Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Escaped FBI Fugitive Unmasks Corruption from a Secret Caribbean Location

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 People I went to school with that have made me not friends that think I captured and killed a kid. Because that's how it's framed. I have the biggest Netflix documentary, the biggest story that should be everywhere, and I can't get it covered because the FBI keeps calling people up. They will never, ever bring this to trial. I guarantee you everything I have left. This prosecutor will never allow this to come before a drug. I'm dying and I'm begging for help because the FBI keeps intimidating.
Starting point is 00:00:25 My life is on the line here. And they've destroyed my career. They've destroyed my health. They destroyed my finances. I mean, everybody in the island knows I've wanted. I've been front page news down here numerous times. Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen of the jury and your respected judge. I just want to let you know that I said this child was born in Pennsylvania, but oops, he's actually born in Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Who knew? And Mr. Howard was not in the United States in November, so he couldn't have taken him. Oops, who knew? And oh, by the way, on the FBI website where it says he's a former Titusville man, he's never lived in Titusville. he's never going to spend a night there. That's where his ex-wife ran and kidnapped and hid the child with. Yeah, he's better off just having you stay there and dying. That's his plan.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I'm going to be doing an interview with Chad Hauer. He is currently in St. Kitts. He lives in St. Kitts. He has been falsely accused of a crime, which he's, not guilty of and we're going to get into a story. It's super interesting and check it out. I kind of start at the beginning, like I'll just talk a little bit about like, you know, where you were born and raised. I know. Who are you working for when you were arrested, by the way? When I was arrested, I was still contracting for Microsoft. So I have been a Microsoft
Starting point is 00:01:51 employee. I have been a Microsoft contractor. I was a Microsoft Regional Director. I was a Microsoft Regional Developer Advisor. I had a variety of roles at Microsoft from software development to government liaison to public speaking. I had a senior position at Microsoft. But by the time I was arrested, my ex was already causing a lot of issues. Stop that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was just a quick question. I was just curious. I remember I was like, I was like, who was a big company like Ford or, but anyway, Microsoft. I'm sorry. I want to kind of start at the beginning. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I want to like where you were born. where you're born kind of raised like how you you know were you in the military did you you know like what brought you to working there what brought you to the situation
Starting point is 00:02:33 but let's start at the beginning which is basically like where you were born if you don't know and take your time by the way take you like don't rush through it like I'm not in a hurry okay well I was born in Erie Pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:02:45 and I grew up in towns called Erie and Edinburgh both of which are in Erie County and I lived there until in 1994, and I left the state of Pennsylvania in 1994 because I started getting more successful in my career. And I also wanted out of the state of Pennsylvania because it's a highly bureaucratic state. And anybody who lives there. Sorry, what was a career? What? Software development. Oh, okay. So I was starting to advance
Starting point is 00:03:14 in my career, and especially at the time, Erie is a former industrial town. It's, you know, it's lost like almost half its population in the last 50 years or something. Right. It's squarely between Buffalo, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh. I mean, it's dead center of the rust belt. And so, you know, there just weren't a lot of opportunities there. The economy wasn't fantastic. And Pennsylvania is an extremely bureaucratic state to live in. And I just didn't want to live there.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So I had some job opportunities and we finally got out in around 1994. And I went to a few places on short-term contracts to Texas. And then we were going to move to Michigan. I was working Michigan for a while for Kelly temporary services at the headquarters. And then I got another job offer. So I actually left that job and we moved to Tennessee in 1995. And then I lived in Tennessee. I traveled while I was in Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So we got married in 94 and we still in Pennsylvania. And then we moved out of Pennsylvania pretty soon after we got married and ended up in Tennessee in 1995. And our son was born in 1996. And other than travel, I stayed in Tennessee until 2001 when I left the United States. Even while in Tennessee, go ahead, what were you working for at that time? In 95, I was working for a company called Tennessee Eastman, which you may have heard of Eastman, Kodak. And a lot of people don't realize that Eastman and Kodak actually separated into two companies in the early 90s or sometime in the 80s. I remember exactly when.
Starting point is 00:04:43 But they're actually separate companies. And Eastman was one of the largest chemical companies in the world at the time. still is. They're like the size of, you know, Dow Chemical, I think was the only one that was larger. And the world headquarters is in Kingsport, Tennessee. And so they had hired me and paid for us to move to Tennessee. And I worked at Tennessee Eastman for a while. And then it was a very nice company, very nice people, but the work was, I found to be rather boring. So I started to look for other job opportunities and I started working for the companies that I would start to travel. So I think the first company I worked for was in Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So I would go to Connecticut one week and then come back to Tennessee for a week. And my wife at the time, who I call Vecna, that's my nickname for. I don't know if you watch Trader Things or not. But Vecna is basically the demon in Stranger Things. And I say it's to protect her privacy, so I'm not publishing her name all the Internet, although it's all the court documents. So I call her Vecna. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:38 All right. So, you know, we had a house in Tennessee, 10 acres. she had um she was in the horses i bought her um four miniature horses and we bought a horse farm and i commuted to tennessee eastman and then after that i said i started working connecticut so i'd go to connecticut for a week and then i'd come home so i'd go to connecticut for five days come home for nine go to connecticut for five home for nine that kind of arrangement and then i ended up leaving that company but i kept that similar arrangement i ended up working for a company in south carolina and i would drive because it wasn't that far it was like two and a half hours to
Starting point is 00:06:11 South Carolina. And it was the same type of arrangement. Gone for five, home for nine, gone for five, home for nine. And then I did the same thing for a company in Texas and then Arizona and until 2001 when I left the United States. So in early 2001, she and I separated. It was really a marriage that should never have happened. We got married at 19. And my son was born when I was 21. So it was It was really just a marriage that shouldn't have happened. We didn't really hate each other, but we were more of friends than anything else. And but by 2001, there were some, some cracks up here and it just wasn't going to work. Again, I didn't feel like we hated each other.
Starting point is 00:06:53 So I was just like, well, you know, this just ain't work anymore. Right. I said, let's just, let's call it quits and let's not put any more into this, you know. So, I decided, well, when you say that things weren't bad, like, I mean, so you're not talking about, like, there's the police are being called. there's no no no is it's just no we just not good together anymore yeah well we were never really good we were just more friends that ended up getting married i'm autistic and i didn't know that until much much later in life i didn't know it's autistic till it was either last year before i can't remember but it's in the last year or two i found out was autistic and we were more friends that just ended up
Starting point is 00:07:33 getting married basically at 19 we never we never really fought we never i can't remember our time i mean Yeah, we had disagreements, but we never really had any sort of, not even like verbal fights, really. And, I mean, even from her side, there were never any accusations from her of any sort of violence, verbal, or physical. None, ever. But by 2001, it just, you know, I kind of got this position and I thought, well, this is life. And I had been raised in such a way that when you're married, you stay married, right? Right. And I just thought, well, it's my life.
Starting point is 00:08:07 If I got a kid, I like the kid. I've got a good job and she raises the kid and but by 2001 I just I I didn't want this for the rest of my life anymore right so I said okay let's just call it quits and I gave her the house I gave her one of the cars which was reasonably new at the time it was I think it was a after look but it's only like a couple of few years old it was in good shape and um I paid her like about $3,000 a month in alimony and child support for a few years. So she was set. And I thought, okay, we can just work this out, right? And since I didn't have a place to live, I actually went and lived with her brother and his wife, her brother and her sister-in-law for about a month because I had nowhere to go. In her parents' former home, actually, where we used to live when first got married. And I had been already traveling overseas since 1997 for conferences.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So I was already an international conference speaker and I was quite well known. And I constantly had job offers. I mean, I was turning down job offers even when I was not looking for a job in the 90s and 2000s. I was very successful in my career and I was one of the top people. And the IT industry was super hot back then. So I always had job opportunities. I'd already been traveling to Europe since several times a year since 1997 to speak at conferences. And I always wanted to live in Europe.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And the only reason we never really moved is Vecna didn't want to move to Europe. And I got that. So that wasn't really, you know, I didn't hold that against anything. But since we were separated and I had no place to live, I, you know, started looking at the job offers I was getting in. Pretty much right away, I got offers overseas. So I was like, okay, let's go. And plus, even the offers overseas, they didn't seem to care where I lived anyways. I went overseas and I kept speaking of the conferences and I just ended up, you know, working
Starting point is 00:10:14 overseas. And I would come back into the U.S. and I thought, okay, well, we'll finish this divorce up and everything will just be kind of amicable and, you know, let's keep the child where he is because he was born in Tennessee. He was raised in Tennessee. That's the only house he had ever known was there in eastern Tennessee. And I just thought that, you know, no judge is going to give me a, at the time, let's see, he was, he was still four, he hadn't had his fifth birthday yet. So he was four initially. Then I thought, you know, no judge is going to send a four-year-old overseas. And I'm not really in a position to provide full-time care for a four-year-old with my work. Right. And so there had been some issues of concern, but I, at that
Starting point is 00:10:58 point, now this did change, but at that point, I never really had any concerns for his welfare. And so I just felt that she was really, at least at that stage, the best option. And so I thought, well, I was still traveling back to the U.S. a lot because I had conferences in the U.S. too. So wherever I was, they had fly me to the U.S. and I figured, well, when I come into the U.S. several times a year, I'll just book some extra days. I'll fly to Tennessee or drive to Tennessee, depending wherever I am. And in the summers, I'll come, and I'll spend time with them as I can. And as he gets older, I thought, okay, well, he can come in the summers with me. And I was really just quite naive about who she was.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Because pretty much immediately, she started interfering right away. So initially, the divorce didn't happen right away. It took a little more than a year to get the divorce to go through because I was not living in the U.S. and divorce in the U.S. is a state law. And so you're not a resident of any state makes a little bit difficult. So I found a lawyer in Knoxville who would assist me. and I had to have her basically file for the divorce because I couldn't because I was no longer in a state.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And things started right away because we put together a parenting, a draft parenting plan. And it was basically along the lines of, you know, I'll call and, you know, she'll just let me on the phone. And when I come in the country, I'll give her, I don't remember the exact details of the original parenting plan. It was something like I'll give like two weeks notice when I'm coming in the country. And as long as it doesn't interfere with his schooling, then I would have certain visit, rights where I could pick them up and take them for certain amounts. And it was like there were certain time periods. Like I could take him for 48, 72 hours or there were there were certain regulations, right?
Starting point is 00:12:41 But I was just trying to work things out. I wasn't trying to, you know, cause any problems. And she just started right away with, um, interfering. I would call and they would never be there. It would always go to the, the answering machine or she'd only let them talk for a minute. And there were already problems from the get-go. and Tennessee requires you when you get a divorce and you have a child
Starting point is 00:13:04 you have to go to arbitration to try and resolve things instead of having to fight it out in the courts and waste the court's time and that's a good thing. All right. So we went to arbitration and I remember this very clearly
Starting point is 00:13:18 because the arbitrator was a woman and she was just about to retire this had been a career. I remember how long she'd been in arbitration but it was a long time. It was decades. and she was retiring and we were one of her very last cases and we were in arbitration
Starting point is 00:13:34 and the arbiter asked her to leave the room and the arbiter talked to my lawyer and I and she says she says I have never in my entire career which spans decades met someone so intransigent that's the word she used intransigent as your ex-wife and she says I'm going to do something for the first time in my entire career which span decades I'm going to tell the judge there is no arbitration
Starting point is 00:13:58 and send you straight to the court. So it started getting ugly from the absolute get-go. And I was bending over backwards to try and make sure that he saw both of us, and she just wanted nothing of it. Absolutely nothing. So that was 2002 initially, and I'm trying to think, because there was some in 2000, there was 2002 initially.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm sorry, how old was he at this time? well 2002 he would have been five or six depending on what I don't remember which because his birthday's in June okay so five or six and then I got remarried basically when I was overseas I met somebody my current wife who I've been married to her for more than 20 years now and have two more kids with so I'd met her and because the divorce had taken quite a while I was basically already hooked up with somebody and I was ready to be remarried and whether or not I shouldn't got remarried quickly or not, but it worked out. So I didn't win the first time, but I won the second time, and I'm still happily married over 20 years later. Right. So we were basically waiting for the divorce to finish. And once it finished, then I got remarried pretty quickly after that, because we were
Starting point is 00:15:09 already just basically waiting on the divorce to finish. And I don't remember exactly when the divorce went through. I'd have to look, but I want to, oh, no, it had to been 2002. It had to been, I think it was sometime, sometime the first time of 2002 is when it went through. And again, the parenting plan just wasn't working. So I would call and they would never be there or I'd get the answer machine or he'd get in the phone for just a minute.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I would fly into the U.S. And she would agree, okay, you're coming to the U.S. Come for visitation. Come, come, come pick them up and you can have them for the weekend according to the arrangement. I would come and they wouldn't be home. And so it was like all these visitations. I don't remember how many there were, but I can only remember two that actually succeeded initially. And even though she tried to interfere with and it was just horribly nasty about them.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And then she just kept interferingly visitation. We had to go back to court a number of times. She just kept violating the visitation orders. And these weren't like me just showing up at the door. These were prearranged visits. These were things according to the like, hey, I've notified you however many weeks ahead of time it specified. And you've already agreed to these visitations. So you certainly should be at the house when I come, right? and it was just a constant battle. So that went on for about two years. And in 2004, and I can look up the exact days.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So I'm going off memory. So I may not have the exact months when I'm working off memory, but I definitely have the years and the approximate month. So early, well, let's say mid-2004, June-ish maybe. I called and I'd been trying to call and they would never answer and so one time I called and she was outside she would leave me in the house a lot and go outside and deal with the horses
Starting point is 00:17:02 and that's fine it's I'm not I'm not criticizing that that's that was perfectly appropriate and but one time I called and every time my goodness me should be like you know hey it's dad um you there can you pick up and normally nothing but he picked up and I was like yo cool you could get through he's like hey dad what's up? And I'm like, so, you know, hey, I haven't talked to you in a while. What's up? It's like, we're moving to, and I hear the door open, get off the phone, and she slams the phone down. And all I can hear is we're moving to Cherry. And, you know, I don't know where Cherry is. And when you move, you have to go before the court and tell the court, you're moving. You can't
Starting point is 00:17:41 just move, right? Right. And every state varies, and I have to look at this up again, but I think in Tennessee, it's either 30 or 60 days you have to notify the court. And they don't, they don't generally stop you. can but generally it's like we just want to make sure that the parental rights are going to be transferred everything's good where the jurisdiction is going to go to and the court just needs to know and you can file objections but generally you know generally it goes through so she didn't do that she didn't even tell me now prior to this a few months prior and i don't remember one but i think around march sometime in the spring of 2004 she had and i don't remember as an email or a letter or um because she didn't like to speak with me on the phone so we mostly communicated
Starting point is 00:18:20 by email. And because especially back then, living in Europe, and I was, I was traveling a lot. I was in Russia at that time, I think. So it was just a form in Cyprus. We were going between Russia and Cyprus back and forth, between two places. But mail took a long time, especially into Russia. I mean, it could take like six to eight weeks sometimes and sometimes they arrived. So we just replied a, we relied a lot of email. But at one point, she had mentioned because neither of us was from Tennessee and I love Tennessee, but she's like, I don't really have anything in Tennessee. So she was like, do you mind if we move closer back to her parents, which is also where my parents at the time lived. We were both from Erie County,
Starting point is 00:18:56 Pennsylvania. And I said, well, in principle, I'm open to the idea. I understand you don't have a buddy in Tennessee. Alex has been raised there. But if you think it's a better move, I'm certainly open to discussion about the matter. I made it very clear that it was not a, hey, move whatever you want. It was just, yeah, I'm amenable, okay? But it was always, hey, you know, let's discuss it when you think that might happen. Because the way she mentioned it was like, ah, sometime in the future. It was never like, casual thought. Yeah, it was just like, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:19:34 And so I was like, yeah, okay. And then so when I get this, when I talk to him in a few, within a few months of that, that discussion. And he tells me, hey, we're moving to Cherry. And then she slams a phone down. I'm like, this is not, you know. and given the history of her interference and all this other stuff I knew I could see where things were going but I didn't I had no idea really where they were going right because you just can't imagine what happened so now I'm trying to figure out so they stop answering their phone she's not answered me anymore and then I get this letter and she doesn't email this is actually a letter and she mails a a letter to my mother and one of my sisters as well, telling them what a horrible human I am, among other things. Like, yeah, like you're going to turn my mom and my, my mom and one of my
Starting point is 00:20:29 sisters against me. How does that even make any sense, right? Right. And so we get this, I get this letter. And at the time, uh, she, she, she'd like to communicate about email. So she stopped communicating about email. Sometimes she did, but generally what she would do was she would send letters to my mother's house and my mom would fax them to me because it was, was the fastest way since she refused to talk to me on the phone and she didn't want to do email except for what it was convenient which usually it wasn't for her for some reason so she insisted on using mail so i said okay well i can't wait six to eight weeks for a letter that may or man arrive and i may have moved i may be traveling so i made a good letter just start sending my mom's house
Starting point is 00:21:07 so i bought my mom a fax machine and she would send letters to my mom's house my mom would fax me i would fax letters to my mom and my mom would mail him to her and my mom became the post office for us, right? So I'd have to check, but I believe this letter came to my mom's house. If I remember correctly, she said two letters. One to my mom, one to me. One to my mom complaining about me and what a horrible human I was and trying to take her child away and this stuff. And I can provide you with all of these, by the way. I have or hasn't the, the you taking her child away so far hasn't even been an issue. No. And here's the best part. So we get this letters and they're all postmarked Pittsburgh. Now, keep in mind, she's.
Starting point is 00:21:45 lives in Tennessee as far as we know, but we get these letters postmarked Pittsburgh. And the letter to me basically says, um, we've moved. I'm not going to tell you where. We've moved somewhere in Ohio, New York or Pennsylvania. And, uh, if you want to talk to me, you can use my mom's address, her mom's address. So she's kidnapped him at this point. Right. Um, now once I found out they were moving to Cherry, I didn't know where Cherry was, but it's
Starting point is 00:22:15 Before when she talked about moving, she had mentioned that she was looking, she was thinking about eastern Ohio, north, eastern Ohio, western Pennsylvania or western New York because she wanted the Raymond rule. Do you ever watch everybody loves Raymond? Yeah. Okay. There's an episode when they, um, when they first start looking for a house, they're still living in Deborah's apartment and she lives in Long Island. And he's explaining to her, she's like, yeah, we should live near your parents. And he's like, no. No. He's like, listen, we need the spaghetti rule. He's like, we need to live close enough that we can get to their house and visit, but we can come home the same day. We don't have to spend the night with them. But we live, we need to live far enough away that they can't, when they arrive, the spaghetti sauce isn't hot anymore, so they won't be over all the time. And so she has a complex history with her own family. And she doesn't get along with most of her family. Her brother's sisters, she just, she doesn't get along with her. She just, she doesn't get along with her.
Starting point is 00:23:13 most of them. She got along with her mother mostly, but her mother actually sided with us most of the time. And I talked to her mother almost at least every other month until she passed away a few years ago. And her mother was a great woman. So she wanted and she hated her stepdad. She absolutely despised her stepdad. So she wanted, I knew that she would be the Raymond rule. I knew that she would probably be around two hours from where her her mom and stepdad lived so that they wouldn't be over all the time, but that they could come in the same type day thing. So that kind of gave me an idea. But that's still a pretty big area. I'm still searching an area larger than a lot of European countries. And so we get this letter. So before the letter,
Starting point is 00:23:57 okay, before the letter, so he says we're moving to Cherry. So the first thing I did was I start searching these areas for every town called Cherry. But before I even did that, I contacted the court and we filed in the Knox County court in Tennessee that she was planning to move. And that she hadn't appeared before the court. So the court issued her an injunction, and it did not tell her she could not leave the state of Tennessee. What it told her was, you have to come before the court before you leave,
Starting point is 00:24:22 and it said a court date. And she was served with this notice in Tennessee. So she was still in Tennessee, and she was served with a notice to appear before the court, and the court date wasn't that far off. It was like a month or something from when she was served, maybe even less. Plenty of time.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah, the court date came. and she didn't show up at the court. And then we got a letter that she's moved to Pennsylvania, but she's not telling me where. Right. Okay. And that letter, I would have to look it up. If you want me to look all these up, I am at the computer, but it'll take me a little time to look them up. But off memory September 2004.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Okay. Okay. And again, it just says, I'm not going to tell you where we are. And it basically says, I'm not going to give you a phone number. If you want to contact us, send mail to my mom's house. not my mom, her mom. And we'll contact you when we feel like it. It actually said that.
Starting point is 00:25:17 That's not the exact words, but because the judge quoted this later. So it was basically, hey, bugger off, we'll contact you when we feel like it. And it was postmarked Pittsburgh. So the court hearing came and she didn't show up. So now I had to fly back to the United States and try and find my son. So I couldn't book a last ticket. They're very expensive. I had to arrange my work schedule, that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But, and this is 2004, now I've been on the internet since 1986, but that's very rare. 2004, yeah, I mean, some people had the internet, but, you know, the internet, it's not the internet of today where everything's online, okay? Google Maps wasn't what you, you know, it's not what you're used to today. No, I know, I remember in 2004 I was using, um, was it MapQuest? Remember MapQuest you would print out? Yeah, yeah. And, but if you remember, even back then map quest wasn't as detailed as the maps are today yeah it could get you from a city to a city but if you wanted to get to some farm in pennsylvania it probably wasn't going to get you closer than the city right right so the details weren't there so now i'm searching cherry
Starting point is 00:26:26 pennsylvania cherry ohio cherry new york and let me tell you there are a ton of towns called cherry something carry pre cherry hill cherry station cherry bee i don't know there's all these places called cherry so now you know and i'm left and the school districts aren't all online at this point so i'm like well he's got to be in school right it's september she can't keep him out of school so my strategy was start calling up all the schools that i can find and but most of these schools don't have email at this time so i'm having to fax so i'd call him and they're like okay you got to fax us a quarter to prove you're the father to faxas identities before we even talk to you and so and i'm calling all over Ohio and all over Pennsylvania and New York and, you know, just not getting much luck.
Starting point is 00:27:14 So I just finally start calling the county level stuff, right? So I just start calling Erie County, Crawford County, or, you know, all these different counties and just the, I call the school administration. Instead of targeting the schools, I'm going directly at the higher level, right? School district level stuff. And there's still several school districts per county, but I just start calling all these school districts. and so I finally start calling ones in Vanango County
Starting point is 00:27:38 which I had no I never thought she'd moved to Vanango County that's two counties away from Erie County it's not a place that had ever been discussed ever it's not a place that she ever had any ties to it's not a place that I ever had any ties to neither had any ties to Vanango County whatsoever but I was running out of options and so I finally called this one school district
Starting point is 00:27:58 and they're like well we can't tell anything but why don't you fax over your orders and then we'll see what we can tell you I'm like, that sounds interesting, right? And so I had all these things ready because I'd already been faxed around, so I faxed it over, and then like, call us back, and I'll call us back tomorrow. So I call back. And they're like, yes, your son has been enrolled in a school called Cherry Tree. It's in Cherry Tree Township. Now in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania just subdivides not all states do this, but in Pennsylvania, what they do is if you're not living inside of an incorporated city, like in Tennessee, if you don't live in an incorporated town or city, you just live in the county, right?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Right. Pennsylvania doesn't work that way. Pennsylvania will subdivide the non-township, the non-town areas into what are called townships. And they're basically municipal administrations for people that live in the country. So she had moved to a place called Cherry Tree Township, which is not on most maps because it's not a town. Right. And so I found, so they said, yeah, your son's enrolled in Cherry Tree. Elementary.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So it's like, okay, bingo. So now we know where to go. So I get a lawyer in Pennsylvania and we start working on that, but we still don't know where she lives so we can't serve her because I have no address. So all I know is that she is in the cherry tree township within Vanango County, Pennsylvania, but still cherry tree township is a rather large geographical area. I mean, it's not country size, but it's, you know, it's not like showing up in a town of a thousand people looking for your son. Right. So we, my, uh, my new wife and I fly to the United States. Um, we stay with my mom who lives in, um, at that time, she's living in
Starting point is 00:29:33 Crawford County, which is generally, these are all northwest-ish Pennsylvania counties, okay? So we stay in my mom and we go to the school and the school is very hostile to me from the get-go. They're extremely hostile. So I'm, you know, I'm just like, listen, I'm not trying to cause any problems here. I've got the court orders. I've shown you that she's abducted him. the court has said she wasn't allowed to leave us said at Tennessee I'm not asking anything special I just want to see my son and this and the school's like no absolutely no I'm like this is ridiculous and they just wouldn't tell me anything they wouldn't give me his address they wouldn't even let me see him nothing like not even like peek in the classroom on him they were just hostile
Starting point is 00:30:22 so we um we got the Pennsylvania lawyer we went to Vanango County went before Judge White and he's like, you know, young lady, you can't stop. So he, you know, and the school stood. So the school said, well, get an order. So I had to go to the judge and get an order to allow me to see my son at the school. And then she objected. So we had to have the police come to the school. So I was only allowed to see him if I went with police.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So they called the Venango County Sheriff's Office and they arranged a time. on what grounds is she is she you know fighting this you know what ground at this point she didn't declare any yet
Starting point is 00:31:08 I'll get to when she started declaring stuff but so far she has declared no grounds none not before the judge or anything she just raises objections so we go and we visit the school the Venango County sheriff sent
Starting point is 00:31:22 a deputy oh I think two of I might remember it doesn't matter but there was a car and some police and so they put me into this like I don't know it's some kind of room some kind of room with the school with the table it's not really like conference room
Starting point is 00:31:34 but like I don't know the teachers could be the teacher's break off I don't know what it is but the teacher's lounge or something and so the police are there and they bring in my son and he's shaking he's just shaking and he's like no he's going to kidnap me and the school
Starting point is 00:31:51 so this is when it all starts coming out and the school's like we were instructed you would kidnap him And that's why the police are here and all this other stuff. And I'm like, I, if you look at what's happened, I am not the one who has kidnapped him. And they're just like, well, she told us you were going to kidnap him and all this other stuff. And they were just, they continued to be hostile. But they did let me speak with him, but he really wouldn't talk to me.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He just wouldn't say much. So I'm like, you know, I said, I need his address and they wouldn't give me a school file. They wouldn't give me anything. And eventually, I don't remember. how it worked out, but I basically convinced them that they, I had a right to see his school file. And so I opened a school file and the first page is his address. So, of course, I wrote that down. Now I have a place to serve her, right? So we go back to the judge of the stuff and now we get, um, so Tennessee is now issued an order finding her in contempt for not showing up to
Starting point is 00:32:51 the court hearing. And they've, they've held her in contempt and they tell her basically, were asked were at another proper legal term, but they're calling her to court again. They're saying he didn't come to the first one. You are in contempt. You need to come to Tennessee before the court and answer for your contempt. And if you want to move, go through the procedures, right? And she was like, no, I'm in Pennsylvania. You judge are in Tennessee. I mean, literally, it was just like that. So we go to the Pennsylvania judge. Pennsylvania judge communicates with the Tennessee judge. He calls him, gets him on the phone, goes back and forth, and he issues an order, ordering her to go back to Tennessee before the judge.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And she told the Pennsylvania judge, she told him, I mean, she didn't actually do the finger. I'm dramatizing a little bit here, but she told the Pennsylvania judge, no. So the Pennsylvania judge said, okay, you want to play, do you? So the Pennsylvania judge The Pennsylvania judge gave me custody temporary custody And she again said So the judge is like
Starting point is 00:34:04 You really want to play, do you? So he called the Vannego County police again And had them remove him from the house Under her protest So they've gone into her house And taken him out with her screaming at the police Now she wouldn't let me go near the house So I agreed to wait
Starting point is 00:34:22 down the road at, uh, there was, they have all these ice cream shops and it was, it was winterish, so it was closed. So I'm like, okay, I told the police, I'm not trying to create any drama here. I'll park up the road. When I met the police there and they're like, okay, we're going to go get your son now. Just wait here. I'm like, okay. So I wait there. They go up the road. They take him out of the house against her will, against her protest, bring one to me. Now he's mine, right? Right. So now I've got him for, that was, by the time all this happened, that was December. That was just before Christmas. It was like December. There's a few days before Christmas. I can look at the exact day. But now we're in December, just for Christmas,
Starting point is 00:34:58 2004. She's had him in Pennsylvania for a little more than two months. She's had him there illegally. Okay. He's not been in Pennsylvania legally. He's been there in Pennsylvania about two months. And already the Pennsylvania judge is already starting to get a lot of the dates wrong in his court order. He's already starting to make a lot of mistakes. But they're not critical at this point. okay but they do show his he's starting out to be very sloppy from the beginning he cites the wrong day that she moved the wrong month even and things like that but hey i'm getting custody i'm not going to nitpick at the judge right he built some of the nation's largest banks out of an estimated 55 million dollars because 50 million wasn't enough and 60 million seemed excessive
Starting point is 00:35:40 he is the most interesting man in the world i don't typically commit crimes but when I do it's bank fraud stay greedy my friends support the channel join Matthew Cox's Patreon so we get him and my whole family we go to Williamsburg Virginia and we stay there for a week have like a family reunion and then we went we moved to Tennessee again and my my second wife and I we rented a place we went to Tennessee before school had to start we enrolled him in school in Tennessee again, and he attended school in Tennessee. Since she kept ignoring Tennessee orders, the judge in Tennessee sent another hearing for March. I don't remember the exact day,
Starting point is 00:36:28 but it was the middle of March. I want to say March 15th, 2005. And the Pennsylvania judge told her, listen, lady, you better show up because I'm giving the father custody. And that's the only way he knew he would show up. So we're living in Tennessee, and we're basically waiting until this March, mid-March court hearing to resolve her actions. Right. During this time, my son has started to warm back up to me and start to tell me some things. And so we put him into therapy, weekly therapy. I think it might even been bi-weekly.
Starting point is 00:37:02 It was at least weekly because he's developed some real issues. And we find out a lot of things. Let me go back to a story first because this is related. So the first thing where I started kind of getting some notifications that she was becoming very possessive. Because until we had the child, she was normalish. But one time when he was around four, this would have been a little before he separated, there was this grocery store in Eastern Tennessee called Food City. It's just a big grocery store.
Starting point is 00:37:31 They even sponsor the Bristol-Five, the Bristol NASCAR races and stuff. They're really big in East Tennessee. And they had this food fair every year. And it was either free or you pay like a dollar. or two to get in and all the food vendors giving away ice cream and popcorn and candy and my son loved it i mean it was like and when he when he saw it on tv he's like dad let's go to the food fair and we had gone the year before and for some reason vecta didn't want to go and so i was just like okay well Alex and i'll go and she's like no you are not taking my son without me i'm like
Starting point is 00:38:03 it's just up the road it's a few miles right uh we're just going to come back to and we were so married we hadn't there was not even talking to not even talk of separation nothing i'm like listen we're married it's our kid i'm just going up the road and she's like no you cannot go you cannot take my son i'm like but he really wanted to go so i was like well screw it i'll take a wrath when i come home because she was never really known for just like screaming or having a you know just mean wrath i mean she might get upset but never really go off on me right so i mean she had like a meet even her family knew she had like a mean streak she was just but she'd get angry but she wouldn't like scream or just she just might get a little a little meanish right right so
Starting point is 00:38:47 she was very quick to get a little bit meanish but it usually never went very far and so I took him and I remember because I'm holding him on he's sitting on my shoulders he's got ice cream and I can remember because I had he had ice cream dripping into my hair I had a little bit of hair at the time because people at the food city food fair like you must you like you have ice cream your hair I'm like yeah I know but you know I'll take a shower I get home and everything was cool. He came home and he came home. We had a grocery bag full of candy and grill of bars and everything they were given out and he loved it. And she was waiting for my door and she was so hot. This is the first time I'd ever seen her doing anything like this. She's like,
Starting point is 00:39:19 don't you ever take my son without my permission? And this was actually when I started thinking about, hmm, this might be, you know, this, this, there's some troubles here. We might want to, I was starting to start to think a little bit about separation at this point. So that was one thing had before we separated. But when I got him, he started telling me other stories. So at first, he wouldn't come out of his bedroom because we'd rent in an apartment. And he was, every time he'd go in his bedroom, he would just cry, cry. And it took me long time to get out of what was going on. And they had all these horses and she had like 30 cats and she had like 20 dogs. And she worked at, she had volunteered at the Humane Society. And later on, she took a job there. And she used to
Starting point is 00:40:05 take my son. What's that? She had 30 cats. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even when I lived there, she had like 30 cats. Yeah, yeah, there were cats everywhere. Not in the house. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, wow. All right. I got photos. Yeah, I got photos. My son one time took a bunch of cats and put
Starting point is 00:40:21 him in a dump truck and run around the house. They'd play dead because they didn't want to follow the dump truck. So, yeah. Maybe it's only 20. Okay, but there were a lot of cats. There were a lot of cat. Okay. Maybe it wasn't 30, but there were probably at least 20. I'm about joking with that. They were really 20. I can name some of them. there was one cat because we had this large bathroom that was like the size of a small bedroom
Starting point is 00:40:39 and we had one cat's territory it would never leave the bathroom so we had to put food and a kitty litter in the bathroom it just never left the bathroom nor other cats went in there just territorial and so but it was a 10 erika horse farm too so my son was used to run it around the horse farm on his own and but we had a bunch of dogs too i don't know how many dogs like five or six five or six dogs right and at this point remember i'm sending her three thousand dollars a month approximately. And this is in 2003, 2004. So that's probably at least $5,000 today. And her house payment was $600. And the house was fairly paid down. The car was paid off. So basically she had no debt other than a $600 house payment, which included insurance and taxes,
Starting point is 00:41:22 by the way. So she should have been able to live on $3,000 or $5,000 equivalent today. But she had these horses and she had babies and she ended up with six horses and she wasn't the fantastic best with money. So she was having trouble. living on that money. And she used to take my son to the Humane Society, even when we were still together, because he enjoyed the dogs and the cats there. And it was good for him. But he knew from a very early age what happened to dogs and cats that don't get adopted, right? They get put down. And she did it on a regular basis. And she was very pragmatic about it. And she just explained to him, you know, we can't feed everybody. This is what happens. Well, out of all the
Starting point is 00:42:00 pets that they had, all the horses, he had one dog. And I have photos of it. Um, I was going through the photos either day, and I found it. I found some. I lost a lot of photos pre-2008 or 2009, but I still have a lot. I still have probably thousands. So he had one dog, and the dog, well, it had a name, but his name was black dog. That was the dog's name. It was a black dog, and he called it, it was a black lab type thing.
Starting point is 00:42:21 He called it Black Dog. He would go outside, and this was like Lassie to him, right? He'd run all over the horse farm, and the dog followed him everywhere. This was his buddy. And the dog wasn't that old. It wasn't in the bad of shape. and I come to find out sorry
Starting point is 00:42:39 I'm not very emotional because I'm autistic I have to lay emotion processing but this is the one story that just it always gets me so after a long time a lot of coaxing
Starting point is 00:42:50 he says black dog is dead and I'm like what happened to black dog because I mean I do black dog I mean black dog was there when I lived there and you know all the dogs were cool
Starting point is 00:43:01 I mean I'm a dog I'm a dog cat person I mean, we have three dogs here. We had three cats. We have two now. We've got a rabbit. We had some fish. I mean, we had two goats.
Starting point is 00:43:10 So we have pets here. And but of course, and so he says, um, mom took black dog to the Humane Society and put it down. And I said, why was, was black dog sick? Because I said black dog wasn't that old. Black dog at that time would have been, no, six or seven, which is mid age for a dog, but, you know, not exactly old, especially of, mid-sized dog like that they should live 13 to 15 years and he says mom said you don't send
Starting point is 00:43:41 enough money for dog food so we had to put him down and i was like she is how and i says how many horses does she have right sticks i'm like you know what horses cost to feed especially in the winter you know and so that's the way started putting him in therapy and there were a lot of like that, although that was probably the worst one. So at that point, I knew how manipulative she really had become. When you kill your own son's dog and you make sure he knows, and then you tell him that it was because dad doesn't send enough money for dog food, and I'm sending her today's equivalent of about $5,000 a month, and she has no debt except a $612 house payment. I mean, I was going to say, it's, look, it's not hard to turn a child away.
Starting point is 00:44:33 from someone anyway. So it's just a little comment there, a little comment there. You know what I mean? Like, you could, you know, you, that, you know, you get, you get, um, um, shoot, what are they, Stockholm syndrome, you know, like, you know, it's not hard to put the blame on somebody else. So, yeah, I can definitely see that. So he's in school, January, February, March. He's calling his mother regular. Hey, we know you probably hit play to escape your business banking, not think about it. But what if we told you there was a way to skip over the pressures of banking? By matching with the TD Small Business Account Manager, you can get the proactive business banking advice and support your business needs. Ready to press play? Get up to $2,700 when you open select small business banking products.
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Starting point is 00:45:46 And my second wife is pregnant at this point. So we can't stay in the U.S. forever and we're just waiting out this March hearing, right? And plus my wife's on a visa, so she only can stay in the U.S. six months anyways. So the court hearing is literally like right before a week or two. before her visa expires. So we're really up against the wall with everything. Plus, we need to either stay and have the child there or leave. And we applied for an extension.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Now, I'm a U.S. citizen, a born U.S. citizen. My wife was on a visa because they would not give us a green card because we told them we do not intend to live in the U.S. Because every time we try to get the visa, the U.S. embassy is nasty, by the way. They're mean. Everybody thinks, oh, the U.S. embassies, when you're abroad, there, you're place to go. No, it's like the International Department of Motor Vehicles. They're generally unfriendly.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Right. hostile. Sometimes you'll find a consular officer who's generally friendly, but as a whole, they're generally hostile, especially to foreigners, especially to foreigners. So my wife, she had been to the U.S. before. It wasn't the first trip. She had a multi-year, multi-entry visa. It wasn't a big deal. But we did not have a green card, and we specifically told the United States, we don't want one. We live in Europe. My wife is a Russian lawyer and does corporate law, and we don't want to live there. So, but we did ask because my wife was pregnant. And so we wrote to immigration and we said, listen, my wife's pregnant. I'm a U.S. citizen. We didn't apply for a green, card, but we have these court hearings, can we have an extension? And they're like, no. So again, the U.S. government is just not playing friendly at all. And this is not something specific to me, I don't think. They're just, they're like just a lot of people. So the court hearing comes March, mid-March, okay? And she shows up. This is in Knox County, Tennessee. And we go through the whole court hearing. And I have the transcripts, and you need to read the transcripts from this date. You need to read these. If there are two things you only read,
Starting point is 00:47:29 You read the transcripts from March and the transcripts from October because the judge is literally yelling at her because she's lying. He knows she's lying. She's come in. She has made all kinds of crazy claims and she's just flat out lying. And so the judge in Tennessee is like, you know, lady, I'm not. So they ask basically ask us what do we want? And I'm like, well, I've tried everything. So send them with me overseas and I'll send them back for the summers.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And the judge is like, I'm not quite ready to do that. And so he asked her what she wanted. And she's like, I'm not full custody and the father never to see him. The judge is like, that's not workable. And he's like, so since the two of you can't come to an agreement, I'm going to decide. So what the judge decides is because prior, I wasn't allowed to take him out of the country. I mean, I could take him to Canada and small stuff like that, but it wasn't allowed to like move overseas with him. And I never did.
Starting point is 00:48:24 So the judge said, here's what I'm going to do. He said, I'm going to, the mother's going to get custody back, because I had custody at his point. So he's going to transfer custody back to the mother. And he's now going to order him to come with me overseas for the summer. So I don't have to come to the U.S. to visit him. He's going to fly overseas, and I'm going to pay for it. And I have one other opportunity throughout the school year during vacations.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I can pick Christmas or Easter or something. And if I pay for it, then he can come overseas on those days too. And I was like, okay, that's acceptable to me. And he told her, though, and this is all in the transcript. I mean, he was really mean about it. He told her, he says, listen, lady, you were in Kemp, down to my court, not once, but multiple times. You took off. You could have come to the court, and you just, you just left.
Starting point is 00:49:14 You didn't tell anybody where you're going. This letter makes it very clear. We'll contact you when we want you and that kind of stuff. He was hot. And he told her, he says, listen, I don't want to see him my courtroom again. if you appear in my courtroom on a violation again I will transfer custody to the father period end of story and just like yes whatever just give me the child so she got the child she took him back to Pennsylvania and early June school finished so he's supposed to come overseas with me at this point
Starting point is 00:49:49 this was 2000, summer 2005, so I was in, I think I was in Turkey at this point, because I was working from Microsoft and when I was at Microsoft, we were between Turkey and Cyprus, because the headquarters was in Turkey, but we had our home in Cyprus and we had a home and they paid for our house in Turkey too. So we were in the process of moving to Turkey. I think by then we were moved to Turkey everybody. I'm quite sure, yeah, by then we were moving to Turkey, so it had been Turkey. Paid for the flight, had the flight booked, and then, she's like you can't make me apply for his passport you can't do it so now we have to get an order so the Pennsylvania judge issued an order ordering her to get the passport and she's running down the
Starting point is 00:50:36 clock too because you can't just get a passport in like three days right right and so we get an order for the passport and we're running out of time we are really running against time and then she's like I don't have the money I'm like oh okay so now I have to like express a check to her to pay for this and she finally complies and applies to the passport and the passport arrives just in time I mean it arrives like I don't remember I mean not long before he's supposed to leave
Starting point is 00:51:04 and but she's like well I can't be bothered to take him to the airport it's too much trouble so I'm like okay I'll have somebody pick him up so my stepdad because my mother is blind but my stepdad's like my stepdad's always been helpful look i didn't grow up with him he didn't even come into my life until i was close to i was like mid to late 20s so i did not grow up with him but i've gotten to know him he's still with my mom he's always helped my mom out he's always helped me out and i've helped him out too but the point is listen i consider him part of the family even though i never grew up with him so he he goes to
Starting point is 00:51:39 pick them up at the arranged time he has communicated with her we have her phone number now because of court's like you got to give us a phone number because she still don't get the phone number so and so my dad my stepdad's communicated it's all prearranged my stepdad shows up they're not oh so now i'm out a 1200 and some dollar plane ticket thirteen hundred dollars i think and again that's you know 2004 2005 money so let's say two thousand dollars today i'm out that we don't know where they are he's not in the plane so it's back to court again right so we file in tennessee because at this point tennessee still has jurisdiction because for jurisdiction to transfer between states
Starting point is 00:52:19 for child custody, a child has to live in another state for six months and they have to live in that state legally, not kidnapped. Right. And some repetitions don't count. And also, the court has to explicitly transfer it.
Starting point is 00:52:35 So you have to go before the one, the court where you wanted to go to and say, I want you to assume jurisdiction. They have to communicate with a prior court of jurisdiction and they have to agree to transfer it. This is all law. Okay? So it's still in Tennessee because he was only in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:52:50 He was in Pennsylvania in 2004 for two months, but he was kidnapped. So it was six months and he was early. So now he's been in Pennsylvania from mid-March until early June. So he's been in Pennsylvania two and a half months legally, but now she's withholding him. So we file in Tennessee because that's the court of record and that's the court that had issued the last order. So in August, there's a court hearing in Tennessee and the judge is like, and she's ordered to show up. She doesn't show up again. She does not show up to Tennessee court.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And I can look up the date, I believe it was August 12th or 14th, mid-August. She doesn't show up. And the judge is like, well, I told the young lady. I told Ms. Oberlander what was going to happen. So I'm transferring custody. So father's got full custody, period. But she's in Pennsylvania. And she's again like, so we have to go back to the Pennsylvania court again.
Starting point is 00:53:42 So the Pennsylvania court is like Tennessee still has jurisdiction. Pennsylvania is not involved in this case yet and he orders her he should have ordered her to comply with the Tennessee order but he didn't he's like well I want the judge to give her another chance because she didn't show up to the court hearing and I'm like yeah you know why she didn't
Starting point is 00:54:00 he says because she wasn't at the court hearing so it's not fair because she couldn't defend herself I'm like well she knew about it she chose not to show up it's not my fault she didn't show up to the court hearing right and this is really important because there are so many court hearings she never showed up to okay So the judge, he kind of comes to a compromise.
Starting point is 00:54:18 He communicates with the judge in Tennessee, and he convinces the judge in Tennessee to hold another hearing. The judge in Tennessee is pissed off now. I mean, he is flaming Cheeto pissed off because she's ignored in least three of his court hearings so far. He's already transferred custody. He's warned her what he's going to do, and she has given him the bird every time.
Starting point is 00:54:39 But he agrees to hold another hearing, and it's for mid-October, I believe, Again, mid-October, you'll find out, okay? If you don't have the docs, we sent you the docs or not yet. Okay, we can send you all the docs. The judge orders another hearing for October. And this time I'm flying back to the U.S., again, interfering in my job. Now I'm with Microsoft.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Now I'm full-time. I'm like, before I was contracting, it was easier for me to flex my schedule. Right. But now I'm a full-time employee, and I have been. So it's really hard to flex my schedule now. It's really quite difficult. So, and the judge in Pennsylvania orders her. again. He says, you have to go to Tennessee and you have to take the child with you. You can't
Starting point is 00:55:19 just show up on your own. You can't set a lawyer. You need to go to this court hearing. And so she actually does this time because the Pennsylvania judge is yelling at her too. Right. And it's the same judgment as a four. So she shows up in Tennessee and she lies. I mean, and the judge is so pissed off at her. And she's flat out lying. She's like, I don't have a lawyer because her lawyers kept quitting on her because she would lie to her lawyers and they would quit, including her female lawyers. I'm not trying to play the misogynist matter, whatever, but she had some male lawyers, some female lawyers, but
Starting point is 00:55:50 even her female lawyers were quitting on her. And so her previous lawyer was a man, I think I think this was Martin. I remember his first name. So she shows up in court and she starts talking crap about her previous lawyer. She's like, oh, my lawyer didn't tell me this, my lawyer didn't that, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And the judge is like, I know your lawyer quite well, lady. He's a lawyer in this county, and I deal with your lawyer all the time. I I've known this lawyer for 10 years. This does not sound like Mr. Martin. And she's like, well, all I can tell you is that's what happened. And the judge is like, I don't believe any of this.
Starting point is 00:56:23 So he says, we're going to have a recess. We're going to break for lunch for a few hours. And he gets the police type person in the court. I think is the bailiff. I don't know if that's a proper turn. Yeah. So the bailiff. He turns to the bailiff and he says, I want you to find her lawyer, Mr. Martin.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And you're going to call him to the court. If he's in the county, you call him. into the court and tell him he is to appear before the court at 2 a p.m. or whatever lunch finished, right? So we take a break, go get lunch, whatever, and her lawyer shows up at 2 o'clock. The judge puts her lawyer, who is no longer her lawyer, onto the stand. Right. And he asked her, he says, listen, if I put your lawyer on the stand, are you going to claim attorney-client privilege? She's like, what's that mean? And he's like, are you going to tell your lawyer he can't say that? She's like, no, my lawyer can say whatever he wants. And so he gets her lawyer,
Starting point is 00:57:12 puts him on the stand as a witness and he contradicts everything she said everything in fact the judge is like she said this before the break and he's like that's not true that's not true that's absolutely not true i mean her lawyer flat out said she was lying right so now the judge i mean he's like you know take a fleaming hot Dorito planted in Chernobyl and mix it with a potato grown there hot type thing okay he's like nuclear core hot and you can see in the transcript and so basically the end result is he's like listen I already transferred custody in August you didn't show up again I don't know why we're having this hearing I only did it because Judge White thought we should have another hearing so I'm here I went through the motions
Starting point is 00:57:54 but if anything my decision has only been affirmed by what I see here the father has custody you get him in the summers that's it go away if I ever see you in my court for so much as a parking ticket you will be in jail this was family court in pensive this Tennessee he has separate courts, so he didn't handle traffic tickets, but you get my idea, right? Yeah, yeah. And she's all mad and so forth. So she's like, and then she asked me, well, can we take him to the zoo to visit with him before you leave him?
Starting point is 00:58:21 I'm like, no, I'm not letting you out of the courthouse with him. So basically, I got him, and I flew back to Turkey with him. And so now he's living in Turkey. And so October 2005 and I enroll in in school, Microsoft pays for all my benefits. So they're paying for a private school, $15,000 a year. And he gets 2005, so let's call it $20,000 or $25,000 today. She starts filing all kinds of claims that he's in an inappropriate substandard level of education. He's in a prestigious international school that costs $15,000 a year and she's making these claims, right?
Starting point is 00:59:07 Right. So despite this, I'm making him call her, because he doesn't necessarily want to call her every week. I'm like, no, you got to call your mom. And she's sending him letters and she's communicating, I'm sending her schoolwork. I'm sending her because I was traveling the world this time. So my son got to go to Greece, Italy, Malaysia, Russia, Switzerland, Belgium, Germany. I mean, my son has traveled all over Europe. How old is he?
Starting point is 00:59:33 Well, at that point, he was nine. Okay. so he's seen the world he's been to the rifle tower he's been all over europe and if we left the house for so much as 24 hours i had an international cell phone i had a Skype number which was u.s i maintained for her so she didn't have to pay for enough calling she could call our u.s. Skype number i bent over backwards to maintain communication there if we left the house for so much as 24 hours if he even spent the night at a friend's house i would inform her i would inform her he has spent her he is spending the night at a friend's house this weekend, here's the address of his friend up the street.
Starting point is 01:00:11 If we went to Athens, I would give her the hotel address and phone number, plus she had my cell, plus she had my email, plus she had my U.S. number. She was never without contact for him. I mean, I was just literally dotting every eye, dotting, crossing every T because I knew what she was like. I, and I have copies of most of these letters. I mean, I have all of them, but I have copies of some of these letters for sure. Everything. Right. So, well, most of the, most mostly everything goes okay, 2005, 2006. Now, 2006 comes, and it's time for her summer visitation. So now it's early June 2006.
Starting point is 01:00:46 We haven't even gotten to the exciting stuff yet. I'm just giving you all the background. Okay. So now it's June 2006, right? Right. And I've, I have to go to the United States for Microsoft, which I did a lot anyways. I would go for Microsoft other things.
Starting point is 01:01:05 So I always had these flights. So I just made my ticket fly like a day or two early. And it matched up with the time he had to be in Pennsylvania. So we flew together from Turkey to Boston. And in some TikToks, I'd mentioned that I'd gone to Seattle. But I learned, I was going through the picture of the day. It wasn't actually a Seattle trip. This was a Boston trip.
Starting point is 01:01:25 The Seattle trip was earlier. So I had to go to Microsoft. I had to go to Boston for Microsoft for a week. So we both went to Boston. I stayed in Boston for a week. and then I left Boston mid-June. And this is all in immigration records. The FBI has proven this.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I have not been in the United States since mid-June 2006, and I was only there for one week, and I was in Boston, Massachusetts. Okay? Okay. So from Boston, I paid for him to go flying to Cleveland. I paid for a flight escort
Starting point is 01:01:53 because his birthday was coming soon, so he was either nine or ten. His 10th birthday was right around that because his birthday was early June. So he maybe just turned 10 or was about to a day or so. So he basically did. And I paid for an escort to fly him to Cleveland. And then in Cleveland, I don't remember if my parents picked him up or her parents or how, but basically he got to her. Okay. And just because Cleveland is a small airport and where she was
Starting point is 01:02:17 in Titusville, there's no airport. So, you know, whether it's Pittsburgh or wherever, it's going to be a drive to an airport no matter where. So got him to Cleveland and then he got on to where she was living in Titusville. And then it started right away. I would call, wouldn't answer. So basically, I didn't get to talk to them all summer. I would call, never answer, never anything to the same stuff. And I knew, we always knew that this summer was going to be a problem. We, we knew, but I was going to comply with it. I always complied with the orders. I complied with every order to a T. You will never find any court filing that I violated any Tennessee order. You will not even find an allegation that I violated any Tennessee orders.
Starting point is 01:03:01 and they don't exist right because I was so I can't don't know the right word for but I was still yeah that might be the right word
Starting point is 01:03:13 I was going to say neurotic but that's not the right word but I was overly careful about applying of complying with everything even though I knew she wouldn't so we knew there was going to be trouble but I thought she didn't even talk about
Starting point is 01:03:25 so then mid August my lawyer in Pennsylvania finds out There's a court petition been filed in Vannego County against me. And there's a whole laundry list of things she says about me, none of which are true, says I was mugged, says our house was broken into, says we were, I mean, just literally makes up stuff. That you want to know?
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah, she claims I was mugged in Turkey. Okay. I mean, what she does is, but what it does is it proves that my son has that I've communicated with her because my second son needed surgery. So when we were in Turkey, we had, we stayed in a hospital. for about a week and in they didn't have any parking in the hospital so I just parked down the road and so we left the car for a week and it was a it was a least car wasn't mine Microsoft paid for it and we came back the back window was smashed and nothing was stolen the car wasn't damaged it wasn't in the car and
Starting point is 01:04:19 there were some Turkish dudes sitting on the porch of a of a house there and I just asked him this is oh yeah they said a couple days ago somebody came and smashed windows of all the cars in the street and really wasn't a big incident right well she turned that into an international and Turkey is unsafe and I'm not having him in an appropriate environment. He's in a substandard school and just comes up with insane number of things. And like Cyprus is near Syria and there's currently a war in Syria because Israel was one of the time Israel had dropped some bombs in Syria or Lebanon or something and she was making a big sick. I'm like, first of all, we're not in Cyprus right now. Second of all, Cyprus is a member
Starting point is 01:04:56 of the European Union and it's separated from Syria by about a hundred and some miles of the Mediterranean, okay? Cyprus is not in any danger whatsoever. There's no way Israel is going to be like, oops, I bombed Cyprus. Right. A member of the European Union. So she just literally, I mean, just absolutely ludicrous things she's coming up with. But what it does do is because the kernel of some of the stuff is true, it proves that I've
Starting point is 01:05:20 been communicating to her everything. I even told her about the car. I mean, I told her all this stuff, right? And now she claims that Europe is an unsafe place for a child, for an American. child to live. Okay. She wants custody and she's not going to return him at the end of the summer. And she waits to the very last minute.
Starting point is 01:05:41 She could have filed this in June, but no, she waits to like right, like two weeks before he's supposed to be on a plane. Right. So Judge White, the same judge in Pennsylvania. So Judge White is Pennsylvania. Judge Fanzler is Tennessee. These are the only two judges involved so far. But there's a lot more.
Starting point is 01:05:58 So Judge White says, well, I'm going to hear the petition. So the child's supposed to be in the play in September 2nd. So I'm going to set a hearing for August 31st. And I don't remember if you ordered me to attend or not, but I'm like, I'm overseas. And I'm like, listen, I've got a job of Microsoft. I live in Turkey. I left the United States in early 2001. I can't just quit my job and show up at your courtroom in like 10 days.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Right. So my lawyer filed says, I can't show up. It's unreasonable. There's no personal jurisdiction over me anyways. They don't have jurisdiction. over the case anyways because, oh, here's another detail. In 2005, when I got full custody, remember I had initial custody 2004, when I got full custody 2005, after the judge was really upset at her. First of all, he did order, he not only did he give me custody, but he ordered
Starting point is 01:06:45 the child to move overseas because he knew where he was in the court order. It says the child is to travel overseas to live. Right. The father is allowed to apply and renew for the child's passport without the mother's approval because she had been blocking before. And because of the history of this case and the mother's noncompliance in the orders and the father's residence overseas that and because a child was born in Tennessee lived in Tennessee and the court is intimately involved with this case the state of Tennessee will hold jurisdiction over this case until the child is 18 now I actually asked the court for that and here's why if I hadn't asked for that according to the international treaties which the U.S. government is a member
Starting point is 01:07:24 which is a signatory to and does apply to the states as well jurisdiction would have transferred to Cyprus at that point because you can't, I mean, if a child lives overseas, it doesn't live and especially, you know, the states can't be just like, oh, well, Alaska is going to get involved in this child, right? So, I mean, countries have rights in these things. So Cyprus had, Cyprus would have gained jurisdiction, not in the initial order, but before summer 2006, Cyprus normally would have been the home jurisdiction for custody disputes. But I didn't feel it would be fair to her to make her dispute anything in Cyprus. So I, I, asked the judge. Well, actually, it was a kind of a combination, but anyways, we agreed with the
Starting point is 01:08:04 judge that Tennessee would be the future place to resolve any issues. And it's in the court order. It explicitly says. And they did hold jurisdiction to these 18. We have court hearings up until the year 2012 in Tennessee proving they were holding jurisdiction. Okay. So the, so Pennsylvania judge, August 31st, has his hearing. He's like, okay, the father couldn't show up. I get that. and she's like, I'm not returning them. And the judge is like, the Tennessee order is valid. Tennessee still has jurisdiction and you have to comply with the Tennessee order. And she's like, no, I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Now she's flipping the bird of the Pennsylvania judge again. So the judge ordered her to hand him over. There's a specific order to hand him over to my parents again. And she didn't want to do again. So police had to get involved and police didn't remove him. And he ended up coming back to Cyprus. okay because we'd move back
Starting point is 01:08:59 to Cyprus at this point we were always legally residing in Cyprus but we had gone to Turkey short term but we always had the house in Cyprus we had a house in Cyprus
Starting point is 01:09:07 since 2002 okay and so that was our legal residence and my wife had a business there and so we had all these ties my son was already
Starting point is 01:09:17 enrolled in a Cyprus school which he had attended before so it wasn't the first time so he's enrolled in a private school in Cyprus again a private English school and so the judge says you got to put him on a plane lady so he she and the police take him he's on a plane September 2nd 2006 and he arrives back in Cyprus September 3rd and I have the passport stamps I have
Starting point is 01:09:38 the court orders all this and we're like okay well that's good well now she somehow gets the judge issue another order so September 6th or some I forget exactly what it was she tells the judge that my son was born in Pennsylvania and her parents live in Vanango County neither of which are true Her parents have never lived in Vanango County. And in the court or in an order, it says that my son was born in Crawford County, Pennsylvania, which isn't even Vanango County. So it's not even the same county as the judge is in. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:07 But he's saying this and he's saying, well, since the child is overseas and he was born in Pennsylvania, I can take jurisdiction now. He can't because, first of all, I have custody. Tennessee said they hold jurisdiction. He's 18. He's not lived in Pennsylvania for six months because some. of visitations do not count, and he was only there less than three months anyways. So he uses this fact that her parents live in Benango County and that he was born in Crawford County,
Starting point is 01:10:35 Pennsylvania, and takes jurisdiction. But the problem is neither of those are true. Okay. My son's not born in Pennsylvania. So the judge has no basis to take jurisdiction whatsoever. And if you're going to take jurisdiction, you have to communicate with the previous court of record of jurisdiction. He doesn't do that. He does not contact the Tennessee judge. Now, this is the same Tennessee judge he talked to in 2004 numerous times and 2005. So he knows the judge in Tennessee. He knows the case. He knows all this.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And he's just like, okay. So now, for some reason, he says, I have to show up to court again. And it's like, dude, what's going on here? Right? He's given me short notice to fly to Pennsylvania from halfway around the world. And so we objected.
Starting point is 01:11:20 And he's like, okay, well, you don't have to appear, but your son has to appear. And you're like, you want me to take my son out of school and fly him on short notice back to Pennsylvania without me. And you said he was born in Pennsylvania? So we object to all this. We object he's not born in Pennsylvania. I do send lawyers, all that stuff. So I don't show up. The judge said to show up, but I didn't send my son. So the judge gets pissed off. My lawyer objected. He was not born in Pennsylvania. Her parents didn't love in Ventigo County. You have not contacted the judge in Tennessee. You don't have
Starting point is 01:11:54 jurisdiction. He's not lived there six months. So the judge gets pissed off. So what he does is he anyways, your lawyer tells them all this and he just all of that. Yeah, yeah. So what the judge does is he finds an obscure provision to take what's called emergency jurisdiction.
Starting point is 01:12:11 The problem is even to do that, he doesn't have the jurisdiction to do it because a child was not born in Pennsylvania. He doesn't even have the jurisdiction to do this. Right. Now that was November 6th. Okay. Now, my son was not in the United States. Now the thing is, if he took emergency jurisdiction
Starting point is 01:12:28 because he was considering all these points that she made about Turkey and Cyprus was so dangerous that it's not a proper place for the child to live. But she'd made these claims in August. He had a hearing in August, and he didn't decide to act on any of them. If he had any concerns for the child's welfare, he could have held the child at that point. I mean, he would still be illegal. But you would think that what a judge would do is hold the child at that point, not have the police remove him from her and put him on a a plane back and then hold the hearing two months later. Does that make any sense to you? Yeah. Yeah. What, that you would, he, he should have done it at that time. Yes. Even then he didn't have
Starting point is 01:13:04 the jurisdiction though. Okay. So I want you to understand. Even then he did not have the jurisdiction. Is he senile or? He's been on the bench since the late 60s. Yeah. He's just, he's a cowboy. He's in a rural county. There's only two judges. He's a senior judge. He is the absolute shit king of the county. Well, you have to think, I've seen where literally judges are in their 70s and 80s, and they are wheeled, they wheel them into the, into the courtroom in, you know, in their wheelchair. They have like a ramp. They ramp them up.
Starting point is 01:13:39 They put them in it. They sit down, the, you know, the clerk will tell them what's happening, like what they're doing. He wasn't far off that at that point. Yeah, like it's like literally, they have no clue what. Yeah, he would have, he was. was in his 60s at the time, if not 70s. Okay. So, yeah, he's
Starting point is 01:14:00 pretty old. I mean, yeah. For something that really does require mental, you know. Yeah, but he's just a cowboy. He's pissed off. So he doesn't right doing this. So we think, okay, well, what can we do? So what he does is he issues a temporary order,
Starting point is 01:14:16 an interlocutory order, and he does all this intentionally. Here's the wickedness of this. He knows what he's doing. He knows that he cannot issue a final order. So he issues an interlocutory order and here's why he did this. Interlocutory orders in the state of Pennsylvania are unappealable. You cannot appeal them. So now he stuck me with an order. So what he did is he says, well, the mother has temporary custody until the father appears before the court. So he's done to me what he did to her twice before. Well, no, he only gave me custody once.
Starting point is 01:14:48 So he only did that once before, but he ordered a court. So basically, he's like, well, the father didn't show up the court, but he had no jurisdiction to order me to court. I mean, uh, if, if China tomorrow's order, if China tomorrow calls you and says, you're to show up in China two weeks from now and you've never lived in China and we're saying this because your son was born in China. You're like, my son was not born in China. I mean, we knew what was going on in the beginning, but I'm sending lawyers the whole time, right? So I'm sending representation. It's not like I'm ignoring the court. So what he does on November 6th and he's like, well, the mother has temporary custody. And so we're like, okay, so we try and fight it.
Starting point is 01:15:26 He holds another hearing for December 27th. And again, I can't, I don't show, but I send a lawyer. And he's like, okay, well, nothing changed. So he issues, um, a bench warrant for me or not, not, it's not even a bench warrant. He had to figure what it, but he issues something to order me to come to court. And I don't because I'm like, we object to the whole time. There's no jurisdiction. None of this.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I live overseas. Um, I'm not ignoring the court, but none of this is just whatsoever. Right. And we try and appeal the order, by the way. So we try and appeal the order. I think you had 30 days. So we appealed the order. They deny the appeal because it's an interlocutor order.
Starting point is 01:16:00 They actually say you cannot appeal into lock it to order. You cannot. Right. And he's done this on purpose. He knew exactly what he did day one. So now December comes along and her phone no longer is working. Because I'm still having, through all this, my son's still calling her. I forget it was like twice a week or something.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I mean, it was very vigilant. And I was very good about this. And her phones gets disconnected. And I, so it's Christmas, the lawyers on vacation. So when I have a copy, this January 13th, 2007, my lawyer sends a letter to her lawyer. And I could copy all this saying, uh, her phone's been disconnected. It's making it difficult for her son to communicate with her. Can you give us a new phone number?
Starting point is 01:16:42 Because let a phone, there's no way for him to reach her, right? I mean, yeah, you could send mail, but I'm having trouble getting the child to talk to her on the phone every week, twice a week. You think he's going to sit down and write a letter that's going to take? eight weeks to get to her. Right. Right. So she never responds. She never gives us a telephone number. Nothing. And then the mail that I'm sending starts coming back as undeliverable. So now I have no phone and no address for her, right? Okay. So now June 2007 comes around and it's time for her summer visitation. The problem is, I don't know where she's at. And she's got a conflicting court order. So if I send him, I'm never going to see him again.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Right. There's a Tennessee order still standing. So now we have two orders from two different states that are conflicting. It is impossible to be in compliance with both these orders. And one of them is not only illegitimate, but it's a temporary order. So Tennessee is a permanent final order. So it is impossible to comply with two states having conflicting orders. So we figure, okay, well, we can't send them. So what we're going to do is we're not going to sending for 2007, I will be in violation of the Tennessee order. But if that's the case, she has to go to Tennessee to say I'm in violation, right? Have you guys, yeah, have you ever
Starting point is 01:18:01 mentioned any of this to Tennessee? Like, this is what's happening in the other state? Yeah, I'll get to that. Okay. Sorry. Yeah, that's okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, we mentioned a little so. Plus, she's been told if she goes back, she's going to be in, she's going to spend some time in jail, whether or night or whatever. So she never goes back to Tennessee. Never. Right. Never. But if I'm in violation of Tennessee order, that's the only place that can find me in violation.
Starting point is 01:18:27 She can't go to Wisconsin or Alaska or Canada. And she has to go to Tennessee, right? Unless the order has been adopted into a new place, which it has not been. Okay? So we have no contact for her. No phone. No, some mail. I think I started sending to her mom's house or something, but we had some limited
Starting point is 01:18:49 communication. And I basically, you know, would basically like, well, you have conflicting orders. If you, if you have any issues with my actions, take it up with Tennessee, was our position. That was our position. Always our position. Communicated by me, communicated by lawyers to her lawyers, always my position is that, yes, I did not send him in 2007 because it was impossible. I don't know where she is. I don't have contact. She refuses. And you have conflicting orders. These orders need to be resolved okay right so then 2007 passes and nothing really happens and then i don't know if this there are some other things that happened but i don't remember it was either late 2007 or early 2008 i don't have the exact dates on these but it was late 2008 so the first thing is um
Starting point is 01:19:41 the pennsylvania state police call my mother who lives in pennsylvania but not in venango county she lives in Crawford County, which is nearby, but not the same county. And she gets a call from the state police, and the state police have a kidnapping report. And they would like to speak to me, and they've been given my mother's telephone number, which is stupid because Nancy or Vecna still has my U.S. phone number. She could have given the state police my direct contact, but she chooses to involve my mother for some reason. So my mom calls me, and she's like, a state police want to talk you, they said you kidnapped your son. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:20:19 And so I called the guy and it was in Benango County. I remember the Tituswell barracks or whatever and I speak to the state police officer. And he's like, wow, I'm surprised he called me. I'm like, well, why wouldn't I? Which is, I have a report from your ex-wife that you took your son from her house. I'm like, that would be pretty difficult considering I'm not in the United States and I haven't been for well over a year now and I have full custody of my son. And he's like, well, why don't you just?
Starting point is 01:20:45 send me over copies of the court orders. And so I sent him over. And I asked him, I said, listen, here's what's going on. Can you at least file, can you charge her with filing a false kidnapping report? And I don't know if she explicitly told him I came into the house or just led him to believe that. But he was definitely under the impression. He was, when I called him, he did not know as a custody issue, but he did not know that the judge had sent him overseas. Remember the last time he was in the United States, a judge ordered him to be on a plane by police. So if anybody kidnapped him, it's the judge or the police. I don't know how the stuff works.
Starting point is 01:21:18 But I, you know, the state police officer was not under the impression. He didn't know about that. He was under the impression. He knew there was a custody issue. He knew his father. But he was under the impression that I somehow physically secured him from the house. Whether or not she explicitly told him that or just led him to believe it, that was his belief. And he was investigating it, right?
Starting point is 01:21:38 And so I said, can you at least charge her the file was following a false kidnapping report? because she's continually harassing me. I don't even know where she is right now. And he's like, no, she's just a distraught mother. He says, I've not officially filed the report yet. I'm just at the investigatory report, investigatory stage. So I'm just going to put this report aside and not file it.
Starting point is 01:21:57 And I'm like, you know, but I'm still just like, okay, maybe she'll go to Tennessee, right? So then, and I have a bunch of the return letters, by the way. She not only, not only for someone under Lurable, but even before she moved, she started refusing them. I got, because I would send them certified. I, because I knew it was going on, so I would start,
Starting point is 01:22:19 because once they started coming back, I started sending certified or register, whatever it is that you have to personally sign for it. Yeah. Right. And one of them came back, not undeliverable, refused. She refused the letter, flat out.
Starting point is 01:22:33 And I have a copy of this, so I'll get all this. And so I'm still just thinking, okay, where's it going from here? But I'm thinking, okay, the Pennsylvania State Police, I explained it to him, is going to go away. Some point she's going to have to go to Tennessee. This is it. She's not going to do any more crap, and we're just living our life, right?
Starting point is 01:22:49 So then sometime, and I don't remember, this would have had to have been prior to April 2008. So this was probably early 2008 at this point. The FBI, two FBI agents show up at my mom's house. Now the FBI is involved, right? Right. So now the FBI shows at my mom's house and tells my blind mother, who can barely walk because there's multiple sclerosis at this point. She later is in a wheelchair, now she's in a hospital bed,
Starting point is 01:23:17 but at his point she could still stand up with a leg brace. Basically tries to intimidate my mother and tells her if you don't cooperate. I don't care if you're blind, we can take you away. No, not my mom's like, yeah, and my mom's like, I live in a town of 3,000 people. I'm a pillar of the community. Go ahead and do that and see what happens. Because my mom is really well known.
Starting point is 01:23:36 She works with charities. I mean, the whole town knew her. Right. And my mom was literally like, yeah, let's go. I mean, she wasn't quite that, but she was intimating to them that it would not look good for them to do it. And so they kind of got the clue and eventually left. So then I get a call from my lawyer in Tennessee. And my lawyer says, I've just got a call from the FBI.
Starting point is 01:23:59 And my lawyer in Tennessee in Knoxville is one of the senior lawyers. He'd been practicing for about 10 years. He wasn't like in his 60s anything, but he was a prominent lawyer. Right. And he says, I've never had the FBI call me before. He says, I've never been so scared in my life. I thought about dropping your case and they want me to, but I'm not going to. to. What a fuck. Jesus. Like, that's how you know we live in a police state. Then they start
Starting point is 01:24:19 calling my friends. Yeah. In Pennsylvania. I start getting Facebook messages from like, yo, dude, what the fuck did you do? The FBI was just at my door. Or I just got a call from the FBI. And I'm just like, what the fuck is going on? So I had at this point, figured someone's going on. And I had a Google alert. They don't really work anymore. but back in these days, you could go to Google and you could put in a search term and it would notify you every time you popped up. And because when I was at Microsoft,
Starting point is 01:24:49 they used to make a joke about me. They're like, just Google the dude. He's got over a million hits. And now I don't anymore. But there used to be over a million hits on me in Google because I was a really a top person in my career. And when I went to Microsoft, they actually targeted me for a hire.
Starting point is 01:25:00 I was a targeted hire. So I didn't go to them. I turned them numerous times and they finally got me with enough money. Right. So I decided, well, let's put a Google alert out on my son. Just in case something pops. up right right so we find out um april first my lawyer oh sorry my lawyer gets a notification
Starting point is 01:25:22 that april first 2008 april's day she went back to the pennsylvania judge and got a bench warrant for me okay not for kidnapping not for anything just a bench warrant a bench warrant for a failure to appear to his court nearly two years earlier that's it a bench warrant nothing else a clear bench warrant. Okay. And I'm like, oh shit, okay, now I get a bench warrant. Well, I still can't do anything about any of this. And my lawyer tries to fight it and the judge is like, no, bench warrant.
Starting point is 01:25:52 She then takes the bench warrant to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. It turns out the FBI is coaching her and helping her this whole time, including the state police. The state police, the FBI told her to call the state police first. And Nick Mick and FBI, I'm not sure who is the lead, but between Nick Mick and the FBI, the two of them are working together to coordinate this bullshit kidnapping. and they know it's bullshit the entire time. So within a week of that bench warrant, she takes that bench warrant and takes it to Nick Mick and uses the bench warrant to get him listed.
Starting point is 01:26:18 And I have the original poster. I have several of his posters all throughout the years. So Google Earth pops up like April 8th or something. Now he's listed as a missing child. And it doesn't say that it says he was last seen in Titus Phil and he was kidnapped November 6th and he may be in the company of his father in Cyprus, Russia, or Barre. And I forget because they changed a little bit over the years.
Starting point is 01:26:38 But it basically says, We don't know where he is. He might be in Cyprus. He might be in Bahrain. He might be in Russia. And he might be with his father. And he was taken November 6, 2006. That's what it says.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Right? Even though you've even in the states since months prior to that. Yeah. It never mentions anything else. And it says, if you have any questions, call the FBI or 911. So now we know shit's really hitting the fan. Right? But we're still just like, well, go to Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:27:09 go to Tennessee and we're getting federal lawyers we're talking to everybody and everybody's like well hope she shows up in Tennessee hope she shows in Tennessee and again I still had no contact oh and also in early 2008 I put a Google alert out on her too so I've been watching to see if she pops up
Starting point is 01:27:26 her house goes up for sheriff's sale so she lost the house. Yeah so she would actually be kicked out of the house a while before and that's why the mail was coming back but now it's up for sheriff's sale she couldn't even keep the house So now I definitely have me I've got nothing on her right This all happened early 2008
Starting point is 01:27:45 And so again 2008 summer comes I can't send them because I mean But in my position always was Because her lawyer would ask my lawyer We're like listen Because her lawyer would be like The father's in violation to the Tennessee order And we're like well then take it up with Tennessee
Starting point is 01:27:58 That's always always our position We never had a position other than take it up with Tennessee Take it up with Tennessee So then 2008 comes and again, I can't send them again. Then 2009 comes. Now, we moved to St. Kitts in early 2008. And the FBI always knew this.
Starting point is 01:28:19 And I've provided, in fact, I made TikToks recently about it. I have court records that they have filed that show that they knew when we moved to St. Kitts. Because I never notified her move to St. Kitts because I don't know where she's at. I have no way to communicate with her. I only have her mother's address. And I am not obligated to communicate through her mother's address. Given every obstruction she's put in the way,
Starting point is 01:28:37 just like that's it right right so yes I did not tell her we move to say kids but she had my us phone number she had my Skype number she had my email she had ways to contact us she was in communication my lawyer so they had ways to communicate with us whether or not we were here sorry what is your tick to account um kuzu the raccoon okay all right and I'll put it I'll put it we'll put it in the description if you yeah please if you go to our website Alex is not missing dot com all my social media is linked there but TikTok is my primary I have 3.7 million likes. I had 8.9 million views this week.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Nice. I had four videos in the last week over one million. Two of them are over two, three of them over two million now. So those are 1.1 million, 1.8 million, 2.4 million, 2.5 million, all from the last week. Okay. So, and I'm starting up YouTube and Instagram. I have those as well, but they're just starting. So now we are where?
Starting point is 01:29:34 2,000, okay, so we've moved us, we've moved to St. Ketz. Yes, she does not know we are here, but she has all her confirmation, and I have no way to reach her, okay? Right. But the FBI knows we're here, and I knew they knew we were here. We were never hiding, as the DA says, and I have court records proving that they knew we were here from March 2008. Okay? They put it in court filings. They put it that immigrant, they said immigration records show that he flew the St. Kitts on March 14, 2008.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I mean, they knew. They always knew. So he's still listed. They know where he's out, but they say, even in the poster, so they knew we're in St. kids. But the poster says they may be in Cyprus, or Russia. Why is that? No sense at all. So we were here before that poster was filed. Okay, before that poster
Starting point is 01:30:17 existed. So the poster goes up. So now we're like, oh, okay, this is a bit of a mess. But we're same thing. Go to Tennessee. So at one point, she'd filed child support against me. They tried to revoke my passport. Um, so I had to pay up $5,000. That they had conflicting, conflicting support order. So I have a support order from Tennessee, which she's never paid a dime. She owes me like $40,000 in child support. The Pennsylvania judge is blocking it. But at one point, he said I owed her for like six months or some crap and just to keep my passport.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Because you live abroad. They cancel your passport. You are toast. Right. You end up back in the U.S. So I could not do that because I needed to work. So I was like, screw it. So I just sent a check for $3,000 or $5,000 or whatever it was just to keep my passport. And then the judge never assessed child support on me again. So if she is custody all these years, why didn't even assess child support on me? And why did Tennessee continue to assess child support until he's 18, right? So by then, my wife was actually, my wife had, my wife had St. Kids Citizenship, and we decided to move here because we needed a, we had a second child, we were about, we were planning on having a third, and we couldn't travel to all the kids. So we decided, let's settle down.
Starting point is 01:31:25 She's got St. Kids citizenship. Let's go to St. Kids. They speak English, it's safe. They have good schools. Everything just worked. I was only living in the Caribbean. So let's go, right? Because in Cyprus, they speak Greek and Russia, Russian, Turkey, Turkey, and I was able to travel. So we just came here. But we were here before any of this was accused. Before, we were here before. They knew we were here. So because my wife's citizen, I became a citizen in St. Kitt's.
Starting point is 01:31:45 And so now I've got a second passport. And that was also a goal, too, because I knew she might try some more crap with my U.S. passport. And I did not want to be without a passport. Right. So, because if you're in a country and they cancel your passport, the U.S. Embassy tells you, and they deport you. Basically, you give you no idea. So we're living in St. Kitts. I'm dual citizen now.
Starting point is 01:32:07 But I'm still traveling. My conference schedule is all over the internet. I'm going to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Belgium, Netherlands. I'm traveling all over from Microsoft still. So if I'm hiding as the FBI in the prosecutor ledge, why am I flying around the world and publishing my conference schedule on the internet? Can you explain that to me? right well
Starting point is 01:32:31 why don't they go to St. Kitts I'll get to that okay okay so May 2009 in a grand jury
Starting point is 01:32:43 which you probably know most don't is done behind a closed door it's done in secret my lawyers are never notified I was never notified none of us were ever notified and the only witness is my ex-wife
Starting point is 01:32:55 the prosecutor and the FBI agent who has been calling my lawyers and showing at my mom's house indicts me in a federal grand jury unbeknownst to me for kidnapping. And the thing is the indictment too.
Starting point is 01:33:11 The indictment actually says that I came the indictment says I came to Titusville and removed him. It doesn't say I withheld him, it doesn't mention this out. The indictment actually says I physically removed him from Titusville on November 6th. That's what the indictment says, which of course is impossible. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I don't know about this. Now they know I'm insane kids. They issued an Interpol red notice for me. Okay. Now, they waited to issue the Red or Pull Red Notice. Now, here's, and if you look on the Department of Justice website, there's a thing called luring. They lure people on purpose.
Starting point is 01:33:41 And I know other people, the FBI's after, who they've also lured, and I can get into those if you want as well. So they could have come to St. Kitts right away and tried to extradite me, whatever. They knew I was here. They didn't. They waited. Now, they knew I was going to be speaking in Belgium in the summer of 2009.
Starting point is 01:33:57 And I think to Netherlands as well. I was speaking to a couple of European countries. And we actually went because my second son needed some surgery. So we went to France and we were in France for two to three months. I figured exactly how long. But we went to France for about two months. And during that time, I built it on my conference schedule. So I was speaking in Belgium on the internet.
Starting point is 01:34:19 And they can see emigrate. They can see all flight records as well. And I can prove this to you as well because they have pulled up my flight records. They have stated they knew where I was all these times. So they knew I was in France They knew I was in Belgium They knew I was in St. Kitts before I left They knew I came back to St. Kitts
Starting point is 01:34:34 But see, they knew I was going to Bulgaria in September ahead of time Because it was published on the internet So they could have arrested me in France They could have arrested me in Belgium They could arrest me in St Kitts But they didn't want to do St Kitts because that's home turf for me
Starting point is 01:34:49 Because here they would put me on house arrest at most Or just tuck my passport and tell me not to leave And go through the court hearings and I'd be on home turf. They didn't want me on home turf. They didn't want me in a nice French prison. They didn't want me in a nice Belgian prison. They wanted me in a Bulgarian prison
Starting point is 01:35:05 so I'd give myself up. Like Sam Bankman freed, you know, when he got arrested in Bahamas, he's like, I'm going to fight this, fight the machine. Then he's like three days, he's like, take me, take me, take me. And they did this to me intentionally. They waited deployment to put him in Nepal until I flew to Bulgaria.
Starting point is 01:35:21 So they indicted me in May and I was in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, several countries, any of which I could have grabbed me, including my home country. No, they waited until I flew to Bulgaria to put me in Interpol. And I had a one-month-old daughter. I had a daughter born in September, and I flew to Bulgaria in October.
Starting point is 01:35:43 So I flew to Bulgaria. They arrested me. I spent three months in and out of five different Bulgarian prisons. They tried to exercise me. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. I thought you were only there for like a few weeks. No.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Yeah. Oh, the Bulgarian story. Oh, my gosh. When I get into this. So I'm going to skip the Bulgarian story a little bit and then I'll come back to it because it's very long on its own. So they tried to extradite me. Initially, I did decide to give myself up, not because of the Bulgarian prison, but because
Starting point is 01:36:15 I'm like, this is all a mistake. This is all, you know, even for her, I'm like, there's no way. And I'm just like, I'll go back. I'll fight it out in court. I'll clear it up. It'll take a month or so. I'll go home to the same kids, right? Because I got three kids now.
Starting point is 01:36:27 One of them's a month old. Before I could even give myself up, I saw the press coverage the FBI was doing it, full court press, Associated Press, Reuters. It was headlines in almost every country in the world. In Pennsylvania, I was the headline, not the front page, the headlines multiple times, and the front page as well.
Starting point is 01:36:50 It came in the radio. My mom found out, because my 14-year-old, I had a brother who is a year, I have a brother that's a year older than my son. And he was on his way out to school and heard at the radio. It was everywhere. And it was not, it was not father who held child overseas. It was international kidnapper held in Bulgaria from Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:37:09 A lot of the cases, a lot of the news articles didn't even mention it was my son. I'm surprised that he'd go with human trafficking. Oh, they tried that too. Oh, I was a drug dealer. I was a spy. You would not believe the things they called me. But the point is, I saw what the FBI was doing to me in the press. And I was like, uh-uh, not giving myself up anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:28 So I fought the extradition. I won because the Bulgarian courts, basically, there's several reasons. One is time travel doesn't exist. The accusations weren't found to be credible. And even if the accusations were found to be credible, once they dug into the details, the accusations, once they had to unseal the indict, the details, the details didn't even match the indictment. The indictment said I removed him. But once they looked at the details, the details said, the thing is, during an extradition,
Starting point is 01:37:54 they're not allowed to look at evidence. They're not allowed. But they are allowed to look at the credibility of the claim. And so the U.S. was trying to claim it was kidnapping. And Bulgaria is like, no, if this happened, if this even happened, which we don't believe it did, it's custodial interference, which is not a crime in Bulgaria. It's a civil offense. It's not criminal.
Starting point is 01:38:12 And it's not punishable by the required. I can't remember it's one or two years by the treaty. And so Bulgaria on the face just says it doesn't qualify. But the judges also said that they didn't find the claims to be credible among other things. So my extradition was turned down and then the U.S. appealed it. And the U.S. lost an appeal as well. When they lost the appeal, the U.S. tried to add more charges, which didn't stick. They revoked my U.S. passport so that they asked Bulgaria to deport me,
Starting point is 01:38:42 but I didn't enter Bulgaria on my U.S. passport because my U.S. passport was 100 pages. It was a special one. But do you renew the U.S. passport? It costs more money. I have to fly to Barbados, at least once. I think back then you had to fly twice, once to apply, once to pick it up. Now they'll FedEx it to you. And it's more expensive.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Where did my Caribbean passport in St. Kitts, I walk downtown and I renew it and it takes like two days, right? So I was traveling in my Caribbean passport simply because it's easier to renew because with all my travel, I would fill it up on a regular basis. Right? So, but Bulgaria didn't deport me because I was there legally. I didn't enter my U.S. passport. And even if I did, I could have just gone to the transit area and then come back
Starting point is 01:39:21 on my Caribbean passport anyways. So the U.S. now told Bulgaria I was a drug dealer. I mean, all kinds of accusations. I'll come back to the Bulgaria thing. So while I'm in Bulgarian prison, by the way, a member of the U.S. Embassy from Barbados flies the same kits and tries to kidnap my 13-year-old son. And yes, I have court records of this too. A regional security officer. See, FBI won't do it on their own. They get other people to do it. Now, these regional security officers, sometimes they're U.S. citizens, sometimes they aren't. Right. When they want to do their dirty work, they said non-U.S. citizens. So he flew here to St. Kitts, trying to abduct my son, got caught, and was expelled by the St. Kitt's attorney general. He was told, get out of the country in 24 hours,
Starting point is 01:40:06 or we will diplomatically expel you. So he left. Then, a week or two later, my ex-wife, whose passport has been revoked, so Tennessee revoked my ex's passport and driver's license for non-payment of child support, by the way. So her passport, she did not have a passport. She never traveled. So basically they put a passport block on her. She was not allowed to apply for a passport. And they revoked her driver's license. Well, while I'm still in Bulgarian prison, she shows up in St. Kitt's at my son's school. So the FBI overrode her passport block. And they paid for her flight in her hotel to come to St. Kitts after they failed to kidnap him. She shows up at his school and the school is like, who are you? And he's like, that's my mom, but I don't trust her. So she tries to
Starting point is 01:41:01 walk off with him from the school and the school's like, uh, no. So they call the police and my, my wife goes and gets my son, takes him home. Then she files in court here to take him home and the courts deny her. In fact, not only did the courts deny her because they sided with the Tennessee order and they saw all their stuff going and she's like, but the father's in Bulgarian prison so I can take him and the courts are like, that's not how
Starting point is 01:41:25 it works. Right. And she's like, he's pending extradition and even the Department of Justice got involved. They told the St. Kitt's governments in diplomatic communications that I was going to be extradited. That it was a done deal. Right. And so basically the courts turned her
Starting point is 01:41:40 down. The judge here even took my son aside. I'm in Bulgarian prison, so I have no influence over my son at this point. I can't communicate with them nothing. And the judge even asked my son, the judge is like, yes, and according to the law, you're supposed to stay here. But do you want to go with your mom? And he's like, no, I'm staying here waiting for my dad to come home. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:56 So she's on an open ticket. She's not remarried. She doesn't work. She has nothing to get back to except her cats. Okay. So my point is here, she claims she hasn't had any contact her son because she disappeared. But she's here. So she hasn't physically seen her son.
Starting point is 01:42:13 since 2006. So it's been it's been about three years, right, since she's physically seen him. But that's by her doing. So you would think she's got an open... She's in St. Kitts?
Starting point is 01:42:25 Yeah. The FBI paid for her to come here. The FBI paid for her flight and her hotel and gave her a passport back. Okay, but right, like, first of all, that's absurd. But... Oh, we haven't even gone to the absurd yet.
Starting point is 01:42:36 They just don't even... That's just something they don't really do, but... Oh, yes, they do. There's a special fund for it. The FBI will deny it, but there's a special fund they have that the FBI funds to the Department of Justice with Nick Mick to help parents get back children overseas. They're not supposed to use it in this case, but they did for
Starting point is 01:42:50 her. And they overrode her passport. Well, if you didn't have a job, how is she staying there? They paid for everything. Oh, okay. Yeah. So she got a Caribbean vacation. We are a top tourist destination. If you don't believe, look it up. We have a billion visitors a year. We are one of the top tourist destinations for Americans. Yeah, it's very nice. If I were to go out the window right now, four cruise ships docked out the window yeah so so she shows up i'm a bulgarian prison the courts turned her down here and so she's only here like four or five days okay i have to look it up it it was it was not more than a week now after the courts turned her down though when she did show up the courts did give her visitation here though they said as long as you're on the island you
Starting point is 01:43:34 surrender so they had to surrender her passport the same council authorities took her american passport they took my son's passport okay so that she couldn't abduct him but they told her they said as long as you're on the island and this visitation order persisted until he was 18 she could have come back anytime she wanted to visit him anytime but she's already here and the courts gave her visitation every other day
Starting point is 01:43:56 after school and weekends and that kind of stuff but they didn't trust her so they had a they had somebody from the child welfare office here basically follow her around the island tail her that's how bad it was They were, they knew where she was. They were tailing her. They seized her airline tickets and everything.
Starting point is 01:44:14 So she's here. So she's here a few days. The courts here processed it really quickly, but they turned her down. They're like, no, the father has custody. You don't. You have visitation, but you cannot take him. And so the day, it was the day or the day after, it was one or two days after she lost in the court here. Now, she could have stayed here and continue to spend time with her son.
Starting point is 01:44:32 That is kidnapped and she doesn't know where he is and, you know, she hasn't seen him. And, oh, my God. She could have stayed on her. a Caribbean island, enjoyed the beach time with him. And while she was here when she's visiting, all she did was run around to lawyers with him. The lawyers here, the, oh, the FBI paid for a lawyer for her here, too. Yeah. So the FBI paid for a lawyer. And when she didn't like what that lawyer told her, she was going to like three or four lawyers around the island because they were all telling her, you already lost in court. She's like, I don't care. I need another lawyer.
Starting point is 01:44:59 So all she did was not even spend time with him. She just kept taking the lawyers. So then, like, two days after the court hearing, like the morning, I think it was two days after the court hearing where she lost. She shows up at the apartment. And I'm still in Bulgaria. I'm still in prison of Bulgaria. And she's like, I've decided to go home. Can I see my son one last time?
Starting point is 01:45:17 And she'd gotten her passport back from the court and all that kind of stuff because she said she wants to leave. She's an open ticket. And her hotel is paid for. So first of all, why don't you stay and visit with your son for a few days? Right. And she shows up like, can I take him to lunch? I'm leave.
Starting point is 01:45:34 My flight's at like 2 o'clock. Can I take him to lunch? And my wife's like, no. Oh, I forgot the part about when they tried to kidnap them. Yeah, I told you about that, but I didn't tell you how. So the regional security officer, first of all, my wife notices people following her around. And not like in a paranoia, like actually following her and following the kids around to school. So we're having to have security to get the kids to school and stuff now.
Starting point is 01:45:57 And then a regional security officer, he goes to one of the police stations here and picks up like a traffic officer. He wasn't a traffic, but he's like, he picks up like the lowest police officer in the country. And not even, he doesn't even go to police headquarters. He goes to, like, a branch outposts of the police that they have in the touristy area. He's like, I'm from the American embassy, and I have a court order on my phone to seize this child. He doesn't even have an official documentation. He doesn't go to the attorney general, doesn't go to the courts. He just picks up some police officer who's, like, three weeks on the job.
Starting point is 01:46:26 And they show up in our apartment and threat to cut the burglar bars off and take the child out. And my wife's having none of this. She calls up, this is small island, it's 35,000 people. Everybody knows everybody here. So my wife calls the chief of police. right away in a lawyer and gets the chief of police on the phone to this local St. Kitts officer, and the chief of police
Starting point is 01:46:44 tells him to bugger off. He's like, you don't have a court order. That's from St. Kitts. You have a court order from the United States, which we don't even know if a valid, and it's on his phone. Right. So he tells the police officer, you better bugger off before you're in trouble. So he buggers off. But the regional security
Starting point is 01:47:00 officer stays behind and threatens my wife some more before he gets to, before he gets to, before he's expelled off the island. But she just disappears. So I'm still in Bulgaria I'm still having to go through all the Bulgarian thing which we need to go back and talk about more So I finally return home
Starting point is 01:47:15 With the help of the Bulgarian government Because the FBI is trying to catch me on the way home too Because there's no direct flights from Bulgaria to St. Kits And I can't fly through the UK Because the UK is a special extradition treaty Which if you're a U.S. citizen, you're gone They don't need evidence Might as well be a state
Starting point is 01:47:29 Yeah, so I can't fly the UK That's the most direct route So I have to fly from the UK to France to France, to St. Martin, to here. And I almost got caught in St. Martin, but I had help. Not only was the St. Kids government helping me at this point. The Bulgarian government was helping me at this point because the U.S. government had lied so many times of the Bulgarian government that they were like, we got to help this dude get out.
Starting point is 01:47:52 And the help of a former FBI agent who I found on Facebook, because I was post on Facebook about what was going on what I got. Because I was in and out, but I was not always in prison. And especially towards the end, I wasn't in prison. I was sleeping in a friend's kitchen. They let me go to help all my documents. stuff. And so I was on Facebook, like, this is what's going on. And this dude that I had on Facebook that I didn't really know, he's like, yo, I'm a former retired FBI agent. And what they're doing to is shit. He says, most of the people in the FBI are pretty decent, but we get a bunch
Starting point is 01:48:20 of a-holes like the one you're dealing with. And I know that type. And I want to help you. So he helped me with some subterfuge. And I flew home on a different name, which is interesting, which you probably couldn't get away with today. And even in 2009, it was a bit iffy. but what I did was I took my middle name and so my middle name is Zachary and so instead of flying as Chad I flew as Zach which in the US you can't I've heard I've heard people in the US like if you're James
Starting point is 01:48:47 you can't even get away with putting Jim on your ticket but overseas you can still get away with some nicknames if it's legitimately tied in your passport and we also did some other things that I'm not going to talk about right now but we took several things and I basically flew as Zach and I got home and because the reason we did that was because we knew
Starting point is 01:49:04 that the U.S. embassy, they had already put a travel flag on me, but they just flagged, they flag the names, you know, they didn't flag exact. Right. The specific name, since it's an since it automatically just looks for exactly that name, it's altered slightly, it's meant. Yeah, we took some other things, we took some other steps as well, but I ended up getting home. I almost got caught in St. Martin, but we knew it might happen. So we flew a friend of mine from St. Kitts to St. Martin. He was waiting for him in the transit area and resolved the issue. and then we both flew back together two St. Kitts. And I arrived like, it's like 10 o'clock at night or something, New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 01:49:41 So I got back like a few hours before 2010. And I've been stuck here ever since. The problem is in 2010, I started getting really ill. And today is one of the best days I've had in over a year, one of the four best days. A lot of days, there's about nine months I could barely talk. I have very dire health situation. Our hospital here is extremely basic. We only have 35,000 people.
Starting point is 01:50:02 They do not have the surgical equipment I need here. We flew a surgeon in 2015 who saved my life, but he can't do it again. The FBI and the prosecutor both know that I'm slowly dying here in horrific pain. It won't allow me to get medical care. And even if I offer to give myself up, he won't try and extradite me again because he said he's wasted so many millions of dollars. He won't try again. And he'll wait for me to travel to be arrested again.
Starting point is 01:50:24 So he's slowly killing me here. The last court hearing was September 2022. He said the only way for me to resolve this is, A, I can travel and get arrested again. and every country be repeated Bulgaria. They'll deny my extradition, but only after months to years in a prison. Oh, they tried to extradite me from St. Kitts as well. I forgot that.
Starting point is 01:50:40 They tried to extradite me from St. Kitts, and that failed as well. So, but basically, I'm stuck here, and he says the only other alternative, and he said this in court, I have the transcripts. September 2020.
Starting point is 01:50:53 They have blocked all our findings. Oh, Pennsylvania dismissed the case in 2021, by the way. So the Pennsylvania case has been dismissed. The federal case is based on the Pennsylvania case. Still holding on to it. Yeah. So the only case, it's the only order that still is still valid is the one that says you have full custody from Tennessee. Well, he's 26 now, so you're not even.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Well, I know, but my son has done TV interviews on ABC and Fox affiliates in Pennsylvania saying I'm not missing. I never was. My mom always knew where I was. Please stop this. And the FBI still doesn't care. He's done TV interviews. And they're my news playlist. he's 26 years old and she sent him letters the entire time too i made a tic-tok yesterday showing
Starting point is 01:51:39 all the letters that she and her mother sent him over the years now the thing is she sent him a letter in 2011 and then um her mother the maternal grandmother i spoke with her at least every other month and so did my son okay now she sent a letter in 2011 and then she didn't send so much she didn't call she didn't come back to visit she didn't even send a letter for over 10 years when Pennsylvania dismissed the case in 2021, for the first time in over 10 years, she sent my son a letter. Now, what kind of mother knows where your son is the entire time never writes, never calls, never visits, and maintains he's missing? Now, Nick Mick listed him as missing until he was 26. They removed him in July of last year. Do you know why? And the thing is, even in April 2008,
Starting point is 01:52:27 when that letter, when that poster first one up, my lawyers contacted Nick immediately and explain the situation. They're like, well, we don't care. We're siding with the mother. And we had people calling Nick Mick reporting sightings of him saying he's in the Caribbean. Nick Mick never did anything. They never even updated the poster. It never even said St. Kitts. His poster never once mentioned St. Kitts. So why does he take down? Okay. Why didn't do that? Because I got on TikTok. And I made a viral TikTok, which got a million views in a period of a few days. And I tagged the Nick Mick account on TikTok. And within 20, hours, they removed his poster
Starting point is 01:53:03 and blocked me on TikTok. And the thing is, they had previously told my lawyers, as well as other people who had contacted Nick Mick, they said, we cannot take the poster down without a court order. Yeah, this fucking, they mean they won't without a court order.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Well, they did when I did a viral TikTok, and they blocked me on TikTok, they blocked me. They were saying they weren't going to do it without a court order, but they could. They said they couldn't. No, I don't have to, I don't check the wording. You may be right, but I'm pretty sure they said they couldn't. Or maybe they did say they wouldn't. But I don't know if they were with me.
Starting point is 01:53:35 I'm just saying, I'm just saying like they could the whole time. They just chose not to. They were just being pricks. You know? And I've been on Interpol Red Notice. I've been through multiple extraditions. I'm slowly dying here. I know I look like I'm good today, but even I took beds before I talked to you.
Starting point is 01:53:56 I had a doctor come to the house yesterday because I can't even get to the doctor's office, so the doctor had to come here. The hospital cannot operate on me here. And they continue to cover us. Oh, and the FBI continues to intimidate media. I didn't have confirmation of this until recently because back in 2009, 2010, I was working with journalists and one of them did say, I was going to do your story, but the FBI called me and told me to bugger off.
Starting point is 01:54:20 I'm not going to do it. And so I knew, oh, yeah, it gets better. Oh, in 2017, 2017, we catfished them. So we had somebody email the FBI to tell him I'm insane kiss. which we've done many times and he and the dude sent me back copies of the emails and the special agent who did all this crap his name is kirk brace he's now retired he retired around 2018 and 2019 he sent back an email and said that they're still very interested in catching me but that the st kitt's authorities are being uncooperative my uncooperative he means the courts turn down my
Starting point is 01:54:50 extradition and her and them and you know so yeah we thought when he retired in 2018 or 2019 he might stop doing this but no because i've been on tic talk i have 8.9 million views last week I have had a number of journalists ghost me not tell me they won't do the story like I've done interviews with them they're like we're going to look into it and they're like we're going to call the FBI to get their side of the store I'm like listen you call anybody you want
Starting point is 01:55:12 you call my ex-wife you call the FBI you call the judge I don't care I'm an open book you call anybody you want they call the FBI then they ghost me they won't even answer my messages after that not even like not even professional ethics you would think would be like we called the FBI we decided not do your story
Starting point is 01:55:27 no in fact I had a CNN producer coming to my live for over an hour on TikTok and I was working with him. He's now ghosted me in the last few weeks. But last week, I got confirmation from two journalists who talked, one of them talked to the retired FBI agent. He called him at home and got him. And the FBI agent clearly told him, do not cover this case. Do not mess in the FBI's affairs. It will not go good for you. And he told a second journalist. So the FBI is still intimidating journalists to not cover my story. And that's why I have the biggest Netflix documentary, the biggest story, the biggest story
Starting point is 01:56:01 that should be everywhere, and I can't get it covered because the FBI keeps calling people up. Now, one of the journalists, to his credit, he's an independent, so far has said he's not scared, but we'll see. And so they are still intimidating people. Why do you think that is? Because it is exactly why. I can tell you why.
Starting point is 01:56:19 So he also called the prosecutor, and the prosecutor, my mom's been calling the prosecutor for a long time leaving voicemails. The prosecutor won't even call my mom back. Okay? So this one journalist called the prosecutor, this was Saturday, got him in his home too. And the prosecutor told him, I don't have anything to say to you. If you have any issues, you can contact my lawyer. This is a federal prosecutor who is a government
Starting point is 01:56:41 lawyer for the FBI has now referred to a journalist to his lawyer. Okay, now as to why, here's why. And he's also refused me at trial. We made an offer to turn myself in on three conditions. One, provide me an air ambulance because I needed an air ambulance to go anywhere. And he has my medical report. My medical report makes it very clear I needed an air ambulance. Two, guarantee me the medical care in the United States, okay, and three, agree to abide by the Speedy Trials Act and not file for any extensions, which is 70 days. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Now, if this case has been going on for 17 years, you would think he has all his ducks in a row. There should be no reason for him to file an extension, be like, I need to investigate this. In court, before a judge, we finally forced a petition, and he told the judge, no, I will not agree not to file any extensions. So, and on top of it, oh, I forgot to, I got sidetracked. He said, the only way for me to turn myself in is either fly somewhere and get arrested and agree to extradition because he will not try and extradite me from St. Kitt's another time. He will not try because it's already been turned down. Or I can turn myself into the U.S. Embassy and St. Kitts.
Starting point is 01:57:50 The problem, there is no U.S. Embassy in St. Kitts, and the prosecutor knew that ahead of time. And even though my lawyer told him in front of a judge, there is no U.S. Embassy and Zint Kitts. St. Kitts, he's like, well, it's not my problem then. Now, why is he doing all this? Here's why. Because he's the same prosecutor that made this mess with the FBI agent. So, if you were to bring me to trial, would you really want to be the prosecutor? Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen of the jury and your respected judge. I just want to let you know that I said this child was born in Pennsylvania, but oops,
Starting point is 01:58:20 he's actually born in Tennessee. Who knew? And Mr. Howard was not in the United States in November, so he couldn't have taken him. oops who knew and oh by the way on the fbi website where it says he's a former titusville man he's never lived in titus still he's never even spent a night there that's where his ex-wife ran and kidnapped and hid the child with so oops this prosecutor has been a federal prosecutor for 20 years he was a state prosecutor prior to that he's only done 12 trials in his 20 year career and you really think that's the case he's going to bring to trial would you want to be that prosecutor now he could dismiss at any time and he has it made
Starting point is 01:58:57 that he could dismiss this case but he explicitly refuses because I can sue the Department of Justice and he can be charged with prosecutorial misconduct Yeah, he's better off just having you stay there and dying That's his plan Right
Starting point is 01:59:15 And I haven't even told you everything yet So I could tell you more But it gets wilder beyond this What? What happened when you were arrested in Bulgaria? Okay, so I was in Bulgaria. I was speaking at a conference.
Starting point is 01:59:36 I was one of the opening speakers, not the keynote. I'm often the keynote speaker as well as other, but I was one of the first sessions. We were at the conference center, which is a combination of a holiday inn, which is next to the movie theater, and we were using the movie theater to present. There were a lot of conference attendees,
Starting point is 01:59:51 probably over 1,000 easily. I was international conference speaker. I was one of the headliners, well known. I arrived in Bulgaria and nothing really happened. I arrived. I have to look again. I think it was a Sunday, basically the first day arrived. Nothing happened in the day.
Starting point is 02:00:08 We went out to dinner and nothing really is up. And one of the speakers, he said, you know, I saw when I was checking in. He says, I saw a document on the counter there that had your name on it. And I didn't think anything of it because I just thought it was like a check-in sheet. I thought there was a check-in sheet and I just happened to be on top because Bulgaria is lots of paperwork. Eastern Europe is all paperwork. And I didn't think anything of it, nothing at all. went out to a speaker dinner, came back around 2, 2.30 in the morning. I had a session at like
Starting point is 02:00:31 9 o'clock or something, so I got a few hours sleep. I have always retuning my sessions, even if I've given a million times. So I woke up around 6.6.30, made some tea, put on the TV, and it was just doing some final revisions in my session. And around 7 o'clock, there's a knock on the door. And I thought, I knew a lot of the other conference speakers, because a lot of us did the same circuit. and one of my best friends at the time I had brought into the conference circuit so I basically brought him in he was very talented I mean he did everything on his own I'm not saying that
Starting point is 02:01:01 his success is my my doing I'm just saying that I did assist him and one thing I did was get him into the conference circuit right right somebody who worked with somebody I still respected this day and we'd hung out the night before we always hung out and so I thought he was coming to the door and be like yo let's go to breakfast
Starting point is 02:01:16 and so I appeared to the people it wasn't him it was five armed Interpol agents with guns all dressed in black so I left the chain I opened the door just a little bit four men and a woman
Starting point is 02:01:31 and they flashed badges and only the woman spoke English and she said we're here from Interpol we're Bulgarian police but we're attached to Interpol and do you know why we're here and I was like no but I kind of suspected oh because there were some other things that happened before this
Starting point is 02:01:49 I gosh I forgot okay so I kind of suspect but I didn't think they were there to arrest me and they didn't show their guns at that time because prior to this the U.S. Embassy in Cyprus although they knew we were in St. Kitts, our house in Cyprus now had
Starting point is 02:02:06 the people that live next to our neighbors of Cyprus they lived in a little tiny house and they were actually pastors of a church. There were husband and wife they were pastors of a church and when we left they moved into our house because it was bigger and good price.
Starting point is 02:02:24 So they knew us. We were good friends with them. Sometimes we would have, you know, breakfast or whatever with them. And they were just, they were right next door. The houses were right next to each other. So we saw them every day. They were very friendly people.
Starting point is 02:02:34 We knew them. The U.S. Embassy sent two people down from the embassy in Nicosia. It's about an hour and a half drive. They didn't even call them. They showed up at the house pretending to look for us, although they knew we were here. So they're basically harassing the people that were in our house now. And they weren't having any of it because they
Starting point is 02:02:52 were, you know, they were the pastors of a church, but they harassed them. And then also, the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, and I have a court record of this, by the way, they put it in a court record. So the U.S. Embassy at Moscow set the KGB slash FSB. Now, the KGB, I know they're technically called the FSB, and the Eastern Europeans are like, KGB doesn't exist anymore. You're full of it. Okay, listen, they got renamed to the FSB. It's the same stupid. It's the same people, right?
Starting point is 02:03:17 Right. Okay. And most Westerners, even usually CNN still calls them the KGB. So I call them the KGB, but yes, I know KGB FSB. So if I say KGB FSB, that's what I'm talking about. So I'd already have some encounters with the KGBFSB prior to this, and I'll explain them if you want in a bit. But they set the KGB looking for me because at one point we lived in Russia.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Now, they knew we were not in Russia. So what they did is they sent them to my wife's parents' house looking for me. Right. It is more and more fresh. Yeah, they're pretty much pressure. Meanwhile, they didn't run saying kids the whole time. So basically by this time, and I'd already corresponded with the embassy in Cyprus because I'd emailed them because they said well he's not here so I'd
Starting point is 02:03:54 already correspond to them I had talked to the US embassy of Moscow I had talked to the Russia I talked to the US consulate in St. Petersburg Russia I'd already been in contact with several embassies over this and I'd already sent them court documents I'd already explained the whole thing because they kept saying we're just investigating we're just looking for your son where is he I'm like well he's with me and I'm here and here's a court documents and they're like well okay I never had any indication that it was anything other than just harassment right because all the U.S. embassies, after I sent him the stuff, they always buggered off. Well, the one, the one
Starting point is 02:04:25 invited me to come in for a visit. And I'm like, no. I have no reason to come back to the embassy right now. Plus, oh, the U.S. Embassy in Cyprus, we need to come back to this. The U.S. Embassy and Cyprus swatted my house. Yeah. So let's come back to that in a little bit. Okay. They told the Cyprus police, we were drug dealers, and they came and swatted our house. And the Cyprus police had to apologize to us after that. and you're saying the U.S. Embassy did it? Yep. Do you know that?
Starting point is 02:04:58 Well, I know it for a fact. I'll get into that. Let's come back to that story. Put it to Duna, because you want to talk about Bulgaria. We'll come back to that. But no, I know is them. I have proof. Right.
Starting point is 02:05:06 So. Okay. We should talk about the KGB and FSB story sometime too. And we should also talk about the TSA incidents. Mm-hmm. So we should also talk about the foreign intelligence agency. encounters as well, that'd be interesting in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and United Arab Emirates.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Let's stick to Bulgaria for now. I told you it gets wild. Right. So, but remember, I have court documents for everything. Right. I can prove everything. So Bulgaria, so they show up. And by this time, I had had contact with U.S. embassies in Cyprus, U.S. embassy in Russia,
Starting point is 02:05:46 consulate in Russia. So I knew there was harassment. So I thought, like, Okay, this is just the U.S. Embassy in Bulgaria. They know I'm in Bulgaria because it's my conference schedule, my travel schedule, my flight schedule. I mean, I knew they knew I was there, right? And I had no idea as a rest of war, nothing. So I just thought it was the same thing again.
Starting point is 02:06:05 I just thought this time Bulgaria decided, hey, let's do a personal visit on the dude. So I wasn't even scared. And they were like, well, we have some questions. And then I said, I don't know what's about. They're like, this is about your son. I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. Mm-hmm. And so they're like, let's go to the police station, have a chat.
Starting point is 02:06:25 I'm like, I have a session in like an hour and a half. And I'm one of the headliners. It's like, you're going to need to postpone it. And I had a second session in the afternoon. So I messaged the conference organizer and I basically told me, I says, something's really urgent come up. I'm very sorry about this. I need to cancel my session.
Starting point is 02:06:41 I was in the biggest room. And I'm like, I'm just, I'm so sorry. I can't even explain right now because they didn't give me any time. I said, but I should be back for my afternoon session. That's the still position. in. I'm like, listen, we're going to go. We're going to have a chat because I had had things like this happen similar, but not quite. And there's always, let's have a chat. We go away. We investigate, okay, you're here. Okay, your sons and St. Kitts and this stuff. And then they go
Starting point is 02:07:05 away. Right. And but then I figured out something was going on because they said, let's go have a chat. So I had answered the door in my underwear because I had even dressed yet. And there were four men and a woman they're all dressed in black um black and blue jeans they look like mafia or something right right and i'd been in places where people pretend to be police so i'd verified everything i checked the badges you know they they they were legit and i'm checking everything and they're like let's go to the police station and so i still the door cracked and she's like um bring your bring your you bring your u.s passports some identity documents and some pants so and i've started the on tic talk i've a whole series i've made 11 parts so far
Starting point is 02:07:49 Well, I made a bunch before I made like 20 parts, but I was really sick when I made those. So now that I've, the last month, the Cuban government has been helping me with medical. They're not, they can't fix me, but they've brought some doctors to me and I've gotten a lot better. The last three months, I've gotten a lot better. I still need surgery. I'm still a lot of pain. Don't get me wrong. I could die six days, six weeks, six months, six years.
Starting point is 02:08:08 I don't know. But I'm in massive amounts of pain most times. Once you see my health playlist, I pass hundreds of kidney stones a month. I passed a seven by seven by three millimeter kidney stone on. my own, by myself. I piss tissue. I piss blood. I piss pus. It's nasty. I can show you pictures if you want or check my health playlist on TikTok. So anyways, it was unusual that five of them were there. But I just thought, you know, sometimes these countries, they'd like to impress the Americans. You know,
Starting point is 02:08:38 the American, they'd like, the Americans want something. And I just thought they were putting on a show. So I put on pants. I grabbed my American passport. I grabbed my identity documents. I had I had a hidden pocket. I had everything there. I just took my hidden pocket, but I took out my Caribbean passport and left it in the hotel. Okay? And so we get into the hallway and they're like, okay, come with us.
Starting point is 02:09:01 And then I noticed they're all armed. Okay? Except for the woman. I don't think she was armed. But she was there to translate. She told me, she says, these other four men don't speak English. And I'm here to translate.
Starting point is 02:09:14 So now I'm thinking, why are there four men with guns who don't speak English and already even dressed as police officers. If they don't speak English, why are they here? Do you really need four of them? Right. Vecna has never even made an allegation of verbal abuse, let alone any sort of violence.
Starting point is 02:09:32 I'm a pacifist generally because my dad used to beat my mom up and us, and I don't believe in any of that, right? So the worst thing my ex could have ever accused me of was maybe yelling or something, and she never even made that accusation. So I'm just wondering, why are there forearmed men and a woman here to talk to me? All right.
Starting point is 02:09:52 So he's not walking down the hallway. I noticed two of them going in front and two of them going back. So now they're surrounding me. They're worried I'm going to run. And I'm at this point, I'm starting to think, yo, something ain't going right. But I'm still just thinking they're putting on a show because I actually hadn't message a conference organization yet. I did it.
Starting point is 02:10:09 What happened is when we went down the elevator, I ran into my friend who I thought was the one coming to give me for breakfast. and I just told him he was there by somebody else I forget because I ran to him later for sure and I just told him I said message the conference organizer and he's like where are you going like I just I got to go I got to go in town and you know
Starting point is 02:10:28 he didn't know I was with police because there are five people they're not even in police he just sees me disappear with five people dressed in black and it's suspicious and all the conference attendees are in the hotel in the lobby they're making it very conspicuous that they're taking me absolutely conspicuous everybody sees
Starting point is 02:10:44 so we get into the, um, we get into the parking lot and there's an unmarked black, uh, like, intelligence style car. So now I know that these aren't normal Bulgarian police. They're actually the Bulgarian intelligence service. And they put me in a car. They surround me with one police officer on each side in the back seat. And there's another car. So I found out there's two cars. It was waiting in the parking lot. It's following us. So now they've brought like, I don't know how many people there are, but there's two cars in the intelligent Bulgarian intelligence service taking me away to the police station. And I don't inform them that I speak any other
Starting point is 02:11:24 languages, okay? Because I know at this point, if they don't ask me, I'm not telling them anything. I will cooperate. I will be polite. They have been polite. They've been professional. They've not been hostile to me. I mean, they've not been rough. Okay. And, but I'm not going offer them anything extra. So in the car, I'm with Veronica, the one who speaks English. And I'm just asking her some basic questions. And she's like, well, we're here about your son. And then she gets on to, oh, actually, I don't think they told me Interpol to we got in the car. I can verify. I wrote all this down. I have like 50 pages written down. I'm working memory ready. But I don't think they'd mentioned Interpol until we were in the car. And all this
Starting point is 02:12:07 police station, basically, we're here about your son and we're arresting you on an Interpol notice. And I'm like, what? Arrest? Interpol? Because before then I thought it was just like, just let's go ahead and chat. Yeah, to chat. But I see the second car.
Starting point is 02:12:19 I figured out these are Bulgarian intelligence. And this was not my first ship to Bulgaria. I'd been to Bulgaria several times. I had co-workers in Bulgaria. I had been on a programming team with Bulgarians. I had stayed at friends' houses in Bulgaria before. Alex had been to Bulgaria before. One time when we lived in Turkey,
Starting point is 02:12:34 we took the train to Bulgaria and visited friends for a week or so. So Alex had been to Bulgaria. I mean, they knew that for migration records. They knew we'd been in Bulgaria. And but so, I mean, but I knew Bulgaria. And so, I mean, I knew these were intelligence operatives. And I'd been to Middle East, all three East and Europe. I lived in Russia.
Starting point is 02:12:51 But now there are, I hear the word arrest and interpol. That kind of is, you know, changing everything. So we get to the police station. And do you want the long version? You want the short version of this? I mean, we're coming up on two hours and 20 minutes. So the semi-short version is, is probably good.
Starting point is 02:13:12 I've seen a TikTok where you do the voices. So, we don't need the voices. Just the, well, I can shorten it down to basically they, I would call it an interrogation. Yeah. And then they brought somebody from the U.S. Embassy. He interrogated me. That was one of the dumbest people I've ever met as far as
Starting point is 02:13:27 interrogations. I mean, he was probably, he's not an idiot as a person goes, but the guy from the U.S. Embassy, I think what happened was they're like, yo, this dude got arrested in a pole is going to get extradited, go harass him. And the dude's like, okay, whatever. And he came in completely cold. He didn't know crap, but I played with him the whole freaking time. I mean, I had him in the pull of my hand, and I'm still making fun of him on TikTok. I'm redoing a new
Starting point is 02:13:49 series. And we found him on LinkedIn. I tried to connect with him on LinkedIn. He's now in South Africa. He has not accepted my connection request, by the way. So I have a former, I have a former Army intelligence officer who are helping me out now. I mean, I've attracted all kinds of people on TikTok. I have two other people wanted on false charges by the FBI. and they're on Interpol lists on I'm in touch with now I've had people who are actually guilty contact me and I've just told them I said listen you know just take a plea bargain or something but I have two other people the FBI's accused of bull crap too and Interpol can't get them and I'm in touch with them and they're not even for custody they're for other things
Starting point is 02:14:27 but it's just you know then the extradition went through and I could tell you about what they did to be in Bulgaria in prison I could tell you the FBI visited me in prison they sent RSOs after me they sent the FBI after me they lied to Bulgaria they tried to they They bribed a police officer in Bulgaria after my extradition was denied the second time. They didn't want me to leave. So they bribed a police officer and convinced them that my Caribbean passport was fake and that St. Kitts was not a country. And then they complicated things because St. Kitts and Bulgaria at the time did not have
Starting point is 02:14:56 official diplomatic relations, which complicated things a bit. Even though we had FedEx official documents from St. Kitts that were Apostille. I don't know if you know what an apostille is, but when you move foreign documents, we move dock is between countries. There's an international convention that's a treaty, one of the Geneva conventions. You have to have a special stamp from the federal government that makes it official to move to another country. So my wife is back here in the Caribbean, getting up postdills on all the documents and FedExing them into Bulgaria to prove everything I'm saying, prove I'm a citizen, prove I live here, everything. And then this police officer, here's like
Starting point is 02:15:29 the Bulgarian student go from Cheech and Chong. Do you ever watch Cheech and Chong movies? Not in a long time. Okay, but what Cheech and Chong movies, they have a police officer and his name is Officer Stidenko, and he's this idiot. And the Cheech and Chong are always making funny of him. And I met the Bulgarian Stidenko, and I think Stadenko might even be a Bulgarian name, by the way. So after all this was, they seized my Caribbean passport, and they were trying, they opened an investigation into saying it was fake. And I know they bribed this guy because nobody can possibly be this dumb. We went with my lawyer.
Starting point is 02:15:59 We're trying to get my passport back so I can leave Bulgaria. Extradition's already been denied twice. And I shit you not. He has my passport in like one of the first. of those clear sleeves that you put a three-ring binder you can see and there's one staple to top and you can actually slip my passport in out on either side of the staple by just turning the bag over and dumping it out right and he's like we're producing all this documentation to prove who i am we've sent documentation of st kitts the uh saint kitt's consulate or embassy or whatever i think it's a consulate
Starting point is 02:16:28 in london was involved and this officer was convinced he's like your passport's fake and we're like no he's like saint kits is not a country does not exist And then we convinced him all this stuff. He's like, so then we present him with a photograph because he wants photographs and he wants somebody to prove that the passport is me. Now, because I used to travel so much and all my visas, they had to have a photograph. I had a stack of photographs that I already preprinted. And instead of going every time I needed one, I just printed out like 50 photographs.
Starting point is 02:16:56 So I've been using the same photograph for like four years. Same photograph of my Caribbean passport. Same photograph of my U.S. passport. Same photograph in all the visas I have and everything. And he's like, no, I can't be sure this is the same person. it's not only the same person it's the same photograph and he's like we need a photographic expert so he goes and gets a photographic expert and the photographic expert is like these are obviously the same photo and even the police are like well i'm not convinced how long are you been a photography expert and just going on and off and he's like we can't get your passport out to look at the photograph your passport because it's in sealed evidence and it's in this three ring binder with a staple he's like we need somebody to officially unseal it and we're like it's a staple and not only that but you could shake my passport out and he's making this big deal about how it's officially sealed and it's just ended like this thing from office max with this table and i have all this written down but we finally
Starting point is 02:17:48 ended up getting it back because somebody in the ministry of foreign affairs um helped me out we got this phone call like uh and the thing is my my time in bulgaria is only three months and i was about to run out and so what the americans are doing is we applied for a residence permit so i'd be legally in bulgaria and the americans wouldn't have any of that and also when we're in Bulgaria, they seized all my identity documents because they said it was fake. They even seized my driver's license. I have another, I have another government ID from St. Kiss. My, like, your social security card in the States doesn't have your photo. Here it does. It has my photo and address and stuff on it. It looks like a driver's license and an official ID. And they seized all
Starting point is 02:18:26 of it and they wouldn't give any of it back. And under Bulgarian law, when they seize your documents, if you're in their investigation, they have to issue a temporary ID from Bulgaria. They have to. And this police officer would not issue me a temporary ID. And, in Eastern Europe, you can't just walk around the streets. So now I am walking around at any ID. Every time I see a police officer, I'm walking the other way because they stopped me and asked me for ID. I'm going to jail for not having ID because they refused to issue it to me.
Starting point is 02:18:49 So we finally got, we got a call from the as the minister of foreign affair. The prosecutor, I know, the senior prosecutor's office to make sure which one. And she's like, listen, I'm the senior person in this ministry. and I've been following your case and I was evolved initially and we've learned that the Americans
Starting point is 02:19:11 are lying about it and your extradition's been denied they're still trying to block you they still have a block on you in the passport system but if you come to Sophia which is like a two hour drive because where I was staying
Starting point is 02:19:20 if you come to Sophia on this day and it was like the day before Christmas day it was basically like a holiday where everybody was pissed everybody was gone and it wasn't even an official government office she's like go to this university and go to the 12th floor
Starting point is 02:19:31 and go to this back office and we went to this back office like we couldn't even get it there's like a window, it's like a hallway, and there's just like a window, look like a bank window. And she says, I will transfer your passport to this university, his back office in the university where the inter, I think it was where the, like a law student's worked or something. But it's some place my passport never should have been. But she's like, listen, I will get your passport there.
Starting point is 02:19:51 You show up on this day, you take it. I have removed the passport block, but I don't know how long I can keep to leave immediately. We went and got my passport, and then we did the thing I told you about, because the last minute ticket and flew out. So I had help, even from the Bulgarian official. because they were like you know something's wrong yeah yeah and so I don't know if you want to go into all the other stories about you know my past with the TSA and the foreign intelligence services because the thing is it gets wilder from here now at minimum the only thing that I can
Starting point is 02:20:22 prove is we think the best case scenario is the problem is it's not just one person if this was just one person you might be able to just say this what happened you might going to say the prosecutor is doing this, but the prosecutor and the FBI and the judge were all in on this. There are three people at minimum involved this. Plus there's Mary Beth Buchanan who likes to trump up cases. So it could be as simple as Mary Beth Buchanan that, you know, she went to his FBI agent who was telling her the whole time. And then he went to Mary Beth Buchanan and Mary Beth Buchanan's like, yeah, I screw Tommy Chong. Let's screw this dude too. Why not? Right. It could be as simple as that and now it's a cover up. But if you look at the history of this case,
Starting point is 02:21:01 how hard they've tried to get me, how hard they've tried to cover it up, how much they've blatantly lied, that seems like an incredible coincidence for that number of things to happen for a case like this. Somebody at some point should have been like, what the shit? And drop this. And they refuse to this day. So at minimum, that's all I can prove. Now, if we want to go one step beyond that, the special agent whose name is Kirk Brace, now I can't find it because he seems they've issued a scrub order. They can ask for a scrub order where they basically take most of the public information down around agents and stuff, right? Right.
Starting point is 02:21:34 Now I have pictures up because his wife started posting pictures of Minnesota had on Christmas and stuff. And I know where he is because he's in Google now. But I did find an address record that he used to live in Maryland that's still on the internet. And back in 2009, before I was saving all this stuff, I found, and this is coming off memory, but if memory serves me correctly, he was either the part or I believe the head of the Maryland Counterterrorism Task Force.
Starting point is 02:21:56 Now, we're filing FOIA requests to find this out, but they keep blocking it. We filed a FOIA request on me last year, and the FBI blocked the FOIA request because they said they don't have to comply with it because I'm a fugitive. They have also blocked, they've blocked all kinds of requests. We have people contacting them. The FBI will not talk about me. They just say they can't comment. And so, no, normally they will at least provide some comment. And even the journalists who have done this are like, why are they doing this?
Starting point is 02:22:20 They don't, it is just so strange. But we think what happened to us because he was in Maryland, and I believe he was the head. Now, I can't prove it. I don't know if he was the head or just a member, but from when I searched before, he was involved in the counterterrorism task force. Now, how does someone go from being either on or the head of the counterterrorism task force for an entire state to being transferred to a branch office in Pennsylvania? Not even like FBI, Pittsburgh, not like, hey, let's go to Pittsburgh. It's a cool city. How did he end up in Erie where the FBI doesn't even have a building? They don't even really have an office. It's like two offices with two people in it.
Starting point is 02:22:55 How did he end up at that posting? Now, my theory, and again, I can't prove this, my theory is he did something, he got demoted. Right. And then he's like, well, I need to build my career up. What's the easiest way? Oh, let's frame this guy and I could build my career up once I catch this international kidnapper because that's how they portrayed me in the press. I have friends and family back in Pennsylvania or, you know, people I went to school with that have made me not friends that think I captured and killed a kid. Because that's how it was framed.
Starting point is 02:23:22 And if you see me shaking, it's because the medical condition. That's why it's hard for me to type. Right. work and I'm in I'm actually not very much pain today but um so we think at minimum that's what it is but even then it's kind of hard to believe they go to this extent and I had some things that happened to me as far back as 2002 that we could go into if you want but they're even wilder than all of this stuff and I don't know if they're connected although I have a lot of indications lately that are indicating they might be connected but if we weighed into this territory everything I've told you to
Starting point is 02:23:56 date. I have court records, news articles. I can provide everything to you. If we wade into this new territory, I'm going to tell you it's going to start. It gets even wilder. And I have some documentation to support this, but not everything. And I don't know if they're connected or not, but I have a lot of indications, especially recently. We've found some more documentation that potentially links all of this to prior things. But it gets wilder. And I'm even a little bit hesitant to go into that because I start sounding like a crazy person when I can already prove everything I've already set well okay so your son is 26 he'll be 27 soon he's he still does he's talked to your ex-wife his mom no no no he has nothing to do with her in fact um about four years ago he communicated through her
Starting point is 02:24:43 lawyer he um he asked he contacted her lawyer and he basically said he says listen i don't know how to reach her because she keeps moving we don't have any contact but you do and he's like yeah i do And he's like, can have the contact? And the lawyer's like, nope, can't give a deal? So I was like, well, pass a message to her. Can you do that? He's like, yeah. So he basically told her lawyer that, listen, I don't know if I wouldn't have an adult.
Starting point is 02:25:06 He says, you know, I'm in my 20s now. I'm an adult. I don't know if I want to have an adult relationship with you or not. But if you want to have even a chance, you need to drop this. And then it's a maybe. Right. And so the lawyer passed the message and we got a call back. I don't remember the same day.
Starting point is 02:25:23 It was pretty quick. I think it made in the same day or a few hours or the next day or something. And the lawyer basically said, he says, I'm not willing to repeat what your mother said. But basically from what he implied, it was basically she told my son, our son, to go to hell. And this is the same mother who for over 10 years didn't send him so much as a letter. And in 2021, in 2021, we finally forced a petition before the Pennsylvania court because the Pennsylvania court kept dismissing our petitions. They would say, I'm a fugitive.
Starting point is 02:25:50 They don't have to accept any petitions whatsoever for me, no matter what. It doesn't matter what I filed. They will never even look at them. And we found an obscure rule, and we forced an order before the court. And in 2021, the court dismissed that temporary order, that 15-year temporary order, they dismissed. But they won't dismiss the bench warrant. Now, there's never been a warrant for kidnapping until the feds took it up, and they based it on a bench warrant. They based the kidnapping on a bench warrant.
Starting point is 02:26:14 Pennsylvania never had a kidnapping charge against me. Never. Pennsylvania never even had a charge against me for custodial interference. never the feds trumped all this crap up so in 2021 when we went before the court because my lawyers we found her in google again my lawyers drove to her house and showed up at her door and she's like this is still going on i didn't know i mean she knew and when the press because my son did interviews on tv the um the ABC reporter showed up at her door and she's like what i have nothing to say so reporters show up at her door and she's like i have nothing to say she has the opportunity
Starting point is 02:26:50 If a reporter shows up at your door and your child's been kidnapped and if all this is true, wouldn't a mother take that opportunity to speak out? But what I want to get to is she sent a letter to the judge, a handwritten letter, by the way,
Starting point is 02:27:02 to the judge in Pennsylvania. And she's like, well, first of all, she once told my son that work should be fun and if work isn't fun, then don't work. So she's on welfare.
Starting point is 02:27:10 I know that. Or maybe she's a part-time job, but she's always played this game of she can't work. She faked an injury one time and even my son told me it was fake to get out of work. So she'd have to work.
Starting point is 02:27:19 And she tried to get a disability. she couldn't so there's no welfare but she sent a letter to the judge and i'll send you all this and she told the judge that she doesn't have a computer because she's too poor and the public library doesn't let her stay in the library long enough to use her computer so she has to she apologizes that she has to write him a handwritten letter and that she wonders if she has to come to the court because now she lives two counties away and it's too expensive for her she doesn't have a driver she doesn't have a car and she can't make it to the court easily and that um she wonders if the judge could call her because she can't afford a long distance call even though
Starting point is 02:27:50 Who makes a long-disn't call anymore? Doesn't every calling in the United States pretty much in cover of the 50 states? She's telling the judge she can't afford cell phone minutes to call two counties away now and that she feels she's being harassed by me by even filing in court to get this dismissed because her financial situation is so bad
Starting point is 02:28:09 that even paying for copies and postage is an undue financial burden on her. And then she asked the judge to apply additional sanctions to me and asked for reparations. is it mental illness oh yeah her family has mental illness you want me to get into that so her family now first of all i want to be clear that i am not dissing her family because when we first got married for the first two years or so we lived in her parents house and i lived with her siblings so i lived with um it was one two three four brothers and her sister and her and her stepdad
Starting point is 02:28:50 and her mother. We all lived in the same house. Okay, before and after we got married. And I got along with all of them, all of them. And a lot of them didn't even along with each other. And she despised most of her siblings. There was her youngest brother she got along with and one of her other brothers she got along with. And her two other brothers, she did not like. One she absolutely despises. The other one, she didn't like a whole lot. And her sister, she got along with. She hated her stepdad, but got along with her mom. So it was an interesting household to live it. And I think it's because of my autism, again, which I didn't know at the time. I'm what they call level one or what most people would know is a high functioning
Starting point is 02:29:25 Asperger's. Okay, that's not an official term anymore, but that's what the public term might be for me. High functioning Asperger's. Now, her sister is, I don't know, she's officially schizophrenic, but she has mental illness. She has a lot. She used to talk to the birds and she heard voices even when I lived there. So I always knew her as a schizophrenic. And I got along with her sister.
Starting point is 02:29:47 Her sister would sit in a rocking chair and just rock. all day and talk to the walls and talk to the burrs and talk to the ceiling. But I got along with her sister. I was one of the few people that actually kind of got along with her. And but I had grown up around some other people. So I mean, I had worked in some charities in my youth where I dealt with mentally ill people and my mom was handicapped because she was blind. So I mean, a little experience. So I just, I knew how to deal with her. And she wasn't like dangerous or anything. But now she lives, she lives in an assisted facility where, you know, she there's mental people there and she can come and go, but she needs help cooking and living
Starting point is 02:30:17 and that sort of stuff, so she's committed. One of her other brothers was in prison, but is now out. One of her other brothers is in prison for killing somebody. And one of the brothers is not in prison. It's probably the only one I would have expected would have ever should have been in prison. It isn't, but I have some concerns about. And then her other brother is pretty normal. So, but even the one that's in prison, I got along with that one.
Starting point is 02:30:41 I got along, even he was on drugs at the time. And I got along with every one of them. And even if I were free today, I would go visit him in the Erie County Prison or whichever, I think, I don't know, which is federal or not. I would go visit him, even though I don't want to get into what he did. He was on drugs. He ended up killing somebody. It was kind of an accident. He was found guilty.
Starting point is 02:30:58 He was guilty. But I got along with the rest of her family. There's only one brother that I didn't trust. And even after we were divorced, I had continued contact with some of her brothers. And her mother, I talked to her mother at least every other month until her mother passed away. Her mother passed away. I don't know, that's a look, 2016, 2017-ish, but I talked to her mother all the way up until then,
Starting point is 02:31:23 and so did Alex, every other month, at least minimum, if not more. And all the time, they're saying they don't know where he is, and I'm in touch with her mother and one of her brothers. So, yeah, my point was, I'm not trying to diss her family, but there is a history of mental illness in that family. And, yeah, she definitely has some mental issues is what I would like to come across as. But I don't blame her.
Starting point is 02:31:45 I don't blame her at all. I blame the system, which is doing it. I mean, nobody should have taken her case. I blame Kirk Brace, the FBI agent. I blame Judge White, and I blame Christian Traybill, the prosecutor, and I blame Marybeth Bacan. But the ones that are holding this case are the FBI agent Kirk Brace and the prosecutor, Christian Traybilt. Those are the two that are just holding on to this tooth and nail. And we've met because Christian Traybilt's boss has changed.
Starting point is 02:32:11 It was Mary Beth Buchanan got promoted She left at around 2010 And then I don't know who it was Then it was Steve Kaufman And then it was Cindy Chung And now Cindy Chung as a judge And I forget who the new person is We've talked to both Cindy Chung
Starting point is 02:32:24 And Stephen Kaufman And I've both refused to dismiss the charges Because they say come to court But they won't let me come to court I can tell you as an aside I mean I can give you many examples you want But there was a guy from St. Kitts And he's now passed away
Starting point is 02:32:39 I never met him, but I was friends with his son. His son's now left the island, but I was decent friends of the son. I know this gentleman's brother. I know his sister-in-law, and I know his nephew. And this is all documented as well. He was a dual citizen. He was a Canadian citizen and a St. Kitt's citizen. He was a Canadian doctor, and you can look all this up.
Starting point is 02:33:00 And the U.S. wanted him for supplying steroids to a U.S. Olympic runner. And they said he did. did it in Buffalo. He was a Canadian doctor. So they said all this stuff and they added all these kind of charges and stuff and they made a big stink about it. And so what he was doing is he didn't even know he had a warrant out for him. He was flying on a Canadian flight from the Caribbean to Canada. Now, not a private plane, a commercial Canadian, I don't know which flight was, but a commercial flight full of people. All right. As it flew over New York, the FBI had them declare an air emergency to force the plane to land. This is documented. You can find this. You can Google it. And they forced the plane to land by declaring an air emergency. They never told the pilot or the crew or what it was. When it landed, they said air emergency was over. And they never even told the pilot was, but they says, oh, but you know what, you landed.
Starting point is 02:33:51 And we noticed that somebody on your plane is wanted by the FBI. So you can't take off until you give them up. Right. So they gave them up. The plane went on to Canada. I mean, a commercial plane full of people. They held the guy in Florida prison, Florida federal prison, for two years without a trial. At the end of two years, they came to him.
Starting point is 02:34:08 They said, you know, we don't actually have. any evidence and we're not going to give you a trial. But if we did, you serve your time. So go ahead and go home. And they deported him. And I can, there are hundreds of thousands of cases like this, but that's just one that I know. And I know more even than it was published on the internet and in news articles because I knew I became good friends with the son. Just by hanging out. When I was healthy enough, I used to have a local hangout on the beach here and his son used to hang out there. And he and I became decent friends that we would just sit around and have a beer. And so I got to know even more of the story. And so I got to know even more
Starting point is 02:34:39 of the story and I looked it all up and it's all true. Plus, a lot of people here know about the story because his brother was a member of parliament in St. Kitts. And so I know his brother as well. So I'd already known about the story before I even knew his son. And at one point, we rented apartment from his nephew. So they do stuff like this all the time. I can tell you so many cases, documented cases of things like this. And he was wanted on charges that are lesser than the charges I'm facing. I mean, and look at the things they've already done to me and continue to me. Now, you have to ask the question. At what point is, I mean, when I say it's a cover-up, people think I'm crazy, but it is a cover-up. The prosecutor and the FBI agent are trying
Starting point is 02:35:21 to cover up what they did. Well, how old is the prosecutor? Is it possible she's going to retire? No, the prosecutor, Mary Beth Buchanan, you're talking about Mary Beth Buchanan. No, the prosecutor, Christian Traybold is a man. He is early 50s. He's a couple years old than me. I think he's 51 or 52, so he's still got a ways to go to retire, and so far the whole system has continued to defend itself. They won't even look into it. I got sent a Congressman Mike Kelly, who's a congressman for Virginia. I signed a release and everything for him, and all he did was send me a letter and saying, yeah, I checked with the FBI and you are wanted, by the way. And then he's like, and it's like, and the thing about Mike Kelly is, Mike Kelly's one of the biggest
Starting point is 02:36:00 maga heads there is. Those baggins hate the FBI. This is something Mike Kelly could have congressional testimony over and he's just like you want it look at right now the u.s women's Olympic team is suing the FBI for one billion dollars for them covering up that they didn't act basically with the Larry Nasser accusations right the FBI withheld evidence for like over a year or there's a year or more and more young some of them were even teenagers more women and girls on the US women league team were sexually assaulted because the FBI withheld information for like a year or two and there was congressional testimony and now they're suing them for not one million one billion dollars the FBI does crap like this all
Starting point is 02:36:41 the time when they goof up they don't fess up they cover up and it's no different than this case yeah but in my case it's so extreme that I have trouble getting people to believe even the stuff that I can prove that's why I said I hesitate to go into the other things that happened to me as far back as 2002 but I've got other stories I can tell you as well yeah I don't know if they're connected I wrote all I know is something is really wrong here I'm dying and I'm begging for help because the FBI keeps intimidating. My life is on the line here. And they've destroyed my career. They destroyed my health. They destroyed my finances. I mean, everybody in the island knows I've wanted. I've been front page news down here numerous times. When I used to, when I was
Starting point is 02:37:18 healthy enough, it's been almost two years since I've been healthy enough to even go out to my favorite hangout or anywhere. I've only left the house three times in the last year, once was to go for a medical scan. And it was really difficult. And we almost needed an ambulance. My son had to drive me. but when I used to go to the beach bar in fact my friend I was telling you about and the locals they because of cruise ships were getting a million cruise ships
Starting point is 02:37:39 and they would bring the cruise ship people to my to my beach hangout among other places and the locals would tell the tourists off the cruise ship be like yo you want to see something you see that guy sitting over there he's wanted by the FBI Interpol
Starting point is 02:37:51 and they've been after him for like 15 years and they'd be like no way that's true they'd be like yeah go talk to him he'll talk to you and they'd come over because Americans when they don't know somebody, they're always, you know, they tend to be very polite.
Starting point is 02:38:02 Right. And they come up and be like, oh, excuse me, sir. I don't, I don't mean to butt in your business saying, we're just here on vacation and you have such a beautiful island. You live here, right? And I'm like, yeah. Like, but I don't so much care. I just wanted you to know what that gentleman over there is saying about you because you live here and you should know. And he's saying you're wanted to buy the FBI and Interpol. And they've been after like 15 years and you've been through like multiple traditions and you spent time in Bulgaria in prison. And I just wanted you to know what he's saying about you. Like, well, that's all true. So. And then they'd like,
Starting point is 02:38:30 can I buy you a beer and then we sit down and we talk it out and one time somebody even went back and made a blog post about me that's not up anymore but I mean this is the kind of stuff that it's such an it's everybody knows down here I'm a tourist attraction basically my daughter when my daughter was like 11 one of the ambassadors kids because it's a small island so she goes to school with a bunch of you know everybody goes to school with kids that are part of the ambassador you know the kids of the ambassadors from different countries so one of the ambassador's kids was at her school and he came to her and he's like Is your dad wanted by the FBI? And she's like, yep. And the kid's like, no way, you're just lying. It's just a rumor. He's like, go ask your dad. Because she knew his dad was one of the ambassadors. And the kid came back the next day.
Starting point is 02:39:13 And he's like, you're right, your dad is wanted by the FBI. That's so cool. But I mean, 11-year-olds are talking about me here. This is the stuff we have to deal with here. And the whole time, the prosecutor in the public, in the paper, he's like, after his extradition was failed, Mr. Howard Floyd. led to St. Kitts, and the government of St. Kitts will not extradite him because they're protecting him. I didn't flee here. I lived here before any of this crap happened, and they knew I was here the
Starting point is 02:39:40 entire time. The whole country knows I'm wanted down here. You could go off a plane. It might take five people to ask where the fugitive lives. Well, they might ask you which one, because there are actually a couple others here, but they're not even anything like me, and it's not the Americans that want them, and it's their, their stories are basically nothing. But, all right. There's Russian guy here wanted for something that's bullshit. It's such a small charge anyways that, you know, it's not even a bother, but everybody knows that story too. And so there are a couple other people that are of
Starting point is 02:40:08 interest, but not really anything like me. So if they ask you which fugitive you say, oh, the American one, they'll be like, okay, yeah, we know where he lives. Well, all right. I mean, I, you, so you've got a TikTok. You okay?
Starting point is 02:40:26 You got a TikTok. The TikTok account. You started a YouTube channel. very recently. Okay. I just started because my health was so bad. I was struggling to do TikTok. And the reason I did TikTok was every other platform required me to type. And as you can see,
Starting point is 02:40:41 right. Plus it's painful. If I do this repetition, it runs up here and it's very painful for me. And a lot of times my vision is blurry too, so it's very hard. So if I'm able to type a paragraph or two, that's a big deal. And even speaking like this on a good day, I'm getting winded. So I'm still able to cope, but you can see it is affecting me. I mean, I've done TikTok lives where I've almost passed out on the live.
Starting point is 02:41:02 I've been passed out to the hospital a couple times here that had to revive me. So, but the, I just recently, because now I've been getting a little bit better, I've been starting to push, I've been starting to produce more produced videos, and I've been starting to push out. So in like two weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago, I started pushing to Facebook Reels, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and YouTube. So they're not, like I only have 70 users on, I only have 70 followers on YouTube, but I only have 50 videos. So, and they're all shorts. There's like three videos and 47 shorts. My Instagram has gone up to like 250. I've had my Instagram maybe a month or more. But I'm trying to get into the platforms, but TikTok is my primary. I have 135,000 followers in TikTok, 3.7 million likes. I have 60 viral videos. I have 8.9 million views this week alone on. TikTok. But every time I get a media contact, the FBI shuts them down. Right.
Starting point is 02:42:07 Have you done a lot of interviews like this? Oh yeah. Yeah, I've done other podcasts. I was on Daisy Maskell. She's a UK celebrity. She was on BBC. I did Daisy Maskell last year. I've done some very small YouTubers. I interviewed with the guy in Australia who said he's still working on. I said it's going to take him two or three months to put it together. I guess that's his process. but every journalist I get everybody who contacts the FBI ends up ghosting me because the FBI tells them the bugger off
Starting point is 02:42:32 not invest in their affairs and sells them on a horrible person I am oh they also told the they love the magic baby what they do is in diplomatic communications
Starting point is 02:42:42 the U.S. government will put the word maybe in front of something and so they've done this on multiple occasions so when they swatted us in Cyprus in 2002 by the way
Starting point is 02:42:51 they said we were drug dealers The U.S. government of Cyprus never found anything, and the government of Cyprus had to apologize to us and ask us not to sue them. And they told us it came from the embassy. And I have other reasons that I know it came from the embassy as well. There's other ties to the embassy, several of them. But they used that and they told the government of St. Kitts and a diplomatic communication after the kidnap failed, after the extradition failed.
Starting point is 02:43:12 Oh, they tried to abduct me possibly in 2011, too. We can talk about that if you want. But they sent a diplomatic communication down here that they said they have evidence, I may be a former drug dealer. And they used the evidence of when they swatting. me in St. Kitts to do that, even though the government never found anything. I have never dealt in drugs. I never even used
Starting point is 02:43:30 drugs until recently. And now, yes, I used medical marijuana. I never even touched marijuana until I was like 46 or 47, because I grew up in the War on Drug Age where marijuana is crack. I never even smoked a cigarette. The only drugs have ever had are prescription drugs or alcohol, and even alcohol
Starting point is 02:43:46 I never even drank that much. I was never really into drinking that much. I would go to the beach and have a beer or something. But I've often gone years or months without drinking it didn't bother me, and I don't drink anymore because of my house, but they used that. And the problem is when the U.S. government says something like, we have evidence you may be, or this person may be a drug dealer, the foreign government doesn't even, the maybe is just like an afterthought. They read drug dealer.
Starting point is 02:44:09 But then when you disprove that and you point out, you prove, you say, listen, what evidence have you been shown? Nothing. And then I show the word maybe. And then once I go through all the stuff and convince me, like, well, I guess you're right. The maybe is there, but they're like, why would the U.S. government do that to you're a U.S. citizen? And so it's so, it's so hard to overcome this disbelief. And I've done that in so many times. And some of that I have copies of, some of it I don't. When I was in Bulgaria, I used to have a friend here and he passed away a few years ago, but he had a private plane. And it was like a Cessna. It only held six people including the pilot, right? Right. And he would fly charters to like the nearby islands. People
Starting point is 02:44:41 want to go golfing trips or whatever. And he, right before I left, he was like, here, take my card. And so he gave me his card. And it literally had a picture of a Cessna on the plane. And I figured it was like Mike's charters and it was obvious that he didn't have jets it was obvious he was not a big pilot he was very clear that the dude had a small Cessna right okay and they found that card when they seized my stuff in Bulgaria and from that in the evidence that they sent to Bulgaria and the Pennsylvania courts and the St. Kids courts they said we have evidence that his wife may be chartering a flight to hide the child in Russia while the father is in Bulgaria now you don't have to know much about planes to know that a sessna doesn't fly to russia no and so in a charter flight to
Starting point is 02:45:27 russia you're looking at like a million dollars or something but this is the kind of crap they threw out there and their evidence was this business card that you know mike's charter with a picture of a sessna on it and it clearly says for up to five passengers on the card i mean they knew and they just they take any seed and then just to accuse me of all kinds of things i mean they tried in 2011, 2010 or 2011, I can look up the exact date. I get a call on my cell phone here. My private cell phone, which is not in the phone book, not published, not hand it out to anybody. I can remember because it was before we moved to where we are now, when we lived in the apartment before. And I remember because I was in the bedroom, I get a call. And it was, it wasn't a St.
Starting point is 02:46:10 kids number. And but it's Caribbean. And I'm like, I answered, I'm like, hello? And like, this is the U.S. Embassy in Barbados. And at first I'm like, how did you get my phone number? you know right and they're like we're trying to do a welfare check on your son and this is meanwhile the extraditions have already failed they've already tried to kidnap him the poster's still up saying they don't know where he is but the US embassy is calling me on my personal private cell phone here in Sankets and I don't have recording that call but I do have some of the e-bails because after um after they got the phone call I was like um we need to communicate by email. I did talk to them. And he's like, we want to check on your son.
Starting point is 02:46:52 And I'm like, let's record. Let's do an email. And then they call me a couple more time. And I'm like, let's go to email. And so I have a couple emails. And they were basically like, we're coming to St. Kitt's to visit your son. And I'm like, that doesn't sound like a good idea. And I was basically, I told him, listen, I said, I remain open minded, but I'm assuming you're aware of the history of this case, even if you deny it to me. You have to be aware of what's going on. There's no way that you called me and are not aware of the history. this case. But I said, just in case you aren't of everything, I explained to the things.
Starting point is 02:47:22 They're like, well, okay, but no worries, we just want to come visit and talk to your son. And I was like, I'm still not, I said, what's in it for me? Why would I do this? And they're like, well, transparency, I'm like, and I said, okay, I agree, but here are my terms. We will meet
Starting point is 02:47:38 at police headquarters in the chief of police's office, because I knew the chief of police, because for a while down here, I was repairing computers and I was the most qualified person. in the island so the government was hiring me to do things and I had repaired the several of the police I actually fixed the inner help they wanted me to help fix the interpol system here one time that was fun they're like the interpol system's not working and you help us fix it I'm like yeah
Starting point is 02:48:02 I suppose I could go against everything I believe at this point but yeah so so I knew the chief of police it wasn't a big ask and I just was like I called like hey this what's going on they knew I was wanted because they'd been involved in extraditions and I'm like they want to come visit we meet in your office And he's like, yeah, sure. And so I message that back to the U.S. embassy. I'm like, okay, we can meet, but it's going to have to be in the police headquarters, in the chief of police office, and the chief of police will be present and probably other police officers as well because of the history.
Starting point is 02:48:33 And he says, yeah, I've been advised that you're violent and I'm bringing a security team with me as well. And I'm like, we're done. We're done. And I told him, I said, okay, we're done. That's it. And so I think what's happening. I think they're planning on abducting me.
Starting point is 02:48:47 Right. I think they were going to get me in another point and they're going to abduct me. And they have done that to other people here. Two things I can also tell you is one, when we got the letter, when they wrote back to Congressman Mike Kelly in 2022, the letter from the FBI came back
Starting point is 02:49:01 from the FBI violent crime section. So they're telling everybody I'm violent, even though there's no history whatsoever. And they have abducted people off the island before here. What they do is, now they deny this, but you can find newspaper articles about people they've done this to. In fact, there's a New York Times article where the FBI went to the courts and the courts ruled that the FBI can abduct people on foreign soil, even if it's illegal inside that country to do it.
Starting point is 02:49:23 So they do it all the time. Well, I actually... What they did was there was a guy here, and this was early 2000s or late 90s, and they wanted him for something. And I forget what it was. It wasn't even the big deal. And so they knew which beach bar he hung out at. So they brought a power boat, like a party boat in with a couple agents on it. And they came ashore, legally, they checked in and everything.
Starting point is 02:49:46 They came ashore. And they started party with the guy and started buying him drinks. They're like, hey, man, you're pretty cool. And you know what? We got this boat here. You want to go out and party on our boat? And dude's like, yeah, I want to go party to the boat because he's all drunk now, right? They took him to Antigua, where U.S. Coast Guard boat was waiting, took him back to the U.S.
Starting point is 02:50:02 And because he went voluntarily, it was legal. Sometimes they even bring out women and we'll get them like, hey, you're hot. Let me buy a drink and they take him on a boat. They do it all the time. And not just here. This is not like a St. Kitts thing. No, I know a guy who actually owned a private security company, and they had a contract where, and there are contracts available where, let's say,
Starting point is 02:50:26 the DEA wants somebody, and they know they're another country that the DEA can't go into, or FBI can't go grab them, but they say, listen, if you call us and tell us, the guys here at this airport, we'll give you a check for like $250,000. thousand dollars and take him no questions asked so they watch the guy for a week make sure it's him throw a black bag over their head hit him with the taser throw them in it to a van drive him to the airport put them on a plane and fly them into the u.s and they call them just as they're landing at an airport and say hey come pick up i go this is who we've got come pick them up they show up they give them a check pick up the guy so the problem is what i tell these stories people like the u.s
Starting point is 02:51:06 government would never do that i watch law and order they're not allowed to do that the fbi never does anything like that. And even when I tell people, the FBI's are like, we don't do stuff. And I know this happens all the time. We've had people on the, we've had people follow us here.
Starting point is 02:51:19 We've had ours that have followed my kids. I've been younger kids. They've had people follow them. I've been in prison with guys that were kidnapped out of their own country. Out of their own country. They were come. They were taken.
Starting point is 02:51:32 I mean, matter of fact, there's a, in South Africa, there was a bank robber and his girlfriend, well, they were both bank robbers. And the FBI, the FBI literally there was no extradition from South Africa at that time. And the FBI called the local police department and said, we are going to be in this area. We have two of our citizens that are wanted. So there was a bank robber and a male bank robber and his accomplice, which was his girlfriend.
Starting point is 02:52:00 They were living in, they fled to South Africa. The FBI called up the local police, because there was no extradition for South Africa at the time. They called up the local police and said, listen, we have. two of our citizens in your jurisdiction we're coming to pick them up don't come in the area and the local police said no problem they drove there they followed them
Starting point is 02:52:21 they went to the house they arrested the they followed the girl in they arrest both of them put them in a van driving to the local airport throw them on a plane and fly them out like I know guys that were kidnapped in their own countries where it's like a guy in Brazil a guy in you know where they're like no you won't believe I was in my own country they're like I was in my own country
Starting point is 02:52:38 and they just fucking threw me in a van he said the whole time kicking and screaming you're kidnapping me got him on a plane got in front of the judge in the United States and said they kidnapped me and the judge would say well you're here now yep and I've been trying to tell reporters this and reporters like the FBI would never
Starting point is 02:52:55 do that that's illegal and if they did it'd be inadmissible in court I'm like you don't understand yeah that's it's stupid they're idiots they don't know they don't know they watch too much like you said just too much law and order your brain watch I tell people
Starting point is 02:53:10 people, law and orders about as realistic as a courtroom as, um, uh, the movie. Hold on. John, John McLean. Oh, oh, um, die hard. Die hard for where the kid pulls out a, you know, 1990 cell phone and hacks a satellite in 30 seconds. I'm like, that's about as realistic as law and orders with the courtroom. Yeah, yeah. And everybody's like, if you're innocent and you have all the evidence and I even believe you, just turn yourself in and go before a court of law and dismiss it. So why don't you do it you must be guilty if you want to turn yourself in like they'll never give me a trial they will never ever bring this to trial i guarantee you everything i have left this prosecutor will never allow this to come before a driver before it not just that they're holding you let me
Starting point is 02:53:56 tell you this is what's really upsetting i know guys they've just let die like i've said there was there have actually been guys that have showed up at coleman been transferred showed up went straight to the unit went to the went to the went straight to the to the to the officer and said, listen, I have asthma. I have a very extreme case of asthma. They didn't give me my inhaler. I have to get my inhaler. And the officers are like, well, you have to wait until after count.
Starting point is 02:54:20 Then they wait until after count. Now it's five o'clock. They go straight to medical. Medical's like, yeah, you'll have to wait until tomorrow morning, come to pill. Sick, you know, the, they call it pill line or sick call. And the guy's like, look, you don't understand. If I don't, I may die. They're like, well, you're going to either go to the shoe or you could, you know,
Starting point is 02:54:38 there's no medical here. go back to unit and the guy goes back to his unit boom next day wakes up dead he says jesse on tic-tok there's jesse crosson jd delay there's several prison former prison in tic-tok they talk about medical all the time jesse told a story about a guy that had cancer they gave him Tylenol told him to suck it up or a guy that had kidney issues died because they delayed his dialysis my condition is actually so bad that even in my medical report it says even though i need an air ambulance to travel even the air ambulance needs to be as short as possible I need to go to a nearby island, not be flying. Miami is 1,400 miles away.
Starting point is 02:55:10 And even an air ambulance in that distance puts me at risk. I need to fly somewhere close. And they won't allow me to travel anywhere close to get health care. I'm at this point, I'm begging you. Listen, I have a huge story. Someday we all know this is going to be a massive Netflix special and it's going to be one of the biggest stories out there. But until I get somebody who will not only not be afraid of the FBI,
Starting point is 02:55:33 but will run with this story. Somebody could make their career off of this. And I'm begging people, and I just can't because the FBI keeps scaring them. Listen, my heart goes out to. I know you're not feeling good. We've been on here. This is me on a good, no, this is me on a good day. A lot of days I can't even get up and walk around barely.
Starting point is 02:55:55 The fact that I got up and went to the dog for two minutes is a big deal for me. There's days I can't even shower. You see on TikTok, sometimes on TikTok you'll see I have a beard. That's because I can't even stand up to take a shower. So the more stubble I have, that's the worst off I am. My original TikToks, when I started TikTok last May, my first TikToks, I was holding up signs drawn in Tran by my daughter because I couldn't talk. I mean, I could, but it was just, I couldn't get sentences out.
Starting point is 02:56:24 For a long time, my wife had to call the lawyer. We have a lawyer who's a former federal prosecutor, and even he can't make any headway because they keep blocking our petitions. And he's a former federal prosecutor. and we gave the last bit of money. Our finances are running out. We have serious financial problems. We didn't have the money we gave that lawyer.
Starting point is 02:56:40 That was another $100,000. And we're out. We are millions of dollars into this thing. Not accounting my lost income. I mean, I am at some point, I don't know what's going to give out first. I'm in a race to a heart attack, kidney failure, stroke, financial failure. I don't know what. But I'm desperate and I don't know where to turn because the FBI keeps intimidating people.
Starting point is 02:57:00 how do I mean how I don't understand why I have the story I mean I see all these documentaries on Netflix that are just ridiculous and the FBI's normal excuse is he's a fugitive you can be in trouble for talking to a fugitive that's what they tell the reporters they tell them if you talk to a fugitive that could be considered aiding and abetting and that's a criminal charge and that's what they tell them yeah and then the reporter's like I know for that I had a CNN producer on my live for more than an hour and I interviewed with him, and he's ghosted me
Starting point is 02:57:31 since he talked to the FBI. Well, listen, I'm going to wrap it up. I appreciate you talking to me. We'll stay in contact. I will let you know when we're going to post this. By all means, post it,
Starting point is 02:57:48 you know, let's do something, you know, a connection where you can post something simultaneous on your TikTok, try and direct people to it. Yeah, of course. What kind of time frame me looking at what what are your plans i mean give me some kind of hope here because
Starting point is 02:58:02 a week i'm just desperate i'm begging for my life i don't know what to say i still two kids under 18 i'm begging for my life hey i appreciate you guys watching do me a favor look in the description box and click the link for uh for all of the does all the different uh for the ticot that we talked about for the his uh for his youtube channel for everything across the board um if anybody does know anybody that can help out by all means contact me um i i will put you in in contact with chad or you could go to his his tic talk or youtube channel um i can give you his email if you contact me i'll actually i'll put his email in the description box also and telegram is actually the best way telegram okay i'll put a link to telegram telegram's the best
Starting point is 02:58:47 way so uh to contact him i appreciate you guys watching if you like the video do me a favor subscribe hit the bell leave me a message thank you guys very much i appreciate it see you i don't know if you guys know this or not, but when I was locked up, I wrote a whole bunch of true crime books, and all of the books are on Amazon, Barnes & Nobles, Audible, their e-books. Check out the trailers. Using forgeries and bogus identities, Matthew B. Cox, one of the most ingenious con men in history, built America's biggest banks out of millions. Despite numerous encounters with bank security, state, and federal authorities. Cox narrowly, and quite luckily, avoided capture for years.
Starting point is 02:59:35 Eventually, he topped the U.S. Secret Service's Most Wanted Fest and led the U.S. Marshals, FBI, and Secret Service on a three-year chase, while jet-setting around the world with his attractive female accomplices. Cox has been declared one of the most prolific mortgage fraud con artists of all time, by CNBC's American Greed. Bloomberg Business Week called him the mortgage industry's worst nightmare, while Dateline NBC
Starting point is 03:00:05 described Cox as a gifted forger and silver-tonged liar. Playboy magazine proclaimed his scam was real estate fraud, and he was the best. Shark in the housing pool is Cox's exhilarating first-person account of his stranger-than-fiction story.
Starting point is 03:00:25 Available now, now on Amazon and Audible. Bent is the story of John J. Boziak's phenomenal life of crime. Inked from head to toe, with an addiction to strippers and fast Cadillacs, Boziac was not your typical computer geek. He was, however, one of the most cunning scammers, counterfeiters, identity thieves, and escape artists alive, and a major thorn in the side of the U.S. Secret Service as they fought a war on cybercrime. With a savant-like ability to circumvent banking security and stay one step ahead of law enforcement,
Starting point is 03:01:00 Boziak made millions of dollars in the international cyber underworld, with the help of the Chinese and the Russians. Then, leaving nothing but a John Doe warrant and a cleaned-out bank account in his wake, he vanished. Boziak's stranger-than-fiction tale of ingenious scams and impossible escapes, of brazen run-ins with the law and secret desires to straighten out and settle down, makes his story a true crime con game that will keep you guessing. Bent. How a Homeless Team became one of the cybercrime industry's most prolific counterfeiters. Available now on Amazon and Audible.
Starting point is 03:01:36 Buried by the U.S. government and ignored by the national media, this is the story they don't want you to know. When Frank Amadeo met with President George W. Bush at the White House to discuss NATO operations in Afghanistan, no one knew that he'd already embezzled. nearly $200 million from the federal government, money he intended to use to bankroll his plan to take over the world. From Amadeo's global headquarters in the shadow of Florida's Disney World, with a nearly inexhaustible supply of the Internal Revenue Services funds, Amadeo acquired multiple
Starting point is 03:02:11 businesses, amassing a mega conglomerate. Driven by his delusions of world conquest, he negotiated the purchase of a squadron of American fighter jets and the controlling interest in a former Soviet ICBM factory. He began working to build the largest private militia on the planet, over one million Africans strong. Simultaneously, Amadeo hired an international black ops force to orchestrate a coup in the Congo while plotting to take over several small eastern European countries. The most disturbing part of it all is, had the U.S. government not thwarted his plans, he might have just pulled it off. It's insanity. The bizarre, true story of a bipolar megalomaniac's insane plan for total world domination.
Starting point is 03:02:58 Available now on Amazon and Audubor. Pierre Rossini, in the 1990s, was a 20-something-year-old, Los Angeles-based drug trafficker of ecstasy and ice. He and his associates drove luxury European supercars, lived in Beverly Hills penthouses, and dated Playboy models while dodging federal indictments. Then, two FBI officers with the organized crime drug enforcement task force entered the picture. Dirty agents, willing to fix cases and identify informants.
Starting point is 03:03:33 Suddenly, two of Racini's associates, confidential informants working with federal law enforcement, were murdered. Everyone pointed to Racini. As his co-defendants prepared for trial, U.S. Attorney Robert Moore sat down to debrief Rassini at Leavenworth Penitentiary, and another story emerged. A tale of FBI corruption and complicity in murder. You see, Pierre Racini knew something that no one else knew. The truth. And Robert Miller and the federal government have been covering it up to this very day.
Starting point is 03:04:08 Devil Exposed. A twisted tale of drug trafficking, corruption, and murder in the city of angels. Available on Amazon and Audible. is a psychological true crime thriller that pits a narcissistic con man against an egotistical pathological liar. Marcus Shrinker, the money manager who attempted to fake his own death during the 2008 financial crisis, is about to be released from prison, and he's ready to talk. He's ready to tell you the story no one's heard.
Starting point is 03:04:41 Shrinker sits down with true crime writer, Matthew B. Cox, a fellow inmate serving time for bank fraud. Shrinker lays out the details. The disgruntled clients who persecuted him for unanticipated market losses, the affair that ruined his marriage, and the treachery of his scorned wife, the woman who framed him for securities fraud, leaving him no choice but to make a bogus distress call and plunge from his multi-million dollar private aircraft in the dead of night. The $11.1 million in life insurance. The missing $1.5 million in gold. The fact is, Shrinker wants you to to think he's innocent. The problem is, Cox knows Shrinker's a pathological liar and his stories of fabrication. As Cox subtly coaxes, cajoles, and yes, Khan's Shrinker into revealing
Starting point is 03:05:29 his deceptions, his stranger-than-fiction life of lies slowly unravels. This is the story Shrinker didn't want you to know. Bailout. The Life and Lies of Marcus Shrinker. Available now on Barnes & Noble, Etsy, and Audible. a conman, incarcerated in the Federal Bureau of Prisons for a variety of bank fraud-related scams. Despite not having a drug problem, Cox inexplicably ends up in the prison's residential drug abuse program, known as ARDAP. A drug program in name only. Ardap is an invasive behavior modification therapy, specifically designed to correct the cognitive thinking errors associated with criminal behavior. The program is an
Starting point is 03:06:17 non-fiction dark comedy which chronicles Cox's side-splitting journey. This first-person account is a fascinating glimpse at the survival-like atmosphere inside of the government-sponsored rehabilitation unit. While navigating the treachery of his backstabbing peers, Cox simultaneously manipulates prison policies and the bumbling staff every step of the way. The program. How a Conman survived the Federal Bureau of Prisons cult of our day. App. Available now on Amazon and Audible. If you saw anything you like, links to all the books are in the description box.

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