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Drop the motherfuckin bag.
Drop the fucking bag.
You're not going to tell me shit.
You're not going to tell me nothing.
And why the fuck out of everybody?
He saved my name.
Like, God damn, you're a real bitch, bro.
Like, for real, though.
Both of my parents, they both from Nigeria.
I'm full-blown Nigerian.
So I turned 12 years old.
And my dad, he quit his job over here
and ran for House of Representatives in Nigeria
because it's real messed up where he had.
Like, he's from the fucking trenches.
About to be 13, you know, that's really kind of when you really need your dad, like,
right by you know what I'm saying?
Like, he raised me the right way, but it's like, now I'm about to be a young man, you know,
like I never had the birds and the bees talk.
He never threw a football with me.
We never went to no games, nothing like that.
And I come from a Nigerian background, so he was real strict.
There was always, yes, no.
Like, uh, like, him play.
My dad didn't, him play.
Right.
So when he left, I just looked at it like, kind of resent me because he was always mean
as fuck when he, when he was around, and then he left.
But my dad ran for House of Representatives in a whole other country.
He risked everything and lost.
So when he lost over there, my mom got to take care of me, sister, two cousins and him
a little bit, you know, because he's just still trying to get his feet with in the politics
over there.
So shit got a little rough.
So I just started selling a little gas just so I could help my mom out a little bit.
She didn't know what was going on.
She just thought I was smoking.
She'll catch me smoking there and now in the machine when I was selling it.
So start skipping school a little bit.
Boom.
selling my stuff. And I ran into some of my guys and they already on like some click
click shit. You know what I'm saying? They got little clicks and stuff like that, click
beefs and stuff like that. So I was always just, you know, the cool dude. Like I didn't grow
up on a raw, right, like super crazy as a 12 year old and 13 year old. I was just, I like money.
I like to hang around, you know, women and shit, well girls at the time. But shit, start hanging
with my boys and they already had beef and I'm just like a lawyer type dude. So, I'm just like a
I kind of inherited their beef just by being around.
But I was just wanted to get the money.
Some of them wanted to get money.
Some of them just wanted to beef.
So we was all together.
We was all cool as hell.
So what is this like gang activity that you're saying that they're just just, just there's
just they got beef with different gangs or when you say clicks or is it not really gang related?
Yeah.
Not exactly gang, full-blown gang.
When we were younger, it was like more so clicks.
Like from from, it was a lot of different clicks.
Like people just used to get a little.
fist fights and stuff. It never was too real at that age. But we'll catch a couple folks,
jump them. They might catch us and jump us, you know what I'm saying? It never got too
serious. Did you ever have that?
Where people from like different high schools. You hate everybody from King High School.
Like I literally made a whole, it's so crazy you said that I literally made a whole
diss song. It's really some high school musical type shit. Not that I think about this
shit now. But like back then, like I was really, I really hated them dudes that went to the school.
Like these opposite schools and my school hyped me up to make a diss song about them
because our football team was about to play their football team.
But old time it's on some football shit, but we really hated the motherfuckers.
We see it.
We're trying to stomp their teeth at all type of shit.
They're trying to do the same to us though.
So I figure around and make the little diss song.
I can't even enjoy it because the day I dropped it, it had like 20, 30,000 streams in one night.
The whole county's tapped in because it's already the biggest game and then they already
know we beefing.
So it just brought a lot of lots.
light to it. So the next day I go to school, I'm in ISS. I happen to be in school suspension,
so I didn't even get to enjoy it. Everybody just coming by the doors and shit, just singing
it, singing my songs and shit. Just really hyping it up later on. They end up having
the game. The dudes that we beefing with, they just online on Twitter, hey, y'all better
not come over here. Like, just talking a lot of shit, like basically about what they're going
to do if we go to their school because they was at home. So we get to the game, it's like 20 of us.
We get to the game, as soon as we walk in, all eyes on us, they're not even paying attention
to the game no more because they know it's going to go down.
So we all understand.
We go literally at the end of the third quarter, before the fourth quarter even in, we are
already walking out about to wait on them.
So I come outside, see a bunch of police officers, like 40 police, because like I said, it's
a huge game.
So we really thinking like, damn, there ain't nothing going to happen because the police here,
so we're probably not even going to get to, you know, do what we want to do.
around and we all just waiting outside for them boys.
One of my home boys, he by this girl, he's not byers.
He's about 20, 30 feet away.
So next thing you know, we just hear, oh, shit, they jump in Thomas.
So we all looking like, what?
We're like, what the hell?
Thomas was just with us.
We turned around.
It's about 40 of them just surrounding Thomas, punching him, kicking them, stomping them out.
He's trying to fight.
He grabbing them and shit, tussing him with him.
He gets to the ground.
Basically, we all run up on them.
They're throwing bricks at us, throwing sticks at us, all the type of crazy shit.
We wasn't expecting all that.
So next thing you know, it just got real.
It just turned into a brawl, like the whole street, like literally from the parking
lot, the street, we fought from the front of the entrance of the football game, through
the whole parking lot outside onto the streets, like to the point we beating the motherfuckers
up on cars.
And then parents is coming.
to get their kids from the school game and seeing all this, like, people rolling around, getting
stomped, put up on the cars, getting body slammed on cars and windshields.
Like, the shit getting crazy.
It's to the point where the police don't even want to lock us up.
They just try to tell us to go home.
Like, y'all just stop.
They can't control it.
Like, every time they break it up, we keep walking.
Somebody's getting busting the head with a bottle.
Somebody getting stomped out under somebody's car.
Somebody getting choked slime.
Like, I'm like, damn, this shit's really crazy.
So one thing led to another gun was involved.
At the stadium, or is it a stadium?
What did they call that?
Yeah, stadium.
Yeah, it's gun involved.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's gun involved.
Like, my home boy, like, towards the very end of the fight, my home boy, like, hey, man, he had
a gun on him too.
So he's like, hey, man, we're not fighting these motherfuckers no more.
Like, we've been fighting 20 minutes.
We're fin to go to this neighborhood and I'm finn't kill him.
Like, he's on that.
So I got asthma and shit.
I'm already done fought like three or four different motherfuck.
as I can't run like that no more. So my bros, they running. They run into the neighborhood
to get to where we're going and he was going to do that. I'm behind everybody. So I turn
around and they follow me still. They behind me. The dudes we were just fighting and shit. They
still follow me. So I just turn around like, bro, I'm not going to be running from these folks.
So I turn around, run up on everybody, squaring up with him. My bro, his one on with a one
piece, knock him out. And he had a seizure in the middle of the street. So like, as soon as
He hit the ground, he pulled one of these, like his whole body lock up and, like, he twitching.
I got one of my bros, he stepped on his head, one of them jumped on his head.
So we didn't even end up having to shoot because after that, after their last man's got knocked
out like that, they ain't even want to fight no more.
So luckily, luckily the gun didn't get involved.
It was about to be gunplayed at the school and that probably would have been the stupidest mistake
we could have made for real.
would have turned in some petty fights to murder or aggravated assaults on school grounds, kids
endangerment, all that shit.
So that's how that went right there.
That was just, that was like when fights started getting more intense and just crazy.
Like sometimes it'd be like when we were younger, we could see him at a certain place, like
at a grocery store with their mom or something and be like, oh no, we're not going to do it.
But after that day, it was like literally anywhere you catch a motherfucker, it's up.
There was a lot of teen clubs out there.
It was a teen club.
This is the first time I ever got shot at.
So I was, I want to say.
Are there still teen clubs?
I don't know.
How old are you?
I'm 29.
Oh.
Yeah.
Fuck.
I thought teen clubs were a thing when I fucking was a kid.
When I was 17, 18 years old, there were a bunch of just tons of teen clubs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't hear about this like that.
Yeah, you're not.
You're an adult now.
You're not going to hear about it.
Yeah.
But obviously, there's still around.
Yeah, man.
So, yeah, teen club, that was the shit back then.
Like, we loved, that was our thing.
Like, I don't know how to hell we was ending up there, but we loved that shit.
Like, we thought we was grown.
We used to go to the teen clubs every weekend.
Like, yeah, like, we were grown.
How do they make money?
They're not selling alcohol.
They just charged the kids for tickets.
Yeah, but how do you, you know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, it is crazy.
It is crazy.
Yeah, man, like, the first time I ever got shot at was at a teen club thinking I'm grown.
So, it's supposed to be this big thing called The Bounce.
We were probably the most hated clique in my city.
We were beefing with like four or five different little cliques.
Like everybody know where we're from.
Who was beefing with them to everybody?
So when we went, we was already knowing what time it was when we got there.
We went around and met up at my home boy's house.
He lived on the same street that the club was at.
So everybody met up is about 40 us.
We walked from his house down to the club.
As soon as we get to the team club, we so damn deep, the security wouldn't even let us in.
We get to the door and they see just a bunch of bad-ass-kids like shirt saw, tank tops
all, like just looking like we're about to start some problem.
Security, we get in line, security tell us straight up, y'all can't get in here.
Hell no, no, no, we already know what y'all on.
So we're like, damn.
Boom, next thing you know, we see this girl.
She's like a Russian, but she used to.
but with the ops, like the people we don't mess with, like, you know, the opposition.
So we see her circle around in her car.
She was a little older than me, so she had a car by then.
She circled around in her and we see her.
So once we see her, we like, oh yeah, we know they're here.
So she drive by us and don't say nothing to us.
Don't even try to make eye contact.
When she pull off, we know she there.
So we start going across the parking lot to see where she just parked there.
He just pulled all the way down to the other end of the parking lot where nobody's parked
at.
We're like, what the hell is one other car right there.
So we start walking towards it on some macho man shit, just thinking like, okay, we got them
outnumber type shit.
We think we're about to fight like we always do.
One of them get out the car.
And next thing you know, we see four more of them get out the car right by the Russian girl.
They get out of the car.
We all talking shit to him.
One of them is strange words with one of my homeboys.
He's like, yeah, we just beat your ass at the gas station the other day.
Like, you a bitch.
So my partner, like, shit, come show me.
I'm a bitch.
Like, what's up?
He like, yeah, you're doing all that talking.
I got that hot shit.
My home boy, he just so mad because they really jumped him.
He don't got no gun on him.
But the next thing he says, as soon as the dude said, I got that hot shit, he like, well,
shit I got that hot shit too.
That was the wrong, motherfucking thing he could have said.
That was the worst thing he could have.
could have said.
As soon as he said that, he's like, oh, yeah?
He pulled out of Tech 9, man.
We 15.
He gets the dumping at the whole crowd is 40 us.
We scattered like roaches.
We scattered like roaches because we dare to fight.
I told you, we came with 40, literally 35, 40 of us walked all the way up there to go
whoops of ass.
We just was having the adrenaline rush from the last one.
So we're like, thinking it's just going to be a fight.
So as soon as he told him, yeah, he had some hot shit too.
I guess the dude got paranoid and just let that be.
bitch off. So for my first time being shot at, being shot at, and then it being a tech
nine was just insane. That shit was crazy as fuck. Like, yeah, he had motherfuckers hitting the
ground. He had motherfuckers tripping over each other. I can't even lie. Like, we, we had one
gun too, but they had a tech and I think another one of them had like a pistol or something.
So we wasn't expecting it. And when we were that young, only one person out of four of us
only had a gun. And it was like his mom's do's deuce or something. You know,
You know what I'm saying?
Like a small love.
Couldn't really do shit.
He shot like five, six times, then he was out.
He threw the gun and it landed on top of the building.
Like, he running too now.
So we all scattered like roaches and shit.
And the craziest part about that shit, like the police were in the same plaza.
They were in the same plaza while all this is going on.
Nobody got locked up.
They didn't question anybody?
They didn't track anybody down, nothing.
Nope.
And the only thing was a dude is so crazy.
A dude, an innocent bystander got shot.
That's the only person that got shot.
Like out of 40 of us moving targets, he didn't hit none of us.
The other dude, he didn't hit none of us either.
I don't know how did, God, they gotta be God, because I don't know.
But the only person got hit was an innocent bystander.
He got hitting like the leg or something, so he was all right.
But the police were more focused on making sure he was all right than trying to go, oh,
trying to go lock all of us up.
So, yeah, that was the first night gunplay.
lady got involved in my life.
What is your mom saying
at all this fucking, does she have any idea
how, that you're causing chaos?
It's so crazy because
honestly I was living a double life.
Like I was living a double life.
Like I was never like a fucked up
person like that.
Like I was always a good dude.
But it's like I was such a loyal dude.
Like I said, like
I inherited all my homeboys beef.
Like to this day like
I never really just had
just straight.
beef because of me.
Like, hey, I don't like you
for something you did, so was you.
So, the whole time, like,
I'm a good dude, so that's what my mom's seeing.
But it's like, every time I'm out,
like, I got to stand on this business, like, you know,
this shit.
So it would be times, you know,
it's so crazy you ask me that
it would be times that, like, my mom
will find bullet shells, like,
in this shit crazy, Mom, when you see this?
But I gotta go tell on myself, like, it'll be time she found bullet shells in her car.
But she loved me so much.
I was just like, she couldn't see me doing nothing wrong.
So she asked me about the bullet shells, and I'm just like, I'm making up shit off the dome.
Like, oh, my homeboy, he in the Navy.
He had a necklace for bullet shells and shit broke in the car.
And that's how I got in there.
She's like, oh, okay.
You know, whole time I'm knowing.
Like, she knows that I'm lying, but she doesn't want to believe I'm lying pretty much.
then like a week after that
because I didn't
got in the shootout in her shit
in her car
yeah yeah yeah
got in the shootout in my mama car
for sure
you're bad kid
it wasn't supposed to go like that
it wasn't supposed to go like that it was a lick gone bad
it was a lit gone bad
what is what I mean is a lick of you
it was a robbery gone bad yeah
how old were you
I was about 16 there
and you were robbing somebody
yeah what was that
Some hose
Hose told me
Like they overly gas somebody up
Made it seem like he was the plug
Right
But the man the man wasn't talking about shit
The man
He had some little gas
And little shit like that
But he didn't really have nothing like that
So
We can go into that too
You go to rob him
Yeah we go to rob him
As soon as we
As soon as we get to the house
we try to tell him come to the car, he's like, nah, just come in the house, but only one of y'all
can come in because it was like four of us.
Right.
So he never met us before.
The girl was just telling us about him, making it seem like he's some type of kingpin and shit.
Then when we get there, I ask her, like, how much drugs in the house?
She's like, two pounds of weed.
I'm like, you just made it seem like he a kingpin is for us.
If we split two pounds of weed, that ain't really shit like that.
So I tell her, like, see if he got any clean, any hard, any money.
Like, she's like, oh, I don't know, I don't see it, da-da-da-da.
But we finally convinced him to come outside.
Because at first, like, he was standing on that one person come in, da-da-da-da.
We're like, we're in the rush, man.
Like, I got to go, da-da.
Just try to make anything up for him to come out.
But we got the money for him.
We're showing him the money.
Like, just come outside.
He come outside.
I'm not going to lie.
This motherfucker is street smart to death.
As soon as he come outside, I, I, I, I, I, I, you come outside.
I hop out the passenger side.
Another one of my partners hop out the passenger backside,
and we're about to hop out on them at the same time.
But as soon as we hop out the car, he starts shooting.
He starts shooting off the rip.
Like, we didn't even get the chance to dab him up, shake his hand.
Like, he knew, by the way, we got out of the car
because one of my homeboy had a ski mask on.
So, you know what I'm saying?
He doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out.
We were thinking he was going to get up on the,
You know what I'm saying?
Like just come to the car.
We thought he was green the way the girl explained it.
But he was on that though.
He started shooting at my mall car once again.
The car didn't get hit.
A lot of these shooters we got it, they didn't have no aim.
So God was blessing me.
But shit, car didn't get hit.
I don't story short.
We get back in the car and some bullet shells end up in the car and end up everywhere.
So I don't know what happened to him, though.
He all right, maybe.
But, yeah, the robbery went bad.
The lick went bad.
We got no money, we got no drugs.
Like, that's when I started realizing like, damn, man, I, like, this robbery shit come
with more, it comes with more problems than it do benefits.
Like everything has to go right for a robbery, but one little thing go wrong and it's, it can
be, you know, life in prison, you know, it can be your life, cost you your life, you
can get shot, you know, anything.
So it's like, I ain't really like in Licks after like that, that was one.
that was an unsuccessful lick
that made me not really like licks
like that no more.
This was my first home invasion.
Basically,
same thing.
Somebody told me about
a lick.
I'm already thinking you just said,
you said talking about
that's why I didn't like doing licks anymore.
All these things can go wrong.
I can only imagine how many more things
can go wrong with a home invasion
since you don't know who's in the home.
You don't know if there's weapons.
You don't know.
You know what I mean?
It just seems like that there's just so many more things that could go wrong.
Yeah, that's probably one of the most heinous crimes that, like, on the street to commit.
Like, that one you got to get real up-close and personal.
You got to really, you got to really go in there with that attitude.
Like, I'm coming out with everything I want.
Yeah.
Yeah, for real.
Because I can die and you can die.
And it's not going to be me.
It got to be me or you.
So, you know.
So, yeah, you don't know what, like you said, you don't know what's behind that door.
So when you walk in there, shit, you got to be ready for whatever, you got to be on that,
no half stepping on none of that shit.
So I have one of my homeboys, he, he chilling over there, my partner here in the house with
him.
And this dude supposed to be the plug, he's supposed to have, you know, a lot of weight, you
know what I'm saying, a lot of soft, he got hard, got pills, he got gas, so shit, I'm
like, oh, hell yeah, this is sweet lick.
He let me know that this one, Instagram was still new.
So, dude, we still young.
Like I said, I was like 16.
Dude posting some stacks like on his chest, like, lay back, just taking a picture like this.
So like, back then, 16 years old, shit, 10, 20,000.
That's a lot to us.
That's crazy money to us.
So we see that laying on his chest.
And we're like, shit, we gotta go get that.
Me and one of my partners, we go to the house.
My home boy, he already there.
So we tell him like, hey, oh.
We're about to pull up now.
You know, he already know what we're about to do, but he acting like he's cool with them, too.
They got a couple females over there, a couple of dudes.
So as soon as we get to the front door, like, it's like some, we was on some James Bond
007 type of shit.
Like, I'm on one side of the door like this, my partner, he on the other side of the
door like this.
We got our backs to it.
We rang the doorbell.
It just so happens that our home boys are the one that opened the door.
When he opened the door, my first instinct is to make it seem like we robbing him too.
So I fake like I'm going up top on him with the pistol.
Fink like I pistol up them just punched him in the head a little bit, but I ain't actually
hit him with my gun.
But as soon as he do that, I'm just like, yeah, give it up.
My partner, he running him beside me.
He put the gun on him too.
Like, get it up.
Boom.
It's a dude right behind him.
So while I'm getting my dude, while I'm getting the inside man, while I'm on him like
I'm, you know, robbing him.
He's hitting the ground, tell him, get on the flow, get on the fucking flow, give me everything.
He's like, I ain't got shit.
I ain't got shit.
He get on his knees.
And I'm like, stop lying.
I'm acting like I cocked a gun back like I'm about to shoot him in the head.
My bro, he's so in character.
This motherfucker crazy.
He go in there and really do pistol up the dude.
The other dude, not my friend, but he pistol up the dude behind him.
So once he do that, I see him psych out.
So I got to be in character still, too.
Like, you really just bust him upside the head?
Like, his shit split open.
So now I got to act like I'm pissed to open him again, fake beating my homeboy up.
And he's like, all right, I got you.
I got you.
So he go in his pockets, give me everything he got.
So it'll make it easier for his friend to give it up, too.
Like, once he sees him giving it up, his friend will give it up.
So first dude, we go to, I get the money from my homeboy, act like I'm robbing him.
He get the money from the other dude.
Oh, Tom is damn their whole kickback, like a get-together on the, on the,
back porch. It's like three or four females, they're chilling, three or four females, two
dudes to supposedly plug. And right after that, we go to the back where they're at. So now
we go to the back. We up the pistol on our own to everybody put their hands up, get up.
He's trying to like really act tough for real. He's trying to bug. Like, I ain't got shit
for y'all. I ain't got shit. Do what I got to do. So now at this point, like, we're trying
to get in and get out. Because we're like in the suburbs right now. So we were like, yeah,
you know what I'm saying? Anything could go wrong. So he's still standing firm on that. He
pulled out some like $1,000 out his pocket. He's like, yeah, that's all I got. We're
like, hell now. Like, fuck that. We just seen you post $20,000, $10, $15, $20,000 on your
chest. Like, you got some more money. Like, you got some drugs. You got something.
They're like, that's all I got. That's all I got. Boom, my partner hit him in the head with
the pistol. He's like, fuck you. You know, he's talking shit. Like, he's trying to stand
on that shit. Like, he don't want to get that shit up. So, uh, after my partner, a pistol
with him, he's like saying, fuck you, this, that, that, I ain't got shit for y'all.
The females, they giving up their money and shit. The dude, all the other dudes on
on the porch giving up their money and their drugs, whatever they got on them, they
getting it to us. But he's trying to stand firm on this on my home, boy, he pissed.
He's like, man, fuck, there's something to kill his eye.
So I'm like, I look at him like, I don't know if he's in character or if you really psyched
himself all the way out.
Like, he really wanted to do that because that wasn't the plan.
Right.
Yeah.
So I'm like, in my head, I'm like, hell no, you better not kill this motherfucker.
We can't, you know what I said?
Just to take some shit, not for a murder.
Like, I ain't never had seen no killing at that time.
Like, so he cocked his gun back, aiming at the dude's head.
He's just like, bro, you got five seconds to give me everything, empty this house, I'm
just blow your brains out.
Dude, he was saying, he was standing on it.
He wasn't going for it.
My home boy shot right past his head.
So we just hear it.
I'm like, oh, shit.
I don't think he just shot him, for real.
Because the dude hit the ground.
He's screaming.
Ah!
All the girls screaming.
He's like, all right, everything you want, it's in the microwave.
Everything he wants is in the microwave.
In the microwave.
So in his kitchen, he got a microwave that's installed already, pre-installed, and he's installed,
in the kitchen, then he got one that's just in the corner.
So that's the decoy microwave.
So he just got drugs and a couple more, like, $100 in there.
So we really like go to the microwave and he really only got like half a pound or something
like that, you know what I'm saying?
Like no money in there.
So we really like, at that point in time, like, I'm really like, man, I'm just ready
to go because this shit not worth it.
You already than shot.
We in the suburbs, like, they're about to call the police on this.
So we're trying to get up out of there.
We grabbed the little shit.
The craziest part, like, we wasn't really stunting the girls.
Like, we came for the plug.
We don't be trying to harm no girls or involve girls in it, but it's so crazy because
I'm collecting their phones because just so they don't call the police on us, you know what I'm saying?
Hopefully the neighbors didn't.
I'm thinking, hopefully the neighbors don't, but I'm going to make sure they don't call
the police.
So I took everybody phone that was on the porch, I forgot one person.
She's so crazy that, like, while I'm about to leave, she's like, hold on, you forgot my phone.
So she gave me her phone.
I'm like, damn, I felt bad.
I felt bad there.
I ain't gonna lie.
Like I felt bad.
But shit, it was like, it was just business.
Like, you were just like, just, what is it, accessory?
Like, it wasn't meant for you, but hey man, I gotta kind of that.
So we got the phones, we getting the car.
We throw all the phones on the side of the road up the street, every home.
And like, we looked at each other like, me and my home, but we just looked at each other like, no, bro, we can't do this type shit no more.
Like, we better than that.
Like, we were leaders.
We was always leaders.
our little crew. So it's like, bro, we almost just crashed out and we ain't get shit. Like,
it's some bullshit, bro. When you say the decoy microwave, you think that that was just some
bullshit that there was actually a better stash or more somewhere else? That's just like,
he's got this to say, hey, oh, that's it. That's all I got. And you get it. You're like,
okay, it looks like this is it. But really, there's probably someplace, maybe another place in
the house that does have stuff. Yeah, he probably had some bricks in that moment. I don't know.
I don't know.
I just seen all that money, so I know he had way more weight than that because they like,
like I said, they like to do soft.
Like, they sniff powder.
All those folks was geeked up.
They sniffing powder.
I didn't see no powder.
I didn't see no pills.
Ex-smiling, nothing.
Like, just some little Ead in $1,000.
Like, that's crazy.
So, yeah, I really do think, like, I think he was ready to die by his product.
Like, that motherfucker was ready to die by this product.
He got pistol whip, shot the gun shot right past his head.
Like, and he still wasn't trying to give it up.
He gave us a little microwave, but like you said, I really feel like it was probably like
a throw off.
Like, look, I'm gonna just give him, I'm gonna tell him where this is and, you know what I'm
saying, just to get us about it down.
But yeah, like after that, like I said, we really just, like, we really just said we don't
want to rob those no more, like, unless we know for a fact, like it's there, but we gotta just
try and start doing some other shit.
That's how like the Rico came about because it was like, Rico is, um, racketeering, influence
corrupt organization.
So basically they were saying we was running a criminal street enterprise, and they were labeling
me the leader.
And how old were you at this point?
I was 20 when I caught my case.
I had just turned 20.
But, yeah, because they said since it was so many crimes, like, there was 23 of us on my case.
I have 22 co-defendants.
It was like 116 charges on there.
I was going to say real quick, I was just thinking about the home invasions.
I was locked up with a guy who had done home invasions,
and somebody of his, it was a, I'm not even sure,
it was an informant, came to him and said,
I know where there's a house.
I want to say it was a warehouse.
I knew where there was like a warehouse,
where they had a bunch of
a bunch of bud
and some cash.
And so he goes there to rob them.
Well, it was really the DEA.
Or AATF or D.E.
I don't know.
You know, they were doing that reverse thing
operations.
And so they were there waiting for him.
So he walks into the place.
You know, he comes in the place,
kicks in the door,
whatever, walks in there.
He's waving his gun and everything.
doesn't really see anybody
and I want to say
I'm going to say it's a DEA agent
I don't know
DEA agent walks around the corner
and says freeze and he
just turns and fires
he says he didn't say
he was a cop or nothing he's like I never heard
anything no law enforcement
DE I just heard freeze
turn around just fired hit the dude
right and like actually I think he said he hit him
in the
in the hip
he got 30 years
30 years
so we just shot a law enforcement
and keep in mind
it was supposed to be
the way it was set up to him
or explained to him
it was an easy lick
there's they got a bunch of drugs in there
nobody's got any weapons
there's one or two guys
they're just sitting on the product
there's a bunch of cash
bunch of fucking pounds of
of whatever
whether it was bud or
I'm pretty sure it was butter
so I don't know whether there's bud
or soft or what it was but
he just thought it was just so easy because it had been set up.
It had been explained to him that it was so easy.
And just that one mistake, that one, boom.
Oh, by the way, he took off and ran away.
He got away.
They picked him up a couple days later, like driving his car or something,
they pulled over and grabbed him.
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That's great.
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Because you just don't know what could go wrong.
You just don't know.
And you think it, and it could be, it could say.
sound like such an easy lick, and then you get in there, and you don't know who the fucking
that guy is.
You don't know what's going on with this guy's life.
You don't know what he's.
No, no, no, that's my buddy.
I grew up with him.
Well, you don't know.
Tommy may have gotten fucking, he may have gotten fucking arrested, and this is his way out of
jail, and he says, hey, man, I know where the fucking place.
It's an easy fucking lick.
You walk in, boom, you're done.
It's over.
I knew another guy, and I've actually mentioned this before.
It's a kid.
who's like 18, I'm going to say he's 18.
I don't know exactly.
He was young.
He was super young.
18 years old, his brother and his, and a buddy come into the house and say, and his brother
says, yo, little bro, I need you.
I need you.
And he's like, what is it?
He's never been in trouble before ever.
I need you.
He was, what is it?
He said, man, we got to, we're going to fucking, you know, it's a home invasion.
It's a stash house.
We're going to go rob them.
It's fucking easy.
All you've got to do is drive.
he says okay
matter of fact remember Zach
Zach actually knew the kid
the guy remember I
I met him in the medium
but Zach like talked to him
anyway
and by the way
this is so fucked up
this kid had just was like
the nicest fucking guy bro
and so he jumps in the car
he drives his brother
his brother's like man all you got to do is drive
his brother and his friend
jump out of the car
they start running towards the house
before they even get to the house,
vehicles start pulling up.
Like once again, reverse sting.
Guys come around the corner,
law enforcement comes around the sides of the house.
They fucking pull their guns.
The brother and his friends start shooting.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
There's a whole shootout.
His brother gets killed.
They kill his brother right there in the front yard.
The kid, he thinks they're being robbed.
He just punches it.
Because when you're adrenaline shut,
You don't realize that this guy says, oh, that his vest says FBI or, you know, Pinellas, you know, Task Force.
You don't fucking read that.
I know there's a fucking guy who's running at me with a gun.
That's all you know.
So he punches it and starts going.
Well, the other cars pull in and they block him off.
So he gets out of the car and starts running.
They fire at him.
He gets hit in the leg.
He loses his leg.
His brother got killed.
they charge him with his brother's murder
or whatever you want to call it
because you know you know that's what they'll do
so they charge him with that death
he got I want to say he got 30 years
Zach actually knows exactly how much time he did get
and he lost his leg
so he's in a wheelchair
at the medium security prison
at Coleman in a wheelchair
brother's dead
lost his fucking leg
I think he got like 30 years.
It might have been 20, but let's say 30.
So do you see what I'm saying?
What did he do?
He's fucking playing.
He's sitting there playing like Xbox or something on the couch.
And 30 minutes later, he's laying on the fucking, you know, on the pavement with his fucking leg blown off and his brother's fucking dead.
Because some guy said, hey, man, this is easy.
Oh, it's so easy.
That just seems insane to me.
Definitely.
Because you never know, like you said, you never know what's behind that door.
So the risk, I mean, the reward, you got to know for a fact that reward is great before
you take that risk.
Like that's why Robin, that's a different type of ball game right there.
Like a jack being a jack boy.
Like yeah, that's different right there for sure.
I remember I was hitting this lick.
I was doing a little burglaries and shit too.
That was my first charge.
My first time going to jail was for a burglary.
We just skipped schools, stake people house out, scope the scene and just kick the door
and just take shit.
But we started off doing it like when nobody was home type shit, like before the whole
home invasion shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, shit like that, like, we got some little petty shit out the crib, like some TVs,
laptops, some money, some jewelry.
But it was the thing that really woke me up was, you.
Dude had a pistol right next to his bedside.
Then he had hollow tips in it, like in the clip.
Then he had a 50 box of bullets and everything.
So while I'm robbing the house, it really just popped in my head like, damn.
If he was in this house, he would have killed me.
Because I'm the one kicked the door.
I'm the first one went in the master bedroom.
So as soon as I walked in, like literally he doesn't have to go anywhere.
He could just reach, it's right there on his dresser.
Right.
He could have literally been there, grabbed it and killed me as soon as I walked in.
Because when we were just doing the burglaries, we didn't have no guns on us.
We were just kicking the doors and running in people.
How it's like, young, dumb shit.
You know, like, damn.
I was just thinking about it while I'm getting his gun from the bedside.
I'm just like, damn, if he was in here, I would have been dead.
But we, you know, finished robbing and I was sitting in everything and we left.
That's actually the first time I got locked up.
I felt it in the air.
I felt that shit in the air.
My homeboys tried to tell me, but I was just so anxious.
Like I had been, burglary was my thing at that time.
Like I loved it.
I got a rush from it.
Like, everybody was going to school.
I skipped school and go commit burglary.
I was just thinking his dad is a politician.
Trying to be a house of representative.
He's a bad fucking kid, bro.
My dad leaving literally should have motivated me, but it literally did the, it made me rebel.
He comes over here as an immigrant probably worked fucking because the Nigerians, they're either doing
one or two things.
working three fucking jobs or they're scamming.
There's no in between.
He's probably working three fucking jobs,
decides to go back, thinks he's going to save his
fucking country and become a politician and clean
up the fucking place. And you're out here robbing
fucking people. Yeah. Crazy.
Crazy as fuck.
My dad, he came to America
shining people's shoes. Like, he had a
dishwashing job. He had a shoe
shining job. And I
think he had another disbushing job. Yeah. He paid
his way through college with these, like,
low budget. Low
budget-ass job. Like, he was getting them in nothing. Like, literally would get on a knee
and shine people shoot for money. He was really a natural born hustler. Like, my dad,
that's where I had, that's where I had kind of got it from, I guess it was in me, like,
just to get some money. Even though I was doing it the wrong way, like, I just, I was
chasing paper, like, at a young age, just a kid. Like, everybody around me know, like,
I was one of the first ones in my circle getting money, like, been like that.
Well, how did you get, how did you get busted for the burglary?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Back to the Burglary.
I felt it in the air and I really feel like there's karma because once again, this one was
actually a lick that we knew.
Like we knew the person and we were cool with the person.
See, I'm cool with the person.
This is, this was where I knew like, like I said, I felt it in the air.
So I was cool with the dude.
We had a circle, but he wasn't in our circle, but I was still cool with him.
He used to drive us around sometime too.
I shouldn't even say anything, bro.
I stole a dude's identity I knew.
Fucked cash like $400,000 in his name, you know.
I feel bad about that.
Poor Scott.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Sorry, Scott.
Be all right, Scott.
Yeah, man.
Dude was cool, man.
That was my homeboy.
But, like, he wasn't in our circle, but I was still cool with him.
So when they told me, like, yeah, we want to rob him.
His dad got, like, 40 guns.
He got a gun collection.
Like, his dad strapped up.
We go in there.
Like, we good.
for a minute.
And this time, yeah, I'm 17.
This one I was cut.
I never went to juvenile my whole life.
Like, that's why I really just thought, it was one point of time I thought that I was going
to be like the biggest criminal alive and never get caught.
Like, I was just going to sell drugs and rob people.
Like, I was fine.
I don't know if it was the drugs because I was smoking.
Poping Molly drinking liquor at a young age.
Well, the more you get away with it, the more emboldened you become, you start thinking,
I'm just fucking, I'm just that.
I don't know how these other guys get busted.
guys get busted. I'm just that fucking good at it.
For real, I used to say that shit. When all my homeboys would go to juvenile, I'll be like,
man, they're just dumb. They don't know what they're doing. Like, I never go to jail.
I commit way more crimes than I don't go to jail. I was too smart for my own good.
So with that being said, they told me, yeah, yeah, his dad got all these guns. Let's just
go on the spot, get the guns while his dad at working here at school. We're going to skip school
this day, kick the door, and boom. First I'm like, hell now, man. I fought with him.
Like, that's my boy. Like, even though he wasn't that close, I just felt.
bad like hell not like I'd rather go rob a random person and somebody I know and I'm actually
cool with even though we're not super close so initially I tell them no so we all go link up we
skip school today we all go link up at my home boys house and they talk about it again it's like
yeah man we need to go do it right we need to go do it like instead of just a random like free
pick like we just wake up and just free pick like usually we like houses with the garages that got
the window in them so you can see
inside the garage and you can know if somebody's home.
So we go in somebody's driveway, look in the garage, if nobody's, uh, if we don't see
a car in there, we're going in there.
Ring on the doorbell.
Nobody comes to the door.
We go around back, kick the door in.
So first we get to the dude that I know we get to his crib and it's two big-ass dogs
barking.
So automatically that throw the whole plan out because like, damn, we didn't know his dogs.
Like if we kick this door in these dogs going to attack it.
because we had to shoot one of these dogs or something.
So that's why we like, when we get there, we ring the doorbells, the dogs come rushing
big-ass pit bulls and shit.
We're like, oh, hell, no, we ain't going to there, because we're going to have to do the most.
So when playing A fail, we should have just chilled.
Like, okay, we ain't do that?
Like, let's just chill.
Like, instead, I'm just so thirsty for this shit.
I'm like, no, fuck that.
We're going to go to this neighborhood and just free pick a random house.
I go to a rental house, we pull in the neighborhood.
It's a truck following behind us.
This was the crazy part.
It was a truck following behind us.
When we got in the neighborhood, we made a left, he made a left.
We make a right, he make a right.
Like, just trailing us.
So my home boys, they're like, man, this car following us or some shit.
We just went to somebody's house, but we didn't do nothing.
We didn't commit a crime here.
We just went to somebody's house.
So I'm thinking in my head, bro, we ain't this shit.
Why would we be following us?
He's not following us. Y'all are tripping. So I'm like, matter of fact, just let me out
in the middle of the street. I'm going to find us a house.
It's like, all right. He, the dude, before we stop, the dude go around us in the neighborhood
and just pull off. So I'm thinking like, nothing of it, really.
I get out. I go into somebody driveway. I look through the garage windows and no cars
was there. So I try to go through the side door to just see if it was open and it was closed.
So, my friends, they pulled back around and they're like, what's up?
I'm like, yeah, it's good.
Let's do this one.
They're like, come back to the car.
They're like, come here, come here.
So I get back to the car.
I'm like, yeah, let's do this one.
This one's sweet.
This is a sweet one.
They're like, hell no, bro.
That dude following us.
We just bust the U-turn and he's just sitting in the cul-de-sac just waiting.
Mind you, we used to like to hit, like, licks in the suburbs.
Like, you know what I'm saying, rich houses and shit like that.
So I'm like, I'm like.
Like, you're acting scary as fuck.
Like I'm just thinking they're just punking out type shit.
And I'm just, I'm already emptied up.
Like I said, I'm ready to just do it.
They're like, no, man, I'm telling you.
He's following us.
He's watching us.
So long story short, we leave that neighborhood.
I get mad at them.
I'm like, all right.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, y'all don't want to go in.
Fuck it, man.
Y'all acting scary, man.
Let's go there.
Let's go find another house.
So I get back in the car.
Mind you, whole time, they were right.
The truck was following us, most definitely.
And he called the police on us already.
So what did he do?
He saw you at the other house and thought something's up.
See, we were in a Monte Carlo.
So around these times, you know, that's a suspicious-looking-ass car.
It's four blackmails in the car in the suburbs.
In the Monte Carlo.
Like, we just look like we don't belong.
But I'm not thinking of that.
Like, and then we kids.
So it's like, why y'all not in school?
Like, y'all up to no good.
So I'm not thinking that far.
I'm just thinking like, man, they're scared.
They tripping.
Like, he's not worried about this whole time he was.
He called the police.
We ended up leaving that neighborhood and going to a neighborhood across the street.
We pull into this cul-de-sac.
Do the same thing.
Find one with a window, look through it, no cars there.
Cool.
We go through the back door.
I kick it down.
Boom.
I kick the dough down.
We go in there.
We hit all the rooms and hit all the houses.
Nobody happened to be there.
So it wasn't a home invasion.
It was a burglar.
Nobody was there.
So we just wiped the house down.
You know, got some TVs, laptops.
Like I said, a little bit of jewelry, a little bit of money and a gun.
We leave out the neighborhood, and as soon as we leave out the neighborhood, the last neighborhood that we were just in was across the street from this neighborhood where we actually hit the lick at.
So we get on the main street.
Well, we about to get on the main street, and I had a house.
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Because I had a stash house, like,
me and my mom had got into it at this time.
Just me being dumb, not coming home.
And I try to come home one day,
and she locked me out.
I couldn't get in the house.
So I'm like, you know what, fuck it.
I'm on my own now.
So I had some home girls that live down the street.
They kind of like took me in at this time when I'm going on a lick spree.
Like every day I'm waking up trying to hit a lick.
I'm trapping.
I'm just doing all type of shit.
I'm just wilding.
So my home boy's like, bro, let's just drop it off at your stash spot because I've been stacking up from licks.
Every time I go hit a lick, I just put it in these girls living room.
I'll go hit a lick and put the shit in their living room.
Wake up the next day, go hit another lick, put it in their living room.
I'm a home boy.
They're like, yeah, let's just drop it at the stash spot.
We'll go sell all this shit tomorrow.
We got a Chinese man.
He buy all the electronics.
We got, you know what I'm saying, a gun.
We're going to keep that, this, that, that TVs and all this shit.
So I'm like, man, fuck that, bro.
Let's go get this money, man.
We're going to go to China, man, and go sell these shit.
Like, right now, let's get the money.
So they're like, you sure, bro?
You don't want to wait?
I'm like, no, let's get it now.
Like, bro, ain't no point waiting.
Like, we got to go get this shit.
And at this time, I didn't woke up.
every day for a series of days and hit a lick. So it's like becoming part of my natural routine.
I go hit a lick, drop it off, drop it off. And I was like, man, I'm tired of dropping shit off.
I got already got so much shit at the house. Let me just go make some money today.
So instead of listening to my home boys and dropping the shit off at the stashbought,
we try to go to China Man to go sell the electronics. So we in this neighborhood right here,
where we hit the lick. And,
And this neighborhood is where we were supposed to hit the lick the first time.
As soon as we get on the main street, 12 get behind us.
When 12 get behind us.
Twitch 12.
Oh, the police.
Yeah, the police get behind us.
As soon as they get behind us, when we make a right turn, they make a right turn.
Same kind of thing.
They following us.
We get on the side street and we turn into a neighborhood.
They follow us in the neighborhood.
So I'm telling my home boy, hey, bro.
hit the gas, make this next turn, I'm gonna hop out and run.
And he older to me.
This will fuck me up.
He's older to me.
I'm 17.
He's 24 years old.
So he's like, no, I don't run.
Don't run.
We good.
He's just pulling us over regular shit.
Like, we good.
Me being young, not knowing no better, I never got pulled.
Like I said, I never got arrested before.
So I'm like, okay, he older than me.
He's about seven years older than me, so he probably know what he's talking about.
We get pulled over.
they detain us.
They don't lock us up at first.
They search the car and they find all the stolen shit.
But at this time, like, nobody reported it stolen.
So y'all don't even know that the shit is stolen for real.
Y'all really profiling us.
But literally, we know the dude that was in that truck called the police.
And that police officer had been just going up and down this same street for 45 minutes,
just waiting to see a Monte Carlo before.
black males in it. So he waited and seen us and followed us. So since he got a call that we
was suspicious, he pulled us over and seen the shit. But there was no call about us committing
the crime at that point. So at that point, they have like the GBI, not FBI, but GBI, like
just investigators, different branches, not like not just regular Cobb County police. Like they got
different branches, all these different branches out here, motherfuckers and suits and all type of shit,
like dress shirts and we're like what's going on so they taking pictures of our face while we're in
the cuss we still not even under arrest yet they're taking pictures of us telling us put the
lift the bottom of our shoe so they can take a picture of the footprints like uh the bottom of our
shoe and shit so the whole time we like damn like they just know we hit a lick even though nobody
reported it they just really they know like they see all this shit so they're already trying to build
the case before they even got any proof that we did anything it's only a matter of time somebody
comes home home hey i
I got Rob, boom, I'm missing this, this and this, and this, and we found this, this and
they car.
That'd be a first for law enforcement.
We already got them.
What?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Like, I really couldn't believe this shit.
So they take a picture of all our faces, take a picture of all the bottom of our shoes.
They take us to the precinct because, like I said, at that time, they still can't take
us to jail because they don't know what crime we committed.
So I don't even know to this day if that was legal.
Like, you literally just pulled us over because somebody said, we're suspicious.
Nobody said we committed a crime.
This could all be our shit.
We ain't do nothing wrong yet to y'all.
But y'all still took pictures of us
and took pictures of the bottom of our shoes
knowing that it's coming from a burglary stolen.
So they take us to the precinct.
Man, the detective, he already knew me like the back of his hand.
Like, he didn't call me by my government.
He called me Ebo.
Like, that's my nickname.
Like, that's really my last name.
the beginning of my last name, but that's like what I go by in the street.
So he's like, what's up, Ebo?
So I'm looking like, what the fuck?
How he knows?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
He's like, what did he say to me?
He was like, I was like, how you know me?
He was like, I know all about you.
And I know about that horseshoe on your arm.
So we're from Horseshoe Ben, 2,200.
That's the RICO that we had.
That was the name of our neighborhood, 2,200, Horseshoe Ben.
So, everybody had like little horseshoe tattoos and shit.
So he like, shit, yeah, I know about that horseshoe on your arm too.
I'm thinking I got all the sense.
I'm like, yeah, you're like, you're going to tell me what that horseshoe stand for?
I'm like, shit, I'm a Colts fan.
You know, Indianapolis's got that same logo, so I just tell him, yeah, I'm a Colts fan.
He's like, oh, you want to, he played a good cop, bad cop shit.
At first he was trying to be cool with me.
Then he, oh, you want to insult my intelligence, motherfucker.
I'll have you up under the jail.
Like, tonight, yeah, da-da-da-da.
Like, you're not going to tell me shit?
You're not going to tell me nothing?
I'm like, hell, no, I ain't got shit to tell you.
Boom.
I do perfect.
My home boy, he going there.
He do perfect.
Next home boy, he going there, he do perfect.
The only motherfucker that fold on us is the 24-year-old.
We all looking up to this man, like, he posted be like, you know, first time I met him, he had
an AK-47, I'm 17.
It's my first time seeing a chopper seeing a stick.
So I'm like, you know what, damn, he in the street, cool.
You know, he trapped.
He was selling shit.
I looked at him like he was deeper in the streets than me.
more mature, more season, like he would know what to do?
What did he say?
They walked in and he said, I think these three guys just robbed the place.
Man, look, man, this is the craziest shit I ever heard, man.
The man going to all us keep it solid, me and the other two.
This last dude, he's the only one, and you know who you is too, boy.
He'd go in there and tell them folks, hey, they question them about a robbery.
He's like, I ain't know nothing about a robbery.
We just went to Ebo Auntie House.
He told me that was his auntie house
and he just got all his shit
he was helping her move
That's what he told me
But he went in there and got all the shit
So I'm like, damn
Now you telling the police that
I coerced it basically
Like you telling him this my aunt
And I told you to give me a ride
Because he never went in the house
He's smart as fuck
He had us young dumb ass
motherfuggers go in the house
While he sat in the car
He was the driver
So now it makes it seem like
Oh he's trying to make it seem like
He just gave me a ride
To go to my aunts and help her move
Whole time I kicked the door
rob him for everything.
And he really just told them folks that.
So now you letting them know instead of not saying nothing, you letting them know like, yes,
Evo is the one that told us go here.
So long story short, we sit in the precinct like three or four hours, man.
I guess work hours, you know, it was nine to five.
People that work nine to five, they're about to get out of work.
Dude get home from work and call the police.
So they come back in the room like, yep, find out exactly what house you robbed.
You go into jail.
You ready?
And then he was like, uh, like, I'm like, shit, let's do it.
Like, you're like, you sure you don't want to tell me anything?
I'm like, hell, no, I'm straight.
Just going to take me to jail, man.
Did you see the 24-year-old walk out of the front and fuck it?
Man.
You guys later.
Yeah, like, and this shit was so crazy because, like I said, this is my first child.
I never went to juvenile.
So when he told me, he told.
He told me that he told when we all in the handcuffs in the room.
You know what I'm saying?
He told me, he told.
Like, when everyone coming back in, we're like, what you tell them?
What you're telling him?
What you say?
What you said?
Everybody like, didn't say nothing.
He'd come in and like, yeah, man, I just told him it was your aunt's house like, and we
were just moving shit, we're good, we good, they believe me.
I'm like, you stupid ad bitch.
That's the dumbest shit you could ever did, bro.
He knew.
He knew.
He knew what he did.
He tricked us.
He gave off the image that he was just so street and he's the only one that went
to go tell him.
And threw me under the bus.
And why the fuck out of everybody, he say my name?
Like, God damn, you real little bitch, bro.
Like, for real, though.
So, yeah, we go to jail.
I ended up keeping it so real.
Like, for him to keep it so fucking fake, it's crazy.
Because I kept it so real because we had a homeboy on the case.
It was four of us.
Like I said, three of us were solid.
One of them told that it was my auntie's house.
He didn't directly tell, but he dri-snitched on me, basically.
So one of our co-defendants, he already was on probation for a burglary.
So he panicking.
It's bad for him.
Yeah, the rest of us, the driver, he just drove.
He never went in.
So he's in the bed shape.
Then my homeboy, he on juvenile probation, but for some little petty fighting and shit at school or something.
Me, I'm fresh.
Like, I got a clean slate.
I've never been locked up before.
So my homeboy that's on probation for the burglary, we all, like, come up with a plan.
Like, okay, me and my homeboy who's already on probation for the juvenile probation, we're going to take the charge.
like we're going to free him up and say that he didn't have nothing to do with it.
So I literally, I went to court that day.
I wouldn't even let my parents come into court because I knew what I was about to do.
You know, I know it was going to probably break their heart, seeing me just take the whole phone,
be the whole mastermind for a burglary.
They would have been like, what the hell?
When you say your parents, was your dad back?
Yeah, my dad had came back from Nigeria at the time to come to my first court day, of course.
Did you?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So, yeah, at first I had no bond.
They didn't give me no bond.
So I sat in there like 30 days.
45 days, something like that.
I had court.
I just told my parents wait outside
because I already knew
I was going to just take the fall for him.
So I went in there,
told them basically like, yeah, I did it.
I went in there and got it, da, da, da, da.
And they really wanted him,
like, the shit so crazy
because you remember I told you,
they took pictures of the bottom of our shoes
with the designs.
And I had on like some
Kevin Durant's,
and he had on some Air Force Ones.
Air Force Wans have a real distinctive bottom.
Like, they just got circles at the bottom of it, a bunch of circles.
And I'm the one that kicked the door.
But they wanted him so bad.
And since he had a prior burglary, like, they forensics or not forensics.
I don't know if it's forensic for burglaries, but the detectives, they came up with the sketch
and said that the footprints on the door that I kicked match up to his shoe.
And he didn't even do shit.
Like, that's how I knew, like, back then as a child, I knew police will frame you if they want you.
No, that's not true.
Them motherfuckers will frame the shit out of you
because I dead ass like, I mean, I already got convicted of it.
I kicked that door and he did not do that shit.
But since they wanted him and they already had a better chance of proving
that he was guilty because he has a prior burglary,
they pulled up the bottom of his shoe
and they pulled up a picture of the door and said that his shoe matched
and I knew for a thousand percent of fact his shoe was never on that door.
It was mine.
So it was just like, damn, they wanted him so bad.
I took the charge for him, but just because he was still there, they still charged him
with it, but like, it was no way that he could beat it.
So I just really basically went in there and threw myself under the bus for no reason.
Because if I just would have shut the fuck up and didn't say anything and just try to fight it out,
I probably could have beat the case because they wanted him.
Like I said, they matched my shoe to his shoe, like crazy shit.
Like, they really just wanted him like that.
So, but it's all good.
I end up going to court and they sentenced me to put this shit called prison boot camp
that we have in Georgia.
It's at an actual prison, but it's like three different sections of it.
You got juvenile prison, you got prison boot camp and then you just got regular prisoners, like
regular prison.
But we all on the same compound.
We'll see each other every day, go child, like same time and shit.
Go to wreck yard right when they get out of wreck.
So I get down there, I do, they give me like 90 days of that shit after I did.
It's like two months in the county, a month and a half in the county, they give me 90 days
of that shit.
I do three months at the prison boot camp, that's when I'm actually like starting to see
like, damn.
Like, prison is fucked up.
There's some people that's got life and shit.
It's lifers.
They had a dog.
I went to a prison called Alburris in Georgia.
It's like in North Georgia.
They got a dog program where all the lifers, they can just like tend to a dog every day.
They walk them, they train them, they do this and that.
I'm seeing like the lifers.
I used to talk to the lifers.
all the time.
They used to always give me game.
You know, stay out of this shit, man.
I'm never coming home.
Like, I never have a girl.
Like, this dog is my only partner.
Like that, like that.
So I'm like, damn, this shit is real.
A riot pop off down there getting some more shit, like some fights and shit.
They end up giving me another 30 days.
But that bid was kind of smooth.
Like, not too major, because like I said, it was prison boot camp.
But they was, they was trying to kill us down there.
We couldn't even eat.
Like, we couldn't eat.
Like, we couldn't order.
the commissary, like, it was strictly hygiene.
That's the only thing you could buy.
So it was really like a real deal boot camp.
So they had something called starvation weekends.
Friday through Sunday, they only feed us twice.
And they feeding us, they waking us up at four in the morning, making us work out, go eat
at four in the morning, breakfast, and then we eat lunch at like 10 a.m.
And the rest of the day, we got to starve.
Like we can't buy no commissary.
So we starving Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
We get fed at four in the morning and 10 in the morning and then star for the rest of the day.
So that shit kind of broke me.
Like you were expected to make me want to change my life around.
But I got out of there and got worse.
I got out of there, got worse for real.
Came home.
That's when I was telling me about the click shit.
I was down there gang banging.
By this time I had already got into a gang.
Like, came home, I got more in tune with my gang.
You know what I'm saying?
What does that mean?
I mean, I don't, like, I got more, like, involved in the gang culture.
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Hanging around game members, I was gangbanging.
You know what I'm saying?
Full-blown game banning.
So it's just having issues with up-the-up-up-with rival gangs.
Yeah, like, yeah, all that going to meetings.
Just really, really gang banging.
It went from little cliques to actually getting in the real game.
I don't understand.
So, I mean, is that like, is it like an organization?
organization where you're like hey you know this person's the leader these guys are lieutenants
these guys run the soldiers yeah that here's like here's our art where we sell drugs in this
area in this area uh these guys do burglaries like i mean like is it set up like that or is it just
like yeah yeah for sure like it's definitely it's definitely organized definitely ranks i was i was a
blood i was a blood um and it's yeah it's you know it's ranks and that shit you got somebody that's
the top that's telling this person what to do. You got something like it's chain of command
basically. You know, you got foot soldiers, you got everything in there. So you got to line
up in prison, then you got a line up on the street. So it's two different. It's ran by two different
people because you got some people that run it, but they're in prison. Then you got something,
like if you're free, you listen to the people that's free. If you lock up, you listen
to the people that's locked up. But you got some people that's free, they big homie,
it's locked up. So they take orders from him, but you still got to follow the protocol
of what's going on the outside on the street. So, uh,
Pretty much like, if a motherfucker tell you go do something to something like a rival, you
got to go do that.
You know what I'm saying?
Or you'll get like DP, like a little violation or something.
Or you might get even kicked out the game.
Like we're not going for no sucker shit.
Like you got to get jumped in, you got to get your ad whoop.
You got to go get your guns wet.
Like, get your guns wet.
Like back then when I was, when I was first game banging, like you had to get jumped
in and you had to go get your gun with it.
Like you had to go, yeah, you had to show that you can show, you know, you're going to use
that pistol.
So, um...
Just like a one-on-one fight or is it like six guys just show?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
It could be three, it could be four, it could be five.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, you gotta get your ass work, though.
You can fight back though.
Like, they want to see if you got hard, that's all.
You know, they're gonna dapp you up, get your hug,
like buy you some weed on, some gas to smoke.
Throw you a little mini party down there, like, welcome to the family type shit.
But yeah, it's just like some lost little brotherhood shit.
Like I grew up, I didn't have no big brother.
one sister. You know, I got one sibling, the older sister, and my dad was gone. So, I don't know,
like, I was always, like, I was never a lame. Like, I was never lame. I was always, like,
a popular dude where I was from. So a lot of people already fought with me. They wanted me
to be a part of their shit. Like, a lot of people seek validation and go look for a game. Like,
the game found me, and they wanted me to be part of the game. So it was cool. I was fucking
with it. We was already cool. Um, yes, I started getting deep in that shit. So, um, moving forward.
I laid off the licks.
I laid it, like I told you, I realized, like, the risk was a lot, especially if you don't
know what the reward's going to be, you know?
So I tried to stray away from the robberies and shit, and I focused on trapping.
Like, I was, at that time, I was wide open.
Came home from prison boot camp, I was 18.
And I was like, you know what?
And that was my problem, too.
Like, every time I commit a crime and I get caught for it, I was like, all right, I'm
not going to do this no more, but I'm going to do this.
I'm not going to do this.
I always just thought I could outsmart.
I'm like, all right, they know me for this, so let me get off of that.
do this, but I always ended up getting caught.
So now I gotta tell that story that leads up to what really made them want us.
Like, okay, so we wake up one morning, it's early.
Like, three of my homeboys go pull up on three girls.
They're gonna go fuck.
Shit, we wake up the next morning, they spend the night.
My bro called me like 12 p.m. it's early as hell.
I just wake up.
Like, bro, these motherfuckers just robbed me.
I'm like, what?
But, ooh, I thought you was with some holes.
He's like, yeah, they came over here and they just robbed me.
I'm like, what?
So I'm like, I bet.
Pull up on them.
We all meet up somewhere.
He let us know what's going on.
Like, boom, the dude come knocking on the door, like, mind you, we had some beef.
And these girls that they was messing with, they fought with the opposition.
They fought with the ops.
So somebody came to the door, knocking on the door,
and basically
one of the dudes
it was one of the girls' cousins
he was there
and went to the door
and seen who it was
so he told my bro
like hey so-and-so's at the door
what you want me to do
my partner
he on some like
tough guy shit
like he like
shit let him in
he already had fought the dude
and beat him up bad
so he's like
shit let him in
I'm gonna whoop his ass again
whole time
he don't know
that that dude is not
coming in to fight you
he's coming in to rob you
so
when the cousin let him
in the house
first thing he do is
He draw down on my boy, like, hey, yeah, y'all don't move, like, give me everything.
And he robbed him for some little petty shit, like, my bro, he had his money in his shorts.
Like, back then we used to wear basketball shorts under our pants.
So he had his money in his real phone in his shorts pockets, but he had jeans over it.
So he just tossed him his, like, little trap phone.
He tossed him to trap phone, toss him like a couple hundred dollars.
He's like, you got it.
He walked him out the house.
The dude is on gangster timing, though.
He's literally sticking my boys up and walking them out the house and like, yeah, bring your
partner's like, tell him come back and get some smoke, get some smoke about it.
So we like, damn, this nigga bold.
So fast forward, we all meet up.
After he tell us a story, we're like, oh, yeah, we about to go pull up over there.
So we pull up over there.
We go in the neighborhood.
Our initial plan is just to go straight to the house, get out, start shooting.
We're thinking they're going to still be right there.
They played a little chess too that day.
So we get there.
We drive by the house, no body there, no extra cars there, boom.
We turn.
We go through the other side of the neighborhood.
We don't see nobody.
Right when we're about to leave, we about to go towards the end of the street and turn around, they start shooting at us.
So we're like, oh, shit.
They come out to cut down foot, though.
It's like for them.
They shoot them.
They shooting at the car.
I'm hanging out the window, shooting back at them.
So I'm hanging out the window shooting at them.
Like, when we turn around to face towards them, they'll run in these little cuts.
Like, it's like they had it playing.
I can't even lie.
They had it well organized.
They start shooting at us.
When we turn towards them, the bussy you turn, they start hitting different cuts and shit.
So they're on foot, but we're in the car so it's hard to hit them.
So we're having a crazy shootout.
Like, this is the biggest shootout in my county ever.
They said they found like 136 bullet shells out there.
So they're running in cuts, they're on foot, so it's hard to hit them.
We are shooting, they're shooting, we running into shit, running into mailboxes, running into
people's cars.
People's in their cars and got hit by us, like, because we came two or three cars deep.
I can't remember.
But some of my people bumping into them, they bumping into light poles, all that.
But we're in a full-blown shootout.
Long story short, a couple of them got shot.
One of us got shot.
Um, yeah, I think two of them got shot.
They came and picked one of my homeboys up.
And this is the crazy part about it.
The dude who initiated the robbery, he just robbed my homeboy.
But when we come back and shoot it out with y'all, he goes and tells the police like,
yeah, he shot at me.
So that's when I knew, like, bro, the streets is crazy.
Like, you initiated the gangster shit.
Then when we come see about your ass, you call the police on us.
Like, that's why the streets is dangerous, man.
The streets ain't for nobody, bro.
Like, for real, because you got gangster rats out there.
You can't beat them.
You know what I'm saying?
If you lose, you die.
Like, he'll kill you.
Like, but if you win and get the ups on them, he'll tell on you.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, bro, if you would have just left us a fuck alone, you would have never got shot at.
So now you started this shit.
Now we come back and retaliate and you tell on us.
But he didn't know everybody that was there.
He only know the person he robbed that day.
So he tell on him.
And he gets, my bro, he gets locked up for aggravated assault for the whole shootout.
Like, he didn't tell on nobody else, you know, he took his time, he took his lick.
So now he's locked up for aggravated assault.
While he's locked up for aggravated assault, they add Rico to his shit.
So that was, that was like when they had like the last straw, like, they was like, all right,
we about to start coming to get all of them.
US Marshals pulling up to all our mom's house.
They're trying to catch us where we frequent at, like, all this shit.
Like, all this shit, like, that's when shit got real, because it was,
It was close to a school, so they were serious about that shit.
Like, the neighborhood happened to be close to a school, so they're like, man, anybody
could have kids could have got hit.
You know what I'm saying?
They wasn't fucking with that.
Neighbors in their car, their cars getting shot up.
Like, why they're about to go to work and shit?
Like, it's early.
I told you, it's 12 p.m.
Like, in the middle of the daytime, it's like the Wild Wild West.
We shooting it out.
Like, they shooting, we shoot, shit was crazy.
I found a Cali plug from Sacramento.
He was in the Bay.
We were trapped in like a trap house.
Yeah, trap house like selling drugs, you know, selling dope.
So I found the Cali plug from Sacramento.
Like I said, I was 18 at this point in time.
I'm getting the pounds sent from Cali to my mom front door.
I'm getting it for like 1,400 a pound.
Back then it's like 200 a zip.
So 16 zips.
I'm probably making like 5,000, 6,000 off of each pound.
And I'm 18.
I just came home.
So I'm feeling myself.
I'm like, man, fuck that robbing shit.
Like, I'm just trying to try, I'm trying to just get off this gas from Cali.
Because nobody my age, like at that time, like, now these kids advanced.
You know, you got trappers that's rich, 15-year-old trapping.
But then, like, in my area, like, that wasn't really common for nobody else 18 to be getting the pounds from Cali.
These people barely buying three, five and sevens and shit.
And I'm getting the pounds, shit, to my mom front door.
So I get the selling dope.
We got a little trap house.
Basically, like where the gang used to just go, you know, sell their drugs, fuck with the
girls, you know what I'm saying, just chill.
Start getting hot because now it's shootouts going on over there now.
Like this apartment complex wasn't really known for that, but now it was shootouts, now it's
people getting robbed in the apartments, not by me personally, because I gave it up, but not
everybody gave that up that was around me.
So they'll bring them to them apartments, rob them, all type of shit was going on.
So basically one day, the police come, they come to the trap house and they're looking
for somebody like, hey, is so-and-so here?
We know the person though, but he wasn't there.
It was like, no.
I happened not to be there that day.
They put the whole house in handcuffs.
It was like 11, 12 people there because like I said, everybody used to just congregate their
females, dudes.
They put the whole house in handcuffs and said they was looking for somebody.
They ran everybody's names.
Nobody had warrants.
So they left.
We wasn't thinking too much of it.
We were like, what the hell?
Like, we was like, why did they come?
But they were just looking for him.
He might just be hot at the time.
Like, they might just be looking for him.
Whole time, they're building this RICO case on us.
From shit we did.
They've been investigating us since 2012, and they came and got us 2016.
Who's they?
This is the GBI.
Yeah, yeah.
GBI, like the gang task force.
All that shit.
This is a feds.
This is a state.
Yeah, it was state.
Yeah, this is state.
Yeah, they had been watching this from 2012 to 2016.
So they were building the case for four years already.
So this is towards the end of when they're about to convict this.
They came to the house, did like the little walkthrough.
They didn't search the house.
They just, like I said, they detained everybody, ran their names, and they let us go.
Well, let them go.
So I had some work stashed in the wall over there.
wall over there. So I'm like, once they told me that, I'm like, no, I got to go get my work.
Like, that's hot. I go there the next day to get my work and I dip. Later on that day, police
come back and they kicked the door in and lay the whole house down. They lay the whole
house down. They start searching. They find like seven guns. They find a bunch of muscle relaxers,
X pills, Zanz, gas, all type of shit in the house and the trap.
They take everybody to jail except the girls.
So everybody that was in that house went to jail, and that was like the beginning of the RICO.
So now it's like they got their first people already locked up, but they still got their eyes on 23 of us.
The way I got locked up on my RICO was the most fucked up shit, man.
That was a crazy situation.
I just so happened.
I'm going to this girl's birthday party.
I'm messing with this girl.
We're on the way to a Japanese steakhouse.
We're about to go get something to eat, you know, good vibes.
I didn't drive.
I got in one of my home boys' car.
We about to pull out.
I'm like, damn, let me go get my gun.
I run back in the house, grab my gun.
I grab some Molly.
Stop at the liquor store, get a bottle.
We stopped at the liquor store, get a bottle.
We just so happened to stop at the gas station.
So this shit's crazy.
We get to the gas station.
We pulled in by the pump right here.
My home boys all walk in.
One of them come back out the gas station and asked me, like, hey, you got some change?
I always had a lot of money on me, like, I was trapping and shit.
So he was like, hey, you got some change?
I'm like, oh, change for what, $150, 20?
Like, what kind of change?
He's like, nah, change change.
Like, he's homeless.
He's trying to get some money.
So I'm like, oh, I got him.
Boom.
I walk up to the homeless dude, give him some money, just dapp him up, give him some money.
I go back to the car at the gas pump.
One of my other homeboys come out, and he asked him too, like, hey, can I get some money?
I need a little bit more money to go get me a hotel room for the night.
He's like, how much you need?
He's like, 35 more.
He's like, I got him, boom.
My homeboy gave him the $35.
We get back to the car, my home boy's pumping the gas.
Mind you, we have the pump.
Pumps on this side of us.
racing the gas station. My homeboy's pumping the gas. The next thing you know, I just feel
the car jerk. Boom. And I hear my homeboy say like, get the fuck off me. You got me fucked
up. So we're like, what? My first instinct is we getting robbed. Because like two weeks ago
at that same gas station we seen somebody who was beefing with. As soon as we pulled in, he saw
all of us and he just pulled off. So my first instinct is last time I was at this place, we
saw somebody who didn't like. So we'd probably getting caught down bad right now. I hear
What the fuck you got me fucked up?
The car jerk.
So my first instinct, we getting robbed.
I got my book bag with my gun between my legs.
I reached into my book bag to get the gun.
I open my door.
I'm about to put one leg out.
As soon as I am getting out the car, police got the gun in my face.
Drop the motherfucking bag.
Drop the fucking bag.
They didn't even see the gun yet.
I still got my hand in the book bag.
You know what I'm saying?
Trying to go make sure my boy, all right.
Old time, it's the police.
So I'm like, fuck.
I dropped the bag.
It's so crazy.
My homeboy, Mundo Jackson, he just
end up driving
right past us. Like,
seeing me get locked up, seeing the police
surrounding me. They're in unmarked cars.
Whole time, this is a high drug
area, so a lot of
undercovers stay around that area to watch
for transactions. So mind you,
this is why I said it's so crazy, because
whole time I'm trying to be a fucking good Samaritan,
they thinking I'm selling a homeless man drugs.
That's why they ran up on us. That was their fucking
probable cause. But the shit, that's so
fucked up is after they realized it wasn't, we still went to jail because it was too late.
They already found the shit.
So basically they tell us, get out, boom, they search us.
I got the Mali on me in my pocket.
So I'm just originally knowing I'm going to jail for Mali.
You're lucky they didn't see that gun.
Yeah, they would have killed me.
They would have killed me.
Yeah, so I get out the car.
They're like, we're like, why are you fucking with us?
We asked them, like, what's the probable car?
Why are you fucking with us?
They like, shit, we just saw you selling drugs up here.
I'm like, man, I didn't sell that man drugs.
You can go search him right now.
He don't got no drugs on him.
I didn't even think he was like a junkie type dude.
Like, I just knew he was, you know, like some people just broke.
You know, you got some junkies and you got some just broke people that struggling.
So I'm just thinking he just really want to get a room.
So they go search the homeless, man.
They don't find shit on them but money.
Whole time, this motherfucker got like $2,300 on them already.
Just conned me out, got me hot.
You got the police looking at me.
bitch-ass homeless-ass nigger
he got me hot
and he already got a whole bank roll on him
so they search them they don't find no drugs
but by then why they're searching him
they're searching my car
they find the gun
they find
the Miley on me
but I'm about to go to jail
one of my homeboys
he already had a warrant so he's going to jail
another one of my homeboys
tried to tell the police it was his gun
he told the police it was his gun
thinking they was going to free me
because he already know my situation
I just had came home
from the first prison boot camp shit
I got probation
he got a clean slate, clean record
so he tried to free me up
and tell him it was his gun
so instead of them letting me go
they charge both of us with the gun
we both go to jail for the gun
are you not allowed to have a gun
in Georgia?
Yeah and I think it's
like at the time
I was a convicted felon though
so yeah that's why I just had got the burglary
so definitely they're not going to
for that. So now I'm about to have a convicted felon with a possession of a firearm charge.
Then I got a controlled substance because I had the molly on me. And in Georgia, they say
a possession of a firearm and commission of a crime when you have guns and drugs at the same time.
So can you open carry in Georgia? Yeah, yeah, definitely. As long as you don't have no felonies,
you can have your gun everywhere. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, they just did that here. Guys were just walking around with the fucking guns on their hips
and shit.
Definitely.
So we go to jail.
The whole time I'm thinking,
like, you know,
okay, I'm going to jail for a gun
and Mali.
I'm not knowing about the RICO
that we've been investigated
for four years.
How much in Georgia,
if you're a felon
in possession of a firearm,
how much time is that?
I want to say five.
Like, they'll tell you
you're going to do five off the rip,
but a lot of times they don't just
give you five.
Like, I know some people
that got a year or two years,
but they say five.
Like, just for having a lot of,
the gun. Not even using it, shooting nobody,
just having the possession of it.
You can get five. You can get ten. Like, you can get
your whole probation snatched. If you have ten
years probation, they can take the whole
probation and say, hey, he has to sit
10 years in prison just for having
possession of this gun. Yeah, and the federal
system, like, you would get
three years, that's a
mandatory, that's the minimum.
You're getting three years. But if they
catch you with the gun and you have drugs,
it's five.
It's mandatory five. So it's either three,
or five.
And it could be much higher
if you've got multiple drug convictions,
then it could be 15, 20,
30.
Google says first conviction
could be one to 10 years,
second or, you know,
second or more,
five to 10 years.
Just Georgia?
Yeah, the AI overview for Georgia.
Yeah, they'll get,
they'll fuck around and give you 10.
Some people, like I said,
I've seen people get one,
I seen people get 10,
it's just depending on the judge.
What do you think right then?
You think right then I'm getting,
yeah,
I'm thinking like, you know,
like I said,
I'm still in that mode
where I feel like I can get away
with everything.
thing because I'm doing, I'm committing so many crimes I get caught this time.
Like, all right, they're going to get me slapping the wrist.
Like, I never thought I'd go to prison.
Because, like I said.
You already been to prison once.
You know what I'm saying?
But it was prison boot camp, so it still wasn't real to me.
Even though I was on the real prison compound on the prison schedule.
I would suck even worse than prison because you're making you wake up early in the
morning and jog.
Yeah, working out every day, starving us every weekend.
Like, so that shit was tough, but just being young and dumb, like, okay, they got me
that time.
Like I said, I got it.
I got out saying I'm not committing no more burglar.
That's how I got caught, so I'm going to stick to the drug dealing.
So I thought I could outsmart them with that.
I already had everything down packed.
Like I don't know how other laws work, but in Georgia, like they have to have probable cause
to search you.
So it was times back then I have a pound on me.
I have some ex pills.
I have some Xanax.
I have some Mali.
I have a gun.
They pulled me over.
Yes, sir.
How's it going?
What am I getting pulled over for, speeding?
All right, take my ticket.
I'm gone.
As long as they don't smell gas in the car.
But that's the thing that I trained all my homeboys to do because we used to love hot
boxing, riding around hot boxing, but that's like a one-way ticket to hell.
That's a first-class ticket to jail.
As soon as they pull you over and they smell that, you're going down for everything in this
fucking car.
I'm thinking I'm outsmarting them.
I'm riding dirty as hell, but nobody can smoke.
I don't care if I'm with a female.
I don't care if I'm with my best friend.
Nobody can smoke in the car, and I'm telling all my homeboys, stop that shit because that's
how a lot of people get messed up.
Don't smoke a car.
You don't give them no probable cause.
It just so happened that the probable cause at the gas station was they thought it was a drug deal.
But I still feel like to this day if that was your probable cause and it was false that I should have beat it.
My lawyer didn't really fight it as good as he could.
Yeah, they found it, but it was illegal the way they searched this because your probable cause was it was a drug deal.
You searched him.
You didn't find no drugs.
So I didn't sell him no drugs, but you still proceeded to search my car even though your probable cause was wrong.
So what are the is it the in good faith doctrine or something like that?
Yeah but we thought that we were doing it in good faith.
But I mean, I agree.
It's like if you pull somebody over for going 60 and a fucking 30 and you search their car and you find drugs.
But really they weren't going 60.
They were going fucking 35 or they were going 30.
Yeah, I just cheated.
What are you doing, man?
You know, turns out that your radar is miscalibrated or something.
You know what I'm saying?
You never should have pulled this guy who would have began with.
Exactly.
But that's, they, you know, it's, what was it,
fruit of the poisonous tree,
but they just don't, they just don't play by those rules anymore.
Definitely.
So, uh, we get to the jail.
I'm just thinking, you know, I got a gun charge.
I got a, um, control substance charge for the molly.
We get in there,
and I don't been to jail probably like five,
about six, five, six times by then,
like in between it for a little petty shit.
And violations of probation.
and it's always the same process.
But this time when I got in there, they take me into a room,
tell me to take my shirt off, it's an investigator.
They're taking pictures of my tattoo, asking me, am I part of a gang?
And I'm like, no, hell no.
It's like, yeah, you're being investigated for gang charges.
We'll get back to you and let you know.
So I'm like, damn, it's different.
Like, I've been to jail a lot of times, and they never did no shit like this.
So, and I told you, my first conviction was a burglary,
but it was also gang charges.
So now they're taking these pictures.
I'm like, this is a little different.
They didn't do this.
The first time I got gang charges, that's when I kind of knew this was going to be a little deeper.
But I didn't think too much of it.
I did three months in the county jail.
I finally got a bond.
They let me bond out and go to rehab.
So I was basically saying, like, my lawyer's story was it was personal use.
Like, I wasn't selling to my lady.
It was just, I do it.
So I need rehab.
So they let me out on bond and go to this rehab.
And I had to take three drug tests a week.
Like, I was actually changing my life around.
It was strict.
I had no choice.
I had to go to anger management classes once a week.
I had to go to alcoholics anonymous.
I had to go to all these little classes, take these drug tests.
And I was doing good.
I had a job.
They had me working like a little job at a stair company or something.
Like I had to live there at the rehab and just go to work.
We end up throwing this party.
Like we're getting money at this time.
Like we're young.
We still like 18, 19.
About 19.
I'm about to turn 20.
I'm 19.
We throw a, we get an Airbnb and throw a house party.
Crazy house party.
We threw like five parties every single day.
It was summertime.
We throwing parties every single day of the week.
We just saw having to throw one when our home was at the Airbnb, he leaves to go get, go
pick up a girl or something.
He ended up getting pulled over and when he got locked up, he called us from jail from
the party.
Like we at the party still.
He called us from jail and like, bro, they just locked me up.
I'm like, for what?
He's like, DUI.
But, bro, I got locked up for a DUI initially.
When I got the booking, they told me I have 116 charges.
So we're like, what the fuck?
How the hell you get 116 charges?
I never heard of no shit like that.
He's like, bro, I don't know.
These folks tripping.
There's so much shit on here that I really ain't even do.
I don't know nothing about this shit.
I'm like, what?
So when he get locked up, we get a call from two of our homeboys
that was already locked up from the sting that they did at the trap house.
when they found the guns and all the doping shit.
And they were like, bro, they just called us out and told us,
they just locked Jason up and he got 116 charges.
They're talking about building a RICO on us.
Like, they got me and the other dude in here,
and Jason just got locked up.
But they came and said they're about to build a RICO case on us.
So now we had to party like, what the fuck?
Like, they've been sitting in jail,
But the whole time they're trying to, the police connecting dots and it was already building this shit.
So when we hear this, we're like, damn, like, everybody looking on some shit like, damn, I hope I'm not involved in it.
Because we don't know the list of names, you know what I'm saying?
We all looking like, man, they ain't got me on there.
I'm good.
Like, we good.
All the whole time I'm in the rehab.
I just got weekend passes.
Every weekend they let me go out and shit.
So I just had to turn myself back in on Sundays.
Like Friday, Saturday, I can stay out Sunday morning, I got to come back.
So I'm like, bro, I know I'm not on that shit.
Like, I'm on bond.
I'm doing the right thing.
The whole time, when they lock him up, they charge him with our whole RICO on accident.
Like, when they processed them in, that's where they showed their hand.
Like, all these charges are what they want to charge all of us with.
But he just happened to be the first one to get locked up on it.
So they put all 116 charges on him when he got booked.
That's how we found out that the RICO was a thing.
Otherwise, they would have just grabbed you guys all kind of the same.
same time, like one sweep.
And then you would have all figured it out.
Yeah.
Because if they start letting people know up front, people start taking off.
Yeah, for sure.
So they played it real smart.
They played it smart.
One day, this dude, like, he got on slacks and he got on a white shirt.
But behind the scenes, they're still putting together a RICO.
You just don't have any idea.
I don't know.
I'm thinking they let me out, Scott Free.
I'm thinking, like, oh, I got a bond.
I tricked them.
The RICO is not just you.
It's you and how many other people?
22.
22 other people that are also out there still doing crimes.
Yeah, yeah.
Like all kind of connected to each other in some way.
Even though with Rico, the left hand doesn't have to know.
Like, you could be, I'm, you're locked up just getting this, trying to get through this little bid.
But these guys are still doing some other shit.
So they're still interconnected with you, even though you have no idea what they're necessarily doing.
That's exactly what was going on.
Because we had, like I said, 116 charges.
A hundred of them I had no idea about.
Right.
Like, we had everything from car jackets to fucking,
breaking and entering autos, uh, drugs, aggravated assaults, arm robberies,
trafficking, possession.
We had so many different charges that I, like, people were getting locked up and I wasn't even knowing about it.
Like, it's, I have co-defendants that I never met a day in my life.
They just, like, if, uh, I took a picture with this dude and next week he takes a picture with that dude,
they're putting us all together.
So I might not, never even seen this dude, but since they know he knows this dude,
and I know him, they put us all together.
So my Rico was crazy.
Now you're a tight-knit gang.
You're like, I never met this.
Yeah, the whole time.
They'll paint a picture too.
Police play dirty game too, like, shit.
Don't get me wrong.
We was doing wrong, but they was doing wrong too.
Like, they was trying to make it seem like everybody was in cahoots and this person's crime
is connected to this person's crime.
And oh, he does this for the gang, like, no, this dude just doing that because he broke.
So he's just going to commit a crime for some money.
He's not enhancing his status in the gang or anything like that.
But that's how they make it seem.
It's all he's kicking up the money.
Yeah, it's not like he's putting it in the pie after he commits a crime.
Like, huh, this for the gang.
Nah, that's for him, you know what I'm saying?
But the police will make it seem like every crime that all of us did was together
and we doing it for the gang.
Yeah, after I get in there, I do my three months.
I go to the rehab.
Guy comes in with some slacks and a white button-down shirt,
with a collar shirt actually had on a regular polo shirt with some
slacks. He asked me my name. I was like, yeah, that's me. He was like, hey, how you doing?
He put his hand out to shake my hand and my intuition just told me, like, I felt it that someone
was wrong with this dude. So I left him hanging. Because a lot of people come to the rehab,
you know, talk to us from the outside and, you know what I'm saying, little shit. So I'm,
first, my first thing is I'm thinking like, oh, he's just, you know, a guy coming to, you know,
talk to us and stuff. But when he asked me my name, I was like, yeah, that's me. He put his
hand out and I just felt funny as hell.
So I just looked him up and down.
It was like, damn, you're just going to leave me hanging?
So I'm like, all right, boy, I put my hand out.
As soon as I put my hand out, he grabbed my hand, put my hands behind my back, like, you're
under arrest.
I'm like, God damn, these fucking...
They don't play.
He's slimy as hell.
Like, shit, you act like you're about to greet me.
He's about to ruin my life.
So shit.
Whole time he's U.S. Marshal.
They walked me outside from the rehab.
and I see like 30 unmarked cars.
They came so deep just to come get me.
And like you had people in the backyard laying down in the grass.
You had like four tourists, you had expeditions, you had all type of cars surrounding the house,
like parked in different spots.
So I'm like, damn, this was like a sting.
Like they just, they came to get me.
You know, they tricked me with the plain clothes dude.
They probably thought I would have ran or something if I knew it was a regular police.
But yeah, that's when they locked me up for the, and when they locked me up, I was
I was like, what's going on?
I'm out on bond right now.
I ain't do nothing.
I'm taking three drug tests a week.
I'm in these classes.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't committing no crimes.
Like, why the hell y'all lock me up?
I just bonded out.
It was like, you have RICO charges, you have gang charges, shit like that.
Shit so fucked up.
I get to the county jail.
I'm sitting down at the booking.
Like I said, I'm always used to like thinking that I'm just going to get off.
I sit down at booking and they taking my property and shit.
I got condoms.
This one I know I was going away for a long time.
The lady at the desk at the booking desk, she,
inventory in all my shit, putting it in a bag.
She takes my condom.
She's like, oh, yeah, you won't be need-kneed for a long time.
She's throwing them in the trash.
I'm like, oh, shit.
Like, they just straight up telling me, like, it's over with.
I get in there, yeah.
I was just going to say when I was in Oklahoma City, you know,
they did the transfer center for the feds.
Remember, I didn't know my reg number.
I was like, I don't know.
She was, like, pill line asking for my medication or something.
And she goes, what's your reg number?
And I went, oh, I don't know.
And she goes, she, and I said, I don't know.
And she goes, well, you better, you don't have it memorized?
I said, no.
She said, well, you better, you're going to be here a while.
Yeah, they did.
And I remember thinking it was like this seeking feeling like, that's how I felt.
That's how I felt.
That was a snap into reality.
Like, for real, she's like, she literally bagged up all my shit.
And my condoms is the only thing she threw away, like, just knowing.
Like, I'm not even convicted guilty yet.
Yeah.
But that's how I knew how big and serious my case was.
Like, you're just a regular CEO.
You work at the desk.
So they must have told you that, like, I'm going.
So let's face it, if some people, you know, once you get, they know just the charges.
They can look at the charge.
They can look at the charge and say, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Even if you beat 80% of these, you're still going to jail for a while.
Yeah, so I sit in the county for a year, 22 and two.
Like, they got us locked down 22 hours of the day.
We only get two hours out.
I never been to no shit like that.
No bond.
Yeah, the lady told me at the desk, yeah, you won't be needing these condoms for a while.
You're gonna be sitting in this bitch.
So I never been in jail that long.
I always, like I said, at this time, I'd been to jail seven, eight times, and I always
get a slap on the wrist, 15 days, 30 days, 45 days, 10 days, same day I bond, like, shit
like that.
So now I'm sitting here 22 hours a day in my cell, only get out myself two hours.
And it's the longest time, the hardest time that I did.
So I sat in there a year.
Mind you, I have 23 code defendants.
Two of them took pleas.
So I go see my lawyer.
The discovery packet is so fucking big that they couldn't even, he couldn't even bring it to
me on paper.
These folks had been investigating this four years already.
He brought me the discovery packet with a flash drive.
Discovery packet was so big, he was like, man, they have over 3,000 pages on y'all.
The police was documenting everything, man.
Every picture we took, every tweet, like, because we were just young and dumb, we used to get
in the fight and then go talk shit about it on the internet.
Like, oh, we just beat their ass here.
Like, we're giving them the crimes.
I was like, we were just here and we beat this person's ass and here.
Like, the police just documented all this shit.
They got to even little shit where we get pulled over.
Like, we heard gunshots on this street.
We pulled them over, searched the car.
We didn't find any guns.
We found bullets, though, and we let them go.
Or we went to this party.
We seen somebody walking down the street with blood on them.
He had a ripped shirt.
We questioned them.
We let them go.
Anytime they pulled us over together, like if it's three of us together and they got pulled over,
they documented that.
If it's one person
he got pulled over
with another person
they documented that
so everything
they got so much shit on us
they got our music videos
like we make music back then
like we was trending
we'd get
upload the music video
and get like 50,000
so like quick
so the whole town knew us
and the police knew us as well
so they're watching
they just building this shit
listening to our music
hearing the crimes
we're talking about
committing and shit
and they just
lining it all up
they got over 3,000 pages
of us
so
And you're having running gun battles in the middle of the fucking city, too.
That's not helping.
Yeah.
Yeah, shit's crazy.
So two of my co-defendants, they end up taking pleas.
Right.
So my lawyers sit me down, like, bro, they have 3,000 pages on you.
Two of your co-defendants just agreed to testify on you.
So.
Did you tell them that's not true?
Because they're all gangsters, and gangsters don't tell on each other.
I wish.
Shit.
Gangster rats.
I told you about them.
You got to watch out for them gangster rats.
So yeah, at this point I'm in a sticky situation because they are already about to tell
on me.
So he asked me my lawyer like, all right, okay, they have segments out of the 23.
They had people that they wanted like the least that they just wanted to snatch up to
see if they had a tail.
Then they had people in the middle.
Then they had people at the top.
So I was one of the people in the top and it was two more people.
They wanted me and two of my bros the most.
He was like, the only way you can really get out of this situation if you tell on one of these two.
Like, even if you tell on somebody lower than you, they don't care.
Like, they really want you.
But if you tell them another one of these two heads, you know, I can get you a good sentence.
I'm telling my lawyer, like, fuck no.
I'm not doing this.
They got to go.
Yeah.
They got to go.
I mean, I like Tommy and I like Billy.
I'll put some money on their books.
I'm gonna, you know, I'll visit them.
I told my Lord, man, I ain't gonna say nothing, man.
I'm good.
I told him I'm good.
So at this point, I'm trying to get a bond.
My mom get on the stand, telling them how good I am.
My dad get on the stand, telling them how good I am.
I got this pastor.
If you're a judge, she's got to be like, stop it.
Yeah, man.
You could run over a busload of children.
Your mom's going to get him.
He's a good boy.
He'll get me like an angel still.
So a pastor at the rehab, like at the rehab that I was
that he came on there and vouched for me and everything.
So it's like, all these people vouching for me.
And they said, no.
They was like, yeah, he facing 156 years.
So we don't feel like he's eligible for a bond.
He has serious charges to DA on my ass.
Like, she's like, yeah, he's the glue to the organization.
He's the one that brings everybody together.
He's the one that tells them what robbery is to commit.
He's the one that gives them the drills.
Like, they really just making me seem, they're making it seem like a real organized crime,
like organized game.
But at the same time, we just young kids.
like just doing shit like
so I don't know if it looked like that to them I don't know
but you are orchestrating
robberies and I am to
you know what I'm saying it's funny when you're in in the middle
of it you're like no just tell him Billy you should probably
go rob that guy you know
but boy when the U.S. attorney says
or the district attorney says it makes it
sound like a well-oiled machine
like damn I didn't even know I was
organized like that but shit
yeah so
pretty much they denied my bond
said I was facing a hundred and
56 years, cool.
My lawyer asked me again, like, bro, you're facing some serious charge.
You want to give somebody up?
I'm like, no, I'm good.
So they come with their first offer.
They first offer was 15 years.
But mind you, I only have a possession of a firearm by a convicted felon in Somali.
I'm like, damn, y'all trying to give me 15 years.
Like, all the shit that I did, y'all is what they caught you.
Yeah, that's what they caught me with.
Like, I'm like, all the shit that I did, y'all don't know nothing about this shit.
Like, y'all got certain things documented, but you can't prove that I did none of this shit.
The only thing that y'all can prove is...
Can't prove it when they put the two guys on the stand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
But I'm looking at it like, all y'all have me guilty, guaranteed of is the shit that I have in possession.
That's all I'm charged with right now.
The aggravated assault was no longer on there.
I had an armed robbery on there.
But the girl, like, the girl told them.
them like, uh, that I was involved in the robbery, but then she turned around and was
visiting me. Like, she was there when she, this girl got robbed and she basically put the
blame on me. And, but she was cool with me. So she had been told the police about this, but she
was coming to visit me. She had money on my books. She was talking to me on the phone, going
to the court dates with my mom and shit. So the police dropped the armed robbery charges because
they like, she got to be lying on them because she actually loves, she hear, they hear all the
conversations like like it can't be true so the only thing that I had was possession of a
firearm by a convicted felon in this little molly something like 15 years i can't take that so i
go back to jail boom i go back to court a couple months later and you're how old um i'm 20 at this
time okay yeah i'm 20 15 years you're 20 years old to the life yeah i was like fuck that i can't
take that.
How much time would you do on that?
How much time do you do in Georgia?
I want to say it's 40 months for Rico is the minimum.
But 40 months.
Yeah, I want to say they gave you 15 years.
Oh, they gave you 15 years.
It's really different.
It's really different.
Like, different strokes for different folks.
I've seen some people parole out after four years.
Oh, they got parole.
Yeah, I've seen people parole out after 10.
And then you have some people that got.
got to max out. Like me, I maxed out. I ended up maxing out when I took my time.
But, um...
So, first was 15. Sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, first was 15. I left the courthouse. I told them now. They took me back to the
jail. Second time I went to court, they offered me 12 years. I told them now. The third
time, they offered me 10 years. I was like, hell, nah. Because in my mind, it's still like,
I don't know what these dudes about to say. I just, I didn't feel like it was real. Like,
I always watch TV shows about like, your home boy, yeah. Like, they come in, like, they
committing these same crimes with me and then they tell them, like, they tell on them. But like,
I was so close to these people, I'm like, man, they might just get on the stand and try to tell
them some lies and throw some little bullshit in the game or tell them some petty shit. Like,
I didn't think they're, you know, really just do their thing on me. But at the same time,
I didn't fully know. But I knew I wasn't taking 10 just while I have these little possession
charges. I got a RICO, but just possession charges. So my whole thing was to fight it
because in the state of Georgia, like, Rico, like, you have a real thing. You have a RICO, like, you
The police have to prove that you're committing these crimes to enhance your status in the gang or fund the gang.
And my whole thing is if you just caught me with a grandma of Molly and a gun, how can I can't fund the gang with a grandma of Molly?
I can't increase my status with just having possession of this firearm.
I didn't shoot nobody with it.
I didn't kill nobody with it.
I didn't rob nobody with it.
It's not even reported stolen.
You know what I'm saying?
You could have said, oh, if it was a theft by taking, they could have said, oh, he steals guns for the game.
But the gun was clean.
So it's like literally, I'm thinking in my head I got it beat
because they can't prove that I'm enhancing my status
by just carrying a gun and I can't fund the gang
by just having the ground.
I'm thinking I'm good.
They offer me to 10.
I tell them, no, I'm not taking that shit.
So now my lawyer come back to court.
I mean, my lawyer come back to see me.
He's like, all right, look.
They said they're about to crank out trial.
Like, you don't want to take this 10 as they final offer.
I said, damn, I can't.
take 10, but I can't go to trial because I do got two people about to testify.
So I'm like, what else can we do? Like, is there anything else we could do? He's like,
you can go into a non-negotiated plea. That's where I go in the court, my lawyer goes
in the court and asks for a certain amount of time that he feels is fair. And then the DA
ad tells the judge how much time she wants to give me and then the judge decides. So I didn't
actually take a plea. I took a non-negotiated plea and let the judge decide. I couldn't
I couldn't take that time.
I couldn't take 15, 12 or 10.
So we go in the court.
They play in my music videos and shit.
They're showing gang signs.
They're showing guns, the money.
Like, it looked bad.
It looked bad.
What we're talking about?
What we look like?
It just looked bad.
You know what I'm saying?
So my lawyer asked for two.
I said like two years is fit for him.
Like he'll do two.
The DA says eight.
So the judge.
Eight?
She said 10 earlier.
Yeah, she did.
But when we went into the non-negotiated police, she told them eight.
My lawyer said two.
Then the judge decided seven.
I'm like, damn, you ain't even meet you in the middle of that?
Like, you basically picked her fucking eight.
Like, shit.
But, yeah, but in my head, I'm thinking still, like I said, I'm always used to just getting a slap on the wrist.
So even when they said seven, I wasn't just sad, devastated.
I just knew in my head, like, I'm a parole out after two years.
The whole time, that was not the case.
I did the whole seven.
So he sentenced me to a 20-2-7.
So that's 20 years in total.
He sentenced you to 20, but you have to do seven.
Yeah, 20 to 7.
How could you end up with 20?
Like, that's how Georgia usually does.
They'll give you an ass of probation.
Then they'll give you, like, time to serve.
So some people get a 20-do-5 or some people get a 10-do-3.
So it means you're on probation for 20 years?
Yeah, for 20 years.
Yeah, on probation for 20 years, but you got to serve seven.
But I could have parole.
I was parole eligible, so I could.
could have paroled out after like 40 months.
But that didn't happen.
They didn't happen.
They kept denying my parole.
Do you go in front of like a parole board?
Yeah.
Well you don't actually physically see them.
Like when your parole month comes up, they just review like your charges.
They review like your behavior while you're in prison and then they'll decide.
But like I was getting a lot of write-ups when I was in prison.
They call them DRs.
I was getting called because I was getting phones in.
I was getting phones in the prison.
I had an iPhone in there.
I was selling drugs and I was in prison too.
And motherfuckers would fly drones, like park across the street from the prison, fly the drone,
drop it off, and we go outside and find a way to break out, get the shit and bring it in.
We're selling that shit.
Or you can get an officer, a CEO, yeah, like, just pay her some money, boom, shit, bring
it in.
You know what I'm saying?
Like shit like that.
So I just kept getting rode up for country band.
I kept having countryband.
So they kept denying my parole.
Yeah, so.
So you did seven?
Yeah, I did seven.
I did seven.
Are you still on paper now?
Yeah, yeah.
Can you try and get off?
Like if you're good for a certain period of time, can you apply to quash the paper?
Yeah, yeah.
See, like right now, I'm a law-abiding citizen.
Yeah.
So I ain't gotten no trouble since I've been home.
I've been home from prison for two years now.
So, like, I just completely just left the streets alone.
I heard that after three years, I can go back to court and ask them to terminate my probation.
As long as I do three years without getting in trouble, they can just kill all my probation.
So since I had a 20-do-7, I did the whole seven, I came home with 13 years on probation, the remainder of that 20-year sentence.
So I've been home for two years now, so I still have 11 more months on probation.
So after I complete this last year, this next year, without getting in trouble.
11 more years.
Yeah, but once I get, yeah, I have 11 more years on it.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Once I complete one more year of probation, I can go back and ask them to get it terminated now.
Yeah, so next year, I'll be.
good.
You know, on federal, it's typically
you have to typically at halfway
at the halfway mark, they'll quash your paper
unless you have restitution.
But yeah.
That seems ridiculous. That's a ridiculous amount of
paper. That's how, that's how, like, where I'm
from, that's how they really trick us.
Like, they trick us for life, basically.
Like, we had so much crime.
Like I said, we're Metro Atlanta,
so we're not actually Fulton County.
So for it to be not even the capital,
we had the highest conviction rate.
I think it was one time
we had like a 99.6 conviction rate.
Everybody they was locking up was guilty.
So this was the time Obama was president.
He had to literally come to my county jail
and send FBI to investigate the jail
because they got to be doing something wrong.
Like everybody is fucking guilty.
99.6%.
That was like, I think it was like the third highest
in the country at the time.
So basically they'll just sit you in there
for forever, make you fight your case for forever, and people just say, fuck it, and plea out.
Some people won't even be guilty.
They're just tired of sitting in jail.
And a lot of people are guilty.
They're like, same shit.
Like, I'm just ready to take my time and go to prison because Georgia prisons is dangerous.
It's dangerous as hell.
But, like, it's a lot of contraband.
Like, in the county, it's not really phones like that.
There's no shanks.
There's nothing.
No gas, drugs, none of that shit.
So people be ready to get the prison, damn there.
It sounds crazy.
It's more dangerous, but it's more.
privileges. The county jail is more safe, but it's like hard time. Like, you have, you can't do
shit. You lock down 22 hours, none of that. So people just be playing out. So, uh, I get to
prison. I told you, I was in a gang. I get the prison, you know, I had some ranking my gang
and shit. So, uh, it just so happens. The prison that I get down to, like, has two of the
biggest, big homies, like, in the state of Georgia.
So they just happen to be at the same prison as me.
It's 130 prisons in Georgia.
So what is the odds that two of them is down here with me?
So they're in the same gang as me.
I get a call from another one of my home boys here in my gang too.
He tell me like, hey, you down there with so and so and so and so.
I was like, yeah, hell yeah.
He was like, shit, bro.
Like, they can't be gang no more, basically like, just let me know, like, one of them is a rat and one of them is a defender.
He got all type of messed up charges.
So I find this out and like with us, like how the game goes like you can't back bite like gossip
and just like if you don't like somebody else that's in our game, you can't just be like,
oh he did this and that without proof because you're in violation and you have to show the
proof.
So this dude that's at another prison he showed me the proof.
He sent me to do charges.
Like you can literally look it up on Google, look up his charges.
And then the other one, his whole cases on, it's on Google.
Still to this day, it's on Google, and he told him his co-defendant and got him life.
So these people, they don't know what's going on at my prison.
They don't know.
I guess everybody just found this out what was going on at another prison first.
So they called me because I got ranked down there.
So they're like, hey, you need to tell everybody that's down there what they really locked up for.
Because the dude who has a sift offender charges, he's telling everybody he's locked up for armed robbery.
But he has so much rank, nobody checks him, nobody asks him, nobody asked to.
to see the proof and shit.
So everybody's just going with the flow.
And he's real dangerous too.
Like he's getting you touch, like in prison.
He can make a phone call and get you touch outside of prison.
Like, yeah, from Georgia to South Carolina to Alabama, he had three states.
So, like, yeah, he's powerful.
So a lot of people didn't really want to speak on that shit.
But like, I'm a stand-up dude.
So I can't just follow no duck.
Like, I can't follow no unrighteous person like, as far as like you breaking game code.
So I get the call, I get the paperwork sent, boom, I find out, I let some of the homies know.
And I'm like, yeah, y'all got to go, like, y'all got to go handle that business.
Like, they can't be part of us no more.
So these dudes, instead of going to go handle the business, they go back and go tell them what I said.
They go put them on game, like, oh, Ebo said that you got these type of charges and he said that you're a rat.
Like, just basically like going back instead of pressing the issue because they're scared to go against them.
because like I said, they got a lot of power, they got a lot of influence.
So instead of them handling the business, they go tell and make it seem like I'm backbiting.
The whole time I'm not backbying because it's a solid, hardcore proof.
Y'all are supposed to go handle protocol.
They didn't do that.
So, boom, I get a call from one of them.
He's like, look, I know the little rumor you're trying to spread and, you know what I'm saying?
I just want you to come down to this building.
Like, you're in violation.
You know you're in violation for that.
Like, telling me like, I want you to come down to this building and you're going to
and you're going to get your violation and you're good.
Like, you still gonna have your rank, but don't be spreading that on my name type shit.
So I straight get on the phone like, bro, I'm not taking no fucking violation.
You is a defender.
Like, I'm not doing none of that shit.
Matter of fact, I don't even want to be a part of this no more.
So he's like, no, da-da-da-da-da.
Ain't no just walking away from this shit, you know that, right?
So I'm like, I bet send them.
So at this time, I already know he's about to send some folks to kill me.
So shit, I get moved to another builder.
I end up trying to bust a move.
I was on one side of the prison.
I told you I was getting the pack in.
I was getting gas.
I was getting anywhere from gas, ice, soft, perks, expo.
I'm getting everything.
Phones.
I'm selling everything down there.
So I got a move where I was on this side of the prison,
but this side of the prison didn't get too much country band.
They didn't get as much as us because this side of the prison,
we could go out on work detail and go.
go out actually into the world and work and get our pack.
Like, yeah, so, and we'll have, like, mules.
They'll fucking tape the shit up and put it in their ass and bring it in.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was selling it to people on the other side of the compound.
All the shit that I bring in there a day.
I just had people drive my prisons like four hours from where I'm from.
So I just used to have people drive down there, drop it off.
We used to go to the same break spot.
They used to go to the same break spot for lunch break.
They'd go pick it up.
It was in a dugout.
They'd go pick up.
They'll tell the police officer, like, hey, I have to use the bathroom.
He used to give him like a bucket, a shovel, and a trash bag, and be like, all right, just
go shit behind the dugout.
But it's a routine now.
So now we find a way to get it in.
So we'll have somebody come drop the shit behind the dugout, act like we go in the shit, pick
up the pack, get it like, secure, put it in your pants.
He bring it on the bus.
While my officer will go take a smoke break, we'll have everything already egged up.
So we had like three or four people on the work detail that would put it in the air.
So they load up all the drugs and shit.
Boom, they bring it in the prison, shit it out.
I got it for sale.
So now I got to move a big, like a big power player, a couple thousand.
I'm trying to go bring this dope from this side of the prison to the other side of the prison
through visitation.
That's the only time we see each other.
Usually I used to have runners and shit.
But like all three of my runners, they used to do that move for me.
They went home.
I never did it myself.
And every time I sent my runners, they was good, never got caught up.
The one time I go do it my fucking self, I'm going to visitation one day to see my parents.
Crazy.
Parents drive four hours away to come see me.
My mom did that day.
Yeah.
I was going to visitation.
I got it on me.
They got to take me in a van to ride to the other side of the prison to go to visitation.
It's like June, July, so it's hot.
So we in this van, no AC, the window closed, so I'm reeking.
I got like a half a pound of week.
I got a half a pound of gas on me.
I got a half a pound of gas on me.
I got a bunch of cigarettes and I got like two or three cell phones in my socks.
I got everything just wrapped up, vacuum seal, ready to go drop it off to them over there and
just sell it, sell it, sell my product.
But like I said, it was so hot in the car that it's like the smell was reeking too bad.
So the officer is like, you smell like weed.
I'm like, what?
Like you smell like weed, man.
You got some weed on you or something?
I was like, no, I don't got no .
But I'm going to be real with you, man.
Like I just been real stressed out.
I smoke the joint in the dorm, da-da-da-da-da, but I ain't got no
y-da-da-da.
They're like, because it's normal, but they know we're smoking.
So I'm trying to just go ahead and let them know like, yeah, I smoke.
That's why you smell it.
So he's like, all right, we go towards the little middle where I'm about to get right
to the visitation room where my mom at.
He's like, man, that shit's strong on you, man.
You sure you, you ain't got nothing on you, matter of fact, get up on the wall.
He packed me down.
He found all the cigarettes.
He found all the gas.
He finds a cell phone, so I'm going down.
So now I'm on the side of the prison where the slofender and the rat is, like the snitch.
So it's already up in the air line.
I know they're about to send some folks at me to try and kill me.
So now I'm even closer.
I'm in their nest now.
I'm on their side of the prison.
They put me in the hole.
I sent the hole for like a month or two.
The police let me out the hole for getting caught with all that shit.
They tried to give me one more chance.
had a random dude that wasn't in our gang, just come up to me like, hey, I'm trying to
relate his message, so-and-so said you got to come to this building so you could take your
violation, man. He's trying to give you another chance. Like, he's trying to give me advice.
Like, bro, just go take your violation. I'm like, I'm not taking no violation for somebody
else being a chomo and a rat. Like, they're not supposed to be a part of us. So just stay
out of the business type shit. I'm just brushing them off. Like, bro, just stay out of the business.
They're going to have to do what they got to do. They got to come get me.
He sent some folks.
He sent three folks at me.
I got stabbed up.
I got stabbed.
He sent three folks at me.
They come in my dorm.
And it's crazy because the dude that they sent at me, he's been trying to join my game.
But he wasn't never like that.
He was just a cool dude.
Whenever my homie used to try and extort him or do something to him, I always be like, y'all,
chill.
Like, he good, he good.
Or he's about to be getting in little fights.
And I always tell people like, just leave him alone.
He good.
I was cool with him, but I knew that wasn't for him.
So I'm like, bro, you don't need to be in this shit.
Like, you're good.
I see him on the other side of the prison.
I see him in the dorm.
I'm like, oh, what up, bro?
He's like, what up?
But he's moving fast.
Like, he just keep it pushing.
But this was my, like, dude, like, my smoke buddy.
We'd be on the phone together and shit.
I let him use my phone and all that shit.
So when he just like kind of brushed me off, I was like, what up?
And walk past, that was kind of weird, but I didn't really think nothing of it.
I get punched in the back of the head.
So I get punched in the back of the head.
the head and I turn around and I look, it's him.
Something like, what, you?
You who they sent?
That's when they clicked in my head, like, oh, they sent him to get me so he can initiate
himself in the game.
And you're the same one that was begging me to get in the game, you were soft as hell.
And I tried to say, like, I tried to keep you out of that.
I turned around in disbelief, so I'm like, is you?
They sent you.
Like, what's up?
So we're squaring up, we're just about to fight.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't even got my knife on me.
Just a one-on-one fight, but he got two more people with him.
So we fight.
I end up dropping his ass
As soon as I drop him
Like instead of my instincts kicking in
My instinct should have kicked in like
Okay, I dropped him and I focus on these two
Instead of me doing it
I just black out
Because we're in the middle of the fight
And he just dropped
So my first instinct was to get on top of him
And finish him
So I'm on top of him
I'm punching him
I'm punching him
I'm on top of him whaling this shit
Boom boom boom
I get stabbed in my arm
I get stabbed first in my shoulder
I don't feel it
I'm still punching him
Still on top of I'm punching him
I get stabbed again in the back of my arm right here.
I really didn't feel that.
And adrenaline pumping.
I'm trying to fuck them up.
I got stabbed again in my spine.
Like on my lower back, like on my spine.
That one I felt and I heard it.
Like I heard my flesh pop.
So I'm like, oh shit.
But I'm on top of them.
And when I get stabbed in my back, I hear it and I feel it.
So I like stumble over him type shit.
But I'm still on top of them.
I stumble over him and go over them.
So they help them up.
I never saw the knife, mind you.
I never even saw the knife.
I never got stabbed in front of me.
It was all from behind while I was on top of them.
So by the time, I'm like, what the fuck?
I turned around.
They were running out of my dorm because they didn't even live in the same dorm.
Like the police left all the doors open to all the dorms and they came in my dorm.
So after that, they all start running out of my dorm.
I ain't have my knife on me, so I'm running.
I'm trying to chase after them.
but I ain't got no knife.
So I get towards the front of the dorm, I just find a mop stick, like a long-ass mop stick,
and I just whacking them, I'm chasing them.
I'm whacking them in the back of the head, like, trying to chase them.
I whack him like two or three times, and my bunkmate just grabbed me.
Big-ass older dude.
He was a G-D.
I'll never forget that shit.
Like, I was in, I was a blood, and he was a GD, but we were just tight like that.
And he was just like, bro, trying to chase them.
Like, bro, you're about to bleed out.
Like, you don't feel that?
Like, bro, you could die in here, bro.
So I'm not knowing whole time adrenaline pumping.
I know I'm stabbed, but I never been stabbed before like that, so I didn't know how serious
it was.
In Georgia we have white state pants.
So I look at the back of my pants and I see the back of my pants legs red, both of my
legs.
Like just my whole ass, my legs, the whole back of this shit is just red.
It's white at the front, red, completely drenched at the back because he stabbed me in my lower
back.
So I'm like, damn, once he said that, that's when I realized like, damn, I'm bleeding out bad.
I'm bleeding out pretty bad.
So they're trying to patch me up in there.
They're like, bro, they can patch that up on your arm, but your back, you got to go to medical.
So I go to medical.
They're like, yeah, you got to go to a free world hospital, like in the real world.
So they cuff me up, put me in the ambulance.
They take me to the closest hospital.
Oh, they're telling me, don't go to sleep.
Like, you lost so much blood.
Like, if you go to sleep, you might not wake up.
Like, don't go to sleep.
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I'm good.
I'm asking them, like, am I going to be able to walk?
Like, da-da-da-da-da.
They're like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Like, it's a half an inch away from your spine.
You were just running.
Yeah, shit's crazy.
While the adrenaline was rushing, I felt still invincible.
But after, like, by the time I got to the hospital, that shit was aching bad.
That shit was aching bad.
They finally came back to the room.
It was like, man, literally, if it was a half an inch closer or a half an inch deeper,
you would have been paralyzed because it was right down.
directly on my spine.
So they were like, but you will be able to walk, you good.
So like the first two or three days, I had to use a walker, like, and just slowly just walk
and then I progress and then I get good where I can walk, but it hurts like hell because
it's still a wide open wound.
I end up getting out the dorm, I mean, when I get back to the prison, they take me to the
hole.
They take me to the hole because I didn't tell who it was.
So they just know I was in an altercation, but they don't know who's the other person.
So I ain't tell on the person that stabbed me or the person I fought on none of that.
So they're like, oh, you don't want to tell you're going to go to the hole.
So now I'm fucked up.
I'm sitting in the hole, stabbed up, healing up, just pissed.
They put me in the hole for some months.
They let me out the hole.
I end up going to a dorm with not the people that, not the person that stabbed me and the person I fought,
but somebody that they associate with.
So as soon as I seen them, I didn't even get to unpack my shit yet.
Like, getting the dorm, it's a couple of people that I'm cool with, though, in there.
And they're telling me, like, hey, that dude up there, he messed with buddy in them.
Like, he's their boy, and he keeps walking past the room you assigned to.
So we just smoking in the room.
You think he's now going to come at you?
Yeah, yeah.
So we in the room smoking.
My home boys, they're telling me what's going on.
So I'm like, I'm looking.
I see him.
I'm in the room, though, so he can't see me.
But I'm just seeing him walk past my room.
He'll, like, look in my room.
So I'm like, oh, yeah, he's on that bullshit.
I still got my mat, all my property just sitting on the table.
I ain't even put it in my room yet.
So I'm like, oh yeah, I'm going to have to crash out.
Like, I can't even stay here.
I can't stay in his dorm.
So he fuck around and go to his room.
He's taking a piss.
I open his door.
I just start stabbing his ass.
I stab him like four or five times on some shit.
Like, I got to get him before he get me.
I stab him a couple times, push him over, lock him in his room.
So I go to the front door and tell them folks like, hey man, I don't even want to be in this door.
I don't even want to be in this dorm.
I ain't trying to live here.
I hide my knife and everything.
So the officer, like, damn, you just got in this dorm today.
Like, you don't want to stay here?
I was like, yeah, no, I'm not feeling it, man.
You know, I just got in some shit.
And I'm just trying to stay away from anybody.
You know, I can get into a way.
I just want to go to another dorm.
So they put me in a little cage outside the dorm.
And they're like, all right, we about to find you another dorm.
We got you.
I'm sitting outside in the cage for like 30 minutes.
No, not 30 minutes, about 15 minutes.
And next thing you know, they come.
I'm like, did y'all find me a dorm?
They're like, we ain't finding a dorm.
You're going back to the hole.
We know that was you that just did that.
I'm thinking I got all the sins.
I thought I covered all my tracks.
I had my knife washed off, took the blood off.
I gave it to one of my home boys told them, yeah, just send it to me when I get to this dorm.
Type shit whenever I get to my new dorm.
But the police already put two and two together.
Like, you just got in here.
Somebody got stabbed.
Now you say you want to leave.
So they came and got me, put me in a hole.
They locked me down on this shit called the tear program.
It's 24-hour lockdown.
So I was on the 24-hour lockdown shit for like nine months.
Three showers a week.
Limited phone calls.
Yeah, like that shit is hell, especially in the middle of the summer.
I'm down there, South Georgia too.
That's where my prison was at.
So it's like 110 degrees, no fan, no ACs.
I'm burning up behind the door 24 hours for nine months straight.
They ended up sending me to another prison.
I did the rest of my time.
I got sent to another level five prison.
So whole time after I do my nine months in solitary confinement on the tier program, they
sent me to another worst prison, making state prison.
That's like top three where I just went from this prison to another terrible prison.
Like things getting killed every day.
Like damn there every day.
Like damn the worst than out in the real world.
I get to the next prison and the dude who I told them was a defender.
He ended up in somebody in prison.
So I'm like, what the hell?
So they called me in the room.
Like, I was in the dorm.
At this time, I'm not gang banging no more.
I didn't got away from it.
But there was some people that was in that same gang
that was at this new prison.
So they called me in the room.
They called me in the room like, hey, come here real quick.
They got them on FaceTime.
They got the dude tied up and stabbed up, beat up.
They kidnapping him, and this is supposed to be a big homie, big, big homie, but he gay.
He gay.
Like, you can't be in the gang and be gay.
Right.
So now you don't got caught in this dude, and they're trying to show me this.
They, like, they showing me him getting tortured at the other prison that I was just at.
And they was like, bro, we want you back in the gang.
Like, the shit that they had going on down there at that prison that was not supposed to go on.
Like, we need you back.
You a real one.
I'm like, they show him like, look what they're doing to him.
Like, that was some fucked up shit.
Now they're getting them for it.
Like, he just worked somebody that.
down there, they just ran a, they ran a, uh, a hip kit on the dude and they found the dude
semen in his ass, like some real freaking gay shit.
So now they're torturing them, kicked them out the gang.
They're trying to ask me to get back in the game.
And I just told him, you know how I'll think about it.
Like, I'm straight.
Like, them folks was in our same gang and they turned on me for a s offender.
Yeah, they didn't even look into it.
They didn't even look into it.
Like, it was not no rumor, it wasn't no back buying.
Like, he's literally locked up for this shit and he's just telling you that he's locked up
for armed robbery.
Y'all not even going to go look this shit up?
Like, y'all just so scared of this man because he got so much power that y'all not
even following protocols.
So, yeah, they end up getting his later on down the line.
They find out that the other dude did tell they found this paperwork.
They didn't stab him up.
They just put him on compound restriction.
Like, he got life.
So, like, he's going to have to be in the whole damn for the rest of his life.
Maybe one day they might let him come back out and, you know, just be his self.
But he's not part of the game, but they didn't stab him up.
They just say he can't be on any compound.
Like, you can't live with nobody.
What year did you get out?
I got out 2016.
Oh, no.
Yeah, I got out 20.
I'm tripping.
I got locked up in 2016.
I got out September, 2023.
So I did seven.
I did my full seven years.
I maxed out.
Came home.
Started a trucking company from the money that I made in there.
I just saved it.
Started my trucking company.
and I've just been legit ever since I made music, I rap.
Did you get your CDL?
No, I actually had a truck in the oil field in Texas, in Odessa, Texas, and Houston and
and Shreveport, Louisiana.
So it's a big oil industry out there.
So my truck driver was hauling oil.
I just had a driver out there, so he just hauled oil for me.
I was making some good money.
Making some good money off there.
It's like the legal version of trapping.
Like, legal version of selling dope.
Like, you're selling halls of oil.
So you got water, you got cargo, all the type of shit.
I just went for what makes the most money and that's oil.
So just been running my oil company, making my music.
I've been rapping, I've been doing shows.
Like, I've been home two years and I've probably done like 50 shows.
I even got booked for a show in Nigeria.
So that was crazy.
Like, I still got my passport and then, like, it's crazy because I really don't know how the system works.
Because they say if you're failing, you're not supposed to be able to lead a country.
but I don't know if it's because that...
It's not true?
Not true.
Okay, yeah.
So, yeah, I'm living proof.
You can leave the country.
Yeah, I went to Amsterdam.
I was probably a year.
I'd been on probation for a year.
And I have two...
Two of my charges are passport fraud.
Yeah.
I had to go to the judge and ask him,
can I get my passport?
And they're like,
you got passport fraud.
But I was like, and I need to leave the country.
Yeah.
Because, you know, your PO can't let you do it.
Yeah.
You know, I had to go to the judge, but yeah, you can definitely leave the country.
Yeah.
And I know other guys that have left the country and come back.
Yeah.
If you can get your passport, you can leave.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So I already had my passport since the kid, like, because I've been to Nigeria when I was younger and stuff a couple of times.
So I just got my passport renewed.
And I went to Nigeria.
I had a show out there.
I stayed out there for three weeks.
So it was pretty cool.
Then I'd just been everywhere.
Like New York, L.A., Miami, just been performing, making music, running my business.
Just staying out the way.
Just, for real.
I'm just trying to, I already lived all that shit.
I already been through all the crimes.
So now I'm just focused on music and business.
So that's all right now.
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