Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Criminal Confessions Car Burglar Tells All

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

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I immediately wanted to know as the mother's main name. What are you doing? You can steal someone's like, now I can get your birth certificate. What are you doing? No, I mean, you could try. I mean, I'll get it all back because I am actually, you know, the only one. Finally moved to Georgia, actually, when I was about 10 with my mom. She found some dude, you know, so we just kind of went up there and checked it out.

I ended up living there for about five years. What about your dad? Where was your dad? He was in prison. Oh, okay. For what? He actually never told me. Are you?

Right. He never told me. He's like, Chase. We need to find out. Well, he's like, he's like, Chase, I'll tell you when you're old enough, you know. And so, yeah, so now he, you know, he passed away when I was 17. Oh, sorry. No, it's okay.

He passed away when I was 17, so I never really got to hear the story from him, you know? Do you don't know what his charges were? Does your mom? It was burglary stuff. Yeah. I think he told me some story about how he robbed somebody for, had a bunch of weed or something. He was running from the police,

and he broke into some house. They were having a, like, it was a bunch of Mexican people, Spanish people, and they were all having a party. He tried to just, like, blend in, you know? Oh, goodness say that was a stretch. He was trying to blend in because, I guess he, you know, he was running from him. And he didn't really blend in so well.

That's all I really heard. You know, my dad, as far as my dad and my uncle go, my great uncle, actually, he was on America's Most Wanted back in the 80s. Yeah. And he had a brother that was in the CIA, supposedly. That's what my dad told me.

And the time when my dad told me this story, I remember I was like 10 years old, I was laying in my bed, and he came out, and he was all paranoid. He's like, oh, you know, they can watch us right now through the blinds and stuff, the satellites. I'm like, what are you talking about? So he told me a little bit about the family history,

and stuff. So I know that people are constantly like just watching me, just checking up on me, make sure I'm doing good. I was actually on a terrorist watch list I found out. Why? I think it was due to the gun charges when I was 16. You know, it's like a red flag. You know, anybody that commits felonies as a juvenile, they tend to, I think, watch them a little bit. So your dad was in prison. So your mom hooked up with a guy. You guys ended up going to Atlanta. I moved up to Georgia, middle school. I guess I was in fifth grade when I moved there. I was a good kid, you know, I did all the things I was supposed to.

I think once I was around seventh grade, middle school came around. I started getting ISS a lot. I started getting in trouble. I was stealing stuff from the stores and stuff like that. I was doing actually one time, one of my friends, he had a younger brother. I don't know if people were going to like this. too much, but he had a younger brother. And so he was one of my good friends.

He's actually Ukrainian. Shout out to Peter, but he, I would take his brother. I'm like, hey, Manu, let's go up to the store, man. I'd put a backpack on him, and I would just dump a bunch of candy and stuff. Like, he had a hoodie on and then a backpack underneath the hoodie. I was in like a seventh grade. I was stealing a bunch of stuff from the gas stations and selling it at school.

But I've always been a businessman ever since I was in elementary school. I don't know if that qualifies really. reselling it. I know, but I've always had the mentality of like trying to, you know, make, get something out of nothing. Right. You know, the little opportunities. I mean, when I was in elementary school, when I was living in Stewart, I would stop cars in the middle of the street. I was like probably six years old, seven years old. Hey, I would stop getting, hey, stop. Do you want a car wash or you want some lemonade? Yes. Okay, pull it over. No, keep it moving. Right. And so that's kind of where I learn, you know, like, hey, you just got to talk to people.

and ask them what they want. And, you know, there's a lot, there's a big market. So, and then middle school, yeah, I started selling candy and stuff like that, you know, like gum for like 50 cents apiece or something. High school, I got expelled. For what? Well, I was always always the businessman, you know, so I just had the wrong product. And I was in 10th grade.

I remember I was in law and justice class. And I just got off the business. bus. I think I sold like a middle school or something, some like a little bit of weed. I think I just gave it to him. Bus driver holds me up. He's like, hey, sit down. He calls the principal. He's like, hey, this and that. Whatever, he told him that he thought I might have had something on me. Before I get to class, I'm like, hey, I go to all my friends. I'm like, hey, can you hold this? Hey, can you hold this? And basically when finally the principal came and got me, 10th grade, And I had a list of people because I would be like, hey, you know, do you want a gram or whatever?

And, you know, the principal, he didn't find any weed or anything on me. But he found the list. Okay. And so he's like, what's this list for? And I said, well, those are video games. People owe me video games, you know, because I had like the G next to it. Right. And he's like, no, I don't think so.

And so he's like, he got the sheriff involved. And then, you know, sheriff, I was like 14 or something, 15. So the sheriff was like, hey, you know, just tell me what's up. So it doesn't have to be like the school sheriff, the school. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the, what do they call those? Resource officer. Yeah, resource officer.

And he was a scary looking guy, man. I wasn't going to lie to him. I was like, look, man, it's not a big deal, right? like I guess it is at that time. I mean, it wasn't legal and stuff. So, yeah, he says, well, just show me where it's at. And, you know, everything is good. So I won't press charges against you.

That's what he told me. Yeah, he's like, show me where it's at and we won't press charges. My mom wasn't there. My parents weren't there. And so I hit it. I had before the principal came and got me that day, I remember I had a one little bag in my pocket still. and I went to the trash can and you know how you put the trash bag over the trash wall. So I hit it right in like the cuff kind of. Right. And so I told him where is that? I went

back to the class. I gave it to him. I didn't want to make a big deal with the dogs and stuff. I knew I was in the wrong, you know, I accepted responsibility. Hey, you're caught, you know? So I told them and then they expelled me. Right. Yeah. Expelled me. I can't believe they lied to you. I know. I can't believe. that. So what happened when you got expelled? Did you get moved to another? What's your mom say? She came in. She was crying. She was hysterical. I mean, she came in and she's like, oh, Chase, I felt so bad. You know, I was like, man, you know, I felt really bad. And then I got home. And my mom and dad were living together when I was in Georgia. Yeah. So he was there. And he actually told me the night before. He says, Chase, I don't think you should bring that to school with you tomorrow, you know, because I would tell my dad everything.

Right. And he's like, I don't think it's a good idea the night before. And so I came home and he's like, I told you. You know, he's like, I told you not to do that. So what do you mean until your dad had gotten out of prison and was now living with you guys again? Yeah, so when I was 10 years old, when I was, we just were getting ready to move to Georgia. He got home. My mom, I think, was like, nah, you know, she wanted to leave.

And she didn't want to be with him, really. She moved to Georgia. They ended up breaking up. My mom and the boyfriend. and ended up breaking up and my mom was like, hey, do you want your dad to? I'm like, of course, I want my dad to come around. And I'm like, yeah. And so they got back together when I was like around 10 because he just got out around

that time. And so. So then what, 10th grade? You're kicked out of school. Do you go to another school? I did. I went to alternative school for all the kids that have gotten in trouble. And so that summer, we actually ended up moving back to Florida.

So, I mean, did you stay out of trouble? Well, the thing was the school that I wanted to go to, they wouldn't accept me. They wouldn't accept me in the school. I guess because I had the previous charges with the, you know, getting expelled from all Barrow County schools. The alternative school you went to wouldn't accept you? No, the alternative school did. They accepted me with arms wide open. All right.

our brethren. Yeah. So the one you wanted to, they said no. Yeah. And so you had no choice but to go to the alternative school. Right. Right. So when I got expelled, I went to the alternative school in Georgia.

And then, you know, my mom was like, hey, we got to get out of here. The things we just, so moved down to Florida. And that summer, I was supposed to be going into 11th grade. And I tried, you know, we tried to get a conference. And after I moved back to Florida, that's the school that wouldn't accept me because it was like, it was a big school, you know, and a bunch of good kids. Where'd you go then? Well, I went to jail. That's basically, I felt like I didn't have an option.

I don't understand. This doesn't make sense. I know. Just because you can't go to the school you want to go or they won't let you into a high school. I just felt like I wasn't accepted. So you said, what, you pulled up to the local county jail and said, look, this is where I belong. No, I didn't actually do that, but I kind of felt like, I felt like I didn't, I didn't belong anywhere. Like, you know, I felt like, you know, no schools want to accept me, you know, and I'm, what, 16 years old.

And, you know, 15, 16 for anybody's life. And it's a big, crucial, crucial time, you know, my sister, she's 16 now. And so I'm making sure to watch her a little bit careful. But, yeah, they wouldn't. accept me there. So I felt like, I was like, well, where am I supposed to go? I mean, if the schools aren't going to accept me, I mean, so I just started getting in trouble. I mean, that's kind of where the mentality kind of stem from. Getting in trouble, how? Well, it was all kind of stuff. I mean, we were just, you know, partying every day. I mean, drinking, hot tub, breaking, going to the pools and the hot tub,

and just, you know, breaking into cars and just trying to make money. Anyway, we, we, we're going to the pools. we could, you know, yeah, I just moved down. So I didn't really know anybody. I did have some friends that I did go to, like, elementary school with. I reached out to them, and that's kind of how, you know, I started coming around and hanging out with everybody. But, yeah, it was tough. I mean, that transition there going to new county, new school, I mean, new people, new mentality. I I mean, the people in Georgia are a lot different than the people in Florida. Right. How so?

I mean, even if you go to like a McDonald's up there, the people in Georgia, they're like, oh, hey, how you doing? Oh, good. Have a good day. You know, you go to the drive-thru down here. They're like, what do you want? 1450. Right.

You know, they're like, I'm like, so it was just a big, I had to get accommodated to to how things were down here. You know, Florida's like its own, its own, it's own, you're talking about making it their, its own country, Texas and Florida. Did you see that movie yet? Which one? Civil War. No, I want to, though. It's interesting. Is it on Netflix?

No, no, it's in theaters. It just came out. Yeah. Just came out. It's pretty good. I've seen Leave the World Behind. No, this is about a civil war. This is about Florida. This is about Texas. Well, no, it's California, Texas, and I want to say Florida, they break off, but,

But Texas and California, like, join up and they start and they basically are attacking the United States. There's a civil war. They take over. And it follows the, what's on screen is they follow some journalists who are trying to make it to Washington before what they call the Western forces make it to Washington. So they can interview the president before the Western forces get to Washington and basically take. make Washington super but it's you know it obviously I would have preferred it be a big budget film and it's not a big budget film you know what I'm saying like that's like it's like you got this is clearly two militaries or multiple militaries fighting so there should have been some

great battle some great this but they didn't have the budget for that so they said here's what we'll do we're going to get we're just going to follow some journalists through small towns that we can easily get the locations cheap. The journalists, the actors cheap. We don't have to have a bunch of people. Wow. And we can, while they're parked waiting overnight or camping overnight, we can hear the battle going on.

We can hear the, periodically they'll drive by a tank or a crashed helicopter. So these are just minor props. You know what I'm saying? So you know there's a battle. You don't see the battle. Yeah, it's a little bit. You don't see the battle for the last probably the last 15 minutes of when, the Western forces enter Washington and take the capital, but then they also go to the White House

and they, you know, they hit the White House. So, but super interesting. The problem is you never really know why. You never really get a firm grasp of what the rift was, why these two states seceded from the, the union. And what happened? But you don't know. You don't know who the, who The conservatives and the liberals are. You don't know. Are the liberals the guys in the White House? Is that the United States? You never get a firm grasp of who it is.

Sounds like a good movie. I've been wanting to see it. Yeah, it's super cool. Yeah, no. I think time right now with everything, like, there's a lot of that. I mean. Oh, yeah, yeah. And listen, now on YouTube, you can spend a whole day just watching stuff.

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Yeah. That there's actually a guy that 10 years ago, he's like a historian. Yeah. And he was a kid. He came out with a video over, I think it was over 10 years ago. About what would happen if you took the same states,

right now you refought the Civil War who would win. And he does a whole, it's like a fucking 30, 45, minute conversation. Yeah. I mean, not conversation. It's a 30, 45 minute video where he breaks down,

you know, what, why, you know, how it would, how it would play out, you know, he can't guarantee it,

but he's like, assuming there's no nuclear weapons, assuming this, assume, you know, he's like, and there was actually a fight based on resources and military. So assume that these,

that the Confederate states used their national guard, and the United States use their national guards, who ends up winning that fight? And he breaks it down over the course of 30, 45 minutes, and I mean, it's great. So he reposted it. Yeah.

He just kind of did a little monologue at the beginning. Like, listen, I did this 10 years ago, and people thought, you're crazy, that would never happen. He's like, it's never been a better video than it is right now. I'm reposting it. He said, based on blah, blah, blah, blah. He reposts the whole thing. And you listen to it, you're just like, wow.

And he even explains, he's like, if it, 10 years ago, if you thought the numbers were right, they're even more skewed now. So he starts explaining why it's even, he was even more right 10 years ago. So anyway. Yeah, it's interesting to see. I mean, who would actually, how that would come about. I mean, it's not too far off. Yeah, that's more the, that's more of what, you know, what is a catalyst that I was, you know, which he doesn't really, he kind of explains the landscape. but he never explains like you know what's the first battle what would be the first because of course

nobody can pinpoint that so he just says look at some point if you realize that here's how the lines are drawn and they had to fight what would happen and it's so it's it's so it's super interesting man it's it's worth it's worth listening to yeah no definitely i know there's i could spend hours out there on that stuff too it's really addicting like watching all this stuff because everybody wants to know i get just talking about it yeah no it's just talking about it it is it's exciting because you never know. I mean, I always say like every day you wake up and you open your eyes, you're in a new, new world, right? Because while you were sleeping, the economy was continuing. Everybody, there was other people still working on things. Things were progressing. Yeah, it might

only progress five, six, seven, eight hours. But still, every time you go to sleep and you wake up, it's a new world, you know, and it's not like a. Well, it's kind of it's, it's, it's being reported on 24 hours a day, every single minute of every single day, every week, of every month. Things are constantly changing. I know. When I grew up, you know, you figured out what was going on when the newspaper came out or at the 6 o'clock or 11 o'clock news. That's it. Yeah.

You didn't know what happened all day. You certainly didn't know what happened immediately. Like if something happens within minutes, somebody's making videos, somebody's this. It would be you get the newspaper and they would be investing in a story for three weeks that they're now telling you about something that happened three, four weeks ago or two days ago or seven days ago. nothing's coming out necessarily the next day even. Yeah, exactly. It's days later, you know, last Monday, or unless it's a police report where the police are like, they arrested someone for a carjacking or a home invasion and they report it.

And then you get 100 words, which basically the cops wrote. So if it's an actual report on something that's happening that's serious, it takes time. And now you have these citizen journalists and you're probably getting, in some cases, you're getting obviously skewed information from citizen journalists. But in some cases, you're getting more of the truth. Details, yeah. Well, I'm saying a more accurate version because if you're going to CNN, they're shifting it one way.

If you go to Fox News, they're shifting it one way, you know? They got an agenda. Right. Yeah. No, it's funny you talk about them because I was actually doing a meeting with Fox the other day. They wanted to make me the weather person, I mean, my AC company, make it the accredited AC weather whatever you know I've done commercials yeah I've done commercials with CBS or yeah CBS Fox I've worked with them I've worked with NBC too they've done an interview with me

and wink news also just about AC you know the supply chain crisis and everything but yeah there's a couple of journalists that work with me and they they're great I mean they work they do you know everything they say they're going to do. But no, it's a crazy world. I mean, it's talking about how fast things come out and change. I remember when Kobe Bryant, when he actually got in that helicopter accident, I mean, I was at the beach. And I know this is kind of irrelevant, but I was at the beach and I got a thing.

It was like one minute ago. It just happened. Right. I was like one of the first people to know, I think. I mean, I wasn't there to like, I'm not going to repost stuff. Like, oh, guess what happened? You know, I'm not a news channel or anything. But yeah, I thought it was interesting.

I'm like, huh, and I found out like immediately off the Twitter or something, you know, they send you the information. But yeah, it's just, I think we have too much information. Right. I think that's the problem is like we have too much information. And, you know, we're not designed. Like, we're already starting to become cyborgs. You know, we already have an online version of ourselves. Right.

I heard someone say that. I thought it was pretty accurate. Well, Elon Musk, they just did that thing with the neural link where they put it in the guy's skull. and he can think about things and move things. That's, yeah, that's a little bit too much for me. 50, what, 40 years from now, 30 years from now, 40 years from now. Right, everyone will have it. Yeah.

I know. How do people live without this? It's like how did I live without my cell phone before? You know, people will say, how did I live without my neural link? I would love to have a flip phone. I would love it. But there's no way I can run a business off a flip phone. Right.

You know, they set those things up, so they're going to be used. for generations. I mean, yeah, big, big companies, you know, have all that data on you. They know you better than you know yourself. Yeah, I always talk about that, the one where the, um, the girl,

there was a, a girl, like a whatever, let's say a teenager living at home with her parents' house. She started getting stuff saying, you know, for like, you know,

like a baby carriages or, you know, baby, whatever, you know, milk, and stuff. And she's like, why am I? I keep getting all these ads for baby stuff.

Yeah, they were targeting for baby stuff. And what had happened was based on her, the things she had been buying on Amazon, they had determined she was pregnant. And then, so of course, a month and a half or two months later, she takes a pregnancy test and finds out she's pregnant. And it was because of foods she was buying, things, you know, that she was gaining weight. She had bought a larger dress size, larger than. this, got me, like there were little, all kinds of little things that she had done, just minor

things that made the algorithm realize, like, I think she's pregnant, you know, not that it thinks she's pregnant, but it's like based on your purchasing, your purchases and the food you're buying, just people buy these items just before they start buying these items. So it started recommending these items. Not that it's thinking, oh, she's pregnant, but it knows, hey, in the future, you're going to want this and this and this, so it starts targeting you for that. Yeah. And so she, she realized at that point, like, holy shit, Amazon knew. Before she did. Before I knew I was pregnant. Wow. I haven't heard that. That's, that's interesting. I think it's interesting. It is interesting. I mean, you know, when you do it whenever you buy anything, you know,

like I went to buy these phone things. Yeah. On Amazon. And it's telling me, you know, hey, you might also want these. Guys that bought that bought this and this and this, you're also going to need this. And it starts, you know, it's showing you all this stuff. It's like, God, I bought one product. Yeah. It's even like that with AC. too when I go to like purchase an AC unit through carrier that's my I'm a carrier authorized dealer so I sell a lot of their product but um they'll do that oh you bought a new condenser with an air handler well you need some tie downs and float switch and thermostat yeah the algorithm I mean pretty soon it's I don't know what's going to happen I mean they're they're doing indie cars right now that are racing

themselves I was watching a thing today where they were they had this these indie cars or maybe the Formula One. I don't really know the difference. The one where it's just the driver and the four wheels. Like, what is that? Is that? I'm not big on that stuff either. I don't know.

I think it's Formula One, though. Yeah. So they had built it out so it could drive itself completely by itself. You're just watching. They just turn it on and wha-w-m! And they start going. What's the fun of that? I mean, I guess it's safer.

I guess you're, well, you're still watching the race. Which one of these cars is going to win? It's like the new horses. I guess, but I was just thinking like that's insane. Like you're telling me that the race cars are going to race themselves. But anyway, so high school. Yeah. So you started doing what?

So high school. Not working out. Yeah, no, I wasn't working out. I mean, high school wasn't working out. Why did you just go to another school? One of these schools is going to accept you. They have an alternative school down here. Yeah.

I think the problem was before we even got that far, I was already, I had detectives coming to my house and you know just about a string of you know string of burglaries that happened in this neighborhood that you had nothing to do with well okay so what happened see so i remember one time and this was over a couple months probably six months i mean all this was going on and um detectives would show up you know from people that i was with they would tell like oh yeah i was with chase you know because they would get caught and then you know i wouldn't get caught they really never found me. I wouldn't make sure I was... Let's go back. Yeah, yeah.

How, those houses didn't fertilize themselves. No, the cars. You were there. Or the cars. Yeah. Obviously, you were there. So what, what happened? How did that, how did you come to the conclusion, hey, I need to go ahead and start, you know, grabbing cars? It was, one of my friends showed me out in Okachobi. One of my, you know, I was got there. My, uh, it's rough. Yeah, Okachobi. My, uh, my wife's from a Okachovia. Really? Yeah, it's no picnic. Yeah, it's no picnic out there.

Very backwards. A lot of pickup trucks. Yeah, so I, um, my dad, he had a bunch of friends out there, you know, they kind of grew up out there. So he had kids. I mean, I've known these guys since I was in diapers, you know? And, uh, so I'd go out there, hang out with them and it was always a big party over there, you know?

So, uh, no story. No good story starts off with, you know, I knew a guy in Okachovie. At that point, it's like, okay, so it's somebody's ending up in prison. Right. Yeah. It gets pretty tough out there. But so, I mean, I was hanging out with them and they were kind of showing me. Oh, I'd do this. So I would take it. I'd bring it back to Jupiter, you know, because that's where I was living. I was hanging out with those guys out there. They were showing you what? No, they were, because I would hang out with them and we'd like, watch this. You know, they'd go run into a car. They'd go run over to a car and just check and see if it's open. And if it's locked, you know, they'd just keep moving. But they'd find one that was unlocked. and when it was unlocked, I mean, they would just ransack, whatever, they could find, sunglasses, change, it doesn't matter, you know, anything that had some sort of value to it,

they would take it, try to get rid of it somehow. I mean, I probably got my mom like 10 new pairs of sunglasses. I'm like, Mom, I love you so much, you know. I got these new ones for you. I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to make you proud of me. But things worked out good. But so yeah, they were a little bit of an influence. They were kind of showing me, you know, the ropes, I guess you would say.

So I would go back to, you know, where I lived in Pummish Gardens, Jupiter area. And I'd be like, hey, listen, guys, like, you know, they're around playing a bunch of video games all day, like asking their mom for money and stuff. I'm like, dude, look, I think it was really, they said I was the mastermind behind it that I did get in trouble. All the other guys didn't get in trouble. they got off with probation or something. I had a public defender. But before we get there, I would, I guess we would be like drunk.

You know, we'd be all just, and we'd be like, oh, look, that car, look. And we'd try to just open to see if it was unlocked. If it wasn't unlocked, if we've seen something in there, though, they really wanted. It just smashed the window. Right. You know, smash the window. Alarms go off. It doesn't matter.

So that's kind of That's kind of the big thing So one time though We were We were doing that And this like I said It was a span of six months And one time

We found some guns in there And where? In a car? Yeah, a car We found a pistol on a car A shotgun And like two rifles That were imported from like Finland

They had like $1,000 scopes on them and stuff Could you see him when you saw the car? No. No, you just... Yeah, because they were sitting... And come to find out, this guy was like a hunter. He would take kids with, like, cancer patient kids and go take him hunting for the first time.

Of course, you know. My God. Jeez. You bastard. Yeah. And he was in the courtroom on the phone, like, you know, making me look, like, just... I was like, I didn't know. Right.

I just... It was our thing. We would just go around and whoever left their car unlocked. I mean, we would go to different neighborhoods. I mean, one time, one time we would, we would go to, you know, this neighborhood this time. We'd go like 30 miles this way. Well, all the, you know, the rich people lived. Right.

And that was kind of just the thing we would do just to have some money to, I guess, beer money, beer money and, you know, pizza, whatever we, you know, we weren't saving it for our college education. There wasn't, there wasn't much really that we took anyways. I mean, those guns were probably the most important, biggest thing that... What'd you do with the guns? You guys, you sold them or just, you guys just all grabbed one and whatever? Well, it's funny, actually. I mean, it's not funny.

But that night, we took, we had probably four guns on us that were stolen. It was one night, we were all walking down the, in Abacoa down the sidewalk. We all had a, one of them had a shotgun. The other guy had a rifle. And we were just walking down the street with this. I mean, we weren't, we didn't have them holstered or anything. We were just like, and if we see a car, we just throw them on the ground.

That's a bad eye. Yeah. But I remember telling the detective because they found they were getting me. They were like, they wanted me to, I said, you know what? I said, yeah, I took the guns. And I was walking on the sidewalk. I said, I felt like Rambo walking down there. And they were like, yeah, we're definitely going to be watching him.

But yeah, so we would take them anything, really. I mean, if it was any kind of goods, but obviously guns are a little bit more value than sunglasses or GPS systems or something. So what did you do with those? guns you guys sell them so yeah we we would that was our plan we wanted to sell them um so we were kind of like all right who was going to buy these you know who could we trust you know you can't trust nobody right but so you know we came along somebody that he was a drug dealer you know and so we thought he was like okay well he he's not going to say anything you know so we brought him over to

the house we showed him our display and uh he he he's like, yeah, I think he bought a pistol. I bought the pistol. I couldn't get rid of the rifles in the shotgun. I wanted too much money for him. But, yeah, he bought that. The guy bought the pistol from us. And then I think it was like a couple months later, maybe a month later,

he got his house raided by the cops and they found the pistol. They knew it was stolen. They asked him, hey, where'd you get it? and I don't think he hesitated to tell him where he got it from. And he knew you guys? Yeah, he knows. So it was not like you knew. It was like a friend of a friend.

He knew exactly who you are. Yeah, he knew exactly who we were. Yeah. Although I did try to get rid of him with my dad, too. You know, he's not here anymore so I could talk about it. But I remember one night, I'm like, dad. And I'm like, listen, I got to get rid of these guns, man. And he was like, I had him in a trash bag underneath the bed.

and he's like well let me see him so i remember going with him we'd load him up in the car and we went to like uh some bar down in boighton i think and uh he's like oh don't worry you know just sit in the car and so this big this big swole black dude gets in the truck gets in the car and he's like i'm like dang i'm like dad you know him i'm like that's cool like you know i didn't it looked like uh like i don't know like just someone you felt safe with or something i don't know i was like cool you know So I was showing them. I was in the back seat and I was showing them. I was like, look, whatever.

So I'm not too sure on what happened. But, yeah, we would take those guns and we would try to get rid of them. You know, we didn't have a job. So the guy didn't want to buy him? I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so. But I think, I don't know whatever happened to him before my dad died.

He's told me that I think they went to Mexico somewhere. Okay. So maybe those guys got him down there somewhere. But, yeah. We would take them and try to sell them. We didn't have a job. You know, we were just trying. We were just some kids just trying to.

So what happened with the guy got, the guy, his house got raided? And the cops obviously come to you. Yeah. So they came to us. And, you know, when the cops come, they don't ever tell you the exact, like, oh, we're here because of this. So it was a very beat around the bush type of thing. Would they knock on the door lightly and asked you to please come down to the police station? No, they would actually, they sent a detective over to my house.

and he came inside. He's like, hey, can we talk to you guys for a minute? And my mom, you know, my mom, she's like, yeah, of course, you know, go ahead. And so we sat down and he was telling me basically, hey, you know, all these guys are telling on you. We know that you got guns and this and that. And, you know, your friend already told on you. I think I had like three people that were with me. We were doing this together.

And he's like, you know, your friends are already told on you and this and that. I'm like, well, whatever. So he would come by like periodically, just I don't even know how or why or thinking back on it. I'm like, you know, I've never. Like if he had something, why wouldn't he just arrest you? Exactly. Right. Yeah.

And that's the part I didn't understand. I was, I was young, 16. And he was just trying to build a case, you know, because they knew that I was, I was affiliated and I was responsible for it. And, you know, so they were just slowly trying to be to, you know. build this case up against me. I remember one time real quick, I was just a story. One time we were, we were, I was car hopping. That's what they call it. Right. Car hopping. And, um, I was with somebody new that I never really, we never did this before together. But he seemed like he was cool, you know, like I could trust him or whatever. And this was the old chase, you know, this,

I'm nothing like this now, you know, like, I'm young. I don't know what that, I don't even know what is anything, you know, like, um, and so I, he's like, yeah, man, let's go. Da, da, da, da. And so we go, and I think we were drinking, we got some Budwisers, you know, before his mom bought us some Budweiser out. I was more of a Bud Light Platinum kind of guy. But, uh, but I mean, now, anyways, uh, yeah, that's probably not, but, um, yeah, that was 10 years ago. So we, you know, we, you know, we would, you know, we would, drink and then we'd be like all right let's go so i think it was like our first 10 minutes we were out i come around i just got out of a car i'm looking through a bunch of mail trying to find because sometimes

people will leave their money in the mail you know and this and i'm walking around the corner and i see nothing but red and blue lights and i'm like oh shit and i see him they got him bent over the hood of the car in handcuffs and i'm like nope so i just took off running took off running down abacoa golf course down there and i hid in these bushes right i hit in these bushes and i remember hiding there and i was on facebook because i was just trying to kill some time um i was on facebook and people were posting like why are all these cops and abacoa why are they what's going on and jupiter like there's cops everywhere and i'm just like oh my god this isn't good um and so I get a phone call from my mom, right? Because I just...

I thought you were going to say from your buddy saying, hey, buddy, where you are? Yeah, right. Yeah, no, he did it better than that. He just told him straight out, yeah, and Jay's Gwarlinghouse. So I get a phone call from my mom, and I answer it thinking it's my mom, and hey, this is detective so-and-so with Jupiter, da-da-da, police, and I'm like, phone call off my mom's phone, because So I knew instantly, I was like, oh, he told him who I was because how would they get to my mom? Right. And I was like, I said, officer, what's going on? You know, I'm at my friend's house just hanging out.

What's going on? And he's like, well, we want to speak to you. I think, you know, you're involved with some stuff. And I said, okay, sure, where are you at? I mean, what's going on? And so I'm on the phone with him. And as I'm on the phone with him, I have my pockets fulled up with stolen merchandise. All kind of stuff.

And I'm just digging a hole basically in the ground next to me so I can come back later. I'm emptying everything into like a dogwood with his bone, you know? And so I'm not bragging about this stuff at all either. I just wanted to tell everybody the story of, you know, how all this transpired. And all of this is wrong. And Chase feels very bad about it. Absolutely. He's not the same person.

He's learned his lesson. Absolutely. Yeah. Got it. Yeah, check. But so I'm, I'm emptying on my pockets. And my plan is to just, you know. I was going to say, by the way, there will still be at least 20 pricks in the comment section that are going to say,

fucker, he's bragging about this. He's bragging. So I'm just saying, it doesn't matter what you say or how you say it. There will always be some asshole in the comment section. So the best bet is to just say it however you want. Because listen, if it were up to those people in the comment section, I would cry and beg for forgiveness throughout my entire story. Right.

And because I'm done with that. Yeah. And it was so long ago and I paid my debt and I'm done and I'm just telling the stories. That's it. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Because that's really, I mean, you're just, who are you to judge me on the things I've done?

You haven't done any. I mean, maybe you haven't gotten caught for the things of you. done but or maybe you just had a better fucking upbringing a better life or maybe you were just genetically blessed and things just went better for you exactly maybe you had a horrible decision and made better decisions yeah good for you right good for you yeah keep just watched and listen and there's other shit on youtube bro yeah yeah there's millions of channels yeah channels no so yeah I know there's always that guy but hopefully you know um so yeah we were so I'm hiding all this stuff

the hole. You got your stuff. And I'm thinking, I'm like, all right, how am I going to do this? So I call my dad, right? I'm like, dad, come pick me up. And so he gets in his car to come pick me up and sheriff's got behind him or following him. So he's like, this is like, this is like. Yeah. I mean, I felt, I thought too. So the guy on the phone, he's like, if you don't. This is also a pretty ritzy area which you're in, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't have a lot to do. Right. Exactly. Yeah. There's only kids like me come around every once in a while. So.

They definitely want to make the example, you know, and they did. But, yeah, I called my dad, and they're like, he's like, no, Chase, I can't come get you. There's two sheriffs behind me. And I said, okay, well, all right, no problem. So I'm like, all right, I'm going to run to my friend's house because he's right down the street. So I jump out of the bushes. I'm still on the phone with the officer. I got him on mute.

He's telling me, Chase, if you don't tell me where you're at, we're going to send the helicopters and the dogs for you. And I said, I was like, well, no, I'm at my friend's house. Yeah, right. What are you talking about? They're ready to display their assets. We're calling the National Guard. Right. What are you doing, bro?

Yeah, I didn't hurt nobody. You're going to pick me up, I promise. Yeah, exactly. I'm right here. What's going on? I'm on the phone with you. And so I jump out of the bushes and I'm running. I got him on mute so he doesn't hear me running.

And I'm running down the street and there's cops going. I know there's going to be a cop that's seen me because it was just flooded with the police. and so finally when I seen one that was coming, I just acted like, he pulled me over. He's like, what are you doing? I said, oh, I'm on the phone with the sheriff right now. He wants me to meet him and he wants to talk to me. So I'm actually walking on my way back to the house so I can talk to him.

I just left my friend's house. And they're like, okay, so they detained me and they searched me. I didn't have anything on me. they knew they knew and but so they called my mom my mom came and picked me up but I was a juvenile they had no probable cause evidence nothing so I mean right you call that guy yeah like I don't have anything on me right like I was I was I with him you know I saw him did he go break you know we talked he went broke into a fucking car yeah why are we talking right and that's the thing I was like yeah we hung out earlier but he went on his own way and you know when you're young you just don't

process all that. I think you're just emotional or something. But yeah, I mean, he's like, okay, well, you know, put me in the back of the cop car and just detained me for a little while. And they didn't, they couldn't do anything. So they let me go. And what's your mom say? She was just like, she, you know, she's just like Chase. Like, what's your dad say? I know your dad said. Your dad said, your dad said, nice. I like, I like how you're doing, how you're working. Yeah, he's like, you're making the family proud. Like where your head's at. Yeah, like where your heads at.

Wigs of stuff. Right, yeah. And we actually went back, me and my dad, went back later and got all the stuff. Yeah, that's it. Or it wasn't that. It was like a couple of days later. But they had no idea that I was in the bushes, you know, hiding from them the whole time. And that was one of the times where it was a pretty close call.

And I do not miss that for anything, man. I mean, that. Right. I mean, what I'm doing now is just, it's very stressful. and stuff, but I think anyone out there that thinks that stealing from people and robbing stuff, it's just, it's only a matter of time, right? Right. Before you actually get caught.

I mean, these people get paid by the government to, you know, sit there and make sure that this doesn't happen. I mean, listen, I, every, every insurance claim I've ever had, I've made money. Yeah. I always jack up the claim. always you know they got two laptops they got a flat screen right they got i always so if they broke in and they actually grabbed like you know a cell phone doesn't matter there's still two laptops they got there's so to me i don't mind a good burglary coming home and i can call i can call the cops i can go

as long as i have my homeowners or your car insurance somebody knocks the window out you can say hey i need a report they had my laptop was in there yep i had a printer you had a printer in your car I had a printer in my car. I have a receipt for the printer. Happens to still be in my house. But they got this, they got this. Like, I keep all my receipts. Yeah.

Yeah, I just got hit. I got clipped. They got me. It happens. Yeah, it happens. Especially, I mean, you got to make it worth it. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's not, yeah. And cell phones. I mean, and sunglasses and change. I mean, that's not. Sunglasses and change in, in my case, turns into laptops. Yeah. A computer. They got a, they got a pistol.

They got some cash. What's the top? I can claim for cash, $500. They got $500 in cash. They got, I mean, you know, you got to know what you're doing. Like, I'm paying my premiums. Yeah. So I...

That's the thing with the insurance, man. I mean, the insurance... And I feel bad about that, too, by the way. Well, yeah. Just like you feel bad. Right. I feel bad. That's wrong.

Yeah, it's wrong. And, you know, you learn. But it's like we're humans at the end of the day. You know, and we have to learn. And sometimes we have to learn the hard way. There's not someone there saying, you know, if you did this, this was going to happen. You know, we're just trying to figure it out for ourselves, right? Well, I'm thinking your dad didn't do a lot of that. Yeah, well, he wasn't around.

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No, he probably wasn't a good. He was a good dad. I mean, I love my dad. He was great. He showed me how to be a man, you know, like how to stick up for yourself and you just don't take, you know. But that other side of it is, you know, he had a criminal enterprise, you know, my family, his uncle still in prison now.

And just he would tell me stories and story. I mean, when he was, he was like, both my dad and my uncle, I think they dropped out elementary school. They didn't even go to school. You know, they didn't. Where's your uncle? He's in Zephyr Hills right now, correctional. Yeah. Yeah.

My God. He's been in there since I got out, actually, 2014. And, I mean, he's probably been inside longer than he has been outside, you know. Jeez. Yeah. Yeah, I went to go visit him probably a few months ago, me and my cousin. And, you know, he's got tattoos. He's always had tattoos of head to toe.

Well, he only, he's got the left side of his body tatted because my dad was left-handed. That's what he says. He's like, I just did the left side because he's got G-house on the back of his head. He's got G. I mean, he's bald head. I mean, he'd be a great bodyguard for me when he gets out, you know. God. But, yeah, it's, um, he, my dad, he tried his best.

He, he did what he knew how to do. I think, you know, he tried his best. He really didn't want me to go down that path, and he's seen me starting to go down it. And I think he felt very, he felt really bad about it. And I think that has something to do with why he passed away, I think, because he died a day before my 17th birthday,

and they never found his body. Yeah. What? Yeah. How'd that happen? What do you mean? Well, Andrew Carnegie Hero Fund Commission, they gave me an award for you know they give out like one a year around the country he saved two little

girls out of the Palm Beach inlet so it was him and his friends and uh the girls got caught and they were playing on the rocks or something they got caught in the water and so he jumps in to save him him and his other friend jumps in to save him and so they got the girls and everything they got them on the boat but for some reason nobody grabbed my dad you know and they just like washed them drown basically I think, you know, I was like, I was in juvie at the time. What was, is this like a rip current? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, he got caught in the rip current. That's what they say. But I just had somebody. Colby, you know what a rip current is? Okay, fine. Colby knows with that. Yeah. And so, actually, I had a missing person unit detective called me like a month ago about my dad.

Yeah, 10 years ago this happened. I mean, they never found his body. And they were asking me questions like, you know, because they were just very like what happened like is for the longest time i thought he just planned this yeah i'm i was thinking i thought he seems as possible there was an insurance uh this insurance thing i don't know how those little girls you know maybe was well one of them had the same birthday as him they were young they were like they were his friend's daughters so they were how convenient listen what's your dad's first name edward listen edward they call him butch i'm gonna listen

and Bush, I'm going to throw my daughters in this rip current. We're going to have you swim in and sit, like, that's a pretty big. Well, those guys are from Okachobi, too. That's the guys. They'll throw their kids in it. For a good insurance job, sweetie, you just swim as good. Bush is going to come. He's going to get you.

I know. So I was, you know, I was in juvie at the time. And I'm thinking, I'm like, no, my dad planned this. Like, he just wanted me to get that $2,500 from Andrew Carnegie and the full ride scholarship. You know, that was his way of helping. And I didn't have closure for a long time. I still don't. I'm like, what the heck happened out there that day, you know?

And, yeah, it changed my life after that. I mean, I was 17, a day before my 17th birthday. The not finding his body would fuck with me for a long. That would bother me. That would bother me. Yeah. Because I would, you're right, I could see like, you just never. Yeah.

Yeah. And he was a very secretive kind of guy. Like he wouldn't tell me why he went to prison, you know, for the longest time. Right. He wouldn't tell me anything. I'd ask him, come on, dad, you know, I'm 15 now. Tell me. Was it state prison?

Florida state prison? Oh, yeah. Where was he arrested? See, he would hang around Lake Worth area, Lake Worth. We'll order the Freedom of Information Act. We're going to find out. Yeah, find out. Because I really don't know, like, everything.

But I know back in the 80s and stuff, they were, you know, doing a lot of, before video cameras and before all this technology. So the reason why my great uncle was on America's Most Wanted is because he's what you call old day cowboy. He would just run inside these trap houses where they're selling all these drugs. He would shoot everybody. He'd kill everyone. Yeah. He would shoot everyone, kill them all and take all the drugs and sell them for himself. I guess that was what they did back in the day.

You know, and so- Well, I'm not like you're shooting veterans. You're not like these are outstanding citizens. I met that guy one time. I met that dude one time with my dad in Macon, Georgia. We went to Macon to go see him. He had like 10 dogs in the house. He was on oxygen.

He had open heart surgery like three times. Ten dogs to the house that he could barely even walk. And I was like, what the heck is this guy got going on, you know? And he was actually married to a federal agent or something. I don't want to say their name because I think there's still, she's still working for the department or some kind of agency. But yeah, very, very interesting. everybody likes a bad boy yeah they do don't they i know and sometimes it's just i guess that's all they

knew that's all they knew how to do that was in the family that's what they did like this is what you do man you know right go to college what you're gonna go to college for what you know so what what happens so back back to your story yeah what what happened with um you the cops were coming by they couldn't find anything yeah and so what you said you know what i'm i'm re-enrolling in high school i'm I'm putting this behind me. I'm going to clean up my act. And no? No, not really.

No, it was more of a game at that point. Right. I was like, oh, go, let's see how far this can go. Like, you know, I was like, oh, yeah, you can't find me here. You can't get this. And it was, I had that mentality of just like, you know, we'll see what you got, what you're going to do. I really wanted to find out what was going to happen. Right.

You're going to find out. Yeah, that was my thing. I wanted to know because it was like prison was a thing in my family. every garling house went to prison. Right. You know, and it was like kind of, I felt like I had to go,

you know, just because it was... Ridiculous. What are you doing? I know. I know. Yeah. And then you get there,

you're like, listen, I'm... Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. And see, I was 16 at the time, so they,

I didn't actually go to a prison. I was at a level six program. Right. Like, level eight time. Well, what, what happened? Like,

how, how does, what's the next thing that happens? Yeah. So, so, so we're running around going crazy, breaking in everyone's cars. And I think the first thing that really happened

was they brought us in, well, I'll tell you what happened. This is what changed everything. Because I thought everything was good. I thought, oh, you know, just hanging out, whatever. One day, I'm playing video games with my friend, Louis. He's been around forever. That's my, we actually, our parents went to high school together. When I moved to Georgia, he was living there. And his mom and my mom went to high school in Jupiter together. So we were like, we were homies, you know, me and Louis. But we wouldn't, we wouldn't do anything bad like that.

We would just hang out, like go to the mall, whatever. So one day we're playing video games basketball, 2K, 12 or whatever. And my aunt, she's at the house over in Pond. She's the townhouse. She's outside smoking a cigarette. She comes in and she's like, oh, Chase, there's a lot of police out there. You know, they're like, she's like,

oh, I think they're coming for you, just playing around. Right. She's like, oh, yeah, they're coming for you because she'd always mess with me like that. Like, she'd see something ugly on TV and she'd be like, Chase, what are you doing up there? You know, she's... And she was just playing around

and I'm like, ah, yeah, right. Oh, actually, you know, and I'd look outside and there's like, Palm Beach County. Sheriff, Jupiter, just every, there was probably 30 car, cop cars, just, too, just coming in hot. SWAT team truck at the front of the neighborhood. I mean, I was like, okay, I don't think this is for anyone else. Right.

You know, I think they're coming for me. And so the guy, I look at my, they're all in formation, like an army formation outside. One guy's at the bottom of the stairs. One guy's like 10 feet away from everyone. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And that's, so I'm like, oh, uh-oh, they must have some sort of something, you know, because they're coming to get me. So they knock on the door.

My mom answers, I come to the door. I'm like, hey, what's going on, man? You know, he's like, Chase, he's like, come out here and step outside with us, please. So I go out there. I'm just playing dumb. I'm like, what are you guys doing? Right. And he's like, do you have any guns inside the house?

And I said, no, I don't have any gun. And I didn't. And he's like, okay, well, we're going to search it. I guess he got a warrant. That's probably what happened. And they're like, we're going to search it. And so they searched it. They didn't find anything.

They said, well, do you have anything you'd like to tell us? You know? And I said, no. I was 16. I said, I have the right to remain silent, right? And he's like, you sure do. And he's like, now you're going to jail. Right.

And my mom's in the background. She's crying. She's like, Chase, just tell him. Just tell him. Tell them, you know. You don't even know why I'm here. What am I telling them? I know.

You tell them, you know what I'm not. I'm like, mom, what do you? She's over there crying hysterically. Just please just tell them. So I go down to the police station. They went to the, I went to the Jupiter police station. They held me there for like, you know, six hours or something. And then I think they got the confession out of me there.

That's when I lost it. I just, because they were stringing me. Like, you know, they know how to get that out of you. Right. They get you very like, I don't know, I can't even explain it, but he got me so irritated that I was just like, you think that you're so big and powerful. I was like, dude, I'm going to tell you right now. That's when I told him, I said, I did do it.

You're right. I was like, you're right. What is it that they had you? They were, were, was it the guns? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's like, oh, we got a video you here, a picture you here, smashing this window and this and that.

And I said, that's not me. That's not me. And he's like, well, you know, they basically had the case. I remember speaking to my lawyer after this incident, my public defender. And she's like, yeah, Chase, you just kind of like told him everything in the interview. And I was like, I didn't even care. I kind of wanted to go. I wanted to see how it was.

I was like, this is what all the tough guys do, right? That's what I thought. I was like, I'm tough. You know? I was like, I'm tough. I'm going to see what I'll tell them right now. I'm not going to lie to you. You know, I didn't even care.

I was like, look. I said, yeah. I took the route for everyone. I was like, look, I was the mastermind. It's all my fault, you know, put me away for a long time. What happened with the guns? Didn't you, what about, was that you called your dad? Yeah.

So it was like the night before. Oh, okay. Yeah, it was something like that. And he took him. I think that's the night we went to the bar and everything, tried to get rid of him. But he had him, and I found out that. We weren't, were we talking, did we talk about that on the podcast? Okay, so the night before you had told your dad, like, I got to get rid of.

of these guns. I got to get rid of these. And so your dad said, well, let me see what I can do. And he took them. Right. That's why they didn't find them. Exactly. Right. And so they asked you to, like, can you find, can you get us the guns? And you said, you said, yeah, you called your dad. Yeah. I called my dad, you know, thinking, I'm trusting the police that they're telling me the truth. Right. My dad knew the deal. He's like, you know, he's like, Chase, I don't know what you're talking about, you know. And I knew that he was a convicted felon. And if he got charged with a gun charge he was just going to be out right and Palm Beach County they don't play about the guns and stuff so he was just like and I didn't even want to talk I didn't feel comfortable

I knew kind of at that point like I'm like I really right you know but so I didn't want anybody else to get in trouble man I really didn't I didn't want my dad to get I was just like look officer just charge me with it don't bring everyone else into this stuff this is my you know like I influence they said I was the mastermind right you know we we all have options, you know, it's not like I forced these kids to, because there was other kids with me that were breaking into cars and stuff. And, you know, they had free will, but they, they liked the thrill of it too at the time.

And, you know, we had girls with us and we were partying all the time, you know, just doing whatever, man. It didn't, you know. So what happened when, like, were you, did they let you out on bond? Yeah, so they actually let me sit on house arrest and fight this whole thing. So I sat on house arrest. So I, after the, they brought me to the sheriff's, Jupiter Police Department, they sent me to the Jack. That's what they call it Jack.

It's for all the juveniles. It's like the tent is what they call, 45th Street. Right. And West Palm Beach, 45th Street. And that's where all the kids sit. So I was in there, me and my codifference, one other, one other kid that was with me. He actually, we kind of both went to, went to do this together. everybody else kind of got a lawyer.

He was writing it out with me, I guess you could say. Right. And so we went to the tent, sat there for a couple days. I remember a guy, because I'm like, remember, I'm 16 at the time. And this guy comes to me, and he's like, Chase, you know, they have a meeting with you. Chase, you know, you're looking at 25 years to life. I was like, man, come on, man. I'm not going for life.

What are you talking about? Like, there's no way. And he's like, these are first-degree felonies. You know, they're going to direct file you as an adult and try you an adult court. And I was like, whatever. Like, okay, I know I'm not going to do 25 years, though. You know, I was very arrogant back then, you know. Right. And so he kind of put that fear in me.

And I remember telling my co-defriend, Chris, I'll say his name. I remember telling him, like, we looked at each other. We're like, dude, we messed up. All right. We're like, man, this isn't good. And then from there, we went to our first appearance, everything, and then we were able to get out on house arrest. So I think actually, before we went out on house arrest, from the tent in 45th Street, they sent us to the gun club over in West Palm. And that's actually the jail.

Right. And the juveniles are on the top floor. So we sat up there on the juvenile floor. These are all the kids that get tried as an adult. These are all like the worst kids, you know, that. that got charged with the most heinous crimes. And I guess in the city, you know. So we were there for like two weeks,

and then we finally got on on house arrest. I remember, I'll tell you one other thing, we were there for two weeks. I was so hungry, man. I mean, you know, if you had Nike socks on, oh, man, you were eating good. You know, dudes wanted to buy your socks. That's how it was.

I had Nike socks. I was like, look, I'll get a couple noodles. It was just a whole, you know how it is. It's a whole other thing in there. So we were in there for like two weeks and I got out on house rest. I remember actually one of the guys that was in there at that time, he was in there for so long that I already went through a whole program, got into other charges. I came back when I was 18. Two years later, he was still there, this kid.

Yeah, I was like, damn, man. I know he was going through it. Right. You know. I know a guy who did four years in the county. jail. Yeah, that's crazy, huh? It's just waiting for, like, he'd gone, he fought his whole case, went to trial, lost, filed an appeal, and filed a motion to stay in county jail while the appeal was happening. Wow. So it was like, you've been here for four years. Like, that's

insane in a county jail, which is not designed for anybody to be there that long. No, it's not. Yeah, it's, it sucked, man. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. Although the food is free. Right. No, but, but yeah, we were there two weeks. It got out on house arrest. And, I mean, at that point, man, I was still, like, throwing parties at the house. I was on house arrest. I got evicted out of my mom's condo because I threw a Halloween party.

People still talk about it to this day. They're like, dude, you're that kid that had the Halloween party 10 years ago? I'm like, yeah. But it was so bad. I mean, dude, it was like that wasn't like Project X or anything, that movie. But there was people out in the front. yard getting it on you know what I'm saying the the sign of the front neighborhood someone hit it like just it was they came back the next day when everything was done and they gave me the

paper they said yeah give this to your mom you guys got like 30 days left and uh you got to get out of here right or something two weeks um but yeah actually the cops I ended up coming to that party and they were cool they're like oh just dump just flush the you know just flush the weed and the alcohol and you know I had they couldn't see my ankle monitor though right they didn't know i was on house arrest i didn't tell anybody right i was just like oh it's a party at my house like i can't go over there but just hang out here um and so that that was a whole other thing i actually did that to my mom like twice or three times you got her evicted twice yeah yeah she sounds like you need to do some time in juvie i mean you might have been i might

have been like i'm like you can't come back here i mean it was yeah it was it was it was wild man and she came home after the second one because I think I was on house arrest too because we moved and then it was like years later I was still on house arrest because I picked up more charges while I was in juvie and she came home she's like chase this is our home like how did you pick so well so so you okay so you're out on house arrest so what from that point you get the mom's got to move so what happened after that so still on house arrest and uh the day is coming i had a day where my program was going to start it was january 17 did you what's a program like i understand what did you plead to so i i i guess i pleaded i don't really

know i had like nine counts of armed burglary i i think i pleaded guilty to it um armed burglary like you weren't you stole you you hit one car and got got got some guns so how do they hit you with armed burglary for all the other charges well all the other i think i hit like three cars that had guns in them. Oh, okay. I know there was at least two. I know there was that one pick of truck. There was a total like nine guns.

It was like probably five or six. Oh, okay. We hit like, we would, we found one gun in one car, two guns and another one, a shotgun in this one. And so they just rang them all as concurrent like a string. And, um, right. And so they had me confessed everything. I was telling you about.

I confess and I just, I don't know. I just didn't even care. It was like something like, I was like, what's the worst that can happen? Like, you could get 20 years. I know, that's the thing. So how much time? So how much, what was the, what did you end up being sentenced to? Well, they finally after, you know, going back and forth, they're like, look, we can, we'll, we'll set them to a level six, Avon Park Youth Academy.

It's no longer here. But at the time, that was the place. They said, look, you do, I think it was nine to, or six to nine months or something, or to 12 or something like that. And it wasn't like a maximum security thing. It was a very low, like a bunch of kids, 15, 16 years old. It was more of like a rehabilitation program. And I think my mom actually told him like she was enforcing that I went, you know.

She wanted me to go, I think. Right. I'm sure. Yeah. You've had her evicted twice. You're getting the cops raiding the house. Yeah, it wasn't, you know. I remember what was the guy, Tulane?

Trulane. Yeah, yeah, Trulane. There was a guy who was selling drugs. Like, he got caught twice. I think it was twice selling drugs. And his dad was like, get your shit and get out. And he's like 15 years old or something. He's like, yeah, you're done.

Yeah. He's like, I can't stay. No. You need that tough love, man. Because my mom, she was, you know, she was, I don't want to say she was a pushover if she's not. But it's her son, you know, she's going to do anything for me. But you can only enable somebody so much before you say, okay, look, you're, you're, you seem destined to ruin your life. Yeah. But you don't, you know, and I understand you're my kid,

but you're not going to take me down with you. And she would always, even when I was in elementary school, because we would get into, you know, big fights and stuff, even when I was younger, my dad wasn't around, you know, and you need a man around to raise a son, you know. So we'd get in fights and she'd always threaten me, Chase. I'm going to send you that military school. We would always drive by it. And she's like, I'm going to send you right there. Yeah, it doesn't look fun, does it? And I'm like, hmm. Doesn't look bad at all. I actually look at it. I was like, oh, It's in the woods. Whatever.

Yeah, it didn't look. I don't really remember how it looked, but she would always start me with that. And so I think finally when she got her opportunity to, you know, and I'm glad she did it too. I'm glad. I think it's good for kids like that growing up like that. I mean, just to get some, I mean, I'd rather gotten in trouble young. Yeah. Than, you know, older because I can always say, you know, I was a juvenile and I was.

but I learned my lesson. But yeah, the house arrest incident, I go to court. They plea with me a program deal. I go to the program. And so before I go to the program, you know, I'm stressing. You know, I'm like, God, six months. Right. Oh, my God, how am I going to hang out with all my girlfriends, you know?

Where am I? She's going to find a new boyfriend. It's going to be like a vacation. right now, right? Yeah. Yeah, because when I was on house arrest, I would just, you know, I would, this was when Instagram first came out. I mean, I was on Instagram and Snapchat before. I was like a pioneer that I drove that in the culture, you know. And so it was, it was nothing like it was before. I was on that when people would say, oh, why are you going to have an Instagram? All you can do is take pictures on there. Right. Why? I like Facebook better. That was like

2012. Everybody was saying that. And then Snapchat and all that. that but yeah i would just use my time i'm like hey look i'm leaving in a couple weeks whatever when i remember one girl i was dating at the time she was you know she was really upset and it kind of got me upset to know that i could make someone that upset that didn't even like she's just my girlfriend you know she was like crying and stuff i was like wow she really cares about me you know and um it didn't i felt really bad i don't know it felt really she waited around No. Okay.

She did write me once, though. There you go. That's it. I had a couple girls write me, and I had a plaque on my wall, in my bedroom of just a bunch of girls on the wall. Nobody else on the compound had, I had like 20 girls writing me. I mean, I had a whole picture. I mean, I remember one time I came back and the guys,

they took my picture off the wall because you know, you could break in and get, and I found it in the bathroom on the floor. And I'm like, man. I'm like, well, I know she's hot. She would spray the paper with the perfume, right? And some girls didn't write me, though, you know. And, but yeah, she didn't wait around.

She's got a good career now. She's college and all that, yeah. So you went through the whole program. You got out. Yeah. Well, I didn't necessarily get out. That was the problem. What happened?

I thought, you know, I'm going to come here on good behavior. I'm going to do good here. I'm not going to mess around. You know, I'm not like that, these kids and stuff. And so I was good for about four or five months, you know. So when you first get there, I'm sure, you know, they shave your head, bald, go into orientation. I meet, you know, a couple other people like me. Some of those people went on to have actually a prestige criminal career.

Right. So, I mean, we'll talk about that. later but um i get there um everything's good for a while you know i'm getting whatever i'm like okay it's not bad all i wanted was some good food and you know just a just a girl to come i mean i wanted to eat that more than anything like i would just picture like i'm like man i can't wait to get out and just have a big like icing cake or something you know right um i would cross down all the days i was on a crazy workout program too i was actually training some of the other guys, you know, like pushups and stuff like that. I mean,

deck of cards, you know, you get the deck of cards. And I was just trying to pass time by. Right. I mean, I wrote like, I copied a workout book for word for word just so I could take it home with me because they told me I couldn't take the book home with me. So I was like, all right, I'm just going to write down, basically copy the whole book. And so I was just doing a lot reflecting, you know, just a lot of time to just kind of, what in the heck is going on? You know, how did I get here? So, so what happened that you didn't get out? So there was, um, about halfway when I was in there about six months, there was a riot that broke out. Okay. A riot. Yeah. Um, the riot started over a cup of noodles. I can see that. Yeah.

That's how ridiculous it is. Over a cup of noodles. Somebody owed somebody a cup of noodles and the guy told him fuck off and... Basketball game. They lost a basketball game. Oh, okay. And I played basketball in high school. I was like a tri-athlete in high school, man.

I really, when I moved back down to Florida, I kind of just left all that stuff behind me. I mean, I started missing practice and getting on the bus with, you know, these girls. And so I know I'm kind of jumping around, but back to that whole thing, I would, I was very athletic and so was my dad and he'd always want me he's like chase just you know he's like you could really you know just keep working out he'd always encourage me to just do sports and uh you know the girls just got me distracted man i i remember leaving school one time 10th grade um Chelsea and china you know that was they're like come on the bus with us you know come back home i'm like yeah

that sounds like a great idea i'm not going to run suicides in the basketball practice not today and I'd tell my coach yeah I left my shoes at the house man I'm sorry and he'd see me walking with the two girls on the bus and so so that was kind of how I veered off I started getting onto another prioritizing you know that instead of sports and myself you know I should have but you know you're 16 so back to the whole riot thing we it was a it was a territorial riot so St. Pete and Lando that was like oh fuck St. Pete you know right and so everybody started running out of the compound I mean they were calling 10 33 1033 and and so it got so bad because there was only 20 staff there It got so bad that the staff left the compound they left okay they didn't carry pepper spray they didn't carry any of that

The how many inmates? No, 200 kids 200 or something and you know they weren't like licensed correctional officers or anything they work for G4S right and so they just get a job they're just counselors exactly yeah and um yeah um everyone started running out of the compound and uh i was just looking i'm like wow and so i'm like i'm gonna go out there too like let's check i just wanted to check it out right and so you know you know you got your little click or whatever guys in there and they're actually from this area, Sarasota. Stephen and Creston. Stephen and Creston.

Yeah, they actually just got out of a level 10. One of them, actually, I'll show you a picture. He was on by crime, crime stoppers. We're looking for him. Crime stoppers. He was doing a bunch of stuff. And he's finally, he's actually in AC school now. So what happened?

Did you try and escape? Like, you just went out with the other guys? It's funny. We were talking about escaping. But I'm like, come on, guys, we're not going to escape. Right. Where are we going to go? You know, we're in Avon Park.

I didn't know where I was at. He's like, no, I can call this girl, you know, she'll come pick us up. I'm like, we don't have time like that to do all that. Plus, I'm trying to get out of here. I'm not trying to, you know, pick up a bunch of extra charges and stuff. So we went, what we did was instead of fighting everything, we just wanted to get on Facebook, you know, to talk to our people. And we were hungry. so we got some candy bars and stuff like that.

And so we broke into one of the guidance counselor's office. We threw a fire extinguisher through the window. And then, you know, one of us jumped in there and opened the door or whatever. Yeah, Facebook was like, if you can get on Facebook on there, I mean, it was like, man, I'll stay here forever. Right. And I was like, but, yeah, so two, three hours this is going on. the medical facility that was there on the compound was ransacked. I mean, it looked something like out of a movie.

Guys had their shirts over their face and fire extinguishers, throwing TVs through the window, just everything you can think of, you know? Actually, one of my friends almost died in that riot. That was the same one because we split up because they wanted to go fight and down in Broward and stuff. And I was like, dude, dumb, dumb boys are going to say, I'm like, no, no, no, don't do that. just, you know, but you know how it is. Everyone's got their political beef and stuff. So, yeah, we were there.

And so finally, you know, Sheriff Grady Judd. Yeah, yeah. Right. He actually was there. And he went on an interview about talking about this place. And I think that's why they shut it down. Because they weren't properly equipped to handle that many students. I mean, in case something like that happened.

Right. Um, actually, I mean, I got my GED while I was there too. So I graduated from that place. Um, yeah, they finally shut it down. Um, they got on, I think there was a bunch of, I don't want to say there was a helicopter. I don't think there was. There might have been though. But they were just on the megaphone.

Hey, you guys need to lay down. We're bringing the dogs in. Um, so if you guys aren't laying down with your hands behind your back, you know, the dogs are going to get you. So everyone's laying down. I see my friend crawling with his head like a pumpkin. I was like, dude, what? He's like, I was like, man, I told you not to. Right.

And he had the most damage to his, dude. I mean, I never seen someone's head that swollen. It looked like a pumpkin on his head. I felt bad, man. I was like, dude, oh, my God. So anyways, they zip tie everybody. hands behind your bag zip tie everyone i was in zip ties for like 10 hours or something eight six hours like shoulders about to just pop out in my socket and um you know they had us all in the atrium

they were waiting for the Polk county bus to come pick us all up because they were they were sending everybody to the county jail in Polk County and so that's how i picked up the the riot charge, you know, and I wasn't even really, I got, I got charged with exciting a riot, but 61 kids got charged with that. Right. I think there's like 200 of them there. So, yeah, we, you know, we're all zip tied on the bus going to, so we finally get to the Polk County Jail. We're there for about two weeks, and everyone's just like, you know, they separated everything. wearing like pods and everything and whatever you know just they were holding us there for like two weeks so how much how much additional time did you get well um they were getting so it's considered

violation of probation since i was actually that's how they that's how they charge you you're violating your probation because you're technically considered on parole while you're still in and um so they so all my gun charges popped up when i violate when you violate the parole or probation, all your previous charges come on and you know how it works, right? Yeah. So, um, they charged me with that and they brought all the other charges. And, uh, I mean, I was fighting that for like eight months, too. That's when I got back out on house arrest. So before house arrest, I finished the program. So two weeks go by. We get back to Avon Park. Um, they're letting a lot of people go. And it was just like, no one, this has never really happened before. So they didn't really know what to,

what to do, I don't think. There was a lot of abuse going on there, too. A lot of abuse. I wasn't aware of it at the time, but one of my friends told me about it. So they actually ended up shutting the program down a couple years later. But, yeah, I picked up to charge. I got released from there probably three months after coming back from Avon Park. and yeah that's that's kind of you got released and were you never charged for anything else they

never oh was it so i went back to palm beach county to fight my violating probation charge right went back to palm beach county um i was the judge just kind of let me go like he was like look i was like begging him i'm like i'm like please like i learned my lesson I didn't do anything in the riot. You know, I was just there. They got me. I didn't do anything. I didn't burglarize anything.

He did burglarize it. That's what they charged. Yeah. I don't know, man. I just was there. I mean, I was on house arrest fighting it. And I was just remember I was crying in the courtroom. I couldn't even control it.

Right. He let me go. And it was like tears of joy. Right. I was crying. Like, just remorseful. Like, I was just like, oh, my God. Thank you.

He understands. How old were you at that point? I was, um, 17. You're still 17? Yeah, 17. Because before I was 21, I got arrested four times. Right.

So that was the, I think that was the third time. Yeah, I mean, basically, after all that, you know, the judge let me go. That's when I started to kind of change my life around. I realized it's not the life for me. although I did get into some trouble a couple years after, but when I got out, the judge let me go. I was on probation for about two years. Drug tests, all that kind of stuff.

I don't think they ever drug tested me, actually, when I was on probation. They never drug tested me because I didn't have, like, drug-related charges. Okay. But not that it's... I think I was smoking a little weed or something, but yeah that's when I started to really change my life around I mean when I first got out I was walking to all these different shopping centers and I would ask for a job I'd go to the gas station hey do you think I can get a job here

I mean I'll stock the shelves I'll do whatever you want I don't care just I needed to get a job to make some money the right way, you know? And so my mom's boyfriend at the time, she's like, well, he says, Chase, you know, I see that you are putting the work in and you want to change your life, this and that. I'm going to talk to my boss and see if we can get your job doing AC. And I was like, okay, you know, didn't think much of it. And I actually ended up getting a job at the pizza place.

I just never started. Right. So I went in there and I got the job and they said, yeah, you know, come in tomorrow or something. And this all the same time I had an interview at the AC company or something. I don't know what exactly happened, but I ended up not ever working at the pizza place. Thank God. And yeah, I don't know how that would have worked out. I was really big into working out.

Right. And I remember thinking like, man, I'm not going to be able to work out anymore if I have a job. You know, yeah, you can do both, but I'm not waking up at 14. 30 in the morning. You know, so I moved in with this dude. He was doing AC. Moved in with him. He had a spare room in the place he was renting.

And I started riding my skateboard to work every day. I mean, I didn't have a car. So I'd just, it was like a mile away, the shop. I would ride in, skateboard lunchbox and $10 an hour. You know, back in 2014, I think it was October 2nd. And, yeah, that's kind of where everything started changing for the good. Okay. Yeah.

I thought you got arrested. Okay, so then I got arrested again after that. Yeah. Okay, well, I guess we're done. No, no, no, not far from done. Well, I mean, close. We're getting there. So I was, you know, doing AC for a while.

and, you know, doing good. I had a girlfriend. And she was Cuban and Puerto Rican. That's the dangerous. Yeah. Yeah, dangerous. They'll catch you. Right.

Beautiful. I mean, she was gorgeous. She worked at Applebee's down the street from me. She was one of my cousins' friends because my cousin worked at Applebee's too. And I went in there one day. I said, hey, where's that girl that drives the punch buggy at? And she's like, oh, she came up. and I said, hey, what's up, I'm Chase, this and that.

She had her boyfriend. I was working there at the time. And I just basically took her right from her boyfriend. And then he got all mad. He came outside, and I just kind of drove off in my truck. Because I finally got a car now. So I got a truck. So while I'm doing AC, you know.

And so we start dating. And everything's good. Everything's great. This was probably one of my first real relationships. you know, um, that I've ever had. And, um, we, you know, we would argue a little bit sometimes. And so, um, one time it was a bad argument. And, uh, we were driving.

We were driving. I was driving. We were on our way to the beach, I think, or something. And she was rolling up a blunt. And she was arguing and she was yelling and this and that. And I slammed on the brakes. And she was, She kind of just flew forward everything in her lab.

Everything just kind of flew forward. And I call that wedging them. Yeah. That's when you wedge them. When they, when they hit the, you, what? And you hit the, you hit the brakes. And it wedges in between the dashboard and the windshield. They fly forward.

And then they drop back and, what you sure, everything. Yeah, exactly. So I didn't do anything. I didn't touch you. Exactly. I gave me. Sorry. That was it.

Yeah. That was the, I didn't touch you. I didn't do anything like that. I didn't know. He was angry of me. I hit the brakes. I didn't know that your 110 pound ass was going to fly into the fucking win. That's crazy.

Why don't you have your seatbelt walking? Yeah, exactly. And she's yelling at me and I'm driving. And I'm like, oh, I couldn't take it. I was like, just stop, you know. And so, you know, all the weed that she had fell on the floor. I think she hit her head on the dashboard too. But, and I think I even told her, I was like, that's what you get.

I think I even said that. I shouldn't laugh. I know, I shouldn't laugh either. I know she's going to be watching this. What she even do again? She was just arguing. Yeah. Boom.

At the fucking right. She was yelling at me for something that I don't even remember. And so I was like, after that, I said, you know what? I said, just get out. Right. I said, just get out. Because she wouldn't stop even after that. I said, just get out.

Just get out of the truck. So she did. She got all her stuff. And she started, she got out. And she started walking back to her house. And she's only about 10 minutes from her. house or something so she'll be fine yeah i i feel i speed off i hit the gas i'm out of there you know i'm driving i'm like you know what i feel bad about that i was like let me go back and try to say sorry

so i go back i'm like i don't even know if i should say her name or not but that's public document i mean it was just say her first thing whatever jennifer yeah yeah yeah i'm like i'm like i'm like evana i'm like i'm like i'm like i'm sorry i was talking to her a little bit soft spoke i'm like i'm sorry, no, I didn't mean all that. Let's talk about this. She's still rubbing her head. She was pissed. Yeah, she wasn't even looking at me.

She just kept walking, just ignoring me completely. And I was like, please, just come on. Let's talk about this and just totally ignored me. And I got mad and I sped off again. I'm like, whatever. And I'm like, you know what? No, I got to go back. What am I going to do the rest of the night?

Right, yeah. Think about this. So I go back. I'm like, hey, I'm like, hey, I get out of the car this time. I get out, I parked the truck. I'm like, hey, listen, like, I'm talking to you. Like, just can we talk?

And she just keeps doing it. So she just kept ignoring me and just kept walking. So I, like, I took the towel from her or something or like her purse or something that I'm like trying to get out. I meant to get her purse because I know she would come after. If I grabbed her purse, I know she's coming. So I grabbed like the beach towels, the wrong bag with all. all the towels in it and stuff. And she's like, oh, I don't care.

You can have those, you know? Like, so I'm like, damn, I got the wrong bag. So I go back to her. I'm like, hey, look, like, just can we talk? And I think I actually broke my finger. This is the time. It's still broken today. It won't bend all the way.

Like, from this time. Yeah, because I went to grab her purse. And she had like a big bottle of perfume in there or something. And I cracked my finger on it. And I broke my finger. And I was like, oh, man. I was like, oh, it hurt so bad. probably some of the worst pain I've ever been in, finger broken.

It's not fun. And she's, she's still, like, I didn't get her purse. I broke my finger. I'm like yelling. I'm like, oh, you bitch. Like, oh, you broke my finger now. I'm blaming her. Yeah, I'm blaming her for it.

You know, I'm like, you broke my finger now. And so I go to the nearest gas station and I get some ice for it. And I'm like, oh, God, I'm just, I was so pissed off. I was like, oh, man. I was just trying to relax. I was like, what am I going to do? So I go to her car because I know she was walking to her car and she was like 10 minutes away from it

because remember we took my truck to go to the beach. And I go to her car. And this is going to get a lot of people of probably not liking me for this. But I decided to kick a bunch of dents in it. Right. Yeah. How old are you at this point?

18, 19. I had a buddy who his name, what was his name was Greg? Yeah. Greg Shelton, he's dead now, actually. He ripped off a drug dealer and the guy took him out in the woods and tied him to a tree and tortured him death. Damn. A snake charmer found him. He shot the guy, ended up shooting him in the chest four or five times.

But broke all his fingers, they found it. He'd been tortured first. Like the guy broke all his fingers and beat him with like a pipe and all kinds of stuff. He was all fucked up. And then finally the guy just took a gun and shot him in the chest four or five now. The guy's never been arrested. I thought you're going to tell the story that you're going to tell about him. I didn't know that that was going to be the way he died.

No, no, but what happened with Greg was that we lived together at one point and he was dating a chick. And I remember he, they got into an argument. She got her car and was driving off. And I remember when she got into the car, he was running and hitting and punching and kicking the car. He ripped off like the, the rear room mirror. and then he took it and he's smashing it into the fucking car like really and he'd already ran up the car and just kicked that like dented in like the front fender and the door and then he yanked the then he yanked off the um the rear rear mirror and was smashing it in the car

like he beat the shit out of the girl as she's driving away he's running with the car in a park in a you know it's in an apartment parking lot so she can't pick up enough speed then she has to stop and then he's still beating on and then she finally gets away see yeah and he i remember when he got back to the apartment, I went, why did you do that? And he said, he was like, bro, I fucking love her, bro. Yeah. And I went, did you think that after you did $2,000 to, it was a piece of shit car, but after you did a couple thousand dollars with a damage to her car, did you think she was going to stop, get out, look at the car and say, you must love me. Right. Right. I'm trying to think what was going through your head. He was like, I wasn't thinking, yeah,

I don't, I fucked up. Should I apologize? I was like, oh, no, that's, that's, that's done. Yeah, that's done. You should have. $1,000 with a damage to a $1,500 car. Right. I mean, that's it. Yeah. Everyone holds over. Yeah.

She was back a couple days later. But still, she was an idiot. He was an idiot. Yeah. And see, I didn't want her to see. I didn't want anybody to know that I was going to do this, right? So I did it more discreetly. Like, I didn't want to make sure.

I didn't want to break her car too much where her windows were broken and her, I just wanted to make it, like, just beat it up. I was just so angry. I just wanted to take it out on something. And you didn't think when she got there she would know. Oh, I knew she'd get there and be like, oh my gosh, someone randomly just smashed my car up. Well, my thing was like, good luck trying to prove it, that it was me, you know. And so there was a witness there that seen me do that.

And I didn't know, right? I didn't know that she was watching. You're like a horrible criminal. I know. That's why I just gave it up because I was like, it's not working out for me. Listen, I had another, I had a friend named Tim Hampton who actually was walking through a apartment complex. and this guy had left his screen door open a little bit. And he went around, knocked on the screen on the front door,

and nobody answered. So he went back around and went in the screen door, found the guy's credit cards, took the guy's credit card, and went out to the mall, and ran up the credit card. This was back in the 80s. So you had the credit card.

You just, boom, boom. He bought, whatever, $1,000, $2,000 with the stuff. Yeah. And then went back to the guy's apartment to put the credit card back. And he put the credit card back and was like, you know, nice, right? Yeah. Good job. And then he left.

And the guy came home and saw that and realized that someone had come in the house and found out about the charges. And they tracked Greg down immediately. immediately because Greg had left his wallet there. Oh my God. Greg was not an arch criminal. Wow. Yeah.

He was not a mastermind. No, he wasn't. He was a smart guy. Yeah. But yeah, he wasn't like, he thought breaking, putting the credit card back like nice, he'll never figure it out. Like, you know, he's 19, 20 years old. Like he's just a kid. He didn't really know how things.

Well, you remember the barefoot bandit, don't you? Yeah, yeah. That kid, I mean. That was a great story. Yeah. He's kind of an idiot, too, though. Yeah. I remember when he got in front of the judge, like he was like, wasn't sorry.

Wasn't it. He was like, it's like, geez, yeah. What are you doing? Oh, man. Yeah. I mean, he stole those planes and. Yeah, he was, he was brilliant.

I mean, he would hide in the top of the trees when they come to look for him. He knew that jungle so well. He was hiding on top of the trees. Have you heard this story of the barefoot bandit? This kid was, did he learn how to fly planes by playing by the video games? Yeah, simulet. simulator and he would go rob and this was where Alaska where was it where it was all a bunch of islands oh Bahamas it was in the Bahamas no no I think that's where he got caught he got caught no this

a lot of them were wherever it was there were some islands to get caught the Bahamas but he was I'm sure somebody in the comments will tell me but he he would rob a bunch of places and then take a plane break into a private airport and grabbing a piper he's never flown a plane and then take off and fly somewhere else and then bring the plane down and land it and wreck it. Yeah, wreck it, right. And get out and go rob some other places. Listen, the cops know it's him. He's barefoot.

He's going and breaking into places, walking around barefoot. They got his prints everywhere. Right. And they know who it is. They just couldn't catch him. And then they would like, okay, we know he's in this area and this island or this whatever, this area. So we can get it.

And he just go find a fucking private airplane, airport, jump into an airplane. Yeah. Take off. They say that he would steal the credit card, like you said, and he would buy, like, instruction manuals on how to fly the plane, and he would buy this stuff off someone else's credit card, have it shipped to somebody else's address, and then he would get the information and just read how to...

This is a kid that was raised, like, in the woods in a trailer, and a single-wide trailer in the woods with a mother that's living on disability. He doesn't go to fucking school. Yeah. Barefoot all the time. Yep. I mean, he's a straight, straight hillbilly in the woods. it must be a fucking genius to figure that out exactly i think the cops actually got him a couple

times i mean they were on the trail like the same place and he would just give him the finger like yeah good luck trying to he would look at him as they're coming to good luck trying to get me just run out and they wouldn't even be able to find them yeah he's a kid you know you got a bunch of overgrown you got a 40 fat 45 year old cop yeah and a and a 17 year old kid you're not catching him you're not catching that kid no and they wouldn't even try i'd be like yeah you got this yeah he had i mean he had like a whole fan club too oh yeah he was he had t-shirts after them everything yeah but you know it in the end it turned out he's kind of a jerk you know it's like you know they were supposed to be a they sold his life rights um they did there there is a

like an animated one you see it was pretty good right yeah yeah it was like what a what a great movie that would have been absolutely it was a great story i thought wow like how different i mean to take a plane, that's a whole other level. Yeah, I can't imagine. I don't care how many video games I played. Right. I wouldn't at any point think I'm qualified to do this. Yeah, some balls on them, huh?

That's because you're a kid. Like a 40-year-old man, it would be like, fuck, no, I'll kill myself. But as a kid, you think, ah, you think you're indestructible. Exactly. You do, yeah. That was part of my problem. I thought, you know, I was like, I'm good, no matter what happens.

Right, I'm going to figure this out. I'm going to be all right. Yeah. I'm a tough guy. I can get into a car accident in 100 miles an hour and brace myself on the way. I actually thought that. Like I could brace myself on the steering wheel. Yeah, I actually did. I could brace myself. I was benching like 350. I'll just brace myself. Are you out of your fucking mind? The way it works. Yeah, I actually did get in a head-on collision on B-line, actually out there in Okachobi. Because I used to live out there with my grandpa. My grandpa lives out there. My two-ons live out there too. My grandpa was, he was a good guy. I mean, he was a, he was a good guy. I mean, he was a, veteran uh vietnam veteran private investigator all that but um yeah i got in a head-on collision and had like four staples in the top of my head um i was trying to pass a car and as i'm passing the car i'm like smoking a bowl and i'm like looking at him and like just listening to my music and the guy like makes sure i can't get in front of him he like speeds up oh and there's a car coming and i'm like oh okay well yeah totaled the totaled the truck but

That's another thing. So, second arrest. So you smash up, smash up the car. Somebody saw you, gave me your license tag number, agreed to cooperate, and the cops come to your house and said, would you please come down there? No, that's, no, it went a little differently because they actually didn't see my license plate. They seen the big blue truck.

I had a blue truck. And so the cops called me and they said, hey, Chase, could you come down here? Because I had her keys still. I don't like the fact that you know my first name. Yeah, exactly. We're on a first name basis. Right. That's what I'm saying.

So there was a blue truck. Chase. Yeah, it was Chase. Yeah, it was Chase, right. Well, the thing was what kind of gave me away, I think, a lot was I got there. And I had her keys still. And I told her, I said, I threw her keys on the side of 95 somewhere. I was like, I don't know.

She's not going to be able to get in her car because she couldn't get in the car. I had her keys still. And so I had to come back to bring her keys. And when I came back, they seen the blue truck. And they're like, oh, yeah, we've already identified you. And the witness said it looks exactly like you in the same truck. And they arrest me for vandalism. It wasn't on any domestic thing or anything like that.

They did try to pull that card, the domestic, but I told her, I said, you want to go down there and tell them the truth, tell them. I didn't put a finger on you. There was no domestic, you know. As much as I wanted to. Wedgings don't count. No, I took it out on your car. I said, I took it all out on your car.

You know, that's what happened here. And so I want to make, and she did. She went down there and told them, you know, hey, whatever. And I think she filed an injunction on me. I don't even know what that is, but I've seen it on the internet. And, you know, I don't talk to her anymore or anything. No, that relationship didn't work out. No, it didn't work out.

That's nuts. I learned a lot. But, yeah. It's a learning experience. Learning experience. It was. It sure was. What was the next thing that happened? So, I mean, after all that, I really, because I got arrested. I went to, this time, they, you know, they booked me in jail and everything. I was, I was in the county. So back up a little bit. I mean, on my 18th birthday, while I was still doing the whole house arrest thing.

I mean, while I was doing the whole riot thing, I spent my 18th. birthday you know they I was on the juvenile floor 18th birthday comes along they took me to the adult you know maximum security because I had gun charges and that was before you know that was while the riot like right after the riot I know I'm going back a little bit but um I spent my 18th birthday on that place and it's like I could never leave that place it's like I always I'm like what is going on you know like keep on coming back here I didn't want to come back here anymore I'm like well how come I like I'm like what in the heck is going on? Like, why do I keep ending up here?

You know? Right. And, you know, obviously, you know, it's not making the right decisions. It could have been a lot worse. I know one of my, one of my, I wouldn't say friend, but acquaintance, I knew him, knew of him while I was in the program. Long story short, he ends up becoming the purge killer. They called, they had a name for him and everything.

They called him the purge killer. Okay. Right. Because he was going around just killing people, man. Just shooting him out of the car. Okay. Trying to get initiated into some gang stuff, you know. And I was, I knew him. He would always bring back the meds, you know, under his tongue or whatever and sell them to people and make you go to sleep and stuff. Yeah, so if you go to pill line and you get on like Syracille or something. Right. I think that's what it was called too.

You know, so they give you this. So, but you got to go to pill line. and when you go there the nurses like they'll give you a little they'll give you your medication but they want to see you swallow so you put it out and go okay and they're like

lift your tongue out you know you guys go while they're doing it they'll wedge it up here or something you know I'm saying like there's places to hide and they're yeah they know

I'm good and they're here and then you come back on it and you can sell it yeah that's what they were doing that's what he was it's horrible

yeah it is bad man I know I didn't I didn't want any of that. I just wanted some food, man. I was so hungry, growing boy. I was like, dude, give me some steak or something. But, yeah, I mean, after that, all that happened, really, I stopped.

I learned my lesson, you know, I said, you know what? I need to get focused on my business. I need to get focused on something that's sustainable. What about the arrest for the thing? Did you go to jail for that? You said you got booked. Did you get out? Yeah.

Did you get probation? Because, yeah, she went to the jail and told them, like, hey, it's not a domestic dispute. It was just a vandalism. I think I got charged with it, but that's all I did. It was time served, I think. Did you pay for a truck? No. No?

No? Wow. I know. She didn't even ask me to. Was it a decent vehicle to begin with? It was like a Ford Focus. Oh, so it may have been improving. She called her mom.

Her mom called my mom and stuff. And it was nice. It got bad, you know, but she actually reached out to my mom a couple years ago, like a year ago. She's like, oh, good luck with the hurricane and, you know, my ex-ex. She sounds like a nice person. Yeah. Trying to wiggle me back in, you know. How you doing over there, you know?

But she was, she had a lot to learn too, you know. We were both young and just, you know, just a teenage relationship. Yeah, exactly. They all end badly. Right. And I didn't. So. I didn't want to keep getting in trouble after that.

I didn't. I was like, all right. I guess I just have to lock myself in a room or something and just like drink water and just eat rice and beans and just meditate, you know, or something. Is that what you did? Basically, I mean, kind of like I just stopped going out, stop hanging out with everybody. I just kind of stuck to myself. if I was just doing the AC thing, bouncing around from company to company, just trying to get

raise after raise, you know, I'd go to one company, hey, can I get 15 an hour here? You know how it is. You just bounce around. So after I worked for all the AC companies in the city, I went to another city. And so I ended up working for like 10 companies before I started my own business. All throughout South Florida, I actually made a pit stop in Okachobee, worked out there for a little while. and a lot of stuff i mean my grandpa i was living with my grandpa out there for a little while um and uh yeah he actually there was a guy that he

one of his buddies i guess up in north carolina or something he was staying down there for a little while come to find out this dude same thing like you were talking about he would torture he like tortured somebody in the woods and killed him or something and I was I was sleeping next to this guy in the same roof underneath the same roof with this dude and you meet him and he's like oh hey like never would have thought that yeah but you didn't know him money exactly yeah I didn't know him anymore yes I don't know that other guy yeah yeah but you know exactly yeah so he was um that was the last time I seen it I thought it was just wild how that dude I mean looks can to see you I guess you know you never never judge a book

by its cover they say but but I try not to. But, yeah, after that, things kind of started working out for me. I was real serious about doing AC. That seemed like the only thing that I could do that I wasn't getting in trouble with. You know, I go to work. I met some great people along the way.

I still think about all the things I've learned from every person that I've ever worked with and stuff. And, yeah, I got to be. got four companies now, four businesses. Right. All of them together. Revenue, probably about 800,000 a year. It's not a lot or nothing, but it just keeps me, you know, busy.

It doesn't put on too much of a workload for me. We have to, you know, I'm, I got like one other person that helps me on the other coast, run the service calls. But I'm still in the tough spot right now to kind of get the business to grow. Everyone's so focused on making millions of dollars and stuff. and I'm just, I want to go slow and steady. Right. Slow and steady.

Every time I tried to rush things and stuff, it end up in a jail cell. Slow and steady, you know? So a lot of, I think, I don't know if you're a religious person or not, but, you know, God puts you through these things, whoever your God is. It puts you through these things to teach you a lesson or, you know, to show you what's going to happen and you the life. and you either learn or you don't. And so I finally learned. And I don't want to say I'm happy that it all happened like that. Right.

But I'm grateful for the way that it did turn out and not. It could have been a lot worse, you know. And, you know, my life's not over yet either. I'm 28 years old, 28, be 29 February. So, I mean, you know, there's still a lot of, still a lot of, still a lot of, distractions out there, you know, but I try to just stay focused and I'm still trying to find a good girl to settle down with, you know. And, but yeah, that's basically, I mean,

I mean, this hasn't been a glowing endorsement or at least for, not for, not if she's got a vehicle, but, um, I'm sure that was a long time. Yeah. No, I'm not, how long ago was that? That was 2017. Oh, okay. 2017. Yeah.

Even when I went to go get my license to be an AC contractor, I had to go to court because the guy on the phone was like, it seems like every two years you have a pattern. And I'm like, oh, I didn't even realize that two years. And I said, so you know what, every two years now, I'm going to start a new business. Right. And so we have these little patterns that we don't even recognize.

But they did give me the license. I had to hire a lawyer. and, you know, to get in front of the construction board of, you know, the construction industry board of Florida. Right. And they issued the license. What do you do? Do you do new construction or you just do service calls?

I mean, we could do anything AC related, anything up to 25 tons. Which is for what? Commercial. Is that commercial? Yeah. Anything over five tons is like commercial. But I have a niche and it's really just residential, you know. I don't do any construction.

There's no money in construction. I mean, you will make some money, but it's just to keep your guys busy. Right. You know, and so you can retain that good talent and not have them wander off to a different company that will keep them busy. It's tough, though. I mean, the AC industry, I think it's super competitive. It's one of the most stressful businesses to be in, to be a part of because, you know, everybody has an AC guy. but yeah i want to say ac changed my life though something like a trade i mean it changed my whole

perspective on on life and what to do um yeah i'm just i'm grateful for that opportunity that he gave me a while ago what's going on with your mom uh she lives in benita benita springs her in my is that in lorta yeah okay it's like uh little towns little south of fort mire's like a Arrow, little north of Naples. Okay. A little south of Fort Myers I think of as the Etherklaids. Yeah. Yeah, that's a little southeast.

But yeah, she's good. I mean, she's proud of everything. You know, she's still, she's like my rock. Right. You know what I mean? Like my mom's always been there for me, man. She's, she's great. You know, she's the only person that's never turned her back on me, you know?

Well, I don't know how to cut you lose a couple of you get me evicted a second fucking time. I mean, you might get me evicted once, but boy, that second time, I don't know, you've got someplace to come. She lost it that time, too. I remember. I was like, all right, I can't do this again. I could just see the pain in her eyes. Right. And I was like, ah, that's not a good feeling, you know?

You don't want to feel like that. I mean, my sister, you know, my sister was there. She was young. And it's like, what kind of influence are you setting, you know? Like, is your sister's same, same biological father? Yeah. Really? Boy, this guy, he's, you're, he'd get out.

He'd go to prison, come back, hook up with your mom, go to prison, come back, hook up with your mom. Yeah. You must have been a looker. Yeah, I mean, he was, yeah, he had a couple missing teeth there at the end of his life. But other than that, he was, he was a solid dude, you know? All right. Yeah, you could count on him for sure. But, yeah, he, my dad, I mean, he's.

Yeah, so I have a real sister, full sister, I have a step sister, I have a half sister, I got a half sister, I got a cousin, first cousin, that's, you know, my uncle's daughter, which she's like my sister, too. We're close. So are these are all, like, related to your father? So your father has how many kids? Yeah, like three, two or three. Oh, okay. But my step sister is now with my mom's new, new guy. They've been together like 10 years now, 10 years. But. They're actually like high school sweethearts back in the day. So he had a daughter. And so, I mean, they're not married yet, but she's basically like my step sister, you know. They're working on a whole little Brady bunch. Yeah, exactly.

You know the Brady bunch? Yeah. I don't think he really, he's never watched an episode. Yeah, you know what? Are you serious? I don't think I've ever watched an episode either. Are you serious? No, I've heard of it.

What's so funny about like it was for like the 70s, it was such a non-traditional thing kind of like they were to say hey this was a man who had three sons and a woman who had three daughters like that they never talk about where are their spouses or where their ex-husband ex-wife are they are both are they both you don't know if they're widowed you don't know if they divorced right they never come wrong come along and the first episode they had a dog never saw that dog again and there's like multiple things that you didn't even realize is happening yeah it's just like what in the world yeah yeah so anyway it's something Yeah, the Ready Bunch.

I grew up on the Breddy Bunch. Yeah, no, I know it's a popular TV show. Yeah, no, it's kind of like that, but he's a good dude, you know. He's my bookkeeper, too. So he does all my county and stuff. Right. You know, I take care of my books and stuff. My bookkeeper is a, she does hair.

Oh, really? I'm a licensed barber, too. Really? Are you serious? Yeah. He was going to say, she does hair and she does my books. Oh, yeah? She does her books and she does mine.

And I'm trying to get my wife to do my books, but she has no real interest in it at all. It's not fun. And I'm just afraid she's going to get me thrown in jail if she does it. I'm not sure about this other chick either. Yeah, it always is in your head. Like, I hope he's doing the right thing. Colby knows when I'm doing my taxes because, like, he gets these panicked phone calls. Yeah.

Can you give me a list of all the checks? Right. Yeah. I'm pretty diligent with all that stuff. I mean, I got like, you know, everything very organized. I tried to at least. but yeah, no, he does the bookkeeping for me. Yeah, I don't have really a big family, you know.

I mean, actually my last name, Garlinghouse, I was looking into this because I'm like, where the hell am I from, you know? Right. I'm from like Sweden or something or over there. And what is that? What is that country called? Not Iceland, but. Norway, Sweden to Norway and Sweden are one island.

There's split right down the middle. Scandinavia. Yeah, Scandinavia. The Nordic. The Nordic, exactly. Countries, yeah. That's kind of where, because I spit in that cup, I did a DNA thing. But I found out my last name is actually a small city in Europe, in Germany.

It's actually like. You don't look German. No? You look like Adolf Hitler's wet. That's what you're blonde hair, blue eyes. Yeah, right? You could definitely be wearing. No, it was in his.

Soviet compound, that city. It's like a town probably smaller than this place here where we're at this neighborhood. I mean, it's a smaller, it's such a small little city, but it's Garling House. It's like, you know, German. And I'm like, I got to go there. I want to go there and check it out, see, but I just got my passport and stuff. You know, they finally let me get that. So. I've been in Germany. Have you? Yeah. How do you like it? It's cloudy. Yeah. Very dark. Really? I mean, I'm sure it's sunny sometimes, but the whole time we were there for like a week, it was fucking just overcast and damp and just, you know, and they speak German, you know. There's no, you've never heard anybody speak German where you didn't feel like they were telling you to get into an oven or something.

Right. Yeah, yeah. This is the guy who you're giving your order to. Slainstunzai. And you're thinking, damn. You tell him he wants to see my papers? What's he saying? Get into the van.

We're taking you through the concentration camp. Like, I'm like, it doesn't. No, everything they say just sounds super scary. Yeah, exactly. It's not a romantic language. No, I don't think so. The French talk and you think, oh, that sounds sweet. They're telling you go, fuck yourself.

Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, that's beautiful. Yeah. No, I think Germany's definitely got that. They always play the bad guys. Yeah, they do. You can tell if like five guys walk in the room and one speak in German, you're like, he's the bad guy.

He's the bad dude, yeah. It's, you know, just based on their record. Sorry. going off your record. Yeah, no, they do, they do have quite extensive record. Yeah. But, no, that's, I mean, I think my, I've been in Florida for like four generations. My mom's side of the family.

My dad's side of the family, they migrated from New York, came down. A couple generations. Yeah, but I'm a Florida boy. You know, I've born, raised most of my life here. You know, I probably never will leave Florida just because why? Right. You know, like where is a better place? I mean, there's a lot of great places out there, but to live, to work.

They're not great. Florida's the best, except for the heat, but I never leave the house. You have to leave the house while. And when you show up, there's no heat. I mean, sorry, there's no AC. Oh, that sucks. And then I leave when the AC comes on. Oh, that's horrible.

I'd want to hang out a little bit. I'd leave the AC running in my vehicle the whole time just like in the vehicle. I do. Well, sometimes I have dinner with a lot of my clients and stuff, you know, like, you'd be amazed but people like there's some quite some fellows interesting people that call the AC guy you know it's interesting yeah it's interesting definitely um yeah I was gonna say if if my AC went out and my wife was home alone and had to call the AC guy and I knew you were the AC guy I'd be like right exactly you sit there and fucking swim that's what you do you wait till I get home

I'll call her. Hell, you're going to be in that house with that dude. Yeah, that's, I mean, there's a lot of that, like, I, because married women and stuff, I don't, no, I don't even go there. Like, I can tell sometimes they try to flirt with me and stuff, and I'm like, no. No. The one thing I haven't done has been shot yet. Yeah, I'm not.

Right. Yeah, I'm not messing around. You know, I don't mess around with people just like, you know. But, yeah, no, I just want to. get to fix AC and get out. I wish it was that easy. Just let me fix easy and let me leave, right? But sometimes I want to hold you up and they want to tell you their whole life story and stuff. And it's like, I get it. You want to develop a rapport. I have about 800 customers throughout Florida. I'd say about 50%

of them are 60% women. Right. You know, call me. But you would think it's the guys, but I don't know. Where's Jeff? You're just going down. Yeah, I don't know. That's a, I'd, that's a, Jess. That's a no. Hey there. Listen, if the AC guy looks like him, you just stay here and sweat before you make that call. You know what I'm saying? I mean, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah. He said that 60% of his clients are women. No shit. Well, no, it's weird because I literally have not paid a dollar to Google. And I'm like at number one or two, three link. People are like, oh, set up your Google profile. I'm like, I don't need to. Word of mouth's great.

You know, like, they're like, oh, we could grow your business. I'm like, dude, you don't understand. I'm good. I'm good, man. Yeah, and the heat's not going away that they tell me. Yeah, the heat's not going away anytime soon. I don't think so. I mean.

Yeah. Listen, 92% of my fan base is male. Yeah. Yeah. That's what got me here, right? I mean, I was wondering. But, yeah. Now, I's.

Are we good? I think so. I mean, I think we got everything out there and for everyone to peel apart and go do your research. If you think I'm lying on anything, you know, look into it, you know, see, check it out. I got a bunch of five-star reviews on Google, you know, hundreds of them, you know. I do have a couple one-star reviews, but can't please everybody. No, you know. Some people are just jerks. I mean, if you don't smile at some people, they're like, oh, he's the worst guy ever, you know. I'm like, I was having a bad day.

I mean, come me some slack, you know, but I, yeah, I think that's all, man. I think that's everything. I mean, I think so. Well, I appreciate you making the dry. Yeah, absolutely. And contacting me. Yeah, no, thank you for having me. How hard was it to contact me?

Was it? I sent you a message on Instagram, I think, wasn't it? Yeah. Listen, sometimes I, some people contact me, a bro, I sent you three emails and, you know, and then other people are like, yeah, you sent you an email, you called me, and it was a week ago and now I'm here. Yeah. So, you know, it's like hit or miss.

Like I always tell people or, you know, I'll say like, some people will say stuff in the comments. I'm like, bro, you got to email me. Yeah. Like, and then honestly, I get so many emails. I may not respond. Like, you know, well, I sent you an email. You send me one email.

Like, you might have to send two or three emails, you know, I'll get to it. But if I'm having a bad couple of days, you know, it's fucking gets overwhelming. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, she didn't even think I work. She didn't even think this is work. No, it definitely is. It is. Yeah, it's a lot.

I know it's stressful having to do any kind of when you're dealing with other people. It's stressful. Listen, I heard one time giving a one-hour speech is the equivalent of an eight-hour workday as far as stress is concerned. Probably. She will look at, look, you see shake the head shaking? Yeah. Yeah. That's not different.

I don't need to anymore, right? That's physical. This is mentally stressful. It's smart. I think, I mean, why work in the heat when you could do this? I mean. Stop. Anyway, listen, I'll talk to her later.

No, it's all good. I've never wedged her. No? Not yet? No. Boy, there have been times. She's an avid seatbelt wearer. Yeah, that's good.

Smart. Yeah. That's what you shouldn't be doing, right? You know what I'm talking about? We were, he had this girl. They were driving, and they were arguing and arguing, and he hit the, fucking breaks and she he wedged her yeah she just went up between the windshield

and the dashboard did I nice no yeah well the my police report said that's what you get in it and it was saying that that's what I said her that's what she told the cops is I said that's what you get for never happened

you can't trust them yeah um they get they're all emotional exactly yeah let me wrap this up This is going bad. All right. Okay. Thank you. Yes, sir.

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