, none of those guys. They're not going to incriminate themselves. But they fled the state and they tried to have me killed in prison a number of times. It's a miracle.

It's a miracle that I was not murdered or worse in prison. That's what they thought. They thought I'd never make it. They never thought I'd get out. And they're doing what they can and trying to shut us up. But what are you going to do? You know, I'm right to talk. But that's four reasons for doing this, you know?

After 34 years, people like you have stepped up and said, you know, that's a crazy. It's story needs to be told. It does. I tell you, if this could happen to my family and me, it could happen to you and your family. It can happen to any civilian out there. It could happen to any law enforcement. If you have someone crooked within this system, they're gunning for you. They're going to get you, man.

Going to jail, I don't know anywhere else, but going to jail in Texas, guilt or innocence plays no part going to prison. It's numbers. It's a megalomaniacal bunch of egotistic maniacs running the DA's office, you know. And for the most part, it's not your patrolman on the street. That's some dude, that blue-collar job guy, man. It's these prosecutors that do this. You know, it's these prosecutors that do this to people.

And that's what I'll say. This could happen to me. Everybody out there needs to know it can happen to anybody out there, whether you're guilt or not. Right, wrong, law and order, justice, honor. None of that plays a part in going to prison. They're going to fuck you. They're going to fuck you.

They're going to do it. And they'll get away with it unless you stand up and do something about it. And that's exactly what I'm doing. Hey, you guys, I appreciate to watch and do be a favor. Hit the subscribe button at the bell, so get notified videos just like this. Also, if you want to go and donate to Kent and check out his social medias and go and support him, please go in the description box. We're going to leave all the links there so you can go there.

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