Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - DIRTY COPS Get Set Up (POLICE EXTORTION)

Episode Date: June 21, 2025

Ryan shares his story and how he was set up by the police, and how he flipped the script on their plan to extort him. See articles on the aftermath of the sting:1. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2013/09/27/west-palm-beach-corrections-officer-arrested-on-extortion-charge/2. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/state/2017/03/27/prison-lieutenant-gets-three-years/7141394007/Follow me on all socials!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matthewcoxtruecrimeDo you want to be a guest? Fill out the form https://forms.gle/5H7FnhvMHKtUnq7k7Send me an email here: [e-mail] you want a custom "con man" painting to shown up at your doorstep every month? Subscribe to my Patreon: https: //www.patreon.com/insidetruecrimeDo you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopartListen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox Check out my true crime books! Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCFBent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TMIt's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5GDevil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3KBailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel!Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WXIf you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here:Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69Cashapp: $coxcon69

I'm at work one day where I'm doing a weekly business report and all of a sudden the two officers show up at work. Put me in the van. I pluck the 90 out of my wallet and they're like, go back in there and get us some more fucking money and you're going to jail right now. I'm walking out at 545 and as I'm like probably almost a block away, a white van comes up on me. And it's these two motherfuckers in a state van in uniform at 545 in the fucking morning when they should not even be on shift yet. And they're like, get in the van. And I'm like, dude, the guy, Officer Brown, was sitting behind me. If he tries anything funny, wrap that seatbelt around his neck and strangle his

n'b. Born in West Palm, pretty, like, working class. Like, all my buddies' dads were trades guys, and my mom was a nurse. The first few years, my life was, like, fairly normal-ish. You know, like, my dad's a... Probably hear more about this, like, throughout the podcast, but, like, my dad's nut. and so biker

like big gangster biker dude from up north with wild friends like I just my buddy cabin and I were just talking about like all these things growing up that like for me like it was just normal or at I thought it was normal

you know I didn't realize that other kids didn't grow up with guns all over their house you know other kids didn't uh their biker family and stuff didn't like Like, pretty much lock all the kids in a room to watch, like, videos while their parents were doing blow and whatever else, like, party. And most normal kids didn't open a fridge and there's not a 380 pistol in the fridge. That's just like the fridge gun, the couch gun.

The, like, I'm not even joking. I wish I was joking, but I'm not. Right. Like, that's just how I grew up. And I was taught from such an early age that, like, you don't put the firearms. Like, every gun in this house is locked and loaded. That's not a toy. Like you don't with it

But there's guns all over my house Like literally in the couch In the fridge In the cupboard In a cereal box Like all over my house Is this paranoia Or is this just because of like drug activity

Or there's so many So many All the above buddy All the above Part paranoia part just doing dirt And stuff My father I know there was like some scam

With these motorcycles They were like buying this Buy a motorcycle from a place So this happened when I was five or so it was right before my parents got divorced they bought this these motorcycles from like an independent dealership and somehow they figured out that they were like kind of fucking them on interest somehow because it was like a buy here pay here and so they don't loan shark us we loan shark you type of thing right so they first they step to the guy we're like listen like we're not letting this

fly and then the guy was a wannabe gangster too and he's like oh you and they're like okay And so somehow basically devised this scheme where, like, there was, like, three or four other guys, my dad and Uncle Steve. I called the guy, my Uncle Steve, and a couple other guys, like, basically, they all stole each other's motorcycles, you know? Right. And somehow, like, pinned it on the dealership, like, that he came and took their shit. And it became this whole big thing, like, so my dad took my Uncle Steve's motorcycle, Uncle Steve, took my dad's motorcycle, and then there are other. buddy disco joey took um disco joey i swear to god is yeah disco joey they had the greatest nicknames they really did like there was my dad they called bear there was disco joey um two fingers

charlie like i swear it just like the funniest nicknames ever it was really an art for him kind of like yeah like disco joey who comes up with that but um at any rate like um they they end up stealing each other's motorcycles and somehow it got it got pinned on this guy or aragonie i think his name was if i remember correctly somehow another contract got put on my dad's head so like when i was like five years old um we're living at this house in coral gardens and stewart um and i'm like i had a doberman i had just gotten for my fifth birthday his name was spike and he's just going nuts late night one night it was like 10 11 o'clock at night dogs just going nuts and i'd come out of my room into like the living room to kind of see what Spike was going nuts about and my dad was there and you know like I said

there's guns everywhere I'm it's late so my dad's already paranoid he knows there's a price of hit out on him so he's like go back in your room and of course being a little kid I didn't go back in my fucking room and um he's walking outside like with his hand on his hip because he's got a gun on him and so um he opens the door and I was standing not 20 feet away as soon as he opens the door a guy puts like a little uh I think was a 25 revolver in his face and pulls the trigger, and it just goes click. Which for a revolver to not fire is like nuts that it didn't fire, but it just goes click. And my dad, like, startled, like before the guy could even pull a trigger again, my dad was startled,

but in that split second, before he could even get his gun all the way out, he just kind of swept the guy's hand down. And the guy got off, you know, bucked off another shot. And that hit my dad in the ankle. And when that hit my dad in the ankle, my dad had already had his gun out by then the dude already turned tail and ran and my dad bucked off a couple shots at him and i know he at least winged him like in the shoulder or something the dude hauled ass that's all at least happen right fucking front of me um and so uh just cops and but and then my dad like even though he's shot

in the ankle he was a tough mother he like came back in the house locked up the house and then like now he's like assembling his arsenal and like i'll just never forget the cops coming like shortly thereafter and then just being like what the ff because we had this big wooden kitchen table and he just had like all sorts of shit laid out nowadays it's a lot of guys in Florida especially like they've got AK-47s and ARs and stuff but like in the early early 90s it wasn't as popular

right you know so he's got like the AK and AR you know stuff that you have to have special licenses to have and the cops are like what the like what in the other like you want like medical attention and he's like it's through and it's like bleeding but he's got setting up all his guns and stuff I just it's just one of those things that like pivotal moment. Him and my Uncle Steve sent myself, my mother, and my sister up to Connecticut to get

the fuck out of Dodge for a while. That was kind of like my baptism into the kind of like shit that my dad got into. And I was too young to understand a lot of it, but that was kind of like, I understood that, you know, I'd been watching, even though it was only five, I'd been watching enough like John Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagall movies to like know that some shit was going down. So that was like the beginning. You know, so without, getting too bogged down in the details like I grew up like that my parents got divorced like not all that long after my mother remarried like in fairly short order another good story though is um as as they were getting divorced my dad was

getting all the shit out of the house so my mom was a career nurse um she at that point had already been a nurse for like 25 years he was getting all the shit out of the house pretty much and he had very little left my mom was like making my sister and I dinner and I just remember she was just like like on vinyl listening the music like my mom was drinking tequila while she was making us dinner and she was pissed and her and my dad were like high school sweetheart they were together forever so her fucking life's falling apart and um got these two young kids and not a happy camper put it that way so my dad was coming that night to get a few things of his so he shows up there and my dad just like you know my mom

mom is special so he brought um a domestic standby cop with him just in case if that tells you anything about my mom so the biker is concerned yeah yeah yeah so my mom's just like this little 411 irish woman but she's fucking nuts he just wanted to like dip things in the bud whatever whatever so he shows up knocks on the door and he's like hey you know charlie i'm here to get my whatever and she um gives him like a box of shit or whatever and he's like hey tarley like Like, I need the fridge gun, like, literally the fridge gun. He was like, I need the fridge gun, too. And she's like, oh, mother-f-she's like, wait outside.

Like I said, she'd been drinking. My sister and I were in there eating, but, like, I realized my dad was there. So when she went and grabbed the fridge gun, it was like this little 380 used to keep in the fridge. She went to, like, grabbed the 380 out of the fridge and, like, starts walking over to the door. And I follow her because I want to see my dad. You know, I'm like six. And my dad's still my hero. you know, he's fucked up.

Like, I don't know at that time. So I'm, like, kind of following behind my mom. And, like, as soon as we get out into my driveway, my dad's, like, in the middle of the driveway. And my mom's like, you want your fridge gun, motherfucker? Here you go. And he throws it at him. And my dad, like, does, whoa, like, catches it right here,

like, point it up at him. Well, there was an empty lot next to our house. And the cop, for whatever bright idea I reason, instead of parking right in front of our house, so she knew he was there. he parked down by the empty lot and walked up through the empty lot she never saw him so when she threw that gun out of my dad catches it like i said everything was always locked and loaded um he comes up behind my mom and just barry hugs her so my mom thinks it's just like one of my dad's buddies or some shit right so my dad had taught her like a little bit of self-defense stuff and um she like stomps on his instep elbows him turns around knees him in the nuts and punches him and i'll know forget her like when she punched him as soon she punched him she went oh fuck she realized it was a cop right and he dropped mind your little four foot 11 woman she dropped him and um she's like

oh so like they knew that officer was down and like tons of cops now like this is really only like nine months after my dad got shot there mind you always cost my mom gets a battery on leo immediately loses her license i was going to say she's a nurse yeah immediately he loses her nursing license like that really turned our our lives upside down because she made good money you know she was an o'er room nurse too like really good at her job so she went from like having this good career you know known at all the hospitals locally and stuff and all the doctors wanted her for their surgeons rather for their operations to like she went to cleaning houses wow you know yeah so like overnight and so like she didn't even get a chance to work for like another month or two while she's fighting the case like she's done as soon as the arrest happened she was done so um and she was in jail for a few days or whatever, got her out and she ended up getting, she's never been in trouble a day in her life either.

I think she ended up getting like 10 years probation, 10 years felony probation for it. The funny parallel about this story is that cop who got beat up by this 4-11 woman. Fast forward to when we were in middle school. Guess who's my school resource officer? The cop my mom beat the shit out of.

I'm sure it had nothing to do with that. Yeah, and all, Well, yeah, no, they busted his ass to school resource. Like, yeah, you're going to deal with kids. Yeah, yeah. You got beat up by a 4-11 woman. Like, she need him in the nuts so hard, one of his nuts went into his stomach.

Like, that's how hard she need him. Like, as soon as he figured out, like my mom was picking me up one day, and he figured out that she was my mom, nonstop harassment after that, for me. Oh, okay, I thought you. You know what I mean? And I was already, like,

I was already fucking up by the time I was in middle school, you know? I had already been some. smoking weed and stuff so like I got arrested the first time in seventh grade for um possession of like not even a bull pack of reefer as like the dumbest thing ever but I got arrested for that um I was on drug court when drug court first started and I just remember my dad being like this is such a money grab like this is ridiculous and so like after the incident happened my mom I lived I stayed living with my mom and my stepfather Alan and then like his time went on years went on I kind of go

back and forth between my mom and my dad and my mom as you can imagine going from being a career nurse to cleaning houses like we were poor you know um like poor poor and so and then you know I go back and forth between my mom my dad and middle school when I did finally get arrested that first time I was living with my dad and just so happens at the time started like doing pills for the first time like that young you know um and my dad was always like that was also one of his things he was always like selling pills like always so um and he had like a lot of legitimate reasons to get pills so my dad was always like selling pills and shit i just grew up around and did and i had one of those one like i'm like man i got a raging migraine pops like here take this and

it's like a 10 325 percocet you know what i mean yeah you slept for two days yeah no i got high as fucking was like this is the best thing ever oh you know um i thought percissets were like um oxies now they they don't it's the same drug it's oxycodone And it didn't make you sleepy? No. I just got high as a kite, you know, and... I thought oxies made you. Don't do oxies...

They can, depends on you. I don't know enough about it. It depends. Like, I would just say, like, I'm my father's son, so, like, I was, like, somehow born with his tolerance. Some people would take their first, you know, 10 milligram perkinset and just get wrecked or, like, go to sleep. I just, like, fought it and stayed awake,

and I just got wrecked and was like, this is the best thing ever. I feel like I have, like, a warm loaf of bread baking in my chest. chest right here like that fucking euphoria of like taking opiates whenever somebody asked me what it's what it's like that's what i tell them i'm like just imagine you have like a loaf of homemade bread baking in your chest and like everything feels great the world is great everything is great i'm like that's the way it feels or imagine like john travolta and pulp fiction like driving in the convertible like you know you know the scene the famous scene like either one of those like

that's what when it when doing opiates is good when you're not a up and strung out like that's what it feels like so anyway around that time i like done pills for the first time and um because of my age like that was around the time that like oxycontinent stuff was first coming out and whatnot too now he had given me a percassette like at some point in time for like a headache and i knew i liked him immediately you know i was already smoking weed too but like i knew i like that shit immediately and um he was also selling oxy at the time that was oxy 80s oxy 160s when those were still a thing before they got banned and all that stuff um and so started dabbling with like doing oxy and whatnot got arrested for the pot

started going through probation for the pot um and then while i was on probation for the pot i ended up getting in a fight with my sister's boyfriend and some of his friends and um getting arrested for that like a battery or some shit so that violated my drug court and i don't remember what they did to me for that i think it just like extended my drug court or something and then fast forward a little bit farther. Like now I'm in like, I'm only in like eighth grade too, which is like after this.

That was seventh grade. I'm in eighth grade now. And, um, my dad would get wrecked and like on the weekends, I would like just steal some of his pills, you know, and then I go over my buddy's houses

and we'd fucking get high. So at one point, it was like a weekend. I was at my dad's house. Um, at that point I was in the back living with my mom. And I like stole a bunch of pills from my dad, like methadones.

oxies, roxies, um, somas, valiums, whatever, just a friggin smorgas board of pills. And I brought him over my buddy Kevin's house. And, um, brought him over his house and, uh, you know, we're all just getting wrecked on the weekend or whatever. And then like, I think I came home that night from his house and I was up. Like, I, like, kind of bounced into the entertainment center at my house. And when that happened, um, in the very next morning I was like waking up to go to school,

I was not going to go to school. I was going to skip school. I don't remember where I had the pill stashed, but I must have fallen asleep with them either in my pocket or, like, stashed, like, on my groin or something. And when I woke up in the morning, vaguely remember my mom, like, my mom finding them somehow. And I'm being, like, all crying, like, what are these other than I'm just like,

but I don't really remember because I was half asleep. I end up, like, going to school, but I skipped school. I ended up hanging out with everybody Kevin and his older brother and a scroll little Vanessa and a couple other people and we skip school and we just take pills and we don't f*** up all day

and just like laid around all f*** up I come home I come home from school later in the day my sister's there for some reason my sister's like

four and a half years older than me come in act like everything's normal I like get a cookie and like something to drink and my sister just like out of nowhere I was like I love you and like starts crying and then I just knew me

I'm like what the fuck did you guys do I'm like what did you do Like, it also, the memory of my mom finding my shit kind of dawned me. I'm like, what did you guys do? And my mom, like, gave me this bullshit story that, like, well, I didn't know what those pills were. So I took them to the pharmacy to get identified. And then, like, they call the cops and the, uh, and she was like, so, like, I didn't, I'm

sorry, like, I didn't blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, bullshit. I'm just like, what the f***? So what did you do? She's like, well, I told them they're yours. And like, I'm like, oh, God. I'm like, you f***y. I'm like, fuck.

I didn't talk to my mom like that even though she's a psycho like it's always like nice to my mom but like when she did that I'm like first of all I don't buy that story at all right like you're been a nurse for 25 years you know you lost your license a while back like you know how to figure out what the fuck those were you don't yeah to go to the pharmacy you know you didn't have to go to the pharmacy number one number two I don't I don't buy that but like she's such a the word narcissist gets thrown around so much these days I hate using that word because every chick out there nowadays is like my ex was a narcissist and da da da da like And you're like, no, no, that doesn't mean what you think that means. He was just an asshole. He was just an asshole. He was a garden variety asshole. But my mom is the textbook female narcissist, like in every sense of the word. And a manic depressive, like so super high mania and then super low lows. So, but like also loves to be the center of attention, the savior or whatever.

So like when she said, oh, I had to get them identified or whatever, like, that's all bullshit. She just wanted to be like, I'm saving my son's life. Like, look, look at me and how, like, it's not that serious, bitch. So anyway, like, no sooner did this little conversation happen. There's cops. They come to arrest me. So I get felony drug charge over this. How are you?

I was 13 at this time. Wow. So, now, so far I'm 13. I've got a possession of under 20 that I was on drug court for. I got a battery. from my on my sister's boyfriend drug court still for and then now i've got a possession of controlled substance without a prescription third degree felony so i go i do 21 days in the juvenile detention center um how was that sucked juvenile it's gladiator school man right i was to say

you're a big guy though yeah i was already pretty big by that time but i was not i hadn't like hit my growth spree because i was still pretty young you know so i was like you're also a kid and you know 17 year old kid is different than a 13 year old kid oh yeah so like I'm young too to be in there so like and I was like I was big but not tall yet like I was like um it was probably like 200 pounds but probably only like five something like five and a half feet maybe maybe less um and so I went in there and it sucked you know I fought every day especially being a white boy I fought every goddamn day because it's a few counties up there it was like You have Martin County, like the whole 19th Judicial Circuit goes to the same juvenile justice center.

So you have like Martin County, St. Lucie County, Indian River County, and Okachobi County all converge. So it's all very cliquey and all that. You know, and Martin County is small. So like there was like me and a couple black dudes that I was, I do them from school. It's like me, a kid named Sebastian Hill and Robert Norwood. We all knew each other from school. So like if it was like us versus them, we could fight together against them. Right.

And sometimes it would be like a head up thing. didn't do nothing but make me worse you know because i already had a bad fucking temper i could already fight so you know in some ways like some ways i kind of liked the fighting and stuff but i did 21 days there i got out and i knew i was going to be get sent to a program oh you ever had anybody on that talked about like the juvenile justice programs in the state of florida back in the day um i mean john boziac i wrote a book about him and him going in and out of the programs Yeah. Also, I was going to say I was, you ever heard of the case, cash for kids? Yeah, I was the judge. Up north with the crooked judge. Yeah, I was in, I was, I was, uh, in prison with him.

Really? Yeah. The judge. Yeah. There were two judges. There was two, right? There were two. He got like 25 years. Deserved it. Yeah. He deserved it. He, and he was super arrogant too. Every time I talked to him, it was funny is one time I went to him to ask him, because some of the things, Bozac had said seemed like it just seemed like there's no way it works like that and and Bozak had said yeah he had gone to

he'd been sentenced to like this this it's it's in Florida sentenced to this program and he explained the program and then he basically he and another kid plotted how to get out of the facility and escape and they escaped then he got picked up again

and they put him in another one he escaped from there and then they caught him again and they just stuck him in a in a and basically a homeless center for teens and I said that doesn't make sense he goes what do you mean I said you don't get to escape prison right twice and then they say you know what you don't even have to go anymore just sleep here during the day right right and I said that doesn't make sense because that's what they did so I went and I asked the judge and I approached him we were walking the track and I went to say hey I have a question for you and I said you were a juvenile like you know judge he's like he got real stiff yeah

why and I was like no no I say I mean I understand you you were here on a case thing I said but I'm writing a book and I explained it to him I never forget when I said the second time I go the second time he told me they just told him look here's a homeless facility you can stay at for kids right and that was it I said they just like and I explain you don't just escape twice and they give up on you and he goes well how many resources do you want the state of Florida to put into this kid he's a bad kid or you try and keep a roof over his head wait till he's 18 you can stick start sticking them in federal prison or you can start sticking them in state prisons he's but until then he's just can't keep throwing money at this kid and i thought he sounded so brutal and we're talking about like a 14 year old kid like you give up on a 14 year old kid yeah it's nuts man i i just so i'm so i so whatever you're going to say trust yeah talked to actually at the what i what i started to get at was like the djj programs that almost all of my boys went to all of my all the homies I grew up with we all went to them every single one of us we all went some for longer than others but we all went to at least

one I went to two technically three sort of so after I got that felony charge I did my 21 days I got out I want to say before I went to my actual program program I was able to like get a rehab and I went to this rehab center called data in Fort Pierce. 2001, matter of fact, 9-11 happened while I was there. That's like one of the things that sticks out in my memory. So I'm there, 9-11 happens,

and the place sucked. It just sucked. The place sucked. It was co-ed, so there were some hotties that were like across the hall. That was cool. And they were always throwing us their tits and stuff, so that that was cool.

But other than that place sucked. Especially, again, I'm like 13 or whatever in that place. Yeah. So, you know, and everybody else's like, 17 like last last resort before you're adult right thing so I forget what I some I did some scheme to get out of their half ass like cut my wrist so I didn't cut them I like barely scraped right and um but they have to take it super serious yeah like they had like bag racked me and like they sent me to like a Columbia health pavilion down in um west palm and I just like sit there for like

three days, get out. And then I was like, well, if you send me back there, I'm going to kill myself. And lo and behold, it worked. Right. Because part of what they kept trying to do was, like, reinstate my drug court, reinstate my drug court. Because then, like, because my parents were having to, like, help me pay for my drug court. And it was expensive, dude, because it was like, every time I'd get in more trouble,

it was like, well, you need to have a one-on-one counseling session once a week. And then you've got to do a drug test for $75. And you got to do this. You're going to do that. You're going to do that. You're going to do this. So when I was like, oh, you're sending me back there and kill myself or whatever. They're like, fine, we're just going to turn all your probation to, like, regular probation.

No more drug court, no more, like, record, right, clean. I'm like, my record pretty much gets wiped clean when I'm 18 anyway. But I violated for some reason. I don't remember why. And then once I violated for that, they sent me back for 21 more days in the juvenile detention center. And when I got out from the violation, they're like, listen, you're waiting on a bed at a level six juvenile justice commitment program. It's going to be six to nine months or six months to a year. Don't know where you're going to go in the state of Florida.

you're going somewhere though I'm like okay and I waited like I was technically on like home detention so I didn't have an ankle monitor but I was like pretty much pretty much like community control probation right so I waited like a month and some change and um I get sent to uh this place in Orlando called ATC there was two in Orlando one called ATC one called ARC so it's a ATC was a ATC was adolescent therapeutic center which was like um they like like coined it like a dual diagnosis, blah, blah, government funded bullshit, you know what I'm saying?

They've got like counselors, you got to do like groups every day and blah, blah, blah. And, um, but in reality, like, yeah, you had like counselors and you had groups and stuff, but like in reality, you also had like a lot of big ass grown men working in that motherfucker who f*** us up. Like if we got out of line, if we got into fights or whatever, I mean, big dudes.

I saw kids get their arms broken, teeth through their lips and stuff, like, half the guys that worked there for some reason were like these, I don't know why, but like big, like black dudes that played like European League basketball or semi-pro football or whatever. There was one guy, Mr. E.J. was like 610. I watched him like sky high a number of 13, 14, 15, 16 year old kids like just like just fuck us up, breaking their arms and stuff. And they get away with it because we're all words of the state at the time. And the one time I saw them do anything was there was this Jewish kid. I don't remember his name. I just remember he was Jewish because he had, like, you wore the Yamaka. They f*** that kid up, and they fucked up and they fucked that kid up.

All right. He got an emergency release. Like, five days later, he was gone. He was out. I'm pretty sure his dad was a lawyer and shit. Like, you know, he'd gotten in enough trouble to get into a program, but, like, they put his teeth through his lip and broke his wrist. and five days later he was out, emergency release, bye-bye. And he told him, like, as soon as they did that,

he, like, laughed at him, and he's like, you f***ed up. He's like, I'll be out of here in a couple days, watch. And his dad, like, got an injunction and this and that and the other and then pulled him right out of there. I don't know how exactly he pulled that off, but he did. Right next to SeaWorld in Orlando, which was, like, the great irony. Like, you'd go take out the trash and C-roll's right there, and all the little, like, you'd be in the Chow Hall,

and all little happy families would go in C-World, and you're, like, a ward of the state over here, like crazy so i was there and so like you have like this sounds fucking stupid that place was like you have like levels you have to go through to like graduate and stuff and it's like orientation commitment change maintenance transition so orientation is like your first two two weeks commitment is your commitment to change right change is actually doing the change well maintenance is maintaining the change and then transitions getting out. But the thing is, is like, all of these programs in the state of Florida,

they're not time dependent. It's behavior dependent. Yeah. There's dudes in that fucking program for 20 months. All right. That's a juvenile, dude. Like, that's not okay. You don't lock up a young teenager for doing whatever,

and most likely he's got all sort. He's not committing to the program. Of course not. He's just getting his program restarted over all the time. I mean, that was how they would get you. Like, oh, you got into a fight, start it over. It's a six-month process, minimum, if you're perfect the whole time. So, like, that kid's name was Antonio Allen.

I'll never forget his name. And he just, like, would start the program over and over and over again. Finally, like, at the time I was there, he was approaching being there 20 months. And they're just like, get the fuck out of here, kid. And he got out. So I was there, like, a little while. And so if you'd get in trouble, you'd get put on this thing called contract, which is like a behavior contract, stupid bullshit.

I got put on contract for, like, mumbling something under my breath about this one asshole, like, guard person. I've been there about three months. I was, like, just getting to the change phase, this dude that I was, like, I thought I was friends with, at least. Ended up, like, punching me in my shit. And, um, I thought he was joking. Man, just touch me. Just touch me.

Like, I'll fuck you up. And I, like, I thought he was joking because he would joke like that. I literally, like, touched him like that. And then he, like, freaking two pieces me, Bing, Bing, and I'm like, what the fuck? Like, he actually, like, punched me. And there was, like, all these guards around. It was kind of a check-in move.

There's all these guards around. So, like, I'm like, all right, motherfucker. But he had, like, bony-ass hands. And he, like, he actually broke my, like, my orbital because he hit me, like, right on the edge of my eye. And so, and I didn't hit him back. Because there was, like, it was a check-in move. I'm like, all right, motherfucker.

And the next day happens, my eyes, like, and, like, they're asked me, like, oh, who did that to you? Oh, I fell. I didn't realize that that hallway did have cameras and they knew it was this other kid, Cornelius Anderson. And they're like, damn, Nini did that to you? And I'm like, I'm not saying, you know. So they like put him in trouble at first. And then I went to, you used to have to go to a staffing meeting once a month. I didn't get any trouble because I didn't get him back. And when I was in the freaking staffing meeting, like the one like program

manager, this guy, Mr. Washington was a real piece of shit. I thought he was a tough guy. Like he came in there and was like, hold on because I was gonna be going to be going to that change phase, like I said. He was like, hold on, hold on. He needs to be put on behavior contract and started over and they're like, why? He like literally didn't hit the kid back. And they're like, cause he like rolls

the video footage and shows like the part where I like touched his hand. He's like, see, see you right there? And I'm like, I thought he was fucking kidding around. Like we were friends. And he's like, yeah, but you put your hands on him and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me right now? Like are you like

really and like even some of the other people are like that's a stretch became this thing that like I'm like getting favorited so they they literally put me on contract and started my program over so I'm like so you're starting me over you started me over I'm like okay and I immediately walked out of there and went and that kid up I like that was my first mission I'm like you're going to start my program over like I'm going to go attack that mother immediately and I did and I blindsided him because when he hit me I was not expecting it at all right um he was like sitting there writing a letter to somebody and i just ran upon him and beat the shit out of him and then i got fucked up by the we both got fucked up by the guards they literally

slammed me so hard in the bathroom they somehow slammed my big ass in between the toilet and the wall i don't know how the fuck i ended up there but i was in between the toilet and the like a pretzel and um they f*** me up but i was like hey at least if my program's restarting it's for a reason so then i restarted and then did my program got out of out like six months later or whatever so I ended up doing nine 10 months as a you know 14 15 year old I was already 15 my time I got out um all it did was honestly make me worse you know all it was like making me better at fighting there was a ex-boxer that worked there who actually became a mentor to me i still talked to him occasionally his name's pinklin thomas he fought tyson in his prime

one of the best jabs ever and uh also one of the most epic Tyson knockouts ever like sorry pink but um he takes like if you ever look up the pinkman thomas knockout he takes like nine full fucking power shots from Tyson just bing bang bang the guys just got a chin meant of granite you know right and like the fact that he took that many shots you're just like he'd find guys that he liked like either the aptitude or the attitude or work ethic or whatever and he'd train you now he was one of those guys so and then also just like going to the detention center like glide like you're you're going to be a bitch or you're going to learn how to fight right because like especially when you're like that's like glad

to get her school type shit like you're going to fight unless you check in and then eventually you're like hopefully at least if you fight enough like if you weren't going to fight you before you're going to get better um especially because like guys aren't really stabbing themselves each other like that because it's we're jitterbugs we're kids yeah um anyway so then like pink trained me and stuff and like made me just be a little smarter about how I did shit and whatnot and I got out and I was like man I don't want to go back I don't want to like do any more bullshit and I stayed out of trouble for a couple years once I got off probation and said like I started I started like smoking weed again when I got off probation and all that

I said I graduated high school like a year later um and uh you know my mom was very much like you're your dad or stepdad or whatever like my mom was like you're 16 you're graduated from high school you're working full time like you're paying rent and uh-da-da-da and like obviously as a 16-year-old young south florida kid like mainly my whole life was like work chase pussy and smoke weed and shit like that's it you know period and um so and then surf and stuff when i could you know but mainly work in chase pussy my mom is like nuts like i said and um but also very like Catholic in some ways and like my mom is so it's such a weird like dichotomy because my mom is like on one hand like I don't care if you smoke weed or whatever if you're like off probation like

or like or like whatever like even when I was like fairly young god forbid if you have a girl over at this house right a girl is paying rent yeah I was paying rent yeah I was paying rent exactly and that that was my therein lies the rub right like bitch I'm paying you 500 bucks a month to live at home and like um hello It just was always funny, like, a girl is not, like, could have, like, a girl over, but, like, the door better not be locked and, like, you know what I mean, typical shit. Like, and, like, she is not staying the night at this house, period.

And I'm like, this is bullshit. I'm, like, paying your rent, like, this. So I moved out, like, young and pretty much never looked back after that. But it's just always been funny to me, like, that's the hell you're going to die on, lady. Like, like, I can do fucking drugs. I can do this. I can do that.

But, like, like, having a girl over. So, like, oftentimes, like, if I needed to, like, have a girl, like, stay in the night or whatever, I'd go to Kevin's house, actually, because I just have her stay over at Kevin's house with me until I moved out of my own. Moving forward a little bit, like, I graduated high school and stuff, and, um, somewhere, like, before I turned 18, I got arrested again for some pot, dump bullshit. And, um, because... You find a lot of these arrests and... punishments bullshit but you keep bringing them on your I know I know I know I take responsibility for me they're still we're talking under 20 grams of in pot I I hear you like and you're going to send me to another in juvenile program for it that's that's what happened mind you I was like

weeks before my 18th birthday I get called with under 20 a pot and instead of like putting me on juvenile probation or whatever they send me to another level six program bro for fucking six to nine months. Right. I'm graduated from high school, working full time, living on my fucking own, and you're going to send me

to a program with a bunch of kids? What the fuck? Right. What am I going to possibly do at that program? You know? So they send me there. I had to like bring all my shit

back to my mom's house because I'm going to lose my place and I had to go back to this place for like six months. I completed that program because again, I was older than everybody. Like I was already 18.

By the time the program had a bed open, I was over 18. A lot of people don't know that like for, juvenile shit in the state of Florida they will yeah what can it go up to 19 depending on for me like someone who's like a level six and not classified as a show cap with show cap is a serial serious habitual offender you can be 19 for something that's when their jurisdiction ends if your show cap it would be

21 yeah how upsetting it is that you know all these things and you've got the an acronym down I know he's like he's got it inside now you could be a counselor yeah I thought about it They just don't make enough money. I'm happy that a lot of those programs have gotten shut down because, dude, that's a whole other podcast into itself. What about the one? What about the one that where they were killing people? What were they were killing the kids? Which one?

Is it a White House or something? What would they call it? When I mentioned it in a program, I got like six or seven people telling me, oh, you're talking about the such and stuff where they found all the bodies buried like a hundred or something. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I know. Yeah, the one in Miami or whatever. Yeah, it's definitely South Florida for sure. Yeah, it's self-floor. Florida.

Yeah, and I had all these people saying, oh, you're talking about the such and such house, or you're talking about they called it the White House. They called it the- Yeah, Miami Boys Home, I think it was or something like that. Well, then also you're talking, um, anybody that watches this that did programs back in the day, like Eckert Youth Development Center, EYDC, that was a level eight, Polk Academy, I think it was. OJOCC, Ocichobie, Juvenile Justice, something rather.

Here's something more fucked up if you were a show cap, right? If you got sent to a level eight program, you didn't get to go home from DJJ, like how I would get like those 21 days and go home and then wait for the program. Right. You didn't get to go home. There's no bond in the state of Florida

for juveniles or whatever. So you get sent in to a level eight, right? I remember like getting arrested in like, let's just using as an example, I don't know the exact months. Like a January, I get arrested. Go in and do 21 days. There's a dude in there

that's waiting on a level. late program. Well, I stay out for a few months, fuck around. I violate my program or violate my probation nine months later. So now we're talking September. I go back in for another 21. This motherfucker is still sitting there waiting to go to a level eight program, which is going to be nine to 12, 15 months. So he's, yeah, if he passes. If he if they don't restart him a bunch of times. He's already done that in the county jail. And he's already, yeah, he's already been sitting in in the juvenile justice thing for nine months

with no credit for time served no nothing waiting for that program to come get them and I watched that happen multiple time like even the guards were like

this is fucked up like we get sometimes guys waiting for a program for 12 months 16 months then they go to a program for 12 16 months if they do everything perfect

and get out like I watched it happen to some of my buddies too would rather just gone to prison better off or county jail or would like like just just holding these kids in there indefinitely so f*** up um anyway but like my own thing I end up going to that like second program I was like like 18 already and I completed the program like faster than anybody ever I think I was out in five and a half months like because they didn't know what to do with me they're like okay so like you'll

have class I'm like bitch I'm graduated from high school and have been for a few years and they're like well damn like what are we gonna do with you and like ultimately the conclusion they came to was like well we're gonna have you um just like walk around with the maintenance man and like fix shit we don't know what else to fucking do with you because they never had so many like me so like that's all I did for like the five and a half months I was there and then they're just like get out of here and I got out of that one um and then uh I got out of that one and then like ironically I got out like right before the jurisdiction ended um I was I had some probation when I got out too

and soon as I turned 19 the jurisdiction was done and I was done so anyway but like again like to send me away like that again for like a little bit of weed like it was we're talking like weed on my floorboard right type of thing too

that was I had this like Volvo station wagon the Catholic school cruiser just for the state like oh yeah just that you spent straight money grab man straight money grab for them because they're getting paid per per asses and beds you know what i mean it's just like if you look at the list of programs now it has shrunk so much but back then there was so many and most of them shut down and like the corruption was

just like ramp it like that's a whole our podcast be honest with you fast forward like 20 21 or whatever um i end up uh i start doing pills again like i had done them when i was younger and then when i went to that first program i told you about didn't touch another pill again until i was in my 20 20s. So, like, from the time I was, like, 13 and 14, like, I didn't touch them again until I was in my 20s. And I start doing pills again, um, just dabbling here and there. I'm doing pills and then I start going to the doctor to get them and all that shit. And I get tied into like, um, you know, all the fucking pain clinics that were around in the, in the earlier 2000s and earlier to mid 2000s, um, uh, pre-2010 or whatever,

all over South Florida. They were everywhere on everything. corner building out doctors offices for doctors like doing all the construction shit for them and they're you know else right the pill mills yeah yeah they're like instead of paying me in in cash for like my work they're like I'll write you a prescription for 240 blues every single day that you work for you and every person that works to any name you want so I'm like getting a prescription for 240 written my mom my sister whoever like I was running out of names right because it was better than getting paid cash right because I could turn around and flip them So, anyway, I'm, like, doing that, and I'm, you know, like, I was working full-time doing air conditioning.

It was, like, kind of a constant in my life from 16 on, like, I always did, I started doing air conditioning then, did it ever since. And luckily so, because it actually, like, in a weird way, like, provided me with, like, being able to live on my own and, like, have, like, that one good constant in my life. So, along the short, I ended up, um, just getting, like, really involved in the pills and shit after a while. I was dabbling at first and then got real involved after a while. So you're selling pills and you're working full-time. Yeah, working full-time. Right. Why sell pills and work full-time? I mean...

Oh, the money, man. The money was insane. And I was just like selling wholesale, too. The money was insane. And I like to get high, too, you know. But at that time, it wasn't just, like, support my habit type of thing. It was like the money was nuts. and everybody was on them, you know, and, like, basically at the time, I was, like,

me and one of my best friends had a house. I was working full-time doing air conditioning, selling pills. Kind of like a lot of my life was worked full-time selling pills and chasing pussy. Like, you said me and my buddy had a house. I immediately thought a fight club. I stood in the house that they had. We had this house. It was like, we literally called out of the animal house.

It was because, like, a lot of my other friends, I mean, we were talking, I had the house from like age of like 19 on and a lot of our other friends like just didn't work enough and didn't make enough to have their own place so it was just like constantly parties constantly house full of you know people dropping kegs and strippers and this and that like everybody showed up at our house after work they worked nights that all our friends that worked in the restaurant industry would show up after work with food and booze and whatever so just it constantly like even when we were trying to have a quiet night like next thing you know somebody pull up and be like

can we drop a keg here and I'm like no you can't know you're like no it's a Tuesday night no you're not dropping a keg here and they're like oh come on man and then like another car car pulls up and it's like six girls in the car and I'm like drop the keg yeah surprise I haven't gotten the keg out yeah exactly exactly um and I'm like as long as the ratios are good like we're good so and that happened constantly like I'm like no No, no. Wait, they're coming? Okay, come on. And so that was just like a constant thing and I just always had pills. Everybody's coming over and was selling pills and all the girls got on pills too. It was kind of crazy like how fast like all girls going on pills. They were all on Xanax back then. I stopped taking Xanax very, very young. I realized they were the devil. I think I was a teenager when I stopped taking them. I was like never again. I don't like blacking out to the point of not knowing what happened like and not being able to remember. So I stopped.

taking them very young but everybody else would take them those things were so cheap like a prescription of 60 of them was like 16 bucks back then so they were like water so i got like real involved of that and doctor shopping and stuff and my dad was doctor shopping with me and stuff and um your dad was oh yeah i like my dad is a character i mean you just the amount of things like here's a guy that like again like the things you think are normal when you when you grow up with fucked up family life like my dad he's also diabetic and so one time like Kevin was staying the the weekend of the night at my dad's house um with us and um the pizza guy came and my dad's like check this shit out my dad's huge man he's like six foot six two hundred seventy five pounds

it's a big that's why his nickname was bear you like takes his shirt off he's like this just big barrel chest at hairy motherfucker and he he pulled out one of his packs of syringes, and he's just like, boom, bum, bum, boom, boom, boom, boom. Just sticks, like, freaking 20 of them in his, like, chest and in his fucking, in his belly. And then he, like, goes to the door, and he's like,

he's like, uh, like, opens the door, and the guy's like, and the guy's like, what the fuck? And me and Kevin are like, ah, like, dying. And my dad's like, help, help. And the guy's like,

ah, like, just drops the pizza, and, like, and runs. And my dad just like, he's like, free pizza. And just, like that's the kind of shit that he would do like that same weekend he like at one point like these friends phil and ginger lived like diagonal across the street from us they were like a younger like she was a model and then phil was like surfer dude whatever and they would like buy

pills for my dad or whatever and at one point that weekend like we catch my dad like walking back from phil's house wearing in uh diving flippers like for his on his feet and a mask and a snorkel like walking down the fucking street from Phil's house and we're like Dad, what the fuck are you doing? And he's like, wher-br-br-br-br-br-br-br- and we're like, what the f-ha.

Like, Mark is so funny. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Like even that was like kind of cringy for me but Kevin was like dying like and I'm just like dude I'm like what like and again like you're a kid you think like dad's just a nut he's being silly.

Like no, he was just having a borderline psychotic break because he just does that many drugs and like just out there man shit like that like just over and over and over and over again like he'd always blame because he was diabetic he'd always blame like being all wrecked on

um oh I'm hyperglycemic I'm hyperglycemic you know and he'd be like trying to like keep um keep awake while driving so he'd slap his leg really loud I can't even duplicate the sound he would make he would slap his leg so hard it would be like my sister could tell you like now to both

of us it's like nails on the chalkboard like hearing that noise like like like oh and he like make up little songs to sing and shit like and everybody just like like oh your dad's so funny like yeah he's so funny like as you get older like that this is not fucking normal normal people don't do this normal dads don't like wake up at three o'clock in the morning and not out standing up while cleaning the house and also like making a gigantic pot of from scratch oatmeal and like wake you up with like a place setting and shit and it's like dad it's 3.15 in the morning and he's like well I made oatmeal

and I'm like what the dude what the fuck and just like constantly constantly and then some of the shit allowed me to do too just like again some of it I think maybe he thought I was going to do it out there in the wild anyway

whatever like I did ecstasy at like 13 for the first time somebody came to his house to like buy sold me to add some ecstasy and they're like I was there and he was just like I give your son a bean and he was like if he wants it and I like took a bean and then like rolling with a stripper

all night I'm like 13 you know and you're like dad's the fucking man I got to like take X and like roll with a stripper like yeah you know but like no like looking like as a especially as a father now I'm like yeah

what the fuck like this is not normal man and um it's just stuff like that like over and over and over again like so many things I can't even think of them all sometimes. Like, how many things? He's still around? Yeah.

Yeah. Surprisingly. He'd say that like, I know. Well, this is like the other thing about him is that like four heart attacks, two strokes. It's not going down. Shot several times, stabbed a couple times. He got hit by a mobile gas truck on a motorcycle and survived. He fell 30 feet inside of the nuclear reactor containment.

at this I swear to God I swear to God at the St. Lucie Nuclear Power Plant broke both legs both ankles both heels

spider web fractured his knees it's like f***ed himself up bad I mean he's much Homer Simpson in the yellow bubble suit yeah he's like sandblasting up there

steps from one scaffold to the other and in the plank of the scaffold goes who and he just falls straight down sues him that was his other thing was suing every

buddy. My dad sued Publix multiple times when Dixie multiple times at FPL which that one was actually legitimate you know that one that one was legitimate it was funny too because he should have got way more money and they kind of

fucked them a little bit like the surveillance video in one of the most secure places on the planet is inside those reactors and the security video vanished he sued the fucking Girl Scouts like again no joke because he's diabetic and they sold him cookies and they said it they were sugar-free

no um so he's at like this is i was real young at the time he's at like the gulf stream council of the girl scouts like pot luck dinner or something and he's got like this utility size tray of lasagna and he's just the way he tells the story now is like he's like well i was walking and i'm carrying the frigging thing it was like piping hot lasagna and i see like i look down at like the vinyl commercial flooring and I see like a puddle he's like and there was no wet floor sign or nothing I just I aimed for it and I just knew

what I had to do and he fucking Kevin's like it's not like it's the true like I've thought about like writing a memoir about it a few times because like there's so many so he he took a dive man and sold the shit out of it and his knees and shit were so bad

that he could just be like and Tara's ACL pretty much when he had legs that is um so oh yeah he lost both of his leg they're slowly been trimming him down or you're not not almost slowly when he still had a foot yeah and then at one point he's like drop the thing off fix it they did that then he lost the other one you know so like once they did this leg they put the kibosh on the other leg and then the diabetics like you know they they just

keep oh yeah the toes and it's half the foot that's kind of what that's kind of what happened yeah that's kind of what happened with the one foot he's like stop taking little pieces of me and just get far enough up up but yeah he like took a dive and like burn the fuck out of himself because he got all this piping hot lasagna on him and the funny part was like he would negotiate with the insurance companies a lot of the times he wouldn't get a lawyer he'd take a dive let the insurance company reach out to him and be like listen this could all go away for 50 grand you can if i can overnight me a check right now i'll sign to nda we'll be done and he did that over and over and over and over and over again

And he'd be like, you know, hey, there's a fucking puddle over there. There's a puddle over there. Like at Publix, he's like, Publix is good. I've sued them four or five times. He's like, they're good for the money. He's like their insurance company is great. He's like, uh, the adjusters can authorize up to 20. He's like, you know, 20 grand in less than 48 hours, you know?

He's a professional. Oh, yeah. He hasn't done it a long time now, obviously, because he lost his legs and shit. Well, it's hard to fake a slip and fall when you're... Exactly. Exactly. The legs are a big part of that. I mean, I suppose he could fall out the wheelchair, though, you know?

I'm not sure how, but it sounds like he'd pull it off. I'm sure there's a way. Yeah, I'm sure there's a way. He always says it's really just his hobby at this point. Yeah, he always says it was like Karmic because he would always like do that like Eddie Murphy bit like, oh, I have no legs and lost his fucking legs from it. But yeah, so like the point being is this is the kind of guy we're dealing with is when I'm talking about my dad. but like um so yeah he we were doctor shopping and shit together and um fast forward through some

time and um you know i'm doing more seeing more and more doctors and then i'm getting more and more f***ed up too like i'm starting to do more and more pills and you know eventually i end up with like a 30 40 pill a day habit you know um because i unfortunately inherited my dad's tolerance you know and um so i'm like doing like 30 40 pills a day and eventually i end up getting arrested for doctor shopping and that's what ultimately is it because of the the system or the no this is implement that system pre-system actually so this was 2008 when I got arrested um how did you get arrested just the pharmacy or no um so one of my buddies Greg he'd come buy pills from me like you buy like you know 50 pack 100 pack whatever and me just like trying to do him a solid I didn't live

in the best neighborhood at the time and he like always he worked during the day too and I would always try to like look out for him like listen like you're going to be driving home with a hundred pack or whatever I'm like I'm going to give these to you in my bottle case you get pulled over you can bike oh he's a co-worker he left it in here like we could beat that charge yeah easily if a minute you get home destroy this bottle destroy the label right well Greg's a slob and like he had this like little like a zoo zoo extended cab pickup and he instead of destroying the bottle he like got home like transferred them in into something else and threw him in the back

like a little extended cab with all along with like McDonald's rappers and all his other bullshit is one of those guys that happened like twice that I know of fast forward six or seven months later he gets pulled over by like the narcotics people and they tear a struck apart for his own shit that he's doing what are they fine two of my bottles and that's actually what started them investigating me

and they started going around to all the pharmacies and stuff and checking and looking into it and back in those days they really didn't have to have a subpoena or anything. They'd just go in there and strong on the pharmacy. We want this guy's records or we're going to brimba, right. They'd give him the records. That's actually like Rush Limbaugh,

when he got in trouble for that, that's one of the ways he challenged it. It was like, they didn't have a fucking subpoena. They should have never given you those records. Right. And had I known, then what I know now, I may have been able to beat mine to, maybe. I don't know. But at any rate, what they ended up finding was

I used to have a rule no doctors in Martin County. Where I live is Martin County is much smaller than Palm Beach or Broward. But for a little while, there was this guy, Dr. Valleff, in Martin County. It was just so goddamn convenient to have it in the same county, you know? And so, but what I would do is I would see Villef and I would go, I would drive all the way to Palm Beach County to go fill the script. Never fill Palm Beach or Broward County scripts in Martin County either. That was my other rule. Well, there was like one month, one month I was like going down and I had seen multiple doctors that day.

And like my last doctor that I saw, I was short on filling the script because they used to try to fill them in office if they had an in office dispensary. I had to borrow some money from somebody when I got back up to Stewart. And instead of driving back down to 45th Street, which is like, you know, almost an hour away, I was like, do that. And I took it to a pharmacy in Martin County and filled it. Well, these detectives, they went around talking to each pharmacy, talking to each pharmacy, talking to each pharmacy. and they find the one month that I happened to fill from Villef and fill from another doctor

and then that was all they needed because it was the same month and that's what constitutes doctor shopping at that time. Obtaining a prescription for a substance of like therapeutic value I think is the way the statute is written or something and once they got that one month

then now they know who the doctors are and they were able to like get me for the overlap which was like January, February, March, April in May, let's say, of a weight. Do you tell them about your high tolerance? No, no. I was like, but listen, I need like, and that wasn't even one my doctors. Oh, big guy.

Yeah, yeah, I'm a big dude, the fuck. So, yeah, they got me for five counts of doctor shopping for that. They actually originally charged me with trafficking too, kind of like that ghost weight type of thing, but they couldn't prove shit. If it was the feds, it probably would have been different. You know, they arrested me for it, and they offered me 18 months, and I was smart enough to know that that was a godfather deal, and I just took it. I knew I was like, I'm not going to even fight that 18 months.

I'll be in and out, done, you know. And I was at work release within like eight months or whatever, you know. So I went and did the time on that. And I knew I was going to prison too. So when they arrested me on the charge instead of bonding out on it, I just sat. I knew I was going to prison for it because I knew I had five counts. The trafficking got dropped. And then on the five counts I went and ended 18 months on that and then got out.

you. Shit, I would just turn 21 when I turned myself in. So when I got the arrest, sorry, but I knew a warrant was coming down, I should say, for the doctor shopping. Um, so I kind of, like, stayed like on the run for a couple months. I wanted to turn 21 on the street. And then once I turned 21, I was like, I'll turn myself in and get it over with, which I'm glad that I did because three to six months later, I had other buddies that got

doctor shopping and shit, and they started getting bamed on them. two years apiece and stuff on them so like I got lucky you know so I'm glad that I like had the foresight to turn myself in and I just didn't really want to be on the run forever because well you know what being on the run is like it's it sucks in a lot of ways you know and I didn't have your resources either so I was going to say the the doctor shopping you're going to multiple doctors like that even five like that could be I understand you're saying your your pill habit was insane so so so it's it's not as lucrative but i mean if you were just selling all those like that like each one of

those scripts is worth like 3500 bucks easy yeah yeah yeah no and i was selling a lot too and like the problem is just to have enough supply right because that's the problem i was also not a onesy-to-sie dealer either i was like you know you'd get a hundred or 50 or i have a few of my buddies like my good friends if they were strung out like i didn't want them like getting tax on them i'd sell i'd hook them up but I would never really want to be the guy selling onesy-to-sy yeah like I wanted to sell 50 packs hundred packs stuff like that and I had a couple connections that were getting them from like straight from the pharmaceutical company or wherever I don't know where they were coming from but I could get them in like great quantity a thousand at a time two thousand at a time but those were

not nearly as easy to find I had like a corrupt pharmacist that was pilfer in them and I'd buy like a thousand for three thousand from her but that wasn't consistent the only way you could like really consistently get a good supply was doctor shopping and sponsor people to go so multiple people were going for you and stuff yeah I wrote that book

Generation Oxy and yeah okay yeah that was Doug Doddy and he did the same thing you did one time he got pulled over with some pills and he was like it was barely any pills right and he ended up going to a buddy who had a script and said hey I need you to come in

here write an affidavit for my lawyer be willing to testify and his buddy was it's funny i don't think i even put this in the book but he said i actually paid him to do it he's like he said because he's like like when we wrote it he explained it to me but and i took the notes and then i wrote the wrote the story but then afterwards he's you know what's fucked up about that he's like reading that i said what you make it he just did it because i asked him he was he actually made me pay him and i was like oh you didn't mention that that would have been good right right right right and this is that's not he's you make it he make it sound like it's a nice guy doing a buddy of favor because it wasn't right no it was not pay to play yeah no I mean I get it I get it um it's just especially at that time and it was all over the state of

florida but south Florida where I'm front was the epicenter like it was big up here too Tampa and all that stuff he drove down there I think once or twice they ended up having a most people did yeah they had it there was one of the stores that was down there was it was like American pain was down there yeah and they ended up going and it was the same thing with doctor shopping he right buddy went and picked up like homeless people or or something or laborers or something i forget drove him there he's like you got to sponsor him you got to pay for an MRI you got to pay for like you're dumping a ton of money into this he goes and then you're dealing with these drug addicts the whole time like they don't want to give you they don't want to they want to they want to take off on you

they want to right yeah i tried to send people that weren't drug addicts yeah just normal people they wanted to make some money yeah he had a few of those but very they're hard to find very because they get hooked on the pills and they want more and more right right because you said addicts it's like they're going to try to figure out a way to go without you and all this other kind of shit so so we get 18 months i take the deal i go to joint i got lucky i didn't have to go to go to like a y o prison a youth youthful offender prison which is another just another level of gladiator school basically um i go to a regular prison i go to marian um which is up in uh ocala i was on the main unit for a couple months like way back in like what they call the t buildings and that prison's old is from the forties and i was in the very very very very back of the one T building and the T buildings are just like they sound like their T buildings and they're like this there's an officer station in the middle

there's an upper and lower tier that way upper and lower tier that way upper and lower tier that way well at this particular dorm I was in the upper tier was AC confinement so administrative confinement before you've been sentenced to confinement and then I was in the lower tier and that was just regular general population and I was in the very last room all the way in the end

and it's one of the oldest dorms, and there's a huge exhaust fan at the end of that hallway. And it's just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, just like very, like, um, like a movie you'd imagine like Carrie Grant or some shit from like the 40s or 50s is in, like, you know, yeah, I'm doing time in prison, see?

Like, just very, like, you know. But it was super laid back, to be honest with you. Like, if you know how to, because I'd done all the juvenile time, like I know how to do time. Right. You know, to stay the, my own business, stay the fuck out of some shit. Like, don't borrow money. Yeah.

Don't, yeah, be polite, don't talk about people. Respect, respect, respect, respect, you know. I didn't really have much problem and I'm not a pussy, so I'll fight for my shit if I need to. Right. But I'm not going to go looking for it either, you know, and I'm not in gangs or nothing. What is the saying, like, the 3Gs, stay away from the gays, the gambling, and the gossip. Right. You know.

You know, the guys that get, listen, I've only. really only heard about a few people they got fucked up that they didn't have it coming almost always you bring it on you bring it on yourself what were you doing you know what were you thinking every person that I've ever seen like either get poked up with a knife or get up in general they deserved it right most the time I've just I've deserved it I've said that over and I've always said look I know it sounds up but if you get like if you get stabbed or you get fucked up in prison you had it common like they don't it just not just

suddenly somebody looks at you and not that this doesn't happen, but it's rare. Exactly. But, you know, somebody to look at you and decide, I hate him and they just come up and run up and start stabbing you. Like, that's not what happens. You know, you ran up a gambling debt. You didn't pay it. The guy gave you multiple opportunities to pay it. Then he told you to check in.

Right. You know, this went on for fucking two months. And finally it's like, okay, well, either I have to do something or every single person is going to say, hey, I get to steal from you. Because you won't, we now know you won't do anything. So now I'm just f***ed. Right. So I don't have a choice. He can't lose his respect either.

Right. Either I have to shit go to another place. Right. Or I can do something to you. Right. Exactly. No, and like, again, like to your point, you already said it too. Like, not that it doesn't happen.

And once in a while you've got that bug motherfucker who just, I don't like the way Cox's faces like, you know, I'm going to poke his ass up. But that's exceedingly rare. Yeah. Like, it does happen. Maybe. But like, that's got to be a mental health case or something, you know. But, yeah, it was like Marion was really fairly chill.

Like, I had a cool bunkey. It was a lifer. You know, in Florida, they don't separate. Right. Like, you're going to be in prison. Like, your bunky's going to be doing triple life. And you're going to be a freaking 21-year-old white boy that's, you know, doing an 18-month skid bid on freaking doctor shopping charges, you know.

In the way in between. And it's going to be across. the gambit so but my my bunky was cool and and uh yeah we liked it and like everything was cool the back on track so marian was like really fairly chill i was in the main unit for longer than i probably should have been i went to the work uh work camp hung out at the work camp for a while put in for work release i went to work release um the first time and it was like said my first bid and uh went to work release and i was at um fort pierce work release that time i got a job in a bar being a prep cook and um my home girl i grew up with like it lived right around the corner was great

like everything was cool i was getting close to going home like probably eight nine weeks from going home and that prison was overseen by a martin correctional and uh there's a lady that work there that was like a friend of my mom's and her my mom happened to have a falling out around that time so she went to her bosses and said him being there as a conflict of interest and made me get transferred. So I got transferred down to West Palm Work Release. So when I got transferred down to West Palm Work Release, I was so close to going home. I wasn't

even trying to get a job. Like, it was just stupid. I just kind of hung out there for like my last month. Right. And I got out and whatever. So I got out like December 22nd of 2009, I think it was. You know, when I first got out, I was being a good boy. I was trying, like, I was like, yeah, I'm done with all the bullshit. Like, I'm not doing

pills. I'm not going around the wrong people. I'm not. None of that. I'm not doing None of that. Like, and I was just working, working, working, working. I was working two jobs immediately, just saving up my money and shit. And, um, common theme here, like, for me, like, even though I didn't expound on it is, like, women. Right. You know, um, and so, like, I've been in prison the past two years.

I'm 21. You can imagine, like, I'm trying to get blocks at any time I can, you know? Right. And so I was, like, hanging out with my buddy's girlfriend a lot. I wasn't messing with her, but I was hanging out with her a lot. hanging out over there one night and I see some like knockout come and I'm like

God damn and like another one of our mutual friends Homeboy's kid Timmy is kind of a dork and he's like we're like sitting there hanging out and he's like oh like you know because I'm like you're trying to break the ice with this

freaking hot girl and Timmy was like so like how was prison Anderson and all my friends called me Anderson and I'm just like looking at this motherfucker and I'm like what a dick you like really Did he do it on purpose?

Oh, it's totally on purpose. Oh, I thought. Totally on purpose. I'm like, you motherfucker. Like, a purpose to be a dick to, like, make me look bad or something. So I'm like, you fucking hate her ass motherfucker. I'm like, you're going to stand a chance of this girl anyway because you're a dork, like, straight up. So I'm like, all right.

And I just, like, kind of looked at him for a minute. I was like, well, Timmy, you know, I knew my life hit an all-time low when I'm jerking my dick in a porta potty on a prison farm in North Florida. and the girl like fell out of her seat laughing and she thought it was funny and like at that moment he was just kind of like damn it you made that work for you know like somehow you made that work

and then also like when she found that funny I'm like I can work with this yeah so anyway like I like I like tell like there'll have a couple more times talked to her a little bit and then like told my own girl Lindsay I'm like hook me up

and I end up start talking to that girl for a little bit I don't want to say your name on here but uh she was in playboy she's very pretty very very good-looking girl um so i i kind of talked to her for a bit mess around with her for a little bit and this is during my like i'm being a good boy phase fast forward like a month or so ish and i end up like popping by one of the home home boy's house a few times who's like still doing pills and selling and shit and i wasn't using her or nothing but i'd like stop by and see them because they're my friends finally like i ended up

using. I used and I wasn't it wasn't it hadn't become like a bad habit again yet. I was just using a little bit weekends whatever and then I'm there um on like a random like Tuesday night and uh like when I get there there was already some girl there and she's like a little five foot spinner like you know five foot brunette 105 pounds soaking wet all right super cute and I'm like damn and like but I'm not really I don't know anything about this girl's background. I don't know her. I don't know if she's got a man. I don't know nothing.

I know she's buying pills, you know. So I'm like there buying pills or whatever. And I introduced myself to her, of course. And I was at my buddy Travis's house and we're like just kind of small talking or whatever. I was in the middle of getting my license reinstated at the time too. So I like rolled up on a bike after work too. So it's like super not doing great. I really only been out like a month and some change.

Anyway, as I leave, I get a text from Travis, and he's like, hey, he's like, remember that girl that was just here, Megan? And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, that's her name, yeah, Megan, okay, yeah. And he's like, well, listen, she was like, he's cute, like, give him my number. And I'm like, bet, and he's just like, he's like, you know, give it like a couple days before he call her and shit. I'm like, nah, I'm like, I've never played that game. I'm like, I'm just, I'm a fucking text her or whatever right away, like, whatever. And I text her like two hours later, and we just start texting.

And this is, you know, it was 09, so you still had to do the ABC. You know, we're like just texting all a whole ton. We text like all fucking night that night. And it's like all night the next night. And that one went on for a couple nights and stuff. And I realized, like, me and this chick have a lot in common. Now, mind you, the chick that was a knockout was a knockout. She was a bag of air, dude.

She was so stupid. A lot of times that's what happens. Yeah, it's just bad. They don't have to develop the personality because everything's coming easy. Yes, yes. And like, and not to speak bad about her because she was a sweet girl, but like,

oh, like, she'd be like, why are you always using such big words and stuff? And I'm just like, oh, my God. Like, sorry. Like, I'm having to like give her vocab to like deal with my vernacular. Like, anyway. So me and Megan, like, hit it off.

hardcore, you know, and I, like, come to realize pretty quickly that, like, it seems like she's, like, the female version of me. Like, same, like, the same obscure punk rock music, like, everything. I'm like, interesting. So we had you got a chance to hang out yet, and then after, like, a week or so of talking, like, she happened to be off on, like, a Friday night, we hang out, like, with a mutual, kind of like a double date scenario. And I tell this to, like, kind of show you the progression but like we hang out I'm gonna like fucking bowling of all

things we leave the bowling alley and I remember like her friends were driving us back to her house later before we got there the friends kind of like oh we'll drop you off and then like we'll drop Anderson off after and um and Megan just was like

no he's coming with me and like I remember the girl just looking at her like being like pretty jealous feelings some kind of way about it you know she's like no no no he's coming with me and then like I'm like okay so like we get dropped off and then her and I go

to the bar and like get a couple drinks down the road as we're leaving the bar it became like a you're like you're gonna give me a ride back to my house or whatever and she's like you're not staying the night and I'm like bet you know so like now

like we're getting this point like we both like each other a lot I'm like trying not to like to like to girl the first time we hang out with her I ended up letting her know that I have a blue I have a roxy on me we end up like splitting a blue or whatever and hanging out one thing leads to another

and let your imagination take care of that but um one thing leads to another and like you know me this girl just have like insane connection though like besides just the bedroom stuff like also like in general

and like it went from like that first time I was hanging out together she'd give you ride home the next day and then like two days later like stay the night over there again mind blow like come back like go home then like the following like weekend I like went over there on like Friday

and I'm not sure I ever went back home right like I was staying with my mom I'm sure I was like she was just like you stay here now like I said originally I was trying to be a good boy and then like her and I were like doing some pills or whatever I was like really scared to sell again and stuff because everybody was snitching like this one set up that one and that wasn't and I've been gone for the last 18 months so I don't know who's snitching and who I shouldn't talk to and whose I shouldn't deal with. I'm like scared to sell but then now we're getting high all the time and then it just became like all we did like every day was like I would either work or do our jobs or whatever to make money myself she would be a waitress just all of our money pretty much we're staying together like at her mom mom's house and all our money pretty much want the blues anyway but like again is I don't want to sell

or nothing like I don't have any way to like supplement it is getting expensive because we're both we're both doing them and my tolerance came back like you know and like basically we would just like in the mornings I'd wake up and like get all ready and stuff like I didn't go out and like make money or whatever and then she'd work her restaurant job or whatever and it's pretty much just like work throughout the day like get a bunch of money together you know we'd have some blues left over for the night before so we weren't sick the next day but like work like wake up get ready get our stuff together go to work pool our money get a bunch of drugs go home get high and then for like hours on end because opiates do that to you and that was like my life

with her basically um so that's like all we like literally that's all we did so like that's what i was doing with her and um money got tighter and tighter and then eventually you know she gave me some shit to like here like take this to the gold buying place i I thought it was hers. I'd tell you. Like, if I knew it was stolen, I would tell you. Like, I knew it was stolen. I didn't know, man.

Like, I legitimately didn't know. Because had I known, I wouldn't have done it. Right. I would have tried to find, like, a fence to sell it to or, like, melt it down. You wouldn't have given your, your ID or, right? Yeah. Like, I'm not that stupid. So, like, I legitimately thought it was just, like, her shit, you know?

Maybe she got it for her first communion or some shit. Like, she's like Irish Catholic, too. So, anyway, um, that happened a few times. like I pawn shit or sold it to the gold buying place or pawned or whatever that happened and then um she actually ended up like stealing some shit from my mom while we went over there for like dinner or some shit one night she sold that stuff my mom noticed that a couple days later that asked me straight up like did you take any of my stuff like are you using again but i'm like no i fucking tell you mom i'm like but no i swear to god i didn't she's like all i'm gonna make an insurance

claim then because all my shit's like insured it's not like my mom had crazy jewelry It was on the homeowners insurance policy. Also around this time, Megan's family, like, had some money, like, her mom had some dough. Her dad definitely has some dough. He lived out of state somewhere, I don't know. But her mom had some dough, and, like, unbeknownst to me, like, a couple times we, like, went to have dinner with her mom, like, sat down and have dinner with her mom. And then Megan's like, I'm running the store real quick. She, like, run the store and come back.

And all I know, I did, now this, I knew she was doing something flammary-wise. I just didn't know exactly what. but she would like we'd go from like zero to 100 she'd have no money i'm running the store real quick she'd come back with like two bucks a pack of cigarettes for her a pack of cigarettes for me and like a thousand bucks and i'm like where'd this thousand bucks come from right but i'm not gonna ask any questions either i know you're doing something that's not right i'm also not gonna ask questions i'm to find out she was whacking her mom's bank account just withdrawing money right her mom had like in her like everyday money market i don't know if she had sold

a house or what she had like 870 gs in there though so her mom didn't notice for a long time fast forward some time and then finally one day we're like sleeping in bed like first thing in the morning and like her phone just starts blowing up it's her mom and then her mom's like she like didn't answer like the voicemail she didn't answer it she's like my mom knows i'm like your mom knows what she's like i've been like whacking her bank account for like a thousand bucks like hey where you think i've been getting all this money from and i'm like And I'm like, oh, fuck. And I'm like, well, is your mom going to press charges on you?

I'm like, she had plenty of money in there. Because she had told me, like, beforehand, like, yeah, my mom's got like, 900 grand in the bank. Is your mom going to, like, press charges on you? She's like, no, no, I'm just going to tell her, like, I need help, but I'm probably going to have to go to rehab and shit. And I'm like, okay, like, whatever. Like, yeah, we should.

And then, like, she finally calls her mom back. And her mom was like, you, fuck you. Like, you little fucking cunt, you're going to jail. And so is your boyfriend. And I'm like. Your boyfriend? How'd I get involved. Exactly.

I'm like, how the fuck? So, like, this is like going back and forth. And I'm like, we got to go. We're going to go. We're going to go. We're going to go. We're going to go. And she's like, well, she's like, I'm like, dude, your mom already called the cops.

I'm like, Meg's, we got to go. She's like, you sure? I'm like, we got to go. I'm like, we're going to faking jail. I'm like, I don't know how I'm involved in this, but like, we got to get, I don't want anything to do with the cops. I just got out of prison seven months ago or whatever. So we haul ass in her car. And, like, as we were hauling ass, like, the cops were pulling into the neighborhood.

Right. And so, like, we leave. We go stay at my buddy Will's house who lives out in the middle of East Bump, nowhere. It's, like, a place a couple times I've been on the run from the law over the years that I hid from them. We stay out there for a good week or two, I think. Come to find out, um, I had, like, called, like, the bail bondsman to see if there was a warrants out for me and shit. And come to find out some of that, um, jewelry that I pawn. was not, in fact, Megan's, it was her mother's.

And then, so now I've got warrants out for dealing and stolen property. I'm like, fuck. I'm like, I'm so f***. I'm like, that's a freaking second-degree felony. I'm f***. I just got out of the joint. Like, I'm f***ing. So then I'm like, well, fuck it.

I'm going back. I'm going back. And Megan had, like, stolen a checkbook from her mom. So I, like, do some things. Get us some money. And, uh, that went on for a few days. days got us a good bit of money in the hotel one of the days

then we go back to my buddy Will's house and we're there first thing in the morning one day and we just like wake up and I just never forget like I wake up and we're like going at it in the spare bedroom and like I would just hear and I'm like how

the fuck do the cops? Like I already do it as a cop I'm like how the fuck they know we're here of all places I'm like either somebody that's telling we're here or like I don't fucking understand so I knew it was a cop. I knew it was a We, like, hid from them for, like, a while because we're, like, in this interior bedroom

that you'd never know we were there, but her car was there. I'm like, well, they were going to see you again. They're probably going to get me for 10 years. I'm like, I'll... And, like, honestly, like... You don't have a record, and you're, like, this, like, pretty, like, girl

from the other side of the tracks. Like, whose family has money? I'm, like, maybe just tell them I made you do this stuff. I'm like, I'm going to prison regardless. So, like, I'll take the... Fall for it. Like, just tell him I, like, was abusive. and like made you do it

she's like okay and we let's like kind of hide we hide for a while and I'm just like Meg's like we can't keep hiding I'm like they're gonna wait us out like whatever if we're only go out there and we you know like turn ourselves in or whatever

and I remember them like sitting us down and the female detective being like Jesus honey like look at you you're like on death's door like talking about Megan like because she lost weight she like she was like 100-105 pounds soaking wet so like she was probably more like 95 right then so and then she's like in you you're like mr baby face like you can't even tell that you're strung out on drugs she's like it's crazy

um fast for the tickets to jail and they hit me with nine counts of dealing and stolen property in a credit card fraud and uh i end up um kind of lost number of some stuff in jail because it's not important but i end up they come at me with an offer for 40.4 months and four years probation and I'm like done how much 40.4 months what does that mean that's my sentence 40 40 months yeah 40. 40.4 months yeah you never heard the point four months they do that shit sometimes it's weird yeah um if you look it up online months if you look it up online it'll say 40 months but I've known a lot of people to get the point four or whatever it's weird but I got a 40.4 months plus four years probation so when I went to court next or do I ask the the the public

pretender I'm like listen see if you give me straight time like five I'll do five you know straight up well when I asked for like he comes back he's like you can do the 40.4 plus four or you can do eight I'll take the 40.4 you know yeah of course I sign it and that was that I go off to prison again I stay in contact with the girl um most of the time actually she kept writing me like a long time and time goes on like I stay in contact with her I'm trying to get to work release again because I can be down by home and I went to Franklin Correctional up in the panhandle it's up in Carabelle Florida it's right near Apalachicola in middle of bum fuck nowhere just like a lot of these prisons and that place was just like super locked down super like controlled movement and a good old boy network like they're using taxpayer money like out like the maintenance uh area like there was a dude that like he was like the welder on the welding squad and literally all that fucking dude did was build smokers out of steel that they bought with you know prison

material money right and he'd build every officer sergeant lieutenant whatever had a fucking badass smoker built by this dude totally away he would even build the trailers for them right and it's just all prison money that's building all this show i just always like they just got away with that kind of shit all the time and like they'd have like their staff appreciation day and like they have like that same dude that welded like would help them make barbecue and dude they'd be like smoking like 36 boston butts on like just all bought with taxpayer money just like filling up their cars like gas and just you know name it man just constantly constantly constantly constantly

doing shit like that and my whole thing was just like get to work release get to work release originally like I was still talking to Megan at the time I was like I'll get to work release I'll see her again everything be back to normal right because like I loved this girl to the death like we were toxic in a lot of ways but like Bonnie and Clyde like also super close in many ways and um you know it's just like all I wanted to do was get to work release it was like right before I put in she just like dropped off the face of the planet and I didn't hear from I didn't know that she went to jail again for violating her probation. Oh, okay.

But she dropped off the face of the planet. As time went on, like, I get to work release. I end up seeing her once. And I could tell, like, shit was different. She's just like, oh, I love you to death, but like my family. And I'm like, oh, whatever, bitch. So, um, what happened to I? You went from I love you to love this girl to death, then whatever, bitch.

Like, well, no, I was, I was pissed because, like, why have you been writing me for four fucking, years right i love you like pretty much riding out with me for four years sending me pictures all time and like all that kind of shit to like oh now that you're in front of me like i'm gonna let you know come give you some sympathy whatever because you're at work release but like i don't know my family and then i would like read i don't want to be out of my daddy's will or something you know what it really like boils down to so i'm just like again like why keep up the charade for the past four years then obviously you felt this way for a while like I mean she just pissed me off it was it was you know it's like writing the guy the soldier to give him some hope to get through it you know

in a way it was probably you know and it did help I was gonna say but like but like at the same time it's like you're expecting this all these four years or whatever then you're like I hear you what the fuck you know and like don't get me wrong I could have just been like normal guys did you ever see jarhead yeah same thing Right. Same thing. Right. Like most guys, it's just like two seconds after they're gone, it's like Jody's over there, you know what I mean?

I mean, I, you know, that's, but, you know, it's hope that gets you through it. Right, right. And like, and the truth is, like, I knew what her sex drive was like, I'm sure Jody was over there. Right. This is as soon as I was gone, but she at least wrote me, so that's cool, you know? So, you know what I mean? But, um, that's whatever. Like, so, uh, I was just like, well, like, if you're that worried about your family, like, like, don't.

And like, don't talk to me. Like, I basically was like, don't talk to me no more then. Bye-bye. Like, and then I just, like, I work at least, like, my biggest focus is just, like, saving up as much money as possible. I don't want to go back to Martin County when I get out. I want to save up as much money as possible, get a place down in Palm Beach County. I'm just, like, working as much as humanly possible there.

Where were you working? I was working on an auto body shop called a Diamond Auto Painting in Lake Park, Florida. And so my buddy, uh, you know, Dan who worked at this custom truck shop right down the street this guy was telling you about that was like actually he was in prison but he was an Abercrombie model at one point um he worked at this custom truck shop because he's actually a really good mechanic too like lift kits and like all that kind of shit and he used to walk past the uh auto painting place every day and he saw help wanted signs so when i got to work release he's like dude i know you used to do like

auto body and stuff like as a second job like along with air conditioning like i could probably get your job my bet let me know so i wasn't even there a week i already had a job um and so like everything was good and like i got the job and was like working there and i've always been a hard worker like and i want to know everything about everything so like just the way my mind works so i'm like i'm doing paint prep i'm painting i'm doing body work i'm detailing i'm helping the uh manager with the weekly business report doing like uh you know our gross profit and you know taxable blah blah you know that goes on i'm it's like doing that for a long time I was there for 10 months or so um and so around this time around

this time I start like having these two officers kind of with me a little bit at the work really center they start like ransacking my room and like holding me in from going to work and like all that kind of stuff and I just like I don't understand why because I was like textbook model prisoner right like I go to I leave for work at 545 of the morning and I'm not back until until 8 o'clock at night, I think. And all I do is, like, I get back at 8 o'clock, I do my chain gang workout, I go do muscle ups and pull-ups and dips and shit, and I take a shower, and I go to bed, and I'm saving the next day.

So, I'm like, why these guys fucking with me like this? They show up my job a couple times, they were supposed to do, but they never did before. They only had shown up once before in 10 months. Now they've showed up three times. It's just weird. And so, like, we're progressing along, and then I'm, like, telling my bosses and stuff, like, I don't understand what's going on. Like, these guys are fucking with me.

So, like, they'd help me in for work, and they would notice that, like, my boss would come get me. Like, if I didn't make my bus ride, which was a two-hour bus ride to work, like, I'd call my boss, like, do these fuckers help me in from work. He'd drive over and get me and bring me to work. And I, like, it seemed like that pissed them off. Like, somebody would drive out of their way to get me. So these guys are messing with me. And mind you, like I said, I'm like a model prisoner. I'm just working like 12, 13 hours a day coming back to the center.

I'm like going to church on Sundays every Sunday. During that time, like a few months prior to this, like probably July, August or so, I meet a chick at church. And we kind of start talking just friendly, innocently enough, just talking at church. She's not from the female work release center She's not whatever She's a free world chick that as it turns out As a teacher

At the school attached to the church And we're talking and it's progressing As time goes on And obviously I'm interested in her She's smoking hot You know tall blonde chick And um You know she ends up becoming my girlfriend

And uh You know like You're not trying to fuck up Yeah I'm not trying to fuck up I'm, like, literally on the straight and narrow. I'm done sick and tired of being sick and tired. I've been in and out of, fucking institutions since I was 13, 14. Like, I'm done.

I'm not selling any drugs. I'm not doing anything. I'm not even, like, thinking about doing drugs. I'm like, I just want to, like, get my shit together. And I met this chick that's awesome. You know, she's a teacher. Like, she's an awesome chick, like, pastor's daughter, like, from the Midwest, you know, whatever. So I'm just, like, on the straight and narrow.

And I like telling her, they're like, man, these, I got these officers fucking with me. And I can't figure out why. I don't know why they're messing with me. This kind of comes to a head, like I said, like February. And I'm at work one day where I'm doing the weekly business report with my manager, Diego. And, you know, we're going through, we're doing our weekly business report. And all of a sudden, the two officers show up at work. And they're like, can you come out here with us, please?

I'm like, yeah. And they're like, show us where the toolbox is. I'm like, what are you talking about? They're like the toolbox where you keep your money. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm like, I don't have a toolbox. I'm at work release, dude.

I'm like, and I work here. Like, everything's provided by the shop. Like, show us for the tool. Like, where's your little station where you work? And I'm like, well, technically like my title, like I work here. You can see there is a toolbox here, but it's like got 10 years with a dust on it. Like, it's not mine. I'm like, feel free to look through it.

I'm like, there ain't no money. and they're like, listen, I'm going to level with you. We know you're selling blues on the compound. We know you're dealing drugs. And, you know, people are getting high on the compound and we know it's you. And I'm like, I don't know who gave you that information. I'm not doing shit. I'm like, if you, like, watched me, you would know I create no trouble there.

I go to work, I come home. I go to work, I come home. That's it. I'm like, I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm like, oh, that's it. And they're like, yeah, well, we know, like, we have it on good. authority that you're like, I'm like, how many times you guys ransacked my room

and found nothing? Right. Now you're here you're going to find nothing. I'm like, I'm not doing anything. Like, have you considered maybe whoever told you this? Obviously somebody told you this? Have you considered maybe that source was wrong? And they're like, no, no. So they're like, oh, you think you're trying to be cute,

whatever, come out here with us. They bring me up by the van, which was parked out front. And they pat me down and then, like, put me in the van. And they're like, listen, motherfucker, you're going to pay to play or we're going to take you to jail. And for those that don't know, in the joint, like we call it getting taken to jail going to confinement.

Right. At least in the state. I don't know what they do with the feds, but that's going to confinement. So I'm like, dude, I don't, like, I don't have nothing for you. So then they, like, grab my wallet. Now, you could draw $100 a week out of your inmate account for Zoom, Zooms and Wham, wham, or whatever you want to spend the money on. So I've got like 90 of the 100 left

So they like I'm back outside the van at this point So they pluck the 90 out of my wallet And they're like go back in there and get us some more money And you're going to jail right now Like if I don't know what to do You know I'd go in there I'm like I know my boss will give me some money to give to them So I go in there we had just taken like $370 or so

From a bumper job that we did for a guy And he paid cash So I go inside And I tell the one officer to go around and going to the shop I needed to talk to my boss and I'm like dude these fucking guys are extorting me like I need some dough to give these guys and he's like

what do you want me to do like very like thick accent Diego had he's going what do you want me to do Ryan like I don't have money to give you and I'm like give me something out of the till mother fucker and so he's like I have that cash that we just took from the bumper job

I'm like that should be enough to get them to go away so he gives me like the 370 bucks or whatever I walk out back into the shop and our shop was in like kind of a high crime area. So like as I'm walking out to the shop with the dough in my hand, I'm like, wait a minute, I'm going to position this for so he's right on a candid camera. Right. Because we got cameras everywhere.

So I, boom, I give it to this one officer right on camera. Now why don't you backing up, the officer I gave it to was Officer Brown. The other officer that's fucking with me is a fucking lieutenant. Okay. He's a lieutenant in a white shirt. Right. Like, anyway. There's no, no mislifference.

identifying them or it's pretty obvious what's happening yeah and like it's pretty obvious they've been doing this because you wouldn't be this brazen as you're like first time they've been doing this and like I've told people like when I've told this story like if I was doing dirt I would have gladly paid those motherfuckers and been like here you go right whatever but I wasn't so I was kind of like right here I am trying to like actually live right and like you're shaking me down And so I don't have like I'm make you I'm not making enough to keep doing this right right So you giving me really one choice right like either I've got it well two choices either I've got to start doing it To pay you right you know or I got to figure out another way out of this right or I guess three choices or just go to the you can go to the

In feds it's the shoe you can go to the hole you can go to the hole right for doing nothing right I can go to the box I got to sell drugs to supplement the income to give them the money or I've got to report them somehow and hope that it's not one of their buddies I give them the money on camera

I walked back out with them to the van and he's like listen we're gonna be back Monday for this is the lieutenant telling me this is we'll be back Monday for $500 more we're gonna meet you

at that Benjamin Moore store right there across the street around lunchtime better have our fucking money basically I'm like they leave I go back inside I'm like oh my fucking God dude and we call our boss

boss the actual owner owner Bob and he's like you call cops the real cops right and so we call the real cops and we call our IT guy to come pull the camera footage and shit immediately because it's on a loop it's not it's you know it gets re-recorded every 72 hours they said in court like when the shit went to court that like it was unclear what he gave the officer it's clearly money right but whatever point is like Seth pulled the camera footage and then um PBSO public sheriff's office cop finally comes and that cop like when you realized I was on work unless he was a complete dick

complete dick but I'm like telling him what happened and then it wasn't until and I also called my girlfriend and I was like hey baby you need to get up here right now because I don't know what the fuck gonna happen but like I want to see you if something goes down like get get up here and she's just gotten off work too so she's just like threw something on throw some yoga pants and hauled ass up there

to see me she had gotten there like probably 30 minutes after the cop and by this time I'm sitting down like writing my statement out and the cop And the cop was a dick all the way up to the point where I handed him my statement and he read it. And when he read it, he was like making these faces. And I'm like, what? And he was like, well, nothing. You're just, you're not a dumbass.

Right. And he's like, this is like the best, like the most well written statement I've ever read in my life. And I'm like, thanks. And he's like, well, no, I just like normally guys in your position, they're fucking dumbass. And he's like, why are you in prison? I'm like, drugs, dude. They make you a person you're not normally. whatever um so then he starts being kind of cool with me and um he's like listen did he see the

footage you show him the footage yeah he had seen the footage you know um and i showed it to him again once he read my statement then now he's like okay i i see what's going on here the beginning footage of them looking through a toolbox and all that too we had all that it was on camera them pulling up them walking like we had all that so he's like all right well listen pbso probably won't touch this unless it's like a task force thing he's like but he's like would you be willing to wear a wire on these guys when they come back for the extra 500 so you can really you know stup them and I'm like yeah I'm like I don't know I am no snitch I never snitch on nobody but like snitching on prison guards a prison guard I'll I will snitch on a prison guard

all day along now maybe if they were doing bad shit for me that was for my interest that would be different but these guys are trying to you're shaking me down yeah they're shaking me down I'll wear a wire on those fucking assholes any day I'm like yeah so he's like well the FDLE might reach out Monday like whatever whatever so I'm like okay um we leave

I leave with my girlfriend we go get dinner and I don't know if they're just going to arrest me right when I get into the center they don't I go through the whole weekend everything's normal I see her at church on Sunday everything was normal what she's saying she's just like what

like what this is fucked up like what do they they can't do that like this is people that haven't been in the system right you know I always love when people that haven't been in the system say those words they can't XYZ and you're just like

oh honey you're a person you have no clue what you're talking about you've watched too much TV yeah they can and they will do whatever the they want whenever the fuck they want however the they want legal or not so especially with the corrupt as

Florida Department of Corrections is. So fast forward to Monday morning. I'm walking out of the center. It's 5.45 a.m. Mind you those two, like, this is an important detail. Those two prison shit eaters, they work 8 to 4.30. I'm walking out of the work-al-lease center to go catch my bus. My first of two buses and two-hour bus ride it takes to get to my job.

I'm walking out at 5.45, and as I'm like probably almost a block away, a white van comes up on me and it's these two motherfuckers Lieutenant Bo and Officer Brown in a state van in uniform at 545 in the fucking morning when they should not even be on shift yet

and they're like get in the van and I'm like dude oh my God like these guys are they gonna fucking go kill me and dump me in the Everglades like but I really can't make a scene and say no either so I roll with it I'm like hold the fuck on I gotta grab my

my cigarettes I grab my cigarettes I get in the van and we leave and I'm like they're like we're gonna give you a ride at work and I'm like fuck you know um I tried to make them stop as many places as possible like I stopped and made them like a bottle pack of cigarettes at this one store made sure I'm on camera notated in my brain what store it was and I stopped at another store I'll buy work same thing made sure I'm on camera and like I knew the owner of that store because I stopped there every day and I'm like hey you know like you need to save this footage for me So anyway, they get rid of work I'm just early as fuck

It would take me two hours to get there on the bus Right So we get there and it's super early And we're just like sitting there Like do to do I'm playing along with them Like I'm gonna get them more money But I've got no money to give them Right

You know I'm just like waiting for one of my co-workers To get there basically So my one coworker gets there Eddie Who's a great dude But he'd come in at like seven And he would always leave early on Friday So he had no clue what happened on Friday right so he comes in like between 7 and 730 and he uh didn't know what happened on

Friday so he's empty and trash and the dumpster he pulls up and I'm like Eddie needs to be cool he's like oh see you got a ride this morning huh I'm like that ain't no ride I'm like those of those assholes that keep messing with me I was like dude they shook me down on Friday for money blah blah it's a long story there's a police report underneath the desk in the office if you want to read it but like it's it's bad and he's like mother you know he was a good old boy from north carolina he's like the motherfuckers i'm like i need to stall them because like the you know fdalee and everybody was supposed to get involved he's like all right so i proceed to like open up the shop and like just kind of go about my day like hold on guys

i got to look normal and i stall as long as humanly possible i stalled for like over an hour i stall stall stall stall stall stall stall stall stall and finally the lieutenant is just like you're stalling we're gonna take grass to you i'm like oh hold on hold on like all right all right i'm done playing I go back there, Eddie is on the phone with 911 at this point, and I'm like, I'm like, dude, they're going to take me in, whatever, Eddie's like, take my phone, talk to the dispatch, he says, go lock yourself in one of the cars. If they try to come in here, I'll scare him out of here. So, like, 15 minutes go by, and I hear Eddie start yelling. And what I didn't know is, like, they're looking around, trying to find me, and they looked in, like, one of Eddie's things, and Eddie pulls his gun on him. And, uh, because Eddie keeps the freaking 45 in his toolbox. Right. He's getting to fuck out my shop right now. And they're like, oh, we're just trying to help Brian because he's got money he's not supposed to have.

And we're going to deposit in his, in his inmate account and da, duh, duh, what they are brazen, right? Brazen is, man. And Eddie's like, that doesn't make enough fucking sense. Like, how would that make any sense? You're going to help him? He's like, get to fuck out of my shop right now. So I'm in like a Jeep Grand Cherokee, like, down on the floor board, like talking to 911, trying to explain what had happened Friday to her

and it's just, it's a nightmare. They find me in this Grand Cherokee, and they're pounding on the window. I was like, get out, motherfucker, da, da. After a few minutes, PBSO cop car pulls up. As soon as the regular cop car pulls up, I jump out of the Cherokee, I said, listen, sir, you can arrest me right now, cuff me up.

I'm like, I'll go wherever to you, take me to county, take me wherever. I just don't want to go anywhere with them. I'm in fear for my life. So he immediately cost me up, throws me in the cop car. He's, like, trying to talk to Bowen Brown, who, like, you can see, like, steam coming out of their ears as they're, like, trying to figure out a way to, like, make this make sense.

Right. Because they've not thought of backstories to tell other cops, you know. So they're like, oh, yeah, we were going to, you know, do the thing for the stuff and the who's he what's it and the watcherjiggers. And, you know, and the cops like, okay, okay, yeah, he's a word of the state. I'm going to give him back to you. So, like, he makes a big scene, opens the back door, and then, like, leans in.

He's like, Mr. Anderson, we were literally wiring up your boss at the Kmart around the corner. Fuck. And he's like... These guys thwarted the plan. He's like, we don't know why they picked you up early or what. He's like, but unfortunately, he's like, your boss is actually going to come here and try to be like, hey, can I just give you some money to squash all this? Maybe they'll take it. Maybe they won't.

and he's like if it would have been nice you could have scald a little bit longer like he's telling me this really fast though he's like well listen I gotta let you go with him he's like but just know you're being followed he's like if you go back to the center

we're going to be watching nothing's gonna happen to you like we're not gonna let them kill you or nothing yeah they don't know that exactly like they could have killed me in that man and nobody would know at least till that was dead they could take you in the fucking hole

and do any number of things to you and say we found him he hung himself right well first First, they had to take me back to the work. They could have strangled me with a seatbelt in the fucking van. That's what I'm saying? That doesn't mean that once you're in the place. Oh, even worse.

It's even worse. Yeah. So at any rate, they give me back to them. And then now they're like, ha-ha, motherfucker, you thought you were going to get over on us. I'll show you. Like, I have way more power than you. Like, you're going to lose all your gain time. You're fucked.

I'm going to give you a line to staff, DR. I'm going to give you a da-da-da-da-da-d-d-r. Whatever. I'm like, fuck you. both of you you know and in the end we start

driving back to the center or no we're about to start driving back to the center Diego my manager comes up is like hey can I just give you guys

like a thousand bucks and we'll just squash this all right they were smart enough to be like no no because like too much it happened we drive back to the center and I'm like so nervous

to hold right back like matter of fact the guy Officer Brown was sitting behind me because the officer beau douche was like um if he tries anything funny wrap that seatbelt around his neck and fucking strangle his ass literally like told him to do that and which he didn't do but could have happened we get back to the center and we're back at the center um they put me in the officer station and they immediately like go off to the side to go try to figure out their stories um there's some officers working that know me they know i don't cause any trouble and they're

like Anderson, the, that Bo comes back in, and he tells us, one officer, Officer Campbell, he's like, hey, listen, Campbell, I need you to put that we signed out the van at 0800, right at 0800. Right. And then we just got back, you know, right now. And Campbell's like, but you didn't, you were already gone when we got here. And he's like, just do it. Like, I'm the lieutenant, just do it. And like, when he walked away, I liked Campbell.

I painted his car. I'm like, don't do it, Campbell. My lawyer's going to have a field day of this shit. I was like, I promise you, you don't know. what's in motion here but shit's about to go down and he's like shit you think they do anything for my black ass man fuck that cracker I'm not doing shit for him and like literally like no sooner do he say that maybe five minutes later like the fucking doors to the center like fly open and it's like the warden the Florida

State Inspector General PBSO FDLE like all those people and they're like where's Ryan Anderson where's Ryan Anderson like where's he at they like make sure then I'm okay and they're like get him out of handcuffs right now blah blah blah and they're like where's uh bow and brown and they were like at the there's a road prison right next door to the work release they're like at the road prison like off in a corner like talking so they grab them you start questioning everybody and everything but like there's a lot of damning evidence against them already right because their story already doesn't make sense yeah it makes no sense you've at the very least you've already lied on a police report right right which is at the very least enough

for them to get fired, you know, let alone, you know, charged. I think you can get two or three years for lying on a police report. And it's worse when it's an official making that kind of thing. So I get questioned about the FDLE and all these people and all that. And they're just kind of corroborating what I've already said. And then the real kick in the ass about this thing is like, I was good at work release. Instead of letting me stay and finish out my last 55 days or whatever that I had left,

when this all went down, they send me back. to Martin Correctional again, which oversees West Palm work released by this time. I'm, they put me in AC confinement, so I'm an administrative confinement. I'm in the box, and I just like, I'm back there for like 45 days, I think, when I didn't do anything wrong, you know? So I'm going to say, you know, what's funny is like the warden of the prison has the right to release. you exactly like the warden they could have just gone and explained it to the ward and he could have said okay you know what can you do you have somewhere to go right like we're going to send you home but you're done right it's 45 days you're done you're safer at home which is exactly

I actually when I mean when I got interviewed with the FDA Lee I actually suggest I'm like they can't just do an emergency release it's 45 days it's nothing that's a joke it's really nothing locked up for years exactly I asked like that and I was just like and then when they said that they were going to send me tomorrow and I was like you guys are like playing with my life you don't know what buddies they have at martin or whatever that could make me to death back there in the box like anything could happen but no i do my 45 of my last 60 days in the box um then i go to belglaid for like my last 15 days or whatever 14 days then i get out i get out and um once i'm out like this this whole case and everything's just been like crazy um my girlfriend

It's been in the newspaper, right? Because the articles I read in the newspaper. So by this point, they've arrested the guys. Have they charged them and everything? Not by the time I got out. Okay. The arrest came later. However, like, my girlfriend, like, once I get sent to the box and everything,

she's just, like, beside herself. And she's, like, feverishly writing me trying to figure out where I'm at. FDLE had questioned her. And then, um, they, like, questioned her. And then, like, when they sent me to the box, I think, I think they, like, told her they didn't know where I was at, which freaked her out. She had no way to talk to me to know. She's like, what the fucking, what do you mean? You don't know where he's at.

So, anyway, all these things happen, and it's just like a whirlwind of, fuckery. It's like something out of a bad B movie, you know? And, you know, we're going through the whole kit and goodle here. And are they ever going to charge these guys? Like, now I'm out. They were never going to charge these guys? Like, what the fuck? I knew they were suspended, like, right away.

Right. Without pay. Well, finally, I want to say it was like, so I got out April, I got out Tax Day, 2013. I want to say it was like September. They finally officially charged both of them with like official misconduct and a couple other things.

And so, you know, they arrest them, they charge them. The white shirt guy got a good lawyer, Michael Salernick he's pretty good he gets pretty good lawyer Brown doesn't has like a public pretender and the union doesn't do shit for him

so anyway I end up hearing they get arrested I'm like finally yeah they get arrested and just to show you like how slow the wheels of justice move in our system if it was me

I would have been on trial in three months right because these guys were pregnant guards, it was three years before one of them went on trial, which was the lieutenant. They wanted to always try the lieutenant first because they're like, you know, some may say our case is weaker on the lieutenant, but like, that guy. He's a white shirt. Like, fuck him. So, like, he's higher up, whatever. So long and short, we end up going to a trial, and I think his lawyer with depositions and all this and his lawyer, it's like very clear His lawyer is going to be like, attack my credibility, attack my credibility, attack my credibility.

I wish it was recorded because I mopped the fucking floor with his lawyer. I mean, I mop the fool. I made him look like a fool. I have a good memory and stuff, but he tried every way to trip me up and get me to, you know, get a rise out of me and stuff. And I just, I mop the fucking floor with that fool. And, like, even the other, the dude, Beau, like, at one point it was like, can you identify that man in the courtroom? And I was like, yeah, he's the guy over there with the, with the cheap men's warehouse suit on and the bad hair piece or whatever. Right. And like the whole courtroom was like, it was pretty funny.

He gets convicted at trial, bam, on everything. The judge, like, oh, I got to do like my victim impact statement. And I wrote like a solid gold impact statement. Right. Which part of it was just like me trying to rub it in. But part of it really was like, it's just fucked up, dude. I'm trying to change my fucking life here. Yeah, like I really, truly is trying to change my life.

Like, now mind you, when it finally went to trial three years later, that girl that was my girlfriend is now my fucking wife. Right. We got married, and I'm just, like, working my ass off to get my shit together. The ex-girl had, you know, that I was with before I went to prison the second time, our restitution was joint in several. Who do you think had to get stuck paying all the restitution? This guy.

and by the time the three years had elapsed, I had already gotten off probation, paid off all my restitution to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars, gotten married, like all this shit. Like all I was trying to do is get my shit together, man. That's it.

I wrote this impact statement that was just pretty much like a big you and like you're entrusted for the... You're in a position of trust and you're supposed to be keeping me... Part of it is... Part of it is, you know, yeah, you're a jailer.

you're supposed to keep me incarcerated but you're and following the rules but you're also supposed to you're you're entrusted with my safety yes yes so and so yeah they they um i forget what there's like a three c's or something in control care comfort of control care care something rather control like the the the doc uses yeah they they just violated all that shit and like the one guard the officer brown I, like, almost fell bad for him. I didn't, but almost because he was like Bo's puppy dog. Right. I guarantee you that pussy would have never done that without Bo. He's a pussy. And so, but, like, falling in Bo around, like, you know, I can make a couple hundred raggedy-ass dollars. Well, how many people were, I mean, how long had they done that and for, and what, I mean, what is your, what do you think?

Because you're clearly not the first person They'd ever done that too I think that Bo had been doing it for years Right It was like almost as long as he'd been working at the center Brown hadn't been an officer long enough I think I was probably one of the first people That he ever like

And it went way wrong It went way wrong To lost his career over it So once Bo got convicted Brown took a deal Lost his career and got like He was just barely like At that point where they get a vest

Right I think it's like three or five years for them so they're just barely getting the vest so he lost everything not to mention like all the time he was out on um all the time he was out on um admin leave and all that kind of shit so like that that's basically what happened and like after it happened like i had other guys but yeah they were making me pay rent too but the thing was like those guys wouldn't come forward because they were doing shit yeah yeah you know what i mean so it's like uh and um yeah dude it's just uh the florida system's so so corrupt like i can like go on on on on about it but

um that's a story for another time but like the fact that you know he only got a few years too is just a noise the fuck out of me too like that guy deserved to get 10 years because he was also a piece of shit to prisoners right you know from being the feds too like we're already doing time right that's our fucking punish me you don't need to be punitive too right You don't need to be extra. I like the guys, like the guys that, the correctional officers that are basically, it's just a job. Right. They show up, they do their job, they leave.

It's the guys that get there and they want to talk down to you. They want to, they want to belittle you and make your life much, much harder. They want to write up incident reports for things that didn't happen. Right. Or, you know, I've seen guys, you know, they'll go in. And there's all those stupid things. You'll lie on you. Yeah.

Not even, I'm not even talking about guys that'll plant stuff. Like, you don't, you don't have to plant someone to give them a hard time, plant stuff on. You can just go in and flip their bed. Like, people don't realize, like, I've got to sell. If the guard walks in and he flips my bed over or just pulls, he can just mess it up and write a report. Boom. Guy didn't have, you know, this inmate didn't have his bed, you know, in good shape. or maybe I've seen guys get written up because the guy two cells down borrowed a newspaper

and he went to return it and he put it on the guy's bed, boom, inmate has something on his bed. Like, I didn't put it on my bed. Somebody else did and you write me up and now I lose 30 days commissary or I get, you know, something happens to me or maybe you don't, maybe you'll lose your two-man room and now you're in a three-man room and you're like, it took me two years to get into a two-man room because I lent a paper to Jimmy and Jimmy wasn't smart enough to realize you should shouldn't have thrown it on my bed, you should have handed it back to me.

So, and you know I didn't do that. I was at work. Right. When I left, my bed was fine. When I came back, you've written me a report, you've written me an incident report because Jimmy, when I was at work through it on my paper, like, it's so unfair. And people think, oh, well, what's the big deal? The big deal is it took me two years to get a two-man cell.

I was comfortable. I did nothing wrong. Right. And now I'm going to a three-man cell with two other guys. That would be uncomfortable. That's extremely uncomfortable. uncomfortable and you know it's just this and people don't you know they don't realize how you hear about these guys who are like this guy got stabbed because he he lost the guy's book like a guy

I lent him my Game of Thrones book and he lent it to somebody else and that guy got shipped or he gave it to somebody now they can't find it and next thing you know they get stabbed somebody get stabbed over it and you're like god you stabbed him over a book you know you don't seem to understand what happened that's not that's not the book like there's a whole other your priorities are so shifted, the things that mean nothing out here that you wouldn't think twice about are so overwhelmingly important. You make decisions and you do things that you would never do on the street until you've been there for four or five years. It still seems silly. But four or five years later, it's not silly. You know, you can't talk to me like that. You can't say that.

You can't do this. You need to return that. That's why, like, to me, luckily, I was sharp enough not to get into those stuff. I don't lend things. I don't do this. I don't borrow this. I don't do this. I just don't have it. I don't lend it.

I don't give it. I don't this. I don't borrow anything. I'll do without. No, I'll go without coffee for a week. I don't need to borrow coffee. I'm good. Yeah.

You know, like across the board, there's all these little things that just kept me out of trouble because I saw things go so wrong for other people. Little tiny nuances that are a big deal. Yeah. A big deal, you know, or can be. And a lot of it is just respect things.

Yeah. It just boils down to respect on a lot of a basic level. A lot of it's just respect, respect, respect, respect. And then so many other things, too. Like, I'm going to borrow from you. I'm going to pay you interest. Like, fuck you. Like, I'll go without, you know, and I'm not going to, you know,

I'm just not going to do that, you know. And I, I just say, I've even bought stuff for some for people. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no. Right. This is yours. you don't know you want to give me some of those back's fine that's fine it's up to you but what you know right this is yours i'm buying it for you right it's yours yeah it's um yeah i bought a guy uh um like a you know like a toothpaste one time because he's using the regular toothpaste all the time

i know he had money and then i bought it boom the bob worker yeah exactly it's better for polishing metal than it is for doing your teeth right but uh yeah it's just just it's a horrible it's a horrible situation just what's your your priority i'm trying i wish i could think of a way to say it your your priorities are so skewed and so fucked up after being in prison just a little period of time and i've seen guys that does they they don't they get they get themselves into trouble right away oh yeah right away they don't let her chance done you right away yeah and you're just like bro what'd you do like you got here you're you within a week you're running up debts You're borrowing money.

Like, you're doing everything wrong. You try and tell him, they, they, nah, that guy's good, bro. No, he's not good. You don't know that guy. Now, we're from the same neighborhood. That doesn't mean anything. You're doing way too much. Right.

Calm down. Like, stop what you're doing. A couple little white kids get themselves in trouble that way. Like, just, oh, man, he's so nice. He, like, let me this. I'm like, did you not watch the Honeybun video, bro? Like, come on. Like, this is, like, prison 101.

Don't, dude, you weren't paying attention to the Honeyblood video, were you? Guys used to say, what's the difference between the low and the medium? I say in the, you have to have heard me said, I'd say, in the medium, if a dude leaves the Snickers bar on your pillow, don't touch it. In the low, you can eat it. Right, right, right, right. Nobody's going to do anything. They're walking around tough guys, they're acting like badasses and stuff, but for the most part. You'd have to really give them a reason.

Yeah, you'd have to really, really give them a reason to go after you, for the most part. like we don't have medium and low in um state and state but we have like higher institutions you know they have levels right it's a level five it's a level seven seven yeah yeah whatever like or whatever like um but you also just got some places that are wilder than others and you got to know how to move and know how to do your time and this is the same thing like there's guys that would be in the like listen like the low and yazoo is worse than the medium at coleman you know what mean like that's right of course of course in the low here like if you're a sex offender like don't don't even don't even look in the window of the TV room as you walk by right you know that like

they they keep their heads down they don't you know in the low these guys at these guys would actually come in some would just stand outside the window and they'd look sometimes there were sometimes when they'd actually go in and watch a program like they'd have to really petition to be able to watch a program. But it happens, you know. These are the sex offenders? Yeah, these are the sex offenders. But this is a low.

50% of them are sex offenders. What are you going to do? You know, there's too many of them. Right. But you think about in other institutions like these guys are walking around. They're staring at the ground. They eat glass. They did.

And it could be even a higher, it could be even a lower custody. It just depends on who's running it. Like, just because what happens at a low in California is vastly different and then what's going to happen at a low in Florida. Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, like for state side for sex offenders and, like, me personally, it's, like, pretty much smash on site or check in. I didn't even get into that part of, like, my own story.

But, like, so I'm a survivor of that. There's a couple people in my neighborhood that I grew up in. There was, like, actually, not one, but two, like, pretty prolific. I know now. sex offenders that molested numerous boys in my neighborhood, like numerous ones of us. And we all didn't know that he got a bunch of us until later. And it fucked up like a whole generation of kids, like actually,

because he got so many of us. And so, like for me from that perspective, like I personally put a lot of people's shit on the glass. Like, you know, you get those like dorky fucking, Usually a little, fucking dorky little white boy or something. They all got to look. They have that look. They do a little wheezel.

It's usually just a little weasley little dude. And you're just like paperwork. And if they don't have paperwork, you know, you're like. My lawyer told me not to talk about my case. You're going to get smashed. Yeah. Put your fucking shit on the glass. How about that?

Like, or like I worked at maintenance when I was at Franklin. And I don't want to say how, but we had a way to like, you know, not even with a cell phone. And it wasn't we had a cell phone. We had a way to look up people's DOC record. And, like, I remember there was this, like, this dude that was like he would run ink and stuff. He was, like, goddamn good tattoo artists. But I overheard him a few times in line, like, on the way of the child, be like, oh, yeah, look at her or look at him or whatever.

And I'm like, he's, like, talking to some other dude. Like, I'd, like, I'd like, fucking just take that or whatever, whatever. and I'm like this guy this sums up with this fucking guy so I decided to look his ass up

he's in for an L&L on a victim under 12 and like and everybody was like kind of like oh he's a fucking outlaw biker the duh

and maybe he was he had the tattoo and shit but I don't give a fuck I personally was like put your fucking shit on the glass and I had printed it out the printout

and so muggled it back in. I was like, you get your shit out in the glass. And he was like, I ain't no fucking sex offender. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, listen, dude, put your shit on the fucking glass. And he, like, started to refuse at first. I said, listen, I'm going to really throw you under the bus now.

And I was like, I'm just going to do something. And you're going to see why you need to put your shit on the glass. And I just pasted it up on the officer station. And everybody immediately got to see that he not only was there for an L&L and a victim under 12, but he was a multiple-time sex offender. Right. He's a prolific sex offender. And, like, I'm one of those people.

Like, I believe that people can't change if they put enough work in. However, sex offenders can't be rehabilitated. Like, what anybody says, those motherfuckers cannot be rehabilitated. All they want to do is figure out a way to get away with it. They're not like drug addicts and gambling addicts and fraud addicts. Right. You know, who can change. Like, that's like a switch or something is fucked up in their head that they are attracted.

to my nurse it can't be fixed they might as well just Jimmy Rice act all of them put them in a fucking island somewhere send them all to Epstein's Island or some shit like I don't know like just do something with them

you know it just they they can't be rebuilt I don't care what anybody says you just can't but anyway I digress but it's just it's just really sickening to me the way those people

upper but like and I've heard that about the fed though that the low sometimes Well, because there's so many that are arrested. Exactly. And what's happening is they'll go in. They'll get these guys that are, you know, they'll arrest 45 guys on one case. They'll arrest because they're doing internet crimes. So there's so many of these guys feel comfortable in the Intergram.

They're looking up stuff. They're just looking up photos. And so if you even have looked it up and have it on your computer, you're getting three years, mandatory. That's it, three years. So you, so they flooded all the lows. They can't, you know, it's not, they don't consider it like. a violent crime so they're not going to the mediums but they can't go to a low because there's because of um public public um public um public uh safety so you can't it has to be a fit so it's a low

you're only going to the lows so the lows are are packed full of them wow and and so now they just fill them up fill them out fill them up and and you know what do you do and and then just recently about a year or so ago the halfway houses started taking them again in Florida because Florida used to not allow them in halfway houses. They're not allowed to go to work release. Right. For like states.

But they've locked up so, you know, it's like, okay, great, you're going out, you're getting them, you're doing something, that's great, but you've only, that's only half the problem. Now where do they go? Well, that's because there's no time either. That's what really irks me too. Like, I'm about the feds. I was going to say, in the feds, here's the problem.

So if you actually could be a hands-on offender in the state, and you can get probation. Right. But if you looked at a picture. in the Fed. You're getting three years. Now, if you have multiple pictures, you could end up with three, six, nine. You could end up with 50. There are guys that have 15 years because they had a video or they went to whatever. And it's like, okay, but he didn't get a hold of anybody. This guy got a hold of someone. And he got 12 months in the state and five years paper.

It's like, are you serious? This guy yanked somebody into a van. Right, right, right, right. This guy looked at some pictures. I'm not saying either one of them is acceptable, but 15 years versus 12 months. What are you doing? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. But I've just noticed, you get somebody that pawns some shit, you give them fucking five years, four years, whatever it may be. You got a guy that, you know, got an L&L on somebody under 12, and they get into 24 months.

Right. They may have a lifetime probation after, but still, like. Well, I think, you know, the problem is, is that for, it is a, it's a, it's a, stuff situation. And the problem is, for some people, it'll never be enough time. You're never going to get a consensus on what. what constitutes enough time. You know,

if you're a little old lady and you lost half a million dollars of your life savings to a white collar criminal, some people are saying he's a white collar criminal, but if it's her, she's saying,

give him life. Right, right, right, right. You know, say, well, if I give him life, what do I give the murderer? What do I give the, so it's a, it's a balancing act.

It's also just because I don't believe there can be rehabilitated. That always sways my thing. Well, I think, and here's the other problem with my opinion on that is like now we have to house them like not like you know kind of like what the judge said like how much resources can you throw right and you can't march them off to the to the

right you know to the gun range you know so it's like you know not that there's not a whole not that I don't think that that vote would pass but nobody wants to even put it up for a vote right so it's like you're like it's such a it's just no good solution no no like no like That's why there always seems to be like a place that they go. You want to know, and they can grade their own food. You know, they can be completely, create their own culture. Off grid. It's fine.

You know. Right. You know, so. Parents can threaten to send their children there when they're bad. There would be a whole, there would be a whole, there'd be a whole genre kind of a set up just around that whole thing. You know, people would write books. I think so. It would be, yeah.

Yeah, it would turn into, it would turn into the boogeyman. Oh, yeah. It'd be like my parents tell me they're going to give me to the gypsies. Right. When I was kidding. We're going to give me the gypsy. What the fuck are even are the gypsies? I don't even know what the gypsies are, but the fact that you guys are threatening me with me?

Yes. I don't know. Yes. They would tell us that all the time. Like, we're going to give me to the gypsies. I'm like, the fuck even are the gypsies. The Hungarians, the fucking weird English people, like the Brad Pitt and Snatch. I love that movie.

Yeah, that's a great movie. But, yeah, I mean. Well, what are we, are we good? You feel good? I think so. Okay. I think so. And I can tell Kevin doesn't feel good.

I can tell Kevin is having some problems. He is. I was like, I can tell you was. I feel bad because I know he doesn't have any food in his stomach. Yeah. So the story behind that is these guys had a bad meal last night. And they spent a good portion of last night being sick. at the hotel and this morning being sick and when I got the phone call this morning it was like

I think we're good we're on our way there's nothing left in our stomachs we're good but Kevin who's watching is gone to the bathroom what has been good but has gone the bathroom several times and not obviously not doing well so I thought of a title for a book when I was in prison And I was like, you know what, I'm going to, like, write a memoir and just call it weird shit and amazing tales. Like, my life in times as a degenerate drug addict in South Florida. And that would be a good title. Yeah, I think it's a pretty good title. And now I'm putting it on the internet, so some other asshole I'll write it.

But I always thought it would be a good title, though. And just, like, put a bunch of, like, my dad's stories and shit in there because there's numerous. so but yeah your dad's story sounded like my cousin's story of a cousin who is addicted to meth and was in prison

has been prison in and out of prison for meth and manufacturing meth and so he he uh he just he had one story after another

and his stories were they were great they were hilarious and I remember one time he said I my and just the way he talks my I had a credit

a card one time. I couldn't break it. I couldn't break it. It was a corporate card and I could just buy and buy and buy. I used this thing for weeks. I couldn't break it. He was in my girlfriend. He goes, the girl I was seeing, she said, baby, baby, take me into the store and let me give me some diapers. So I go and we fill up the cart with diapers and I swipe the card and it's good and we're walking out with the, you know, with the cart filled with diapers and the manager comes out. And he runs up to him and he goes and he says, hey, hey, we got to come back in the store. back in the store we're going to talk about this and he's like and he's like well he's like wait a minute wait a minute so the guy says uh he says man come on man let me just just take the diapers let me go

let us go and he goes now you should have he was oh oh you should have thought about that and he looked in him he said i okay and he pulls and he's got a he's got a gun my cousin's got a gun pulls up pulls out the gun and holds the sand on the gun he said he said he said you know what he said help her put those diapers in the fucking back of that truck And the guy's like, oh, wait a minute, I got a kid. I got a wife. And he goes, oh, you should have thought about that. And he loads them up and tells him to kick rocks.

They get in the car and they leave. Fuck that asshole. But, you know, he's just one story after another. It's like every one of them's hilarious. Yeah, I just, there's those people out there just. On the fringes. Yeah, they're full of them. My dad's like a Florida man without being a Florida man.

He's from Connecticut, but he's. I don't think you have to be born here to be a Florida man. I feel like you have to just reside From a native's perspective I don't think you have to be born here to be a Florida man And like Florida's full of Flipped up people from Ohio That's like

Oh you're fucked up and from Ohio Come to Florida You know Tim Dorsey used to say that In all of his books Like all the f***ed up people from Ohio Like Dorsey's great You know They're popular books in the joint and shit

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