Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Diddy Insider Leaks Exclusive Files | Kim Porter’s Diary Uncovered

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Diddy Insider Leaks Exclusive Files | Kim Porter’s Diary Uncovered

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August 1st. He would record a lot of prominent people and keep these recordings in a safe. She goes to his house, gets some stuff from the safe, and at that point, she says, if anything happens to her, the book will be released along with the tapes. But what I got for you today, my friend, you're getting a treat here. You're getting a scoop that nobody has gotten. I mentioned this on one reel, and it was my most played reel on my entire Instagram. Over a hundred and something thousand plays, which for me is pretty big. Like, it's a lot more than normal.

I'll kind of precurs this. So I'm not going to give the names of how I come into contact with this book. But anybody that knows anything. about the ditty situation he had a long time girlfriend kim porter now he had a few kids with her they had a long running relationship and then they did separate now it's been long rumored that she was writing like a diary i don't necessarily know if i would call it a book but a diary of events that took place throughout their relationship and then she mysteriously passed away due to pneumonia.

As I was saying, it's been long rumored that she was writing a tell-all book or at least a memoir detailing her tumultuous life with P. Diddy and some of his extracurricular activities. I read it. I was actually out of town, so I took it with me and I'm reading it on the plane. And it's not a lot, which tends to put a little bit of

validity towards it was like her memoirs it wasn't actually a full-blown book this is not a you know 300 page book by any means it more or less looked like a diary that was kind of put together in you know sequential and it was about 45 pages long and I read it and I'm just like wow and now I grew up he diddy was hot when I grew up like bad boy was hot you know Tupac I mean those two were the the top in the game you know Christopher Wallace Biggie small was Tupac. So Puff Daddy was in the limelight everywhere, you know, and he, you know, stayed there for a good deal of time. And then he branched out and done other things with Surrock and Sean John. So it's not somebody that I was completely, you know,

unaware of. But the things that were talked about in that book, I was just like, there's no way. There's no way he done all this. And we're going to talk about a few things in there because now, like the more time has went by, I read this book in April. Yeah. But the, the, the um hold on let's see the southern district of new york would beg to differ yeah wow yeah that that that diary that you read is looking more and more credible now yes it definitely is more and more credible and this is just one woman's accounts as as we'll go through when we get into the you know all the the charges against them there's multiple women multiple crimes There's multiple things that's going on that he's getting charged with very serious stuff.

Uh, and this is just one account, one lady. Now, she and I'm going to just talk about a few of the things from this book because there's a lot of stuff in there. Some some very prominent, uh, people in the music business are named. I'm not going to talk about every single one, but just a few of them. She says when she first meets Diddy that they of course, you know, began at some point in time to engage in some. activity and he which is fine i mean you know by god go right ahead yeah he's not shy that's for

sure no no because what his idea of a good time is is he wants her to use extra large toys and and different things on him to the point to where he's you know bleeding um you know it seems a little painful to me i don't i don't know i wouldn't consider that what i would, you know, put in the classification as a pleasurable experience. But to him it was. And I think you can get there. I think at a point in time when you have money and stuff like, I'm not saying I'll ever be there, but I think it's possible.

When you have money and you have girls, I think, you know, you probably go to one girl, then two girls, then three girls, then this, than that. I think you eventually have to get to where that really, really, really far out there is what satisfies the regular craving for you. I think that's a thing. um you know my opinion i could be wrong it's not my thing but i think it is a thing for some people and she said that she was so weirded out by this experience that she didn't want to talk to him anymore and obviously she knew he was it was ditty but i mean she was just like this is pretty

strange i'm not going yeah it's too much and he pursued her for a while but they met up at a club and he was like you know i was just kind of a little out there and i'm sorry and i'd really like to give it another chance and you know they they get back to you together and she alludes in there that he had affairs with people like mary j bladge and that she also was having it was a pretty much an open relationship um they were both doing their own thing which is i think in hollywood and and you know that industry is probably pretty common one of the bigger ones was and this is the short that we you know that i discussed on the show was the two box situation now she claimed

in this book to have been with Tupac solo at another point in time now before all the bad blood between East Coast West Coast and before everybody wanted to you know take each other out all these guys are friends now there's some pictures in this book of people hanging out in the same location you know Snoop diddy etc and a lot of these I mean there's a famous um I forget right off where it's right off where it's at but I mean Pock and Biggie are together wrapping it like some concert that's a famous uh concert where they get up there in freestyle so there was a point in time where they all got along and she said they're they're at diddy's home and you know they're all

hanging out chilling and she's like she's been with pox solo and did he kind of brings it up like hey you know we've all been with each other but we've never been with each other together i've been with kim you've been with kim but we've never been with kim together and almost kind of lays out a competition as to one goes first and sees how long it takes to get Kim to climax right and pock is according to her words and i want to make sure people understand this i'm reading from this book i'm not saying this is i wasn't there i wasn't hiding in a closet oh hollywood wasn't nowhere around there okay i'm going off the book she says that pock is immediately like, you know, F that, F this, F that. You know, I'm not, I'm not feeling that or whatever.

And he's just like basically cusses ditty out and leaves. So this sends Diddy into a little bit of a tizzy. He's obviously upset. I don't know whether he's worried that, you know, pot could spill the beans on what he's into or what. The next day, she says she walks in on a conversation that was had between Pock and. a guy by the name of Jimmy Hinchman and that it was an orchestrated setup for Tupac to be shot,

which was the shooting that happened at Quad 6th studios the first time Pock got shot a number of times. Now I know people are going to say it wasn't Jimmy Hinchman, it was this person or it was that person or it was Haitian Jack or it was for this reason. I'm not saying this was exactly what happened. Again, I'm just reading from this book.

Now, if you watch that, Tupac and Biggie I don't know if I actually ever watched the Tupac movie but I know there was a show and he is going to the studio in New York allegedly big season from the street they wave him up as he goes into the lobby he's basically robbed and shot now in Tupac's mind he's thinking he was set up to come there that is really in a sense what kind of started this whole beef between Tupac and Biggie east coast west coast that event was the the catalyst that was the first domino to fall now pock did not obviously didn't die he got shot and he lived but he after that things just wasn't the

same now to hear this book tell it that was put into motion by ditty as a revenge for i guess pock dissing off the situation it seems a little extreme to go to that i'll admit but once it doesn't happen once he's not killed he's like all right well now he's going to be pissed now he's going to think it's us that will upset you yeah i mean i can see where he'd be a little you know some people shrug it off but some people take it personal i mean i would that's this personal it's personal um so now ditty is kind of like where do we go from here and so there's a meeting and he tells being big allegedly does not want to do this but he tells big to go ahead and drop the track who shot you this is all again this is all in her book i'm not making this up this isn't hollywood's you know hip hop fables this is from the book okay you know you don't like you don't want to believe me you know go go yell at the author that's all i can say that he tells him to go ahead and drop who shot you because it's almost a a poke at at Tupac. You know, I don't know if you're familiar with the song, but it kind of is

basically, you know, who shot you kind of says it, you know, but allegedly this was written before that happened. But now when he drops it, immediately it kind of just pours gasoline on the situation. And she says, Puffy's like, well, if he didn't die, he's going to fire back at us. We might as well at least profit financially from this. And so that kind of starts that. He drops that. Tupac drops hit him up, which was probably one of the greatest distrable. tracks ever. He talks about being with Fates why or Biggie's wife, Faith, Evans, excuse me, definitely not Faith Hill, Faith Evans. Um, and so that's where all those kind of tracks come into play. Now, Biggie Smalls is a whole other story in this

because Biggie allegedly was going to leave Bad Boy and go out on his own. Now, since I read that book in March, there's been multiple articles to drop here, there on different internet sources that said biggie was going to go out on his own there's been sources that said biggie and pot were going to both leave biggie was going to leave bad boy pot was going to leave death row they were going to get together and do their own label that has also been something i've read that is not in this book but that's just other things that i've read now puff says at a party this is at a party where a lot of prominent uh you know people are supposed to be at and kim over hears puffy say i'm not going to have his damn back if he's not got got my back 100 or something

something in that effect and he's like i can't do it myself but i'll pull protection if we ever leave new york now if you take that at face value when they go to california which is not the place that you know your your east coast rappers are very welcomed it is where big guys shot and if you look into the details of it gene deal who's been doing a lot of interviews here lately he was the bodyguard he was with puff nobody was with biggie big he was taken out he was shot i mean puff's car was not shot at so you kind of start to see maybe there is some validity of this but then i would like okay well why would you take out your biggest artist. Well, if he knew that Biggie was going to leave, he wasn't going to be his biggest

artists anymore. Right. And I'm not 100% sure on what happened with all the royalties and, you know, the masters and all of that stuff. There's a part in that book that says Valletta Wallace, who was Biggie's mom, came to Puff and was basically asking for some of the money that her son had earned and generated through all the music. and everything and he basically told her kind of like the whole mc hammer thing was like he didn't really make any money he was in debt you know i paid for all the publishing for these records i paid for this i paid for that really he owed me money but if you need a little bit of help i'll give you some yeah out of the goodness

of my heart yeah out of the goodness of my heart i'll give it to you because i'll be honest you haven't heard a ton from Valletta Wallace, good or bad about the whole situation with both. And let's be honest, did he, you know, I'm sure it was his friend. I'm sure they had, you know, some sort of bond, but he milk, you know, Biggie's death for everything it was worth. And apparently I'm not sure. I think it is true because they sting set it on the breakfast club.

He sampled, uh, the police, I'll be missing you when he sung that song for Biggie. Allegedly he has to pay sting. I want to say it's like a thousand or a couple of. couple thousand a day for the rights that's about to run out here real soon thing better be glad he got what he got because ditty's about to not be able to pay nothing for a while so that's another story that's in this book um there's also a story about you remember when he dated jennifer lopez yeah according to kim this whole entire relationship between them

who was basically a farce for the media. They were together. They would make public appearances. They would appear to be a couple. But in actuality, Kim was still living at his house. And there was an instance. I don't know how much you followed rap back in those days where you were out in those days.

Weren't you, who were you in jail? I was out, but I don't. I'm not sure the time. This would have been maybe. 90s there was a rapper that come out named shine remember him no I would have followed it more if they'd played it on WQ I K country okay I don't know that's a lot I would heard a lot more of it but they didn't tend to play those songs in country you're not gonna get a shine on on W I K K country there's not I'm glad there's not another K

in there otherwise that's gonna be some there can be some sniffing around that radio station that's why okay not KK oh Oh, okay, okay. So, Shine come out. I actually love Shine's first rap album. It is up there on like my top five of all rap albums. And I love all kinds of music. Shine had a very distinctive voice.

He sounded very much like Biggie Smalls. And he was kind of going to be that guy to revive bad boy to put him back in that gangster rap. Because you could tell a lot of his stuff that he was. rapping about was stuff he really did. I mean, he told a story. If you go back to how people and tell stories when they were rap, he was telling stories. I'm not going to say they were true, but they damn sure sounded true. If they weren't his, there were somebody that he knew. Right. Hungry now. Now. Now. What about now? Whenever it hits you, wherever you are, grab an O. Henry bar to satisfy your hunger.

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I don't think she died I think she got shot in the face I don't think anybody died I don't think um but anyways they all get in Puffy's uh SUV and take off now what is what it winds up happening is shine takes the rap for having the gun and doing the shooting but everybody immediately says that it was it was biggie shine gets a pretty substantial prison sentence out of this i don't know if he was like 10 years or or 12 years but he goes to jail that's what eventually winds up happening but before that like the next day after this shooting she says this is kim talking jlo shows up at the house and is like irate with with puffy saying that you know she's got a career and this is going to

to cost her career in movies and this that and the other and he tells her to relax that he's got it all under control she's like what do you mean you got it under control and he's like shine's going to take the rap for it he's going to take the bid nobody's going to have to do any time he's going to admit to having the gun he's going to admit to be being the trigger guy and you know we're we're basically going to skate on this and she's like what happens if he changes his mind why he's in there like if he don't decide hey i'm not going to do all this time he's like nobody inside will change their mind. There's too many people that can get to them if they decide to change their mind. And I guess to a certain degree, maybe it kind of set her at ease. And according to Kim,

before she leaves, he tries to get the three of them together to get together. And J-Lo's just like, no, there's too much shit going on. I can't do this. So even in the midst of all this, Puffy's still trying to, you know, get J-Lo and Kim in the bed. Um, you know, I guess, kudos to him. He's not priorities. Yeah, yeah, you do got, you got priorities. You got pro What shirt do you have on? Uh, this is, this is my Hock Tua 24. It's great. How about that girl, huh?

I don't want to get sidetrack, but Jesus, I'm just so jealous of her. I know, like, I mean, a random comment, boom, stardom. She's probably a multi multi millionaire in her by now, right? She's, I know the other day I read that she made her first. million she's got her podcast with uh what jake paul and the better response from it she's done been on all these matt rive saturday at his uh you know concerts or you know comedy shows yeah she's she's everywhere and good for her i'm not knocking a lot of people hate on i'm not not i would i would have grabbed that 15 minutes and wrote it for all i could too so yeah

but yeah that's that's my hot tuit shirt um so just a little tidbit here on the shine situation shine gets out of jail and allegedly he cut i think of his second rap album there's like two songs on there the quality is absolutely horrible allegedly he cut them from jail but now he gets out of jail and is given i can't remember the the number amount on the contract it was either like two million or eight million somewhere along in that neighborhood by a guy named L. A. Reed. L. A. Reed is a big music producer in Hollywood. You probably heard his name mentioned in other documentaries. Um, now he's given that by L.A. Reed to do like, you know, X amount of albums. That second one came out. He goes to a whole other country and that album never

comes out. Now, what it said is that was a payoff, a payoff that L.A. Reed made to shine to do some albums that he never did. L.A. never tried to follow up on it, get his money back or everything. because more than likely, you know, what happened and according to this book, Puffy paid LA under the table to give that to shine. That way it's not coming from him as payment for taking the rap for the right. And they have a legitimate reason on why he would pay him. He's supposed to do two albums and he fucked me over. Yeah. Yeah. So, but I mean, LA never pushes it. You know, he never goes after it, but correct. They have a legitimate reason why that money came, but you know nothing nothing ever came of it they never got what they were supposed to get

everybody said that was the payoff now there's another situation and this was actually picked up by a few media outlets radar online i think had it um angela ye who used to be on the breakfast club um she had it on her show it surfaced on a bunch of podcasts probably about a month ago where he had hit her i think with a chair and she woke up in the hospital hospital and of course he's yeah hit her hit him okay and she wakes up in the hospital you know after being hit with this chair he was apparently a very violent dude like you know not only would he beat her physically and especially if he thought she was talking to other guys but like it got to a point somewhere along in there where he was very very violent and but for whatever reason

she kept going back so it's one of those things were like you can only give pity for so long because you keep going back to this guy but she ultimately in the book she says that she loved him now she's manipulating her with money and threats and all kinds of stuff so or at least that seemed to be his MO according to the indictment but anyway and that's what I mean you got to figure when you've got that much money you got to think about this Matt we're talking about a guy that a year ago was given the key to the city of new york in the middle of time square they gave Sean Combs p. Diddy puff daddy? whatever you want to call him the key to the city and now he's possibly going away for the rest of

his life yeah i don't think the key it doesn't really open anything but i hear you no it doesn't open anything but it's still like you know well they did give francis key to the florida i think one time the bar is low like these criminals you're giving criminals like i should get it something class code something the key to a real estate agency down there something ridiculous um there's a situation where she winds up being pregnant oh now there there had been no well kim kim no i know ditty's not pregnant yes i'm saying i diddy yes by ditty yes kind of an open relationship it was in the beginning it kind of solidified back to a regular relationship but they would often have like other parties come in involved she would say that he

would have multiple people come in and be with her so he could watch and these are the parts when i'm hearing about this i'm like i don't know if this is you know 100% accurate it sounds like it's kind of stretched but then now with all these indictments it sounds right in line yeah and you got to remember again i'm reading this back in march or april so she finds out she's pregnant and she goes to him and she tells him and because they have been doing all this wild crazy shit she thinks that he's going to be upset and she said he's like smiling and he's like kind of happy he's like oh my god i'm going to be a you know a dad this is great because she had a kid when they first got together but it was from another guy named al be sure was another singer

so ditty was excited and she was like she said i was so relieved that he wasn't mad and she was like but we're going to have to go you know one more time now before you can't do this anymore she's like what do you mean and what he meant was they're going to have to do another you know basically i don't know i don't know if i would classify this as a party but he wanted multiple people multiple guys to be with her and we're talking like viz mcmand asked type situations like hurtful stuff stuff that i don't even want to say because i don't want to get this video demonetized right i mean just some really bad shit and she you know was somewhat i would say forced or you know at that point she's got his kids what can she do now after she has the kids

the relationship doesn't get any better there's still a lot of stuff going on you know there's there's a lot more stuff in the book so i can't remember all of it but the the key here is when she finally decides to get away now she said that he would record a lot of prominent people and keep them keep these recordings in a safe in his house. Now, she goes to his house, which I'm sure she had access to. Um, she gets the safe, gets the stuff from the safe, all these videos and she basically uses that as the exit strategy. And at that point, she says that she's going to write this book. And if anything happens to her, the book will be released along with the tapes.

Now, these tapes are alleged to have singers, usher. Justin Bieber you know there's a lot of prominent celebrities now these are all guys that have been in the media about being with him there's videos of him with Bieber saying that Bieber hung out of his house for like two or three days back when Bieber was

really young there's sometimes unbeknownst to the victims Colmes kept videos he filmed a victim's engaging in acts with commercial workers and then later it says in the indictment that

that he would use them to intimidate and, you know, coerce these various people. So, yeah, bro, this is why you should have done a video like this three months ago or two months ago. Well, like, I didn't, at that point, I was just like, I didn't want to come out and be like the delivery guy of a bunch of misinformation and this, that, and the other.

I was very, this is, you got to understand this is a guy that i would have not thought was responsible i don't think a lot of people thought he was responsible for us i interview guys that do that all the time yeah but i don't want to be that guy i mean listen there's a good 15 percent of these guys that are talking to me on this from my program and i'm thinking i don't think so doesn't that i don't think that happened that doesn't feel right but hey whatever anyway the book that's it's out right yes the book is out right now it's It's on Amazon.

Right. And it's been out for how long? It actually got, I think dropped on Amazon about two weeks ago, but it's been around since April. Okay. So it's been around, whatever, but it's been published, but it's been published two weeks ago and the indictment just came out. Yes, it's been out.

It's been published, I think on Amazon. It got posted Amazon roughly two weeks ago and the indictment, yeah, just dropped a day. And like I said, I'm not talking about, I do what? Do you have a copy of it? Not, not since it actually got published by Amazon because everything's changed. It was basically just like a, it looked like a movie script when I got it. Okay. Now it's got like a cover and it's actually, I don't know if you can see this, but, uh,

Oh, that's not a bad cover. It's not horrible. Kim's lost words. It looks a little blur on the phone, obviously. But the book didn't even have a cover when I read it, which is another reason why I was a little. skeptical about all this but it did have some pictures mixed in there with it and again like I said this is just come out a couple weeks ago the indictment just happened but I read all this you know

months and months ago and then a little bit by little bit all these things were coming out there's clips of him if you search Diddy and Bieber where he's talking about he had Bieber at his house and they were partying and hanging out together then if you watch there's a clip with usher where he's with Howard Stern and he's talking about the ditty parties i think they they called it something but it was the ditty parties um that he would go to and he's basically saying that a lot of shit went on the shit and went on and how he's even asked he's like if you had a son would you let him go to a ditty party and he's like absolutely not so she gets her hands on these tapes and that's basically like her

security you know that all right if something happens to me this is going to go right now they do separate she gets sick and ultimately passes away in pneumonia he's not questioned or anything in this you know they ruled it pneumonia so i don't want to you know drum up a conspiracy with that but they didn't question him in anything like that it wasn't ever really looked into did he do this even though there's been quite a few people in the music industry involved with did he this died of pneumonia i mean not saying that's a coincidence but i'm not saying that's a coincidence but I'm saying that's, it looks like a coincidence. So she's, she's got this.

She passes away in pneumonia. Now her house is robbed. Right. And basically what they're saying that what happened here is, or the consensus is that did he knew she had this. So he went and tried to retrieve all these hard drives. And the word is that he did. Now obviously, this isn't what's in the book.

This is what I was told by this individual of how. he became in possession of it was did he got the hard drive did he got all the evidence back from her now at some point and this is again this is alleged this is coming second third hand information Cassie got it from him and Cassie gave it to someone who he knew and that's how he come in contact with it Cassie is the girl obviously that was shown in the video of him really really brutalizing in the in the hallway and next to the elevator that's the video that released probably two or three months ago i don't know if you remember that one or not it was pretty graphic what he did okay chasing her down the hall beating her kicking her and

all that allegedly she got it from him and whoever she gave it to knew the person that i was speaking with and that's how they actually got it um they're obviously worried about repercussions from releasing this but they wanted the truth to come out and so that's kind of where we where we are now you notice the name on that book of the author yeah well it's not the author she's the it's yeah well yeah by uh uh milwood or whatever uh jamal millwood t millwood for for lee porter right now you want to know what you get when you google jamal millwood this just kind of goes further down this rabbit hole this was an alias of what a parent a allegedly Tupac Shakur used after he faked his death.

Oh, okay. So I don't know whether this is just like a little inside thing or, or what with this. But yeah, there's a lot more stories here, man, there's stuff with Jay-Z. Um,

and I think I might have skipped over that part that allegedly Jay-Z was the one that told Biggie or told Puff that big he was planning on leaving, which is what kind of said that emotion that he was going to pull protection. He wasn't going to back someone that wasn't backing him. The kind of the story behind that is if Jay-Z wanted that, that spot of New York for him. And if Biggie was around, he was going to be second. Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. That's in the book written.

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all these indictments and we can get into these indictments it seems like this book was spot on because we're not just talking about a few minor instances here. He's got racketeering charges, which carries a life sentence. A lot of the mob guys that I've interviewed had racketeering charges. He's got kidnapping charges that are a minimum of like 10 and these trafficking charges can go up to life at the minimum of 15. And that's just a few. Yeah. And have you seen from what I've seen they have not given him bond, I don't think. No, I, I, I, I can't imagine that, well, I was going to say, I can't imagine they will, but the truth is they might give it to him. He puts up enough property. He's, he's well known enough. It's kind of like the whole Sam Bankman-Fried thing.

It's like, okay, you can say, well, he shouldn't get bond. He could flee the country. Well, where's he going to go? You know, there's very few places this guy can go is, you know, he's, he's got enough property and stuff to put up as collateral. and he's too recognized to recognizable to disappear no i agree and i guess i never had this obviously i never had this kind of a you know situation to deal with but it looks like kind of a proposal of his defense team defense team and it's like a 50 million dollar bond he's going to put up his home in miami it's equated to 50 or 49 million um obviously you can put up other assets of his businesses part of the deal was he would be, uh, I guess confined to his home in Florida and his home in New York and

New Jersey, put an ankle monitor on, for an ankle monitor on. He suspended his, um, passport. So obviously he can't leave the country and also his family, his kids and his family surrendered their passports as well. Um, but last I seen, I don't know 100% if I can say is denied, but he hasn't. It hasn't gotten it yet. And I don't really imagine with these charges that he's going to get it because that's not it. It's not just those three.

And you got the indictment there, but you know, they got on there coerging, uh, enticing to engage in narcotics, arson, bribery, um, you know, obstruction to justice. Like they got a lot of stuff on him. Yeah, it's carrying what he's known to care weapons. His, his staff carries. about that the new york the new york incident what we talked about yeah they'll threaten you with the weapons they're threatening you with your career with violence with what with you know everything across the board so it it reads very much like our uh an organized crime like a a continuing criminal enterprise

that he's involved in and he's got a whole group of people that are protecting him and that are basically on staff to clean up after him to make sure that it doesn't get out in the public to intimidate people and of course you're you're moving people for you're flying people in from various states for you know for acts like that's that's that's not that's you know trafficking it's it's all kinds of stuff you know whether that whether these are and they're willing to do it or not it's illegal to fly them in so it's it's all federal jurisdiction he's got some problems the real problem is they don't have to chart they don't have to prove a whole bunch of this It's not like that to prove every single element.

Yeah. So and God knows how many people are ready to get on the stand and start talking, especially once he's in custody. Once he's in custody and he's been indicted, more people will jump out because a lot of people are like, I don't want to, I don't want to come in and talk because my fear is I'll talk. It'll become known that I talk and you'll never indict this guy and it'll be out there that I fucking was, I was cooperating. And that's bad for me.

Yeah. But once you grab the guy and throw him in jail and start a. arresting people and they realize, oh, this is serious. Okay, I'll talk to you. And that's why you see when you see cases like, you know, Epstein or Weinstein or whatever, once that first domino falls, all the other ones start to come behind it. And, you know, people say, well, why didn't you say um, it could be a lot of reasons why these girls didn't talk in Weinstein's case. If these girls talk, you know, they were, you know, basically threatened with abolishment of the industry. That's how they make their

living, you know, so you can say, oh, I wouldn't do that. you don't know what you would do if that's how you make a living and it say hey you do this or you're never working this town again you know who knows and apparently a lot of people had to endure that and that's why bill cosby more people started coming out more people started coming out and I think like you said it gives a a sense of security when they're behind bars and then it really starts to the the dominoes really starts to fall and it sounds a lot to me Matt like he's running this like a mob style family like he's really running off threats, intimidation, he's got the money to buy whoever, you know, he

needs poverty, definitely local cops, you know, own up to detectives probably, he could probably put on the payroll if you wanted to. Let's not sit here in that like New York is the most clean, you know, city with a great criminal record that nobody's ever took a bribe or, you know, a conspiracy in that town. Um, and I think that's really what it is, is he's running this thing like a mob family. And there's, uh, connections that. His dad, I think was tied into Frank Lucas, who was a heavy drug dealer. He was portrayed in the movie American Gangster when Denzo Washington played him.

And I think there's an interview where he talks about Frank is talking to Puffy. And he's saying that he knew his dad. So, you know, Puffy's dad was kind of in this life to a certain degree, too, the gangster life. So it's like he made his money in music, but he still wanted to be a gangster, but yet he had this really undying fetish for basically hours and hours. and hours and hours of activity. And the guy's got to be up there. Well, if the chick was 47 when she died, this is the chick you're banging and she died.

It's got to be 50 something, I would imagine. You know, the narcotics trafficking, we're going to read some of the narcotics here. And you may have them on your list. But, you know, this was, you know, blow oxycodone, X, GHB, which is also the date rate drug. And this is the kicker here. I didn't, I don't think this come out back when they raided his house because this is when this was found over 1,000 bottles of baby

oil and lube three AK 47s with drum magazines. I hope that wasn't all in the same room. Otherwise, I got some, I got some serious questions. What are you doing with 1,000 bottles of baby oil? I mean, I was, you know, a lot of slipping and sliding, you know, you take five or six bottles and you, you paint, you, um, duct tape a couple of shower curtains together. You lay them out on the floor and it's just like a big slip and slide. Like it's all over the place.

I heard a guy tell me a long time ago. This is actually when you could still find these things. Do you remember water beds? Yeah. Of course. He said that that was the funnest experience. ever had was he had this chick and they ripped off all the sheets it was just that little plastic thing that had the water and they just doused it with baby oil and everything and just just just

had a good time never had a good time on a water but the rhythm of the water throws me off yeah and you do that i feel like you're slipping and slide and you're somebody you know somebody's shooting off the bed and you know why hitting the wall and i just feel like i just know it'd be a catastrophe for me you know maybe that's the idea it's like having in the shower it sounds good it's not it's not you got to get foot placement down you don't want to fall no threesome's bumpy awkward somebody's a left out it's yours i'm sorry yeah sorry yeah it sounds really cool and they make it look cool in the movies but no maybe there's a class or something i'm probably doing it wrong but anyway yeah i'm sure there's a class you can probably listen to it on crime and entertainment i'm sure some good

did he took a class oh yeah he took i think he taught him he could teach he'll be teaching ace courses on this in prison yeah they they call these parties the freak off parties did you hear did you hear the um sorry did you hear the press conference when the u s attorney had to say freak off over and over again like it's so hard for him to be he's trying to make it sound really they called these parties freak off there he's it's like i wouldn't have even touched on that if i was you i would have left that part out there's some things i just wouldn't have just wouldn't broach some shows i'd be like look i can't pull this off i can't do it and and that's where i guess you would say he's flying in male performers to be with the regular girls like i don't even

think it's enough for him to be involved he wants to see it and then him be involved and then they said after all this is over that they would get IVs you know to because they had engaged in this for so long I guess the the the GHB was used to keep them in sort of a comatose state that they were okay with it they would have to go get IVs to give them energy back with these okay so these these are like male we're talking about right I'm assuming And then it said male performers. So like, that's what I'm guessing. How do you get that gig? Yeah. I mean, you're going to be off daddy is going to pay to fly me down and just run through a bunch of girls all night long. You know, I don't, I don't, I mean, listen, when I was in the halfway house and I was, you know, it was on one of those, uh, I was on one of those websites looking to apply for jobs. Nothing. Nothing. I'm so pissed at Darlington. Hi, my alma.

moderate that was not on the field day list or the career day list you know i didn't i didn't see puff daddy's uh male on there or i would have you know say he was popular back then commercial performers what does that even mean like that is the male stars is the only thing i can think of what you're thinking okay okay it's got to be or either just i mean i'm sure they have like i don't know what you call them nowadays male escorts or whatever but i don't see all that No. I don't want to follow that. I don't want to follow that. Listen, I've seen some. I'm going to be honest with you. I've seen some of these things. I don't follow that up. Like I see something like that. I'd be like, yeah, I don't want to know. I don't. I don't want to. And now what? Now, now Kim's coming. Now, Kim, come on. Let's go to bed. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's 9.45. I want to go to bed.

What are you going to do with that? I said a gas bump inside of her. Can follow that up. Oh, boy. And you know right here before this indictment come down, I'd say about a month, a couple weeks, he got a $100 million lawsuit on him, like a lawsuit. I remember that. I actually was reading about that right before we hopped on there. I remember seeing it come out.

And it's like these dominoes were already starting to fall. I don't know how this dude wasn't panic because apparently he was just chilling in Central Park before all this time down. He knew it was coming down. down. I mean, he's probably just like, look, it's this is coming down. He's been holding this thing together for the longest. He's stressed out of his mind. He's probably on all kinds of, you know, he's, you know, on all kinds of Xanax and whatever. And he's just waiting for this whole for the whole for the ship to go down. He's been preparing. He knows he can't go anywhere. He knows I can't run. I can't do anything. Like there's nowhere I'm going to go to get away from this, you know. And he's hoping he's he's duct taped it together enough that. maybe they won't get an indictment or maybe I'll beat the charges or because let's face it, he, he had people standing by. He had a crew of lawyers standing by waiting for this to come down. Yeah, he had to know.

I think everybody knew it was coming. It was just a matter of time. And that's what makes me think that they're really, really going to try to nail him to the wall on this because this was, you know, this was really back in March when all this happened or somewhere around there. They built this case. this entire time. And he had to know what they found in a lot of these things. And especially if he found, you know, video footage of these parties. And I think that's why they said

that so many people were scared to go up against Diddy is because he might have had dirt on him. So who's going to speak out against them? It's like when you go to this, you know, you basically sell your soul. There is a video that's leaked online. Um, this is nowhere mentioned in the book because obviously I think by the time he got on seen Kim had passed away but there's another rapper named meek mill and allegedly there's a some activity going on some shannon sharpness going on in this and you can it definitely sounds like puffy it definitely sounds like him in there um meek that's kind of up for debate but there's it's uh it's it's they've got something going there in that video it says rather short but it's

it sounds pretty close did did you see what happened with Shannon Sharp last week no what you know Shannon Sharp is no I don't know these people what so Shannon Sharp was a former NFL player and he's got his own podcast called club Shay Shay that's the one where Kat Williams kind of let out a lot of stuff about all the big celebrities and oh yeah okay that's Shannon Sharp so he's with a lady friend and he he said he's never been on Instagram live before in his life so he goes with lady Fred back at this room somehow or another inadvertently accidentally his phone goes on

instagram live and he proceeds to uh as he called it starts clapping cheeks and this is going live like you can hear everything you can't see it because it's like it's showing the ceiling or maybe laying on some covers or something like that but you can hear a good play by play you know going on and he's like you know we finished it his explanation of it was hilarious and he's like we finished and he's like I got another phone and only a couple people know and he's like the phone is going crazy people's calling me on face time he's like some people ain't never call me on face time and they say oh you got to cut your phone on man what you talk about he said then his age as long as time agent or manager calls was like man you're on instagram live on your phone you need to cut off he said what you mean i'm on instagram live he said your phone's on instagram live he said well what what's what do you you hear and he said well sounds like it happens and he's like and he's like and so the manager put up something like you know this account was hacked don't know what happened we're looking into it he comes out the next day and it's like look i don't know how it happened but it happened it was me

and he's like look i told you i get it in i mean he's trying to he's trying to play it off but i mean it's odd to find you that lincoln sent it's funny but i mean he got roasted for it but again that's that's consensual that's two people doing something of their own free will nobody was being beaten with a chair he shanna didn't have four offensive linemen ready to go in after him and you know tear this girl apart what did he is doing here is uh is way way way past i think consensual to anything that anybody had going on and now you're seeing more and more women come up and speak out and i think this is just the tip of the iceberg and when people start you know getting a hold of this book and seeing everything that Kim went through if he can do that to

the kids of his you know the mother of his kids and there's nobody the safe there's there's nobody to say maybe now but yeah well i don't know um i don't want kind of freak nick you can pull off in uh whatever that jail is he is he's in brooklyn or is he at i I mean, I don't know. He's got to be what he's in, I don't know, New York or something. Get Gene Borrello on the phone and tell me where he's at. Yeah, I'll see Brooklyn. I keep heard him talk about that. So here's the thing. Do, does he end up going to trial or does he take a plea? You know what the problem with someone like this guy is? In his mind, he thinks if I pay my lawyers enough, I can beat this at trial. And you just can't beat

the feds at trial if you're guilty and it sounds like he's extremely guilty so the problem is is that the lawyers are thinking we can fucking make a fortune taking this to trial and we'll lose maybe we win maybe by some miracle we end up getting a mistrial or we win but we will fucking make bank if we take this to trial then they're going to do a podcast and then they're they're going to write a book and then do everything that the OJ lawyers did after that. Well, what's well happened is they'll, they'll just gut him for as much money as they possibly can. Oh,

they'll cut the hell out of him. They'll drag the trial out. They'll make whatever, $50 million or however much he blows on, on his trial. He gets found guilty and then he'll get 30 years, maybe longer. Now,

now they'll probably offer him some kind of a plea like, hey, take 20 years. you know take 20 years and and and and but in his mind he's saying no it's better to just go to trial I can't beat it at trial but the truth is you can't beat at trial and your lawyers will probably his lawyers if they're good lawyers they'll tell him take 20 if they're bad lawyers or just basically that's if they're just lawyers they're going to convince him to go to trial because they know how much money they're going to make at trial so if he's smart he's got decent lawyers they'll tell him take the 20 and we'll try and get you some kind of a reduced sentence

or we'll try and get some kind of mitigating factor they'll try and convince him they can try and get a less than 20 but he needs to take 20 and won't be that bad and with the uh with credits and with good time and halfway house and it won't be that horrible and it will be but um well especially for him he's kind of fall he's he has fallen so far right now he's being treated in prison in a way that he's never been treated in his life oh yeah And I mean, it's, it's, it's bad. He's never had a door shut where there's nothing. There's no cable.

There's no, there's it, the mattress sucks. It's noisy. People are screaming. You can't get, you can't get up and get a snack. It's cold as fuck all that you, they put you in a, in a jumper that's been worn by 800 other people. I mean, it's just, it's disgusting. You know, it's, it's going to be bad.

He's, he's, right now, he is in the, he's in the depths of, of a depression that he's never known. And he's coming off of all the drugs that he typically has in his system, he'll poke with anxiety and everything else that he's going through. He's going to have a bad time. The next few days are going to be rough. What happens is if it's probably better for him if they keep him there, they keep him there, then by the time he's like trying to talk about pleas and going to

trial and going back and forth with the U.S. attorney, if he's been there for a few months, His expectations of life have dropped dramatically, and he might start thinking, you know what, okay, so I take 20, I'll end up doing 10 or 12. I can probably do that. It'll suck, but I can do that. I'll still have a bunch of money when I get out. And I won't be, he won't be living like a normal inmate. I'll go to a low security prison.

In a few years, they'll send me to a camp. I'll be able to get a cell phone, play video games. you know, I'll arrange it so that chicks can come in and I can bang them. You know, like it won't be that horrible of a situation in a few years because he can go to a camp. It still sucks, but it's not, it's not like Shawshank Redemption. And sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. So you almost made that sound a little appealing to some people the way you just run on that.

I mean, food, who have women come in. He's got a cell phone play video game. You can basically stay drunk most of the time. You can, you know, you can, you can work. out you can do what basically you get a regular job and like i said right now that seems like hell but his expectations of life what he expects out of life is pretty high right now as it drops to the point where you know reading a good book and drinking a a beer and texting somebody on the phone is like an amazing amazing and super entertaining and be able to watch youtube like by the time

he gets into a camp and he can get a cell phone get an iphone get an iphone and watch YouTube, watch movies, play video games. Like, it's really just like a really shitty summer camp with shitty guards. But let's face it, he can also put money on everybody's books. There will be guards that he'll take care of. Oh, 100%. Yeah, like it's not like 12 years, doing 10 or 12 years and almost most of it in a camp is honestly not really bad with money. Are you able to, that's what I was going to say. That's kind of what I was going to say. That's kind of what I was going to get to are you a are you saying it's not that bad because he has the money yes if you didn't have the money it would be much worse well it would be worse but it's still not that bad

because then what happens is you have the guys that basically just cater to the guys with the money so do you think he would get even with these trafficking and you know all these other crimes that he's accused of racketeering i mean that's some serious crimes that you know do you think he could still swing a plea deal to get him in that sort of a prison I think that the U.S. attorney would give him to, well, first of all, the plea deal has nothing to do with the, what kind of prison. It's the time and what the charges are. So he'll get 20, but he'll start getting the, what they call it, the first chance that, the FS, whatever, they call these credits that you can get.

He'll start getting credit. Right. So, well, the what? The first chance, uh, yeah, so first he gets 20 immediately three years come off. So he's down to seven 17 years, right? Then he'll start getting he'll start earning credits right away. So after let's say three or four three or four years, huh? Why do you start earning credits right away? Because he'll work. You get credits for working. You get credits for taking classes. So after a few years of taking those classes. And by the time he goes to a prison, he'll already probably have a year in. He won't get sentenced for over a year, let's say. So you've got a year off. You got to, so you're already 16 years for two or, let's say for three years.

He's working and he's taking. So he's working and he's taking classes. He gets his time knocked off. He gets credits for that. So very quickly, he'll get down to around 10 years and they'll get him sent to a camp. Okay. But even the lows very much, it's similar to a camp. So he'll go to a camp.

And even in the low, he can get a cell phone. Like, he'll have a cell phone. But in a camp, you can basically, you don't ever have to go to the chowall. You can have people bringing in your meals. You can have a cell phone. You can play video games. You can watch movies. And that's basically from the institution.

You know, let's say if you don't have a cell phone, you can still watch it. You can buy movies. You can buy music. He can listen to his music on an MP3 player. He can watch movies on the, you know, they sell the little. iPads where you can watch movies you can play video game he'll be able to do all those kinds of things in the camp very quickly so he's got a shitty four years ahead of him and then he'll have still have a kind of a shitty um the rest of the time still it'll be shitty let's say he'd probably be able to get

out in 12 years he could probably do 12 years on 20 that's roughly and that's and i think he can get to a camp i'm sorry one more thing the other question was he can get to a camp because although there charges, it's not, it's not CP. Yeah. It's, they're just, they're there, they're, it's trafficking. So it's not like he forced, you know, like it was, it was necessary. He's not being charged with like rape. Right. He's not charged with, you know, with certain things that will keep you from that. And he may even get that stuff dropped. Let's say he gets that stuff dropped. That's what I'm thinking. A lot of these charges will probably get dropped. They'll stick one. And that'll be the one that kind of gets him the bulk of his time.

The thing that I'm curious of, and I don't know if he will, but like, you got to know that Diddy knows and probably has names of a lot of people, influential and high places that are probably not sleeping very well right now. Because if he decides to start talking, I don't know what they would cut him, but. But what are these people? So think about it. If you're a U.S. prosecutor, because I hear this a lot, like Sam Bankman-Freet, right? So you take him, they were like, oh, he's paid off. I mean, this guy is literally given millions of dollars to politicians, directly to politicians. Nobody came out to help him.

Nobody's writing him letters. Nobody's in the courtroom. Nobody's making calls in the back room. This guy goes to trial. He fucking loses. So what I'm saying is with with Diddy, who does he really know? These are all actors. These are all right. That's what I'm saying. I don't think they'll be coming to help him. I'm thinking that they might be worried that he would name them as complicit in what they were doing. Oh, you're saying like cooperate and say, hey. Yeah. Yeah. What's the guy's name? What's the guy's name? He was a big time actor, black actor.

Will Smith. No, Cubic, Will Smith. Cubing Jr. What's his full name? Cuba Gooding Jr. He was in Boys in the Hood, Jeremy. beginning junior yeah he was great in it and he's actually great in both of those um anyway uh but let's say he knows stuff about this guy and he's like hey i know stuff about this i got this guy on video i got this like those are mitigating factors and maybe that's even a sentence reduction maybe it's a five a five k one so that's possible but this guy's so high profile maybe he gets 20 years and then they knock five off in six months from now if he can give up enough people and if he has enough evidence because like even some of the names that were named of people that he had dirt on was like TD jakes who's a big prominent like preacher you know in the black community

um there was a bunch of names man like i said you got did uh beber um usher like it will smith was named to be at some of these parties these wild parties that was go on his house, along with his wife. So I mean, like, you got to think that if there's one guy that knows a lot of the upper echelon of Hollywood and, you know, that seems dirty secrets, it's definitely him because it sounds like they went to him to fulfill a lot of these things. You know, I was going to say about the sentence reduction. A lot of times a U.S.

attorney will take that into consideration and they'll give you more time. Like, we're going to give you 30 years, but don't worry. knock 10 years off if you cooperate. But the truth is, if you had no option to cooperate, they were going to give you 20 anyway. Yeah, they were going to give it to you anyway. You know, so it's, it's still really, that's where like a good lawyer comes in. And then if they're even interested, you have someone like, you know, let's say El Chapo, not that this guy's on that level, but you go to El Chapo and he says, I can give you this person, this, but sometimes you're such, so high profile. Yeah, that's like, I'm sorry, bro. Like, you're, I don't care who you give us.

Yeah, John Gotti couldn't have given them anybody that would have made them not want to say, hey, look, we got our guy. We got John Gotti. Yeah, you're dying in prison. Yeah. I don't care what you do, who you give us, you're dying in prison, period. You know, Madoff, Bernie Madoff, you're dying in prison, period. That's it. I don't, no, no, no, but I can give you the head of this hedge fund and this hedge fund.

I don't give a shit. So, yeah. So this guy's got some problems. He's got a he's I'm curious to know if they'll let him out. If they do let him out, I'd be curious to know if he didn't, you know, what's the term unalive himself on alive himself. Yeah. Cause I mean, you got to look at when when everything come out with Epstein and all these prominent celebrities we're going to this island and on this manifest, which, you know, for some reason, still hasn't really surfaced as the way it should. Um, you know, then he that allegedly happens to him. So when you're. dealing with the upper echelon of society and a lot of these important people that like to uphold somewhat of a good upstanding image that can be rather dangerous now I do think that he can probably isolate himself a little better than then Epstein could I think he's got more guys that are capable of handling such situations but

once you get behind bars that is a little bit more difficult to obtain you know you're you're a little bit more limited not that there aren't bad guys that would protect him in prison but you're still a little bit more limited behind bars of what you can do as far as protection if the right people have it out for you yeah yeah that's i agree so it'll be interesting how this plays out because like i remember i told you about this book a while back but i was just i was just reluctant to bring it out i didn't want to be that guy that brought up a bunch of stuff oh that never happened you slipped up bro you just yeah i dropped you should have done this thing months ago or a couple

we or even a week or two again you know you're caution now i could be sitting here going i told you six months ago all this was going on you didn't want to believe me i told you it was coming but i mean i encourage everybody go check out the book i mean it's highly entertaining kim's lost words you're going to come out with that title i don't know you got to ask Jamal Millwood. Kim's lost words. Wouldn't have been my title, but I mean, no. It's, it is, it's,

it's just shy of 60, 60 pages. I looked it up. Yeah, I, I would repack. I would probably, I need to talk to Jamal because we need to, I need to, we need to talk about repackaging this thing, because the packaging is not great, but it would be interesting to read, well, I mean, there's no, like there's no blurb on the back jacket cover. the photos very very dark well that's what i'm saying i don't think this was intended to necessarily be a full-blown book as the way it's written and the way it reads is definitely more

of a diary concept that has kind of been compiled structurally into a timeline if you will um so that's only you know x amount of pages but you know even the stories that i've told you here there there's those in there there's a few more um i can't remember them all because it's been quite a few months, but I did know that it did get released the other week. And then when this come out, I called you today and I'm like, bro, we might as well just go ahead and talk about it. Because still, you haven't really heard a lot of people talk about this book other than a few weeks ago when that started that article started circulating about her getting hit and then waking up in the hospital. That's when it finally started to circulate. Well, what's interesting is that

it, it hasn't been published a long, long time ago. Like it's like you said, it's been floating out there for all this, all this time and nobody's ever taken it and said, hey, let's put this thing on Amazon. I think what you just said probably could have lend itself to the reason of, you know, he's not, he's kind of walking around. He's free. He sees his book. You know, there's, you know, there's no telling what he might could do or try to figure out

who's behind it. So maybe they waited. Maybe they knew the indictments were coming down. You know, maybe it's somebody that's tied into the inner circle. I mean, I think definitely now, he was rated like he was rated months ago. Yeah, but I mean, I don't know. I can see where they'd be a little cautious. I mean, this man is alleged to have taken out a lot of people, not just with, you know,

you know, it's not just stop with that. Like, I think when they're, when they talk about the arson, it was alleged that he blew up somebody's car. I can't remember that guy's name right off the top of my head, but it was alleged that he blew up somebody's car. This was a rival in the music business that I think owns. some rights or something or some stake of the company that he had so it's not just you know focused on the trafficking and all the weird you know kinky stuff that was going on there's a lot

of stuff here that he was running his stuff kind of like a gang you know or a mob family so to speak so it's i can see where if he's blowing up guys cars people might be really lucky to put out things and that's largely probably why you've never heard too many people come out and spoke bad because until that house got raided You never really heard a whole lot. You know, maybe rumble here and there, but not nothing nowhere near like what you're hearing now. How long do you think it takes for him to get a sentence if he gets sentenced? I'm assuming you're bet he is.

A year? A year. Well, now, wait a say, if he takes a plea, if he takes a plea, I'd say he's a year away from being sentenced. Now, if he gets out on bond much, much longer. because he'll want to drag it out. Right. And that's something I think a lot of people just say in case that my lawyer even told me that. He's like, if you're good, the longer you drag this thing out, the better.

Yeah. And if he goes to trial, you know, what year, two years, about two years before he's sentenced. They got to prepare for trial. They're going to need a ton. They're going to have to get their shit together. They're going to have to prepare, you know, ditties people are going to keep trying to push it off, push it off. Uh, they've got a, you know, witnesses to, um, to interview.

And yeah, it's, it, it could be, he would probably won't be found guilty in sentence for two years. And then what you talked about of the unaliving himself, I think is a strong possibility because you look at guys of that stature. They don't fare too well in prison. You know, Floyd Mayweather, the boxer, I remember one time he had to do like X amount of days and like they, they wrote this big thing to the ward and say that he had to be let out because it was detrimental to his health and his you know digestive system and

all this other shit like some guys just aren't cut out for prison and i don't say he's one yeah because wardens are uh words are are are so soft-hearted yeah you know he worked he got out like he didn't even have to do the full time and it's because he beat a woman yeah oh i didn't know that and as all of his time if i'm not mistaken was in like solitary which that's probably a good thing because he wouldn't uh you know he might be a boxer but that behind them walls is just a whole other story um and you know who knows he might have been treated great i don't know um mike tyson for what i understand had a very good time in prison um yeah yeah yeah tyson's i'm sure you know a legend in there i was a legend out here you know he's a legend in there and he's and he's also you know well-behaved

and he did well in a very structured environment and you know he'll he'll tell you you like it was the most calm and serene and peaceful he's ever been in his entire life you know some people thrive nobody try to like dick him out of money or or nothing like that it was like yeah i've heard that and i can see that like coming from what he came from floyd there was a reason why he wanted to do all of it solitary though that was there was there had to be a reason which he wasn't doing no long stretch either i think he only had to do like 30 days and he wound up doing like 15 or 17 or something yeah i was going to say uh keep in mind to do Did he, by the time he gets there, he'll have money on 20 guys' books.

Like, he'll be treated like a king, right? Like, let's say, let's say he's in the county. Yes, he's the U.S. Marshals holdover from here on out. And then a year from now, he gets sentenced and he gets 20 years and they send him to, you know, some sweet, low security prism. By the time he actually gets off the bus, there's going to be 10 guys that already have money on their books waiting for him he'll have shower slides he'll have a full locker of of commissary he'll have

he'll have a lock he'll have whatever he wants new towels new this new that he'll get the best of everything because he'll just drench these guys you know he'll saturate that compound and money and within you know within a few days he'll have a phone i mean it'll be and that's legal to do that if you got it that's okay is it legal like no one inmate's not supposed to place money on another inmate's books, but that it happens all I've had guys like literally I've had guys put money on my books because you can only spend, um, let's like $350 to $400 in commissary, right? So every month I can only spend $400, let's say on commissary. Well, what happens if you buy a lot of commissary?

Like you're basically eating out of commissary. You're barely going to the chow hall. You don't like some of the meals. You have people prepare meals for you. You buy commissary. And it's going to cost you, let's say it costs you 800 bucks. So what you do is you just say, hey, Matt, can I put 400 bucks? Like, you barely ever go to commissary.

Do you mind? I'll put 400 bucks on your, on your books. You go to commissary and I'll buy you $50 worth of stuff. And, you know, what am I going to say? Yeah, what do I care? I barely ever go to, you know, I buy coffee and creamer, you know, at the most. Like, that's it. Like, yeah, sure, no problem.

You know, so you don't mind doing those things. And I'm not, you also have to imagine that if you're, if you're some guy, you're a gang member, there's a whole bunch of gang members that are in there and they say look here's what we're going to do we're going to give your family a thousand dollars and we're going to put 400 bucks on your books to help with your family but you got to make sure this guy's okay and by the way pick four or five guys that you need you're there are you going to need their support to make sure this guy's got support absolutely put money on my buddy this guy's book this guy's book this guy you know all you could put a couple thousand dollars on my books yeah you'll just sit there I know guys

that have over $100,000 on their books right now. Jeez. Yeah. I mean, I know guys that are like, they're older guys. They come to prison. They've got multiple sources of retirement funds. And then before they go to their money manager and say, hey, by the way, every month, this one, just put that on my books.

What happens is they get to prison and they realize that I can only really spend maybe a hundred bucks on the phone and for core links, which is for your, to be able to use the computer. So maybe I can spend 200 bucks on that stuff and 400 bucks at commissary. I can't spend more than $600 a month on everything I can buy. And you guys and you're putting $1,200 or $2,000 a month on my books. It just keeps growing and growing and growing. Five years later, you're like, fuck, man, I got like $100,000 on my books.

And you know what? The warden will call you in and they'll be like, look, what's going on? You got to get this off your books. And I know guys that have had, I know guys that have had art. arguments where they're like, I got nowhere to put it. Like, I know I'm not doing that. I mean, what do we, you know? Let me out. Let me run down to the bank. Hold on. Hold on a second. Jess has a question. My wife has a question. Yes. Okay. Yeah, but no, because here's a problem. Or here's the thing. He's not being charged with, you know, I don't want to say it again and again. We've already. You know, he's not forcing in. You know, he's not forcing in. anybody to do anything he's just doing the trafficking side of it right well I understand what the indictment says the indictment but the but here's the thing you've got you've got professional you know if you got professional people being flown in committing acts you've got so these guys are not

going to think you're a bad guy it's like to him he's going to be like what they're they're thinking wait a minute if this is some hot chick and I'm saying I can help your career but I want to do some funky stuff to you you could say no leave like that's the that's what these guys the way they're thinking they also know the way the government twists it and so that they you know is the the tapes these guys would probably actually you have to think the individuals you're dealing with in there they're sick so taping some hot rapper chick doing some funky stuff and some female actress or some male actress they'll actually think like dang bro like you yeah man that's some yeah boy you got some shit on it like they're not going to think they're not going to think this is horrific this is a horrible thing these are guys that have high morals and you have to look at it from the aspect too is he's she's saying he's not going to be treated like a show absolutely not no absolutely and he's going to shower that those guys with with money they're going to treat him like that was my thing is like when he comes in there it's like okay could you make an example out of them and throw him a beating

Or do you take advantage of this guy because you know he's your access to unlimited supply of money for you, your boys, your people on the outside, and you're going to keep him hole in there. Absolutely. Which one is going to give you a greater benefit? Absolutely. Yeah. No, these guys are not resting on their morals. Like, they're not, they're not. If you come in there and you're broke, maybe, you don't have nothing to offer.

If he was broke, then they might push him around, talk some shit to him. No, nobody talking and saying nothing. that guy will be running the place but you're still in prison like it sounds good but you're still in prison it still sucks bad boy for life I don't know what that means

I said you even know any of this man's songs no did you know who Biggie was yes because I painted a bunch of paintings of Biggie because I got not when you painted them I'm talking about when the man was alive and singing

I had no idea. No. I did see the movie colors. And when I saw the movie colors, you don't know the movie colors? I know the movie colors. I'm not sure where this fits in to Biggie. Did he have a song?

Not him, but I'm saying rap. Like, that's the first time I really kind of heard rap. That's what, Robert DeValle and Sean Penn, right? Yes, yes. And then a bunch of black guys. And they were singing rap and stuff. And I remember, you know, no colors, colors, you know, that whole thing. That's ice tea, I think.

Who? Ice tea, some colors, I think. Okay. Yeah, no, I know, I know, and I know ice tea because, um, law and order. He was in law and order. Still. And I know Ice Cube, because he was the one that was the, uh, the F the police, right? He was definitely the police.

I remember that was a big deal. It was a big deal when I was growing up. I was like, like that and Ellen DeGeneres kiss in another woman on TV. Like what is like cats and dogs living together, bro? It was insanity. Like what's happening with the world? I wish we could go back to Ellen DeGeneres making out. Like that's like that's how insane this is.

So girls are still boys at least. You're a very knowledgeable fella. But I think I found where it comes a little short is the rap history. Well, yeah. I mean, you can't, you can't know everything. you have to, you know, we've got to pick and choose what you want. It's like,

do I know U.S. history or do I go or, you know, rap songs and I went with World War II documentaries. Yeah, you would be better for that than I. I'm going to know the rap. I mean, Tupac was great. Vicki was great. Those were two of the biggest names.

And arguably like when I was young, that kind of set the tone to where you realize that a lot of people take this a lot serious than music you know because at the time that was two of the biggest and probably what i was they're the best rappers ever to both die because of a if you want to look at it according to this book because of ditty's extracurricular activities that allegedly set all this in motion so it's it's it's i mean it's sad both of those guys are very young and they probably could have had long careers like tupac still one of my foul still played two park songs in his day i was listening to garth brooks the other day you know friends in low

places and i thought you know it's a classic but i i know what you're saying like uh you know you you reach back for the but nobody's writing anything about garth brooks and he's still alive oh he's still alive you got to get something written about you nowadays you got to have you got to have a tragedy yeah not a lot of country singers end up you know getting you know getting, getting shot. And let's, I shoot themselves a lot. Sometimes they're cleaning a gun, they'll lose a toe. All right, listen, we got to go.

I got to go. We got to wrap this up. You got to go. We got to get out here. Edit this. Colby's going to edit this and try and get this out like tomorrow. Yes. Did he?

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