Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Daddy Yankee's Producer, a Hit Gone Wrong, & Life in Prison

Starting point is 00:00:00 He's the one that brought Daddy Yankee to New York, because he's like, you're a boss now. Our block was a $100,000 block weekly. So the guy called for me to get hit. They wind up shooting at the manager thinking it was me. Thanks God, that I didn't know it was him because I wouldn't be here right now telling this story. I'd probably be doing life in prison right now.

Starting point is 00:00:18 When I was younger, my mom's was actually the hitter. What I mean by that is my mom was the, like, a big drug dealer back then. Okay. As in drug dealer dealt with ARA. that came to our house since we was young. My mom had spots, clubs. My mom took care all six of us basically by herself

Starting point is 00:00:41 because a lot of our dads wasn't there for us, so she held the whole fort down with us. Me as growing up, being young, I always been like a little nosy, little curious. So I would see these guys come in my house, these tall white Pakistani guys blue. eyes coming with a bag to my house. After they came into my house, I would see them go right into the room. They locked the door. I would follow them. And like where the door's at,

Starting point is 00:01:12 basically is like the knob be messed up sometimes, you know, in the hood where I'm raised in the Bronx. So I look through and I see my mom picking up the mattress, putting a whole bunch of stacks of money on the table. I'll see them pass or something. They'll get put it in the bag. They'll walk back out, maybe three hours later, they'll go back in the room, close again. When they were closed again, I would like look at everything and be like, what is that glass, like a piece of glass mirror with a whole white mountain on there? So I never knew what it was. I'm talking about I was like six years old, seven years old at this time. So as I would see that, I knew that Christmas would always be big for us, like a lot of presence, a lot of presence,

Starting point is 00:02:03 people knocking on my door, like, what's going on here? I never really knew what was going on. As I'm growing up, like, I had an uncle of mine, my uncle lefty, he was on substance abuse, you know, he used drugs, so I would see him some morning, Saturday morning, you know, we go to school Monday through Friday, Saturday, they wake up early in the morning, and we'll go put on the cartoons

Starting point is 00:02:28 to get as much as cartoons we could, from seven in the morning all the way to like 12 1 o'clock. And my uncle would just slide out the house. When my uncle would slide out the house, Matt, quiet, we just heard the door lock. Who's that? We'll look at the door. Next thing you know, he came back in.

Starting point is 00:02:43 He went into the bathroom. When he were going to the bathroom, Matt, the next thing I know he'll be in there for like an hour in there. I'm like, I got to use the bathroom. He's like, hold up, hold up. So what I would do, I had to pee. I would literally go to the back window and I'll be peeing out the window.

Starting point is 00:03:01 People would be like, yo, what's going on? What's going on? You know, you hear people screaming. I'm like, oh, I'll come back in. The next thing I know, 15 minutes later, he'll open the door. He's all hype.

Starting point is 00:03:12 He's all screaming. He's all singing. I'm like, he just left mad quiet. Like, how is he now, you know, going through all this stuff? So he'll come, he'll open the window, he'll have the hot water on, he'll put bleach.

Starting point is 00:03:26 He'd be cleaning the bathroom. Next thing, you know, my mom's awake up screaming like, yo, lefty, close the window. What you're doing is this is like January, you know, New York in January is freezing outside. She's like, you got the apartment coach, you'd be screaming at him, he'd be singing, he'd be dancing, he put the music on. So this whole time this is going on, I don't really know what this is. As I'm growing up. Is this H or is this like, what is it? This was like, he was doing H.

Starting point is 00:03:54 Okay. So him doing H, but I didn't know he was doing H. at this time because I was so young. As I started to get older and learn about the game and all that, this is how I learned there was that. So I would go to the bathroom and like I told you, I would always be nosy. We have like in the Bronx, we have the heaters that are like, you know, regular steam heaters. So I put my foot on the heat or whatever and something fell.

Starting point is 00:04:19 When something fell, I seen it wrapped up. When I pull it out is a spoon. But the spoon is like burnt and all that. So I'm like, what is that? So when I keep looking to the spoon, I would see a syringe. So I'm like, there's a needle in this. So I'm putting two and two together. I'm like about eight years old.

Starting point is 00:04:38 As I'm growing up that I start looking out my window, a whole bunch of guys outside where my block is from Creston, 193rd. That's called the Mango Pena block. That's a block that we named is a well-known block in the Bronx for trees. I used to see them out the window, pedaling, selling. So I would always look out the window. I was always look out the window to see them. And then from there, my dad was always in and out of prison.

Starting point is 00:05:05 My dad was a man that was always in out of prison. He'll go see me at phases of my life. Like, see me when I was five years old, come out. I'm 10, 15, like that. So as I'm getting old, I'm looking at the older guys outside pedaling. I'm seeing them with cars, jewelry, all types of stuff. I'm looking at this. I got, like I told you, I got two older brothers.

Starting point is 00:05:26 my brother Julio and my brother Tito. My brother Tito left since young, like 16 years old. He came to Florida, started air conditioning refrigeration. So I had my other brother, Julio, that we called POPI. He was always in and out of our house, but he always worked. And, you know, done his thing. So he would come in the phases. Me, I was always home because I'm the youngest.

Starting point is 00:05:45 I of six of us with my sister Christy. My two other sisters, they already moved on out. So as I would see these older guys out the window, my mom, I still couldn't go outside yet. my mom would let me go outside. After my mom let me go outside, now I started going to the store for the older guys. But I'm raised.

Starting point is 00:06:05 It was like two best friends that I had, but we was raised. It's me, my brother Ralphie, that's like my best friend, and Master Splinter. So as we all together growing up, we came up from the sandbox. I would see these older guys peddling.

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Starting point is 00:07:30 here. Go buy me Kentucky Fried Chicken. Here, take $20 for you. And as this is going on, now I'm getting a little older, now I'm getting around the older guys and I'm starting to see what's going on. Now I'm getting closer to the guys that I used to see out the window that got the Mercedes bands, the BMW, all the jewelry.

Starting point is 00:07:47 So as I'm seeing all this occur, my brother's left, and I have only one brother that was in New York with me, this is my brother, Julio. He still missed him for some time, but he always worked. And at one time in his life, you know, he actually worked. He was actually outside with us. But at that time, you know, he wasn't really like into the street. He did what he had to do, but he always took care his family, so he wanted to believe in

Starting point is 00:08:09 to Florida. Now when my brother left to Florida, it's only me alone with my sister and my mom. My dad in and out of jail. As I'm in and out of jail, I'm getting raised with the guys outside. As I'm getting raised with the guys outside, like I told you, there's three of us that was raised together. As we raised together, Matt, as we're coming up in the ranks, you know, I always hung with the older guys. But I always been one to not talk a lot, but always watch everything. Like I told you, I've been watching since the window.

Starting point is 00:08:40 So my brothers, you know, they would come from time to time to come see us and, you know, come see my mom. But my mom was always a single woman by herself on public assistance. And after she was on public assistance, we dealt from check to check. Like the lights would get cut off at home. She would take an extension cord. Asked the neighbor to shoot down an extension cord so we could keep the refrigerator on. Sometimes I would like, she'll have like a little candle around the house, but I couldn't really get next to the candle because it could cause a fire.

Starting point is 00:09:12 So I would have the candle from a distance, but I would be coloring in a coloring book. And sometimes I'm thinking purple is black, black is orange, all different type of colors. when I woke up in the morning to see the picture. The picture was all different colors that it wasn't even the ones I picked. So this is what I came. I grew up on. So, like, as we going with that type of thing, my mom always took us, go to school, and she would go to welfare.

Starting point is 00:09:38 They'll have, like, a dispossess on the door. She'll go to welfare. She'll fix everything up, one-shot deal, all that. So as that's going on, I'm still outside a little bit with the older guys. Now I'm about 12 years old. And they're really close to me now, like, you know, big brothers. So now they got me like, you know, the cops rolled up. Do me a favor, going to the garbage can, go grab the trees out, the garbage can.

Starting point is 00:10:02 So I'll grab the cops to be outside a whole bunch of cops, 20, 30 cops out there. I was a young kid. I acted like I'm going to throw out the garbage. And I would come and grab the bag of trees, put it inside my jacket, run upstairs, and bring it to the older guys. So I was basically saving their money. So as I saved their money, they showed me love, but they never really wanted me to be out there pitching out there because they knew my older brother, they knew my moms, and, you know, they

Starting point is 00:10:30 didn't want really no problems. So at the age of 12 years old, I went to Allenton. Allenton's another block in the Bronx, and I started selling crap. They had a young age. So as this is happening, I'm coming up, I'm pitching for somebody. At the age of 15, I went to Division for Youth, DFI. It's like a juvenile jail. Okay.

Starting point is 00:10:51 Why? Because I went to juvenile jail one day. It was like several things that they put in school. One time I was pedaling and I would go with the boss's money and my money were like $8, $900, $1,500 to school. And one day a kid went and stole like a drill bit in wood class. So when they went, before anybody leaves the class, we got to search everybody. When they searched me, I have $1,500 on me. After I had the $1,500 on me, they called the house.

Starting point is 00:11:19 I said, oh, this is my mom's money. My mom came to school. No, that's my rent money. But the same place I was going to school at was around the same precinct that I would get caught at, like, 13 years old. Right. So they're assuming that they're like, hold up. There was cops that was in that same area as the school that would patrol to school. And they started telling the principal when teacher, yo, he's a drug dealer.

Starting point is 00:11:44 He's a drug dealer. But the only thing is he can't go to jail because he's 12 years old. His mother picks him up and takes him up and takes some. somehow. So now they put like a Pins petition court thing on my mom. So I went to family court. One day was like four in the afternoon. They kept me.

Starting point is 00:12:00 They took me from my mom. They said that my mom couldn't handle me because they already had like several things that they gave the court, several things that I couldn't, you know, that she couldn't deal with me. Like he got caught with $800 of school. He's always fighting. He comes to school with older guys to jump people and, you know, stuff like that in New York.

Starting point is 00:12:17 So as that all was going, down, they take me away from my mom. They put me in placement. I go to placement now. Now I'm in there with guys from all over. White guys, black guys, everybody from every different nationality, every borough, because you know New York City got Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, Manhattan. I'm with all the baddest kids. I'm in a division for youth that's called Spofford. Spofford is like a juvenile jail. There's kids in there that are 12 years old. I did murders, everything I'm in there with them, fight, and I did like a three-year-man placement in there. While I was in there, I was always fighting in there.

Starting point is 00:12:52 You know, I was growing up. I already learned how to be contained, and they would put me in the box. I would lose privileges. So I came out when I was like 16. When I came out at 16 years old, I was more advanced than a lot of the kids that were actually with me.

Starting point is 00:13:08 And this was like, the only one that was a little advanced with me was the one I told you that passed away. I'm going to get some of my brother, Ralphie. He was always in out of jail, always doing shooting since you. young. So as I came out of that, now the older guy see me, my mom already was, you know, I already came out from doing juvenile jail. I got back to my block. Now when I got back to

Starting point is 00:13:29 my block, I was like the number one pellet out there, the number one seller. I'm out there selling seven, eight thousand dollars in trees daily for the bosses. I'm out there dressing like the bosses. I didn't really have to pay no rent because I'm still living with my mom. So I was always with jewelry on, always chains, always as a young kid growing, always in a fashion everything now it was three of my it was three of my friends like I told you me Ralphie and Master Splinter we was all raised together as we was all raised together as we coming up master Splinter basically his older brother cried to the bosses on the block to give him a position on the block mind you I

Starting point is 00:14:12 told you my brothers did it for some time but they left so there was an older the dude of minds that raised me, my man Lou, rest in peace. He's the one that actually, you know, take care of me, show me morals, look, bro. You know, if you got guys, because when I would go to jail and I would get, go to jail, he would bail me out as soon as I seen the judge. Like, the cops would grab me. Come in. What are you doing now?

Starting point is 00:14:34 I'm like, I'm bailed out. They're looking at the computer, like, if I broke out of jail. Right. But he always took care of me. He always made sure that I was out of jail for any type of bail. He wouldn't leave me in jail for nothing. So that gave me the courage to be like, they can't stop me.

Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm going out there to keep on. Like I would go to jail, do 24 hours in jail, come out the very next day, go shower and be outside with a $3,000 pack again out there again, pedaling. And the cops will pull up again and I'll run from them. I'll go in the building, lock the door on them, raise my middle finger at them.

Starting point is 00:15:04 They'll scream from the thing. Don't worry, we're going to get you, and I always used to run from them. Always running. They used to always call me like Flash. They'll have me on the wall. They'll come to search me. I'll hit their hand and run in the alley

Starting point is 00:15:14 because I'm born and raised on that block. It's a black, I told you, Crest in my opinion. So as I'm coming up with the three I'm coming up with, one of the bosses, Grandpa Master Splinter, he winds up coming, and I was working for him. As I'm working for him, one day I get locked up, and he leaves me to go to adolescent in the four building. I was always like a young, smooth kid, you know what I'm saying,

Starting point is 00:15:44 always dressed up. I was always skinny. I don't understand what you said. You see adolescent? Yeah, adolescent is like the juvenile jail. Because you got the adults, but when you're like 16 years old, you're not 15 year and then adolescent. Okay. So the adolescence was more tougher than the adult jail because adolescent, you fight in.

Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah, the little gladiator factories. At that time, you got sneakers, Jordans on. They taking them from you. Now the jail has changed because now you don't get your own sneakers and your own clothes. But if they see you would a pair Jordans on or nice beer jeans on, they'll rob you. They'll jump you. That's how it was. They'll extort you.

Starting point is 00:16:18 Give me your pin number. Because for you to get on the phone, you have to have a pin number. So they'll extort that pin number from you so they can use the phone more from you. You'll go to commissary. They'll steal your commissary, stuff like that. So I never really been into the jail at that time. I did juvenile jail, but now this is older now. So it's now I'm meeting with gangs, and I'm meeting with all type of dudes like that.

Starting point is 00:16:39 As I'm meeting with all type of dudes like that. I remember my first experience. I went in jail with Jordans on. This is when, like, the iceberg era was. out. New York, that was the clothing, like, you know, the Versace glasses, and that's when they had, like, the Bart Simpson clothes. These were, like, real expensive clothes in New York. Like, only the big drug dealers wore this, like, the bosses wore this, but me living at home with my mom, not paying no rent and making so much money, I used to dress just like them. So when I would come into jail

Starting point is 00:17:06 and they would see him in Hispanic or whatever, they would really be ganging up on you, like, the guys from Brooklyn, you know, because I'm, like, I'm from the Bronx, so everybody got different boroughs. You got Bronx, Brooklyn, Mahan, Queens, and Staten Island. Those make the five boroughs in New York City. That's basically the city. Then you got Rochester, upstate, but that's upstate New York Buffalo. So being in the city, we would all go to a jail that's called Rikers Island. And in Rikers Island, they will cut you with a razor or they extort you or whatever. So one day I'm in there, but I remember the older guys would always tell me like, bro, if you ever go to Rikers Island, make sure you don't come out, you come back or out what you got, came in with. Because if you come back out and you

Starting point is 00:17:45 don't come out with your stuff. Basically, you got extorted and, you know, you're soft. You understand me? They just robbed you. You got robbed yourself. And that'll spread all around that. You got robbed. So I'm like, but these guys with kids that was like bigger than me.

Starting point is 00:18:00 You know, bigger than me. I weighed 115 pounds. There's kids in there that are 16 years old that weighed 220. You understand? So I remember my first night I'm in there. I get locked up for Grandpa Master Splinter because it's true with them. You got Master Splinter and you got Grandpa. Grandpa was the one basically that we worked for.

Starting point is 00:18:18 Okay. And what? He had gotten busted? He got busted. I'm going to get. Okay. He got busted. So he was the boss of the block.

Starting point is 00:18:25 He had the whole block. Everybody worked for him, everything. As now women had a lesson that time, they tried to rob my sneakers from me. When they try to rob me, I got like one foot on. My toes is curled so they don't take one foot off me. I'm fighting with them. They choking me. And the officers was actually down with these kids.

Starting point is 00:18:45 what they were called was the team. Like, they're the ones that will rob everybody, do whatever. If they were somebody that came in, the police would turn their head, let you get beat up, let you rob them, whatever. Because maybe the officers was like, let's say, if an officer was from Brooklyn, and he knew the kid's uncle, he would defend them. So I wound up fighting with them that day.

Starting point is 00:19:04 I wound up fighting. I go into a slob sink. A slob sink is where they got, like, the brushes to clean the toilets and all that. Yeah. So after the kids jumped me, the cop breaks it up. I'm like, I'm a little like, you know, with anger crying. I'm like, oh, I remember this. I go into the slop sink.

Starting point is 00:19:20 They was all over. I go into the slop sink. I run down on one of them. I start hitting him with a brush. The cop comes back in again. He, like, choked me. Matt, that I thought I was almost dying. He literally choked me, picked me up, got me out the unit.

Starting point is 00:19:34 You don't listen. You don't listen. Choking me. How did you? Whatever? The lieutenant came. What happened? What happened?

Starting point is 00:19:39 I'm like, nothing happened. Now the next morning, I see another one of the kids that jumped me. He goes into the bathroom early in the morning, and when I went into the bathroom, when I looked at my eye, I had like a little black eye. So I see him coming to the bathroom, and I start fighting with him in the bathroom.

Starting point is 00:19:55 So now when I'm doing that, they're giving me my respect because he's like, oh shit, after we jumped him, he went and got the slop sink brush. He went and hit with him. The next morning he woke up. He looked at his eye. His eye was so when I caught another one of them,

Starting point is 00:20:08 beat him up in the bathroom. So now they start giving my respect. But the whole time I'm calling Grandpa Master Splinter bail me out, bail me out, bail me out. And this was a guy that I used to make $8,000 and $9,000 a day for him. So I'm like, damn, how would you not bail me out and look at everything I'm going through?

Starting point is 00:20:26 So eventually he came back, he bails me out. When he bails me out, I come out, but in my mind I'm already with so much anger in me and now the kids is all respecting me in the jail that I'm like, when I go home, I'm not working for him no more. So I wind up working for another older guy, that I was wood. Right.

Starting point is 00:20:46 So as I'm working with the guy that I'm wood, another guy on the block? Yeah, another guy on the block because he was like, he was the boss, but he would give everybody all the trees to sell.

Starting point is 00:20:55 So then they'll find their own little workers to work. But he was the main boss at that time. So now I went to go work for another guy that was my boy Lou. He's like the one that started the reggaeton with Daddy Yankee and all of them. That's the one that passed away.

Starting point is 00:21:10 He's the one that brought Daddy Yankee to New York. He recorded them and gave him their popularity. in New York. Right. So as that goes down, he tells me, yo, what's up? You want to work with me?

Starting point is 00:21:20 I'm like, I'm going to work with you. So when I take the work from him, the other guy comes, Grandpa Master Splinter, he got like maybe like $8,000 or $9,000 full of bud, full of trees. And he's like, yo, here. I'm like, no, I'm not taking that.

Starting point is 00:21:33 I got work from this guy already. So then he's seen that I did that like two or three times. And he's like, yo, what's up, bro? You're not going to work with me no more. So giving him the respect. I'm like, now when I finish, you know, I'm beating around the bush. So I get locked up

Starting point is 00:21:46 When I get locked up He calls, he tells his nephew Go get Julito in the park Because I used to always play a lot of dice Since young I used always gamble since young So as I get all the dice Since I'm young

Starting point is 00:21:57 I wind up coming up When I come up He tells me Yo I'm gonna tell you something bro You lost my bail money I said I never lost your bail money But I was already a little upset with him And I held a lot of stuff on him already

Starting point is 00:22:10 Because he was already Like the older guy That was raising And so I respected him. You know, I came up with that respect. Right. So to the end that I told him, you know what? I'm going to tell you, son.

Starting point is 00:22:20 I'm not paying you no money. And the day that I got locked up, if I did lose the bill, was the day that I was going upstairs at 11 o'clock at night. And you told me come back down that there's some customers there. So as he told me there was customers there, Matt, in another scenario, when I walked down and the guy tells me, give me 10 bags of weed. When I'm pulling the 10 bags out, the guy pulls out a gun on me,

Starting point is 00:22:43 don't move. on the floor, get on the floor, it's police. Right. So they locked me up. So the next day I had to go to court for the time he bailed me out. So when he bailed me out, I told him if that. So he's like, oh, why are you talking to me like that?

Starting point is 00:22:58 Why are you talking to me? I said, you know what, bro, I'm tired of your shit already. Like, you're not going to keep using me no more. I don't even care about that. So he went to swing on me. When he went to swing on me. How old is this guy? This guy's older than me.

Starting point is 00:23:09 I'm like 15 years old, 16. He's like 20-something. So he goes to swing. swing on me. When he goes to swing on me, he's an old man, bro. That's not, that's not old. He's 28 years. No, he's like 26 years old, 25 years old. He said he was an old master splinter. No, no, but

Starting point is 00:23:23 this is the time when we was younger. This is when we younger. Right. I'm thinking a 60-year-old guy, though. No, no, no. So after he because there's two of them, that's why I said the old one and you got the old grandpa and the regular master splinter. So as he goes, Matt, and he goes to swing on me, I duck

Starting point is 00:23:40 him, and he slips, and I wind up punching on him. I punched on him, I cracked his head with a ring I had in front of everybody one summer. He's the boss out there now. Now I'm thinking like, oh, she's going to send to kill me. He's going to do whatever he's going to do to me. So as that comes, I run upstairs because my mom always told me whatever you owe anybody you always pay no matter what happens. So I ran upstairs. I owed him $800. So I took it from the other guy that I was working for. I threw him his money. Here's your money. He's like, you got to leave this block.

Starting point is 00:24:12 But I'm born and raised on that block all my life, man. So my mom comes down and is like, yo, he's not going nowhere. So I guess he started hulling up with all the older guys to get me out the block. And they're like, yo, Julito's not going nowhere, bro. Right. Just because you have a problem with him.

Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah, just because you got a problem with him. So then they grabbed me and asked me what happened and I explained to them what happened. So they wind up giving me the reason. Like basically, you're just mad because he didn't want to work with you no more. So the guy Lou now, After me and him have the fight, we didn't talk no more.

Starting point is 00:24:45 Two months later, after that, he gets locked up. When he gets locked up, he gets locked up. They find them with guns, drugs, powder. They used to bring powder from Puerto Rico. He gets caught up with all the powder. He gets caught up with everything. He goes to jail. He goes to do a five to ten.

Starting point is 00:25:03 When he goes to do a five to ten sentence, my boy Lou now has the torch now of the block. He's the owner of the block now. So now with all the bosses, they saw separate in the block. Like, you got this corner, I got the middle, you got the next corner. Right. So now I'm peddling for Lou. As I'm pedaling for Lou, I'm coming up in my ranks.

Starting point is 00:25:21 Any problems that happen, I'm out there. If it was some problem with Lou, I would go run upstairs. I knew where the guns was at. I would get the guns. If it was any, I'll handle anything that had to be handled for him or whatever because he was always the one that used to like Christmas time would come. He would be like, yo, come on. Take me to the clothing store, spent $2,000.

Starting point is 00:25:40 I'm here, that's your gift. If I got locked up, like I told you, he always looked out. If my mom needed anything, he would always look out. Anybody that was, he was around, if it was my brother, whoever, he was always mad, Cool with, so I had that respect for him. Now, as he was taking care of the one, of Grandpa, Master Splinter, he got locked up to do the five to ten. He didn't tell on that case, because I know you want to know,

Starting point is 00:26:04 when did he tell we're going to get to this, right? So now he's holding him down. Like, you know, like guys do. You're in jail. You're my guy, man. I take care of you. I take care of your family. I take care everything.

Starting point is 00:26:14 Now the guy in jail, he wants more and more. Now he starts threatening my boy, Lou. And Lou was a kid that came from Puerto Rico that, in Puerto Rico, they make it happen to you. Like, it's going to happen. So he comes out and he already sees that I'm, you know, loyal to him. He would leave me in the house with $300,000, $300,000, lock the door, tell me don't don't open the door to nobody this door don't open i got the key i'll open it he'll leave me in his crib i'll have a gun on me young and i'll just sit right there watching basketball

Starting point is 00:26:48 whatever whatever don't order no food you don't open that door for nothing he'll come back the money's there they'll take the three 400 000 out take it send it to wherever they had to send it to porto rico whatever they would do doing so lu comes to me one day and he grabs me he tells me look i want to tell you something i'm like what up He's like, I'm doing this album. He was doing an album called Borikwa and Y. It was a compilation album. This is how we got to meet Daddy Yankee,

Starting point is 00:27:15 all the reggaeton artists that are right now, man, that are basically the top reggaeton artists millionaires right now that are in the game right now. Right. He brought all of them before there was nothing. Paid him, paid him, paid him, so he tells me, look, bro, I'm leaving to Puerto Rico. I said, why are you leaving?

Starting point is 00:27:30 He tells me I'm leaving because I don't want Will, I don't want Old Master Splinter to come home, and I have to do something to him. You understand me? So I'm going to avoid that. He said, but look, what I'm going to do for you? I'm like, what? He's like, I'm going to leave you my position.

Starting point is 00:27:48 I was shocked. Like, I think he was just coming up to tell me something. He goes in the closet, man. He pulls out five pounds of trees. Take that. He has, like, maybe 300 rams of powder. He's like, take that. He's like, look, there's this gun in there or whatever.

Starting point is 00:28:11 Stay with one of them, the rest of them I'm going to get rid of. So I'm like, what you want me to do with this? He's like, you're a boss now. Now you look for people to work for you now. You can do what you want to do out here. You born and raised on this block. You proved yourself, do what you do. You take his people?

Starting point is 00:28:26 No, he tells me, like, yeah, like stay with everything I have. I'm going to Florida. He's already made his money. He's made like millions of dollars already. He brought mad powder from Puerto Rico. He met like a real cover girl. model over there that he was behind in Puerto Rico. Plus, he was doing this compilation album.

Starting point is 00:28:41 So he said, before I get into problems with the old master splinter, Grandpa Master Splinter, let me leave, but nobody could tell you nothing. He said, I just want you to guarantee me one thing. I'm like, what is it? He's like, bro, if I ever get fucked up around there and you need me and I need you to come back to this block, guarantee me that I won't have no problem with you, that you would help me. I said, of course I would help you.

Starting point is 00:29:04 You'll help me all my life. plus you're giving me this opportunity right now. So he left. Now is my first time. Now I'm actually crowned now of being able to do my own thing out there as a boss now. So my friends that I'm raised with me, Ralphie and Master Splinter,

Starting point is 00:29:23 we were all raised together, but Master Splinter was upset that they made that decision for me. And he always had like a little jealous animosity towards me because his brother used to put us to fight together and I would beat him up when we was like five and seven years old. And his brother would tell him, oh, you got fucked up. Julito, you won.

Starting point is 00:29:42 Here's the $20. So I guess his brother breaking his ego. As we grew up, he always grew up to be a guy like always jealous of me. Man, I'm giving you this good story now. Now it's coming better now. Now he's got to get to the meat now. So now, man, as he comes now that we're growing up, he's always been a guy like chasing behind my girls.

Starting point is 00:30:05 If I had a girlfriend, he would tell him, oh, he's with another girl, or he was one of them guys like that. Right. And it's crazy because he always had more than me, man. As we coming up, growing up, he had Lamborghinis, he had this, he had that, but I was always just more smoother than him.

Starting point is 00:30:20 You understand, I was more funnier. He thought that he was, like, real conceited. Like, he would be violating dudes. I would never violate. I was cool everybody. If something happened, I would get busy. You know, in New York, basically getting busy. If it was a problem,

Starting point is 00:30:35 I'll take care the problem immediately. I wouldn't talk if we get on it. So as we growing up, me and him, he would grow up with this jealousy towards me. And I don't know how because me and him are born and raised since the sandbox. Like one of my brothers even have, has a daughter with his sister. You know what I'm saying? So as we growing up, he always had this jealous thing of me

Starting point is 00:30:57 because the older guys pay me more attention. Let's say, for instance, Matt, you was the guy that did whatever you did. And you would be like, to come with me here and you wouldn't take him. So he was always jealous of me. So now as we growing up, growing up like that, it all started like his real jealousy was he had a, I had a girlfriend, not a girlfriend,

Starting point is 00:31:19 but a girl I used to mess with that I went and got locked up now as an adult to go do some time, like 90 days. When I come out, he's with the girl. He wind up having kids with the girl and all that. I've never been that type of dude like that. Like if your wife is your wife, I'm always respect. I'm not going to break out friendship over no woman.

Starting point is 00:31:40 This is how I'm raised. My brothers raised me, my mom raised me, and my man Lou, rest in peace. That passed away. He wasn't like that. He was a type of dude that he's in the same room with you. You'll go to the bathroom. He'll try to rap to your wife. He'll do a lot of sucker shit like that.

Starting point is 00:31:53 You know, guys that are no good, but they always would do things like this. This was how he was raised to do. So as we got older, he always lived with that bone, that that girl that he had, he had kids would. And guys would tell him, oh, yo, that, oh, damn, bro, how you have a baby with that girl? And Julito was with that girl, and y'all's supposed to be best friends, brothers. So he always lived with that animosity. So as me and him worked together for time, we worked together on the same block.

Starting point is 00:32:19 But we was the type, like, I told you, he had always more than us, but we was the ones me and my brother Ralphie that would help him get to the top. Like, you know, we all three together. Right. You have the connect in California. We're going to get the from the guys in California. We'll move everything. nobody's gonna rob us.

Starting point is 00:32:37 But once you get up, throw the ladder back down so we could climb up with you, he would lie to us. He would never throw the ladder back down, man. So it got to a point in life that I was like, you know what, we're not doing this no more. I'm gonna do my own thing. I'm respected on my own name. He was only respected because of me and my brother Ralphie.

Starting point is 00:32:55 So after that I did my own thing. While I'm doing my own thing out there, he was jealous because he couldn't tell me nothing. Now I'm out there with him. I'm out there with him. I've done time like I told you in the story since juvenile. I did juvenile time. I've been in jail, adolescents, met a lot of bloods, gangsters, whoever they all respected me.

Starting point is 00:33:17 And as you in that life coming up, you know, you start getting respected. He was one he never left our block where we're from. But I would go to every other block, hang out, do this. Everybody would invite me. I'll go there. So as we're coming up now, me and him, I told him we're not doing this no more. We're separating this thing. As soon as we separated, now I told him where I was born and raised that is the building called 2,600 is three buildings on my block.

Starting point is 00:33:43 So I wind up moving. I left them with the whole situation in one building and I went to the next building. Grandpa Master Splinter now is doing his five to ten. He comes home. But his brother is the one that cried to Grandpa Master Splinter to give him a spot. So you see how he got his spot? He got his spot basically because his brother went crying to one of the bosses. I got my spot because my man Lou left to Puerto Rico and said, here, take this, take this.

Starting point is 00:34:12 You earned it now. So now as we're doing us, we're doing us. They come to me and they tell me, look, so we don't get into problems because our workers just to be fighting. There's a pole like a light pole that separates the buildings. He's like, look, you're going to stay on your side. I'm going to stay on my side. So I'm like, all right. So as he's doing what he's doing, he gets locked up and does 28 days in jail, Matt.

Starting point is 00:34:37 When he does the 28 days in jail, he act like he came home from a four-year or five-year bid. So I'm like 28 days, bro, I'd be copping out for 28 days since I was 12 years old, doing 20, 30, two months, three months a year, two years. Like, it's about time you did sometimes. So you could start respecting people. And when people get locked up, you know what it is to get locked up and send them their commissary money. and bail them out or whatever. So now as that goes down, me and him when they get into an argument

Starting point is 00:35:04 because he comes out and tells me, oh, the girl, I'm like, bro, what you mean the girl, bro? You're supposed to be my guy. You went and took a girl that you knew that was with me and had a baby with her. That's not real, that's not real, nigga shit. Like, you know, that's not real.

Starting point is 00:35:20 So he, I guess, must have gotten his emotions. So after he does the time, his workers tell him, He's like, how much money does he got when he did his time? They're like, bro, we didn't got no money. We never sold nothing in 28 days. Julito sold everything. But what they were doing was they were actually robbing him.

Starting point is 00:35:39 His own work is robbing him. They'll lie and be like they wasn't moving nothing. They'll blame it on me because they know me and him had animosity. So now when that happens, I tell him now, when he comes home, he sees everybody coming to me. Everybody buying all the trees off me. I'm talking about our block was like a, a $100,000 block weekly making.

Starting point is 00:36:01 So he sees all the, everybody coming to us. After he sees everybody coming to us, they're the ones that have vented the poll. So him and master, now his master splinter grandpa and him, he's master splinter. They get together now to go against me. When they go together against me, I'm killing them.

Starting point is 00:36:22 I'm selling everything. I'm making all the money. I'm making all the money. They see me by Jaguar. They see me there. It's always dressing. Now they tell their workers, forget about the poll. Start going on that side to disrespect me.

Starting point is 00:36:34 So my nephew pulls up from Texas, Adam, HD. I have now a bunch of workers on the block. I got a Chrysler 300. Hand me. I'm getting money. I'm doing good. One of the topest times in my life. Like I'm up now.

Starting point is 00:36:50 Now I'm really the number one on the block. Now you got Master Splinter and Grandpa Master Splinter. they're looking from the pole upset. They're telling the workers, pass the pole. Don't worry, pass the pole. So my nephew comes and he's like, yo, um, do you know my uncle Julito? He's like, your uncle Julito? Who's your uncle, Julito?

Starting point is 00:37:10 We don't know him. So I call, my mom calls me and she's like, Julito. I'm like, well, she's like, Adams on the block. But my nephew just came from Texas, from San Antonio, Texas. The block is type hot. The cops will roll up, lock you up for no reason. Excuse me So I jet over there to the block

Starting point is 00:37:28 When I'm jumping out I parked the car in the pump When I parked the car in the pump This guy comes running up to me Smoke smoke smoke smoke smoke So I'm like Who is he? You know he's offering me

Starting point is 00:37:40 Boom so after he offers me I'm like yo who are you So I look at my manager And I'm like you know him He's like bro I'm not gonna lie to you bro These dudes have been disrespecting all day I'm like what you mean He's like yo they passing the poll

Starting point is 00:37:55 they're running on customers that we have everything. So I'm like, all right, so I go up to him. And he's like, what's up? You need son? I'm like, yo, who are you working for? He's like, oh, I'm working for grandpa, Master Splinter, and Master Splinter. I'm like, bro, you're not even supposed to be on this side. He tells me, yo, who the fuck is you?

Starting point is 00:38:14 I'm like, who am I? I wind up punching on him. We start fighting. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I wound up, I wound up fighting with him. I punched him. I hit him on the eye. His eyes open.

Starting point is 00:38:24 I grabbed him, I threw him over the pole, I grabbed all his weedy hat, I threw it all on top of him. He goes running to Master Splinter. Yo, Colito went, did this, this, this to me. So now I'm on the block. He comes like an hour later, rose up on the block, rose up on me. He has a nice BMW or whatever. He rose up. He comes to me like, yo, what's up?

Starting point is 00:38:46 Yo, why the fuck you did that? I said, why I did that? What happened with the pole situation? I thought we wasn't going to respect the poll. He's like, oh, it wasn't me, it wasn't me, it was grand. I said it don't matter who it was. One thing, and we raised together, like, since the sandbox, I said, one thing we're not going to do I'm not going to permit

Starting point is 00:39:04 is for y'all to disrespect me. That's off the limits. Like, I don't got no type of hands for you, but you're not going to disrespect me out here. That's one thing I'm not going to tolerate. So he's like, oh, what you mean, what you mean? And I was already tired of his shit already, too. So I told him, but what's up?

Starting point is 00:39:21 Like, do you feel a certain way or something? I said, if you feel a certain way, let me know. It's summertime. You know, summertime in New York is crazy on the blocks. Like, it's the hood, you know, the block. Everybody's outside, a bunch of girls. And a bunch of girls will come to our block because we was a bunch of guys that got money out there.

Starting point is 00:39:38 So they would hang out there. They would eat. We'll go out. We'll do whatever. So everybody's out there. The block was like a block that was like pumping, like a real nice block. Everybody out there, music, cars, all type of guys.

Starting point is 00:39:49 So in front of everybody asking, what's up, you want to fight? So I take my shirt off. I'm going to take my chain off. He tells one of my friends, yo, go get that, go get that. Right? So he's like, go get that.

Starting point is 00:40:01 What you mean? So my friend tells him, yo, I ain't got nothing to do with that. That's between y'all because me and the kid that works for him, mind you, he was all friends. But when I separated, I left them with everybody, even the guys that work with him, they were still my friends,

Starting point is 00:40:13 like that I went to school with we were still cool friends. Just you work for him. I work for Matt. That's just how it is. We respect each other. He's like, well, I'm not getting into that. So tell him, why don't you go get that? Why don't you go get that?

Starting point is 00:40:26 I said, yo, let me tell you, son. Let it be the last time you ever sent somebody to get something for me. Because if you ever, we're going to take it to a different level. So he's like, oh, world. So I said, what's up? You don't want to fight? We don't got to fight in here in front of everybody. We could go in the building, me and you, let's fight.

Starting point is 00:40:42 Like, I really want to fight with you now. Like, you know, you've been already pushing too much now. So I made him look bad in front of everybody. Right. His workers, girls, everybody, because he thought he was this, like, top dude. I raised him from here to the basement, put him down. Now he comes, Matt, and he goes, and he winds up getting some guys to try to do something to me, to kill me. As now I'm home, I got my friend, White Kid Smitty, he's raised with us.

Starting point is 00:41:15 He loves to gamble. I mean, he's the one that put me in gambling, like, thanks God, no more to X, but he's. He would come and be like, because I always shot good. Since I was young, he would always have all the money and put me to shoot against all the Jamaicans. I'm talking about thousands of dollars in a park outside in the street, $20,000, $30,000 people gambling outside. So he calls me like, yo, come to the park, come to the park, it's man money.

Starting point is 00:41:40 Mind you, I didn't know already until I got my federal case that Master Splinter already got some guys to try to do something to me. So when I pull up on the block that I get to our block, That's our neighborhood where we at. I pull up, I tell one of the managers, my manager, I tell him, do me a favor, get me $2,000 from the work money. So he gives me the money. And where my block is at, is like buildings across the street is a park called St. James Park.

Starting point is 00:42:07 We would cut a hole in the park so we could jump in the park. And when you get to the basketball court, that's where it'd be like all the Jamaicans, everybody gambling, crazy gambling, $30,000, $40,000 on the street on the floor, everybody gambling, all type of dealers, robbers, whoever, got money, they all gambled there. So as I go into the park, Matt, the worker, his manager, wind up going and calling him. Yo, Julito's here, Julito's here. Yo, what he got on?

Starting point is 00:42:38 He got a white T-shirt on and blue jeans. This was like a New York fad. That's like when Jay-Z came out with the blue Yankee hat, you know, the regular New York guys wear the white T-shirt, Air Force Ones, you know, Uptowns, we call them. That was like a New York fad. But he has the same thing I got on Because that's what people would wear It was like a cheap, you know

Starting point is 00:42:57 Regular hat, $10 white t-shirts Some jeans and some nice white sneakers So he calls the guys I guess he must have called the guys up Like yo, Julito's there Who Lito's there now After he says Julito's there, who Lito's there now

Starting point is 00:43:11 The kids come So when they come out the side of the park They wind up seeing a guy With a blue hat, white shirt and sneakers on They start shooting from the corner Like two of them letting go. Boom, boom, boom. But this is him.

Starting point is 00:43:26 This is his manager. Oh, okay. I thought this was him. I thought he called, and they fucking started shooting at him. No, no, no. He wind up going and calls, the manager wind up calling Master Splinter. Yeah, yeah. Julito's here.

Starting point is 00:43:37 So he thought he was so wise that he said, well, I'm going to go to Red Lobston, be under a camera. So if anything happens, I got an alibi. Yeah. Because he thought he knows so much that he didn't really know shit. And when you saw, that's just the things that happen to you. So, you know, I believe with the man upstairs. You know, that's the man with the beard.

Starting point is 00:43:55 That's Jesus. I believe in Jesus. So, calmer, and I also believe in calmer. So the guy called for me to get hit, for me to get shot. But when the guys came, they wound up shooting at him at the manager thinking it was me. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah. Because you're both wearing the same outfit.

Starting point is 00:44:13 Me and the manager wearing the same thing. The manager called Master Splinter and Master Splinter called the shooters up. I understand. When the shooters came, they started shooting. They hit his own manager that he brought from another block. They shot him in the head. Oh, shit. I'm in the park now.

Starting point is 00:44:28 I hear the gunshots ringing off like 15 shots. Boom, boom, boom. I see some guys running through the park. As the guys are running through the park, I'm like, oh, yeah, the shooters is running through the park. I'm like, oh, shit. So I wind up like, I pick up the money that I had on the floor. I put it in my pocket. I run to the block.

Starting point is 00:44:44 As I run up to the block, I look to see who got shot and is his own man. Grimmis. Rest in peace. He was a friend of mine, too. But he's on the floor, like body curling out. You see the hole in his head, the blood leaking out. So after that happens, I'm like, oh, shit, I run upstairs. As I run upstairs, I guess someone come back out, the cops are starting to come.

Starting point is 00:45:09 I'm like, I got to get out of here. So I get out of here and I go to the park. But I'm all the way far where we used to play dice. Everybody left. There's a million cops out there. They got crime stoppers, everything, everything. the next morning I come to the block and you can still see the puddle of blood.

Starting point is 00:45:25 Now, Master Splinter calls me. Oh, they kill Grimmis, they kill Grimmis. But I still don't know nothing. So I'm like, I'm starting to think because I used to go to clubs. I'm like, damn, did this happen probably a problem in the club? Did somebody, you know, I'm like, damn. And for somebody to come into that block,

Starting point is 00:45:46 you got to know. Like, you can't just go into that block and do that. because it's so many of us all over. For you to be able to do a shoot in there and get out of it, it's because you got to be from there. You got to know where to move, where to go at everywhere. So he's crying in me, crying in me,

Starting point is 00:46:00 but crying like a hurt. So I go home, I go get a gun. Now I'm running around with a gun, and I don't want to be around none of my friends because I don't know what's going on. I have a girlfriend of mine's driving me around everywhere with the gun on me. They're like, yo, I don't want to talk. Where you at?

Starting point is 00:46:17 I don't want to talk, nothing. So Master Splinter calls me the next day, and he's like, meet me at the park. So I go to the park with my homeboy B.I. As we go into the park, he's like, oh, we brothers, we got to be together. We got to be together. We got to be together. And I'm like, all of a sudden they killed this guy. And I mean, you want to be together when you just told the guy to go get that for me.

Starting point is 00:46:44 So one of my friends come out that was a close friend of his. Said, you all want to talk to you. Be careful with him. He told me like that, be careful. Matt, thanks God that I didn't know it was him because I wouldn't be here right now telling this story. I'd probably be doing life in prison right now. I found out about it after the feds came to get us.

Starting point is 00:47:05 So now, after that murder happened, I wind up going and catching a seven-year bid for a gambling spot. I went to go gamble, like I told you, I gambled. And I went to go gamble with some Dominicans, and they gave me and they put some fake dice on me and they beat me for like $8,000. So I went back, got a gun,

Starting point is 00:47:24 got three of us, and I went and robbed the whole spot for like $65,000. I robbed each and every one of them. Give me everything now because they have fake dice and one of my friends put me on. He's like, watch how the dice wiggle.

Starting point is 00:47:37 And I didn't know and every time I would shoot the dice, I lose. Every time they shoot the dice, the dice wins. The house was changing the dice on me. You know what I'm saying? Like, is a house when the house would grab the dice.

Starting point is 00:47:49 He'll put the fake dice and he'll throw it at me. Here, it's your time to shoot, Julito. And I'll bet money and I'm like, damn, I never shot this bad in my life. Like, I'm lucky. I've always been a gambler, like a lucky gambler. Because you got guys that gamble that are just losers that love to gamble. Right. But I'm really lucky.

Starting point is 00:48:04 Like, I'll play Fandu without even knowing and win $5,000, $8,000 of Fandu. Like, so I'm like, so when he told me be on point with the dice, my last $2,000, I'm like, bet a thousand. And I'm watching the dice and I'm watching his hands. So I went back, came back and robbed the whole gambling spot. When I robbed the whole gambling spot now, they wind up going and they told them me. They gave me a seven-year bid in the state. So I took the 64,000 from them.

Starting point is 00:48:36 I split it with some of my guys and they came back to tell on me. I was on the run for a little bit. They wind up grabbing me. I copped out to seven years. I went to New York State prison, Rikers Island and all that. As I'm doing my seven years in jail. But you robbed them?

Starting point is 00:48:54 Yeah, yeah, robbed them. Right. But you think they were going to call the cops? You thought what would you think they were going to come back? Really is illegal gambling spot. They're not supposed to call the cops because they robbing other people themselves and going in there to gamble. I understand.

Starting point is 00:49:08 I'm just shocked that you're shocked if they called. They selling guys fake drugs. I really would think that they're not. They wouldn't call the cops. Like, the street code and them legal gap, like, if I rob the casino, then it's different. Like, Robert De Niro and whatever in heat or Ocean 11, but this is an illegal gambling spot. Like, you can't gamble in New York City in a basement. Right.

Starting point is 00:49:27 So they went and they called the cops on me. As they called the cops on me, I get locked up. This is my first time doing time. They give me seven years. I cop out to the seven years. Are you already a felon? No. Oh, so this is a felony charge.

Starting point is 00:49:41 This was a felony charge. My first felony. I had 142 counts of robbery, and I had about 32 attempt murders because they got hit with guns and all that. Right. So they charged me with all that. I never had a bid in my life. This is my first bid. They gave me seven years. I mean, I've been to jail like to Rikers Island, but I never went to the next level. Now you go to, you know, to the state, the prison. Like when you're in the feds, how you're in the detention, then you go to McKean, Big Sandy, whatever. How much time do you do on seven years? Seven years. I do six because it's violent.

Starting point is 00:50:12 Okay. Because there's a flat bid. Like, you know, sometimes you get like a three to seven. Out of that three years, you could do three. The board hits you. You do two more years. Then you come out. But I had a flat bid.

Starting point is 00:50:22 Flat seven, you do six. So as I'm doing my time, I still don't know that this guy sent for this to happen to me. Now he's there. I got a girl that's coming up to see me in prison. He's like, yo, come get her. Don't worry. I'm going to give her money.

Starting point is 00:50:39 The next thing you know, she stops coming to see me. it's because he already injected her. He's already eating up a brain. She don't come see me no more. I'm like, damn, what's going on? Like, and I didn't know this until I got to the feds, but I would call him and he wouldn't pick up the phone for me. He wouldn't pick up the phone for me from the jail.

Starting point is 00:51:00 Or I got you, I got you later. I'm like, bro, I need this. I need this. Oh, I got you, I got you. He was beating around the bush from me. I still don't know that he's the one that sent for me. Now when I'm doing my seven years, I got 43 months in state and state.

Starting point is 00:51:11 state prison. The fence came and snatched me for an indictment now. So I'm like, I'm in the box. I got caught with, I got caught with a knife and some drugs. When I get caught with a knife and drugs, somebody told on me, they bring me to the box, S-HU, that special housing unit. That's like, you know, the box. The shoe, yeah. The shoe. So after I go to the shoe, I'm in the shoe, I got like maybe they give me 90 days, a shoot time. I got maybe like a week. I got maybe like a, a, week left. So I'm happy or I'm getting out to shoot. I'm going to a new jail. They packed me up. Diaz, that's my last name. Pack up. I'm like, for what? You're going to court? I'm like, I'm going to court for what? When I find out I'm going to court now, they wind up bringing me down

Starting point is 00:51:57 to court. But when they bring me down from the state, they bring you to a certain jail that's called Downstate. Downstate is where they prepare you to go to your prison. So as I'm there, I see two U.S. Marshal's coming. When I see them walk into two U.S. Marshals, I'm like, damn, whoever they come in to get is in big-ass trouble because that's the feds. I know that. And these dudes is getting closer and closer and closer

Starting point is 00:52:19 to me. So they're like, somebody behind you? Yeah, I'm like, that's what I'm looking at. Let me get out of your way. There's a dude actually behind me. When I go to move over, I'm thinking, oh, they're coming to get him because it's only me and him. I don't got no feds.

Starting point is 00:52:32 He shows me a picture when I was like 16 years old. He's like, is this you? I said, I think so. He's like, what's your name? I'm like, Angel Diaz. What's your day to birth? He asked me my day to birth. He's like, look, talking about two, one little Spanish guy

Starting point is 00:52:46 and the big, like, six, seven, dude, white dude, blue eyes, big, blonde. Look like Goldberg. The rest of the gold bird, he tells me, don't ask me no questions. We're just here to come get you. So everybody's looking at me. They take the handcuffs. I got off the stake.

Starting point is 00:53:03 They put their handcuffs on me. They shackle me up. They got a big vest on with a taser, with a taser, with like real bunch of clips. The back of them says U.S. Marshal. Now I'm like, oh shit, what's going on now? Next thing I know, they bring me all the way down. When they bring me, they go, go get the gun.

Starting point is 00:53:21 He tells his partner, you know what? They got to wait like in the area to get the gun, the vegetable area. So they get their guns. I'm cuffed already. He walks me out. He puts the gun on them. The other one got like a machine gun on them.

Starting point is 00:53:31 They open the trunk. They put it in. They put me in a charger. I'm like, is this like, you know, at that, I'm like, are they kidnapping me? What's going on? I didn't even, in my mind, didn't think that the feds was on us. They're doing like from New York, upstate New York to downtown to MDC, Brooklyn, to MCC Brooklyn. MCC is the jail. They come flying, doing like 140. I'm like, oh my God, they're going to crash this car. I don't know what's going on.

Starting point is 00:54:00 As soon as I get there, they bring me in a tunnel. The feds is like a tunnel. I go, I feel like the car going to elevate and spin around and go up. I'm like, what is this, an elevator? When I come out, I used to watch the show U.S. Marshals. I see the big guy from U.S. Marshals, the girl, and I'm like, yo, why I'm in here? They're like, don't ask us no questions. We're just here to come get you, fingerprint yourself,

Starting point is 00:54:26 so you can get a sandwich and you can go eat. So they put on a brown, they put on this brown jump on me first because that's reception. The next day I go to court. when I go to court the next day, I'm not in the indictment. They brought me down for me to go and rat on Master Splinter. Right. After they want me to rat on Master Splinter, I'm like,

Starting point is 00:54:48 yo, I don't got nothing to do there. Like, you sure you don't want to, you don't got nothing to do? I'm going to take something. You see that murder that happened, the lawyer? That murder right there was him trying to kill you. They come and they show me the pictures of his manager, grimace with the head shot, drooling his mouth, everything. Now they're trying to convince me.

Starting point is 00:55:05 tell. But that don't come in my DNA. Nobody in my family has ever told my mom never told my dad never told in his life. I don't know what selling is. And for the record, my paperwork is clear. Tell us when you help out and you can go home. He can go home. I have my sentence in minutes. Can we go home? Let's go home. So he tells me like, look, you got to tell me this, this, you don't got nothing to do it. He's like, if you don't tell, we just brought you down to the state right now so you could let us know what he did. And look, this is the one that tried to kill you. So I'm like, oh shit, but I'm like, I don't know nothing about him because I've been in jail for 43 months. And even if you try to kill me or not, man, I'm not telling.

Starting point is 00:55:44 That's not in my DNA. I would never tell. So I wind up saying quiet. I didn't tell. They're like, if you don't tell, we're going to supersede you in this case. So the next thing I know, the next day the lawyer came and got me, I was on the indictment. When I was on the indictment, I was charged with two accounts. I was charged that I possessed pound quantities.

Starting point is 00:56:05 of trees in the vacancy of our area that we was at and I distributed wheat I distributed trees all over the Bronx area and then they charged me with a 924C double I that I had I had guns to protect my drug organization that's a serious charge that's the more said that they had me the trees

Starting point is 00:56:27 yeah the trees wasn't really nothing no big deal and all my records since I was 12 years old if you look at my rap sheet I got caught with a million times the trees like all my life. So they charged me with a 924 seat protecting, had guns, but I never got caught with no gun. This is when I knew the feds was crazy.

Starting point is 00:56:44 I'm like, how can they charge me? I was saying that I. They just need somebody to say they saw you with it. Exactly. So now they had murders on the case. Now when I get the case, they like, Grima Santiago got killed by this person, this person. So they're like, yeah, he tried to kill you.

Starting point is 00:56:59 Master Splinter try to kill you. So now as we're doing our bid, I'm in there. I'm a little more active than them in jail. Like, remember, I told you, I've been doing jail since I was young. So there was a lot of guys that I was raised with now that are doing 40 years, 50 years. They're from Brooklyn. They got their face and murder.

Starting point is 00:57:16 They're under conspiracy for this, that. So in the jail, I was always good because in the jail, I always wiggled and sliggled. Like, I worked in the kitchen. I had female officers that brought me phones. I always moved around the system, like, smooth. And I always never got, if I got caught up, I would never tell her nobody. That was just always my thing. I call my mom's up

Starting point is 00:57:36 and I tell my mom's Mom, they're offering me 10 years My mom's never encouraged me Like, my son, they try to kill you Or my brothers or whatever like, oh, tell, tell, tell My mom said, don't worry, son, They offering you 10 years, 120 months because you know the fed's offered you like that, 120 months.

Starting point is 00:57:54 I didn't even know what 120 months was first. First they offered me 180 months. I didn't even know what that was until I got back to my cell and I started putting the little balls together in 12. And when I started circling it, circling it, 12, 12, 12, I was already past 10 years. I was going on 18 years.

Starting point is 00:58:11 I'm like, what the hell for, but they try to put that pressure on me to tell. So as I didn't tell her nothing, I wind up telling them I'm going to trial. When I tell them I'm going to trial because I'm used to in the state, you know, you could play with them. I'm going to try to bluff them. They lower the bid or censors, whatever. But the feds really don't play like that. The feds, when they got you, they're going to smoke your ass.

Starting point is 00:58:32 You go to trial. So he told me they offered you 120 months. I'm like, I'm not going to take that yet. So I said, look, they're like, if you go to trial, then you're going to get this time. So as I went back and they started getting informants that were breaking up the case, the informants really didn't talk about me a lot. So basically, my account was the trees and the 924. Because you've been gone so long?

Starting point is 00:58:55 But I've been gone so long. And I was doing state time when they got me. And when the conspiracy really happened, it went back to. 2002. You see, now when I was in jail during my 43 months, a murder happened. The kid got caught. When the feds actually did the federal investigation, I was already in jail. Yeah, but your name was still mentioned. I just got implicated because they implicated me on it. So now I have my boy, Ralphie. We went to a nightclub together. He went, we went to a nightclub, and he shot somebody in a nightclub. If you sleep hot at night, you know how disruptive that can be.

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Starting point is 01:00:59 Now you got your violation from your first Fed case, and now you have this new indictment right now. So they grabbed all of us. So as I was there, when I started finding out, I wind up meeting one of the shooters, Matt, that he sent, Master Splinter sent. Master Splinter this whole time, he didn't tell yet.

Starting point is 01:01:20 You're going to see where the name comes at. Now he don't tell, he's trying to tell people, cop out, cop out, because he thinks it's the state. He don't know that when you're in the feds, it all goes by a fence level. Whatever the crime is, they charge us with an A1B. So you know that holds a certain category and drugs and this, that. I'm meeting guys that are like, yo, y'all got some hell of a nuts. Guys that are like Bernie Madoff.

Starting point is 01:01:43 Guys that are doing scams for 12 meetings. Like, bro, y'all outside, like Western cowboys out there. And the money's crazy. Like, I'm meeting all type of Mexicans. I'm meeting people that are down with El Chapo in there, all types of guys. So I'm always stand up. I always dealt with the Italians.

Starting point is 01:02:03 Like I used to work in the kitchen. So in the kitchen, you know, when you work in the kitchen, I was in there with a bunch of well-known Italian guys that passed away. You know, rest in peace, my man, T.G. That was the father from mob wives, the father. So they would be like, get me my stuff. So I would go in the kitchen and I would steal everything out of the kitchen and sell it to them. And they would put cold money in my account, 500.

Starting point is 01:02:27 100, 705, 107. I'm like, oh shit, shit, this fair shit is different than the state, you know. The state is like everybody's basically poor, but the feds, now you're meeting everybody here, us from all over. You're meeting guys from Washington, white guys that are millionaires that scam from California, Texas, Florida, all over. So the good thing I had, I got along with everybody. And you know how that Fed thing goes is different cars.

Starting point is 01:02:51 But I worked in the kitchen so everybody dealt with me because everybody wants mozzarella cheese or they want onions, they want steak, they want. extra chicken. So I used to do all this stuff. That's how I got cool with the guys. So now, as I'm ready to get my time now that my mom tells me, I'm like, well, all right, I'm going to have to take the 10. They come to me with 10.

Starting point is 01:03:14 But now this whole time they say, all right, you're going to take 10 years, but we want you to implicate Master Splint. I said, I'm not implicating nobody. Why would I take the 10 and implicate them? Yeah, I said, I'm going to cop out, but I'm coping out to me, Angel Diaz I controlled quantities of trees

Starting point is 01:03:32 in the vacancy or whatever and I distributed me I'm not saying me and Matt did nothing together I said that's not coping out so they went back they second called me I wind up coping out to 10 years Matt

Starting point is 01:03:44 when I cop out to 10 years but before that all my co-defendants was thinking once Julito finds out that Master Spinner try to kill him he's going to tell that's a valid thing to tell It ain't no such thing that's valid telling. Once you tell you, no good.

Starting point is 01:04:00 And that's not even, I never knew nobody that ever told. My dad had been doing time since I was three years old, all the way to maybe four years ago, five years ago. So I tell my mom, but my mom encouraged me. My main thing was losing my mom when I was doing my bid because my mom at that time was, you know, having rough times of her life. So I said, you know what?

Starting point is 01:04:19 I'm going to take the 10. I'm the first one that copped out to 120 months. Once they told me 120 months, a guy told me, he said, don't play with these guys. They're going to come one time low, and the next thing you know, they're going to shoot your head off. And then when I asked my lawyer, they're like, look, if you want to go to trial, they want on the 924C, they want life, and on the drugs, they want 40. The lawyer's like, you got a good chance of beating it, but they're going to smoke you on one of them. So you're going to wait 12, 13 years anyway to get an appeal anyway. Your co-defendants are going to, they're going to be five of your co-defendants.

Starting point is 01:04:54 They're going to smoke me anyway. Yeah, they're going, yeah. So I wind up going, man. I didn't care about nobody because nobody said nothing to me. I didn't tell on nobody. I wind up snatching my time. Now when I snatch my time, my brother Ralphie, he winds up snatching 10 years. Right?

Starting point is 01:05:11 Now we start all copping out to 10, 10, 10, 10. Some of them got, there was a girl on my case that never got a charge of her life. She copped out six years. We're all copping out. Master Splinter now thought, because he never been really in jail and never done jail time. If everybody cops out now, I'm going to get the less time. He don't know that the feds, if you're the head of the indictment, they want you.

Starting point is 01:05:35 Especially if you send somebody to kill somebody, they want you. So he winds up going after we all copped out, now he started trying to act like acts the Spanish guys, like the ones that they bring from Mexico and the Colombians. you know they all do this like Route 35. You know what a Route 35 is, right? Yeah. I'm glad you know that, Matt, and I'm impressed with that because I've been on podcasts and they don't know what a Route 35 is.

Starting point is 01:06:03 Okay. So you can know. Now what he did was he's trying to ask the guys like, yo, how could I help myself? But now he's running around guys that they brought from Mexico that are actually cooperating with the government, trying to find out he had some money. He spent all his money on lawyers because he's like, Now he's, oh my God, it's getting the heat is getting to me.

Starting point is 01:06:22 All my co-defendants are copping out. He goes to a fatical hearing. When he goes to a fatical hearing, Grandpa Master Splinter, now this is why he got the title, cooperated against him. The one that put him on, the one that his brother begged. So this is why he got that title now. He wind up cooperating,

Starting point is 01:06:41 talking about me that I used to work for him. He used to put guns at my mother's house when I was young. He told everything. Basically, he said, I don't got nothing to do with the murders that Master Splinter did. All I did was sell drugs all my life. You could check my record. So they checked his record. He never had no violence.

Starting point is 01:06:59 They used him as a cooperating witness. One of the shooters that did a murder wind up going and cooperating against him saying he's the one that sent me to shoot these people and kill them. Right? He'd already copped out. So now he goes thinking he's. smart. Every time we used to go to the judge, you know how the judge tells you. How you doing, Mr. Diaz? Is everything all right with you? Yes, Your Honor. I'm good. Thank you for asking. How you doing? I'm all right, Your Honor. That was me. So he thought he had a relationship with the judge.

Starting point is 01:07:36 He winds up coping out to an open plea, man. He didn't go to trial. So you know, when you come out to an open plea is basically, they can give you whatever they want. They can give you whatever they want, but he didn't know that the district attorney the whole time, and I had a lawyer that was a good lawyer. I got lucky. They gave me a paper showing me, like all the people that was in the fatical hearing on him. He went to a fatical hearing.

Starting point is 01:08:01 The fatical hearing? Do you see such and such, Master Splinter there? Yeah, he's right there. Master Splinter was the one that, yeah, he's the one that did. I just got, I'm just with the fadding the powder, but he's the one that sent whatever, whatever. So now when he started seeing that, So he, real quick, so he's taking an open plea, but he knows that the shooter already is going to cooperate against them.

Starting point is 01:08:25 He knew already that the shooter was cooperating. He didn't know what the cooperating was. So he went to the fatical hearing, and then he was like, no, he's the one that, I did the shooting, but he's the one that sent me. And he still took an open plea. So he took an open plea because they gave him 20 to life, but he's thinking 20. He's thinking 20 to life. I don't got no charge. I never been locked up.

Starting point is 01:08:49 All my co-defendants got locked up. He winds up going. And they gave him three life sentences. Were there three murders? Yeah, there was three murders. And the drugs, they gave them each murder life life. And for the drugs, because they had, while I was locked up, they were selling to undercovers that were coming informants.

Starting point is 01:09:09 Right. Half a brick. There's that. They were selling drugs to them. And there's nothing he can do because everybody. else has already played guilty. Everybody played guilty. But he thought by him being the last man standing,

Starting point is 01:09:20 like you took 10, you took 10, you took 10, they're going to give me 20. After he tried every avenue he tried, he went to the Fatikovranes. He seen he was dead. Now he wanted to cooperate before he got to the open pleads. It's too late. But they didn't want him.

Starting point is 01:09:33 They said, bro, you could tell us about nothing. So as he cops out now, he gets three life sentences. When he gets the three life sentences, he winds up coming. and he went on Wade's podcast too. He winds up coming and he says he goes to Coleman. Okay, which one? Coleman.

Starting point is 01:09:56 The Penn? He goes to Coleman Pin because in Coleman Pin, you have a lot of Puerto Rican guys over there in Coleman Pin because they all go to Puerto Rico to stay here. And his family's from Florida. So while he's in the Penn with the Three Life Censes, he's trying to move his muscle around. Like, oh, I got three life senses.

Starting point is 01:10:15 He's trying to act tough, but he's never been tough. Like I told you, I've been beating him up since we were seven years old. Eight years old, always beating him up. He always had a patch in his eye. Like, I know him all my life. Like, we're the ones that made him tough. Like, actually, the respect he got was because me and my boy, my brother, Ralfi, rest in peace. As he's over there, he don't know that I'm in the system already.

Starting point is 01:10:37 I'm in the Fed system. He's trying to correspond with me. This is, he didn't tell on the case. Yeah. But I don't want to speak to you. because I know what he did. So when I tell him that I'm going to cop out, they moved me from MDC, Brooklyn.

Starting point is 01:10:49 They moved me to MCC. That's the one in Manhattan. Because you have to cop out there because that's Southern District. That's where I'm from. I got to cop out there and they'll bring me back so they don't keep bringing me back and forth to court

Starting point is 01:11:00 because it's easy. You know, the traffic coming over the bridge and all that. I run into him. When I run into him, I'm ready to do something to him. His brother's there with me. His older brother. I gave his older brother some respect

Starting point is 01:11:15 because of the fact, Matt, that when I was young, he was always cool with my brother. He always took me to, you know, fright fest when I was younger. You know, my dad was never around. He used to always be cool with me. So he started crying to me like,

Starting point is 01:11:29 yo, please, Julito, don't do nothing to him if you do something to him. My family, I'm not going to do nothing to you. Like, you're going to squash us in here. Like, you have everybody in here. So he begged me, beg me so much and I promise him, look, I'm not going to do nothing to him.

Starting point is 01:11:43 Now he's crying and me telling me, yo, it wasn't me. It was Grandpa Master Splinter that sent to kill you. That wasn't like that. We just try to do that to scare you and this, that, this, that. I got a knife from me. I'm looking at his eyes. I'm ready to stab him.

Starting point is 01:12:00 No disrespect. I'm saying the truth. Now, something got into me. I said, you know what? I'm going to do it like this, Bob. If you did do that, the man upstairs is going to deal with you. And if you didn't have nothing to do with it, may I set you free.

Starting point is 01:12:15 You know what I'm saying? I don't wish nobody in jail. I left him alone. Now as he gets the three life sentences, mind you, I've been to a couple jails. Like I told you, I get in, I fight for the car, I get caught up doing this. I got, I had a ticket in a jail.

Starting point is 01:12:30 I got caught with like maybe seven, seven, 800 books of stamps. They told on me, I had like a New York ticket, number one ticket in the jail, Allenwood, matter of fact, medium. They kicked me out of there. I've been to rape.

Starting point is 01:12:41 Brooke. I've been to Big Sandy. I've been to Allenwood and I came home from McKeon. All spots paperwork clear. So now he comes now. Can't be a good in it, man. Can you just? Well, he just. Now he comes now, Matt, and he tells he goes and goes to FCI, I mean to the pen in Coleman. He gets knocked out in Coleman. When he gets knocked out in Coleman, I guess they knocked them out so bad. When he fell, he fell on his foot, went back and he tore like his knee a little bit. So while he's in the box, he already got knocked out. He got life to do.

Starting point is 01:13:16 Now he starts thinking. He calls the district attorney. He does a route 35. He goes on my brother, Ralfi, and tells the district attorney I know about a murder. Does he know, I mean, is this a real murder? It's a murder. It's a murder. He's putting it on a property.

Starting point is 01:13:34 No, it was a murder that they tried to mention in the beginning. Ralphie's cousin was one of the ones that ratted that said he's, the one that sent me to shoot. But he didn't go and involve the murder because he didn't want to put himself in that to have two murders. Right. So they looked at it like, ah, they're not listening to him. So Ralphie was good.

Starting point is 01:13:55 Ralphie's like, yo, I'm not going back to jail. When I get out of here, I'm going to Florida to Fort Lauderd Day. I'm getting out the way, whatever, whatever. So I guess he said the whole thing. He winds up telling him a friend of mine's named B.I. B.I. is the one right now in Fort Dix with Puff Daddy. He's the one that fed the whole jail. It came out on the Joe Bunton podcast and everything.

Starting point is 01:14:17 So he winds up going and telling him on the murder on Ralphie. So now Ralphie's with me in Allenwood, medium. He has four days to go, no, he has four days to go home. I have a case manager that's mad cool with me, bringing me everything in there. She calls me, she's like, yo, your brother's going home this day. Don't tell him, tell him, but I didn't say nothing to his case manager is going to tell him he's in a different unit. I tell him two days later his case manager calls him and tell him, he went home to 16th.

Starting point is 01:14:46 It was already the 12th. No, the 13th it was. They call him back. When they call them back, you know, like people on MDC. Brooklyn, they're coming up to the jail. Like, you always with your co-defendant, Master Splinter. I'm like, what is he doing down there? He said he got bit by Iraq.

Starting point is 01:15:03 That he's down there for a lawsuit. This is all on PACEA, public, you know, is all public record. When you check on Pacer, he tried to. I put an appeal in. It says denied. It says the date and everything he got denied. What he was doing down there was he was actually cooperating with the government.

Starting point is 01:15:19 Yeah. So when he cooperated with the government, my friend B.I. was doing already a sentence for 15 years from Pennsylvania. So what they did was they matched the case. They put them together. They called my boy Ralph Fied down and they charged both for them with murder. When they get charged with murder, he got the route 35. They let him out.

Starting point is 01:15:42 They let the, they let Master Splinter out. With three life sentences? With three life sentences, he came out because the, because the kid, B.I. It was a well-known blood member, influenced you. So you know how it is like with the Gotti and the, and the Sammy the bull. If you got influence to make him kill all these people, they want him more. They really want it, my boy. I'm saying usually they'll reduce the sentence, but to actually let him go.

Starting point is 01:16:07 How long have you been locked up at that point? He did. He did already 12 years at that point. Oh, okay, that's all. Well, that's different. The way you're saying, it made me think. No, no, they don't let him right to go. Like, he already did.

Starting point is 01:16:16 Yeah. I already came out from doing my 10. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. But after I did my 120 months, then. I didn't know that. I thought this was, like, within a year or so. No, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 01:16:25 No, no. No, no. No, because what happened was he's doing his time. As I did my whole time, I'm already coming, you know, from 10 years. You do about eight. I did, like, nine because I had a state case. They brought me from the state from my seven from the robbery, from the gambling spot.

Starting point is 01:16:38 So now with him in the length of 10 years That we already about to come home That's when he did that to my boy Ralphie But my boy Ralphie passed away in MDC for lupus He had lupus And I guess they could have brought him back But he already knew he was gonna They was off him 22 years

Starting point is 01:16:55 He'd been doing time all his life That he basically like let himself die Like you know I'm not going I'm not calling the nurse or nothing And the next day he woke up he was dead But master splinter wind up going And doing the route 35 on my boy B.I.

Starting point is 01:17:10 And on Ralphie, he told on them about the murder. When he gets out, he didn't go back to the old neighborhood. No, when he gets out, he gets knocked out in the old neighborhood. I have the clip for you, too, on my phone. You can see him get knocked out. And then after he gets knocked out, he tries to go to one of my older co-defendants.

Starting point is 01:17:31 I got the video as well and tells one of my co-defendants, yo, if it was you in that situation where you would have done, So my co-defendant asked him in Spanish. Let me ask you something now. If Ralphie was double-all, we call him Ralphie Reyes. He said, rest in peace, he said, if Ralphie Reyes was alive and you would have had to go sit on him, would you have went and testified against him? He's like, of course.

Starting point is 01:17:55 Of course, you know these people don't play. He's like, it's easier said than done when you're getting 10 years. Because he's real like a, he could be like a good, he's a good manipulator. Yeah. He knows how to manipulate. Oh, if it was y'all facing 30 years, he's like, I got God. in here that got 50 years, but he never went after they took them

Starting point is 01:18:12 from Coleman, they send them to Queens to Gio. Gio for us is like a cheesecake factory. That's where they bring all a known rats stay there. Everybody's rat in there, so it's not nothing. You know, like if you're MDC, Brooklyn, you're a rat, they run you out the house, or they get you out the house.

Starting point is 01:18:28 In Gio, that's like the cheesecake factory. That's what we call that in New York City. That's where they have all the known rats. Like the guys that rat it on Chapo, the two twins, they go over there, outposts, they go over there, any known rat from Chicago, gang member, whoever, they all go over there to the Cheesecake Factory. They wear their regular clothes.

Starting point is 01:18:46 They get like special dinners. They all known rats. They don't put them in population. When you look them up, they don't even come out in the system. No, I think that's where Borrello, Gene Barillo and. All right. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know who's this friend that you mentioned, that Gene Borrello?

Starting point is 01:19:00 Yeah. Gene Barrello, that's where him and Gene Borrello was at together. And Gene Barrello was the one that put him on to come out with a book called Trust in betrayal. Gene Barrello was the one that put him on, I think, with true crime with Wade. Okay. He got on Wade's show.

Starting point is 01:19:16 And if you see Wade's show, a person like you that knows that been in a situation, you're like, wow, it's unbelievable. Are you going to do Wade? I got to do Wade. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever talked to him? I spoke to Wade. I was supposed to do him now because I came over here, but he left on the 25th,

Starting point is 01:19:32 but then he got me in contact with you and told me that you was going, you was somewhere with your wife somewhere. then you had to leave and that's how I got in contact with Chukas of Wade but I told Wade I'm gonna do it because he went on Wade's show Gene Borrello was there with him him and Gene Borrello were like

Starting point is 01:19:45 sit side by side together they slept in the same dorm that Jane Borrello came out and did like a little documentary on him like oh this is my boy Levine from the Bronx he was this big drug dealer he was all this and he had a little hype

Starting point is 01:19:59 so I came out and his whole buzz fell because I was in jail with guys that are doing 300 years 92 years, five life sentences that I talk to them at this day and I take care of them

Starting point is 01:20:11 to this day as I'm here doing this show with you. So I have a question. What happened with Master Splinter? Like, well, did he stay in that neighborhood?

Starting point is 01:20:21 I know, Master Sinter didn't stay in the neighborhood. What he did was because I told you he's real convincing he was coming around his car calling people, yo, trying to feel people out.

Starting point is 01:20:30 He sent his brother, his sister to us. As I started doing my podcast, I did a podcast When I first came home, that was called FTC, NYC, for the culture, New York City. Because I got involved in with a lot of the reggaeton artists like Daddy Yankees. So me and my nephew, Adam H.D., we was doing something. I invited his brother and his sister to come to the block.

Starting point is 01:20:49 The brother came out was like, yo, nothing's going to happen to me or nothing. I said, no, you good, bro. Honest the truth. All my co-defendants was out there because we all started coming home like two months, three months, two months, all period of time. Yeah, we all took 10 years. Yeah, we all took 10 years. but I copped out, but I had still a state time. Then I caught a cutting in the state in New York.

Starting point is 01:21:09 So as I cut, I caught that cut and I had to do a year and a half. Then I went to the feds. I lost my goods. What's a cutting? A cutting. A cutting. A cutting. I cut somebody.

Starting point is 01:21:17 We call it cutting in New York. You could stab somebody and you could cut somebody. He's like, it happens. Like, you see in the feds, you see the feds, everybody gets stabbed because you can have, but in the state, you can't really have no knives and none of that because they don't give you no knives. But you get scalples over there. You know the scalpel don't ring and none of that. So I'm walking around with a scalpel.

Starting point is 01:21:35 Some guys tried to steal from my locker. I got them early in the morning. I cut them like first, then going to child. They ratted on me. I went to go and I got locked up. And I wound up getting a year and a half for that. Horrible. So when I finished my state time, mind you, when I was in the state,

Starting point is 01:21:51 they pulled me down to the feds. But I was on a writ. A writ, you know what that means that my time is running idle. It don't cop out here. So I had to cop out in the feds quick. That's why I copped out quick. I got my sentence in minutes. It's my pleament, it's my judge of commitment.

Starting point is 01:22:05 I copped out quick. When I went back to the state, I had to go back to the state to finish my time, but as I finished my time in the state, once my time was up in the state, I had to go do a year county for the cutting, but a stabbing, but it was a cutting, it wasn't a stabbing, I cut some guy. And a face, so as I cut them, now I did a year and a half there.

Starting point is 01:22:23 Once my time was up, now I gotta go to the feds to finish my time. So I finished my time in the county and I went to the feds. And as I went to the feds, I got back to the feds and then he wind up going and try to come around the neighborhood to feel everybody. So I said, look, I don't want you to think

Starting point is 01:22:43 that I got something personal with him. It's not only with me because he tried to kill me and he ratted on my brother Ralphie, basically because Ralphie would have been home if he would never told him Ralphie on that murder. So I had all my court offense be like, yo, he's a piece of shit, nobody want him, he's no good, because he didn't treat nobody good anyway.

Starting point is 01:23:00 You know what I'm saying? So they all told his brother he didn't want him, I guess his brother went back to him. And then my friend, B.I., I'm in contact with him. He told me, oh, that faggots about to come home anyway because I already copped out to 20s. They gave him 32 years. He's like, yo, I already copped out to 32 years

Starting point is 01:23:16 so that faggid should be around there. Well, he's going to try to be around there. So he's try to feel everybody's blood. Nobody gave him no thing. Then my co-defendant recorded him because his brother was like, yo, he wants to talk to. I said, yo, me and him don't got nothing to talk about. We're not friends no more.

Starting point is 01:23:32 he go his way, I go my way. So my other friend, my other co-defendant, my co-defendant, G, just wind up speaking to him on the phone. I have it there. They got his brother's face on the phone, on the iPhone, and him on the bottom. As he's talking to my friend, his girlfriend is in the passenger seat recording it.

Starting point is 01:23:50 And he asks, I'm like, let me ask you, son. If double R would have went to trial, you would have sat on him? He said, yeah, I would have sat on him. So he's like, but y'all could say that, then he asked him what you would have did. And my co-defendant G said, if it was me, I would have took the life. He's like, it's easiest son than then when you're not in that situation. I got guys in here that got 30 years that wish they could tell to get home.

Starting point is 01:24:15 I said, bro, I know a million guys that I was in jail with that, that are stone cold killers that know about million killers, and they never told on nobody. He did that. And then after he did that, I guess he must have went to a bar somewhere and had a couple shots and got brave and came to the neighborhood. and they knocked them out but I'm talking about the ugliest knockout ever

Starting point is 01:24:35 man I'm gonna show you when it's done knocked them out ugly knocked them out it's called the chopped cheese knockout they knocked them out and they woke him up with a chopped cheese the kid knocked them out with the right hand and had a sandwich in his hand through it the sandwich in his face and he got up like okay so

Starting point is 01:24:51 so what so what happened to him ultimately so ultimately right now he's doing podcasts no he's not doing no podcast because he tried to lie to everybody and get fake paperwork. And as he's getting fake paperwork, Gene Barrello, he did a book with that author, Roman. He'd be writing for the Italian, something, Roman, something.

Starting point is 01:25:14 Like, I'm the author of my book. I'm sorry for that, too. I've got to send you my book. I was just, like, rushing over here. But I'm the author of my book, Angel Diaz. He had somebody else write his book up. It's called The Betrayal, The Trust and Betrayal. So he wrote that book through

Starting point is 01:25:30 Like he'd be writing for Italians But he writes for a lot of rap Or a lot of rat Italians Roman something The Roman something guy even called He even lied and put My friend Nikki Yang On his forwarding of the book

Starting point is 01:25:43 And said my friend Nikki Yang wrote it but Nikki Yang never wrote his forwarding Because Nikki Jam That's the Spanish reggathon guy He never even promoted his book And when I spoke to him He was like bro, that guy's a liar.

Starting point is 01:25:58 He came to see me. I know him for years. You know, they rapists from Puerto Rico. They don't know, like, the game of what's going on. He said, I invited him to my house because I know him. As soon as he got to my house, he asked me for $10,000. And I told him, bro, I don't got that for you. So he wind up going.

Starting point is 01:26:16 He met Gene Borrello. Gene Barrello tried to big him up, help him get that book. And I guess they introduced him to Wade. So he went on Wade's podcast and said, That's some straight bullshit. That the government, the government had him, but they didn't need him. Like a whole bunch of shit that's... So I guess when everybody's seen that podcast, it dropped the thumb on him.

Starting point is 01:26:41 Now he tried to get on a lot of podcasts he's seen me on, and people don't want him. What are you doing now? So now what I'm doing now is I have a movement called, Ain't No Glory in the Street Story. I got a book coming out. I'm going to start writing my next book. book next month that's called Carmen's son is giving the flowers to my mom you know for raising six of us for my brothers coming up how we went through everything we went through I have one of my brothers air condition and refrigeration I have another brother of mine that sells time shares I got my sister

Starting point is 01:27:15 she's a financial advisor and you know my next book is basically all about my mom right now I'm giving a message to the kids basically my stories basically about ain't really no friends friends in this. You don't know you got a friend. If you're doing crime, you know is your friend when he takes life and he don't tell on you. Then you can say that's my friend. But until then, if you're in the street, you don't know who's your friend when you're in the street. Ain't really no friends in the street. You don't have, didn't you already write a book? Yeah, I already got, write a book. So this is your second? This is going to be my second book. Now, I got my first book. It's

Starting point is 01:27:46 called the United States of America versus Julito. It's basically all about the story that I just told you. Hey, you guys. I appreciate you watching. Do you be a favorite. Hit the subscribe button hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. Also, we are going to leave all of Julito's links in the description box, but the main one that he wants you to hit is Instagram. So we're going to leave that link. And we'll leave the other ones too. You click there, go there, follow him. Also, his book is available on Amazon. Is it Sullivan? Is it Sullivan? Yeah, it's available. And so will. His new book will be available soon too. And we're going to try and convince him to do an audible. So go there, click there. You can buy the book. Leave a comment in the

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